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Costume show in Kiev, or the non-statutory "Golden Eagle" ...

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Western and some Ukrainian media suffering from loyalty to radical extremists who are taking Ukraine into pieces have found a new informational “trick” —to demonstrate to the international community cadres of how law enforcement officers use firearms against “peaceful demonstrators” weapon. These cadres mentioned media are not only going to increase the degree of hatred from gangster groups to law enforcement, but also to show “the whole progressive world” how the “bloody regime of Yanukovych” deals with “freedom fighters”. And the “world community”, seeing such cadres, comes to the present “democratic” indignation: they say, what these fiends-berkutov do in Kiev, they say, urgently need to “democratically” help their own supply of weapons for the “fighters with the regime”. And the Russian impressionable hyperliberals due to well-known problems with the materiel and the breeding cockroaches in their heads fire the Ukrainian police, calling on the world community to “give a fist in the teeth” of the Ukrainian authorities in retaliation for the “lawlessness of the Golden Eagle”.


"Problems with materiel" - what is it about? Yes, that some interesting "Berkutovtsy" with small arms loom. A close look at the pictures in which the “democratic” media allegedly show the “Golden Eagle” with machine guns, several nuances are immediately apparent. That is - rushes!

Costume show in Kiev, or the non-statutory "Golden Eagle" ...


The first is that the officers of the special units of the Ukrainian militia are famously firing from the machine guns in the crowd, while holding the weapon not by the fore-end (as they are taught even when schoolchildren pass through elementary military (pre-draft) training), but for “shops” ... This seemingly insignificant nuance Immediately with giblets, he says that he shoots - not a law enforcement officer, but an amateur.

The second is, strictly speaking, the weapon itself, from which the allegedly Berkut is fired. Judging by the picture that foreign media so fond of exhibiting as “evidence of police guilt”, “militiamen” are armed with AKM assault rifles with a folding butt (AKMS-U). Do modern Ukrainian militia have such weapons? The answer is given by the list of small arms, which is at the disposal of the Berkut unit itself, and there are no such machines in this list ... But the information coming in from Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk looks extremely interesting in this regard. There, the radicals seized arsenals and took possession of the small arms that had been decommissioned and prepared for disposal. And after that, just such a weapon appears in the center of Kiev. Coincidence? Well, if this is a coincidence, then it is simply unique.

Here it is necessary to deviate a little from listing the oddities associated with the frames of the “Berkut” shooting at people. The fact is that a number of bloggers have already stated that, they say, everything converges, despite the oddities - this is, they say, no Berkut, but the staff of the SBU, who decided to intervene in the dispersal of Maidan. Employees of the SBU, then well, then more interesting. We proceed to further enumeration of inconsistencies, not forgetting the first two mentioned strange nuances.

So the third. You can clearly see one of the “SBU employees” hiding behind a metal shield, and his legs ... shoes. Apparently, he specially prepared for the “festive exit” to the Maidan and put on polished shoes to make an impression ... Well, well, that at least not sneakers or shale ...

Fourth. For what the “employees” of the SBU tied bright ribbons on their sleeves - symbols of the so-called “right sector”. Proponents of the version that these are special units, not extremist ryazhennye, immediately declare: but if they were representatives of the “right sector”, then why would they need to “drain” themselves using yellow bandages? No, well, how then will they show their own, being dressed in a "Berkut uniform", that they are theirs ... Well, they will not write on the helmet: "I am not Moskal" or "I am for the Maidan" - then you have to read it, and, with what kind of education are people in the crowd ... Perhaps, they don’t even own the school ...

And returning to the first point, somehow it does not fit in my head, so that the pro from the Security Service of Ukraine would not be able to correctly hold small arms in their hands ...

By the way, the gentlemen who were convicted decided that the information battle was not lost, and through social networks they produced fake photos with the way the “Golden Eagle” handles the weapon “wrong”. Here is one of these.



Like, look at everything - he also holds the machine for the "store" ... Well photographed, nothing can be said. But then it was necessary to go to the end - to be photographed with the same outdated models of automatic machines, which are on the top frame, and to “shoe” the “berkutovtsy” in sharp-nosed shoes ...

So, what we have on the frame: "security forces", wearing civilian shoes, tearing off insignia, took a weapon and, realizing that they had to shoot at the place where they had a hole, they set out to clean up ...

But if it is “mummers” under “Golden Eagle”, then where did they get the form of “Golden Eagle”? To answer this question, you can simply pick up and type in any search engine “Buy the form of Ukrainian Berkut” - and everything becomes clear ... Well, and you can not even buy - in the same Lviv you can take it for free ...

Phantasmagoric messages that the “Golden Eagle” and only he shoots “peaceful protesters” gather in one big misinformation field - a field that should convince even the most remote woman from politics that Ukraine definitely does not need a valid legitimate power, but who needs the other is the one who will naturally lead the country "to peace and prosperity." Isn't it already a well-known variant on Libya, Syria, Egypt and others like them ...

One of the messages about the "atrocities" of the "Golden Eagle" conveys http://www.ua-ru.info/. The resource “tells” about how near Brovary (not far from Kiev) a bus with “Berkutovtsy” at night tried to sweep past the “peace checkpoint” towards the Ukrainian capital. At the same time, according to the “data” of the same publication, the “berkutovtsy”, at full speed, the bus broke the windows and started shooting at unarmed people. Look, fiends ... And, this should happen - they injured a student of the 10 class in a local school ... Further more interesting - the people who stood at this “peace block post” tried to delay the “Berkut”, but those quotation: “fled”. Think it all? But no. Here is the following quote from the same resource:

[Silovik] was detained and transferred to the district police station.


So this is a fairy tale about a white bull ... Whoever composed it, at least compared the separate episodes written with each other? Apparently not. First, the author of the material, which (material) has already flown around all the “progressive” media and has caused “progressive” resentment among sympathizers of extremists, declares: “Golden eagle” opened fire from the bus at unarmed people. Then in the same material it is reported that the "Berkutovtsy" fled, and after that they were also detained, forwarded to the regional department ... In both! These are people who with small arms, fled from the "unarmed" something? And this "unarmed" detained armed? Awesome logical chain ... That's right, here only a “heroic” schoolboy who was injured, who blocked the way to the bus with “Berkut, was not enough ...

In general, in addition to bloody clashes between the parties, typical information battles take place - “democratic” “art preparation”, and the term “art” does not need to be associated with artillery here ... Costumed shows are common occurrences for the revolutionary efforts of all the latter ( and not only the last) years. The men dressed as police and government troops appeared on the streets of Cairo and Suez, in Tripoli and Sirte, Damascus and Homs. What for? Well, this is already a naive question: provocation is the “best friend” of a revolutionary, terrorist, extremist, militant. And they skillfully use these weapons, but all that is secret nowadays quickly becomes apparent.

Finally, a few photos from the "peaceful demonstrators." The faces of some, by the way, are clearly visible ...



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  1. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 24 February 2014 07: 39
    -4
    We won at the Olympics, but shamed Ukraine. A story similar to the 2008 year, everything is watered. events occur during significant events ...
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 24 February 2014 08: 04
      +62
      You are comparing the incomparable. What does the Olympics have to do with it? Do you think the biathletes should have been sent to the Maidan?
      And what do you mean "fucked up"? To enter troops in Kiev? So no one called us there (unlike Abkhazia and Ossetia), if anything.
      and "vseprosralipolymersputinkozel" - this song is already a bit old.
      1. Scandinavian
        Scandinavian 24 February 2014 08: 15
        +19
        You are comparing the incomparable. What does the Olympics have to do with it? Do you think the biathletes should have been sent to the Maidan?


        Dear,

        One gets the feeling that you see things only in one plane, so to speak, an analysis maneuver is not observed (with an allegorical perception of the problem). All attention was riveted, only to prevent explosions in Sochi and to hold the Olympics in the best class. As you know at all times, it was a dogma that during the Olympics, wars and other watered off. feuds. The West is simply wiped off by this dogma. So far, all attention is focused on TVs, Western analysts such as Brzezinski, etc. gave recommendations to their chefs to conduct an armed action in Ukraine in order to bring Bandera to power.

        Now I think it has become clearer to you ?!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 February 2014 08: 21
          +9
          Quote: Scandinavian
          . All attention was riveted, only to prevent explosions in Sochi and to hold the Olympics in the best class.

          Have you just returned from the Kremlin?
          1. Scandinavian
            Scandinavian 24 February 2014 08: 23
            +4
            Have you just returned from the Kremlin?

            Well done funny wassat record to you ...
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 24 February 2014 10: 03
              0
              Quote: Scandinavian
              Well done funny

              But who knows who you are wink
        2. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 24 February 2014 12: 25
          +5
          This is what Kazakhstanis think about Kiev and Ukraine, condemning Bandera and traitors. http://tengrinews.kz/world_news/zapad-opasaetsya-voennoy-interventsii-rossii-na-

          ukrainu-250919 /
        3. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ 24 February 2014 16: 07
          +3
          Quote: Scandinavian
          Dear,

          One gets the feeling that you see things only in one plane, so to speak, an analysis maneuver is not observed (with an allegorical perception of the problem). All attention was riveted, only to prevent explosions in Sochi and to hold the Olympics in the best class. As you know at all times, it was a dogma that during the Olympics, wars and other watered off. feuds. The West is simply wiped off by this dogma. So far, all attention is focused on TVs, Western analysts such as Brzezinski, etc. gave recommendations to their chefs to conduct an armed action in Ukraine in order to bring Bandera to power.

          Now I think it has become clearer to you ?!

          What nonsense are you writing? It’s not just me who is telling you that you are raving, though in soft words, but you are pushing your own ... your behavior smacks of wildlife from the bogey family ...

          Bandera have always been in power in Kiev and Ukraine. It's just that there are two types of Bandera, the first are just stupid russophobes, and the second are smart who want to feed from two boobs. What happened today? Those that are simpler, threw off those that are fatter ... ordinary residents and Russians of Ukraine saw this and something began to stir in their heads ... and in which century the ancestral postulate of the whole earth is "outskirts" - "my house on the edge I know nothing "began to falter and some part of the population had sprouts of self-awareness.

          Could Russian tanks have brought about such a change in the center of Kiev? Or the FSO units on Kreschitika? Has Russia lost something? Did you spend something? Or showed commitment to her words about "the right to sovereignty" and "people's choice"? And showed everyone what is the world center of historical traditions and a stronghold of morality? In addition, the Western gods themselves favored Russia with their patronage and our athletes became the best on the planet ... Who else should not ignore the force of "chance" either.

          Do not jump to conclusions and do not fall under the influence of propaganda, both ours and hostile. All this mass hysteria works only in the conditions of "transience of awareness" of what is happening, and therefore an information tsunami is specially created, which suppresses the psyche of an unprepared person and does not allow him to adequately assess what is happening.

          Let's wait at least a couple of weeks to see the "official" reaction of the Russian Federation. And another half a year or so to see the results of the undercover battle that is happening today.
          1. GDP
            GDP 27 February 2014 15: 30
            0
            Let's wait at least a couple of weeks to see the "official" reaction of the Russian Federation. And another half a year or so to see the results of the undercover battle that is happening today.

            Let's just wait another year ... And then again ... Everything will somehow resolve itself by itself ...
            If the West sees that Russia is not interfering anywhere and does not react to anything, then the West will immediately fall in love with us and never, NEVER will use our inaction!

