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Military pressure

Military unions demonstrate cohesion of their ranks


The All-Russian Professional Union of Military Personnel (OPSV) is one of the few public organizations in Russia that has significant authority both among the military personnel of the army and fleet, and in Russian society as a whole. OPSV through a network of more than 70 regional organizations located in almost all regions of Russia where military garrisons are located, defends the interests of not only members of the organization, but also all those for whom military service has become a profession, as well as military pensioners and members of their families.

On some of the plans of the organization for the further social protection of people in uniform and veterans, the strengthening of civil society institutions in the Armed Forces to military observer Vladimir MUKHIN tells the chairman of the Central Committee of the WWTP Oleg Shvedkov.


- Oleg Konstantinovich, recently the OPSV and the Main Military Prosecutor’s Office (GVP) signed the Agreement on Cooperation and Interaction. What caused the signing of this document?

- This practice of our interaction with GWP has existed for a relatively long time. With the department, which is headed by Chief Military Prosecutor Sergey Nikolaevich Fridinsky, we have close contacts in matters of the legal protection of military personnel and military retirees since 2009. Then we signed the first agreement with the Chief Military Prosecutor's Office, and it played a significant role in strengthening the legal protection of servicemen and lagging their social and civil rights. For example, only our executive committee of the Central Committee of the OPSV over the past four years, more than 200 once applied to the MAG with the request to apply prosecutorial measures to various violations of the rights of military personnel by the authorities, command, etc. An order of magnitude more such appeals were sent by our regional organizations. And, of course, after such interaction with representatives of the military prosecutor’s office, we had, as a rule, an effective result.

Here I want to note that our appeals to the prosecution authorities are the last, as they say, extreme measure, the provision of social and legal assistance to military personnel, military retirees and their families. As a rule, if we receive signals, requests for help from military personnel, residents of garrisons, we first try to resolve problems at the command level and the garrison authorities and local governments. If there is no positive reaction, then we appeal to the address of the higher command. And only after some time, when we see that our signals do not bring results here, we appeal to the prosecution authorities in order to try to restore justice and establish due order by the force of law.

Interaction with GWP is not only joint protection of people in uniform, informing this structure about those or other violations of laws in the army and navy. But this includes joint work in the provision of legal assistance to military personnel, the exchange of experience, the joint development of proposals for improving certain social and legal aspects of military legislation, etc.

- What are the problems citizens apply to OPSV?

- Mostly they apply and people have previously contacted us on housing problems. This is about 80% of all hits. A large number of complaints were received about the arbitrariness of individual commanders and superiors. And to bring order here, of course, it is important to interact with the military prosecutor’s office.

- Now, after the adoption of the law on the military police (OPSV), these structures will be engaged in maintaining order in the garrisons and military units. Are there any plans to sign any documents on cooperation and collaboration with the EaP bodies?

- The General Directorate of the Military Police is known to be included in the structure of the Ministry of Defense, and its head is personally subordinate to the Minister of Defense. Therefore, now we would like to first of all update our cooperation agreement with the military department. We sent the corresponding draft document to the head of the Ministry of Defense Sergey Shoigu. And sent a relatively long time. But no answers, no reaction to him yet.

- And how effective is the cooperation between the OSPF and the Ministry of Defense? If you recall, for several years you, Oleg Konstantinovich, were a member of the Public Council under the Ministry of Defense. Then for some reason they took you out of it. How do you really interact with the military department, military authorities in the regions of Russia?

- I'll tell you straight. Of course, we strive for maximum efficiency in our relations with the command of the Armed Forces and the leadership of the Ministry of Defense. And they are simply forced to contact us, because the questions we pose to them concern specific problems, people, etc. But we are aiming for more. We want to work with army structures on a system basis. And that is why we are seeking re-signing of an agreement on cooperation and cooperation with the new leadership of the Ministry of Defense. The cooperation agreement, signed when Sergey Ivanov, the Minister of Defense, was outdated.

