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Kyrgyzstan in Russia: to catch up and overtake the Tajiks

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Kyrgyzstan in Russia: to catch up and overtake the Tajiks



Protest demonstrations and rallies at foreign embassies are not a rare form of attracting the attention of the public and authorities. As a rule, these actions pursue political goals. But there are some rather curious nonsense. For example, imagine that in Mexico City, at the gates of the American diplomatic mission, an outraged crowd of Mexicans is dissatisfied with the American immigration legislation and demands that insidious Yankees not persecute Mexican migrants and not restrict their rights. In turn, on the other side of the border, the Mexican diaspora is also not silent and sends petitions to the Mexican government, expressing dissatisfaction with the passivity of the Mexican authorities, their lack of proper reaction to the mass checks of the deportation of Mexicans.

Of course, these scenes from the “soap opera” about the Mexican migration to the north were not even mentioned. Despite the fact that Mexicans, Americans and Canadians have formed their common North American market, Americans are not in no hurry to open their labor market in front of Mexico, but vice versa, they do not want the means to strengthen the southern border and suppress the illegal border from the south. That is, there is a normal practice of economic cooperation, based on a certain consensus on issues of mutual benefit and the protection of one’s national interests. Therefore, Mexican migrants who settled in America will not even come to mind, thinking to turn to Mexico City demanding that their homeland “put pressure” on Washington and demanding loosening up for migrants, and compatriots at home with the same requests picketed the American embassy.

But in a relationship where dubious political interests prevail, burdened by nostalgia for the “good old days”, where interstate and trade and economic relations are built on the principle of “beggar-benefactor”, Mexican inventions take on very real outlines. In the post-Soviet space, you can find a lot of examples. This vicious, corrupting practice is best seen in Russia's relations with the poorest Central Asian republics - with Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.

Just at the Russian embassy in Bishkek, there was a rally in defense of migrants, organized by marginal politicians who earned prestige on the plight of the population. In Russia itself, the Kyrgyz diaspora cast its disgruntled voice. And they had reason to stir and worry. Although Russia has not yet decided to restore order and build migration policy in the interests of its own population, and not of the CIS countries, under the pressure of protest and xenophobic sentiments, the Russian government is forced to make decisions that mimic a systematic approach to migration problems.

But even these cosmetic measures were enough to sow a small panic among Kyrgyz migrant workers. No joke, in Moscow alone there are about 400 thousands of Kyrgyz migrants who are illegal. Over the second half of 2013, more than 2 thousands of Kyrgyz were deported from Russia. According to the Ministry of Labor, Migration and Youth of Kyrgyzstan, the number of Kyrgyz who are on the Russian “black list” has reached 43 thousand people, while the number of migrants who can still reach there reaches 270 thousand people.

However, no matter how many Kyrgyz people are expelled from Russia, the migration flow is not that it does not weaken, but continues to grow. Kyrgyzstan is confidently following the Tajik route, where the policy of squeezing out “excess” labor and forcing the population to migrate out of the country has been elevated to the rank of state.

According to various estimates, over a million citizens of the country have now left for Kyrgyzstan to earn money. At least about 700 thousands of them "walk" in the Russian open spaces, the rest are attached in neighboring Kazakhstan. According to the head of the Federal Migration Service of the Russian Federation Konstantin Romodanovsky, Kyrgyzstan has become one of the three leaders in migration to Russia.

The remittances of migrants to their homeland exceeded $ 2,1 billion. According to Temir Sariev, Minister of Economy of Kyrgyzstan, the real amount of financial income from compatriots is much higher. According to experts, in addition to bank transfers, about $ 700-800 million also enter the republic in various other ways. In the republic's GDP, migrant remittances have already exceeded 33 percent. Well, than after that Kyrgyzstan is not Tajikistan-2 in Central Asia.
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  1. Oleg56.ru
    Oleg56.ru 21 February 2014 09: 05
    +35
    Separated from the USSR, live your labor on their lands. No one forcibly drove you from the USSR. You are a separate state. And only Russia will decide whether you will work in Russia and how many people or not. Tired already, the USSR-tyrant, Russia-does not work normally. Be part of Russia and work as much as you like. You do not want? Sit at home and don’t ....
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 21 February 2014 09: 12
      +1
      Quote: Oleg56.ru
      Separated from the USSR, live your labor on their lands. No one forcibly drove you from the USSR. You are a separate state. And only Russia will decide whether you will work in Russia and how many people or not. Tired already, the USSR-tyrant, Russia-does not work normally. Be part of Russia and work as much as you like. You do not want? Sit at home and don’t pi ... those!


      Excuse me, on what kind of land is it? Is this not the very ones that were bought by the Russians for money or those that are stipulated by the Sino-Russian agreements, to which the "greatest people" has nothing to do with?
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 21 February 2014 09: 16
        +5
        Quote: Humpty
        Excuse me, on what kind of land is it? This is not the very ones that were bought by the Russians for money or those that are stipulated by the Sino-Russian agreements, to which the "greatest people" has not the slightest relation?