            I immediately remembered Stalin’s decree on the eve of the war - Do not give in to provocation at any cost ...
            1. Val_y
              Val_y 28 February 2014 13: 30
              -1
              Well, how did this "not give in to provocations" ended with the fact that Stalin, for two weeks, hid from decisions, with the words "you started all this and you need to clean it up"? And the Fritzes did not cheerfully advance inland. NEVER Western civilization in relation to the Slavic civilization, has not honored treaties and the treaty has never been observed (for the last 1000 years at least), so passivity is the essence of defeat. Well, we all know about double or triple standards (in the western area and the center, the seizure of administrative buildings is a revolution, in Crimea it is extremism. By the way, I don’t know if this is a duck, but today some media reported that Catherine Ashton was captured on Khreshchatyk. This is how euroraevolution doesn’t devour only their children but also their parents laughing
            2. ramzes1776
              ramzes1776 2 March 2014 04: 38
              +1
              So this is the modern "Brandenburg 800" !!!!
          2. michelle
            michelle 3 March 2014 00: 50
            0
            Great answer!!! hi
      2. -Scythian-
        -Scythian- 24 February 2014 10: 08
        -3
        it’s not called, the Crimean residents turned to Pukin at conferences and got an answer - they don’t cut you yet !!!
      3. smersh70
        smersh70 24 February 2014 14: 15
        0
        Quote: Banshee
        So nobody called us there (unlike Abkhazia and Ossetia),

        If necessary, they will call bully Forgot how to do it winked recall a story dating back to 1920)))))
        By the way, shas is done differently))) they just issue passports of another state)))
      4. Vlaleks48
        Vlaleks48 24 February 2014 16: 39
        +12
        Quote: Banshee
        You are comparing the incomparable

        Why is it incomparable, very even comparable! The Russians are busy with the Olympics and they do not have the strength and time for any actions. Now it is possible to explain the presence of ships with marines in the Black Sea, very armed in an adult way. And loud, very loud Russophobic statements of the "Pan" Tyagnibok and others like him. Everything is thought out to the euro cent. 20 billion euros have already been found for the "progressive" government of revolutionaries.
        The fact that the people, instead of one thief, got a whole gang of armed gopniks, they will understand very soon. I myself come from Dnepropetrovsk, and, to put it mildly, I breathe unevenly towards Little Russia, for me the state education "Ukraine" is a farce of history! But if it exists, the people are one, and when a handful of Galicians do not remember kinship trying to inculcate hatred of Russian and not without success in Russians and we are silent - the result is obvious!
        The crowd was again deceived, thrown, in power are the same who ruled yesterday!
        And the fact that RUSSIA will react correctly, I have no doubt! Thank God there is already experience!
      5. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 2 March 2014 07: 39
        0
        they didn’t see anything even now there is a war of nerves with the west
    2. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 24 February 2014 08: 10
      +31
      Quote: Scandinavian
      pissed away Ukraine.

      no, it’s just beginning.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 24 February 2014 08: 36
        -10%
        http://www.unian.net/politics/888830-maydanovtsev-mogli-ubivat-professionalnyie-
        killeryi-naemniki-ekspert.html

        Take a look.
        1. Genry
          Genry 24 February 2014 18: 24
          +4
          Quote: Banshee
          http://www.unian.net/politics/888830-maydanovtsev-mogli-ubivat-professionalnyie-

          killeryi-naemniki-ekspert.html

          Take a look.


          And what is there to watch. Suggest another 5th channel.

          UNIAN, TSN is like CNN and the like.
          They shoot "reports" like in a feature film. Coming up with news from gossip (their ideas are not enough).

          It is especially interesting how they substantiated that in the territory controlled by Berkut there could not be Maidan snipers. This is the same as saying about the whole territory of Ukraine, except for the Maidan.
      2. cosmos111
        cosmos111 24 February 2014 10: 05
        +12
        Quote: Scandinavian
        but prosrali Ukraine

        Quote: lewerlin53rus
        this is just the beginning.

        begins: the massacre and mayhem of Bandera gangs !!!
        with total betrayal, officials and deputies from the party of "regions", there is a spontaneous, popular resistance (((

        Black begins, the times when Bandera and their satellites seized power ((((

        but, the people of Ukraine cannot be defeated, at 43-45, they smashed this Bandera unread and now they will smash !!!!
        1. Chaplain
          Chaplain 24 February 2014 15: 16
          +2
          I would say: devilishly harsh times are coming.
          And about asking for help, so (not even officially) always please, the memories of the "white wolves" are still fresh.
        2. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ 24 February 2014 16: 15
          +3
          Quote: cosmos111
          begins: the massacre and mayhem of Bandera gangs !!!
          with total betrayal, officials and deputies from the party of "regions", there is a spontaneous, popular resistance (((

          Black begins, the times when the power was seized by Bandera and their satellites ((((

          but, the people of Ukraine cannot be defeated, at 43-45, they smashed this Bandera unread and now they will smash !!!!

          Many rats in one jar, more grain in safety.
          Today, Bandera nibble Bandera and their sympathizers. They nibbled back in December, when the first killings appeared.
          The streets are full of "slag" who believes that now everything will become like in paradise ... they and the VIP exit from the airport for Tymoshenko are blocking. What will happen when all the aspirations of the "slag" disappear and a serious economic crisis begins?
          Bandera seized power where they had it. Power was surrendered by moderate Bandera, who fed for Russian money, those who were more hungry.
          The Russian regions are finally showing the beginnings of self-awareness and this could not be achieved by any Russian tanks in principle ...

          So the party is just beginning and so far is extremely successful for us. All the blood that spilled on the conscience of the European lobby and their curators. The fact that today is not a legitimate Parliament also accepts the Westerners. Pensions, too, let them pay. But let the South-East think only of itself.
      3. Papakiko
        Papakiko 24 February 2014 10: 09
        +4
        Quote: lewerlin53rus
        it's only the beginning

        True Comrade.
        Only this "begins" for 23 years.
        1. Prapor-527
          Prapor-527 24 February 2014 10: 47
          +3
          All repeats. In the forties, Bendera, dressing in the uniform of Soviet troops, terrorized and destroyed the civilian population of Ukraine. Who will put an end to this madhouse?
          1. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka 24 February 2014 13: 49
            -30%
            Quote: Prapor-527
            All repeats. In the forties, Bendera, dressing in the uniform of Soviet troops, terrorized and destroyed the civilian population of Ukraine. Who will put an end to this madhouse?

            Do not write nonsense.
            The photo shows the fighters of the anti-terrorist center of the internal troops of Ukraine. The courts will be fully open and the whole picture will be clearly visible.
            After that it will be possible to calmly discuss everything. Dot.
            1. Kite
              Kite 24 February 2014 18: 51
              +8
              Quote: Vovka Levka
              In the photo, the fighters of the anti-terrorist center of internal troops of Ukraine

              - Yes?? And the one that looks directly into the lens looks like a young, snotty office clerk, sometimes playing stretchball! These fighters of the "anti-terrorist center of the internal troops of Ukraine" - a team of stretchball players, have a funny look. Don't be fooled, the disappointment will be very bitter!
              1. Vovka levka
                Vovka levka 24 February 2014 19: 42
                -5
                Quote: Kite

                - Yes?? And the one that looks directly into the lens looks like a young, snotty office clerk, sometimes playing stretchball! These fighters of the "anti-terrorist center of the internal troops of Ukraine" - a team of stretchball players, have a funny look. Don't be fooled, the disappointment will be very bitter!

                I wrote poorly, I apologize. They are in the first photo in the article.
            2. Mike_v
              Mike_v 24 February 2014 22: 19
              +2
              Did he serve in the armed forces at one time?
              1. Vovka levka
                Vovka levka 24 February 2014 23: 38
                0
                Quote: Mike_V
                Did he serve in the armed forces at one time?

                And what do you think?
        2. Prapor-527
          Prapor-527 24 February 2014 10: 57
          +4
          Here, for example, is an eloquent testimony. Document if you want.
          1. Roman 1977
            Roman 1977 24 February 2014 15: 31
            +7
            Quote: Vovka Levka
            Do not write nonsense.

            Do not talk nonsense about not knowing.
            Here are photos of banderlogs in the form of Red Army soldiers; there are many of them preserved in operational and criminal cases:




            The supra-district provider of the OUN Bіbrechchini “Mikhailo” (Dmitro Tsura) will read the order


            "Call" - Kmit Dmitro and the "Bistra"

            And I can post many more such photos ...
            1. Vovka levka
              Vovka levka 24 February 2014 18: 44
              -10%
              [quote = Roman 1977]
              Do not talk nonsense about not knowing.
              Are you sure?
              1. Roman 1977
                Roman 1977 25 February 2014 11: 46
                +5
                Absolutely, as in my own hatred of banderlogs ...
                For your encore, all I have is 250 ftondery of banderlogs in Soviet military uniform:

                Legendary under the MGB battle of SB OUN "Dovbush"
                Zliva to the right: p. "Tiger", p. "Fox", swarm. "Dovbush", swarm. "Cunning", page "Vorobets", page "Schiglik". Sit: unavailable, p. "Biliy", unavailable. 13 lime 1947 p.
                http://io.ua/20952229p


                In the center Sov'yak Petro Mykolajovych ("Promin") - clerk of the SB


                Insurgents from the SB ("Levka") battle rozmovlyayut z fullnenim. 12 May 1949 RUR (the photo is most likely staged)



            2. internatio
              internatio 24 February 2014 23: 21
              +4
              What will be TOMORROW with this archive? And can young people see him in 10 years? Therefore, if not too late, archives must be saved, as well as people.
      4. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 24 February 2014 16: 07
        +4
        Quote: lewerlin53rus
        no, it’s just beginning.

        Simple and far-sighted ...
    3. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 24 February 2014 15: 54
      +8
      Quote: Scandinavian
      We won at the Olympics, but shamed Ukraine. A story similar to the 2008 year, everything is watered. events occur during significant events ...

      Well, this is how to look. Ukraine prosrali 25 years ago, and the Crimea in 54th.

      Well, if you really look at what is happening today in Ukraine, then this is a serious victory for Russia, though if everything is brought to a logical end. The most important thing that they forget to say in all the latest news from Ukraine is what Ukraine itself was for us half a year ago, 5 years ago, 10 years ago and 25 years ago.

      Everyone has already forgotten that 6 years ago, Ukrainians shot at our pilot and delivered weapons to Georgian mercenaries? Have you forgotten how gas was pumped out or hysteria rose about our fleet? And there is no difference who was in power, there NEVER was a pro-Russian force, even with a remote reserve.

      What happened today? I will say one thing - the masks were removed. What is happening "now" - perhaps a pro-Russian or I would even say Russian power is being born. Do I need to support her? A moot point, letting go first will show itself in deeds and not in words.

      Has Russia's position on the "Ukrainian theme" improved over the past six months? In my opinion it has definitely improved. We all and even thinking foreigners see everything with our own eyes, and those who are not able to understand who is bad and who is good in this situation are already unable to understand anything.

      What is the outcome of the RF to work? To dismantle the initially hostile state of Ukraine, with the return of the Russian lands of the WHOLE Southeast as a "Western Russian region", while preserving the rest of Ukraine as an integral state. With the subsequent radicalization of sentiments in this "new Ukraine".
      With competent work in the Customs Union, it will be possible to accept what remains of the "new Ukraine", but with the order of the orderly ranks of the Banderaites.
    4. Realist58
      Realist58 27 February 2014 19: 40
      0
      Actually here is a more complete video;

      Maidan, which will not be shown in the news.

      It clearly shows what and how it was.

