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Yes, this is a war in the Libyan scenario. Ukraine has its own "Benghazi": fights ahead

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A few words about the unpleasant.

Although, alas, natural.

What happened in Kiev several attacks on weakened police departments in order to capture weapons - fortunately, so far without success, - and a traffic police patrol was shot in one of the districts, taking the weapon, you probably already know. That in Stanislavuva (Ivano-Frankivsk - ed.) Was taken by storm the local department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the cops (their own) were released with peace, but 120 AKM, very, very many cartridges and every harness socialized, is also not a secret. But the detailed details of the situation in Lviv, where the power has already completely passed into the hands of Bandera, is probably not known to everyone ...

So, Lviv turned into a full-fledged Benghazi. The buildings of the regional administration, the prosecutor's office and the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs were seized, the building of the SBU was torn down and “the group of people around 2000 people” was blocked and the base of one of the internal troops was attacked (30 soldiers were wounded, five of them were hard). At the moment, the territory of the military unit has already been captured by militants and partially burns. After negotiations with high military commanders, the soldiers were allowed to leave the base, surrendering all the ammunition to the fighters (shields, helmets, body armor, special equipment), and the weapons depot located nearby was sealed and now, under the agreement, was taken under protection by soldiers of the explosives and militants .

At the moment, there is a tendency to send replenishments to the capital of Ukraine. So, from a stopped train Lviv - Kiev was seized around 30 – 40 armed with knives and pneumatics of militants. At the entrances to Kiev, several trucks with bullet-proof vests, helmets and the like were detained, while on the Zhytomyr highway at the moment there is a battle between Western "paratroopers" and the reinforced traffic police station blocking their way, and the "paratroopers" used automatic weapons. Additional forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs are being pulled into the conflict zone.

Let's call a cat a cat.

This is not even rebellion, but war. It is still small, but already war, and civil war, since both from one and the other side of the barricades are still citizens of one, united state. So it began in Bosnia, in Libya, in Syria, and there is no reason to hope that this cup will bypass Ukraine. Rather, there are some reasons, but I don’t see them, because Bandera needs the whole country, and two-thirds of the country do not want Bandera.

In such a situation, all kinds of negotiations about some kind of “political settlement” are no longer meaningful, since nothing depends on the three losers in Kiev. The control over the events without prior arrangement passes to the territorial Kurbashis, currently formally headed by the well-known Sashky Bilym, but there is no special doubt that the small private armies of the type known from the Volynskaya hundreds and Narnia events in Kiev will soon be crushed. , "Vikings" and many others that we just have to hear about.

It is easy to understand that in this situation any early elections lose all meaning, even because of the transparency and legality of the procedure in the five western regions is out of the question. In fact, the immediate task of the current moment, the solution of which allows Kiev to retain (to clean which is still possible) and gain a foothold in the “uninfected” areas, urgently forming support groups, is introducing an emergency for the Ukrainian authorities with the right to lose.

Otherwise, no way. To count on the suppression of insurrection by persuasion and negotiations is already meaningless, just as it is meaningless to try to suppress the insurrection on its base territory with military force. If power does not do this, it is likely that the process will proceed at the regional level. With clear consequences.
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  1. valokordin
    valokordin 21 February 2014 06: 25
    -63%
    It is time to submit the problem to the Security Council on the creation of a no-fly zone over Ukraine, after which Russia should abstain from voting. It will be aesthetically pleasing and diplomatic.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 21 February 2014 06: 28
      +36
      Quote: valokordin
      It will be aesthetically pleasing and diplomatic.

      I'm sorry request In this case, it will be tolerant and liberal. am Minus mine hi
      1. Orel
        Orel 21 February 2014 06: 37
        +28
        Yanukovych is already drained to the fullest. The Rada adopted a resolution on the cessation of anti-terrorism actions and the return of all armed forces and law enforcement units to their places of permanent deployment. This is the final. In this situation, Yanukovych has only one way out - to disperse the parliament, but he will not go for it, and probably it is not necessary. He was betrayed by his own deputies. Power has already surrendered. I think you and I need to reckon with the nationalist and Russophobic Ukraine on the model of Estonia. This is a matter of the next few years.
        1. Siberia 9444
          Siberia 9444 21 February 2014 07: 11
          +33
          When I saw this news, I just almost felt .... Yanukovych is the same scum as that trio! Drown your state in blood !!!!!!!! My God Save this People!
          1. major071
            major071 21 February 2014 10: 20
            +28
            Vityunya - follow you and mu.dila
            Your policy will not lead to good
            For Ukraine you dug a grave
            For bucks selling your own people
            God will punish you for spinelessness
            For the blood of the fighters shed by you
            Who so did not wait for an order from you
            Standing with shields in front of a brutal crowd
            And you, sitting in a warm office
            Trembling for bucks on their accounts
            And something bleated about the Maydown ban
            And mumbled on legitimate power in the news
            You yourself have long been trapped
            Trying to play with opposition dolls
            And received from them non-childish toys
            With which you can not cope
            You missed the moment, rocking on the toilet
            And split the country west and east
            Now you are tied with the blood of the Berkut
            And your rating is already soaked ...
            1. UzRus
              UzRus 21 February 2014 10: 43
              +12
              It is necessary to send this poem to Yanukovych and sign "The people of Ukraine devoted to you" ...
              1. German
                German 22 February 2014 05: 32
                +1
                Yes, Yanyk, as a matter of fact, is on a drum: an alternate airfield (excuse me, "litanka") has probably been in store for a long time ...
            2. Arberes
              Arberes 21 February 2014 10: 47
              +10
              Quote: major071
              And your rating is already soaked ...


              What the hell is a dog-rated?
              Its an outhouse cabinet!
              Togo look your head off
              Fucked up that you can "president"!

              It would be funny if it weren’t so scary!

              Sad jokes! Hello Friends! hi drinks
              1. major071
                major071 21 February 2014 11: 01
                +7
                Hello namesake! hi Yes, what kind of jokes are there already, they are already crowded!
          2. Master_Lviv
            Master_Lviv 21 February 2014 11: 58
            +10
            If Yanukovych does not drown in the blood of the rebels, then in the future there will be much more blood - checked in Libya and Syria. Pogroms are already going on in Kiev, the 7th hundred self-defense of the Maidan refused to obey the order.
            1. Mature naturalist
              Mature naturalist 21 February 2014 15: 13
              +5

              And in the meantime:
              The Kharkov governor decided to organize a congress of deputies of the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine.
              “On the initiative of VOS“ Ukrainian Front ”on February 22, a Congress of Deputies of all levels will be held in Kharkov Southeast regions, the city of Sevastopol and Crimea", Said Dobkin.
          3. Setrac
            Setrac 21 February 2014 20: 06
            +1
            Quote: Siberia 9444
            When I saw this news, I just almost felt .... Yanukovych is the same scum as that trio! Drown your state in blood !!!!!!!! My God Save this People!

            In fact, the country is drowned in blood by Western, American militants, and their minions from western Ukraine.
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        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 07: 12
          +11
          Quote: Orel
          Rada adopted a decree on the cessation of anti-terrorism

          This is not a law; this is a recommendation text with which Yatsenyuk can wipe.
          1. ed65b
            ed65b 21 February 2014 08: 22
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Orel
            Rada adopted a decree on the cessation of anti-terrorism

            This is not a law; this is a recommendation text with which Yatsenyuk can wipe.

