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The latest Russian multi-purpose missile system "Cornet" can easily cope not only with tanksbut also with helicopters and even drones


At the RAE 2013 autumn international exhibition of arms in Nizhny Tagil and at the recently held in New Delhi DEFEXPO 2014 multipurpose rocket complex "Cornet" aroused great interest among international buyers. According to the annual publication of the British International Institute for Strategic Studies MilitaryBalance, at least 12 countries of the world are armed with the Russian Cornets. It is noteworthy that this list includes Turkey and Jordan, focusing in their purchases more on Western models of weapons and military equipment.

For five years, the holding company “OJSC“ High-Precision Complexes ”has taken a worthy place in the international and domestic markets for weapons and military equipment. Such products of an industrial association, such as the Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and cannon complex, the Bumblebee flamethrower, and others have taken a firm place in the arsenals of many countries of the world, as well as the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Thus, by their anniversary the employees of the holding company achieved high results. Let us hope that in the near future, "High-precision complexes" will achieve even greater success in the development, production and export of the latest types of weapons and military equipment.

Over the past 15 years missile system Tula KBP managed to participate in several wars and military conflicts. During the second Lebanese war in July-August 2006, the Kornety was successfully used by Lebanese militants from the Hezbollah movement against the Israel Defense Forces. The targets for the operators of the complexes were not only Merkava family tanks, but also Puma heavy armored personnel carriers converted from Centurion and even armored bulldozers used by the Israeli military to fight fortifications during city cleansing.

According to many foreign experts analyzing the experience of using Israeli armored vehicles in the second Lebanon war, it was the active use of the Kornet anti-tank missile systems and their unexpected effectiveness for the Israeli army that forced the Israel Defense Forces command to equip the Trophy active defense complex as soon as possible. ".

According to unconfirmed reports, the Cornets were used by Iraqi troops against the US Army during the invasion of Iraq in 2003 year - in the so-called first part of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Such information is contained on the US GlobalSecurity website, in particular, the article states that two main battle tanks M-1 Abrams and one BMP Bradley were victims of the Cornets. True, there was no official confirmation from the Pentagon, but in the memoirs of the commander of a tank company of the 3 Infantry Division, Captain Jason Conroy, “Heavy Metal. A tank company in the battle of Baghdad "indicates that the" Cornet "was perceived by American tank crews as one of the most dangerous threats on their way to Baghdad.

In the warring Syria, the "Cornets" use not only government troops, knocking out insurgents from buildings and fortifications, but also rebels, destroying tanks and armored vehicles of government forces. Judging by the photo and video chronicles, rocket complexes are equally effective both against structures and against armored objects. It should be borne in mind that the level of training of Syrian operators, compared with their colleagues from Hezbollah, is not the highest.

ATGWs are also effectively used in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. If in the Ground Forces use portable versions of ATGM, then in the Airborne Forces there is a mobile version of the anti-tank missile system on the chassis of the BTR-D armored personnel carrier.

What makes the "Cornet" so attractive to buyers and what new models of the missile system will we see?

Thunderstorm tanks and fortifications

Work on the anti-tank "Cornet" began in the Tula KBP at the beginning of the 90-s, and in 1994-m the first parties began to enter into service with the Russian army. ATGM was created on the basis of a controlled tank complex. weapons "Reflex", included in the ammunition of the main Russian and Soviet battle tanks of the families T-72, T-64, T-80, as well as self-propelled anti-tank units "Sprut-S" and "Sprut-SD".

"Anti-tank missile systems of the previous generation were controlled either by wire, unwinding a rocket, or radio teams," Vitaly Moiseev, editor-in-chief of the Internet project "Courage-2004", explained to the newspaper "VPK".

Versatile and ultra-preciseAt the same time, the Cornet’s management is similar to high-precision aviation means of destruction. A laser emitter is mounted on the launcher to illuminate the target of the rocket. The reflected beam is perceived by a laser photodetector mounted on a rocket, and the guidance system, using four thin folding wings, corrects the flight, focusing on the readings of the photodetector.

“In the past-generation ATGM, the accuracy of the hit depended on the operator, his eye, and the coordination of movements. Focusing on the light tracer installed in the tail section of the rocket, he corrected its flight by radio control or by wire, using a joystick or, as the military say, a joystick. I made a mistake in calculating the trajectory, jerked a little to the side - and the missile would pass by the target, - the officer of the missile and artillery armament service of the Ministry of Defense told our correspondent.

According to the interlocutor of the publication, "Cornet" is deprived of such shortcomings.

“The wire could break, clinging to an obstacle or as a result of an unsuccessful maneuver. Radio control can drown out interference. The laser can also be suppressed theoretically by placing smoke from the tank and closing the “picture” to the operator, but, as experience shows, at a sufficiently high speed of the standard “Cornet” rocket, it still manages to hit the target, ”the Defense Ministry spokesman said.

Designers of the Tula KBP, creating the "Cornet", immediately focused on the fight against tanks equipped with dynamic protection, which became an obligatory attribute of most modern combat vehicles in the middle of the 80-s. Therefore, the 9М133 rocket received a tandem warhead, where the first charge was destroyed by elements of dynamic protection - iron boxes with explosives, when undermined, the anti-tank ammunition is thrown to the side or destroyed, and the second charge hits the tank directly. It is noteworthy that to create an effective cumulative jet of the second, the main one, the rocket charge is in the tail section, the engine equipped with oblique nozzles is in the middle, and the control system is located in the tail section of the rocket.

As the experience of modern wars and military conflicts shows, anti-tank guided missiles are increasingly becoming a means to combat fortifications and the enemy entrenched in buildings. ATGM “Milan” was effectively used against the fortifications of the Argentine military by British marines and paratroopers during the short conflict over the Falklands in 1982. Soviet anti-tank special forces "Phagot" beat out the fortified caves of the "spirits" in Afghanistan, and the 21-I Sofrinsky operational brigade of the MIA, storming Grozny in the winter of 1999 – 2000, effectively beat out firing points of militants in residential buildings and industrial buildings. Over the past 30 years, such examples have accumulated more than enough. But we must bear in mind that, unlike armored vehicles, the cumulative warhead is not so effective against enemy manpower. Therefore, in the arsenal of "Kornet" there are missiles with a thermobaric warhead that allows you to effectively destroy firing points, engineering structures, as well as the enemy hiding in them.

Multi-purpose missile system

According to Vitaly Moiseev, now the world is abandoning anti-tank missile systems guided by operators: “They were replaced by ATGM with missiles equipped with homing heads. For example, the American "Javelins" and Israeli "Spikes", acting on the principle of "let and forget." Such complexes are also called the third generation.

The rockets of the American and Israeli anti-tank missile systems of the third generation detect and take on the support of armored vehicles using the reference image embedded in the guidance system and the heat emanating from the targets.

“The main problem of Javelina is the high cost of the rocket, reaching 120 – 130 thousands of dollars apiece. This is a very expensive pleasure that not all countries of the world can afford. Now India is developing a promising infantry fighting vehicle armed with Javelin, the estimated cost of its ammunition is approaching the price of the BMP itself, ”explained Moses to the publication.

The expert also noted that, compared with the second-generation anti-tank systems, the third-generation missile systems are much smaller.

“The Javelin rocket flies to a range of about 4700 meters, but its homing head effectively works only on 2500 meters, and then the efficiency drops significantly. For example, the already mentioned promising Indian infantry fighting vehicle will reach the effective launch range of the Javelina, it will be destroyed, ”Vitaly Moiseyev said.

The source also noted that modern battle tanks hit targets at a distance of 3 – 3,5 thousands of meters.

There are problems with the use of third-generation complexes in urban environments.

“During active fighting in Iraq in 2003, in the open area, the Javelins effectively destroyed Iraqi tanks, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles. But here in settlements, the cases of their use are unknown to me. The Americans have now equipped their ATGMs with manual control. The Israelis also acted with their “Spike,” said Vyacheslav Tseuyko, an independent military expert, one of the authors of the book “Aliens Wars”, told our correspondent.

In addition, according to the expert, the US Army and Marine Corps in urban battles were actively used by the second-generation Tou-90 anti-tank missile systems of the second generation installed on the Bradley, Stryker armored personnel carriers and advanced vehicles. patency "Hummer."