      And as eyewitnesses wrote that day on tweets, they did NOT shoot at unarmed people.
    5. sssss018
      sssss018 28 February 2014 14: 33
      0
      Yes, it’s quiet and our (friends) do not have any morality!
    6. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 2 March 2014 07: 34
      0
      Ukraine did not lose sooner when it was not so close to victory
  2. Sirocco
    Sirocco 24 February 2014 07: 46
    +16
    In a word, there is an information war. And how much these Maydaunas get, let them publish the prices. This is how one should not love one’s Motherland and one’s own people, so that they would sell for 30 pieces of silver Yeah.
    1. major071
      major071 24 February 2014 07: 56
      +10
      In this information war "Berkut" is still losing, no matter how much we want the opposite. The Blindfolded West likes to watch such videos where "peaceful" demonstrators are allegedly killed by police. Moreover, if everything is illuminated from only one side. Yes, and we have enough de.bilov.
      1. Beethoven
        Beethoven 24 February 2014 08: 21
        -11%
        Watch these videos:

        http://youtu.be/TI99RX3P8z0
        1. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 24 February 2014 08: 57
          +10
          What are you poking around here, maidown?
          Where is at least one shot in 13 minutes of shooting?
          Who did the death squads kill in this video?
          Go to Khreshchatyk ...
        2. Master_Lviv
          Master_Lviv 24 February 2014 10: 00
          +6
          And you watch this video here:

    2. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 24 February 2014 08: 02
      +12
      And just there everyone has their own homeland. Someone has a Bandera West, someone has an East. In my opinion, the main problem is that evil in life was better mobilized than good. Although applicable to Ukraine, everyone has their own concept of good and evil. Someone just wants to work, someone give Europeans.
    3. revnagan
      revnagan 24 February 2014 13: 09
      +3
      Quote: Sirocco
      And how much these Maydaunas get, let them publish the prices.

      In two days, 700 hryvnias. This is at the rate of 8 hryvnias per dollar. Moreover, the employed are given dollars-100 dollars with a brand new denomination. The person goes to the exchange office, there he receives 800 hryvnias in his hands, and 100 of them returns to the "employer". salary (real, not average!) in Ukraine is 1800-2000 hryvnia per MONTH.
      1. viktorR
        viktorR 24 February 2014 16: 27
        +5
        Familiar selling skin (which I really saw twice in my life, we have mutual acquaintances, they actually told everything about it). For two months I got 2000 bucks. But this is not interesting, but the fact that she was ill, upon arrival, and went to the hospital, and there she was immediately assigned to a drug dispensary and supposedly you had a breakdown. She swears swears that she did not use ...
    4. infinite silence ...
      infinite silence ... 24 February 2014 14: 27
      +2
      Parliament canceled the language law of Kolesnichenko-Kivalov ... that in this way, Article 10 of the Constitution is resumed in Ukraine regarding a single state language.
      In turn, MP from the Party of Regions Ivan Popescu noted that it is worth taking measures to expand the language rights of national minorities ...
      Is it about Eastern Ukraine? ... Regional ...
  3. Asgard
    Asgard 24 February 2014 07: 58
    +41
    Just returned. The situation is pre-storm. To say that people are completely confused, I won’t tell you. But everyone hopes for Russia and is afraid that Russia (as a state) will not support them .... (there is every reason))
    But there is a desire to fight. I took out the families of my friends, and the guys stayed THERE (with the "equipment"))), given the special training, they will cause problems to the Bandera people ...
    Cells are being created in Mukachevo, Berdichev, Vinnitsa ... Although the main population is scared, Yanuca signed a "betrayal" ...
    Tymoshenko howled, the police have an order not to leave the unit, Russia "hums" and no "signals" to the Russian people living there.
    CARRY will begin (100%)) then the war of the Slavs with the ideology of zapadentsev, in the western regions they will definitely deal with the Russians .....

    We must go again .....
    1. chisya
      chisya 24 February 2014 08: 23
      +5
      Quote: Asgard
      CARBON BEGINS (100%)


      Yes, what is the massacre, judging by recent actions, the west gave the command not to provoke a conflict and not to seize buildings. Now is another time, the capital has fallen, and the elites and managers have always been sold for money. Will be sold now.

      The biggest damage was from the West because of our corrupt elites. And they know how to arrange everything correctly and defeat us by non-military means. Common people do not need war, and even if something happens, they will quickly localize it. The number of people ready to take up arms is small. Especially if you remove the object of aggression. Will the "peaceful" protesters be recalled and against whom to fight? What will remain is not subordination to Kiev, but who is ready for this? Now, at the very least, but salaries and pensions are still being paid, and what will happen with a complete nix?

      War? No. IMHO people will not subscribe to this if it is not very provoked.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 24 February 2014 08: 47
        +10
        Quote: Asgard
        Just returned.


        Similarly visited for the same purpose. I was struck by some, not that disorganization, I don’t even know how to say it. They look too east, in our direction. Too much too. It seems to be like Putin must give an order, and tanks with infantry will go across the border, trampling banderlogs into the asphalt. I felt very strange, to be honest.
        The most common question is: "Where is Russia looking?" and "When to expect help from Russia?"
        On the border in general, tin, I could just as well have smuggled a warhead into Ukraine. But ours "pleased", one and a half hours took out the brain.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 February 2014 08: 54
          +1
          Quote: Banshee

          Similarly visited for the same purpose

          Roma, catch the PM laughing
        2. inkass_98
          inkass_98 24 February 2014 11: 08
          +6
          Yesterday I drove into the city (Krasnodar), saw at the revived traffic police post gaers who stopped a car with Ukrainian numbers. It was immediately evident that they had stopped just to chat with a "live" person from there. There are a lot of people here, who have relatives there, worry about their relatives and friends.
      2. Beethoven
        Beethoven 24 February 2014 09: 07
        -10%
        Yes, a massacre can only scare Kiselev grandmothers. There will be no massacre. On the Maidan, even anti-Russian rhetoric as such is not.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 February 2014 09: 09
          +9
          Quote: Beethoven
          On the Maidan, even anti-Russian rhetoric as such is not.

          Did he really go to Maidan with cotton wool in his ears?
          1. Beethoven
            Beethoven 24 February 2014 09: 40
            -2
            The Maidan scored on Russia, while at least the people were tired of the gang just
            1. kotvov
              kotvov 24 February 2014 10: 47
              +2
              so, Russia chose this gang for you? here they’ve got settled, how the hell .. so Russia is to blame. well, the EU will blossom.
          2. Michael_59
            Michael_59 24 February 2014 09: 56
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            went to maidan with cotton in your ears?


            Maidown with cotton wool in the "bowler hat" went, instead of brains.
          3. comrade Bitch
            comrade Bitch 25 February 2014 23: 36
            0
            I suggest that you personally come and see, and only after that do you affirm anything.
            and now in essence: now in Kiev they are trying to figure out who was the performer .. a commission has been created from the security forces themselves .. some facts are flowing to the press http://timer.od.ua/news/ks_telohranitel_gurvitsa_rasstrelival_protestuyuschih_iz
            _avtomata_502.html

            read see
      3. Flooding
        Flooding 24 February 2014 10: 13
        +10
        Quote: chisya
        Yes, what is the massacre, judging by recent actions, the west gave the command not to provoke a conflict and not to seize buildings. Now is another time, the capital has fallen, and the elites and managers have always been sold for money.

        Do not look into the mouth of the West. Listen, but keep in mind.
        When the golden eagles were bombarded with fire, the West spoke of peaceful demonstrators.
        When bandits started shooting at the defenders of Ukraine, the West spoke of the shooting of demonstrators.
        What will the West say when they beat the Russians? I suppose about the next provocation of Moscow.
        1. internatio
          internatio 25 February 2014 00: 27
          +2
          Totally agree with you. The information war is not won yet by us, but by VONY. The most tragic thing is that young people do not even understand who is who. And almost everyone scolds "Berkut". Only from 30 and older - they try to figure it out, but more often they also have porridge in their heads, not brains.
          The strongest stratification of the society of Crimea is now observed. And, yesterday’s friend or girlfriend is an almost-formed enemy. In my environment, up to 40% of EurointegratorV, it is good that there are the remaining 60% of normal. I remember a poster: a woman in a red scarf with the signature: DON'T BLAB!
      4. kotvov
        kotvov 24 February 2014 10: 43
        +4
        and do you think the Bandera will listen to them? in the center it may calm down, but I think it will be very bad around. Probably Russia will pull up the troops in Sevastopol, and then misunderstandings.
      5. Yegorchik
        Yegorchik 24 February 2014 11: 42
        +4
        Quote: chisya


        War? No. IMHO people will not subscribe to this if it is not very provoked.

        That's exactly what your IMHO, yesterday in Simferopol a gathering of Crimean Tatars gathered about 30 thousand put an ultimatum to demolish a monument to Lenin, do you think the monument prevents them, but not a gram needs to raise a bucha, start a confrontation with local Russians, the Crimean Tatars have an ideology and a desire to start a fight, and if they are looking for an excuse, they will find it, so your IMHO is not worth the damn thing.
        1. chisya
          chisya 24 February 2014 11: 51
          -1
          Wow, look how impudent.
          Everything is clear with the Tatars. I do not attribute them to radicals controlled by the West. It seems to me, having felt a certain moment of freedom, they want to bite off a bigger piece of themselves. I will not argue, but according to rumors already past authorities have done a lot of things in the Crimea and now there will be another redistribution. It is in this redistribution that the Tatars want a bigger piece. And all that. As for me, Crimea is the hottest spot now. In the east, everything is much calmer than in the Crimea.
        2. aleks 62
          aleks 62 24 February 2014 15: 40
          +1
          A little correction ... Officially about 10 thousand, and in fact about 5-6 thousand .... The area does not fit more than 10, but there was a lot of free space ... Please be careful with the numbers. On the Maidan in Kiev, too, they considered 1,5 lemons, and in fact, ten times less ...
        3. internatio
          internatio 25 February 2014 00: 36
          +1
          Egorchik, you are wrong and prone to exaggeration. I was there. Saw. Yes, a lot, especially for Simferopol, but not more than 3-4 thousand. By the way, there are probably photos from above, there are amusement parachuting. And the ultimatum of Umerov - not all Tatars approve.
          And, people, do not raise the temperature yourself in the comments. We are calm today to surprise. And we understand how long ...
        4. Flip
          Flip April 3 2014 19: 42
          0
          the question was posed correctly, to demolish the monument to Lenin .. it’s high time .. and not only in the Crimea, but everywhere in Russia ..
      6. rolik
        rolik 24 February 2014 12: 13
        +3
        Quote: chisya
        Ordinary people do not need war

        After five years of stay in the European Union there will be a new Maidan.
        1. AVV
          AVV 24 February 2014 14: 16
          +5
          Quote: rolik
          After five years of stay in the European Union there will be a new Maidan.

          Crimean Tatars will have to be deported and the European Union, so that life would not seem like oil !!! It’s good for the Tatars, but how is the European Union?
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 24 February 2014 14: 38
            -8
            Quote: AVV
            Crimean Tatars will have to be deported and the European Union

            You yourself have decided so and will participate, al how wink
      7. Basil123
        Basil123 24 February 2014 19: 33
        0
        And you see the video above, what do you think these ........ (I don’t know how to censor them) IT will stop?
    2. kare
      kare 24 February 2014 09: 37
      +5
      And tell me at least where to go? Where is the center of confrontation? In my opinion, today, there is no more sacred task for the Russians, like the task of destroying Pi-ndos.
      Decide where, where to come?
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 24 February 2014 10: 40
        +12
        Questions Roman "fire"))))
        Come to my page, somewhere I wrote about Friends of the faithful ....
        And the center of confrontation should be every Russian. Like is attracted to like.
        I have it like that. I have few friends (but They are real))) And no matter what distances and life circumstances separate us - on the first call, we are in a hurry to help .. no, rather, UNITED !!!
        And then ALL THE WORLD passes against us))))
        about friends
      2. internatio
        internatio 25 February 2014 00: 43
        0
        If you want to Crimea, then to the collector city of Simferopol. Here it is calm, warm and welcoming. Especially if there is money. But, if there is a Moscow accent, it is better to Sevastopol.
    3. rolik
      rolik 24 February 2014 12: 12
      +4
      Quote: Asgard
      Yanuca signed a "betrayal" ...