            Hello Alexander. for some reason it seemed to me too. BP is losing legitimacy. If not lost.
        4. Vladimir.z.
          Vladimir.z. 21 February 2014 07: 13
          +9
          Quote: Orel
          Yanukovych is already being drained .... The parliament adopted a resolution on the cessation of anti-terrorist acts and the return of all armed forces and law enforcement units to their places of permanent deployment. This is the final. In this situation, Yanukovych has only one way out - to disperse the parliament, but he won’t do it,


          This is a paralysis of power - that Yanukovych, that the Rada is simply not able to make responsible decisions and seek their implementation, and this kills the remnants of the law enforcement system of Ukraine and the entire state power of the country ... And Bandera and other "opposition" are taking revenge ....
        5. dark_65
          dark_65 21 February 2014 08: 09
          +1
          so if ..then not to merge it?
        6. CALL.
          CALL. 21 February 2014 08: 27
          +7
          Quote: Orel
          I think you and I need to reckon with the nationalist and Russophobic Ukraine on the model of Estonia.

          And where will the southeast of Ukraine go? There, the population reaches for Russia (seeing the youngsters raving on the Maidan), and realizing their life in the Russian world.
        7. varov14
          varov14 21 February 2014 10: 40
          +4
          "because the Banderaites need the whole country, and two-thirds of the country do not want the Banderaites." --- Someone has to manage the herd, the shepherds were fostered, the sheep can be slaughtered as needed.
        8. ultra
          ultra 21 February 2014 10: 55
          +6
          Quote: Orel
          Yanukovych is already drained to the fullest.

          To be more precise, he merged on his own initiative! hi
        9. Gorinich
          Gorinich 21 February 2014 11: 18
          0
          It is no longer Yanukovych’s case, with this layout, the Crimean branch is 100%, the eastern regions will still fluctuate. No wonder they sent their ships to the Black Sea ...
        10. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 21 February 2014 11: 45
          +4
          Quote: Orel
          Yanukovych already drained in full

          he leaked himself
        11. Associate Professor
          Associate Professor 21 February 2014 12: 57
          +2
          Quote: Orel
          Yanukovych is already drained to the fullest.

          Yes, he merges everything. It is clear that this is Gorbachev 2.0. I think ours needs to get in touch with the military, if there are those who care about the fate of the country. Need a military coup, as in Egypt.
        12. ele1285
          ele1285 21 February 2014 15: 06
          +3
          Quote: Orel
          Yanukovych is already drained to the fullest. Rada adopted a decree on the cessation of anti-terrorism

          The next step will be happy to pose the question. We will give out the rope to Yanyk, and let the soap bring from the house.
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      3. pensioner
        pensioner 21 February 2014 07: 23
        +3
        Quote: Ruslan67
        Minus mine

        I support. Hello Ruslan.
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 21 February 2014 07: 35
          +4
          Quote: retired
          Support.

          Yura drinks I didn’t even doubt hi
      4. denson06
        denson06 21 February 2014 11: 18
        0
        It sounds sluggish, but the situation is such that in 20 years Russia cannot now openly intervene in an armed conflict ... it's like in a family, in which there was love, tenderness and mutual understanding yesterday ... then the family quarreled and provoked a divorce, and after 20 Russia has come this way, and the "son" says - mom is raising her daughter in a wrong way .. and dad can only keep silent ... but where have you been for 20 years, dad ?!
        All dad, this is not your family anymore, but it turns out to be close and dear to you people ... relatives .. But another dad feeds and educates them for 20 years ... that second father from the West ..
        But there’s no one to blame .. or let us pass the blame for the upbringing on the pupils ... no one wanted a war, as it turns out ..
        One can only admire the fortitude of the guys from Berkut and pray for Ukraine ... for our brothers and sisters .. and even for those who have not been educated .. hi
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 07: 11
      +12
      Quote: valokordin
      It will be aesthetically pleasing and diplomatic.

      I haven’t read such nonsense here for a long time.
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 21 February 2014 07: 12
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I haven’t read such nonsense here for a long time.

        Enlightened? And he is not satisfied yet negative
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 21 February 2014 07: 44
          +5
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Enlightened?

          About how many wonderful discoveries we have ....
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 21 February 2014 07: 48
            +5
            Quote: Tersky
            How many wonderful discoveries are to us ...

            ... prepares the enlightenment of two .. or three what fool laughing
    3. pensioner
      pensioner 21 February 2014 07: 22
      +12
      Quote: valokordin
      It will be aesthetically pleasing and diplomatic.

      Actually, a tragedy is happening in Ukraine, the scale of which we have yet to feel. And practicing wit on this subject is somehow not good ...
    4. goody
      goody 21 February 2014 08: 16
      +3
      Is this a joke, or is it bad for the author after yesterday?
    5. jjj
      jjj 21 February 2014 08: 20
      +12
      By the way, the governor of the Kharkiv region is looking for legal "hooks" to arm the people
      1. varov14
        varov14 21 February 2014 10: 47
        +3
        During the war, not hooks, but weapons are sought after. Winners are not judged, and they will not allow themselves to be judged. The army is the only legitimate body, it is time to take power into our own hands and do a full sweep of all groups, and then introduce democracy and call for elections.
    6. Dimonanet
      Dimonanet 21 February 2014 09: 49
      -1
      It looks like this tactic will now be IMHO:
      Yanukovych will fulfill all the requirements of Geyropa and the USA!
      They said to remove BB and Millicia, let him clean!
      Let's see what happens after that! continue ... pogroms ... fires ... robberies ... killings !!!
      Then we ask directly to the forehead of all these freaks what to do next ???
      And we will transfer all responsibility for this batch to GEYROPU AND USA !!!
      Having clearly designated them as ENEMIES !!!
      1. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 21 February 2014 10: 38
        +3
        besides tactics there is blood, intimidating the silent majority is not so difficult ... with the ready-made Gestapo men
    7. Dimonanet
      Dimonanet 21 February 2014 09: 49
      0
      It looks like this tactic will now be IMHO:
      Yanukovych will fulfill all the requirements of Geyropa and the USA!
      They said to remove BB and Millicia, let him clean!
      Let's see what happens after that! continue ... pogroms ... fires ... robberies ... killings !!!
      Then we ask directly to the forehead of all these freaks what to do next ???
      And we will transfer all responsibility for this batch to GEYROPU AND USA !!!
      Having clearly designated them as ENEMIES !!!
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    9. Altona
      Altona 21 February 2014 11: 33
      +1
      Quote: valokordin
      It is time to submit the problem to the Security Council on the creation of a no-fly zone over Ukraine, after which Russia should abstain from voting. It will be aesthetically pleasing and diplomatic.

