Kiev. Lost? ..

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As of the early morning of February 22, I no longer quite understand who is the real power in Kiev. Yesterday and. about. Minister of Internal Affairs Zakharchenko was dismissed. All the security forces left the city center, throwing water cannons. Late in the evening there was information that the militants had taken under protection (from whom?) The buildings of the presidential administration, the cabinet, and the parliament. Already at night in some comments on news information flashed through the tapes that allegedly the board number 1 with the president had already left Kiev. The checkpoints of militants in the capital are growing by leaps and bounds. Armed thugs stop people, check documents, search vehicles. The impression is that the state has simply withdrawn itself.

It all happened so quickly that few people had time to understand something. Yesterday morning there were negotiations, after lunch it seemed that a compromise was finally found - there would be early elections. But by the evening it became clear that the militants live their lives, and the three crazy oppositional leaders do not concern them at all. A young man of unknown origin from the Maidan podium shouted that Yanukovich has time before February 10 on 22 to resign, otherwise “we will go on the offensive with weapons».

I think many of the “Russian-speaking” citizens tolerant of the Maidan, who thought that there was a fair struggle between the common people and the gang in power, will now begin to see clearly and understand what kind of power is replacing the current one. But I had to think before. And now - who is able to oppose? Militants are well prepared, organized, armed. They are outspoken nationalist extremists, they do not hide it. This movement is completely anti-Russian in its spirit and form. Its point is directed not only against hated Moscow, but also against any native Russian language and culture here in Ukraine. All residents of the south and east, and in general all those who speak Russian, they consider, at best, some kind of converted Ukrainians, who once spoke everything in Move, but then the evil Muscovites came and melted them forcibly into themselves. And at worst - they are considered just Muscovites, and that's all. They do not care at all that most of the country's population is at least neutral towards Russia. And at least a third of the country would prefer that their lands simply become part of Russia. However, the nationalists do not care that Kiev as a whole is a Russian-speaking city - even now, after 25 years of unscrupulous Ukrainization. They are all “unchilted”! They are going to build a new Ukraine - for the "Ukrainian nation".

I have the impression that the events taking place now are even useful in something. Masks are dropped, and the truth comes out. If earlier, since the safe times of the Union, we somehow could not wake up, we simply lived not in the Ukrainian SSR, but “in” Ukraine, as time went on, gave us a hymn, a flag, a hryvnia ... Well, to hell with it, life goes on, what difference ! .. But today, every citizen of Ukraine is faced with a choice: either you are Russian or you are Ukrainian. If you do not know Mova, you can not be a priori Ukrainian. If you go to the “Moscow Church” (that is, to the church of the Moscow Patriarchate), you are a Moskal and a traitor. The times of the "Russian-speaking Ukrainians" are over. If your native language is Russian, then call yourself Russian, do not be fooled by reality. Whoever has not yet understood this, will understand later, when, God forbid, shooting will go at full speed across the country. Then language and religion will be the only way to distinguish one's own from others! This is the worst thing you can imagine, but it is. The real national-religious conflict is kindled. And Yanukovych with the gang had nothing to do with it, as he had with him initially. Whoever has not yet understood this, is simply a narrow-minded person.

The dope of the project "Ukraine" is passing, its true face is shown. But who will now save the Russian land from this terrible face?
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  1. +21
    24 February 2014 08: 35
    Zakhinbacher there now ... and the most offensive is that the fraternal people and we do not understand each other ...
    1. +21
      24 February 2014 08: 40
      The people would understand if the world order dividers did not steer the mainstream unrest.
      And how can they say, Kiev is lost, it was lost at the moment of throwing the first bottle of "Molotov", which was not answered by "Berkut" (no order ...) - at that moment I realized that Kiev and Ukraine had become different.
      1. +25
        24 February 2014 09: 22
        The problem with the loss of Kiev is closed, we drove through!
        Now all the main events are transferred to the Crimea!
        The main battle will be there and will not seem enough.
        1. +6
          24 February 2014 09: 53
          Quote: 123dv
          Now all the main events are transferred to the Crimea!

          T.E. everything that is east of the Dnieper coast is already written off as maydanutami?
          And for the Donbass it is useless to be interested in?
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +13
            24 February 2014 10: 34
            Quote: Papakiko
            T.E. everything that is east of the Dnieper coast is already written off as maydanutami?


            I think ... now yes. although .. listening to the Kharkov Congress .. there was still hope. especially after that. as the Head of the Province of Kharkov ...- yes, we are now in the emergency mode, AMD and the Army to ourselves and ... well, I think .. thank God .. it started fellow
            And here .. oh .. menace-we are also threatened with imprisonment, oh still .. on the area of ​​1.5 - 2 thousand natsts and ..... blah blah blah blah.
            A gang is a gang ... right people say.
            I say that I know, because from Donetsk, Makeyevka, the Dnieper and Lugansk .. practically .. I won’t fix it .. I won’t surely .. crying

            To the author of article +! Only the title of the article I would title so ... Ukraine is lost? Only Crimea remained .. soldier
            1. +4
              24 February 2014 11: 12
              Quote: vaf
              To the author of article +! Only the title of the article I would title so ... Ukraine is lost? Only Crimea remained ..

              Strongly agree!
              But it’s too early to order a requiem. (hopefully)
              And the fact that the "official" people "chew" for the people so should be the people do not care, this is provided that the people really do not care how to live and do not care what these little guys say.
              Quote: vaf
              I say that I know, because from Donetsk, Makeyevka, the Dnieper and Lugansk .. practically .. I won’t fix it .. I won’t surely ..

              You Komrad more than me are known moods in Ukrainian society.
              But it is painful on the heart from the "bydlyachstvo" of the central and southeastern part of the Square.
              Although our "society" is not much different, mlyahhh even such a word is not suitable (society). You can see everything on the example of questions from LCN.
              1. +22
                24 February 2014 12: 28
                .
                KYIV residents on the side of the Maidan.

                Yes Yes. Do not be surprised. The vast majority of Kiev on the side of the Maidan. All whom I called. Everyone whom my friends called. EVERYTHING on the side of the Maidan, support the Maidan.

                No, they do not participate in battles, do not go in formation, not militants in general. But ideologically on their side, ideologically they are supported and whoever can help with what. They can bring food, they can throw money, help the bruschatka to make out .... They tolerate, are sympathetic to everything that they do. And blame the authorities for everything. In the destruction of the city, in unrest, in ruin.

                This is just some kind of !!!!!!!!

                Normal like people with higher education ....

                Who are you, WE going to help? They did not ask for help. Moreover, they are completely consciously against us. You see, EVERYONE with whom I and my friends spoke !!!!!!!!!!!

                They were brainwashed to such an extent by propaganda. But they did it so skillfully that they do not notice it and consider their opinion absolutely independent and objective. In addition, the Yanukovych clan and the orders created by him really got everyone. Another thing is that we understand that even BIG gangsters and idlers could knock down such a bandit.

                In general, in order to help Kiev, it is necessary for the people of Kiev to have enough of the fascist order, even more gangster lawlessness and devastation. And you need your own massive and effective counter-propaganda. Without this, Kiev cannot be returned.
                1. +10
                  24 February 2014 13: 09
                  On the other hand...

                  if we don’t put things in order in Ukraine, they do not give a damn about all the formalities, as those who made the coup did, then in half a year or a year it will also happen in Russia, only in a much more bloody form. You will have Western saboteurs, and Arab militants, and Ukrainian fascists who cannot be distinguished from Russian people, and mercenaries from private security companies, and the collapse of the country ....

                  and if you put things in order in Ukraine, I'm sorry, they’ll dare to go to Russia.

                  the front line now runs through Ukraine. if you surrender Ukraine, the front line will move further east, to Russia. This must not be allowed!
                  1. +1
                    24 February 2014 14: 59
                    Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                    if you don’t put things in order in Ukraine now, they don’t give a damn about all the formalities, as those who made the coup did, then in half a year or a year, too, will happen in Russia

                    Your words to Putin’s ears. And methods of influence on Ukraine are enough.
                  2. 0
                    24 February 2014 15: 13
                    Once again I say, who will climb - "crap"!
                2. +11
                  24 February 2014 13: 41
                  Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                  In general, in order to help Kiev, it is necessary for the people of Kiev to have enough of the fascist order, even more gangster lawlessness and devastation. And you need your own massive and effective counter-propaganda. Without this, Kiev cannot be returned.


                  You can be sure that not only Kievites will be full. The banning of regional languages ​​is just a warm-up before the GREAT DIRECTION. At the second stage, the definition of "non-citizens" will be introduced, followed by squeezing out (well if alive) Russians, etc. Well, then, (as befits a nationalist state), half-breeds will be engaged. Then you will all have to pull out your hair in your intimate places, but won't it be too late?

                  Russia cannot interfere, for the simple reason that it will be finally declared a "WORLD EVIL" with all the consequences, until the rearmament of the Russian Armed Forces is completed. At the same time, you yourself will call us invaders. As long as YOU are all Ukrainians, you will not understand that your salvation, WHILE still, is only in your hands and "MY HUT WITH THE BORDER" does not channel - your destiny will be life and death on the territory of "Ukraine" in the form of a WILD FIELD, in war West against Russia.

                  And the best propaganda will be, only an increase in well-being in our country itself.
                  1. rolik
                    0
                    24 February 2014 21: 24
                    Quote: skeptic
                    As long as YOU are all Ukrainians, you will not understand that your salvation, WHILE still, is only in your hands and "MY HUT WITH THE BORDER" does not channel - your destiny will be life and death on the territory of "Ukraine" in the form of a WILD FIELD, in war West against Russia.

                    I, in turn, have a question. And when Ukraine and Ukrainians saved themselves ????? let's remember the story. Who came to Catherine with a request to take them under the wing of the Empire ???? And further on in the same scenario. Up to our times. Even now, instead of rallying and taking control of the situation, they are waiting for Russia to begin. And why do not you start first, and we will support. Why should we always start, and then get for it in the back-occupier. Explain this incident to me please.
                3. 0
                  24 February 2014 14: 24
                  KYIV residents on the side of the Maidan.


                  Sober up when there is nothing to eat. Nobody really collects taxes. And the obligations on the spending side of the budget are still the same. Production is falling. The default will come. Here we will see where their revolution is.
                  And they can start unlimited and be quacking, as well as with the peacekeeping contingent, as in Georgia.
                  The best thing against this young in Kiev and not to go west. Go wild.

                  Well, it is desirable to pull out the base of violent Maidan from the SBU. That would be "sip" in the future.
                4. +2
                  24 February 2014 19: 06
                  It is difficult to call "normal", "logical thinking" after they have twice managed to elect a drug addict Chernovetskiy as mayor of Kiev. Kiev has never been the whole of Ukraine, like Moscow, by the way. It was the closest Abroad. But soon the sobering will come. It is a pity that it will be difficult.
                5. 0
                  24 February 2014 23: 07
                  Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                  Normal like people with higher education ....


                  were once ...

                  and now - the desire to survive at all costs
            2. +22
              24 February 2014 12: 03
              Kharkov mayor and his sidekick surrendered. They said that they are on the side of the people.
              In Crimea, that is, people have a will, but there is no organization. What is the main trouble now: traitors came to power. Julia - the reptile first contacted Fule and McCain. Now they will form their own government. The constitution has already been adjusted to this case. Assign your own to the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other internal forces. And legally suppress any revolt in the Crimea. But already none of the corrupt newsagents will shout that people are resisting. They say that here are the last of the aunts, cornered. They will be solved quickly and not from water cannons, but by machine guns, who will be objectionable.
              They handed over Ukraine with giblets. syshya (s * ki, n * for eb * n * e tv * ri) already WARNED (!) Russia from military intervention. So probably such a topic has risen.
              What to do now? who should I contact for help?
              here is a characteristic video

              A acting prezika in Ukraine has already stated. that we will build friendly relations with the Russian Federation, which will be based on the EUROPEAN choice of Ukraine !!! ugh fucking

              In short, Russia is in line. Get ready, Brothers, for n * zdets goes by leaps and bounds!
              1. +2
                24 February 2014 13: 39
                Whether Russia needs this friendship, they did not ask. In the treasury is a shank. A debt must be paid.
              2. +3
                24 February 2014 13: 46
                This is FULL p-ts! Everything, the country is in fact no longer !!! Terry makhnovschina
              3. 0
                24 February 2014 14: 30
                That don’t worry you. The party will be long.
                But such episodes, the more often the enlightenment Svidomo will happen faster.
                Woland Julia was already bending down on his own terms.
                Now it’s even easier to bend.
                Soon the face of the revolution will show for Svidomo its true face. A penny nemae.
                And they will be sold as before. Bggg. Not slaves.
          2. -1
            24 February 2014 11: 31
            Quote: Papakiko
            Quote: 123dv
            Now all the main events are transferred to the Crimea!

            T.E. everything that is east of the Dnieper coast is already written off as maydanutami?
            And for the Donbass it is useless to be interested in?

            I am amazed all the time by such people who consider themselves prophets, such as 123dv, he already understood everything and knows what will happen next. There can be no other opinions. Strategies are figs.
          3. GDP
            +2
            24 February 2014 12: 28
            The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine recognized as invalid the law on the foundations of the state language policy of July 3 2012
            Russian language in Ukraine is now illegal! Obviously now in Ukraine education in Russian, television and radio broadcasting, service and so on will be banned ...
            1. rolik
              +2
              24 February 2014 21: 27
              Quote: GDP
              Russian language in Ukraine is now illegal!

              Well, let them come here with their mova. Will be sent in pure Russian, Great and Mighty.
            2. 0
              25 February 2014 00: 22
              Quote: GDP
              Russian language in Ukraine is now illegal! Obviously now in Ukraine education in Russian will be banned


              I always thought that the Russian language is part of the past of Ukraine. They will forget it ... they will forget their past, and without the past, Ukraine will be Kirdyk. More precisely - all sang Ukraine. I sold and forgot everything that was expensive for both peoples.

              They fought together against fascism ... the USSR and then Russia suppressed the slightest "sigh" of fascism. But Ukraine has saved its fascists and is now slowly bending down under them.
        2. +1
          24 February 2014 10: 18
          Quote: 123dv
          The main battle will be there and will not seem enough.

          God grant.
          only now there is no leader, and ate during the battle no one will take on this burden ...
          1. 0
            24 February 2014 11: 00
            The leader is Oleg Tsaryov. Adequate person. He needs support.
            1. +3
              24 February 2014 11: 02
              Best of the worst? I did not notice leadership qualities in him. Speak and convict - maybe yes. But lead me - I think not
            2. +3
              24 February 2014 13: 36
              Quote: Gerurra
              The leader is Oleg Tsaryov. Adequate person. He needs support.

              Tsarev, he began to disappoint ... He needs to go to people in the square and talk there, and he speaks more and more on Twitter. Almost all the power in the East begins to creep under the Bandera ... But the people need a LEADER who can organize ...
              So far, only Sevastopol residents were men, having thrown off the sold bureaucrats, elected a new mayor with Russian citizenship, reassigned the Ministry of Internal Affairs and refused to make payments to Kiev. If so, all over Crimea at least ...
              1. 0
                24 February 2014 21: 58
                Almost all the power in the East begins to creep under the Bandera ... But the people need a LEADER who can organize ...