      And where is this fly agaric now ????? He did not seem to have been released from Ukraine. Where is this hiding ??? And in no case should he be allowed into Russia. Let it be in the Ukraine until the end (until he is put to a stake), he himself is in an interview with the tale.
  4. Mazadrive
    Mazadrive 24 February 2014 08: 01
    +5
    They show the people that they’re hitting .... Therefore, many people stopped watching TV ..
    1. GastaClaus69
      GastaClaus69 24 February 2014 13: 48
      +1
      That's it, and this article is an excellent confirmation of this!
      The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine officially confirmed that these people of theirs "covered the retreat of policemen who did not have firearms," ​​and they said this on the evening of the 20th.
      But the pictorial photo as AKMS is not in service with the Berkut special forces.
      1. screw cutter
        screw cutter 24 February 2014 19: 10
        +4
        Is it he "Berkutovets, professional" who wants to unfasten the store? Or does he have such a grip? And the uniform is like from a store? It's a pity you can't see the shoes, probably in Nike.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 25 February 2014 01: 25
          +2
          Quote: screw cutter
          Sorry for the shoes are not visible, probably in Nike.
      2. Basil123
        Basil123 24 February 2014 19: 42
        +1
        Against the background of a walking cafe, they shot peaceful demonstrators ..........
      3. zulu_1
        zulu_1 24 February 2014 22: 26
        -1
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4OgynH-7Is
      4. mihasik
        mihasik 24 February 2014 22: 59
        +1
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YfJHAz3Lcyw Так что!? Безоружных мирных граждан косили!?
  5. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 24 February 2014 08: 01
    +5
    They won in sport, but in the information war, they lost the battle (but I hope not a battle yet) ...
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 24 February 2014 08: 13
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      in the information war, they lost the battle (but I hope not yet the battle) ...

      And remember, 08.08.08. What happened in the Western media in the early days. But now is not the time to deceive people for a long time
  6. Beethoven
    Beethoven 24 February 2014 08: 21
    -21%
    Author, are you sick? Look at this mask show and erase your article

    http://youtu.be/TI99RX3P8z0
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 24 February 2014 08: 52
      +11
      Erase yourself. If you are not able to distinguish AKS-74 from AKMS-U, then go and smoke the sources, ignoramus.
      Specialists climbed ...
      1. Beethoven
        Beethoven 24 February 2014 09: 42
        -2
        I did not understand the thought, sorry. What are the differences?
    2. Beethoven
      Beethoven 24 February 2014 09: 04
      -6
      And yet, a connoisseur of dashing shooting, when shooting fast single (and not as conscripts - bursts), it is much more convenient to hold just the store :)
      1. kare
        kare 24 February 2014 09: 44
        +1
        Can you go make music? And then the grandmother will leave without sweets
  7. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 24 February 2014 08: 25
    +5
    For sheep any canoe will pass, they still have no brains
  8. CIANIT
    CIANIT 24 February 2014 08: 31
    +4
    It seems that everything did not go exactly as the west planned.
    1. askort154
      askort154 24 February 2014 09: 05
      +5
      CIANIT .... It seems that everything did not go exactly as the west planned.


      Yes, thirsty for power, stupid opposition showed its impatience and violated the agreement signed by them (scored an own goal) by which they set the West up. Now the West is forced to either continue to communicate with the legally elected president, or to recognize the coup and communicate with the illegal government. But this is contrary to international democratic norms. We will watch how they get out, and Russia has a good chance to "poke their nose".
    2. Beethoven
      Beethoven 24 February 2014 09: 08
      -1
      And how did you plan the west?
  9. Hleb
    Hleb 24 February 2014 08: 34
    +1
    about AKMS, I do not think that they are not in the units
    1. Letun
      Letun 24 February 2014 08: 51
      0
      And by the way, in the top photo this is not AKMS-U at all, here in the second - yes.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 24 February 2014 09: 02
        +4
        guys with yellow blindfolds 1:02
        1. 2sila
          2sila 24 February 2014 11: 45
          +2
          Well, they knew they had to fake it.
          Take a look at the weapons and equipment in this video, it is civilian, modern.
          The short one that seemed to me at all Galil, I can be mistaken, but with an increase it is still doubtful. The helmets are the same, regular, unlike the "snowboarders" in the boots from the top pictures. One has a modern concealed holster under the jacket.
          There is one big difference between the two. These are completely two different "offices".
          1. Asgard
            Asgard 24 February 2014 12: 15
            +7
            Equipment and uniform, special holster is not a problem.
            Here's what struck me, In Zhitomir, I was standing near a cafe, two Mercykas (passengers), equipped with satellite terminals, drove up. Radios "mlek" saw them in Yugoslavia encryption there hurt. A laser range meter was attached to the door steps. The binoculars lay on a torpedo with a digital video camera. According to estimates, equipping thousand for $ 20 ... excluding new ones Mercedes Viano...
            So you can falsify what you want, the name of such resources .... These are caught precisely on the methods of shooting, nuances of clothing or incorrect actions (specialists always have an algorithm)))

            I also use a satellite terminal, both telephone and data transmission work through it, and wherever I am, The IP address is always the same ...
            True, if the one who is tracking doesn’t * beat finished)), then by the nuances it is clear that third-party equipment is used, via satellite, but it is impossible to track (in any way))
            But it costs a LOT of money and the equipment itself and the operation ....

            What am I doing the force is attracted by a serious and equipped ...
            Pros work in small groups, and they just won't let the People win, the leadership is ALL TRAITORS, finances are invested, plans are developed. In Chernigov, I saw lists (probably prepared in advance) in the hands of "Bandera"
            This says a lot)))

            This is what the terminal itself looks like ...

            Antenna
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        3. 2sila
          2sila 24 February 2014 11: 51
          +1
          And in this video Alpha SBU.A type "Berkut" is a special unit of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        4. 2sila
          2sila 24 February 2014 11: 51
          0
          And in this video Alpha SBU.A type "Berkut" is a special unit of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      2. Ximik-degozator
        Ximik-degozator 24 February 2014 11: 17
        0
        On the top, most likely, AKMS
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 24 February 2014 12: 03
          0
          not sooner, but AKMSs are
          1. 2sila
            2sila 24 February 2014 12: 41
            +3
            I can’t say for sure, the cut is not visible.
            And therefore I can assume that this is even ......... pneumatics. It goes without saying just as an example.
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  10. paul72
    paul72 24 February 2014 08: 39
    -26%
    Lukashenko constantly threatens Russia that if you do not give me money (preferences, cookies, etc.), I’ll go integrate with the West.
    It’s interesting, after the story with Yanukovych, what songs from Luke we’ll still hear
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 24 February 2014 08: 45
      +9
      Pour over whoever believes that chicken without brains. and you are a provocateur, write to the West there they will believe you and even give a cookie.
      1. paul72
        paul72 24 February 2014 08: 57
        -5
        you. Kume, do not behave like an exalted young lady.
        You rushed here labels right and left to hang? or are you looking for a guru here who can and should be trusted?
        1. vladsolo56
          vladsolo56 24 February 2014 10: 23
          0
          You may not believe, I don’t call you to believe me, I just communicate with those who know how to think, and who have strained what they share with their brains
          1. paul72
            paul72 24 February 2014 10: 45
            -1
            Quote: vladsolo56
            and someone with brains strained what to share with him


            here, kume, you are right
            to be rude - no brains needed
            1. vladsolo56
              vladsolo56 24 February 2014 11: 36
              -1
              Quote: paul72
              Quote: vladsolo56
              and someone with brains strained what to share with him

              here, kume, you are right
              to be rude - no brains needed

              Did I write that you have no brains? you yourself decided so
              1. paul72
                paul72 24 February 2014 14: 13
                0
                Hamlo, Kume, Wono and Africa - Hamlo
  11. Hleb
    Hleb 24 February 2014 08: 41
    +5
    and these pictures were taken earlier

    1. 2sila
      2sila 24 February 2014 11: 59
      +9
      These pictures are the same fake.
      Please note that there is always a close-up so that it is impossible to identify the time and place. If you are able to determine this, then tell us.
      Again .......
      Alpha is a special unit of the SBU.
      Golden eagle - the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      Do they have a joint disco and party in this photo ?!
      Does the golden eagle have no money for two identical helmets?
      I am silent about the machines, they have already said.
      These are Bandera "snowboarders"!
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 24 February 2014 12: 25
        +2
        time and place of the second photo: "Arms and Security" 2007.
        It is held every year. And the photo is here to show that AKMS is used, they are holding the store.
        all the rest of your scribble about standard helmets is nonsense of a person who knows about power structures from what he read on the internet.
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        2. 2sila
          2sila 24 February 2014 12: 58
          +1
          Of course on an Internet!
          My VUS 01001
          I started my "military education" at School No. 320 for junior engineers in Glau.
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 24 February 2014 13: 27
        -2
        Well, the report from Kirovograd from 2012 and the Berkut propaganda video are also fakes?

        Or a photo from the official website of the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs?

        http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/uk/publish/article/845820;jsessionid=075CEC53

        6F58AFE7A22027544B0DD2AC

        It’s stupid to do self-deception.

        The golden eagle is armed with AKMS - among other things, and judging by the amount of data - he shot. The legitimacy of shooting is another matter.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 24 February 2014 13: 54
          +2
          yes to whom to explain? the man on the armor. he will completely deny it, only because his opinion and it is difficult to change him. I did not even discard the link, it is useless
          1. Tušila
            Tušila 24 February 2014 15: 15
            -1
            Dear, stop whining and complaining, I expected facts from you, and not tantrums and whining.
            1. Hleb
              Hleb 24 February 2014 15: 18
              +2
              You clearly said that this is crap, and now admit the opposite expert
              1. Tušila
                Tušila 24 February 2014 16: 21
                0
                And I would immediately admit if there were justifications for the lower ph, for example. like a pimple.
        2. Tušila
          Tušila 24 February 2014 15: 13
          0
          Listen, I only demanded this!
          Do not fall for hysterical and personal assessments, but give at least some kind of info.
          I have NEVER stated that the golden eagle is not armed with AKM-S, but only expressed doubts and pointed out that Alpha is not armed with AKM-S.
          About the photo that my opponent put on the forum, I had every reason to doubt and I listed them.
          But I didn’t hear answers from HIM, and even got under the BAN.
          No one is engaged in self-deception, but simply expects a healthy discussion.
          THX.
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    4. 2sila
      2sila 24 February 2014 12: 04
      +4
      The top paratrooper, and AKM-S remained in service with the Ukrainian Airborne Forces for quite a long time, maybe they are now, I won't lie, I don't know, but again pay attention to the grip and the "modern" black shop. This is a real Ukrainian paratrooper! The snowboarders in the bottom photo have only gags instead!
      This is a bald crap.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 24 February 2014 12: 27
        0
        the top one is the delivery to the maroon beret of the Berkut subdivisions 2010. The Bratishka magazine is not a yellow rag.
        you crap
        http://bratishka.ru/gallery/berkut052010/
        1. 2sila
          2sila 24 February 2014 12: 34
          +1
          It’s clear that I’m not ready for a healthy discussion, since you merge so fluidly on individuals.
          Why put their problems with low self-esteem on display?
          But I still find and read this number Brothers will definitely tell you about their findings.
          About the bottom photo, as I understand it, you agree.
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 24 February 2014 13: 59
            +2
            how can you communicate with a person and not go over to a person? you accused me of misinforming, as I put it, I mean I’m a liar and mislead people. and how to relate to you in that case? and the bottom photo I didn’t change my mind. you pimply gave a link, but you won’t believe it. because
            I give you a link to the material in Bratishka, and you say I’ll go look for it ... but can I copy it to the buffer in any way? And you can’t express your opinion either. You’ll call the journalists who prepare the photo material liars and the articles are crap.
            Once every six months you go to the site and decided to surprise everyone? It's not classmates warrior engineer
            1. Tušila
              Tušila 24 February 2014 15: 25
              -2
              Are you unable to speak for yourself?
              Your kitchen syndrome is already mixed, well, don’t humiliate yourself.
              What difference does it make who I am and what I do, can you talk on the topic of discussion?
              I expressed doubts about the photograph you submitted, what have YOU to do with it ?!
              Are you the author of this photo?
              Everything else is just your unbalanced ego, but I have nothing to do with it.
              Instead of justification and facts, you constantly fall into teenage insults.
              The first koment was without reference, and therefore said that I would look.
              It was fun to find out about your interpolated hobbies by classmates, but it's not mine.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 24 February 2014 15: 25
                0
                Quote: Tusila
                I expressed doubts about the photograph you submitted, what have YOU to do with it ?!
                Are you the author of this photo?