        Eeee what translate
        1. Humpty
          Humpty 21 February 2014 09: 28
          +7
          The lands of the valleys were bought for money from the leaders of the Kyrgyz tribes by the Russian authorities in the 19th and early 20th centuries. They sold them with great desire. The eastern and southeastern part of the sovr. the territory of Kyrgyzstan was actually not for anyone. Take who can, but China had no idea about them, and ours actively explored. The Soviet authorities and the Chinese agreed on them in favor of the USSR.
          1. ultra
            ultra 21 February 2014 10: 29
            +2
            Quote: Humpty
            The lands of the valleys were bought for money from the leaders of the Kyrgyz tribes by the Russian authorities in the 19th

            And what side does this apply to present-day Russia?
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 21 February 2014 10: 36
              +8
              Quote: ultra
              And what side does this apply to present-day Russia?

              This applies with the upper right side to the legitimacy of the phrase.
              Quote: Oleg56.ru
              live your work on своих lands

              Is it really hard to understand?
              1. jjj
                jjj 21 February 2014 10: 40
                +2
                Quote: Flood
                right upper side

                It will be necessary to remember this expression in a pair to "look up to the left"
              2. ultra
                ultra 21 February 2014 11: 12
                0
                Quote: Flood
                This applies with the upper right side to the legitimacy of the phrase.

                Fuu! I reassured, but I thought that the lower left side! laughing
          2. Ustian
            Ustian 21 February 2014 11: 12
            0
            Quote: Humpty
            The lands of the valleys were bought for money from the leaders of the Kyrgyz tribes by the Russian authorities in 19, and the beginning of the 20 century

            Well, firstly, even if so, they were bought, not selected!
            Quote: Humpty
            They sold them with great pleasure.

            You see for yourself!
            Quote: Humpty
            the territory of Kyrgyzstan was actually not for anyone. Take who can

            They took it and went wild. Really strange behavior!
            1. Humpty
              Humpty 21 February 2014 12: 09
              -2
              Quote: Ustian

              They took it and went wild. Really strange behavior!


              Why should I say this? The facts I have stated are devoid of personal speculation.
          3. Ptah
            Ptah 21 February 2014 12: 23
            +1
            Quote: Humpty
            The lands of the valleys were bought for money from the leaders of the Kyrgyz tribes by the Russian authorities in 19, and the beginning of the 20 century

            According to various estimates, more than a million citizens of the country have now left outside Kyrgyzstan for work.
            Money transfers of migrants to their homeland exceeded $ 2,1 billion per year.

            Well so PURCHASED (if these words are to be believed), and not "democratically squeezed" and not annexed.
            The Americans bought Alaska, the Russians bought a bit of Kyrgyzstan. What is the problem?
            Then either remove the borders of the tries, call ourselves a "Kyrgyz province" and graciously accept the Russian Governor-General with bread and salt (pilaf-hashish).
            Or return denyushki back ..., we will buy Tochikiston to them.
            But in fact, no offense, neither they, nor you, nor anyone else would be needed. Territories in bulk, you come to work, only taxes are collected in Russia and goods are purchased at the places of earnings and work at least around the clock. Who forbids you.
            Yes, I almost forgot ....
            Stop swelling. Go better swing the rights to your buy, you can stir up your "maydaun"
            1. Humpty
              Humpty 21 February 2014 13: 37
              -1
              General Governor? Fun . There was one here, and this was not Kaufman and not Samsonov (the same one). When representatives of the so-called. he met local elites with various deeds, exceptionally cordially, always hospitablely, but in the costume of Adam.
              1. Ptah
                Ptah 21 February 2014 14: 40
                +1
                Quote: Humpty
                he met exceptionally cordially, always hospitablely, but in the costume of Adam

                Everyone was waiting for Eve ... love Apparently, to commit original sin ... what laughing
                "representatives of local elites" in this regard did not interest him at all.
                Send next time to "kaufmans", "drawers", "pulmans", "springers", "pants", etc. - Gulchataek ...
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 21 February 2014 15: 09
                  +5
                  Vadim. and you laugh in vain. Kaufman was an excellent governor of the Turkestan region and has done a lot for Russia. Also, the famous Skobelev began his career here (by the way, Ferghana is a purely Russian city and was called Skobelev), Monerheim began his geographical and reconnaissance career here. The governor general of Kurapatkin was marked by suppression by suppression of the associated anti-Russian uprising.
            2. Serg65
              Serg65 21 February 2014 13: 52
              +9
              And how not to excite that? You have occupied my homeland, you do not like Russians, you will not see former compatriots, you hate fellow believers, openly propagandize the idea ".. my house is on the edge ..", the greatness of Russia is like a bone in your throat, ready for money for any dirt. I cannot understand how Peter, who survived 900 days of the blockade, became the homeland of Russian fascists? How can I not get excited if you, not knowing Russian history, impose your pseudo historical views? How can I not get excited if a young man who has not done absolutely nothing for his homeland, is trying to draw some conclusions and advise the authorities to do this and that! How can I not get excited if my family in 4 generations with sweat and blood promoted the Russian spirit and Russian statehood in this region!
              1. Ptah
                Ptah 21 February 2014 14: 30
                +1
                Quote: Serg65
                You have occupied my homeland, you do not like Russians, you will not see former compatriots, you hate fellow believers, you openly propagandize the idea ".. my house is on the edge ..", the greatness of Russia is like a bone in your throat, ready for money for any dirt. I cannot understand how Peter, who survived 900 days of the blockade, became the homeland of Russian fascists? How can I not get excited if you, not knowing Russian history, impose your pseudo historical views? How can I not get excited, if a young man who has not done absolutely nothing for his homeland, is trying to make some conclusions and advise the authorities to do this and that!