      ----------------------------
      Are you crazy chtoli? After all, it will fly to us ...
    10. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. 21 February 2014 12: 42
      +3
      Everything became clear to everyone that Ukraine as a state came to an end, the first blood spilled after it would be followed by much, much blood. East and south now understand in kind what they will have if these scumbags come, they must decide and make decisions and do it quickly. The inaction of the highest authority in a deadlock situation is tantamount to crime and betrayal, which we now see. Yanukovych is fighting not for Ukraine, but for his and his children billions of dollars in Western banks. Only now we need to think about what Russia should do to us, there are millions of Russians there who will be subjected to the most severe humiliation and this fucking, pid-th west with a clever expression will turn a blind eye. There is no choice whether we or they they are.
      1. internatio
        internatio 21 February 2014 18: 20
        +2
        Unfortunately, you are right. In Crimea, we already have a panic. We are most interested in: yes, we will not give up, but how to defend ourselves?
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 21 February 2014 22: 25
          0
          Quote: internatio
          Unfortunately, you are right. In Crimea, we already have a panic. N
          Alexei, what is there in Kharkov? Then I read I don’t know whether to believe or not!
    11. Skif
      Skif 22 February 2014 06: 16
      0
      I would have looked at you, literate, when the militants came to the house (and the Benders were always very cruel). Then - come to the security council
  2. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 21 February 2014 06: 26
    +26
    A couple of months ago, many of our colleagues in the forum from Ukraine said that everything would be in order and they themselves would deal with these hooligans what I don’t want to gloat -But at what point did the cormorant turn into well-trained militants? And where have you been? For claudia?
    1. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 21 February 2014 13: 15
      0
      Quote: Ruslan67
      But at what point did the cormorant turn into well-trained militants? And where have you been? For claudia?


      for clave for claudia!

      They amused their pride, virtually asserted themselves and yelled at Russia.
  3. valokordin
    valokordin 21 February 2014 06: 31
    +5
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Excuse me. In this case, it will be tolerant and liberal. My minus

    Thank you, your minus to me is like 10 pluses, I just want to remind you how Russia voted in Libya.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 21 February 2014 06: 39
      +7
      What about plus? tongue I can also remind who then voted and said that enough to nightmare business wassat But we didn’t seem to cling to each other and now the situation is not request don't you find?
      1. valokordin
        valokordin 21 February 2014 06: 42
        +6
        Quote: Ruslan67
        What about plus? tongue I can also remind who then voted and said that enough to nightmare business wassat But we didn’t seem to cling to each other and now the situation is not request don't you find?

        Something I do not remember, for me the business is speculation and exploitation.
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        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 21 February 2014 06: 46
          +7
          Quote: valokordin
          Something I do not remember, for me the business is speculation and exploitation.

          Dmitry A. Medvedev, who imagines himself to be the president and successfully merged Libya request And as for business, so for me too negative So what about the plus? what
    2. Tatarus
      Tatarus 21 February 2014 07: 07
      +3
      Why talk to him. He seems to have accepted himself. And it looks like a lot of valokordin
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 21 February 2014 07: 14
        +3
        Quote: Tatarus
        And it looks like a lot of valokordin

        God forbid he will transfer to hawthorn - they sell it in larger containers wassat
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 07: 14
      +3
      Quote: valokordin
      I just want to remind you how Russia voted in Libya.

      Do you understand the difference between Libya and Ukraine?
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 21 February 2014 07: 16
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Do you understand the difference between Libya and Ukraine?

        It seems Libya is where they pour sad or pour what And Ukraine is when it reached the edge laughing Again, I wrote something wrong? fool
        1. Tatarus
          Tatarus 21 February 2014 07: 22
          +2
          So ... who was whistling about hawthorn?
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 21 February 2014 07: 25
            +3
            Quote: Tatarus
            So ... who was whistling about hawthorn?

            I did not whistle laughing I was giving a container slip drinks
      2. GDP
        GDP 21 February 2014 08: 48
        +4
        Do you understand the difference between Libya and Ukraine?

        In Libya, the economy was stronger and the government was tougher ...
        In general, the statements of our government are really similar. - "That this is an internal affair of their state, that we should not interfere, that the people will decide for themselves ..."
        “Mentally, we are with you and for you, but we will not do anything” Is that something we can sing from the rostrum.
        The only thing that is encouraging is that in Ukraine, unlike Libya and Syria, there is no oil and Russia is still nearby, at least geographically.

        We are waiting for the end of the Olympiad ... And more decisive action on the part of ours. Faster already ...
      3. varov14
        varov14 21 February 2014 11: 04
        +3
        Here I think that just in the same crisis situation, Medvedev would not differ much from Yanukovych
    4. Maxsh
      Maxsh 21 February 2014 10: 11
      +2
      Russia then had a different president.
    5. Setrac
      Setrac 21 February 2014 20: 10
      0
      Quote: valokordin
      Thank you, your minus to me is like 10 pluses, I just want to remind you how Russia voted in Libya.

      Too shy to ask, who is Libya for us? And nobody, and to call her in any way.
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 21 February 2014 06: 35
    +18
    How quickly events are developing, I believe all these scenarios were calculated in advance in the ANALYTICAL CENTERS of the US special services, BECAUSE ALL OF THIS HAPPENS not according to the logical laws of destabilizing society.
    Even a simple citizen can see the logic of further events without any supercomputers, I am simply amazed at the inaction of the PUBLIC SERVICES, which should have foreseen all this and destroyed the radicals’s actions at the root — IMPOSE.

    SOCHI TOLOKONNIKOVA and ALEKHIN staged a performance with their own sabbath — the correct organization of the rebuff to these provocateurs pleases — the message ECHO MOSCOW about the fine to the Cossacks will amuse me.

    For me, for each provocateur (there are not so many of them), you need to put in a special group with whips, a BLACKBERRY or a bucket of sewage for the appropriate re-education - it's time to use methods of influencing these people (within the framework of the law of course) that can sober them up to the roots.

    And even in RUSSIA, the source of future upheavals is social injustice, corruption, bribery, and then, we must deal with this not with ostentatious processes, but with more effective methods that are practiced all over the world.

    Serdyukov at large means I have no faith in the fight against corruption in the state, and KREMLIN drives itself into a corner without doing anything.
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 21 February 2014 06: 45
      +15
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      SOCHI TOLOKONNIKOVA and ALEKHIN staged a performance with their own sabbath — the correct organization of the rebuff to these provocateurs pleases — the message ECHO MOSCOW about the fine to the Cossacks will amuse me.

      In light of recent events, soon such as they will shoot like dogs, including broadcasting corporations! angry
    2. dddym
      dddym 21 February 2014 07: 21
      +2
      Cossack already fined.
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      3. Same lech
        Same lech 21 February 2014 07: 25
        +5
        And why not fined RUSSIAN WRIGHT-power where are you ??

        How can I respect the authorities for such punctures ??
      4. Horst78
        Horst78 21 February 2014 07: 35
        +8
        Quote: dddym
        Cossack already fined.

        Yes and figs for this fine. It’s not a pity to pay for this and 10 shafts.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 21 February 2014 07: 50
          +8
          And I didn’t feel sorry for KAZAKA. am

          A provocation was arranged by Tolokonikov and Alyokhin, into their jail and a LARGE PENALTY for an unauthorized event, WHERE DO WE WATCH IT ?? am
          1. jjj
            jjj 21 February 2014 08: 16
            +2
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            WHERE THE WEAVERS ARE LOOKING

            And Tkachev politically correct said that he regrets the incident
          2. Clegg
            Clegg 21 February 2014 10: 42
            -11%
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            And I didn’t feel sorry for KAZAKA.

