In the battle for Ukraine, you need to understand that the United States has no constructive scenario.
“The American scenario in Ukraine is to bring neo-Nazis to power, to launch repressions and to observe how we will be drawn into a bloody mess on our frontiers,” philosopher Alexander Dugin told the newspaper VIEW. But time is working for Russia - the US is losing its global influence and opportunities.
The fate of Ukraine can no longer remain just a matter of our foreign policy. The future of Russia itself depends on the answer to the Ukrainian question, which is why it is so important to decide on what we want from Little Russia. Reunion, fragmentation, mythical neutrality? About what the current phase of the Ukrainian crisis really is, about the plans of the US and Europe, about what Russia's policy should be on the Ukrainian front, the VIEW newspaper spoke with the philosopher and geopolitist Alexander Dugin, director of the Center for Conservative Research at the sociological department of Moscow State University. With this interview we open a series of publications in which Russian thinkers and politicians will answer the question "How do we get Ukraine back?"
VIEW: Events 18 February is the beginning of civil war in Ukraine?
Alexander Dugin: Yes, Ukraine has started a civil war. USA went on radicalization events. They go there to establish a nationalist, fascist dictatorship. If this option does not pass, then began to disintegrate in Ukraine, which is drawn in Russia. In the case of the first scenario from us instantly demand to withdraw the Black Sea Fleet, in the second scenario we uvyaznem in Ukrainian chaos. Both scenarios are negative for us, we imposed on them. Decoupling will soon.
VIEW: But there are still chances that now will avoid both negative scenarios, and the situation will return to a shaky confrontation, which has flared up again only during elections. If you do not speak now of smashing kolapse and Ukraine, is it possible to return Ukraine to the alliance with Russia, reunification of the two parts of one whole? How should the policy of Russia in the Ukrainian direction in the medium term?
Alexander Dugin: We must put Ukraine in a geopolitical context. There is not just a Ukrainian crisis, one should not look at Russian-Ukrainian relations and even not at relations in the Russia-Ukraine-Europe triangle. This is a much more complex model - this is a great war of the continents. At the beginning of the 90s, when the liberal idea was dominant, geopolitics and the idea of confronting the continents were ridiculed, and today no sane analyst would ever think to deny the laws of geopolitics.
What is happening in Ukraine now is the struggle of a unipolar world, embodied in American hegemony, against Russia, which embodies the steadily growing will to build a multipolar world. This is the US battle to preserve world domination. And the same people are here: Victoria Nuland (US Assistant Secretary of State), Bernard-Henri Levy (French “philosopher” and public figure who spoke on Maidan in early February), who were the instigators of the wars in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Bosnia and etc. Today, the struggle of the continents: Eurasia and the Atlantic - takes place on several fronts, including the most vital for us - the Ukrainian. Although the same problem is being solved in Syria, it was largely solved in Libya - and if we did not take a strike in Libya (due to the fact that Medvedev was in power), then we accept it in Syria and in Ukraine.
So there is a struggle that, in a sense, has nothing to do with the Ukrainians - they are pawns here. In the global geopolitical game they have a very small choice of freedom. America is struggling to ensure that its right to control the world is unlimited; Russia together with other countries insists on restricting this right. Europe is trying very quietly to get out of the American boot, but this is a very difficult process.
VIEW: How serious are these attempts at Europe? Including if you look at the Ukrainian situation. Formally, we can say that Europe puts on Klitschko, and the United States - on Yatsenyuk, but these are all tactical differences. Does Europe have the strength and determination to truly pursue its geopolitical line in world affairs, and not to be a point guard for the Anglo-Saxon elite?
AD: There are two of Europe: Atlantic and continental. One is an American stooge, conquered territory occupied zone, and the second is gradually moving towards independence. But moving gently, gently, in the framework of the Atlantic partnership, making no sudden moves, but constantly trying to strengthen its position.
There are two of these identities throughout Europe, and they are represented by two lobbies - the pro-American, liberal community dominates, including the gay community, which sets its own laws, and European leaders often follow its lead. The other is embodied primarily in conservative, military circles, in the special services. And, of course, in most people.
The opinion of the people, like democracy, was pushed aside, they are not considered. But, strictly speaking, what we saw the other day in Switzerland, where we voted in the referendum to limit migration, this is democracy, this is the voice of Europe. This is the Europe that, when given the right to vote, the right of real democracy, will immediately choose a completely different one: Swiss Switzerland, German Germany, and European Europe. Therefore, democracy in Europe today is completely incompatible with the conduct of the American line. And democracy in Europe is curtailed - as in Greece. But Europe is resisting, there is a struggle. Therefore, in Ukraine, and on other issues, Europe is trying to pursue its line.