                Seryozha, are you talking about this and to whom? It seems like an appeal to me ....
                Back to the article.
                Just at the Russian embassy in Bishkek, there was a rally in defense of migrants, organized by marginal politicians who earned credibility in the plight of the population. In Russia itself, the Kyrgyz diaspora cast its displeased voice.
                ...
                However, no matter how many Kyrgyz people are expelled from Russia, the migration flow is not that it does not weaken, but continues to grow. Kyrgyzstan is confidently following the Tajik route, where the policy of squeezing out “excess” labor and forcing the population to migrate out of the country has been elevated to the rank of state.

                Here is my appeal to them. The fact that Sergey and Alexander came to the defense of the Kirghiz - adds only honor to them. After all, you are not netuti in Russia and netuti at the embassy.
                Quote: Serg65
                my family in the 4 generations later and with blood promoted the Russian spirit and Russian statehood in this region!

                Thanks and respect for this / without sarcasm /.
                It seems that your righteous labors are down the drain. Sorry. Your opinion does not solve anything neither in domestic policy, nor in foreign.
                I repeat - slaughter the current buys, put the pro-Russian government.
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 21 February 2014 14: 48
                  +10
                  Vadim, I repeat once again, now in Kyrgyzstan there stands the pro-Russian government, who did not like it or was sitting, or for a long time over the hill. Works-cat did not fall under the tail, here the Russian spirit, here it smells Russian! This is not Uzbekistan and Tajikistan! Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan have been pro-Russian entities for over 100 years. I don’t know how Alexander is, but I protect the land that was called Russia before! For many centuries, Russia has been multinational — it has held on and flourished.
                  1. Ptah
                    Ptah 21 February 2014 14: 58
                    +2
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Works-cat did not fall under the tail, here the Russian spirit, here it smells Russian! This is not Uzbekistan and Tajikistan! Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan have been pro-Russian entities for over 100 years. I don’t know how Alexander is, but I protect the land that was called Russia before!
                    good
                    The "Tea" Fleet from the "Frozen" Fleet - hi drinks soldier
                    1. Serg65
                      Serg65 21 February 2014 15: 11
                      +6
                      drinks The sailor seaman always finds out lol good soldier
      2. aktanir
        aktanir 21 February 2014 09: 53
        +4
        Why the hell is this rogue republic as part of Russia generally needed? We cannot arrange and feed our own ... In this respect, the experience of Israel, which is surrounded by hostile countries, is very useful, but the Jews do not feel worse about it. A reliable border should be fenced off from Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Armenia, etc., their inhabitants. It’s enough for Russia, under the guise of humanitarian assistance, to provide material assistance to the former fraternal republics, to subsidize some money, as the USA, for example, does, but do not let anyone in for a kilometer. We pay for our military bases with weapons.
        1. Gunsmith
          Gunsmith 21 February 2014 10: 46
          +5
          And imperial ambitions? And the thorns aren’t enough. In addition, we will leave this morning - the Chinese will have lunch in Central Asia, and by dinner the Americans will catch on to the smell of fried and, under the noise, the Taliban will ride the border. So have some fun. The Party is about 20 years old. Remember what difficulties Russia had to survive for the Amers from this region - in fact, we twice changed presidents in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. And this is all money, a lot of money. They must be recaptured for a start. I’m not talking about politics.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 21 February 2014 11: 02
            +13
            For your information, Russia in Kyrgyzstan has replaced only one president, after which the Kyrgyz policy turned to face Russia. The withdrawal of the American airbase, the expansion and strengthening of the Russian airbase in Kant, the beginning of the construction of a military base in Osh, the purchase of a local gas company by Gazprom for $ 1, the construction of Rosenergo power station on Naryn, the purchase of the former defense plants "Ainur", "Fizpribory".
            1. aktanir
              aktanir 21 February 2014 11: 23
              +2
              that’s what I’m talking about, even better, everyone sits at home, being good neighbors who don’t wish each other bad things. It is enough that economic relations between them are developing actively. This is happening for mutual benefit. So let the Kyrgyz people be in the homeland of their ancestors - in Kyrgyzstan, and the Russians - at home.
            2. Gunsmith
              Gunsmith 21 February 2014 14: 24
              0
              Not a fact, not a fact ... For some reason, no matter where you come by rail, everywhere at the end of the path there is a buffet, restaurant or station in general ...
        2. stariy
          stariy 21 February 2014 20: 43
          +1
          Quote: aktanir
          Why the hell is this rogue republic as part of Russia generally needed?

          Yes indeed !! In your opinion, Russia ends beyond the MKAD, why the hell is everything wassat
      3. varov14
        varov14 21 February 2014 12: 25
        +1
        "Excuse me, what kind of land is it on? Is it not the very ones that were bought by the Russians for money or those that are stipulated by the Sino-Russian agreements, to which the" greatest nation "has nothing to do?" --- That's not necessary, they lived there. It's another matter that "This vicious, corrupting practice of migration is best seen in Russia's relations with the poorest Central Asian republics - with Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan." --- They will play, there will be Ukraine, now the practice of methods of a coup d'etat is being practiced there.
      4. sss5.papu
        sss5.papu 22 February 2014 19: 10
        0
        Quote: Humpty
        Quote: Oleg56.ru
        Separated from the USSR, live your labor on their lands. No one forcibly drove you from the USSR. You are a separate state. And only Russia will decide whether you will work in Russia and how many people or not. Tired already, the USSR-tyrant, Russia-does not work normally. Be part of Russia and work as much as you like. You do not want? Sit at home and don’t pi ... those!