            How can you beat a woman? I do not understand. You could twist your hands, but why beat that?
            1. kotvov
              kotvov 21 February 2014 11: 25
              +5
              tell me, where did you see women? THIS IS PROVOCATORS.
        2. Samson911
          Samson911 21 February 2014 07: 59
          +13
          Bravo Cossacks !!!! I think you can throw off and help a compatriot overcome this penalty!
          1. Midshipman
            Midshipman 21 February 2014 09: 45
            +7
            By the way, it's a good idea - how would it be to organize such a flash mob with the payment of a fine to the Cossack - let no one have any doubts on whose side the citizens of Russia are. And if the Cossack still "cooks" on this, there will be a class at all, everyone will have to stick their tongues in the ass. I would take it, but I don't own the subject (But what if you open a fundraiser right on the site?
            1. zzz
              zzz 21 February 2014 10: 45
              +4
              Quote: Midshipman
              By the way, it's a good idea - how would it be to organize such a flash mob with the payment of a fine to the Cossack - let no one have any doubts on whose side the citizens of Russia are. And if the Cossack still "cooks" on this, there will be a class at all, everyone will have to stick their tongues in the ass. I would take it, but I don't own the subject (But what if you open a fundraiser right on the site?


              And not funny, and very correct.
            2. Svetlana
              Svetlana 21 February 2014 12: 41
              +3
              I am for! Who knows (can find out) his full name?
              Send a transfer using the Golden Crown - Money Transfer service it is possible at any of the 40 000 points of the system in the Russian Federation, the CIS and Georgia, as well as via the Internet.
              To send a transfer, you need only an identification document and money. You also need to know the full name of the recipient, country and city of receipt of the transfer. The exact address of the recipient is not required - just specify the city. Your recipient will be able to choose at what point it will be more convenient for him to receive money.
          2. Midshipman
            Midshipman 21 February 2014 11: 47
            +8
            I suggest the site administration post a topic with details for transferring funds to compensate fines to the Cossacks. Plus who is for, let's show our citizenship.
        3. ale-x
          ale-x 21 February 2014 10: 02
          +3
          Where to get in line and give a receipt ........
      5. ultra
        ultra 21 February 2014 10: 59
        +5
        Quote: dddym
        Cossack already fined.

        For the pleasure of striping this scum with a nail, I personally would pay any fine!
    3. calocha
      calocha 21 February 2014 08: 36
      +4
      Everything has been thought out long ago. "Iranians" (well-trained terrorists) are being transferred to Romania. Newest tanks are being sent to Germany .. A couple of ships (one seems to be stranded off the coast of Turkey) are entering the Black Sea. Rassmussen makes incomprehensible statements .. They shake the situation as they can ...
    4. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 21 February 2014 13: 04
      +3
      I think everyone is now waiting for concrete actions precisely from Russia and everyone is afraid to name what!
  5. Tommyufa
    Tommyufa 21 February 2014 06: 38
    +5
    For some reason, I have confidence that all this will last until February 24, OI will close and you can act. Russia did not surrender to Ossetia. Ukraine and even more so.
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 21 February 2014 07: 16
      +4
      Then, probably, it will be too late.
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    3. common man
      common man 21 February 2014 07: 19
      +25
      Ossetia itself did not want to surrender, unlike Ukraine. Residents of Kiev, who went to the Maidan at the end of the 13th year and created the appearance of support for the Maidan by "the whole" population, taste the joys of Europeanization. This is just the beginning. The berries will be in front. If someone thinks that “right now the good Bandera’s will come to power and happiness and prosperity will come in Ukraine, the factories will work, the peasants will plow the land, the officials will stop taking bribes, and the oligarchs (most likely new, because every revolution is done first of all to change owners) will begin to care first of all about the workers, and not about themselves, their loved ones, deeply mistaken. ”There are no miracles in the world.
      And Russia. It’s hard to say that it can. Troops to enter? Stupidity. Yanukovych did not want to use his forces of law and order, and even more so he would be afraid of help from Russia. In general, Yanukovych is a separate conversation. It’s hard to think of a greater betrayal of one’s own people. But then, as he stupidly framed the guys from the VV and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, he himself should be put in between the Maidan and the police for half an hour. I think no more.
      Russia is the only one that can economically and morally support the South-East of Ukraine, if they themselves choose. Although there may be other methods. There (in the Kremlin) are not fools. At least I would like to think so.
      1. 77bob1973
        77bob1973 21 February 2014 13: 14
        +3
        The introduction of troops in such a situation is not stupid, we should not forget about protecting the naval base in Sevastopol - this is already the basis, I generally am silent about covering up an almost open border from gangs of terrorists.
  6. Igor39
    Igor39 21 February 2014 06: 41
    +5
    Ukraine is falling apart.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 21 February 2014 08: 07
      +13
      and even worse. Galicia will never want to "fall apart" from the East. Who will feed them then? Banderlog needs ALL Ukraine. We need our own appointed governors, police and army leaders.
      The East should unite and not let anyone be removed from any posts !!!
      And no "voluntary resignations." Well, maybe, perhaps, if such a "resigned" lie detector passes. You yourself know how you can put pressure on any person.
  7. Name
    Name 21 February 2014 06: 47
    +19
    Quote: Orel
    Rada adopted a decree on the cessation of anti-terrorism

    What was most interesting after (!) The visit of the "EU delegation", thereby betraying the people of Ukraine, betraying the employees of "Berkut", those who for 3 months at the cost of their health and lives defended these, now we can say definitely-servants of the EU and the US State Department.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 21 February 2014 07: 37
      +6
      me, at times, the PPC how infuriates the richness of the Russian language. because instead of "the European Union is pursuing a policy of" double standards "" "should be -" the European Union is a parasailing lie "
    2. Mihail29
      Mihail29 21 February 2014 08: 57
      +2
      Weakly said, these are not servants, these are the most recent, dirty prostitutes, Judas.
  8. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 21 February 2014 06: 49
    +13
    Only an army can help Ukraine right now, as in Egypt! hi
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 07: 16
      +11
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      Only army can help Ukraine

      Is she in Ukraine? The combat-ready parts on the fingers count.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 21 February 2014 08: 25
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
        Only army can help Ukraine

        Is she in Ukraine? The combat-ready parts on the fingers count.

        500 people landing, that’s the whole layout.
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 21 February 2014 08: 27
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Fighting parts on the fingers count

        Everything depends on the commanders! Hence the guys ’mood!

