Ukraine: point of no return

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Ukraine: point of no return


No matter how sad it is to realize, but the events in Ukraine began to develop according to the worst scenario: the residents of Kiev heard the crackling "Kalash." Soon they will learn to distinguish the AK from the PKK by sound and understand the difference between the APC and the BMP.

Insurgency

It is already obvious to everyone that there is an armed insurrection in Ukraine. The goal is to seize power, so it is absolutely pointless to conduct any negotiations with the opposition, especially now, when every day it gains points. No signed agreements are respected. Every hour of truce for the purpose of negotiations is used by the opposition to regroup forces and mobilize resources.

President Yanukovych has practically withdrawn himself and let the matter take its course, hoping that the crisis will resolve itself. The correct decision on the possibility of use of combat weapons too late. Kiev is given to plunder marauders and militants.

Кукловоды

The picture would be incomplete if we did not mention the position of the West. In a situation where real street battles are taking place in the center of the city, the White House calls on Yanukovych to remove the siloviki from Kiev. The UN Secretary General in a special statement in connection with the events in Kiev, recalls the need to respect human rights (?). The question involuntarily creeps in: “Is this a mockery or a provocation?”

No, and not that, and not another. The representatives of the EU, represented by the foreign ministers of Poland, France and Germany, who yesterday visited Kiev, voiced their proposals for resolving the crisis, or rather, their requirements: create a transitional government, carry out constitutional reform, early parliamentary and presidential elections. Here you have the answer to the question of who and why all this started. And so that Vitya Yanukovych thought well before giving an answer, the EU froze the accounts of "individual Ukrainian politicians." I am ready to put a silver dollar, that Yanukovych is the most “separate” of all Ukrainian politicians.

Remark: according to information on 23: 30 in Kiev, the Verkhovna Rada adopted a resolution on the withdrawal of all military formations from Kiev and other cities. Let's call things by their own names: this is unconditional surrender. Yanukovych regime fell.

Kiev is not all of Ukraine

Today, all attention is focused on Kiev, but the capital of Ukraine is just one city. Will the militants be satisfied with this valuable prize? Of course not. As Lenin, the leader of the world proletariat, said, “defense is the death of an armed uprising”. From Ilyich or from another teacher, but this truth is familiar to the Maidan militants.

The airborne groups of “peaceful demonstrators” had already appeared earlier in the eastern and southern regional centers of Ukraine, and, having received a rebuff, moved away home. Soon they will surely appear there again, only this time they will be armed not with bats and chains. The seizure of police departments, attacks on military units legitimized the presence of weapons from militants. Now, not hooligan gangs will go east and south, but military units.

By the way, what is the situation in the eastern and southern regions?

East is a delicate matter

And in the east and south of Ukraine, the “Ukrainian Front” hastily formed, with its headquarters in Kharkov. Headed by Mikhail Dobkin, Chairman of the Kharkiv Regional State Administration. February 1 in Kharkiv passed the constituent assembly, more than 50 public organizations and parties joined the movement. Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk, Nikolaev, Odessa, Kherson and the Crimea remained along this front line.

Fight Club "Oplot", "Night Wolves", associations of Afghans, Don Cossacks became the core of the People's Guard organized by the "Ukrainian Front".

20.02.2014, yet before making BP of the decision to withdraw troops from Kiev, Dobkin gave the command to return the Kharkov military, sent to Kiev, back. He did not just return the soldiers from the doomed city (and he was right, after a few hours the city was sent to the slaughter), he withdrew himself from the subordination of presidential power.

Now it is clear that any order from Kiev Kharkov will be viewed through the prism of their interests. And not necessarily a decision will be in favor of Kiev. Thus, the mayor of Kharkov, Gennady Kernes, said that in the event that supporters of Maidan were to speak in Kharkov, the “demonstration” would be harshly suppressed within an hour.

Third force

Of course, besides the big players, there are smaller figures on the political field. In Odessa, about a hundred young people in masks, helmets and bats arrived at the administration building, where supporters of Maidan gathered. Young people broke through the police chain (Odessa maydanshchiki tried to hide behind the backs of the officers of the power organs so hated by them) and ... These shots are hard to watch: flashing bits, blood, people's cries, hysterical cries of women leave an impression. Bestial cruelty Kiev maydanovtsev spawned the same beast.

As we see, not all supporters of the “anti-Maidan” agree to keep themselves within certain limits, as the Ukrainian Front prescribes. They consider it quite acceptable to use "maydanovskie" methods and tactics. If in the western regions the offices of the Party of Regions are being smashed, then in the eastern regions the offices of Freedom and UDAR are burning.

Fruit

Let's try to look a little bit ahead. As with weather forecasters, in politics, the more distant the forecast, the more likely the error. But we still try.

Hopefully, it will do without a full-scale civil war, and the clash of Ukraine’s East and West will be limited to a mere demonstration of power. Neither Germany, nor Poland, nor Russia are interested in having a country leading a civil war at their side, and therefore they will try to push each side to some kind of compromise.

In this situation, the Ukrainian Front will “knock out” for itself the maximum degree of independence. Depending on what kind of fist he manages to gather in a short time, the conversation will be about autonomy, federation or full separation. If the Federal Republic of Ukraine (FRUkt) appears on the political map, the division of the country will become only a matter of time. 2014 year even more dilute the already far from each other, East and West, and the farther, the more they will diverge.

"Ogalichennaya" Ukraine

The middle part of Ukraine, which will be under the “Galicians”, is not very lucky. In all institutions will appear portraits of Bandera, which will return the title of "Hero of Ukraine", the UPA soldiers will become an example for young people. On the pedestal, instead of the overthrown Lenin, a figure of Skoropadsky will be installed, Shchorsa will replace Petlyura, and instead of the Unknown Soldier under the Eternal Flame the remains of an unknown soldier of the SS division “Galicia” will rest. Children of Russian-speaking residents of Kiev, brought up in a new spirit, will speak with their parents in the Ukrainian language.

As for hopes for the future prosperity of Ukraine within the EU, they are unlikely to come true.

God forbid that I was mistaken.

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  1. +26
    21 February 2014 07: 37
    I feel sorry for ordinary people. As always, the radicals will seize the power and will "cut" what is left or take away "all the sweet things" from their predecessors, the traders will profit from speculation of products, the governing bodies will be idle for a long time, not knowing what orders and from whom to execute, the country will slide into ruin ... In general, it sucks.
    1. +64
      21 February 2014 08: 02
      An hour of testing!

      A dead, lifeless gaze
      Through the black fog
      Watching burnt windows
      On the crazy Maidan!

      Dread anger splashing
      City Hell Magnet
      In a flurry of fire and iron
      "Berkut" is a wall!

      Hate breaks wildly
      Friends fall nearby!
      Need to survive, guys !!!
      And you can’t retreat!

      Gloomy time will end
      Happiness and peace will come to YOU!
      Your happy grandchildren
      They will bring joy to YOUR house!

      Watching with supplication and hope
      IN YOUR MAN'S HEART
      Clean and gentle look
      YOUR home country!

      The blue sky will be back!
      Covering the city with silence
      Well, for now guys
      It is necessary to keep a clear line!

      If at least one of the soldiers in this unit reads my lines? I will know that one of the segments of my time I have lived for good reason!
      Dedicated to the fallen and living soldiers of the "BERKUT" subdivision!
      1. +27
        21 February 2014 08: 20
        In light of recent events, I want to think that Putin understands that the war is no longer in Libya or Syria, but on our borders. Volodya prepare the army! In such circumstances, you can also nightmare a large business. Let them throw themselves on the defensive.
        1. Toporkoff
          +20
          21 February 2014 08: 59
          It's time to get real. Army Group Center has already taken Kiev.
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      4. +7
        21 February 2014 08: 26
        Eternal memory to the heroes
        the video cannot be inserted, so only the link
        http://vk.com/video92198422_167381923
        1. +9
          21 February 2014 11: 16
          According to a remark: it was officially announced that the decision of the Rada to withdraw troops was illegitimate. There was no quorum.
          1. -1
            21 February 2014 17: 07
            Last night I watched the broadcast from Rada. Mostly there was opposition and only a few people from the Regions.
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      5. +14
        21 February 2014 22: 55
        Today I met on the network, but the author is not known

        The boys stood by the wall
        While the parliamentary flock
        The country was divided among themselves,
        Dreaming about privileges ...
        Standing in the rain, standing in the snow
        They stood - under the spit and obscenities.
        They stood - they need them all ...
        They stood - because they are soldiers.
        Once again - in manure - by eyebrow,
        Covering the parasites
        They stood - blackened face -
        Until someone’s Pyrrhic victory ...
        They stood tight, like an old man.
        They stood - not sparing the body.
        Burned - a torch alive
        Paid lawlessness.
        They stood - to gray hair
        To the lying funeral feast
        My sons are native blood
        And the stepsons of their homeland.
        They were betrayed - a hundred times
        And again, the Judas will betray.
        Standing riot police. Special Forces stood.
        The boys stood - like a miracle ...
        And with them - under the Cross,
        Prayer and Spirit - together
        Three monks fought their battle
        Like officers of the highest honor.
        And if someone goes too far -
        I’ll add up the epics about them.
        Glory to the heroes is to them,
        To the holy sufferers of Ukraine
        1. +4
          22 February 2014 07: 09
          Bravo! hat off to your talent! not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! The guys are very sorry! given to the slaughter by the power-rag, they fulfilled their duty to the end! they did not chicken out, did not run away when they were, in fact, unarmed, doused with a combustible mixture, fired upon by the militants! eternal memory to those who laid down their heads while carrying out the orders of the "stupid" fathers-commanders!
    2. Dimonanet
      +5
      21 February 2014 11: 34
      It looks like this tactic will now be IMHO:
      Yanukovych will fulfill all the requirements of Geyropa and the USA!
      They said to remove BB and Millicia, let him clean!
      Let's see what happens after that! continue ... pogroms ... fires ... robberies ... killings !!!
      Then we ask directly to the forehead of all these freaks what to do next ???
      And we will transfer all responsibility for this batch to GEYROPU AND USA !!!
      Having clearly designated them as ENEMIES !!!
      1. +11
        21 February 2014 11: 52
        Quote: Dimonanet
        And we will transfer all responsibility for this batch to GEYROPU AND USA !!!

        Yes, in my opinion, it’s deeply poher that we’ll throw it over there, it’s my personal opinion, dear Dimonanet hi
        Quote: Dimonanet
        Having clearly designated them as ENEMIES !!!

        Well, unlike our supreme elite(horseradish)who still consider them partners, they have always considered us and consider them enemies and have never been mistaken to our account! drinks
        1. acute
          +1
          24 February 2014 18: 35
          That's right, it's time to call a spade a spade. Which partners ?. These are ENEMIES and enemies on which it is necessary not only to look, but also to fight with them. In war as in war. On x ... p of such partners
      2. hummel83
        +12
        21 February 2014 12: 18
        Fuck you che on them. When militants burn the columns in Chechnya, they showed without batting an eye how the Russians were killing "peaceful freedom fighters." And when Georgia first attacked Ossetia, gouging our peacekeepers. At the same time, we began to respond only a day later. - And still, in the west, the official version is that this is the aggression of big Russia against small Georgia (and many of our liberal media also talk about this - but more mildly - Russia "provoked")
        1. +5
          21 February 2014 16: 02
          What is in Ukraine, carefully hiding from the general public
          1. shatu
            0
            23 February 2014 04: 51
            Here, yeshkin cat!
            After watching the plot, I remembered that today I walked past the hotel, 2 guys in passing asked me if there were military units here, asked what purpose they were interested in, laughed and parted.
            And now I think, damn it, to call the FSB or something, otherwise the hell knows, Russia is next in line?
            In short, I think it's time to remember the Soviet posters like, "Don't talk!"
          2. comrade Bitch
            0
            23 February 2014 21: 11
            complete Kiselevism of the brain ... in order to understand what is happening today in Kiev, you need to live here and see for yourselves the events. -fu, Putin's 0-Goebbel agitprop
          3. acute
            0
            24 February 2014 18: 45
            Ukraine needs new anti-fascist leaders, not governors appointed by Yanek
          4. acute
            0
            24 February 2014 18: 51
            Guys, when was this? Look at the number. Everything has changed for the worse
      3. +6
        21 February 2014 12: 52
        What do Ukrainians do? Take everything into your own hands (bits, mounts, firearms). A bunch of Bendera + a herd of liberal sheep is not a people at all.
        Even if the bureaucrats are cowardly, even if there is foreign funding, this is not a reason to stock up on matches and sit back in their hole.
        Otherwise, the next will be the intervention of any Romanian-Polish rabble and the Syrian scenario.
        There are few real violent ones, and there are no leaders. Hope for the Cossacks. Well, to diplomacy and the Armed Forces of Russia.
        Threat I do not want to seem like a provocateur, but it seems to me that they will not disperse peacefully.
        1. tanya.petrova
          +2
          23 February 2014 09: 45
          - Volodya stands quietly on the sidelines, examines the Olympiad, Obama even congratulated him on the cool conduct of the Olympiad, and congratulated himself on the excellent conduct of the special operation. bitterly admit, but will have to, weak attempts to hastily organize in the southeast will not lead to anything. no strength, no funds, no leaders.
          For 20 years no one was thinking about anything, neither with us, nor among them. All earned loot, no more or less effective, passionate organizations in the east there. all dosvidos. and rightly so. Yanukovych is Gorbachev for Ukraine
      4. +2
        21 February 2014 14: 51
        Quote: Dimonanet
        They said to remove BB and Millicia, let him clean!

