Azerbaijan replenishes the powder keg

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Azerbaijan replenishes the powder keg

Azerbaijani leadership presents its army as the strongest in the region


According to preliminary data from the World Trade Analysis Center weapons (TSAMTO), last year Azerbaijan acquired weapons worth 1 billion 257 million and in terms of these purchases it took 15-th place in the world. TSAMTO also states that over the past four years, Baku has sent 3 billion 375 million to purchase military units. These figures more or less correspond to official figures, which are regularly published in the Caspian republic itself. Moreover, the demonstration of these indicators is always accompanied by militant rhetoric against Armenia. Baku not only uses every excuse to similarly once again “scare” Yerevan with the “imminent immediate release of Nagorno-Karabakh occupied by the Armenian side”, but also reinforces these intentions with active military maneuvers. In Armenia, in turn, "adequately respond to the aggressive preparations of Azerbaijan."

How realistic is the possibility of a new war in the Caucasus? What forces can the army of the Caspian state "fulfill the will of their people and liberate the occupied lands"? And what are the chances of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) and Armenia once to defend "the blood gained gains"?

BAKU AND YEREVAN COMPARE FORCES

The performance of President Ilham Aliyev at the celebrations on the occasion of the 95 anniversary of the creation of national armed forces, which was widely celebrated on June 26 throughout the country, and military parades took place in Baku and some large cities, is especially indicative in terms of verbal militancy. In this speech, all the previously voiced theses of Azerbaijani politics are accumulated, as it were, in different places.

First, Baku boasts an increasing military budget from year to year. According to official data, if in 2003, these allocations amounted to 163 million dollars, last year this figure was 3,6 billion dollars, and in 2013, it reached 3,7 billion dollars. “This in itself demonstrates that building an army is a priority issue, the largest budget costs are directed to the army, and this is natural. And in subsequent years, military spending will represent the main place in our common budget, ”said Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev. At the same time, he is ironic about “Armenia in need, the entire budget of which is about 2 billion dollars.”

“The means used by us only for military needs are twice as high as all the expenses of Armenia! Azerbaijan is increasing every day, and Armenia is becoming weaker. Our economic power has grown on an incomparable scale. We are ahead of the enemy several times in any direction, and in some directions - more than ten times. And this difference will grow. Because we have a clear future, prospects, development path, ”noted Ilham Aliyev.

Although there is an increase in military spending, the tendency for their annual increase is not always observed. For example, in 2010, 4,413 billion was allocated to defense, and in “2011,” only “3,474 billion was allocated.

Secondly, the priority in spending these funds is an increase in military production and the purchase of the latest military equipment abroad. "And so it will be until the final settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict," the Azerbaijani leader said, accepting the parade of troops in Baku.

Aliyev is far from the first year to position his army as the strongest in the region. “Today it has great potential, which causes concern for Armenia,” he repeated at a government meeting. According to him, Azerbaijan takes into account that technology and knowledge begin to play a leading role in wars of the XNUMXst century. Therefore, in recent years, the state has acquired for the troops about a hundred combat and transport helicopters, dozens of combat aircraft, the latest air defense systems, armored vehicles, Tanks and artillery devices that are able to hit any enemy target.

But the Azerbaijani Supreme Commander "takes higher", noting that a well-equipped technically, with a high level of discipline, the Azerbaijani army is the strongest not only in the region, but stands out on a global scale, is the guarantor of the country's security.

The President noted that only a small part of the weapons possessed by the Azerbaijani army is demonstrated at the festive military march. According to reports from Baku, during the solemn movement of troops, samples of weapons of local and foreign production were shown. In particular, one could see Drones, armored vehicles, some air defense systems, including the S-300, the recently purchased Russian T-90S tanks. Flew and aviation - An upgraded version of the MiG-29, Su-25, Mi-17 helicopters. Some combat vehicles were demonstrated for the first time.

With the participation of more than 5, thousands of troops during the parade were shown around 300 units of the latest military equipment and weapons systems and over 100 aircraft and helicopters. In addition, there was a sea part - about 40 ships and boats went to the Caspian Sea.

Ilham Aliyev sets more than unambiguous tasks for the generals and personnel: “Azerbaijan lives in conditions of war. It is not yet completed, only the first stage is completed. And the Azerbaijani army must be ready at any time to liberate the occupied lands. " The Supreme Commander is convinced: “Today, the Azerbaijani army is able to fulfill any task assigned to it.”

Aliyev often communicates with the military, personally raising the morale of his troops. Relatively recently, military units began to conduct exercises in the conflict zone, and each time the intensity and number of servicemen participating in them increases, which contradicts the agreements reached with Armenia and the UN Charter.

UPDATED DEFENSE

Baku not only buys the latest models of weapons abroad, but also pays great attention to building up its own defense production. Judging by the official information, there are dozens of military factories in the country, which produce about 750 items of military products, including small arms, grenade launchers, mortars, aerial bombs, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles and armored vehicles.

“Strengthening the local industry, we have big plans,” President Aliyev said. - We already have a very strong military industry. Azerbaijani products are demonstrated at world exhibitions, and at the same time our export opportunities are increasing. ”

Ilham Aliyev visits enterprises and research institutes of the military-industrial complex, which, in a relatively short period of time since the creation of the Ministry of Defense Industry in 2005, have already mastered the production of modern and international standards military products.

Production sites of 31 were created on the basis of factories of the Soviet period. All of them have undergone radical modernization, they have completely replaced the machine park, equipment, production infrastructure. To this end, Germany, the USA, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Ukraine, Turkey, China, Russia, Belarus and South Korea purchased 163 units of technological equipment, as well as more than 5 thousand tools.

The production of small series of small arms, melee weapons and artillery shells, engineering equipment, combat engineering and training ammunition, service engineering and reconnaissance equipment was mastered. The assembly of modern type armored personnel carriers, anti-tank mines, riflescopes, aviation training bombs and other weapons began.

Accelerated development of the defense industry is one of the most important priorities not only in the economic and investment programs of the government, but also in the concept of the country's national security. It is not only a focus on the early resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Baku solves a broader triune problem. With the assistance of the world's best companies, a modern material base of the national defense industry is being formed, which leads to a decrease in dependence on external partners and suppliers, which often dictate unacceptable financial and, sometimes, political conditions. New jobs are being created, which also has a positive impact on the pace and quality of growth in the national economy. Finally, the country's military export potential is being strengthened, which allows Azerbaijan to enter the world arms market as a supplier, and not just a buyer. And all this, the government believes, enables the country to play a more significant role in ensuring peace, stability and security in the Caucasus region.

In the 2010 year, Azerbaijan produced 413 military-grade products — instead of 43 species in the 2006 year. The number of production sites has increased. The Ministry of Defense Industry (MOP) began to fully provide the Armed Forces with ammunition. The number of orders for national production has also increased significantly.

The launch of ammunition for tanks and artillery shells, revolver mortars and projectiles, 2011 mm rocket launchers, 107 mm rocket, laser-guided missile anti-tank missiles, and laser-headed helicopters launched from 122. The construction of five facilities for the production of various types of gunpowder, trotyl and hexogen, and other explosives has begun. Produced 60 unmanned aircraft.

In 2012, MOP established the production of the modernized AK-74 submachine gun, and in general produces already up to 700 product names, including large-caliber ammunition, intended for helicopters and tanks. MOP continues to increase capacity.


Azerbaijan directs the largest budget expenditures to the army.


Ilham Aliyev chaired a cabinet meeting on the results of socio-economic development in the first quarter of 2013. It is noteworthy that the Minister of Defense Industry Yavar Jamalov made a large report there. He reported that in the near future several new production sites will be created. And he reported on the products already produced and handed over to customers.

In this line - PKM machine gun, 60-mm mortar, AK-74M machine gun, various types of combat and signal cartridges, hand grenades, anti-tank and anti-personnel mines, small arms, spare parts for armored vehicles and others. Plus, all the tests carried out by enterprises of the Ministry, 30 armored vehicles and five systems based on an Orbiter-2M unmanned aerial vehicle, which were handed over to the customer, have been successfully carried out. Currently, relevant work is underway to produce 60 armored vehicles and four systems based on the Aerostar unmanned aerial vehicle. Fully completed work on the 12-barrel 107-mm multiple rocket launcher, this weapon is recommended for mass production and adoption.

By the end of 2013, the launch of the series of sniper rifles, 23-mm and 30-mm ammunition of various types for anti-aircraft installations and automatic weapons, anti-personnel fragmentation mines, fire sets for 30-mm and 40 was to be completed in accordance with the NATO standards. -mm mortars, incendiary capsules of various types for small arms, prismatic binoculars for small arms, as well as installation on special-purpose vehicles for various types of weapons.

