The United States in the Ukrainian crisis: a shift in the balance of power towards extremism

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The latest facts relating to the actions of the United States in Ukraine confirm previous assessments regarding the use of more stringent methods by Washington to put pressure on the Ukrainian authorities on all points of crisis settlement: the release of all those detained for participating in riots, the complete reformatting of the Ukrainian government itself, including the formation of a fully opposition government , a return to the 2004 constitution of the year and, it is possible, early presidential elections.



Only through organized speeches of the most radical protesters - neo-Nazi organizations, subordinated to an extensive network of militants, can achieve rapid progress on all these points and force the government to make unilateral concessions.

The use of militants and paramilitary groups to combat the power, their introduction into the general system of the balance of power in Ukraine creates the threat of constant street riots, political destabilization and, in the long term, permanent armed conflict.

The political legalization of neo-Nazi organizations, their withdrawal from the shadows as a side of negotiations between the government and the parliamentary opposition, while maintaining their militarized underground, is apparently now the main task of Washington.

The US position on the current Ukrainian crisis was fully revealed in the intercepted negotiations of Western diplomats, in particular V.Nuland with the US Ambassador to Kiev D.Payett, as well as the Secretary General of the European External Action Service Helga Schmidt with the EU representative in Ukraine Jan Tombinsky. Most exhaustively, it is described in the analytical material of Stratfor "New Aspects of American Foreign Policy Towards Russia".

From the document it follows that from the very beginning of the crisis, Washington chose the "balance of power" tactics. The Americans, "by providing financial and psychological support to demonstrators who protested against Yanukovych’s decision to abandon a closer relationship with Europe," and later, "speaking out against government attempts to crush the demonstrations," kept the opportunity for regime change in Ukraine with minimal participation and risk for the US .

Now official Washington believes that the EU does not act decisively in support of opponents of the Ukrainian authorities. The State Department believes that Ukraine should "act quickly and without Europeans and put together a very specific opposition coalition." "The United States is not sure that Europe has the will and interest in obstructing the actions of Russians. Therefore, a purely passive model will not work here."

Therefore, "the next step was the lowest degree of participation in the containment of the Russians ...". This means the US withdrawal from simple EU assistance in resolving the political crisis and moving to independent active intervention in Ukraine’s affairs. The US withdrawal from the shadow of Brussels in the Ukrainian conflict became fully evident at the Munich Security Conference.

The document mentioned above unequivocally states: "The United States is dissatisfied with Germany and the European Union. Logically, this should mean that the United States intends to actively support the opponents of the regime more actively than the Germans."

In terms of the current political situation in Ukraine, this means purposeful attempts to completely reformat the government, including the early presidential elections in Ukraine.

The document says it is streamlined, but analysis of the text excludes other interpretations: “Yanukovych ... acted within his authority, refusing an agreement with the EU. If demonstrators can mix the elected president because of their disagreement with his actions, they will create a precedent undermining the constitutional image Even if Yanukovych suppressed protests too severely, this does not annul his election to the presidency, but from the point of view of the balance of power strategy this is quite reasonable. Prozapadnaya (albeit ambiguous) Uk Ain will create a huge strategic problem for Russia. "

In addition, another conversation has been made public on the Internet - people with voices resembling the voices of the Secretary General of the European External Action Service Helga Schmidt and the EU representative in Ukraine Jan Tombinsky. In a conversation allegedly, Schmidt is secretly discussing with Tombinsky the issue of EU sanctions against Ukrainian officials. She complains of pressure from the US side due to the fact that the position of the European Union in the Ukrainian crisis is too soft. “The fact that you really need to know and that we are very angry is that the Americans are walking in circles and telling that the EU is too soft a stance,” she turns to Tombinsky. In turn, the EU representative in Ukraine emphasizes that the European Union does not take part in competitions with the United States - who has a stronger position, and notes that the EU has "other ways of influencing."

The position of the EU, which is now forming and representing Germany, is aimed at a more balanced participation in resolving the crisis in Ukraine. It is possible that it has undergone a significant correction under the influence of intensive interaction with the Russian Federation. This happened last week, because back in early February, German Foreign Minister Steinmeier talked about the need to put pressure on the Ukrainian authorities on the threat of sanctions.