        "Around treason, cowardice and deceit ..."
      5. Garrym
        +7
        21 February 2014 17: 18
        And they never intended to be FRIEND
        YAMI. They only care about their own interests.
        Sorry for the mistake in the text
      6. Lesnik
        +1
        21 February 2014 17: 30
        And who cares and how they are designated
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    4. Korsaralf
      -16
      21 February 2014 15: 10
      I want to try to reach out to you.

      I live in Ukraine. But regarding the events taking place in Ukraine, you are absolutely wrong. You call people "radicals" and "Banderites" whose only asset is their self-esteem and striving for freedom from humiliating living conditions.
      Because total corruption, nepotism and permissiveness of "those in power" are already in the liver.

      And now about the events on the Maidan:

      On this site they do not say - they just scream with foam at the mouth that there is lawlessness and "rebellion" in Ukraine on the Maidan!

      The answer is:

      Pension 1000 UAH is a mess!
      The salary of a doctor 2000 UAH is a mess!
      The new palace of Yanukovych is a mess!
      The fact that a bandit can be identified by police shoulder straps is a mess!
      Beating peaceful demonstrations is chaos!
      Torture in the forest and the killing of unarmed people is chaos!
      The abduction of wounded from clinics and mockery of them is such a lawlessness that it seems to be infinite no longer !!!
      On the streets they grab ordinary passers-by and throw in jail - this is a mess!
      Beating the elderly, women and students is a mess !!!
      Our courts are lawlessness!
      Our traffic police is a mess!
      A power prison is a precedent in general!
      77 killed - it's mess!

      And you call lawlessness that the people rebelled against everything that is written above ???

      Think people !!!!
      1. +1
        21 February 2014 15: 46
        Somewhere I already read it
        1. +7
          21 February 2014 16: 08
          Quote: nekish
          Somewhere I already read it

          On most Ukrainian TV channels and sites, such dialogues are full.
          People have been taken to extremes by power, and the Anglo-Saxons have deftly used it.
          But this, for some reason, blame Mosk @ lei.
      2. +6
        21 February 2014 15: 47
        Quote: KorsarAlf
        Think people !!!!

        You need to think during the election
        right now, Pan Klitschko will come and will receive 5000 hryvnias?
        Perhaps for the first time they will give you a loan of a couple billion, enough for a year ....
      3. +15
        21 February 2014 16: 12
        Korsaralf
        Well, well ... to get knocking ... you registered on the site today ... what, the warrior of the propaganda front?
        Knock better on your head with something dull and hard. maybe everything will fall into place there?
        What do you call "natural self-esteem" - the fact that the barrrrans are following the leaders who are trying to put Ukraine cancer on the European panel? Leaders for whom the fascist executioners of the Ukrainian people are national heroes? Moreover, these leaders are no more honest than Yanukovych ... nothing .... they rush to the trough in spite of everything and have already caused damage to Ukraine, exceeding everything Stolen by all thieves of Ukraine combined. Do you understand that these maydauns have already driven Ukraine to the porch? You understand that you are not thieves. and the squatters literally drove the country into poverty - first by political methods, years of chaos, and now causing significant damage. Do you understand that you will now have to feed, otherwise Ukraine will turn into Tajikistan thanks to the efforts of the independent forces?
        Does this dignity force the Barran to go to the Maidan with axes and bats, for peaceful protest? Your rasings about the abductions and torture in the forest look very touching ... by unknown persons in black jeeps with a speech without a Ukrainian accent - are so maydaunas screaming? :))) The rebellion is led by the same organizations. what, for example. organized a massacre near the Vilnius TV tower - after all, there the Lithuanians from the Krai Guard Service there also shot their own. to blame our ...
        And peaceful students and old women. killing police officers, leaving behind hundreds of policemen with gunshot wounds themselves chose their fate. And there is no reason to drop tears of indignation at bandits and murderers and those. who helps them kill.

        The vast majority of us in Ukraine have relatives - I, for example, have relatives - in Fastov and Lubny. They are Ukrainians, real, not bandarlogs. People are furious and wait when finally the maydown fascists will be handed over.

        So, we don’t need to be impudent and so stupid to lie here - reasonable people are here. not maydauny - your stupid propaganda will not fail. Get better on Matsdown - to kill Ukrainians and destroy Ukraine - there you will bring more benefit to your masters.
        1. +4
          21 February 2014 16: 42
          Quote: smile
          Get better on Matsdown - to kill Ukrainians and destroy Ukraine - there you will bring more benefit to your masters.

          Or maybe in vain we release ??? Let's try re-education! ?? hi drinks
          1. +9
            21 February 2014 16: 55
            Arberes
            It’s hard to re-educate IT ... and even more so if it doesn’t happen ...- but even if you find yourself in a broken trough - or rather, in a devastated country (and the independents have already ruined it), they will always find other guilty parties - for example, us.
            Wono won’t understand that she herself destroyed her country together with the same ones as won .... under the strict guidance of all well-known puppeteers.
            The lessons of Syria and Libya mean nothing to such people - in the head, washed with rather unpretentious, but massive propaganda, all rubbish has accumulated and petrified ... words can no longer be punched, just with a blunt and hard object on the head .... :))) And since people like Vono have already begun to shoot (and then it will obviously be whipping), then perhaps it is time for them to understand what a bullet is in the ass .... you can’t re-educate yourself with other methods. Moreover, the rebellion must first be crushed, and then they can be brought up.
            1. +4
              21 February 2014 17: 01
              Quote: smile
              And since people like Vono have already begun to shoot (and then it will obviously be whipping), then perhaps it is time for them to understand what a bullet is in the ass .... you can’t re-educate yourself with other methods. Moreover, the rebellion must first be crushed, and then they can be brought up.

              You know how to convince, my friend, I can not argue with you! Let's entrust the matter to professionals? "Berkut" has been waiting for him there for a long time!
              1. +2
                23 February 2014 17: 54
                The problem now is in giving the order to "Berkut", there is no such strength and will. East and South will pickle until they start cutting and rape right in their homes. Russia will play "honest guys", and the Americans with the Gay Europeans will do their dirty work. And this is not pessimism, this is historical truth.
        2. +4
          21 February 2014 17: 07
          Quote: smile
          People are furious and wait when finally the maydown fascists will be handed over.

          Unfortunately, smile will not convey ... Yanukovych was blown away! He doesn’t understand that you can only make concessions when you destroy the infection! Apparently between the country and his own wallet, he chose the second option ..
          1. +5
            21 February 2014 18: 03
            invisibility
            I am not a prophet. I do not know how this will end. What Yanukovych is, obviously, with the hunchback there is one thing in common - lack of will and a tendency to succumb to rude pressure (well, and ordinary ... so to speak, short-sightedness and unreasonableness).
            As for his wallet, I don’t know what he’s thinking about. But the fact that he will be ravaged and imprisoned if bandarlogs prevail personally I have no doubt. And for political reasons and because his political opponents love their wallet no less, and maybe more than him.
            In any case, if bandarlogs are not transmitted throughout Ukraine, in any case, in half, they will not pass. If the maydaunas continue to destroy Ukraine, then it will simply split. See what happens in Kharkov in the Crimea. I do not want to believe that Euro-fascists will be able to come there.
            Let's see, in general ....
            1. +5
              21 February 2014 19: 30
              Quote: smile
              I am not a prophet.

              I hope no.
              What is disturbing is a fact. I am from the Rostov region and the neighborhood of the Caucasus, and (!) Bendera is more than alarming. 1939 year. It is necessary to push the boundaries. They will come for us tomorrow.
            2. denort
              +4
              21 February 2014 20: 06
              It has long been infa that Yanukovych withdrew his money from geyropa to Russia and / or China. I think that’s why he is as calm as a boa constrictor, and he doesn’t care. Bandera will seize power - dumped in the jurisdiction where the money is. but he forgets that he is not snowy - they will find him and kill him in the Russian hinterland, too, because he aroused such hatred among the people of Ukraine with his inaction as Gorbachev.
          2. denort
            +3
            21 February 2014 20: 03
            Yanukovych will be responsible for his softness and betrayal of the people. Neither Berezovsky, nor Gaddafi, nor Saddam Hussein teach anything - you cannot agree with the Americans, they use puppets and then scornfully let them go.
            1. stapler
              +1
              23 February 2014 23: 22
              Yanukovych is not sorry, the grave corrects fools, the Russian people are sorry.
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        4. +1
          22 February 2014 07: 19
          Let's look together at the newly-made "Euro-prostitute": here comes Ukraine on the panel of Europe: look, gentlemen, how I am all so rasty! but to look, forgive me, there is nothing! few of you hang out at serious uncles under your feet!
      4. +3
        21 February 2014 17: 18
        And what about the doctors and pensions for the elderly - what do the guys from Berkut pay?
        Are they living in Yanukovych’s palace?
        Do they sit in the courts?
        You don't have to fool around.
      5. georg737577
        -35
        21 February 2014 17: 20
        I support. People who did not want to be humiliated rose to fight against gangster power. I am proud of Ukraine, here power will not decide anything by force. Not that people.
        And there will be no split of the country. Yanukovych will be convicted, and then Ukraine will quote Putin a line from Lermontov:

        - "Goodbye, unwashed Russia" ...
        1. +7
          21 February 2014 17: 31
          Quote: georg737577
          And there will be no split of the country

          Otkela Are you so naive?
          Quote: georg737577
          Yanukovych will be convicted, and then Ukraine will quote Putin a line from Lermontov:

          You should write fairy tales, believe me you have talent!

          Quote: georg737577
          "Goodbye, unwashed Russia" ...

          Well, at least you know our classics! So not so bad!

        2. +8
          21 February 2014 18: 22
          georg737577
          Well, yes - quite in the spirit of Bandera, let half of the Ukrainians die, but the rest will become free ... slaves of the Nazis ... now Euro-fascists.
          Do you have pride in people who, like barrans, are destroying their statehood, ruining their country ... in order to become cancerous on the European panel and turn their country into a powerless slave corral with a Nazi ideology, a supplier of cheap labor? If only we were worse? :)))
          Are you broadcasting about unwashed Russia here from a European wash? :))) You yourself would better remember hygiene - it smells bad from your lines. :))))
          And as for the fact that the people are not like that — you are right — the people are not like that — despite a quarter of a century of massive propaganda and the frenzied efforts of those forces that poured blood on Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia, who pushed Brave Mishiko, extremists of Egypt, the Nazis do not prevail in Ukraine. And if they continue to split Ukraine, then it will split, but they will not pass to the East of Ukraine and Crimea.

