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Southeast of Ukraine, which we lost

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Southeast of Ukraine, which we lost



Excerpt from a non-existent novel


In the elegant Donetsk restaurant, the table was full of meat dishes and salads. Suddenly, Eugene got up and demanded that the musician perform a song by Shufutinsky. Dmitry went to the bar to ask the bartender to turn down the volume of the TV.

- Turn off this MOV, we have a language here!

“Why, Russian channels disappeared in the morning, although they promised to“ Field of Miracles ”and“ Time ”to include,” the bartender answered, unaware of the historical context of his answer.

Meanwhile, Yevgeny, under the song of Shufutinsky, let out a mean male tear. Yesterday during the "gathering" they lost a lot of guys.

- Marry, calm down! Yesterday we didn’t let the Solntsevskys go! Now Moscow has nothing to do with it! - Dmitry tried to reassure him, not knowing that they cut the last informal connection with big Russia in the shadow sphere.

Remembering now this conversation of 1994, Dmitry turned pale. His wife just called in tears, said that their son Oleg, together with the Donetsk fan movement "Ultras", went to support Euromaidan, where there were fights. Only now Dmitry had the opportunity to better examine his son’s room. The Russian teenager by nationality in the room on the wall next to the FC Shakhtar fan scarf hung almost the same colors of the UPA red and black flag, which read “Glory to Ukraine!” Death to the enemies!" Dmitry fell to his knees and cried. For all the years after the birth of his son, he so rarely went with him to the mass grave of Soviet soldiers, where Oleg’s great-grandfather was buried. More often than not, he himself came here to his grandfather and drank a glass of vodka. Not far from there was a cemetery where his friend Eugene, who was killed in 1996, was resting. Dmitry realized that despite his criminal past, formidable appearance and connections, his son was taken from him, rewriting the cultural and historical the code. Dmitry on his knees by the bed of his son, cried and was internally indignant, because he had given him to a Russian-language school! How could this happen ?! Unfortunately, in these troubled days for the state of Ukraine, many even decent Russian parents of their children in southeastern Ukraine made a discovery for themselves: “Learning math in Russian does not mean being Russian!” Without the great Russian literature and history of Russia, the fate of their children, culturally and mentally, was a foregone conclusion.

The ideology of farms and regional centers of Western Ukraine under the mask and flag of social protest conquered the hearts of the industrial Southeast. Its victims were the children of former criminal authorities, children of military officers from Soviet Russia before 1991, and other Russian-speaking social groups. The ideology of consumption in the Russian-speaking regions revealed the mental code in order to fill it with other meanings and concepts. Teachers of the history of Ukraine with Russian surnames who, in order not to lose work in 90, silently agreed to a new interpretation of history, now mentally for themselves chose the side of confrontation. After all, everything that seemed "innocent", "impossible" and existing only on the pages of a history textbook, was approaching their Russian-speaking cities and zones of cultural comfort ... For shouts of "Down with Yanukovych!" there was a project of building a Russophobic mono-ethnic state.
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  1. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 21 February 2014 06: 12
    +22
    Brothers! Stop! Wake up! And save your country! Boiling up! There is no strength to watch how the beautiful city of the WORLD is destroyed! in which I unfortunately last time was in the year 83 of the last century hi
    1. Orel
      Orel 21 February 2014 06: 31
      +13
      Brothers! Stop! Wake up! And save your country!


      They have already made their choice. Let it be. History will show us who was right. And Russia, as it was before, as it is now, will be so in the future! So many times we were buried, and we, like a phoenix bird, always reborn from the ashes. Even without fraternal Ukraine, Russia was a great state and will remain the same. Because the state is not officials, these are people, and we are all strong people and our state is strong, since we can’t break us in Ukraine ... The teeth of the West haven’t grown like that, and they will never grow, they will, so we beat ...
      1. Magadan
        Magadan 21 February 2014 07: 19
        +18
        "THEY ARE"???
        Enough of the nonsense about the "people's choice" "the people deserve the one they chose," and so on. etc.!!! How many times have you (or I), seeing injustice and lawlessness, retreated and were silent, because for this chaos was the majority ???
        Yes, in general, the vast majority are normal people. But they are ALWAYS passive. We all have families and none of us goes anywhere. And aggressive thugs ALWAYS unite in a flock. And so they win, because there are always many against each of us ALONE!
        1. Orel
          Orel 21 February 2014 07: 39
          +10
          Enough already nonsense about the "people's choice" "the people deserve the one they chose"


          Empty talk. Today, the one who does something wins. I agree that they do not have a majority, but that no one wants to defend the country because he has a family, children, work is also a position. So everyone is happy with everything. Silent means consent. Power is also chosen only by those who come to the polls, and not those who do not go to them because he has a family, children, work ...
          1. 31231
            31231 21 February 2014 08: 29
            +4
            I completely agree. Everyone hopes to sit out and that they will not touch and will resolve itself.
            Too far gone. Too the power of Ukraine and the media sowed and raised Svidomo.
          2. ed65b
            ed65b 21 February 2014 08: 32
            +3
            Quote: Orel
            Today, the one who does something wins.

