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A letter from bloody Kiev

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Your father is the devil; and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning and did not stand in the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own, for he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8: 44


Much time has passed since I wrote The Letter from the Occupied Kiev, and now this is not occupied but flaming Kiev.

Yesterday and today, what happened, in general, all this was originally. The shooting started. It's terrible, it scares, I don't want to believe in it. I understand that there is no lack of information today - and TV, and the Internet, and radio, everything is in full view. However, I want to describe the situation in my own words, just as an ordinary Kyivite sees it today.

So what do we have? Work in the capital is paralyzed. Despite the terrible events, many offices are working, people are forced to go to the city center for work. However, many still canceled work, people sit at home. Yesterday the subway did not work all day. Today did not work until five in the evening. It's getting scary. If all these two months, the events on Independence seemed to take place in a kind of parallel reality — well, they stand and stand, sing songs, “pray” for something, and life in the city goes on as usual — then today the feeling of danger has already appeared all over Kiev. I went to work for a while, then returned home, and it was not for myself, because it was not clear what to expect. Many people had thoughts about leaving the city. I think many have already done it. Today, people began to buy food, lined up for fuel, because there was information that gas stations in the city will be closed. The dollar crawled up. People cash money from cards. Add to this about a hundred dead (only today). And what do we have? The beginning of the war. Although I really hope that I am mistaken ...

Here, in Kiev, there are a lot of people who sincerely believe that on the Maidan, people are fighting for their bright future, fighting with the criminal gangster regime. Let's not talk about the level of their intellectual development. All people can not be smart. However, the fact is a fact - those are abundant. But they are not the majority. Although I admit that about half. But what really happens?

Let's look at the chronicle.

After being re-elected as President of Russia, Putin launches a large-scale integration project in the territory of the former USSR. The Ukrainian authorities, as always, are in a multi-vector posture, but in general the project is gaining momentum. Some Western politicians express concern, and some people explicitly state that they "will not allow" reintegration in the post-Soviet space. The work of the Eastern Partnership of the EU is being intensified, association agreements for Ukraine, Moldova, and others are hastily prepared and paraded. Yanukovych associates raise the blue-star flag, they brainwash the public with all the advantages of the European choice for a year (unfortunate people - they can't think for themselves! ). Then suddenly, when it becomes clear that with its effective management, the company of “managers-professionals” led the country into a completely hopeless ass, plus for some other reason, Yanukovych lays a cunning trick and rolls a fat bolt to the euro-partners. Everyone is shocked - both figures from the EU and the local population itself, which is not able to understand why such a beautiful European vector has suddenly become unprofitable and controversial. And now - about a miracle! - In Ukraine, the national revolution begins immediately! In a nutshell, its message can be described as follows: “Ukraine will be under the EU, even if it will be necessary to kill half the country for this!” And it would seem - what does Europe have to do with it? Of course, these are conscious Ukrainian citizens, who from their very birth, during the times of the Union, felt like a “European nation”, decided that everything could not be tolerated any longer! Europe we, in the end, or Russia unwashed ?! And so they came to the Maidan, expressed a peaceful protest. Then somehow they immediately proceeded to beating the police with chains and burning them with various cocktails. This, of course, is also the usual lads from the village ... This, of course, is ridiculous, but you know - that’s what many people think ...

In fact, several thousand well-trained terrorist fighters from western regions are operating on the streets of Kiev. They are the backbone, the driving force and the instigators of the rebellion. An impressive mass of “rams” joined them, who were suddenly not allowed to go to the EU for barbecues, where they were actively invited. It was this mass that played a key role. If it were not for them, then the militants themselves would not have done such a battle and would be quickly swept away. But alas. We do not have a president, but a misunderstanding. His team so selflessly robbed everyone and all of the past few years, so admirably cleaned ministries and departments from qualified personnel, replacing them with snotty juvenile dudes (boasting at the same time that we have the youngest ministers in Europe), so ineptly squandered pennies that naturally deserved national contempt, hatred and disgust. Considering that our people in the mass do not know how to think with their heads, the offended Europeans with their overseas friends had no difficulty in raising the masses to fight the “gang”. Played like a note. Even three opposition clowns did not prevent it - otherwise they could not be named. A gorilla boxer with a broken head, which had never been able to think before. Crazy extremist Bandera with ram eyes. A ridiculous Jew in embroidery, posing as a European intellectual, although on his face is written in large letters: "Berdichev". Even this trio, having become the head of the popular anger, failed to scare away the citizens who were outraged by the gang of their comedic inconsistency. They did not like and dislike the three of them, but they hate Yanukovych more. The logic is simple, as it should be for ordinary people: let's throw off the gang of Yanukovych, and then we'll see what to do. Yakshatsya with the Poles, pray with the priests and climb for the Jews on the barricades, believing that we are fighting for "our Ukraine" ...

And here it is, the moment of truth. Very many of the "sheep" suddenly began to realize that with such a revolution tomorrow they might not find something to eat, they would have nowhere to work, and in general - God forbid, to stay alive. Because it came to the fact that a revolutionary rink rushing forward without disassembling. Today, many, most citizens sympathizing with the revolution, cowardly hid in their homes. The maximum that they are capable of is to resent with the round eyes the actions of criminal power, nervously swallowing the stored whiskey in front of the tablet screen. The insight will progress as violence escalates, but this will change nothing. “Rams” have done their job, the fire is inflated, now it's up to the pros.

A pro this morning just took and started shooting from combat weapons. Although, according to the employees of the “Berkut”, already yesterday there were victims of gunshot wounds among law enforcement officers. But today the terrorists are not even hiding. Posing with shotguns and the Kalashnikovs. The police finally gave up their weapons, and she began to shoot back. Just shoot, because until now, law enforcement agencies are exclusively defensive, not offensive. They simply guard government buildings from the regular raids of peaceful demonstrators. And now they shoot from all sides. Everyone shouts about the snipers who are shooting people. Who shoots? In whom? What for? All these questions are no longer important. And the answers to them, we will never know. But this is not necessary. The main thing is that the process has begun, the country is on fire. And now we have two options: either we bring to power the Western protege (whoever he is) and immediately sign with the EU the Act on the recognition of colonial dependence, or the country will flare up in full swing and wash off the blood for real.

Why today even very seemingly stupid, educated people do not see the striking similarity of our situation with the Syrian or Egyptian - a question worthy of a separate study by psychologists. The same players, the same "peaceful demonstrators", the same rhetoric from the same mouth. All is one to one, but for some reason no one notices this, and everyone continues to talk about the “get out gang” and the national revolution.

And ideologues and leaders do not waste time in vain. It turns out that the problem is not limited to Yanukovych and his gang, and is not even directly related to the association agreement. It turns out that Russia and Russia are to blame for everything! It turns out that the top of what we didn’t finish in the 1991 year (these are the words of Tyagnibok) is happening now! We, it turns out, finally got a chance to finally, irrevocably and boldly tell the dark slave herd of Muscovites that we are not them, but something completely different! What we are Europeans! And that we are not on the way with the people who suffer bullying the bloody Kremlin clique. Today they are trumpeting about the fact that it is Putin who, like no other, is interested in the split of Ukraine. Although it may be beneficial to him, it is not specified. Again, goblin ears of Russian special forces are sticking out of all the cracks, again the all-seeing eye of Sauron Putin pierces space, time and flesh, directing the criminal hand of the gangster regime.

Honestly, it’s very, very difficult to find words to describe all the madness and idiocy that can now be heard from the lips of our Ukrainian oppositionists. But in general, the main message, the main essence of their speeches and the focus of meanings can be expressed in one short word - a lie. They lie all the time. The very essence of their activity is deceitful to the bone. They appear to be such “martyrs for the faith”, they besieged the whole Maidan with icons, constantly appeal to the divine truth, hold prayers and revere the burial of their heroes. However, few people understand that in fact there is not a single priest on Independence Square! There is anyone there - Uniates, sectarians, schismatics, at best, Catholics, but by no means Orthodox clerics. They call the law-enforcement forces a straightforward text from the Maidan scene almost a demonic offspring, predict terrible torments in hell and make the sign of the cross on themselves. But only a truly believing Orthodox Christian knows that Satan himself appears under the guise of an angel of light, and that the devil is the ape of God. In fact, any Christian understands that there can be no divine blessing not only on their revolution, but also on any other revolution. The Lord teaches humility and obedience to any (!!!) authorities, and He himself voluntarily went to death on the cross at the hands of aggressive Roman power. A normal Christian understands that there can be nothing in common between Christ and Europe that has long been denied him. Every Christian soul not only understands, she sees and feels that a devil's sabbath, mass madness and satanic triumph occur on Independence Square. And all this is a lie that their leaders belch, exhausting the soul indescribably.

What's next? The country practically does not exist anymore. In the western regions, the security forces either hand over their weapons to the protesters, or go over to their side. The Ivano-Frankivsk regional council officially announced today that it does not recognize Yanukovych as a legitimate president and is ready to obey the so-called. Narodnaya Rada. On the highways near Kiev there are already blocks and checkpoints made of militants. They move freely around the country and organize armed pogroms of local authorities, police, security services, even the army. If tomorrow Yanukovych suddenly somehow decides to restore order in Kiev with a firm hand, then he will most likely do it. But this will actually mean pulling the trigger and the beginning of an all-out confrontation throughout the country, i.e. full-scale civil war. Western regions will finally refuse to obey Kiev, and it will be impossible to pacify them, since there, the majority of the population will support such a decision, including the security forces and military units stationed there. Moreover, they can also go on the offensive. Moreover, they are already talking about it now. Like, now we are going to Kiev by trains and cars, and tomorrow, if this does not help, we will go to tanks and armored personnel carriers. The question may arise in such a way that, not only to pacify western Ukraine, but to defend against it!

So what to do? Allow further rampage to Western terrorists on the streets of Kiev? Only one way out - to give them power. Whether it is early elections, re-elections, by-elections, yes there - and no elections are necessary. What for? Yanukovych has already won the election, so what? They took the weapon, arrived to Kiev and dumped it. Take and transfer the presidential mace Yatsenyuk. Anyway, it is clear that in the case of elections, the pro-Western candidate is likely to win. And even if he does not win, the opposition does not recognize the victory of a non-Western candidate, and all this will start anew until the Western protege receives power. So you want peace - give Kiev. That at least can stop the bloodshed. Another question is where it will lead later ... But this is another история. And for today the fact is one - the point of no return is passed. It seems impossible to protect southern Russia from rabid Latins. But it was possible ...

Shl. And only now it was reported that the Verkhovna Rada adopted a decree according to which all security units must return to their places of deployment, they are prohibited from using weapons, and are not allowed to block roads. Those. the police must lay down their arms in front of the terrorists, leave the streets and leave Kiev to the armed gang of militants. Brilliant ...
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  1. raf
    raf 21 February 2014 07: 53
    +36
    It seems the war has all the same begun, but it's a pity it's a pity!
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 21 February 2014 08: 03
      +23
      Quote: raf
      There is only one way out - to surrender to them power.


      So if you want peace, rent Kiev. This can at least stop the bloodshed. Another question, what will this lead to subsequently ...

      What is so immediately hands up - it is worth considering all the options.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 08: 16
        +28
        Quote: SHILO
        It is worth considering all the options.

        Another option is a full-scale civil warrior and the division of Ukraine along the Dnieper.
        1. svp67
          svp67 21 February 2014 08: 19
          +22
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Another option is a full-scale civil warrior and the division of Ukraine along the Dnieper.
          - This is the most extreme option, on the "right side" there is also a lot of people who do not want to live under "benders" and this should be used ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 08: 20
            +17
            Quote: svp67
            , on the "right side" there are also a lot of people who do not want to live under "benders"

            They are not organized and can not be heard, except that in the internet. Bandera stand by the wall for each other and therefore win, although they are fewer.
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 21 February 2014 08: 52
              +38
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Bandera wall for each other and therefore win, although they are fewer.

              There are many traitors !!!
              Pardoned Lutsenko gathers armed people for a trip to Kiev
              Ex-Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko in Lviv gathers dozens of former and current law enforcement officers with weapons to protect the Maidan in the center of Kiev. "This is a war, but war is like a war. Two days ago, a small amount of weapons appeared on the Maidan. And only because of this Berkut stopped 50 meters from the stage. They stopped because we have weapons. Only because a firearm appeared, they stopped and obscenely sent their superiors, who ordered to attack, "Lutsenko said during a speech from the Euromaidan stage in Lviv, the press service of the Third Republic reports. Together with the ex-minister, the first deputy chairman of the regional council, the former head of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Lviv region and the head of the Berkut of the Lviv region stood on the stage. The latter said that the Lviv Berkut unanimously decided to return from Kiev to Lvov. And he assured that his fighters “did not and will not carry out criminal orders.” In his speech, Lutsenko stressed that he urged people to go to Kiev with weapons not to attack someone, but only to defend the Maidan.
              Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139294.html
              XXXX
              Well, who would personally shoot !!!! am
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 09: 19
                +13
                Quote: Egoza
                Pardoned Lutsenko gathers armed people for a trip to Kiev

                They haven’t been given help on the head once; now I think they will be kicked out to him soon, like nobody approaches the victim of the Yanukovych’s regime.
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 21 February 2014 09: 42
                  +6
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Now I think he will be kicked out soon, like nobody approaches the victim of the Yanukovych regime.

                  They had already been kicked out long ago, if they had been with him then he wouldn’t have been collecting scum for murders, violence, and looting.
              2. domokl
                domokl 21 February 2014 09: 20
                +18
                Quote: Egoza
                Well, who would personally shoot !!!!

                Elena, it’s the prerogative of the executioners to shoot, and the soldiers are honestly fighting ... Put yourself in the place of this commander. And what will happen? He, a native of the western regions, his family professes exactly the same views as the maydaunas, his subordinates are in exactly that the same situation. They carried out the order, but ... Standing like rams under Molotov’s bullets and cocktails for almost three months, and to see the face of your neighbor on the barricade ... Agree it is morally very difficult. But there turned out to be no commanders in Ukraine .. .There are some men with shoulder straps of colonels and generals, but there are no commanders ... By the way, unlike maydaunov ... There you can really see the command decisions and the ability to manage subordinates.
                1. Candy wrapper
                  Candy wrapper 21 February 2014 10: 27
                  -24%
                  Everything is one to one, but for some reason no one notices this, and everyone continues to taldychit the mantra about the Geta Gang and the national revolution.

                  Maybe because they do not read articles on Russian resources? laughing
                  If you believe these articles, then in the world except the USA and the Russian Federation there is almost no one else. You do not admit that the same UNA-UNSO was not born yesterday? Their ideology and desire for independence are not the brainchild of the United States, they only used the absurdities of Yanukovych’s policies, the clash of the EU / USA and the Russian Federation in the light of integration trends in the territory of the former USSR. In the summer, when the Russian Federation cut off trade with Ukraine on the border, it was clear that everything would end with the second Maidan and the Bandera took advantage of this: they trained people and at the right time / right place struck at the stupid authorities. Bottom line: their regions gained independence from Kiev. What kind of war are we talking about if the rest of the regions don’t follow Bandera?
                  1. seller trucks
                    seller trucks 21 February 2014 10: 52
                    +28
                    Quote: Fantik
                    What kind of war are we talking about if the rest of the regions don’t follow Bandera?


                    legally, Ukraine is a unified state, after the establishment of their "lord" in the disgraced regions, Bandera will begin a campaign to the South-East, under the pretext of "food land", how do you like this alignment
                    1. Astrey
                      Astrey 21 February 2014 14: 10
                      +8
                      Quote: seller trucks
                      after the establishment of their "lord" in the disgraced regions, Bandera will begin a campaign to the South-East, under the pretext of "food land"


                      Kiev is not yet full of "heroic glory", but tendencies are already visible to turn the metropolis into a kind of Lviv - into a small town, which by the will of history turned out to be a regional center. Smoke during the day and glow at night evoke vague associations ...

                      It is amazing how readily, with rapture, all kinds of intimigens succumb to panic and anti-government sentiments.
                      1. seller trucks
                        seller trucks 21 February 2014 14: 23
                        +4
                        Quote: Astrey
                        It is amazing how readily, with rapture, all kinds of intimigens succumb to panic and anti-government sentiments.


                        well, with this bastard everything is clear, to the fools, under any power there is a place, especially with their own, svidomye pamphlets to the glory of Nenkiya ave.
                      2. Prutkov
                        Prutkov 21 February 2014 16: 36
                        +8
                        Kiev itself "called" Banderaism to itself. Twice as mayor of the city to choose the drug addict Chernovetsky ...
                      3. cdrt
                        cdrt 22 February 2014 02: 58
                        +1
                        Quote: Astrey
                        It is amazing how readily, with rapture, all kinds of intimigens succumb to panic and anti-government sentiments.


                        Well, as I understand it, Yanyk with his family is clearly not a cake.
                        Although like the nation, the Ukrainians seem to have no instinct for national self-preservation at all
                    2. Candy wrapper
                      Candy wrapper 21 February 2014 14: 33
                      +1
                      legally, Ukraine is a unified state, after the establishment of their "lord" in the disgraced regions, Bandera will begin a campaign to the South-East, under the pretext of "food land", how do you like this alignment

                      Minority versus majority? It is doubtful.
                      1. seller trucks
                        seller trucks 21 February 2014 15: 28
                        0
                        Quote: Fantik
                        Minority versus majority? It is doubtful.


                        right, well done, hang them in the camps, the title rule. Incidentally, otkel infa, about the majority, grannies at the station?
                      2. Ulus5
                        Ulus5 21 February 2014 20: 50
                        +2
                        Quote: Fantik
                        legally, Ukraine is a unified state, after the establishment of their "lord" in the disgraced regions, Bandera will begin a campaign to the South-East, under the pretext of "food land", how do you like this alignment
                        Minority versus majority? It is doubtful.

                        Do you think the southeast is stronger?
                        Then why do not they fight back Bendera?
                        Why not show who is the power and truth?
                      3. aviator_IAS
                        aviator_IAS 26 February 2014 23: 29
                        0
                        Quote: Fantik
                        Minority versus majority? It is doubtful.

                        The revolution is always made by the minority. An ideological, radical, aggressive minority. Even with a real confrontation, a zombie Maidan is worth a dozen ordinary (not frostbitten) citizens. And those who are against the Maidan "in dushe" generally can not be taken into account. They, with their silent protest, will suddenly wake up in another state in the morning. And if you also take into account foreign aid, there are no options for the majority. This is not an axiom, but a theorem proven by many revolutions.
                    3. v53993
                      v53993 21 February 2014 22: 32
                      +1
                      legally Ukraine is a single state

                      Can you justify utter stupidity? With such a title, declare such ignorance of history! I’m ashamed of you Fantik, alas.
                  2. S_mirnov
                    S_mirnov 21 February 2014 10: 55
                    +5
                    Quote: Fantik
                    Maybe because they do not read articles on Russian resources? laughing

                    To the Point!
                    And how do you like the news:
                    "64 special flights for VIPs have been registered in Kiev's Zhuliany airport. ITAR-TASS reported this on the evening of February 20. As the airport dispatcher told the agency, more than 50 flights have already been carried out. Dispatchers refused to disclose the names of high-ranking passengers. On February 20, a number of Ukrainian media outlets reported on the flight from Kiev of several deputies of the Verkhovna Rada. "
                    1. Danafxnumx
                      Danafxnumx 21 February 2014 12: 32
                      +7
                      Quote: S_mirnov
                      On February 20, a number of Ukrainian media outlets reported on the flight from Kiev of several members of the Verkhovna Rada. "

                      yes who would doubt ...
                      I'm generally surprised that Yanuk is still not visiting Lukoshenko ...
                      1. demel2
                        demel2 21 February 2014 14: 18
                        +12
                        Do you think this yanyk is needed for Lukashenko?
                      2. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 21 February 2014 14: 36
                        +2
                        Quote: demel2
                        Do you think this yanyk is needed for Lukashenko?

                        I think not needed ...
                        but somewhere it is necessary to put it, but ours most likely will not accept ...
                      3. Simon
                        Simon 21 February 2014 22: 12
                        +2
                        Why do we need it in Russia, let it restore order in Ukraine. In principle, no one needs him, not even his people. Yanek is a weak, weak-willed, cowardly person who cannot or is afraid to make a worthwhile decision and take responsibility for himself, to eliminate Bandera’s kov. How many people will die because of its delay and not decisiveness. Its delay can inevitably lead to the disappearance of Ukraine as a state.
                2. smersh70
                  smersh70 21 February 2014 12: 57
                  -10%
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  On February 20, a number of Ukrainian media outlets reported on the flight from Kiev of several members of the Verkhovna Rada. "

                  they say and the speaker fled ... Here you have the power who you are protecting here. They are running like rats from a sinking ship.
                  1. S_mirnov
                    S_mirnov 21 February 2014 13: 51
                    +17
                    Quote: smersh70
                    Here you have the power, who are you protecting here.

                    And we do not protect it, it is painful to protect thieves parasitic on the Russian people.
                    I think if anything, Russian officials and deputies will give odds to all rats of the world in speed of leaving the country!
                  2. delfinN
                    delfinN 21 February 2014 14: 41
                    +3
                    The fact that Ukraine will not exist within these borders is no longer in dispute. He does not want the southeast to already contain Western banderlogs at his own expense. Now, most likely there is a battle for Kiev. He is for the Little Russians, like Kosovo for the Serbs.
                3. inkass_98
                  inkass_98 21 February 2014 15: 26
                  +2
                  Here they protect the state, not those people who currently represent it (or do not represent, merged).
                  Deserters and cowards fleeing, afraid to take responsibility at a decisive moment.
                4. Ulus5
                  Ulus5 21 February 2014 20: 56
                  +4
                  Quote: smersh70
                  Here you have the power, who are you protecting here.

                  And what the hell is the difference between the thieves of Yanukovych and the gang of Bendera. I think the second will be worse. It is a pity they were not destroyed after the war.
                5. APASUS
                  APASUS 21 February 2014 21: 25
                  +5
                  And what the hell is the difference between the thieves of Yanukovych and the gang of Bendera. I think the second will be worse. It is a pity they were not destroyed after the war.