          By the way - how do you like in Javropakh? Is it warm to you, girl, is it warm to you, blue? :))) Do you eat in the trash? Ali prosperity dawned on your poverty? :)))
        3. +3
          21 February 2014 18: 25
          Look, this is the case ... When all that is possible and impossible to plunge into the European Union, we will not want to help you anymore.
        4. +3
          21 February 2014 19: 14
          He has already earned the title of Honorary Geyropec, and what will you RECYCLED to do without our gas, for starters ??? Sweets with fat to haw ??? Industry - NO !!! And we can close the border, close it completely ...
          1. +2
            21 February 2014 21: 32
            I am
            Stasia - you mentioned fat in vain - we also export it there :)))) Although not in such quantities. Independents ruined their agriculture, and now, at the request of the Europeans, they want to bury it in the ground ... deeper. so that in no case could not dig up ... :)))
            The EU does not need competitors. he needs consumers and cheap labor ...
            So, if bandarlogs win, they will have to do with sweets ... without fat .... :))) True, what sweets will sculpt from is also a question ... except that from a dung ... :))) - Europe does not need sweets, but we will have to stop supporting and giving markets and preferences to Ukraine if forces openly hostile to us, Euro-fascists and bandarlogs come to power there .... the candy industry will be put under the knife by European integrators, like the rest .. .
            Such a sad story ... Ukrainians feel sorry ... even for some of the barrranes that were fallen on maydaun, just like in 91, some fallen on defense to protect ... then they regretted ... but it was too late ... these will regret ... the main thing is that it is not too late ...
            1. +2
              22 February 2014 02: 42
              Nothing, they’ll get hungry and they will start to smear Vaseline buttocks.
            2. +1
              22 February 2014 10: 45
              smile (2) EN

              Stasia - you mentioned fat in vain - we also export it there

              The Bavarian salmon came to taste for the independents. Ukrainian lard is no longer necessary.
        5. +4
          21 February 2014 19: 40
          Quote: georg737577
          - "Goodbye, unwashed Russia" ...

          I am not a supporter of harsh phrases. But ... would you shut your mouth. Quote your classics.
        6. denort
          +4
          21 February 2014 20: 08
          American henchman provocateur
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        8. Fin
          +2
          21 February 2014 22: 11
          Quote: georg737577
          - "Goodbye, unwashed Russia" ...

          Literary scholars still argue over who owns the verse; it appeared after more than 40 years after the poet’s death and there is no manuscript. http://www.krugozormagazine.com/show/Russia.1274.html
        9. +3
          22 February 2014 00: 28
          Unwashed Zhora you will clean your shoes for blacks, but as there is nothing to eat in Russia you will crawl into guest workers with tears; - "Brothers help."
        10. +1
          22 February 2014 02: 39
          Georg737577
          You can board a plane right now and fly with a clear dove to your sponsors. They love pigeons ..... use in the back seat.
        11. +3
          22 February 2014 03: 00
          My grandfather fought against the Nazis, and I will fight against the Nazis, and do not sign the people of Ukraine under the Nazis, he will fight, and if necessary I will go there ..... the fascist is not finished .....
        12. +2
          22 February 2014 06: 45
          well! suppose this option! Yanukovych convicted, Ukraine quotes Lermontov's line ... And then? I'm sorry, but I suppose you can hardly count on the previous relations with Russia! all the old freebies will break off! I do not argue: there will be gas, there will be others ... but only at international prices, that is, as for everyone! good borzet! Ukaina is a member of the international community, so please - pay for services like everyone else! How long will they last? or is there hope for the West? so the West has its own problems to hell, both financial and political, an extra mouth will be a burden for them! or hope at random ?! they say, everything will settle down, Russia will not go anywhere - will it drag us as before ?! or maybe so - "a woman with a cart ..."
        13. 0
          23 February 2014 18: 03
          You already stocked up with soap !? Of course, they won’t take such a geyropu. It is necessary to wash.
        14. 0
          24 February 2014 13: 10
          Lermontov - did not write this. It is in Europe that kings washed once in a lifetime
      6. Lesnik
        +3
        21 February 2014 17: 33
        Quote: KorsarAlf
        I want to try to reach out to you.

        And you call lawlessness that the people rebelled against everything that is written above ???

        Think people !!!!


        This is not a lawlessness - lawlessness will be ahead negative
      7. +2
        21 February 2014 19: 25
        Quote: KorsarAlf
        people rebelled against everything that is written above ???


        YOU JUST WANT ONE ENDLESSION TO REPLACE OTHER. BUT BECAUSE IT'S YOUR ENDURANCE, YOURSELF YOU CALL Fighters AND HEROES
      8. denort
        +8
        21 February 2014 19: 58
        and why the militants do not attack the cottages of Yanukovych, Akhmetov, Kolomoisky, Firtash, Poroshenko, etc.? what does the militia or special forces have to do, just following orders? why go to the parliament or parliament, and not the main culprits of the worthless Ukrainian life? What Americans didn’t give such a team? What kind of patriots of Ukraine are you? if you need not Ukrainian borsch, but European borsch ...
    5. +4
      21 February 2014 15: 13
      All passed this RFP Ukraine. Scheduled early elections. This is a war with all the consequences
    6. +3
      21 February 2014 22: 06
      Quote: cobalt
      the country will roll to ruin. In general, it's bad.
      EPOCH OF THE BORN !!!
      1. +2
        22 February 2014 01: 31
        Quote: Azzzwer
        EPOCH OF THE BORN !!!

        Not when I could not think that this, I’m not afraid of the word, scary book is getting closer and closer to reality.
  2. +19
    21 February 2014 07: 39
    A very unfortunate event happened yesterday. A maidan gang with defectors from the PR canceled the CTO and spread the cops to their places of permanent deployment. I say ten times: not legal! But ... if "Berkut" now gives up, the city will be plundered. With an all-Ukrainian perspective.
    1. +4
      21 February 2014 07: 41
      Quote: SHILO
      canceled CTO and divorced the cops at the places of permanent deployment.

      And what, the cops have already returned to the unit?
      1. +4
        21 February 2014 07: 47
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what, the cops have already returned to the unit?


        Not yet, and it pleases.
      2. +1
        21 February 2014 11: 21
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what, the cops have already returned to the unit?

        Of interest, here's another cut:
        What is the likelihood of a military coup, similar to the events in Egypt?
        1. denort
          +5
          21 February 2014 20: 12
          I would like the Egyptian scenario, but alas, it is unrealistic - there are too many traitors in the elites and bosses with dollar bills abroad. these are patriots of dollars, not hryvnias.
        2. +1
          21 February 2014 20: 19
          ВOf interest, here's another cut:
          What is the likelihood of a military coup, similar to the events in Egypt?


          NOT what command structure and the ARMY is not.
        3. +2
          21 February 2014 22: 52
          Quote: Onotolle
          Of interest, here's another cut:
          What is the likelihood of a military coup, similar to the events in Egypt?

          "ZERRO", "0" ...

          There are NO armies in Ukraine, no matter how they swaggered earlier on the site of cheers-patriots from Ukraine like Kars и Akim...
          Which by the way is now not visible in VO, probably the time has come not suitable for mockery and trolling ...
      3. infinite silence ...
        +8
        21 February 2014 13: 28
        It has already been officially announced that the decision of the Rada to withdraw troops was illegitimate! There was no quorum ...)))))))))
        Pleased with Kernes, Dobkin. Uncompromising, balanced solutions.
        1. denort
          +5
          21 February 2014 20: 14
          Dobkin is the only worthy presidential candidate in eastern Ukraine, let’s say so.
          1. comrade Bitch
            0
            23 February 2014 21: 15
            and how a hepa ?? he better sell us buy and sell us again
        2. +1
          22 February 2014 01: 40
          Unfortunately, Dobkin, as governor, is appointed. And this cowardly scum can remove him from office at any time and appoint anyone in his place.
    2. +18
      21 February 2014 07: 46
      Golden Eagle will not give up. They understand who they are fighting. They understand that if they do not stand up, they are guaranteed to die, their children, wives, parents and many ordinary people. Now the golden eagle is an independent force, and Banderlog and Yanuk will reckon with them.
      1. +5
        21 February 2014 08: 09
        Quote: Horst78
        Golden Eagle will not give up.


        Your speeches are for God to meet.
        1. avt
          +10
          21 February 2014 10: 35
          Quote: SHILO
          Golden Eagle will not give up.

          "Berkut" is not a single comrade, it is a military unit that needs adequate central command with appropriate logistic support, which operates within the state. Well, what should people in uniform do when they are drained over and over again, when the power is simply impotent If you want to know, look into history at the events that began in the Russian Empire in February 1917. Just do not look at the revelations of Svanidze's chroniclers, look at least for old Soviet textbooks and historical works of Soviet times.
          Quote: Arberes
          If all of the above is true, but something suggests that this is so, then it is time for "BERKUT" to take power into its strong hands!

          Do they have a Kovpak ???? How do you imagine they will do this without a REAL leader whom they should follow to the end?
          1. +6
            21 February 2014 10: 53
            Quote: avt
            Do they have a Kovpak ???? How do you imagine they will do this without a REAL leader whom they should follow to the end?


            It could not be that everyone from the power elite-army and the MVD-shniki were scared or went over to the side of Bandera? I want to believe that there is such a MAN!
            1. hummel83
              +7
              21 February 2014 11: 17
              Here in the whole army of the Soviet Union there was no man who would take power into his own hands and outweigh the EBNa Kravchuk and Shushkevich in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, for treason and the collapse of the Union, But will there be in Ukraine? - Moreover, there already in key places, I think - the right people — who will block any initiatives. Maybe Dobkin will succeed, but only in the east, and it is not known how many regions will support him, so far only Crimea and Kharkov are together .... we'll see.
              In general, the Parliament canceled WHO - that is, they are handing over power slowly under guarantees for themselves. And if no one supports Dobkin, the same parliament with Yanuk will remove him from power, or even close him, like Markov, then all the scribe ..
              1. -2
                21 February 2014 17: 00
                Dobkin is as stupid a thief as Yanukovych. When you are all drowning in saliva while defending Yanukovych, please explain to me: Why are you being protected by the mattresses you love so much? The US ambassador to Ukraine, Jeffrey Payette, said that the United States is against early presidential elections Ukraine and they see him as the president who will lead the people of Ukraine to prosperity. I understand when the Americans say it, Yanukovych professionally robs his state in favor of the West. Last year, about fifty billion dollars were withdrawn from the impoverished Ukraine apad, who’ll be cutting a chicken, or rather a rat, wearing golden eggs. I understand that when the son of a lawyer Zhirinovsky speaks for Yanukovych, he has such a job, you have to think he’s an eternal watchman so that they don’t think of anything in the Kremlin. I ask you The question for everyone is: What is your benefit in supporting Yanukovych? What is Russia's benefit in supporting Yanukovych? So that he steals more of your money and sends it to the West? So give him more, but not to Ukraine, and he should have someone to ask, he’s your whole budget he will transport him to the West, he will also say little. But you are your boats, the ships will be After that, weld with rails to the berths, so that God forbid they drown. Yanukovych is not yours, son of a bitch, he is American, son of a bitch, they imposed a person and all kinds of sanctions. But they didn’t scream, but sanctions were imposed, they laughed, 20 officials were temporarily canceled visas. They farted like that.
                1. denort
                  0
                  21 February 2014 20: 20
                  Yes, Dobkin had a criminal past in the 90s, but can't a person change? He has been doing something for many years as a measure of Kharkov and the governor.
                  1. +1
                    21 February 2014 22: 16
                    Quote: denort
                    Yes, Dobkin had a criminal past in the 90s, but can't a person change? He has been doing something for many years as a measure of Kharkov and the governor.


                    Yanuk also had a criminal past. As you can see, nothing has changed.
                    One thing that needs to be understood, the one who is anointed with Yanukovych cannot be a worthy leader. There is a thief on a thief, a robber on a robber.
                    1. +3
                      22 February 2014 01: 59
                      Quote: lonely
                      Yanuk also had a criminal past. As you can see, nothing has changed.

