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"Eurohohly", or What should think about GDP

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Part one
"For our and your freedom"


I would like to immediately say that this is not analytically weighted material. This is an attempt to recognize the threat. I elected President Yanukovych, and I therefore have the right to ask him before he began to act. Then he will not care, like me.

Yanukovych is offered to sign a charter with European integrators. Russia takes a step and agrees with him. The people, encouraged by the prospect of entering a better life (without corruption, kickbacks, cronyism, gangster lawlessness, arbitrariness of officials, theft of the elite, etc.) for some reason goes out and begins to protest ... peacefully, according to all the rules of a civilized society. The power spits and out of habit beats the first person on the head, which includes the mechanism of radicalization of the protest movement. Next, the “painful reflex” of the pressure and temperature of the medium starts to work by mutual fight. Some do not want, others can not, and someone starts to solve the "eternal" problem of "Muscovites and Jews". Molotov cocktail is actively used by society, intoxicating with its permissiveness. The process involves intermediaries in the person of Ukraine’s friends from Europe and the USA. The process is gaining momentum.

Outwardly, everything is just primitive. Russia gets a headache in the face of a dying brother. Europe delays a part of the territory, and perhaps the whole territory. The United States finds a tool of influence on recalcitrant Russians and two sore points for control: Ukraine and the Caucasus. And it doesn’t matter at all whether Ukraine will eventually share it or it will become part of Europe entirely. The main condition is that it should not be part of Russia as a whole (this probability already tended to zero at the moment, but perhaps the situation would change in the distant future).

If you look through the prism of the USSR, we have fifteen points of pressure on Russia, of which five are activated (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Ukraine, Georgia), and also internal points, purely Russian (in the form of the Caucasus, for example). This is neither good nor bad. It just has a place to be. Such conflicts within the society have occurred in the recent past not only in Ukraine. These are England, Latvia, Georgia, the USA, and everywhere these events were given an unequivocal interpretation (illegal actions). In the situation with Ukraine, everything is exactly the opposite. As in Syria, Serbia, Iraq. There is a regime and there are people. Not the power chosen by the people, but the regime. It follows that any movement towards democracy on our part is a derivative of the surrender of the interests of the country. The only difference is how bloodless the process goes. Everyone remembers the nineties and millions of dead. They cannot be sewn to damned capitalism, whereas with bloody deaths everything is much simpler. Blame the leader of the country, which began to kill. The cynicism of the situation is that if millions died during the accumulation of capital, this is statistics, but if one was killed, for any reason, this is a tragedy.

What is bad "leader" of Ukraine? Everybody. And the fact that maneuvering between bad and very bad. And the fact that he is trying to solve an unsolvable problem from the West, in which the correct answer is everything except the solutions offered by the country's leader. And by the fact that for many years in power he did not create support among the people, ignoring the interests of some (many), condoning the “insignificant” of others (the smaller ones). By allowing the foreign arena to think that his country does not live by its own laws, and still does not fulfill the “common”.

The general trend is clear. Change the foothold of the people on a narrow circle of people, governing the state and vice versa, depending on the tasks to be solved. Managers can, and most importantly, need to change. Here you will not trample, as against the laws of physics. Against the people, too, not trample. The main thing is to correctly shift from "foot to foot", from one point of support to another, power-people-power-people. Formally rested, the president resists the law of this “trampling” and therefore always loses. The authorities and the people here are a contradiction, not a symbiosis, as in the USSR.

A set of detonators of public opinion is known. This is what was discussed at the beginning: corruption, nepotism, theft of the elite, and so on. Probably, this is where the GDP should be thought of. Because “Eurochovers” is simply a contradiction and another point of support, bypassing the “power elite”.

Personally, I deeply doubt that GDP rests on the laurels of its successes of a foreign policy nature, of internal political “consensus” - a balance of interests of different groups, shows for the people in the form of the Olympiad and the world football championship in the not too distant future. American politicians rightly say that in Ukraine they are testing the technology of the change of power in Russia. (Mr. Kissinger, if anyone is interested.) Yanukovych maneuvers between the hammer and the anvil. Lukashenko took away the hammer, resting on the anvil. Putin needs to take the anvil out from under him (avoid controversy), take the hammer off (seize the initiative) and, after the enemy snaps into the ground, twist it and cover it on top of this anvil (solve the problem).

Looking for at least two super efforts. Raise and cover. Take away is work. We are not Belarusians or Ukrainians. We are not uniform even more and scattered over one seventh of the land. There are only 140 million of us. We allow for multi-vector development. We are raising our standard of living due to population decline. We have a low speed of social, protective, non-state-initiated communication. And this low speed, oddly enough, is one of the bases for the stability of our state. We absorb blows. At this positive points end. Our president is bad not because he is bad, but because the country after him is guaranteed to be in turmoil. The mathematician Berezovsky was wrong for himself and was not mistaken for the motherland, for which he probably hung himself in the bathroom, in the most legally “fair” country in the world of England. Hope for luck a second time is stupid. Operation "Successor" will not. As the grip weakens, the country will begin to crawl into chaos. GDP is not eternal, and therefore the balance of interests, too. The hook on which Russia hung on its flight to the abyss, unbent. Slow and implacable. The people do not have a golden parachute. Therefore, there is such a fierce struggle inside for the opportunity to get it individually. Everyone understands this temporary lull precisely as a lull before the storm and tear each other’s means of salvation, which means they sink a ship that is already breathing its last. Which floats! Do not sink! And under a fur coat, rust still reveals a high-alloyed steel of ohrenitelnoy thickness. That is, the flooding of our ship "Russia" will again happen not because IT sank, but because it was drowned, having opened the Kingston in a panic or maliciously.

Events in Ukraine can be considered as torpedoing our ship. There is nothing to close this hole. As the process is gaining momentum and involving more and more new masses, there are already voices that it is time for Russians (following the example of the Ukrainians and, most importantly, fraternally, together) to resolve the issue of their criminal regimes. And it is true. This question has matured and it must be addressed. Half measures, based on the understanding that the demolition of the head of the state is not a way out of the situation, no longer solve the problems. The problem triggers a self-destruct mechanism. She does not ask if she wants this GDP or he has a different vision of the situation, she is on the drum, the guard is tired and the people are tired too. No one is interested already, whether they roll back or not, steal or not, etc. In society, when dubbing the amount of rollback in 90%, the image of silent “fucking” and understanding that this is “finita la comedy” naturally occurs, there is no place to go. We really steal and roll back the whole viaducts during the construction of roads, entire backup lines in the construction of communications, etc.

Formally, for Ukraine, the external perimeter of control simply suggests rolling the system back to some control point in the 2004 year. In reality, they simply change the power in the country because they agreed to it in this form, in 1991, after the calls of Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk in the USA and the collapse of the USSR as a result. The period of gangster capital accumulation due to the robbery of everything and everything, including the country's budget, is over. The first step towards capitalism has worked. The second step will be deeply forced. The West is guaranteed not to make a step “back” in the USSR under the threat of the Third World War.

So, the conflict in Ukraine is a compulsion to conformity. Forcing everyone without exception, and us too, and, naturally, no one will abandon the archaization of one-sixth of the land called the “post-Soviet space” to the level of the Middle Ages, and better still lower, finally and forever.
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  1. Name
    Name 24 February 2014 11: 07
    +15
    Oh, such a h.r.e., this four has muddied and they themselves will not figure it out and have done (done) so much that the EU and the State Department will break their heads from problems laughing They can’t understand it without Russia, because Tymoshenko has refused the post of prime minister ... And nobody needs it anymore.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 24 February 2014 11: 41
      +36
      Today Avakov went to the Crimea, this is the one that the Right Sector includes in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. It will be hot! wassat
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 24 February 2014 12: 31
        +8
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        It will be hot

        ALREADY: A criminal case has been launched against Yanukovych and he is wanted.
        Meanwhile, Russia supports the IMF requirements for Ukraine.
        1. Ivan_Ivanov
          Ivan_Ivanov 24 February 2014 13: 17
          +52
          if we don’t put things in order in Ukraine, they do not give a damn about all the formalities, as those who made the coup did, then in half a year or a year it will also happen in Russia, only in a much more bloody form. You will have Western saboteurs, and Arab militants, and Ukrainian fascists who cannot be distinguished from Russian people, and mercenaries from private security companies, and the collapse of the country ....

          and if you put things in order in Ukraine, I'm sorry, they’ll dare to go to Russia.

          it's time to understand that there is a war going on, and the front line is now passing through Ukraine. if the enemy captures Ukraine, if Ukraine surrenders, the front line will move further east, to Russia. This must not be allowed!
          1. sledgehammer102
            sledgehammer102 24 February 2014 13: 35
            +28
            Author! Did you smoke? Reread your article several times, and then write about who is heading and where it is going and what needs to be done.

            The people, encouraged by the prospect of entering a better life (without corruption, kickbacks, nepotism, arbitrary lawlessness, the arbitrariness of officials, theft of the elite, etc.) for some reason takes to the streets and begins to protest ... peacefully, by all the rules of a civilized society. Power spits and out of habit hits the first one on the head, which includes the mechanism of radicalization of the protest movement.


            Oh yes, the people came out, advocating that their country sign a colonial agreement with the EU and thereby cut off the hand with which it eats. Over the past 10 years, the share of Ukraine in cooperation with our industry has dropped many times and in theory, now only those chains are working that are relatively stable, and in all other industries where Ukraine tried to take us in a fright, more modern and production links, a helicopter engine factory, for example, or NITKA, or localization of spare parts for the Su-27. So, not the people came out, but the herd of EURO-ZOMBIES. And do not shout that the first power gave you a bashka - peaceful protesters with bowlers on their heads, tents, stage equipment do not come.

            Russia gets a headache in the face of a dying brother. Europe draws on itself part of the territory, and maybe the entire territory.


            It is the Ukrainians themselves who get the headache, then Europe, and only then, perhaps, Russia, and even then, not entirely out of brotherly feelings, but because of the half-dead gas pipe, the reliability of which you have already dropped by your actions. And the more you play the fool there, I'm not even talking about the "gas blackmail" of the EU and the Russian Federation, the faster and on more favorable terms we will complete the construction of South Stream, without any energy packages. So, this is just a headache for the EU (because of gas) and Ukraine (because of money).

            The United States finds an instrument of influence on the obstinate Russians and two pain points for control: Ukraine and the Caucasus.


            As history shows, for every cunning knot, we have our own ax. Either the history of Georgia or Syria has taught you / the United States nothing at all that it is more and more dangerous to play a "point" with Russia lately.
            1. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 24 February 2014 13: 35
              +14
              This is what was discussed at the beginning: corruption, nepotism, theft of the elite, etc.


              Yes, we have enough of our liberals and collaborators, "For all good and against all bad !!!" and with the same slogans that are true for any large country, even the United States, even the EU or China - only now they manage to swing it shitty. And yes, the most important thing, it will be very interesting for me to watch how after all your dances with a tambourine around burning tires you will disappear corruption, nepotism, theft of the elite, etc., the interenso will see the privatization of 2.0 and the people "getting rich" before our very eyes, who will remember with nostalgia the bad Yanyk and Kuchma with Yushchenko drinking boiling water instead of tea in the kitchen.

              Two phrases are interesting:
              I elected President Yanukovych,

              и
              Мы not Belarusians and Ukrainians. Мы not even more homogeneous and scattered over one seventh of the land. Us total 140 million people.


              Do you have dual citizenship or are you already a refugee? You are Ukrainian according to your passport, you are not homogeneous even once, and you don’t see 1 / 5 sushi and 45 million of you. Remember that an egg does not teach a chicken.

              We are raising our standard of living due to population decline.

              For Ukraine, this is much more true, and for the third year now the Russian Federation has been experiencing stable population growth, and in 2013 it is already due to natural growth and living standards. You have manuals from the beginning / middle of 2000x, there is also written about the collapse of Russia.

              Our the president is bad not because he is bad, but because after him the country is guaranteed to fall into turmoil.


              Once again, yes, our GDP is but not yours. Here after your country just fell into turmoil)))


              That is, the flooding of our ship "Russia" again will occur not because IT drowned, but because it was drowned, opening the kingstones in a panic or maliciously .....

              Events in Ukraine can be considered as torpedoing of our ship. There is nothing to close this hole.


              Was there a torpedo then? Or did you already have the IMF loaned dozens of lard to pay for our gas ??? So someone discovered in a panic kingstones or maliciously ....

              As the process gains momentum and involves more and more masses, voices are already heard that it is time for the Russians (following the example of the Ukrainians and, most importantly, fraternally, together) to solve the issue of their criminal regimes.


              These voices have the property to be heard exclusively in oil / gas / resource rich countries and this has nothing to do with the regime.

              Formally, for Ukraine, the external management perimeter simply offers to roll back the system to a certain control point in 2004 year.


              Rather, to the beginning of 40x, when Ukrainians and Belarusians died at the hands of Bandera.


              I don’t know what you wanted to say with your article, but I still did not understand the main conclusion. What do you propose doing ???

              In the meantime, your creation is pulling an owl on a globe.
              1. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 24 February 2014 13: 38
                +10
                Quote: baltika-18
                ALREADY: A criminal case has been launched against Yanukovych and he is wanted.
                Meanwhile, Russia supports the IMF requirements for Ukraine.


                Yanyk brought himself to this before, tried to sit on two chairs, as a result, he fell from both of them and now his back is very sore.

                Quote: baltika-18

                Meanwhile, Russia supports the IMF requirements for Ukraine.


                It is necessary for them to pay with us something for gas.

                Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                if we don’t put things in order in Ukraine, they don’t give a damn about all the formalities, as those who made the coup did, then in half a year or a year it will also happen in Russia, only in a much more bloody form.


                There will be a laugh when our OMON will chase them with pissing rags along the "swamp", to the applause of the public. We already had this twice in 1991 and in 2011-2, especially active "meat" still sees the sky in a box.


                Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                if you surrender Ukraine, the front line will move further east, to Russia.


                Nobody handed you over, and the most interesting thing in your story called "REMOVAL" is yet to come. The revolution is devouring its children. As soon as you form a government and the revolutionary romance is over, the question "Where is the money, Zin ???" and here neither Tyagnebok, nor a boxer with rabbits, nor even a woman with a scythe will help you. And if you turn on the gas again, VVP and Miller will thank you, as this will increase the EU's negotiability on the South Stream.

                Many have already said that the 90s for Ukraine are beginning only now. The title of the book "Why Ukraine is not Russia" and the slogans of the 90s immediately pop up in my memory, saying that Ukraine is feeding Russia and will live remarkably well without it.
                1. jjj
                  jjj 24 February 2014 14: 24
                  +6
                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  this will increase EU South Stream negotiability

                  That's somehow in this direction and begins to think about the official Russian policy on Ukraine
                  1. Niki
                    Niki 24 February 2014 17: 03
                    +6
                    So this side is not only along the South, but also along the Yamal-2 (or whatever the devil will analyze it).

                    Literally over the past day infa surfaced that the psheks just decided to lay the second branch of Yamal through their territories:
                    - firstly, bypassing the lion grove with its Bandera hemorrhoids
                    - secondly, getting babos for transit to oneself, and not to extreme partners, that is, neighbors at the border.

                    But how easily, gracefully it reveals the motivation of psheks in the national-govnosrache in neighboring territories, which is just marvelous, how did this simple way to replenish the state budget never appear in their heads before ?!
                    1. Mature naturalist
                      Mature naturalist 25 February 2014 02: 06
                      +2
                      Here's a call to action for the South-East and Crimea, it seems, as prepared (so far unofficially) at the highest level in Russia:
                      http://putnik1.livejournal.com/2760290.html

                      A couple of quotes so that there is no long text:

                      Friends in Ukraine! The current situation is terrible, but, like any crisis, it provides a chance. He is very real. But to use it, you need to forget about the defensive position. If you try to defend yourself passively, they will crush you.
                      ...
                      Given the subsidized nature of the western regions and their long-term ideological oppression by Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine, a region with a predominant Russian-speaking population as compensation for this oppression must become an autonomous republic New Russia as part of Ukraine, with its own anthem, coat of arms and flag, its national television channels, its national guard, and most importantly - the budget and tax system, and decide for themselves how much taxes they should transfer to the federal budget. It should be emphasized that such a solution would be the only way to avoid a split in the country, since the alternative would be to declare independence by these territories in order to avoid both ideological oppression and economic robbery. (Here you can also recall the motivations that Ukraine was once guided by when leaving the USSR.)
                      ...
                      Clearly understand: DO NOT HOPE FOR THE HELP OF RUSSIA.
                      This does not mean that she will by no means come to your aid. But you should not count on this help; even if it does, let it be a pleasant surprise. The worst thing now is to passively expect what Putin will do. Your fate is in your hands.
                      ...
                      Announce Creation Republic of Novorossia (for now as part of Ukraine, which must be emphasized) with the capital (at least temporarily) in Sevastopol in the Crimea and urge all other regions to join you. Form military units and help (you already have the strength) to shift the collaborationist leadership to begin with, at least in Kerch (you saw in the first video above what kind of leadership there is) and Simferopol.
                2. Kizhich
                  Kizhich 24 February 2014 19: 29
                  -1
                  Sledgehammer102: I fully support all your comments! ++++++ You are 100% right. I want to add:
                  1. We supported Yanyka, because all the same the East supported him, and as they say, the BROTHERS must be trusted !! You supported him !!! Why are you turning on the back now ???
                  2. As I have said and will repeat: Not only Yanyk, but all x ... Ukrainians are corrupt! Your Yanyk only showed it to the whole world! Then a message passed in some branch that the structures of the Janek squeezed the enterprise from the Russians, salaries fell, etc. .... Well, how should we respond ?????
                  3. Well, as a result, repay the debt, I propose to pick up the Crimea! If you want money - please give a PLEDGE!
              2. dr.star75
                dr.star75 24 February 2014 20: 19
                0
                Your comments are more logical than the author of the article.
              3. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch 24 February 2014 20: 28
                +1
                Quote: sledgehammer102
                and the Russian Federation for the third year has been a steady population growth, and in 2013 already due to natural growth and living standards.