        Excuse me, on what kind of land is it? Is this not the very ones that were bought by the Russians for money or those that are stipulated by the Sino-Russian agreements, to which the "greatest people" has nothing to do with?

        Rave! What land purchased? What is the agreement with China? Well, at least sometimes read! There was no Kyrgyzstan, but there was the Kokand Khanate, CONQUERED by Russia in 1853-1876 and liquidated after the uprising of 1879. And where does "the leaders of the Kyrgyz tribes" have to do with it? What do you think these were wild places, and cities that are 2 thousand years old?
    2. Evil rabbit
      Evil rabbit 21 February 2014 12: 20
      +6
      For your information, they were just kicked out of the USSR. According to the results of the 1991 referendum in Kyrgyzstan, over 96% of the population voted to preserve the Union. For comparison, in Russia, more than a quarter of the population was against the preservation of the USSR. And secondly, the majority of the population there and now are ready to join Russia, not even as autonomy, local princes really got them. Therefore, they vote with their feet ...
      1. Gunsmith
        Gunsmith 21 February 2014 14: 44
        +2
        I would only be glad for the return of the USSR
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    4. sss5.papu
      sss5.papu 21 February 2014 19: 46
      -1
      Quote: Oleg56.ru
      Separated from the USSR, live your labor on their lands. No one forcibly drove you from the USSR. You are a separate state. And only Russia will decide whether you will work in Russia and how many people or not. Tired already, the USSR-tyrant, Russia-does not work normally. Be part of Russia and work as much as you like. You do not want? Sit at home and don’t ....

      Do you agree to feed them if they become part of Russia?
      1. stariy
        stariy 21 February 2014 20: 45
        +1
        Quote: sss5.papu
        Do you agree to feed them if they become part of Russia?

        And now you feed wassat
        1. sss5.papu
          sss5.papu 22 February 2014 18: 47
          0
          Quote: stariy
          Quote: sss5.papu
          Do you agree to feed them if they become part of Russia?

          And now you feed wassat

          I did not invite them to Uzbekistan! People try to piss off (as they think) when they realize that they said stupidity and they have nothing to answer
  2. Zamachus
    Zamachus 21 February 2014 09: 05
    +9
    we need strict migration standards and quotas for the slave of power, what is more than the norm to deliver to the border and walk around your homeland and also set your passports for 10 years, you don’t look at them, you will decrease their agility, they will start to raise their economy
    1. Gunsmith
      Gunsmith 21 February 2014 11: 00
      +2
      There is nothing for them to raise, and no one. Not everyone can read. The Russians survived - that’s what the consequences are. I once said, I don’t remember here, not here: when, during the first * national * revolt, the Russians fled from the proud mountainous Kyrgyz - in a mono-national republic two weeks later all high-tech and low-tech production started - from turbines to state district power plants to machine tools in factories . But if they solved the problem with specialists at the state district power station — they brought back the former workers for crazy money under government security guarantees, then everything else remains to this day. And fuck with him. And with them.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 21 February 2014 11: 39
        +13
        [quote = Armsman] They have nothing to raise, and no one. Not everyone can read. The Russians survived - that's what the consequences are. I once said, I don’t remember here, not here: when, during the first * national * riot, the Russians fled from the proud mountainous Kyrgyz - in a mono-national republic two weeks later all high-tech and low-tech production started - from turbines at state district power plants to machine tools in factories . But if they solved the problem with specialists at the state district power station - they brought back the former workers for crazy money under government security guarantees, then everything else remains to this day. [quote] [/ quote]
        Touching the Kyrgyz reality touches me! I’m Russian and I live here already in the 4 generation, I haven’t run anywhere and there are about 500 thousand like me here. Around Bishkek there are many Russian villages. In Bishkek, Russian sounds more often than the native language. As Comrade Vysotsky used to say ... and we profiled the country, and there our people are a quarter. By the way, Koreans, Tatars, Germans, Turks, Russified Chinese consider themselves Russian-speaking here!
        1. varov14
          varov14 21 February 2014 12: 37
          +1
          Here, to connect and create jobs on the spot, but our migration is cheaper - divide and conquer. I wonder when our security officials will begin to wet, in which country they sympathize with them?
        2. Gunsmith
          Gunsmith 21 February 2014 14: 33
          +1
          Yes, you tell this to our teacher Seryozha Skripkin (they worked at the same school) —that who fought Russian old men, women and children from Kyrgyzstan with passes in the mountains. Here specifically and explain where who was at that time. Personally, I do not care - I'm a xenophophobe and a fascist. Continue to continue? And finish - thanks to comrade akaev or someone there now for our happy ..., because I’m the sixth in the world alive too - and enough friends and acquaintances. To know in real life where and how Russians were pressed.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 21 February 2014 14: 55
            +6
            Anatoly, can you specifically learn from which region of Kyrgyzstan your Skripkin withdrew Russian fights? Name specifically the region, city, village ??? A good friend told me too. that in Moscow hens are milked, and Bishkek brings bird milk to us, and they sell like sweets!
            1. Gunsmith
              Gunsmith 21 February 2014 18: 04
              0
              I'll ask you tomorrow!
          2. stariy
            stariy 21 February 2014 20: 50
            +1
            Quote: Gunsmith
            who with battles led Russian old men from Kirghizi