In the 2013 year, as in previous years, the government allocated funds for a number of important projects, the main of which is the construction of three plants for the production of gunpowder, TNT and RDX. Baku no longer wants to spend too much time on the purchase and importation of these substances into the country, as well as to solve problems related to their acquisition.

And there are also factories for the production of various types of fire sets for grenade launchers, various types of fuses for 23-mm, 30-mm and 40-mm ammunition, 30-mm A42 guns, plants for hot stamping and machining of shells of various caliber for artillery pieces tank guns, lines for the production of shells of fire sets of these shells.

Thus, for the period that has passed since the creation of the ministry, the total number of production sites should reach 47. All will be provided with modern equipment. The process of signing procurement contracts from companies and firms in developed countries around 300 machines, special instruments and tools has already been launched and will be completed as planned in a short time.

Caucasian defenders from the western side of the Caspian Sea were more often seen at major international arms exhibitions. If in 2009, the Azerbaijani defense industry presented 27 products at the IDEF at the Istanbul exhibition, in November of last year in Indonesia, 125 products of various products were demonstrated. And in May last year in Turkey at IDEF-2013 Azerbaijan showed already 130 samples of military products. First time in stories Republic in September 2014 in Baku is planned to hold an international exhibition of the defense industry ADEX-2014.

Against this background, Baku is developing military-technical cooperation (MTC) with Russia. Colonel-General Safar Abiyev, Minister of Defense of Azerbaijan, visited Moscow and spoke with his Russian counterpart Army General Sergey Shoigu. The guest was pleased with the meeting, saying that the military-technical cooperation between the two countries is going very well: “We receive T-90 tanks, heavy flame-throwing systems, and Msta self-propelled artillery. One of these days will begin the delivery of armored personnel carriers BTR-82. Another agreement has been signed and a number of agreements are being prepared. In addition, our military personnel is trained in Russian military schools. ”

According to unofficial information, it specifically referred to the supply of X-NUMX (three battalions) of T-94С tanks to Russia by Russia, about a hundred (three battalions) of infantry fighting vehicles BMP-90, 3 (by division) self-propelled artillery "Msta-S", " Vienna "and launchers of Smerch multiple rocket launchers. And also six (battery) heavy flame-throwing systems TOS-18A "Solntsepek". The total value of the delivered offensive weapons is estimated from 1 million to 700 billion dollars. Potentially all these weapons can be used to recapture the “native Azerbaijani lands occupied by Armenia”.

POLICY ON BACKGROUND

Against the background of all this forced militarization of the country and saber-rattling near the conflict zone, the policy of official Baku today looks based on the words of Ilham Aliyev, so: “Strong Azerbaijan can speak any language with weak Armenia. We just still give preference to the negotiating path in order to maintain stability in the region, since Azerbaijan is a stabilizing state in the region. Azerbaijan has very great prestige in the region. Without the consent of Azerbaijan, no initiative, no project can be implemented in the region. Therefore, to maintain stability and resolve the issue peacefully, we still give preference to political paths. We will try to resolve the conflict peacefully as soon as possible. Negotiations continue. But the military potential strengthens our position. ”

The head of the republic expresses confidence that historical and political factors, norms of international law and military economic power will say their word in fair resolution of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict: “Azerbaijan will restore its territorial integrity in Nagorno-Karabakh and other occupied lands. In Khankendi (the so-called NKR capital Stepanakert. –O.E.), the Azerbaijani flag will fly to Shusha! ”.

Baku’s territorial claims are not limited to the NKR. He is convinced that the original Azerbaijani land is not only the occupied Nagorno-Karabakh and the regions around it, but the whole territory of present-day Armenia: “Our state and people will never give the possibility of creating a second Armenian state on their lands, especially during the military aggression ethnic Armenians were subjected to ethnic cleansing in Khojaly against the peaceful citizens of our republic ”.

Baku demonstratively pursues a policy of isolating Armenia from regional processes, which, along with the buildup of military power and economic potential of Azerbaijan, in the opinion of Ilham Aliyev, will soon solve the problem of occupying part of the country: "We will achieve what we want and restore historical justice."

DEMONSTRATION OF OPTIMISM

And what about in Yerevan? There, of course, they hear how the neighboring country "saber-rattling, militarizing." Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan and Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan (graduated from the Baku Higher All-Arms Command School in 1983) react harshly to the bellicose statements of their geopolitical neighbor.

After the June 26 military parade in Baku, Yerevan, June 28, held a festive airshow at the airfield of the Erebuni military airfield (in 7 km from the capital), timed to coincide with the National Day of Aviation, Air Defense and Electronic Warfare. For two hours, aerobatics performed in the air sports aircraft Yak-55, training L-29 and attack aircraft Su-25, as well as combat helicopters Mi-8 and Mi-24. Aviators drew the sky with colorful plumes of smoke that formed the Armenian red, blue and orange tricolor. Paratroopers performed jumps with flying flags of the countries participating in the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO). All this clearly symbolized the readiness of Armenia in case of which it was worthy of standing up for itself with the support of allies, the strongest of whom is Russia. The 102-I Russian military base with 3,5 thous. Military personnel in Gyumri, as well as the contingent of Russian Border Guards, which protects the 396-kilometer border of Armenia with Turkey and Iran, give particular confidence to this Yerevan. Colonel-General Seyran Ohanyan, who was present at the airshow, announced the development of military-technical cooperation with the Russian Federation: "We have entered an important stage by signing a new plan for the development of military-technical cooperation, which allows direct interaction between enterprises." As for the possibility of war, then, in his assessment, today such a probability is low, despite the fact that there is tension: “But we must be ready for war every day, and therefore we improve our capabilities every day.”

Armenia was attentive to the June reports of the Russian media about the forthcoming billionth delivery of offensive weapons to Baku. The local press was seething with emotions. Moscow has been accused of not having a logic-based foreign policy towards the South Caucasus countries. At the same time, official Yerevan refrained from emotional comments. Coincidentally, Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Nikolai Patrushev and CSTO Secretary General Nikolai Bordyuzha were seconded to the capital of Armenia one after another. The first suggested Serzh Sargsyan not to look for a political background in large deliveries of weapons to Baku, explaining them exclusively to the issue of commerce, in which any country, if desired, has the opportunity to legally purchase weapons from Russia. In support of its position, Moscow signed a bilateral agreement with Yerevan on the development of military-technical cooperation.

It is envisaged that Armenia and Russia supply each other with military products with the same characteristics and in the same configuration as for their own national armed forces, law enforcement agencies and special services. It is clear that the lion's share of supplies will be from Russia. This treaty gave some optimism to our partners, at least Security Council secretary Arthur Baghdasaryan stated that the Armenian Armed Forces have sufficient potential both in terms of the availability of weapons and in combat training to repel any enemy encroachment. At the same time, he noted that the army is replenished with the latest models of weapons and equipment, which by quality indicators are superior to Azerbaijan.

The CSTO Secretary General Nikolai Bordyuzha, who arrived in Yerevan after Patrushev, assured President Serzh Sargsyan and Armenian society that the current level of security in Armenia is so high that neither the leadership of the country nor the people have any doubts about it. The system of this security rests on “three unsinkable whales”: national efforts in terms of the state’s tireless care for the army (combat power and high morale of Armenian soldiers and officers are difficult to overestimate), Armenian-Russian partnership and cooperation within the framework of the “union of six”. Nikolai Bordyuzha stressed that modernization and rearmament of the air force and the air defense system of Armenia is on the agenda.

Against this background, some experts believe that the logic in arming Russia with two opponents, who are both strategic partners for it, is still visible. For example, an expert of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies (RISS), Doctor of Military Sciences Vladimir Zakharov notes: “Arms shipments to Azerbaijan took place after the deployment of Iskander-M missile systems and Tornado-G multiple-launch rocket systems in Armenia. Thus, the billion-dollar commercial deal with Baku is aimed primarily at preserving parity of forces in the region, the balance of which has recently shifted towards Armenia. ”

PSYCHOLOGICAL PRESSURE BLITZKRIG

Meanwhile, the armament of Azerbaijan can not but alarm. Experts believe that at one point Baku may turn from militant rhetoric to business. Although at one time the Georgian-Russian five-day war somewhat cooled the ardor of politicians. But five years have passed since that time. It seems that Azerbaijan can solve its territorial problems only by blitzkrieg.