                      Well, why are there two acrobat brothers, quite respectable athletes and beauties of democracy. And it’s not customary to recall their past.
                      In the photo, Vladimir Klitschko, the crime boss Borovik (shot in August 2000 in Kiev), the crime boss Rybka (shot in May 2005 in Kiev. He came there to talk with Klitschko about, according to evil languages, debts the latter at 40 lem cu, but a random machine gun queue did not allow the boxing star to become impoverished), Vitali Klitschko. New York, 1996, photo taken before entering Don King’s office.
                2. +5
                  21 February 2014 20: 23
                  Yes, no one here for Yanukovych. Here they understood everything about him. Here against the Bandera fellows.
                3. +2
                  21 February 2014 23: 55
                  Motors1991
                  Under Yanukovych, Ukraine’s movement toward fascism was slowed down, they were pushed to the side completely controlled by the same Americans (by the way, no less thieves) - b .... Julia and Yusch, a number of cooperation agreements were concluded, to some extent the leadership Ukraine moved away from the Nazi bandarlogs. The countries began to come closer to some extent .. now everything is just returning to normal ...
                  And you still do not understand why we are rendering Ukraine to some extent in the person of Yanuk? Why do we choose the latter between the demonstrative Russophobes and the cunning ... and personalities trying to sit on two chairs?
                  Sorry, but you are strange ... What is incomprehensible here - the new masters of Ukraine with slavish psychology will make Ukraine our enemy. They do not hide this.
                  But answer you - why not less, and maybe big thieves, who are now tearing to your power, absolutely controlled by the West, trying to put the country under Europe, destroying all its potential in every sense, turn it into a bunch of consumers of Western goods and cheap labor without industry, agriculture, science and the armed forces do you like more? Dreaming about torchlight processions? Do you long for Ukrainians to lay their lives in wars unleashed by the United States all over the world? Laurels of Tajikistan, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Romania - do not give rest migrant workers suppliers?
                  What will be better with them than with Yanukovych Ukrainians, Ukraine?
            2. avt
              +10
              21 February 2014 11: 29
              Quote: Arberes
              It could not be that everyone from the power elite, the army and the MVD, were scared or went over to the side of Bandera?
              The head of the General Staff of Ukraine has already merged - he resigned. In practice, this is already agony and a statement that all this "Great Ukrainian elite" is a bubble and the state itself is an unviable misunderstanding. And these are not words, not inventions of some political scientist - an imperial, this is quite to themselves an objective reality, which is created by themselves, by their actions, "bearers of independence".
              Quote: Arberes
              I want to believe that there is such a MAN!

              Maybe there will be, but only WHEN ?? When will it blaze throughout Ukraine? At the moment, there is no such person. Then - yes, Makhno will appear, and some other chieftain Grigoriev, and the heifers will catch up - some Marusya. I have already said - having created a "party of regions", they harnessed a crayfish, a swan and a pike to a cart called Ukraine. And they also burned it hot with iron everything that had at least a hint of the Russian World.The current situation is the final apotheosis of the construction of a nation-state according to the Austro-Hungarian, Galician project.
            3. smersh70
              0
              21 February 2014 12: 42
              Quote: Arberes
              s from the power elite of the army and the Interior Ministry

              generally, very few politicians leave this category of people. Politics is a delicate matter, not everyone will be able to make a political career. Yes, and they do not have leaders.
              1. +4
                21 February 2014 13: 25
                Quote: smersh70
                generally, very few politicians leave this category of people. Politics is a delicate matter,

                Saddam Hussein
                Noriega
                Kim Jin Il
                Muammar Gaddafi
                Pinochet
                General De Gaulle, etc.

                But NOW, NOT ABOUT THIS! The main thing now is to establish a minimum order, and then presidential elections based on democratic values ​​and freedoms!
                Another question is how long will the "constitutional" order be established?
                1. +1
                  21 February 2014 16: 33
                  Quote: avt
                  Just do not look at the revelations of the Svanidze chronicles, look at least for old Soviet textbooks and historical works of Soviet times.

                  The history of Russia of the twentieth century. 1-107 series
                2. denort
                  +2
                  21 February 2014 20: 23
                  and who will guide him? the entire elite of the country will not today / tomorrow dump to the west with its dollars, leaving power to a handful of American militants who will establish a "transitional body" according to the Syrian scenario.
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          3. sorokin
            0
            21 February 2014 20: 28
            Quote: avt
            Do they have a Kovpak ????
            There’s no Kovpak, but there is Yarosh - that same goblin am . Granddaughter of Bandera.
      2. +8
        21 February 2014 08: 22
        Quote: Horst78
        Golden Eagle will not give up. They understand who they are fighting. They understand that if they do not stand up, they are guaranteed to die, their children, wives, parents and many ordinary people. Now the golden eagle is an independent force, and Banderlog and Yanuk will reckon with them.

        I just came home from work and now I am horrified reading the latest news! If all of the above is true, but something suggests that this is so, then it is time for "Berkut" to take power into its strong hands! Trinity of Maidan people to the wall, and to hell with Yanukovych! I would like to believe that the army will support the initiative of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine ???
        1. +11
          21 February 2014 09: 36
          Quote: Arberes
          it's time for "BERKUT" to take power into their strong hands! Trinity of Maidan people to the wall, and to hell with Yanukovych! I would like to believe that the army will support the initiative of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine ???

          Golden eagle is not enough. The army should come forward, unless of course there was some kind of army in Ukraine. And it is time for Eastern Ukraine to mobilize its army and lead it to Kiev, reserve officers and volunteers will be found. There will be weapons. Kiev can not be given.
          1. +2
            21 February 2014 13: 23
            Quote: Polar
            And it is time for Eastern Ukraine to mobilize its army and lead it to Kiev, reserve officers and volunteers will be found. There will be weapons. Kiev can not be given.

            Declare MOBILIZATION for a start and enter the mode of Extraordinary Position!
            Set up checkpoints at all intersections. Clear offices and cities from "rebels" ...
            See what the "maydanutye" will make in Kiev.
            Then, at the "request of the population of Kiev" - to clean up to the western regions ...
            1. denort
              0
              21 February 2014 20: 28
              due to the mass venality of the elites and the roll-over of the number of American agents in all holes, this is unrealistic. unfortunately, Ukraine, unlike Russia, is too dependent on the dollar, and this generates greed, betrayal and dumping to where the money is (in Western banks). and after the dollar has grown in recent days, fools will rush to buy dollars, because the hryvnia is depreciating. it turns out that the whole situation in Ukraine plays into the hands of America. at least in the short term. in the long run, with the help of Russia and the birth of new Ukrainian leaders, there may be some chance.
        2. sorokin
          +1
          21 February 2014 20: 31
          Quote: Arberes
          Trinity Maidan workers to the wall, and Yanukovych to hell!
          I would like to believe that on Yanika the wall will not end. His side.
      3. hummel83
        +6
        21 February 2014 11: 27
        Where such confidence. Their work is worse than hard labor to come and stand under a hail of stones and bullets and not answer with anything, and then the aunts come up yelling at them: "murderers, scum", spit on them.
        Here, offer me such a job-come and be publicly flogged every day, and then your own power will also make it extreme ... in general, the ideal option for Yanuk maydauns to be handed over so that they hang him
        1. infinite silence ...
          +4
          21 February 2014 13: 39
          Of the two evils now, you need to choose the lesser ... You can surrender Yanyk. What's next??? There is no true leader in the country. He certainly exists - pathetically))) The surrender of Yanyk now is a huge step towards anarchy!
          Re-election? ... so both sides will be crying out for violations! And the country at this time will quietly slide into the abyss ... although ... The Civil War is the abyss.
          1. hummel83
            +5
            21 February 2014 14: 47
            This is if we proceed from the fact that Yanuca stands in your positions (at least somehow, not decisively - but it does). But the problem is that Yanyk, using his power, himself can drain everything, he will sign a complete and unconditional surrender. Submit an order - to dissolve the Golden Eagle (and they officers must carry out the order of the "guarantor"). Then the Bendera people come to power - they carry out lustrations - everyone who spoke out against them, the trial of the commanders of the golden eagle (so that it’s not accidental). They can even make this show - send to The Hague, for example. (Example - Ratko Mladic is imprisoned for life, he was given to the Hague by the Serbian authorities, although in Serbia itself he is supported by 80% of the population) -
      4. denort
        0
        21 February 2014 20: 16
        unfortunately, the situation now in Ukraine is too reminiscent of March 1917 in Russia - EVERYTHING betrayed the tsar: the common people, the generals, the army, the top ministry of internal affairs, governors, the duma ...
        1. 0
          22 February 2014 01: 37
          No, not reminiscent. It is in Ukraine they sold everything. But in Russia, no. We rearmament for 20 years and continue to do so, and not suffer garbage! You just now want to want to clean up!
      5. Current 72
        0
        21 February 2014 23: 46
        Horst78! God bless your words, but to God’s ears !!!
    3. +5
      21 February 2014 10: 52
      corruption of the top is our misfortune. But they forget that the West does not need it either.
    4. 0
      21 February 2014 10: 52
      corruption of the top is our misfortune. But they forget that the West does not need it either.
      1. +3
        21 February 2014 11: 19
        Quote: Polar
        The army should come forward, unless of course there was some kind of army in Ukraine.


        This is another question. Is there an army? And what moods are there? But are there a lot of young people with brainwashed in Galicia and a portrait of Bandera in his wallet? But will such a person shoot at his own back, because he advocates another Ukraine?
        There are many questions, few answers.

        Quote: Polar
        Kiev can not be given.


        With the loss of Kiev, Ukraine is not lost. And the capital was in Kharkov.
        1. +2
          21 February 2014 19: 01
          Our main task is to manage to save at least the South-East, to prevent the Nazis from seizing upon industry and not fooled people.
    5. denort
      +1
      21 February 2014 20: 10
      armed gangs are already operating in Kiev and are cheating apartments of ordinary people.
  3. +9
    21 February 2014 08: 06
    This is the end of Ukraine! All the same, the fucking Nazis achieved war.
    1. +1
      21 February 2014 09: 18
      Ukraine is dead - long live united Russia!
      1. +1
        21 February 2014 11: 31
        And you are downright evil and bloodthirsty beast (lion). In the Scandinavian countries and northern Germany you would be called a "troll". Tell me, you are not a member of the Masonic "Lion's club"? You too zealously oppose universal human laws, which normal people refer to as morality and ethics.
        1. +9
          21 February 2014 12: 23
          Morality? And leave the Nazis 30-35 million people to be torn to pieces. is it like correlation with morality?
    2. Pehmore
      +2
      21 February 2014 13: 39
      Ukraine There is and will be, the fact that the Nazis raised their heads is bad, but our people beat them and will beat them. The fact that the weak rulers themselves are to blame, there are no good organizers in Ukraine, and there is no need to provoke a massacre. What happened in Ukraine, both sides are to blame, they played too much. And Ukraine is a state, and most half do not want war. Clans share Ukraine, and men lose their heads.
      1. denort
        +1
        21 February 2014 20: 32
        the problem is not the good organizers, but the betrayal of senior management / elites. there are plenty of American agents even in district centers - this is already an occupied country.
  4. +7
    21 February 2014 08: 09
    how do these shortcomings want power, ordinary people hope that Father Klitschko will come, and life will turn into raspberries ??? what are they naive? I strongly suspect that tear off the mask from any bastard on the Maidan and there will be some kind of petty crook from the European Union or an Islamic country, and a simple layman goes behind them without suspecting ...
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  5. Irtysh
    +25
    21 February 2014 08: 10
    It’s amazing, shooting is underway, people are dying, Europe is thinking about some sort of sanctions, Putin is waiting for the end of the Olympics ....

    Why not introduce a state of emergency? Does Yanukovych want a civil war? Or is he corny trying to save his money in Western banks?

    With all my skepticism about the work of the Belarusian Father, he immediately dispersed the local Maydans and immediately covered up the work of the American embassy. By the way, the embassy is still not working in Minsk, there is only a consulate.