It would seem that military leaders are ready to cooperate with representatives of civil society, which they have repeatedly stated at all levels. After the arrival of Sergei Shoigu to the Ministry of Defense, a new composition of the Public Council was formed. But a great return from the work of this body, in the opinion of a large military community, is not yet observed. Unfortunately, the system of civilian control over the Armed Forces still does not work in full force. Many public organizations dealing with the problems of military personnel were left behind in productive cooperation with their native ministry. That is why I, at the last meeting of the Coordination Council under the chairman of the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly for the Social Protection of Military Personnel, Law Enforcement Officers and Their Family Members, suggested that all public structures working in the “military environment” create a single coordinating body. In any case, we, as a “military trade union”, intend to work with the Ministry of Defense constantly, as they say, in working mode - there is a specific problem, we solve it together.

There are definite results for OPSV here, especially at the regional level ... We have agreements with the command of more than 40 of major associations and unions, republican and regional military enlistment offices. OPSV helps them in organizing military patronage work and working with veterans. And they, in turn, contribute to the implementation of the requirements of OPSV in protecting the rights of servicemen. But in some places the commanders simply turn away from us. Because we are uncomfortable. We, unlike many organizations, do not just raise real problematic issues and strive to solve them, but by the whole arsenal of our measures we force them to solve. Not everyone likes it, and if you remember history with my participation in the Public Council of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, I now state that as soon as tough criticism of the leadership of the military department was heard from my mouth, I was quietly removed from this body. We are not always comfortable ...

- Why uncomfortable?

- We are trying to defend the specific rights of servicemen. Unfortunately, they have many responsibilities, but few rights. For example, for several years already, the OPSV has been proposing the Russian Ministry of Defense to change the system for concluding a contract with a military man with the military department. The contract should contain all benefits, compensations and other preferences, as well as the responsibility of the department for their implementation. This will make it impossible for the ministry and the state to modify at its discretion benefits to servicemen during the term of the signed contract. This practice exists in all civilized countries. For example, the list of benefits of military personnel in a contract with the Pentagon for military service takes about 40 sheets. In the Russian army, the contents of the contract with the Defender of the Fatherland fit into one and a half leaves. For some reason, the Defense Ministry does not even consider this proposal.

Commanders and commanders react painfully when our trade union activists raise the acute problems of, say, feeding the servicemen, providing them with warmth, when we present concrete facts of non-statutory relations in the army and the navy.

- And what needs to be done to increase the effectiveness of the CRPD?

- In my opinion, it is necessary to pass the law on military trade unions as soon as possible, or at least amendments to existing legislation explaining the creation and activities of trade unions of military personnel in military units. In principle, no one forbids us to work, to protect the rights of servicemen. The basis for such activities for us is Article 30 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which states: “Everyone has the right to associate, including the right to form trade unions to protect their interests. Freedom of activity of public associations is guaranteed. ” An important tool in our activities is the Federal Law “On Trade Unions, Their Rights and Guarantees of Activities”, in Article 4 of which the existence of military unions of military personnel is enshrined. But to date, there is no complete specifics, normative base for the functioning of OPSV in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

After amending the end of 1990-ies in Article 9 of the Federal Law “On the Status of Military Personnel”, it defines the right of military personnel to join a trade union. Based on this, in 1997, we prepared a draft law “On trade unions of servicemen”. At the same time, a similar bill was prepared in the Professional Union of Russian Military Forces, headed by the ex-Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Igor Rodionov. After numerous amendments, the bill reached the second reading, but was never passed. The only adversary is the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. All the rest of the security forces supported. This is what exists today as regards the legal incompleteness of the legitimization of the activities of OPSV within military units.

- President Vladimir Putin, speaking to the Federal Assembly, said that trade unions and organizations protecting the interests of professional and social groups should be actively represented in the work of the Public Chamber. Will the FPRA nominate their representatives to the new chamber, which should begin work in July 2014?