“The Delta’s special forces officers went to storm the building, in which Saddam Hussein’s sons sat down, only after about a dozen Tou-2 missiles were fired at the building,” explained Tsyluyko.

In Tula, the KBP went the other way, having equipped the Kornet ATGM with automatic target tracking. “The operator visually detects the target, brings a launcher at her and puts a mark. Further PU itself corrects the flight of the rocket to the target, without human intervention. The accuracy of the target guidance and target tracking system makes it possible to effectively hit complex targets, even such as a helicopter and an unmanned aerial vehicle, ”says a RAV officer in the Ministry of Defense.

According to the interlocutor of the publication, such a decision not only reduces the cost of the complex itself, but also makes it more multifunctional, without losing tactical and technical characteristics.

“With the new Kornet missiles, it can hit targets at a range of up to 8 thousands, and in some cases even up to 10 thousands of meters. At the same time, the effectiveness of the guidance system is maintained throughout the entire flight distance of the rocket, ”explained the source.

An upgraded version of the ATGM is supplied to the Armed Forces of Russia under the symbol “Cornet-D”, and exported as “Cornet-EM”. It is noteworthy that the newest ATGMs were transferred to the chassis of an armored car of off-road "Tiger". The presentation of the updated version of the Cornet was held at last year’s international arms exhibition in Nizhny Tagil.

The Kornet was highly appreciated in the Airborne Forces, having not only a portable version of the ATGM, but also on the landing gear of the BTR-D armored personnel carrier.

“The peculiarity of the use of airborne and airborne assault units of the Airborne Forces is the action in isolation from its main forces, often in the rear of the enemy. Therefore, one cannot count on the support of his artillery and tanks. "Cornet" can not only effectively deal with enemy armored vehicles, but also destroy its fortifications. With a relatively small weight of the ATGM launcher and its ammunition “Cornet” does not reduce the mobility of paratroopers performing the combat mission, ”argues the officer of one of the divisions of the Airborne Forces.

The source also noted that the ATGM increases the firepower of the paratroopers several times. “ATGMs on the BTR-D can be parachuted, just like regular BMDs. This machine is floating, quite passable. At any moment he will support the paratroopers with his fire, ”the paratrooper stressed.

The Cornets have found their place in the Air Force and in the Aerospace Defense Forces.

“Now“ Cornet ”is considered as an addition to the newest Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and gun systems. Due to the high characteristics of the sighting system, as well as the power supply and maneuverability of the anti-tank missiles, the anti-aircraft complex can easily knock down a UAV or enemy helicopter. “Pantsir” detects the target, transfers its coordinates to “Cornet”, and it already destroys it, ”the Russian Air Force officer familiar with the newest complex explained to the newspaper. According to him, the range of destruction of targets with Kornet’s missiles is much larger than with the Pantsyr automatic cannons: “The UAV is a complex and unobtrusive target. In principle, it can be shot down with a regular Pantsir anti-aircraft missile, but it is an order of magnitude more expensive than a “Kornet” missile. It should be borne in mind that the drone, which is not always well marked for the homing head of an anti-aircraft missile, can effectively evade, tearing the grip. But visually, the UAV for optics and the Cornet thermal imager is clearly visible, and the high-precision tracking machine will bring the rocket exactly to the target. ”

True, our interlocutor refused to explain at what stage the work on adopting the multifunctional Kornet missile system for the Russian Air Force was at its disposal.

The “Cornet” is also considered as the weaponry for the latest boats purchased for naval special forces fleetas well as patrol ships.

Almost in 20 years since its inception, Cornet has gone from an advanced, but highly specialized anti-tank missile system to a multi-functional system capable of fighting the enemy not only on land, but also at sea and even in the air.

Cornet and export

According to Vitaly Moiseev, Kornet has a large export potential, which is proven by its customers: “By the criterion of“ cost-effectiveness ”in its class, it now has no equal”. It’s hard to disagree. "Cornet" occupied a niche between the complexes of the third generation, which it exceeds in cost, range of destruction of targets and universality, and complexes of the second generation, inferior to "Cornet" in autonomy.

“Not all countries are willing to lay out thousands of dollars for a Javelina rocket at 120 – 130,” said Moses.

True, the "Cornet" has a strong competitor in the face of the Israeli "Spike" company "Raphael", which is much cheaper than the American counterpart, but inferior to him in tactical and technical characteristics. Now the Israeli complex is in service in almost 20 countries of the world, including Italy, Finland, Germany. It is noteworthy that the British armed forces procuring the Javelins from the Americans actively use Spike, which received the British name Exector. Even the Pentagon conducted a series of tests of the Israeli anti-tank complex in the middle of the 90-s.

But the newest Kornet-EM multifunctional missile system has a very good export potential and the ability to significantly press the Israeli Spike from the international arms market. The example of Israelis proves that the demand for third-generation ATGMs in the world is huge, but even the rich developed countries of the world are not ready to overpay for complex homing headpieces. The sighting system with the Kornet assault rifle is an order of magnitude cheaper than that used in the Israeli Spike, not inferior to the latter in performance. A number of foreign directories indicate that the effective range of the Israeli ATGM is almost 25 thousand meters, which, to put it mildly, is puzzling, given the size of the rocket itself. True, at the latest arms exhibitions at the Rafael manufacturer’s booth and in a number of publications, a more modest figure is indicated - eight thousand meters. The combat unit of the Russian “Kornet” missile weighing almost five kilograms is heavier than the three-kilogram Israeli, and taking into account the spaced design of the charges, the Tula missile will be much more effective. But the main thing in the multifunctionality of the Russian missile system is that the buyer gets a system that can not only hit armored vehicles, strengthen the enemy, but also shoot down his helicopters and even unmanned aerial vehicles. Apply the "Cornet" for sea and river operations. The Israeli Spike, which remains an advanced anti-tank missile system, does not have such capabilities. In the current armament market, such a multifunctional system is supplied only by the Russian holding company High-Precision Complexes. Moreover, the “Cornet-EM” is not an experienced promising machine, work on which is only underway, not a technical concept, but a full-fledged rocket system that has been tested and supplied to the Armed Forces of Russia.

Chief Editor of Arsenal of Fatherland Magazine Viktor Murakhovsky made a forecast about possible buyers of the newest Kornet-EM multifunctional missile system: “If you evaluate the military threats from different countries of the world, then Cornet-EM will be interesting to the countries - neighbors of China, which has a large tank the park and significant forces of army aviation, and the neighbors of Pakistan, which also has strong enough armored forces. "

According to the expert, in the Middle East "Cornet" should be interested in Algeria and Syria.

“The complex will also be interesting to Egypt, especially since now the volume of military cooperation with this country is increasing again,” said Victor Murakhovsky.

Also, the chief editor of the magazine Arsenal of the Fatherland expressed the opinion that the Cornet would also be interested in the armed forces of the countries that purchased the Pantsir anti-aircraft missile system.

For several years, the Tula Instrument Engineering Design Bureau, which is part of the High-Precision Complexes holding company, has achieved amazing results by creating a unique Kornet missile system capable of destroying the enemy both on the ground, in the sky and in the sea. The multifunctional missile complex has a large export potential, which is also claimed by the Russian military. It remains only to congratulate the creators of "Cornet" on the anniversary and wish not to stop there.
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  1. Professor
    Professor 22 February 2014 08: 30
    +1
    “In the past-generation ATGM, the accuracy of the hit depended on the operator, his eye, and the coordination of movements. Focusing on the light tracer installed in the tail section of the rocket, he corrected its flight by radio control or by wire, using a joystick or, as the military say, a joystick. I made a mistake in calculating the trajectory, jerked a little to the side - and the missile would pass by the target, - the officer of the missile and artillery armament service of the Ministry of Defense told our correspondent.

    According to the interlocutor of the publication, "Cornet" is deprived of such shortcomings.

    Not deprived. The second generation rocket depends on the operator, there is no homing or as they like to say "fire and forget"

    “The main problem of Javelin is the high cost of the rocket, reaching 120-130 thousand dollars apiece.

    $ 70-80

    The expert also noted that, compared with the second-generation anti-tank systems, the third-generation missile systems are much smaller.