The fact that Americans are hegemonic terrorists who keep everyone under their boots, is now evident to all Europeans. Now it is impossible to say how soon they will be able to throw off the American yoke, but sooner or later they will succeed, it is inevitable, because American domination is crumbling.
VIEW: Can differences in Ukraine accelerate the liberation of Europe from American influence?
A. D .: Not yet. It is still early - so far the situation in the US-European relations has not reached this point, five or six more steps are needed. Ukraine is not the final and not the most important stage on this road. One of - along with the bugs, the confrontation of the CIA and the German intelligence BND in Greece ... There is a huge struggle. And, of course, in Europe there is its fifth column, its own “swamp”. And if we still have it sitting and doing nasty things on the “Rain”, then in Europe it just dominates, with rush, rules. This is the same American bastard, like the same Bernard-Henri Levy. Is he a European? He is just a paid American sex artist who will bring both the politics, the philosophy, and the fashion to the ordered topic. Guest worker who works for the American father.
Just as the US-Soros network, which is spread out here, represents the order that dominates the world, it works for the “prince of this world.” The danger of our fifth column is not that they are strong, they are absolutely insignificant, but that they are hired by the greatest “godfather” of the modern world - the United States. Therefore, they are effective, they work, they are listened to, everything gets away with them - because the world power is behind them. Fighting for Ukraine, Putin clearly defined what he had confirmed before: he is on the opposite side of the barricades. In the struggle of a unipolar world against a multipolar, he opposes American hegemony.
Therefore, today, before any commentator or analyst opens his mouth to talk about Ukraine, it is already quite clear which side he is on. So people cheer for one or the other team - here friendship cannot win, here it is necessary to score a goal. Atlantists will turn everything in their own way, as they always do, even the wording will be fundamentally different: if a homosexual praises Putin, he is a dirty n ... and if he is cursed, then a respected representative of the gay community. If someone says that it is necessary to restrict the migration of Africans to Europe, then the liberals will declare him a neo-Nazi, and if the French comedian Dieudonne laughs at some aspects of Zionism, then they also call him an unwashed black. These are double standards.
But they do not need to be criticized - there are American standards, but ours; and those and other doubles. Because we see the truth from our point of view, and they - from theirs. They too should be understood when they lie on the same Echo of Moscow. Everyone who opposes Yanukovych in Russia is an employee of the American network, he has his own logic. It is only necessary to register him as an agent of influence and after that calmly talk to him. They have the right to work for the United States, after all, espionage can never be ruled out. And someone just hates our country and the multipolar world so much that it does it sincerely.
So, the analysis of the Ukrainian situation cannot be neutral, because there are only two sides - not three, not ten, but exactly two: ours and ours. Atlantic position and Eurasian position. There are barricades between them and us.
VIEW: Russia And in this war of civilizations is trying to return to Ukraine, knowing that it would not be complete without ...
A.D .: We want to strengthen our Eurasian pole, reuniting with our close in all respects - historically, religiously, culturally, ethnically, linguistically - part of our common Slavic, Orthodox Eurasian world. We want this not in a vacuum, not in a vacuum - we want it in the course of the struggle against us. Because even just wanting this reunion, speaking of this, we are going against the United States and their plans.
See how the eyes of Venediktov or Latynina change immediately when they hear about reunion. In response, we hear a roar - not them, they, in general, do not care, this is a huge millstone of the great war of the continents, in which they are just pawns. How, by the way, and we are - just we are children of the Russian people, and they are anti-Russian. We stand on the side of one civilization, they are on the other. But if those who sit in Washington are fighting for their civilization, and this is their right, then what are their attendants fighting for us, this fifth column? And why does she propagate hatred towards us in our midst with such impunity?
In the analysis of the Ukrainian situation is a watershed ideas about the past, present and future. This is the line where it starts to present policy, which defines friends and enemies.
VIEW: The current Ukrainian crisis is a logical consequence of all of its post-Soviet stories...
A. D .: Ukraine is now in a very difficult situation. She was in a difficult situation during the Orange Revolution 2004 of the year, and in the 90s during Kuchma. And even in the USSR, especially in the postwar years, she experienced some features of her geopolitical position. Ukraine as a nation-state has not historically existed — there is no Ukrainian ethnic group, no Ukrainian nation, or Ukrainian civilization. There are Western Russian lands.