                  When Banderlog after coming to power will start hanging everyone who did not answer "Glory to the Heroes", you will understand all the stupidity of your question !!!
                6. 31231
                  31231 21 February 2014 22: 27
                  +3
                  When Banderlog after coming to power will start hanging everyone who did not answer "Glory to the Heroes", you will understand all the stupidity of your question !!!


                  And in their Svidomo media to write "Tse mos.kaly have subsided, our hand will not rise. We vet pregnant children."
          2. Bogranz
            Bogranz 21 February 2014 22: 38
            +2
            The news is certainly sensational, but the truth is that at the present they were full of phones, tablets and other electronics with built-in cameras - so far there have not been any photos loading their safes with a dough for at least one of 64 special flights. Or did I miss?
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        3. Cappit
          Cappit 21 February 2014 11: 36
          +21
          There is no need to give all the laurels to Yanukovych. The "honor" of recreating the UNA belongs to Yushchenko, who made Bandera a national hero. Tell who has forgotten whose policy Yushchenko pursued?
          1. Vladimir 70
            Vladimir 70 21 February 2014 11: 58
            +15
            There is no need to give all the laurels to Yanukovych. The "honor" of recreating the UNA belongs to Yushchenko, who made Bandera a national hero. Tell who has forgotten whose policy Yushchenko pursued?
            You don’t have to blame everything on Yushch — he’s an agent of the State Department. But if Lousy had begun to fulfill his guarantor duties and his campaign promises since 2010, none of this would have happened. After the rule of the orange gang - it was not difficult. So the main fault lies with Lousy.
            1. 31231
              31231 21 February 2014 19: 32
              +6
              So the main fault lies with Lousy.

              Only for this I put a minus. Make Yush less evil.
              That is, as in group intercourse ?! Who is the last, that and dad?
              And the fact that in fact Yushchenko had the audacity to "take his virginity first" is not so important. Dooo! With people like you, Ukraine zapanuet. You cannot discern the enemy.
          2. Candy wrapper
            Candy wrapper 21 February 2014 14: 40
            +3
            There is no need to give all the laurels to Yanukovych. The "honor" of recreating the UNA belongs to Yushchenko, who made Bandera a national hero.

            In those regions of Ukraine that recently gained independence Bandera has long been a national hero, so there is no need to "roll cotton wool." Yushchenko tried to banderize all of Ukraine, but to no avail.
            1. inkass_98
              inkass_98 21 February 2014 15: 28
              +5
              From whom did they gain independence, from themselves? Did they live in another country?
            2. smile
              smile 21 February 2014 15: 39
              +5
              Candy wrapper
              Let me ask you, which regions of Ukraine gained independence the other day? And from whom? By the way, given that the leaders of the bandarlogs are for banderization, it doesn't matter what the barrrans who followed them and who are tearing Ukraine to shreds think about. rapidly transforming the country into "Libya".
            3. Candy wrapper
              Candy wrapper 21 February 2014 16: 07
              -4
              Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk and, if I am not mistaken, the Volyn region recently gained independence from the corrupt Kiev authorities. For these regions, even the difference in mentality with other regions is more important - as the driving force of the current uprising, but also the venality of the Kiev government played an important role.
            4. smile
              smile 21 February 2014 18: 42
              +9
              Candy wrapper
              Yeah. so that’s why they already beg the EU for money ... :)))
              They still can’t understand that they will have to work out in a certain time, they, as the most corrupt part of Ukrainian society, don’t get used to it — all their leaders throughout history have earned it this way ... :)))
              And this is really - a huge difference in mentality - the Westernist mentality of a prostitute was carefully cultivated, and here is the logical end ... :)))
              And the driving force of that bloody mess and poverty into which such people plunged Ukraine ... objects like you is the desire of the bandarlog owners, their indication is nothing more.
              Congratulations to the bandarlogs on their own - I wish you good luck in building in the separately torn away territories of the Libyan paradise. :)))
              By the way - advice - regular prayers to hailugitlerubandera and universal values ​​greatly dull the feeling of hunger among those who lead a parasitic lifestyle (well, bandarlogs live like that). But unfortunately. I’m forced to disappoint you - bandarlogs will not succeed in stealing the whole of Ukraine and living off normal Ukrainians — they will not let the Euro-fascists go east — and in their territories bandarlogs have already stolen everything. Dry crackers and stock up with Vaseline .... native ... :)))
              It remains only to regret those normal Ukrainians who will have to live under the yoke of bandarlogs ... poor people .... really an association comes to mind - an old film - Planet of the Apes ....
            5. Candy wrapper
              Candy wrapper 21 February 2014 22: 11
              0
              It feels like I'm "about Thomas", and you tell me "about Erema." I don't like Bendera people and I live in the South Urals, so stop your hysteria dear. fool
            6. smile
              smile 21 February 2014 23: 07
              +5
              Candy wrapper
              Ndaaaa .... I thought you were an honest maydaun ... that would be excusable ... :)))
              It seems that you yourself do not understand what you are talking about ... you are against Bandera, but a rebellion supported by external forces, staged in Ukraine by people like the outspoken fascist Tyagnybok, and the others declaring their adherence to the ideology of Bandera and Shukhevych, proclaiming these vyrrrrodkov heroes of Ukraine "revolution" .... Remember the expression, I am against the communists, but for the Bolsheviks. Or do you think. that the maydauns will achieve their goals. contrary to the instructions from the leaders (dictated by the curators) ...

              You must be a supporter of our marshes, right? But it doesn’t bother you that both swamp and maydaunas, and moreover, democratically-minded crowds who defended Moscow at 91, and peaceful students who burned dozens of armored vehicles in Tiananmen Square before using the Chinese, use the same propaganda cliches and slogans? In Syria, Libya and Egypt, by the way, there were practically the same slogans, the same well-developed methodology .... Do you, a sick person, not see the same method of destroying statehood, called color revolutions?
              So that you absolutely right twist your finger here at the temple, twist more, your spring there clearly has loosened ... :)))
              And about the tantrum ... :))) Do not worry, I'm calm. like a brick, albeit slightly sarcastic. It's hard for me not to be malicious, seeing how quite adult people express such ... unreasonable things ... :)))
              The only thing that can infuriate me is precisely this - a demonstrative inability and unwillingness to see the obvious ... The most expensive thing is stupidity, you have to pay the most for it .... Maybe you better think first, and then draw conclusions, and ? Try it - it’s useful.
            7. sds555
              sds555 21 February 2014 23: 32
              +3
              smile
              You say the right and logical things, but I’m afraid you don’t explain it to him, you would see that he wrote here about the opening of the Olympiad, directly to CNN’s special correspondent. The whole set of Western cliches hi
            8. smile
              smile 22 February 2014 00: 35
              +2
              sds555
              Yeah, then it’s clear what kind of personality. :)))
              Zas .... lanz, liberal-minded. Favorite occupation- howls about exp ... x polymers. Due to primitive thinking, it is exposed to crude propaganda, which it is not always possible to comprehend ... :))) the potential cannon fodder of the color revolution is the ideological brother of our swamp and Ukrainian maydauns :)))

              Yes, you are right, you can never explain anything like that.
            9. sds555
              sds555 22 February 2014 00: 44
              +1
              That's it!
            10. mainu
              mainu 22 February 2014 03: 00
              +1
              I’m trying to understand how it seems that people suddenly turn out to be Orcs. Or maybe the Westerners in their old Catholic times were given some kind of special vaccination that turns them into creatures. Tyagnibok, for example, definitely gives the impression of an Alien.
  2. 31231
    31231 21 February 2014 19: 34
    +2
    Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk and, if I am not mistaken, the Volyn region recently gained independence from the corrupt Kiev authorities.

    Shaw even legislatively people voted for this separation?
  3. Candy wrapper
    Candy wrapper 21 February 2014 22: 13
    -5
    The people kicked the governors in the face (I envy them) - also a form of voting, of its kind.
  4. smile
    smile 21 February 2014 23: 16
    +4
    Candy wrapper
    What, dream of a swamp maydaun? Is this the limit of your dreams - actually destroy the country, drive it into poverty and external dependence? So go and get settled in an institution under the red light - get the dream of a bandarlog-a swamp not on the scale of the whole country, but on the scale of your individual calf ... People with similar dreams are not capable of creation, there you have a place.
  5. Cynic
    Cynic 22 February 2014 16: 28
    +1
    Quote: Fantik
    I envy them

    It’s just interesting to look into your eyes.
  6. v53993
    v53993 21 February 2014 22: 15
    +1
    For these regions, even the difference in mentality with other regions is more important - as the driving force of the current uprising

    The mentality of Mazepa, like Christian Jude, is on their forehead. It is necessary to crush bastards.
  • CALL.
    CALL. 21 February 2014 12: 18
    +11
    So if you want peace, rent Kiev. This can at least stop the bloodshed.

    Deja vu. It seems that it has already been. In 1936 - 1939 the fascists were also pacified.
    And what did it result in?
  • smile
    smile 21 February 2014 15: 28
    +8
    Candy wrapper
    Ideology and the desire for independence? Do not tell my shoes. All these unownso etc. etc., arose from a handful of nationalists working for foreign intelligence services - to Austria-Hungary, Poland, Germans ... then fascists.
    The Ukrainian nation separated from the Russian at the end of the 19th century. Well, we would not have time to enslave the UTB Ukrainians during this time ...
    Ukrainian statehood first arose in the year 91 - what was during the Civil War and under the fascists - there was no statehood. And now, unfortunately, with the naked eye, thanks in large part to people like you, the failure of Ukrainian statehood is obvious - the state cannot consist of people. one half of whom longs for a fascist revenge, craves for almost the genocide of Russian-speakers. longs for that. so that the whole of Ukraine would become a cancer in front of the Europeans ... and the other half disagree with such a fascist and slavish ideology ... categorically .... The self-destroyers themselves destroyed Ukraine as a capable state. They just guessed their own idea of ​​an independent Ukraine ... they killed it on Maydaun ...
    So, it is not necessary to consider completely non-self-dependent independents with a lackey psychology independent. Even Europeans in this case are not completely independent. And you are right - in this part of the Planet there are only two players - we and the Americans.
    1. Candy wrapper
      Candy wrapper 21 February 2014 16: 22
      -20%
      All these unownso etc. etc., arose from a handful of nationalists working for foreign intelligence services - to Austria-Hungary, Poland, Germans ... then fascists.

      When Poland came under the protectorate of the Russian Empire, many very ardent Polish independence fighters fled to the western regions of Ukraine. The Russian empire crushed the liberation uprisings in Poland no less cruelly than the peasant uprisings in their country (the fascists seem humanists in comparison with them). Bendera’s - not only genetic, but also cultural descendants of all sorts of grooms there - this is the starting point of the UNA-UNSO, and the cooperation of Bendera’s with the enemies of Moscow is the consequence, not the cause.
      1. smile
        smile 21 February 2014 17: 19
        +13
        Candy wrapper
        1. There were no liberation uprisings in Poland. No one. An absolutely aggressive state of the imperial type - Poland, which threatened the existence of Russia and, from the 16th century, ostentatiously included land from Sweden to the Black Sea in its coat of arms, exploded trying to enslave the Russians. Like fascist Germany. for the same reasons, Poland was overthrown and dismembered.
        The slogans of all "uprisings" are the restoration of the Rzecz Pospolita within the borders of the 17th century - that is, together with the part of the Russian lands enslaved at that time. So, their "uprisings" are the same if the Nazis revolted in Germany now and demanded the restoration of Germany within the borders of the summer of 42.
        By the way, the Polish peasantry did not support the rebellions of the Polish aristocracy and troops (the evil Russians allowed them their army, which was kept and armed at the expense of OUR treasury), because they did not want to return the pans tyranny - therefore, during the riots, the lords burned not only Russian villages, but also Polish ones. And ours simply did not need to do this - the Polish peasants understood perfectly. what's in the empire. where there is a law to live better than in a Polish mess, when the gentry could kill with impunity. rip off their skins alive or steal wives even from their own kind, not like the lackeys.
        2. Regarding the brutal suppression of the uprisings in Russia, from 1826 to 1905, exactly 612 people were sentenced to death in RI. For eighty years. About a third of them were executed. I can give a tip where you can find a list of names. Men, for example, have this list on a bookshelf. I recall that at that time several thousand people were executed in Britain annually, and even the uprisings of the peasants were suppressed with truly brutal cruelty, quite in the SS spirit ... only the Poles surpassed them, and theses and others.
        So, we don’t need propaganda here, there’s no reason ... or you just don’t think a damn about the subject of the conversation, but just thoughtlessly repeating propaganda cliches? :)))
        I’m wondering, comparing us in terms of cruelty with the Nazis, do you show your hopeless stupidity or intentionally lie? It would be better if they lied, I respect the enemies, but despise the iddiots.
        3. Regarding the fact that you are talking about the origins of bandarlogs - why do you forget the most powerful efforts of Austria-Hungary, whose special services actually created independent men with the aim of tearing away the Ukrainian part of the Russian territory and planting among the Russian people living there autonomous sentiments. The Poles could not make such a contribution - they simply destroyed the faith of the enslaved Russian people and carried out forced polonization.
        And cooperation with the enemies of Moscow’s independents happened only because these independents were created by the enemies of the Russian people who wanted to enslave part of it. living on Russian soil called Ukraine. All.
      2. major1976
        major1976 21 February 2014 20: 15
        +7
        I share the opinion completely and completely smile! The opponents do not know the history of Little Russia and their homeland !!! There is an example (maybe not in the topic) !!! (operas) !!! Both came to work in Russia, work illegally, they also live illegally in a construction trailer (this is about the consistency of the authorities and the state of Ukraine)! Over a glass of tea with tears in their eyes, they say, "I'm ashamed of the country that is now called Ukraine, I am ashamed of a small part of society that succumbed to the propaganda of the West "!!! This is the opinion of people, although there are only two who were born in the USSR and then served as" independent "!!! Those who are now praising Konovalets, Bandera, Shukhevych and so on are 100% sure history will reward them according to their merits, as it did to their idols !!! It was not for nothing that my grandfather, after the storming of Prague in 1945, drove these bugs through the forests of Ukraine for two more years !!! I will add, I think there is no such state of Ukraine, but this idea was invented in Germanic and Austrian skom General Staff before the First World War!
      3. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 22 February 2014 10: 41
        +2
        It’s very wise, and most importantly, a concrete statement of the true state of affairs and everything is put into place. That’s how it’s necessary to beat all falsifiers of history with facts and historical truth! For they forgot who they owed to the preservation of statehood (Poland should not have existed as a state, and she was given the role of the German governor general), but I don’t want to talk about Ukraine ...!
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 21 February 2014 18: 57
      +6
      Quote: Fantik
      When Poland came under the protectorate of the Russian Empire, many very ardent Polish independence fighters fled to the western regions of Ukraine.

      Russia joined the process of dividing RZh.Py after it lost its STATEHOOD. The initiators of the partition were the Austrians (the same Germans) and the Brandenburg Electorship (Prussia). Moreover, the Galicians (about "mandovki since the time of Danila Galitsky) became part of the Austrian Empire. And Russia hurts your eyes all over you ... Well, wherever you spit, you find yourself in" moskala "everywhere. You taco mikto yak" Lemberg "does not cut your ear ?
    3. Ulus5
      Ulus5 21 February 2014 21: 21
      +3
      Quote: Fantik
      (fascists seem humanists in comparison with them).

      Well Fantik you demon.
      Now, if you experienced humane fascists on your own skin, what would you sing then.
      As for tsarism, and you remember how arrogant Saxons suppressed uprisings. (well, for example, in India).
    4. Cynic
      Cynic 22 February 2014 16: 32
      +1
      Quote: Fantik
      The Russian empire crushed the liberation uprisings in Poland no less cruelly than the peasant uprisings at home (the fascists seem humanists in comparison with them)
  • 31231
    31231 21 February 2014 19: 24
    +3
    If you believe these articles, then in the world except the USA and the Russian Federation there is almost no one else. You do not admit that the same UNA-UNSO was not born yesterday?


    Svidomenko, well, tell me why you didn’t maidan under Yusch? Which lived better?
    The US says no where does not stick its hands ?!
    Why then is everyone who is against him (Assad, Gaddafi, Milosevic) get a war in their state? But the same undemocratic, but Saudi, Qatari, Brunei Licking live quietly?
  • Polovec
    Polovec 21 February 2014 22: 42
    +1
    Fantik! That is, you think that Bandera is capable of some kind of constructive action? Anyone can hit the clock with a hammer, but only an engineer can create them! Do you see engineers among the Bandera rednecks?
    And by covering the borders of the Russian Federation, it simply demonstrated to the foolish, deprived of imagination dybil that actually awaits them.
    It's just that someone has blood serfdom. They can’t do without a whip! Well, Poland is waiting for them!
  • Egoza
    Egoza 21 February 2014 10: 37
    +8
    Quote: domokl
    Put yourself in the place of this commander

    Yes, it's me about Lutsenko. As for the military in the memory, it would be strange to expect the opposite from them. But this abomination - Lutsik - deserves the highest measure! I have forgotten that he is no longer a deputy and he has no parliamentary immunity! Instead of him, his wife was dragged into Batkivshchyna! Or did he think he could hide behind her skirt? And how he "suffered" on the bunk - he was so sick! They were released ahead of schedule, and even went over the hill for treatment! I.D.I.O.T.Y !!!!
  • washi
    washi 21 February 2014 11: 29
    +8
    Quote: domokl
    There are some men with shoulder straps of colonels and generals, but there are no commanders ...

    And where are the commanders from?
    More or less sensible and principled did not take the oath of this territory, which means they were fired. And then nationalist reforms.
  • seller trucks
    seller trucks 21 February 2014 09: 46
    +55
    Quote: Egoza
    There are many traitors !!!


    I welcome Elena! traitors will be forgotten.

    Yesterday in the news I heard about three dead compatriots from Crimea, soldiers from "Berkut", senior lieutenant Dmitry Alexandrovich Vlasenkosenior lieutenant Vitaly Ivanovich Goncharov and senior warrant officer of the special forces militia battalion of the command of the internal troops Andrey Vasilyevich Fedyukin.

    I am proud of my countrymen, the Eternal Memory of the Heroes who did not shame the affairs of their grandfathers and fathers.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 February 2014 12: 53
      +13
      Quote: seller trucks
      I am proud of my countrymen, the Eternal Memory of the Heroes who did not shame the affairs of their grandfathers and fathers.

      I'll put to the obelisk -
      son's first toy.
      Rattle. Rattle ...
      Stretched out thin low
      my life is from that high-rise
      and at the bottom - pictures, pictures ...
      And on these dull pictures
      I'm alive and you're alive
      both have a crazy look.
      But already staff reports
      assigned for us a section:
      you died, I turned gray ...
      You told me before the fight -
      and I remember until now -
      that he always dreamed of a son.
      From beloved laughter
      you are the count gone on the list.
      Eternal pain in the souls of loved ones ...
      I lay at the obelisk -
      son's first toy.
      Rattle.
      Rattle ...
      Yuri GLADKEVICH.
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 21 February 2014 13: 34
        +5
        Dying, dying
        Keep dying ...
        Because they protect -
        They promised to heal.

        After all, they are protected by law,
        Faces of evil are always rude.
        Skirmishes and raids
        And medals and coffins.

        And behind them are our lives,
        Our families and homes.
        And they are full of homeland
        Everything to the bottom, to the bottom.

        Do not trade their honor
        And they don’t betray friends
        Without arrogance and flattery
        You and honor and salute.

        Ekaterina Leshukova

  • sssla
    sssla 21 February 2014 10: 28
    +15
    Quote: Egoza
    said that the Lviv Berkut unanimously decided to return from Kiev to Lvov. And he assured that his fighters “did not and will not carry out criminal orders.” In his speech, Lutsenko stressed that he urged people to go to Kiev with weapons not to attack someone, but only to defend the Maidan.

    What can I say This is the real Ukraine So it was at all times Who stood to die so those descendants are proud and the enemies hate but the feathers do not raise
    And whoever feared and sold their homeland so those descendants whine cry and are constantly looking for the guilty, and the owners voluntarily try to plant themselves on the hump because it is said in the article that the lamb’s eyes of their leaders and OTAR themselves
  • papik09
    papik09 26 February 2014 07: 01
    0
    Helen love , well, how could you "personally shot"? Well, is it possible to shoot a living person? Nope, ay-ay-ay! First you need to remove him (and do it around the clock for a week with a break for eating), and then you can shoot wassat
  • domokl
    domokl 21 February 2014 09: 26
    +11
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    . Bandera stand by the wall for each other and therefore win, although they are fewer.

    Hi Sash1 drinks It’s not about the solidarity or disunity of the soldiers. The matter is in the commanders and, therefore, preparation for a specific job ... The Maiduns are prepared. This was shown by yesterday’s events. They are not just trained, but well trained and have combat experience (I saw how snipers act, this is really a sniper , not arrows-athletes)
    1. Gvfrog
      Gvfrog 22 February 2014 04: 16
      +1
      I agree, but not completely; the inside view is not only a matter of preparation, but also of the difference in mentality of the Ukrainian East and West, we in the East work more for us to strike once and another nuance the government got all the people are dissatisfied with this political technologists skillfully use, and they fight specifically on the Maidan trained fighters. And the situation in my opinion, by all branches of government and the majority and the opposition, in accordance with the order of Western puppeteers, is reduced to chaos. First, rock the boat and kneel in Brussels and New York to ask for a peacekeeping contingent. In general, I honestly admit to me VERY and VERY scared.
      1. Nikolaitch
        Nikolaitch 24 February 2014 00: 42
        0
        Quote: GVFrog
        I agree, but not completely; the inside view is not only a matter of preparation, but also of the difference in mentality of the Ukrainian East and West, we in the East work more for us to strike once and another nuance the government got all the people are dissatisfied with this political technologists skillfully use, and they fight specifically on the Maidan trained fighters. And the situation in my opinion, by all branches of government and the majority and the opposition, in accordance with the order of Western puppeteers, is reduced to chaos. First, rock the boat and kneel in Brussels and New York to ask for a peacekeeping contingent. In general, I honestly admit to me VERY and VERY scared.