                I would say that they do not creep, but hold an amorphous position.
                Because they really see how many people there are in Kiev and to the west. And they are very active.
                While the activity pleases the Crimea and Odessa. It will be seen further.
        3. +1
          24 February 2014 10: 25
          Quote: 123dv
          The problem with the loss of Kiev is closed, we drove through!

          ...Well, firstly, not forever!
          Secondly, will we take them back?
          Third, in whose capacity?


          According to some reports, the east of Little Russia is beginning to understand what is happening. Crimea - even more ...
          They say along the borders of Russia are preparing refugee reception centers ...

          There is sober analytics and forecast - http://chipstone.livejournal.com/1173717.html

          ... it can be stated that the situation was transformed from hopeless by a few skillful moves into a promising state. And, more importantly, it has been transferred from the acute phase to a positional confrontation, in which the SEI looks like an island of stability, and fights of local and not only significance are coming in the Center and in the West in the very near future. But still not finished. It's only the beginning. And there will be two main options.

          1. Tymoshenko manages to suppress the militants and it consolidates the country. In this case, the situation goes into a very slow development of balancing between the many forces of multiple interests. Or the old status quo is returning, Russia economically controls SEI and gets what it really needs - cooperation with Ukrainian industry. Tymoshenko receives power. Western Ukraine is deprived of military units and reduced to humility.

          2. Slaughterhouse in the Center with a shift to the West. And here the variant splits into two. Either Tymoshenko miraculously manages to restore relations with the offended security officials and unleash them on the militants to quench their thirst for revenge, then the fate of the "right sector" and others is a foregone conclusion. Either she will have to negotiate with the militants, then with a high probability Western Ukraine will secede under the rule of the militants. But this will create a precedent for the division of the country, which will lead to the separation of Southeast Asia and its inclusion in the orbit of Russian influence.

          But there is one important point that everyone will have to understand. The chaos in Ukraine came precisely because the people showed tremendous passivity. I decided that the government itself should solve all the problems for it. In the same Kiev, I am sure that out of the 4's, millions were not satisfied with what happened. Nevertheless, it all happened one way and another. If now the same passivity will be manifested by the population of the SEI, then chaos may also occur there. No one will solve their problems for them. And there’s nothing to count on any tanks from Russia. The fate of the Ukrainian people is in their own hands. You can help someone who is ready to give everything for his future, but it is pointless to drive it with sticks. Russia and all sensible forces in Ukraine have already done everything so that the coup falls into the void, so that a civil war does not break out, so that the acute phase of the coup ends in zilch without huge casualties. Now it is time to take care of ourselves.
          1. garlik
            0
            24 February 2014 11: 22
            This is not analytics, but the devil knows what. I have not read such nonsense
            1. georg737577
              0
              24 February 2014 13: 56
              I support! Heavy delirium, schizophrenia ...
            2. 0
              24 February 2014 22: 00
              I agree. Another office analyst. Although I studied the material. From myself invented.
        4. +4
          24 February 2014 10: 26
          Our media brazenly lie. We saw how our screwed up with the Crimean deputy, taking an interview with him
          1. 0
            24 February 2014 10: 54
            This is just the opinion of Pilunsky.

            BLACK SEA Navy: MYTHS AND REALITY, PAST AND FUTURE, ECONOMY, POLICY AND HUMAN FACTOR
            Leonid Pilunsky June 2, 1995,
            “Within the framework of the Partnership for Peace program and in continuation of the statements already made on the transformation of the Baltic-Black Sea region into a zone of peace, Ukraine could initiate the demilitarization of the Black Sea basin. At the transitional stages of this project, it would be possible to agree on a phased reduction of warships in the Black Sea, limiting their tonnage and on-board weapon systems. As a result, the countries of the Black Sea region would receive significant benefits in the form of reducing the level of military threat, reducing the cost of maintaining navies, improving the environmental situation in the Black Sea basin. Such a radical decision would put all points over “i” in a long and futile dispute between Ukraine and Russia about the fate of the Black Sea Fleet and naval bases. The implementation of these proposals requires at least the fulfillment of two main conditions.

            The first is the provision of guarantees for the fulfillment of the terms of such an agreement by NATO (including Turkey).

            The second is the presence of the political will of the states of the Black Sea region in strengthening confidence-building measures and weakening military confrontation without prejudice to their own security ... ”

            If they are fulfilled, then the issue will be resolved. But the Spartans answered: “If!”

            In conclusion, we can add that not only the Black Sea Fleet became an animate creature for many, living separately from the needs and problems of the people, moving or being repaired without crews and workers, but also the “native mother” of the Black Sea Fleet - geopolitics for many in Moscow came to life and came off from tens and hundreds of millions of civilians for the sake of those who do not want to part with militarism, revanchism, everything that bears military glory and big stars for them, and for us, “cannon-hepolytic meat” - suffering and hopelessness.
            1. +2
              24 February 2014 14: 03
              ... providing guarantees for the fulfillment of the terms of such an agreement by NATO (including Turkey).
              Pilunsky L.



              If not Pilunsky, then the representative of the fifth column at work.
              ... for the sake of those who do not want to part with militarism, revenge, all that they bring military glory and big stars, and for us, "cannon-hepolitic meat" - suffering and futility. [/ quote]
          2. xan
            +2
            24 February 2014 12: 01
            Quote: Den 11
            Our media brazenly lie. We saw how our screwed up with the Crimean deputy, taking an interview with him

            You yourself then completely listened to what Pilunsky said. He is a deputy of the Supreme Rada from the Party of Regions. He says: The Party of Regions, which had stolen for 11 years of power in the Crimea, is muddying in Crimea, and everything is calm.
            A liar and a hypocrite.
            1. -1
              24 February 2014 12: 08
              Man, you do not follow events very well. We are told that EVERYTHING is pro-Russian there! It turns out that no
              1. +3
                24 February 2014 13: 49
                Quote: Den 11
                We are told that EVERYTHING is pro-Russian there! It turns out that no

                Who do you believe? Pilunsky? To the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada? Yes, they are all corrupt there and will say everything that the owner orders them from overseas.
              2. 0
                24 February 2014 22: 08
                Where did you see that
                We are told that EVERYTHING is pro-Russian there!

                give a video of the state media?
          3. +3
            24 February 2014 13: 47
            Quote: Den 11
            Our media brazenly lie. We saw how our screwed up with the Crimean deputy, taking an interview with him

            I’m wondering, on what basis does this Crimean deputy call anti-Maidan rallies artificially rounded up and titular i.e. for money, I don’t think that the Crimean authorities have so much money to pay 50 people .. Some kind of nonsense ..
          4. 0
            24 February 2014 22: 06
            Large enough and complete interview. Deputy Pilunsky expressed the opinion that everything is calm.
            Only power radicals Slots and Opps have already divided and mold laws, but they divide posts.
            I would understand that he was interrupted at the first word, but he said everything quite enough. That the party of regions holds rallies. Only there is no longer a party of regions, they passed their voters. Watch the latest videos from the Crimea. People come out without banners, just with St. George ribbons.
          5. 0
            24 February 2014 22: 29
            As always, they interrupted a person who spoke not at all what had to be said.
            Pilunsky had to yell about the Nazis and Natsik, urge everyone to take up arms and praise Yanukovych and his team.
        5. +15
          24 February 2014 10: 48
          Quote: 123dv
          The problem with the loss of Kiev is closed, we drove through!

          How can you not understand that what is happening in Ukraine is a slap in the face, first of all, of Russia and the Russian people! Do not take the "ostrich pose" (thrusting your head into the sand, pretending to see nothing and understand nothing) Well, the Russian people will leave their compatriots to be mocked and destroyed? Now terror against the Russians will begin, the law on regional languages ​​has already been canceled, total violent ukroinization begins again, and those who disagree will be cut out, robbed of property and burned houses, as they already do in the western regions. Then, with the establishment of the fascist-Bandera power in the eastern regions and in the Crimea, Russia will have to withdraw its fleet from Sevastopol, it will be forced to do it, or it will still have to fight in order to stay there. If Russia is now silently "wiped out", then in a couple years, and possibly even earlier, her turn will come. You will not be allowed to live in peace, they will unleash a civil war in your country, according to the same scenario.
          1. +2
            24 February 2014 13: 03
            Quote: bistrov.
            How can you not understand that what is happening in Ukraine is a spit in the face of, first of all, Russia and the Russian people!

            Yes, we all perfectly understand. only, according to the official position of the Russian authorities, there is not any "Russian People", but there is a "Multinational Russian People". Can you catch the difference?

            Quote: bistrov.
            Well, will the Russian people abandon their compatriots for reproach and destruction?


            The Russian authorities will do just that. You don’t have to go far for examples - Croatia and the Caucasus.
            Quote: bistrov.

            Now terror against the Russians will begin, the law on regional languages ​​has already been abolished, total violent ukroinization will begin again, and those who disagree will be cut, robbed and burned at home, as they already do in the western regions.

            No one will give you weapons. Weapons, like power, are not given; weapons, like power, are taken.
            Arm yourself, organize, get ready. Do not rely on Russia, only defend yourself.

            Quote: bistrov.
            .If Russia is now silently "wiped out", then in a couple of years, and possibly earlier, its turn will come. You will not be allowed to live in peace, they will unleash a civil war in your country, according to the same scenario.

            I agree. Everything goes to this. Only instead of your zapadentsiv we will have the same Russians from the Caucasus ... We will study the ancient Russian Avar language.
        6. +4
          24 February 2014 10: 59
          If you swell money like the Olympic money in the Little Russians supporting Russia, then our time will come.
        7. Federal
          +2
          24 February 2014 11: 15
          I stopped reading the news, everything is clear, I’m telling how everything will go, given the total incapacity of the local bureaucrats, and the cowardice of the police, and the MOST IMPORTANT lack of a clear answer to the GDP, Kharkov, Donetsk Lugansk hold out for a couple more days without any clear support from Putin, then give up how and everyone else under the guarantee of amnesty, etc.
          Putin, you played too much and pissed off what else can be covered from Natsik. This coup clearly tell everyone, break away from your Kabaeva and do what you should. or play on unnecessary Olympiads and build missile defense in Rostov and Belgorod.
          Congratulations for another betrayal of Russian compatriots like you in Ukraine.
        8. +3
          24 February 2014 12: 36
          Quote: 123dv
          Now all the main events are transferred to the Crimea!
          The main battle will be there and will not seem enough.


          If not halam-balam, not indulging in goodies, then at least you need to build a defense on Perekop. Block the Crimean Tatar Natsik in the field. Solve issues with potential weapons, equip checkpoints in the most critical areas. It goes without saying - to solve issues with the security forces on the peninsula, if there is no desire to get a stab in the back, at the most crucial moment.

          For any other - it’s just vanity of vanities and languor of spirit, with aggravating consequences.
          1. +2
            24 February 2014 13: 12
            Quote: skeptic
            Block the Crimean Tatar Natsik in the field.

            It is not known who blocks anyone first.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzQPWA1pgUc
            And in the end they demanded in ten days to demolish the monument to Lenin in the central square of Simferopol and dissolve the parliament ....
            And then ... and then like in Kosovo, I suppose ....
            1. 0
              24 February 2014 14: 17
              Quote: 123dv
              It is not known who blocks anyone first.



              Quote: skeptic
              For any other - it’s just vanity of vanities and languor of spirit, with aggravating consequences.

        9. +1
          24 February 2014 12: 42
          all industry is in the east, and so Bendera will come to the east, you need to live, but the treasury is empty. and for the r.language is a criminal.
        10. +2
          24 February 2014 13: 10
          Quote: 123dv
          The problem with the loss of Kiev is closed, we drove through!

          NOOOOOOOOOOOO, NOT LOST! Kutuzov once also surrendered Moscow, but what happened? Only the heels of the Frenchmen sparkled.
          We must fight, fight for Kiev, Russian Kiev.
          Chilly stupid Penguins hiding chilly, residents of Kiev will soon understand which wolf was allowed into the shepherd, and the national liberation war for the Russian Outskirts will begin.
          The truth is behind us, after the Russian people. We will win.
          The main thing is not to give up.
        11. Vovka levka
          -2
          24 February 2014 13: 40
          Quote: 123dv
          The problem with the loss of Kiev is closed, we drove through!
          Now all the main events are transferred to the Crimea!
          The main battle will be there and will not seem enough.

          Calm down, nothing will happen.
          1. 0
            24 February 2014 14: 21
            Quote: Vovka Levka
            Calm down, nothing will happen.


            So about identity - NATO will not allow it. Such a bridgehead to miss.
        12. AVV
          0
          24 February 2014 19: 54
          Quote: 123dv
          The problem with the loss of Kiev is closed, we drove through!
          Now all the main events are transferred to the Crimea!
          The main battle will be there and will not seem enough.

          Tatars need to be at sea, this is the Kosovo Ki, they will harm, Stalin immediately saw this bastard.
        13. 0
          24 February 2014 23: 44
          Quote: 123dv
          The problem with the loss of Kiev is closed, we drove through!


          flew by ... laughing
      2. +9
        24 February 2014 09: 36
        Quote: mirag2
        he was lost at the moment of throwing the first bottle of "Molotov" - to which "Berkut" did not answer (no order ...)

        I thought that at the time of "riding" on a forklift and throwing stones passed the point of "no return", even in November.
        I only hoped that they would not get to such an intense bloodlust. But it turned out that this costume show will be OH, what a "spectacular" one.
        The most flowers and berries in front of us are waiting.
        Our media out there, as they hush up and do not file all the breaks that are happening.
        1. +5
          24 February 2014 10: 23
          They said that Putin’s hands are tied with the Olympics. The Olympics is over, we will see how he will help the fraternal people.
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +10
            24 February 2014 10: 27
            Quote: Armata
            They said that Putin’s hands are tied with the Olympics


            Yeah .. he always has something, something .. related wassat
            1. Bezz
              +7
              24 February 2014 12: 30
              Quote: vaf
              Quote: Armata
              They said that Putin’s hands are tied with the Olympics


              Yeah .. he always has something, something .. related wassat

              Some forum users write that everything will be decided by bargaining between Moscow and Washington. I don’t think so.
              I am afraid that, as Kisa Vorobyaninov said - "Bargaining is inappropriate here!" To bargain, you need either a product or money. The USA has a lot of "free carrots", and they will print as much money as they need. What arguments does Moscow have - apart from the proposal to join the CU and the slogans "Kiev is the mother of Russian cities!", "We are a brotherly people," I personally do not see. Moreover, the United States in Russia has long decided its economic ambitions through the Gorbachev-Yeltsin-Putin-cooperative "Lake" -Duma-Federation Council. The United States conducts economic activities with Russia on the most favorable terms, these conditions will never change as long as your deputies, ministers, presidents have real estate and their own business in the United States and Europe, their children live and study there. Why should the US fight with Russia for Ukraine? It's easier to run into the American and European business of your officials - they will immediately sign everything. And political bickering is all blah, blah, blah - for the inhabitants, the semblance of activity, well, you need to justify the budget of a huge political apparatus. And we, here in Belarus, shiver, watching the tragedy of Ukraine. After all, and we can beckon with "free carrots". The only hope is for the AHL and its policy with Moscow for now. But nothing is eternal. Unfortunately.
              PSOn some sort of power actions on the part of Russia, only a madman can think.
              The Caucasus will seem like a sandbox. Yes, and see above the alignment of political influence. Let us hope for the prudence of the people of all Ukraine, and not of individual areas.
          2. +1
            24 February 2014 11: 02
            Putin is an oligarch. And he told me not to care what management to work with. This was said in the news.
            1. zzz
              zzz
              +4
              24 February 2014 11: 50
              Quote: Gerurra
              Putin is an oligarch. And he told me not to care what management to work with. This was said in the news.