                Dear, they express doubt in a slightly different form
                1. Tušila
                  Tušila 24 February 2014 16: 26
                  -2
                  Hypothetically?
                  In my opinion this is pure subjectivity, but what the photo called crap was definitely wrong.
                  None of this would be, with the normal justification of this photo when posting
                  on the forum, well, or with further discussion.
                  In any case, this photo is not crap, it was wrong.
              2. Hleb
                Hleb 24 February 2014 15: 38
                +2
                if you call things crap, then refute with arguments (and I will give you a full deal in the future so that I don’t have time to call it. specially). but it turns out I get on. I have a fact-Berkut uses AKMS, the photo does not have a paratrooper the more they use it). recognize? on fluoride photo who? recognize? constantly dumping? and we talked earlier?
                everyone can make mistakes and get excited, but you need to somehow reasonably, and not just "the photo is not voluminous, you can not see where and when" and therefore crap.
                come on don't hurt
                1. Tušila
                  Tušila 24 February 2014 19: 33
                  -2
                  I will answer again.
                  He didn’t just name the crap, but he listed what confuses me in this photo, here is a quote:

                  Alpha is a special unit of the SBU.
                  Golden eagle - the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
                  Do they have a joint disco and party in this photo ?!
                  Does the golden eagle have no money for two identical helmets?
                  I am silent about the machines, they have already said.

                  Now I’ll add that I had every reason to doubt the authenticity of the photo, and to all of the above I will add the color of the field form of the EASTER PLAT of Berkut.

                  It began with the fact that you posted a video with Alpha SBU, and in the article there is a conversation for Golden Eagle, because I posted photos with Alpha for identification.
                  I have NEVER said that the Golden Eagle does not use AKM-S.
                  Not a paratrooper, of course I admit, but once again I say that his first post was without reference.
                  In at least three posts, you went personal.
                  And close-ups are used for photomontage and fraud, so that there is nothing in the background and no detail.
                  Everyone can make mistakes and get excited, but just do not offend the opponent.
                  I have never offended you.
                  Hop, that is - okay, I try not to get sick.
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        3. Tušila
          Tušila 24 February 2014 15: 53
          -1
          Yes, you are right, on the caption to the photo album it is written "Delivery to the maroon beret PMON" Berkut "Simferopol. May 2010 V. Krashevsky, M. Tolstikhin, I. Amirov"
          And on the flag that it is "150 pages of the Order of Kutuzov 11th century Idritskaya div."
          Need to explain what a joke?
          Once again, I want to note that I have never indicated that the Golden Eagle is NOT ARMED with AKM-S.
          And in your lower photo, the lower assault platoon of the special forces regiment Berkut
          and I called this photo crap was wrong, but insults anyway was not worthy.
      2. Hleb
        Hleb 24 February 2014 12: 34
        +2
        also accidentally AKMS jumbled
        1. 2sila
          2sila 24 February 2014 12: 42
          -1
          I saw these pictures, but again it is impossible to identify not time or place, again a close-up.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 24 February 2014 13: 40
            +3
            Quote: 2sila
            I saw these pictures, but again it is impossible to identify not time or place, again a close-up.

            Have you been banned by Google? What does it mean impossible? Article of 15.05.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX, posted on the official website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine

            The head of the Department of Public Security of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Oleksiy Krikun, adviser to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Vasyl Durdinets, members of the Public Council under the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine headed by Chairman Anatoly Kovalenko and media representatives visited the Berkut special police regiment of the Central Internal Affairs Directorate of Ukraine in Kiev. Special forces soldiers presented samples of equipment, special equipment, weapons and equipment used by the regiment during the execution of assigned tasks; Demonstrated performances to inform those present about the features of their difficult profession.

            http://www.mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/mai0n/ru/publish/article/845851;jsessionid=261
            C51133FB673796ABC28D9A72A8DCC
            1. Tušila
              Tušila 24 February 2014 15: 32
              0
              Yes you are right.
              This is an assault platoon while the Berkut special police.
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        3. 2sila
          2sila 24 February 2014 12: 49
          0
          Why Berkut helmets for counter-terrorism activities, this is not part of their goals and objectives, but they can be involved. but for secondary tasks, and so is the competence of Alpha. Maybe, of course, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine also has another special forces unit for anti-terrorist operation, but why is it armed with shit?
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    6. 2sila
      2sila 24 February 2014 12: 14
      +1
      Here is the regular helmet of the SBU
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 24 February 2014 15: 44
        +2
        that is, lower than the regular one and this is the regular one? but what is the regular one? every photo, then with a "regular" one and in the last photo there are four and all "regular"
        1. Tušila
          Tušila 24 February 2014 16: 48
          -1
          Regular weapons, armaments, equipment, equipment registered with the organization. It is on the "staff" of the organization. (Staffing table).
          Yes, all four full-time.
          And depending on the situation, the soldiers use it as a time sheet according to their combat schedule.
    7. 2sila
      2sila 24 February 2014 12: 17
      0
      During special operations, a regular helmet protected by a visor is used, very good. similar to the one in the picture, but it's not him. Here is the helmet.
    8. 2sila
      2sila 24 February 2014 12: 17
      +1
      During special operations, a regular helmet protected by a visor is used, very good. similar to the one in the picture, but it's not him. Here is the helmet.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 24 February 2014 15: 45
        +1
        also "regular")
        1. Tušila
          Tušila 24 February 2014 16: 48
          0
          Yes, I wrote it.
    9. 2sila
      2sila 24 February 2014 12: 22
      0
      And also, during special operations to free the hostages by Alpha, the regular sphere is used. Here she is. And the whole set together.
      The guy in your photo has a "sphere" on scotch tape.
    10. 2sila
      2sila 24 February 2014 12: 22
      +2
      And also, during special operations to free the hostages by Alpha, the regular sphere is used. Here she is. And the whole set together.
      The guy in your photo has a "sphere" on scotch tape.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 24 February 2014 15: 06
        +1
        is this a regular sphere? and what then is the "Mask" of various modifications? or "ALTYN" which is in your photo? and an expert engineer?
        but what do you think it is, if not a sphere?
        1. Tušila
          Tušila 24 February 2014 16: 32
          0
          So many lyrical, nervous-emotional, personal definitions that are not relevant to the topic that you can not immediately understand the essence in your post.
        2. Tušila
          Tušila 24 February 2014 16: 44
          0
          What does the Titanium helmet "Sphere" STSh-81? What do you specifically ask?
        3. Tušila
          Tušila 24 February 2014 17: 07
          0
          I’m trying to sort out your post somehow, but I just can’t get the gist.
          Helmet "Mask" with Altyn made by Research Institute of Steel? So? And what's next then?
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 24 February 2014 19: 36
            +1
            Serezhenka, I don’t know where is STSh-81. Did you write
            the standard scope is used
            and you write a comment with the certainty that you are right. while posting a photo of the Altyn helmet while calling it "Sphere". I don’t know about you, but for me these are different things. and if you were so pedantic and critical about this to the photos that I posted, then be so kind as not to screw it up. Sorry, I have to go, but as they said above, if you google, then the difference between the helmets can be easily seen. Photo "There was a sphere, here is a photo of what is on your photo. this is what I called Altyn


    11. 2sila
      2sila 24 February 2014 12: 23
      0
      The whole set for special operations.
    12. 2sila
      2sila 24 February 2014 12: 23
      +1
      The whole set for special operations.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 24 February 2014 15: 11
        0
        where is there at least one "sphere" expert? and can I answer with your words that all helmets are different and the photo does not understand when and where it was made.
        just at your level try to talk
        1. Tušila
          Tušila 24 February 2014 17: 19
          -1
          Then you have to go down from the pedal and go to some understandable dialect.
          I have not yet heard a single answer from you on the merits, and if it had not been for Pupyrchaty, I am sure that you yourself would still not have figured it out.
          The last soldier has a helmet very similar to the "Mask" with Altyn, but I cannot vouch for it, since this is a patented product of the Research Institute of Steel. The helmet can be an analogue of a local production or in general a replica of the PSH-77 TIG helmet, just kidding of course.
          I explain why they are different, I have not heard from you.
          The fighters are equipped according to the time schedule and each has his own tasks, and therefore they are different.
          About "close background" is cool. But the close-up and general when shooting is informative, but you may not know this.
          Firstly, it's spring!
          Secondly, you can see the road, the river, the "LZP" line and a whole dam!
          Get down from the pedal, talk normally.
    13. 2sila
      2sila 24 February 2014 12: 28
      +1
      I will add, moreover, that "spheres" are not assigned to the Berkut by the state, since their duties do not include the release of a hostage and the storming of buildings. I have not found a single photo of the Berkut in the "sphere".
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  12. Follow us
    Follow us 24 February 2014 08: 48
    +6
    If you look at the full record, these guys covered up the departure of VVshnikov. http://youtu.be/xKzhbDW8Yc8
  13. Dimsan
    Dimsan 24 February 2014 08: 52
    +7
    Well, you as small children quarrel here, stock up on popcorn and see what happens !!! And it will be that over the course of the year these same young men will realize that they are ... if they will go and overthrow this power !!! Economically, we are already covering them with oxygen, and Europe will not even lift a finger to help them. So Yulichka doesn’t have to throw the robe far)))
  14. Horst78
    Horst78 24 February 2014 09: 09
    +3
    I was amused by how the "golden eagle" holds the weapon. It's not just that the store is being held, but also that the butt is not on the shoulder but above it. So they show off in airball.
  15. parazit
    parazit 24 February 2014 09: 11
    +4
    The author has one question:
    Why then did the real "Berkut" interact with these supposedly "pseudo specialists"?
    Or are they so stupid and gullible?
    They came to pick up the brave uncles with Kalash and warm, and let's shoot together ...?
    Your conjectures are sewn with white thread, and about the shoes ... I happened to participate in the first Kyrgyz revolution, we were in shoes too, because the officers. Not everyone expected that they would wave with batons, but I had to ...;)
    1. exiv200gt
      exiv200gt 24 February 2014 09: 55
      -1
      But admit it strange that the special forces are shooting from the Ak-47s, which was adopted by the Soviet army in 49.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 24 February 2014 13: 19
        +2
        Quote: exiv200gt
        But admit it strange that the special forces are shooting from the Ak-47s, which was adopted by the Soviet army in 49.


        Not weird. If you looked at the information about the standard weapons of the same golden eagle, you would have found the same AKMS there. I posted the video below from their propaganda video and from the exercises where they are with these machines.
    2. kare
      kare 24 February 2014 09: 57
      0
      Well, yes, they didn’t expect. Two months the meat grinder goes, and they are on the Maidan in shoes, they thought at the ball, but then it turns out they shoot? I wonder their surprise.
  16. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 24 February 2014 09: 45
    +5
    Quote: Asgard
    Just returned. The situation is pre-storm. To say that people are completely confused, I won’t tell you. But everyone hopes for Russia and is afraid that Russia (as a state) will not support them .... (there is every reason))
    But there is a desire to fight. I took out the families of my friends, and the guys stayed THERE (with the "equipment"))), given the special training, they will cause problems to the Bandera people ...
    Cells are being created in Mukachevo, Berdichev, Vinnitsa ... Although the main population is scared, Yanuca signed a "betrayal" ...
    Tymoshenko howled, the police have an order not to leave the unit, Russia "hums" and no "signals" to the Russian people living there.
    CARRY will begin (100%)) then the war of the Slavs with the ideology of zapadentsev, in the western regions they will definitely deal with the Russians .....