        Don’t be afraid. Two deaths cannot be - one cannot be avoided. hi
        1. Reks
          Reks 24 February 2014 00: 50
          0
          Quote: Nikolaich
          Two deaths cannot be - one cannot be avoided.

          good Ah handsome !!! Golden words !! And let the fascists urinate in their pants. That is why they fussed so much that everyone could be in time while the Russians were busy. wink The Olympics then ended !! You can already more closely, so all the faces of the Nazi raspiarin to see !!!!
  • svp67
    svp67 21 February 2014 11: 23
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    They are not organized and can not be heard, except that in the internet. Bandera stand by the wall for each other and therefore win, although they are fewer.

    There are people, there are no REAL leaders, but I believe that they will appear soon ...
  • stroporez
    stroporez 21 February 2014 14: 01
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    . Bandera stand by the wall for each other and therefore win, although they are fewer.
    Dyk in Chechnya they had someone to learn from ...............
  • cdrt
    cdrt 22 February 2014 02: 55
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: svp67
    , on the "right side" there are also a lot of people who do not want to live under "benders"

    They are not organized and can not be heard, except that in the internet. Bandera stand by the wall for each other and therefore win, although they are fewer.


    Well, no, but Odessa is my mother (yes, it’s not easy there, but the Bandera’s cops were piled up by the local cops the day before yesterday as well), even the Russophobian Vinnitsa is still holding on.
    And exactly? - it seems like there were no special attacks on the power and power structures even the day before yesterday (although this information may already be outdated).
    And most importantly - giving these disparate (but about half) in the west and in the center will have to endure them in the form of economic migrants already in Russia. Therefore - no matter how scary it is to write about Ukraine - a civil war. Well ... or surrender of all positions, i.e. surrender of the east and southeast to Bandera (as the Yugoslavs once).
  • DEfindER
    DEfindER 21 February 2014 10: 51
    +7
    Quote: svp67
    on the "right side" there are also a lot of people who do not want to live under "benders"

    I agree, yes, in the west, the majority of the population does not tolerate these banderlogs, but in key positions there are fascists who ordered the police and troops not to resist the militants, and completely obey their requirements, which led to the seizure of everything that is possible .. And you yourself people only suffer from this .. I think you can’t surrender western Ukraine, there are the same people who are much more than nonhumans ..
  • Danafxnumx
    Danafxnumx 21 February 2014 12: 29
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    on the "right side" there are also very many who do not want to live under "benders" and this should be used ...

    as? to give them weapons and send them to fight with Bandera?
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 February 2014 22: 07
      +1
      Quote: DanaF1
      as? to give them weapons and send them to fight with Bandera?

      They will do it without you, and the task of our diplomacy is to look for allies on the territory of Ukraine, and "turn people to face Russia," that is, to do everything that we have been neglecting all this time, hoping that it will work out anyway, but not came down and did not pass ...
  • Polovec
    Polovec 21 February 2014 15: 28
    +6
    Maidan was already in Ukraine and Yushchenko and Timashenko came to power. They then just seized power from Yanukovych, who won the election. Ukraine already lived under Western control. Did not like. Again chosen Yanukovych. We will not discuss the personality of this president. Ukraine chose him!
    Now, pennies again for the fish. Again Maidan, again a pro-Western leader, again striving for the country.
    Russia is far from ideal! We have a lot of problems! We are not happy with a lot! But we are moving forward. 90s left behind. The main lesson we learned is that transformation must take place in an evolutionary, not revolutionary, way!
    Yes, we still have a "plush misunderstanding" in prime ministers. Yes, we still have someone itching in the ass from the desire to reform something. But the general trend is still reasonable and I want to believe that we will smoothly take the handle over ourselves and for a start we will go to horizontal flight, and then to climb.
    Ukraine deprives itself of all this. Even the example of neighboring Belarus does not help her to make the right decision. Since time immemorial, Belarus has been living under the sanctions of the EU and the USA! So what? Less corrupt pro-Western punks in power! Less corruption. There is no subject for blackmail of power from the West and allows for an independent policy in the interests of their own country!
    Sanctions of the West is a gift and confirmation of the loyalty of the chosen direction!
    Why be afraid of them?
    Will it be worse if the authorities do not have accounts over the hill? If power will ride less in Paris and Gangne? Hardly.
    Ukraine simply merged its independence and became a puppet of the West in the fight against Russia! Does it suit them?
    They will not be allowed to die of hunger. There will be humanitarian supplies, loans, permission to slack in the EU countries.
    There will be no future! His harness on the Maidan, along with tires ...
  • vlad0
    vlad0 21 February 2014 08: 23
    +28
    It seems that Yanukovych, and most of the inhabitants of glorious Ukraine, poorly taught history. And with logic there is generally trouble.
    Something similar happened 20 years ago in Tajikistan: "Let's separate from the Russians, and we'll live !!!!" And now, on all the streets of Russia, there are a lot of Tajik Gaster who came to the "big brother" to earn a piece of bread for the family. But they are independent (from a normal and prosperous life for sure).
    Something tells me that in 5-7 years, independent Ukrainians from Galicia will hang around with us in search of work.
    Wait and see.
    1. calocha
      calocha 21 February 2014 09: 07
      +18
      Bendera’s puppets of the West! What their owner will tell them and do. Receive the floor of Ukraine is a gift of fate! But believe me, who thinks that that stupid person will stop at this. No need to comfort yourself with illusions. War is knocking on our house. Terrorism looks up in the west of Ukraine. A hotbed of terror under our noses .....
    2. domokl
      domokl 21 February 2014 09: 23
      +6
      Quote: vlad0
      It seems that Yanukovych, and most of the inhabitants of glorious Ukraine, poorly taught history. And with logic there is generally trouble.
      Something similar happened 20 years ago in Tajikistan.

      laughing Something similar happened in Russia in 1917 ... And clearly according to the same plan ... The only thing I did not see today was the meeting of the Rada. So I don’t know the modern motros Zheleznyakova in the Ukrainian version ... Read the rest of the textbook and predict everything
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 21 February 2014 09: 28
        +2
        Quote: domokl
        The only thing today I did not watch the meeting of the Council

        Watch today at 10.00 today. Today I should be glad to get together completely. Much will depend on her.
        1. domokl
          domokl 21 February 2014 09: 46
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          Here much will depend on her.

          I allow myself to disagree with this. Let the oppositionists seem to have made an illegitimate decision in the morning, but there is one ... And that means that the same Right wing will calmly fulfill it ... That is the precedent. I mean, at the beginning, adoption, and then repeal of laws ..
          Now legal squiggles are of little interest to anyone.
      2. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 21 February 2014 10: 10
        -5
        domokl (
        Well, if such "motros" write something about 1917 with such errors, then the knowledge of the history of those times, for such "motros", is ZERO.
        Chatting is not tossing bags, dragging to place and out of place 17 year-stupidity does not allow itself to understand, it is not necessary to suck 17, but the fact that over the past 25 years, you have been doing things in Europe and Russia by force always at the direction of the West.
        Well, the "motros", "motros" yelling about 17, are exactly the same spiritual Bandera.
        1. domokl
          domokl 21 February 2014 10: 19
          +11
          It’s not accepted ... Well, it happens ... Illiterate people can write too ... The truth is not literate. And I never said that I know the language perfectly ..
          If you don’t know the history of Zheleznyak and the Constituent Assembly, then, thank you, but these are your problems, not mine.
          And about sucking .. This is also not for me ... This is what others are doing fellow
          Are you still tired of the instructions of the State Department and others? By painting the machinations of Americans and others like you, you humiliate all those whom you mentioned (Europe and Russia), in fact, that they are brainless people.
          Well, the last ... I advise you to read your own comment on the subject of errors laughing
      3. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 21 February 2014 11: 01
        +4
        Quote: domokl
        Something similar happened in Russia in 1917 ... And clearly according to the same plan.

        Something similar in 1917. led to an unprecedented heyday of the USSR state, victory over fascist Europe and access to space.
        And what will the Maidan lead to? This is a huge difference!
      4. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 21 February 2014 19: 04
        +1
        Quote: domokl
        Read the rest straight and predict everything else

        The textbook is not a TORAH, it is a thing specifically tailored to a specific policy, at a particular stage in the development of public education. Not without reason DAM and GDP were puzzled by the TEXTBOOKS on history (correct, moreover!).
    3. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 21 February 2014 12: 34
      +3
      Quote: vlad0
      Something tells me that in 5-7 years, independent Ukrainians from Galicia will hang around with us in search of work.

      yes they are already, and for a long time ...
      1. zzz
        zzz 21 February 2014 14: 02
        +3
        Quote: DanaF1
        Quote: vlad0
        Something tells me that in 5-7 years, independent Ukrainians from Galicia will hang around with us in search of work.

        yes they are already, and for a long time ...


        It’s not their fault ... It’s not a shame to work. You can condemn only those who brewed Maidan.
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 21 February 2014 14: 37
          0
          Quote: zzz
          It is not their fault ... It’s not a shame to work.

          I’m not saying that I’m ashamed, I say that their number will not change significantly ...
  • Denis
    Denis 21 February 2014 08: 28
    +40
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Another option is a full-scale civil warrior and the division of Ukraine along the Dnieper.

    I think there are no illusions for other options.
    1. raf
      raf 21 February 2014 08: 40
      +10
      Black humor, but it seems that this is so!
    2. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 21 February 2014 11: 08
      +8
      Quote: Denis
      I think there are no illusions for other options.

      Well, why, doesn’t there remain normal patriots in Ukraine, is there an army? For example, start with the nationalization of factories and banks! The arrest of oligarchs and corrupt authorities. Clean out pro-Western influence agents. And build a normal socialist state! Total business then!
      It is strange that no one is considering such a scenario, and the media are intensely exaggerating options for either European integration or a blood bath! We see other options that do not suit the media owners!
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 21 February 2014 14: 10
        +5
        plus to you.von say, from Odessa, the main cop asked for help from Bo Odessa Bandera agitators were very "hot" and he can not guarantee their safety ....... so sho ------- "... . live Odessa-mom, live and prosper !!!!!!!!!!!! "
      2. Ulus5
        Ulus5 21 February 2014 21: 48
        +1
        Quote: S_mirnov
        Well, why, doesn’t there remain normal patriots in Ukraine, is there an army? For example, start with the nationalization of factories and banks! The arrest of oligarchs and corrupt authorities. Clean out pro-Western influence agents. And build a normal socialist state! Total business then!

        I also thought about it. But zapadentsy, calling kipesh on the Maidan the People’s Revolution, do not even consider this option.
        So what kind of People’s Revolution is it if the power remains in the hands of the oligarchs?
    3. washi
      washi 21 February 2014 11: 48
      +2
      Quote: Denis
      I think there are no illusions for other options.

      More will appear soon:
      As previously reported, the Maidanites captured the Rivne Nuclear Power Plant in the city of Kuznetsovsk, Rivne Region.
      Due to the fact that the newly minted owners of the station have no idea how to manage it and at the same time refuse to let specialists and security officials enter the facility, the regional authorities announced the evacuation of the population from the region.
      Recall that today the Rivne Regional State Administration is also taken under the control of the Maydanites, and the decision “On the urgent evacuation of the population” has already been adopted by the new regional government.
      http://logopet.ru/v-kuznetsovske-zahvachena-rovenskaya-aes-prinyato-reshenie-o-s
      rochnoy-evakuatsii-naseleniya /
      Among other things, today a nuclear power plant was captured in the city of Kuznetsovsk, Rivne region. After the assault on the station, activists occupied the administrative blocks, set fire to the archives and the main server. Now that the control over the region’s main energy resource has been established, the newly-made commandant of the Rivne Nuclear Power Plant simply does not know what to do with it.
      “We share our energy with the people of Ukraine” - jokes A. Shleiman (commandant of the Rivne AC, representative of the “Right Sector” in Rivne).
      http://logopet.ru/maydanovtsyi-zahvatili-rovenskuyu-atomnuyu-stantsiyu-i-ne-znay
      ut-chto-s-ney-delat /
      1. Cristall
        Cristall 21 February 2014 12: 47
        +4
        I spoke about this yesterday, 4 nuclear power plants in the territory. A flock of sheep who do not know what to do with such objects. If we consider that only the Russian language is in the territory of the nuclear power plant (in particular, our Polytechnic University prepares only in Russian, but there are no such institutions at the memory)
        the prospect is terrible.
        I hope that they have enough brains not to distract the staff from work ... otherwise everyone will come ...
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 22 February 2014 00: 01
          +1
          Something in my head does not add up! A nuclear power plant is a strategic facility, which means it must be guarded by armed guards! Whereas? Damn Holmes !!!
          Guard, what ran away? Or lay down in full force protecting the object? Do not you think that we are not being negotiated?
      2. demel2
        demel2 21 February 2014 15: 08
        +3
        Quote: Vasya
        “We share our energy with the people of Ukraine” - jokes A. Shleiman

        The commandant’s name is Ukrainian.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 21 February 2014 19: 09
          +1
          Quote: demel2
          The commandant’s name is Ukrainian.

          THAT SHOVE YOU SAY, Ukrainian!
  • domokl
    domokl 21 February 2014 09: 10
    +8
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    full-scale civil warrior and the division of Ukraine along the Dnieper.

    Alas, this option is no longer real either. The maydaunas will not stop, which means the war will go east. As long as the authorities in Kiev (and will soon give her the bag) the maydaunas will act.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 09: 17
      +10
      Quote: domokl
      Maydaunas will not stop, which means that the war will go east.

      Hi Sanya! To go east, we need reserves and significant ones, not one of those rams that climb under 7.62 behind shields. In the east there are a lot of Russians and Russia itself is nearby, Putin will not be idle. This explosion will already be inside Russia itself, if we don’t help .
      1. domokl
        domokl 21 February 2014 09: 40
        +14
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        To go east, you need reserves and significant and

        Hi again! drinks Sasha, do you specially pour oil on the souls of Ukrainians from the eastern regions? What reserves are needed then?
        Let me remind you that in the last parliamentary elections, all kinds of nationalists were selected from the eastern regions as well ... Notice, they were honestly chosen. You think who voted for them?
        So reserves are not needed when there is a fifth column. And trained, armed. Prepared to act in the conditions of eastern Ukraine.
        And all this props with retirement activists united to fight the militants is nothing more than a zilch. I don’t see the real actions of the authorities in the eastern regions ... Now is not the time to tear the throats on the platform, now is the time to beat ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 09: 57
          +4
          Quote: domokl
          ? What reserves are needed then?

          Sanya, look at them, there are few pros, most of the cannon fodder, most of which will die in the first battle. Well, there will be reserves ready to die.
          Quote: domokl
          The real actions of the authorities in the eastern regions, I do not see

          I, too, so far, apart from idle talk, do not see anything, what shall we look further.
          Quote: domokl
          ..Now is not the time to tear the throats on the podium, now is the time to beat ...

          To beat, that is, to whom, but there is no one to give the order to request
          1. domokl
            domokl 21 February 2014 10: 27
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            , there are few pros, most cannon fodder

            A lot of pros are not needed ... Up to a thousand well-trained people are enough for Kiev ... (these are about 80-85 groups), a couple of thousand guys just dragged to the slaughter (those who are courageously throwing stones and cocktails now) well, really meat for cover. And here, the author correctly noted, dissatisfied, stupidly believing that they would not shoot a lot, even in Kiev.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            To beat, that is, to whom, but there is no one to give the order to

            That's the problem. All these cease-fires, negotiations are nothing but preparations for the next offensive.
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 21 February 2014 11: 15
              +1
              Quote: domokl
              A lot of pros and no need ... For Kiev, up to a thousand well-trained people are enough ... (these are about 80-85 groups), a couple of thousand guys just trained for the slaughter

              This option is suitable only with the complete degradation of the masses as a real force. I don’t understand, but what is the population of Kiev doing? Tucked up tails sit at home and wait for how it will end? And why does the local FSB not twist this thousand provocateurs? Obviously does not converge ...
              We conclude - the reality in Kiev is not at all the same as the media describe it to us!
              1. aleks 62
                aleks 62 21 February 2014 12: 43
                +4
                The population of Kiev in the elections voted for the most part for "Svoboda" - somewhere 28%, for "Batkivshchyna" more than 30%, the rest was wavering between the Pr, the Communists, etc. Draw conclusions ...
                1. uizik
                  uizik 21 February 2014 22: 40
                  0
                  For the results of the vote and for the fact that they were allowed to arrange a garbage dump in their own place to withdraw "Berkut" and BB from the capital. Let the city itself maintain public order and wash it off the square, and the South-East must decide how to build relations with the upcoming new government, while strengthening the law enforcement agencies in the event of aggression from the Galician people.
              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 12: 46
                +3
                Quote: S_mirnov
                And why does the local FSB not twist this thousand provocateurs?

                Smirnov, but doesn’t it bother you that they shoot from the guns on the streets?
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 21 February 2014 13: 41
                  +4
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Smirnov, but doesn’t it bother you that they shoot from the guns on the streets?

                  And what is the local FSB afraid of shooting from machine guns? Since they admitted that in their country they shoot at the streets with machine guns (and the fight against agents of influence is the FSB’s direct business), then you have to go, take these machine guns and put them in the shooting place and preferably flat!

                  I don’t understand what the Ukrainian security forces are doing. Are prostitutes covered?
                  In general, the picture drawn by the media with reality and logic does not converge. So the media distort the picture, hold back some facts that explain the inaction or incapacity of the security forces.
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 14: 59
                  +2
                  Quote: S_mirnov

                  I don’t understand what the Ukrainian security forces are doing. Are prostitutes covered?

                  Now they die from thugs bullets, protecting the country from the Nazis.
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  In general, the picture drawn by the media with reality and logic does not converge.

                  What does the media have to do with it, that you don’t have enough Ukrainians on our site who tell you how it really is or if you are not interested in reading what they write.
                3. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 21 February 2014 15: 38
                  +4
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Now they die from thugs bullets, protecting the country from the Nazis.

                  And who let these thugs into the country with weapons? And tell the Ukrainian security officials that we must not die from bullets, but destroy the enemy, since they allowed this enemy to come to their home!

                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  What does the media have to do with it, you, that there are not enough Ukrainians on our site,

                  Media here despite the fact that this site is related to the media, but despite the abundance of articles about Maidan - there is no information why the Ukrainian security forces can take control of the situation !!!
                  Well, why the heck are such media?
                4. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 15: 41
                  0
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  And who let these thugs into the country with weapons? And tell the Ukrainian security officials that we must not die from bullets, but destroy the enemy, since they allowed this enemy to come to their home!

                  Here you are seeing what is happening, you sit, you shit such an X ... Sorry, but you are a simple yap.
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  Media here despite the fact that this site is related to the media,

                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  Well, why the heck are such media?

                  Do not like the sit, go to another.
                5. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 21 February 2014 19: 23
                  +4
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Here you are seeing what is happening, you sit, you shit such an X ... Sorry, but you are a simple yap.

                  Very emotional, but not very informative! So all the same, I would like to hear the answer to the question: - who allowed thugs with weapons to Ukraine? And who should, according to his official duties, disentangle what was allowed?
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Do not like the sit, go to another.

                  laughing There is no hope! the site is of course mediocre, but the readers are good, there are not indifferent ones. And I have no habit of abandoning those who are counting on my help! "Russians are in war - they don't abandon their own!" Classic.
                6. smile
                  smile 22 February 2014 02: 28
                  0
                  S_mirnov
                  Hello.
                  Ah, our site is mediocre .. Byaka Kaka :)))
                  ... but don’t tell me a direct site - I really want to compare. And then I vegetate here, understand :)))
                  By the way, it's not entirely clear - why don't you like bandarlogs? Their worldview is identical to our all-spreading people, they are the ideological brothers of our swamps. The bogs learn with them according to the same training manuals from some curators. The rhetoric is identical with our boggy down to the smallest detail ... By the way, Putin and our authorities, so unloved by you, are treated in the same way as you. Also the same "not indifferent" .... :))) We tried to arrange something like that - fortunately, it did not pass.
                  Maybe it's worth it to be consistent, huh?

                  I understand that you have not thoughtlessly written an excellent slogan ... but it looks strange against the background of your absolutely orange rhetoric, only with reference to Russia. Hiding behind? :)))
                  Our swamp and other opponents of our "bloody tyranny" happily supported the bandarlog ... Why are you not with them? :)))
                  And about people with weapons - it would be so strange if the special services of Ukraine were working normally, despite the fact that graduates of SBU educational institutions are presented by the American ambassador. The entire state is afflicted with a cancerous tumor of Banderlog and agents of influence from the United States and Europe. It is not a problem to get weapons in any city of any country. But its unpunished use is possible only in such a mess that the Maydauns have staged. We tried to arrange such a swamp ... And they did not calm down. You just haven't calmed down and continue to dream of a "revolution" ... :))))
                  Where is your praise to our special services that did not allow events in a similar Ukrainian scenario. who tried to arrange your like-minded people in Moscow, eh? :)))
  • Papakiko
    Papakiko 21 February 2014 11: 33
    +2
    Quote: domokl
    That's the problem. All these cease-fires, negotiations are nothing but preparations for the next offensive.

    And inflate the fire.
    Good day to you comrades.
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    To beat, that is, to whom, but there is no one to give the order to

    Do not doubt there is someone to command.
    On Monday, all the funniest things will begin.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 12: 45
      +1
      Quote: Papakiko
      On Monday, all the funniest things will begin.

      In Crimea, too, is not calm, but there is no place for Bandera ...... In the event that the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych "surrenders his power," the Cossacks will take control of the power departments and military units in Sevastopol. About this, as reported by "ForPost", said the chieftain of the Cossack Union "Rus" Vyacheslav Bebnev.

      “As soon as the Banderaites take power there, and Yanukovych surrenders it, on the same day, I answer you, the power here will be taken into their own hands. SBU, the Ministry of Internal Affairs will be taken. Military units will be taken under control already by Sevastopol. We will not let anyone in here with weapons, ”he emphasized.
      http://politobzor.net/show-13505-kazaki-prigotovilis-brat-vlast-v-sevastopole.ht
      ml
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 12: 50
    +1
    Quote: domokl
    A lot of pros and no need ... For Kiev, up to a thousand well-trained people are enough ..