A significant constructive moment of the current position of Germany, for which the Americans strongly criticize it, is the recognition of the crucial role of the Russian side in resolving the conflict between the government and the opposition. Significantly, the EU is restraining the opposition from making excessive and unrealistic demands for power, thereby isolating the "madmen" from the Maidan, who for the most part are ready to go to the end in a coup d'etat. This is from the point of view of Washington and is a manifestation of the "indecision" of Brussels in countering the Russians.

The manifestation of decisiveness from the point of view of Washington is precisely the introduction into the general system of the balance of domestic political forces in Ukraine of ultranationalist and frankly neo-Nazi groups that have (importantly) paramilitary formations. Their slogans and the line in relations with the authorities fully fit into the tactical line of the United States to stimulate the pressure of the protesters on power. Only they can move the current settlement process more "decisively", but the radicals, in order to make demands on their behalf to the authorities and participate in a political settlement, should be legalized.

The task of bringing neo-Nazi fighters from a marginal state into the field of public policy is currently being solved, apparently, with the direct participation of Washington.

This process began in early February, when Yarosh said that he did not rule out the Right Sector’s nomination in the presidential election. Later, the leader of the "Right Sector" in the Kiev region confirmed the urgency of the task of entering the public policy: "The problem is that now neither Triub, nor we (UNA-UNSO, included in the Right Sector) have any deputies. And for to understand the political component of what is happening in the regions, it will take some time to acclimatize. "

And last week, a member of the political council of the Right Sector reported that a political council of this organization was formed, and she herself is ready to engage in political processes in Ukraine. The idea is that the "democratic parliamentary opposition" should start consultations with the political council of the Right Sector "regarding the participation of its representatives in the political process regarding the resolution of the opposition in the country."

The sharp increase in public activity of the radicals and the expression of their intentions so far confirm their involvement in American plans in Ukraine.

Thus, in addition to the relatively sane parliamentary opposition (UDAR and “Batkivshchyna”) and legal, slightly undermined Nazis from “Freedom,” a third force is invited to participate in the political process - the openly neo-Nazi “Right Sector”.

According to the Stratfor document, Syria, in which militants (only Islamic) put pressure on legitimate power and wage a monstrous cruel war against the people, is a typical successful strategy of the balance of power, in which the equilibrium point is biased towards extremism. The authors of this analyst calmly put it as a model on a par with Ukraine.

A few days ago, the former American ambassador to Ukraine, Stephen Peifer, "not interfering" in internal countries, said that the amnesty against the "Maidan activists", the release of the building of the KSCA, st. Hrushevsky should reduce tension in Kiev, but found it necessary to emphasize: "If the genuine political process does not start, the tension on the streets of Kiev and in other cities of Ukraine is likely to increase again."

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It can be concluded that the resolution of the Ukrainian crisis is not at all the goal of US intervention in the internal affairs of Ukraine. Washington’s goal in Ukraine is merely the continuation of a geopolitical confrontation with the Russian Federation. Washington deliberately makes the entire population of the country, civil peace and harmony in Ukrainian society hostage its groundless aggressive geopolitical ambitions in Ukraine.

Therefore, a tough and irreconcilable reaction of Ukrainian society to the facts of US intervention in the internal Ukrainian crisis and to attempts by extremist groups to legalize is necessary. The inclusion of militant neo-Nazi groups in the legal political field in addition to the “Freedom” will significantly shift the balance of power in Ukrainian politics to the right, aggravate the crisis of Ukrainian statehood and may lead to a real armed civil war. Residents and authorities of the south-eastern region of Ukraine never capitulate to neo-Nazism, which has no right to exist in principle, especially on the territory of Ukraine, which is already clearly stated in this region. Most of the residents of the central as well as the western regions of the country did not say their word about neo-Nazis.
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  1. +7
    20 February 2014 18: 23
    If demonstrators can confuse the elected president because of their disagreement with his actions, they will set a precedent that undermines the constitutional government