            Gold words. one hundred +
      2. alexdol
        alexdol 21 February 2014 10: 04
        +4
        Orel SU "They have already made their choice. So be it."
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        Now you are on the platform "SVIDOMITOV", saying these words !!! Who is "THEY" - PULL-IN-SIDE, EGG, yes KLYCHKO? BUT "they" and most are completely different things! I just got tired of explaining it to adults!
        Besides, the current "Ukraine" is, first of all, a PART OF RUSSIA! What does it turn out to be: for SYRIA, we stand up, but for our RUSSIAN people there are NO !!!
        Then you better think about your "Russian" government, maybe it is not Russian at all, and does everything contrary to the interests of the RUSSIAN PEOPLE? I have already cited the statement of Bismarck, who said that the Russian people, no matter how cut it open with all sorts of "international" treatises, quickly unite like particles of cut mercury ... And it seems that they just don't want to UNITE us? After all, now much, if not everything, depends on the position of RUSSIA, on its power ...
        1. Neophyte
          Neophyte 21 February 2014 10: 18
          0
          Do not despair, brother, everything is ahead!
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        3. Orel
          Orel 21 February 2014 10: 26
          -1
          Now you are on the platform "SVIDOMITOV"


          I don’t know why you decided so, but I’ll say that the principle that was laid down in ancient times has not been canceled - the strong does what it wants, and the weak endures what it has to endure. If in Kiev there are no opponents of the fascist rebellion, then they deserve it and this is their silent choice. Russia's position has nothing to do with it. This is a different country. What we can? Send troops? What for? How does this help? I don’t know, it will only get worse. Therefore, it was necessary to beat the enemy with the same weapon, through the media, NGOs and the support of the pro-Russian opposition. BUT we have not done this for 20 years. Here is the result.
          1. alexdol
            alexdol 21 February 2014 10: 50
            +2
            Orel SU "I don't know why you decided so,"
            -------------------------------------------------- ------
            And what is there to know, you just repeated the words of these MONSTERS! They endlessly attribute their "choice" to all the people! I will continue further. Apparently you are still young, judging by the words "This is another country"? Yes, this is not another country, but the same RUSSIA! Quite a lot has been written on this topic here, I will not repeat myself. But I completely agree with your last words:
            “Therefore, it was necessary to beat the enemy with the same weapon, through the media, NGOs and the support of the pro-Russian opposition. BUT we did not do this for 20 years. This is the result.

            But all that you have listed completely on the conscience of the current Russian government! That is why the question arises: IS IT RUSSIAN ???
            1. striker
              striker 21 February 2014 16: 38
              +1
              Quote: alexdol
              But all that you have listed completely on the conscience of the current Russian government! That is why the question arises: IS IT RUSSIAN ???

              Yes, thinking people no longer have any questions about "she is Russian, or not Russian"...



              By the way, if you noticed, the Russian deputies and the Minister of Foreign Affairs Lavrov were most hysterical about the slogan of the Maidan participants "Beat the Jews!"

              This is direct "topic number 1" in Russian Jewish media
              1. alexdol
                alexdol 21 February 2014 21: 58
                0
                striker (2) "This is direct" topic number 1 "in Russian Jewish media"
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                Thank you, we made you happy, not everyone has been able to turn off their brains yet! I’ll note right away, why do you think our Kharkiv head of the regional administration turns to Russia for help? All for the same reason, this is "mister" dobkin. Someone is now saying thank you to him for this, but I know why he does it, precisely because of the slogans you quoted "Bey Zhidi"! And to make everything clear to everyone, let me remind you that it was he who contributed to the establishment of the memorial cross for the "UPA warriors" in Kharkov! And today for them the smell of "fried" is the answer to all questions! What can you expect from these corrupt T-Va-rai, but today he has become just a hero for many ...
      3. Vlaleks48
        Vlaleks48 21 February 2014 10: 21
        +1
        Quote: Orel
        Even without fraternal Ukraine, Russia was a great state and will remain the same.

        What is happening in Ukraine now, will slip into our "republics" so that it will not seem a little! Little Russia has now surrendered, not without our participation, a generation of brainwashed Slavs has grown up. And today gentlemen like Brzezinski are celebrating victory!
        Today, the Ukrainian media are yelling about the hand of Moscow and the "bloody" Putin! Again, Russia is to blame for everything! Logically, we must protect ourselves, the Russians living in Little Russia! But the owners from across the ocean threaten us with our "frail" ruble, saying do not bury! We do not belong to ourselves, we get off with half measures. Therefore, we cannot help our relatives by blood, but neighbors alien in spirit!
        LATE DRINKING BORJOMI !!! AND HELP SHOULD HAVE BEEN YESTERDAY !!!
    2. Dimonanet
      Dimonanet 21 February 2014 09: 55
      +1
      It looks like this tactic will now be IMHO:
      Yanukovych will fulfill all the requirements of Geyropa and the USA!
      They said to remove BB and Millicia, let him clean!
      Let's see what happens after that! continue ... pogroms ... fires ... robberies ... killings !!!
      Then we ask directly to the forehead of all these freaks what to do next ???
      And we will transfer all responsibility for this batch to GEYROPU AND USA !!!
      Having clearly designated them as ENEMIES !!!
    3. Dimonanet
      Dimonanet 21 February 2014 09: 55
      0
      It looks like this tactic will now be IMHO:
      Yanukovych will fulfill all the requirements of Geyropa and the USA!
      They said to remove BB and Millicia, let him clean!
      Let's see what happens after that! continue ... pogroms ... fires ... robberies ... killings !!!
      Then we ask directly to the forehead of all these freaks what to do next ???
      And we will transfer all responsibility for this batch to GEYROPU AND USA !!!
      Having clearly designated them as ENEMIES !!!
    4. 222222
      222222 21 February 2014 11: 04
      +1
      "Kiev is the mother of RUSSIAN cities" .. And that says it all ..
  2. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 21 February 2014 06: 12
    +4
    sad romance turns out. about fathers and children
  3. valokordin
    valokordin 21 February 2014 06: 15
    +13
    Remember the talented rhymes of the democrat dermokrat of the editor of the Ogonyok-Korotich magazine "Take me across the Maidan", and this was back in the 80s. Well, they finally transferred them across the Maidan. This is how betrayal is born and not only in Ukraine. Oh, how in 90 they admired the criticism of the Communist Party, how much mud they poured on it, which they waited for a nice democracy. How right Joseph Vissarionovich was.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 21 February 2014 06: 19
      +10
      Quote: valokordin
      How right was Joseph Vissarionovich.