    Sanya, well, you yourself know what street fighting is in the conditions of the city. Travel east, you need to take every city that you can turn into a fortress if you wish. But it’s all gone.
    It’s much easier to keep defense in your own city than to attack in a foreign city, trying to occupy house after house. I won’t write about the rear, but in this situation, they’ll shoot not only with machine guns.
    1. TT1968
      TT1968 21 February 2014 17: 46
      +14
      Greetings from Bulgaria.
      Dear Alexander, it surprises me that you still believe that snickering ordinary people will stand up to defend some principles, will "keep the defense" ... Is the example of Kiev not enough for you? Why are they not holding the defense there, why are they not defending "peaceful life"?
      Banderlog, tasting the blood, can no longer be stopped on their own! The slightest attempt at resistance will be presented as "sabotaging the peace process", "encroachments of imperial Russia" and the like liberal howl. I am very sorry, but Ukraine cannot escape from its intended role as a raw appendage of the EU and a springboard for a campaign against Russia!
      UTB I see with my own eyes, in Bulgaria.
      Everyday !!!
  • Danafxnumx
    Danafxnumx 21 February 2014 12: 39
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    most cannon fodder, most of which will die in the first battle

    Hello!
    there will be no battle there ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 12: 43
      +3
      Quote: DanaF1
      there will be no battle there ...

      Hi Dana! Now the shooting has started again, the militants are eager for Rade. Ame is just beginning and all the battles are still ahead, unfortunately.
      1. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 21 February 2014 13: 02
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Now the shooting has started again, the militants are eager for Rade. Ame is just beginning, and all the battles are still ahead, unfortunately.

        It seems to me that now it’s too late to rock the boat, you had to clean it yesterday morning, it was the last time ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 13: 07
          +2
          Quote: DanaF1
          It seems to me that it’s too late to rock the boat,

          Who then will rule the country, those who run with machine guns and shout glory to Ukraine. No, if you surrender now, the Nazis will take power in the country.
        2. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 21 February 2014 13: 58
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Who then will rule the country, those who run with machine guns and shout glory to Ukraine. No, if you surrender now, the Nazis will take power in the country.

          I'm afraid so ...

          I, at the moment, do not see an adequate way out of the crisis ...

          it is clear that Yanuk will not give an order to disperse banderlogs by force of arms ...
      2. svp67
        svp67 21 February 2014 13: 21
        +2
        Quote: DanaF1
        it seems to me that it's too late now
        Do not be late to live The young lady. And learn the history of your country.

        Kuzma Minin's Appeal to the Nizhny Novgorod
        (free poetic translation by A. Tremasov)

        Men, brotherhood, Russia in ruin,
        Polish thieves in Moscow.
        Traitors whisper about reconciliation
        The "wind" in their head.

        The church is humiliated, turmoil everywhere,
        Terrible news is flying.
        Rati hired share ownership
        They want our doom.

        Time tells us to collect the militia
        Families home laying.
        Go out to Moscow in military clothing
        Crush the Power of Evil!

        There is a voivode whose valor is verified
        In bloody sections more than once.
        Know! Hope is not lost
        Truth and Faith are for us!

        Dmitry Pozharsky people's army
        Will lead to glorious deeds!
        We will regain both Honor and Dignity,
        The enemy banner will fall!

        Nizhny Novgorod! Own savings
        We sacrifice for the sake of Russia!
        Orthodox Russia is waiting for a revival,
        God save and save!
      3. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 21 February 2014 14: 00
        -1
        Quote: svp67
        Do not be late to live The young lady. And learn the history of your country.

        I advise you very much, first carefully read what they write to you ...
        and then think, and not sculpt right off the bat ...

        otherwise you remind me of a Pole ... one with a saber on a tank ...
      4. svp67
        svp67 21 February 2014 14: 09
        -1
        Quote: DanaF1
        otherwise you remind me of a Pole ... one with a saber on a tank ...
        What do you say and where is it and when the Polish zholnezh, or rather the lancers, went with a saber to the tanks ... Do not go into those "wilds where you DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL". And stop spreading MYTHS, moreover, invented in the department of Goebbels ...
      5. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 21 February 2014 14: 39
        -1
        Quote: svp67
        But what do you say, and where is it and when did the Polish salvages, or rather, the ulans, went with sabers to tanks ...

        this is an internet meme called ...

        denotes a stubborn bastard who, having no decent means of support, climbs to fight with an adversary who at this stage is too tough for him ...
      6. svp67
        svp67 21 February 2014 21: 01
        +1
        Quote: DanaF1
        this is an internet meme called ...
        In this rather necessary network there is a lot of "junk" that requires very painstaking work to find out the truth ...
        Quote: DanaF1
        denotes a stubborn bastard who, having no decent means of support, climbs to fight with an adversary who at this stage is too tough for him ...

        If you still do not understand, I will explain once again that this MYTH was invented in the department of Goebbels and using it, even allegorically you "pour water on the Nazi mill" and beg the feat of the soldiers of the anti-fascist coalition ... Are you a supporter of Goebbels?
        If you really want to use allegory, then say "attack of a brigade of light cavalry." This is where the British showed
        a stubborn bastard who, having no decent means of support, climbs to fight the enemy, who at this stage is too tough for him ...

        And about thirsty ... read at least here
        http://blog.i.ua/user/3209299/725226/
        The creation of this myth was greatly facilitated by fascist propaganda, which wanted to prove the "natural savagery" of the Poles, who tried using such archaic methods to fight a powerful machine - the creation of the military and technical genius of the German Reich.
        True facts expose the falsehood of these allegations. Indeed, in 1939, the Polish cavalry made at least six attacks on horseback, however, only two of them were marked by the presence of German armored vehicles (September 1 at Kroyanty) and tanks (September 19 at Vulka Venglova) on the battlefield, both episodes enemy armored vehicles were not the direct target of attacking lancers.
      7. svp67
        svp67 21 February 2014 21: 03
        -2
        It should be noted that in the Polish cavalry the horse attack (szarza) (1) was not then a regulated type of military operations. According to the “General Instructions for Combat” (Ogolnej instrukcji waiki), published back in 1930, the cavalry had to move in horseback, and fight on foot.
        The honor of conducting the first cavalry attack in the history of World War II belongs to the 18th regiment of Primorsky Lancers (2). The regiment consisted of 35 officers, more than 800 podofitser and privates, 850 horses, 2 anti-tank guns of a caliber of 37 mm (instead of 4 full-time), 12 anti-tank guns, 12 heavy machine guns (4 pack and 8 on carts), 18 light machine guns, 2 motorcycles with wheelchairs and 2 radio stations. On August 29, the 18nd battery of the 2th equestrian artillery battalion was given to the 11th regiment: 180 gunners, 248 horses, 4 light guns (with ammunition of 1440 shells) and 2 heavy machine guns.
        On August 31, 1939, Pomeranian ulans occupied a position near the border, along the highway leading from Chojnice to the south. On the morning of September 1, the regiment's guard posts reported that a strong enemy was moving on them (infantry and armored cars of the 76th motorized infantry regiment (3) of the 20th motorized infantry division (4) of the XNUMXth Panzer Corps of General Guderian). The immediate task of this division was to capture the city of Chojnice, and in the future it was supposed to advance through the Tuchola Wasteland and the city of Osh to Grudziadz.
        The guard posts of the 18th Uhlans regiment could not contain the onslaught of a much stronger enemy and retreated, having lost their commanders - the second lieutenants of Dembsky and Moscow, killed. The Germans rushed to the defensive line of Lancer, in front of which, however, they were detained by machine gun fire and anti-tank guns. At 5.45, an enemy aircraft began to circle the observation post and the position of the 2nd battery of the 11th horse-artillery division. By order of Captain Pasturchak, both battery machine guns (under the command of Underhand Karnkovsky) fired on this air target and hit it. A downed German plane crashed near the battery observation post, his pilot was killed and the navigator was seriously injured.
        The 76th Motorized Infantry Regiment, supported by armored vehicles, resumed its offensive soon, while threatening to bypass the left flank of the Lancer. The latter circumstance forced Colonel Mastalezha to start withdrawing his squadrons to a new line of defense in the Pavlovo-Ratslavka area at around 8.00:XNUMX.
        To avoid the encirclement of other retreating units of the Polish army, the commander of the defense district, Colonel Maevsky, in consultation with General Gzhmot-Skotnitsky, ordered Colonel Mastalezh, with part of the 18th Lancers, detached from the enemy, to counter-attack the German infantry in the vicinity of the village of Kroyanty.
        Having assessed the situation, the commander of the Pomeranian lancers ordered an equestrian maneuver detachment led by Major Maletsky (1st and 2nd squadrons and two platoons of the 3rd and 4th squadrons) through the villages of Krushki, Kroyanty and Pavlove to the rear of the German infantry, attack it, and then retreat to Granovo and further to the line of fortifications in the area of ​​Rytel, occupied by the Polish infantry.
        Having learned about this disposition and the order of Colonel Mastalezh, Lieutenant Tsydzik (communications officer of General Gzhmot-Skotnitsky) doubted the expediency of such a decision. “Wouldn't it be better, Pan Colonel, to advance on foot?” he asked anxiously. In the veins of Mastalezha the blood of an old soldier leaped. “Do not teach me, Pan Lieutenant, how to execute impossible orders,” he said with irritation in his voice. “That's right,” Tsydzik answered, but nevertheless contacted by phone with the head of the Chersk cover group and informed him of Mastalezh’s intentions.
      8. svp67
        svp67 21 February 2014 21: 04
        0
        After passing about 10 km, the division of Major Maletsky ended up in a forest near the village of Krushki, northeast of Kroyant. The time set for the start of the attack was approaching (19.00), and it was about 7 km to the original Pavlov area when the head outpost of the detachment discovered a battalion of German infantry, which was deployed 300-400 m from the forest edge. Major Maletsky decided to attack this enemy on horseback, using the effect of surprise. He built his division in two echelons: in front of the 1st squadron, and after him at a distance of 200 m the 2nd squadron. The number of both squadrons was then approximately 200 horsemen (5). Lancers dressed in field uniforms were armed with sabers and cavalry carbines (6). On their heads they had helmets of the French type (models of Hadrian).
        According to the old team "szable dion!" (sabers!) Lancers quickly and harmoniously laid bare blades, shining in the red rays of the setting sun. At that moment, when the squadrons famously deployed at the edge of the forest, Colonel Mastalezh appeared with his headquarters on their flank. Having caught up with Maletsky’s division, the regimental commander wanted to personally take part in the horse attack. Obeying the trumpet signal, the Lancers swiftly rushed towards the enemy, stunned by such an unexpected attack. The German battalion, which did not take proper precautions, was taken by surprise and scattered in a panic across the field.
        The cavalrymen, overtaking the fleeing, mercilessly chopped their sabers. However, this triumph of cavalry did not last long. Fascinated by their brilliant attack, the Poles did not notice several enemy armored vehicles hidden in the forest. Having left behind the trees, these armored vehicles opened frequent machine-gun fire on the flank of the galloping squadrons. Hidden in the thicket, the German cannon also began to shell the lantern. Dozens of horses and people fell from enemy bullets and shells ...
        Having suffered heavy losses, Major Maletsky’s division retreated beyond the nearest wooded ridge, where he took refuge from enemy fire. In addition to Colonel Mastalezh, two officers were killed (the commander of the 1st squadron, captain Shchishchevchak and the 2nd adjutant, second lieutenant of the reserve Miletsky) and 23 ulans. Lieutenant Anthony Unrug and about 50 Lancers were seriously injured. Only half of the riders participating in the attack gathered in the forest near the Chojnice – Rytel highway. Instead of the killed Colonel Mastalezh, the command over the regiment was taken by Major Maletsky.
        The battle of September 1, 1939 cost a lot to Pomeranian lancers, who lost up to 60% of their people and horses, 7 machine guns, 2 anti-tank guns and a radio station. However, these victims were not in vain. Thanks to the selfless actions of the regiment, including a dashing attack near Kroyant, an attempt was thwarted by the enemy, who had a large advantage in manpower and equipment, to cut off the retreat of the infantry of the Polish detachment "Chojnice" (last night gathered behind Brda and again organized a defense line there) .
        Returning to the equestrian attack near Kroyants, one should cite the lines of memoirs dedicated to her by the “father of German tank power” Guderian. “The Polish Pomeranian cavalry brigade, because of ignorance of the design data and methods of operation of our tanks,” wrote the famous Wehrmacht general, “attacked them with knives and suffered terrible losses,” facts already known to the reader of this article expose the falsehood of this quote, which turned 3 incomplete Polish squadron into an entire brigade, German armored cars into tanks, and 26 killed and 50 wounded Lancers into "monstrous losses." Such slander was maneuverable, well trained, and having excellent personnel, the cavalry of the 2nd Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth repeatedly denied on the battlefield. In the tragic days of September 1939, she worthily opposed a strong enemy and often defeated him, fighting both on foot and in horseback, and in defense and offensive
  • svp67
    svp67 21 February 2014 14: 34
    +2
    Quote: DanaF1
    I advise you very much, first carefully read what they write to you ...

    I read your call to "SUPPLY EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING", and I don't like it ...
  • Danafxnumx
    Danafxnumx 21 February 2014 14: 40
    0
    Quote: svp67
    I read your call to "SUPPLY EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING", and I don't like it ...

    Yes, I do not call for anything ...

    go already howl, if you so want, why are you sitting at the clave?

    you are brave here, but people in Ukraine are no longer so fun ...
  • svp67
    svp67 21 February 2014 20: 47
    0
    Quote: DanaF1
    go already howl, if you so want, why are you sitting at the clave?
    Young lady it is you "howling" here, and I will fulfill my duty and will not ask you ...
  • Corsair
    Corsair 21 February 2014 12: 42
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    This explosion will already be inside Russia itself, if we do not help.
    I don’t argue, the situation requires a solution, but remember the year 1914 and then under what slogans Russia entered the 1 World ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 13: 04
      0
      Quote: Corsair
      but remember the year 1914 and then under what slogans Russia entered the 1 World ...

      And who will Russia be in the eyes of the Russian people living in Ukraine, if we surrender them. How will they look at us in the world? Ukraine will not surrender, even under the threat of warriors.
      1. svp67
        svp67 21 February 2014 13: 43
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ukraine will not surrender, even under the threat of warriors.
        Oh, I'm afraid they might "sell" it ...
        1. smile
          smile 21 February 2014 17: 34
          +3
          svp67
          They did not sell Syria, so why should we sell Ukraine to us? I see no reason for such fears. The main thing is that in Ukraine there is a leadership, ready not to lie under the Nazis, who can be helped and who will not abandon it.
          1. svp67
            svp67 21 February 2014 21: 52
            +2
            Quote: smile
            They did not sell Syria, so why should we sell Ukraine to us?
            And who said that we wake to sell it? Ukraine is an independent state and it can do it itself, or rather already .... negative
            1. smile
              smile 21 February 2014 23: 25
              +1
              svp67
              That's right ... I agree ... Already ... Know it, dad, the error came out ... :)))
              The guys feel sorry for the Golden Eagle .... the leadership of the Crimea and the eastern regions ... and indeed of the people sold ... now the heads of real Ukrainians will fly, and not only figuratively ...
      2. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 21 February 2014 17: 52
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Corsair
        but remember the year 1914 and then under what slogans Russia entered the 1 World ...

        And who will Russia be in the eyes of the Russian people living in Ukraine, if we surrender them. How will they look at us in the world? Ukraine will not surrender, even under the threat of warriors.

        One hundred pounds.
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ukraine will not surrender, even under the threat of warriors.
        Oh, I'm afraid they might "sell" it ...

        Rather buy. As soon as the degree of confrontation drops, the Kremlin men will immediately come and begin to buy up politicians.
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  • tasey
    tasey 24 February 2014 12: 27
    0
    I have already spoken out for a long time: it is necessary to CHECK, let the Westerners "cook" in their porridge. The sooner this happens, the less blood will be ...
  • raf
    raf 21 February 2014 08: 17
    +3
    Hey, SHILO I did not write: "The only way out is to hand over power to them." am negative fool Please correct your comment! angry
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 08: 21
      +3
      Quote: raf
      Hey, SHILO, I did not write: "There is only one way out - to hand over power to them

      Yes, he just quoted, through you the text in the article.
      1. raf
        raf 21 February 2014 08: 38
        +9
        Yes, but it looks like I wrote it, which I really don't want! I strongly disagree with the fact that it is necessary to surrender power! In turn, you need to put things in order, it will not be too late at all! The farther the pull, the more victims there will be!
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 21 February 2014 09: 00
          +1
          Quote: raf
          In turn, you need to put things in order, it will not be too late at all!

          Well yes! The only question is by what methods? Our "oppa" is delighted! am
          The head of the Batkivshchyna faction, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, says that a meeting of the Foreign Ministers of the Faction, Germany and Poland with the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych is taking place.

          "This is practically a real European mediation. And with European mediation, we believe that we are able to work out an additional political plan for how to get out of this crisis," he told reporters on Thursday.

          “Everything here depends on Yanukovych - whether he will accept this plan,” he stressed.
          1. raf
            raf 21 February 2014 09: 54
            0
            Well yes! The only question is by what methods? Our "oppa" is delighted!


            Dear Fidget, if I knew, if I knew! Oh, I have no answer to this question! No.
          2. demel2
            demel2 21 February 2014 15: 25
            +1
            It seems that at these negotiations Yanukovych handed over Ukraine to Bandera for personal security and the integrity of the stolen dough and no one can do anything, neither Putin nor the Lord God. IMHO
      2. SHILO
        SHILO 21 February 2014 08: 46
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, he just quoted, through you the text in the article.


        Rough no offense !?
        Romanov explained everything without me - he simply quoted it unsuccessfully. drinks
        1. raf
          raf 21 February 2014 09: 43
          +4
          Apologies are accepted hi I do not hold evil drinks !
  • Gluxar_
    Gluxar_ 21 February 2014 08: 38
    +1
    Quote: SHILO
    So if you want peace, rent Kiev. This can at least stop the bloodshed. Another question, what will this lead to subsequently ...

    What is so immediately hands up - it is worth considering all the options.

    The Party of Regions is the same Bandera as the Fatherland. The people are betrayed by the authorities. The people themselves are to blame for their choice. Launching continues to sit at their sofas when the Nazis march along their streets. This is their choice. Or do they hope they come and smash all the brown mud again?
  • TUNISIA
    TUNISIA 21 February 2014 08: 46
    +28
    Whatever the current government is bad, it is legitimate today. Having surrendered power under pressure from Bandera, it means creating a very, very dangerous political precedent. You can’t surrender power, its change must take place in accordance with the current constitution and in due time!
    And one more thing: it doesn’t matter for what reasons the protesters are protesting - COOPS ARE NOT KILLING!
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 21 February 2014 08: 49
      +15
      And one more thing: it doesn’t matter for what reasons the protesters are protesting - COOPS ARE NOT KILLING!
      Yes!
      1. washi
        washi 21 February 2014 12: 01
        0
        Quote: Dormidont
        And one more thing: it doesn’t matter for what reasons the protesters are protesting - COOPS ARE NOT KILLING!

        In general, people should not be killed, but it depends on who is considered people.
        I have already met on several sites about the fact that they are being fed with Amer’s wheels for special forces (almost zombies).
        And since then they cannot be correctly taken out of trance (many months of treatment are required), then most of those operating on Maidan will soon be dead or disabled
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    3. Egoza
      Egoza 21 February 2014 09: 03
      +4
      Quote: TUNISIA
      Cops can not be killed!

      As a result of a fire in a military unit in Lviv, where the Berkut Interior Ministry unit was stationed, two policemen were killed. This was reported by the press service of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Lviv region. “On February 20, an explosion occurred at the base of the special police unit and a fire broke out. After the localization of the fire, the bodies of two employees of the "Golden Eagle" were found, ”the department notes. Now an investigative-operational group is working on the spot. All circumstances of the incident are established.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139293.html
      XXXX
      The guys actually burned alive !!!! And all because they did not leave part, like many others
    4. ReifA
      ReifA 21 February 2014 09: 08
      +5
      But they kill and no one is punished. And if no one is punished + "The Verkhovna Rada adopted a resolution according to which all power units must return to their places of deployment, they are prohibited from using weapons, and road blocking is prohibited. That is, the police must lay down their arms in front of the terrorists, leave the streets and leave Kiev armed gangs of militants. ", no matter how bitter it may be to say, they will continue to kill.
      1. Jin
        Jin 21 February 2014 10: 01
        +2
        Quote: ReifA
        "The Verkhovna Rada adopted a resolution according to which all power units must return to their places of deployment, they are prohibited from using weapons, and road closures are prohibited.


        I heard the same thing, but yesterday I heard something else, that "No one except the president can give an order on the use of the Armed Forces ..." Well, as I understand it, the opposite decisions are accordingly. This was said by one of the Rada deputies, from the Communists, in my opinion ... I understand this is the law. Somehow everything is very incomprehensible. Moreover, the quorum was barely collected and this decree was adopted, persons from the opposition, the Party of Regions refused to vote on this issue, so that ...
        1. aleks 62
          aleks 62 21 February 2014 12: 48
          +2
          The law, even if adopted, must be signed by the president. And now, on the podium in the Rada, Mr. Yatsenyuk is indignant at the fact that on what basis they issued weapons to law enforcement officers ... Bullshit ....
          1. Jin
            Jin 21 February 2014 12: 55
            0
            Quote: aleks 62
            The law, even if adopted, must be signed by the president.


            So why did the troops turn around? President signed?
      2. delfinN
        delfinN 21 February 2014 15: 03
        +2
        In the Sov. The union among criminals was like a taboo: you can’t kill cops, they will do everything to find and punish, and the rest will not be living and they can end their own later. And these criminals feel their impunity, hence even greater frostbite. It is necessary to legislate: put on a mask - violated the law. I’m not even talking about weapons.
    5. PSih2097
      PSih2097 21 February 2014 10: 26
      0
      Quote: TUNISIA
      Whatever the current government is bad, it is legitimate today. Having surrendered power under pressure from Bandera, it means creating a very, very dangerous political precedent.