              Putin is an oligarch - but not an idiom! He perfectly understands that he will be the next in this chain, starting with Milosevic! so: either life or wallet.
            2. +1
              24 February 2014 13: 13
              Quote: Gerurra
              Putin is an oligarch. And he told me not to care what management to work with. This was said in the news.


              Normal RU February 22, 2014 17:54 | Ukraine. End of story

              [quote Alexander Romanov]
              Putin does not recognize Bandera.

              ...
              [quote Horst78]
              Or maybe you don’t need to take over the powers that the Russian leadership will do.
  • +1
    24 February 2014 12: 02
    But who will save the Russian land from this terrible mug?

    It turns out, except for Russia there is no one.
  • predator.3
    +7
    24 February 2014 10: 05
    After the formation of a new government in Ukraine, the EU is ready to provide Kiev with 20 billion euros for reforms, said Elmar Brock, head of the European Parliament’s Foreign Affairs Committee.

    “It seems to me that there will be EUR 20 billion on the table for reforms, and this support can be provided immediately to prevent default,” E. Brock said on the air of the 1 + 1 TV channel on Sunday evening.

    The European MP expressed the hope that a new government will soon appear in Ukraine, which will carry out the necessary reforms.

    “We will support this government. People should not be afraid that a default will occur and reforms will not be ensured and Ukraine will be left without support, ”Brock said.

    According to him, EU assistance will be aimed at "creating better economic conditions for the economic future - in order to prepare the country for signing the Association Agreement with the EU."


    Loans have one peculiarity - over time they must be repaid! ... and with interest! And who can repay these loans in Ukraine? Lviv or what is the western region? unih there a ball roll! remains as always southeast?
    1. +4
      24 February 2014 10: 22
      Quote: predator.3
      remains as always southeast

      Komradd, this vokurat is enough to pay off both debt and interest and a comfortable life for 200 years to all Galich-Bender geeks.
      The southeastern and central "Ukraine" was substituted itself, by its passive behavior of society, for all "reformatory" actions of the "authorities", under which they are now weakening it.
      While in Egypt on vacation in 2008, many Ukrainians (there were many of them in our hotel) talked about their "tacit" acceptance of all "reforms". They just cried that everything was bad and expected a "miracle" in the form of a kind uncle who would come and bring them everything on a platter.
      Well, they waited.
      Now it is finally determined whether they are in "liabilities" or in "assets".
  • +1
    24 February 2014 12: 30
    Quote: mirag2
    -Kiev is lost-it was lost at the moment of throwing the first bottle of "Molotov" -to which "Berkut" did not answer


    Absolutely right!
  • Vlad Gore
    -44
    24 February 2014 08: 46
    The descendants of the Khazars and Pechenegs, once glorified by our ancestors, are not brothers to us. Now we must understand this.
    1. +15
      24 February 2014 09: 00
      The descendants of the Khazars and Pechenegs, once glorified by our ancestors, are not brothers to us. Now we must understand this.


      Dear, how did you study at school? or rubbed ass on the last desk? Take a textbook on history and read LEARNING !!!
      1. -10
        24 February 2014 09: 14
        ) But he is absolutely right. It is enough to look at the Ukrainian surnames -co and -uk. and the famous Papondopolo-purely Slavic surname?
        1. +4
          24 February 2014 09: 28
          of course Russian, Slavic, from the word "get" laughing
          but generally rather Greek
        2. predator.3
          +2
          24 February 2014 10: 15
          Quote: formidable
          well-known Papondopolo- purely Slavic surname?

          this is Odessa greek,
        3. +2
          24 February 2014 10: 18
          However, Greek.
        4. +2
          24 February 2014 10: 19
          in Russia, not all Great Russian surnames are the same, so what?
          the Black Sea coast is such a compote
          1. -4
            24 February 2014 10: 32
            ) and then the real Slavs have surnames -in and -ov ending. even among Serbs, Bulgarians, Slovenes and others. and half-blood Ukrainians are a mixture of Poles with Pechenegs and Jews.
        5. garlik
          +4
          24 February 2014 11: 27
          Another degenerate
      2. +17
        24 February 2014 09: 15
        Quote: Scandinavian
        Dear, how did you study at school? or rubbed ass on the last desk? Take a textbook on history and read LEARNING !!!

        No, he doesn’t need to. And then when she finds out that Russia began from Kiev, she’s very upset laughing
        1. Luzhichanin
          +17
          24 February 2014 09: 36
          Pay attention to the bulk of the militants - these are young people on average from 15 to 30, look who opposes them - mostly for 30-40. For all the shootings, this is visible, even in the southeast, mostly adults are against it, young people are hardly noticeable.
          Here's the answer: 20 years of brainwashing has worked. If it is most often useless to tackle the minds of adults, although there are exceptions, then the minds of young people with fragile minds are like plasticine: sculpt whatever you want. As a result, we get historical insanity in the minds of people, and even coupled with a heightened sense of resentment inherent in young people. Dangerous mix. And besides, it was well-trained and organized: on VO there are articles describing how "the Maidan steel was tempered" even under the guise of role-playing communities. Hence all sorts of Narnians and others like that on the barricades.
          I think a lot and southeastern youth succumbed to the decay of SMRAD. Something is hardly noticeable in the southeast, although it should have been the most active, but in fact the most active more adult people.
          Therefore, I agree with the disappointing conclusions of Nevsky: they lost the battle for youth with the complete connivance of our government.
          Now the battle for the minds of the youth of Russia is ongoing and our government is giving its future citizens to be devoured under the rampart of this ideological struggle.
          Soon there will be a "voice" program for the little ones on the first channel and you will see how humiliation will be instilled in your own language (people) and love for English!
          Fight for the minds of the young! I urge everyone before it's too late, wherever you are: talk to children, teenagers, explain, debunk the myths that are created by "our" government and "our" SMRAD.
          Hope is only on ourselves! We do not need the fucking authorities, all of her actions on concessions in the social sphere, etc. - this is just a screen for a war for the minds of our future, a battle for our children!

          Note that in almost all the programs of SMRAD, if Russian is bad, if not bad, then not Russian, although sometimes it does not make a reservation about belonging to a particular genus
        2. +6
          24 February 2014 09: 47
          You will be even more upset when you find out that Kievan Rus began with Novgorod.
          1. +4
            24 February 2014 11: 17
            Once upon a time. Novgorod was called Yaroslavl. After some time, the population of this city was almost cut out. The remains of the townspeople went to present Novgorod.
            So says REN TB. Nobody knows the truth. Before the 16th century, Petrusha 1 destroyed all the paper. And Kievan Rus was the first and remains forever. So far !? Bendera will remain another name. Type Khiev or Kh. E. Bendera. What to do.
            1. -3
              24 February 2014 11: 45
              Quote: Gerurra
              Once upon a time. Novgorod was called Yaroslavl. After some time, the population of this city was almost cut out. The remains of the townspeople went to present Novgorod.
              So says REN TB. No one knows the truth. All the papers before the 16th century, Petrusha 1 destroyed.

              1) Novgorod has always been Novgorod. By the way, there were several of them. It's about Veliky Novgorod. Or do Western European and Arabic chronicles know less than REN TV?
              Although, if in the REN TV case, Novgorod the Great was still easy to get off. From this channel it will be announced that the inhabitants of Novgorod flew home to Sirius. Those of them who were not seen by the evil Martian Ivan the Terrible.)))
              2) "Petrusha I" ruled at the end of the 17th-first quarter of the 18th centuries. Why did he have to burn paper before the 16th century? Where did this infa come from? REN TV too?
          2. Sergh
            +1
            24 February 2014 11: 43
            Quote: Rattenfanger
            that Kievan Rus began with Novgorod

            Nah, Yaroslavl was the first to be built. At the weekend, you can see with Seiyo, useful.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG9JEDLUrHA&list=PLE4xEiL4SvYM8c0AxoQEa9_8TuQGzIU
            fi
        3. +1
          24 February 2014 11: 04
          ) for you will probably be news, then after Batu burned Kiev there for 200 years no one lived.
      3. Vlad Gore
        -3
        24 February 2014 09: 59
        How everything is running. Come on, "smart" enlighten. Why did the "brothers" have the main square named with the Arabic word "Maidan"? And what about the hero of national fairy tales named Mamai?
        1. +2
          24 February 2014 10: 01
          Quote: Vlad Gore
          Arabic word "maidan"

          Sure that arabic?
        2. predator.3
          +5
          24 February 2014 10: 20
          Quote: Vlad Gore
          Why did the "brothers" have the main square named with the Arabic word "Maidan"? And what about the hero of national fairy tales named Mamai?

          "maidan" is a Turkic word, but in general there are many Turkic words in both Russian and "mov".
          1. +1
            24 February 2014 10: 23
            Quote: predator.3
            "Maidan" is a Turkic word, and in general there are many Turkic words both in Russian and in "Mov".

            Well, what for prompt? :)
          2. Vlad Gore
            +2
            24 February 2014 10: 37
            Maidan (Persian میدان - meydan) is a Persian word by origin, meaning any open area, park or square.
      4. +2
        24 February 2014 10: 35
        Apparently, I mean that in the west of Ukraine, and not in the whole, the glorified descendants of the Polovtsy and Pechenegs.
    2. Luzhichanin
      -6
      24 February 2014 09: 16
      Quote: Vlad Gore
      Descendants of the Khazars

      they are more likely the Armenians with Azerbaijanis, the descendants of the Khazars ... let them not be offended by this conclusion. Well, it hurts well in the economy :)
      1. smersh70
        +1
        24 February 2014 11: 26
        Quote: Luzhichanin
        Azerbaijanis are descendants of the Khazars.

        we-yes))))) but with the Armenians you turned down))))
    3. +9
      24 February 2014 09: 16
      Quote: Vlad Gore
      Descendants of the Khazars and Pechenegs, once glorified by our ancestors

      I would be addicted to drugs.
    4. +2
      24 February 2014 10: 20
      Quote: Vlad Gore
      The descendants of the Khazars and Pechenegs, once glorified by our ancestors, are not brothers to us. Now we must understand this.

      Now it’s time to understand that fraternity is not determined by the end of a surname or even the result of DNA analysis.
    5. +1
      24 February 2014 10: 37
      For Vlad Gor.And I’m your brother? - (Mixed-mixed), and my children will be your brothers (half a Tatars also to the heap)?
    6. +1
      24 February 2014 10: 44
      To get started, read the books that smart people write, and on the contrary, Russia went from Ukraine, so if you think carefully then we are brothers to Ukrainians, and not to us at all (just me as a bloody Ukrainian say about the Khazars ancestors, which in Ukraine only collected tribute from the glades, but did not live)
      1. 0
        24 February 2014 11: 44
        ) look at the chronicle -Rurik from Novgorod came to the local head on the head and sat down to reign!
      2. 0
        24 February 2014 12: 03
        How are we to them brothers and not they to us. Brothers, they are brothers from both ends.
    7. +1
      24 February 2014 11: 05
      Well, the Khazars are unlikely-this Jewish nation was just killed by the Pechenegs with the Slavs.
    8. garlik
      -1
      24 February 2014 11: 27
      You are just dumb.
  • +6
    24 February 2014 08: 48
    Quote: Scandinavian
    and the most offensive is that the brotherly people


    I do not evaluate the activities of Yeltsin as a good hero, but even he had the determination to withdraw tanks ...
    1. +3
      24 February 2014 09: 37
      Oh guys! Apparently no longer fraternal! There are so many Bandera nonsense on the internet.
    2. +1
      24 February 2014 10: 00
      If I had not brought it out, if the army had not sat out with a tongue in the ass, maybe we would have lived differently now. By the way, in Moscow there were the same "draws" of the sniper. The script was still being prepared then.
  • 0
    24 February 2014 09: 02
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Zakhinbacher there now ... and the most offensive is that the fraternal people and we do not understand each other ...

    Sachenbacher im brotherly people now)))

    I think many of the "Russian-speaking" citizens who were tolerant of the Maidan, who thought that there was a fair struggle between the common people and the gang in power, will now begin to see clearly and understand what kind of power is replacing the current

    If since 2004, Yushchenko wasn’t enough ...
    Was Maxim? No. Well x ... with him.
  • +4
    24 February 2014 10: 55
    For 20 years, generations of Little Russians were treated by Bendera and Americans, and Russia was watching. Here they got nits with overseas looks. Now, as the Westerners say, only the cooler will stop them.
  • Kazakhstan
    +2
    24 February 2014 11: 01
    This is what Kazakhstanis think about Kiev and Ukraine, condemning Bandera and traitors. http://tengrinews.kz/world_news/zapad-opasaetsya-voennoy-interventsii-rossii-na-
    ukrainu-250919 /
  • 0
    24 February 2014 11: 29
    Quote: Scandinavian
    the most offensive is that the brotherly people

    Excuse me, but do you believe in "brotherly" peoples? Have you seen it all? What kind of "brotherhood" are we talking about? Maybe it's time to really look at everything? We dissolve snot and drool about unity, brotherhood and by this we push ourselves into oblivion ...
    1. 0
      24 February 2014 12: 31
      Excuse me, but do you believe in "brotherly" peoples? Have you seen it all? What kind of "brotherhood" are we talking about? Maybe it's time to really look at everything? We dissolve snot and drool about unity, brotherhood and by this we push ourselves into oblivion ...