    amerovsky democracy in action
    1. Mature naturalist
      +19
      20 February 2014 18: 43
      The reaction of society.
      1. +5
        20 February 2014 21: 25
        It's a pity for the Ukrainians! It seems that none of the maydauns asks the question "what will happen next?" What do they want to change?
        Different people have different hobbies. Yanukovych has a hobby - to trash the Maidans. Where is the determination of the Head of State? Where is the responsibility to people?
        As for the Ukrainians themselves, their desire for poverty by any available means is simply amazing! People on the Maidan are fighting (in any case, the Maidan began) for the right to be farm laborers and slaves in Poland. I don’t understand this!
        The fact that all this was muddied by Washington did not raise any doubts, but I did not believe that they would achieve SUCH success!
        I'd like to believe that GDP is just waiting for the Olympics to end! Well, we can’t stand aside while the Americans are troubling Ukraine!
        1. +1
          20 February 2014 23: 24
          the end of the Olympiad is coming soon, let’s see there ... a decisive battle is coming for Ukraine, for we are next.
      2. +1
        20 February 2014 23: 21
        "Syria" has also come to Ukraine, to RUSSIAN land, it is necessary to defend the fraternal state, otherwise we, RUSSIA, are in the next turn ...
    2. +11
      20 February 2014 18: 57
      Well, I just saw on the news his commander T. Tsoi. Today he was captured by Bandera along with a group of conscripts.
      1. +5
        20 February 2014 23: 25
        THE WAR HAS APPROACHED THE BORDERS OF RUSSIA. THERE IS NO LONGER TO GO BACK. UKRAINE NEEDS TO DEFEND !!!!!!
    3. +16
      20 February 2014 19: 03
      I have already written, but I will repeat: the policy is American - first to pay for the start of mass demonstrations (by promising a BIG candy), then to attract world attention to this, then to blame the legitimate authorities for everything, demanding the release of the "freedom fighters", to create even more chaos, and the use of force by the authorities once again by the whole West to accuse the authorities of trampling on freedom and democracy. Further, either the introduction of NATO troops at the request of the paid ones, or a stake on a new pro-American puppet president. am
      hi Hi Andrew!
      1. +3
        20 February 2014 19: 20
        Quote: major071
        Hi Andrew!

        Hi, Vova hi
        Quote: major071
        Next or the entry of NATO troops at the request of paid

        it is not real. even if the paid ones kiss the whole anus to Amers, asking the NATO troops to enter the troops, they will only pat them on the shoulder (or whatever) and explain that this is contrary to international laws. not that country and not those neighbors to dispose freely. in here, of course, go 0, but not dupes
      2. 0
        20 February 2014 20: 29
        Take it easy! NATO is not going to enter Ukraine. So is Russia. Nobody needs this, but the EU in the first place. There, not all measures have been exhausted. All parties agree on one thing - democratic snap elections. Although everyone understands them in their own way. But in fact - the people themselves must make the choice. There is no need for political foreign midwives.
        1. +8
          20 February 2014 21: 15
          I do not agree with you. An extraordinary election is what a fright? More recently, there were democratic elections, Yanukovych won them. No one disputed his legitimacy until 11.2013 in the capital of a gang of militants. In these conditions, the President is still resigned? Let, bad, let’s not like, There will be elections in 2015, don’t vote for him! And then after each decision of the president it will be possible to raise a rebellion? How often then to elect presidents? Every year, month, week? Or in the morning they drank a coffee, shot it in the window, and go to the polls! By the way, if you want to see what happened in February 1917, look at Ukraine, and what happened to the country when the tsar abdicated, you probably know.
          1. hell hell
            -1
            21 February 2014 05: 42
            And what happened to that country in February 1917? And what happened to her dashing 90? Well crap from the transformation is not long, give him the king!
            1. +2
              21 February 2014 05: 46
              Quote: ow hell
              Well crap from the transformation is not long, give him the king!