      Well, and in Yugoslavia with Iraq and Libya with Syria wasn’t it the same? So what you indicated Political PRECEDENT It has already been created for a long time, it remains to wait for the actions of the leadership of the Russian Federation on the events taking place in Ukraine ...
      1. TUNISIA
        TUNISIA 21 February 2014 11: 06
        +1
        I said this in the prism of the fact that such a precedent is being created in a fraternal state bordering Russia. Look at the actions of the EU delegation: the transitional government, the appointment of re-election of parliament and the president. A hackneyed solution to a problem that the EU itself artificially created is nothing new in essence. It is annoying that the current situation is precisely with Russia, given the fact that in the same Russia, the population also has a very ambiguous attitude. It is dangerous if some destructive forces take a neighboring example as a model and try to implement it. Of course, this is the worst and only theoretical option ... but now Ukraine is not a good example to follow our extremals. I would not like to repeat such events on our territory. Of course, our country's leadership is more decisive than in Ukraine, and I am sure it will not allow any crisis to break out to the extent of armed confrontation between the population and the authorities.
        1. demel2
          demel2 21 February 2014 15: 36
          0
          Quote: TUNISIA
          I would not like to repeat such events on our territory.

          Swamp area, no?
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      3. Tiamat2702
        Tiamat2702 21 February 2014 12: 36
        0
        Quote: PSih2097
        So what you indicated Political PRECEDENT It has already been created for a long time, it remains to wait for the actions of the leadership of the Russian Federation on the events taking place in Ukraine ...

        ... "We'll live until Monday" .....
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    7. washi
      washi 21 February 2014 11: 54
      +1
      Quote: TUNISIA
      Having surrendered power under pressure from Bandera, it means creating a very, very dangerous political precedent. You can’t surrender power, its change must take place in accordance with the current constitution and in due time!

      Unfortunately, not everyone understands this in the West. Or maybe on the contrary, they understand too much, given them, tougher laws against unlawful manifestations.
      FinesFines
    8. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 21 February 2014 17: 58
      +1
      Quote: TUNISIA
      Whatever the current government is bad, it is legitimate today. Having surrendered power under pressure from Bandera, it means creating a very, very dangerous political precedent. You can’t surrender power, its change must take place in accordance with the current constitution and in due time!
      And one more thing: it doesn’t matter for what reasons the protesters are protesting - COOPS ARE NOT KILLING!

      The current government is incapable, it is just a screen for local oligarchs. Of course, the Russian people pay for everything. I am glad that this time the Russian Federation remained true to its position of non-interference and stopped financial aid. It is not profitable for Russia to support an asshole, even if it is “his own”, at least in such an important country as Ukraine.

      We need to look at what the South-East of Ukraine will do and if a truly pro-Russian politician appears to support him. It is not even worth negotiating with Yanukovych, maximum consultation.
  • domokl
    domokl 21 February 2014 09: 05
    +5
    Quote: SHILO
    What is so immediately hands up - it is worth considering all the options.

    But the options had to be considered earlier. At the moment, the security forces and the army are in complete disarray. Especially after the adoption of the mentioned resolution.
    The development of events will be according to the bloody scenario .. Those who go along with the maydauns will remain alive ... The rest will cut their throats peacefully and that's it ... None of the ministers and commanders of the security forces (not only the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but also the SBU, the army) are capable now take responsibility and take command of those who are ready to fight. A bag of ... shit ... pah, bran in the presidential chair will not give up power today or tomorrow. He and his associates in the West were blocked by oxygen with bills and other stash .. . And that means nowhere to run ...
    At about the same time, the western and eastern regions of Ukraine will announce their disobedience to Kiev ... Power will pass to local authorities ... Accordingly, we know the orientation.
    But the worst should start in the Crimea. There, too, they will pass a decree on the refusal of Yanukovych and Kiev in general, but this will open the way for the Tatar separatists. There will also be a massacre ...
    The author is right, the Rubicon is passed and there is no turning back. Only blood in any case.
    1. Adzhimushkay
      Adzhimushkay 21 February 2014 16: 43
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      But the worst should start in the Crimea. There, too, they will pass a decree on the refusal of Yanukovych and Kiev in general, but this will open the way for the Tatar separatists. There will also be a massacre ...

      Hardly. I live in the Crimea. Many familiar Tatars. Quite decent and very hardworking people. I will not say bad. And separatists can be of any nationality.
      And yet, you can’t imagine what kind of hatred is boiling now in the south and east. You know how distilled water does not boil at 110 degrees, but it is worth adding a gram of anything loose and an explosive process begins. So there’s no need to fight for us, but help is very necessary. Support is needed. Russia help.
  • alexdol
    alexdol 21 February 2014 10: 20
    +5
    SHILO (1) UA "That hands up at once - it is worth considering all the options."
    -------------------------------------------------- ----------------------
    What options can there be! There is nothing to consider here. Here's what Yanukovych could have done to somehow rehabilitate himself in front of the southeast: the dispersal and arrest of the entire Verkhovna Rada, the leaders of the so-called "OPPOSITION" together with Yulka - to try a quick trial and SHOOT / can be shot without a trial /, introduce an emergency all over the country, untie the military and Berkut's hands by giving the command to use all types of weapons!
    After which: PRESS AND PRESS the remaining Bendery READER!
    And about the stolen money, stored in Western banks, I would advise Yanukovych to forget, then maybe he will become more decisive ...
    1. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 21 February 2014 10: 47
      +4
      Quote: alexdol
      And about the stolen money, stored in Western banks, I would advise Yanukovych to forget, then maybe he will become more decisive ...

      This is 99% the cause of indecision, another 1% is humanism
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  • washi
    washi 21 February 2014 11: 25
    +2
    Quote: SHILO
    So if you want peace, rent Kiev. This can at least stop the bloodshed. Another question, what will it lead to subsequently ... What is so immediately hands up - it is worth considering all the options.

    For Kiev, Moscow paid Poland 200 zlotys (000 thousand rubles), according to the contract of 146 and was executed by the “Eternal Peace” 1667 (http://www.hrono.ru/dokum/1686dok/1600andr.php).
    Therefore, before handing over Kiev, give money at the beginning, or return this settlement.
    And in general, what is the tradition of late: giving traditionally Russian lands?
  • Tiamat2702
    Tiamat2702 21 February 2014 11: 44
    0
    Quote: SHILO
    Quote: raf
    There is only one way out - to surrender to them power.


    So if you want peace, rent Kiev. This can at least stop the bloodshed. Another question, what will this lead to subsequently ...

    What is so immediately hands up - it is worth considering all the options.


    It will not stop this bloodshed. These creatures will be cleansed throughout the country by Russian and pro-Russian Ukrainians. And, oh my God, what a YANUKOVICH MIRACLE (in the letter M) !!!!
  • thinking
    thinking 21 February 2014 13: 26
    +1
    It's a shame to snot, but this is most likely the most realistic option. There is no Leader on our side who would send to x .. rats from the Supreme Rada and would restore order among the ball. According to the mood - eastern Ukraine is furious with the fascism taking place in Kiev and, as usual, there are no commanders
    1. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 21 February 2014 13: 31
      +1
      Quote: thinking
      It's a shame to snot, but this is most likely the most realistic option. There is no Leader on our side who would send to x .. rats from the Supreme Rada and would restore order among the ball. According to the mood - eastern Ukraine is furious with the fascism taking place in Kiev and, as usual, there are no commanders

      Pick up Rogozin
    2. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 21 February 2014 13: 31
      0
      Quote: thinking
      It's a shame to snot, but this is most likely the most realistic option. There is no Leader on our side who would send to x .. rats from the Supreme Rada and would restore order among the ball. According to the mood - eastern Ukraine is furious with the fascism taking place in Kiev and, as usual, there are no commanders

      Pick up Rogozin
    3. uizik
      uizik 21 February 2014 22: 46
      0
      Yes sir! No commanders! And those that were even earlier were eliminated by orange!
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  • v53993
    v53993 21 February 2014 22: 25
    0
    It is worth considering all the options.

    Of course it’s worth, but first roll up the supporters of geyevropy into the asphalt. It’s not difficult, believe the specialist.
  • jjj
    jjj 21 February 2014 08: 06
    +9
    I thought for a long time what is the reason for the "indecision" of the Ukrainian authorities. And a certain picture began to emerge. The people, including those in the east, cannot stand Yanukovych. And he's not going to defend him. The troops, according to the testimony of the Ukrainians themselves, are beggars, incapable of fighting with a thriving universal theft. There are several combat-ready special forces units. But half of the personnel there are Westerners. Speaking of weapons and ammunition. In the western regions, it turns out, there is a lot of it in military depots. Nobody took out anything in advance. And this, as once in Chechnya, became a gift for the Banderaites. The troops and militia, which went over to the side of the terrorists, consisting of the same Westerners, only added strength to the attacking side.
    So, the song of Yanukovych, as we understand, has already been sung. Part of the encirclement according to the Iraqi scenario is being sold to the enemy, "why should this godfather be sorry". What about the rest of the environment? Who to lean on? And it is necessary that against the background of Bandera atrocities the eastern people should be brutalized and, taking up arms, swept away the fascists. Then Yanukovych has a chance against the background of this force. The main thing is that the people themselves should rise. And he can rise only when the number of victims is large. That is why, as it is thought, the authorities connive
    1. alex-s
      alex-s 21 February 2014 08: 39
      +13
      I think the southeast needs a new normal leader! For example, the same governor of the Kharkov region. But Yanukovych needs to be drained in any way, only so that Bender’s power is not seized.
      1. Orik
        Orik 21 February 2014 09: 04
        +8
        Quote: alex-s
        I think the southeast needs a new normal leader! For example, the same governor of the Kharkov region. But Yanukovych needs to be drained in any way, only so that Bender’s power is not seized.

        Yes, understand, they are all mated there, there are no normal ones. In the east, besides the common memory of the brotherhood with Russia, there is nothing. Bendera mobilized over the past 20-25 years, over the years, the State Department pumped 15 (!!!) billions of greenery into ideology, training, education and equipping militants, they provide roof for militants, information support, and more. You see something similar from Russia, Russians in Russia are on bird’s rights.
    2. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 21 February 2014 08: 43
      +11
      Quote: jjj
      So, the song of Yanukovych, as we understand, has already been sung. Part of the encirclement according to the Iraqi scenario is being sold to the enemy, "why should this godfather be sorry". What about the rest of the environment? Who to lean on? And it is necessary that against the background of Bandera atrocities the eastern people should be brutalized and, taking up arms, swept away the fascists. Then Yanukovych has a chance against the background of this force. The main thing is that the people themselves should rise. And he can rise only when the number of victims is large. That is why, as it is thought, the authorities connive

      Who has risen? Ukrainians or Russians in Ukraine? YES they will sit until the last, even when their relatives start cutting heads. This is already happening and what is the answer? 20 pensioners at the monument? Today is the moment of truth for Russians in Ukraine. You will not organize and begin to act decisively in your fields and tomorrow you will be swept away and the zapadents will put their supporters in power. And even if some come to their senses and take to the streets, they will not calve with them, they will kill them like cattle and call them terrorists and Kremlin agents. You profiled your chance.
  • Orel
    Orel 21 February 2014 08: 07
    +18
    The West is putting pressure on Russia, but this is not their victory, it is their misfortune. History The West apparently does not teach anything, although they very often rewrite and forget it. Approaching NATO to our borders, the West has been putting pressure on the spring for more than 20 years, which is becoming increasingly compressed. Then when this spring will straighten and drive all the nationalists, fascists and others to the West it is only a matter of time. The West does not understand that entering into such a confrontation one must keep in mind the opportunity to go to the very end and risk one’s well-being and affluence. Russia is sure that it’s ready to take risks, but I have big doubts that the West is ready to do the same. There is only one conclusion - do not sit down to play poker if you are not sure that you are ready to go all-in ... They sat down and took cards, but they are NOT capable of playing EVERYTHING, so defeat is inevitable, the only question is time ...
    1. Arbatov
      Arbatov 21 February 2014 08: 25
      +10
      Russia sure is ready to take a chance

      WHAT Russia is ready to take a chance? We are - yes, ready. Most members of the forum - yes, they are ready. What about the authorities? And the authorities - non-interference, b.
      1. Wellych
        Wellych 21 February 2014 08: 34
        +3
        Well, Putin is like a judoka, not a boxer.
        1. Lapotnik
          Lapotnik 21 February 2014 09: 45
          +1
          Putin is a liberal. While the West was developing scenarios for the collapse of the states from within, our politicians sawed loot. And now they have non-interference, as they simply don’t know what to do.
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      2. Horst78
        Horst78 21 February 2014 09: 12
        +6
        And the authorities - non-interference
        or calculation. Ukraine is not Syria. For Russia, every deceased resident of Ukraine (Bandera does not count) is a deceased resident of Russia. This is Our Earth and Our People.
      3. alexng
        alexng 21 February 2014 09: 26
        +8
        Do not hurry. It’s not yet evening, or even twilight. On Monday, the fun begins ...
        1. Chemicalin23
          Chemicalin23 21 February 2014 10: 40
          +1
          Yes, God forbid, that this most interesting thing has come! We have nowhere to pull further, or we will get this plague right at our side!
        2. demel2
          demel2 21 February 2014 16: 11
          0
          Quote: alexneg
          Do not hurry. It’s not yet evening or even twilight. From Monday, the fun begins.

          There are a lot of expectations. This is where the olympiad will end, all sisters are earrings. There are ready-made recipes, what should we do in this situation?
      4. alexng
        alexng 21 February 2014 09: 26
        0
        Do not hurry. It’s not yet evening, or even twilight. On Monday, the fun begins ...
        1. demel2
          demel2 21 February 2014 16: 22
          +1
          Quote: alexneg
          Do not hurry. It’s not yet evening or even twilight. On Monday, the fun begins.

          Until Monday, Janek will hand over Ukraine to Europe with Bandera. And we are all waiting for the Olympics to end. And if our powers that be do not come up with anything, but there is a feeling that they will not come up with anything, then there will be no faith for us, and Belarus, Kazakhstan or Russia will be next. choose for yourself. IMHO
      5. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 21 February 2014 18: 07
        +2
        Quote: Arbatov
        WHAT Russia is ready to take a chance? We are - yes, ready. Most members of the forum - yes, they are ready. What about the authorities? And the authorities - non-interference, b.

        The only correct solution in this situation. There are no pro-Russian forces in Ukraine. The fact that we call them "brotherly people" is not the same as they call us "Muscovites".
        What is happening today in Ukraine is actually a big victory for Russia. History will put everything in place, you just have to wait a bit.
        Russia has been repeating the same mistake for 25 years; it paid Ukraine for loyalty in some issues. While Ukrainian ideology itself was anti-Russian.

        Today, perhaps after all the "charms" of the peace process and after Yanukovych finally discredited himself, a truly "Russian party" may appear in Ukraine, which will never accept Westernism and fascism. If such a force appears, then it is precisely it that will need to be maintained.

        If Russia were active and took concrete "forceful" steps to suppress this process, then the same Banderaites and the same corrupt and anti-Russian deputies of the same Party of Regions would have remained in power. But the Russian Federation should have fed all this rag-tag in a difficult 2014.

        Today the cards are open and the true picture is emerging. Ukraine is saturated with fascism and Russophobia, the authorities sold themselves to the West for a long time, and the fact that they covered themselves with the flags of the PR does not mean anything. As the time has come to test a person in practice, he surrenders his mandate or leaves the party for the sake of his personal interests. The USA and the EU have pumped billions of dollars and euros into the creation of youth fascist movements, but these people do not know how to work and produce something useful. Ukraine has sold all its reserves for 20 years, so today there is nothing to plunder, so if the economy is not started, then the Banderaites will have nothing to eat.
        It’s important not to subsidize them.
    2. Lapotnik
      Lapotnik 21 February 2014 09: 41
      +4
      While you will read these mantras about the inability of the West to do something real, they will shoot you at your doorstep. As done before with half the world. And they are doing this in Ukraine already in the open. Western politicians have long been impudently saying what to do to political prostitutes Ukrainian.

      They were so self-confident. Strong leaders would have jailed all this trash long ago. Venezuela simply suppressed the protests in the bud and will continue to press. And Ukraine ... and so everything is clear, negotiations on surrender with the West are already underway, Russia was pushed aside - they said they would not interfere, so do not interfere. While Russian politicians are chewing snot, the West is pressing hard with might and main. And here you sing mantras. It is strange that they have not yet announced the Kremlin's "supermodels".
      PS West is not a stupid person and understands everything perfectly - they didn’t take it by open war, they will take it from the inside.
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    4. demel2
      demel2 21 February 2014 16: 07
      0
      Quote: Orel
      Then when this spring straightens and drives to the West

      So far, this spring is pressing very hard on Russia, and no matter how it straightens in our direction.
  • PANZER
    PANZER 21 February 2014 08: 50
    +13
    Quote: raf
    It seems the war has all the same begun

    Moreover, the war is not against Ukraine, but against Russia.
    1. Dezot
      Dezot 21 February 2014 11: 54
      +3
      It is obvious. Ukraine in it is just a bargaining chip.
      1. PANZER
        PANZER 21 February 2014 12: 09
        0
        Quote: Dezot
        small coin.

        To the point
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  • Dimonanet
    Dimonanet 21 February 2014 09: 32
    +1
    It looks like this tactic will now:
    Yanukovych will fulfill all the requirements of Geyropa and the USA!
    They said to remove BB and Millicia, let him clean!
    Let's see what happens after that! continue ... pogroms ... fires ... robberies ... killings !!!
    Then we ask directly to the forehead of all these freaks what to do next ???
    And we will transfer all responsibility for this batch to GEYROPU AND USA !!!
    Clearly designating them as stupidly fleshy policies and enemies !!!
  • Cappit
    Cappit 21 February 2014 11: 40
    +2
    Across the scorched plain
    Meter meter
    Go to Ukraine
    The soldiers of the group "Center".
    1. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 21 February 2014 12: 01
      0
      Quote: Cappit
      They are walking across Ukraine Soldiers of the Center group.

      Yes, Vysotsky sang like that, but he was a little mistaken ... the soldiers of the South group were there, but not in rhyme. But this did not make the song worse ... with great respect for Vladimir Semenovich.
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    3. viktorR
      viktorR 21 February 2014 13: 17
      +2
      For some reason, I also remembered this song by Vysotsky (((
      Especially looking at the Maidan I remembered the lines:
      And before us everything blooms
      everything burns behind us
      don't think
      with us that
      who will decide everything for us

      That would end it the same as in the song:
      On the "first-second" calculate!
      First second...
      First step forward! - and to heaven.
      First second...
      And every second is also a hero, -
      Heaven will go after you.
  • demel2
    demel2 21 February 2014 12: 53
    0
    Apparently, the war has already been lost. Read the last paragraph. And it is lost not only by the Ukrainians, but by all of us. IMHO
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  • URAL72
    URAL72 21 February 2014 15: 40
    +4
    The Olympiad simply ends, and the kind bear can turn into a terrible Russian bear ... So they are in a hurry, they started shooting in order to paralyze the government with the help of the West, while substituting Russia. I no longer think about the expulsion of the three Bendery regions, it is necessary to save (for Russia) at least the southeast, and then the map will fall. I would like to save Kiev too, - after all, the "mother of Russian cities", besides, there are still a lot of powerful institutions and design bureaus here, - they will be useful to us, and the Westerners will weaken ... We are still ready for war, - but we need your help - to cut off the West from Kiev, shut them up and not let them command here, the rest is ourselves.
  • cdrt
    cdrt 22 February 2014 02: 51
    0
    PPC A country called Ukraine.
    Through the efforts of the criminal Yanyk Europe and the states still managed to unleash a civil war in Ukraine.
    although the fellows themselves themselves - the nation should have at least some instinct for self-preservation - even the president and behold, but the riot, in which the country will inevitably be torn to pieces to maintain - madness.
    Although ... perhaps this is explained by the fact that in Ukraine there are actually two peoples and three cultures: Westerners and Ukrainians /, and cultures - southeast and south Russian, the center - Ukrainian and westerner.
  • svskor80
    svskor80 21 February 2014 07: 59
    +22
    What is happening in Kiev is just some kind of surrealism. A gang of rabid Gopnik zapadentsev is kicking the life of an entire country and no one is against it. Horror.
    1. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 21 February 2014 08: 47
      0
      Quote: svskor80
      What is happening in Kiev is just some kind of surrealism. A gang of rabid Gopnik zapadentsev is kicking the life of an entire country and no one is against it. Horror.

      As all events are not sad and tragic, I think we should not interfere. Let them figure it out, and with the winners we will talk like with any other partner. There should not be any more help, all according to the laws of the market and competition.
      We often talk about fraternal people and Russians in Ukraine, that we need to support the brothers ... and where are they? Russians will not sit idly by when Satanists and fascists smash their home and homeland. And in the East, everyone sitting in a rag is silent. We do not need such brothers. Maybe it's time for them to get acquainted with reality, maybe sober up.
      1. Zamachus
        Zamachus 21 February 2014 09: 45
        0
        I completely agree I have written more than once that the brothers ended 20 years ago and now this is another country; let them figure out what kind of power they need and we should not get into the Serbs; we didn’t help and live and many people work in Russia with crested
        1. Lapotnik
          Lapotnik 21 February 2014 09: 49
          +8
          You ... Brothers can disperse even to different planets, but they will not stop being brothers from this. While Russia did not intervene for these 20 years, the West actively set our neighbors against us. And there is no need for illusions.

          And about us, you shouldn’t get in there - give part of the apartment to a German, let him hold your wife or daughter for the house, and sit and cut coupons.
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          3. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 21 February 2014 18: 14
            0
            Quote: Lapotnik
            You ... Brothers can disperse even to different planets, but they will not stop being brothers from this. While Russia did not intervene for these 20 years, the West actively set our neighbors against us. And there is no need for illusions.

            And about us, you shouldn’t get in there - give part of the apartment to a German, let him hold your wife or daughter for the house, and sit and cut coupons.

            Why do we need brothers who allow themselves to be customized. This brother is the one who is equal to you, and not the litter that lies under those who give more.