      Dear, you tell the forum participants from Belarus ... judging by your words, they are also not fraternal people ...
  • +44
    24 February 2014 08: 36
    He corresponded with people in Ukraine, just with strangers in social networks. So, at first, many zealously supported the Maidan, talked about Europe and the European way of life. And yesterday I wrote off, so they are just at a loss and everyone hopes that the Golden Eagle will protect, although they themselves watered and spread rot him a month ago. In general, Kiev and Ukrainians themselves profuca their city and country. I apologize for the expression, but they were bred like some
    1. +24
      24 February 2014 08: 46
      Quote: Dangerous
      In general, Kiev and Ukrainians themselves profuca their city and country. I apologize for the expression, but they were bred like some
      1. Samson911
        +13
        24 February 2014 08: 55
        They were divorced !!! They are suckers and they deserve it. But if a US military base appears in Kharkov or Sevastopol, how is it for you! If also nothing, then you are Shenderovich or Sobchak with Nemtsev. And do not forget that this one with a gun will soon appear under your borders and under Obama’s leadership, and that’s for sure !!!
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        4. +11
          24 February 2014 09: 11
          If not if - do you want to play kindergarten ?? I repeat once again that the Ukrainians themselves profiled their country! And how beautiful it all began - young students with songs and pies, unity and so on. As a result, these students and Maidan zapadentsy looked simply as an instrument in achieving the goal - seizing power.
      2. +12
        24 February 2014 09: 05
        Kohl deprived the Lord of the mind
        There is no one to blame you
        You yourself have cones
        And keep stepping on the rake
      3. 0
        24 February 2014 13: 42
        To this, in the photo: you are now a sub-fence and a man without a homeland.
    2. +1
      24 February 2014 10: 23
      There are others as well - they are just glad that the yanyk is gone, and there even though the grass does not grow. What trouble ...
    3. avt
      +3
      24 February 2014 10: 29
      Quote: Dangerous
      In general, Kiev and Ukrainians themselves profuca their city and country. I apologize for the expression, but they were bred like some

      request What? First time or what? Well, there is a classic - Bulgakov's White Guard. A work of art, but it was written by an eyewitness and talented. Almost one to one. A spiral of understanding of history.
  • +2
    24 February 2014 08: 41
    Keep your chin up! Here is some interesting news for thought - the governors, among which the majority of WESTERNNES have resigned !!!!:

    "At the moment, Oleg Salo (Lviv region), Valentin Hoptyan (Ternopil region), Alexander Bashkalenko (Volyn region) Vasily Chudnov (Ivano-Frankivsk region), Sergey Ryzhuk (Zhytomyr region), Gennady Nikolenko (Nikolaev region), Andrey Nikolaenko (Kirovograd region), Alexander Udovichenko (Poltava region), Ivan Movchan (Vinnytsia region).

    All statements about the resignation of governors were posted on the websites of regional administrations. The ex-heads of the regions cite the difficult situation in the country as the reason for their decision. "
    http://www.aif.ru/euromaidan/uanews/1111491


    ex-heads of regions call the difficult situation in the country.
    1. +1
      24 February 2014 08: 43
      At the moment, Oleg Salo (Lviv region), Valentin Khoptyan (Ternopil region), Alexander Bashkalenko (Volyn region) Vasily Chudnov (Ivano-Frankivsk region), Sergey Ryzhuk (Zhytomyr region), Gennady Nikolenko (Nikolaev region), Andrei resigned Nikolayenko (Kirovograd region), Alexander Udovichenko (Poltava region), Ivan Movchan (Vinnytsia region).


      Did General Genady Volkov also file?
    2. +4
      24 February 2014 08: 45
      What is there to ponder? When in the country anarchy and Natsik armed groups are walking around, you will naturally resign. Or you will fulfill all their requirements. These Bendera people are like a roof - if you want to live, pay (follow our instructions)
      1. +9
        24 February 2014 10: 43
        Guys, even Bandera. Bendera is a modest resident of the Moldavian town.
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    4. Fin
      +3
      24 February 2014 09: 48
      Quote: Magadan
      Here is some interesting news for thought - the governors, among which the majority of WESTERNNES have resigned !!!!:

      And there is nothing interesting. Now there will be a reappointment of all the governors, so they left. This wording is more convenient than being filmed. And those who support the new "power" will be appointed again.
      1. +8
        24 February 2014 10: 00
        Quote: Fin
        Now there will be a reappointment of all governors so they fell behind

        "New Power" ..... Yes! They started briskly! They also work on weekends, just to shift more and adopt new laws. However, the old horsemen say: "Whoever starts too quickly will die at the finish line."
        Already now the Ryaspri have begun in BP itself !!!
        People’s deputies in the Verkhovna Rada express dissatisfaction with the procedure for adopting bills. People’s deputy of the Party of Regions faction Sergei Tigipko said this at a BP meeting, a polemic correspondent reports. “The fisherman was a super democrat. No documents on hand now. We were accused of voting with our hands, and what are you doing? Give at least one document. You just push and push, ”Tigipko said. Note that the parliament today takes almost all decisions without discussion. Earlier, MP KPU Adam Martynyuk also said that the deputies "work like blind kittens" because they are not provided with the texts of decisions and bills that are adopted.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139585.html
        In the Verkhovna Rada, “immoral bidding” began between deputies for positions and membership in the faction. This is stated by non-factional MP Inna Bogoslovskaya in the Verkhovna Rada. “Each of you knows what immoral bidding began again in parliament. Each of you knows that again there is talk about money for joining one or another group, a meeting of deputy groups and factions, about posts, ”she said. The parliamentarian demands that the Verkhovna Rada does not become a "corruption center for politics and business."
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139598.html
        XXXX
        And how urgently they returned parliamentary mandates to those who had previously been sent from the Verkhovna Rada for criminal offenses, oh, excuse me - these are all "political persecutions." In place of the dismissed, they added new ones from their own parties. And now these have been returned, but the newly introduced ones have not been sent home. Even in these conditions, they DO NOT have a majority to work in parliament. And this is just the beginning!

        1. smersh70
          +2
          24 February 2014 11: 32
          Quote: Egoza
          New power "..... Yes! They started briskly!
          That's the way to work bully and not to breed chickens in your villa ... wassat
    5. VAF
      VAF
      +1
      24 February 2014 10: 39
      Quote: Magadan
      Keep your chin up! Here is some interesting news for thought - the governors, among which the majority of WESTERNNES have resigned !!!!:


      The second time write nonsense ... these governors are all "proteges of the Party of Regions". Therefore, it is quite reasonable that they "resign" from themselves ... request
    6. +1
      24 February 2014 11: 09
      But are they not from the party of regions? In my opinion, they were appointed by the Yanuk, and now, after its discharge, and they run.
      1. 0
        24 February 2014 11: 31
        Quote: Walk
        they were appointed by the Yanuk, and now, after its discharge, and they run.

        Well, who is running, and who is openly persecuted and endangering the life of the family. It's just that "these" are now in a hurry to appoint their governors !!
        The People’s Deputy from the Party of Regions faction Sergey Tigipko appealed to the Security Service of Ukraine and the Ministry of Internal Affairs with a request to protect members of the Party of Regions from attacks on their life and health, the politician’s press service said. "People who are guilty of crimes and abuses should be punished by the court. Ukraine is a democratic state, and people should not be prosecuted for their political affiliation. Any discrimination is unacceptable. And all the more, unjustified violence against party members is unacceptable. Everyone who is in their actions overstepped the boundaries of law, morality and humanity, should be punished, no matter what side of the confrontation they took. But only within the framework of the law, "added Tigipko.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139609.html
    7. smersh70
      +5
      24 February 2014 11: 29
      Quote: Magadan
      Keep your chin up! Here is some interesting news for thought - the governors, among which the majority of WESTERNNES have resigned !!!!:

      Well, and who are you going to protect - this Prosecutor in Roman clothes, (photo from his house) Procurator x ... c. Not a man, they just flee right away. Earlier it was necessary to think and whether to voluntarily (surrender) and defend in court yourself !!!
      1. +1
        24 February 2014 12: 34
        this Prosecutor in Roman clothes, (photo from his house)


        Does enemy propaganda work against us? WORKS.

        Could those who fight against us bring this picture with them? COULD.

        Could this picture be presented to the prosecutor Klitschko? Could.

        Let's not fight against ourselves and spread the enemy propaganda.
        1. smersh70
          0
          24 February 2014 12: 49
          Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
          Could this picture be presented to the prosecutor Klitschko? Could.

          There wasn’t enough for him to give such things to the Prosecutor)))) but it’s for sure that Klchko hung fellow
  • -34
    24 February 2014 08: 42
    Let Ukraine themselves figure out who the government is there. Russia should not interfere in this mess.
    1. +15
      24 February 2014 08: 48
      Let Ukraine themselves figure out who the government is there. Russia should not interfere in this mess.


      Dear, you are politically reflecting, consider that the enemy is Bandera at your gate and you will wait for him to knock to visit you, along with Uncle Sam?
      1. Kazakhstan
        +1
        24 February 2014 11: 11
        This is what Kazakhstanis think about Kiev and Ukraine, condemning Bandera and traitors. http://tengrinews.kz/world_news/zapad-opasaetsya-voennoy-interventsii-rossii-na-

        ukrainu-250919 /
    2. Vlad Gore
      +23
      24 February 2014 08: 50
      Stupidity. Most of Ukraine is Russian lands. And there are many of our fellow tribesmen. Russia cannot be aloof.
      1. +7
        24 February 2014 09: 17
        I would like to slightly correct: there has never been a state "Ukraine". These lands are all Russian. And the current Geyropa was also once ours. They are just slowly "shrinking" us
      2. +4
        24 February 2014 09: 42
        The descendants of the Khazars and Pechenegs, once glorified by our ancestors, are not brothers to us. Now we must understand this.
        Quote: Vlad Gore
        Stupidity. Most of Ukraine is Russian lands. And there are many of our fellow tribesmen. Russia cannot be aloof.

        Well brother pearl after pearl straight Yanukovych in childhood laughing
        1. Sergh
          0
          24 February 2014 12: 02
          Quote: Burmeister
          I would like to slightly correct: there has never been a state "Ukraine". These lands are all Russian. And the current Geyropa was also once ours. They are just slowly "shrinking" us

          If according to Nosovsky and Fomenko, then you are right, there is some truth in their work. I looked at it three times, the plot twisted abruptly.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG9JEDLUrHA&list=PLE4xEiL4SvYM8c0AxoQEa9_8TuQGzIU
          fi
    3. +1
      24 February 2014 08: 57
      Quote: regdan
      Let Ukraine themselves figure out who the government is there. Russia should not interfere in this mess.

      Our people in Ukraine should not be left to their own devices. You need to help with at least word and money. And then look at the situation.
    4. -3
      24 February 2014 09: 01
      do you write from a big mind or for material gain?
    5. +7
      24 February 2014 09: 48
      that is, in your opinion it turns out if the neighbor is robbed, it is necessary to close the door more tightly, maybe they will not look at you? Or do you naively believe that young students in Ukraine themselves organized all this? and Maidan is a beacon of democracy?
  • +16
    24 February 2014 08: 43
    Yes, it's just that the time of flirting with non-deposits has passed. We are waiting for her new authorities - a crustacean to us for help. They will receive a maximum of a jar of jam and a box of cookies from the European Union, but Ukraine already owes us a debt, and is counting on getting a loan. So we didn’t want to be in love - we will be "friends" pragmatically, for money. The East, however, can be helped, but the West ... The games are over with the West.
    1. +25
      24 February 2014 08: 52
      In Crimea, yesterday they decided not to transfer taxes to Kiev
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    3. -7
      24 February 2014 09: 57
      Quote: Stiletto
      East, however, can be helped


      Could it be for China?
      1. +5
        24 February 2014 10: 53
        Semeen Semnyych you decided to shine with stupidity?
      2. +2
        24 February 2014 10: 58
        Quote: Semyon Semyonich
        Could it be for China?

        Not a reason for sarcasm!
    4. +3
      24 February 2014 10: 35
      Quote: Stiletto
      Yes, it's just that the time of flirting with non-deposits has passed. We are waiting for her new authorities - a crustacean to us for help. They will receive a maximum of a jar of jam and a box of cookies from the European Union, but Ukraine already owes us a debt, and is counting on getting a loan. So we didn’t want to be in love - we will be "friends" pragmatically, for money. The East, however, can be helped, but the West ... The games are over with the West.

      Something tells me that the creators of the 1932 Reich in Germany want to repeat this procedure with Ukraine in 2014 to build on Russia.
      1. +2
        24 February 2014 10: 45
        No, I don't agree. Then there were other conditions: two strong, young powers, claiming world leadership and dynamically following this path, were pitted against each other for the purpose of mutual destruction / weakening. In the situation with Ukraine, there is no need to play off anyone, the Slavs will gnaw inside themselves, and even more than with an external enemy. And the goal is to weaken Russia, or, at least, to distract from other international problems. Only, are miscalculated. "How the steel was tempered" (unlike the main Chinese) was not read. Let's go through this, and become stronger!
    5. 0
      24 February 2014 10: 35
      Quote: Stiletto
      Yes, it's just that the time of flirting with non-deposits has passed. We are waiting for her new authorities - a crustacean to us for help. They will receive a maximum of a jar of jam and a box of cookies from the European Union, but Ukraine already owes us a debt, and is counting on getting a loan. So we didn’t want to be in love - we will be "friends" pragmatically, for money. The East, however, can be helped, but the West ... The games are over with the West.

      Something tells me that the creators of the 1932 Reich in Germany want to repeat this procedure with Ukraine in 2014 to build on Russia.
  • +8
    24 February 2014 08: 43
    I have the impression that what is happening now is somewhat useful.