    Expert horseradish. Spike UFO - 25 km.
    1. Army1
      Army1 22 February 2014 17: 30
      +7
      In general, something like Spike is being developed here, it is called Hermes, maybe it is included in GPV-2020.
      Spike range, depending on the modification, is different.

      Mini-Spike - version with a short-range missile (about 1500 meters). Designed for use by infantry. The mass is 12 kg, and the weight of the rocket itself is only 4 kg. Projectile length - 70 cm, diameter - 75 mm.
      Spike-SR - version with a short-range missile (near 200 — 800 m.), Designed for use by infantry (close combat, in urban environments). Weight 9 kg.
      Spike-MR (also known as "Gil") - a modification with a medium-range missile (in the range of 200-2500 meters). Used by infantry and special forces. Weight is 26 kg.
      Spike-LR - a more long-range modification (maximum range 4000 meters). Used by infantry and for arming light combat vehicles. Weight 26 kg.
      Spike-ER (formerly known as NT-Dandy or NT-D) is a heavy long-range variant (maximum range of 8000 meters). The complex is available in versions for mobile combat systems and for helicopters. Weight is 33 kg.
      Spike NLOS (Eng. Non-Line Of Sight), "Tamuz" - anti-tank missile with a range of 25 kilometers and optoelectronic guidance, to hit targets that are out of line of sight, which can use external target designation. Weight 71 kg.

      The cornet, as we see in the range, is not inferior, with the exception of the Spike NLOS, which is a tactical anti-tank missile with an interesting possibility of obtaining intelligence from reconnaissance UAVs, well, other things.

      If you take into account the Cornet, it is cheaper, many countries can allow it. It is not inferior to the usual spike, not Spike NLOS, which is essentially a tactical complex.
      Hermes can be called an analogue of Spike NLOS, which is used, by no means often, this is an expensive weapon.
      We must also admit that Spike NLOS is perfect for Israel, for its area, it is stupid to compare it with Cornet.
      Cornet-D acts on the principle of Shot-forgot.
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 February 2014 17: 37
        0
        Quote: Army1
        Cornet-D acts on the principle of Shot-forgot.

        No, it is not. Shoot and sit quietly until the missile reaches the target. About the fact that would take cover or "dump" in general there is no question. And if someone, God forbid, attacks the launcher, then the rocket can forget about the target.
        1. Army1
          Army1 22 February 2014 17: 48
          +4
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Army1
          Cornet-D acts on the principle of Shot-forgot.

          No, it is not. Shoot and sit quietly until the missile reaches the target. About the fact that would take cover or "dump" in general there is no question. And if someone, God forbid, attacks the launcher, then the rocket can forget about the target.

          Explain, maybe I don’t understand or you confuse with the first simple Cornet.
          The technical vision used in the Kornet-EM complex (export Kornet-D), together with a target tracking machine, make it possible to realize the “shot and forget” principle.
          1. Professor
            Professor 22 February 2014 18: 10
            -1
            Quote: Army1
            Explain, maybe I don’t understand or you confuse with the first simple Cornet.

            GOS is neither on the simple nor on the golden Cornet. Because he is the 2nd generation.

            Quote: Army1
            The technical vision used in the Kornet-EM complex (export Kornet-D), together with a target tracking machine, make it possible to realize the “shot and forget” principle.

            "technical vision" (video camera) and the automatic tracking machine are located on the launcher, and not on the rocket, and instead of the operator turning the fine-threaded knobs, the automatic machine does it for him. The launcher swung and the laser beam led the missile into the milk. A launcher was bombed or the attacked tank drove over a hillock and the missile missed.

            You ask the supporters of "technical vision" to show us how a tank looks in their eyes at a distance of 8-10 km (owls secret information and no one saw it. laughing the video from GOS Spike is full, and not only Israeli. I saw Polish, American, Peruvian, Korean) and you yourself will understand what is the probability of his defeat. I have a Tsayzovskiy twenty-fold spyglass and an 8 km tank to discern into it is not at all trivial.

            Total: no "fire-forget" there. There "fired and sit and wait until the rocket reaches." hi
          2. badger1974
            badger1974 22 February 2014 22: 36
            +1
            no, there is a binding to the equipment in the cornet, the channel can only free the operator from one target to another., the manufacturer is silent about this, read ATGM hornet, 4 communication channels
      2. Army1
        Army1 22 February 2014 17: 37
        +4
        Here is for the interest of Spike NLOS
        1. Professor
          Professor 22 February 2014 17: 39
          -2
          and here in Korea
          1. Army1
            Army1 22 February 2014 17: 52
            +1
            Quote: Professor
            and here in Korea

            And it works against ships. There are just a lot of experts now, I don’t argue that we have that in the West.
      3. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 23 February 2014 04: 10
        +1
        A number of foreign directories indicate that the effective range of the Israeli anti-tank systems is almost 25 thousand meters, which, to put it mildly, is bewildering ...

        I propose to the author to defend his point of view. bully
        The author gets into the tank, and on it exactly with 24.999 m Spike NLOS is launched. laughing
        If the Author survives, I will support his perplexity. fellow
      4. Voronbit
        Voronbit 24 February 2014 21: 35
        +1
        thank you exhaustively
    2. kind
      kind 22 February 2014 19: 03
      +1
      I agree with you that there are no ATGM systems in the world that are independent of the skill of the operator.
    3. badger1974
      badger1974 22 February 2014 22: 32
      +2
      do not desecrate the professor, he takes the cornet and the seven with the corresponding grenade also makes 60 tons of merkava into a heap of iron from a walking bunker 70 with a lighter, do not lie, but at the expense of a blurry johah, it’s worthless ... I don’t need anyone
    4. dustycat
      dustycat 23 February 2014 15: 58
      +2
      Quote: Professor
      $ 70-80

      This is the price at the fair.
      The price for the "end" consumer is about $ 120.
      1. Professor
        Professor 23 February 2014 16: 02
        -2
        Quote: dustycat
        The price for the "end" consumer is about $ 120.

        ... and in confirmation of your words you provide the following links:
        .....
        .....
        .....
        PS
        Here is the article I have been translating. In doubt? wink
        ATRA Javelin
        Command start block (CPB) M98A1
        Price - $ 126000 (2002 g.)

        Rocket in the transport and launch container and power supply and cooling unit
        Price - $ 78000 (2002 g.)
        1. badger1974
          badger1974 24 February 2014 02: 26
          0
          so what and what parish 80 bahli? here are the worthy prices, I found it when it got hot, it's easier for such a price to recruit a company of women with "sevens", and there will still be a dough for an awl, so that the family would live
        2. Voronbit
          Voronbit 24 February 2014 21: 14
          0
          Yes, all this is nonsense ......... task-defeat goals-100%
    5. Voronbit
      Voronbit 24 February 2014 21: 09
      0
      eff in battle ....... a lot of parameters
  2. Professor
    Professor 22 February 2014 08: 46
    +3
    “The Javelin rocket flies to a range of about 4700 meters, but its homing head effectively works only on 2500 meters, and then the efficiency drops significantly. For example, the already mentioned promising Indian infantry fighting vehicle will reach the effective launch range of the Javelina, it will be destroyed, ”Vitaly Moiseyev said.

    Fantasy expert. In the third generation there are no such problems. If the GOS captured the target at the start, then the distance to the target no longer matters.

    But in settlements, the cases of their use are unknown to me.

    Banned in YouTube? There are a lot of Javelin use videos in Afghanistan.

    The Americans have now equipped their ATGMs with manual control.

    request

    “With the new Kornet missiles, it can hit targets at a range of up to 8 thousands, and in some cases even up to 10 thousands of meters. At the same time, the effectiveness of the guidance system is maintained throughout the entire flight distance of the rocket, ”explained the source.

    Not true. Unlike the same Spike where, as it approaches the target, the missile "sees" the target better, Kornet's target tracking is carried out from the launcher, which remains at the maximum distance. No automatic target tracking will help here.

    Due to the high characteristics of the sighting system, as well as the power supply and maneuverability of missiles, ATGMs can easily bring down an UAV or an enemy helicopter.