                I will subscribe to many, but here I do not agree. Stable population growth due to fertility? And I would like to hear all the same-RUSSIAN population? And about the standard of living ... I can only judge by myself and my surroundings ... The peak was somewhere in 2005-2007.
              4. disa
                24 February 2014 20: 48
                0
                You have not seen the original article ... the word "Yanukovych" was not there ... this is a free interpretation of the editor. Conclusions, there have not even been any attempts to do ... first read ... this is a saying (Part one) .. there will be a fairy tale ahead .... Well, the conclusions, respectively.
              5. disa
                24 February 2014 21: 30
                +1
                Quote: sledgehammer102
                I don’t know what you wanted to say with your article, but I still did not understand the main conclusion. What do you propose doing ???

                Quote: disa
                You have not seen the original article ... the word "Yanukovych" was not there ... this is a free interpretation of the editor. Conclusions, there have not even been any attempts to do ... first read ... this is a saying (Part one) .. there will be a fairy tale ahead .... Well, the conclusions, respectively.

                The article dealt exclusively with GDP. I apologize for the unintentionally resulting discrepancy. On the question "What to do", in the sense of "What I would suggest", there will be a separate article. I live in Russia and chose GDP and questions to him naturally, and not to Yanukovych.
                Sincerely, D. Rechkov
            2. igor.borov775
              igor.borov775 24 February 2014 15: 56
              +3
              THE AUTHOR WRITTEN EVERYTHING CORRECTLY, DOES THE PEOPLE'S AGREEMENT NOT SUCH AS US NAME THAT IT WANTS TO HEAR THE PEOPLE IN AN ABSOLUTE MOST AND NO ONE KNOWS OTHER ARTICLES OF THE AGREEMENT THIS WAS ALL
              1. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 24 February 2014 16: 19
                +2
                Quote: igor.borov775
                THE AUTHOR WRITTEN EVERYTHING CORRECTLY, DOES THE PEOPLE'S AGREEMENT NOT SUCH AS US NAME THAT IT WANTS TO HEAR THE PEOPLE IN AN ABSOLUTE MOST AND NO ONE KNOWS OTHER ARTICLES OF THE AGREEMENT THIS WAS ALL


                A concrete example would be from the last 5 years, at least ...

                But the Ukrainians of the EU and the USA divorced as l * o * x * s
            3. RND
              RND 24 February 2014 16: 20
              +2
              Well said. "+"
              Especially about the point. Presumably, the danger lies in what you can get in your own? laughing
            4. samoletil18
              samoletil18 24 February 2014 16: 53
              +1
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              Author! Did you smoke?

              This is a summary of the article.
            5. BIC
              BIC 24 February 2014 19: 13
              0
              + + + + + + + + + +
            6. georg737577
              georg737577 24 February 2014 19: 13
              +2
              The author of the article did not "smoke" anything ... Reasonable and adequate article. The author is a plus.
              1. Kizhich
                Kizhich 24 February 2014 19: 45
                0
                Sorry by mistake, taking it back !!!!!
            7. disa
              24 February 2014 20: 42
              0
              The author of the article is me, sorry of course (press the disa button, please) ... and I prefer booze to "smoke", preferably vodka and preferably a glass at a time. From my point of view, Ukrainians do not get a headache, but a bloody meat grinder. Headache in Russia. Russians are being killed, insolently, and Moscow stands on the sidelines, and it is also going to pay for this banquet out of its own pocket, because the "new" government wants gas benefits and money that was promised to Yanukovych, although what do they have to do with it ???? These are bandits according to all the rules and all existing laws, but the government in Russia says that it will interact with any legitimate government ... just be aware ... with any, and the legitimate is known from what is made of, isn't it?
              1. Platov
                Platov 24 February 2014 22: 43
                0
                You want your children to lay their heads for those who always have a hut from the edge.
            8. predator.3
              predator.3 24 February 2014 21: 51
              +1
              People encouraged by the prospect of entry for a better life (without corruption, kickbacks, nepotism, bandit lawlessness, arbitrariness of officials, theft of the elite, etc.) for some reason goes out and begins to protest ...


              Since when do 15-20 year old thugs represent the people, and where is the "better life" on planet Earth, it's good where we are not, or the author thinks that Europeans live like in the island of Utopia or in the "city of the sun" of Campanella, or how said O. Bender "Abroad will help us!" laughing
          2. 222222
            222222 24 February 2014 13: 37
            +1
            Sergey Razumovsky. CASCADE: peacekeeping. 23.02.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL0PGq7M-Lk
          3. Cherdak
            Cherdak 24 February 2014 14: 46
            +3
            Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
            and if you put things in order in Ukraine, I'm sorry, they’ll dare to go to Russia.



            Sorry, but not in time ...
            1. Cherdak
              Cherdak 24 February 2014 16: 47
              +10
              And here are the first "merchants" before the nezalezhnaya: Poland said it no longer considers Viktor Yanukovych the President of Ukraine and is convinced that he lost power as a result of a forced and justified coup.

              "The European Union recognizes the decision of the Verkhovna Rada to remove President Viktor Yanukovych from power," said Olivier Bailly, a representative of the European Commission.

              And this is a new word in European politics: justified coup repeat

              Brussels - a city of contrasts (C)
              1. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch 24 February 2014 20: 54
                +5
                Quote: Cherdak
                Brussels - a city of contrasts


                ... and buggers ..
                1. Cherdak
                  Cherdak 24 February 2014 21: 01
                  +4
                  Quote: Semyon Semyonich
                  Brussels is a city of contrasts ... and buggers ..


                  The head of the European Parliament’s Foreign Relations Committee, Elmar Brock, said that money allegedly stolen by Yanukovych from the state and deposited in EU bank accounts will be returned to Ukraine.
                  "Ukraine will be returned the funds that Yanukovych stole. That is, those that are on the accounts of European banks, as well as funds of other officials," Brock said. Also, the European official said that if Yanukovych tries to escape to Europe, he will be detained there, after which he will be handed over to Ukraine.


                  Interestingly, the former Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya Libya Have you received your money?

                  August 26, 2011. In foreign bank accounts, $ 130 billion belonging to Libya was frozen. Gaddafi used to manage all this money.

                  It seems that the money Yanukovych & son and not sold from the PR will go to cover "European solidarity to the Maidan" sad
            2. olegkrava
              olegkrava 24 February 2014 18: 46
              0
              worked 2 years with a penny-mouth
          4. vostok68
            vostok68 24 February 2014 15: 03
            +3
            They will come to us - they will be crap anyway, do not hesitate, look at the history!
          5. Reasonable, 2,3
            Reasonable, 2,3 24 February 2014 15: 05
            +5
            Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
            then in half a year or a year it will also happen in Russia, only in a much more bloody form. You will have Western saboteurs, and Arab militants, and Ukrainian fascists who cannot be distinguished from Russian people, and mercenaries from private security companies, and the collapse of the country ....

            Yes, what are you saying? We won’t have this. For a reason: Russia is not Ukraine. Whoever gets into power will get such lyuley that he will choke with Aleksey’s pen.
          6. CALL.
            CALL. 24 February 2014 15: 27
            +1
            Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
            it's time to understand that there is a war going on, and the front line is now passing through Ukraine. if the enemy captures Ukraine, if Ukraine surrenders, the front line will move further east, to Russia. This must not be allowed!

            This is understood by most site visitors.
            Question: - Do our statesmen (NOT) understand this ?!
            1. CALL.
              CALL. 24 February 2014 16: 12
              +2
              Quote: Z.O.V.
              Question: - Do our statesmen (NOT) understand this ?!


              (NOT) our statesmen
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 24 February 2014 22: 50
                0
                Quote: Z.O.V.
                Why Russia surrendered Libya.

                And why should Russia protect Libya?
          7. GSH-18
            GSH-18 24 February 2014 15: 36
            +14
            Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
            in half a year or a year it will also happen in Russia, only in a much more bloody form

            laughing I remember the same words were uttered by your Julia, the year that way in 2003-2004!
            Dear, please do not compare He with your finger, where is your right now and where is the RUSSIAN FEDERATION now! We held the Winter Olympic Games in Sochi at EXCELLENT, and during this time you ruined your own country!

            Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
            it's time to understand that there is a war going on, and the front line is now passing through Ukraine. if the enemy captures Ukraine, if Ukraine surrenders, the front line will move further east, to Russia. This must not be allowed!

            Before that they didn’t allow it, and now even more so! Don’t worry about us. RF is not to blame! The West had a 90s chance, but they snapped it. Now it’s our turn to pose them in a pose. The Olympics in Sochi, beautifully and elegantly, billions of dollars spent by the West on disinfecting and pouring mud on the Russian Federation, were simply thrown down the drain. GLORY TO RUSSIA! We will do everything! It always has been, is and will be hi
            1. morpex
              morpex 24 February 2014 19: 10
              0
              Quote: GSH-18
              Dear, please do not compare He with a finger with

              I agree. With one caveat. You have gas and oil. Take it and it will be the same Xe as in Ukraine. laughing But you, if you had a less thieving elite, could live at least two, three times better than now.
              And for the Olympics you have a separate respect! Bravo! I have not seen such beauty at any Olympics!
              1. GSH-18
                GSH-18 24 February 2014 19: 40
                +3
                Quote: morpex
                I agree. With one caveat. You have gas and oil. Take it and it will be the same Xe as in Ukraine. laughing

                No longer! It would really be 5-6 years ago. Our country has risen from its knees, industry is working and developing, the state is protecting national interests and its citizens. Yes, the dependence on the sale of energy resources is still high, but the tendency to move away from it is very noticeable; own processing is gaining momentum. Yes, we have energy resources, and why we should not sell them, because there are plenty of people who want to buy!
                Quote: morpex
                But you, if you had a less thieving elite, could live at least two, three times better than now.

                Yes, and so we feel pretty good. And we have someone to do with the theft. What we wish you. In general, news from Ukraine looks very alarming. All the same, Ukrainians for Russians are not strangers.
                Quote: morpex
                And for the Olympics you have a separate respect! Bravo! I have not seen such beauty at any Olympics!

                I agree with you, I happened to be personally present at some competitions (for example, the Laura ski complex on February 16th biathlon).
                1. morpex
                  morpex 24 February 2014 19: 58
                  -4
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  Yes, we have energy resources, and why we should not sell them, because there are plenty of people who want to buy!

                  But who is against it? I wish you a speedy departure, or a transition from a raw materials appendage to a country with the most developed economy. For this, you have everything. But! We have the same mentality along the way. A thief sits on a thief, chases a thief. Remember?

                  Quote: GSH-18
                  All the same, Ukrainians are not strangers to Russians.

                  + to you. That's only recently that something has gone wrong. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll say maybe harshly, but I’ll say what I think.
                  Do you really think that the calls to shoot, disperse, crush the Maidan will be forgotten? I understand that you are sure that there are only Bandera people - you and yourself are spoken about on blogs and on TV, and to prove that it is not so senseless but in a similar way, you will forever push Ukraine away from you. Of course, this does not apply to all Russians, but unfortunately to a huge part of them.
                  Because the truth is certain that Ukrainians (citizens of Ukraine) and Russians (citizens of Russia) are fraternal peoples.
                  And it is not Protestants who can break the ties between Russia and Ukraine, but you and only you - with malice, hatred and lies, in which you believe and spread.
                  On the Maidan there are different ones - there are murderers, Nazis, the majority are just people who got the thieves' power.
                  You are not even trying to figure it out, but no matter how it ends there, you are now pushing Ukraine away from you forever - or for a very long time.
                  1. GSH-18
                    GSH-18 24 February 2014 20: 48
                    +3
                    Quote: morpex
                    Do you really think that the calls to shoot, disperse, crush the Maidan will be forgotten? I understand that you are sure that there are Bandera people there alone - you and the people in your blogs and on TV will explain it to you and prove that it’s not so pointless but similarly you will forever push Ukraine away from you

                    Calls to disperse and shoot were related to ye..m and Bendera with the Nazis! You shouldn't think that Russian television gives information about Ukraine in a perverted way, and that Russians are not thinking about everything with their heads, and they are hawking all Ukrainians entirely. It is clear how this operation called Euromaidan was developed and launched by the Western "friends of Ukraine". Some of the Maydauns ended up on the square for money, others are radical elements, the militants are pursuing their goals. The bulk of the early Maidan protesters, on the one hand, seeing nothing good and future in the policies of your ruling elite, and on the other hand, believing the sweet promises of the European commissioners (with the silence of negative moments for the people), really believed in their innocence. And then there was an escalation, as a result of which unarmed Berkutovites died, after which everyone realized that the rally was over and an armed confrontation began, the purpose of which was to overthrow the legitimate government.
                    The overthrow of legitimate state power is called a coup. In the name of whatever it leaks, and whatever good intentions are used, it is a crime against the state. In all cases, ordinary people suffer — do you need this? Power needs reform — revolution is the worst of them! Are you still sure that Europe needs you ?? belay
                    1. morpex
                      morpex 25 February 2014 00: 46
                      -1
                      You Gesha and Vitaly who spoke below.
                      Briefly the results of what are the requirements of the Maidan for the new policy of Ukraine:
                      Attention "bandera-fascist conditions of unbearable life":

                      - Politicians are now under the constant control of auto-maidan. Business and politics are incompatible and the state of politicians will be carefully monitored. And now the work of officials is under control, to what extent they fulfill their own promises. now, no cuts, theft of the budget and all budget money goes as intended
                      - no tuples for politicians, if you are late, there is a metro
                      - lustration of politicians, renewal of politicians.
                      - ban on closing clinics and hospitals
                      - replace all judges who are corrupt.
                      - transparent and fair elections
                      - respect for all people and for the language they speak. (Kisilev, of course, tells a different story, but then take))
                      - open and thorough investigation of crimes against people
                      - Already now there are calls everywhere that from now on, nickname will not give bribes! And those who give, they also have the blood of those killed on the Maidan
                      This is briefly and maybe missed something. And now answer honestly to yourself, would you like the same conditions for politicians in Russia?
                      What did we fight with?
                      It is no secret that Yanukovych and his gang openly stole state money. In the house, Yanukovych found a lot of documents that terrify the scale of theft and crimes of him and his entourage.
                      Our police have become a criminal structure and people in Ukraine know that all drugs belong to them, the whole gangster structure is under them. Our golden eagle could just beat any person on the street and you won’t do anything. Courts have long ceased to judge, they only determined who would give what. But in prison many find themselves without fault, because statistics are necessary. This is what I personally know.
                      Recently, in Zaporozhye, police officers beat an orphan, a graduate of an orphanage, to death. I can tell a lot, these are not just words, this is our real life.
                      Regionals strangled all medium business. Only someone begins to do something, the Donetsk people come and wring out (speaking their language).
                      And now there was a struggle with this power. And this brutal power, along with bandits in uniform, killed people. And you praised it !!! ((Realizing that these are bandits!
                      And further. You shout that the price for freedom is too high, a couple of houses burned and a heavenly hundred. I agree, this is a very expensive price! But our system of power of Yanukovych killed many more people !!! constantly!
                      1. SF93
                        SF93 25 February 2014 02: 05
                        +1
                        All this is "bead throwing". Any power, except for the people, will sooner or later become sold and bought. Your Yulia is not a gift either, she will “grow fat” will forget her promises, her henchmen-bureaucrats will also pretend to care for the people, filling their belly and pockets, cursing Russia to please their new friends from the West, blaming Russia for all their troubles that have been, is and will be in the future. As a member of the European Union, Ukraine will supply its beauties to European brothels, and cannon fodder for local conflicts involving NATO, because. Europe does not need any other work from Ukraine. They do not need products from Ukraine. The industry will be sold for debts to the same Western benefactors. Just take these Maidan noodles off your ears otherwise, saying goodbye to independence, Ukraine will become another colony for the star-striped imperialists.
                      2. GSH-18
                        GSH-18 25 February 2014 09: 35
                        0
                        Quote: morpex
                        Now answer honestly to yourself, would you like the same conditions for politicians in Russia?

                        Many of you have been working with us for a long time! And most importantly, without any revolutions and no one needs the Maidan.
                        Quote: morpex
                        It is no secret that Yanukovych and his gang openly stole state money.

                        Absolutely not surprising. Did you just find out? Russia gave money for the Ukrainian people, for you. And your top put them on their personal accounts.
                        Quote: morpex
                        I can tell a lot, these are not just words, this is our real life.

                        And how did you allow all this, and why are everyone still silent and indulging ?? Was everything okay?
                        Quote: morpex
                        And you praised it !!! ((

                        God forbid, the Russians can not praise the bandits. They themselves suffered in the 90s, until the arrival of Putin, and while they fought with them. Russia against revolutions is the main message. Your revolution is a consequence of your long political connivance. And now, under specious slogans, you want to change everything drastically, it won’t work, nobody has succeeded. There are still many surprises waiting for you, the long decline in the economy, the impoverishment of the population, the rise of extremist sentiments, the decline in world image and credit rating. Possible disintegration into several parts. Naturally, your media is fooling your head to create confidence in the correctness of the collapse of the state (in fact!). In eastern Ukraine, the local population has already changed leadership and raised Russian flags over their cities. I want to say right away that the integrity of Ukraine is important for Russia. However, a country without power is a phantom; therefore, the population justifiably seeks under the wing of a strong brother.
                        Quote: morpex
                        And further. You shout that the price for freedom is too high, a couple of houses burned and a heavenly hundred. I agree, this is a very expensive price! But our system of power of Yanukovych killed many more people !!! constantly!

                        Independence gathered because it was not frailly financed by the West. Without this, you would continue to be happy with everything. And now you will be ripped off for anyone as much as you want and as you want-revolution-muddy water. And only Russia will help you, as before, (knowing full well that the loan is non-repayable). And you can continue to continue to fault the only, truly fraternal country ..
                      3. morpex
                        morpex 25 February 2014 20: 12
                        -1
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Many of you have been working with us for a long time!
                        Very happy for you. Honestly ...
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Absolutely not surprising. Did you just find out? Russia gave money for the Ukrainian people, for you. And your top put them on their personal accounts.

                        I thought so too. Naive .. Actually, Putin gave grandmas exactly
                        to support the regime of Yanukovych. Do you think he is so naive and did not know where it really is and to whom it is loot?