      He had Lavrenty Pavlovich-Marshal of the Soviet Union soldier hi
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 21 February 2014 09: 50
        +2
        Quote: Ruslan67
        He had Lavrenty Pavlovich-Marshal of the Soviet Union

        And General Vasily Stepanovich Ryasny. It was he who put things in order in Lviv in the 44th. within a month. It is by the same methods that are shown in "Liquidation".
  4. Humen
    Humen 21 February 2014 06: 16
    +4
    Thriller and war will be even more sad, where the brother will go to his brother. Ukraine again fell into the horror of civil war. And I'm afraid it will be very difficult to stop already = (They brought the country and people ...
  5. Alex66
    Alex66 21 February 2014 06: 34
    +4
    The saddest thing is that nothing will most likely change, they will also turn Russians into "Europeans" in Ukraine, the authorities will promise rapprochement with Russia, state status for the Russian language, etc. but there will be no business, politicians will be bought out and they will sell their Homeland, justifying it with beautiful words about a common European home. Unfortunately, there is only one salvation option - blood.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 February 2014 07: 51
      +3
      Quote: Alex66
      The saddest thing is that nothing is likely to change,

      Will change! Only in which direction - time will tell!
      Odessans will never recognize the government that came to power on the bayonets of nationalists. This was stated by the head of the organization "Resistance" Rostislav Barda, the correspondent of Polemics reports. According to him, residents of the entire former Novorossia, as well as the East of Ukraine, hold the same position. He noted that the inhabitants of Odessa are already holding consultations with their like-minded people in all the South-Eastern regions of the country. He recalled that the first capital of Ukraine was Kharkov, not Kiev.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139187.html
      XXXX
      Zaporizhzhya City Council calls on the President of Ukraine to end the bloodshed to hold an all-Ukrainian referendum. “In order to stop the bloodshed, to return the state to peace, we urge the President of Ukraine and citizens of Ukraine to resolve the issues of returning to the 2004 Constitution of the year, the feasibility of the federal structure of the country and determining the foreign policy by holding an all-Ukrainian referendum,” the statement says. The appeal puts forward a demand for “leaders of all political forces” “to abandon force scenarios and return to the negotiating table for a constructive dialogue in search of a way out of this situation”. The appeal was signed by representatives of all political forces represented in the Zaporizhzhya City Council - PR fractions, Batkivshchyna VO, KPU, as well as the Ridne Misto faction, and an authorized representative of non-factional deputies.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139138.html
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 07: 58
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        Zaporizhzhya City Council calls on the President of Ukraine to end the bloodshed to hold an all-Ukrainian referendum

        Elena, not a referendum, not an election will not do anything right now. If they are not in favor of scumbags they will simply declare rigging and that's it. Yes, and the West will start yelling about the non-recognition of such elections and referenda, they are on the side of the minority, which means holding such a democratic figni, as a referendum is unacceptable.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 21 February 2014 08: 06
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          the West will start yelling about the non-recognition of such elections and referenda,

          So the West already does not recognize the power!
          Deputies of the Ivano-Frankivsk Regional Council expressed no confidence in the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych and recognized him as "illegitimate head of state who does not have any legal authority." The basis is "intentional criminal actions of Yanukovych against the Ukrainian people and the Ukrainian state."
          Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139254.html
          XXXX
          Earlier, the Lviv region expressed the same spirit. There will be a referendum - so at least there will be a real political piece of paper, "the people want," on the basis of which it will be possible to act, no matter how much this memory would like! (You will see, they will hold a referendum).
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 08: 27
            -1
            Quote: Egoza
            There will be a referendum - so at least there will be a real political piece of paper,

            Elena, well, who will conduct it? Look at those who are standing on the maidan, there are a lot of downs. In Western regions they won’t conduct it at all, and therefore for them it is an empty phrase.
          2. Svetlana
            Svetlana 21 February 2014 09: 01
            +2
            I also do not want to be pessimistic, as the author of the article, you can’t give up! There must still be gunpowder in the powder flasks in the Southeast! The chances of victory are melting before our eyes, this is true, but you must not give up! For the sake of the desire to stop the bloodshed, bandits and fascists should not be allowed to power! It is impossible! I hope that Crimea will not allow such a scenario, and our president will find a way to help him in this. If this does not happen, then all his successful foreign policy moves are worthless. Then we, Russia, as a state, will not last long.
      2. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 21 February 2014 08: 02
        +3
        Elena, at one time already held a referendum to save the USSR or not. As far as I remember, the vast majority were for the USSR. And where do we live now? Each in its burrows ... hi
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 21 February 2014 08: 13
          +3
          Quote: Rurikovich
          As far as I remember, the vast majority were for the USSR. And where do we live now?