        In the Khmelnitsky region, servicemen of the 8 separate special forces regiment of the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine today, February 20 of 2014, prevented an attempt by the protesters to seize the building of the Security Service of Ukraine. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. "40 special forces soldiers successfully evacuated weapons, ammunition and explosives from the building and prevented bloodshed. Thanks to the high professionalism of the special forces, the operation was carried out without the use of force," the statement says. According to the Ministry of Defense, after the removal of the weapons, attempts to storm the building stopped.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139258.html
        In Kiev, Kursk continues to block military units. At the moment, more than 100 people are located near the military unit. Departure is blocked by three trolleybuses, tires. They brought a table with food. At another exit from the military unit, there was also a picket. Three people are sitting on the roof of the unit, all in black, probably a sniper. They say that they agreed with the leadership of the unit that the picket is peaceful, but if there are provocateurs, they will open fire. The military said that in the event of an assault on a military unit, they would be forced to open fire to prevent the seizure of weapons depots.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139261.html
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 21 February 2014 11: 33
          +3
          The military said that in the event of an assault on a military unit, they would be forced to open fire to prevent the seizure of weapons depots.
          that’s the way it is, there are too many traitors in Dota, whoever calls you and all the weapons are in the hands of thugs. hold on, why I have hope for Kharkov.
    2. jjj
      jjj 21 February 2014 08: 18
      +5
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      Only an army can help Ukraine right now, as in Egypt!

      In Egypt, the army is at war, and in Ukraine - the merchant
  9. rocketman
    rocketman 21 February 2014 06: 50
    +29
    Quote: Igor39
    Ukraine is falling apart.

    that's for sure
    Letter from Galicia from the Southeast.
    Galicia, listen, let's get a divorce! No noise, no blood, and public fights, Why do we need a mess and beaten faces? Let's get apart like people, decently. I fed you for a long time, I didn’t get wild, I regularly filled the budget year after year, And you were fond of idleness on Maydan calling me a slave and a freak. You are directing your views to the West, I, you know, are dear to Belarus and Russia. Let's get out. That's better. So it is necessary. Like Czechs, Slovaks are easy and beautiful. Poland has been waiting for you for a long time, Here you will tell about fascism in detail, But in the center of Brussels you will arrange a mess and debauchery. I am sure Europe will appreciate it. Galicia, listen, let's get a divorce! The time has come. To summarize. You-on the Maidan hang free to hang out. And to me to work. Your Southeast.
  10. Hott
    Hott 21 February 2014 06: 51
    +11
    The worst thing is that for any outcome, everything is shitty. Well, the scum of the grave and the people of patience and perseverance.
    .
    1. internatio
      internatio 21 February 2014 18: 36
      +3
      In addition to patience and perseverance, oh, you need so much. It is difficult to reassure children of school age, from 13 years and older. The old women are crying. Alarmism, unfortunately ... did not prevent, although they worked. You can’t write much openly. Hatred among politicians.
  11. nemec55
    nemec55 21 February 2014 07: 08
    +11
    Without a man with iron eggs, there will be Syria Libya and maybe some kind of nonsense. But you see, you don’t just have to drown the bucha, it would be amazing to teach the Americans a lesson by slipping the same amount of money by their side and even better in whatever state.
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 21 February 2014 07: 19
      +6
      Absolutely right! Close them up with the same kind of script according to their script somewhere in Texas! Let them have some fun! Once forgot how to climb to others!
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 21 February 2014 08: 05
        +5
        separatists and they have hvat.tok they crush them with "extreme cruelty and utmost cynicism." in general, not looking back at all sorts of gatherings of genetic waste such as the UN, the European Union, etc.
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    3. alexander 2
      alexander 2 21 February 2014 07: 56
      +4
      Americans are like a mad dog, they can't help but bite. Therefore, it is necessary to pull out their teeth so that there is nothing to bite. "Teeth" is their dollar. There will be no dollar, there will be no US and the world will breathe easier. Therefore, I propose to abandon the dollar as a reserve currency. Do not use dollars, you are strengthening the USA. Better is the Mongolian tugrik, but seriously that is the euro or the yuan.
  12. Tatarus
    Tatarus 21 February 2014 07: 10
    +11
    Now everything is simple, here are friends and there are enemies.
    And there are no halftones and the world is black and white.
    And all my friends will close ranks with me.
    Well, the enemies opposite the first row.

    There are no others here, all lies and guano.
    I respect those in my ranks frozen.
    I would have buried other colored ones for a long time.
    And forgot, henceforth, their cooled down.

    All m * s now shut up their mouths.
    And somewhere there shaking, dropping.
    For all the traits have reached red.
    I bring death to enemies without any doubt.
    Tatarus 2014
  13. Known who
    Known who 21 February 2014 07: 12
    +5
    Worst of all, the seeds of nationalism lay in the central and eastern regions. The masses of media are significantly fueling the masses, all sorts of Shusters work out paid silver pieces trying to preach that everything that is happening is right and a revolution is necessary.
  14. pensioner
    pensioner 21 February 2014 07: 17
    +5
    Yes, this is a war according to the Libyan scenario.

    Well no. This is just the collapse of the country. His Gaddafi is not there. And NATO’s military assistance was not needed. Themselves managed ...
    Judging by the morning news, Yanukovych merged himself and merges the country.
    1. kagorta
      kagorta 21 February 2014 07: 38
      +8
      Gaddafi is there, but with a Ukrainian accent. Kaddafovich is his last name. He, too, is still flirting with the West, playing democracy. After the decree of the Rada, he also only had to get into the hands of "peaceful demonstrators", endure sexual violence and be exhibited in a refrigerator in Lviv as an exhibit.
      You know what pisses me off, his governor in the West sits in the basement, beaten and humiliated, and this "big man" doesn't even have half a word about this, he didn't send Alpha to release him, they didn't show a single appeal to the people ... request
      And so everything is fine, provided that Southeast and Odessa do not stick their tongues in the ass, but they will meet the Galician people just as the Galician people behave in their regions and want to in them.
      Split Ukraine, split the glory !!!! angry bully
  15. valokordin
    valokordin 21 February 2014 07: 32
    +4
    Quote: retired
    Yes, this is a war according to the Libyan scenario.

    Well no. This is just the collapse of the country. His Gaddafi is not there. And NATO’s military assistance was not needed. Themselves managed ...
    Judging by the morning news, Yanukovych merged himself and merges the country.