                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Russia against revolutions is the main message. Your revolution is a consequence of your long political

                        Quote: GSH-18

                        And how did you allow all this, and why are everyone still silent and indulging ?? Everything was fine

                        How can I understand you? I had to continue to endure like a flock of sheep and wait for that parody that the "elections" on which Janek and his gang would have won through falsifications and deception? Or should the revolution have been done earlier?

                        Quote: GSH-18
                        I want to say right away that the integrity of Ukraine is important for Russia.

                        Definitely! For it is not only her desire but also her duty! Let me explain. The 204 agreement signed in Budapest, remember? Its essence is that, in return for Ukraine’s refusal of MP weapons (nuclear, chemical, bacteriological), the United States, England, and Russia have committed themselves to protect Ukraine from any encroachment on its territorial integrity. Foreign troops can only be brought into its territory with the permission of the UN Security Council.
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        The Maidan gathered because it was not weakly funded by the West. Without this, you would continue to be happy with everything.

                        You are mistaken. Maidan gathered spontaneously. And if it were not for the utter nonsense of this scumbag Yanekakot who had organized a massacre, he would, having let off steam, resolved by himself. But this beating served as the last straw. And then these three woodpeckers came to the Maidan called the opposition.
                      4. Panikovsky
                        Panikovsky 25 February 2014 20: 40
                        +1
                        Yes, only the integrity of Ukraine will not be. there is none and is not foreseen. some will go west, others to Russia. and your Maidan very quickly come to naught. for some time criminals with weapons will hang out, then when they have nothing to eat, they will disappear. and there life will show.
                      5. morpex
                        morpex 25 February 2014 21: 15
                        0
                        Quote: Panikovsky
                        your maidan very quickly come to naught. some time criminals with weapons will hang out,

                        You repeat the words of this man! And by the way, he was recognized as a disinfectant in Russia. Officially, note.
                        The public collegium on complaints about the press recognized the transfer of Dmitry Kisilev about the Maidan as direct misinformation.

                        The decision states that the Collegium considers it reasonable to accuse the applicant of the author and host of the Vesti Nedeli program of deliberately violating the chronological order of the events of November 30 - December 1, 2013. Considering a week as a sufficient time for the preparation of a reliable and conscientious material that does not contain a false answer to the essential question of which side of the confrontation first used force, the Collegium considers the fact that "the violent dispersal of the peaceful protest on the Independence Square, which took place on November 30 , in the program of December 8 was "presented as a consequence of the actions of provocateurs during the protest action near the presidential administration, which, in fact, took place on December 1," disinformation addressed to the Russian TV viewer, Russian public opinion.
                        Thus, the board recognized Kisilev disinfectant.
              2. Povit
                Povit 24 February 2014 23: 32
                +4
                You’re there on the Maidan, with Molotov’s stakes, stones and cocktails, so vulnerable, tremulous, resentful, don’t say a word, take offense. We here in Russia take the word hero in a completely different way, though, betrayal, white black. If you Stand on the Maidan with Bendera, you are one of them. It is necessary to carefully choose associates. Your truth is covered with a thick layer of smoke and turned black. The first thing your government does is to recruit new employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs from those who killed the old ones, and everything will be as before. Only now have you completely lost your sovereignty.
          8. Panikovsky
            Panikovsky 24 February 2014 19: 49
            +2
            Quote: morpex
            Quote: GSH-18
            Dear, please do not compare He with a finger with

            I agree. With one caveat. You have gas and oil. Take it and it will be the same Xe as in Ukraine. laughing But you, if you had a less thieving elite, could live at least two, three times better than now.
            And for the Olympics you have a separate respect! Bravo! I have not seen such beauty at any Olympics!

            why, in fact, should gas and oil be removed? Sorry, this is Madame Alekseeva and old Albright who say that Russia has too much to take and share from it. Yes, only x .. them and you in your pocket. Russia, Russian, and you watch TV.
            1. morpex
              morpex 24 February 2014 20: 11
              -3
              Quote: Panikovsky
              and why, in fact, should gas and oil be removed?

              You think about what is written when you read, and do not take everything literally.
              Quote: Panikovsky
              select and share. yes only x .. them and you in your pocket. Russia-Russian, and you watch TV.

              ??? I pay for everything honestly. So, your remark is not for me. And you, I look naive uncle. Do you own Gazprom shares?
          9. equity
            equity 24 February 2014 19: 59
            -1
            morpex (1) UA
            quote: And here you, if you had a less thieving elite, could live at least two, three times better than now.

            Totally agree with you! yes
          10. viktorR
            viktorR 24 February 2014 20: 35
            +5
            Oil is not the point, although it facilitated the process. All the same, the matter is probably in Putin, no matter how trite it was read).
            1. GSH-18
              GSH-18 24 February 2014 20: 58
              +5
              Quote: viktorR
              All the same, the matter is probably in Putin, no matter how trite it was read).

              I will say more, this is not at all trite. A strong president is a strong country. This is an axiom. Putin is a strong president. I am proud that we have such a decisive and sensible leader of the country!
          11. Setrac
            Setrac 24 February 2014 22: 52
            +3
            Quote: morpex
            You have gas and oil.

            Go to the Russian Federation, it will be your oil and gas. Why was it separated from oil and gas? But Nigeria also has oil and gas, but somehow they are far from Russia somehow.
      2. CTEPX
        CTEPX 24 February 2014 16: 00
        +8
        Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
        You will have Western saboteurs, and Arab militants, and Ukrainian fascists, which cannot be distinguished from Russian people, and mercenaries from private security companies

        Exactly! They are already there.
        We have only one direct path - the maximum and broadest activation of the military-patriotic education of the Russian population. ERW implies not only loyalty to the Fatherland, but also the willingness and ability to defend it.
      3. olviko
        olviko 24 February 2014 16: 21
        0
        "and if we put things in order in Ukraine"

        If it's not a secret, how do you imagine this, in real life? Shoot and transplant the population of several western regions?
        1. olegkrava
          olegkrava 24 February 2014 18: 56
          +1
          There is no secret. It is necessary to dislodge only Yatsenyuk, the tynebok, and the opposite political pr --- tutka Klitschko, with a control shot from the ACS in the ass. What would the gut flew into the opuzitsionarov and WORLD WORLDWIDE.
          1. O_RUS
            O_RUS 24 February 2014 21: 16
            +1
            Quote: olegkrava
            There is no secret. It is necessary to knock out only Yatsenyuk, a drawbar


            And tell me - are you able to name all the presidents of Ukraine since the moment of separation from the USSR? F & O nationality and place of birth, primary occupation until the presidency.
      4. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 24 February 2014 20: 06
        +2
        Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
        in half a year or a year it will also happen in Russia, only in a much more bloody form.


        This, of course, is exaggerated. Still, one does not need to compare the situation in Ukraine with the situation in Russia:
        1. Most importantly, most of us support Putin.
        2. Putin, not Yanukovych. (Wetland strangled so competently that the language is still in .ope)
        3. Our special services are able to distinguish Bandera's crooked face from "Russian people"
        4. And most importantly, we are for the preservation of the country, and not for the collapse ...

        But power must be thoughtful. Is everything calm in the Danish kingdom ???
      5. Andrey44
        Andrey44 24 February 2014 23: 27
        +1
        We have a national leader, ours are not afraid to shoot from tanks at the "White House", they are not afraid to violently and in time to disperse and plant, they are not afraid of blood in suppressing the mutinies. This will not work for us.
        And you have one Steel Golden Eagle, framed and sold by all. Most likely, the southeast will tail up its tail tomorrow and continue to feed the Westerners and a bunch of new owners. We are still different.
        Sorry friend, all this is sad ...
    2. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 24 February 2014 13: 26
      +13
      .A criminal case has been launched against Yanukovych and he is wanted.

      It is simply amazing how deceptive appearance can be. Outwardly imposing, brutal, courageous, but inside a worthless man, a dummy, or, as the unforgettable Panikovsky would say: "A pitiful, insignificant person."
      1. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 24 February 2014 13: 36
        +3
        Quote: Sh.O.K.

        It is simply amazing how deceptive appearance can be. Outwardly imposing, brutal, courageous, but inside a worthless man, a dummy, or, as the unforgettable Panikovsky would say: "A pitiful, insignificant person."

        Dictators and thieves are all like that and he is no exception.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 24 February 2014 14: 28
          +4
          Quote: Vovka Levka
          Dictators and thieves are all like that and he is no exception.

          Notice how quickly most of the Regionals in the Rada were repainted, "good" power, like chameleons. These are the first to pay attention to. You cannot cooperate with such.
        2. olegkrava
          olegkrava 24 February 2014 18: 58
          +2
          Your untruth. Gaddafi, although a dictator, did everything for his country.
      2. Cherdak
        Cherdak 24 February 2014 15: 48
        +3
        Quote: Sh.O.K.
        Panikovsky: "A miserable, insignificant person."


        But here another quote is more appropriate: "Panikovsky will sell and buy you all, and sell again, but at a higher price!"

        Just the quintessence of Ukrainian character.

        And how strongly the "pro-Russian" Vitya began:
        1. SHOCK.
          SHOCK. 24 February 2014 16: 05
          +2
          Quote: Cherdak
          And how strongly the "pro-Russian" Vitya began:

          And I think that's how it ends.
        2. anarh
          anarh 24 February 2014 16: 18
          +2
          Quote: Cherdak
          But here another quote is more appropriate: "Panikovsky will sell and buy you all, and will sell again, but at a higher price!"

          Just the quintessence of Ukrainian character.

          That yes-in Ukrainophobia.
          And about the Ukrainian character in N.S. Leskov read.
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 24 February 2014 16: 31
        +4
        Quote: Sh.O.K.
        It is simply amazing how deceptive appearance can be. Outwardly imposing, brutal, courageous, but inside a worthless man, a dummy, or, as the unforgettable Panikovsky would say: "A pitiful, insignificant person."

        The point is different - "Western friends" threatened to freeze accounts with "overpriced". And Yanuca immediately became malleable like guano. I handed over to the police, the people and Ukraine for guarantees to leave the loot alone and to provide its owner with a residence permit lol
    3. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 24 February 2014 13: 35
      +18
      Oh, I now envy the citizens of Ukraine, who have a Sevastopol registration. Apparently, only they have a chance to isolate themselves from maydanutyh Bandera. The rest were strong only in words: (
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 24 February 2014 16: 35
        +1
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Apparently, only they have a chance to isolate themselves from the maydanut Bandera. The rest were strong only in words :(

        This is really sad.
    4. Army1
      Army1 24 February 2014 19: 15
      +1
      Yanyk, betrayed both the people and the Golden Eagle and dumped. Ivan_Ivanov is right, we have incomprehensible migrants who, under the guise of janitors, are militants, and all sorts of nationalist movements against illegal immigrants and other come in large numbers, who are afraid that they will unite against the ordinary Russian people at the time of X. It is necessary to crush this scum now, and to clear out the whole Maidan. I hope the GDP will not fail. And quickly, until all Romania and Turkey began to show off.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 24 February 2014 12: 54
    +1
    2056
    http://3mv.ru/_pu Псковская дивизия мобилизована для возможного отправления в Киев.

    “There hasn’t been an order yet, but our paratroopers are on alert and warned of a possible departure to Kiev,” a source in military circles told Komsomolskaya Pravda.

    According to some reports, one plane with the Pskov military has already been sent to the capital of Ukraine, but it is not specified which representatives of which troops left. request the information is not confirmed in any way ... perhaps disinformation, and perhaps the reaction is being studied.
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 24 February 2014 13: 36
      +5
      Quote: Andrew Y.

      “There hasn’t been an order yet, but our paratroopers are on alert and warned of a possible departure to Kiev,” a source in military circles told Komsomolskaya Pravda.

      Amazed, someone said something to someone, a source in the military districts, a cleaning lady or something?
      the information is not confirmed in any way ... perhaps disinformation, and perhaps the reaction is being studied.

      Then what to print, hope for a sensation? Yes, any normal person, having read this nonsense, will spit and say - he’s a halfwit. I’m fucking just to write.
      1. Bepdukt
        Bepdukt 24 February 2014 15: 09
        +5
        Well, I look and you too just to write.
    2. morpex
      morpex 24 February 2014 19: 19
      +1
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      2056
      http://3mv.ru/_pu Псковская дивизия мобилизована для возможного отправления в Киев.

      “There hasn’t been an order yet, but our paratroopers are on alert and warned of a possible departure to Kiev,” a source in military circles told Komsomolskaya Pravda.

      According to some reports, one plane with the Pskov military has already been sent to the capital of Ukraine, but it is not specified which representatives of which troops left. request the information is not confirmed in any way ... perhaps disinformation, and perhaps the reaction is being studied.

      Mdya ... Is this not the source that reported a month ago about the landing of the American marines in Lviv? wassat
  3. siberalt
    siberalt 24 February 2014 13: 08
    +19
    Avakov is at great risk with his return from Crimea. And soon such a burner for Kiev cutlets may happen. So they will be "hotter". laughing Shikoko, shikoko owes us Kiev for gas?
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/887/zwqo332.jpg
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 24 February 2014 20: 31
      +2
      This is still too optimistic, there are a lot of matches! Do you know if there are "match" factories in Ukraine?
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  5. ele1285
    ele1285 24 February 2014 13: 39
    +6
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    It will be hot

    In the process of recording violations of human rights, the Commission draws up a list of officials involved in repressions against the Ukrainian people. At this stage, 25 people are already included in such a list of officials, among which:
    Viktor Yanukovych - President of Ukraine
    Andriy Klyuyev - head of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine, ex-secretary of the NSDC
    Sergey Arbuzov - Acting Prime Minister of Ukraine
    Vitaliy Zakharchenko - ex-Minister of Internal Affairs
    Victor Pshonka - ex-Prosecutor General of Ukraine
    Andrey Portnov - First Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine
    Elena Lukash - acting Minister of Justice of Ukraine
    Yuri Boyko - acting Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine
    Leonid Kozhara - acting Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine
    Volodymyr Rybak - former chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine
    Mykola Azarov - ex-Prime Minister of Ukraine
    Alexander Popov - ex-head of Kyiv City State Administration
    Vladimir Sivkovich - Deputy Secretary of the NSDC
    Valery Koryak - Head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in Kiev
    Petr Fedchuk - Deputy Head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in Kiev
    Gennady Kernes - mayor of Kharkov
    Mikhail Dobkin - Chairman of the Kharkov Regional State Administration
    Vladimir Konstantinov - Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Crimea.
    It's not hot, it's a scribe
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 24 February 2014 16: 21
      +2
      ele1285 (2)
      Where are the banderlogs? Come on the list too. Together with Yanek in court.
      1. SF93
        SF93 25 February 2014 02: 23
        +1
        Well, they are a hero, victims of the totalitarian regime, so to speak. Victims of the bloodthirsty hands of the "Golden Eagle" ... When this list ends, these maydanuty digradators will start to drive each other away from the western feeding trough, or even topple each other.
    2. morpex
      morpex 24 February 2014 19: 27
      +3
      Quote: ele1285
      It's not hot, it's a scribe

      It seems to me that half of this list will go missing, and the other half will commit suicide in two or three shots at the temple. wassat They can talk too much. And so, there is no person, no problem. Precedents in 2004 have already been ...
  6. igor.borov775
    igor.borov775 24 February 2014 15: 51
    -1
    Nothing will happen BE SURE THAT WE shake rag WHAT everything fell apart, remember once and no split is not the first who it will say a dead man without trial HERE Try Be sure countries are united all this fuss EXPRESSLY REMINDS bargaining, bargaining those who do not have time to TO TRAIN oligarchs made their choice And they dictate to grow supports all these protest movements unequivocally, and likely have an influence to calm him down, NOW SEE CLEARLY WHAT THE PARTY THERE AND HERE WE hAVE THEY exact copy of each other, and the slogan MONEY DECIDES STILL NOBODY CANCELED
  7. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 24 February 2014 19: 52
    0
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    Today Avakov went to the Crimea, this is the one that the Right Sector includes in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. It will be hot! wassat


    There and bury it ...
  • Borz
    Borz 24 February 2014 12: 20
    +19
    Yulia’s premiership is useless, her goal is a presidential chair. And there will be bickering, do not go to a fortuneteller!
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 24 February 2014 14: 56
      -1
      Quote: Borz
      Yulia’s premiership is useless, her goal is the presidential chair.

      The main thing is that, having crushed power under itself, it and laws will begin to be adopted under itself. Like Putin, he will lead his team from his grefs, curls and chubais, and as a cunning creature (he doesn’t turn his tongue to call a woman) he will not allow anyone and remember close to power how it usually ends. This creature, unlike the previous ones, needs power for the sake of power itself and to steal is not a goal but a means.
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 24 February 2014 18: 14
        -2
        It’s interesting that you don’t like the essence of what was written, or you were offended by Kudrin, Gref, and especially by Chubais, Putin’s faithful ally, according to him. The hunchbacked order of St. Andrew the First-Called annoys you, the awards to the chubastom too, and at the same time, Putin is still a saint. Replace it there is no one where can they get because the Russian land has become impoverished in your opinion.
        Or maybe you think that death with a scythe will bring peace to Ukraine? Rather, you don’t want to think, or you can’t just reap the burl, like it, dislike it, your likes.
    2. CALL.
      CALL. 24 February 2014 15: 38
      +4
      Quote: Borz
      Yulia’s premiership is useless, her goal is a presidential chair. And there will be bickering, do not go to a fortuneteller!

      Julia, just released, immediately ran to express lackey respect to her master, the American ambassador
      1. olegkrava
        olegkrava 24 February 2014 19: 06
        +2
        Vo In this photo she left him.
    3. Gecko
      Gecko 24 February 2014 17: 44
      +1
      After the return of the 2004 constitution, the president in Ukraine has only representative functions, and it is the prime minister who steers it ...
    4. 222222
      222222 24 February 2014 18: 48
      0
      From "The Tale of the Fisherman and the Fish" (1835) by A.S. Pushkin.
      The goldfish fulfilled all the whims of an envious, greedy old woman: she gave her a new trough to replace the broken one, then a new hut, turned the old woman first into a noblewoman, then into a queen; but when the old woman wanted to be the "mistress of the sea," the fish got angry; "the old man returned to the old woman -
      Look: there is a dugout in front of him again; On the threshold sits his old woman, And in front of her is a broken trough. "....
    5. olegkrava
      olegkrava 24 February 2014 19: 03
      0
      Now the presidency, and then the horse with the machine.
    6. morpex
      morpex 24 February 2014 19: 31
      +1
      Quote: Borz
      Yulia’s premiership is useless, her goal is a presidential chair. And there will be bickering, do not go to a fortuneteller!