    Easy? And already shot down? laughing

    But visually, the UAV for the optics and the Kornet’s thermal imager is clearly visible, and a high-precision tracking machine will bring the missile exactly to the target

    An electric drone is not visible to the Kornetovskiy thermal imager.
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 22 February 2014 22: 43
      +1
      Banned in YouTube? There are a lot of Javelin use videos in Afghanistan
      Yes, because in Afghanistan there were no such cases except shelling of our UAZ
  3. Professor
    Professor 22 February 2014 08: 54
    +5
    True, Cornet has a strong competitor in the face of the Israeli Rafael Spike, which is much cheaper than the American counterpart, but inferior to it in terms of performance characteristics.

    TTX in the studio.

    A number of foreign directories indicate that the effective range of the Israeli anti-aircraft missile systems is almost 25 thousand meters, which, to put it mildly, is bewildering, given the dimensions of the missile itself. True, at the latest arms exhibitions at the stand of the manufacturer Rafael and in a number of publications a more modest figure is already indicated - eight thousand meters.

    You just need to be able to read. The spike family is not one model. So from the exhibition:


    The warhead of the Russian Cornet rocket weighing almost five kilograms is heavier than the three kilogram Israeli rocket, and taking into account the spaced charge structure the Tula missile will be much more effective.

    Spike also has a tandem warhead.

    We apply the “Cornet” for sea and river operations. The Israeli Spike, which remains an advanced anti-tank missile system, does not have such capabilities.

    All. I'm tired. Let him teach the materiel.



    1. cdrt
      cdrt 22 February 2014 11: 54
      +2
      Professor - Do not dream before ... the author laughing
      His goal is to congratulate the creators on the anniversary, at the same time lying about the best (lack of analogs - where without this, traditions must be respected) laughing
      Perhaps ptrk cornet is really the best among the complexes a la hellfire (which is without GOS), some kind of mapops.
      Well ... cheap Spike / Javelin. In addition, it is available for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - Mzrail de is unlikely to sell Spikes of the Russian Federation.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 22 February 2014 23: 00
        +7
        Quote: cdrt
        Professor - Do not dream before ... the author
        - Do you naively believe that the professor has beads there that he can throw? laughing You are clearly confusing the professor’s digestion products with beads, so I’m still afraid that you have never seen beads, but just heard the saying and apply it to and from the place laughing
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 23 February 2014 03: 37
          0
          Quote: aksakal
          I’m still afraid that you have never seen beads ...

          How to say... lol
  4. Nayhas
    Nayhas 22 February 2014 09: 19
    +8
    Lord. Earlier, when discussing the topic of the Su-35, it was reported that the author of this article, Alexei Ramm, is, to put it mildly, a bad man.
    olp RU February 20, 2014 12:30 ↑
    the infamy of Aleksey Ramm (it was previously published under the pseudonym Aleksey Mikhailov) lies in the fact that in the vast majority of his articles he, relying on grains of correct information, completely distorts the meaning, while demonstrating glaring incompetence, obvious even to me - just an amateur

    Can we conclude from this that everything written in the article is an obvious lie and speculation?
    1. PLO
      PLO 23 February 2014 11: 57
      +4
      and there
      the author could not even correctly describe the principle of Cornet guidance by confusing the laser-beam guidance system with a semi-active laser.

      the rest of the article is a set of standard stamps and advertising
  5. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 22 February 2014 10: 08
    -1
    An old but reliable complex like Kalash can and is relevant for fourth or fifth countries. With modern means of protection of armored vehicles, complexes are needed two or three generations above protective equipment.
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 22 February 2014 23: 41
      +3
      Justify the category, what is the generation of ATGM ??????
  6. Vadim12
    Vadim12 22 February 2014 10: 13
    +6
    Designers can create better javelin according to their characteristics, but the price .. no one will buy it. Therefore, Cornet is an excellent anti-tank system for export, taking into account the price-quality ratio.
  7. Vadim12
    Vadim12 22 February 2014 10: 14
    0
    And with Javelin, I shot .. in Battlefield 3, not really ..) smile
  8. Dimsan
    Dimsan 22 February 2014 10: 25
    +5
    The professor in your comments certainly makes sense, but the cornets stopped Israeli tanks in Lebanon! And your vaunted spike did not help the Israelis at all. !!! And in Syria, the militants fell in love with them, and government troops do not disdain them. But the javelins, although used in Afghanistan, but their effectiveness there is a big question, the javelin is still special in technique. And the main thing in all this is the price of the issue, Jay is over the road, the javelin is a little less cheap, and the cornet costs a little, and the efficiency is off scale. Speaking of prices - the author is clearly a little lost, spikes are more expensive than javelins.
    PS And the argument is who is better who is better to stop worse, the three of them are the best !!! with its pros and cons!
    Mini-Spike - version with a short-range missile (about 1500 meters). Designed for use by infantry. The mass is 12 kg, and the weight of the rocket itself is only 4 kg. Projectile length - 70 cm, diameter - 75 mm.
    Spike-SR - version with a short-range missile (near 200 — 800 m.), Designed for use by infantry (close combat, in urban environments). Weight 9 kg.
    Spike-MR (also known as "Gil") - a modification with a medium-range missile (in the range of 200-2500 meters). Used by infantry and special forces. Weight is 26 kg.
    Spike-LR - a more long-range modification (maximum range 4000 meters). Used by infantry and for arming light combat vehicles. Weight 26 kg.
    Spike-ER (formerly known as NT-Dandy or NT-D) is a heavy long-range variant (maximum range of 8000 meters). The complex is available in versions for mobile combat systems and for helicopters. Weight is 33 kg.
    Spike NLOS (Eng. Non-Line Of Sight), "Tamuz" - anti-tank missile with a range of 25 kilometers and optoelectronic guidance, to hit targets that are out of line of sight, which can use external target designation. Weight 71 kg.
    1. zaazua
      zaazua 22 February 2014 11: 05
      -2
      And your vaunted spike did not help the Israelis at all. !!!

      Where did he not help?
    2. Professor
      Professor 22 February 2014 11: 53
      -4
      Quote: Dimsan
      The professor in your comments certainly makes sense, but the cornets stopped Israeli tanks in Lebanon!

      Like tanks were going to take Beirut, and the cornets stopped them?

      Quote: Dimsan
      And your vaunted spike did not help the Israelis at all. !!!

      1. Poke, young man, you will dad with mom.
      2. Where necessary I helped.


      Quote: Dimsan
      Sleep over the roads, the javelin is a little less cheap, and the cornet costs a little, and the efficiency goes off scale.

      Exaggerates your amateurism. How much is a Cornet? wink
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          1. Jack7691
            Jack7691 22 February 2014 22: 36
            +3
            Well, of course, without nationality, but in the Sinai the sun is brighter.
            And the fact that the Star of Galilee rolled up without starting - this is due to the weather (the snow has begun) :)))
          2. badger1974
            badger1974 22 February 2014 22: 48
            +3
            there is no generation of ATGMs, there are efficient and not effective ones, Jova is ineffective in price-shot and in price-shot-hit rates, so do not la = la
          3. dustycat
            dustycat 23 February 2014 20: 36
            +4
            Blame the lads, but the Professor is right in some ways.

            1. The product can actually reach 11 + -0,5 km. But the target itself (unmasked) was able to identify at this range only in the 152mm amateur telescope. The regular sighting system was found only at 7 and then on the hill. Against the background of the hill, they could not be found with 5. If the object was masked in an ambush, then it was generally unrealistic until it unmasked itself.
            A thermal imager is a good thing, but it can also see from no further than 7-8 km if the operator is a stubborn bore and ass. And he bet on a bottle of "Napoleon". :)

            2. Stability of auto-tracking at this range (7 km) is possible only with a ground-based sighting system. In particular, they simply framed the bearer. Otherwise, even a light side wind was enough to rock and disrupt the escort. But it seems that something was done with this on later modifications. We did not come across a complex "cured" of windphobia.