- This is, of course, a good platform for defending the civil rights of servicemen and their families. And we will try to at least our regional organizations in the new membership of the Public Chamber be represented. In my opinion, there are real opportunities, for example, that Yury Tarlavin, the head of our Primorye organization OSPV, be nominated to the PF. There, in the Far East, as a military trade union leader, he enjoys deserved prestige not only in military units, units and garrisons, but also among representatives of civil society in the Primorsky Territory. A similar authority has the head of the Tula organization OPSV Nikolay Melnikov. As for me, the Central Committee of the OPSU has not yet decided to nominate my candidacy or any other representative of our trade union to the new membership of the OP on the new system of its formation. Here, as you know, you can get through the Internet voting on the website of the Russian Public Initiative, during which 43 members should be elected to the Public Chamber. But many in Russian society do not trust the results of such online voting. Since it is still impossible to control the objectivity of the vote, completely eliminate cheating and conduct an honest, transparent vote count.
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  1. +15
    23 February 2014 13: 59
    YOU could have imagined this 30 years ago. The rights of the military should be respected not by trade unions, but by the state itself
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    2. +4
      23 February 2014 14: 40
      Either the union or the army. The concepts are not compatible. In Europe, yes. There is a NATO "trade union".
    3. +2
      23 February 2014 16: 06
      Who pays for the activities of this union?
      1. lapo32
        +1
        23 February 2014 16: 10
        Iya probably
      2. TekhnarMAF
        +2
        23 February 2014 17: 32
        He began to read the article and threw it. Comrade military, of those times, we thought about it? What unions !!? Yes, we served the Motherland!
    4. +3
      23 February 2014 16: 12
      Then there were talkers too, but not in such numbers. I wonder what else the Army will "borrow" from potential "allies"?
      1. 0
        23 February 2014 22: 51
        Yes, it makes no difference to me whether there is such an organization or not. The main thing is that they correspond to the essence of the army, to be the defenders of the Fatherland. Today, for the sake of experiment, I congratulated the young people on the porch, as a Jew looked after his emotions. Everyone was happy. We have a complete set, Tatars, Jews, and there are still. And I calmed down.
  2. +5
    23 February 2014 14: 06
    I tried to submit a strike in the army, the PPC in one word.
    1. 0
      23 February 2014 14: 49
      Duc, what's the strike? They have long been all seized and paid. laughing
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/309/fvzt861.jpg
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    3. s1н7т
      +1
      23 February 2014 20: 10
      Quote: BlackMokona
      Tried to submit a strike in the army

      And I saw. The neighbors went on strike. A regiment withdrawn from Mongolia and abandoned in the middle of the steppe with families. It worked, however! And the 80s, I also could not imagine this.
  3. +3
    23 February 2014 14: 25
    The contract should spell out all the benefits, compensation and other preferences, as well as the responsibility of the department for their implementation. This will deprive the ministry and the state of the opportunity to modify, at their discretion, the benefits to the military personnel during the validity period of the signed contract.

    And what's wrong with that? There are many problems in the existing system of contractual relations. Although the contract is concluded by two parties and both take on certain obligations, for the failure to fulfill which equally a certain responsibility of both parties should occur. But in reality it always turns out that the military is always guilty, and not the department. And the truth you will not find anywhere, neither in higher instances nor in courts. And even more so, the trade union will not help much here, except with good advice and support.
    1. +1
      23 February 2014 14: 59
      The army is not a PLACE where YOU SHOULD BE COOKED and OVERWEAR .... and a tie parallel to the ground.
      Social issues need to be decided not who does not argue ... BUT I bring it to MORASM I think it’s definitely not worth it!
      1. +5
        23 February 2014 15: 44
        Quote: Nitarius
        The army is not a PLACE where YOU SHOULD BE ATTENDED and OVERLOADED .... and the tie is parallel to the ground. Social issues need to be solved not who does not argue ... BUT I think it’s definitely not worth it!