          Now it won't work like that! Then Kravchuk "reassured" us that "it doesn't mean anything, we are still in the CIS." what kind of rods "about integrity" will not lead.
          1. Svetlana
            Svetlana 21 February 2014 09: 03
            +1
            Elena! I support you! You think correctly!
          2. Svetlana
            Svetlana 21 February 2014 10: 18
            0
            Elena! I support you! You think correctly!
      3. zzz
        zzz 21 February 2014 08: 38
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Will change! Only in which direction - time will tell!


        Well done, Lena! People like you inspire optimism. It's early to say that everything will be bad. Time will put everything in its place! For more than 20 years, the Anglo-Saxons were preparing this scenario, and Russia was preoccupied with its problems. Therefore, in 3 months, of course, you can’t get rid of it in one fell swoop. But .. I think that Putin’s wounded pride just won't let him forget the biggest loss in his politics. And maybe not a loss. We still don’t know everything. Nevertheless, we count on our power.
        1. varov14
          varov14 21 February 2014 10: 17
          +1
          It's time for the siloviki and the army to wake up, they are the only legitimate organs - the flesh of the people. The rest have washed their hands or pretend to be some kind of activity. Make a complete clean-up of all groups, and then offer the people elections from a "blank slate". We must make a precedent in the Slavic world than we are worse than the Egyptians.
  6. rocketman
    rocketman 21 February 2014 06: 37
    +20
    author - unknown. from the network ...
    Letter from Galicia from the Southeast.
    Galicia, listen, let's get a divorce! No noise, no blood, and public fights, Why do we need a mess and beaten faces? Let's get apart like people, decently. I fed you for a long time, I didn’t get wild, I regularly filled the budget year after year, And you were fond of idleness on Maydan calling me a slave and a freak. You are directing your views to the West, I, you know, are dear to Belarus and Russia. Let's get out. That's better. So it is necessary. Like Czechs, Slovaks are easy and beautiful. Poland has been waiting for you for a long time, Here you will tell about fascism in detail, But in the center of Brussels you will arrange a mess and debauchery. I am sure Europe will appreciate it. Galicia, listen, let's get a divorce! The time has come. To summarize. You-on the Maidan hang free to hang out. And to me to work. Your Southeast.
    1. major071
      major071 21 February 2014 07: 57
      +10
      I wrote in another topic, but here it is more appropriate

      Black smoke above the houses
      The Nazis scream again
      What brothers happened to you
      Why do mothers hear crying?
      How did it happen that the same boys
      On Maidan stand for hours
      Or the West's "smart" books
      Have you drawn the line of the barricades?
      Maybe you just forgot everything
      How the native land moaned
      How enemies came to your home
      High boots treading freedom
      Well you rob, Slav brothers
      Tearing the country apart
      Or with a swastika a vile banner
      Have you been completely brainwashed?
      The memory of the ancestors treading boots
      And dancing on their bones
      You declared the brothers enemies
      and shout about this in the news
      Look around, what are you doing?
      Making mothers turn gray
      Freeze for a second, a minute
      And hear the march of rebellion.
      Not in the West the sun rises
      And not the west gave you freedom
      Only evil comes from him to you
      And the damned mos (k) al is guilty.

      November 28.01.2014, XNUMX
  7. BYKOV BORIS ARKADIEVICH
    BYKOV BORIS ARKADIEVICH 21 February 2014 06: 52
    +8
    Let's remember that Kiev is the "MOTHER OF RUSSIAN CITIES". The suffering of Kiev and Ukraine is our pain!
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 21 February 2014 10: 00
      0
      Quote: BYKOV BORIS ARKADIEVICH
      Let's remember that Kiev is the "MOTHER OF RUSSIAN CITIES". The suffering of Kiev and Ukraine is our pain!

      Kiev is of a male kind and cannot be the mother of Russian cities, it may be the father of Russian cities.
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  8. duchy
    duchy 21 February 2014 06: 56
    +4
    In volume 45 they didn’t finish it, now we are grabbing it, annoyingly. sad It is time to take full advantage of the power, and destroy the nits under the root.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 February 2014 07: 53
      +2
      Quote: duche
      It is time to take full advantage of the power, and destroy the nits under the root.