    We must go again .....

    Russia should intervene in the conflict, but crossing the border of a foreign state is a war, but illegal special units of the RF Armed Forces or the FSB can be sent, the GRU and the pennant are created to wage war on enemy territory, while creating partisan and rebel units in Afghanistan, this did not work, because the country did not need revolutionary events, the Russian (eastern) population of Ukraine, is weary of the lack of special, professional military assistance!
  17. w.barc
    w.barc 24 February 2014 10: 13
    0
    Yes it was SBU, bandages to designate their own)))))
    by the way http://vk.com/club50013645 recruit volunteers to help Russians in Ukraine
  18. parazit
    parazit 24 February 2014 10: 22
    +1
    exiv200gt and you try to break to read first from 7,62, and then 5,45. Feel the difference. :)
    1. exiv200gt
      exiv200gt 24 February 2014 10: 51
      -1
      Why break through there ??? Shushara with plywood shields, 5,45 just for anti-terrorist operations. ETOGES is not a full-blown war.
      1. parazit
        parazit 24 February 2014 11: 02
        0
        maybe the bulk of the "shushara with plywood shields", but the "elite fighters" of the Maidan are equipped no worse, and sometimes even better than the police.
  19. Georgic
    Georgic 24 February 2014 10: 25
    0
    Interesting observations. Everything just got more confused. In general, indeed, in a full video, the guys in the blindfolds covered up the BB. This is clearly visible. If these are SBU employees, then it turns out they are partially provocateurs. Also, interesting food is hidden in the radio interception of snipers in the center of Kiev https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IcMmpXhRIw.
    Everything is confused, confused ..
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  21. Beethoven
    Beethoven 24 February 2014 11: 02
    0
    God, how many hot guys are here. Is it really so bad at home that you want the romance of war ?? You would have protected your land from the Kremlin gang first, and then soon as the French Marseille will be. Before rescuing East Ukraine from mythical fascists, restore order.

    I myself am from the Donetsk region. Yes, the people are scared. But he is frightened by Russian television and local representatives of the Ukrainian counterpart of the party of crooks and thieves and stories of evil zapadents. Someone give facts of oppression of the inhabitants of the east and south. And not just a scumbag of some kind (you can find such everywhere), but at least something depends on someone’s saying.

    How can this article be seriously discussed? It is enough just to watch the whole video and listen to Zakharchenko, who on the eve allowed to issue weapons. Article nonsense (sorry, author). Pornography for young unsatisfied pseudo-patriots.

    And now the record for minuses please :)
  22. Bismark
    Bismark 24 February 2014 11: 10
    0
    Quote: lewerlin53rus
    Quote: Scandinavian
    pissed away Ukraine.

    no, it’s just beginning.


    I'd like to believe in it, otherwise judging by the news everything ...
  23. itr
    itr 24 February 2014 11: 17
    -1
    Yes, they didn’t bleed anything! It simply wasn’t with 90 so there is a reason to introduce tanks to kill all tightly
    pick up what belongs by right, and let the rest feed the angel Merkel. Yes, and this with a scythe to burn vividly Strange people a year ago, she is a thief and right now the queen
  24. itr
    itr 24 February 2014 11: 20
    0
    And the fact that they are dressed in the wrong form is that you can’t give a damn with a machine gun you can soak it in shorts and a T-shirt
    By the way, I admire the cops. Well done, the oath was not in vain that they couldn’t be said, but their army
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  26. scientist
    scientist 24 February 2014 11: 55
    +2
    Everything will depend on how the United States behaves. The option with South Ossetia is possible, but unlikely, they will not step on the same rake. After all, the main goal for them has been achieved, the legitimate authority has been overthrown, and it will not work quickly to form a new legitimate authority. The demarcation process between western and eastern Ukraine will be much faster than elections and referenda. Therefore, the United States will continue to maintain control over Bandera, who have already smelled of blood, easy money and easy victory. Therefore, the financing of gangs will continue, the information war is gaining strength and becoming more rigid.
    I am sure that now, from the most trained extremists and foreign mercenaries, small combat units are being formed that will seep into Eastern Ukraine: Sevastopol, Donbass, Crimea for organizing terrorist acts, destroying pro-Russian leaders and organizing sabotage.
    I hope the Ukrainian Golden Eagle will be able to organize a worthy meeting of these fascists, bandits and traitors.
    It would be nice to find a worthy military leader, whom the army would follow. It seems to me the best option for quick restoring order, maintaining Ukraine and holding normal elections.
  27. ed65b
    ed65b 24 February 2014 11: 59
    0
    About the weapon, as they can and keep not the brand and year of issue. But the shoes set off, here "oil painting" as Gotsman said.
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  29. Orik
    Orik 24 February 2014 12: 52
    +1
    The indicated group is the security forces. Who is not clear, but everything is possible because on this day, the Maidan launched an attack using weapons. They cut off a group of fighters of explosives, weapons at the moment were not issued by security forces. It could be the SBU, or maybe just the senior officers of the VV or the Ministry of Internal Affairs quickly put on their uniforms and went to get the people around, from here and so many strange things and interpretations.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=xKzhbDW8Yc8
  30. donavi49
    donavi49 24 February 2014 12: 57
    +4
    These are the Special Forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Omega, parts of the Golden Eagle and the Ministry of Internal Affairs armed with anti-terrorist operations, and also the guys from the Central Security Service of the Security Service of Ukraine.

    Here is a video of them blocking progress from the October Palace (where the most intense shootings were).

  31. Pimply
    Pimply 24 February 2014 13: 18
    +2
    Stupid article. Firstly, there is a video on how the SBU retreats to Berkut.



    Secondly, there was an official recognition of the opening of the fire.

    Thirdly, the supporters of the current government wore yellow and blue armbands - the Maydanites several times warned their supporters about this identification mark from the Maidan stage.

    Fourth, AKMS from the Ukrainian police in the 90s was first taken away, then returned. And there he stayed. Here is a video about Berkut, here it is clearly visible at the 21st second that in the foreground there are AK with body kits, and then everyone in the row has AKMS with village forends.
    Kstiti, and this form shines further on frames.



    Here is a video report from 2012 from Kirovograd, where the golden eagle arranges demonstrations - as the main weapon of AKMS.

    http://podrobnosti.ua/video/podrobnosti/2012/10/17/864523.html

    Here you can also see in the background Golden Eagle and drove up SBU-Schnick with yellow armbands.



    The facts must be approached adequately, and not from the standpoint of hysterical young ladies
    1. Obliterator
      Obliterator 24 February 2014 13: 57
      +1
      Well, also retention for the store is not something wrong. You can hold it in any way: both for the fore-end, and for the neck of the store, and for the store itself. This is not considered erroneous, but rather depends on the manufacture and preferences of the shooter.
    2. TS3sta3
      TS3sta3 24 February 2014 13: 58
      0
      sbu - on video from donavi49. on your video "suddenly" they do not look like sbu, and they are not unloaded from akms. in the first video, too, they do not look like SBU fighters. rather some kind of airsoft players - the difference is very clearly visible when comparing the movements and equipment of the earbuds from the video from donavi49. if these sbushniks were given an order to clean up the Maidan, they would clean it up, and not run away from the crowd armed with "only stones, bats and wooden shields." like any other anti-terrorist unit.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 24 February 2014 14: 01
        +1
        Have you ever done a sweep?
        1. TS3sta3
          TS3sta3 24 February 2014 14: 33
          +1
          No, I didn’t clean up when I didn’t. and? was it stripping?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 24 February 2014 14: 50
            0
            Quote: TS3sta3
            No, I didn’t clean up when I didn’t. and? was it stripping?

            I spent. Can you imagine the consequences of stripping in such conditions? With 30000 people in the square?
            1. TS3sta3
              TS3sta3 24 February 2014 15: 01
              0
              mountains of corpses, a sea of ​​blood.
              those. it was not a sweep, but a cover for the retreating. or they were given the order to clean up, they came and saw "30000 people in the square" and retreated, firing back.
              but the conversation was about the fact that it was not a security service, in comparison with the video above. Who? maybe "omega". but not sbu. and there was no order to clean up the Maidan.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 24 February 2014 15: 16
                0
                Quote: TS3sta3
                but the conversation was about the fact that it was not a security service, in comparison with the video above. Who? maybe "omega". but not sbu. and there was no order to clean up the Maidan.

                And this is another question. Fighters of several power units acted there, and, apparently, often mixed up - well, as it usually happens.
    3. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 24 February 2014 14: 03
      +4
      I’ll also add to these videos that the SBU guys did not march in full view of the banderlogs, but secretly drove up from different points on inconspicuous cars and secretly took up positions.
      And then they gave the banderlogs what they have been asking for a long time.
      And then they just as quietly disappeared when the Rada issued an idiotic order to stop the CTO.
      1. TS3sta3
        TS3sta3 24 February 2014 14: 45
        +1
        on the internet there is still a video of how these with yellow armbands recede - to their full height, along the middle of the road, with a chain. and shoot back. interesting tactics.
    4. sds555
      sds555 24 February 2014 16: 13
      +14
      The guys found in the internet such an analysis, very interesting
      1. Yegorchik
        Yegorchik 24 February 2014 17: 56
        +2
        Quote: sds555
        The guys found in the internet such an analysis, very interesting

        At the moment, the only analysis of the battle you can trust.
      2. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 24 February 2014 20: 49
        0
        Quote: sds555
        The guys found in the internet such an analysis, very interesting

        ES.DE.Three fives thanks for the video.
        With the person who put together this analytical material I agree 100%.
  32. Midshipman
    Midshipman 24 February 2014 13: 28
    -1
    An hour ago on TV they showed shooting from the Maidan. The protesters were shot not from the golden eagle, but from behind - a bullet could clearly be seen in a tree next to a group of fired maydauns.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 24 February 2014 13: 49
      -2
      Quote: Midshipman
      An hour ago on TV they showed shooting from the Maidan. The protesters were shot not from the golden eagle, but from behind - a bullet could clearly be seen in a tree next to a group of fired maydauns.


      There is such a thing - a rebound
      1. TS3sta3
        TS3sta3 24 February 2014 14: 07
        +2
        maybe ricochet, or maybe not. a rebound in the direction of the shooter also probably happens.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 24 February 2014 14: 20
          0
          Quote: TS3sta3
          maybe ricochet, or maybe not. a rebound in the direction of the shooter also probably happens.

          More often than you think. A bullet, when faced with an obstacle, often leaves at an unpredictable angle.
          1. TS3sta3
            TS3sta3 24 February 2014 14: 36
            +1
            so I don’t argue about the unpredictable. Reverse rebound - this is interesting, the main thing is not visible from what, and how it happened.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 24 February 2014 14: 51
              -1
              Quote: TS3sta3
              so I don’t argue about the unpredictable. Reverse rebound - this is interesting, the main thing is not visible from what, and how it happened.