    Where is this toilet, where Mazepovich merged, you must immediately create a geological expedition, find this dishes and send it to Germany to the Nobel Peace Prize winner and let them rejoice. The labeled Gorbach case lives and conquers. The traitor lived, is alive and will live.
  16. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 21 February 2014 07: 32
    +8
    from the Don.
    The author is right! The west of Ukraine was practically not controlled by Kiev. Never! Even during the Soviet Union, residents swore at her for the socialization of the land, for the forced creation of collective farms, etc. I know my wife from there. So Lviv was the informal capital of the West of Ukraine, so they and remains! The capital of lawlessness, armed, trained militants! And you won’t throw them with caps! Unfortunately, you can’t do without a lot of blood in Ukraine! And the sooner they understand this in the Southeast, they will unite, they will be ready for military operations, arm themselves, the more likely to save their homes, families. Banderlog will not spare anyone!
  17. morpogr
    morpogr 21 February 2014 07: 37
    +6
    Sorry for the people, scared for the country.
  18. innei
    innei 21 February 2014 07: 43
    +6
    [quote = borisjdin1957] from the Don.
    The author is right! The west of Ukraine was practically not controlled by Kiev. Never! Even during the Soviet Union, residents swore at her for the socialization of the land, for the forced creation of collective farms, etc. I know my wife from there. So Lviv was the informal capital of the West of Ukraine, so they and remains! The capital of lawlessness, armed, trained militants! And you won’t throw them with caps! Unfortunately, you can’t do without a lot of blood in Ukraine! And the sooner they understand this in the Southeast, they will unite, they will be ready for military operations, arm themselves, the more likely to save their homes, families. Banderlogs will not spare anyone
    well, they still have to strain to break, and if they order, I’ll turn this gang into a dust with one company
    1. borisjdin1957
      borisjdin1957 21 February 2014 08: 43
      +1
      from the Don.
      God forbid!
  19. Zhaman-Urus
    Zhaman-Urus 21 February 2014 07: 51
    +6
    The resolution on the withdrawal of the security officials was adopted by the Udar and Batkivshchyna factions. They do not have a quorum and they can wipe themselves off with this paper. The funniest thing will be today "Regionals" promised to come with their full complement to a new meeting on the return to the 2004 constitution. Now, if the regionals merge there, then I think the "Berkuts" will hammer away at the bases, taking their families, and then the kiyans will receive all the delights of Benghazi - not the police, not firemen, but only hordes of orcs from the west. PS Yesterday I saw the lists of Maydauns killed, in my opinion not a single one from Kiev, all from the west and one from Dnepropetrovsk.
  20. pensioner
    pensioner 21 February 2014 08: 11
    0
    I’ve climbed the news on various resources here and couldn’t understand: what is the current situation in Ukraine? A lot of controversy ... There is no time to figure it out. Maybe someone can summarize: what and how. Will there still be elections or not? Is Yanukovych leaving or not? Is the police leaving or not? Well, etc ...
  21. Weniamin
    Weniamin 21 February 2014 08: 18
    +7
    Ukraine cannot cope with this "Western Ukrainian Chechnya" alone.
  22. ed65b
    ed65b 21 February 2014 08: 28
    +7
    Last night, 7 people were killed from the Crimea. Yanuk sits and talks, they do not have their own swan. I basically do not understand how even having beaten off cues he is going to return galicia ??? ALL UKRAINES ARE NO MORE. you have to admit it and think what to do next.
    1. internatio
      internatio 21 February 2014 18: 41
      +2
      In Simferopol in the evening on the main square there was a farewell to the dead. Candles Tears The portraits show heroes, forever young ...
  23. mountain
    mountain 21 February 2014 08: 36
    +4
    Until the east is drawn in, no security officials will help. Golden eagle, litmus test, between the east and the west.
  24. saag
    saag 21 February 2014 08: 40
    -1
    well, chop off all communication in Kiev for a day and see how it all will be
  25. Egoza
    Egoza 21 February 2014 08: 42
    +4
    Yura! Yanukovych will not go anywhere and will not go away! Regarding yesterday’s VR meeting in shortened form ...

    "What should the president do in this situation?

    He should give a clear assessment of these actions. If deputies opted for such an unconstitutional way of amending the constitution, the president can appeal to the constitutional court to declare such a decision unconstitutional. He has grounds for dissolving parliament.

    But can it be created? Even some regionals are already ready to form a coalition government ...

    If we returned to the constitution of the 2004 of the year, then there is a norm - a coalition is the result of the unification of factions of political forces that were elected during the popular elections. There are no words about the majority, which in the current parliament are 50%. Thus, majority voters become deputies of the second grade, since they do not have the right to accept in the formation of the coalition. And to form a coalition, you need 226 votes. The opposition, without realizing it, drove itself into a corner. If she assures that a constitutional coup took place in the 2010 year, then she should not have passed the election law as amended by the 2011 year, which introduced a mixed voting system.

    It turns out that the president can completely ignore the Verkhovna Rada?

    If the president sees that there is a threat to the territorial integrity of Ukraine, he can call new parliamentary elections and form a new government after the elections. He can and will agree to an early presidential election. But if all power goes to early elections, I think it will be a big problem for the country. There will be a problem with the CVC. In June, 15 members of the Central Exhibition Complex will expire, and it is impossible to re-elect them early. Who will then form the new election rules? Shall we create a new Fairgrounds? And will we have two of them? This is not a solution to the problem. "
    http://www.versii.com/news/297826/
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 21 February 2014 08: 50
      +2
      Hello Lena! And what about this:
      The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine condemned acts of violence in Ukraine by 236 votes of the deputies. The deputies adopted a resolution restricting the ability of law enforcement agencies to suppress protests in the country. The decision prohibits the SBU anti-terrorist operation, the introduction of a state of emergency and the use of weapons against citizens. Deputies demanded to unblock the streets, return the units of the explosives to their bases and prohibit the use of troops against people. The Cabinet of Ministers is required to cancel the restriction on the entry of cars into Kiev. From the prosecutor's office - to release and close criminal cases against detained protesters, starting on November 21, 2013. The decision shall enter into force upon adoption.
      Read more here: http://112.ua/politika/verhovnaya-rada-osudila-nasilie-v-ukraine-i-zapretila-sbu
      -provodit-antiterroristicheskuyu-operaciyu-24358.html
    2. Name
      Name 21 February 2014 09: 20
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      can the president completely ignore the Verkhovna Rada?

      But only if it can ... recourse After all, the owners want to leave him:President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych should not resign, as the country needs him to carry out political reforms. Such an opinion, the US ambassador to Ukraine Jeffrey Payette, who is in Kiev, expressed 20 on February February in an interview with CNN ...
      see http://kommersant.ru/doc/2414007
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 09: 23
        +4
        Quote: name
        : President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych should not resign,

        Well, that means that he promised Amer that he had previously polished his crotch.
  26. uizik
    uizik 21 February 2014 09: 30
    +8
    Where are the comments from Ukraine? They swept the country! Now have your tongue stuck in your ass? The love of money won!
    1. internatio
      internatio 21 February 2014 18: 46
      +2
      Crimea is still calm. but. There are elements of panic. and, Do not judge us under the comb. Everyone has something different. And not everyone can do anything ...
  27. Rinat 1
    Rinat 1 21 February 2014 09: 31
    +13
    Most of all in this situation, I feel sorry for the fighters of law enforcement agencies. For 3 months they stood in the cold, crippled, died for their country, and their rotten politicians took and poured into the toilet. God bless them REAL DEFENDERS OF THE FATHERLAND.
  28. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 21 February 2014 09: 44
    +5
    What can we say: the situation in Ukraine is "profukami," the slug Yanukovych turned out to be a traitor to his people, there are simply no pro-Russian political leaders in central and western Ukraine. If Russia succeeds, we can defend the left bank and Crimea. Further OSCE, UN - long negotiations. It's a shame, so many people were killed!
  29. Neophyte
    Neophyte 21 February 2014 09: 47
    +9
    The second republic is heading for the abyss! Many koment authors call
    Syrian and Libyan options. I do not agree! The leaders of those countries were and are real peasants, and Yanukovych is a typical Mazepa!
  30. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 21 February 2014 10: 26
    +3
    It began in Bosnia, Libya, and Syria, and there is no reason to hope that this cup will bypass Ukraine.