    Maybe Lukashenko was right that, for the country's security, the first step is to bluntly close the embassy of our striped partners? And it is very painful to watch what is happening with our Ukrainian brothers. :-(
    1. +3
      21 February 2014 11: 23
      Quote: Irtysh
      Europe thinks about some kind of sanctions


      Already thinking about bringing peacekeepers. Merkel type is ready ...

      Quote: Irtysh
      Putin is waiting for the end of the Olympics ....


      Horseradish will understand what he is waiting for. I hope it will not allow a repeat of Libya and Yugoslavia.

      Quote: Irtysh
      Does Yanukovych want a civil war?


      On the contrary. He tried with all his might to prevent her. That's just his strength is really not enough. And too many who want to tear Ukraine to pieces and cram yourself know where. to Europe. Or whatever else.
    2. hummel83
      +1
      21 February 2014 11: 42
      Europe is the instigator of this conflict - and their task - for Bendera to come to power in ALL Ukraine. Ukraine should be anti-Russian. Yanuk is a traitor and gradually merges the country, like most of the parliament (the abolition of WHO is a betrayal). Putin clearly does not need to intervene there.
      And Lukashenko acted in the only possible correct way - but he did not come up with anything new - everything was worked out for a long time, and the solutions are known.
      -An example in history: 1917 - the goal of Britain was the collapse of the Russian Empire, the civil war - the collapse of the country into many principalities, warring with each other - and gradually they come under the control of the Anglo-Saxons. Therefore, at first they recognized the Bolsheviks - until their plans coincided (contradictions -GV). But then the Bolsheviks began to gather the country, and in the 19th (it seems) year all sorts of rebellions, movements began. The Bolsheviks acted harshly - they stormed the English embassy, ​​they shot someone. After this breakdown in relations, England prepares interventions and campaigns (Polish, Basmachi) and movements against the USSR. In this respect, the Old Man is simpler, since Russia would not have allowed intervention in Belarus.
    3. Antiquetoy
      0
      21 February 2014 12: 43
      For the security of the country, it is not necessary to close embassies, but to ensure a decent life for citizens in the first place.
      1. Irtysh
        +3
        21 February 2014 17: 43
        The American Embassy is a very powerful destabilizing tool. From there financial means for the militants come uncontrollably, from there the ideological leadership of the Yatsenyuk and Klitschka comes, from there all this frantic coder of terrorists and militants is coordinated, from there pressure comes on the not yet fully sold deputies and disoriented Yanukovych, from there the data of radio intercepts of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense ...

        You can continue for a long time.

        The closure of the embassy in Minsk absolutely did not worsen Father's position in any way, moreover, having distanced the embassy of the "striped partners", a consensus was quickly found in solving problems after the elections, there were figures for bargaining in a VERY difficult situation and so on.

        And for visas, if I really wanted to, you can normally get in the same Kiev or Moscow.
        1. Current 72
          0
          22 February 2014 00: 04
          Irtysh !!! I agree with you fellow countryman! Expel all Western diplomats, close the border, and block Kiev from various maydanutyh. Only if there is that person to do all this ???
    4. 0
      21 February 2014 19: 04
      The Olympiad is a holiday of peace and sport; you cannot spoil such a solemn event with the tears of mothers and sisters.
    5. denort
      +1
      21 February 2014 20: 34
      the West is now behaving in relation to Ukraine as well as to Syria. militants kill civilians and police, and the media says that these are victims of the bloody regime. in Ukraine, the Syrian scenario is implemented.
  6. +9
    21 February 2014 08: 28
    Everything is clear and painful to everyone. Http: //topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/317/mlvi229.jpg
    1. +2
      21 February 2014 08: 56
      To insult animals with such pictures, Maidan muzzles hung up and ghouls are not like any animal.
    2. Alexander I
      +3
      21 February 2014 10: 26
      do not insult innocent animals
      1. 0
        21 February 2014 19: 06
        Monkeys are our closest relatives, you can’t do this with them.
  7. +27
    21 February 2014 08: 35
    Ukraine has never been and will not be a separate state. It is now under Poland, then under Romania, then under the Turks. And only when it became part of Russia, it was Ukraine, and then not for long. Ukraine does not know how to live independently, it is always someone to blame, only not it. Waiting for cons))).
    1. +2
      21 February 2014 12: 24
      Quote: Oleg56.ru
      Waiting for cons))).

      Normally written. What are the cons? wink
    2. +4
      21 February 2014 14: 45
      Quote: Oleg56.ru
      Ukraine does not know how to live independently, it’s always someone's fault, only not it

      That's for sure, I remember arguing with one Ukrainian (back in 92), he almost got into a fight:
      - "We feed everyone, we have mastered the whole Siberia for you, so we will separate and we will ride like cheese in butter"
      Well separated, and then what? And the farther, the deeper into .......
      1. +2
        21 February 2014 15: 46
        Quote: Oleg56.ru
        Ukraine has never been and will not be a separate state. It is now under Poland, then under Romania, then under the Turks. And only when it became part of Russia, it was Ukraine, and then not for long. Ukraine does not know how to live independently, it is always someone to blame, only not it. Waiting for cons))).


        There will be no cons, he said everything correctly. This artificial education for 23 years has shown its failure and what is happening now is a sad outcome
        1. 0
          21 February 2014 19: 10
          No matter how terrible it is to say, but the result is quite logical. When for more than twenty years the authorities drank people and denigrated the glorious Soviet past, inventing all sorts of eccentricities like the most ancient Ukrainian civilization - the final was quite obvious.
      2. 0
        21 February 2014 17: 31
        In 92 ??
        I was still in 79 in Kharkov (!) From my friend I heard such a bootleg.
        Now I would ask him: Well, Serega Krasnogradsky, separated? How do we live? What are we skating about?
    3. +1
      22 February 2014 02: 04
      Quote: Oleg56.ru
      She is near Poland

      The poles on the network have already begun to de-Ukraine.
      1. brownie
        +1
        22 February 2014 03: 03
        Something this pshek in a craving for the fine arts beguiled. I forgot about the eternal dream of all true Poles - "Poland from sea to sea". Disorder! I hope he at least gets scolded smile And the residents of Odessa will be delighted. They were included in the membership of the European Union - Romania. In the Odessa region there are still living witnesses of the past arrival of "European integrators v1.0". They remember well what the proud descendants of Vlad the Impaler did. And they will be "immensely happy and happy" am their new arrival.
        And if it is serious - is it worth it to be indignant about the obsessive fantasies of the "clear-cut cattle"? But you need to take a note!
  8. Azaat
    +5
    21 February 2014 08: 48
    Look "Berkut", then at the orders of the authorities, then at the undercover fuss of Yanyk, then at the death of their comrades will return to their homes and will protect him, and not a gang of politicians.
    1. +1
      21 February 2014 09: 02
      they will not do so. They are true WARS and will be faithful to the oath until the last minutes of life
      1. hummel83
        +1
        21 February 2014 11: 51
        "They will not do so. They are real WARRIORS and will be faithful to the oath until the last minutes of their lives."
        Some kind of romantic nonsense. Oath to whom? - Supreme Commander-in-Chief Yanyk? who can still bring them to justice, parvit for the murder of "peaceful" demonstrators.
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    2. hummel83
      0
      21 February 2014 11: 53
      Quote: Azaat
      Look "Berkut", then at the orders of the authorities, then at the undercover fuss of Yanyk, then at the death of their comrades will return to their homes and will protect him, and not a gang of politicians.

      I agree if I were already a Berkutian, it would be desirable if I joined the Bastion with a weapon or something else. - but Yanyk would definitely not obey anymore
      1. +1
        21 February 2014 15: 48
        Quote: hummel83
        "They will not do so. They are real WARRIORS and will be faithful to the oath until the last minutes of their lives."
        Some kind of romantic nonsense. Oath to whom? - Supreme Commander-in-Chief Yanyk? who can still bring them to justice, parvit for the murder of "peaceful" demonstrators.


        The oath is given to the country and not to the ruler.
      2. Current 72
        0
        22 February 2014 00: 12
        Humme183 !!! You're wrong ! They BERKUTOVTS, first of all protect their homeland and the house where they live, from various scumbags!
  9. +19
    21 February 2014 08: 56
    I propose that Russia impose sanctions against Western politicians who took part in the events on the Maidan. They are also responsible for the blood spilling on the streets of Kiev.
    1. +5
      21 February 2014 09: 11
      But that would be good. Just now we can freeze them, except for gas supplies ..
      1. +4
        21 February 2014 09: 39
        Quote: Arbatov
        except gas supplies ..

        in addition to gas, there is a cloud of Western companies operating on the territory of the Russian Federation.
        1. avt
          +9
          21 February 2014 10: 43
          Quote: PSih2097
          in addition to gas, there is a cloud of Western companies operating on the territory of the Russian Federation.

          Look at how "the dollar and the euro" took off, it is presented as if they have wings and they are animated objects. And this is only from one proposal for deoffshorization - a frantic withdrawal of money from Russia began, the "Holy Investment" ran from one ghost of the possibility of putting things in order and "transparency" of the All-Regulatory Market is a direct analogy with the open, transparently conducting business company Yukos "only the scale is appropriate and the reaction of the Gaidarovs' Witnesses is more nervous, not in vain among banks - license dumpsters are closed.
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      3. 0
        21 February 2014 19: 13
        It is still necessary to shut off oil - then all the cars in Europe will stand up, giving rise to super-mass discontent among Europeans.
    2. Vitlek
      +1
      21 February 2014 09: 41
      Who to impose sanctions? against whom ???, yes, the governors of the cottages in Nice, accounts in offshore, in France hectares are buying up the forest, open your eyes.
      1. Irtysh
        +5
        21 February 2014 11: 11
        I hope that in Russia they will nevertheless bring to the realization the idea that key, as well as small and middle-level officials, will not have the right and opportunity to have real estate accounts abroad.

        It’s just not possible to watch when the head of state looks into the mouth of the emissaries of the EU and America, instead of putting things in order in the country.

        The president must clearly understand that Borroz is a jerk, and that he who has gone on the Maidan in a mask and helmet is a terrorist. And as soon as any of them appeared on the Maidan, he is dear to the bullpen until clarification.

        They divorced the fascists here and fuss ... Ugh!
        1. Current 72
          +1
          22 February 2014 00: 17
          I fully support you Irtysh !!! Only this had to be done at the very beginning of the Maidan. Then it could be done, this hour, almost impossible.
  10. +4
    21 February 2014 08: 57
    The Union collapsed! Everyone wanted freedom so much, but never learned how to use it. Everything was there. Russia built factories and plants, trained specialists in various branches, subsidized as best she could. external interventions. Ask back.
  11. +16
    21 February 2014 08: 59
    Taken on the eagle vkontakte page
    HELL ON THE MAIDAN!
    ... (Correspondence of "Berkut" among themselves. A glance from the other side.) ...:
    Here is the speech of one of the Berkut members, a colleague of my comrade. He visited the hell that took place on the Maidan. Read !!! In our media, everything is fabricated and full of lies. In Donetsk, the people do not know at all what is happening here. They show little things and make everything look like we are just killing civilians here and crippling demonstrators. And nobody is showing how we were blown up and burned. From the centuries and the golden eagle they made some kind of fascists in the media. all the press is bought. The riots began on the 23rd. Not a word on TV for 2 days. And then no one showed how German offensive marches played under the Cabinet of Ministers and how flags with swastikas and runes of the Third Reich fluttered. Nobody saw how the 18-year-old conscript soldier was scuttled on the bars on the gate in the arch at the entrance to one of the courtyards, did not show how the bus driver did not go over the demonstrators when he was blocked, and stopped the bus. the Nazis tore up this bus. there were a dozen golden eagles. The guys were stuffed with explosives under body armor, under their shins and knee pads, and for twenty minutes we could not break through to them. No one showed broken arms and legs, hundreds of punctured helmets and burned bodies in burn wards throughout the area. Constant firearms. And one guy on the Cabinet of Ministers on the 24th was standing next to me, then after another wave he slid to his knees. We thought the gas mask failed and he lost consciousness. But when he was pulled out of the line, his helmet and gas mask were removed, an awl was sticking out in his throat under his collar. We were locked in the cabinet for 3 days. There were only 900 of us and there were 35 thousand of them. On TV they did not show our buses without windows and much more. 10 km from Kiev there was a column with tiger cubs from the Crimea, blocked. This is our shift. And the bandits put a crowd in front of them and did not let them into the city. Not a single official takes responsibility to give the order to interrupt them there and give way to the column. All generals are either on vacation or on sick leave. There is no one to command. Everyone is afraid for their chair. At the bank, when the bandits tore up the conscripts, we stood 500 meters in the courtyard of the Treasury. We were not given the command "face" for an hour and a half. These guys were simply sacrificed there. And at first they were even forbidden to take shields. And the command to them was only to keep the position, and not to use any physical measures. Because here, as it turned out, we are not eliminating disorder, but we are ensuring public safety at a peaceful meeting. And on TV they just say that we are peaceful students here. Yes, there would be such a fucking thing in the United States, these oppositionists would have already been declared terrorists and from a bullet they were traitors at the top. And from the spetsnaz, everyone will make scapegoats at the end. This nightmare must be spread to the maximum. What I do ... We ask you to tell the truth ...
    DO IT! TELL PEOPLE!