            3. The cornet has a dignity - the aiming point can be moved along the way, so long as the displacement does not exceed 30gr of the product's field of view at the point of flight and you can shoot at the taken out sighting system. You just need to somehow synchronize it with the carrier complex. Then it is really possible to hit a target at the maximum flight range and even in the form of a maneuvering airborne small-sized target even into a catch-up with a direct hit (products with a seeker with remote detonation and with warheads with shrapnel are not produced - the manufacturer should think about it). It is possible to organize AT defense according to the strongpoint option (on a carrier with an increased number of items on board) with sighting complexes-spotters placed in the first line. The affected area of ​​10 km (about 7 km along the real front) is easy. It is only necessary to supplement the set of media with either coils of an optical cable of 5-6 km or some other means of remote data transmission over this distance. In the set of the tested carrier there is such an opportunity, but only for 15-20m, and it must be somehow more convenient for field conditions to be implemented - with those cables, as it is done with the remote sighting complex, it is too heavy and inconvenient. You can, of course, with an optical cable in the form of a field wired line and adapters that are self-made on the knee as we did, but something wireless is better. Or, for example, make a "hot" corrective interception of guidance after launch, from a pre-guidance station. For example, they fired a bullet into the slope of a hill (12 km) using a complex located on the carrier, then extinguished its beam and illuminated the target from a close distance (4 km from the target) with another sighting system synchronized in optics. The product entered the "window" 0,5x0,5m at a range of 9,5. But this is a perversion! It is worth adding to the standard system as something more elegant.
            4. There is an option for "wireless" remote lighting. With the help of a wearable lighting station.
            5. But the laser beams - and you can see from the thermal imager where they are shining from in the night vision devices even in fog and twilight and into the tank, which is slightly more sophisticated than just an optical sight.

            So the cornet for its generation and price is certainly good, but you can do better and at almost the same price of the product. Although even a 1,5 times higher price with the proposed extra twists will be much more attractive than a javelin or spike (with a comparable range).
            1. Professor
              Professor 24 February 2014 10: 57
              0
              Quote: dustycat
              5. But the laser beams - and you can see from the thermal imager where they are shining from in the night vision devices even in fog and twilight and into the tank, which is slightly more sophisticated than just an optical sight.

              You still forgot to talk about target irradiation with a rangefinder laser.
  9. Dovmont
    Dovmont 22 February 2014 10: 29
    +12
    Mdaaaaa! Professors broke through the campaign! Looks like a live article touched!
    1. zaazua
      zaazua 22 February 2014 11: 06
      0
      So the author ignoramus, grinds rubbish!
      1. SkiF_RnD
        SkiF_RnD 22 February 2014 15: 29
        +2
        One does not interfere with the other, right? laughing
        Comments on it are good that a person can emphasize that the article is bullshit smile and you don't need to believe her (or, on the contrary, praise her). Prevents authors from persecuting any heresy. As for the "Cornet", this is a good 2nd generation ATGM. They see heaven, we can use a new, third generation. And then, if you think about it, maybe the "Armata" is not needed? T-90 there, go and you look cheaper for sure. And the Su-50 is not needed. We will conquer the market of fifths. fool About the UAV pleased. the author simply does not know what he is writing about, for a small UAV, a short-range air defense system can naturally miss. And here already ATGMs are shot down by small-sized NLCs. In general, a good ATGM. Well, don't compare it with "Javelin" and "Spike". They (I read about Spear, about Rafaelievsky - no) their cockroaches have a full bedside table, but this is another weapon, not an analogue of ATGM like "Tou" and "Cornet".
        1. Russkiy53
          Russkiy53 24 February 2014 13: 35
          0
          By blah, I don’t know about the cornet and the shell, but I don’t get the tunguska ... I saw it myself.
        2. Voronbit
          Voronbit 24 February 2014 21: 41
          0
          you say it right. you need to develop tactics ... in principle ... and our three-line can be very effective
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev 22 February 2014 19: 51
        +3
        Quote: zaazua
        So the author ignoramus, grinds rubbish!

        I wonder if many of the "scientists" who are actively educating here, who know everything about anti-tank missiles, have seen the flight of an ATGM of any generation not on TV and the Internet, but in "nature"?
        Or is their destiny a pure theory? Pharisees and scribes? lol
        But the theory is boring, and the "tree of life" is wildly green. yes
        In order to firmly know the true characteristics of any weapon, not only ATGMs, its strengths and weaknesses, one must personally participate in its combat use, then it is desirable to know production processes as well. And not just smart books to read.
        Sometimes some seemingly insignificant "little things" do not allow using the colossal potential of a particular system.
        I would invite an engineer, a practical officer, to the "studio". After all, it is not dry performance characteristics that are interesting, but the analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of the weapon, the experience of its combat use.
        1. Voronbit
          Voronbit 24 February 2014 21: 47
          0
          Engineer from KBP to the studio!
        2. Voronbit
          Voronbit 24 February 2014 21: 52
          -1
          buddy! sales indicator!
  10. BARKAS
    BARKAS 22 February 2014 11: 02
    0
    “In the previous generation ATGMs, the accuracy of the hit depended on the operator, his eye and coordination of movements.

    “The wire could break off, clinging to an obstacle or as a result of an unsuccessful maneuver. Radio control can be drowned out by noise.

    In our exercises, such a case was fired by such ATGMs at the BRDM base, the operator fired a rocket flying several tens of meters, fell for a moment, lying down as a frog began to jump across the steppe in all directions well, not back to the BRDM after a few seconds, it calmed down and detonated, then they gave the command to fire another vehicle absolutely the same thing happened then they said that the sights were out of order, but I clearly saw the cruise engines turned on when the missiles were on the ground, it was not our unit that was firing what actually happened there, I don’t know we were firing from the newest at that time "SHTURM-S" what problems with them have never been! They shot perfectly!
    1. _CAMOBAP_
      _CAMOBAP_ 23 February 2014 12: 15
      +5
      Once I commanded an anti-tank battalion in the Airborne Forces, only ATGMs were in service - "9M111" and "9M113". For all the time I do not remember a single case of wire breakage. A couple of three times there were "disagreements" of the rocket and once - the main engine did not turn on. And the launches were made in dozens, in total, more than one hundred launches were made. The operators were trained so that they could drive a rocket into any hole - if only this "hole" in the sight could be seen. It is clear that "fire and forget" is the best, but the price is also not a secondary issue. Yes, to detect the launch site of the ATGM - if the position is properly prepared, the task is also quite difficult.
      PS: By the way, someone wrote above about the "developed eye" - it's not very clear why the operator needs it?
  11. Olegmog
    Olegmog 22 February 2014 11: 33
    +2
    Well Professor! Did not leave the slightest chance to debate
    about this theme.
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  12. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 22 February 2014 12: 15
    +2
    We would have him in the army and more. am
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 23 February 2014 12: 44
      0
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      We would have him in the army and more. am

  13. Kus Imak
    Kus Imak 22 February 2014 13: 45
    +1
    Since the author is unlikely to answer, it would be interesting to know the real value of the cornet and spike?
    1. Professor
      Professor 22 February 2014 14: 00
      +4
      Quote: Kus Imac
      Since the author is unlikely to answer, it would be interesting to know the real value of the cornet and spike?

      Don’t be offended if I repeat my comment?
      Regarding the cost of Spike, not so simple. In the USSR, usually the cost of the product did not include the costs of the NKR, the State Planning Commission planned, the ministry allocated money and the design bureau created the product. Further, the product went into production and the price is defined as materials and labor (roughly speaking). A couple of years ago I came across an article on the development of an RPG-7, I was very impressed with the number of research institutes and the people who worked to create this product. If you include all the costs of developing an RPG-7, then it would be worth its weight in gold. But this is history and today it doesn’t matter how much the development cost since there is an excellent result.
      In the West, the cost of NKR is included in the final cost of the product, the best example of this is the F-22. And so Spike, (Javelin costs about $ 80'000, Cornet $ 40'000) On January 10, 2007, Spain announced that it was buying 2600 Spike missiles and 260 PUs from Raphael for $ 424.5 million. If we assume that the launcher is worth like two missiles, then not taking into account simulators, training, etc. the cost of a shot will be about $ 130'000.
      India bought 321 launchers, 8356 missiles and 15 simulators for a billion dollars, which makes a shot cost about $ 100'000. Not a little, but Spike will be more advanced than Javelin in both firing range and homing system. In general, it is necessary to compare the cost of the ATGM with the cost of the tank, its maintenance and the cost of training the crew. And then $ 130'000 won't seem like much. In 2006 and 2008, the IDF used Spikes against the fortified positions of the "freedom fighters" and even managed to lose one in Lebanon (they simply forgot). The MO quickly requested a cheap alternative and received mini Spikes.