              What is interesting if this is more than commonplace? From any stone or border
              1. TS3sta3
                TS3sta3 24 February 2014 15: 13
                0
                ok, it's hard to argue here. one thing is clear: either they shoot from the side of the Maidan, or it is a reverse rebound from a stone or a border. everything can be.
  33. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 24 February 2014 13: 47
    +3
    It seems that the author himself does not understand what nonsense he concocted.
    AK can be held under the store and forend and at the same time conduct aimed fire.
    The fact that one of the soldiers is wearing shoes can also be easily explained, he could not have had time to put on ankle boots or raised them from the house, etc. It could have been an operative who put on the equipment and went along with the "Alphas" to shoot the banderlog, not the point It is important that you went with your own.
    Dressings in general since the storming of the Amin’s palace have been used by all and sundry, this is done so as not to shoot down their comrade in arms in the heat of battle.
  34. Vita_vko
    Vita_vko 24 February 2014 14: 05
    +3
    It is clear that it was not without provocateurs. As a rule, this is a special group of militants that, on command, changes into one or the other in order to foment conflict. This is an old tactic of destabilizing the region, which was still used by the Nazis to incite hatred of the Soviet army and intimidate the civilian population in World War II. To combat such provocateurs, special intelligence units were always created, which they hunted, calculated and destroyed. Now armed provocateurs in various guises will trample to the East of Ukraine. I hope there they will be met with dignity and buried deeper.
  35. Rescuer
    Rescuer 24 February 2014 14: 11
    +13
    Eh guys, fluttered us. Here we are going to defend Odessa and the Orthodox faith ourselves with our little brothers, but if we ask you to help, then help as much as you can. We are arming quietly, we have provisions and we need to bribe medicines. Last week, friends burned documents, everything except personal files, weapons were removed from the adminbudivel. While in the south it is quiet, but in two weeks I think it will begin. Every day, cross, RB and fire. I don’t serve myself, but I was the head of the service in a paramilitary organization, then I cut my salary and forced me to quit, the horses were pedal, but I won’t hand over my native city to the Uniates and Bandera. I plan to take my family to Transnistria, I have three children. Oh, how I envy you living in Russia, one language, one faith, one idea. The whole world can be brought to its knees. And here every day Russians shake and shake us Russians, and even when I’m going to Russia I’m called my own Ukrainians. Although the grandmother from Yaroslavl, the grandfather from the Lower, Zhinka from Tiraspol.

    ATTENTION in the view from the second minute the Israeli gives instructions to the soldiers of the right sector, literally he is wounded, medics (medico)


    1. demonuga
      demonuga 24 February 2014 17: 02
      +1
      We hope that soon the southeast of Ukraine will be independent and go under the auspices of Russia or become the territory of Russia
      1. Hitrovan07
        Hitrovan07 24 February 2014 17: 29
        +1
        What is so official - "patronage". Eh ...
    2. alone
      alone 24 February 2014 22: 18
      -2
      In this video, there were more than one armed man among those who received bullets. The firing was obviously aimed at defeating unarmed people, and they also shot at those who removed the wounded from the field.
      This is the Lord, a war crime !! There can be no other explanation and wording!
      1. Victor-M
        Victor-M 25 February 2014 00: 08
        0
        Quote: lonely
        In this video, there were more than one armed man among those who received bullets. The firing was obviously aimed at defeating unarmed people, and they also shot at those who removed the wounded from the field.
        This is the Lord, a war crime !! There can be no other explanation and wording!

        At the expense of the crime, maybe yes, but the question is on whose side, the work of Western provocateurs surrenders, and nothing else.
        1. alone
          alone 25 February 2014 20: 47
          0
          Quote: Victor-M
          the work of Western provocateurs surrenders, and nothing else.


          So the fact of the matter is that even if this is the work of the provocateurs, this asshole who ordered to open fire (if not to kill), simply set his people under the criminal code.
          I saw one moment: the militia was firing from above. A group of Maydans rallied behind the trees. At this moment one of the Maydan men leaned back and turned downstairs, struck down by a bullet. If wounded in the back, he would have remained in place. He was wounded in the chest. And they shot from where there couldn’t be provocateurs. The whole territory was under the control of law enforcement agencies. The police shot people, this is a fact.
    3. internatio
      internatio 25 February 2014 01: 28
      0
      Hold on, Lifeguard, brother! We, too, are preparing, but the people are being distracted by "strange" formations, to put it mildly. And the Americans are already wandering around Simferopol, there are many of them in various missions. Plus dozens of cultists ...
  36. TS3sta3
    TS3sta3 24 February 2014 14: 18
    0
    there was permission to use weapons by security forces for:

    http://gigamir.net/news/politics/pub617981

    The Minister of Internal Affairs Vitaliy Zakharchenko made an appeal to Ukrainian citizens, in which he said that the increasing attacks of radical extremists and victims among law enforcement officers in Kiev forced to sign orders to issue military weapons to law enforcement officers.
    "As part of the work of the Anti-Terrorist Center under the Security Service of Ukraine, I signed the appropriate orders - the law enforcement officers have been issued with military weapons and they will be used in accordance with the Law of Ukraine" On the Police ":
    to protect citizens from attacks that threaten their life and health, as well as the release of hostages;
    to repel an attack on a police officer or members of his family if their life or health is in danger;
    to repel an attack on guarded objects, convoys, residential premises of citizens, premises of state and public enterprises, institutions and organizations, as well as to release them in case of capture, etc. "

    there was no order to clean up the Maidan with the help of special forces. That group, in the video, probably belongs to the special forces of the golden eagle "omega" and they covered the withdrawal of their own. the video shows it. that is, it was not a sweep, but a response to the Maydauns, who were shooting and stoning the veveshniki.
    I don’t understand why the authorities escaped? scared of blood?
  37. OPTR
    OPTR 24 February 2014 14: 19
    0
    Quote: Prapor-527
    Dock


    In such documents that you have cited, the link is always useful:
    http://avr.org.ua/index.php/viewDoc/1035/

    And I recommend from the same source, although not quite on the topic of the article:
    http://avr.org.ua/index.php/viewDoc/1822/
  38. Rescuer
    Rescuer 24 February 2014 14: 50
    0
    In the video from the second minute, the Israeli (military specialist) gives instructions to the soldiers of the right sector, literally he is wounded, medics (medico). English speech with a strong Jewish accent. Guys from the right sector are trained by bitakhons and tzahal specialists. Watch how the guys in Plastunsky move, and this is not one year of preparation, so now they are not teaching in the army. The rest of the guys on the Maidan just give themselves use. I feel sorry for them, with their blood they overthrow the thieves and plant other thieves who will not allow the mistakes of previous thieves. This is a war against the Russians and Russia as a whole. God bless us.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 24 February 2014 15: 24
      -4
      Quote: Lifeguard
      In the video from the second minute, the Israeli (military specialist) gives instructions to the soldiers of the right sector, literally he is wounded, medics (medico). English speech with a strong Jewish accent.

      You carry such nonsense that it is simply amazing. Have you ever heard an Israeli accent?
      English is spoken by the Spanish journalist of the newspaper El Mundo. Israeli military experts with him, damn it.
      His bitachons and specialists from Tzahal.
      1. Yegorchik
        Yegorchik 24 February 2014 18: 20
        +3
        Pupyrchaty, and he’s right, acquaintances from Kiev say that they saw a group of Jews and you don’t buy their own money. Yes, and deputy Pashinsky, a Jew, by the way, by nationality, he took a sniper from the Maidan, it’s like a pimpled one, and you're talking about rebounds you push it, so it’s your business that’s not a hell’s not an amer’s trait, the Americans themselves have gone awry from the events, then they recognize Yanuka as president in a day, and they just don’t know their Israelis did not know.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 24 February 2014 18: 28
          -2
          Quote: Egorchik
          Pupyrchaty, and he’s right, acquaintances from Kiev say that they saw a group of Jews and you don’t buy their own money. Yes, and deputy Pashinsky, a Jew, by the way, by nationality, he took a sniper from the Maidan, it’s like a pimpled one, and you're talking about rebounds you push it, so it’s your business that’s not a hell’s ain’s thing, the Americans themselves are crippled by the events, then they recognize Yanuka as president in a day, and they just don’t know their Israelis didn’t

          I love anti-Semites. They will find Mossad's hand everywhere. 8) ZOG is trying to take over the world.
          1. Yegorchik
            Yegorchik 24 February 2014 18: 47
            +1
            Why are anti-Semites, I’ve always treated Jews well, I grew up with two guys whose grandmother lived in our lane. Yes, and now I communicate with mixed families, there are no purely Jewish families among my friends, I just compared the facts that I know and saw on video .
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 24 February 2014 19: 16
              -2
              Quote: Egorchik
              Why are anti-Semites, I’ve always treated Jews well, I grew up with two guys whose grandmother lived in our lane. Yes, and now I communicate with mixed families, there are no purely Jewish families among my friends, I just compared the facts that I know and saw on video .

              Each anti-Semite has its own Jew or Jews, to whom he belongs to the type and with the help of which he tries to justify his xenophobia: they say that I don’t fear and hate all Jews, there are two to whom I am indulgent. Sorry, can I no longer talk to you? I'm a little squeamish.
              1. Papakiko
                Papakiko 24 February 2014 19: 33
                +4
                Quote: Pimply
                Sorry, can I no longer talk to you? I'm a little squeamish.

                Here is what a "desman" is obtained from you.
                The man told you:
                Quote: Egorchik
                Pupyrchaty, and he’s right, acquaintances from Kiev say that they saw a group of Jews and you don’t buy their own money. Yes, and deputy Pashinsky, a Jew, by the way, by nationality, he took a sniper from the Maidan, it’s like a pimpled one, and you're talking about rebounds you push it, so it’s your business that’s not a hell’s not an amer’s trait, the Americans themselves have gone awry from the events, then they recognize Yanuka as president in a day, and they just don’t know their Israelis did not know.

                You answer:
                Quote: Pimply
                I love anti-Semites. They will find Mossad's hand everywhere.
                8) ZOG is trying to take over the world.

                He answered you:
                Quote: Egorchik
                Why are anti-Semites, I’ve always treated Jews well, I grew up with two guys whose grandmother lived in our lane. Yes, and now I communicate with mixed families, there are no purely Jewish families among my friends, I just compared the facts that I know and saw on video .

                And you give him a hackneyed record:
                Quote: Pimply
                Each anti-Semite has its own Jew or Jews, to whom he belongs to the type and with the help of which he tries to justify his xenophobia: they say that I don’t fear and hate all Jews, there are two to whom I am indulgent.

                Take what pills or go on vacation-fly-sezdit. Better if it is Nepal.
                You've got enough liberal nonsense here, let people take a break from you.
                Quote: Pimply
                English is spoken by the Spanish journalist of the newspaper El Mundo.

                And so mat so in English laid out.
                Those are the "peaceful" Maydautians with an air rifle with optics and injuries (http://topwar.ru/39976-ukraina-ubitye-i-ranenye-vostok-i-za
                pad.html # c
                omment-id-1968631) Etc. etc. Remember our pimply "friend", an expert in all fields, mlyahhh.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 24 February 2014 20: 12
                  -1
                  Quote: Papakiko
                  And so mat so in English laid out.

                  Yeah. If we proceed from this logic, then from what lyad in English should an Israeli swear?
                  Or screaming at a Spanish medic - and not in English? Funny right?

                  http://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2014/02/21/53079211268e3e402a8b4585.html

                  The original video.

                  We are not talking about what was happening on the Maidan - I do not consider the legitimacy of certain actions here. So do not translate the arrows.

                  And before that, he considered the delusionality of at least a specific statement in the article.

                  How happy I will laugh at any Ukrainian pseudo-patriot who claims that Russian snipers were shooting, or a Jew who proudly declares about the "Jewish hundred" operating on the Maidan - simply because there are both familiar journalists and just acquaintances who provide objective information with places.

                  I consider the justice of the Maidan, how bad or good it is. In the post to which you attached your tail, I consider another anti-Semitic tantrum in a specific post. And I had no doubt that you would immediately support her.
                  1. Papakiko
                    Papakiko 24 February 2014 20: 40
                    +3
                    Quote: Pimply
                    I am considering another anti-Semitic tantrum in a specific post. And I had no doubt that you would immediately support her.

                    For me personally, there is nothing new in that you will again and again transfer arrows to anti-simitism and, ultimately, kalakost and Jewish sacrifice. And also about not the fallibility and honestly truthful holiness of all the facts you state.
                    Quote: Pimply
                    I consider the justice of the Maidan, how bad or good it is.