And the West Russian lands proper begin on the right bank, on the right bank of the Dnieper - and they are very different in their historical fate. Part of them were in Poland, partly under Austria, partly with us, sometimes changing their submission. As for the left-bank Ukraine, this territory has nothing to do with the Western Russian lands. These are Cossack lands, and there is no difference between them and Don, the same people who speak the same language live there, and they have nothing in common with Western Russian culture.
From western culture has always felt independent and from the Poles and Austrians from, and from the Muscovites. Conservation ideas from western archetype of its identity with the unadventurous inclinations for autonomy have always existed. But, you see, between such timid attempts and independent state is a significant difference. There are more states held that resigned to the fact that you were within our system.
And do not overestimate the desire of Western Ukrainians for freedom and independence, it was moderate. They have every right to do this, but there is a great distance from this right to the defense of national statehood. Moreover, the statehood fell on them quite by accident, during the clouding of the older brother's consciousness, was completely historically unfounded. At that moment we were simply paralyzed by our fifth column, did not understand what we were doing. Well, as the man went and drunk, he lost his wife, children, and the house — approximately that was what Gorbachev and Yeltsin did. And now the drunken years of betrayal and debauchery have passed, Russia has become sober and thinks about what to do with the family, children and brothers, houses and lands that have been drunk in the tavern.
Ukrainians got too much. But for us the territory of modern Ukraine is too big - we do not assimilate the zapadensky enclave. We have always suppressed Bandera-behaved tough, took and destroyed them after the war. True, the Bolsheviks had previously treated the Great Russians in the same way - they uprooted the Russian identity. In 20, this was the brutality of the then victorious group from Ekho Moskvy - one can imagine that they will glue to their enemies now if they establish a totalitarian dictatorship.
In today's conditions, when the Americans are playing on the side of the Westerners, Ukraine cannot be pro-Russian within the current borders. Under no circumstances - even if the most pro-Russian president is (although it is impossible now, a significant part of the population will reject him), he will be doomed to behave in the same way as Kuchma or Yanukovych. This is the maximum of what we can get. Russia should think about this: if we want more than Kuchma or Yanukovych, then we behave irresponsibly.
VIEW: But Yanukovych tried to sit on two chairs ...
AD: after receiving Russophobic frankly, pitted scab Yushchenko such inconsistent, cautious, oscillating partner as Yanukovych, had to run on a different scenario.
Now we support Yanukovych, but we have no strategy. We have not yet formed a pro-Russian, Eurasian network. Therefore, we cheer for Yanukovych, and he does something - what he can. But he cannot do more and does not want to, because he is what he is, and if he had not been so, he would never have been the president of Ukraine. But Moscow has never been strategically engaged in Ukraine, and only now Putin has begun to really fight for it.
VIEW: After we managed to dissuade Yanukovych from associating with the European Union, do we have a further strategy regarding Ukraine? What should we do - try to tie it, dragging it into the Customs Union, rely on splitting, tighten the situation of constant confrontation between pro-European and pro-Russian forces?
A. D .: Putin already has a long experience with Ukraine. During his first two terms in Ukraine, dramatic events had already taken place, and in that situation he behaved flawlessly. But with all the indisputable merits of Putin, he has a big disadvantage: he believes that the idea has no value, he does not believe in the idea, considers it an edging for some technical, sometimes even covert operations. If you think that an idea is just a form of chatter, you will inevitably make many mistakes.
VIEW: But in the last year or two, he, on the contrary, a lot of time talking about the importance of ideas about the meaning and value, even an ideological confrontation and struggle ...
AD: Yes, it's a very good sign of its evolution. He learns, he grows as president. But if we return to Ukraine as you did before 2012 year, then we do nothing. Putin has to radically change policy in this direction. The idea. Ukraine as an idea.
VIEW: Ukraine - as the main idea for Russia, we must put reunification at the center of our agenda.
AD: Yes, and it means that we ourselves understand our status as one of the poles of the multipolar world. Begin to act systemically. And adjusts staffing policy under two principles: ideology and effectiveness.
Russia must be ruled by an idealistic patriotic elite who will see Russia as an idea. The second is efficiency. If a person was given a task and he failed, they put a minus, he did it - plus. But most people in the government do not cope with us, but for some reason they get new appointments. It is time to end with this vicious practice, with this loyalty to every kind of garbage - this is not European, and not Russian.