    (c) http://vk.com/berkut_kiev
  12. +5
    21 February 2014 09: 08
    What will the zapadents live on? East fed the country. If the country splits, the East will receive all + Russian support. But is Europe and Americans ready to feed Bandera? It seems to me that no. As a result, we obtain another territory (it is difficult to call it a country) such as Albania or Kosovo.
    1. +2
      21 February 2014 11: 26
      And the zapadents will climb into Europe to be Christening. They don’t know how to work, just yell.
    2. hummel83
      +2
      21 February 2014 12: 13
      Quote: Siga
      What will the zapadents live on? East fed the country. If the country splits, the East will receive all + Russian support. But is Europe and Americans ready to feed Bandera? It seems to me that no. As a result, we obtain another territory (it is difficult to call it a country) such as Albania or Kosovo.

      a murmur from the Maidan-not against the partition. But Their leadership understands what is stated by you. Therefore, I repeat, THEIR PLAN: UNITED Ukraine as an anti-Russian project under the control of Bendera.
      The West put pressure on Yanuk (declared him guilty of bloodshed, said that YANUKOVICH SHOULD BE AWAYAnd) - and he slowly merged the country to Bendera. But when there was a split and the leadership of the southeast began to oppose Bendera independently, the military announced the upcoming introduction of the CTO regime. Immediately, Yanuk met with Western diplomats, and the parliament canceled the rushing CTO. - That is, they continued to merge Ukraine. And today in the morning I read an article:"US Ambassador: Yanukovych must lead Ukraine into the future". I’m afraid that this Judas would not begin to change the leadership of Kharkov and Crimea.
      And in the morning
  13. +4
    21 February 2014 09: 10
    "... The EU froze the accounts of" individual Ukrainian politicians. "I am ready to bet a silver dollar that Yanukovych is the most" separate "of all Ukrainian politicians ..." This is a bell for our pro3,14 gift - don't fucking keep money in someone else's savings bank. And another confirmation of the fact that this is no longer our "elite" - it is the "elite" of those who have sweaty eggs of this very "elite" in their hand in the form of a buried stolen dough.
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  15. +1
    21 February 2014 09: 29
    Oh my heart is just the beginning. The geyropeytsy brewed such porridge to nobody more than a bullet.
  16. +4
    21 February 2014 10: 02
    Let it not be so bloody, but the Soviet Union collapsed according to the same principle "the West will help us." It was another matter then that there was no need to push. We sold ourselves. And now the West is intolerant, Ukraine in one way or another "must be destroyed."
    And now the main question. Remembering how many centuries we lived together. Remembering our Soviet past, when the Ukrainians went to the virgin lands, they built the BAM. I wonder if the one who "stopped" the destruction of Syria is going to do anything? From the border of Ukraine you can get to the Kremlin from a slingshot.
  17. +4
    21 February 2014 10: 09
    This is war !!! If they reach the little friends, they will kill, and both strangers and their own.
  18. +6
    21 February 2014 10: 42
    Quote: Blad_21617
    ordinary people hope that Father Klitschko will come, and life will turn into raspberries ???


    In his recent video address, Mr. Klitschko traditionally laid the blame (!) On the events of the most recent days for the authorities.
    In fact, this means that he washed his hands. He does not want to take any responsibility.
    If someone captured or tried to capture the administration building, then Klitschko has nothing to do with it. If he did not ensure the peaceful nature of the action, then he was not guilty either.
    If one of the explosives or the participants in the actions was injured, then Klitschko has nothing to do with it, which makes it clear. Go - rally, citizen, but if something happens to you, then do not contact Klitschko. So it turns out.
    The authorities are to blame, but Mr. Klitschko is not.
    It is strange that no one notes the fact that Mr. Klitschko rejects any personal responsibility for what is happening.
  19. oscar
    +1
    21 February 2014 10: 45
    All this can be experienced, but the main thing is that there would be no cases of persecution of Russian people, then we will have to intervene and as a result of all the dogs will hang on us ...
    1. +7
      21 February 2014 11: 30
      And they will hang everything on us.
  20. +2
    21 February 2014 10: 45
    yeah, things have gone far, and are gaining momentum, it’s a pity for civilians .. Because western Ukraine, then it is western, they always had meager personalities, evict them to the West, otherwise they decided to rewrite history!
  21. ed65b
    0
    21 February 2014 11: 19
    Well, what will you do Kim ???
  22. +10
    21 February 2014 11: 25
    That's when you reduce everything to "fascists on the Maidan" you simplify the situation. Yes, there is a decent share of thugs, but what about the situation throughout Ukraine? Nobody is eager to support the existing government. Even Russia is keeping mum.
    I was born in western Ukraine (Khmelnitsky region) and was there the last time about 15 years ago. Today, for the sake of interest, I climbed onto the city’s website to see what's new-interesting. There is an online broadcast from the city center. So when I saw her - a little crazy. Over these 15 years, except perhaps billboards. That's all ... I looked at the fresh pictures - the same story. Nothing new, only junk is falling apart.
    So what do you think is the standard of living there? Who will support the government there? There, in fact, people survive on "grazing" as in the 90s, when the whole city left for the gardens in the summer.

    So the nationalists only served as a catalyst. And there will be no more order there, there will be sheer poverty - the economy is in the merla. This is well understood in Russia as well. Just remember the news on the military-industrial complex - we have slowly moved the production of helicopter engines, refused to cooperate at Ukrainian shipyards, and we are slowly abandoning the "Zenith". And the list goes on.
    In other industries, we have long been competitors with Ukraine. What can they produce in Ukraine that they cannot do with us? Yes, they make products of the same level as ours. So nakoy help us Ukrainian producers of milk, sweets, etc., if we have ours.

    The future of Ukraine is the work of guest workers in neighboring countries. And this is not because of the "Maidan". Nefig had power for 20 years to share, forgetting about the economy. sad
    1. Antiquetoy
      +3
      21 February 2014 12: 58
      Is there really one adequate comment? I am surprised, thanks! +1
  23. 0
    21 February 2014 11: 49
    Taking off his hat and bowing his head: "Sleep well, independent Ukraine. May the land rest in peace to you. We will never forget you."
  24. +5
    21 February 2014 11: 49
    Quote: Siga
    What will the zapadents live on? East fed the country. If the country splits, the East will receive all + Russian support. But is Europe and Americans ready to feed Bandera? It seems to me that no. As a result, we obtain another territory (it is difficult to call it a country) such as Albania or Kosovo.

    So this is the main task - to create an abscess in the underbelly of Russia ... Only Europe itself seems not very enthusiastic, only whom the Yankees at least once asked ...
    PS
    As one well-known person would say: "What country got fucked up ..."
  25. ed65b
    0
    21 February 2014 11: 58
    According to publications, the Marines "in full combat readiness" travel by train from Feodosia, notes Lenta.ru. It is allegedly planned to place them at the location of the 101st security brigade of the Ministry of Defense in Kiev.
    The process has started ??
  26. hummel83
    +2
    21 February 2014 11: 59
    Quote: Banshee
    And they will hang everything on us.

    Already hanged - in the Western media
  27. 0
    21 February 2014 12: 10
    Block the gas on x .... !!!!
  28. +1
    21 February 2014 12: 30
    At 14.00 Moscow time, we find out that Kiev has fallen. This is not surprising, the majority of the Rada are the opposition. The PR deputies run like rats.
    to the barracks, then we will hear that the new government will begin to expand its powers in other regions. Unfortunately, we have lost Ukraine.
  29. +8
    21 February 2014 12: 31
    This is off topic, I know, but .......
    At one time, Reagan (or Nixon, I don’t remember exactly, is not the point) said:
    "If at least one US citizen is threatened, the entire 7th American Fleet will stand behind him."
    Under this motto, the States worked in the oceans that they wanted, of course, where there was no Soviet Navy.

    The bottom line is this: the stump is clear, we do not need a civil war in Ukraine. Therefore, it's time to show a grin from the point of view of mobile strike teams - "touch the Russian - and you're dead." The time has come to openly declare the readiness to use forceful measures under the legend of protecting Russian-speaking citizens in Ukraine. Only then will the mercenaries scratch the turnips three times before removing the fuse. And if Belarus and Kazakhstan express their readiness to use force, then ... Eastern Ukraine and Crimea will receive at least powerful moral support.

    I know that dividing another state into parts is "not democratic" and "violation of human rights" and, in general, "aggression" and "interference in internal affairs", but I SHIT ABOUT "universal values" - the history of Kievan Rus is MY history and Kiev and Sevastopol is mine!
    1. denort
      0
      21 February 2014 20: 48
      If, say, a new Russian nuclear submarine of the Borei class surfaced off the coast of California, just take some air, barrage a little and then dive in again - maybe then the zeroand and Payette would have covered their mouths and dollar weapons caches ...
    2. 0
      22 February 2014 03: 07
      Shit on "universal human values" - the history of Kievan Rus is MY history and Kiev and Sevastopol are mine!

      Golden words +
  30. wanderer_032
    +2
    21 February 2014 12: 57
    Kharkov! Prepare tanks, armored personnel carriers and crews for battle!
    Factory to the fullest!
    All that you can put into operation, so you will fight back. And you have little time.
    It would not hurt to prepare other cities for the profile, Donbass miners can equip engineering positions, the regions located along the Black Sea coast while they have time can organize coastal defense and patrol the water area along the coast, minefields on airborne dangerous directions, Zaporizhzhya Cossacks and other areas to mobilize people , form units, draw up battle schedules and carry out preparatory activities for the defense of what is left, if you want to keep your homes intact, hurry up with a little time.
    All regional departments of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine must urgently organize the capture of elements involved in extremist propaganda, detain persons illegally in the controlled territory pending identification and verification at all bases, take measures to identify the "western" and "pro-Western" agents and suppress their activities on to the best of their strength and capabilities, to actively carry out a counterintelligence search.
    Heads of the region and so on. local authorities to organize communication and conduct the necessary measures to prepare their controlled territories at their levels, to reflect a possible intervention under the UN flag, etc. "good" deeds that the EU and the US will promise.
    1. 0
      22 February 2014 02: 09
      Quote: wanderer_032
      Kharkov! Prepare tanks, armored personnel carriers and crews for battle!
      Factory to the fullest!

      The original is taken from vmulder in Kharkov armored repair plant
  31. +1
    21 February 2014 13: 24
    No, not both. The EU representatives, who were in Kiev yesterday, represented by the foreign ministers of Poland, France and Germany, voiced their proposals for overcoming the crisis, or rather, their demands: to create a transitional government, to conduct constitutional reform, and early parliamentary and presidential elections. Here is the answer to the question of who started this and why. And so that Vitya Yanukovych thought well before giving an answer, the EU froze the accounts of “individual Ukrainian politicians”. I’m ready to bet a silver dollar that Yanukovych is the most “separate” of all Ukrainian politicians.


    All this foreign doggie. She smelled the blood. Oh, how they want to drink human blood!