Sergey Markedonov, head of the department of inter-ethnic relations at the Institute of Political and Military Analysis, believes that such a scenario does not bode well for anyone who first begins to destroy the status quo: “The separation line (called the front line in Yerevan and Baku for simplicity) an attempt to change it will lead to a protracted positional war and the inevitable intervention of external forces, from which there will be no unilateral support for any of the participants in the armed confrontation. "

The expert explains that in this sense, the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict is very different from the Georgian-Abkhaz and Georgian-South Ossetian confrontation: “Two de facto states that supported Moscow fought with Georgia, despite the fact that the United States and the EU ignored the desire Abkhazia and South Ossetia to independence. For the West, it was a conflict between Russia and Georgia with all the complex stereotypes (young democracy versus imperial ambitions). And in Nagorno-Karabakh Azerbaijan fights not only against the separatists, but also opposes Armenia as a recognized state that has strong support in the West. Suffice it to say that the USA is financing the NKR social projects, and NATO is also pursuing its interests here. The Armenian theme is not ordinary at all in France, even at the presidential level. In turn, Baku also has lobbying resources in the West, especially in Great Britain, which, unlike the United States and France, is not seen in consistent Armenian-Armenianism.

The Russian factor in Azerbaijan also cannot fail to take into account, especially since both countries have access to the Caspian. Obviously, Moscow still has a lot of leverage to politically influence the situation in this confrontation in the Caucasus. The repeated meetings of the Russian presidents with the leaders of the two warring states are memorable.

So, the militant attacks of Baku, on the one hand, are an element of psychological warfare against a hostile state (which cannot but irritate Yerevan). On the other hand, it is rhetoric and for internal use. It strengthens the spirit of the nation and explains why it is necessary to direct huge budget funds not to social programs, but to strengthen the country's defense capability.
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  1. +5
    22 February 2014 13: 10
    Azerbaijani leadership presents its army as the strongest in the region

    and not only leadership. almost all Azerbaijani visitors to this site also consider it. and without hiding, they boast that with the appropriate team they will slaughter the whole of Armenia without any problems. and if the Russians intervene, then the Russians too request
    but in general, I think, they are quickly arming themselves so that the Turks do not order too brazenly there (in Azerbaijan)
    1. +6
      22 February 2014 13: 14
      Quote: andrei332809
      almost all Azerbaijani visitors to this site also consider it. and without hiding, they boast that with the appropriate team they will slaughter the whole of Armenia without any problems. and if the Russians intervene, then the Russians too


      Please give an example. About Russians especially. Find such a statement with a link. I’m interested in how you understand not out of idle curiosity. This is a serious charge.
      1. -3
        22 February 2014 13: 22
        Quote: Vadivak
        Find such a statement with a link.

        honestly, I don't even remember, it was so "deep" in time. but find any topic related to Armenia, Karabakh, Gyumri ... there are enough
        1. +4
          22 February 2014 13: 36
          Quote: Vadivak
          Find such a statement with a link.

          Quote: andrei332809
          fair,I don’t even remember


          I remember there, I don’t remember. Does it remind you of anything ?!


          Quote: andrei332809
          but find any topic

          You were asked a point question, you gave this vyser to you and answer. Or am I wrong ?!
          1. +1
            22 February 2014 13: 47
            Quote: Apollon
            You answer. Or am I wrong ?!

            of course they are right. okay, I'll get into the "jungle" so as not to look like idle talk
        2. smersh70
          0
          22 February 2014 13: 50
          less read wikipedia, ekramas and regnum for the night bully
          1. +1
            22 February 2014 14: 01
            Quote: smersh70
            less read wikipedia, ekramas and regnum for the night


            You are not careful either.

            Quote: andrei332809
            almost all Azerbaijani visitors to this site consider also. and without hiding, they boast that with the appropriate team they will slaughter the whole of Armenia without any problems. and if the Russians intervene, then the Russians too
            1. +1
              22 February 2014 17: 11
              what Can I remember when I said that? No. I didn’t even say such things about all Armenians, not like Russians.
        3. 225chay
          +3
          22 February 2014 16: 23
          Quote: andrei332809
          honestly, I don't even remember, it was so "deep" in time. but find any topic related to Armenia, Karabakh, Gyumri ... there are enough


          Andrew, advice:
          do not engage in provocations!
          1. +1
            22 February 2014 16: 25
            Quote: 225chay
            do not engage in provocations!

            Well, they’ve written down in gapons. but just what I see (read), I sing recourse
    2. smersh70
      0
      22 February 2014 13: 49
      Quote: andrei332809
      without hiding, they boast that with the appropriate team they will slaughter the whole of Armenia without any problems.

      That's right, right now you are not 94 years old when the Mameneda peasants took up arms and defended their lands. Right now, in the yard is the 21st century ... By the way, all the fighting fights after 94 on the front line have won ours. I can list it if you want .
      Quote: andrei332809
      if the Russians intervene, then the Russians too

      do not engage in provocations. in our army there are about 10 national heroes, Russians, there are generals, senior Russian officers, ensigns, and rank and file.
      and if any state is attacked, then it must defend itself, be it Russia, Azerbaijan or the mumba-yumba tribe
      1. +4
        22 February 2014 14: 00
        he seems to come from our neighboring republic .. or their lover .. more precisely a fan ..... wassat laughing, anyway, this BRDM will shoot in the near future on their heads .... and if the Attic is there, then understand too. here and worried ..... bully

        now, until I got to the bottom of one topic. By the way, this is yours.
        1. smersh70
          0
          22 February 2014 14: 11
          Quote: andrei332809
          from, until I got to the bottom of one topic. By the way, this is yours.

          right! and what is it, any occupier, any nationality, I, you, the Attic and all the patriots of their states will probably be destroyed. Or, you, the aggressor will meet with flowers .... Then you and I are not on the way, you need to go to France, to General Vichy hi
    3. 225chay
      +2
      22 February 2014 16: 18
      Quote: andrei332809
      almost all Azerbaijani visitors to this site also consider it. and without hiding, they boast that with the appropriate team they will slaughter the whole of Armenia without any problems. and if the Russians intervene, then the Russians too


      something that Andrew apparently grabbed too much.
      I didn’t hear that the Azerbaijanis would threaten to slaughter the Russians.
      being friends with the cheerful Azerbaijani guys even during the period of military service, I can assume that in this way, with military parades, they slightly "raise the pressure" of the great Armenian people on the territory of illegally occupied Karabakh and nothing more ...
      and here ANDREW, and suddenly a typical Armenian technique "cut out the type of Armenians and at the same time Russians."
      ugly somehow ...
    4. -2
      22 February 2014 16: 53
      Armenians will get a lot of good trophies in case of conflict.
      1. +2
        22 February 2014 17: 11
        Quote: Dmitry
        Armenians will get a lot of good trophies in case of conflict

        Maybe exactly the opposite lol
        1. +1
          22 February 2014 18: 01
          Quote: Apollon
          Maybe exactly the opposite

          Partly, because they have nothing good.
      2. smersh70
        0
        22 February 2014 19: 16
        Quote: Dmitry
        many good trophies for Armenians
        I'm afraid that no one will get the trophies wassat laughing
    5. +5
      22 February 2014 17: 10
      Quote: andrei332809
      and not only leadership. almost all Azerbaijani visitors to this site also consider it. and without hiding, they boast that with the appropriate team they will slaughter the whole of Armenia without any problems. and if the Russians intervene, then the Russians too

      belay All Russians? Well, you Andrei are either joking or skillfully provoking a topic and leading the conversation away.
      1. +3
        22 February 2014 17: 45
        Quote: lonely
        or skillfully provoke

        come on. What am I, some kind of troll? it just stuck in my memory how all Azerbaijanis attacked a man under the Armenian flag in a herd (on the website). and when suddenly the issue of Karabakh, Armenian-Azerbaijani relations is raised in the subject, then only militant shouts from your fellow countrymen. it seems to me that we have here (on the site) a "crow settlement" - we can gnaw at ourselves, but we unite in front of a common enemy
        1. smersh70
          +1
          22 February 2014 19: 18
          Quote: andrei332809
          how all Azerbaijanis attacked a man under the Armenian flag (on the site).
          and what do you want us to pour to him bully will write the truth, I him and + and even and pour drinks
        2. +2
          22 February 2014 20: 02
          Quote: andrei332809
          come on you. What am I, some troll? it’s just stuck in my memory how all Azerbaijanis attacked a person with an Armenian flag (on the site). and when suddenly the topic raises the question of Karabakh, of the Armenian-Azerbaijani relations, then from the side of your fellow countrymen there are only warlike cries.