            Want to get in? Get in yourself. Why is this couch bragging? Something smacks of your comment as "Ukrainism" somehow ... there, too, "men" are sitting and shouting that they will soon chase all this brown neobandershin ... but they just don't take their ass off the sofa. Do they want the Russian guys to do everything for them again? First, blood was shed for them on their own land, then the economy was restored to the detriment of their own. And they gave more money ... then the brothers will finally rip their ass off ... the Russians will be honored ...
            We don't need such rags. If a bloody massacre begins and the Russians of the southeast emerge victorious from it, then we will accept them as equals. And today's rags let them understand their independence. if the behests of the ancestors and the memory of their fathers are "not in the hryvnia", then this is their choice. And the fewer such dummies there are, the better the whole Russian world.
            1. Lapotnik
              Lapotnik 22 February 2014 20: 48
              0
              The whole Russian world ... You are not a man. You said in your own word - let the loved one die, and I will not help him. He is right, wrong, wrong or not, you fucking ... fuck. You know, you didn’t starve to the campaign, you were always fortunate and you were always on top. And even in this case, I see no excuses for your words. I just warn you right away - there will be no conversation. I will hit right away.
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 22 February 2014 21: 06
                0
                Quote: Lapotnik
                The whole Russian world


                While we hear Cut moskale
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        4. Tiamat2702
          Tiamat2702 21 February 2014 13: 02
          +2
          Quote: Zamachus
          I completely agree I have written more than once that the brothers ended 20 years ago and now this is another country; let them figure out what kind of power they need and we should not get into the Serbs; we didn’t help and live and many people work in Russia with crested

          Guys, you are now similar to the maydanuts in your political myopia: if the reasons for what is happening in Ukraine now were in Ukraine itself, then there is no doubt that we have nothing to do there. But only a blind man does not see that in this case, for centuries, the smoldering sparks of the peculiarities of the "Ukrainian mentality" were very competently ignited by some people in a fire, trying to blow up Russia. And therefore - we will not take care of fire-prevention measures in Russia, we will also flare up!
        5. viktorR
          viktorR 21 February 2014 13: 27
          +1
          At such a pace, Siberia will soon be no kin to you, and Stalingrad will be in another state. And the borders of your "state" will be outside the Moscow Ring Road. If you still have it, then the state.
      2. washi
        washi 21 February 2014 12: 27
        +1
        Quote: Gluxar_
        We often talk about fraternal people and Russians in Ukraine, that we need to support the brothers ..

        There is no people, there is a Russian nationality living on the outskirts of the Russian state.
        I cannot call them fraternal. Brothers help each other. And these also helped, moreover officially, but our enemies. It is not worth talking about all the wars in the Caucasus, where these "brothers" were noted. About life in the Russian Federation in the 90s too. And where is the help of these "brothers"? They ate, steal the heritage of both the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR, created generations of monsters who believe in the great ukrov and rebelled.
        They already passed it in the 17th century, together with Poland. This era in Poland is still called the Ruin.
        We will protect ourselves, but I do not know about the population of the outskirts (or, as Ukrainians say, the center of Europe) and geyrops.
        After all, they hate the gay people no less. They made them take out pots, engage in prostitution, etc. And most importantly - the Europeans TAKE THEM FOR RUSSIANS.
  • Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 21 February 2014 07: 59
    +18
    Yanukovych taught modern history very poorly. Therefore, I repeated everything up to a single error of the GKChP.
    He put "vovanov" in the position of the Riga OMON of 1991, but only in his own country .... wiseRila, oh wiseRila ... am
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 21 February 2014 08: 00
    +11
    from the Don.
    Thanks to the author! Trouble, trouble came to Ukraine!
    1. washi
      washi 21 February 2014 12: 39
      +3
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      from the Don.
      Thanks to the author! Trouble, trouble came to Ukraine!

      For what they fought, they got it.
      We have already passed it.
      If they do not know how to learn from their mistakes and from strangers, then they are completely stupid and do not have the right to exist not only as a separate state, but also as separate human individuals.
      And to the conversation that the Galicians in Kiev were dying equally with the people of Kiev, etc. - here's a little list to that extra came out ...
      Quote: 1. Digdalovich Andrei Ivanovich 03.06.1973/XNUMX/XNUMX Lviv region, the village of Sokolniki Pustomitovsky district - knew her shepherd Yuri
      2. Vaida Bogdan Ivanovich 28.04.1965/XNUMX/XNUMX Drogobych district, the village of Summer Lviv region
      3. Scherbanyuk Alexander Nikolaevich 02.01.1968 city of Chernivtsi
      4. Tour (Blok) Ivan Ivanovich 21.07.1973/XNUMX/XNUMX Lviv region city town
      5. Zherebny Vladimir Nikolaevich 06.10.1985/XNUMX/XNUMX the village of Cherry, Gorodotsky district-Lviv region
      6. Solchanik Bogdan Zinovievich city of Old Sambir 25.07.1985/XNUMX/XNUMX Lviv region
      7. Saenko Andrey Stepanovich 1962, Fastov
      8. Movchan Andrey Sergeevich 1980 Kiev Svyatoshino, Victory Avenue 91
      9. Kostenko Igor Igorevich 31.12. 1991 Ternopil region: Buchach district, Zubrets village
      10. Bondarchuk Sergey Mikhailovich, 09.09.1961 a native of the village Ladichі, Starkon. District city strakonstantinіv street Vokzalnaya 15 - assistant to the people's deputy
      12. Tochin Roman, born in 1969, Lviv region, Zhadachivsky district, the city of Khodoriv str. July 16, a gunshot wound to the head.
      13. Shcherbanyuk Alexander Nikolaevich, 02.08.1968/17/XNUMX Chernivtsi Shevchenko district, Independence Ave. XNUMXb
      14. Oponasyuk Valery Adamovich, 20.05.1971 city of Rivne
      15. Polyansky Leonid Petrovich, about 35 years old
      16 Baidovskiy Sergey Romanovich
      17 Kotsyuba Vitaliy Nikolaevich 07.07.1982/XNUMX/XNUMX city of Lviv
      18 Grinevich Eduard Mikhailovich 31.05.1985/XNUMX/XNUMX Volyn region, Lyubeshevsky district, the village of Derebon
      19 Complaint Andrey Grigoryevich 13.03.1980/XNUMX/XNUMX year of birth Lviv
      20 Smolyansky Vitaliy Vitalievich. Furmany village of Uman district of Cherkasy region.
      21 Voitovich Nazar Yurevich
      22 Kemtsky Sergey, 1981
      Anizhedeti, many of whom are older than me.
      M Kerch,
      23 Arutyunov Georgy Rovno
      24 Khrapachenko Alexander Vladimirovich, 18.09.1987/XNUMX/XNUMX
      Rivne city, Volyn division street 11-a kV 72
      http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/pol...ovenyi-v-kyeve
      Also 4 not installed
      anizhedeti, how can I?
  • mountain
    mountain 21 February 2014 08: 01
    +7
    You Ukrainians have always had a choice, it is now. Take like-minded people and protect your interests.
    1. washi
      washi 21 February 2014 12: 55
      -1
      Quote: mountain
      You Ukrainians have always had a choice, it is now. Take like-minded people and protect your interests.

      The Ukrainians (residents of the outskirts of Russia) had only two choices either for Russia or for a neighboring state.
      Although the Cossacks managed to immediately go under several.
      So it went on.
      I recommend a brief history of the outskirts: http: //flibusta.net/b/328568/read
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 21 February 2014 13: 38
      +1
      Quote: mountain
      You Ukrainians have always had a choice, it is now. Take like-minded people and protect your interests.

      In order to protect their interests in this situation, WEAPONS are needed, which the vast majority do not have ...
    3. zzz
      zzz 21 February 2014 14: 38
      +2
      Quote: mountain
      You Ukrainians have always had a choice, it is now. Take like-minded people and protect your interests


      I read, listen, look, get angry, hate .... and in the end I come to the conclusion: I DO NOT SORRY KIEVLYAN !!! THEY DESERVED IT !!! You can minus me, ban me, and all sorts of "for" ... It's no longer a pity .. I feel sorry for the EAST AND THE CRIMEAN THERE RUSSIAN, Native. And those who say that the east is silent are not right. They will not let the Bandera supporters in silence! And if they come there, then there will be just a partisan war! An eternal war!
  • dojjdik
    dojjdik 21 February 2014 08: 01
    +3
    whipping up hysteria? about "rams" is said well; and the state agents then spread their network throughout Ukraine during the reign of "democrats" Yushchenko and Yulka-pigtails
  • Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 21 February 2014 08: 02
    +4
    It seems that the end of the Sochi Olympics will be remembered for a long time in connection with the aggravation of events in Ukraine ... I just don’t understand why Moscow didn’t take adequate measures before, the GRU and the FSB probably knew that a mass rally using firearms was being prepared ... WHY didn’t take action ???
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 21 February 2014 08: 08
      +7
      Our FSB has been dealing with other issues for a long time, for a long time they don’t care about any Ukraine ...
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 21 February 2014 08: 24
        +2
        Oh, I said it out loud ...
        1. washi
          washi 21 February 2014 13: 25
          +1
          Quote: klimpopov
          Oh, I said it out loud ...

          Do not forget to spit and ask the Earth (planet) for forgiveness. (you can from a Jewish man, but only in places praying by "pagans" (churches built on the site of temples)
          The church does not support the Olympics, because it is worship of pagan gods.
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    3. TELEMARK
      TELEMARK 21 February 2014 08: 16
      +4
      Because there are a lot of sheep. [Quote = Hort] Yesterday I talked with a friend who lives in Kiev. He says that our (Russian) media are lying, that the people there stand "for freedom and against arbitrariness" ... Either they really believe, or they are brainwashed ... Because you start to explain things so obvious from the outside - there is only one excuse: you then we'll figure it out for ourselves, it's all a lie, etc.
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 21 February 2014 08: 25
        -16%
        Quote: TELEMARK
        Yesterday I talked with a friend who lives in Kiev. He says that our (Russian) media are lying, that the people there stand "for freedom and against arbitrariness" ... Either they really believe, or they are brainwashed ...

        There is another option, you have been brainwashed, so you don’t perceive the words of your comrade, they are at odds with the Russian media.
        1. Wellych
          Wellych 21 February 2014 08: 38
          +9
          There is also the option that in Iraq and Libya, people pray six times a day for democracy. And the prophet is the USA. But it is treated with the right medicine.
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 21 February 2014 10: 53
            0
            Quote: Wellych
            But it is treated with the right medicine.

            Lobotomy or something?
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        2. Egoza
          Egoza 21 February 2014 10: 50
          0
          Quote: Nayhas
          There’s another option, you’ve been brainwashed,

          Well yes! But Svidomo without any media humiliate dissenters!
          “Vinnitsa residents say that for two days in a row they have met people drenched in green paint near the city markets on the streets of the city.” The woman walked and cried, and her husband calmed her down. She was in a hood, but I noticed that the woman's face was covered with green paint, ”says a medical student about the Harvest he saw nearby. In social networks, residents write that Thus revolutionaries force market sellers to throw their "shells" and go to the city center - to protest actions. Those who refuse are given green paint."
          Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139265.html
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        4. Tiamat2702
          Tiamat2702 21 February 2014 13: 29
          +2
          Quote: Nayhas
          There is another option, you have been brainwashed, so you don’t perceive the words of your comrade, they are at odds with the Russian media.


          How do they diverge? You read Lenta.ru, there is a lot of maydanutye - well done, security officials and "regionals" - bastards. A living example: last night I watched the program of V. Solovyov, where one of the guests was the "regional" Oleg Tsarev. With my own ears, I heard him say: "I'm not going to run away from Ukraine anywhere. And if it doesn't work out today, then tomorrow morning I'll return to Kiev." Less than 15 minutes after the end of Solovyov's broadcast, Lenta.ru published a quote from the tweeter of one of the Ukrainian maidanut mummies, where she claimed that Tsarev's words were as follows: “I’m not going to run away from Ukraine, but .... and I’m not going back there. will "Find 10 differences.
          1. Nayhas
            Nayhas 22 February 2014 00: 51
            +1
            Quote: Tiamat2702
            How do they diverge? You read Lenta.ru, there is a lot of maydanutye - well done, security officials and "regionals" - bastards.

            I didn’t touch the bad-good question. A person comparing the words of the event participant and the data of the domestic media (Channel Russia, Channel 1) and wonders if the participants in the events are brainwashed, which suggests that he himself does not perceive the TELEMARK version of the official acrome official. According to the logic of things, TELEMARK called a friend whom he trusts because it was from her that he was going to find out about the situation in Kiev, but having received a version that differs from the official one, he had doubts not to the official version, but to a direct witness to the events. Those. a person judging the situation in Kiev, according to official media, does not perceive first-hand information, moreover, he has a question about brainwashing without realizing (a riddle) what the media are doing ...
            Maybe a little tricky happened, but I hope you will understand.
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 21 February 2014 10: 47
        +1
        Quote: TELEMARK
        He says that our (Russian) media are lying, that the people there stand "for freedom and against arbitrariness."

        Advise her to the Ukrainian media. However, many "intellectuals" who enthusiastically supported Yushchenko and stood then on that Maidan, only outwardly resigned themselves, and now they are helping the Maidan. They are mostly grant-eaters, the US is quite happy with them, Since they "don't appreciate" here, it will be better there !!! THEM!! The people do not care.
    4. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 21 February 2014 08: 25
      +5
      Quote: Scandinavian
      WHY DID NOT TAKE ACTION ???

      Maybe because Ukraine is already twenty years an independent state? wink
      1. Egor-dis
        Egor-dis 21 February 2014 09: 11
        +2
        Which absolutely does not prevent the West from openly dictating its will and taking measures for its implementation.
        1. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 21 February 2014 10: 07
          +2
          What is a violation of the Budapest Protocols of 1994 on security guarantees for Ukraine in exchange for a nuclear-free status. wink
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 21 February 2014 10: 51
            +2
            and when did it stop the west? They will need to rewrite the Bible. Do not you believe these agreements, forget, what is written with a pen .......... they always do, because it is beneficial for them.
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        3. washi
          washi 21 February 2014 13: 28
          -2
          The incident occurred in the metro area Beresteyskaya
          The guards of the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of France, Poland and Germany were mistaken for aunts and detained.
          Vice Speaker Ruslan Koshulinsky announced this from the rostrum, writes "Ukrainian Truth".
          "A few hours ago, while on duty to ensure the security of ambassadors of foreign states, namely the foreign ministers of France, Germany and Poland, officers of the State Security Department of Ukraine were detained, who were mistaken for titushki," he said.
          According to him, this happened in the metro area Beresteyskaya.
          "The vehicles on which they traveled were disfigured," he added.
          Koszulinsky asked to avoid such problems in the future, "in order to avoid an international scandal, because there may be a problem."
          In turn, the State Guard Department appealed to the leaders of the opposition parties with a request to assist in the release of UGO employees.
          "In order to avoid misunderstandings with the ambassadors of Europe and to prevent the incitement of an international scandal, as well as to continue performing the functions assigned to the UGO employees, we ask for your assistance in releasing the employees," the appeal says.
          http://news.guru.ua/...zaderzhali.html
          It pleases me. Geyropeytsy feel all the charm of the Russian rebellion. Galicia This is Pure Russia. Russians live on the outskirts. Ukrainians did not exist as a people.
    5. Gora66
      Gora66 21 February 2014 08: 27
      +5
      Maybe you are not in the know or forgot that Ukraine is now an INDEPENDENT state, albeit in quotation marks but independent. Imagine what could begin if Russia at least somehow interferes in the affairs of Ukraine? This will immediately completely untie the hands of the west, now they are only yapping.
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 21 February 2014 08: 31
        +10
        However, the 08.08.08 events showed that there would be nothing besides yelling. They are not ready to fight with Russia (by the way, the words of Condoleezza Rice) because of ... (specify what is needed). Much more important are the sales markets and spheres of influence, to tear as much as possible away from Russia and then divide Russia itself, which is what they are heading for (USA), only they long ago realized that they cannot win in an open confrontation, they found another way ...
      2. jjj
        jjj 21 February 2014 08: 51
        +3
        Quote: GoRa66
        This immediately completely unties the hands of the west, now they are only yapping.

        Even if Russia would suddenly send troops to Ukraine, they would continue to just yap
      3. Tiamat2702
        Tiamat2702 21 February 2014 13: 52
        +1
        Quote: GoRa66
        Maybe you are not in the know or forgot that Ukraine is now an INDEPENDENT state, albeit in quotation marks but independent. Imagine what could begin if Russia at least somehow interferes in the affairs of Ukraine? This will immediately completely untie the hands of the west, now they are only yapping.

        And what will the west do? Will he bring troops there? If our troops are there, Europe will definitely not send its Armed Forces to Ukraine. USA - I doubt it too. Economic sanctions? I think that Ukraine will not get any worse from economic sanctions at the moment. Will they yap at Russia? This is how they do it tirelessly. Even if there is no reason to remember Russia "with a kind word", the West comes up with a reason.
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    6. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 21 February 2014 08: 55
      0
      Quote: Scandinavian
      It seems that the end of the Sochi Olympics will be remembered for a long time in connection with the aggravation of events in Ukraine ... I just don’t understand why Moscow didn’t take adequate measures before, the GRU and the FSB probably knew that a mass rally using firearms was being prepared ... WHY didn’t take action ???

      What nonsense are you talking about? Couch o nalitism is progressing? What should we always be a plug or gasket? Is little Russian blood pouring?
      Is Ukraine important to Russia? Will there be no Eurasian Union without it? What nonsense. Why do we need to hang "such Ukraine" around our necks. Better to have ten enemies in front of you than one traitor behind your back. Do we need Ukrainian land or is it a part of the Russian people? But are there Russians in Ukraine? Real, and not degraded "my hut is on the edge"? All the years I believed that there is, but today I do not see it.

      So we have enough economic and moral dependents. 20 million Russians in Ukraine or 20 million spineless rags that you always need to help? To succeed, you need to get rid of the ballast and focus on the strongest and most persistent, it is better to spend all your energy on your formation and development than to help the rags that you don’t do for anything are able.
      1. Orel
        Orel 21 February 2014 09: 29
        0
        It is better to have ten enemies in front of you than one traitor behind your back.


        Gold words. It is necessary to hang this Putin in his office, over the workplace ...
        1. washi
          washi 21 February 2014 13: 43
          0
          Quote: Orel
          It is better to have ten enemies in front of you than one traitor behind your back.

          Gold words. It is necessary to hang this Putin in his office, over the workplace ...

          Do you think he's so stupid?
          I doubt it.
          The fact that we do not all know - I believe.
      2. washi
        washi 21 February 2014 13: 40
        -1
        Quote: Gluxar_
        Is Ukraine important to Russia? Will there be no Eurasian Union without it? What nonsense. Why do we need to hang "such Ukraine" around our necks. Better to have ten enemies in front of you than one traitor behind your back. Do we need Ukrainian land or is it a part of the Russian people? But are there Russians in Ukraine? Real, and not degraded "my hut is on the edge"? All the years I believed that there is, but today I do not see it.

        I agree. But this is OUR common problem.
        Soviet power made Ukrainians from Russians during Trotskyism and the years of independence after 1987.
        The territory was presented to them by the RSFSR.
        These are our common mistakes.
        1. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ 21 February 2014 18: 20
          0
          Quote: Vasya
          I agree. But this is OUR common problem.
          Soviet power made Ukrainians from Russians during Trotskyism and the years of independence after 1987.
          The territory was presented to them by the RSFSR.
          These are our common mistakes.

          This is not my mistake. And I don't want to do it today. I will spend my energy in order to arrange life in my city, in my area. I'd rather spend a couple of minutes talking with the younger generation than supporting the "Ukrainians" who are all begging for something. And here it's not only about gas or money, it's about the moral core.
          Sami voted for Yanukovych? Get a sign. The siloviki dispersed all this three times, and then Yanukovych released the terrorists ... good luck in the next election. there is no candidate for whom you want to vote? From Russia to send him to you? Can also vote for them and live and die?
      3. demel2
        demel2 21 February 2014 16: 48
        0
        Quote: Gluxar_
        But are there Russians in Ukraine? Real, not degraded "my hut is on the edge"

        In 1991, how many millions of Russians opposed the collapse of their own country? Does history teach nothing, or can you see the logs in your own eyes?
        1. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ 21 February 2014 18: 26
          0
          Quote: demel2
          In 1991, how many millions of Russians opposed the collapse of their own country? Does history teach nothing, or can you see the logs in your own eyes?

          And in 1917 how many performed? And in 1612, how many performed?
          Today is 1991? Did someone help us figure out our choice of the 91st? Or did we drink the whole cup of anger ourselves? Are we extinct or dissolved? No, today we are higher than before. And we did everything ourselves, on our shoulders and with our own hands.
          And this is true. This is the path of purification. And I wish Ukraine a "good journey" in its formation. I want Ukraine not to enter the Customs Union, but to return to Russia. I want 45 million Russians to join 143 million Russians and together create the Russian billion. But from my desires nothing will change in reality, I need to do everything with my own hands.

          If the "Russians in Ukraine" and the Ukrainians want to be part of the Russian Federation, let them say so and do everything in their power. They want to become meat in the ranks of Russophobes, this is their choice. Just don't blame anyone later. The Russians will cope with all the problems themselves, both in their own country and on the whole planet, just do not hang on us other people's problems.
          We need equal brothers and allies, not cheap bedding.
    7. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 21 February 2014 09: 22
      +3
      Quote: Scandinavian
      I don’t understand one thing, why Moscow didn’t take adequate measures before,

      "You can't be lovely!" On the Maidan, everyone shouted: whoever does not jump, that mos ... b! So let them jump further, if they don't understand what these races will lead to. First let them sort it out among themselves, we don't need our own Syria. Putin is doing the right thing, that he does not interfere, whatever Russia does, it will still be to blame. So it is better to wait until the Ukrainians themselves understand what kind of jo ... they got into.
    8. Zamachus
      Zamachus 21 February 2014 09: 50
      +2
      and here Moscow is a separate state, let them understand democracy themselves.
    9. washi
      washi 21 February 2014 13: 16
      -2
      Quote: Scandinavian
      It seems that the end of the Sochi Olympics will be remembered for a long time in connection with the aggravation of events in Ukraine ... I just don’t understand why Moscow didn’t take adequate measures before, the GRU and the FSB probably knew that a mass rally using firearms was being prepared ... WHY didn’t take action ???