      This is unlikely. First, she said that she would not go to the polls and refused the premiership, and secondly, she did not accept the Maidan ..
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 24 February 2014 12: 36
    +35
    Question and answer, the radicals lost in Ukraine, the first that allowed bloodshed, the second who really took power, the radicals have neither money nor power, they are now raising it, but some time will pass and the Maidan needs to be released, but how to free it means as in France, during the French Revolution, you will be gradually forgotten by the radicals, and then called to account for the blood and defended one by one, the opposition, in the face of a handful of rats, you are not needed, they have already eaten a fat, fattened rat, they will eat you too , Europe, America, you also do not need, you created one voo business and must leave. If you are thinking about going south and east, then this is a civil war in which a hackneyed western Ukraine will simply lose, and Russia will not allow a massacre either. Your fat sacks won, and not the people of Ukraine, and if you do not understand this, then you are fools. Yes, it’s a call, a call to our highest authority, surrounded by snubbed oligarchs and corrupt officials stunned by the authorities, but there is something to think about - EVERYTHING.
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 24 February 2014 12: 51
      +16
      I do not understand why Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is called the GDP in the title. What is the humiliation of the head of state? The author wrote his unknown surname in full, apparently very proud of himself.
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        1. russia_vp
          russia_vp 24 February 2014 13: 51
          +6
          Come on, I live in Russia, in Novosibirsk, I have a dad :) I personally don’t take offense when my mother calls me a hohl sometimes :) Ukrainians were nicknamed Ukrainians for a forelock on their heads. In sansrit it is shikha. Its Vaishnavas always had. So this is an indication of belonging to the Vedic culture
          1. anarh
            anarh 24 February 2014 14: 01
            -10%
            Quote: russia_vp
            I personally don’t take offense when my mother calls me a hohl sometimes :) If you are, why be ashamed of something? It's okay, it's not abusive

            Whether this is abusive towards you is up to you to decide.
            My mother is Russian, but she never (even jokingly) called me or my brother or father xxllamm.
            This is the first.
            The second one. The word x about x about l is prohibited for use on the site. See the rules.
            The third. I am Ukrainian. And do not be shy about it.
            I do not understand fellow tribesmen who consider themselves to be hoax.
            My father had his own version. He said: Kh okhl are those who have forgotten their language, their ancestors and Ukraine.
            TREE WITHOUT ROOTS - FIREWOOD FOR ANOTHER'S FIREPLACE.
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                1. morpex
                  morpex 24 February 2014 19: 40
                  +2
                  Quote: Sandov
                  Gogol, Shevchenko, all our common writers.

                  But this is right! I am Ukrainian, but let Lermontov and Shchevchenko equally love me! For they are our poets.
            2. nemec55
              nemec55 24 February 2014 15: 43
              +5
              The word x about x about l is prohibited for use on the site

              Someone came up with these rules. For me it’s not a curse, I call my son-in-law a bulbash and so what? His grandfather was at war and I respect them very much for that. in view of such bestial behavior of the Germans during the Second World War, to prohibit writing German and only fascist. Demagogy, of course, but you can insult a person with a good word. My friend was (Kazakh) Askar, and so the word Askar couldn’t be pronounced with him. Kho.khly and Bulbashi and I were not too old, we lived in the same state of the USSR, built and were proud of it and lived in perfect harmony, but it is necessary to ban politicians who constantly seek their benefits by connecting or destroying states. When it is beneficial for them.
            3. Sandov
              Sandov 24 February 2014 16: 26
              -1
              Quote: anarh
              Whether this is abusive towards you is up to you to decide.
              My mother is Russian, but she never (even jokingly) called me or my brother or father xxllamm.
              This is the first.
              The second one. The word x about x about l is prohibited for use on the site. See the rules.
              The third. I am Ukrainian. And do not be shy about it.
              I do not understand fellow tribesmen who consider themselves to be hoax.
              My father had his own version. He said: Kh okhl are those who have forgotten their language, their ancestors and Ukraine.
              TREE WITHOUT ROOTS - FIREWOOD FOR ANOTHER'S FIREPLACE.

              In my opinion, those who are selling our common homeland to banderlogs are mine.
            4. IIIIvanov
              IIIIvanov 24 February 2014 18: 24
              +3
              Forced to note that you and your dad know the story poorly. I advise you to read such a writer and publicist as Andrei Vajra (I’m sorry, I could distort the name, I don’t intend to). It will help, especially for those who are looking for such a nationality as Ukrainians in history. Well, if you don’t want to read, I suggest a quiz: on whose behalf did Bogdan Khmelnitsky write letters about unification in Moscow, in what language did Gogol and Taras Shevchenko write, and when were the Russians baptized in Kiev, where were the Ukrainians hiding? In the same series - with whom Western monarchs corresponded in Kiev in the 9-10th century AD, whether they knew - whether mentions about Ukrainians were preserved in the chronicles. As soon as you find the answers, the illusions of Ukrainian nationality will disappear.
            5. Povit
              Povit 25 February 2014 00: 05
              0
              Nationality is invented, the language - also podparamulili, what are you proud of? Look at the history, everywhere Russia, Russian principalities and not any ukrov. This is where the dog is buried. You have no history if you are not Rusich. Ukraine is a tree without roots. That is why you have such a hatred of Russia and its history.
              1. anarh
                anarh 25 February 2014 02: 14
                0
                Quote: Povit
                Nationality is invented, the language - also podparamulili, what are you proud of? Look at the history, everywhere Russia, Russian principalities and not any ukrov. This is where the dog is buried. You have no history if you are not Rusich. Ukraine is a tree without roots. That is why you have such a hatred of Russia and its history.

                Close and lazy you are our conformist, read carefully.
                I have no hatred for Russia. For this is my second homeland.
                And three generations of my ancestors lie on Voskresensky in Saratov.
                And an endless number on a rural graveyard near Kiev.
                I know history both Russian and Ukrainian. also literature.
                And you, apparently, do not know either one or the other.
                Sorry, but I do not recognize the yellow Internet press as a source of knowledge.
                Yes, and you are clearly at odds with the Russian language. Do you hope to enrich it with pearls like "podaramutili"?
                Believe me - youthful passion for graphomania passes quickly.
                Unless, of course, read the classics, and not get carried away with easily digestible chewing gum.
                I don’t ask about the faith of the fathers. For judging by the lexicon and references - an adherent of the American introduced paganism.
      2. ele1285
        ele1285 24 February 2014 13: 45
        +5
        Quote: Uncle
        I don’t understand why Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is called the GDP in the title.

        The USSR country was called the Union, no one was bad about it. Well, they write GDP, everyone understands, you imagine yourself on an avatar as an uncle, not Dmitry. What are you shy about? Your question is not worth a damn.
        1. anarh
          anarh 24 February 2014 14: 35
          0
          Quote: ele1285
          Well, they write the GDP, everyone understands, you imagine yourself on an avatar as an uncle, not Dmitry. What are you shy about? Your question is not worth a damn.

          Worth it.
          GDP is an unofficial, derogatory abbreviation for the full name of the President of Russia.
          I consider such familiarity with respect to Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin unworthy.
          To write for a long time - write to V.V. Putin Allowed.
          A person who does not respect the Head of his own state cannot expect respect from both fellow tribesmen and citizens of other states.
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 24 February 2014 16: 33
            +1
            Quote: anarh
            GDP is an unofficial, derogatory abbreviation for the full name of the President of Russia.
            I consider such familiarity with respect to Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin unworthy.

            Nonsense! GDP sounds more interesting.
            GDP promised to double GDP in 10 years and soon he will have twins! What did you think? laughing tongue
            1. anarh
              anarh 24 February 2014 17: 02
              +1
              Quote: Ivan.
              Nonsense! GDP sounds more interesting.
              GDP promised to double GDP in 10 years and soon he will have twins! What did you think?

              What I thought about and wrote.
              And you, apparently, are appealing to the old joke about A.S. Pushkin.
              -Alexander Sergeyevich, and to whom did you write the last epigram?
              -On you. And who did you think of?
              I like to joke, but there are concepts regarding which jokes are inappropriate.
              1. Ivan.
                Ivan. 24 February 2014 17: 33
                +1
                Quote: anarh
                What I thought about and wrote.
                And you, apparently, are appealing to the old joke about A.S. Pushkin.
                -Alexander Sergeyevich, and to whom did you write the last epigram?
                -On you. And who did you think of?
                I like to joke, but there are concepts regarding which jokes are inappropriate.

                Back nonsense Putin is a servant of the people and not God, and I do not intend to abandon the sense of humor for the sake of those who believe in it. And about Pushkin, a great joke, if I heard it, I forgot, thanks for it.
                1. anarh
                  anarh 25 February 2014 02: 29
                  0
                  Quote: Ivan.
                  Back nonsense Putin is a servant of the people and not God, and I do not intend to abandon the sense of humor for the sake of those who believe in it. And about Pushkin, a great joke, if I heard it, I forgot, thanks for it.

                  As correctly noted, I believe in God, and not in V.V. Putin. I respect Putin. Including as the Head of the Russian state. And the head of the successful and a lot for him (the Russian state) has done. This does not allow joking about him.
                  A joke of A.S. Pushkin, really excellent.
                  Read or, at worst, listen to "Journey to Arzrum", you will discover a completely new Alexander Sergeevich.
                  Success.
      3. olegkrava
        olegkrava 24 February 2014 19: 08
        +1
        Because RDA does not sound.
    2. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 24 February 2014 13: 32
      +1
      Quotation: I.P.
      Question and answer, the radicals lost in Ukraine, the first that allowed bloodshed, the second who really took power, the radicals have neither money nor power, they are now raising it, but some time will pass and the Maidan needs to be released, but how to free it means as in France, during the French Revolution, you will be gradually forgotten by the radicals, and then called to account for the blood and defended one by one, the opposition, in the face of a handful of rats, you are not needed, they have already eaten a fat, fattened rat, they will eat you too , Europe, America, you also do not need, you created one voo business and must leave. If you are thinking about going south and east, then this is a civil war in which a hackneyed western Ukraine will simply lose, and Russia will not allow a massacre either. Your fat sacks won, and not the people of Ukraine, and if you do not understand this, then you are fools. Yes, it’s a call, a call to our highest authority, surrounded by snubbed oligarchs and corrupt officials stunned by the authorities, but there is something to think about - EVERYTHING.

      As if everything is cool. But you can probably admit the thought that the radicals understand all this and that they can do with them as with "Latvian shooters"? Those. who will shoot whom is not yet clear. Rather, on the contrary, that is, it is clear that everyone will want to shoot each other. It's not a question. The question is who will start earlier.
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 24 February 2014 16: 59
        +1
        The video of a simple Ukrainian girl telling about the horrors of the Maidan and the problems of the current Ukrainian government turned out to be fake. It turned out that Rita, who tells about all the nightmares in the frame and urges the West to help with democracy in Ukraine, actually works as a waitress in the USA, and the video sequence is a good installation.
        Meanwhile, the video, published on February 10, has already gained more than five million views and about 20 thousand comments. "All the people of my country are on the streets. The reason for what is happening is simple - we want to be free from dictatorship. We are civilized people, while our authorities are simply barbarians. Therefore, I ask you to help us build freedom in our country," the report says.
        1. Ivan.
          Ivan. 24 February 2014 17: 39
          +3
          Quote: Z.O.V.
          Meanwhile, the video, published on February 10, has already gained more than five million views and about 20 thousand comments.

          More precisely, 7 070 007, it means there is interest and they are fed with rotten meat, and where is our answer, and then, as soon as Putin gives it, they are tired of waiting.
        2. Platov
          Platov 24 February 2014 23: 12
          0
          This video shows the true essence of the Okrainian nation; it cannot live to develop independently. He always needs someone who will wipe the snot, a strong hand that would indicate the correct direction of movement, they do not have their own head.
    3. Roman_999
      Roman_999 24 February 2014 15: 36
      0
      An excellent post, and the analysis of the rapid revolution, which over the 2 month replaced the President, should be taken into account in our Security Council.
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 25 February 2014 10: 54
      -1
      Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
      Your fat sacks won, not the people of Ukraine, and if you do not understand this, then you are fools

      I agree completely up to this point! +!

      Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
      Yes, this is a bell, a bell of our highest authority, surrounded by snubbed oligarchs and corrupt officials stunned by the authorities,

      But this is complete crap!
      You are comparing a strong world-class country with a republic where a coup paid by the West was carried out. In the Russian Federation, this principle is now impossible! Goat-stealing is everywhere, both in the west and in the states. It's all about their quantity. In Ukraine, they ate all the borrowed money and brought the country to a pen. In Russia, even compared with the states, a completely different situation. No need to climb into the jungle, just look at the economic situation in the Russian Federation, it is much better than in the European Union and the states! yes
  • Su24
    Su24 24 February 2014 20: 20
    +2
    Hello.
    I am the coordinator of the Tyumen branch of the Eurasian Movement. We are creating structures to assist Ukraine in repelling the Bendery trash.
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1CV70Gqy0-9Ja0Y2Tc5BjgkAE_EFZpffnM540AH4wcAY/vie
    wform

    Please fill out this form, distribute it wherever you can.
  • 222222
    222222 24 February 2014 11: 38
    +4
    “The coup and the new order in Ukraine. First trends
    http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2014/02/24/gosudarstvennyj-perevorot-i-novyj-porjadok-
    na-ukraine-pervye-tendencii-25929.html
    “The United States believes that Viktor Yanukovych resigned as president of Ukraine. This was stated by US Presidential Adviser on National Security Susan Rice on NBC. ”
    http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2014/02/24/janukovich-ushel-s-posta-prezidenta-ukrainy
    -belyj-dom-25933.html
    “The USA supports the decision of the Verkhovna Rada to appoint Alexander Turchinov acting the country's president, said Secretary of State John Kerry in a telephone conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. "
    http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2014/02/24/usa-podderzhali-naznachenie-turchinova-io-p
    rezidenta-ukrainy-25931.html

    "The acting president of Ukraine, Verkhovna Rada speaker Oleksandr Turchynov on Sunday said that the country is returning to the course towards European integration."
    http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2014/02/24/turchinov-zajavil-o-vozvraschenii-k-kursu-n
    a-evrointegraciu-25930.html
    On the call of the Ambassador of Russia to Ukraine for consultations in Moscow
    News | 24.02.2014/10/13 | XNUMX:XNUMX


    In connection with the aggravation of the situation in Ukraine and the need for a comprehensive analysis of the situation, a decision was made to call M.U.Zurabov, Ambassador of the Russian Federation to Ukraine, for consultations in Moscow.
    According to materials: mid.ru

    «

    “There are no funds at all in Ukraine’s treasury account, the situation in the economy is catastrophic, and said. about. President Alexander Turchinov.

    “We have enormous problems with the pension fund, with the banking system,” he said, and added that in such a situation one should not hesitate to form a new government. ”

    Lukashenko: "The sacred duty of people in uniform is to prevent Maidan
    http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2014/02/24/lukashenko-svjaschennaja-objazannost-ljudej
    -v-pogonah-ne-dopustit-majdana-25937.html
    1. fedorovith
      fedorovith 24 February 2014 11: 52
      +38
      In Tajikistan, it also began with the Russian language, they studied Tajik in factories, instead of working. It ended in a mass departure of the Russian-speaking population, the outbreak of outright criminals to power, then a civil war, the collapse of the economy (the industry was completely destroyed), and now there are crowds of migrant workers.
      1. olegkrava
        olegkrava 24 February 2014 19: 17
        +1
        They are now starting to learn Russian language !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      2. BIC
        BIC 24 February 2014 20: 06
        0
        It seems that in Ukraine it will be the same.
    2. GDP
      GDP 24 February 2014 12: 24
      +8
      The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine recognized the law on the foundations of the state language policy as invalid!
      Russian language is now illegal in Ukraine!
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 24 February 2014 13: 49
        +1
        Quote: GDP
        Russian language is now illegal in Ukraine!

        It is better if they recognize themselves as illegal and abandon apartments, cars and privileges. Wise guys are bloody.
      2. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 24 February 2014 14: 31
        +8
        Oh father! I don’t know the Ukrainian mov! And what should I do now ! request
        Let them immediately go to the Latin alphabet!
        1. olegkrava
          olegkrava 24 February 2014 19: 19
          0
          Learn Hebrew
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 25 February 2014 04: 58
            +6
            I am fluent in Russian obscene - any Natsik will understand him! soldier
  • Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 24 February 2014 11: 42
    +13
    for Russia it still comes back to action ...
    1. Manager
      Manager 24 February 2014 12: 50
      +8
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      for Russia it still comes back to action ...

      Two Poland is already too much (((
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 24 February 2014 16: 46
        0
        Quote: Manager
        Two Poland is already too much (((

        Do you think they’ll cross over?))
      2. olegkrava
        olegkrava 24 February 2014 19: 20
        0
        Two Poland is impossible, but Maidurina kakraz!
    2. Hudo
      Hudo 24 February 2014 13: 01
      -28%
      Quote: Sasha 19871987
      for Russia it still comes back to action ...


      And then! Vova Putin draining Ukraine personally sawed through a hole below the waterline to the ship named "Russia".
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 24 February 2014 13: 05
        +3
        Quote: Hudo
        Vova Putin draining Ukraine

        What a ridiculous statement? Putin is a serious figure, the Olympiad has ended, his rating is high, right now he will begin active actions.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 24 February 2014 13: 09
          -13%
          Quote: Uncle
          Quote: Hudo
          Vova Putin draining Ukraine

          What a ridiculous statement? Putin is a serious figure, the Olympiad has ended, his rating is high, right now he will begin active actions.


          His actions now look similar to how to extinguish sparks on a ashes with a languid stream from a petyantchik. There is a lot of ambition - zero sense.
          1. CTEPX
            CTEPX 24 February 2014 16: 49
            0
            Quote: Hudo
            like a languid stream

            Isn't it too early to "show gop"?
            Nothing has begun yet.
          2. demel2
            demel2 24 February 2014 17: 45
            +1
            Quote: Hudo
            . There is a lot of ambition - zero sense.