    Only a big minus is that again the Russians in Ukraine will suffer!
  • rereture
    +5
    24 February 2014 08: 44
    There is still no transitional government, and the United States is already asking Ukraine to contact the IMF.
    1. +5
      24 February 2014 09: 28
      The conditions for obtaining a loan in this scam are painfully slippery. In principle, the condition is simple: to ruin your own economy, buy everything western and make friends with anyone, if only against Russia. We went like that in the 90s. Sorry for the people who will work out a loan. It’s a pity that even those maidanut who committed atrocities robbed their own country in order to solve the geopolitical tasks of the EU and the USA.
      1. +1
        24 February 2014 09: 50
        buy everything western
        For what?
        Europeans and Americans are building idiots only on TV. They are looking for who will pay the gesheft and get to the thirty. The IMF is demanding reform, but is there anything left unreformed in Ukraine?
      2. +1
        24 February 2014 10: 04
        Such IMF loans have a curious feature: regardless of the purposes and conditions of their allocation, they end up in the accounts of individuals. Then the fun game "find a tranche" begins. Plus, a real meat grinder will begin in the new Ukrainian "government" while dividing this money. smile
        Only pensioners and state employees are very sorry ...
  • +15
    24 February 2014 08: 45
    from the Don.
    Guys! And where have you been for 20 years? When Yushche? You did not know about the so-called: scout camps:? And even now, when in the east the Nazis stop your buses, throw people out, scoff at me! Where are you when the trouble is in the hut?
    1. stapler
      +2
      24 February 2014 09: 06
      - I had to prepare for the confrontation 15 years ago
      1. 0
        24 February 2014 10: 56
        It's just that now it is necessary to do it faster, not to give up.
  • Samson911
    0
    24 February 2014 08: 46
    Kiev is lost !!! It's a pity of course. UKRAINE is lost ???????????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. +2
      24 February 2014 10: 03
      Samson911 ... Kiev is lost !!! It's a pity of course. UKRAINE is lost ???????????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      However, the alarmist!
  • +12
    24 February 2014 08: 47
    It’s a pity the guys from BERKUT and the VV Boys betrayed them ...
  • +5
    24 February 2014 08: 48
    Hello Syria at our borders! Wait ...
  • +8
    24 February 2014 08: 50
    About the financial condition. It is not so simple, because the European Union is not a bottomless barrel, a maximum for the first time will give money and even then, on credit. And practically all large enterprises belong to Russian business, and even this gas pipe ... So the Zapadents will not be happy for long, the Kremlin will start to twist their hands without tanks
    1. stapler
      +4
      24 February 2014 09: 07
      - business will not be taken away for long
      1. xan
        +1
        24 February 2014 12: 09
        Quote: stappler
        business will not be selected for long

        yeah, and then what?
        where to get energy?
    2. +1
      24 February 2014 09: 50
      The IMF will give money, and this is a bottomless barrel. little will FRS still print
    3. Samson911
      -1
      24 February 2014 09: 59
      I doubt it !!!!! All these revolutions are organized in order to redistribute the markets!
  • +6
    24 February 2014 08: 51
    In order to confirm its legitimacy, the current "government" will have to hold parliamentary elections in the very near future. This is where you need to work to the maximum! To find an opportunity to conduct aggressive anti-Maidan propaganda, since the "revolutionaries" scared all normal people with their actions. Force people to go to polling stations with kicks. Indeed, it is in this amorphous part of voters who very rarely attended elections that a huge reserve of healthy political forces in Ukraine will be hidden. Just because it is SCARY!
    1. +5
      24 February 2014 09: 30
      it’s far from a fact that in the current story the elections will not be fraudulent!
    2. +1
      24 February 2014 09: 55
      I don’t think there will be parliamentary elections in the near future. Unless of course the owners do not force.
    3. +3
      24 February 2014 10: 53
      Elections, if it comes to them, will be held under the strict guidance of Bandera. This is not a fortune teller. And how will they end?
  • +11
    24 February 2014 08: 51
    [img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ntMstOHAhfA [/ img]
    Events developing in Ukraine and already leading to the deaths and injuries of hundreds of people, are, in fact, a forceful method of persuading Ukrainian politicians to return to the "bosom of the West." And in this process, oddly enough, the former Soviet republics, today seeking to demonstrate their active position in the European Union and NATO, play a significant role. In particular, training of sabotage specialists from among Ukrainian nationalists was carried out by NATO instructors in Estonia several years before the current Maidan.

    As it turned out, on the territory of one of the military units near Emari, a sabotage and terrorist training course was organized under the guidance of NATO instructors for young people from Ukraine, members of some nationalist youth organizations. This is evidenced by a number of photographs and video materials posted on social networks in 2006 as one of the project participants, which became public.
    [img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ntMstOHAhfA [/ img]


    These are not tourists and not a folklore ensemble, namely future saboteurs. By the way, they are already in uniform, on which the Ukrainian bicolor is interspersed with the symbols of the nationalist organization UNA-UNSO. (video)

    The protracted confrontation in Ukraine suggests a serious level of paramilitary training and a fairly large number of militants of the so-called “Right Sector”, who took responsibility for the overthrow of the Ukrainian government by force.

    This information is confirmed by a recently published appeal of the Union of Law Enforcement and Special Forces Officers of Ukraine, which indicates that the Maidan fighters underwent sabotage training and are funded by foreign intelligence.

    The "Right Sector" unites adherents of the ideas of fascism and the construction in Ukraine of an analogue of Germany from 1933-1945. It is composed of several radical Bandera formations, which, through a number of firms, receive funds from various Western “pro-Ukrainian organizations” (they were created by special services of NATO countries in the days of the USSR, as an element of political struggle and support for national movements in the Union republics). These, in particular, include various unions of veterans and fighters of the OUN-UPA, foreign funds of “Ukrainian patriots”. Under the current conditions in Ukraine, including the indulgence of law enforcement agencies (at least to note “problems”), they found fertile ground for their prosperity, and nationalist sentiments continue to excite the minds of part of the Ukrainian population
  • +13
    24 February 2014 08: 55
    Not only Russians will suffer in Ukraine, as a result, everyone will suffer. After five years, wait for the influx of migrant workers from Ukraine, they will definitely replace Tajik janitors. In Soviet Asia, too, it all joyfully began with the abolition of the Russian language.
    Give time and we will return to Kiev, and Bendera will be driven back into the woods.
    Yanukovych bet on the wrong ones, he did not fulfill a single pre-election promise of rapprochement with Russia, he didn’t even make Russian a second language. I just want to ask in the great words of Taras Bulba: "What helped you, your Poles?"
    1. +10
      24 February 2014 09: 13
      In no case do not give yanyk asylum in Russia. Nafig we need this traitor. Dog death dog
  • +1
    24 February 2014 08: 55
    Believe in Putin’s brothers, no one Russian can save
  • +4
    24 February 2014 08: 57
    As of the early morning of February 22, I no longer fully understand who in Kiev is the real power.

    It is somehow untimely these days to give material on the 22nd, two days later on the 24th. That, in fact, it is still unclear who is in power there? Yanyk and his "leading and guiding" party have fled, or are still in Ukraine, but are hiding like Saddam in bunkers and burrows. Formally, the illegitimate (there is no quorum) rules the Rada and the same illegitimate Turchinov. And in fact, the real power belongs to the Maidan militants - the fascists of Yarosh. Forgot Mao? "The rifle gives birth to power." The "Right Sector" fascists have a rifle, and they are the real power. Whatever it was - Yanukovych formally remains the president. And he has the right to appeal to Russia to send troops to repel the fascist putsch. Here, if only I could find him! I recently read that allegedly the Russian military are trying to take him out of Crimea by sea. We have such experience - for some reason they saved the Russian troops from the well-deserved bullet of Georgian President Eduard Shevardnadze, taking him out of the flaming Sukhum by boat in September 1993.
  • +2
    24 February 2014 08: 58
    ... many of the "Russian-speaking" citizens who were tolerant of the Maidan, who thought that there was a fair struggle between the common people and the gang in power, will now begin to see and understand exactly what kind of power is replacing the current one. But you had to think before. And now - who is able to oppose? The militants are perfectly trained, organized, armed. These are frank extremist nationalists; they do not hide this. This is a completely anti-Russian movement in its spirit and form. Its tip is directed not only against the hated Moscow, but also against any native speaker of the Russian language and culture here in Ukraine.

    And now they no longer hide the true customers of the Maidan and chaos in Kiev (even the customers' flags are hung everywhere striped) Of course, the Russians are very frightening. But it seems to me that the owners of the "winners" rejoice too early ... Everything has been done "in an organized manner according to a clear plan"; those who are dissatisfied with the authorities are fighting (they found a scapegoat), and others took advantage of the "fruits". This already happened in 1991 and what they came to, the "hangover" in their heads will pass and it is not yet known how it will end for those who planned "Maidan" (Kiev will not be lost).
  • +12
    24 February 2014 08: 58
    On Saturday, a woman who works at a school drove up to the city. We had a very interesting conversation with her. She said that in Soviet times she worked in a kindergarten in Ukraine. Before Gorbachev, they didn’t even know what kind of Ukrainian language they were, everyone spoke Russian. And since 1986, they began to introduce it everywhere. He says that communication with children in kindergartens was mandatory only in Ukrainian. It was hard, implemented with a dictionary, none of the educators of this language did not know. Children all the more. Thus, one more time bomb was laid by the hunchback, which in our time has blown up.
    She also spoke about relatives in Kiev, who were all entirely behind the Maidan. Only in the last days they began to get to whom they played ON hand and where they all got together in a friendly manner.
    Hey brothers, come to your senses! Have you already forgotten who you really are?
  • +5
    24 February 2014 08: 59
    We were announced that Kiev was bombed and that a war had begun ..... (blow in the gut of Russia) and notice the first decree of the new government was "On the abolition of the Russian language" as the second state
  • +6
    24 February 2014 09: 00
    Kiev. Lost? ..

    Judging by the news, in the eastern regions, a strong fermentation began, let's hope that the fascists won’t get the job done!
  • Mikado
    +3
    24 February 2014 09: 02
    meanwhile, monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators have already begun to be demolished
    http://zn.ua/UKRAINE/v-lvovskoy-oblasti-snesli-pamyatnik-sovetskomu-soldatu-1395
    54_.html
  • +1
    24 February 2014 09: 14
    And why did our grandfathers give their lives to the Second World War, finishing off the fascist-Bandera kodla?
  • +12
    24 February 2014 09: 16
    "And Yanukovych and the gang have nothing to do with it, just as it had nothing to do with it initially"
    Well, yes "nothing to do with it." It looks like the authorities did not take the land away from the author of the article, they did not take away the enterprises, they did not demand a share in the business ... the regime was openly gangster. In Kiev, even from the intercity taxi-bombers, they began to remove the tribute. How many normal people got it .. And what the local princelings were doing .. up to the capture of forest and river areas, not to mention the lake. And nothing can be done legally - prosecutors and judges are their people. That is why the people did not oppose the extremists in defense of the regime. I am writing firsthand ...
    1. +7
      24 February 2014 09: 30
      Baracuda, you are right! But the "new government" is not going to change anything. They also eat from the same feeder. I communicate with the people of Kiev, even though they themselves go out at night to guard their homes, they still clap their hands and believe that everything is over. How can you not explain to them that soon the bandits (right sector) will start robbing them - they do not believe.
      1. +5
        24 February 2014 09: 40
        Yes, not only the "right sector", Europe and the United States will catch up, they will drive them into a debt hole, production will be finished off and a mustache - Ukraine is a banana republic and a raw material appendage, no one wants to think 10-20 years ahead.
        1. 0
          24 February 2014 12: 39
          Americans with a geyropa normally invested. probably more than once in history has it been that they have not recaptured their money. Typically, profits should exceed costs several times. So I think they will rob the country for a long time.
          And the fact that Yanyk is a bastard is indisputable! I went nuts from his residence in Mezhyhirya: there probably is everything there: starting from a golf course, ending with a hovercraft and a garage with a retro car. in general, the dude lived in a big way.
      2. +3
        24 February 2014 09: 49
        Baracuda, you are right! But the "new government" is not going to change anything. They also eat from the same feeder. I communicate with the people of Kiev, even though they themselves go out at night to guard their homes, they still clap their hands and believe that everything is over. How can you not explain to them that soon the bandits (right sector) will start robbing them - they do not believe.


        I agree with the opinion of Vladimir, at first some euphoria is felt. However, I watched on TV yesterday when the cart with Tymoshenko was stopped, Yatsenyuk came out and gave an interview to one of the Maydanists ... Yatsenyuk answered, and on his face it was written, what do you want, we won and you're just a little bolt in our big game, and I was sorry that the people of Ukraine were deceived once again, how many times have they already deceived us?
        1. 0
          24 February 2014 12: 44
          You know, I personally feel sorry. when this is done for the first time, everything is clear and excusable. and when this is done constantly and not only with our side, the people themselves are already to blame and let them pay for their idiocy and stupidity. I personally live in Kiev. so you understand, I'm not one of those. Who sits at a computer 1000 km from Ukraine. this whole situation made me so angry. how much time I was wasting in order to at least try to unite something ... so no: everyone is zombie. Now let the grief and the full ass touch them fully, then they might grow wiser !!!
    2. +8
      24 February 2014 09: 34
      Everything is correct, the power was gangster, only this gangster was many times more. This is just fascist. It was necessary to deal with that power not with the hands of extremists, supporting them, but with their civic identity. First, it was necessary to prepare a real alternative for a change of power, and then on the Maidan to go out to hold a rally. There was bad power, and as a result, you yourself raised those who are even worse to the throne. The hare had a bast hut, and the fox had an ice hut. The fox took, and she breathed in her icy bunny, and she herself settled in the bast. (Russian folktale.)
    3. +2
      24 February 2014 10: 28
      Quote: Barracuda
      How many normal people got it ..And what the local princes did .. until the capture of sections of forests and rivers, not to mention the lakes. And it is impossible to do anything legally - prosecutors and judges are their people. That is why the people did not stand against extremists to defend the regime.


      Here on this and caught ALL people. Meaning - sane. But Bendera neo-fascists, by the way, also grown up over the course of dozens of years, took advantage of the SILENT APPROVAL of normal people whom the Yanukovych’s authorities got ...

      Situation
      Quote: Barracuda
      And what the local princes did .. until the capture of sections of forests and rivers, not to mention the lakes. And it’s impossible to do anything legally - prosecutors and judges are their people
      very similar to ours, Russian, very much. Perhaps it is no coincidence that Putin was concerned about "revising" the results of the privatization of the 90s.
      I am glad that in Russia, outright fascists for decades have not been brought up and are not fostered. We have a better memory ...
  • +7
    24 February 2014 09: 18
    Datura project "Ukraine" is begins a madhouse, otherwise it is impossible to express. Only that one of the leading positions in the ministry will receive a representative of the ultranationalist "Right Sector" and the self-defense forces, the idea is whether they are adequate in the Rada, and the Minister of the Interior Arsen Avakov at one time fled abroad and was wanted at the request of Interpol on the Ukraine criminal article. In January 2012, the Ukrainian prosecutor's office opened a criminal case under Article 365 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine against Arsen Avakov on the fact of "malicious abuse of power and official powers that entailed grave consequences" during his time as a deputy.So the circus performance continues, the beginning of the 2-th branch ...
  • +1
    24 February 2014 09: 22
    STAND UP RUSSIAN PEOPLE IN MORTAL FIGHT, IN HONEST BATTLE!
    1. 0
      24 February 2014 12: 46
      a battle to the death, but you can’t call him honest. our enemies are pisses. never in life openly climb, although this is logical!
  • +3
    24 February 2014 09: 22
    The closest pension to pensioners and the salary of state employees will become a good cold shower. More precisely, its absence.
    1. +6
      24 February 2014 09: 36
      Soul - to whom? Bandera evromaydanutymi? Or mothers and fathers, together building a single state - the Soviet Union and the will of fate left in Ukraine? Or the children of ordinary, ordinary citizens who will soon have nothing to eat?
      You shouldn't take the position "it serves them right, and my house is on the edge." This is grief, great grief.
      1. 0
        24 February 2014 11: 26
        mothers and fathers who together built a single state - the Soviet Union and the will of fate left in Ukraine? Or the children of ordinary, ordinary citizens who will soon have nothing to eat
        Not. Those who raised these fascists. To their children. Let their evil children and fathers be cursed. And our hut is not from the edge.
        1. 0
          24 February 2014 11: 36
          That is, the non-extremist and pro-Russian population will not suffer, there is nothing to worry about?
          And the children of Bendera will not curse their parents. Who do children trust first? Parent. They will be brought up in the spirit of their parents, and the next "famine" (or, "cold shower", as you wish) will not lead to sobering up, but to an extremely opposite result - confirmation that all troubles are from Russia.
          1. 0
            24 February 2014 11: 48
            So who started this revolution? If they stop subsidizing Westerners, then they will suffer, but not as it may happen. Gladomor certainly will not. Not Ethiopia tea. Let Geyropa feed the Lions. Oh, Lviv.
    2. +1
      24 February 2014 11: 57
      Quote: povkonavt
      The closest pension to pensioners and the salary of state employees will become a good cold shower. More precisely, its absence.