              Another creep out sad How many of you are multiplying and multiplying? what Well catch angry
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    4. +8
      20 February 2014 19: 20
      Quote: andrei332809
      If demonstrators can confuse the elected president because of their disagreement with his actions, they will set a precedent that undermines the constitutional government

      Do they even remember what they like to be in the geyropu? Absenteeism in the psychiatric hospital is being set aside. I am amazed at how much anger is in people.
      1. +2
        20 February 2014 19: 27
        Quote: ele1285
        Maidanut truancy in a mental hospital set

        yes no. at the very beginning, a psychiatric hospital. and at this moment they have done so much that they are looking for them with lanterns in the next world am
        1. +1
          20 February 2014 19: 42
          Quote: andrei332809
          at the very beginning, a psychiatric hospital. and at this moment they have done so much that they are looking for them with lanterns in the next world am

          Someone yes, a single room meter per meter and two in depth, the rest horse doses of haloperidol and forced sterilization, so as not to multiply.
          1. 0
            21 February 2014 10: 50
            In my opinion, they all smell of earth, the preparations will not help them anymore. They should be treated by a pathologist.
      2. Mature naturalist
        +4
        20 February 2014 19: 46
        Quote: ele1285
        I am amazed at how much anger is in people.

        It's about Bendera: at the historical (genetic) level + brainwashing over the past decades ...
        1. +4
          20 February 2014 20: 24
          Quote: Mature Naturalist

          It's about Bendera: at the historical (genetic) level + brainwashing over the past decades ...

          You know, I don’t agree about the genetic level. Where is he from? This is the entrance yard of Europe. There were no Turks, Hungarians, Poles, French, Germans who weren’t there, starting from the Tatar-Mongol and beyond. Probably only Icelanders were gone.
          And I completely agree with the brainwashing, but it’s beneficial for someone. We’re not talking about arrogant Saxons and Germans, they are customers. Someone allowed this in the country. The situation is like with Wahhabis. It’s officially forbidden, but they appear, it means someone helps.
          1. main
            +2
            21 February 2014 00: 37
            indeed, they don’t look much like people. Like Tolkien’s there * creatures from the void * .Because they cover their faces so that no one can chew on it. And about Germany, it seems to me that someone deliberately pulls the Germans into conflict, trying to cause associations with the First and Second World Wars and, as a result, sharply negative attitude towards them
      3. +1
        20 February 2014 20: 50
        Quote: ele1285
        Do they even remember what they like to be in the geyropu? Absenteeism in the psychiatric hospital is being set aside. I am amazed at how much anger is in people.

        So they’re feeding Klitschko with battle psychotropics, hence aggression and psychosis.
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  2. +7
    20 February 2014 18: 24
    A new striped strategy, use Bandera as a nationalistic jig .... Yanukovych send troops ... This is the beginning of another World War, 1914 and 2014 .... repeating history?
    1. avt
      +6
      20 February 2014 18: 46
      Quote: Scandinavian
      A new striped strategy, use Bandera as a nationalistic jig ....

      request We arrived .... Didn't they know that their staff had been picked up during the war? After the liberation of Ukraine, the UNA UNSO detachments had a large number of Germans who did not come out with their own. So immediately after they received the appropriate guarantees that they were taken into their hands - at the command of their leadership, at once the Germans were destroyed, so as not to "discredit the" newly acquired "fighters for the Independence." Since then, in 1944, they NEVER nothing themselves without the permission of amers did not do.
      1. 0
        21 February 2014 00: 02
        An attempt to catch up with the borders of Russia. Even today, the Franks are ready to break in. Yanukovych is being washed away for a long time. Ask us for help officially. We will give it to the Poles, no one will touch the east.
    2. 0
      20 February 2014 18: 49
      He seems to have no faithful troops. I’ve read it now, in Dnepropetrovsk, the paratroopers got off the train, barricades were made on the tracks of the mandate. It was necessary to carry out mobilization in the eastern regions.
      1. +11
        20 February 2014 19: 09
        Quote: sergey32
        He seems to have no faithful troops.