    Let's be honest with ourselves. You can not compare not with Libya, nor with Syria. Understand that the leaders there did not sell the Ministry of Internal Affairs and soldiers. In Syria, they are still fighting rebels. What the hell is a civil war with whom? Tell me the power that will resist the Nazis? Someone on the forum call such a force. Just do not point to the golden eagle and BB. As soon as a new government loyal to the West appears, they will be ordered to leave. Under Yanukovych they would be given such an order. There is not a single general who disobeys.
    Talking about civil war is a view from Russia. Hope that at least someone will resist. When in Kiev they began to kill guys from the golden eagle and VV no one stood up for them.
    After the ceasefire and the establishment of a new government, moreover, no one will go to overthrow the Nazis. The task of the West is to set up a puppet government, no one will go to war to the east. The task of the east and south is to plow in factories, in mines, fields. They still work and do not want war. The guys from Kharkov and Donetsk just want that they would not climb to it that's all. They will not come to them, the task of the West is almost complete. They do not need a civil war in Ukraine. They need cheap labor and they will get it. Russians wake up. find the strength to say goodbye UKRAINE and begin to strengthen the western borders. Thank God Belarusians are still with us !!!
    1. Andrey L
      Andrey L 21 February 2014 11: 57
      +1
      Unholy - you are definitely not a Saint! Are you the Enemy or? What does it mean to say "GOODBYE UKRAINE" ??? !! Your call "Russians wake up. Find the strength to say FAREWELL UKRAINE and start strengthening the western borders. Thank God the Belarusians are still with us !!!", like slop from the throat of a liberal ....
      1. Nevyatoy
        Nevyatoy 21 February 2014 22: 34
        +1
        And you face the truth before criticizing. Ukrainians made their choice. You will not be forcibly sweet. They carry passports of the country where officially the national hero (since 2007) is a Nazi and Hitler's henchman. The Russians, due to recent events, suddenly became aware that there was a monument to Bandera somewhere in Kharkov somewhere (literally this month they thought of demolishing it).
        Listen to what they say in the camera in their southeast Ukraine. If only we did not climb, we will fight back. Have you heard someone shout in Kharkov that if we come to the aid of Donetsk, and in Donetsk we come to the aid of Kharkov?
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    3. internatio
      internatio 21 February 2014 18: 50
      +2
      Write off us early, Russians. Especially the southeast. Which will never agree to work west.
  31. Maximka7
    Maximka7 21 February 2014 10: 31
    +3
    Maximka7 RU  Today, 10:23 New


    In the current conditions of paralysis of the central government and the actual collapse of the state in the South-East of Ukraine, in my opinion, it is necessary to promptly take a number of measures aimed at ensuring the stability of the public administration system and the safety of citizens.
    It would be advisable to:
    1) In the foreign policy field, accept a statement on behalf of the population of the south-eastern regions of the country on the rejection of the violent change of the constitutional system under the pressure of foreign factors and with the direct participation of armed ultra-right nationalist groups united by the idea of ​​destruction and violence
    2) Conduct a coordination meeting of the heads of interested regions and decide on the appointment of a political "talking head" on their behalf. I am not aware of the details of the internal political situation, but it, apparently, could have been Tsarev or someone else from similar characters.
    3) At the regional level, adopt a resolution on the temporary reassignment of the internal affairs bodies and units of internal troops deployed on their territories to regional centers in order to ensure the safety of citizens until the situation in the capital is normalized and the LEGITIMATE government of the country is restored.
    4) To begin patrolling in order to prevent the penetration of armed groups of rebels into the controlled territory in order to destabilize the situation and carry out acts of intimidation against the local population and to secure military and special facilities under the protection of loyal police / self-defense forces. Practice shows that officers who command military units, as a rule, are not able to decide on active defense.
    5) Demand from the Russian leadership (although it is, of course, Moscow is preparing decisions) both from the neighboring and fraternal state to envisage measures aimed at ensuring the security of the regions of Ukraine directly adjacent to Russia.
    It is just as food for thought. But, I think, the Southeast has few options. It is now necessary to rally the ranks and build a clear coordination structure for joint actions for competent and operational decisions in the implementation of the scenarios:
    1) a coup d'état, "early elections" and the coming to power of Westerners
    2) Further plunging the country into uncontrolled chaos
    1. internatio
      internatio 21 February 2014 18: 59
      0
      Thousands of public organizations, dozens of parties, hundreds of sects, dozens of confessions, dozens of nationalities - what kind of unification of the South-Eastern and Crimean forces can you dream of ?! Until they climb on us in a brazen attack on the "mineo" and freedom - they will not rally. How you want me to be wrong ...
  32. porevith
    porevith 21 February 2014 10: 39
    +2
    Quote: uizik
    Where are the comments from Ukraine? They swept the country! Now have your tongue stuck in your ass? The love of money won!

    You are also from Ukraine, which means you also pissed her off. Well, if so smart, let's say what to do ??? and what do you do yourself ????
    1. internatio
      internatio 22 February 2014 00: 28
      0
      Guys let's be friends. The famous character spoke. Nezya about everything to inform the whole world - i.e. forum ... But how much should be said fellow countrymen. Write in person.
  33. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 21 February 2014 10: 50
    +1
    Quote: porevith
    Quote: uizik
    Where are the comments from Ukraine? They swept the country! Now have your tongue stuck in your ass? The love of money won!

    You are also from Ukraine, which means you also pissed her off. Well, if so smart, let's say what to do ??? and what do you do yourself ????

    Why are you fighting Ukrainian brothers. Well, you sucked the country to the Nazis, what can you do now. Go to the graves of grandfathers, even ask for forgiveness. Can you handle this?
  34. RUSLAN39
    RUSLAN39 21 February 2014 10: 52
    +6
    on the Zhytomyr highway at the moment there is a battle of the Western "paratroopers" with the traffic police blocking their way, and the "paratroopers" used automatic weapons. Additional forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs are being pulled into the conflict zone.
    - As I understand it, real hostilities began. How do you sleep a rag Yanukovych, dead in a dream do not come?
  35. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 21 February 2014 11: 00
    +4
    I'm afraid that the war has already been lost, Ukraine did not have its own Colonel
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 21 February 2014 20: 22
      -1
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      I'm afraid that the war has already been lost, Ukraine did not have its own Colonel

      yes you are dreaming. Want to get off easy. War has just begun
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 22 February 2014 00: 04
        0
        Who are you?
        What does it mean to get off easily?
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 22 February 2014 00: 40
          +1
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Who are you?

          You, then YOU, the answer is addressed to you.
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          I'm afraid the war is already lost

          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          What does it mean to get off easily?

          This means not everything is so simple. And I would not have hoped that like "everything is lost" "the war is over" and the Russians will not get into the Ukrainian war.
  36. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 21 February 2014 11: 17
    +6
    Guys!!! Russian !!! Brothers !!! Who is from Russia !!! I propose no longer to recognize such a state as an independent Ukraine !!! This is an ugly mistake of history. !!! Let’s boldly talk about the separated and lost province of Russia !!! Who agrees???
    Our grandfathers shed blood for Kiev, and the Ukrainians brothers sold it to the Nazis. This is a spit in our direction. In the direction of memory of our heroic grandfathers.