    Hello to all forum users. I have not been with you for a good reason. Hello to everyone who remembers!
  32. +8
    21 February 2014 13: 52
    Here about the Maidan is very cynical, but true. Causes and consequences.
    http://lurkmore.to/Майдан
    1. 0
      21 February 2014 20: 02
      Lurkmorie advertises himself on Topwar? Well well. The main thing is that local gentlemen would not read about anonymous image boards.
  33. +7
    21 February 2014 14: 02
    what have you done yanyk, donkey stupid !!!!!! negative
  34. 0
    21 February 2014 14: 41
    THANKS TO THE AUTHOR FOR THE ARTICLE!
  35. +1
    21 February 2014 15: 47
    Latest News:
    President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych announced the holding of early presidential elections.

    In addition, the head of state called on the country's political forces to start forming a "government of national trust."

    The play "Independent Ukraine" is over. The curtain.
  36. 0
    21 February 2014 15: 53
    And here is the final chord:
    22 February in 12.00 in the premises of the Palace of Sports in Kharkov will host a congress of deputies of all levels from the south-eastern regions of Ukraine, the Crimea and Sevastopol. The initiator of the congress is the All-Ukrainian Social Union Ukrainian Front, which was formed in Kharkiv on February 1.
  37. zmey_gadukin
    +8
    21 February 2014 16: 04
    Klitschko - scum.
    That's all I wanted to say.
    1. 0
      21 February 2014 17: 51
      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      Klitschko - scum.
      That's all I wanted to say.

      You hurried, dear.
      You can expand the list of persons and pick up words. Many would have come ...
  38. +8
    21 February 2014 16: 40

    "No, we are doing the right thing to punish nationalists of all stripes and colors so severely. They are the best assistants of our enemies and the worst enemies of their own peoples. After all, the cherished dream of nationalists is to split the Soviet Union into separate 'national' states, and then it will become an easy prey for enemies The peoples inhabiting the Soviet Union, for the most part, will be physically exterminated, the rest, part of them, will turn into dumb and pitiful slaves of the conquerors. intelligence to incite among Ukrainians, who are the same Russians, hatred of Russians and seek the separation of Ukraine from the Soviet Union. All the same old song of ancient times from the period of the Roman Empire: divide and rule. Especially succeeded in inciting ethnic hatred and inciting some peoples other Englishmen. Thanks to such tactics, bribery wretched and corrupt leaders of different nations, capitalist island England - the first factory in the world, negligible in size, managed to seize vast territories, enslave and rob many peoples of the world, create the 'Great' British Empire, in which, as the British boastfully declare, never the sun does not go down. "

    Joseph Stalin, March 1941
    Collected Works, vol. 15
  39. Lesnik
    0
    21 February 2014 16: 58
    "What happened"
    The information war was lost by the authorities "dry"
    as a consequence "loss of control"

    "What will happen"
    The collapse of the financial system
    Paralysis of the entire social sector, followed by complete destruction as a result of "banditry", "parade of sovereignties" "civil war" as a result of the introduction of peacekeeping forces of Geyropa and Russia - read the occupation.

    "Than the heart to calm down"
    Partition of Ukraine "de facto" and "de jure"
    The increase in tension near the borders of Russia.
  40. Potin
    +2
    21 February 2014 17: 11
    Ukraine will rise and will be with Russia again, and the life of Ukrainians will become much better. But this will happen only when Ukraine will tear away from itself, Galichina, annexed in 1939.
  41. 0
    21 February 2014 17: 25
    Ukraine is on fire. The European Union and America are throwing "M" cocktails into Ukraine. The firefighters, led by Yanukovych, think that everything will go out by itself ... They are mistaken. Stew necessary!
    1. +2
      21 February 2014 18: 08
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Stew necessary!


      Everything seems to be. Late.
      How did we hope
      to Yanka (they knew that they were fucking hopeful)
      on Putin (they say that he has a trump card up his sleeve (HOW NOT TO BE!?) - that’s silent, but how should you !!! !!! - and everything will work out, but the thing accumulated in Ukraine for 22 years will resolve itself!
      to the end of the Olympics
      for the prudence of Ukrainians
      to the power and word of the miners
      on the Lord God
      for good luck ....

      And the West, as always, cynically, merging into the gums with the Natsiks, forced a state called Ukraine under itself.
      Essentially, the Yankees are gone.
      The parliament is pro-Western because of the collapse of the "Regions".
      East sell. And do not give up - (merge, I think, good is poorly organized, as a rule) they will not regret cartridges !!!
      It is not difficult to guess who will lead to power.
      1. stapler
        0
        23 February 2014 23: 57
        previously it was necessary to think and to pull young people in the southeast, only they earned money, snot chewed about our brothers throughout the territory.
  42. 0
    21 February 2014 18: 28
    I "respect" Viktor Fedorovich for his firm, principled and consistent position No. 2! Yesterday, as a bae LADY hinted that it would be necessary to put himself in a different way ... But no, he did not catch up with VF.
  43. Leshka
    0
    21 February 2014 19: 23
    at the moment there is not a big calm of explosives withdrawn from the city
  44. alexsey7777
    0
    21 February 2014 19: 30
    It remains to be seen how things will turn further ... Yanukovych may back down again.
    1. 0
      22 February 2014 03: 20
      Yanukovych can back down again.

      Not excluded. He can steer until December and where will he turn?
      E ... Ruslana yells that he should leave immediately, like wherever your eyes are. But even after resigning, he acts as president.
  45. +2
    21 February 2014 19: 54
    Fight Club "Oplot", "Night Wolves", associations of Afghans, Don Cossacks became the core of the People's Guard organized by the "Ukrainian Front".

    As you know, the famous German-American wrestler in gloves Klitschko-st. bravely challenged Yanukovych to a duel. Hero, yeah ... In response, the top fighter of "Oplot" Alexey Oleinik proposed his candidacy. Reply from the eldest of the sisters the eldest of the brothers did not wait. Which, however, is not surprising.)
  46. Pehmore
    +3
    21 February 2014 20: 48
    Do not write off Ukraine, there are smart and adequate people here, not those who rule the Maidan, these are paid (Every week at Merkel's reception, they themselves are zero). Believe me, no one needs war, but the scenario has been worked out in Yugoslavia, and it is being implemented. If Russia merges us, it alone cannot cope with the threat of disintegration into republics, then this will be understood later, as is now understood in the former Yugoslavia. Our strength is in unity, and not in insults and who is the eldest, who is the youngest. It is necessary to understand that we are a great Slavic people, rally, win.
    1. Lesnik
      -1
      21 February 2014 21: 03
      Quote: Pehmore
      Do not write off Ukraine, there are smart and adequate people here, not those who rule the Maidan, these are paid (Every week at Merkel's reception, they themselves are zero). Believe me, no one needs war, but the scenario has been worked out in Yugoslavia, and it is being implemented. If Russia merges us, it alone cannot cope with the threat of disintegration into republics, then this will be understood later, as is now understood in the former Yugoslavia. Our strength is in unity, and not in insults and who is the eldest, who is the youngest. It is necessary to understand that we are a great Slavic people, rally, win.


      Do you believe that yourself? Who shot? smart and adequate? And who is engaged in banditry now? These smart ones will be cut out in the first place. I don’t even want to engage in polemics.
  47. 0
    21 February 2014 20: 55
    Liberal-democratic anomaly in Ukraine is a syndrome of an old Galician disease, which psychiatrists should treat.
  48. +1
    21 February 2014 21: 10
    We have already passed ...
    1. brownie
      +3
      22 February 2014 03: 16
      And we passed it too!
  49. 0
    21 February 2014 21: 17
    Quote: Banshee
    And the zapadents will climb into Europe to be Christening. They don’t know how to work, just yell.

    They won’t be anything for that. Damn it ... Http: //news.yandex.ru/yandsearch? Cl4url = www.baltpp.ru% 2Fa% 2F2014% 2F02% 2F2
    1% 2FRada_prinjala_zakon_ob_amn% 2F & lr = 172 & lang = en The Council passed everything
  50. +1
    21 February 2014 21: 35
    "Point of no return" !!!

    We assume that this interpretation is quite appropriate in binding to a specific time of what is happening. I agree with the author on this, and who would argue. Yes, misfortune - pregnancy necessarily ends with permission. It may already be enough to produce Ukrainian independent miscarriages, incapable of life?
    I'm afraid not everyone will understand me. A baby is born in blood with its first expectorant sigh, as if it sounded wild. Ukraine is pregnant, but it should give birth without Europrivision. At least something should happen according to God's providence? And there, and completely different help will be required.
    Good luck and patience to all Russian relatives from Ukraine!
  51. 0
    21 February 2014 21: 38
    But Lukashenko will look at this whole picture and understand that in the worst case scenario, he will also be left alone with problems
  52. +2
    21 February 2014 21: 42
    It’s a pity, but any more or less sane person understands that Russia has received considerable pressure already at its side, and it began with Syria. Everything that happened before (Tunisia, Libya, Egypt) was just a rehearsal, a test for lice, so to speak.
    The original Russian territory is already burning here. Let's be realistic - Ukraine in its current territorial form can be compared to an artificially created Siamese twin. They took two organisms, combined them, added a third, and this Frankenstein began to live. But only due to encouraging injections. But the drug is suitable towards the end, and the one who injects it is already tired of pressing the syringe.
    And if without allegories, then:
    1. Yanukovych had to nip the “Maidan” in the bud. By any means.
    2.Sooner or later such events would happen.
    3. Bandera’s Galicia will not be able to coexist with the historically Russian Crimea and Tavria. It’s time for everyone to understand that sooner or later today’s Ukraine will have to be dismantled. God grant that this happens peacefully and smoothly, like with Czechoslovakia.
    PS Friends! If I offended someone with my words, don’t scold me. I respect everyone, I value all your opinions! Good luck everyone!
  53. Conepatus
    +3
    21 February 2014 21: 55
    Yanukovych passed everything he could. They’ve even come up with a law according to which Tymoshena’s wife will be released from prison. They showed on TV how students walk around the Ministry of Education, looking for the minister to tell him how to teach (he’s just a scribe, he doesn’t interfere in any way It seems that what is happening is not denationalization, but a mass debilitation of the population.
  54. 0
    21 February 2014 23: 38
    - In Ukraine, it seems that the Middle Eastern scenario is being finalized to suit our characteristics. Now OUR views for the future will become clearer! The actions of the Russian authorities in relation to Ukraine will show what awaits all of us if the “Maidanization” in Russian begins. It’s time to think about whether we have guarantors of order (whatever this order may be, anything is better than a bloody mess). But what happens? A bunch of hyperactive scoundrels are putting the whole country on their backs... the army listens to the advice of some black man, the police (in some places) goes over to the side of the troublemakers... state security is inactive (probably also, they were scared of the black man)... and everyone is generally waiting for the Leader’s orders ( which does not exist and is not expected), “Elite” (so that she can sit on a stake) pulls her by the mound... and the blood flows... It’s weird, gentlemen... it’s weird, sir!
  55. hummel83
    +1
    21 February 2014 23: 46
    Quote: infinite silence ...
    Of the two evils now, you need to choose the lesser ... You can surrender Yanyk. What's next??? There is no true leader in the country. He certainly exists - pathetically))) The surrender of Yanyk now is a huge step towards anarchy!
    Re-election? ... so both sides will be crying out for violations! And the country at this time will quietly slide into the abyss ... although ... The Civil War is the abyss.