      Sorry, but do you remember the terrorist attacks during the Olympics? (just in case, spit)
      There was and is a goal to hold the Olympics without casualties.
      Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Syria, Germany, Latvia, etc. - these are sovereign states that are obliged to cope with their problems.
      But external interference must be proven.
      In Ukraine and Syria it is proved.
      Why OUR participation in the domestic politics of the SEPARATE STATE?
      FOR ACCUSION OF ACCESSION?
      everything is very difficult. Kazakh banks in the territory of the Russian Federation, Russian enterprises in the territory of the Republic of Kazakhstan.
      You can do anything you like, but you can’t get anywhere from a common territory, politics and state.
      In Kazakhstan, there are already problems with engineering personnel (you’re surviving Russians by your idiotic laws), and the Russian Federation has CX (this is already in our government).
  • svp67
    svp67 21 February 2014 08: 03
    +13
    In a nutshell, her message can be described as follows: “Ukraine will be under the EU, even if it is necessary to kill half of the country for this!”
    We do not know what to do with the Olympic infrastructure after the Olympics, I can tell you - - prepare it for a refugee camp ...
    THANKS a lot to the author, now in Ukraine everyone makes their choice and it is clear that the author made it at the call of his heart and mind ...
    1. washi
      washi 21 February 2014 13: 51
      0
      Quote: svp67
      We do not know what to do with the Olympic infrastructure after the Olympics, I can tell you - - prepare it for a refugee camp ...

      Everything is scheduled.
      ALL buildings were built at the expense of private investors. (moreover, part of the sports facilities will be transferred (free of charge) to the state)
      Due to the state infostructure for the city of Sochi. (as in Vladivostok - treatment facilities and water supply). Or do you think that in Russia, cities should not have their own treatment facilities?
      I will not look for a site where everything is painted.
    2. atalef
      atalef 21 February 2014 18: 26
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      We do not know what to do with the Olympic infrastructure after the Olympics, I can tell you - - prepare it for a refugee camp.

      Or maybe I will be the same refugee in Sochi. wassat
  • morpogr
    morpogr 21 February 2014 08: 04
    +7
    And after all, the Zapadents have actually already gained power in the west of Ukraine, but the owners have few tasked to take the whole country. And if leaders and residents of the east and south procrastinate, the infection will come very soon to them.
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 February 2014 08: 32
      +1
      Quote: morpogr
      Ozyaevs set the task to take the whole country

      Everything is much simpler and worse than the "Newly born gentry" needs slaves to provide them with a bright life in Europe ...
    2. washi
      washi 21 February 2014 13: 54
      -1
      Quote: morpogr
      And after all, the Zapadents have actually already gained power in the west of Ukraine, but the owners have few tasked to take the whole country. And if leaders and residents of the east and south procrastinate, the infection will come very soon to them.

      Daoni are already coming.
      The saddest thing is that the police protect the Maydan people.
      Videos have already been posted on the site.
  • Hort
    Hort 21 February 2014 08: 05
    +12
    Yesterday I talked with a friend who lives in Kiev. He says that our (Russian) media are lying, that the people there stand "for freedom and against arbitrariness" ... Either they really believe, or they have been brainwashed ... then we'll figure it out for ourselves, it's all a lie, etc. To my argument that we do not need a civil war at our side, she answered - yes, you already have enemies all around. Kapets in shorthand ...
    And there are many of them. I have some concerns that after they "figure it out ourselves" we will have to rake them ...

    ps Fritz yesterday proposed peacekeepers to enter Ukraine.
    1. Scandinavian
      Scandinavian 21 February 2014 08: 19
      +7
      Quote: hort
      Either really believes, or brainwashed ..

      They brought the people to such poverty that the Ukrainians do not believe anyone, they will only believe when the second Libya and Syria begin there, but then it will be too late. Our grandfathers fought with the Nazis, now our turn can come to fight with the neo-Nazis ... And in truth, events in history are repeated ... So maybe we will just know better history so as not to step on the same rake.
      1. Olkass
        Olkass 21 February 2014 09: 12
        +1
        I'm afraid it’s getting warmer and you’ll start
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 21 February 2014 09: 09
      0
      Quote: hort
      ps Fritz yesterday proposed peacekeepers to enter Ukraine.

      US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel has not yet been able to speak with either his Ukrainian counterpart, Pavel Lebedev, or with any of his deputies, or with any of the representatives of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. Pentagon spokesman Rear Admiral John Kirby said during a media briefing, in Kiev they prefer not to answer calls and simply do not pick up the phone. "So far, we have not been able to talk to anyone at the Ukrainian Defense Ministry," Kirby said to Reuters. "Pentagon officials have been trying to establish contact with the Ukrainian Ministry since the beginning of this week." Kirby also said that he was not aware of any recent successful contacts between representatives of the US and Ukrainian defense ministries. The heads of ministries, Heigel and Lebedev, last spoke in December 2013. Rear Admiral Kirby admitted that such a situation is "atypical". Previously, the Pentagon reiterated the call of US President Barack Obama, who asked the Ukrainian government to refrain from escalating the conflict and not use the country's armed forces to suppress protests. Kirby noted that, according to the information of American diplomats from the US Embassy in Kiev, at the moment, the Ukrainian authorities have not taken this step, and the armed forces are used only to protect military facilities, including warehouses with weapons and ammunition. According to him, the Pentagon is confident that the situation in Ukraine needs to be resolved exclusively by political means.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139307.html
      1. Jin
        Jin 21 February 2014 10: 19
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        According to him, sure at the Pentagonthat the situation in Ukraine it must be decided exclusively by political means.


        That smiled ... Said, said so! No comment at all ...
    3. washi
      washi 21 February 2014 14: 01
      +1
      Quote: hort
      Yesterday I talked with a friend who lives in Kiev. He says that our (Russian) media are lying, that the people there stand "for freedom and against arbitrariness" ... Either they really believe, or they are brainwashed ..

      http://rusukrforum.com/images/000000000hh.jpg
      http://cs613424.vk.me/v613424526/6511/m1bYIrmfSS4.jpg
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 21 February 2014 08: 06
    +6
    The Verkhovna Rada adopted a resolution according to which all power units must return to their places of deployment, they are forbidden to use weapons, and roads are blocked.

    There are no words ... So the Banderite bandits will scoff and kill people, and the legitimate government does not even have the right to protect itself and civilians. This is the same as that a sheep is led to the "slaughter", but it must be meek, some kind of insanity ...
    1. washi
      washi 21 February 2014 14: 03
      -2
      Quote: ia-ai00
      The Verkhovna Rada adopted a resolution according to which all power units must return to their places of deployment, they are forbidden to use weapons, and roads are blocked.

      There are no words ... So the Banderite bandits will scoff and kill people, and the legitimate government does not even have the right to protect itself and civilians. This is the same as that a sheep is led to the "slaughter", but it must be meek, some kind of insanity ...

      They did not let the PR there.
      That is, the decision is not legal.
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 21 February 2014 14: 40
        +1
        So what, what is not legal... GayRopa and the United States still recognize their decision as legitimate, and in the event of a similar use of weapons by the Interior Ministry forces, it will be regarded as a crime. Although they are without a decision of the Verkhovna Rada, in the absence of PR, they think so. On the part of the bandits, murders have been taking place for a long time, but for some reason they are not condemned by the West from the United States, and the authorities are urged to "behave with restraint."
  • Same lech
    Same lech 21 February 2014 08: 06
    +11
    It turns out that the problem is not limited to Yanukovych and his gang, and is not even directly related to the association agreement. It turns out that Russia and Putin personally are to blame for everything! It turns out that now we are completing what we did not finish in 1991 (these are Tyagnibok's words)!



    What is it - they are already telling us in plain text THAT THE FOLLOWING FOR MAIDANIZING RUSSIA WILL WE TIME to finish these games.

    The victories of our athletes at the OLYMPIAD somehow smoothly receded into the background — the democrats' secondary goal is achieved. The OLYMPIAD in Sochi is soiled by events in UKRAINE-BAD it is all very bad.
    1. enyusha
      enyusha 21 February 2014 08: 22
      +10
      So in Russia on Echo, Rain and other X * there is no artistic whistle with the full connivance of the authorities! Well, Europe had to turn off the gas !!!
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 21 February 2014 09: 13
        +2
        Oh, by the way, there are also 4 lardas hanging for Yanukovych ...
      2. takto.onotak
        takto.onotak 21 February 2014 18: 44
        0
        Well, at least raise the price, so that they would think ...
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    2. zzz
      zzz 21 February 2014 14: 58
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The victories of our athletes at the OLYMPIAD somehow smoothly receded into the background — the democrats' secondary goal is achieved. The OLYMPIAD in Sochi is soiled by events in UKRAINE-BAD it is all very bad.


      I hope that Putin is also bad! But, I imagine how the enemies of Russia rejoice ...
      1. takto.onotak
        takto.onotak 21 February 2014 22: 37
        0
        What is she suddenly messed up with? In 2008, no one screamed, everyone swallowed. And most importantly, the IOC was silent! And now, like a mess, it’s enough to troll, you need to correctly place accents, the painters (active pedolators) of the Syrian and Ukrainian themes are dirty. And Russia is holding well and dignified. Any other country would already screech and writhe because of the violation of personal interests ... Love the Motherland!
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  • dark_65
    dark_65 21 February 2014 08: 07
    +3
    like there were a bunch of people. suffering from everyone. so it remained ... crush a slave. don’t crush.
  • fleks
    fleks 21 February 2014 08: 09
    -15%
    Apparently the same scenario is likely to be expected by Russia, as it is not regrettable
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 08: 19
      +7
      Quote: fleks
      apparently the same scenario is likely to be expected by Russia as it is not regrettable

      This is a blizzard?
      1. fleks
        fleks 21 February 2014 08: 32
        -9
        Yes, because Yanukovych is exactly the same Putin, but Toothless, that finding Serdyukov at large adds Putin points, I think that this fact draws him to the bottom
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 09: 05
          +11
          Quote: fleks
          Yes, because Yanukovych is exactly the same Putin but toothless-

          Well, yes, straight two boots a pair, do you have glasses?
          Quote: fleks
          finding Serdyukov at large adds Putin a point

          Because of Serdyukov, we’ll drop everything and let's go smash our country, yes fool
          1. washi
            washi 21 February 2014 14: 11
            -3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Because of Serdyukov, we’ll drop everything and let's go smash our country, yes

            I read in the arguments of the week that Serdyukov Medvedev appropriated the Hero of Russia. And because of this, the parliamentary investigation was canceled.
            Soon all zhurnalyugi will copy, not caring that the hero is appropriated by the prezik (I do not like the word "president") .. But VVP will not do this.
        2. washi
          washi 21 February 2014 14: 07
          +3
          Yes, what are you? and some think the Jews are to blame.
          Mossad snipers lit up on the Maidan.
          Alexey Grachev
          [media=http://maxpark.com/static/u/article_image/14/02/20/tmpbrw9R9.jpeg]
          Quote: Even by the section, you can understand that the soldier with the SVD has an eastern appearance. The fighter with the SVD is the one to whom I circled my face. The rifle that I circled is very popular in the tzahal. These snipers have already shot and killed 20 policemen and killed 10 Maydan.
          Quote: The man whom I circled is very similar to a Russian-speaking Jew. In the tzahal for reference 300 thousand Russian-speaking recruits. There are a lot of them in the mosad.
          Quote: The strange tactics of snipers first shoot at the golden eagle and the police, and then at the protesters. They want to provoke people to blood.
          First of all, according to the security forces, so that the golden eagle would draw for blood and he would use firearms.
          Quote: And then the sniper shoot at the activists of the Maidan. Looks like the people would be completely brutalized and began to tear the golden eagle. Well, this is just the initial goal.
          http://maxpark.com/community/5625/co...ref=2476009127
        3. takto.onotak
          takto.onotak 21 February 2014 18: 48
          +1
          Do not exaggerate. There are problems, of course, but what without them ... As my father says: if you woke up in the morning and nothing hurts, then you have died ...!
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      2. tenere1200
        tenere1200 21 February 2014 09: 02
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: fleks
        apparently the same scenario is likely to be expected by Russia as it is not regrettable

        This is a blizzard?

        Here is the script. A group of Nazis wet a couple of Czechs or Dag. Anyway, for what. At the call of their national leaders, 2 million non-Slavs are coming out in Moscow. They can then gather people, unlike us. And you're done. What they will be told is what they will do. One thing is clear - our mess will be implicated in the national question. (exercises in Marx and Biryulyovo held.) And we are following Ukraine. The enemy is not at the gate. He is already at our place.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 09: 06
          +3
          Quote: tenere1200
          At the call of their national leaders, 2 million non-Slavs go out in Moscow

          For those who give orders money and their own skin is much more expensive. They feel very good in Moscow and will not change anything in their lives. You can play quickly.
          1. tenere1200
            tenere1200 21 February 2014 21: 26
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: tenere1200
            At the call of their national leaders, 2 million non-Slavs go out in Moscow

            For those who give orders money and their own skin is much more expensive. They feel very good in Moscow and will not change anything in their lives. You can play quickly.

            Those who give orders usually 100% remain in the shade and with their money. And most often, these gentlemen sit far from those places where running meat with margarine in the head embodies their dreams.
          2. v53993
            v53993 22 February 2014 10: 42
            0
            Alexander Romanov

            You are not always right. Because only fools always consider themselves right. I hope that you will not be included in this cohort.
      3. v53993
        v53993 21 February 2014 09: 32
        0
        This is a blizzard?

        Yes, for example with this - "They could not when they wanted, because they did not want when they could." Common situation? And we may find ourselves in this position very soon, as we would not like to convince ourselves otherwise.
    2. Sultan
      Sultan 21 February 2014 08: 28
      +11
      The scenario is far from fantastic. We also have very rich oligarchs who can be crushed by a toad. It is the oligarchy, the power of corporations and the banking sums that start wars ... We should strangle the oligarchs, lower them from heaven to earth and force them to scream at people, not themselves, who profit from the Privatization actions of the public domain!
      1. washi
        washi 21 February 2014 15: 00
        0
        Quote: Sultan
        We should strangle the oligarchs

        But is this not already done in Russia? They made the Olympics for their money. Now in turn is the football championship.
        Many schools and kindergartens sponsor oligarchs and are simply rich for now.
        Nationalize, it seems like a violation, but to help them find where to spend the money is always.
        Or is it wrong with you?
    3. old rocket man
      old rocket man 21 February 2014 08: 35
      +7
      Quote: fleks
      Apparently the same scenario is likely to be expected by Russia, as it is not regrettable


      Just try. Here you are not there, instantly roll your elbows to the back of your head am
      1. Kuvabatake
        Kuvabatake 21 February 2014 12: 13
        +1
        I think so in Ukraine, too, thought so ... sad
    4. Nayhas
      Nayhas 21 February 2014 08: 36
      +10
      Quote: fleks
      Apparently the same scenario is likely to be expected by Russia, as it is not regrettable

      Well, this is not possible with us. For example, the other day, the Novokuznetsk district court decided to terminate the criminal case of an accident at the Ulyanovskaya mine, which killed 110 people due to the expiration of the statute of limitations. The director of the mine and his subordinates were accused of violating safety rules at explosive facilities, resulting in the death of two or more persons through negligence. According to the prosecution, the director of the mine knew about violations of safety requirements, but did not take measures to eliminate them. So, 110 people died due to the fault of the mine management, but the guilty are not guilty. Who in Novokuznetsk rose indignantly? Though relatives of the dead? No, silence ... Our Maidan is impossible.
    5. baltika-18
      baltika-18 21 February 2014 08: 39
      +6
      Quote: fleks
      Apparently the same scenario is likely to be expected by Russia, as it is not regrettable

      I don’t have any doubts that this is a training session for larger events. But in Russia, this scenario will not work, at first it will go around in circles (Central Asia, Kazakhstan, etc.), the situation will be unstable and only then will we try to undermine .
      They will use the Islamic factor, but they have few chances.
    6. RBLip
      RBLip 21 February 2014 08: 42
      +5
      Quote: fleks
      Apparently the same scenario is likely to be expected by Russia, as it is not regrettable

      horseradish wait. swamp it showed. Putin has a strong position. It is popular in contrast to rags, which are in Ukraine.
    7. Wellych
      Wellych 21 February 2014 08: 43
      0
      I guess they said on CNN.
    8. Dormidont
      Dormidont 21 February 2014 08: 47
      +1
      Odd, I don’t understand, who are you for !?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 09: 02
        +3
        Quote: Dormidont
        Odd, I don’t understand, who are you for !?

        Judging by the aipi, a person lives in the USA, he simply covered, to put it mildly, the not popular flag of America, with the flag of the USSR.
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    10. jjj
      jjj 21 February 2014 08: 57
      +4
      Quote: fleks
      Apparently, Russia expects the same scenario.

      Yesterday I talked with my son, a military man, I’ll immediately clarify in Russia. He said that if they were attacked, the command would wait for a written order to repel the attack. You never know what is said in the charters and laws. And no one, perhaps with the exception of the commanders who fought in Chechnya, is going to take at least a gram of some responsibility. This is a feature of the peacetime army.
      1. takto.onotak
        takto.onotak 21 February 2014 18: 37
        0
        Well, the general plan is certainly clear, but what will they do in case of a sudden, obvious nap.? It looks like he is a loser ... (litter, no offense)
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    11. Hort
      Hort 21 February 2014 09: 05
      +9
      Although I am a nationalist (Russian), I can definitely say that such a voyage is definitely not permissible. And if necessary, without looking back at those who bury any white-tape-Wahhabi-swamp shrouder from above into the ground.
      And any pseudo-nationalist russia, like bulk at the same time
      1. Jin
        Jin 21 February 2014 10: 36
        +8
        Quote: hort
        And if necessary, without looking back at those who bury any white-tape-Wahhabi-swamp shrouder from above into the ground.


        I am glad that there are such guys in Russia. But only the events of recent years, something about the opposite say ... Our government itself is imprisoning us for "incitement", but they are not ...
        Therefore, it’s generally not clear to me who Putin really is, I wrote more than once about this ... like my own in words, but how it comes down to it ... you will understand FIG.
        Especially since the USSR was destroyed, but where is the guarantee that Russia will stand? Indeed, in the Union, people were many times more united and even then! All the more so right now, so many "fertile" factors have appeared that foreign ears * have plenty to choose from ... Plus the glaring inertness of us Russians !!! INTERESTING, IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE OF THE WORLD, THERE IS A PROverb: "FUCK US, ARE WE STRONGING ???" sad Disgusting, but true !!!
        This is all alarming ...
  • Sultan
    Sultan 21 February 2014 08: 11
    +23
    Just a scribe! No one can rule the country except from the tsar of the Tsar, all the former Soviet republics are not able to exist without the support of Russia. They are like drug addicts, they’ve got a potion for free and cannot stop, because the vital reflexes of the decaying organism are atrophied. The West beckons with another batch of dope, they say sell your soul for a gram of five-minute happiness. And they are glad, and at the moment when they are pulled, they are warned of danger, of reckless stride, they snap back and strive to beat in the face with their fist. Because it is useless to speak to the deaf, to show the blind, to give knowledge to the dead brain! Scourge with fresh, environmentally friendly hay and the same clean water to bring yourself into a divine form and bring to life the remnants of the mind. Tough acting whip, fist west under his nose to sniff what it smells like for him. I repeat, tough, confident actions will reason any idiot. No one listens to Mamley - they are afraid of power. So let’s be strong! Only strong and fair people will go. I speak out grotesquely, with exaggeration, but the essence is the same - only together on mutually beneficial conditions can we live. There is nothing for us to fraternize with those who have tried to destroy our land from time immemorial, nothing to strive for paradise - it was put only after death, and even then not for everyone. Glabalization is like devouring and grinding the bones of humanity. Our land is wealth. It must be defended, and not sold for candy wrappers to the conquistadors. People, be vigilant and look at the problem, being outside its borders. Everything is ingenious - simple! We all know what each of us desires - peace, tranquility and prosperity.
    1. sasha127
      sasha127 21 February 2014 09: 13
      +5
      Correctly said, the strong is respected in the world. Nobody listens to Mamley.
      As for the actions of Yanukovych to see the law and order. It is acceptable to say not obscure Bzezhinskovo who once said, “If your elite has money in foreign banks. That is a very big question, whose elite is this?” Until recently, Yanukovych , tried to please everyone, as they say, so that the wolves were fed and the sheep were safe. But he didn’t work out anything, and he couldn’t not get it. In fact, Yanukovych, with his last decision to reduce anti-terrorist support, surrendered power. waiting, now either it will become a zapodny kalonia, or it will split into a zapodny and southeastern one.
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  • Dormidont
    Dormidont 21 February 2014 08: 17
    +1
    Now EVERYTHING! Finished it! fool
  • wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 21 February 2014 08: 18
    +8
    And just now it was reported that the Verkhovna Rada adopted a resolution according to which all power units must return to their places of deployment, they are forbidden to use weapons, and roads are blocked.

    this is called sailed. state power surrendered to a handful of terrorists. Yanukovych, what is truly a multicellular amoeba?
  • shaitan
    shaitan 21 February 2014 08: 19
    +4
    Well, straight visual aid how not to do. It’s a pity that it is known at such a high price
  • Kite
    Kite 21 February 2014 08: 22
    +1
    "To be honest, it is very, very difficult to find words to describe all the madness and idiocy that can now be heard from the lips of our Ukrainian oppositionists. .... "
    - and therefore, the author proposes to hand over banderlog to Kiev? The second half, too, runs wild or will it be killed? (all people cannot be smart. However, fact is fact - there are plenty of them. But they are not the majority. Although I admit that about half.) The author went to look for a place in the cemetery?
  • Sultan
    Sultan 21 February 2014 08: 25
    +4
    [quote = wasjasibirjac] [quote] Yanukovych, what is really a multicellular amoeba? [/ quote] really - Amoeba !!! Greedy, he sold the people for a penny!
  • PValery53
    PValery53 21 February 2014 08: 29
    +4
    And if a wave of rabid watchdogs rushes from Ukraine to the north-east ?! Europe already has "experience" in "channeling" aggression towards Russia ... Is there a promise of a new bloodbath? - Something imperceptibly no "extra" body movements of our troops. And it's time to be ready for "soaking" uninvited "guests". And first of all, "do not forget" the European and American "puppeteers" to take "the zugunder".
  • shaitan
    shaitan 21 February 2014 08: 31
    +1
    So the deputy chief of the general staff resigned. (... censored ...)
    1. jjj
      jjj 21 February 2014 11: 07
      +1
      Quote: shaitan
      So the deputy chief of the general staff resigned

      Right after the boss. Don't "want to fight the people"
      1. Orik
        Orik 21 February 2014 14: 05
        0
        Quote: jjj
        Quote: shaitan
        So the deputy chief of the general staff resigned

        Right after the boss. Don't "want to fight the people"

        They do not want to be extreme and can be understood.
  • Arhj
    Arhj 21 February 2014 08: 37
    +7
    And just now it was reported that the Verkhovna Rada adopted a resolution according to which all power units must return to their places of deployment, they are forbidden to use weapons, and roads are blocked. Those. the police must lay down their arms in front of the terrorists, leave the streets and leave Kiev armed groups of militants.