    PS I would like to hear the opinion of those who live in Russia. I think the opinion of those living in Ukraine should not be taken into account. Bandera’s big x ... th has long been put to their opinion. They swallowed it. All hopes for Russia !!!
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 21 February 2014 11: 21
      0
      it's all fine, but ...
      Ukrainians made a choice between bad and terrible
      not to know how it is? !!!
      I am indignant, but what specific proposals are on your part?
      1. Nevyatoy
        Nevyatoy 21 February 2014 11: 31
        +1
        It’s not a shame to admit it, but for us (Russia), the partition of Ukraine is now beneficial, otherwise we will lose it all. Now we need to think about the strategic interests of Russia. We need to start creating our own fighters, sponsor them, arm them. And at the same time, one must proceed from the fact that the Eastern and Southern regions have lost their right to independence.
  37. serge
    serge 21 February 2014 11: 23
    +3
    Current events in Ukraine will clearly show who Putin really is. Ukraine is not Syria.
  38. Leprechaun
    Leprechaun 21 February 2014 11: 37
    +3
    I will bring
    Your arguments are more valuable than this voice.
    Do not plebeians know what is not a reward
    The bread they distributed was distributed
    Do not deserve it? Who but the people
    When we called him to war
    With an enemy threatening the heart of the whole country,
    Didn’t want to go out the gate?
    And in war, how did he show courage?
    In riots and rebellions alone.
    Hardly those empty accusations,
    Which he presented to the Senate,
    He was given the right to a generous gift.
    So what? As I understood the kindness of the Senate
    Stomach mobile? All her actions
    They tell us clearer than words: "There are a lot of us.
    We wanted bread - and with fear
    We were given bread "
    . We have humiliated ourselves
    The mob prompted their own power
    Honor our cowardice for cowardice.
    They will crack the Senate door soon,
    And the crows will burst there in a flock
    And peck the eagles.

    William Shakespeare "Coriolanus"
  39. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 21 February 2014 11: 37
    +2
    Quote: NeSvyatoy
    We need to start creating our own fighters, sponsor them, arm them. And at the same time we must proceed from the fact that the Eastern and Southern regions have lost their right to independence

    we will get the second Chechnya and bloodsuckers among the fraternal people
    a barb with an ax n is cut off for this there is a manicure scissors
  40. Master_Lviv
    Master_Lviv 21 February 2014 11: 38
    +1
    There are no police in Lviv, hundreds of self-defense are being recruited - as they say, to protect schools, hospitals and other important facilities.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 21 February 2014 11: 42
      +6
      Quote: Master_Lviv
      to protect schools, hospitals and other important facilities.

      from whom?
      1. Terrible ensign
        Terrible ensign 21 February 2014 15: 43
        +2
        From themselves, apparently ...
    2. internatio
      internatio 21 February 2014 19: 04
      +1
      We are also recorded in the detachments of public protection. order, as in DND. Not even funny from that. Not even sad. Anger takes!
  41. Gerchard
    Gerchard 21 February 2014 11: 44
    +11
    I think that Ukraine is not a state at all.
    How can it be allowed for Amer to convene deputies of the Verkhovna Rada for a meeting.
    I can imagine what a howl would rise if Lavrov had a similar demand
    appealed to congressmen or senators of the United States.
    But Ukraine was already split, since the Soviet era.
    Now you need not chew snot, but make a decision? refuse to submit to the Center,
    as in Lviv, create your own government and local government, the capital is Kharkov.
    Crimea has never been "Ukrainian", and according to the agreement it was transferred not to Ukraine, but to Russia.
    It's time to implement this international treaty, and let everyone shut up.
    1. internatio
      internatio 21 February 2014 19: 08
      +2
      Few people hear us, Crimeans. It’s popular organizations, and not created by the authorities or at the direction of. But - do not give up! We are RUSSIAN!
  42. kostofan
    kostofan 21 February 2014 11: 46
    +5
    Be patient! Sochi closes soon .....
    1. zzz
      zzz 21 February 2014 12: 44
      0
      Do you believe this will change anything?
  43. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 21 February 2014 12: 40
    +1
    Benghazi will not, yanuk passed all
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 21 February 2014 20: 25
      -1
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      Benghazi will not, yanuk passed all

      Yushchenko passed all of them along with the orange ones, and Yanyk is dissolving a full spoon.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 22 February 2014 00: 07
        0
        Quote: Setrac
        Yushchenko passed all along with the orange

        Of course, I apologize for what Yanuk did the last week, I’m silent about his SARS, if a person is not able to make decisions not to get into hell with the leaders.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 22 February 2014 00: 36
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Of course, I apologize for what the last week Yanuk did, I am silent about his SARS, if a person is not able to make decisions, hell doesn’t go into the heads.

          Apparently he has his own plan, maybe he is a bad plan, a scum one, and so on. We do not know his goals!
  44. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 21 February 2014 12: 49
    +4
    So far THIS, believes that he is the President of Ukraine and makes decisions.

    So far, THESE consider that they are the opposition and are fighting for the interests of the people of Ukraine.

    Here ETI comes to power in Ukraine.


    1. calocha
      calocha 21 February 2014 15: 05
      +2
      The leaders would shoot the eggs, I think it would have calmed down ... the truth is, after immediately you need to plant all the active Maidan mass on the bunk.
    2. internatio
      internatio 21 February 2014 19: 09
      +1
      In the bottom photo - that scum,
      What you want to see in the sight ..
  45. Volozhanin
    Volozhanin 21 February 2014 13: 00
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fVrgA9z_6s А может прав он?
  46. philip
    philip 21 February 2014 14: 42
    +2
    Ukraine is not Libya. Foul Ukraine means fake RUSSIA. Libya implies airspace control coalition ships with tomahawks, imported special forces. Russia is unlikely to be able to do this.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 21 February 2014 20: 26
      0
      Quote: Philip
      Russia is unlikely to be able to do this.

      You're not Russian? American Shypien? What is the syllable?
  47. Volozhanin
    Volozhanin 21 February 2014 14: 48
    +1
    I wonder why Sasha’s beaten is still alive?
  48. parus2nik
    parus2nik 21 February 2014 14: 55
    +2
    The war came to the borders of Russia
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 21 February 2014 20: 07
      +3
      Quote: parus2nik
      The war came to the borders of Russia


      From the Donbass.
      What did you want? Marzipan? Plum in caramel sauce? From the opposing side, colossal money poured in for brainwashing, and the Russian Federation tried to support even the informational Russian people living there at least in the slightest degree. It is understandable that it was incredibly difficult to accept, at least semi-officially or unofficially, the leaders of the Russian and Russian-speaking - those in power in the Russian Federation preferred to limp how they were "accidentally" thrusting expansive bullets into the liver on a "hunt" (Kushnarev) or put in a cage (Markov), and how many unfaithful were trampled - simply uncountable.
      It is clear that peeling through the eyes like an acorn from under the hat on the butt of athletes in Sochi is much nicer than taking the trouble away from ourselves.
      Well, brothers, you are next in line for democratization. We will die slowly and individually.
  49. parus2nik
    parus2nik 21 February 2014 18: 34
    +1
    And now, what else is interesting, if anyone remembers when there was a war in Libya, how many were those who demanded the death of Gaddafi, supported the "rebels", the war in Libya continues .. where are these sufferers, the people of Libya ..? They switched to Ukraine ..
  50. Djubal
    Djubal 21 February 2014 18: 42
    +4
    And everyone thought that after Syria there will be Iran ... but in how the State Department turned the matter