            I'm not a big fan of Putin, but imagine for a moment such a situation that something happened to Putin, and Medvedev became president. IMHO, if you realized the depth of the abyss into which our country would collapse, if you realize this, maybe the attitude towards the president will change ?
          3. 222222
            222222 24 February 2014 23: 40
            +1
            Hudo (2) SU Today, 13:09 ↑ "His actions now look like a sluggish trickle from a drinker ..".
            . ... so how does it taste? ...
        2. baltika-18
          baltika-18 24 February 2014 13: 17
          +2
          Quote: Uncle
          Putin is a serious figure, the Olympiad has ended, his rating is high, right now he will begin active actions.

          I doubt it. He will have to coordinate his actions with Europe. Ukraine is in a pre-default state, so that it would need to pull out 35 billion dollars. Can Russia pull such a burden if the country's production drops and the economy declines?
          1. brainkiller
            brainkiller 24 February 2014 13: 25
            +4
            Quote: baltika-18
            Will Russia be able to pull such a burden, given the decline in production in the country and the economic downturn?

            can, but not all.
            1. Sandov
              Sandov 24 February 2014 16: 34
              0
              Quote: brainkiller
              Quote: baltika-18
              Will Russia be able to pull such a burden, given the decline in production in the country and the economic downturn?

              can, but not all.

              Ukraine yes, Khokhlostan no.
          2. Orik
            Orik 24 February 2014 13: 29
            +3
            Quote: baltika-18
            Quote: Uncle
            Putin is a serious figure, the Olympiad has ended, his rating is high, right now he will begin active actions.

            I doubt it. He will have to coordinate his actions with Europe. Ukraine is in a pre-default state, so that it would need to pull out 35 billion dollars. Can Russia pull such a burden if the country's production drops and the economy declines?

            And what's the difference, take from pi.ndosovsky bonds 15 or 35 lard ??? The main thing that we get for it! If the unity of the peoples of Ukraine and Russia, then it is sooo cheap.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 24 February 2014 13: 49
              +2
              Quote: Orik

              And what difference does it take to take 15 or 35 lard from pi.ndosovsky bonds ??

              Ha, but for these bonds we paid money. And in general, as you imagine, give money and finance the Nazis? The better they live, the more popular they will become in Ukraine, this is insanity !!!
              1. CTEPX
                CTEPX 24 February 2014 16: 51
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                give loot and finance the Nazis?

                Give loot to those who shorten the Nazis)).
                1. demel2
                  demel2 24 February 2014 17: 47
                  0
                  Quote: ctepx
                  Give loot to those who shorten the Nazis)

                  But is there such a force there now?
                  1. CTEPX
                    CTEPX 24 February 2014 18: 02
                    0
                    Quote: demel2
                    Quote: ctepx
                    Give loot to those who shorten the Nazis)
                    But is there such a force there now?

                    Wait for it to appear soon. Then - give)).
            2. ele1285
              ele1285 24 February 2014 14: 11
              0
              Quote: Orik
              And what's the difference, take from pi.ndosovsky bonds 15 or 35 lard ??? The main thing that we get for it! If the unity of the peoples of Ukraine and Russia, then it is sooo cheap.

              And if we don’t get anything? So we are profound. What's next?
              1. olviko
                olviko 24 February 2014 16: 39
                -1
                "And if we don't get anything?"

                Speaking of bonds. American investment group Franklin Templeton, the largest owner of Ukrainian government bonds, has lost more than half a billion dollars since the beginning of this year due to unrest in the country. This was reported by The Wall Street Journal, citing FactSet data. In early 2014, Templeton owned seven billion dollars worth of Ukrainian bonds. By February 19, the value of assets fell by $ 522 million.
            3. baltika-18
              baltika-18 24 February 2014 15: 08
              -1
              Quote: Orik
              And what difference does it take to take 15 or 35 lard from pi.ndosovsky bonds?

              We won’t take anything from the sheep’s treasure, we just won’t be able to. And we are buying Ukrainian Eurobonds.
              Quote: Orik
              The main thing that we get for it! E

              And we won’t get anything except headache and heartache.
              Now the war of big money begins, the war for influence.
              We have few chances due to the anti-Russian current government in Kiev.
            4. BIC
              BIC 24 February 2014 20: 15
              0
              + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
            5. BIC
              BIC 24 February 2014 20: 30
              0
              Tell me, did anyone startle from the above options? [/ Quote]


              Yeah. Already a frost on the skin ... br-rr.
          3. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 24 February 2014 13: 30
            0
            Quote: baltika-18
            Ukraine is in a pre-default state, in order to pull it out, it needs to get $ 35 billion. Will Russia be able to pull such a burden

            I don’t understand why Russia should give this money and to whom?
            1. predator.3
              predator.3 24 February 2014 13: 47
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              I don’t understand why Russia should give this money and to whom?

              Yes, in principle, you can give that kind of money to Kiev ... in exchange for the southwestern regions! repeat
            2. baltika-18
              baltika-18 24 February 2014 15: 03
              -2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              I don’t understand why Russia should give this money and to whom?

              To the wrong address, Sanya. This is for you to see Siluanov. He said "the rest of the money according to the agreement after the formation of the cabinet of ministers."
              The catch is that Russia, except how to financially influence the situation in Ukraine, can no longer do anything.
              At first we walked confidently, then Maidan, a kiddock with Eurobonds (it only seems to be frivolous, but in fact it is a blow below the belt, against the rules).
              There is no longer any authority with which the agreement was concluded. In order to maintain at least some influence we need to give money, we will not give Europe, but the regime is clearly looming anti-Russian.
              We are essentially driven into a corner in the Ukrainian question, and even in time pressure, time is working against us.
              There is one option: spit on international rules and send troops to protect the Russian-speaking population. But this is war.
              Sevastopol needs to be defended in some way, but Crimea is better. The rest is ghostly.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 24 February 2014 15: 10
                0
                [quote = baltika-18] The whole trick is that Russia can no longer influence the situation in Ukraine except financially. [/ quote]
                So even more so, giving money is nonsense. It’s easier to stupidly burn them, although it will be warm. [Quote = baltika-18] In order to maintain at least some influence we need to give money, we won’t give Europe.
                Kohl, how much are we for 23 years, gave Ukraine money and what did it come to? sho again give-to? [quote = baltika-18]
                Sevastopol must be defended in some way, but Crimea is better. The rest is ghostly. [It’s not clear that in Sevastopol, read komenty, there is too much disinformation. You don’t know who to believe and what is true.
              2. Sandov
                Sandov 24 February 2014 16: 37
                0
                Quote: baltika-18
                There is one option: spit on international rules and send troops to protect the Russian-speaking population. But this is war.
                Sevastopol needs to be defended in some way, but Crimea is better. The rest is ghostly.

                Well, let's say we can defend the Crimea. Denounce the Khrushchev gift decision.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 24 February 2014 16: 49
                  0
                  Quote: Sandov
                  Denounce the Khrushchev gift decision.

                  This is not enough, all one will have to enter the military, there the Tatars are completely frostbitten. Yes, and the Natsiks in Kiev will tear and throw. They don't give a damn about Washington.
              3. CTEPX
                CTEPX 24 February 2014 16: 58
                0
                Quote: baltika-18
                time is working against us.

                Not true. Everything that allows Ukraine not to turn into a battlefield works for us and against the Anglo-Saxons. The later they manage to organize an all-versus-all dump in Ukraine, the more time we have. For preparation)).
          4. shark
            shark 24 February 2014 14: 09
            +2
            That's the whole cynus. Now we don’t have to pull anyone from anywhere. The opposition has given a reason. Europe will not give money. I mean real money, not the 20 lard that Ukraine will throw to pay off their own debts. Everything is developing It’s the best way possible. Do not panic. This snake ball in Kiev will devour itself.
          5. tommytros
            tommytros 24 February 2014 19: 31
            0
            Gold and foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation - about $ 500 billion
            35 for Ukraine - affordable price. The Russian Federation will pull without problems. For example, the Central Bank spends $ 10 billion a week to support the ruble exchange rate (currency interventions). At the same time, a slight drop in the ruble is possible, but in the long term, this is a very successful financially and politically important investment.
            The Russian Federation only pays $ 100 million a year for renting a base for the Black Sea Fleet.
            And the payment for gas transportation is about $ 1,5 billion per year.
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        3. Boris55
          Boris55 24 February 2014 13: 36
          -1
          Quote: Uncle
          Putin is a serious figure, the Olympiad has ended, his rating is high, right now he will begin active actions.

          Here are a couple of quotes:
          «Indeed, Allah does not change what is with people until they themselves change what is with them.»
          (Quran 13: 12)
          «... the Kingdom of God will not come in a noticeable way, and they will not say: behold, it is here, or: behold, there. For behold, the kingdom of God is within you»
          (Luke 17: 20-21)

          So far, the "independent regions" have decided to protect themselves with STICKS. The official authorities of the southeast are in no hurry to mobilize their citizens to liberate all of Ukraine from fascism. In such a situation, the OPEN intervention of Russia will be regarded by many still doubting citizens - as aggression, which will only lead to an increase in supporters of Bandera.

          Now in Kharkov, the second capital of Ukraine, the same scenario begins to play out. While peaceful demonstrators surrounded the city hall ... and further on the Kiev scenario? Where are the measures of Kharkov? Why does not strangle infection in the bud? Does grandmother save her?

          And you say Russian troops to Ukraine ... and they need it?
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 24 February 2014 15: 11
            -1
            Quote: Boris55
            And you say Russian troops to Ukraine ... and they need it?

            No troops needed, Putin has enough leverage. Let me give you an example: Obama said that the Olympics are absolutely safe and that all Americans should go there. I believe that he didn’t utter this himself, but under the leadership of Putin, who was so disinclined to many. Obama calls Putin and talks about Ukraine, namely Obama to Putin, and not vice versa. So I believe that our president, this is not a Ukrainian prezik for you ....
            1. Gecko
              Gecko 24 February 2014 18: 02
              -1
              Yanukovych is also a lot of people who recently called ...
              This does not mean that they were afraid of him, they simply probed him.
        4. aleks700
          aleks700 24 February 2014 14: 03
          -2
          Will start? Actions? Oh well. Ukraine leaked. Now agree with the Natsik.
        5. ele1285
          ele1285 24 February 2014 14: 09
          -4
          How tired of the tales of a good king and bad boyars. A VVP-serious figure and DAM is also a serious one, prime minister. The olympiad is over, the rating is high, in Kadirstan there are 146%, now he will begin active actions, the only question is. 10 million will relocate to Ukraine?
          I have already been corrected, but the GDP has only one plus. He did not allow the collapse of the country. For this I bow to him. The rest of the policy, especially the national one, is shvaah.
      2. gfhjkm
        gfhjkm 24 February 2014 13: 14
        +1
        Here ROSBALT translated Brzezinski's article. In his opinion, the West can play a constructive role in containing violence in Ukraine and should show the Kremlin that attempts to destabilize the nascent democracy in Kiev or secession of parts of Ukraine could force Washington to use its influence and take steps that would prove economically costly for Moscow. Options can range from financial sanctions on one person, to a review of Russia's status in the WTO, the World Bank, and roles in the G8, the article says.
        Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2014/02/24/1236823.html
        1. jjj
          jjj 24 February 2014 14: 35
          +2
          Quote: gfhjkm
          Options can range from financial sanctions on one person, to a review of Russia's status in the WTO, the World Bank, and its role in G8

          But it seems that we deliberately climbed into these world institutions, so that everyone would think that with their help one can somehow seriously influence Russia. Tell me, did anyone startle from these options?
          1. Sandov
            Sandov 24 February 2014 16: 40
            -1
            Quote: jjj
            But it seems that we deliberately climbed into these world institutions, so that everyone would think that with their help one can somehow seriously influence Russia. Tell me, did anyone startle from these options?

            It's time to stop bowing to the gringo. Our allies in the East.
          2. gfhjkm
            gfhjkm 24 February 2014 19: 26
            0
            Personally, I do not, but liberals?
        2. Ivan.
          Ivan. 24 February 2014 15: 10
          0
          Quote: gfhjkm
          before the revision of Russia's status in the WTO, the World Bank

          It would not be bad to get out of their slavery, they found something to threaten!
        3. sh1749
          sh1749 24 February 2014 19: 25
          0
          Already not scary.
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      3. SHOCK.
        SHOCK. 24 February 2014 13: 40
        +1
        Quote: Hudo
        And then! Vova Putin draining Ukraine personally sawed through a hole below the waterline to the ship named "Russia".

        So far, no one has handed over anyone. Let's hope they ate themselves like cockroaches in a bank. Everything goes to that. Where is Klyachko by the way? Something is not visible to him, and Yatsik is already in the background.
      4. olegkrava
        olegkrava 24 February 2014 19: 25
        0
        What did you get to Putin, he is the head of another state. Ukraine has its own head
        or you won’t understand your ass, but let it rake those pigsties that they built
        Maydanuty and Bendera. And then Vladimir Putin will say his word, but I don’t think that it
        will be different from the words of A. Lukashenko.
  • a52333
    a52333 24 February 2014 11: 45
    +23
    There is one more point that GDP should think hard about: for whom to hold on, for the oligarchs whom the West holds for the scrotum and who will surrender it when they first press the scrotum with the West, or with the people?
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 24 February 2014 12: 34
      +8
      Quote: a52333
      There is one more point that GDP should think hard about: for whom to hold on, for the oligarchs whom the West holds for the scrotum and who will surrender it when they first press the scrotum with the West, or with the people?

      He holds on to the people only before the elections, the rest of the time, alas, ah.
      1. a52333
        a52333 24 February 2014 12: 43
        +11
        He holds on to the people just before the election
        Well, not so categorically, after all. And repeating: Oligarchs, in order to preserve "their" business, will sell tomorrow, become gays, fascists, or whatever, if only at the feeding trough
      2. military
        military 24 February 2014 14: 22
        -2
        Quote: baltika-18
        He holds on to the people only before the elections, the rest of the time, alas, ah.

        and what do the people have to do with it? ... before the elections, he "holds" to the hardware resource ... however, like anyone in his place ...
        The hypostasis of "Gorbacheva number two" does not tempt him at all ... and therefore, he will hold on to anything and with the last bit of strength ... hi
    2. Uncle
      Uncle 24 February 2014 17: 03
      -1
      Quote: a52333
      There is one more point that GDP should think hard about: who to hold on to

      Putin does not twitch, he calmly and lawfully restores order. Here is the movement in the swamp case, you can’t compare it with Maidan, they didn’t kill anyone, however:
      According to the verdict, Anastasia Naumova (Dukhanina) was sentenced by the court to 3 years and 3 months of imprisonment with a probation period of 3 years. Yaroslav Belousov and Artem Savelov received, respectively, 2 years 6 months and 2 years 7 months in prison. Andrei Barabanov sentenced to 3 years 7 months in prison. Stepan Zimin sentenced to 3 years 6 months in prison. Denis Lutskevich and Alexei Polikhovich received 3 years 6 months each, and Sergey Krivov received 4 years in prison.
  • Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 24 February 2014 11: 47
    +4
    Photo delivered))) What gesture was performed by Tymoshenko? "Do you have"?)
  • Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 24 February 2014 11: 47
    +32
    In my humble opinion, it is not Putin who should think about something, but the new Ukrainian authorities should think about how and in what vein they will build their relations with Russia and its authorities in the person of President Putin. And they will have to be built, because you will not be full (and warm) with the promises of the EU and the slogans of "maydauns". And this is worth remembering, since the Ukrainian manufacturer is primarily focused on the Russian market (Europe does not need Ukrainian goods for x ... east, they have enough of their own), plus the consumption of Russian energy resources and raw materials (which Europe simply does not have) ...
    So it is not necessary to think about GDP, but "maydanutym". And think as quickly as possible and (if I may say so) more correctly ...
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 24 February 2014 12: 25
      +3
      They will not think - everything has already been invented for them. If the maydanuts are crushed, then "Good-buy America, oh, Where I have never been", if not, then half of Ukraine will go to Europe, the other to Russia.
    2. ale-x
      ale-x 24 February 2014 12: 30
      +5
      Why do YOU ​​believe that the "Ukrainian authorities" will build something there? And if they are just "torpedoes", disposable soldiers, and the territory of Ukraine is simply a training ground?
      In these situations, they have nothing to think about at all, they think for them, we all already understood that.
      1. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 24 February 2014 13: 13
        +1
        Quote: ale-x
        Why do you believe that the "Ukrainian authorities" will build something there?

        I do not believe it, I state that the new authorities of Ukraine will have to think about relations with Russia. They have no other option ...
        Why they do not have and will not have another option, I already explained in the comment for 11:47 ...
        1. Kunar
          Kunar 24 February 2014 14: 50
          0
          The question is who will think for them ....
      2. Kunar
        Kunar 24 February 2014 14: 49
        0
        Yes it is. Read the classics. "It's hard to be god" for example ...
    3. Manager
      Manager 24 February 2014 12: 31
      +2
      Quote: Chicot 1
      In my humble opinion, this is not Putin should think about something there, this is the new authorities of Ukraine should think about


      While they think, a lot of Russian blood can be shed. Therefore, Putin will have to think and act quickly in order to protect the Russian-speaking population of Crimea, Sevastopol, Kharkov, etc.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 24 February 2014 13: 08
        -4
        Quote: Manager
        While they think, a lot of Russian blood can be shed. Therefore, Putin will have to think and act quickly in order to protect the Russian-speaking population of Crimea, Sevastopol, Kharkov, etc.

        He had already defended when he gave three lards of greenback for the opportunity to kill or cut Russians on the territory of "U". Such a "defender" would walk ... through the forest.
        1. the polar
          the polar 24 February 2014 13: 20
          +3
          Quote: Hudo
          Quote: Manager
          While they think, a lot of Russian blood can be shed. Therefore, Putin will have to think and act quickly in order to protect the Russian-speaking population of Crimea, Sevastopol, Kharkov, etc.

          He had already defended when he gave three lards of greenback for the opportunity to kill or cut Russians on the territory of "U". Such a "defender" would walk ... through the forest.