          I would look at your warlike cries if you took away 20% of the territory. There’s not even the slightest hint of the capture of Russia, and already every second one poplars poplars from the USA, Saudis, England, or Jordan. Why lie openly about the Russians? Who said such a thing? And those who come with weapons to my country will not meet with flowers, regardless of nationality. Guests do not go with weapons and war.
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            1. smersh70
              +1
              22 February 2014 22: 16
              Quote: andrei332809
              .......................deleted by moderator Apollo
              I’ll ask Belarusians not to touch, I’m the biggest Minsk citizen here fellow among ours))
              Quote: andrei332809
              and that ALL greatness lies in the fact that he belonged to a great country ...
              you had to speak on December 30, 1991, and now it’s too late, and we didn’t destroy the USSR, but your brothers-Slavs, not so, dear. Remember, who was in Pushcha .....
              1. +1
                22 February 2014 22: 34
                Quote: smersh70
                you had to perform on December 30 of December 1991,

                it was necessary to. but ... Soviet upbringing, 16 years old ... call me, other "pressing" questions occupied Bosko recourse
                Quote: smersh70
                , and we didn’t destroy the USSR, but your Slav brothers

                show me at least one "bai" who is not happy with his "sovereignty"? and the events we are discussing among ourselves (not related to the article tongue ), started just before the disaster? or am I wrong again? hi
              2. +2
                22 February 2014 22: 38
                Quote: smersh70
                I’ll ask Belarusians not to touch, I’m the biggest Minsk citizen here

                healthy, fellow countryman !!! born in Mogilev. then parents were redirected. but every summer until 1990, he spent in Zhlobin (Gomel region)
                1. smersh70
                  +5
                  22 February 2014 23: 12
                  Quote: andrei332809
                  healthy, fellow countryman !!!
                  That's how I would start laughing and I would explain what's what))) drinks
                  1. +1
                    22 February 2014 23: 22
                    Quote: smersh70
                    and I would explain what's what)))

                    ha, I can explain, do you understand? tongue Happy Holiday! drinks
                  2. +2
                    23 February 2014 00: 25
                    tornado wink hold on to the holiday. it's my love, my pain, my life
                    1. smersh70
                      +3
                      23 February 2014 01: 03
                      Quote: andrei332809
                      keep merch for the holiday. it's my love, my pain, my life
                      Thank you !!!!! true, I float like an ax laughing I am a pilot. Here it is, my beloved !!!!
                      1. Alex 241
                        +4
                        23 February 2014 01: 11
                        ]. This is mutual, my beloved !!!! Not with the "Pump" bird?
                      2. +2
                        23 February 2014 01: 27
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        .That is mutual, my beloved!

                        women should be loved, not iron fool happy holiday drinks
                      3. smersh70
                        +2
                        23 February 2014 01: 30
                        Quote: andrei332809
                        women should be loved, not iron
                        You hurt me and Dan laughing good Now he is suitable and we will begin about the Belarusian beauties fellow
                      4. +3
                        23 February 2014 01: 34
                        Quote: smersh70
                        Quote: andrei332809
                        women should be loved, not iron
                        You hit Dan and me laughing good, now he’s suitable and we will start about the Belarusian beauties fellow


                        I am joining! We love iron on holidays, and women always! drinks
                      5. +2
                        23 February 2014 01: 37
                        Quote: smersh70
                        You hurt me and Dan


                        Quote: studentmati
                        I am joining! F

                        Look, touchy.
                      6. Alex 241
                        +3
                        23 February 2014 01: 35
                        And how can you not love it! Happy men.
                      7. +2
                        23 February 2014 01: 43
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        And how can you not love it! Happy men.


                        Happy Holidays, Friends !!! drinks
                      8. +3
                        23 February 2014 02: 02
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Happy Holidays, Friends !!!

                        if so, then ...
                      9. +3
                        23 February 2014 02: 06
                        Quote: andrei332809
                        if so, then ...


                        Beauty!!! good Jewelers rule !!! drinks Happy Andrey!
                      10. +1
                        23 February 2014 02: 18
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Happy Andrey!

                        Happy holiday, Alexander drinks
                      11. smersh70
                        +2
                        23 February 2014 01: 32
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        Here's a mutual, my darling !!!! Not with the "Pump" bird?
                        from there, Sasha !! by the way, go to the branch - http: //talks.milkavkaz.net/viewtopic.php? f = 6 & t = 19 there is just a lot about Pumping! My airfield served at VISP-75 there, 88- 89
                      12. +1
                        23 February 2014 01: 16
                        Quote: smersh70
                        swimming

                        to meet you and touch your face for the "swim". anyway. my weakness are those who see the sky from above.
                        a year in 1996 I got as many 5 bottles of Azerbaijani brandy (as many 5 stars). the date 1982 was written on the label, and we, like the last bastards, together with a friend ate it. We thought about it, we would die in the morning (we quickly ate it in five hours, and then the wives were waiting at home ...), but nothing cucumbers. Now how is it with this business?
                      13. smersh70
                        +1
                        23 February 2014 01: 35
                        Quote: andrei332809
                        Ak cucumbers. Now how is it with this business?
                        No problem drinks you’ll come, there will be a canister)) recently Muscovites came to Ganja on a business trip, so I got them drunk like that, they didn’t want to leave, they had a business trip for 2 days. They said that if they knew they would come for a week. Then their boss called, and thanking, she said that you did something with them, they don’t go to work, they rest smile
                      14. 0
                        23 February 2014 02: 07
                        Quote: smersh70
                        they do not go to work, rest

                        they didn't get sick from the Soviet, but here "they don't go to work!" not comme il faut belay
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    7. 0
      24 February 2014 13: 23
      Hello everyone
      Dear Andrey, I didn’t say such a thing and did not read that one of our tokens was offering.
      We promised to fight and not to cheat our chewing, and you say cut it out.
      I think that you have either mixed up the meaning of these words or it’s the same for you
    8. Past_ Crocodile
      0
      2 August 2014 23: 54
      Between Turks and Azerbaijanis, the difference is no greater than between the great and Little Russians - this is one people, divided into Sunni-Turks and Shiites-Azerbaijanis. Many Azerbaijanis simply consider themselves to be Turks. So, Azerbaijanis do not mind if Turkey disposes of them.
  2. +11
    22 February 2014 13: 11
    If Russia sells S-300 to Azerbaijan, then someone needs it.
    1. +3
      22 February 2014 13: 23
      quote- By what forces can the army of the Caspian state “fulfill the will of its people and liberate the occupied lands”? And what are the chances of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) and Armenia to defend the once "blood gained conquest"?


      The author Vladimir Zuev apparently does not know about the existence of such a thing as international law.
      Vladimir cut yourself, not a single state in the world including Russia has recognized the so-called state formation of Nagorno-Karabakh. For the future, quote it.

      Now for the ratio of the sun.
      1. +1
        22 February 2014 15: 02
        Well, then include here already on the side of the Armenians 102VB and part of the South-East Military District. Rodents also thought they could count. As it turned out - they do not know how. And South Ossetia and Abkhazia, too, did not recognize anyone including and Russia, while the rodents did not try to get there.
        So try it. Faster than GDP, it is swinging to recognize the NKR without any quotes.
        1. +5
          22 February 2014 15: 25
          Quote: alicante11
          Well, then include here already on the side of the Armenians 102VB and part of the South-East Military District.

          Uh, respected, easier. Do not confuse the warm with the soft. While the neighbors are liberating Karabakh, there will be no special movements.
          Another thing if:
          "He is convinced that not only the now occupied Nagorno-Karabakh and the regions around it, but the entire territory of present-day Armenia are the primordial Azerbaijani land," but I think it will not come to that
          Quote: alicante11
          Faster than GDP, it is swinging to recognize the NKR without any quotes.

          Does he need it? There’s no sea there, you won’t make resorts
          1. +4
            22 February 2014 15: 33
            Uh, respected, easier. Do not confuse the warm with the soft. While the neighbors are liberating Karabakh, there will be no special movements.


            Why do you think so?

            Does he need it? There’s no sea there, you won’t make resorts


            In principle, it is necessary. Because Armenia, no matter what, but an ally. But Russia is not throwing allies.
            1. +2
              22 February 2014 16: 14
              Quote: alicante11


              In principle, it is necessary. Because Armenia, no matter what, but an ally. But Russia is not throwing allies.

              Worse than the enemy is only a cunning ally, and the Armenians are the most cunning and not allies, but the same name.
            2. +2
              22 February 2014 18: 30
              Quote: alicante11
              Why do you think so?

              that no one will quarrel over a couple of regions, and not ours, Russia doesn’t need this
            3. +1
              19 May 2016 21: 58
              Armenia is an ally ?? she needs Russia, but at convenient cases she will stab in the back with a knife. It's a question of time
        2. smersh70
          +2
          22 February 2014 15: 30
          Quote: alicante11
          the side of the Armenians 102BB and parts of the South-East

          The CSTO operates only in the territory of Armenia, it has been discussed so many times here. And NK has been recognized by all state as the territory of Azerbaijan.
          Quote: alicante11
          Rodents also thought they could count

          always spell the name of another nation correctly and they will treat you with due attention.
          Quote: alicante11
          So try

          We won’t ask you for sure ...
          Quote: alicante11
          Faster than GDP, it is swinging to recognize the NKR without any quotes.

          do not count your chickens before they are hatched....
        3. +3
          22 February 2014 16: 14
          Quote: alicante11
          Well, then include here then on the side of the Armenians 102VB and parts of South-East Military District

          Quote: alicante11
          In principle, it is necessary. Because Armenia, whatever it may be, but an ally

          Quote: alicante11
          There is just a lot of oil, so they arm themselves "for their own"

          Quote: alicante11
          Well, go ahead. Or, after the "three eights" only to brandish the weapon?