      It makes no sense to negotiate with those who are in arms trying to seize power in the country. This was aired on the program Sunday Night with Vladimir Soloviev. Special issue ”on the TV channel“ Russia 1 ”said the chairman of the Kharkiv Regional State Administration Mikhail Dobkin, the press service of the Kharkov Regional State Administration said. “Today it makes no sense to negotiate with those who are in arms trying to seize power in the country, be it the opposition or the leaders of extremists. Until they lay down their arms, until they unlock the captured buildings, no negotiations can be conducted with them. Negotiations are useless, as they do not fulfill their obligations, but only gain time, ”the chairman of KHOA emphasized.
      “Therefore, no sentiment is needed; one does not have to look at the reaction of the West. If such a situation had just begun to arise there, they would restore order within one day. It is necessary to bring to the streets of our country those who need to restore order, and without any pity or regret to those who took up arms, bring them to a fair trial. And if they resist, it means ending with them the way they end with terrorists in all countries of the world. This is the first and most important condition for order and stability to come to our country, ”the chairman of KHOA emphasized.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139152.html
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 21 February 2014 08: 39
        +4
        One only saddens despite all the loud statements of the heads and governors with the mayors of the guarantee that they will not merge there is no. And what about the people? it’s easier and more beautiful to watch from the shores of the azure gulf. Do you really believe that they are able to withstand Bendera and will not break ??? So far, from all these bureaucrats, only empty calls and chatter are heard. NO cases.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          21 February 2014 08: 52
          +2
          I agree with you. Can drain ...
        2. varov14
          varov14 21 February 2014 10: 28
          0
          There are and will not be cases, these leaders are authorized by the state - an empty place in extreme conditions.
    2. kenig1
      kenig1 21 February 2014 08: 46
      +1
      Yes, what have they not done with it, in Russia there are no Natsiks whose grandfathers fought? As always, we are the fairest, we don’t go to anyone with advice, and as a result, with advice backed by money, the West got into Ukraine’s affairs their entire independent history.
  9. Name
    Name 21 February 2014 07: 04
    +9
    While the West will take power in Kiev, the East and South of Ukraine must prepare for defense. Kiev at this stage is likely to remain for Westerners. While they will celebrate the seizure of power in the country, the country will plunge into the economic crisis. On the background default to the South and East of Ukraine will be the time to announce their withdrawal from the failed state. Let the naked West Ukraine feed itself, well, or from the budgets of the EU (Poland, Romania, Hungary). East and South will be able to feed themselves. In these conditions, one of the most Moscow’s likely steps should be operational production of about 25-30 million Russian passportsto give them to citizens of the East and South of Ukraine. Here is the most favorable thing you can do ... A word for the local authoritieshi
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 21 February 2014 07: 27
      +5
      I came to the same conclusion. Kharkov, hold on, it's your turn.
      If they do not take it in a snap, then most likely they will begin to dismiss your leaders one by one.
      Therefore - protect everyone who is in power in Kharkov !!!! According to FIGs, leaders now are not individuals, but above all, the legitimacy of the East, its connections, contacts, and methods of governance.
      You can not let Bandera put their own!
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 21 February 2014 07: 58
        +1
        Quote: Magadan
        Kharkov, hold on, it's your turn.

        Well done in Kharkov !!!
        KIEV. 20 February. UNN. A number of state institutions need to be moved outside Kiev. This was announced today during a direct line in the editorial office of the newspaper "Komsomolskaya Pravda" in Ukraine "by the head of the Kharkiv Regional State Administration Mikhail Dobkin, reports UNN.
        “I once said that Kiev, as a place of government, has already exhausted itself. It is required to move a number of state institutions outside the borders of the city of Kiev. Kharkov is the most prepared for this. Because, firstly, we were the capital at one time. Secondly, there are corresponding buildings, structures. Thirdly, there are a sufficient number of people who can work in state bodies, and individual institutions of state power would comfortably and very quickly adapt to the new conditions. But now all these conversations are already useless. that many institutions of state power in Kiev no longer work, they are physically destroyed, "Dobkin said.
    2. Magadan
      Magadan 21 February 2014 07: 30
      +1
      Quote: Magadan
      operational production of about 25-30 million Russian passports to give them to citizens of the East and South of Ukraine

      I agree, but the people should not immediately break into Russia! It is impossible to give so easily the lands watered with the blood of our ancestors. That is what the West is striving for - to get black soil without people.
      And we must give you all kinds of financial and other help!
      Consider how we can transfer money to you. Just for the maintenance of your families !!!
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 21 February 2014 07: 55
      +1
      Quote: name
      One of Moscow’s most likely steps should be the operational production of about 25-30 million Russian passports in order to distribute them to citizens of the East and South of Ukraine. Here is the most favorable thing you can do ..