        What fidelity can there be to a power that throws its defenders to slaughter?
        Well, think for yourself?
        I wonder at the heroism of the Golden Eagle, who stands there and is waiting for an order?
        In general, the behavior of Yanukovych in normal countries would have been qualified for a long time, as CRIMINAL INACTIVITY and would be removed from office for a start.
        But I say again that Ukraine is not a state, but a simulation, and always has been.
        By the way, where is this Negro in a Scottish skirt, I want to listen to his reasoning about the Geyropeysky choice of Ukraine.
        1. +1
          20 February 2014 20: 04
          Quote: ATATA
          What fidelity can there be to a power that throws its defenders to slaughter?

          Is the oath of allegiance to authority? Those days have sunk into oblivion.
    3. +4
      20 February 2014 19: 09
      Yanukovych send troops ... This is the beginning of another World War, 1914 and 2014 .... a repetition of history?

      Reading comments on Ukrainian citizens, I’m not sure that the Ukrainian army is capable of solving such problems.
      There probably is such a fermentation in the minds, they will begin to fraternize and go over to the side of the bander.
      It seems that a simple Ukrainian doesn’t care what language to speak and how to pray to God, if only the fat in the refrigerator was ...
      1. +3
        20 February 2014 20: 13
        Quote: sak1969
        Reading comments on Ukrainian citizens, I’m not sure that the Ukrainian army is capable of solving such problems.

        What strikes me is not even the lack of comments from the military, but simply the lack of reaction.
        I think the real day X has arrived, but does Ukraine have this army, what is it like?
        If this is only half of the airborne forces from Dnepropetrovsk then the days of the country are numbered!
        1. +3
          20 February 2014 22: 06
          A nation that does not feed its army will feed a stranger. Are there people on the site who believe that we spend too much money on re-equipping the army? Kudrin remembers saying something. Who believes - watch TV.
    4. +2
      20 February 2014 19: 44
      Enemy at the gate!
    5. +1
      20 February 2014 20: 27
      Quote: Scandinavian
      This is the beginning of another World War, 1914 and 2014 .... a repetition of history?

      “History repeats itself twice: the first time as a tragedy, the second as a farce.” I don’t remember who said it, but God forbid it was true.
  3. +4
    20 February 2014 18: 24
    The situation is difficult, but when the Olympics end, Vladimir Vladimirovich’s hands will be untied. I hope he takes steps to restore order in Ukraine. Not by populist methods, but imperceptibly, in secret, most likely by the hands of Americans. No wonder the US press is full of caricatures of Putin and Obama, where Obama appears as a runaway black man with a bundle on a stick, and Putin as a tank driver.
    1. +2
      20 February 2014 18: 57
      Quote: Uncle
      The situation is difficult, but when the Olympics end, Vladimir Vladimirovich’s hands will be untied.

      Well, how much can you already repeat these mantras about the Olympics?
      The Maidan could be dispersed 3 months ago, and without blood and for the Olympics, everyone would have forgotten about the Maidan.
      Just Ukraine, this is a state simulation!
      There is no power, and Yanukovych, this is a simulation of the president.
      What to do NOW in Russia is another question and there is no easy answer.
      Just send troops 24.02.2014 to the Dnieper, and in the south to Odessa?
      But is it not a too greasy present to give maydanuts to Kiev?
      What the hell am I ....
      No one will send troops will be stupidly watching.
      1. +2
        20 February 2014 19: 19
        Quote: ATATA
        There is no power, and Yanukovych, this is a simulation of the president


        It would be much better.
        1. +3
          20 February 2014 19: 25
          Quote: Cherdak
          It would be much better.

          No.
          The flag behind is not the same.
          No one will help this pseudo state, not even Putin.
          1. -1
            20 February 2014 21: 14
            Quote: ATATA
            Nobody will help this pseudo state


            Maybe so? Though dumb somehow ...

            Seen not fully thought out fool
        2. +4
          20 February 2014 19: 30
          Quote: Cherdak
          It would be much better.

          something like this?
          1. +4
            20 February 2014 21: 18
            Quote: andrei332809
            something like this?


            Final version:
            1. operator35
              -2
              21 February 2014 00: 05
              Quote: Cherdak
              Quote: andrei332809
              something like this?