          Quote: alicante11
          08 has already been seen. How some beginners flew away

          Quote: alicante11
          If it were so, then they would have tried it a long time ago. And all just threaten.

          Quote: alicante11
          Explain. Why could Azerbaijan secede from the USSR, but NKR from Azerbaijan not?

          Quote: alicante11
          Yes, no difference. Are you part of the USSR? No, as part of the heiress of the USSR - Russia? Not. What are the questions for the NKR? Come back, then we'll talk about Karabakh :).

          Quote: alicante11
          Well, Russia does not agree with the occupation of its province of Azerbaijan. I hope.

          Quote: alicante11
          Smoking is harmful to health :). And we still need it. A lot of things here in our territories imagined themselves states.

          Quote: alicante11
          No, specifically to "peace enforcement".

          Quote: alicante11
          Well, then VELCOM as part of Russia, in the USSR, all were on the same border ...


          Well, that vocabulary has run out ?! Is there anything else to write ?! I see you have unsubscribed in full, your soul has been lightened ?! lol In one branch and how they "unsubscribed", there is so much "work", "energy" but everything is past. One question, do you act as a lawyer on a paid or free basis ?! lol Do not worry about your fee, I do not pretend !!! laughing
        4. 0
          22 February 2014 16: 20
          Quote: alicante11
          Well, then include here already on the side of the Armenians 102VB and part of the South-East Military District.

          Russia will not get into this war, Azerbaijan will not bomb Armenia, which is always defended by someone. And NKR has not been recognized by anyone, including Armenia. If there is a war, the NKR will be returned to Azerbaijan.
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        6. +1
          19 May 2016 21: 56
          what does Karabakh have to Roossi. RUSSIA RECOGNIZES THE TERORORIAL INTEGRITY OF AZERBAIJAN.
      2. +1
        22 February 2014 17: 14
        The list is far from complete. In general, the infogram is old.
  3. +7
    22 February 2014 13: 32
    Azerbaijan is arming itself and doing the right thing for its money ..! The army must be strong is the foundation of the state! Unlike all the former (Asian), I think the country is really independent! there is and will be! ! (good relations with Russia ..)
    1. -1
      22 February 2014 15: 16
      There is just a lot of oil, so they are arming themselves "for their own." Take the same Turkmenia, also "on the pipe" and also "in chocolate".
  4. +3
    22 February 2014 13: 33
    There are a lot of weapons, different, modern, but there is one thing, but the ability to fight. A conflict will inevitably lead to the defeat of Azerbaijan and the loss of even larger territories.
    1. smersh70
      0
      22 February 2014 13: 52
      Quote: mmrr
      one thing, but this is the ability to fight.

      over the past 20 years, Dear, about a dozen fights took place in all battles, and we took the territory and skyscrapers, inflicting losses on the enemy both in personnel and in armored vehicles. It’s just that not all events at the front are covered in the media. The 90s didn’t exist at all. Read the book of Barents, a lot of things are covered there.
      1. -1
        22 February 2014 15: 17
        Well, go ahead. Or, after the "three eights" only to brandish the weapon?
        1. smersh70
          -3
          22 February 2014 15: 28
          Quote: alicante11
          So get started

          When we start, you will see in the news ...
          Quote: alicante11
          Or, after the "three eights" only to brandish the weapon?

          as Comrade Saakhov said, but don’t confuse your pocket with the state one)))) don’t confuse 2 big differences, as they say in Odessa. There are completely different parameters here.
          1. +2
            22 February 2014 15: 31
            Quote: smersh70

            When we start, you will see in the news ...

            Vurgun, forgive me, but Aliev is a coward! With full technical superiority, he is afraid to lose. He is afraid that Russia will come up and all that. He is not a fighter, he is simply not a fighter and that’s all hi
            1. smersh70
              -3
              22 February 2014 15: 49
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              He’s afraid that Russia will come up with everything like that. He’s not a fighter, he’s just not a fighter

              To confirm this, we must attend their meeting with Putin or listen to the audio recording of their conversation))))) Then we must draw conclusions)))
              And since I know, for sure, there is an order to shoot down all the planes calling at the airport in Khankendi. Therefore, the airport does not work either. Then there is an order for the troops to respond to any provocations, up to artillery, aviation, tanks.
              This is what I am for - the coward does not give such orders.
              But all the same, the hope is probably still warming that everything will end in negotiations and there will be no bloodshed. Well, not all the same, Alexander, it’s decided by arms))) You have a little something to do, so immediately send troops. Here, many offer to send troops to Ukraine, but I like Putin’s policy, he never said anything to them these days. He is silent and does the right thing. He will strike later, culturally, while pondering))))
              1. +3
                22 February 2014 15: 57
                Quote: smersh70
                . Then there is an order for the troops to respond to any provocations, up to artillery, aviation, tanks.

                Not the country of Azerbaijan that would solve its problems on its own. Forgive me, but I think you yourself understand this.
                Quote: smersh70
                . Well, not all the same, Alexander, is decided by weapons)))

                Of course not, but here politics plays a huge role, and now it’s not very calm in the world. Not in a word to Karabakh.
                Quote: smersh70
                .That many offer to send troops to Ukraine

                Well, it’s not from a big mind. Ukraine is a sovereign state, and Karabakh is legally yours. I agree, there is a big difference.
            2. Clegg
              +2
              22 February 2014 15: 56
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Vurgun, forgive me, but Aliev is a coward! With full technical superiority, he is afraid to lose. He is afraid that Russia will come up and all that.

              rather a pragmatist, he understands that if Russia comes up then you can forget about the victory. although you can fight with Russia, but for this, Azerbaijan should be supported at least by Turkey.
              1. +4
                22 February 2014 15: 59
                Quote: Clegg
                rather pragmatist

                Well, maybe I agree.
                1. +3
                  22 February 2014 16: 24
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Well, maybe I agree.

                  Please, Alexander hi on our branch, and then you can’t pull it out of the branch about Ukraine by force. laughing
                  1. +3
                    22 February 2014 16: 26
                    Quote: Apollon
                    Welcome

                    Meet the doctor bully Guys fellow drinks
                    1. +2
                      22 February 2014 16: 35
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      Meet the doctor

                      And who is the doctor ?! Romanov or something ?! Doctors also differ, ENT, therapist, a psychiatrist guessed. Right ?!

                      Hi Ruslan hi drinks
                      1. +4
                        22 February 2014 16: 36
                        Quote: Apollon
                        And who is the doctor?

                        YAYA !!! Right now I’ll disperse all the hot guys in FIG wassat
                      2. +3
                        22 February 2014 16: 40
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Right now I’ll disperse all the hot guys in FIG

                        Well forward the pipe is calling laughing
                      3. +3
                        22 February 2014 16: 43
                        Quote: Apollon
                        Well forward the pipe is calling

                        Look at what we’re doing at the Olympics, it’s already 10 gold and not yet evening! And how many people puffed that everything was wrong? I saved up a charge for the week am That would be enough for everyone laughing
                      4. +4
                        22 February 2014 17: 19
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Look at what we’re doing at the Olympics, it’s already 10 gold and not yet evening!

                        Thanks a lot to the two Victor Anu and Wilde. Exactly half on their account.
                      5. smersh70
                        +3
                        22 February 2014 19: 21
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        I saved the charge of the week for what would be enough for everyone

                        it’s better for them to shoot at hockey players smile spoiled all raspberries ........
                      6. 0
                        23 February 2014 01: 01
                        Quote: smersh70
                        it’s better for them to shoot at hockey players

                        ha, and better from kapave. as I love this car, although it does not shoot solitary feel
            3. smersh70
              +1
              22 February 2014 16: 42
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              With full technical superiority, he is afraid to lose

              Interview with Vesti.Az with Major General, representative of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan Alexander Vasyak.
              I understand that the Armed Forces of the AR are now in a certain “reformatting mode”. But the military-political situation in the region, to a certain extent, is tense, which is clearly seen from the aggravation of the situation in the zone of the Karabakh conflict. Then the question is logical: the reform process, which the new minister is now conducting, will not lead, for a while, to a decrease in the level of combat readiness of the Azerbaijani army?
              - We are not talking about any reduction in the level of combat readiness. During these "100 days", which we are talking about, new approaches to the construction and organization of defense and the performance of military service have already been implemented.
              I will not reveal all the secrets, but we are now much closer to the parameters of the modern army than it was a year ago. Our President - the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Azerbaijan does not only do everything possible to equip the army with the most modern weapons and equipment. He approved the program for the creation of a new Armed Forces, in full accordance with the challenges and risks in the region of the South Caucasus. And the adopted plan for the development of the armed forces allows us to quickly bring our army to the level of the most combat-ready in our region.
              The society is justly proud that the Azerbaijani army now possesses the most modern equipment and weapons, including powerful strike systems. But this is not enough. The task of maintaining armaments and military equipment in constant readiness for combat use is already being successfully implemented. Today we are striving for such an organization of warfare that will allow us to move from war to the depletion characteristic of the campaign of the early 90s to more transient and more effective forms of warfare.
              They will be characterized by speed and autonomy of operations, stability and stealth of command and control. In other words, the ability of our military structure to organize itself from below, without waiting for instructions from above.
              In addition, by decision of the President, all military units are withdrawn from cities and settlements, their deployment is selected in such a way as to provide intensive preparation for combat use. The programs and training system for servicemen of all specialties and categories, from a conscript to an officer of the operational and strategic level, were also revised.
              you can read the rest here - http: //vesti.az/news/193706
            4. MACCABI TLV
              +5
              22 February 2014 23: 43
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Vurgun, forgive me, but Aliev is a coward!