                    Quote: Pimply
                    I do not consider the legitimacy of certain actions here.

                    iiiiipat, justice, expertise !!! crying
                    Your amusements and resourcefulness amuse me on any question and fact.
                    Quote: Pimply
                    http://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2014/02/21/53079211268e3e402a8b4585.htmlОриг
                    Inal video.

                    laughing hold me seven, original.
                    They froze another stupidity and exposed themselves in indecent light.
                    Eugene, I repeatedly caught and corrected you in your erroneous, false statements.
                    The original is only in the flash memory of the video recorder on which this video was shot and recorded -this is 1.
                    In the digital age, any miracle can be done with audio nearby, and with video too-this is 2.
                    If a video is posted by an agency on its resource, it only means that this agency bought this information first or for a lot of money from a person who wants to sell the "product" -this is 3!
                    Stop flogging bullshit, it is running from you and so on.
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 24 February 2014 20: 43
                      0
                      Outbought, give me the original, around enemies - and did not expect another. At the same time, the funny thing is that you know that I'm right. 8)
                      1. Papakiko
                        Papakiko 24 February 2014 21: 00
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Moreover, the funny thing is that


                        Quote: Pimply
                        you know i'm right

                        Forgot Eugene signs ???????????????????? to deliver.
                        Quote: Pimply
                        that i am right

                        Desired-seeming can be given out many times as valid.
                        As an example, the topic in this: http: //topwar.ru/39976-ukraina-ubitye-i-ranenye-vostok-i-zapad.html#comment-id-
                        1968631
                        Do not freak out, child. I understand that you are hysterical and this is your right, but let's see what we have in the video. For example, the first character. Pneumatics for 670 hryvnias, made in China. VAM rifle 4-4. The second character with a Fort injury
                        "specialist-expert" from Tmatarakanska, mmmmmlyayayayah. hi
              2. Yegorchik
                Yegorchik 24 February 2014 20: 30
                +1
                Quote: Pimply
                Sorry, can I no longer talk to you?

                You can even blacklist me to me because it’s not cold not hot.
                By the way, the guys here Asgard unsubscribed above that he saw a very technically sophisticated group of unknown origin on a trip to Ukraine. Is it really that they began to equip the SBU.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 24 February 2014 20: 32
                  -1
                  Quote: Egorchik
                  You can even blacklist me to me because it’s not cold not hot.
                  By the way, the guys here Asgard unsubscribed above that he saw a very technically sophisticated group of unknown origin on a trip to Ukraine. Is it really that they began to equip the SBU.

                  Yes, why would I add you to the blacklist. I prefer the dirt to be cleaned by law.

                  How many and what can write Asgrad without specific bindings knows most of the site guards.
                  1. Yegorchik
                    Yegorchik 24 February 2014 20: 55
                    0
                    Quote: Pimply


                    How many and what can write Asgrad without specific bindings knows most of the site guards.

                    Do not talk to me, I am also squeamish, about the Asgart group I wrote not to you, but to normal visitors to the site.
  39. Clueless
    Clueless 24 February 2014 17: 18
    +2
    Quote: Scandinavian
    We won at the Olympics, but shamed Ukraine. A story similar to the 2008 year, everything is watered. events occur during significant events ...


    We didn’t crap anything. They have their own country, they should think with their head. Let them now play democracy, especially after the national currency collapses to ...

    And then go down quietly from the hill and .. the whole herd
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    1. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 24 February 2014 17: 54
      +4
      Quote: cknp
      Sitting at the computer, listening to what your provladny media "hang on your ears" (= the government, fearing for their seats), you can easily make mistakes. Haven't they announced your verdict in the "swamp case" today? And Ukraine did not tell you that there were extremists in the swamp. Only after visiting the place of events, you can reasonably argue here on the forum. Not everyone has the spirit (will) to bring the matter to the end ... Take the example of the Ukrainians, how to fight for yourself ...

      We have been successfully fighting for ourselves and for our brothers for the past few centuries. Plant marshes, and in zones to crush so that this scum does not spread.

      You set up "to the end". This is your choice, now "to the end" and live.
      We are satisfied with any of your choices, but you do not need to speak for everyone. If there are people in Ukraine who will say that they are not on the way with Bandera, then have the courage to accept their choice and their path "to the end."

      And only as soon as not justice, an essence hated by the Russian people, manifests itself, and double standards start working again ... then we will have our say and see who the "truth" turns out to be in the end.
    2. lestad
      lestad 24 February 2014 19: 00
      0
      an example from the west or east?
    3. Victor-M
      Victor-M 25 February 2014 00: 35
      0
      Quote: cknp
      . Take an example from the Ukrainians, how to fight for yourself ...

      You probably wanted to say "lower yourself"? Well, you learned this well, the West applauds while lying down with laughter.
      1. cknp
        cknp 25 February 2014 13: 29
        0
        And you, it seems, did not even notice how you have been constantly and for a long time "lowered". It has become a habit with you.
  41. cknp
    cknp 24 February 2014 17: 52
    -8
    [quote = Rescuer] We are here while ourselves with the little brothers will defend Odessa and the Orthodox faith ... And here Russians are shaking and shaking us every day here
    From someone to protect.? And how, interestingly, Russians are shaking? Judging by the line about the administration building, it’s from its own ... And, apparently, there is something to hide, since you burn documents!
    1. Rescuer
      Rescuer 24 February 2014 20: 35
      +2
      Dear SKNP, I am a sailor - KDP. Last year he worked as a marine lifeguard, head of service. He was not attached to state secret. Friends from school work in the organs, and I train with the guys at Dynamo, I work with teenagers for free, I teach children and bring up - not only mine. In Odessa I went to the administration when the seizure was planned, and if I sat at home and drank beer, then in many areas all the admin buildings were seized for a long time. The guys hide and do the right thing, you can’t give them away.

      Pupyrchaty, believe me, I know a Jewish accent, I from Odessa, plus, at one time worked for one oligarch from Haifa, I often visited there. He was engaged in the protection of the Israelis, held several seminars over the hill with the Jewish soldiers. Worked with them in a group.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 24 February 2014 20: 47
        -1
        Quote: Lifeguard
        Pupyrchaty, believe me, I know a Jewish accent, I from Odessa, plus, at one time worked for one oligarch from Haifa, I often visited there. He was engaged in the protection of the Israelis, held several seminars over the hill with the Jewish soldiers. Worked with them in a group.


        And I learned to identify the Jewish accent 8)) Damn, how I love anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists. They see the ZOG and the Jewish accent everywhere. 8) Especially in the Spanish word medico, which is not surprising, since the Spaniards are filming the El Mundo newspaper. But you - the nerves from communicating with the oligarch from Haifa and "Jewish fighters". Bravo. Bis.
        1. Rescuer
          Rescuer 24 February 2014 21: 22
          +3
          In vain you are so Pimpy, I tried to answer you for good, and you are trying to humiliate me. Words like Medico, Medics, and Medevac have different meanings. Medico, like Medevac, is an abbreviation. I even wanted to tell you about the rest of the words in the video, a translation from the hibernation, but you won’t cook porridge with you. I have a great relationship with many guys from Israel, we correspond. It is what it is. Perhaps the cameraman was Spaniard, but for the whole video he did not say a word. The Spanish accent cannot be confused with the Israeli one.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 24 February 2014 22: 12
            -2
            Quote: Lifeguard
            In vain you are so Pimpy, I tried to answer you for good, and you are trying to humiliate me. Words like Medico, Medics, and Medevac have different meanings. Medico, like Medevac, is an abbreviation. I even wanted to tell you about the rest of the words in the video, a translation from the hibernation, but you won’t cook porridge with you. I have a great relationship with many guys from Israel, we correspond. It is what it is. Perhaps the cameraman was Spaniard, but for the whole video he did not say a word. The Spanish accent cannot be confused with the Israeli one.

            That's right, impossible. No Israeli emphasis on video
        2. Victor-M
          Victor-M 25 February 2014 00: 43
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          And learned to define a Jewish accent

          Well, where are we unshaven, drunk, and even more so with earflaps, you only cares, you have this gift appeared since birth in the USSR wink , with mother’s milk, and since fleeing with the collapse of the country to Israel, it has only strengthened. laughing
  42. lordinicus
    lordinicus 24 February 2014 18: 15
    +1
    Interesting article. The video is just about this, pay attention to the weapons of the so-called protesters that snipers shot at.
    1. kare
      kare 24 February 2014 20: 21
      +1
      Strange robots, during shelling, they hide behind tin shields, like ostriches head to the ground. According to him, they work from pneumatics
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 24 February 2014 20: 34
        +1
        Quote: kare
        Strange robots, during shelling, they hide behind tin shields, like ostriches head to the ground. According to him, they work from pneumatics

        No experience. The first truly serious shelling. Psychology is pure - to hide behind what seems reliable. Nobody taught them on the machine during shelling to look for normal shelter or to lay on the ground. There, for good smoke, they were needed.
        The first shelling is always a shock.
  43. pretorianec
    pretorianec 24 February 2014 19: 53
    +1
    31 seconds sits behind shields behind shields ... hitting the right shin ... shot apparently from behind ...
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 24 February 2014 20: 14
      +1
      That is why he grabs the place of the bullet - the front part of the lower leg, and falls on his back?
      1. pretorianec
        pretorianec 24 February 2014 20: 19
        0
        falls on its side and holds on to the shin on the side ...
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 24 February 2014 20: 41
          0
          Quote: pretorianec
          falls on its side and holds on to the shin on the side ...

          I love how they try to adjust reality to their conviction 8)
          1. pretorianec
            pretorianec 24 February 2014 22: 49
            +1
            I think yes time will not judge already ... =)
  44. kare
    kare 24 February 2014 19: 59
    +1
    From all sides the data is worse than one another. It seems that the night of the squabble has not yet ended. At night Ukraine is dreaming. And the heaviness is in my soul. Efiald, Judah, Brutus, Yanyk ...
  45. exiv200gt
    exiv200gt 24 February 2014 20: 12
    +2
    [quote = sds555] The guys found in the internet such an analysis, very interesting[/ quoteъ]
    Thank you for the video! Very interesting.
    1. Power
      Power 24 February 2014 23: 50
      0
      All the arguments of the author of the video are sewn with white thread using modern computer technology. Is the right sector trying to move the arrows?
  46. saygon66
    saygon66 24 February 2014 22: 29
    +2
    -That's a batch ... Jewish instructors lead the followers of the UNA-UNSO (!) Bandera, Shukhevych and Melnik turned over in their graves ...
    1. internatio
      internatio 25 February 2014 01: 56
      +1
      The thing is that local specialists from the USA, Sweden, Germany, Poland, France, etc. prepare them. I know for sure about those named, but in Crimea there are about a dozen others, and often not Christians. It’s even hard for you to imagine how "exotic" IDP has climbed. For example, there are Mormons, Pentecostals, and so forth ...
      And here is a new order from Kiev: to disband the Berkut special unit everywhere.
      And the inhabitants of Simferopol are trying to protect them with a living screen. From whom? From those who brought this order and requires its implementation. Hold on, dear! Iron nerves to you and steel will.
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  48. Silvestro
    Silvestro 25 February 2014 00: 41
    +1
    It is a shame that will remain for a lifetime. BERKUT will soon abolish the bill already in Parliament
    weapons and relations with journalists are clearly shown here http://ternopil.mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/en/publish/article/855846;jsessionid

    =97D4DDF4097CE0535875AB8901F3D62
  49. speron
    speron 25 February 2014 00: 50
    +1
    Before writing articles, it would be nice to study the material, or chat with those who know the topic, and not give out their fantasies as truth
  50. -Dmitry-
    -Dmitry- 25 February 2014 05: 00
    0
    Some arguments are not worth a damn.

    The first is that the officers of the special units of the Ukrainian militia are famously firing from the machine guns in the crowd, while holding the weapon not by the fore-end (as they are taught even when schoolchildren pass through elementary military (pre-draft) training), but for “shops” ... This seemingly insignificant nuance Immediately with giblets, he says that he shoots - not a law enforcement officer, but an amateur.


    "Specialists" often hold machine guns behind the store.

    And as for the bandages is quite an argument.