            And in our trees, watermelons grow wassat
        3. Gunsmith
          Gunsmith 21 February 2014 18: 03
          0
          Yes, I'm only glad if this is so now. But the fact that they cut the Russians is also a fact. Our training all over in the 81st went to Afghanistan ... - and what if now the spirits call me my best friend (the Americans are even worse, as it turned out - will I make friends with them? Bonbu, vacuum. Everything and everyone. And then - * partners ... partners * ... Chizhiki!
          1. stariy
            stariy 21 February 2014 20: 58
            +2
            Quote: Gunsmith
            But the fact that they cut the Russians is also a fact.

            Who told you this nonsense ??? It is true that the Kyrgyz fought with the Uzbeks (they have love like Armenians and Azerbaijanis), but no one has ever nitrogated Russians. And there are enough marinals and morons everywhere ...
  3. Tersky
    Tersky 21 February 2014 09: 07
    +8
    Another republic of "permanent Maidan". For 10 months of 2013, the number of rallies in Bishkek alone took place 410. Of these, according to the Kyrgyz Ministry of Internal Affairs, 277 were political in nature, and 133 socio-economic and domestic ones. According to the UN World Food Program, 2,2 million residents of Kyrgyzstan, of which 66 percent is rural, live below the poverty line. In general, this same “poverty” affected every third person - in 2013 its level increased to 38 percent against 18 percent in 2012. So all the claims to their bai, they wanted progress, get the Middle Ages.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 21 February 2014 10: 37
      +10
      Victor, have you been to Bishkek? For your information, Bishkek takes the 1st place in the world in terms of the number of car refueling stations per capita, there are as many Mercedes cars as they drive along the streets of Bishkek, probably not in Germany either. Due to the frequent change of presidents, local businessmen are withdrawing their assets and production to Kazakhstan, Russia, and Turkey. Concerning the rallies, rallies in Kyrgyzstan have become a profitable business! According to UN criteria, half of Russia lives below the poverty line. In Kyrgyzstan, the poorest live in the Batken region, the Batken region is geographically isolated from the rest of Kyrgyzstan, while most of it is mountains that are not suitable for agriculture. I dare to note that not when Kyrgyzstan did not want to leave the USSR, it was decided by well-known figures for it, the KirSSR was one of the most attractive republics in the USSR in terms of living standards, so no one was sick of independence here. Of the total number of labor migrants working in Russia, at most 10% sweep the streets, the rest are hairdressers, doctors, designers, salesmen, builders and representatives of working specialties. This article is one of those aimed at inciting hatred of foreigners, in order to isolate Russia within its borders, put an end to its geopolitical interests, ultimately fragment it and make it a raw materials appendage.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 21 February 2014 11: 15
        +2
        Quote: Serg65
        Due to the frequent change of presidents, local businessmen are withdrawing their assets and production to Kazakhstan, Russia, Turkey.

        For 2012, the Kigiz guest workers transferred 1 billion 455,5 million dollars to the republic from Russia. Give me the number of assets withdrawn from Kyrgyzstan to Russia.
        Quote: Serg65
        By UN criteria, half of Russia lives below the poverty line.

        I have other information. Since 2000, Russia has managed to reduce the number of people living below the poverty line almost threefold - from 30% to 11,2%, ”
        Quote: Serg65
        Of the total number of labor migrants working in Russia, the streets are sweeping 10%, the rest are hairdressers, doctors, designers, sellers, builders and representatives of workers.
        And I even think that they rushed to hold a meeting at the Russian embassy, ​​it turns out that there were designers, sellers, hairdressers and doctors in the crowd .... Igor Polyakov, an expert at the Center for Macroeconomic Analysis and Short-Term Forecasting (CMACP):In construction, illegal work is mainly done by Tajiks and Kyrgyz. In the trade sector and housing and communal services the citizens of Uzbekistan prevail. It should be taken into account that only 26% of the total working age population of Russia lives in the Central Federal District, but this is where the main demand for labor is concentrated. Therefore, the center of the country is forced to draw workers from outside.
        As for Moscow, here the situation was changed by a series of actions by the local authorities to oust migrants in the 2012-13 years, including the demolition of stalls. Part of the migrants thereby lost their economic base and the meaning of their stay in the capital. However, in general, the scope of employment of migrant workers in the city remains wide. First of all, it is housing and communal services.
        Quote: Serg65
        This article, one of those aimed at inciting hatred of foreigners, in order to isolate Russia within its borders, put an end to its geopolitical interests, ultimately fragment it and make it a raw materials appendage.
        In order for such articles not to happen, first of all, foreigners must learn to respect the country, the people living in the country, its customs, and the laws into which they enter in order to feed themselves and their families, and not drag their medieval mentality into it.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 21 February 2014 12: 08
          +11
          What you Victor smart! Business in Kyrgyzstan is 80% shadow and of course I can’t provide you any numbers. The fact that Kyrgyz capital is involved in the fields of construction, furniture production, clothing manufacture, meat processing, hotel business, you, as I think. do not believe the word? Near the Russian embassy with dozens of human rights activists and newly-minted politicians who wanted to promote themselves, there were no smell of labor migrants there. Regarding respect for the country and people ... when the Kyrgyz and his wife speak Russian in bed, when my Kyrgyz friends congratulate me on Christmas, Kresheny, Easter, when in the bazaar the Kyrgyz, with money and choice, prefers Russian goods (Russian goods - it is a SIGN OF QUALITY) to Chinese, he will choose Russian, when at the Slavic University a competition at Moscow State University, how can I talk about not respecting Russian? I will not hide, disrespect slips too. but it comes from mentally weak young brains subject to various influences.
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 21 February 2014 12: 54
            +2
            Quote: Serg65
            I will not hide, disrespect slips too. but it comes from mentally weak young brains subject to various influences.