    I saw this meeting of the Rada. Gathered "Batkovshchina", "Blow" and "Freedom" and even less than half of the Rada and accept. With the same success, three maydanut clowns could vote themselves without a booth called Rada. Today they are going to change the constitution. And then in the West, without going into details, they will shout that Yanukovych does not comply with the decision of the Rada.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 21 February 2014 08: 51
      +3
      Those. is the ruling of BP - filkin letter? Well, thank God!
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 21 February 2014 08: 38
    +2
    And really, what is the use of Putin's split Ukraine? The limitrophic territorial unit in which the state as such has long been absent for a long time will collapse to hell, and there is essentially nobody to come to an agreement with. After the collapse, it will be possible to act by simple means. Better quickly and painfully than slowly and painfully.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 21 February 2014 08: 55
      +3
      Quote: EvilLion
      The limitrophic territorial unit in which the state as such has long been absent for a long time will collapse to hell, and in fact there is nobody to agree on.

      Is it sarcasm, or are you really that way about Ukraine and its citizens?
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 21 February 2014 09: 07
        +8
        I don't know any citizens of Ukraine, there is only the population in the temporarily occupied territories, which in a couple of weeks will begin to cut in the best traditions of Volyn. But you apparently don't give a damn about people. In fact, there is no Bandera revolt, since Ukraine was originally a Bandera-Nazi formation, in which for 20+ years Russians have been made into some incomprehensible Ukrainians. Well, as they used to say in the Mediterranean: "A turkish man is worse than a Turk." That is, they make outright zombies from the population, covering it up with a young mountain, wide trousers and embroidered shirts with mova. Now the process has entered the final stage, or Russia will crush this nit in the bud and Ukrainians will finally be declared Nazism, which it is, or we will have a territory controlled by the Nazis at our side, the size of any European state, from which we will have to flee 30-35 million person.
      2. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 21 February 2014 09: 17
        +3
        This is sarcasm, but it would be even more appropriate if not for Sevastopol.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 21 February 2014 09: 26
          0
          Quote: Banshee
          if not for Sevastopol.


          The leader of the Mejlis (parliament) of the Crimean Tatars Refat Chubarov announced that he would not allow the transfer of the Russian peninsula. UNIAN informs about this with reference to the press service of the Mejlis.

          Such proposals made by deputies of the Supreme Council of the Autonomy, Chubarov called "political cheating" in the difficult period for the country and promised to punish their authors. “This is our land, this is the land of everyone who lives in Crimea, we have no other homeland,” the politician added.

          Earlier, according to RIA Novosti, the speaker of the Supreme Council, Vladimir Konstantinov, said at a meeting of the LDPR faction in the State Duma in Moscow that the only way Crimeans could be is to denounce the decision of the CPSU Central Committee to transfer the peninsula to Ukraine. “If the country itself ceases to exist, then all those acts cease relations, there will be a completely different political and legal history,” he said.

          Prior to this, on February 19, at a meeting of the Supreme Council, Konstantinov called the calls for separation from Ukraine "emotions" and noted that the main task was to "help Kiev defend power."
          http://www.versii.com/news/297822/
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 21 February 2014 11: 06
            +1
            Quote: Egoza
            This is our land, this is the land of everyone who lives in Crimea, we have no other homeland, ”the politician added.

            How? And Kazakhstan, or where were they deported there ???
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          3. Orik
            Orik 21 February 2014 14: 10
            0
            Quote: Egoza
            The leader of the Mejlis (parliament) of the Crimean Tatars Refat Chubarov announced that he would not allow the transfer of the Russian peninsula. UNIAN informs about this with reference to the press service of the Mejlis.

            Such proposals made by deputies of the Supreme Council of the Autonomy, Chubarov called "political cheating" in the difficult period for the country and promised to punish their authors. “This is our land, this is the land of everyone who lives in Crimea, we have no other homeland,” the politician added.

            Earlier, according to RIA Novosti, the speaker of the Supreme Council, Vladimir Konstantinov, said at a meeting of the LDPR faction in the State Duma in Moscow that the only way Crimeans could be is to denounce the decision of the CPSU Central Committee to transfer the peninsula to Ukraine. “If the country itself ceases to exist, then all those acts cease relations, there will be a completely different political and legal history,” he said.

            Prior to this, on February 19, at a meeting of the Supreme Council, Konstantinov called the calls for separation from Ukraine "emotions" and noted that the main task was to "help Kiev defend power."
            http://www.versii.com/news/297822/

            Not surprisingly, he put it for this:
    2. engineer74
      engineer74 21 February 2014 09: 14
      +4
      Not everything is so simple, if power collapses, we will get Chechnya, Yugoslavia and Afghanistan in one bottle.
      quick and painful
      Unfortunately, it doesn’t work out, it will be very painful for a long time. Bandera, after the Second World War, EMNIP up to 56 partisans and then they acted without external support. Putin now has a win-win position - to sit and wait: either Yanukovych will roll the Maidan into asphalt and he will have one option: to Russia under any conditions, or they will roll Yanukovych into the asphalt, then we are waiting for the first Jewish pogrom and enter Ukraine under the UN flag. The Big Game is a lot of blood. sad
      IMHO
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 21 February 2014 11: 07
        +2
        basically I agree with you, except, up to 56 partisans, and then they acted without external support., they just had support, from England, the United States. Germany surrendered to them everything that it had there during the war.
  • AndreyS
    AndreyS 21 February 2014 08: 41
    +11
    I haven't registered on the site for a long time, but I couldn't stand it! Remarkable "people's" deputies (especially the regionals), with their "smart" decision, simply leaked those who defended their asses from outright bandits. It is painful and insulting to watch how the security officials who have shown themselves as courageous people are humiliated! Unfortunately, these events remind me of the first Chechen war, only there is a big difference in Russia, it was one region, and in Ukraine, half of the country.
    1. old rocket man
      old rocket man 21 February 2014 09: 06
      +2
      Quote: AndreyS
      Remarkable "people's" deputies (especially the regionals), with their "smart" decision, simply leaked those who defended their asses from obvious bandits


      Watch and read the news carefully negative, regionals left the meeting and did not take part in the vote fool
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 21 February 2014 09: 20
        +3
        Quote: Old Rocketman
        regionals left the meeting and did not take part in the vote fool

        Moreover! Now the media and the opposition are spreading statements about "numerous exits from the ranks of the PR" - nonsense! There are beggars, but many remain in place. And here's an example ...
        "Member of the parliamentary faction of the Party of Regions Volodymyr Prodivus" The times of trouble are full of vague rumors. Apparently, someone really wants to get political dividends on blood. Only a scoundrel will now allow himself to spread gossip and lie. In these conditions I responsibly declare: I do not leave the faction of the regions of Paritia, no matter how much someone would like to. I'm not a rat running from a ship. And the ship of the party does not sink. Just hit a heavy storm. But it will certainly go into calm waters. We, members of the Party of Regions faction, will do everything possible and impossible, but peace will prevail on the Maidan, ”he said.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139257.html
  • platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 21 February 2014 08: 43
    +3
    Yanukovych a rag when he was elected a second time it was a mistake of the East, betrayed him for the first time in 2004 and he needed money and he betrayed the people for money, refused the people for sanctions, and the Ukrainians ram and in my opinion even dumber than Moldavians and Baltic states. It is a pity the people who will suffer innocently.
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 21 February 2014 08: 53
      +4
      You can not insult the people. Any!
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  • sinukvl
    sinukvl 21 February 2014 09: 02
    +6
    Until now, impressed by yesterday's inversion of Yanukovych. This is not the president, this is a rag and a sandman!
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 21 February 2014 09: 03
    +1
    They say that the elections will be held, but the violent ones will agree with the results of these elections, because they will agree only on their own terms, so the elections are not an option.
  • nemec55
    nemec55 21 February 2014 09: 05
    +4
    Can Yulka release ???????? Damn from a snuff-box Well, she’ll roll Yanyk’s neck well, from him it’s just like a bull’s milk, but there is a hope that everything will die out. Well, plus she has eggs, unlike Znyka, and also iron ones.
    1. old rocket man
      old rocket man 21 February 2014 09: 11
      +1
      Quote: nemec55
      Can Yulka release ???????? Damn from a snuff-box Well, she’ll roll Yanyk’s neck well, from him it’s just like a bull’s milk, but there is a hope that everything will die out. Well, plus she has eggs, unlike Znyka, and also iron ones.


      It would be a way out, a transfer of power to Azarov would have rolled a week earlier, and now it’s possible to stop it only.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 21 February 2014 10: 58
      0
      Quote: nemec55
      May let Julia

      Julia can't be released! She will lead the opposition, and the same Bandera will kiss. Another thing is that Yanukovych, as a sign of "goodwill", will send her over the hill for treatment, but in the status of a prisoner.
  • artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk 21 February 2014 09: 06
    +3
    Your mother, friends wake me up, I have a bad dream
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    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 21 February 2014 11: 13
      +2
      Quote: artist-mamluk
      Your mother, friends wake me up, I have a bad dream

      Yeah, based on the book by Gleb Bobrov "The Age of the Dead".
      Abstract:

      Friends! Before you is the fruit of three years of reflection, a year and a half
      painstaking work and one extensive heart attack. Novel about the real present and
      possible future ...
      Immediately I want to appeal to fans to throw wet harem pants and
      torn shirts on his chest: Panov! By the authority given to me by the Lord -
      ability to create - I did my part of the overall work: modeled
      extreme scenario. This is your stilts, stepladder - so that you
      were able to look into the opening abyss of the future. Now your turn is
      make the described future not become a reality. Praemonitus,
      praemunitus.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 21 February 2014 13: 03
        +1
        By the way! I'd like to know what Gleb Bobrov himself thinks about what is happening? Did someone not have a link?
        1. Landwarrior
          Landwarrior 21 February 2014 18: 35
          +3
          I did not find fresh, but here is an excerpt from his 2010 interview
          (I highlighted in bold)
          From-UA: - Do you think that in reality, a split and a civil war could threaten Ukraine?

          G. Bobrov: - Of course! Firstly, a split has already occurred. This is a fact that we must finally admit and look at reality without blinders and pink glasses. Instead, no one is not only going to recognize something, but they don’t want to overcome anything. Moreover, the opposite! All leading political forces are actively working to expand and deepen this complex - spiritual, worldview, national - split of the country. Here you want - for years you have to bridge the gap.

          Secondly, and this is the main thing, the threat of Ukraine becoming a “hot spot” comes from outside. We are at the forefront of a long-standing geopolitical conflict and, in these global games, we are fulfilling, for now, the role of a bargaining chip. And a great merit in this status belongs to ourselves - the citizens of the country. The fair price for social passivity, unwillingness to think and the consumer position of “my hut from the edge”.

          A source:
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          1. engineer74
            engineer74 22 February 2014 12: 37
            +1
            Thank you!
            There are still prophets in their own country, only no one believes them ... what
            1. Landwarrior
              Landwarrior 23 February 2014 00: 46
              +1
              Not at all. All the time since the first reading I was hoping that this was just fantastic, but that's how it is ... hi
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 23 February 2014 18: 43
          +1
          Here is a link to his LJ.
          http://alternathistory.livejournal.com/848000.html
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  • Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 21 February 2014 09: 12
    +4
    The letter is certainly too hysterical, but a person can be understood.

    Lavrov voiced the position of Moscow. I strongly doubt that if at least some Western peacekeepers try to enter Ukraine, the Kremlin will remain on the sidelines. I can’t believe it, since we have strategic interests there in the east and in the Crimea. Lviv .. yes to hell with her. I’m almost sure that they are already gathering a team of FSB officers who will be thrown there in a civilian way (instructors, consultants and just commanders), so that they would come and explain clearly, they say you want to save the country or at least part of it, you want to keep your seats and assholes, do what they tell you, and we will help with money, weapons and information.

    The fact that all this has come to such a brown outrage is terribly depressing.
  • Moore
    Moore 21 February 2014 09: 12
    +2
    And now we have two options: either we bring to power the Western protege (whoever he is) and immediately sign the Act on the recognition of colonial dependence with the EU, or the country burns in full swing and is washed with blood for real.

    Why does the author believe that the former excludes the latter?
    It’s enough to recall the story: relying on the Germans (yes, again, they are the bright European elves) Skoropadsky, Petlyura (Tynechnibok’s system with Gorilla and Rabbit), bandits of all stripes - white, green, red, black (an analogue of the Right sector and other thugs) . And everyone killed everyone.
    The Germans, when it becomes sour, will be dumped again at the most interesting moment, washing the handles with blood, which again flows in abundance.
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 21 February 2014 09: 13
    +5
    In this situation, only the army can restore order, Yanukovych is urgently arrested, the gang on the Maidan give time for a day to disperse, after who will remain brutally crushed no matter what. Here is one real way to solve the problem. Western regions put on a hungry rations, they themselves will crawl in a couple of months.
  • Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 21 February 2014 09: 16
    +10
    It's a shame to tears. We have to admit that we lost, including the eastern regions of Ukraine, inhabited by our fraternal people. We (Russia) only have to fight for the Crimea.
    Do not be offended by the guys from Eastern Ukraine, I consider you brothers, but your dream of a ceasefire and a peaceful life in a single state comes true. You will see that soon the police and explosives will be taken to the barracks and the fascist government will appear in your country and you will calmly continue to work in factories and mines. Bender will make a national hero. Forgive me, for God's sake forgive me, but I do not believe that someone will take up arms and rise against the new government. You expect armed militants to come to you, but this will not happen. They will simply appoint a new government and everything will go as before but already under the heel of NATO. It’s a shame for grandfathers. It's a shame to the depths of the soul. They did not back down. They could.
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    1. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 21 February 2014 09: 47
      +2
      Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. A Nazi government will now be appointed and Nazism will become legitimate. NATO under Kursk is a matter of recent times
  • Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 21 February 2014 09: 16
    +3
    Quote: Olkass
    I'm afraid it’s getting warmer and you’ll start

    They cut us down right away, no one admits that the cops get sick, and they just stood and endured ...
  • Known who
    Known who 21 February 2014 09: 16
    +1
    Russia urgently needs to go on the offensive, primarily on the information front and, first of all, in Ukraine itself. Under the current scenario, the divisions Galichina and Nakhtigal will soon be standing on the border in the Sumy region threatening Moscow with their fist.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 21 February 2014 10: 30
      +2
      Quote: Who is known
      Russia urgently needs to go on the offensive, primarily on the information front and, first of all, in Ukraine itself. Under the current scenario, the divisions Galichina and Nakhtigal will soon be standing on the border in the Sumy region threatening Moscow with their fist.

      I totally agree.
      The main thing is not to breed a tantrum and think well with your head. And then the forest is so big that the chips will fly more than other logs.
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 21 February 2014 09: 18
    +1
    No matter how it turns out in Ukraine - EVERYTHING AGAINST EVERYONE. With such "paralysis" in power, working Ukraine and the party in power will not defend. Ultimately, each "khutor" will bend its own line, and it is not clear who will be with whom and who will be against whom, well, the only thing is that for a SANE part of the population one enemy is obvious - the Nazis-Banderites.
  • Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 21 February 2014 09: 20
    +3
    Maybe it's time !!!!!!!

    1. targitai
      targitai 21 February 2014 09: 25
      -4
      Or maybe it's too late ?!
    2. m.metis2011
      m.metis2011 21 February 2014 13: 38
      +1
      It’s time, and not when it’s too late !!!!!!!!! Our so-called (partners) from the EU and the United States, long ago dropped their masks ... And to achieve their goals they do not disdain anything. What are we ??? !!!
  • loginovich
    loginovich 21 February 2014 09: 23
    +2
    Pro-government deputies flee Ukraine, taking their families and belongings with them. In just an hour, 8 charters departed from the old VIP terminal at Zhulyan Airport, another 2 - to Zurich and Munich - as of 20.30 were preparing for departure. Now the emigrants will return Khoroshkov and the like. Clowns will not get anywhere.
    1. washi
      washi 21 February 2014 15: 32
      0
      Klitschko and Jacek flew away.
      Tsarev in Moscow asks for support and blames Moscow for everything.
  • Narrator.tales
    Narrator.tales 21 February 2014 09: 23
    +5
    During the Olympics, all wars stopped, and now, like the 2008th, there is a war. How nasty the Nazis are in Ukraine, soon everything will fall back into place, play independence and stop. We will return Crimea and eastern Ukraine. And the rallies on Bolotnaya Square lost because of just the appearance of the Nazis and the LGBT community, normal people will not support this, therefore they choose the lesser of two evils. And therefore Our government will remain in the future.
  • I_VOIN_I
    I_VOIN_I 21 February 2014 09: 27
    +2
    Cops cannot be killed. And this is right here at our side. And I do not understand the position of the Kremlin. Why do we need CHAOS in Russia?
  • mabuta
    mabuta 21 February 2014 09: 32
    +4
    Any impudence is nurtured by impunity. And in Ukraine it seems to me that everything is just beginning. Http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/261/gfhv605.jpg
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 21 February 2014 09: 34
    +2
    It was disgusting to watch footage of Yanukovych’s meeting with Western peacekeepers.
    On their faces, contempt for the miserable president was written. Nevertheless, he agreed with the ultimatum of the West. Today, we learn that the security forces have been assigned to the places of deployment and they will defend with
    the use of weapons. Everything! At this point, you can put an end to!
    The abdication will follow tomorrow or the power will pass to the parliament and choice
    new hetman. Some rats, having felt this, are already running. Dumansky, deputy chief of the General Staff of Ukraine, a treacherous example will show
    all the generals. There is no army. In Ukraine, chaos and civilian
    war.
  • I_VOIN_I
    I_VOIN_I 21 February 2014 09: 35
    +1
    We need a normal leader from eastern Ukraine. An information blockade of territories where the Truth can still be saved (media capture and the cutting off of the Internet). Punitive units to destroy the leaders of the Nazis and active radicals.
    1. explorer
      explorer 21 February 2014 10: 10
      +4
      Leader? No one will give them deliverance - neither God, nor the king, nor the hero!
      They climb into it themselves.
      In the period of lack of mass communications, the fairy tale about the leader could still be swallowed, but this time, if there are communication systems, if you want to raise EXISTING supporters, there are no obstacles.
      That means they are practically nonexistent.
      You just have to organize: block the center of the city, leave it without water, electricity, disconnect, drive off public transport, etc. drive out journalists, block approaches. In short, crowbar into a transformer and USE !! repeat
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 21 February 2014 10: 35
        +2
        Quote: explorer
        Leader? No one will give them deliverance - neither God, nor the king, nor the hero!
        <...>
        You just have to organize: block the center of the city, leave it without water, electricity, disconnect, drive off public transport, etc. drive out journalists, block approaches. In short, crowbar into a transformer and USE !! repeat

        Sure sure...

        There are really no where to get leaders, namely party ones. We need a military coup and a tough sweep of all the maydans. Those. I think that in the army someone from the honest ones could remain. If Ukraine is handed over to this parliament, which is constantly dragging each other's forelocks from behind a piece of fat, then Ukraine will have only firebrands left before the next new year.
        1. Vladimir 70
          Vladimir 70 21 February 2014 10: 43
          +3
          We need a military coup and a tough sweep of all the maydans. Those. I think that in the army someone from the honest ones could remain.
          Where will the honest come from in the Army if they are not in society?
          1. Al_lexx
            Al_lexx 21 February 2014 17: 47
            +1
            Quote: Vladimir 70
            We need a military coup and a tough sweep of all the maydans. Those. I think that in the army someone from the honest ones could remain.
            Where will the honest come from in the Army if they are not in society?

            Those. Do you think that you can put an equal sign between the education of the self-consciousness of an officer and a businessman or a frank lumpen?
            An interesting point of view.

            I don’t know how it is in Ukraine, but from time to time I communicate with Russian servicemen (just in life and with the military men and military experts), I see more decent people among officers, than among civilians.
            In my opinion, this is about how to compare a defense worker and a trader with a clothing market.
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  • Bekas
    Bekas 21 February 2014 09: 48
    +3
    But the most interesting part of the tragedy will begin right now. After Kiev is taken by eurofascists, Crimea, most likely, will not agree with this state of affairs. It will not be a feigned and artificially fabricated one, but a real civil war. Perhaps the Crimeans will put Putin in an uncomfortable position by asking him for help, and here we will see how he will help the "brotherly people", because he promised. God forbid that it all came down to (((
    1. Neophyte
      Neophyte 21 February 2014 11: 03
      0
      In Crimea, 80% of the population over 50 years, and on the Maidan there
      Crimean hundred. Youth of Ukraine with brainwashed and
      there is little chance of a revival of the Russian world. By the way, Konstantinov, the head of the Rada of Crimea, spoke on a talk show on Solovyov, saying that the Tatars of Crimea are white and fluffy, which
      fundamentally wrong. So, uncle lied unscrupulously.
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  • muhomor
    muhomor 21 February 2014 09: 48
    +1
    Now that's it !! Rada capitulated! For Yanukovych, if he wants to retain power, there is only one way out: to dissolve the parliament until the Rada's resolution is ratified. But the medusa of the "shyshek" from the PR. They went over to the side of the "powerful people." The Russian border in the east is turning brown.
  • Aleksandr65
    Aleksandr65 21 February 2014 09: 49
    +8
    "Soldiers of the Center group are walking across Ukraine" "Not even seventy years have passed ...
  • 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 21 February 2014 09: 51
    +11
    Just called my sister in the Crimea. She lives in the village of Kacha, there is our military airfield. He says that so far everything is calm in them and in Sevastopol. But the military was ordered to shoot to kill, reinforced outfits were introduced. Marines came from the city and guard the village around the perimeter.
    1. Bekas
      Bekas 21 February 2014 09: 55
      +8
      It’s good, it pleases
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