          Sorry, I wanted to give you a plus, but a minus jumped out. Here, someone behind the screen counters up. I watch it not for the first time.
          1. Hudo
            Hudo 24 February 2014 13: 30
            +13
            Quote: Polar
            Sorry, I wanted to give you a plus, but a minus jumped out. Here, someone behind the screen counters up. I watch it not for the first time.

            Not plus-minus happiness.

            Donbass. Luhansk. The day before yesterday threw a cry - they say the Banderas will come, all sign up for the "Luhansk Guard" - we will fight back. Retired officers came, not indifferent, came from the region. There are many young people. We made lists. Everything was done so that the steam went off into the whistle ...
            And since yesterday, they’re calling me at the telephone number indicated for communication and sending SMS messages, and since this morning, my wife and I were put on pressure, although she is not near the aisles, I have two children — they will probably start soon. And that mug, by the name of Efremov (deputies from the PR) handed over these lists to the new and declared that he would cooperate with them ...
            That's how I myself made the list of unreliable ones. The last time I rushed when a Jew took a company, and now it's even more fun. ((
            1. Nevsky_ZU
              Nevsky_ZU 24 February 2014 13: 38
              +1
              Quote: Hudo
              Quote: Polar
              Sorry, I wanted to give you a plus, but a minus jumped out. Here, someone behind the screen counters up. I watch it not for the first time.

              Not plus-minus happiness.

              Donbass. Luhansk. The day before yesterday threw a cry - they say the Banderas will come, all sign up for the "Luhansk Guard" - we will fight back. Retired officers came, not indifferent, came from the region. There are many young people. We made lists. Everything was done so that the steam went off into the whistle ...
              And since yesterday, they’re calling me at the telephone number indicated for communication and sending SMS messages, and since this morning, my wife and I were put on pressure, although she is not near the aisles, I have two children — they will probably start soon. And that mug, by the name of Efremov (deputies from the PR) handed over these lists to the new and declared that he would cooperate with them ...
              That's how I myself made the list of unreliable ones. The last time I rushed when a Jew took a company, and now it's even more fun. ((


              Aba Aba Aba Aba Lede !!!!!! belay belay belay Russian people betrayed everywhere !!!!
              1. Hudo
                Hudo 24 February 2014 13: 49
                -3
                Quote: Nevsky_ZU
                Aba-aba-aba-aba-ice !!!!!! belay belay belay Russian people betrayed everywhere !!!!


                And then! There is a very influential Putinophile businessman in Lugansk by the name of Krivobokov. So this Vlad Krivobokov hung out two billboards with Putin in a flight helmet, and so from Saturday to Sunday, the poster was large, Olympic rings were painted across his face ... um ... feces. Apparently the grandparents tried at night. I didn’t see the picture itself, it was apparently washed away - but the way I watched it was crucified and put it on the cartilage of love, is impressive.
                In the Donbass, cryvodusia and betrayal have not been forgotten for a long time.
                1. Alexei
                  Alexei 24 February 2014 14: 05
                  +4
                  Quote: Hudo
                  Krivobokov hung two billboards with Putin in a helmet, and so from Saturday to Sunday on a poster in large size, Olympic rings were painted across his face ... um ... feces.

                  I hope this action has improved the situation in Ukraine. Putin did not have to intervene with his tranches. It was necessary for Ukraine to join the EU, so that every resident personally became convinced that Euro integration was bullshit on September night. They buy bonds from them that nobody needs to fuck, and they draw Olympic rings on the faces of buyers with fake rings ... Well, well.
                  1. Hudo
                    Hudo 24 February 2014 14: 14
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexej
                    Putin did not have to interfere with his tranches.

                    If Putin had invested these three lard in a timely manner in support of Russian organizations in Ukraine, now he would have had a Ukrainian presidency oriented toward Russia and the same majority in parliament and had no headache or question what to do.
                    But nothing grows out of nothing, and the Russophile thing that has grown by itself, they will trample very soon without money replenishment, and the very Putin has greatly contributed to this with his Olympiad.
                    1. CTEPX
                      CTEPX 24 February 2014 17: 24
                      +1
                      Quote: Hudo
                      If Putin invested these three lard in a timely manner in support of Russian organizations in Ukraine, now

                      If he did, he would have been d.ura.k)). Russia is not yet so independent as to directly invest money somewhere)).
                      For example, in order to extend communications to the South of Russia, they did the Olympics in Sochi)). Yes, and won)).
                      Any money directly invested by Russia is not just stolen, but with this money they work against the plan. We still cleaned and cleaned from the fifth column.
                    2. ale-x
                      ale-x 25 February 2014 11: 16
                      +1
                      As you can see, it is easier to engage in "the development of sports infrastructure in Sochi" ...
            2. the polar
              the polar 24 February 2014 13: 51
              +5
              Quote: Hudo
              Quote: Polar
              Sorry, I wanted to give you a plus, but a minus jumped out. Here, someone behind the screen counters up. I watch it not for the first time.

              Not plus-minus happiness.

              Donbass. Luhansk. The day before yesterday threw a cry - they say the Banderas will come, all sign up for the "Luhansk Guard" - we will fight back. Retired officers came, not indifferent, came from the region. There are many young people. We made lists. Everything was done so that the steam went off into the whistle ...
              And since yesterday, they’re calling me at the telephone number indicated for communication and sending SMS messages, and since this morning, my wife and I were put on pressure, although she is not near the aisles, I have two children — they will probably start soon. And that mug, by the name of Efremov (deputies from the PR) handed over these lists to the new and declared that he would cooperate with them ...
              That's how I myself made the list of unreliable ones. The last time I rushed when a Jew took a company, and now it's even more fun. ((

              Moreover, continue self-organization, within the house of the block, district. Send tries to all deputies, and look for everything that is useful, and fits well in the hand. Self-defense groups are better than doing nothing at all and hoping to carry through. I understand that advising is easy, but something still needs to be done.
              1. Hudo
                Hudo 24 February 2014 13: 57
                +3
                Quote: Polar
                Moreover, continue self-organization,

                Children and family knit hands - but I'm not afraid for myself.
                1. aleks700
                  aleks700 24 February 2014 14: 11
                  +6
                  So it is necessary to protect them. It’s like in a war - I would go to war with the Germans, but the family ...
                  1. Hudo
                    Hudo 24 February 2014 14: 18
                    +6
                    Quote: aleks700
                    So it is necessary to protect them. It’s like in a war - I would go to war with the Germans, but the family ...


                    At the moment, I did everything I could, managed to wrestle with the imported Galician overshoots and then I am not going to sit on the pope evenly.
                2. Bepdukt
                  Bepdukt 24 February 2014 15: 33
                  +2
                  The guys sympathize, if only in the Caucasus it didn’t work out a neighbor cut the rest of the door denser we can’t come, but come to everyone. I won’t answer for everyone - I’m with you.
            3. Ivan.
              Ivan. 24 February 2014 15: 26
              +3
              Quote: Hudo
              Retired officers came, not indifferent, came from the area. A lot of youth. Made lists. Everything was done so that the steam went off the whistle ..

              ON THE ACCOUNT OF THE LISTS, YOU WAS IMMEDIATELY REWRITED AND THE SPECIFICATIONS ZERO, IF ALL THIS "REVOLUTION" IS PLANNED, MEANS AND THE RESISTANCE OF THE TEACHING AND HOW TO FIGHT WITH IT. IMMEDIATELY SEARCH LISTS AND CONDUCT A PRACTICALLY MILITARY ADVICE AND THINK HOW TO DON'T GET YOURSELF INTERCUTED AND GENERALLY DEVELOP BEHAVIORAL PLANS FOR ANY SITUATIONS.
              1. Sandov
                Sandov 24 February 2014 16: 48
                +2
                Quote: Ivan.
                ON THE ACCOUNT OF THE LISTS, YOU WAS IMMEDIATELY REWRITED AND THE SPECIFICATIONS ZERO, IF ALL THIS "REVOLUTION" IS PLANNED, MEANS AND THE RESISTANCE OF THE TEACHING AND HOW TO FIGHT WITH IT. IMMEDIATELY SEARCH LISTS AND CONDUCT A PRACTICALLY MILITARY ADVICE AND THINK HOW TO DON'T GET YOURSELF INTERCUTED AND GENERALLY DEVELOP BEHAVIORAL PLANS FOR ANY SITUATIONS.

                Take the initiative in your own hands. There is no Victory without struggle. The Slavs wake up. You have never been slaves.
      2. 31231
        31231 24 February 2014 13: 09
        +4
        While they think, a lot of Russian blood can be shed. Therefore, Putin will have to think and act quickly in order to protect the Russian-speaking population of Crimea, Sevastopol, Kharkov, etc.

        General blood will be shed there. For after default there will be nothing to eat. And they will put the new power on the pitchfork.
    4. 31231
      31231 24 February 2014 13: 08
      +2
      Totally agree with you. And the new Ukrainian "authorities" seem to begin to realize that tomorrow they will be bent financially and defaulted. And no help from the West will help. Woland has already bent Timoshenko with Yusch once. Will bring new ones too.
    5. Arhj
      Arhj 24 February 2014 13: 10
      +1
      Quote: Chicot 1
      In my humble opinion, it’s not Putin who should think about something there, this is the new Ukrainian authorities should think about how and in what way they will build their relations with Russia and its authorities in the person of President Putin

      So it is probably true, but in order for the authorities to think about something, this power must first be created. That booth that appointed himself power in Ukraine, in fact, is not power, if only because at the moment he himself does not know who he relies on and what to live on. Today, even the Rada’s court does not control this power.
      But Russia has something to think about and it is necessary to think quickly. To pretend that what is happening in Ukraine does not concern us will fail.
    6. Svetlana
      Svetlana 24 February 2014 13: 35
      +4
      Everyone needs to think always. What the fascists will think is somehow not shaking, it is their problem that there is no money. Let Europe beg, beggars worthless, just what they are going to give is not clear. But this is also their problem. But our president now needs to think very carefully about what to do in this situation with the maximum benefit for Russia, so that new blood does not spill, because in any case Russia will be to blame if again there are victims. If you can not do without them, then they should be minimal, otherwise the screech will be the whole world. Crimea must be annexed to Russia at all costs, but it is necessary to figure out how to do this with a minimum of losses with maximum success. And you need to think quickly, until Bandera broke through to the Southeast.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 24 February 2014 17: 35
        0
        Quote: Svetlana
        But our president now needs to think very carefully about what to do in this situation.

        No offense)). At 10 years old I guessed that all astronomers -..., because they don’t realize that there could be undiscovered planets on the other side of the Earth)). He drew all this and sent ... somewhere.
        Our president thinks)).
        Moreover, most often, before we learn about such a need)).
        For which they do not like him ... many)).
    7. jjj
      jjj 24 February 2014 14: 37
      0
      Quote: Chicot 1
      then the new authorities of Ukraine should think about how and in what way they will build their relations with Russia

      And they are already starting to stretch out their hand for alms, by the mouth of the new named president, guaranteeing the establishment of relations
  • serge
    serge 24 February 2014 11: 50
    +18
    If we surrender Ukraine (and this is happening), then the next goal is Russia. You won’t have to wait long.
    1. mivmim
      mivmim 24 February 2014 13: 15
      0
      Quote: serge
      If we surrender Ukraine (and this is happening), then the next goal is Russia. You won’t have to wait long.

      We have already tried it in Russia, it did not work out. They decided to simply stir up Ukraine, so as not to sit idle. laughing
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  • nemec55
    nemec55 24 February 2014 11: 52
    +7
    Euro-Ukrainians ", or What should the GDP think about?

    This is a big hemorrhoid on the body of Russia, the further you pull, the more you have to cut.
  • smel
    smel 24 February 2014 11: 52
    +5
    MINUS article. Although the article is well thought out, it is more provocative than deeply analytical
  • Sour
    Sour 24 February 2014 11: 53
    +15
    The author distorts other people's words.
    American politicians directly say that in Ukraine they are testing the technology for changing power in Russia. (Mr. Kissinger, if anyone is interested.)

    Kissinger does not say this on his own, he ascribes it to Putin.
    http://inotv.rt.com/2014-02-02/Kissindzher-Russkie-ne-mogut-bezrazlichno
    But I have never heard or read that Putin said so.
    Put a minus. The article is hysterical and cowardly. Already tired of these snot-screams: "Today they captured Ukraine, and tomorrow they will get to Russia !!!" It's not worth our price if we are afraid of any intrigues there. And I'm tired of the chatter that "we are losing Ukraine." We have lost it for 22 years already, and some have just realized it.
    1. mountain
      mountain 24 February 2014 13: 33
      +1
      I agree with you, 22 years old, as she is not among the comrades and partners. Article minus, let the enemies boiling water, pour, as if they were not asked for their interference in the sovereignty of another country. But by their actions, they completely untied Russia’s hands.
    2. major071
      major071 24 February 2014 13: 42
      +12
      You + hi
      The article is really from the category "everything is lost".
      And as for Russia, this is how we went through it in the 90s, and unlike modern Ukraine, we had wars on our territory, although they were called CTOs. It's just that Ukraine has never been shaken so much during its independence, they don't know what war is. Now they will find out. And sobering up will come quickly, and tomorrow half of those who yelled on the Maidan "Russia - get out!" Will ask for help from us to free themselves from nationalists.
      And as for Putin, I’ll say this - he’s a smart man, and believe it or not, but when he feels that it’s time to leave, he will provide his successor, whom he may be preparing quietly. You can hate Putin, you can admire him, but the fact that he is a visionary politician, you can not argue with that. And who knows what cockroaches in his head? This is unknown to us! what
      1. mountain
        mountain 24 February 2014 15: 15
        +3
        I'm not sure that your appeal is to me, but I will venture to answer. Putin V.V. the president of my country and I respect him, I'm not sure that there is at least one other person who is capable of competing with V.V.P. Moreover, he has long known what to do with Ukraine and his actions will not be spontaneous. Today, all the trump cards in his hands.
        1. major071
          major071 24 February 2014 16: 22
          +6
          Missed a bit, it's me Kisloma. But also a plus to you for believing. hi
        2. Ivan.
          Ivan. 24 February 2014 16: 52
          0
          Quote: mountain
          I'm not sure that your appeal is to me, but I will venture to answer.

          It would be time to learn how to click on the arrows, he really did not appeal to you. I also note for the sake of fairness that there are no explanations in the tips about this and I also did not understand the structure of comments for a long time.
        3. BIC
          BIC 24 February 2014 20: 55
          0
          I'd love to believe.
    3. demel2
      demel2 24 February 2014 18: 22
      0
      Quote: Sour
      We have already lost it for 22 years, and some have just come to our senses.

      I also think so, but if they start cutting the Russians, what are we going to sit like?
    4. BIC
      BIC 24 February 2014 20: 52
      0
      Totally agree with you.
  • Stiletto
    Stiletto 24 February 2014 11: 53
    +16
    However, the time will come, and the Ukrainians themselves will still hang up their "leaders" on the pillars. Klitschko, as a sportsman, of course, is a pity, but he turned out to be rotten, and on that he got burned.
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 24 February 2014 12: 04
      +11
      Quote: Stiletto
      Klitschko, as a sportsman, of course, is sorry

      And to me personally, no. The Moor has done his work, the Moor must ...
      1. mivmim
        mivmim 24 February 2014 13: 10
        +2
        I will add: the Moor must ... die.
      2. Kunar
        Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 15
        +1
        Moreover, life .... laughing
    2. Manager
      Manager 24 February 2014 12: 51
      +5
      Quote: Stiletto
      personally, as a sportsman, of course, I'm sorry,

      This goose has long been living in Germany. So goose rotted for a long time. Pity him is not worth it.
      1. Povit
        Povit 25 February 2014 00: 39
        0
        he is not a goose, but a goat
    3. Arhj
      Arhj 24 February 2014 13: 17
      +1
      Quote: Stiletto
      However, the time will come, and the Ukrainians themselves will still hang up their "leaders" on the pillars.

      It will be so if caught, but with clarification. Ukraine now has no leaders who can unite the country, and Yatsenyuk and Co. are one-time leaders, and they represent the interests of narrow groups, but by no means the interests of Ukraine. I’m just afraid that by the time it comes to pulling up, the procedure itself will be in the nature of moral compensation, since they will have time to do their job.
      1. Kunar
        Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 16
        0
        Tymoshennitsa - does not count .....
        1. olviko
          olviko 24 February 2014 17: 01
          0
          "Tymoshenko is not counted .."

          Of all the maidan, only Roe deer is acceptable to Putin as a partner in the negotiations, because she is not smeared in the blood of the military. The rest are likely to cause a feeling of disgust in GDP.
    4. military
      military 24 February 2014 15: 39
      +1
      Quote: Stiletto
      Klitschko, of course, is a pity as a sportsman, but he turned out to be rotten, and he got burnt.

      rather, dumb ... the costs of a sports career ... he knocked on his turnips for a long time and quite specifically ...
  • Tuzik
    Tuzik 24 February 2014 11: 54
    +12
    if Bendera and nationalists come to power, you need to do a visa regime and trade relations (including gas and fuel prices) like with a geyropa.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 24 February 2014 15: 45
      +2
      Quote: Tuzik
      if Bendera and nationalists come to power, you need to do a visa regime and trade relations (including gas and fuel prices) like with a geyropa.

      This is a minimum of lows. If it were my will, from tomorrow I would completely cut off all ties and the economy, and even embassies would turn off and much more including support for at least the Crimea and the surrounding areas, and if the geyropa gets pounded I would recall to it 1939-1945 and with whom we fought I would blame by presenting a long list to them, including himself, and he is huge. And then protoukry will boil in their own juice quickly and therefore humanely!
  • Isk1984
    Isk1984 24 February 2014 11: 54
    +8
    Yes, guys, as if some Vladimir Vladimirovich did not praise, but we do not have a balanced and well-thought-out foreign policy, I already wrote that we had rare bastards in Ukraine who could only lobby for their interests, we lost Ukraine back in 1991, when we allowed The Bialowieza Agreement, but I know one thing With Putin or without Putin, but we will restore, no matter how, Bendera’s howl, OUR COUNTRY ... You can’t squeeze the Russo-Soviet spring like that, it will be lifted up and all the Maidans will blow its head off to Washington hawks ...
    Well, here they can’t live and work quietly, so the cap system requires sacrifice .... now the vile times have come ..
    1. Syrdon
      Syrdon 24 February 2014 12: 18
      +4
      the fact is that high-level politicians in Russia were well aware that in Ukraine there was no one to negotiate with. All the promise is empty sounds and pretexts for pumping money from us. In return, after receiving the money, a reversal towards the EU and Amer. So is it worth it to keep sensible there if it still makes no sense. The abscess had to open itself, it opened. Now it's a matter of time. GDP is a master of complex combinations and he thinks already at a strategic level. I am sure that such an outcome was calculated as the moves. We wait.
      1. Suhov
        Suhov 24 February 2014 15: 11
        +2
        The abscess had to open itself, it opened. Now it's a matter of time. GDP is a master of complex combinations and he thinks already at a strategic level. I am sure that such an outcome was calculated as the moves. We wait.