        I did not want to spoil my mood on such a day! But this statement is peculiar to a person who, if he served, tasted all the benefits of the service, that is, he did not experience the difficulties of social issues!
        And M-O-RANGE from "their ravens" did not receive for a trench life!
      2. 0
        23 February 2014 15: 44
        Quote: Nitarius
        The army is not a PLACE where YOU SHOULD BE ATTENDED and OVERLOADED .... and the tie is parallel to the ground. Social issues need to be solved not who does not argue ... BUT I think it’s definitely not worth it!

        I did not want to spoil my mood on such a day! But this statement is peculiar to a person who, if he served, tasted all the benefits of the service, that is, he did not experience the difficulties of social issues!
        And M-O-RANGE from "their ravens" did not receive for a trench life!
  4. +1
    23 February 2014 15: 01
    And with whom can Europe fight? With their former colonies and their own puppet governments in them? The main thing remains for cutting military budgets, but unfortunately only a pipe dream!
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/869/fitg69.jpg
    1. +1
      23 February 2014 23: 18
      Yeah. Tolley Polish, Tolley Jewish. Well, generally a bastard, we will always be.
  5. +2
    23 February 2014 15: 33
    The union in the army is nonsense. Can the institute of commissioners be revived? I will explain now:
    Option 1: The union is independent of the commander. Each action of the commander is coordinated with the union. In civilian life there is a buzz, but the commander eventually gets used to acting with caution and becomes non-initiative. And here comes the hour of the Arctic fox ...
    Option 2: (more harmless) The union is dancing to the tune of command, or is boiled in its own juice. Well, this, as we have on the railway, is a legal way of taking money from personnel for someone else’s benefit
    It is necessary to invent something else.
  6. iakimov.yu
    +2
    23 February 2014 15: 51
    In the conversation, I saw the same self-praise as in civil unions and the eternal groaning that they are not perceived. All the laws of the state, especially the Minister of Defense and the Supreme Commander, must be obeyed by the army. And they are obliged to answer to the people or at least to the State Duma RF.A while there is one chatter. Why didn’t the people speak out for non-compliance with the laws and his decrees on the indexation of monetary allowance, and this is the most important question. The rest is demagogy.
  7. +2
    23 February 2014 15: 57
    Interestingly, Serdyukov, Vasiliev, etc. also union members?
    1. s1н7т
      +1
      23 February 2014 20: 13
      Quote: treskoed
      Interestingly, Serdyukov, Vasiliev, etc. also union members?

      No, they are members of a cooperative. Lakes seem laughing
    2. s1н7т
      0
      23 February 2014 20: 13
      Quote: treskoed
      Interestingly, Serdyukov, Vasiliev, etc. also union members?

      No, they are members of a cooperative. Lakes seem laughing
      1. +1
        23 February 2014 22: 22
        Yes, "lake".
      2. +1
        23 February 2014 22: 45
        Apparently, membership fees are paid on time ....
      3. +1
        24 February 2014 09: 31
        Quote: c1n7
        No, they are members of a cooperative. Lakes seem

        "co-opted" by the chairman ... laughing
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    4. 0
      23 February 2014 23: 40
      So he was a civilian minister. laughing
  8. 0
    23 February 2014 16: 06
    Why are unions in blue? What does it mean? wink
    1. RND
      0
      23 February 2014 18: 32
      Quote: July
      Why are unions in blue? What does it mean? wink


      How so? belay Purely army color !!!

      "... the blue color symbolizes purity, intelligence, constancy and tenderness. If there is too much blue, it can cause laziness and apathy.

      The blue color for the Chinese is one of the funeral flowers; in Brazil, a symbol of sadness.

      Blue is considered the color of creativity.