            As if Tartarstan is described or Bashkostan.
            In short, guys. Drive your beys, albeit through the "russomaidan", join Russia as a federal republic. Get loans from the federal center for the development of industry and the agricultural sector.
      2. Humpty
        Humpty 21 February 2014 11: 30
        +3
        Hello, Sergey . Make a discount. For those who do not know Bishkek, these are many, many yurts. All donkeys go to work, to study. The plan is like a cake with a union of 22 kopecks. Urban yurts are heated like dung in the mountains. In Russia, Israel, Germany, all students from Bishkek (Frunze) studied for sheep.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 21 February 2014 12: 33
          +9
          Hi Alexander, and don’t say, now ask ... where is this Kyrgyzstan? So every second finger will point to the sky. In Russia they say to me ... and you are a Kyrgyz, it’s strange, and so it looks like a Russian! EHHHH was a GREAT country, a great nation .... insulting to tears !!!!
      3. varov14
        varov14 21 February 2014 12: 46
        0
        Your words and our power are in the ears. The country acquires resources, restores old plants, migration comes to naught, it is always better to live at home, if you have something to eat and where to work.
  4. Humpty
    Humpty 21 February 2014 09: 07
    +1
    There is no such kind of human activity where they have entered so as not to spoil.
    The rest of the investigation.
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  6. rugor
    rugor 21 February 2014 09: 22
    +8
    Why do we need small-sized people in Russia who can only sweep the streets?


    What do you mean why? Streets sweep! At a construction site, mix cement. In the production of parts, an offering to a highly qualified Russian machine operator. In a word, work is unmeasured. Another thing is that there must be a clear quota for sweepers, kneaders and feeders. For them, security guarantees and protection of rights during their stay in the Russian Federation. The rest in the neck !!!!!! angry
    1. ultra
      ultra 21 February 2014 10: 32
      0
      Quote: rugor
      What do you mean why? Streets sweep! At a construction site, mix cement. In the manufacture of parts

      For kui they are not needed here !!!! Borders from CA to the castle, entry only by visa, not more than 90 days, for violation of deportation with a life-time ban on entry into the Russian Federation!
    2. varov14
      varov14 21 February 2014 12: 53
      0
      So our "literate" can only be trusted that the streets are revenge, don't you think? If it were otherwise, we would be discussing other issues here.
      1. ultra
        ultra 21 February 2014 14: 29
        0
        Quote: varov14
        So our "literate" can only be trusted that the streets are revenge, don't you think?

        I’m finding it! It’s only ourselves to blame for this! It's time to stop buying diplomas for money, you just need to LEARN !!!! Like in the good old days!
  7. mountain
    mountain 21 February 2014 09: 27
    +4
    I already have a gray matter crisis, I don’t understand what the problem is? On the one hand, in Russia we have a shortage of labor; on the other hand, unemployment and the third, illegal immigrants, migrant workers. Russia was going to raise the east, but there weren’t enough hands and people couldn’t shake any promises from their homes. Is it really impossible to conclude labor contracts and send them to gigantic construction sites, I mean migrant workers. At one time, everything was built like that, only permits were given to them, well, and now, an agreement.
    1. Name
      Name 21 February 2014 09: 42
      +5
      After the SUMMIT construction projects, so much from Central Asia settled in the Far East ... there is nowhere to spit and you will find yourself in a native of ...
    2. varov14
      varov14 21 February 2014 12: 55
      0
      So the east must be raised with the hands of the east.
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 21 February 2014 09: 36
    +12
    What do you resent? Decisions are made in the Kremlin. They decided to destroy the Russian land, so it will be so. The fact that they broadcast about scrapes, so it seemed to you.
    All this is sad. When you leave the house, there is some Kyrgyz-Tajik, except hello, nothing in Russian. I go further, they know the Azerbaijani store, they know the Russian language, but there are so many of them that they talk to each other, you understand ... Walk a little further, there is a wave of Vietnamese-Chinese, rolling to the "Moscow" shopping center.
    You want to take a break from all this. To go far away, for example, to the ancient Russian city of Rostov the Great. And there is the same thing, on every corner shawarma-khachapuri and these "mine-yours".
    And so I want to be in Russia again. Where ditties sing, eat pancakes and cheesecakes. Where they escort the Russian Winter, and not some kind of Valentine love. In summer, believers and atheists go to commemorate the departed on their parents' day. And do not celebrate the birthday of a bush.
    Carried away? Yes pent!
    1. Arbatov
      Arbatov 21 February 2014 10: 25
      +8
      Maybe a little off topic, but inspired.
      He served in the OMSDON for an urgent period; they flew fairly well in Transcaucasia and Middle Asia. At the end of October we arrive from Armenia. They took off - it was + 16, sat on Chkalovsky - clean frosty air, snowdrifts and a strong minus. We return to the division, the road through some village, a Russian woman walks through the village, rosy, cheeky, chubby, carries buckets on the rocker arms (!!).
      And now, after the foreign land, looking at this woman and breathing our air, I so piercingly realized, brothers, that my mother and this woman, and her whole unfamiliar village.
      Such was the feeling of the Motherland, sorry for the lyrics.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 21 February 2014 10: 34
        +2
        Quote: Arbatov
        Such was the feeling of the Motherland, sorry for the lyrics.