    Well, 7 hours have passed since my post and, unfortunately, I was right. The Rada announces an amnesty, and the Prosecutor General and the Minister of Internal Affairs are dismissed for compensation for the seven dead and injured maydauns - and Yarosh has already stated that this is not enough - he demands their arrest and also the trial of the golden eagle. The next steps may be to remove the Crimean deputies and Dobchenko for separatism. And that’s it, all power will be with Bendera’s people and collaborators. - Hope to continue to hide behind Yanuq from anarchy, or that he will restore order.
  56. Obie
    0
    21 February 2014 23: 47
    My God, what kind of nonsense do many people write, and many believe it?? Europe is the enemy of the Russians, Yanukovych is a vile bandit creature! There is nothing to think about here - the entire top of the “authorities” and the opposition in Ukraine are in the oven. Another thing is, what's next? But then - a step into the unknown. Yanyk will be removed - who will come?? V.V. It is unlikely that it will be able to annex the east and south to Russia, and it will be difficult for us to get along with the Ukrainian-speaking pro-European population. In short, as always, we want the best, but it turns out through the anus. At least there is consistency in this. True, the main thing is that there is no war - we will survive the rest.
  57. cabakaaaa
    +1
    22 February 2014 00: 15
    gentlemen, calm down, no need for hysteria! just use logic, “OUR PARTNERS” act according to the same scenario everywhere, without even bothering to come up with something new!! Everything has already been read about how and what will happen! We all see everything here, but there are stupid people sitting at the top and don’t understand the situation, if so, then everything is lost!!! The same Putin said that this was a false start, which means he knew that this would happen. Do you think that you didn’t prepare for this? Prepared and ready, just waiting! If it’s not so, then Russia will soon be a big Fuck!
  58. 0
    22 February 2014 00: 28
    “What about Kyiv, Georgy Konstantinovich? - Kyiv will have to be left...” Sadness. The "Right Sector" won't calm down. They didn’t give a damn about agreements... However, there is a nuance - they seem to let Zhulya Vladimirovna out. Maybe she will be the main peacemaker? This is just the beginning.(((
    1. cabakaaaa
      0
      22 February 2014 00: 34
      1.Exposition.

      First of all, we inform the reader about where and at what time the action takes place, introduce the characters, briefly tell their story, and introduce the reader to them. There is no conflict here yet, as such, but the prerequisites for it can be identified.
      2. The beginning.

      Not to be confused with exposure! Actually, the beginning is the event from which everything begins. We can say this: if a conflict is the cause of a war, then the beginning is a reason for it, like a violation of a peace treaty.

      3. Development of action in an ascending manner.

      This is where the unlimited flight of fantasy begins! The author invents the most incredible plot moves, places the heroes in various difficult situations, describes their experiences about this and tells us how trials strengthen the characters’ characters, what lessons they learn for themselves.
  59. 0
    22 February 2014 00: 31
    Ukraine needs a Ukrainian GENERAL SWAN!!! soldier
  60. +1
    22 February 2014 00: 43
    may the corrupt donkey die and let your head hang on a stake
  61. nerzul
    -10
    22 February 2014 01: 07
    Thank Heaven that at least they were able to break the back of the power of the Soviet thieves. Ukraine is bankrupt, and Yanukovych’s children are billionaires (who earned billions from budget cuts). This one fact alone already deserves Yanukovych to be sent piecemeal to Muscovyland, the main stronghold of the victorious KGB-budget cut.
    When Russians lose, they love to label their opponents. The West of Ukraine and the people there have already been “branded” by the Russians as “fascists”.
    But the “fascist” Benderaites are better than the state of total chekism (going into the arms of Moscow expansion)
    Sooner or later, ErEthia will certainly swallow Ukraine and all its neighbors and will devour all its enemies and geopolitical rivals. Not because the Russians are some kind of superhumans, but simply because the THRONE OF SATAN (a very specific object of Christian Revelation) is located precisely on the red square of New Babylon (that is, Moscow).
    But for now, Chekism and pan-Russism will lose in Ukraine. And thank God that at least in Kyiv the batons of the police broke against the people’s resistance.
    1. +1
      22 February 2014 02: 40
      Hey buddy, I need a snack!
      1. -1
        22 February 2014 19: 44
        Humanity has not yet been able to produce so many snacks in its entire History, and it is unlikely that it will be able to. But the question arises - where did so much booze come from???
  62. 0
    22 February 2014 02: 57
    Snack or don't snack - this is a clinic, unfortunately...
  63. 0
    22 February 2014 03: 17
    1. DID YANUKOVYCH CAPITULATE?
    http://politobzor.net/show-13560-evromaydan-kak-prikrytie-geopoliticheskogo-sraz
    heniya.html
    ABOUT THE Puppeteers' INTENTION
    The real super-goal of the West is not at all just the resignation of Yanukovych and a reset and re-election of the Ukrainian government. All the demands publicly voiced by the West are petty and are a bluff.
    The real task is to disrupt the beginning of the restoration of real industrial cooperation between Russia and Ukraine. It was because of this that Yanukovych received the Maidan.

    2. The media reported the resignation of three Yanukovych advisers
    http://politobzor.net/show-13561-smi-soobschili-ob-uhode-v-otstavku-treh-sovetni
    kov-yanukovicha.html

    3. I recommend that you read the material about the main people of the crisis from the point of view of the project "QSec: Security Issues"
    Personalities.
    Brief description of the main actors in the situation in Ukraine using reflected signal technology.
    http://www.qsec.ru/public/iats-nast-rossii-o-situatsii-na-ukraine

    4. And here’s how the specialists of this resource define themselves:
    Mission
    The purpose of creating and developing the portal is to provide the target audience with objective information for making management and practical decisions in the field of ensuring the security of an extremely wide range of objects. These objects can be either a specific individual or a modern state, as a complex and contradictory system of social relations.
    The "QSec" portal is organized as an interactive analytical tool for the formation and promotion of both individual and corporate solutions in the field of professional security.
    http://www.qsec.ru/content/o-proekte-qsec-voprosy-bezopasnosti
  64. 0
    22 February 2014 03: 37
    And here's another topic:
    The Ukrainian Defense Minister refused to speak with his American counterpart. USA: this is unprecedented

    U.S. Department of Defense spokesman Rear Admiral John Kirby told reporters that Secretary Chuck Hagel tried to contact the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense to discuss the violence in Kyiv, but, according to the spokesman, they rejected the request. According to him, this refusal is unprecedented.

    http://zakon.mirtesen.ru/blog/43586672540/Ukrainskiy-ministr-oboronyi-otkazalsya
    -govorit-s-amerikanskim-ko?utm_campaign=transit&utm_source=main&utm_medium=page_
    0 & pad = 1
    1. 0
      22 February 2014 04: 11
      If only they had brought in Chuck Norris, you scum
  65. +3
    22 February 2014 03: 40
    I expected approximately this outcome of events; Janek is a political hypothetist. Constant amnesties for bandits are a clear result. We must pay tribute to the organization of the western regions - they are a serious and tough opponent, they will go to the end, until they seize power. Janek will most likely try to take refuge in Russia or Belarus....who will accept him, the big question!? The hunt for Berkut and the rest of the security forces will begin soon. Armed provocations in Crimea in Sevastopol in the coming days. In the end, the right-wing marginals and the Nazis with Bandera will take power in Ukraine, the eastern and southern parts will submit to any authority in Kyiv... this has happened before. The problem is that Russia will receive far from the most friendly territorial entity at its side (sorry, I cannot call Ukraine a state, like many other former Soviet republics). Western media are in full swing celebrating the victory over Putin! They promise Ukraine prosperity in the family of European nations! You should listen to immigrant radio in New York, that’s where Vlasov-Bandera-Goebels’s underdogs found shelter!
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  67. 0
    22 February 2014 04: 19
    http://politobzor.net/show-13560-evromaydan-kak-prikrytie-geopoliticheskogo-sraz
    heniya.html

    .......But the terrorist underground will be purged mercilessly. The prerequisites for this are visible in the SBU’s initiation of an anti-terrorist operation nationwide and the introduction of elements of a state of emergency. Russia will probably convene the UN Security Council and present evidence of the West’s guilt.

    The price of the issue is people's lives, the desire to avoid thousands of refugees, a humanitarian catastrophe and lies at the basis of the Russian-Ukrainian position. The West is given the opportunity to get out of the situation with the preservation of the face, while it is being given. Whether the West and the United States will personally take the hand extended from Russia - we will learn from the actions of the Ukrainian authorities on the events of the next hours and days in Ukraine. While the US threatens and bluffs with psychic attacks on the Ukrainian authorities, blood is shed. But if the United States goes to lawlessness - there will be more. But there will be an answer. Both States and Europe already seem to be becoming aware of this. Hurry up to giraffes.
  68. 0
    22 February 2014 04: 28
    Well okay. Now the people will seize "freedom" to the fullest. He will understand that freedom is not only flags and songs, but also the lack of water in the tap (condolences to the residents of the upper floors), electricity in the outlet, cellular communications and other goodies. Oh, and move along the streets only in dashes and try to forget the Russian language. I wonder if the south of Ukraine will be able to accept all the refugees?
  69. +1
    22 February 2014 04: 33
    Bandars should not be allowed to power - Ukraine will wash itself with blood, this is my Motherland, and no matter what anyone says that Ukrainians are only internet literate, I answer: someone needs to work and feed their families, but on the Maidan they don’t understand that there will be a collapse economy, default and other delights... And if Bander comes and tells me how I should live, that’s the end for him, he won’t see his Carpathians.
  70. 0
    22 February 2014 04: 40
    POSTSCRIPTUM: THIS IS SUCCESS
    http://rossiyanavsegda.ru/read/1767/
    Yanukovych is not afraid of early elections; he was ready for them before.
    This is success. Well done, Viktor Fedorovich and Vladimir Vladimirovich.
  71. 0
    22 February 2014 13: 14
    Russia was expecting terrorist attacks in the south of Russia and received one huge explosion in Ukraine
  72. +2
    22 February 2014 19: 17
    I see the following:

    1) No matter how they treat Yanukovych, he is a legally elected president, i.e. legitimate

    2) The Parliament of Ukraine can at least return to the “Russian Truth” of Yaroslav the Wise.
    A return to the 2004 constitution by a decision of the Ukrainian parliament is not legitimate.

    3) The most interesting thing will begin when the Gay European bastard who came to power runs out of money.

    The Galician Banderaites need to be fed well, often and tasty. Something tells me that money will not come from the East and Crimea in the form of taxes. They will remain in local budgets.

    Until "order is restored in Kyiv."

    But it will not be restored. Tymoshenko was released.

    Let's wait ...
    1. +1
      22 February 2014 21: 33
      that's right, money goes to the miners.
  73. Gromila555
    +2
    22 February 2014 21: 00
    There is no other way out other than COMPLETE separation. From the latest: Maidan “workers” are starting to return. After a certain period of time, health begins to deteriorate; examination by a doctor shows DRUG WITHDRAWAL. First-hand information - my sister’s friend arrived from the Maidan a week ago, the day before yesterday we learned about the results of the examination.
  74. rocketman
    0
    23 February 2014 12: 24
    It's been 12 hours since the last post.
    Dorbkin and Kernes (Dopa and Gepa) fled the country. Yanuca was not released by ordinary border guards in Donetsk. Dnepropetrovsk surrendered - they broke Lenin and declared themselves the territory of the Maidan. In Dobkin's office there is people's self-defense. They released Yulia - she announced that she would participate in the elections on May 25 and would become the new president (like that, in advance and categorically). Yaitsenyuk walks around sad, Klitschka and Tyagnibyk are neither heard nor seen. Everything is ruled by Yulia and her pastor (Turchinov), a direct agent of the State Department. A rally is going on in Donetsk, gathering everyone via social networks and mobile phones. (My mother from Donetsk told me this).
    Here is a parsley.
    This is what I wrote about, dear forum users, that there were a lot of articles here - Putin is great, he won in Syria, etc., the West is retreating in Ukraine, everything is fine. And the West was preparing a retaliatory strike - and won, no matter how hard it hurts us. So, dear Russians, do not relax - the enemy is already at your gates. And whoever said that, they say, figure it out yourself - we’ve already figured it out, that’s enough. I hope that at least after this Russia will understand that you can’t hold back Ukraine with money alone - you need to change your minds!
    1. stapler
      0
      24 February 2014 00: 15
      - so the Olympics... what kind of Crimea, south, east, medal, she - apparently, invisibly,
      Obama was already jealous, or maybe there will be more, wait a minute. weapons will be taken out of Syria and it will begin there... all the victories of the explosives at once..., in Donetsk - the governor, that warrior, is probably already packing his suitcases...
  75. +1
    26 February 2014 21: 51
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