If Putin put the task to solve the problem of Ukraine before the effective managers, which will take as their failure and thank for their success, one that will change everything. Already after a couple of rotations any scum that will attempt to capitalize on this and to fish in troubled waters will not, because it is a very big responsibility. And will people who are ready, willing and able to do it.
VIEW: What should be done in the coming years?
A. D .: We must calculate the time. In the global world, there is a fall in American hegemony - and the longer we hold out in any position, the more likely we are to resolve everything peacefully and calmly. Time works for us.
What happens to Nuland when she is the mother of the EU is a sign of hysteria. The US is hysterical - they are about to lose control of the global economy, a new wave of crisis is about to come. In fact, America lives on the eve of its end - like any other empire, it is trying to extend the time of its existence. The behavior of Nuland is like the Riga riot police of the USSR sunset period, the last agony. Hence leaks, confusion, non-fulfillment of their own promises. America is falling, America will collapse soon. Soon - this concept is very complex, it can last 20 for years, maybe two years. But the fact that this is about the end of American global hegemony is understood by the Americans themselves. And so they live by the principle of "die today you, and I tomorrow." America is playing this game, and it is ready to plunge any country in the world, which prevents it, into a bloody civil war.
VIEW: Including Europe ...
AD: Of course. This is why we need a strategy and was there on delivery of migrants and multiculturalism, to maximize ease European society, to deprive him of homogeneity.
America will export civil war and death, as it does in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. Now it begins in Bosnia, then it will come to other Balkan countries, the conflict of Hungary and Romania is possible. The war of all against all. And the civil war in Ukraine is a way for the United States to postpone its own collapse.
LOOK: The option of splitting the country and the civil war in Ukraine is a spare for the US - in case they finally make sure that European integration does not work out - or the main one?
A. D: Although the USA is still the strongest of all, their influence is falling. They took the path of sliding down, not the death of the United States, but of American hegemony. In parallel with this, Europe will increasingly assert itself as an independent player, playing partly with America, partly with Russia. Today, they are playing 95% with the USA, with 5% - with Russia. This ratio will gradually change - at the same rate that the United States are falling. Europe will come to a normal state: 50% from the USA, 50% from Russia.
If Europe moves in this direction, and we hold on to the face of falling America, then Western influence in Ukraine will steadily fall with each passing year. He has nowhere to grow, Europe will not play along with America, it already tries to get less involved in the Ukrainian situation - only American mongrels among Europeans do it. Europe is moving away from Ukrainian history.
There was never a question about Ukraine joining the EU - and this will never happen. It was about the stage, about the agreement of intent, and at the moment when the EU members themselves, like Greece and Hungary, raise the question of withdrawal from it. The initiative to drag Kiev into the EU was not European, but the signatures were torn off in order to sow the grain of civil conflict in Ukraine.
So if Russia keeps on, even clumsily and without ideas, if Putin keeps the line that is now and does not take a step back, then the longer he holds, the more chances that the situation in Ukraine will unfold itself in our the side. This is objective. I would like us to act more subjectively, more efficiently, but, even acting with weak efficiency, we still do at least something - and against the background of the fall of the United States, this gives us chances. But, of course, if the US felt good, if processes in Europe were not catastrophic, this would not be enough. But now our opponents have everything falling out of their hands - and we just need to hold on. Then we have a chance to save Ukraine and save ourselves.
VIEW: What do we need to bet on Ukraine?
A. D .: In Ukraine, Americans do not want democracy. How so? After all they, it seems, all the time insist on democracy? Now Ukraine is perhaps the most democratic country in the world - hardly anywhere else there is so much democracy. It is achieved by two poles: the west and east of Ukraine. If someone tries to impose his sole will, the other side has all the tools to stop it and give it a hand. Yushchenko worked in the “orange” vein for four years and was thrown out in disgrace. Yanukovych is also not free - as soon as he says that Moscow is behind him, instantly he receives such a blow on his legitimacy from the Ukrainian society that he is forced to dismiss Azarov and talk about Yatsenyuk’s premiership.
Ukraine has exhausted the possibilities of democratization. Democracy in Ukraine today is working not only against us, but also against the West. Because any democratic will of the people will lead again today to the victory of Yanukovych. And attempts to fight for a recount again lead to confrontation. Democracy is not an option for anyone - neither for us nor for the West, because no one can use it to move anything in Ukraine.