      Moscow does not even consider the hypothetical possibility of the opposition coming to power in Ukraine. Russian diplomats are demanding that the leaders of the Ukrainian opposition immediately stop the bloodshed and begin negotiations. This was stated by spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry Alexander Lukashevich. Russia requires leaders of Independence Square in Kiev to stop the bloodshed and continue to search for peaceful ways to resolve the crisis, Interfax notes. “There is no doubt, and this is again shown by today's events, especially when the militants are increasingly using firearms, we are talking about a frank attempt at a coup or power seizure of power,” Lukashevich said.
      “We reaffirm our demand that the leaders of the square immediately stop the bloodshed and continue to search for peaceful solutions to the crisis without threats and ultimatums,” the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry said. The responsibility for the violence in Kiev lies with the radical militants, Lukashevich emphasized. “I clearly said that the main responsibility lies with militant radicals who have taken up arms and called for armed rebellion and the overthrow of power,” Lukashevich emphasized when answering the question whether the legitimate authorities of Ukraine are responsible for the violence in Kiev. Russia is puzzled why the world community does not respond to the neo-Nazi slogans of Ukrainian radicals. This was stated today by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Alexander Lukashevich.
      “We drew the attention of both the media and international politicians that for some reason there is no reaction on the part of the international community to the fact under which slogans the radicals go to the Maidan and are acting in Ukraine now. They are clearly neo-Nazi, ”the diplomat said. "The smell of anti-Semitism," which was noticed by international Jewish organizations, for some reason does not receive an adequate reaction from international politicians. " “Brown plague” is a phenomenon that we have destroyed through collective efforts in our time, and we don’t want it to be reproduced in new forms, ”Lukashevich emphasized.
      Moscow does not consider hypothetical scenarios of the opposition coming to power in Ukraine. “Nobody is talking about the elections, we are not considering the hypothetical scenario of the arrival of any opposition either,” Lukashevich told reporters on Thursday.
      The sanctions that the United States and the European Union threaten to impose against a number of Ukrainian leaders are illegitimate from the point of view of international law, the representative of the Foreign Ministry said. “As for the individual sanctions of the United States and the European Union, which they are now trying to operate on, then, from our point of view, and from the point of view of international legal justification for such measures, we consider them absolutely illegitimate,” said the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Alexander Lukashevich.
      “We very clearly draw the line that if sanctions are collective and are taken collectively by the UN Security Council - and only he is authorized to take and implement restrictive measures against states - in this sense we very clearly adhere to the commitments made,” the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs .
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139230.html
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 21 February 2014 08: 36
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        Moscow does not even consider the hypothetical possibility of the opposition coming to power in Ukraine.

        Moscow, sometimes does not see what is happening under her nose.
  10. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 21 February 2014 07: 12
    0
    from the Don.
    Yes, Ukraine is over the hill, and what is happening there, it makes no difference to me! But if you look inside the country, we will see the same discontent of the people pursued by the state’s internal policy. And the GDP doesn’t itch! After all, it can also explode here!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 07: 19
      +4
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      After all, we can explode!

      It will not explode, our people are smarter than Bandera and no one will turn Moscow into the likeness of Kiev. Yes, and there is no such supply from the EU and the USA.
      1. Samson911
        Samson911 21 February 2014 07: 39
        +5
        Yes, our president is not the same as Ukraine’s boots and is able to send a good doctor to the patient, and we have better medicines (the marsh one demonstrated it well). In addition, we (unlike Ukraine) remember well what price we paid in World War 2, but in Ukraine it seems to have forgotten.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 21 February 2014 08: 02
          +3
          Quote: Samson911
          Yes, our president is not the same as the boots in Ukraine

          President Viktor Yanukovych during talks with EU representatives expressed his readiness to hold early elections this year. This was stated by the Prime Minister of Poland Donald Tusk.
          Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139263.html
          XXXX
          There are no words! However, all the same, he still rests, promising that the first time negotiations took place 6 hours, the second time at night ... while it is not known what ended
          1. 31231
            31231 21 February 2014 08: 42
            +1
            Elena, the problem is that the next Yusch will come as a result of these elections and will begin to produce the next Svidomo youth. That's all. The real opportunity to confront is to nominate one strong candidate from the South and the East and win the info war. Russia will help you with this.
            So go for one candidate for the election, for the opp will go for different. I do not believe that the tritushki will come out under one banner, they have too many ambitions.
        2. Karabin
          Karabin 21 February 2014 08: 45
          0
          Quote: Samson911
          Yes, our president is not the same as the boots in Ukraine

          Of course not. He is the Great Strategist, the Grandmaster of geopolitical Chess, the Keeper of Spiritual Braces, etc. But why does the Genius of Geopolitics flare up here and there?
      2. borisjdin1957
        borisjdin1957 21 February 2014 07: 42
        +2
        from the Don.
        Your words, in God's ear!
      3. Corsair
        Corsair 21 February 2014 08: 01
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And there is no such recharge from the EU and the USA.

        GDP in time "cut the roots" of various NGOs and funds financed from abroad ...
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 21 February 2014 08: 47
          +1
          Quote: Corsair
          GDP in time "cut the roots" of various NGOs

          Do not flatter yourself. NGOs feel quite normal here. They even have grants from the "chopper". There is nothing to say about the media.
        2. Hey
          Hey 21 February 2014 09: 09
          +2
          ... and about the money of civil servants located abroad. Fuck already apply sanctions to them. Removed another pressure lever. Still deal with the property.
      4. ed65b
        ed65b 21 February 2014 08: 41
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: borisjdin1957
        After all, we can explode!

        It will not explode, our people are smarter than Bandera and no one will turn Moscow into the likeness of Kiev. Yes, and there is no such supply from the EU and the USA.