              And for me, he is a pragmatist, very cautious and thoughtful.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              With full technical superiority, he is afraid to lose

              you can win militarily, but lose politically or geopolitically. Most likely, Aliyev will wait when the moment comes when the database takes maximum profit.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              He’s not a fighter, he’s just not a fighter

              where does the fighter, send people to him in battle .... I would also measure it 7 times, then cut it off more than 1 time.
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            6. +1
              19 May 2016 22: 32
              April events suggest otherwise
          2. 0
            22 February 2014 15: 34
            When we start, you will see in the news ...


            In the 08th already seen. As some beginners escaped ...

            as Comrade Saakhov said, but don’t confuse your pocket with the state one)))) don’t confuse 2 big differences, as they say in Odessa. There are completely different parameters here.


            If it were so, then they would have tried it a long time ago. And all just threaten.
        2. +1
          19 May 2016 22: 14
          your words of prophecy began and showed you where and how)))
  5. +2
    22 February 2014 13: 41
    Yes, it seems that the Armenians, by flirting with the customs union and the Eurozone, are putting Russia under attack.
    1. Sosland
      0
      22 February 2014 14: 44
      Comrades in Armenia need to seriously think about flirting and trying to sit on two chairs (an example of Ukraine and its president), as well as corruption in their government. I am not a supporter of either the Armenian or the Azerbaijani side of the conflict, for me you are compatriots of a great country by the will of circumstances found themselves on different front lines, but in my opinion, the Azerbaijani leadership is more professional and far-sighted in its policy and state structure. But by and large it is very disappointing that this is happening, and we are forced to discuss who killed whom and how much, and more will kill.
      1. +3
        22 February 2014 16: 45
        Quote: SoSland
        The Azerbaijani leadership acts more professionally and farsighted in its policy and state structure.


        For this one quote of yours, you will make yourself "enemies" (just kidding) laughing
  6. Mergen
    0
    22 February 2014 13: 50
    I wish good luck and success to my Azerbaijani brothers! The picture shows a tool for knocking out separatists and those who support them!
    1. Clegg
      +2
      22 February 2014 14: 00
      Quote: Mergen
      The picture shows a tool for knocking out separatists and those who support them!

      Kremlin? lol
      1. Mergen
        +1
        22 February 2014 14: 06
        This is the parade in Baku in 2013. 122-mm MLRS of Turkish production Roketsan T-122 Sakarya on the KamAZ chassis at a military parade in Baku. 26.06.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX
        Source: azeryarmy.livejournal.com
        1. Clegg
          +1
          22 February 2014 14: 10
          Quote: Mergen
          This is the parade in Baku in 2013. 122-mm MLRS of Turkish production Roketsan T-122 Sakarya on the KamAZ chassis at a military parade in Baku. 26.06.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX

          well it is clear

          Quote: Mergen
          The picture shows a tool for knocking out separatists and those who support them!

          Do you know who supports separatism?
          1. Mergen
            -2
            22 February 2014 14: 15
            Quote: Clegg
            Do you know who supports separatism?

            Armenians, the fact that their troops will be on the side of the terrorists 100%.
            1. Clegg
              -2
              22 February 2014 14: 19
              Quote: Mergen
              Armenians, the fact that their troops will be on the side of the terrorists 100%.

              If this was a conflict only between Azeri and Armenians, this issue would have been resolved long ago. We must look for a third force, I hope you understand who I mean)))
              1. 0
                22 February 2014 15: 27
                Quote: Clegg
                We must look for a third force, I hope you understand who I mean)))

                Don’t even think about it, don’t
              2. +3
                22 February 2014 16: 22
                All the same, Russia is a superpower, and Azerbaijan is a regional power. The forces are very unequal. Only if the Turks help, and even then it’s not a fact, although what has never happened in the stories.
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            2. +1
              19 May 2016 23: 05
              without a doubt
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    2. +1
      22 February 2014 14: 10
      Quote: Mergen
      In the picture, a gun for knocking out separatists

      Azerbaijan, just as Russia wants to restore constitutional order in Nagorno-Karabakh. By the way, many lose sight of one fact, namely, there is a lowland and highland Karabakh. Both belong to Azerbaijan. Azerbaijani citizens are persons of Armenian nationality registered in Karabakh before the conflict , everyone will automatically enjoy those rights and obligations on an equal basis as the other citizens of Azerbaijan.
      1. +1
        22 February 2014 15: 18
        Explain. Why could Azerbaijan secede from the USSR, but NKR from Azerbaijan not?
        1. smersh70
          +3
          22 February 2014 15: 26
          Quote: alicante11
          Explain. Why could Azerbaijan secede from the USSR, but NKR from Azerbaijan not?

          I’ll explain! Azerbaijan NEVER left the USSR! Our country even voted for the USSR in March 91 in a referendum, unlike the Baltic states, Armenia and Georgia.
          On this account (the separation of the Tax Code) there was an article in the Constitution of the USSR — the Union Republic must give the green light to secession of some part of its territory. As well as now. the Milli Majlis should give the go-ahead in this regard.
          Secondly, there was no legitimate authority in the region. Because the Azerbaijanis who inhabited the region did not vote in the referendum on secession because they had already been expelled. Third, it was not secession because the Armenians self-proclaimed once, creating the Armenian Republic. can be self-determined. If the place where the foot of the Armenian or Azerbaijanian enters is separated each time, then this contradicts the UN Charter, the Helsinki Agreements and the Constitution of this republic.
          1. -4
            22 February 2014 15: 36
            Yes, no difference. Are you part of the USSR? No, as part of the heiress of the USSR - Russia? Not. What are the questions for the NKR? Come back, then we'll talk about Karabakh :).
            1. smersh70
              -1
              22 February 2014 15: 43
              Quote: alicante11
              No, as part of the heiress of the USSR - Russia? No. What are the questions for the NKR?

              And why other republics are not part of Russia)))) you are adequate at all, or came to make fun of ....
              Quote: alicante11
              Come back, then we'll talk about Karabakh :).

              Yes, we were already in the USSR, and this mess started there. Where then was the central government. I don’t know how old you are, but probably remember that Yeltsin also traveled to Karabakh with Nazarbayev in '91 and what happened to him.
              Quote: alicante11
              Come back

              Come to us, to Kolyma, no, thanks, better you are to us (in the words of the hero of the film, figuratively)laughing
  7. +1
    22 February 2014 13: 51
    God forbid, there was still a pancake of chaos.
  8. +2
    22 February 2014 13: 57
    Soon, Iran will begin to tear to pieces .... (I hope this will not happen) The whole region is arming there ...!
  9. smersh70
    -1
    22 February 2014 13: 58
    And the fact that they are strengthening the army is an offensive on all fronts — informational, psychological, economic, and even military (armament) —this is natural. None of the countries will accept the occupation of their territory. There is still no alternative to peace talks, well, if they don’t take it, then already, I'm sorry. I will have to use all the other available methods. The Armenians themselves know this very well. They simply don’t have the courage to free the occupied lands, because the Natsiks will immediately ask the question why Serzhik was fought and hanged on the first pillar. So Armenia’s curtsy towards the EU or the CU has recently shown, or rather, Putin showed Sargsyan what could be with the vaunted, invincible army of the NKAR and Armenia.
    1. -7
      22 February 2014 15: 20
      Well, Russia does not agree with the occupation of its province of Azerbaijan. I hope.
      1. smersh70
        -2
        22 February 2014 15: 21
        Quote: alicante11
        Well, Russia does not agree with the occupation of its province. Azerbaijan

        Why don’t you smoke! Do not want or ended winked
        1. 0
          22 February 2014 15: 26
          Smoking is harmful to health :). And we still need it. A lot of things here in our territories imagined themselves states.
          1. Clegg
            +3
            22 February 2014 15: 40
            Quote: alicante11
            A lot of things here in our territories imagined themselves states.