        There’s nothing to forgive, not the lyrics of the soul’s souls.
      2. Gunsmith
        Gunsmith 21 February 2014 14: 50
        0
        And here we are, Russians.
    2. Gunsmith
      Gunsmith 21 February 2014 11: 43
      +2
      Gardamir, can I make a contribution to your pastoral? Present times dictate the meeting of Russian national holidays, always in black shirts, holding in their hands a long-wooden thread (the Amer’s bat will also come off), it is necessary to start at an Asian-vegetable cemetery, singing * God Save Tsar * to the Rammstein backing track. It is necessary to have distinctive characters in the form of numbers 14/88 or, at worst, the ancient Slavic runes * SS * - then it will be possible to say that the holiday was a success. 88!
    3. varov14
      varov14 21 February 2014 13: 03
      0
      Moscow! So you do not need to rob the outskirts, live more modestly. Anyway, ring roads do not cover the whole of Russia. Navel, it can also be unleashed, or obstruction, also an operation.
      1. Gunsmith
        Gunsmith 21 February 2014 14: 39
        0
        And I live in the Urals - no matter what the Russian arms center of Russia is. And I drove on the forum * Weaponsmith * - and do not care for me on the Ring.
    4. Andrey KZ
      Andrey KZ 21 February 2014 15: 52
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      Where ditties sing, eat pancakes and cheesecakes. Where they see off the Russian Winter, and not some kind of Valentine love. In summer, believers and atheists go to commemorate the departed on their parents' day. And do not celebrate the birthday of a bush.
      Then you need us. With us, the Slavic Cultural Center, with the support of the authorities, celebrates Maslenitsa and other holidays on a large scale. With festivities in squares and parks. And we burn the scarecrow, and bake pancakes.
  9. Name
    Name 21 February 2014 09: 40
    +4
    An imitation of the government imitates activities aimed at tightening migration policies most likely having their own interest ... Otherwise, we would have put things in order for a long time!
  10. Mercenary
    Mercenary 21 February 2014 09: 40
    +5
    I have no words. The FMS and the soft-bodied Duma got their stupidity.
  11. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 21 February 2014 09: 54
    +3
    It is necessary to express distrust to the government, since it is pursuing a policy of forcing interethnic relations and strives with its "ideas" not to improve the life of the people, but to deprive the last guarantees from the state: the right to work and housing (they want to destroy "not promising" cities, villages and villages already in en masse have already sunk into oblivion).
  12. darksoul
    darksoul 21 February 2014 09: 59
    +4
    let them rally in the order strictly defined by law, but they must be expelled even more and toughen immigration policy
  13. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 21 February 2014 10: 39
    +5
    The visa regime needs to be introduced, yesterday! Tomorrow may be too late. There are currently more than 15 million illegal immigrants in the country, of whom about 12 million are Chinese and people from the Central Asian republics. They will not assimilate, they live in our country according to their own laws. The increase in crime in large cities is from 30 to 50% (rape, murder, robbery, etc.), at the expense of migrants. What else to expect? Look at what is being done in France and Germany. What has Switzerland done with regard to migrants? If we continue to remain silent, then the problems will be very serious and they are just around the corner.
  14. Neophyte
    Neophyte 21 February 2014 10: 49
    -1
    We lose on all fronts! Hordes of nomad barbarians invaded Russia! The Middle, Front and Back East surrounded Russia from all sides, arrogantly requiring conditions for existence. The presidential khans are quite rubbing their hands and calculating the profitability of the national budget.
    Why do something when money is already going on?
    The population of these strange government entities is constantly growing. What will
    say our politicians in 10-20 years, when these hordes will settle in Russia, demanding citizenship?
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 21 February 2014 11: 22
      +9
      And besides screaming, crying, snot and saliva, do you at least do something to change the situation? Putin- "bastard" you even give money, so that you have children, but there is no where there! I need to make a career, I have not walked up yet, I have not yet been to the Bahamas, in Thailand, what kind of children, God be with you, I still want to live for myself !!!! You don’t give birth to children, parents are left to fend for themselves, and then shout what bastards officials, who cannot provide pensioners! How many lyrics are in the comments, but all that is necessary at the government level to adopt a law that the employer has no right to pay the employee a salary not lower than the average wage, while violation of this law should be punished with huge fines. Which entrepreneur would be interested in a cheap worker in this situation?
      1. varov14
        varov14 21 February 2014 13: 10
        0
        So the employer controls the Kremlin, didn’t he know which law? Everything else is true, it is necessary to breed - electricity must be turned off.
  15. Mihail29
    Mihail29 21 February 2014 11: 08
    +1
    What can we expect from our government if a few months ago the "iPhone" (DA Medvedev) said in all seriousness that the increase in the number of migrants did not affect unemployment in any way.
  16. 787nkx
    787nkx 21 February 2014 11: 25
    +2
    I think that in relation to the fraternal countries of Asia, it is necessary to build relations according to the following scheme:
    If you want people to work with us, do this, that, and that.
    Do not want, in a month we return everyone back.
  17. melan
    melan 21 February 2014 12: 03
    +1
    Russia has ALWAYS been a multinational state. Somehow you got along and it was a GREAT state. No need to fence off our former republics. It is necessary to build mutually beneficial relationships. Otherwise, another American base will soon appear or a second Syria breaks out.
    Well, here is for the general development of Kyrgyzstan after the collapse.