        From the point of view of medicine, the events in Ukraine are a vaccine for Russia.
        Painfully.
        People died.
        Here it is - the price of betrayal of the "guarantor".
        But feat of golden eagle clearly showed that there is immunity.
        We need a Leader who will ensure the functioning of the "immune system".
        1. Syrdon
          Syrdon 24 February 2014 15: 46
          +1
          And thank God for us he is. Another thing, what will happen after him? Enemies are silent and waiting, they write, Putin is not eternal. So they are waiting for someone weaker in order to tear us apart as Ukraine, we already have a 5th column.
          1. Suhov
            Suhov 24 February 2014 18: 01
            0
            Quote: Syrdon
            Another thing, what will happen after him?

            We need a system of laws that should guarantee the work of public authorities in the interests of their own people.
            Regardless of who is at the levers of power, state bodies worked in the interests of their state.
            The legal system should clearly identify the employee’s work:
            yours is a stranger
            patriot is a criminal
            and pushed traitors.
            In short, even if desired, the official could not harm his people.
            hi
  • Mhpv
    Mhpv 24 February 2014 11: 59
    +9
    A woman with a scythe has parted. This is how the "revolutionaries" already meet her
    1. Makarov
      Makarov 24 February 2014 12: 15
      0
      after the "Maidan" has threatened the "opposition" and "Yulia" with political reprisals, the southeast becomes more inclined towards them ... a fucking move
      1. 222222
        222222 24 February 2014 12: 41
        +2
        Quote: Makarov
        after the "Maidan" has threatened the "opposition" and "Yulia" with political reprisals, the southeast becomes more inclined towards them ... a fucking move

        .. "Horseradish radish is not sweeter" ..
    2. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 24 February 2014 15: 43
      0
      A woman with a scythe has parted. This is how the "revolutionaries" already meet her
      And why is the text on the leaflets in Russian?
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 24 February 2014 15: 54
        +1
        And you ask them.
        Why does the same Klychko or Tyagnyubok and all this Shapito speak Russian often from the stands?
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  • Pastor
    Pastor 24 February 2014 12: 00
    +10
    Tymoshenko refused to premiership .. all right, this is not enough for her, she wants to be president ..
    all of them, Yanykins, Timoshenkovs and other figures are decoy ducks of the oligarchs, far from the people ..
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 February 2014 12: 16
      +7
      Quote: WASTOR
      Tymoshenko refused to premiership .. all right, this is not enough for her, she wants to be president ..

      She didn’t expect such a reaction to her appearance - she decided to wait!
      I repeat my post again
      Protesters on the Maidan today held a protest against the return of former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko to politics.

      According to the protesters, they stood and achieved victory not for Tymoshenko and not for her return to politics, but for changing the entire system of government.

      They also put forward a number of requirements for politicians:

      • dismiss Raisa Bogatyreva from the post of Minister of Health and appoint Olga Bogomolets in her place (Well done)
      • immediately release all political prisoners, track down missing persons and disband the Golden Eagle (And here the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs hesitated - there are many obvious criminals, and the Golden Eagle can still come in handy)
      • NEW professional people should be the prime minister, members of the government and the head of BP (How new? And where is Senya and Co.? But what about pastor Turchinov?)
      • adoption of the anti-corruption law, the law on lustration and the declaration of income (also show them the income !!!)
      • urgent reform of local government
      • the appointment of mayoral elections in Kharkov and Kiev and early elections to the Verkhovna Rada according to the proportional system along with the presidential (What is it? To leave all the present? And what were we fighting for?)
      • Ratification of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court
      • daily briefing by the spokesman for the transitional and new governments
      • reform
      • criminal liability for button press (Well this must be necessary at the sessions !!!)
      • openness and public accessibility of all authorities
      • State program to support the families of the dead and injured on the Maidan, the creation of charity fund in the Verkhovna Rada for depositing personal funds of deputies (Guard! Rob!)
      • ban on festive concerts on Maidan (But what about Ruslana? And how then to promote initiative with memory? And how to show the culture and happiness of the people?)
      XXXX
      This is where the Russian Federation can play - it does not control the Oppa Maidan, does not fulfill its signed obligations, and we are starting over again! hi

      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 24 February 2014 12: 27
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        • criminal liability for button-pushing (Well this must be necessary at the sessions !!!)

        And they themselves sit and crush these buttons for themselves and that guy! laughing
        And they will have to pass a law on the legalization of same-sex marriages because they can’t be allowed into the EU, but what about ultrics? Or fight further and then the EU and America will destroy them or lubricate the big nerve and have fun.
        And juvenile justice, which will deprive the same Natsik children of their views or again the destruction of Natsik.
        ETC. etc.
      2. 222222
        222222 24 February 2014 12: 40
        +2
        And where:
        - vidmіna (cancellation) of incompleteness (not touching) of "people's" deputies
        - cancellation of deputy privileges
        - reducing the budget for the Rada ...
        Photo report from the house of the Prosecutor General ... house museum .. and Why did he need this?
        http://4ubuk.blogspot.se/2014/02/blog-post_23.html
      3. Kunar
        Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 20
        0
        Oil after heart)))) A reference can be?
      4. CTEPX
        CTEPX 24 February 2014 17: 48
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        This is where the Russian Federation can play - it does not control the Oppa Maidan, does not fulfill its signed obligations, and we are starting over again!

        Alas, the game is not at all about who will be in the government. The Anglo-Saxons need an all-against-all dump in Ukraine + an uncontrolled influx of militants. And they will get it (the dump). If Putin does not outplay.
    2. Arhj
      Arhj 24 February 2014 13: 25
      +6
      Tymoshenko imagined herself as an expert on the Maidan, and the Maidan turned out to be completely different from that in 2004. I then thought it was a sinful thing, but the "opposition" thought where to run if the Maidan was finally unraveled. There is no way to break through the western regions, and the nearest border to Kiev is Belarusian and Russian. As the saying goes: "Welcom ..", we miss you ...
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 24 February 2014 15: 50
        0
        I then thought it was a sinful thing, but the "opposition" thought where to run if the Maidan was finally unraveled.
        But this, as they say, is the most interesting, this Maidan is not a protest, this is work. How many people feed on it, so we are waiting for the development of events. Logically, liberals are next in turn, only whom will they take to the streets to defend themselves against the Maidan? hi
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  • Horn
    Horn 24 February 2014 12: 01
    +7
    The people, encouraged by the prospect of entering a better life (without corruption, kickbacks, nepotism, gang violence, the arbitrariness of officials, theft of the elite, etc.)

    - How is it in Bosnia, Herzegovina, Bulgaria ...?
  • yashka12007
    yashka12007 24 February 2014 12: 11
    +9
    And on .... we need shitty Ukrainian goods. Russia itself can produce anything, why do we need a competitor in the foreign and domestic markets and why our gas is being consumed? We will be honest for FREE, and now we will be disconnected not after 3 but 2 months of debt.
  • prousakov
    prousakov 24 February 2014 12: 12
    0
    The alarmist article.
  • Partizan
    Partizan 24 February 2014 12: 16
    +2
    Yanukovych is offered to sign a charter with European integrators ... People, encouraged by the prospect of entering a better life (without corruption, kickbacks, nepotism, outrage, lawlessness of officials, theft of the elite, etc.) for some reason

    Yeah, now all this will disappear from you, immediately, as if by magic.
    Is the "people" so naive?
  • sined0707
    sined0707 24 February 2014 12: 20
    +10
    This country has fallen, trampled on its west. Very sorry. that at 92 parents did not return to the Kuban, but remained in Kiev.
    1. smel
      smel 24 February 2014 12: 30
      +7
      And my mother managed to leave in 93. Lucky. It is a pity for friends, acquaintances and relatives remaining in Ukraine. Yes, and a pity story !!! Much has been done together by our ancestors ... Now here are the geyropeytsy take advantage
    2. Orik
      Orik 24 February 2014 13: 37
      +1
      Quote: sined0707
      This country has fallen, trampled on its west. Very sorry. that at 92 parents did not return to the Kuban, but remained in Kiev.

      Wait, everything will work out, but for now, you need to look for a company to survive in turbulent periods alone.
    3. CTEPX
      CTEPX 24 February 2014 17: 52
      0
      Quote: sined0707
      This country has fallen, its west has trampled.

      Do not rush to bury us. It will also be good in Siberia and Ukraine).
  • kontrol
    kontrol 24 February 2014 12: 21
    -3
    author alarmist
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 24 February 2014 13: 15
      +2
      Quote: kontrol
      author alarmist


      On the contrary! The author is an optimist.
      1. BIC
        BIC 24 February 2014 21: 10
        0
        Even so!!!!
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 24 February 2014 12: 23
    +6
    The author scares us with the third world war, which the West will allegedly impose on us if we do not obey. In my opinion, both in Europe and the United States the gut is the first to launch nuclear missiles, for this will mean the collapse of their full bourgeois life, since they foolishly hope that no answer will follow from us, we have not yet turned into Equatorial Guinea.
    1. Partizan
      Partizan 24 February 2014 12: 28
      0
      Well, they sent one frigate with anti-aircraft Aegis to the Mediterranean Sea, that's it, the problem is finit, the "answer" like they will shoot down. bully
      1. Kunar
        Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 26
        0
        This is called "designate presence" laughing
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    3. CTEPX
      CTEPX 24 February 2014 17: 56
      0
      Quote: Dimy4
      the gut is the first to launch nuclear missiles

      Here Ukraine, bad - poor, has an army, abruptly, perhaps, the Syrian)). And what helps ... give an answer?))

      Today third world. She is different.
  • Asketxnumx
    Asketxnumx 24 February 2014 12: 31
    +22
    I was born and raised in Ukraine. Communicated with zapadentsev enough. They always hated the East. And it doesn’t matter at all who is right and who is to blame. While there was at least some kind of power, this abscess was mature. And now he has broken through.
    Never again will Ukraine be within its former borders. The section is inevitable and logical.
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 24 February 2014 13: 30
      +3
      It seems to me that in Ukraine itself, a good half of the population does not doubt the collapse of the country, although I do not argue that I can be wrong, because I do not live in Ukraine. But if the decay occurs, I would very much like to have no blood. That’s scary.
  • Naum
    Naum 24 February 2014 12: 32
    +3
    Quote: Chicot 1
    it is not necessary to think about GDP, but "maydanuty

    Everyone needs to think! I. Thinking, draw appropriate conclusions and make the right decisions. I suppose that a real step in Russia in the near future will be a decision to stop gas supplies to Ukraine before it pays debts for previously consumed gas. This is something under $ 5 billion. Only Americans will save, who have already paid this full-time maidan. Let them pay further!
    1. Orik
      Orik 24 February 2014 13: 40
      -2
      Quote: Naum
      Quote: Chicot 1
      it is not necessary to think about GDP, but "maydanuty

      Everyone needs to think! I. Thinking, draw appropriate conclusions and make the right decisions. I suppose that a real step in Russia in the near future will be a decision to stop gas supplies to Ukraine before it pays debts for previously consumed gas. This is something under $ 5 billion. Only Americans will save, who have already paid this full-time maidan. Let them pay further!

      What are you? Do you know that we can supply 30% of gas to Geyropu only through the Ukrainian gas transportation system before the commissioning of the UP in 2015? There is also the southern part of the Druzhba pipeline, which runs through the western regions. Imagine a smart guy what will happen if these incomes fall out ...
      1. Kunar
        Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 28
        0
        This is the problem of the Indians ... Counter at the border, and PPC
      2. Gecko
        Gecko 24 February 2014 18: 18
        0
        This will be a signal to Europe, even if it doesn’t hit on the south stream, it turns out it is needed.
  • vlad_pr
    vlad_pr 24 February 2014 12: 33
    +3
    Quote: Chicot 1
    In my humble opinion, it is not Putin who should think about something there, this is the new authorities of Ukraine should think about how and in what way they will build their relations with Russia and its authorities in the person of President Putin. And they will have to be built

    Those who have broken through to power will not think about anything, they have a direction for action, the essence of which is "Russia is the enemy ...", and they will fulfill this sacredly, in full. Ukraine, by this logic, is an outpost of confrontation with Russia (my personal opinion. Best regards.
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 24 February 2014 13: 21
      +3
      Quote: vlad_pr
      Those who have broken through to power will not think about anything, they have a direction for action, the essence of which is "Russia is the enemy ..", and they will fulfill this sacredly, in full

      Hunger and cold are very good teachers of prudence ...
      Quote: vlad_pr
      Ukraine, according to this logic, is an outpost of Russia's confrontation (my personal opinion

      ... also these teachers are very good at dropping arrogance and vanity ...
      Quote: vlad_pr
      Best regards

      Mutually, Vladislav hi And with the past you drinks
    2. Kunar
      Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 32
      +1
      Blind cossack-bobache ... The populist fighters of the Tymoshenko and other scum did not ride ... But the fascists and without the Russian Federation crush (ZOG does not sleep laughing ) .Main thing, to defend the Russian part of Ukraine, and here our help is absolutely necessary.
  • Fin
    Fin 24 February 2014 12: 34
    -1
    The hook on which Russia hung in its flight to the abyss is unbent. Slowly and inexorably.

    In the pancake, nostradamus got out one more.
  • Kustanayets
    Kustanayets 24 February 2014 12: 43
    +9
    To equate in the Criminal Code of Kazakhstan and Russia incendiary mixtures with grenades and explosive materials. And legally shoot plankton with bottles or wrap both storage grenades and terrorism.
    1. Lindon
      Lindon 24 February 2014 13: 16
      +7
      In Kazakhstan, even from Zhanaozen, long ago, even stones were equated with grenades.
      The situation was already there - the cops were beaten, their bus was burned - they returned to the barracks, uncovered the machine guns and started shooting. When other security forces from all regions pulled themselves up, there were no one on the streets. They gave orders to shoot without hesitation - everything is according to the law.
  • Pushkar
    Pushkar 24 February 2014 12: 43
    0
    "Chef, the truncated is gone, the plaster is being removed!" (brief retelling of the article)
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 24 February 2014 23: 30
      0
      Quote: Pushkar
      "Chef, the truncated is gone, the plaster is being removed!" (brief retelling of the article)

      Well, the duck loot ends, but Russia did not succeed, that’s where the Westerners piss with boiling water.
  • Cristall
    Cristall 24 February 2014 12: 44
    +8
    Quote: Egoza
    They also put forward a number of requirements for politicians:

    Well, yes .. of course, what they promised the bulk - no one will do. What for? Although they can promise in three boxes - they say, disperse, and then we will destroy ourselves, divide so to speak
    How many people said, that the slogan Gang get - well, you drive the gang, what will you do next? Well, think, happiness will fall from heaven .... the only argument is Ganbaa .. get'a gang ..
    My opinion - people (the main part that opposed Janus and corruption) will be thrown. Do not throw only Bendera. They will plant their people - they will promote the idea that the previous prezik is to blame for everything (we are not robbing then he is) and, as usual, the northern neighbor makes it difficult to feel free ... Russia will score all together in Kiev - but they have nothing to lose-- ass and heroes and so was bald ...
  • Sour
    Sour 24 February 2014 12: 48
    +4
    Mark my word - the "orange" ones will gnaw each other a hundred times. Will share power and Western handouts.
    And in general, nothing has been finished in Ukraine, the most interesting is yet to come. The country has a huge currency balance deficit. The EU plans to allocate them 20 billion euros, but this is only a delay in decoupling. One-time help will do nothing. A simple calculation shows that Ukraine kept afloat, it is necessary to give it (and not on loan, but for nothing) about 15 billion dollars annually. And forgive them all the old debts. But even this is not enough if Ukraine will introduce European standards in industry and agriculture, in case of association with the EU. In fact, the EU and the US should fully take Ukraine into maintenance, and not be limited to one-time help.
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 24 February 2014 13: 34
      +1
      Quote: Sour
      Mark my word - the "orange" ones will gnaw at each other a hundred times.

      The law of any revolution is to first gnaw at power, then to each other. Only the browns will eat the oranges before, and then they will decide among themselves which fascism is more correct.
  • Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 24 February 2014 12: 54
    +7
    The devastation has already come ...

    A brief history of Ukrainian presidents ...

    Well, it looks like her future ...
    1. Kunar
      Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 37
      0
      Well, this is the KZV vegetable ...... She needs to sit there ... And then the second time through decriminalization he will jump out .... Che for the Criminal Code of Ukrainians belay
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 24 February 2014 17: 00
      0
      Quote: Novel 1977
      The devastation has already come ...

      Well, Roman didn’t drag out sourly. +++
  • Yutas
    Yutas 24 February 2014 12: 54
    +5
    It seems to me, friends, everyone missed one thought. Putin is not eternal - it is a fact. It can be treated differently, but the fact that at the moment he is really a strong leader is difficult to dispute. But who will be after him? This is not the first time I have wondered such a thought, but I can’t find a convincing answer .... Two candidates are in my head, but one is military, the second is still young from Moscow ...
    The fact that Ukraine no longer exists - alas, it happened. And most likely, it will split - the contradictions between its western part and the southeast are too strong. It is necessary to "be able" to pump such a state. And now it's time for us to think about possible internal problems. I am sure that this will not happen again with us.
    1. Sour
      Sour 24 February 2014 12: 57
      +1
      Quote: Yutas
      And most likely, it will be divided - the contradictions between its western part and the southeast are too strong

      It is very doubtful that it will split.
      In the east of Ukraine, there are people who want to marry against Bandera, but they do not see anyone who wants to fight them. And you won’t achieve anything by grumbling.
      In any case, while the situation is just that.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 24 February 2014 13: 21
        0
        Quote: Sour
        In the east of Ukraine, there are people who want to marry against Bandera, but they do not see anyone who wants to fight them. And you won’t achieve anything by grumbling.