        Even if it does, we have been vaccinated for 90 years and 2 Chechen companies.
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 21 February 2014 09: 51
          +1
          You in the 90s did the same thing at home, it’s not sickly, now it’s the turn of the Ukrainians to wake up, as the politician once said, the freedom tree must be periodically watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots. Maybe Ukraine is the same time to get their vaccine, and preferably without surgical intervention from neighbors. Politicians come and go; people stay to live nearby, and if a neighbor doesn’t break into a neighbor during a quarrel between a husband, wife and children and doesn’t chop off the floor of the yard with neighbors grumbling that they are a failed family, then good neighborly relations will remain between the neighbors after the quarrel ends .
          1. ed65b
            ed65b 21 February 2014 10: 57
            0
            Sagat agrees that they woke up but no matter what the EBN was, he fucked him and crushed all the tanks along with the armed forces.
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 21 February 2014 11: 39
              0
              Squashed by someone who argues, but before that he brought the situation to shooting in the capital (doesn’t it resemble present Ukraine?). By the way, the West liked the EBN very much and no one chided it there in connection with tank firing in Moscow, does it suggest some thoughts? (for example, Yanukovych signs an association with Europe and then shoots anti-Maidans who disagree with this, from tanks, no one in the West would blame him for this)
              1. ed65b
                ed65b 21 February 2014 12: 08
                0
                Not much is wrong in Russia, the situation has developed from the crisis of the Armed Forces and the President in Ukraine because of the Association (served as a trigger). In Ukraine, there is no confrontation between the legislative and executive branches of government. The Duma in the Russian Federation was 100% legitimate. But the EBN reacted exactly the opposite to the mirror actions of the opposition of the "Barkashovites" and the military units of the Nazis. No negotiation. Tough suppression by tanks and troops. Another thing is that there is no army in Ukraine.
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    2. 31231
      31231 21 February 2014 08: 38
      +1
      After all, we can explode!

      Thanks to such violent thoughts as yours and can jerk.
      They poured mud on Yanyk, now they split Ukraine. Trying to drench Woland and ruin Russia. But both Woland and Lukashenko are winning an infowar, but Yanyk has failed.
  11. Tatarus
    Tatarus 21 February 2014 07: 15
    +3
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Brothers! Stop! Wake up! And save your country!


    Good to pity them all. It is so stupid and tolerant. Brothers can not cope? It is time for us, their brothers, the whole world to show WHAT BROTHER means FOR BROTHERS.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 February 2014 07: 20
      +6
      Quote: Tatarus
      . Brothers can not cope?

      There would be an order to handle it! And Yanukovych is not my brother.
  12. dojjdik
    dojjdik 21 February 2014 07: 29
    -1
    the article is complete nonsense - Ukraine was and will be a single state; and this show on the Maidan staged by American agents will be eliminated
    1. 31231
      31231 21 February 2014 08: 43
      0
      I doubt it. Too many Svidomo bred. Accusers including Russia.
    2. zzz
      zzz 21 February 2014 10: 01
      0
      Quote: dojjdik
      the article is complete nonsense - Ukraine was and will be a single state; and this show on the Maidan staged by American agents will be eliminated


      Or maybe you know when?
  13. Horst78
    Horst78 21 February 2014 07: 30
    +3
    Nevsky, BROTHER HOLD soldier
  14. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 21 February 2014 07: 47
    +2
    What is happening now in Ukraine, half a year ago, could not even dream in a terrible dream.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      21 February 2014 08: 01
      +3
      It could. I wrote about this a year ago. Read the article "Manifesto to Russians in Ukraine (supplemented)"
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 21 February 2014 08: 18
        +2
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        It could. I wrote about this a year ago

        Glory! You're doing fine! Hold on! And all the same, if possible, leave from where you are closer to "ours" - there and make your way. If you can get closer to Kiev - come to me. If you are far away, it doesn't matter where, we will find those who can help you in that place. Yes, even to Mikhail Zhirou, that you have a monastery and a shelter there in the memory (find the exact address on Google) He will definitely help!
    2. ed65b
      ed65b 21 February 2014 08: 43
      +5
      So the Kazakhstanis look and draw conclusions. play with your fascist Islamists. and the Turkic idea.
  15. tank64rus
    tank64rus 21 February 2014 08: 24
    +3
    We unleashed a massacre in Ukraine. This showed that such regimes are weak. Yanukovych played with the West. True, they say, don't sit down to eat porridge with the devil, he still has a bigger spoon. On my shelf is a book by Maxim Kalashnikov published in 2010 called "Independent Ukraine. The collapse of the project." Everything that is happening now in Ukraine is detailed there. I would like to ask our analysts and politicians. That again 41 years old. I can cite a number of documents according to which the United States is organizing "popular indignation": "Directive DODD 3600 of the Pentagon of December 21.12, 1992." Joint Doctrine of Information Operations of 1998. "" National Strategy for Public Diplomacy and Strategic Communications 2007. "Etc. Now it is Russia’s turn. As long as our officials will have accounts abroad and send their wives to give birth there so that the child will receive American citizenship. and will be.
    1. 31231
      31231 21 February 2014 08: 45
      +1
      Now it’s the turn of Russia. While our officials will have accounts abroad and send their wives to give birth there so that the child will receive American citizenship, it will be so.