Now the main problem in Ukraine allegedly comes down to the fact that the man of the United States is Yatsenyuk, and Europe is Klitschko, but the Americans do not know what to do with Tyagnibok and the Right Sector. This is not true - they know perfectly well what to do with them. Because the main intrigue of the Ukrainian situation is that Americans can no longer use democracy in their geopolitical interests. Democracy is becoming the enemy of the United States. Democracy does not suit them in Europe either, because if you look at the democratic decisions of the French, they will be directed against the laws on homosexual marriage, and Scotland will leave the UK.
So I think that the Americans have a completely different plan for Ukraine. Economically, they do not need it, Europe is not going to take it either. The answer is only one: Americans want to establish a nationalist, Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine. Therefore, the main figure is the Yagsenyuk, and Yatsenyuk is just a cover. Nationalism is the only way to mobilize Western Ukraine for a harsh policy. Suspend democracy, and under the auspices of Ukrainian anti-Russian neo-Nazism, they can establish power control over the east and the Crimea. In the spirit of Saakashvili - they have worked it in Georgia and in Ukraine can already act, given the failures in South Ossetia in 2008 year.
VIEW: It's bloody scenario ...
A. D .: Not yet. The coming of neo-Nazis to power in Kiev will create the prerequisites for a tough nationalist regime. Which will immediately require the expulsion of the Black Sea fleet from Sevastopol and the abolition of all decisions of the eastern regions, directed against the new government, will begin tough repressive measures. At this moment, the Americans will pull themselves up, who will tell Russia about the same thing that we told them when we entered Afghanistan in 1979: we were invited. Then they told us that our invitation was fake, that we were invited by local communists, and now we will tell them that they have a fake invitation and they were called by neo-Nazis. But this is a matter of strength - if the Americans enter Ukraine, they will be able to deliver us an ultimatum on the withdrawal of the Black Sea Fleet, threatening a nuclear war.
That's what they are counting on in Ukraine, because they already have everything else there, nothing else in a democratic way will go there. Democratic ballots will restore the same picture; moreover, the self-consciousness of the east, which is lagging behind the self-consciousness of the west of Ukraine, will gradually grow, and the ideology of the east of Ukraine and separatist plans will be formed. This will inevitably occur as a reaction to what is happening in the country now - just the Ukrainians need time to get to that.
So the Americans simply decided to transfer power to the neo-Nazi leadership, only this will allow them to solve their problems, albeit temporarily, albeit at a terrible price. But they are pragmatists, they think two or three steps forward. They capture Afghanistan without thinking about what will happen in 10 years.
LOOK: Unlikely to Europe, not to mention Russia, will quietly observe the American game in Ukraine.
AD: Europe astonished, although pro-American forces of Levy will applaud Tyagniboka, saying that it is not the same Tyahnibok. They already have precedents when the far-right, coming to Parliament, become quite manageable figures as Gianfranco Fini, who came to Israel and asked for forgiveness, became deputy prime minister. And it is in Italy, where there was a very strong anti-fascist movement. They have the experience of buying and taming nationalists who are beginning to be useful idiots of the West.
The burden is chosen for this role. Therefore, the West does not need the opposition to come to an agreement with the authorities - they do not need anything either from Yanukovych or Yatsenyuk and Klitschko, who generally act as a cover. In reality, the United States can only launch a scenario of radical Ukrainian nationalism. The blitz operation on the conduct of non-democratic, dictatorial laws, which they will gradually soften or cancel, but the matter will be done: the fleet will go out, a single national state will be established.
After some time after that a civil war will begin. It will start in very unpleasant starting conditions for us. The Crimea is being mobilized, in which the Tatar groups are already arming, and they will cut out the Russians together with the Ukrainian nationalists. Western Ukrainian neo-Nazi brigades will begin serious cleansing in Eastern Ukraine - there the population is quite relaxed, until it realizes what is happening, a critical moment can already pass. That is, the Americans will support the neo-Nazis, and then they will say that they have nothing to do with it, the Ukrainians themselves do everything.
Russia at best be able to close the valve, we lose time, lose process, and then, already had drawn into the bloody fight, lose very much in the eyes of Europe. America immediately tell Europeans that Russian again took up his imperialism, they are not limited to Eastern Ukraine, and they encroach on Poland, Romania and seize ...
Europe will again be strictly subordinated to the States, and thus the United States for a certain period postpone their end.
It is their script. Bring to power the neo-Nazi repression deploy and watch as we get involved in a bloody mess on our borders.