      Here is an authoritative published report:
      "March 2009: The deal is announced. Peru will reportedly buy 244 of Russia's laser-guided AT-14 / 9M133 Kornet anti-tank missiles for $ 25 million. Another 244 of RAFAEL's dual-mode wire-guided or IIR (Imaging Infrared) fire -and-forget Spike missiles will bought for $ 48 million. "
      (translation: March 2009 of the year: A deal was announced. Peru announces the purchase in Russia of 244 AT-14 / Cornet 9М133 laser-guided 25 million dollars. Other 244 dual-mode cable-guided or infrared seeker-launched missile rake-forget Spike will be purchased for 48 million dollars).

      Since the same number of missiles was purchased, the number of launchers should be approximately the same (information about 24 launchers of Spikes passed), which makes the price ratio of 1 to 2.
      Peru Orders Israeli, Russian Anti-Tank Missiles

      In the 2010 year, it was reported that Peru bought 288 Cornets for $ 23.7 million and 288 Spikes for $ 55.8 million (there were no reports on the number of launchers and simulators).
      Questions About Big Ticket Military Purchases

      There is also a continuation of Javelin: Cheap portable high-precision pocket infantry US infantry
      1. Kus Imak
        Kus Imak 22 February 2014 14: 09
        0
        Thank you very much, you are always on top.
        1. beard999
          beard999 22 February 2014 16: 25
          +16
          Quote: Kus Imak
          You are always on top

          Your “professor” in his usual repertoire doesn’t know a damn about the topic under discussion and is trying to build himself a great specialist ... On points.
          1. Regarding the cost. Peru’s example is nothing at all. Absolutely. For such transactions, it is not possible, in principle, to determine the cost of one rocket in a specific contract, because they indicate the total amount, which includes the cost of ATGM, PU, ​​TPV sights, simulators, training calculations, options (which are different for each country), service, delivery, etc. etc. For example, in 2005, Eritrea sold only 80 ATGM 9M133 with a total contract amount of $ 170 thousand. http://haa.su/uGG/. And it turns out that the cost of one rocket is 2125 dollars. Well, where is the ratio of the cost of “Cornet” to the cost of “Spike” as “1 to 2”, what does the “professor” talk about? This conclusion is sucked from his finger. From the first contract in 1998, and until August 2013, more than 1400 ATGMs Kornet-E and 40000 ATGM 9M133E http://haa.su/uGH/ were sold. A new major contract is being prepared with Egypt. Compare how much Spike-ER ATGM (which is an analogue of the Cornet in terms of weight and size characteristics, versatility of use and range) was sold during this time.
          2. The "Professor" does not understand at all what "technical vision" and the ACS are, otherwise he would not have written nonsense, such as "no automatic target tracking machine will help here." Still how it will help. When a target is detected in the heat and television channel, the ACS is capable of capturing targets for auto tracking at long distances than the Spike GOS is capable of. At the same time, passive camouflage devices do not work at all when pointing the Kornet missiles. But they are quite effective against the Spike thermal imaging seeker - in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYpwPx--exs (watch from about 6 min.) It is shown how it looks in a two-spectral “highly sensitive” thermal imager T-72 tank with "Cape", at a distance of only 25-50 m !!!
          3. It is strange that the “professor” is not aware that the “Cornet-EM” has already shot down air targets. Or does "religion" not believe in such a thing? The fact took place at “Russia Arms Expo 2013” ​​http://www.kbptula.ru/index.php/ru/novosti/novosti-kbp/177-russia-arms-expo-2013
          . This was widely discussed online, but the "professor" apparently overslept this event ...
          4. I have repeatedly cited the characteristics of the Kornet-EM and Spike-ER anti-tank systems, from which it is absolutely clear that the operational and combat performance characteristics of the Russian complex of the second generation surpass the Israeli of the third generation. The advantage of Spike-ER is exclusively in the availability of homing, but in modern conflicts this is far from always required. "Spike" for all the time of its existence did not hit a single BTT unit in a real battle !!! It is used exclusively against lightly armed insurgents and civilian development. And in this case, an expensive GOS is generally not needed for hell.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 22 February 2014 23: 09
            +3
            Quote: beard999
            Or does "religion" not believe in such a thing?
            - Respect. Convincingly and at the same time delicately, if I were a specialist in this, I would have toughened harder for the professor laughing
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 23 February 2014 21: 39
              -4
              Aksakal, and what are you a specialist in addition to semi-political statements?
          2. Tourist Breakfast
            Tourist Breakfast 23 February 2014 14: 19
            -2
            "Spike" for all the time of its existence did not hit a single BTT unit in a real battle !!!

            Therefore, the RPG-7 criterion is much steeper than "Spike", "Cornet" and "Javelin" combined. And "Molotov Cocktail" is generally out of competition.

            It is used exclusively against lightly armed insurgents and civilian development. And in this case, an expensive GOS is generally not needed for hell.

            Yeah, to hell with them with civilians. The whole quarter in the dust for one action movie.
            1. user1212
              user1212 23 February 2014 15: 31
              +5
              PTRK with tandem warhead sweeps the quarter? laughing
              1. Tourist Breakfast
                Tourist Breakfast 23 February 2014 16: 11
                0
                PTRK with tandem warhead sweeps the quarter?


                Without the use of precision weapons (including with GOS), for the sake of guaranteed destruction of one militant, you will have to go to unacceptable collateral damage and casualties among the civilian population. Is it more affordable?
                1. Professor
                  Professor 23 February 2014 16: 30
                  -1
                  Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
                  Without the use of precision weapons (including with GOS), for the sake of guaranteed destruction of one militant, you will have to go to unacceptable collateral damage and casualties among the civilian population. Is it more affordable?

                  Like this:

          3. dustycat
            dustycat 23 February 2014 21: 48
            0
            Quote: beard999
            4. I have repeatedly cited the characteristics of the Kornet-EM and Spike-ER anti-tank systems, from which it is absolutely clear that the operational and combat performance characteristics of the Russian complex of the second generation surpass the Israeli of the third generation.


            Not really.
            Not very superior. Unless at the cost of a shot.
            In addition, the laser beam has a very strongly unmasking sign - you can simply pull the bullet with the same cornet - it will be guided just as successfully along the emitter. Or just cover the OFS with the place from where it shines - in the night sight, the laser beam is clearly visible even on a cloudy day (on a clearer day the AGC capabilities are not enough).
          4. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 24 February 2014 03: 19
            0
            Quote: beard999
            "Spike" for all the time of its existence did not hit a single BTT unit in a real battle !!!

      2. SkiF_RnD
        SkiF_RnD 22 February 2014 15: 36
        +4
        About R&D, you, professor, did give a blunder. Cash for "raptor", ~ 146 million dollars, excluding R&D. The price is very high, whatever one may say. And with R&D - 350. RPG-7 by no means could have been worth its weight in gold (in terms of price, but not in terms of value). Well, how many design bureaus were involved? You understand that the cost of R&D affects the price of one product in inverse proportion to the number of products produced. How much do you think R&D cost? More than 9 units were produced. We assume? laughing
        1. Professor
          Professor 22 February 2014 16: 15
          0
          Quote: SkiF_RnD
          RPG-7 couldn’t be worth its weight in gold (by price, but not by value). Well, how many KB was involved there?

          Many, very many. I’ll find an article about its development, I’ll post it.

          Quote: SkiF_RnD
          You understand that the cost of R&D affects the price of one product inversely with the number of manufactured products. How much do you think R&D cost? Over 9 units issued. We assume?