      Have you noticed that you yourself are being led into their doctrine?
      You yourself call "Get the gang!"
  16. Karabin
    Karabin 21 February 2014 08: 33
    +5
    ]
    Southeast of Ukraine, which we lost

    In the evening, the Rada voted for a ceasefire and the withdrawal of troops from the Maidan ... People’s deputies supported the resolution as a whole, which aims to ceasefire and return all security forces to the barracks. So, 35 deputies voted for the resolution from the Party of Regions faction. Two did not vote.
    Read more here: http://ru.tsn.ua/politika/tigipko-tak-i-ne-poyavilsya-na-sudbonosnoe-zasedanie-r
    ady-spisok-poimennogo-golosovaniya-350374.html
    Probably few regionals were killed by "peaceful protesters". If the president's rag also has a rag's party, what can we talk about. Janek surrenders power. So the South-East, get ready for the Bandera government. Learn MOV, praise the "heroes", and most importantly, more arbeiten. This is what Galicia and progressive Europe expect from you. Otherwise - a war, for which you, unlike the Banderaites, will not have the spirit. And you are unlikely to get support from outside, because Russia has its own party of Regions - EdRo, its own oligarchs-Judas and its president - a great admirer of "international law".
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 21 February 2014 08: 42
      +2
      Quote: Karabin
      Probably few regionals were killed by "peaceful protesters". If the president's rag also has a rag's party, what can we talk about.

      I myself am surprised! These nerds completely lack the instinct of self-preservation ???
      From them, in my opinion, will they begin to tear the skin?
  17. Weniamin
    Weniamin 21 February 2014 08: 34
    +2
    Ah brothers Slavs, Ukrainian people, play out before the civil war, slander the blood.
  18. mabuta
    mabuta 21 February 2014 08: 41
    +1
    All these minirades are not people. Http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/070/dqoy1.jpg
  19. kenig1
    kenig1 21 February 2014 08: 51
    0
    Deputies voted for the withdrawal of troops from the Maidan
    As deputy Nikolai Knyazhitsky explained to reporters, the decree provides for the cessation of the anti-terrorist operation, the return of all security forces to their places of deployment and the release of all detained protesters.

    The decision comes into force from the moment of adoption.
    According to the leader of the Fatherland faction, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, “after the adoption of this resolution, every security official who uses weapons against protesters will be a criminal.”
  20. Cynic
    Cynic 21 February 2014 08: 58
    +2
    It's too late
    Annushka spilled oil
  21. sinukvl
    sinukvl 21 February 2014 09: 06
    +1
    Yanukovych chewed up snot! I handed over the country brown, but in principle it seems to him deeply ... well, in general, in parallel.
  22. Cynic
    Cynic 21 February 2014 09: 14
    +2
    Maybe I'm mistaken, but such an impression has not yet reached many in the East _ It’s there in Kiev.
    By the way, after the change of power, who will be cleared by the successor of Berkut _ THE LIGHTNING?
  23. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 21 February 2014 09: 15
    +1
    What a hysterical nonsense. It is such tantrums that bring the situation to what we now have. Put a minus.
  24. RBLip
    RBLip 21 February 2014 09: 29
    +2
    fantasy? What kind of fantasy is it? here is a real statement from fans from Dnepropetrovsk:
    Ultras Dnepr decided to boycott today's match of our team in the Europa League in connection with ongoing events in the country.
    As you know, only for today we have not counted about three dozen of our compatriots who died from bullets of traitors in uniform.

    We believe that on the day of mourning, and indeed at a time when in the street confrontations between our compatriots and gangs in power, people are dying there is no place for entertainment.

    If you still decide to go to the stadium - we urge everyone to be extremely careful today, not to be fooled by the provocations of strangers, not to walk alone around the city at this dangerous time.

    In the city there is a mass of provocateurs and aunts, be careful.

    Mourn the dead.

    VK - Northern Horn Speaker
  25. core
    core 21 February 2014 09: 53
    +2
    no one will allow the southeast to separate, and let the passive ones not hope to sit out, all of Ukraine will be a fascist enclave.
  26. Nevsky_ZU
    21 February 2014 10: 09
    +1
    The core, as I do not hurt, but I agree with you. Russian Southeast themselves put their heads under the ax. The 2004 could fight back. But a new generation of Russian-speaking Russophobes was brought up, plus the factor of the corrupt Yanukovych.
  27. Svetlana
    Svetlana 21 February 2014 10: 20
    +1
    Sevastopol will remain Russian!
  28. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 21 February 2014 10: 23
    +1
    Nobody will ever give up the left bank!
  29. Neophyte
    Neophyte 21 February 2014 10: 27
    +2
    I would like to believe that the southeast will wake up! The deterioration of the Ukrainian economy as a result of the actions of 4 presidents-hetmans and the current rebellion is a fact!
    Comprehension of the Russian world is also inevitable. Russia, now it is necessary
    urgently establish support for the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine, while maintaining
    the status of the state of Ukraine.
  30. ed65b
    ed65b 21 February 2014 11: 59
    0
    According to publications, the Marines "in full combat readiness" travel by train from Feodosia, notes Lenta.ru. It is allegedly planned to place them at the location of the 101st security brigade of the Ministry of Defense in Kiev.
    The process has started ??
  31. alone
    alone 21 February 2014 21: 21
    0
    The process has been going on since 1985. And the end of it, unfortunately, is not visible. Let's wait to see what happens after the agreements.