      And again Russia will be to blame. Maydanuty will shout that Muscovites ... if brought to such a state of Ukraine and do not give them money. Of course, they will have a hangover, only there will be nothing to hangover, that’s their trouble.
  • wanderer_032
    +7
    24 February 2014 09: 24
    There is no doubt that the banderlogs will seize power, because whatever you may say, they are the most organized among this maydanutnoy audience. They are led by experienced mercenaries who have combat experience, who themselves trained young banderlogs for foreign financials.
    They are not like any Nicknames, Timoshenko, Yatsenyuk and other similar characters, only they are now a real armed force that cannot be ignored because it is deadly dangerous. These, as the character of the famous film said, "will butt to the last" because they have blood on them (and they know very well and understand that now the moment has come when they will start to "drain" and put them into consumption, but they themselves do not consider themselves a consumable), local liberals have no real leverage over them, and those who were able to fight them (The Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Security Service of Ukraine and the security forces in general) they discredited in the eyes of the entire local population. And now the "neutrals" and liberals will fully experience all the delights that were in Chechnya when there were bandit formations that did not obey Dudayev as a single leader as it was presented in the media of that time. In fact, ordinary militants obeyed only their field commanders, and everyone else was sent to a known address.
    Large-scale joint operations on the part of bandit formations were very rare, because the field commanders first had to get together for the "gangway", agree and, based on the results of the "bazaar", everyone made a decision whether he would go to work, whether it was worth risking their resources (people, technology, connections, etc.) or not.
    Basically, these were local operations carried out with goals very far from building a state with centralized power (robberies, hostage-taking, attacking places where there is money to do, make money on it and replenish their resources), the goal of any field commander who is friends with the head just do not allow this.
    This is in brief about the further situation as a whole.
    With these words, I just wanted to say my attitude to those who approved all the lawlessness on the Maidan in Kiev with shouts "YES FALLOUT COMES!":
    DO YOU STILL SIT ON YOUR EGGS AND DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO?
    BANDERLOGS ARE ALREADY CUT AND SOON THEY WILL COME TO YOU!
    But I’m important ... there’s nobody to protect. Eat with a bun.
    1. wanderer_032
      +4
      24 February 2014 10: 36
      Tymoshenko was released by liberalists with only one purpose. That she called for help GEY.ES.
      Right now, she will roll in her chic car ala "victim of the regime" (and putting on a more terrible face to give the image of a "victim"), in which she rolled onto the stage in Kiev after the "liberation" to Vienna to the UN headquarters, then she will go crying near the headquarters - OSCE apartments (fortunately, you won't have to move too far, since it is located there), and then will drive to Brussels to the NATO headquarters and complain about the "hard life" there. "Kind" uncles nod their heads with a serious look and give her a disposable paper snotty, as well as promise in the name of "gayropeyskoy crap" to figure it out, and raise the rainbow flag of GEY.ES, and give an order to their figuratively "blue helmets". "- Go ahead, make them bo-bo."
      The pinnacle of Yulka's voyage will be a tour to Strasbourg and her rehabilitation as a "victim" (perhaps a drunken midwife) and "laundering" by the decision of this court to "crown" her for the presidency. wassat laughing
  • +5
    24 February 2014 09: 29
    Quote: Dangerous
    About the financial condition. It is not so simple, because the European Union is not a bottomless barrel, a maximum for the first time will give money and even then, on credit. And practically all large enterprises belong to Russian business, and even this gas pipe ... So the Zapadents will not be happy for long, the Kremlin will start to twist their hands without tanks

    Will twist. But if you look at what Pinchuk, Kolomoytsev, Firtash, Akhmetov, Poroshenko, Yanukovych, etc. owns. - Russia does not have to rejoice. And all this pi ... brethren will protect their business under any government and influence the politics of Ukraine, and they do not care about the people.
  • +7
    24 February 2014 09: 31
    Before the New Year, it was necessary to knit all these Bendera bundles into the stadium. Like in Chile.
  • 3030
    +1
    24 February 2014 09: 34
    Kiev is lost !? When will we get the answer !?
    1. +2
      24 February 2014 09: 40
      You will not receive a response. Therefore, Kiev is already clearly lost, as is all of Ukraine.
  • dmb
    +3
    24 February 2014 09: 44
    Everything will be much simpler and much worse. Well, the "willows" will be cut, so it's nothing, our Western "partners" will only greet. But none of the shobla who replaced Yanukovych's shobla is simply unable to prevent Bandera's armed fans from improving their financial situation at the expense of the wealthiest part of their fellow citizens, among whom there are many representatives of the "Palestinian Cossacks." But this already does not correspond to the American-European values. In order for the values ​​to be restored, it would be nice to send troops, fortunately, you won't have to travel far. Further. Considering that our "fathers of the nation" keep their money in the same place where Yanukovych is, they will behave the same way. And idiots to bring down monuments, and remember how the bloody Russians oppressed, we have perhaps more than zapadentsev.
  • 0
    24 February 2014 09: 45
    I have the impression that what is happening now is somewhat useful. Masks are reset, and the truth comes out.

    To the point.
  • Vlad Gore
    +1
    24 February 2014 09: 45
    Quote: Burmeister
    I would like to slightly correct: there has never been a state "Ukraine". These lands are all Russian. And the current Geyropa was also once ours. They are just slowly "shrinking" us

    I agree. But I also want to fix it. We were once already "reduced" to the size of one principality. And now we are 1/6. And sooner or later we will return the current "bites".
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  • +3
    24 February 2014 09: 54
    Quote: regdan
    You will not receive a response. Therefore, Kiev is already clearly lost, as is all of Ukraine.

    Well, not really like that. Everything near me at Kiev, the truth arrived the day before yesterday at 10-00 two buses, ran off Lenin’s head and pulled off the ropes, the cops didn’t sound, and we all at work didn’t manage to react. If they get it, the people will be outraged, but so far nothing has changed . Frantic Maidan - not Ukraine. Sooner or later, sobering will come.
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  • 0
    24 February 2014 09: 55
    Quote: 123dv
    Now all the main events are transferred to the Crimea!

    Crimean Prime Minister Mogilev said that he will comply with orders of BP (((
  • -1
    24 February 2014 09: 55
    European Union "assistance" to reforms is on the way, but can you first look at the results of Europe's "assistance" to Yugoslavia? Where is the once self-sufficient country with a happy people now?
  • +2
    24 February 2014 10: 00
    The East now needs to: 1 Stop transferring money to the "government"
    2Turn off gas and electricity.
    3HAPPY to organize self-defense units.
    4 Determine your political requirements
    5 most importantly, the LEADER, capable of decisive action.
  • +1
    24 February 2014 10: 07
    Quote: Dangerous
    In Crimea, yesterday they decided not to transfer taxes to Kiev

    But didn’t they decide early? The holiday season has not yet begun.

    If CHE, then I am spiteful of hopelessness ...
  • +1
    24 February 2014 10: 08
    when the chains of comments will finally be built, are geniuses really working on other resources, I answer regdan the comment is embedded elsewhere, why then answer the icon?
    1. 0
      24 February 2014 10: 40
      maybe we’re doing something wrong? For some reason, I have a comment in two copies at once))
      1. 0
        24 February 2014 21: 33
        The Sevastopol site is generally oversized, it’s still normal. All major servers in the USA.
  • +2
    24 February 2014 10: 10
    Ukraine not divided.
    Ukraine for us temporarily lost.
    The right sector seized real power.
    Of all the types of ambassadors, there are 3: plenipotentiary, spicy, and "ambassador for ..."
    Zurabov - just the last ..
    Ukraine will follow the normal path of development, in friendship with Russia, but after a very difficult period for ordinary people in poverty, blood and ideological rushing from one extreme to another.
  • ed65b
    +5
    24 February 2014 10: 13
    Crimea and the east will sell Bandera how to drink to give. Do you see what they say in the Crimea and Kharkov ??? What united Ukraine do politicians talk about? no more, no. The people must storm the barracks and army depots to create militia units to change the power to appoint new mayors and governors. Time goes by and the delay in death is similar to what V. Lenin said. In Kiev, twenty thousand fighters think of twenty thousand. What can the east and Crimea oppose to them if the Euromaidan virus is spread across the country and in Kharkov with five thousandth columns until the demonstrators are militants tomorrow. If in the same Kharkov two hundred people armed with shields and sticks of maydauns entered the governor’s office and carried out a portrait of the still legitimate president and no one stopped them. What are you PEOPLE about? EVERYTHING .... finita la comedy. God grant that I would be wrong. Although I look at everything and this is the opinion.
    1. +1
      24 February 2014 11: 34
      Not. I agree. In the best case, a divorce is based on Czechoslovakia, but it will be similar on Yugoslavian.
  • +1
    24 February 2014 10: 17
    there is such a river near Kiev - Ros, from there the Dew, or as they later began to call them - Rus ... somehow wildly some hate their ancestors ...

    worried about the Olympic calmness of GDP. many live in yesterday. but today is a new day, today they will say: the base of Sevastopol get, natovelkom, and all this Russophobia will arise not far from Bryansk, Smolensk, Orel - in short, in Russia. and teleteleku will show tel.negotiations with merkel, with obamushka ... and the topic of conversation "what to do".
    they stood up for Syria, and then there is sovereignty, we’ll see.
    and if the economic component in Syria is gas of Qatar, which can bring down the price of Gazprom, then in Ukraine - the pipe and storage, or no one needs them?
  • 0
    24 February 2014 10: 22
    Kiev must be returned to the "Russian bosom of nature" - it was originally a stronghold of RUSSIA!
  • +2
    24 February 2014 10: 27
    Quote: Dangerous
    And practically all large enterprises belong to Russian business, and even this gas pipe ... So the Zapadents will not be happy for long, the Kremlin will start twisting their hands without tanks

    Inclined to believe. The first part of the thesis. To the dots.
    But about "twisting hands" - this is unlikely. It is precisely because of property relations that the leaders of the Russian state will not interfere in anything. Since the Russian owners of Ukrainian enterprises have successfully negotiated with the "corrupt" government of Yanukovych's team, they will want to reach an agreement in the same way with the current "bandit" Western government. And they will agree.
    And our Russian-speaking brothers in Ukraine will be neither better nor worse. The factories both worked and will work, bringing not weak profit to their Russian (and Ukrainian) owners. Under any authority.
    Well, mov, of course, have to learn. But they themselves chose this land. It must be consistent.
    1. +1
      24 February 2014 11: 40
      I agree except they themselves have chosen this land. They were not asked when the regions transferred from one republic to another. And the Ukrainian SSR was in vain blinded. Here it is the national policy of the Bolsheviks. And now they are dropping their monuments, but they should erect them.
  • +1
    24 February 2014 10: 30
    If the nationalists stop getting money from America (and this is quite predictable, since it was important for America to completely sign Ukraine under the "Euroassociation"), pogroms will begin! After all, nationalists do not want to go to the EU at all (they want sovereignty!)! And this means that another massacre will begin ... In which both the EU and Russia will have to harness (but America is unlikely to be allowed to wave their fists - WHAT IS IT BUSINESS?! ...... officially, no one signed for the loot for the Maidan ?. ....)
  • 0
    24 February 2014 10: 35
    only now there is no leader, and ate during the battle no one will take on this burden ...
    Here! No Leader, no !! Who will raise people who will voice the idea !? Maybe we don’t know these people here, but they are? Guys from Ukraine, refute, if not right!
  • +2
    24 February 2014 10: 35
    Quote: Barracuda
    Frantic Maidan - not Ukraine. Sooner or later, sobering will come.

    I think that very quickly oh how fast.
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  • 0
    24 February 2014 10: 37
    Quote: nod739
    there is such a river near Kiev - Ros, from there the Dew, or as they later began to call them - Rus ... somehow wildly some hate their ancestors ...

    ыhus
    Yes Yes! And near Saratov there is the Irgiz River. That’s where the Kyrgyz come from, or as they later began to be called, the Kyrgyz... some people hate their ancestors so wildly...
    wassat wassat wassat
    Stop with geography already, otherwise the word “dew” will be added to something from mathematics.
  • +2
    24 February 2014 10: 37
    In order not to lose CRIMEA and other cities, it is urgently necessary for the people themselves to collect signatures on a letter to RUSSIA so that Russia officially sends in troops in order to avoid genocide in Ukraine (Introduce specifically to the eastern part, where the majority of the population is Russian-speaking!)
  • +2
    24 February 2014 10: 40
    Quote: 123dv
    The problem with the loss of Kiev is closed, we drove through!
    Now all the main events are transferred to the Crimea!
    The main battle will be there and will not seem enough.

    Yes, no, comrades! We didn't drive through anything. You should not be content with little, you need to think as a whole - about a whole and indivisible Ukraine. The residents of Ukraine themselves are not able to resolve the issue of their future. Whereas we can and must help, lend a shoulder and fight off offenders. And you shouldn’t wait for words of gratitude - time and history will judge and give a confidently satisfactory assessment of the steps towards solving this crisis. Act! None of our enemies will be able to utter a word at us, except to poison themselves with their anger... All or nothing! Whole and indivisible Ukraine. You'll see - victory will be ours. Behind us - behind people who are reasonable and think sensibly!
    1. 0
      24 February 2014 12: 09
      Quote: Sultan
      victory will be ours. Behind us - behind Homo sapiens and those who think sensibly!