          We will be. From the 9 million RPG-7s produced (I take my word that exactly so many were produced), boldly subtract those that were produced abroad, especially in China. From the rest, make a histogram of the amount produced by year and estimate when it paid off.
          1. SkiF_RnD
            SkiF_RnD 22 February 2014 18: 18
            +4
            Can you not make up? repeat

            When i suggested
            We assume?
            Of course, I wanted to cheat and offer to count you laughing Are you kidding me? What (what?) Grams? Several million grenade launchers. Millions. What kind of R&D were there, what are you talking about payback belay Really like the Raptor? Well, this is not at all serious. I wanted to fix it in a simple way, or something. Without serious debate, so to speak. All the same, a person who is quite knowledgeable in the topic (I mean you, not myself smile ) Okay, now I will answer.
          2. SkiF_RnD
            SkiF_RnD 22 February 2014 18: 22
            +2
            The development of the RPG-7 anti-tank grenade launcher began in 1958 at the State Scientific and Production Enterprise "Bazalt" (then GSKB-47). A significant role in the creation of the grenade launcher was played by the head and chief designer of OKB-575 A. Nikiforenko, chief engineer I. Potapov, head of the 5th department A. Sorokin, as well as leading designers E. Brovkin, V. Degtyarev, A. Alymov, M. Gorbunov, A. Ivashutich, A. Sevastyanova and others. The PG-7V round to the RPG-7 grenade launcher was designed by engineer V. Firulin. Factory tests of the RPG-7 were carried out at the test site from February 25 to June 11, 1960 and showed that the grenade launchers met the requirements of the technical specifications. In a series of grenade launchers, intended for field trials, improvements were made to the pads to protect the shooter from burns, an open sight and a strap for attaching an optical sight, as well as bags for carrying grenades and spare parts. In 1961, a new grenade launcher, designated RPG-7, was adopted by the Soviet army

            So far, I can not find anything other than this. (on the Internet, of course. The sources are different, as usually the same everywhere).
            Well, somehow the story of creation with your words, well, does not fit at all. RPG-7 is not a very revolutionary thing, RPG-2 was in the army. Replaced by a more powerful one. I have not delved into the design differences yet, but, it seems to me, the development was by no means expensive, well, what is such a large-scale project for a year and a half? Please share sources about KB. I will be grateful. hi
            1. Drummer
              Drummer 22 February 2014 19: 53
              +1
              Compare! RPG-2 - an analogue of German panzerfausts from the time of the Second World War, RPG-7 - a completely new development, with an original active-reactive shot.
            2. dustycat
              dustycat 23 February 2014 21: 58
              +3
              Quote: SkiF_RnD
              So far, I can not find anything other than this. (on the Internet, of course. The sources are different, as usually the same everywhere).


              Better find a methodology for the formation of cost in socialist production.
              R&D in the cost were taken into account.
              And in the cost of metal parts.
              And in the cost of parts produced by the USSR Ministry of Chemical Industry (rubber, plastic, explosive and combustible parts).
              And in the cost of precision mechanics.
              Moreover, with a profitability of 2% (net profit of up to 50% went to the circle).
              For export deliveries, profitability was also taken at 4%.
            3. Jack7691
              Jack7691 24 February 2014 17: 44
              +2
              Yes, the point is simply that the Russian-speaking "children of Zion" who pulled off the sweet life are now proving with might and main that they were right when they fled, and how much cooler and more advanced they are.
          3. SkiF_RnD
            SkiF_RnD 22 February 2014 18: 31
            +3
            A legitimate question arose, maybe there aren’t those design bureaus? Not an option that you confuse something? No offense, of course. Trumpet. Aim. There is even a night. fellow Grenade. New. RPG-7 - dynamo-reactive, that is, recoilless grenade launcher. I do not find anything surprising about him. Well, there is nothing to develop there. What is such a big development cost? After "Javelin," has everyone gone crazy? Yes, it's easier than RPG-7, only Berdanka, it seems to me what . Found the names of several designers. It’s good that not one person developed it, this your sinful RPG ...
            1. Professor
              Professor 22 February 2014 18: 36
              +3
              Quote: SkiF_RnD
              A legitimate question arose, maybe there aren’t those design bureaus?

              Find this article, lay out. hi
              1. SkiF_RnD
                SkiF_RnD 22 February 2014 18: 45
                +1
                Agreed
            2. Voronbit
              Voronbit 24 February 2014 22: 01
              0
              not ham queens ...
      3. dustycat
        dustycat 23 February 2014 21: 38
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        In the USSR, usually the cost of the product did not include the costs of the NKR,


        And here you have Professor blunder.
        I advise you to get acquainted in more detail with the socialist method of pricing.
        It is because of this method that a metal enameled colander cost 75 kopecks (10 per shift, 32 operations), and a polyethylene colander 3 rubles 20 kopecks (100 per shift, two operations) made with one movement of the extruder.

        So R&D was very much included in the cost of Soviet products. The only thing - without market profits - from 15% to as much as you like if only the customers agreed to buy at the resulting price.
        1. Professor
          Professor 23 February 2014 23: 09
          +1
          Quote: dustycat
          So R&D was very much included in the cost of Soviet products.

          There were 3 courses in economics at the university, including "Industry Economics". R&D nifiga was not included in the cost of the product.
          Example 1: Chernomorsudoprojekt designs tankers, the Ministry finances this business. ChSZ is building these tankers and the Chernomorsudoproject doesn’t pay for it. Further ChSZ implements these tankers considering the cost of production.
          Example 2: ChSY built a bunch of trawlers, when delegations from Spain said that the price of the trawler was $ 8 million, they precipitated exclaiming "ONLY?"
          1. SkiF_RnD
            SkiF_RnD 24 February 2014 18: 42
            +1
            Professor, if I understand you correctly, did the USSR trade at a loss? (I’m not talking about supplies to the Allies, but about trade as a source of currency, which has always been strained due to a different economic model than others) Seriously, this sounds like a duck, what reason can there be to believe in such a thing? I decided that you solely state orders mean (that nishtyaki buy for their army, and indicate the price without R&D. Formally, what you are attached to smile ) If you think that the USSR was selling its products like that, then let the proofs be sure. Judge for yourself, it sounds like complete nonsense request
            1. Professor
              Professor 24 February 2014 22: 59
              0
              Quote: SkiF_RnD
              Professor, if I understand you correctly, did the USSR trade at a loss?

              If you were trading for profit, you look, and the USSR economy would not have covered him with a copper basin.
              1. SkiF_RnD
                SkiF_RnD 25 February 2014 16: 19
                0
                What is there covered with a copper basin is not for you to judge, do not consider it as harshness. But even if not to talk about Gorby, EBN and other cheerful personalities, according to the official version, defense spending has increased dramatically in a fairly short time, along with the rapid rise in energy prices. After that, a collapse in hydrocarbon prices was organized and the balance sharply went into negative territory. This picture does not allow one to argue that trade as such was ineffective. In the end, about the "copper basin" - this is exclusively about the 80s. And before? There was no pelvis smile . How to deal with this? And oil prices have not risen yet. And the economy not only lived, but flourished quite well (of course, mainly on military rails, unfortunately) So, it is not accepted No.
                Give your design bureau, I come here every day in anticipation of a curious information.
                Put a plus, but do not agree. hi
  14. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 22 February 2014 14: 09
    +3
    Yours is not true, "cornet" is a good complex, and to talk about the advantages, only waste time, the specialists at first did not believe in what they did.
  15. Nayhas
    Nayhas 22 February 2014 15: 25
    +3
    I ask everyone to reconcile because the dispute is clearly not constructive. Comparing this or that ATGM it is necessary to understand against whom and against what purposes it is used. For example, the ATGM Competition (with ATGM on a leash) is not badly used in Syria, because the Syrian tankers do not have the means to detect the launch of ATGMs and therefore can’t put out obstacles in time and suppress the fire, thereby disrupting the operator’s guidance. Against modern tanks, it’s already more dangerous to use anti-tank systems and the result may be negative, smoke, blinding of optics, firing at the position of an anti-tank operator will most likely bring down the guidance and the anti-tank missiles will fly away to nowhere. There is no doubt better than Javelin or Spike. Javelin and Kornet can equally successfully destroy a partisanwagon (a pickup with a machine gun installation), but the price in money terms will be different. If your adversary is frankly weak, then there is little point in wasting money on Javelin, but if your adversary, for example, has China who has laser systems in tanks (burn an eyeball for an ATGM operator), then it is better to choose Javelin ...
    Peace to you!
  16. schizophrenic
    schizophrenic 22 February 2014 16: 02
    +1
    YES in vain they say, each armor needs its own sword.
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 23 February 2014 00: 39
      -1
      it’s more correct, for every screw there is a thread, Jews will find a bunch of nasty things themselves in the project, they do this and that, but the professor is lying in prices, jov and spike just like the tou-gabrielle of the road, our specialists are for get a little more than 100 grit a cornet, for a spike and others I don’t know, but for 100 grit it’s unlikely
  17. Dimsan
    Dimsan 22 February 2014 17: 39
    0
    Professor when you were still very young and played automatics and just started to master the counter-strike, there was a war between Israel and Lebanese hezbollah !!!! and there our cornet showed itself in all its glory! And the worst thing is that the Israeli Merkavs were beaten equipped with the “Trophy” active defense complex that did not save them!
    PRICES:
    125000 $ (80000 FOR YOUR ARMY) PRICE OF THE LAUNCHER JAVELIN, ROCKET - 80000 (40000), APPROXIMATELY.
    SPIKE (MEDIUM OPTION) UP TO $ 250000 FOR RUNNING INSTALLATION AND ROCKET, PRICES FOR ONE ROCKET ARE NOT DISCLOSED
    CORNET - $ 30000 FOR ROCKET AND RUNNING INSTALLATION
    1. Professor
      Professor 22 February 2014 17: 49
      +2
      Quote: Dimsan
      And the worst thing is that the Israeli Merkavs were beaten equipped with the “Trophy” active defense complex that did not save them!