      Physiology: helps with insomnia, helps to fall asleep, as it has a relaxing effect. Has astringent and anti-inflammatory effect.
      Psychology: helps with negative mental conditions: shyness, fear of talking, bad relationships.
      With the help of blue, you can detach from the outside world and, being left alone with your thoughts, contemplate and calmly reflect. When engaging in meditative practices, it is useful to light a blue candle or a blue lamp ... "(from coloristics)
  9. vic.danilow2012
    0
    23 February 2014 16: 48
    Well, th guys, we’ll defend the brothers forward. what do you think .
  10. vic.danilow2012
    0
    23 February 2014 16: 51
    I AM FORWARD WITH YOU.
  11. vic.danilow2012
    0
    23 February 2014 16: 53
    THE MEN WILL PROTECT THE BROTHERS WE WILL FIGHT.
  12. vic.danilow2012
    0
    23 February 2014 16: 54
    Airborne Forces and Special Forces Ahead
  13. vic.danilow2012
    0
    23 February 2014 17: 01
    And THEN AND US COMING SOON IN TOPCH. and DO NOT LOOK IRONY AND WITH EASY STEAM.
  14. vic.danilow2012
    0
    23 February 2014 17: 05
    CRIMEA AND EASTERN REGIONS UNTIL LATE GO TO RUSSIA
    .
  15. +4
    23 February 2014 17: 24
    Mdya How many deleted what As I understand it, unions are not in favor here? Not? Well, fine. Zabolatyvayut one paper reporting.
    1. 0
      23 February 2014 19: 57
      Yes, and boring as that, however, as always with the trade unions. In general, a trade union in the army ... ???
      1. 0
        23 February 2014 23: 36
        So will cancel and one-man management. The army will cease to be an army. Sometimes it happens that the commander is dur.ak, damn it, I don’t even want to think about it (death). But for someone to influence his decisions, no longer the army.
        1. s1н7т
          0
          24 February 2014 16: 52
          Quote: Yuri Ya.
          So will cancel and one-man management. The army will cease to be an army.

          As soon as the commander ceased to be an inquiry body in its part, the one-man management ended.
  16. +1
    23 February 2014 20: 04
    Md s. If the union answers the question of why pensions are less, the older the pensioner, all other things being equal, then if I don’t answer, I ask you to announce the sources of financing of his activities. Although, I would like to hear about sources of financing in any situation. Then something was remembered about who was dancing the girl ...
  17. +1
    23 February 2014 20: 06
    Quote: RND
    Blue is considered the color of creativity.

    "creative thinking is someone else's. alien. thinking" Ozhegov's dictionary 1959 edition. read for yourself!
  18. 0
    23 February 2014 20: 33
    I did not even know, it turns out I have a union, although I have been serving since 1996.
  19. s1н7т
    +2
    23 February 2014 20: 37
    When he himself served, such nonsense did not occur - the union. But in the 90s he began to think differently. The people flew out of the army without anything - without an apartment, without a profession and without work, respectively. Many had legal claims against the Moscow Region, which still had to be somehow resolved. Then they began to create a union. The Strategic Rocket Forces were the first to respond, by the way! laughing At first, the command did not object anywhere - well, like, democracy. But when they realized that the trade union was creating "smut" for them, they began to squeeze out on the sly. And so it began everywhere. The state was not interested in the interests of its officers. Then I left. And then the FRG even began to help a little - one might think they were more worried about us! laughing The people, I know, began to travel abroad - such as the experience to adopt. I don’t know how it ended, but somehow it turns out wildly, agree! Then we opened a military club - with the money of the retiring military, we helped with work, legally, and just mentally. Then they crushed it. I believe that only in a country where no one needs the army can there be a military union. I just served in the Union, I thought neither of the apartment, nor of the money, nor where to go on vacation — everything was decided by the Homeland and the commanders. If when the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation rise to the level of the Armed Forces of the USSR, then these unions will die. Well, of course, if their NATO will not feed laughing And so it’s fun to imagine - the signing of a collective agreement for the new school year laughing fool
    1. 0
      23 February 2014 23: 45
      Yes, spruce fallen.
      Quote: c1n7
      I just served in the Union

      That's all, there’s nothing to talk about.
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      2. s1н7т
        0
        24 February 2014 16: 49
        Quote: Yuri Ya.
        There’s nothing to talk about

        What is wrong, dear?