            All Maidan won ****** and the Eurasian Union. lol
          2. smersh70
            0
            22 February 2014 15: 56
            Quote: alicante11
            A lot of things here in our territories imagined themselves states.

            why aren't you in Ukraine yet wassat just the moment in Kharkov waiting for you ....
          3. +2
            22 February 2014 16: 27
            the Armenians were under the Turks, the Russians saved, the Russians won’t help, then we will become observers of mass migrations of nosed birds to Europe fleeing from the inevitable. I marvel at the courage of the Armenians, so brave behind Russia. Who are you without Russia? And the fool understands that no one.
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  10. -1
    22 February 2014 13: 58
    In the event of a major military conflict, Azerbaijan will be easy to stop, do not forget that more than 2 and a half million Azerbaijanis live in Moscow and Russia, and no one canceled the carrot and stick policy! Shouting with foam at the mouth doesn’t mean fighting.
    1. smersh70
      0
      22 February 2014 14: 08
      Quote: polkovnik manuch
      more than 2 and a half million Azerbaijanis live in Moscow and Russia

      yes you’re deporting the bulk of it)) even already students of Lulumba University))) and the rest have long been citizens of Russia. From what hangover do you have this view that we, Russia, are going to fight, chtoli. We are not Georgia, dear, we entered the wrong topic)))))
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    3. Mergen
      +1
      22 February 2014 14: 11
      Azerbaijan will not go to Yerevan, even the border of Armenia will not be violated. They simply knock out terrorists from Karabakh, which is the territory of Azerbaijan. Map of Azerbaijan SSR
    4. +3
      22 February 2014 14: 14
      Quote: polkovnik manuch
      do not forget that more than 2's and a half million Azerbaijanis live in Moscow and Russia

      What are we hinting at ........... on the expulsion of Russian citizens, the vast majority of them have Russian passports, but the Prosecutor General’s Office of Russia is just right for you to deal with extremism in your statements.
      1. 0
        22 February 2014 15: 21
        No, specifically to "peace enforcement".
    5. +3
      22 February 2014 18: 04
      Quote: polkovnik manuch
      do not forget that more than 2's and a half million Azerbaijanis live in Moscow and Russia

      And what ???? Here I am 1 of the 2 million who, like most of the rest, are citizens of the Russian Federation. How are we going to act as citizens of Russia on Azerbaijan ?? Well, unless you leave the country when I go to fight if the war starts.
  11. +5
    22 February 2014 14: 23
    Yes, the whole world is a mess. The Middle East is in full swing, choking on wars, Ukraine is burning, and against this background, two neighboring countries decided to show who has more scribble, wanting to transfer the military conflict into a full-fledged war. Nobody will win, there will only be losers. A strong army is needed for defense, not attack. It is not necessary to become like the Americans, who bring pain and devastation to other countries, hiding behind their national interests for some reason on the other side of the globe. Peace to you, neighbors! hi drinks
    1. smersh70
      0
      22 February 2014 14: 33
      Quote: major071
      Peace to you, neighbors!

      Thank you Vladimir! The fact that the finger and hand of the United States is everywhere has been known for a long time! But we must conduct such a policy to clearly show that the United States is worse and everyone will begin to unite around another point.
      Quote: major071
      A strong army is needed for defense, not attack.

      So for this army, we don’t want to attack Armenia. Yes, and why do we need it. We only want to restore the borders that have developed in the USSR and with which they joined the UN. And most importantly, return 1 million refugees .. We are not against Armenians, here is the state policy voiced ---
      We perceive the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh as our citizens and guarantee them the guarantee of all civil rights. We want to establish neighborly relations with Armenians on the basis of international norms. We are committed to the opening of all communications in the South Caucasus, the establishment of economic, political, social and cultural ties, the participation of Armenians in transnational projects of Azerbaijan in the future, ”Ali Hasanov, head of the socio-political department of the Presidential Administration, made such a sensational statement.
      all this is possible provided that the Armenians must liberate the occupied lands of Azerbaijan, recognize the genocide committed by them against the Azerbaijanis and apologize to the Azerbaijani people. Only after that we will be ready for cooperation and to direct all our potential, both as a state and as a member of the world community, to the well-being and happy future of the peoples of the South Caucasus, ”A. Hasanov added.
      1. 0
        22 February 2014 15: 22
        We only want to restore the borders that have developed in the USSR


        Well, then VELCOM as part of Russia, in the USSR, all were on the same border ...
        1. +2
          22 February 2014 18: 05
          Quote: alicante11
          Well then, WELCOM as part of Russia

          thank you ahaha 2 times it was enough for the velcom, on the third Azerbaijan will disappear))
  12. parus2nik
    +5
    22 February 2014 15: 05
    They did it Tagged with the Drunk ... oh, they did it ...
  13. +1
    22 February 2014 15: 40
    In the inter-ethnic conflicts, the two warring parties had a snout in the cannon and everyone is good! Some remember Khojaly, others operation RING OF 1991! And a long time ago the Karabakh khanate of its own free will became part of the Russian Empire !! Give it back and be reconciled !!! And we there we will hold the Olympics or the world championship in the game of backgammon !!!
    1. smersh70
      -1
      22 February 2014 15: 54
      Quote: tochila
      And we will hold the Olympics there or the world backgammon championship !!!

      You are already late, dear lol The Olympics in BAKU in the summer of 2015)))) We have almost Olympic facilities, villages, pools in every district. If we had NK, we would have built it there, even more good
      Quote: tochila
      backgammon world championship !!!

      We have long held not only European championships, but also the world.
      Quote: tochila
      Give it back and make peace

      So give back Kaliningrad or the Kuril Islands fellow weak, here we are too))))
      1. Clegg
        +3
        22 February 2014 15: 59
        Quote: smersh70
        Would NK be with us and would be built there, even more

        By the way, is it true that you are constantly building roads?)))))
        1. smersh70
          +1
          22 February 2014 16: 10
          Quote: Clegg
          By the way, is it true that you are constantly building roads?)))))

          Yes, my friend))) the autobahns connected Baku with Russia, concrete road, and about 70% of the road with Georgia. Right now they are building a road with Iran and the rest with Georgia. Then regional roads are still blocked. Work still goes on. True, the quality is not at the German level, but this is another question) they all want to eat wassat By the way, Akkord (a construction company) has already won tenders in Uzbekistan, in Kakhazstan and in Kyrgyzstan ... they are already going there.
          1. Clegg
            +2
            22 February 2014 16: 15
            Quote: smersh70
            already won tenders in Uzbekistan, in Kakhazstan and in Kyrgyzstan

            Eeeee, what kind of country is Kakhazstan?)))))))) Brother, would you also write Kyrgyzstan))))))))))) Or as Secretary of State Kerry said there))
            1. smersh70
              -1
              22 February 2014 16: 28
              Quote: Clegg
              Eeeee, what kind of country is Kahazstan?)))

              I sincerely apologize !!!!!!! of course KAZAKHSTAN !!!!! we have the same Latin)) on the keyboard and these letters are)) so sometimes errors occur !!! hi
              1. Clegg
                +2
                22 February 2014 16: 47
                Quote: smersh70
                we have the same Latin))

                Inshallah, we will cross too, soon. You may need your experience and help.
  14. -1
    22 February 2014 16: 05
    Another country, an analogue of Georgia \ the same form of the USA \. Interestingly, the budget
    countries are replenished with millions of Azeibardjan merchants in Russia.
    Should they be reduced quantitatively or nullified, the country immediately
    poorer.
    1. smersh70
      +1
      22 February 2014 16: 13
      Quote: Neophyte
      countries are replenished with millions of Azeibardjan merchants in Russia. If they are reduced quantitatively or nullified, the country will immediately become impoverished.

      their translations are decreasing every year. Yes, and translations make up only 8% of the income of the entire population. so that’s not what citizens are alive with. do not confuse us with Tajiks ...
      By the way, the Georgians were kicked out and that. They were accepted with pleasure by Turkey and the European Union. give them Schengen visas, like buns in a store, unlike us ..... A holy place is never empty ...
    2. 0
      22 February 2014 17: 25
      Quote: Neophyte
      Another country, an analogue of Georgia \ the same form of the USA \. Interestingly, the budget
      countries are replenished with millions of Azeibardjan merchants in Russia.
      Should they be reduced quantitatively or nullified, the country immediately
      poorer.

      Open your eyes. Today is the yard of 2014, not the 90s. Transfers from Russia is 1% of GDP.
    3. +3
      22 February 2014 18: 07
      Quote: Neophyte
      Should they be reduced quantitatively or nullified, the country immediately
      poorer.

      fool fool fool
      Well why such people does not become less .....
  15. +4
    22 February 2014 16: 53
    Quote: Neophyte
    Should they be reduced quantitatively or nullified, the country immediately
    poorer.