What should we do? Understand what is at stake. First of all, understand that their tasks in relation to Ukraine are not constructive, but destructive. We are accustomed to thinking that the opponents have some kind of constructive scenario - in this case it is not so, their whole scenario boils down to extending their agony by two or three steps, but it leads nowhere to neither Ukraine nor Europe, not us. We can not imagine how bad things are for America, that they think in the categories “die you today, and I am tomorrow”.
VIEW: Well, their behavior in the Greater Middle East in recent years confirms it: they did not counted the consequences of what they did in Iraq and Afghanistan ...
A. D.: They do not know what to do with both Afghanistan and Iraq. Shiite Iraq will grab Iran, and then the United States will use Wahhabis, Al Qaeda and the Kurds against them. And this bloody chaos forever. In the same chaos want to plunge and Ukraine. We need to understand this. No need to hurry. The longer we pull the rubber to Ukraine, the better it will be for us. There are situations - for example, Karabakh or Transdniestria - when any solution will be worse than its absence.
At the same time we can play a proactive: realizing that Americans dragged Tyagniboka little shake theme fascist threat in Ukraine (and little by little we are already doing), and contribute to the organization of preventive east and Crimea to become independent card. And when zapadentsy say that if something goes wrong, then we take the administration in Lviv, the East must meet that takes administration in Kharkov and Odessa.
We need to strengthen Yanukovych. This Ukrainian horror still will last, it can not be resolved, it has no solutions, so let him until that lasts.
We now do not take the whole of Ukraine - if we threaten all, we will lose everything. It is also unprofitable for us to prolong the crisis indefinitely, but we need time to prepare.
VIEW: divorce initiative should come from the western regions, that is weak and leaves the loser.
A. D.: We should not initiate the division of Ukraine - we must prepare, create a situation where the two parts of Ukraine will be mobilized sufficiently equilibrium. The West is already well mobilized, but the East is not. We need the mobilization of the east of Ukraine. If the east is ready for separation, it will be a chance that this separation will never take place. And if the east is not ready, then the west will try to swallow it.
In a democratic way, this no longer took place — under Yushchenko, zapadentsa ruled and could do nothing with the east. Assimilate it from them failed. So, democracy is no longer working in the interests of zapadentsev, it works on two sides. Therefore, the Maidan scenario with a pro-American nationalist dictatorship comes.
We must help mobilize the east and the Crimea on an ideological and structural basis. Invest there, first of all, the idea, and secondly, information strategies, already in the third place - everything else. It is necessary to draw up a project "Eastern Ukraine" in which to invest. Not to carry out the division of Ukraine, but to prevent it. Because if there is not a powerful independent east, then this section will still go, but not in our scenario and against us.
In addition, we need to work in the enclaves in the west of Ukraine. There are quite serious forces with which we can work. Orthodox in Volyn, Transcarpathian Rusyns - a lot of people who will be for us. We will not return the West, will not capture it, but if they start the collapse of Ukraine, we can create a lot of trouble for them, they will not have quiet Lviv streets. What they are going to arrange in the east of Ukraine should take place at their home. They will not take the east, but they will arrange shooting there, terror, repression. And we must be ready to respond to terror in the east of the guerrilla war in the west. We must have arguments - and this is not only gas.
Today there is a situation when, opposing the pro-Western forces in our former republics, their opponents take the path of least resistance. The West comes up with a nationalist model, with such a liberal neo-Nazism, while its opponents fall into the opposite extreme and begin to defend Sovietism. This happens, for example, in Moldova. On the one hand, it is rigidly anti-Romanian, pro-Soviet Moldavinism of the communists, and on the other, pro-Romanian liberal nationalism. Similarly, in Ukraine, there is liberal nationalism for the West, and against them are people with portraits of Stalin, talks about a great era and social achievements. The liberal nationalists alliance is quite effective: the neo-Nazis give real energy, and the liberals cover them. The liberals themselves have no energy - these are minorities, in every sense of the word, from sexual to national, but by entering into an alliance with the nationalists, the “little people” of liberals gain strength.
What do we say in response? The ideology of the late Soviet cartoons - Kota Leopold and Cheburashka: "Let's live together." We have to resort to the exploitation of good, stable, but empty Soviet nostalgia. But this is not a tool, this is not a policy - we will not defend either Odessa or the Donbass with this ideology. And even more so Kiev. We need a new ideology for Ukraine and for Russia, and not the slogans that we had a great era, we launched Gagarin into space. There must be a national, mobilization ideology of Eurasianism. Need to refer to the meanings.