      Explain, dear, the meaning of the last phrase.
      Maybe there are some differences between the sensibly thinking Benderites and the sanely thinking oligarchs swollen with fat, or the sensibly thinking miners of Donbass?
      It must be assumed that no one intends to consider himself a psycho and will not give up his rightness...
      So who is the call for and who is the victory?
  • +1
    24 February 2014 10: 41
    Oil painting! After the “victory of democracy”, as a rule, the “winners” begin to share positions of power. And if at the top the process is somehow diverted by the West, then at the bottom and in the middle it will be just a massacre.
    The overthrow of Yanukovych in itself does not cancel the crisis in the country. The EU will not take anyone on its balance sheet (even under Yushchenko they didn’t take it - the navel would crack!). But in the Russian Federation, after Bandera’s fascists came to power, the desire to lend and write off will sharply decrease.
    So, dear ones, you will get what you wanted, soon you will have nothing to eat there, sit and think, luckily there will be no work either! hi
    1. 0
      24 February 2014 10: 51
      Are you rejoicing in grief?
      1. 0
        24 February 2014 10: 56
        Absolutely not. I look forward to the reunification of fraternal peoples.
  • +4
    24 February 2014 10: 49
    After the Belovezhsky dismemberment of the USSR by three scoundrels, in all the republics, nationalism, brought from overseas during perestroika, began to multiply like mold.
    Ukraine differs from other republics in that for the majority of its population Orthodoxy and the Russian language are as native as for Russian citizens.
    Hatred of Russia, whipped up by Ukrainian nationalists, is a disgusting, unforgivable, villainous fratricide. If the Nazis are not stopped, Ukraine will drown in blood. Bandera's men, the watchdogs of the United States, incapable of anything other than brutal murders and robberies. They have already shown their rotten souls by serving Hitler.
  • 0
    24 February 2014 10: 55
    http://youtu.be/uEtUe1I6824 Неужели правда ???
    1. wanderer_032
      0
      24 February 2014 12: 34
      Yes, these are probably Black Sea Fleet Marines stationed in Sevastopol, transporting armored personnel carriers from the training ground to the unit (maybe they were doing driving or some other training).
      If this MSR were on a “combat” march, then the marching column would look a little different.
      In addition to armored personnel carriers, the column would also have all sorts of auxiliary equipment and there would be much more people around the armored personnel carriers, all with weapons in their hands and full combat equipment.
      The equipment would be dirty and a civilian car would simply drive past the convoy and take a detour.
      It looks something like this:

  • Vlad Gore
    +2
    24 February 2014 11: 00
    In general, it would be more correct to use the term Little Russia. Because the “Ukraine” project is demonstrating its unviability.
  • Yaroslav
    +6
    24 February 2014 11: 04
    We are being provoked into retaliatory actions (an attempt at a scenario with Georgia). If the armed West goes east, blood will flow like a river. I can say with confidence that the main battle is still ahead and here we will have no choice but to provide military assistance to the east. All the shitcrats in the world are just waiting for this, and then you know - “Russian tanks are coming!”
    UKRAINE!.. WE WILL NOT LEAVE YOU!.. HOLD ON BROTHERS!!!
  • 0
    24 February 2014 11: 05
    Quote: Barracuda
    And nothing can be done legally - prosecutors and judges are their people. That is why the people did not stand up against the extremists to defend the regime.

    So in Russia, if something happens, the same nonsense will happen.
    That’s why I look at today’s eastern Ukraine with hope. Will she be able to define her interests and her statehood, or will all sorts of minorities decide for her who will shear this herd and let it go for meat.
    So far we are seeing the same nonsense as we have in Russia. All hope is in the uncle, who will come, solve everything and sort it out as it should. If now eastern Ukraine cannot do anything and surrenders to the occupation regime, which will decide everything for it, then nothing will happen to us in Russia, since we are the same. So we will be a bargaining chip and a consumable material.
  • Zabelin
    0
    24 February 2014 11: 09
    What is not shown to you on TV, but would be worth watching - http://24tv.ua/home/showSingleNews.do?zolotie_yaytsa_pshonki_kak_zhil_eksgenprok
    uror_foto&objectId=412844&lang=ru,
    http://www.bukovina.biz.ua/news/30362/
    1. wanderer_032
      +2
      24 February 2014 11: 26
      What is shown in the photo in the link you provided, we can definitely say that this is a “remake”, tinsel that maybe gives the housing a certain touch of “chic and shine”.
      But basically it speaks of the lack of aesthetic and artistic taste of the owner of this junk, which, by the way, may not be made from precious materials.
      Simply put, the owner of this wanted to throw dust in the eyes, show off, saying that the house “looks rich” and okay.
    2. 0
      24 February 2014 12: 31
      Quote: Zabelin
      What is not shown to you on TV, but would be worth watching - http://24tv.ua/home/showSingleNews.do?zolotie_yaytsa_pshonki_kak_zhil_eksgenprok

      uror_foto&objectId=412844&lang=ru,
      http://www.bukovina.biz.ua/news/30362/

      laughing Everyone has already looked at everything, the millet has been trained like a hamster, and the house inside and outside is in the “H.Okhlyatsky Empire” style, there is a lot of everything, most importantly gold, but no taste.
    3. -1
      24 February 2014 12: 56
      Quote: Zabelin
      What they don't show you on TV

      Dear, we saw it, not quite! And what do you want to say?
  • 0
    24 February 2014 11: 28
    <<<I think that many of the “Russian-speaking” citizens who were tolerant of the Maidan, who thought that there was a just struggle between the common people and the gang in power, will now begin to see the light and understand exactly what kind of government is replacing the current one. But we should have thought earlier.>>>
    That's it! You should have THINKED EARLIER! And now, as they say, it’s too late to drink Borjomi when.......... Now all that remains is to taste the fruits of the revolution, which Bandera’s Nazis famously carried out under the leadership of Western “sponsors” and expect “delights” from the European integration they are planning, which The Greeks, Bulgarians and other peoples of Eastern Europe have already tasted it! Or did someone think that under the banners and slogans of Bandera and the Galicia division it was possible to find a fair government that thinks about the people, about the “Russians”? For naivety, indifference to YOUR OWN DESTINY, passivity and, I don’t want to offend anyone, but, speaking frankly, stupidity and cowardice will have to PAY and many people WILL NOT LIKE this payment! Only ACTIVE cohesion and unity of the Russian people can save!
  • +3
    24 February 2014 11: 32
    People! Let's stop the verbiage. Let us state a fact – the American-Hitler Caudle won in (in) Ukraine. I will not be surprised that in 3-6 months, and maybe earlier, UN peacekeepers will appear on the territory of Ukraine, among whom there will be no Russians. And then the Balkan scenario, American bases, NATO, humanitarian missions, etc. The population of Ukraine wanted this, they have been striving for this for more than 20 years. The result is “in your face”. The intervention of our country (except for political statements) is not acceptable from any side, since it will be qualified as aggression, with all the ensuing consequences, up to and including military resistance from the “international” community. We are still weak in the knees for such a confrontation. Alas, this is reality, no matter how much probably half of the Russians who are related by kinship and friendly ties with the Ukrainians would like not to believe it.
    PS. About 15 years ago I had a quarrel over this with my wife’s Ukrainian relatives. Since then, contacts have been minimal (they are from near Poltava, they came to the Far East under the Stolypin reform. They are still not happy, everyone curses them... they are to blame, but for some reason they didn’t go back. That’s the logic...)
    Sincerely.
  • +2
    24 February 2014 11: 33
    The Maidan is over, but not for the stubborn Banderni, they continue in the same spirit and who says that they will stop there?
    1. wanderer_032
      +2
      24 February 2014 13: 06
      An example of what happens to those who allow themselves to relax internally while in the service.
      It seems that the Ukrainian guys in uniform are not quite catching up with the situation around them.
      I'm willing to bet that those who filmed this were specifically watching them at the gas station and caught the relaxed "gaymen", thereby taking them by surprise.
      Those who allow themselves to be treated this way are a disgrace to the ranks, as they say.
      And if the goal of the “attackers” was to seize weapons and vehicles, why would you also sit and bleat like a ram waiting for its fate in the slaughterhouse until they killed it?
      Good fellows a lesson.
  • +3
    24 February 2014 11: 35
    Guys, stop counting the percentage of Russian blood in yourself! If someone considers himself Russian (even an Uzbek, even a Kazakh, etc.) and gave birth to his children here, he will fight for this Motherland! And let THESE build their own MONO-ethnic state --- I wonder how long they will last? It’s an Empire, that’s why it’s an EMPIRE! Ask VAF - is there really only Russians in his unit? They probably drink vodka together and hang out together.
  • +2
    24 February 2014 11: 35
    The Automaidan movement will create its own party. This was stated on the air of the 112 Ukraine TV channel by one of the leaders of the Automaidan movement, Sergei Koba. "Automaidan? Yes. It will be a political party. We will do everything we consider necessary to achieve prosperity and success for our citizens in this country," Koba said.
    When asked whether Automaidan plans to unite with Right Sector or other organizations that were involved in the Maidan, the activist said: Automaidan is not uniting with anyone yet. I don't think there will be any merger in the near future. We are self-sufficient. We don't think we need any support, they can be our partners, but nothing more." “We controlled those previous ones, and now we will also control you. We will monitor each of you! We are moving into opposition to the new government,” he emphasized.
    Koba also warned the new officials about responsibility for corruption. “Let each of the officials, new officials, realize that they are coming to power to work for national interests, and not for their own business. Business is separate, power is separate. We will monitor this - according to the increase in your fortunes,” Koba said. The activist also warned that Automaidan would not accept any privileges in traveling on the city’s roads from the new government. "Not a single motorcade! Not for anyone! Hurry somewhere - take the metro!" - said the AutoMaidanovite.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139610.html
  • +9
    24 February 2014 11: 38
    Comrades, military friends from service in the Soviet Army! In Ukraine, through an armed coup, Bandero-fascists came to power! I urge former military personnel and all concerned people to go to the eastern regions and Crimea and organize detachments to resist the Bandera occupation, which will inevitably follow after their seizure of power in Kyiv. I myself will drop everything tomorrow and go to Crimea. I hope Russia will give us weapons, but no, we’ll seize them ourselves.
  • +2
    24 February 2014 11: 48
    Quote: nod739
    there is such a river near Kiev - Ros, from there the Dew, or as they later began to call them - Rus ... somehow wildly some hate their ancestors ...

    Why do we hate? We really appreciate it. Every summer I pitch a tent there on the shore for a week or two. And we don’t have banderlogs here, they only plow at construction sites, and they all remain silent so that they don’t get kicked out of work.
  • -1
    24 February 2014 11: 49
    Quote: Armata
    They said that Putin’s hands are tied with the Olympics. The Olympics is over, we will see how he will help the fraternal people.

    There should also be an Olympics for disabled people.
  • ed65b
    0
    24 February 2014 11: 50
    Regarding the gas pipe, dear Formus residents, this is a separate issue. My opinion is this. As soon as Bandera’s men straddle the pipe and tighten the valve, and they must do this according to the logic of the development of the situation, then the real fun will begin. Both Europe and Russia will face a huge problem. And if they also storm the nuclear power plant, then consider Yarosh the president with a hundred percent guarantee, because there is simply no real force there, but he is as real as ever. A reservation if they don’t buy it wholeheartedly. They will give him so much money that he will not be able to refuse it.
    1. +1
      24 February 2014 12: 43
      Of course, they are “maidanut”, but who will let them tighten the valve, it’s like spitting in the hand that gives food. Yes, the owners of the Maidanists themselves will break their necks. Business, nothing personal...
      Sincerely.
  • Maxim P.
    0
    24 February 2014 11: 53
    First, on the topic of the main article, let me remind you of the facts: Kyiv was “shocked” in 1991 with the collapse of the USSR and the formation of the state of Ukraine. Next, in 2004-05, during the “Orange Revolution” (and also with money from the State Department, how could it be otherwise) there was almost such hysteria about the fascists, Banderaites and pogroms of Russians. You can remember which of you wrote or said what then. As we remember, nothing special happened after that. Calm down, the opposition in most countries comes to power from time to time.
    1. smersh70
      0
      24 February 2014 12: 55
      Quote: Maxim P.
      Calm down, the opposition in most countries comes to power from time to time.

      This is not known in many countries laughing At most, at the end we should see the funeral and determine the next one based on the chairman of the funeral commission fellow
    2. +1
      24 February 2014 13: 00
      Quote: Maxim P.
      Calm down, the opposition in most countries comes to power from time to time.

      I categorically agree with you! Only in this majority does it come to power through elections! And in your case it is precisely in the minority! hi
  • gen-48
    +1
    24 February 2014 11: 58
    Despite the optimism of many, it must be admitted that Russia most likely lost Ukraine. Yes, many people who live there and remember our USSR have a head on their shoulders and know how to think, because... "What is good..." Mayakovsky was read. The majority of grandfathers and fathers died in the Great Patriotic War (and not in World War II, as many now prefer to call it). But most of these people are already over 2. And the “Maidanists” were able to attract young people with them. Go to the website “Glavkom-political news of Ukraine” and read user comments. There, not only the long-haired guys speak out, but also residents of the center and southeast. I was unpleasantly surprised, even stunned by the attitude towards us and our country; they do not mince words. This is how 40 years of brainwashing and the almost complete absence of our counter-propaganda affected us. But we will have to live next to these 20-20 year old “great Ukrainians” in the future. Maybe I’m wrong, but they went with their Maidans, rads, lard to ....! Apart from the army and navy, we have only Belarusians. It would seem - well, who else is needed, but no, something doesn’t grow together. Just as Ukraine was blabbed, we can screw them too. I wouldn’t want this, their dad is cunning, but not an “immortal highlander.” It’s a pity for Crimea, but there’s no point in fighting like some computer warriors here are calling for. If blood spills, everyone will choke.
  • +1
    24 February 2014 11: 59
    Quote: Egoza
    The Automaidan movement will create its own party

    I responded just for fun. we rode around for 5 hours with flags, they gave us 100 bucks, that’s the whole “party”.
  • Maxim P.
    -2
    24 February 2014 12: 02
    Quote: bistrov.
    How can you not understand that what is happening in Ukraine is a slap in the face, first of all, of Russia and the Russian people! Don’t take the “ostrich pose” (sticking your head in the sand, pretending that you don’t see or understand anything) Well, will the Russian people abandon their compatriots to desecration and destruction? Now terror against Russians will begin, the law on regional languages ​​has already been repealed, total forced Ukronization begins again, and those who disagree they will slaughter, rob property and burn houses, as they are already doing in the western regions.At least give me a weapon to defend myself! Then, with the establishment of fascist-Bandera power in the eastern regions and Crimea, Russia will have to withdraw its fleet from Sevastopol, it will be forced to do this, or it will still have to fight in order to stay there. If Russia now silently “wipes itself out,” then in a couple of years years, and perhaps even earlier, her turn will come. They won’t let you live in peace, they will start a civil war in your country, according to the same scenario.

    Yes, my friend, you are a provocateur. Many such dreamers have written and are writing here about “mass robberies and pogroms” - give us the links right away.
    1. 0
      25 February 2014 04: 50
      Quote: Maxim P.
      Yes, my friend, you are a provocateur. Many such dreamers have written and are writing here about “mass robberies and pogroms” - give us the links right away.

      Please. Yesterday the house of the first secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine Symonenko was set on fire.
  • Jeglov
    -1
    24 February 2014 12: 09
    The South-East asks Russia and Putin personally to say only one thing: will they support us or can we calm down and prepare to bow to the new lords? Russia, say something, please stop being silent! The Olympics are over.
    Although the answer seems clear... At least accept them as refugees, since they couldn’t help
  • Maxim P.
    +1
    24 February 2014 12: 13
    Quote: Luzhichanin
    Pay attention to the bulk of the militants - these are young people on average from 15 to 30, look who opposes them - mostly for 30-40. For all the shootings, this is visible, even in the southeast, mostly adults are against it, young people are hardly noticeable.
    Here's your answer: 20 years of brainwashing have worked.

    Young people who were no longer born under the Soviet Union... excuse me, not during the USSR are completely different. Yesterday we talked with the guys from the “self-defense” in Ternopil - about whether it would be worth making Tymoshenko president. Once again I was surprised - teenage boys, as we say “gamnyars”, are able to think and draw conclusions at the level of political scientists. By the way, they unanimously said that it’s not worth it.
  • Maxim P.
    +2
    24 February 2014 12: 19
    Quote: Rattenfanger
    You will be even more upset when you find out that Kievan Rus began with Novgorod.