    Nonsense. Objectively, Azerbaijan was in the USSR, and today was not a subsidized region. The basis of the economy is not remittances from Russia, which certainly take place, but their own oil and gas. With the proceeds from their sale, money is also bought for weapons and equipment, with which the army is re-equipped. And this is not at all an analogue of Georgia, in which there is nothing more than wine, tangerines and ornate toasts.
    1. 0
      22 February 2014 17: 29
      Quote: demotivator
      With the money earned from their sale, weapons and equipment are purchased with which the army is re-equipped


      One comment Michael hi the fabulous reserves of the oligarchs, which are generally overgrown, are also being replenished. Personally, my hand would not flinch on them am
      1. +3
        22 February 2014 18: 10
        Quote: Apollon
        Personally, my hand would not flinch on them

        Not only you))
  16. mvv
    mvv
    -1
    22 February 2014 18: 56
    Well, the Turks decided by the hands of Azerbaijanis to help Armenians celebrate the centenary of the genocide with the hands of Azerbaijanis! Oh well.
    1. +2
      22 February 2014 20: 34
      Quote: mvv
      Well, the Turks decided to help the Armenians celebrate a century of genocide with the hands of Azerbaijanis to celebrate!

      Yes, the Turks are on the drum. There they have rallies in Istanbul with slogans we are Armenians, we apologize. The Turks are not the same as before, it’s not the genocide that we have spread before Europe. Report to them. Suppressed riot correctly done. But there are trends that Europeanness will be beaten out of them.
  17. +4
    22 February 2014 19: 02
    Azerbaijanis do the right thing. It’s better to feed your army (even if you’ll not eat enough) than someone else’s (there’s nothing to eat at all).
  18. +1
    22 February 2014 19: 29
    For 4 years, they increased production by almost 10 times. Try hard. A completely normal desire to strengthen the armed forces. On the other hand, as it were, they didn’t do a blitzkrieg.
  19. Leshka
    +1
    22 February 2014 19: 41
    Azerbaijan is stronger in any respect, but as long as there is our base in Armenia, there will be no major war
  20. +1
    22 February 2014 19: 44
    I don’t support Azerbaijan or Armenia, but we can safely say about a new conflict. Yes, it may take a year, two shotguns hanging on the wall should shoot!
    Think about it, you are missing the example of UKRAINE?
    1. smersh70
      -1
      22 February 2014 20: 06
      Quote: APASUS
      Think about it, you are missing the example of UKRAINE?
      and what do you offer 1 million refugees who have been huddled for 20 years, live in wagons ... I look forward to hearing .......
      1. +2
        22 February 2014 22: 04
        Quote: smersh70
        and what do you offer 1 million refugees who have been huddled for 20 years, live in wagons ... I look forward to hearing .....

        Put another million lives (ours and strangers) and erect a monument on the corpses of your independence!
        Why is there not even a conversation about resolving the issue through negotiation ???
        I know Armenians and Azerbaijanis, and not one did not admit their mistakes, everyone insists that the neighbor is to blame.
        1. smersh70
          0
          22 February 2014 22: 32
          Quote: APASUS
          Put another million lives (ours and strangers) and erect a monument on the corpses of your independence!
          I would ask you the same thing in the fall of 41 years !! After all, millions of corpses were laid for the sake of the freedom of their country. Would you ask this question to Joseph Vissarionovich. Your question sounds like a question from the Rain radio station fool
          Quote: APASUS
          Why is there not even a conversation about resolving the issue through negotiation ???
          we’re talking like that, and we’re holding a club in the bosom. educate your outpost. Well, he doesn’t want to free these lands, Well, he doesn’t want to. He’s talking about 102 base ...
          Quote: APASUS
          I know Armenians and Azerbaijanis and not one did not admit their mistakes,
          Have we started the struggle for the rejection of Karabakh, have we chopped off 20% of the neighbor’s territory. At least get to the bottom of the problem, and do not make yourself a peacemaker who calls on both sides not to quarrel over the channel’s channel, There’s another story ....
          1. 0
            22 February 2014 23: 44
            Quote: smersh70
            I would ask you the same thing in the fall of 41 years !! After all, millions of corpses were laid for the sake of the freedom of their country. Would you ask this question to Joseph Vissarionovich. Your question sounds like a question from the Rain radio station

            I would say an inappropriate comparison.
            Quote: smersh70
            we’re talking like that, and we’re holding a club in the bosom. educate your outpost. Well, he doesn’t want to free these lands, Well, he doesn’t want to. He’s talking about 102 base ...

            Bad negotiations are better than war anyway
            Quote: smersh70
            Have we started the struggle for the rejection of Karabakh, have we chopped off 20% of our neighbor’s territory. At least get to the bottom of the problem, and do not make yourself a peacemaker who calls on both sides not to quarrel over the channel’s channel.

            Here I am about this. Again, accusations and no end to this can be seen.
            Each nation in this conflict has its own truth.
            1. smersh70
              +1
              22 February 2014 23: 52
              Quote: APASUS
              Again the accusations and the end of this is not visible.
              there are conclusions, but there are facts. I told you the facts, not the charges. The fact of occupation is obvious, everyone who can
              Quote: APASUS
              I would say an inappropriate comparison.
              This is why. And then the enemy stood at the gates now. That leader was possible, but not the current one, because we are small states and the 21st century is in the yard ....
              1. 0
                23 February 2014 10: 08
                Quote: smersh70
                there are conclusions, but there are facts. I told you the facts, not the charges. The fact of occupation is obvious, everyone who can

                This is precisely why I do not adhere to either side.
                Everyone is to blame for this conflict and everyone cites facts, scenarios, but no one pleaded guilty to even one percent.
                And there is no alternative to negotiations!
                Because otherwise there will be the next million refugees
            2. +2
              23 February 2014 01: 01
              Quote: APASUS
              I would say an inappropriate comparison.

              What is inappropriate ???
              20% occupied. Do not remind how many Hitler occupied ???
              1 million refugees out of 7.5 million at that time.
              Or, as far as Russia is concerned, the pacification of Chechnya is a way of restoring order, others are occupying the land so sit down and talk to your friends. And because of 2 pieces of stone, those who make up 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the territory of the Russian Federation are ready to tear Japan to pieces.
              This is called double standard
    2. +3
      22 February 2014 20: 08
      Quote: APASUS
      Think about it, you are missing the example of UKRAINE?

      The shotgun will fire in the right direction. We will not kill ourselves. We have already done this about 20 years ago. We have learned from bitter experience.
    3. +2
      22 February 2014 20: 35
      Quote: APASUS
      Think about it, you are missing the example of UKRAINE?

      uh and how is the occupation of 20% of the territory with a million refugees connected with the entry of part of the population against the authorities that claimed about 100 lives?
  21. +3
    22 February 2014 21: 38
    Everyone calmed down.

    I have already spoken with all the presidents. There will be no war. The author of the article just wrote something.
    1. 0
      22 February 2014 22: 00
      Quote: Bakht
      I have already spoken with all the presidents.

      do not forget to wash your hands. with soap laughing
  22. +2
    22 February 2014 22: 06
    Quote: andrei332809
    Quote: Bakht
    I have already spoken with all the presidents.

    do not forget to wash your hands. with soap laughing

    They are all very courteous and cultured people. So the negotiations were held in a very pleasant atmosphere. No soap required
    1. +2
      22 February 2014 22: 11
      Quote: Bakht
      So the negotiations were held in a very pleasant atmosphere.



      did the conversation go on like that?

      wassat
      1. smersh70
        0
        22 February 2014 22: 34
        Quote: lonely
        did the conversation go on like that?
        The wind and the wreath foretold his future fate wassat laughing
    2. 0
      22 February 2014 22: 46
      Quote: Bakht
      They are all very courteous and cultured people.

      yes ... with whom they just do not have to greet the handle. and there the LGBT leaders, and the barracks are different, and the olands (yuck, generally disgusting)
  23. -5
    22 February 2014 22: 24
    Armenians are great! They took from the Transcaucasian Turks, calling themselves Azerbaijanis, their lands, which were attributed to the Turks by the Soviet leadership. It is a pity that the Russians did not take their completely Russian lands, which were distributed by the same Soviet leaders, and these are vast territories of Northern Kazakhstan, Eastern Ukraine, and Crimea. Not fair.
    1. smersh70
      0
      22 February 2014 23: 14
      Quote: sem_juver
      blush - well done! They took from the Transcaucasian Turks, calling themselves Azerbaijanis, their lands, which were attributed to the Turks by the Soviet leadership. It is a pity that the Russians did not take their completely Russian lands, which were distributed by the same Soviet leaders, and these are vast territories of Northern Kazakhstan, Eastern Ukraine, and Crimea. Not fair.
      Go, ventilate, drink less at night wassat