      They were equipped not only with Trophy, but also with blasters and a gravity arm. wassat
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      2. dustycat
        dustycat 23 February 2014 22: 02
        0
        Quote: Professor
        They were equipped not only with Trophy, but also with blasters and a gravity arm.


        Translucator, Professor, transclusor ...;)
    2. tlauicol
      tlauicol 22 February 2014 18: 41
      +2
      The professor played not only in automation, but also in grenade launchers with ptorsikami. And not in the counter strike and not in childhood
    3. badger1974
      badger1974 22 February 2014 23: 00
      0
      nhjab wasn’t activated, but even without it, the pair launch from the seven le grenades? break the trophy and our arena, the Jews know about it, because nhjab is an arena
  18. Alex_T
    Alex_T 22 February 2014 18: 18
    +4
    The author of the article is a teapot. "... the control of the Kornet is similar to high-precision aircraft weapons. The launcher is equipped with a laser emitter that illuminates the target of the rocket. The reflected beam is perceived by a laser photodetector installed on the rocket, and the guidance system, using four thin folding wings , corrects flight, focusing on the readings of the photodetector. "
    In fact, the rocket does not fly on the signal reflected from the target, when the target is illuminated during the entire flight. The Kornet rocket flies in the "center" of the aiming beam, the head is blind, the beam sensors are in the tail and look at the operator, while the beam and the rocket are directed above the target for most of the flight, the beam "lowers" the rocket when approaching the target. Such a system is more resistant to glare and smoke masking, the operator unmasks himself less by radiation. Target illumination occurs only before the shot, to measure the distance, and immediately before hitting the target, when the beam lowers the missile onto the target. Due to this, the protective automatics of the target (tank or BMP) have less time to take countermeasures.
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  19. mizantrop22
    mizantrop22 22 February 2014 21: 13
    +1
    Quote: Dimsan
    Professor when you were still very young and played automatics and just started to master the counter-strike, there was a war between Israel and Lebanese hezbollah !!!! and there our cornet showed itself in all its glory! And the worst thing is that the Israeli Merkavs were beaten equipped with the “Trophy” active defense complex that did not save them!
    PRICES:
    125000 $ (80000 FOR YOUR ARMY) PRICE OF THE LAUNCHER JAVELIN, ROCKET - 80000 (40000), APPROXIMATELY.
    SPIKE (MEDIUM OPTION) UP TO $ 250000 FOR RUNNING INSTALLATION AND ROCKET, PRICES FOR ONE ROCKET ARE NOT DISCLOSED
    CORNET - $ 30000 FOR ROCKET AND RUNNING INSTALLATION


    Where are the cutest digits! All the time you have to consider the costs at your enterprise, so until I see the costing of all complexes, moreover, calculated according to one principle, because in this matter (I know by myself) you can calculate everything. And so this is nothing and no confirmed figures repeat
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 22 February 2014 23: 15
      0
      yeah, if the jov would be so beautiful it would be a complete reincarnation of an ATGM with IR guidance, if that were the case, the jovs would be on the Apache and Cobra pylons, but this did not happen, since it is expensive compared to the Hell
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 23 February 2014 22: 12
        0
        Well, actually the option of shooting Cornet with a thermal imaging seeker in the USSR was proposed.
        Not the developer of the complex, though.
        But because of the peculiarities of cost formation under socialism, it was considered very expensive.
        And the USSR Ministry of Electron Industry was not able (rather stupidly did not want to mess with them) to arrange the production of uncooled PIRs even for fire alarms.
  20. mizantrop22
    mizantrop22 22 February 2014 21: 15
    0
    and Trophy seems to have been put on the Merkavas after the war in Lebanon. No?
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 22 February 2014 23: 18
      -1
      they don’t measure nhjab, because the measurements are bunkers, and to distinguish whether there is nhjab or not by the block on the tower, read the arena, the thrush and the trophy are one and the same
  21. Master_Lviv
    Master_Lviv 22 February 2014 23: 15
    -1
    Without the means of overcoming the KAZ, all these rackets - Tamuz, Kornets, and all sorts of Israeli wunderwafers - are simply expensive targets with automatic delivery to the striking elements of active protection of tanks.
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 23 February 2014 06: 42
      0
      how many racquets in the world? But how many tanks are in service with KAZ? such parts on the fingers of one hand can be counted
      1. Professor
        Professor 23 February 2014 08: 48
        0
        Quote: Tlauicol
        how many racquets in the world?

        A total of 21000 Spikes were ordered, are in service with 18 countries, 3000 were issued during exercises and military operations. (Data from 2011.)

        Quote: Tlauicol
        But how many tanks are in service with KAZ?

        So far, only one-Merkava.

        PS
        ATGMs TOU, for example, were released over 600'000.
        1. tlauicol
          tlauicol 23 February 2014 09: 01
          +3
          that's it, thanks! and it's just Spikes. zai ..or already threaten with non-existent armaments in our possession of KAZs, aviation Onyxes, submarines and other chimeras

          Happy holiday to all!
  22. badger1974
    badger1974 23 February 2014 00: 48
    0
    they don’t measure nhjab, because the measurements are bunkers, and to distinguish whether there is nhjab or not by the block on the tower, read the arena, the thrush and the trophy are one and the same
    who knows the truth minusanul me, deeds, smoke without fire does not vomit., so him son of a bitch,
  23. Aristocrat
    Aristocrat 10 March 2014 14: 54
    0
    Javelin, in my mind, seemed to be the perfect option for fighting tanks. The high price is incomparable with the cost of an enemy tank, and even more, it is incomparable with the damage that this very tank could inflict. BUT! Having studied in detail the history of creation and the device "javelin" came to the conclusion that, to put it mildly, "everything is ambiguous." This is a very difficult device to operate as well. The matrix is ​​protected from overheating by a special cooling device with a compressed gas cylinder. If the operator initiated the Javelin, then after a few seconds (I don't remember how long, something like 20-30) he is forced to change the empty gas cylinder. So the use of this complex is fraught with considerable problems. especially in the hot and dusty climates of the Middle East. I dug shallow. So that people who do not have experience with this weapon do not think that all weapons work the same way as in games on a PC!
    I myself have no experience of shooting with an ATGM (the scout was not by rank and not by the charter), all the more I do not undertake to give an assessment of the last resort. But I will definitely say that many factors are involved in the definition of "oneself", the vast majority of which we do not even know. One can only judge by the price, performance characteristics, etc.
    Personally, I am for the fact that the Russian army would have weapons of all types. Only a combination of anti-tank weapons gives the maximum effect in the fight against tanks. A narrow-minded approach in this matter is criminal. From statements "RPG-7 will knock everyone out" to "javelins slammed!" In many situations, the RPG simply will not reach the enemy's MBT, and the Javelins will not cope with the temperature of their own matrices (it's just stupid a Humvee with cooling gas cylinders will be knocked out by the ancient RKG-3! :))).
    Different means are needed, different means are important!