    Wow. "Veliky Novgorod is one of the oldest and most famous cities in Russia (in 2009 it officially celebrated its 1150th anniversary)." And Kyiv celebrated its 1982th anniversary in 1500. And on the stone it is written - this is where the Russian land came from.
  • Maxim P.
    +3
    24 February 2014 12: 25
    Quote: Magadan
    Keep your chin up! Here is some interesting news for thought - the governors, among which the majority of WESTERNNES have resigned !!!!:
    “At the moment, Oleg Salo (Lviv region), Valentin Khoptyan (Ternopil region), and

    Well, these are mainly the “regionals” and their henchmen. The Party of Regions in the western regions relied on local people. They were hated here even more than the Donetsk ones, it’s clear why.
  • 0
    24 February 2014 12: 29
    Quote: Jeglov
    The South-East asks Russia and Putin personally to say only one thing: will they support us or can we calm down and prepare to bow to the new lords? Russia, say something, please stop being silent! The Olympics are over.
    Although the answer seems clear... At least accept them as refugees, since they couldn’t help

    The idea is good, but we need to restore order ourselves, and not wait for the Tsar-Father, but the oligarchs who support the mess won’t let them, Yanyk and company got them. What a country where they openly laugh and curse the president and prime minister. There are plenty of weapons for those who want them. God forbid, of course, to use it.
  • Maxim P.
    0
    24 February 2014 12: 36
    Quote: Dangerous
    In Crimea, yesterday they decided not to transfer taxes to Kiev

    The subsidized region refused to transfer taxes, wow. Yes, Sevastopol is maintained by the state. budget. The next “breadwinners” were found.
    1. -1
      24 February 2014 13: 03
      Quote: Maxim P.
      Yes, Sevastopol is maintained by the state. budget. The next “breadwinners” were found.
      Do you count the money that Russia pays for the rental of naval bases?
  • +2
    24 February 2014 12: 42
    .
    KYIV residents on the side of the Maidan.

    Yes Yes. Do not be surprised. The vast majority of Kiev on the side of the Maidan. All whom I called. Everyone whom my friends called. EVERYTHING on the side of the Maidan, support the Maidan.

    No, they do not participate in battles, do not go in formation, not militants in general. But ideologically on their side, ideologically they are supported and whoever can help with what. They can bring food, they can throw money, help the bruschatka to make out .... They tolerate, are sympathetic to everything that they do. And blame the authorities for everything. In the destruction of the city, in unrest, in ruin.

    This is just some kind of !!!!!!!!

    Normal like people with higher education ....

    Who are you, WE going to help? They did not ask for help. Moreover, they are completely consciously against us. You see, EVERYONE with whom I and my friends spoke !!!!!!!!!!!

    They were brainwashed to such an extent by propaganda. But they did it so skillfully that they do not notice it and consider their opinion absolutely independent and objective. In addition, the Yanukovych clan and the orders created by him really got everyone. Another thing is that we understand that even BIG gangsters and idlers could knock down such a bandit.

    In general, in order to help Kiev, it is necessary for the people of Kiev to have enough of the fascist order, even more gangster lawlessness and devastation. And you need your own massive and effective counter-propaganda. Without this, Kiev cannot be returned.
  • Maxim P.
    0
    24 February 2014 12: 43
    Quote: Renat
    I feel sorry for the people who will be working off the loan.

    In fact, Russian loans will also have to be repaid. The last transfer - to the already dying regime - turned out to be completely stolen. I’m not such an idealist, but at least for the first time under the new government, control over money will be stricter. At least until the elections, so as not to set yourself up.
  • +2
    24 February 2014 12: 48
    I don’t know the author, but I hope I won’t be offended for publishing here

    Putin: - And we have gas in Russia! And you?

    Yanukovych: - And we have a coup, here.

    Lukashenko: - And we have one potato,
    But we have her so much
    What do we care about your gas.
    No coup
    Our people will not allow it!

    Putin: - And we have the Olympics.
    What else is necessary for happiness?
    And all the people rejoice. Here!

    Yanukovych: - And we have a coup, here ...

    Lukashenko: - But in our country
    Thanks of course to me
    There are neither poor nor rich
    All live only on a salary.

    Putin: - And we are skiing in Sochi
    Everyone will be able to relax.
    Both the official and the worker.
    Here is such a grace!

    Yanukovych: - And we have a coup, here!

    Obama: - Well, I generally all countries
    They send potatoes, gas, bananas.
    Who will not send bananas -
    That coup. Here.
  • -1
    24 February 2014 12: 48
    now Vova will wait.....everything is hoped to release everything on the brakes...the introduction of troops and other stuff Russia doesn’t need now....
    It all depends on Yulka. If she manages to saddle the nationalists, then everything will be fine - they will agree, concerts will begin again like under Yuscha...... and if not, then they will have to introduce......
    If you think pragmatically, then none of those who are now in power in the Russian Federation will in any way help the fraternal people and millions of Russians. The main thing they are interested in is money! Active opposition will begin when financial interests are affected, if there are attempts at raider takeovers bought up by Russian business and industrial oligarchs. enterprises, gas fraud, attempts to get out of debt, then the oligarchs will send in troops to protect their interests....
    Whoever comes to power in Ukraine now, they, as legal successors, are obliged to assume the obligations and debts of the previous government. This also applies to the Black Sea Fleet and gas debts.... So no one lost leverage over Ukraine....

    But if attempts by pro-Western puppets begin to throw off the yoke of obligations, then another regime change will occur in Ukraine to one more loyal to Russia
  • Maxim P.
    -1
    24 February 2014 12: 52
    Quote: Svetlana
    It was necessary to deal with that power not with the hands of extremists, supporting them, but with our civic consciousness. First, it was necessary to prepare a real alternative for the change of power, and then go to the Maidan to rally. There was a bad government, and as a result you yourself installed those who were even worse on the throne.

    “Everyone is as smart as I am later.” The beginning was spontaneous. They beat up teenagers on the Maidan who sat there at night for European integration, and the next day half of Kyiv took to the streets. This was the last straw.
  • -1
    24 February 2014 12: 56
    Quote: povkonavt
    The closest pension to pensioners and the salary of state employees will become a good cold shower. More precisely, its absence.

    It’s already starting, delays of up to a week have begun, pensioners are slowly starting to grumble. The situation is the same with state employees. I think it will be worse next. until last month it was day by day.
  • Maxim P.
    0
    24 February 2014 13: 06
    Quote: AlexA
    And our Russian-speaking brothers in Ukraine will be neither better nor worse. The factories both worked and will work, bringing not weak profit to their Russian (and Ukrainian) owners. Under any authority.

    I hope it's at least a little better. Absolutely not, but it will be possible to partially remove the shadow schemes, when all the profitable positions are bought, and almost all organizations carry money in suitcases “to Kyiv” once a week. It's like a parallel taxation system, through fines and bribes.
  • serge
    -1
    24 February 2014 13: 07
    50 billion dollars invested in the Olympics in Sochi! Oh my! If 50 billion dollars had been invested in the creation of Russian self-defense units in Ukraine, it would have long been ours, from Odessa to the very outskirts.
  • +1
    24 February 2014 13: 11
    if we don’t put things in order in Ukraine, they do not give a damn about all the formalities, as those who made the coup did, then in half a year or a year it will also happen in Russia, only in a much more bloody form. You will have Western saboteurs, and Arab militants, and Ukrainian fascists who cannot be distinguished from Russian people, and mercenaries from private security companies, and the collapse of the country ....

    and if you put things in order in Ukraine, I'm sorry, they’ll dare to go to Russia.

    the front line now runs through Ukraine. if you surrender Ukraine, the front line will move further east, to Russia. This must not be allowed!
  • Maxim P.
    +1
    24 February 2014 13: 14
    Quote: Dormidont
    only now there is no leader, and ate during the battle no one will take on this burden ...
    Here! No Leader, no !! Who will raise people who will voice the idea !? Maybe we don’t know these people here, but they are? Guys from Ukraine, refute, if not right!

    No, probably no one will refute it. In the southeastern Russian-speaking regions, the population is politically passive. There was not a single unpaid mass rally in Kyiv against the Maidan; only state employees and volunteers were transported (for a modest payment). Now, if at least a thousand ideological people gather (and not just for once, but for a long time, with tents), then leaders appear among them. Now it’s true that something more or less spontaneous is beginning, but weakly and uncertainly. It's like shaking your fists after a fight.
  • Maxim P.
    0
    24 February 2014 13: 24
    Quote: bistrov.
    Comrades, military friends from service in the Soviet Army! In Ukraine, through an armed coup, Bandero-fascists came to power! I urge former military personnel and all concerned people to go to the eastern regions and Crimea and organize detachments to resist the Bandera occupation, which will inevitably follow after their seizure of power in Kyiv. I myself will drop everything tomorrow and go to Crimea. I hope Russia will give us weapons, but no, we’ll seize them ourselves.

    Please write in this thread about your successes. I personally don’t support you at all, but everyone is interested in what you can do. Try not to do irreparable things.
  • -1
    24 February 2014 13: 58
    Damn, so much! In 1991, they cut the country up according to the living, in the sense of the living Russian people. The Russian people have become the most divided nation in the world, but it’s okay, they lost it. It’s like it’s their own fault, they shouldn’t have lived there. The genocide of the Russian people will now begin in Ukraine, and again it’s their own fault, they should have united into groups. And who will plow and feed the family? Unlike the Maydowns, who are not paid by anyone, no one needs the Russians, survive on your own, fight on your own if necessary, but everything is fine with us, as many as 13 gold medals at once. Now the maydauns will take Kharkov, and there it’s not far from Belgorod.
  • Maxim P.
    +1
    24 February 2014 14: 00
    Quote: gen-48
    There, not only the long-haired guys speak out, but also residents of the center and southeast. I was unpleasantly surprised, even stunned by the attitude towards us and our country; they do not mince words. This is how 20 years of brainwashing and the almost complete absence of our counter-propaganda affected us.

    There was and is counter-propaganda, only it achieves opposite goals. I’ll repeat my comment from an older thread, instead of downvoting it’s better to discuss it, the problem of Russian-Ukrainian relations worries me.
    "Quote: Magadan. I think the moves from Russia will be: 1) Work in the information field. We will hammer into the heads of these Galician-Banderaites that they are slaves, recently liberated by the Russians from under the Poles and Austrians, where they were really considered like cattle. They weren’t even allowed to teach their children their native language!”
    This work has already been carried out, and for a long time. The result is the opposite, but why is it unclear? Read a couple more times what they are trying to “drill into your head,” and how a normal person might feel about it. Let’s say, from the point of view of a European, I would try to hammer home to a Russian that he, a lapotnik of Finno-Ugric blood, is a born serf slave, a dirty, uncultured drunkard, and only European culture gave him writing and electricity (THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, NOT MY OPINION!). So how?
    Meanwhile, anti-Ukrainian propaganda has been going on in the information field for many years. That Ukraine is not a state, the Ukrainian language is not a language, the lands were donated, there was no history at all, Ukrainians are not a people and betrayal is in their blood, etc. This is usually called Khokhlosrach. On many forums and in the comments there are teams of obviously paid trolls who leave dozens of messages like “bandrlog-kakly, go ahead and wash the pots in the geyrop.” The same “information” appears in the media in a toned down form. What does this lead to? Toward polarization. The majority who consider themselves Ukrainians eventually develop a reciprocal hostility and a greater commitment to Ukrainian culture. The minority is becoming more pro-Russian and distancing themselves from the “Westerners,” even to the point of hating the Ukrainian language, although they continue to live in Ukraine. By and large, there are no benefits; the first group is gradually increasing. In general, such an information policy only harms Russian-Ukrainian relations, and from year to year sympathy between peoples decreases, especially between Russians and Ukrainians. Should we be surprised?
  • -1
    24 February 2014 14: 09
    But send all Ukrainian migrant workers back to their homeland! Most of them are from villages in the west of Ukraine. Introduce a visa regime during unrest in the country. In the eastern regions, distribute Russian passports with a limited validity period. Send troops to Crimea to “ensure the security of the fleet and base.”
  • +2
    24 February 2014 14: 24
    In any case, it is necessary to introduce Ramzan’s units into Crimea. Here they will calm down the local Tatars and give them a slap!
  • 0
    24 February 2014 14: 37
    http://onlinepetition.in.ua/obrawenie/petition.html
  • +1
    24 February 2014 14: 48
    According to Riga.Rosvesty, Right Sector plans to seek the appointment of its leader Dmitry Yarosh as head of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU). At this post, Yarosh intends to focus his efforts not only on suppressing any dissent in the East and Southeast of Ukraine, in the Crimea, but also to carry out active subversive activities against Russia using SBU units in the border regions.

    According to Yarosh, the priority of the “extraordinarily” activities of the SBU under his leadership should be the destabilization of the situation in the Voronezh, Belgorod and Kursk regions with their further possible separation from Russia. Yarosh believes that the disintegration of Russia is in the interests of the development of Ukraine.

    Yarosh hopes that if he is appointed head of the Security Service of Ukraine, he will be able to achieve entry into the SBU of the Foreign Intelligence Service of Ukraine.


    http://inosmi.ru/sngbaltia/20140224/217850996.html#ixzz2uETPbRRd
    1. +1
      24 February 2014 14: 53
      That's it, this dude is dead! What will happen? - HZ
  • +1
    24 February 2014 14: 52
    As usual, no one will fight against the Westerners. Russia should not support losers. Again they will succumb to persuasion, again they will choose someone unknown, again they will be deceived by conversations about the “Russian language”, taking into account their interests... again there will be “a fig in your pocket”, again complete impotence. The Westerners have the will, they have personnel, etc., but in Crimea there are costumed Cossacks, pensioners, etc. Well, do at least something, otherwise it will be like with those clowns in Kharkov - they say we will die on the spot, but we ourselves will go straight to the airport and fight in the Russian Federation, and what for are we such sell-outs, we have enough of our own crap. Crimea talks too much, but Galicians act.
  • 0
    24 February 2014 16: 45
    The ancients said: “Everything will pass, this too will pass,” and Kyiv, as it was, will remain “the mother of Russian cities.”
  • 0
    24 February 2014 19: 44
    There is even no doubt that the “Maidowns”, like a pathogenic virus, will take over the whole of Ukraine. Recent events confirm this. “Talking heads” and clowns with Russian flags will remain so; they will not be able to lead anyone into an attack. There is really no one to oppose the maydauns. Some 70-year-old grandmothers and stoned young people won’t climb into the trenches, the rest, who are more nimble, will simply disappear to their relatives in Russia. The people have nothing to lose, because there is nothing anyway. The people have been deceived and fooled so many times that putting their ass under bullets without guarantees that life will change for the better, and not hang them as a traitor on a pole, is more expensive for themselves. Russia will not become a guarantor. This is not to fight with the Georgians. There is a possibility of starting a full-scale world war. But, as usually happens, we are not ready for it. Therefore, we have to look at everything from the outside. It’s a pity that the West is once again poking us in the face, and we have nothing to answer.