    1. Serg65
      Serg65 22 February 2014 11: 59
      +4
      [quote] [/ quote] [quote = melan]
      Well, here is for the general development of Kyrgyzstan after the collapse.

      Who will tell me what type this is? 30% of the truth imposed on 70% of the truth
  18. serge
    serge 21 February 2014 15: 07
    -3
    By the appearance of the Kyrgyz in Moscow, at least no less than Tajiks. Tajiks have at least a European facial structure, albeit tanned, but these typical Mongoloids behave like Mongoloids.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 21 February 2014 17: 51
      +2
      Judging by your comment, skin color and eye shape matter to you. And how do you live in multinational Russia? You yourself lead to the collapse of the country — you have few Turks — Tatars, Yakuts, etc. .. Do you even turn on your brains when you write. hi
    2. Gunsmith
      Gunsmith 21 February 2014 18: 18
      +1
      Okts! By their faces, they only knew how to determine nationality in the Third Reich! In Bashkirs, the Tatars, and the Komi - and Nicholas - and even (I’ll tell you a secret) - I have a lot of them as friends in Perm, even though their cut of eyes does not roll my aesthetic component. Do it easier - Jews and cyclists are to blame!
  19. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 21 February 2014 17: 40
    -1
    Quote: This vicious, corrupting practice is best seen in Russia's relations with the poorest Central Asian republics - with Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.

    It is necessary to understand that such a policy will not lead to anything good. Wherever you kiss them everywhere you see ...
  20. turcom
    turcom 21 February 2014 21: 28
    +2
    I look at the comments, not a single "old", all "new". But from myself I would like to add one thing - since it is so bad with the Kirghiz (I read all the comments - 95% lies, 5% true), the Russian Federation needs to fence itself off with an iron curtain within its borders. Who's in the way? Kyrgyz? They can hardly interfere. Push away the only country that not only speaks Russian, but also thinks in Russian. Great Russia no longer has friends, no brothers, even in the Slavic environment, except for Belarus, in which Ukraine will soon repeat itself with ёvromaydan. Even here, in wild "in your opinion, Kyrgyzstan there will be no such Russophobia, since the local people know how much the Russian (Russian) people have done for the Kyrgyz."
  21. turcom
    turcom 21 February 2014 21: 44
    0
    Forgot to add to
    Quote: serge
    By the appearance of the Kyrgyz in Moscow, at least no less than Tajiks. Tajiks have at least a European facial structure, albeit tanned, but these typical Mongoloids behave like Mongoloids.
    So let yourself have more Tajiks, you will have more citizens with European facial structures. By the way, according to the comment
    Quote: Gunsmith
    Yes, you tell this to our teacher Seryozha Skripkin (they worked at the same school) —that who fought Russian old men, women and children from Kyrgyzstan with passes in the mountains. Here specifically and explain where who was at that time. Personally, I do not care - I'm a xenophophobe and a fascist. Continue to continue? And finish - thanks to comrade akaev or someone there now for our happy ..., because I’m the sixth in the world alive too - and enough friends and acquaintances. To know in real life where and how Russians were pressed.
    everything just happened in European Tajikistan
  22. and why
    and why 22 February 2014 01: 25
    0
    The fact that Russia does not take real measures to combat illegal labor migration has two reasons: economic and foreign policy. Economic - labor migration is beneficial for entrepreneurs, including state-owned companies. Sochi, who built? Foreign policy - Russia is forced in every way to support the states of Central Asia, including the employment of their citizens. If this does not happen, power in the countries of Central Asia will be given to individuals and organizations that are negatively related to Russia. And then - Kazakhstan and three directions for strikes - the Urals, Siberian and Astrakhan. In all these areas, it will not be possible to put an iron curtain.
  23. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 February 2014 18: 55
    0
    It’s a fig that on the territory of these states we have our bases, our facilities. You can overlap even tomorrow and expel echelons. Only here return will come to us sickly. Russia needs to do an ideology. And the ideology is such that every Russian understands that this country needs it, that the country is interested in it personally, that it lives, works, and multiplies. Now we see that we are biomass in the territory.