        Donbass. Lugansk. Do not be so categorical.
      2. Kunar
        Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 39
        0
        A month without salaries and pensions and Maidan children's matinee seem ....
    2. Partizan
      Partizan 24 February 2014 14: 46
      +2
      Quote: Yutas
      ... a young man from Moscow ...

      how national is that, huh? Podmoskovets ...
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  • pts-m
    pts-m 24 February 2014 12: 55
    +4
    it is correctly said, “how much Ukrainians do not feed, but he is looking into the woods.” and the wise words of L. Tolstoy ... “the one for whom you have done good is the one who pours the most dirt” ... confirm this!
  • Rabic
    Rabic 24 February 2014 12: 55
    +2
    The events in Ukraine have shown what will happen if the authorities are afflicted with corruption and follow the lead of the radicals. A very good lesson for both the Russian government and Russian nationalists. Therefore, these "peaceful" protesters must be put on bunks in a planned and merciless manner. In Europe and the USA, they do not stand on ceremony with such and do the right thing.
  • rassel0889
    rassel0889 24 February 2014 12: 58
    +4
    In St. Petersburg, they detained a cow who burned tires in support of the Maidan! It just doesn’t fit into any framework, where do these imbeciles come from! I would strictly ask them in advance for such a thing! better than waiting when they start to burn them in red square ...
  • Mhpv
    Mhpv 24 February 2014 12: 59
    +7
    And why Tyagniubok with his slogans is silent about Tymoshenko?

    And what kind of Ukrainian is Arsen Avakov:
    Born 2 January 1964 year in the village of them. Kirov (Kirovsky district, currently - Binagadi district) Baku (Azerbaijan SSR) in the family of a military man. By nationality - Armenian [4].

    Is Klitschko straight pure Ukrainian?
    Mom Vladimir Rodionovich and the grandmother of world famous boxers - a native of Smela Cherkasy region Tamara Efimovna Klitschko (nee Etinson). Shortly before the war, Tamara graduated from the Korsun teacher training school and was distributed by an elementary school teacher to a school in the village of Vilshany. There she met Rodion Klitschko. Soon the lovers got married and settled in Smela with their Tamarin parents.

    In May 1941, Rodion Klitschko was sent to Dnepropetrovsk for courses for senior staff, and his wife and son went on vacation to their parents in Smela. There they found war.
    Soon, the Nazis occupied Boldness, and Rodion for many months, at the risk of his life, hid a Jewish wife in the underground, whose relatives died at the hands of the Nazis. After the war, as the former in the occupation, Rodion and Tamara were exiled to Kazakhstan, where their son Vladimir was born.
    http://www.courier.co.il/?id=2242

    In general, who would mumble about the role of Russians in Ukraine.
    1. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 24 February 2014 14: 05
      +3
      Quote: mhpv
      And why Tyagniubok with his slogans is silent about Tymoshenko?

      Here is the answer to your question.
      Particular attention is paid to the ethnic origin of Tyagnibok.
      As a starting point, bloggers refer to the dm_matveev journal entry dated Dmitry August 28, 2009.
      “At one of the Ukrainian forums there was information that the main Ukrainian nationalist Oleg Tyagnibok is a Jew. The forum administration has blocked viewing this topic. Nevertheless, this information is present in another forum, as well as in the cache of Google and Yandex.
      On the forum forum.fraza.ua this information has the following form:
      “... today I learned from reliable sources that Tyagnibok, it turns out, is also a Jew! The maiden name of his grandmother is Frothman ... ”, the report said.
      The surname Frotman is quite common among Ukrainian Jews. For example, one of the deputies of the Simferopol City Council is Boris Frotman. Member of the faction "Block" For Yanukovych! "
      Earlier, the chairman of the European Jewish Congress, an Israeli citizen, Igor Kolomoisky, officially recognized the fact of regular financing of Freedom.
      http://mediton.livejournal.com/53003.html
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 24 February 2014 14: 15
        +4
        Thanks for the info. I could not find it, but something in my heart told me about it. There, on Wikipedia, many Ukrainians. Politicians, the biography is clearly redone.
        It’s interesting, but does Yarosh know with whom in check or from the charitable himself too?
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 24 February 2014 17: 06
          0
          Quote: mhpv
          Thanks for the info. I could not find it, but something in my heart told me about it. There, on Wikipedia, many Ukrainians. Politicians, the biography is clearly redone.
          It’s interesting, but does Yarosh know with whom in check or from the charitable himself too?

          Zion sages work well.
  • platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 24 February 2014 13: 01
    +7
    gentlemen, Russia is not Ukraine in the first place. Ukraine is where marginal people constantly come to power and do only what the people are robbed of, this is the second. Third, if the government supports terrorists, it’s not power, in the west Bender’s fascists, in the Crimea, Hisbut Tahrir, which is banned all over the world and stop scaring NATO, the United States has broken the scarecrow, they want to let the war come, or the Americans are warning Russia not thought out actions. When it is necessary then and we are leading troops, we will not ask the United States, we were led to Georgia and that they were wheeled as victims and shut up.
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 24 February 2014 14: 21
      -1
      Fine. You are the president of Russia.
    2. Partizan
      Partizan 24 February 2014 14: 52
      0
      troops were not brought into Georgia, but it would have been necessary, but - the Americans said - no way!
  • DPN
    DPN 24 February 2014 13: 04
    +5
    Quote: Chicot 1
    (Europe does not need Ukrainian goods at x ... east, they have enough of their own good),

    They also talked about the Balts, but they live on pohren, they protect the borders of NATO and we buy products from them. The same will be with Ukraine, we will not go anywhere.
    It is necessary to feed and equip the RUSSIAN PEOPLE, the rest is only surplus and necessary. And what happens (our millionaires, mayors and higher ones settle down over the hill for permanent residence), they calmly ripping off the people, take everything out to their new ZABOREGNAYA homeland.
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 24 February 2014 15: 29
      0
      Quote: DPN
      we buy products from them

      The fact of the matter is that we, not Europe ... Yes, and how much do we buy it? ..
      Quote: DPN
      we're not going anywhere

      We won’t go anywhere. It is a fact. The question is - where will Ukraine go? ..
      Quote: DPN
      And what happens (our millionaires, mayors and higher ones settle down over the hill for permanent residence), they calmly ripping off the people, take everything out to their new ZABOREGNAYA homeland

      And you, dear DPN, are you calling for revolution in any way? ..
    2. Kunar
      Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 44
      0
      But this is a burning issue. Introduce a ban on deputy for people with dual (triple) citizenship.
  • Yaroslav
    Yaroslav 24 February 2014 13: 07
    +1
    I think this is not the end. The East has not yet said its firm "I". The Olympics are over, so our leadership will focus on Ukraine and, together with the East, will come to peace and harmony in a country burning from bandits.
    P.S. It’s a pity that you can’t do without victims.
    1. Kunar
      Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 54
      0
      Yeah, they cut logs, chips fly ... We don’t play spools .... PPC negative
  • Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 24 February 2014 13: 08
    +11

    Meanwhile, in Europe ...

    Serbian fans unfurled several banners, which read: “Ukrainian brothers, while you are shedding Orthodox blood, the devils in the West grin and rub their hands. Think about it".
    Here is what Dragan Stanojevic, president of the world Serbian diaspora said on this occasion: “Serbian fans want to warn the Ukrainian people with this appeal, because we, the Serbs, already passed through these turns when our“ revolution ”won, and the Serbs were euphoric that everything immediately will improve, and Europe will certainly help. As a result, only Europe became better, and the people of Serbia only got worse. ”
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 24 February 2014 15: 04
      +4
      "Odessa and Moscow are one family! Yesterday's march in Odessa


      But this is Sevastopol yesterday:


      But such cards have already begun to draw the Poles. Please note: Odessa-Romanian ...
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 24 February 2014 17: 07
        0
        Quote: Novel 1977
        But such cards have already begun to draw the Poles. Please note: Odessa-Romanian ...

        Bastards share the skin of a bear.
      2. 31231
        31231 24 February 2014 20: 34
        0
        Maidanyat will now announce that they are state employees and agents of the Kremlin.
        Svidomye think that only they are sincere and incorruptible.
      3. 222222
        222222 24 February 2014 22: 29
        +1
        Pay attention: Odessa-Romanian ... ". And hu ho to Romanians NOT ho ho? 7
        about 10 years ago he walked in the field with a dog .. returned home, walked past the construction site .. An excavator dug up the bones of a Romanian soldier .. He died in the Second World War .. also wanted Odessa ..
  • Havoc
    Havoc 24 February 2014 13: 08
    +1
    The chain of events doesn't line up. After all, while the Kremlin's "mediocre" policy is visible, one gets the impression that our authorities are waiting, only the question of what. Putin is not the kind of person who loses so easily, just how he managed the situation in Syria says a lot. It seems to me "it's not over yet." Probably all the same there is some kind of a trump card in the sleeve, I would like to believe in it.
    1. russia_vp
      russia_vp 24 February 2014 13: 39
      -3
      And where did you get that Kremlin policy is mediocre? It’s incompetent from your hamster’s vision, and in Russia, whole institutes are engaged in analytics. Do you really consider yourself smarter than those who have been engaged in geopolitics all their lives?
      1. Kunar
        Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 57
        +2
        Previously, it was not institutes that dealt with geopolitics, but the international department of the Central Committee and the analytical departments of the GRU, KGB, and KNK))))) hi
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  • russia_vp
    russia_vp 24 February 2014 13: 09
    -6
    Now, if Putin begins to tinker with the new fascist government, this will mean its recognition by Russia. Then the Crimea, Kharkov and other cities that declared their non-recognition of the Rada, are outlawed?

    Now everything depends on how Putin behaves. If he supported Yanukovych and did not recognize the power of the fascists, then dual power would be established in Ukraine and one could work further to restore constitutional order.

    Fascist authorities may not bother the southeast of Ukraine until Putin has declared his position. If Putin recognizes the new government, then it will have the right to use force to, as they call it, seperatist regions. And that power will be legitimate.

    I suspect that Putin will cooperate with the Nazis, and the southeastern regions will slowly crush and will be like in the Baltic states.
    1. lestad
      lestad 24 February 2014 14: 01
      0
      spit three times and knock on wood
    2. Kunar
      Kunar 24 February 2014 15: 59
      0
      Once again ... Let the power first appear.
    3. Setrac
      Setrac 25 February 2014 00: 00
      0
      Quote: russia_vp
      I suspect that Putin will cooperate with the Nazis, and the southeastern regions will slowly crush and will be like in the Baltic states.

      Does the phrase "run over" mean that there is someone resisting?
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 24 February 2014 13: 10
    +2
    Yes, nifiga is not over. And not so digested. Now the people will begin to understand where he is stuck, we will explain to him popularly ... I will not say that this will be this year, but Ukraine will return to us.
  • Stinger
    Stinger 24 February 2014 13: 18
    +3
    It seems to me that Putin has nothing to think about. He spoke out quite definitely. The work of saving the drowning is the work of the hands of the drowning. The task is who to help swim out and who to drown by handing a life buoy or kettlebell. As for the chatter about the use of force, it is possible only in one case - a direct armed attack on the Black Sea Fleet.
    1. Kunar
      Kunar 24 February 2014 16: 01
      +1
      So the blow to the Black Sea Fleet is directed. There, it seems, some kind of lease agreement .... True Yusch tried to denounce it ... It turned out sideways
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    1. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 24 February 2014 13: 44
      +1
      We have a lot of our own .. Pussi Rayot, Kasparov, Akunin, Udaltsov ........... as well as brainless old women who put pots on their heads and scream! God forbid, our minds are ruled out not to allow Maidan!
      1. Kunar
        Kunar 24 February 2014 16: 03
        0
        These are clowns .... But I will wish strength and rigidity to our presidents with all my heart. It's just that the time has come ...
      2. krasin
        krasin 24 February 2014 17: 41
        +1
        Do not harness old women and grandfathers - do not offend !!!!
        .and these bastards - this is clear to everyone.
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  • russia_vp
    russia_vp 24 February 2014 13: 27
    -1
    Putin will not send troops to Ukraine, because then the troops will bring NATO into the western regions. And this is the beginning of the Third World War. Therefore, Putin will quietly merge Ukraine. You will see. Ukrainians themselves must decide their fate. If they can organize disobedience to the fascist authorities, then they may have the right to independence, self-determination and separation from Ukraine. But something I doubt that will come to this. They are not able to stand up for themselves. They can shake their fists, and when it comes to shooting, they will run away, because the local authorities will not give out weapons to the people's militia. And stupidly under the bullets no fools climb. So reconcile yourself and forget about Ukraine for several decades. Living in Europe, she will still stretch some time with the opening of the Ukrainian market.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 24 February 2014 13: 37
      0
      Quote: russia_vp
      Putin will not send troops to Ukraine, because then the troops will bring NATO into the western regions. And this is the beginning of the Third World War. Therefore, Putin will quietly merge Ukraine. You will see. Ukrainians themselves must decide their fate. If they can organize disobedience to the fascist authorities, then they may have the right to independence, self-determination and separation from Ukraine. But something I doubt that will come to this. They are not able to stand up for themselves. They can shake their fists, and when it comes to shooting, they will run away, because the local authorities will not give out weapons to the people's militia. And stupidly under the bullets no fools climb. So reconcile yourself and forget about Ukraine for several decades. Living in Europe, she will still stretch some time with the opening of the Ukrainian market.


      I put "plus", but "minus" comes out - what kind of miracles are in the sieve.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 25 February 2014 00: 03
        0
        Quote: Hudo
        I put "plus", but "minus" comes out - what kind of miracles are in the sieve.

        And I put him a minus, nothing personal, let the nickname change, he is NOT RUSSIA.
    2. Partizan
      Partizan 24 February 2014 15: 07
      +2
      Putin will not send troops to Ukraine, because then the troops will bring NATO into the western regions. And this is the beginning of the Third World War. Therefore, Putin will quietly merge Ukraine.

      This would not be the "start of the Third World War." But Putin will still "quietly merge Ukraine", because the Americans tell him so.
    3. Kunar
      Kunar 24 February 2014 16: 05
      +2
      Grant Russian citizenship to the inhabitants of South-Eastern Ukraine)))) And then as in Ossetia. "Protection of citizens and blah, blah, blah ...))) And a referendum on the right of the people to self-determination. And Bandera-for Sbruch ... And their the same methods.
  • Colonelic
    Colonelic 24 February 2014 13: 28
    +1
    Quote: Asket49
    I was born and raised in Ukraine. Communicated with zapadentsev enough. They always hated the East. And it doesn’t matter at all who is right and who is to blame. While there was at least some kind of power, this abscess was mature. And now he has broken through. Never again will Ukraine be within its former borders. The section is inevitable and logical.
    I agree! In my opinion, this is inevitable ...
    The main thing is how this will happen!
    I am sure that without strong shocks and the shedding of a lot of blood, separation from the western Probander’s part of the territory would be unthinkable.
    These are today's realities ...
    1. russia_vp
      russia_vp 24 February 2014 13: 36
      +2
      Maydanovtsy have armed groups. The army will not intervene, we can hope. By the forces of one militia these detachments cannot be defeated. Weapons to the people's militia will not give. Maydanutye posts will arrive at the block, they will shoot down cops and go to seize buildings in Kiev. If a crowd of militia comes out, they will shoot them down, and then they will be justified by the Rada and will be declared heroes. Southeast can not do anything.
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 24 February 2014 13: 41
        0
        Quote: russia_vp
        Maydanovites have armed units. The army will not intervene, we can hope. The forces of one police force cannot be defeated. Weapons to the militia will not give.

        Luhansk. I will subscribe to every word except for the words about the police - there is practically none. Lugansk "Berkut" left the kuev with a weapon - and everything is already on the run with everything flowing in and out.
        1. russia_vp
          russia_vp 24 February 2014 13: 46
          +7
          I would not be hoping for the local police in the place of the Ukrainians. She can stand to death if people stand next to her shoulder to shoulder. cops are people too, they have families. If they see that the people do not care what is happening in the country, then why will they give their lives for such a people. People should, who have guns, create their own militia units - ARMED, and stand next to the police. But this is possible if the police themselves agree to such a development of the situation. And it turns out that the people will come out with weapons, and they will be arrested on some counts. Here the cops themselves must penetrate the situation.

          But it’s better not to hope for the cops, but to create armed groups themselves, which, in the event of an attack by the Maydanites, will be able to provide armed resistance. It makes no sense to clash with the cops, but you must create detachments without fail, namely armed, mobile ones. And not very ceremonious with the Maidan, but immediately open fire to defeat as soon as they appear in the field of view. Then you can defend your territory.

          , I'm not there...
      2. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 24 February 2014 13: 47
        +5
        Quote: russia_vp
        Maydanovtsy have armed groups. The army will not intervene, we can hope. By the forces of one militia these detachments cannot be defeated. Weapons to the people's militia will not give. Maydanutye posts will arrive at the block, they will shoot down cops and go to seize buildings in Kiev. If a crowd of militia comes out, they will shoot them down, and then they will be justified by the Rada and will be declared heroes. Southeast can not do anything.


        Unfortunately, based on events, I have to agree with you. Passivity, the main enemy of the Russians in the South-East of Ukraine. There are many Russian-speaking consumers and opportunists who are already sympathetic to Kiev, but the working class has been merged, read the comments above about the "Luhansk Guard", where Bandera's people already have their lists: addresses, phone numbers, family members.
        1. Kunar
          Kunar 24 February 2014 16: 11
          0
          So what? They are in their own land ...
  • individual
    individual 24 February 2014 13: 32
    +2
    The state may be different, but not weak.
    Collapse occurs when leaders start playing giveaway.
  • parus2nik
    parus2nik 24 February 2014 13: 37
    +2
    A severe hangover awaits Ukraine .. And Russia, unfortunately, does not learn from the mistakes of others .. Conclusions are unlikely to be made, and if they are, but not the right ones ..