              Final version:

              hello everyone
              so that's who shot at the "golden eagles" ...
              provoke, Vladimir Vladimirovich?))
    2. +7
      20 February 2014 19: 02
      Quote: Uncle
      The situation is difficult, but when the Olympics end, Vladimir Vladimirovich’s hands will be untied. I hope he takes steps to restore order in Ukraine. Not by populist methods, but imperceptibly, in secret, most likely by the hands of Americans. No wonder the US press is full of caricatures of Putin and Obama, where Obama appears as a runaway black man with a bundle on a stick, and Putin as a tank driver.

      How zadolbali with the Olympics. Decisions must be made when the situation requires it. I don't care if there is an olympiad or not. I would generally cancel the closing ceremony as a sign of sorrow for the fratricidal war unleashed in the USA and the EU in Ukraine.
  4. 0
    20 February 2014 18: 26
    And what do the Kremlin see in the West? What are ours, what are they doing? Maybe we don’t know, or skis don’t go to the west, or the second option.
  5. +5
    20 February 2014 18: 26
    "... Ukrainian law enforcement officers issued military weapons - Interior Minister
    publication time: 18: 12
    last updated: 18:12 ... "

    Finally!
    It was necessary to wait for the police to shoot on the streets byOld ?!

    "... As Medvedev explained, the Kremlin wants the Ukrainian authorities" not to wipe their feet like a rag "..."
    (And Dimon - with teeth! wassat )
    1. +4
      20 February 2014 18: 33
      It is time for them to issue tanks, but here only military weapons.
    2. 0
      21 February 2014 00: 56
      Well that's all...
      "The Parliament of Ukraine decided to withdraw troops from Kiev"
      http://russian.rt.com/article/22702
  6. +2
    20 February 2014 18: 26
    Euromaidan is the continuation of the long-standing war of the West against Russia. Russia, as an elder brother, must protect Ukraine from falling into the sphere of influence of the notorious EU and the USA. I propose early termination of the Olympics in order to prevent the crossing of the point of no return.
  7. Reasonable, 2,3
    +1
    20 February 2014 18: 27
    Who the idiot chose? How do you do it yourself? 1500 trunks is serious. Russian troops to enter. Well, and the third world-in the local version. It is necessary to stop it. We are worse.
  8. +19
    20 February 2014 18: 33
    doctors already say that 100 people died
    it is necessary and Yanukovych and Klitschko hang on Eggs
    1. +8
      20 February 2014 19: 00
      Quote: GEOKING95
      it is necessary and Yanukovych and Klitschko hang on Eggs

      The list is short, but the idea itself is correct.
      1. Reasonable, 2,3
        0
        21 February 2014 00: 16
        DO NOT WAIT FOR IT !!
  9. +8
    20 February 2014 18: 34
    The latest facts relating to the actions of the United States in Ukraine confirm previous assessments regarding the use of more stringent methods by Washington to put pressure on the Ukrainian authorities on all points of crisis settlement: the release of all those detained for participating in riots, the complete reformatting of the Ukrainian government itself, including the formation of a fully opposition government , a return to the 2004 constitution of the year and, it is possible, early presidential elections.

    What other choices? "Three Musketeers" Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, Tyagnibok? They would be happy to take power, but now these three represent, it seems, only themselves and a group of their supporters who do not influence anything. Say something about the elections to the guys from the "Right Sector", as well as to the Gopniks who came to Kiev from all over the country and are already robbing their fellow citizens with might and main.
    Tell the aunts about the elections. Yes, and "Golden Eagle" will listen to you with pleasure. In Ukraine, the worst is happening that can happen in the country. Lack of power and lack of an alternative to power. Both sides are one step away from starting a war to completely exterminating each other, and there are no good or bad people among them.
    And the removal of Yanukovych instead of solving the problem is more likely to lead to complete anarchy, when there will be several authorities at once, when the commanders of special forces and battle groups will become the main ones. And there is no one who enjoys sufficient authority in the country to stop all this. It already looks like a dead end.
    And here, how the "lamp of democracy" - the USA and its army - can emerge from the ground. No wonder, but why was all this started? Only to create a pretext for outside interference. The ships carrying the marines in the Black Sea have already stagnated. It is possible that the denouement is near.
    1. infinite silence ...
      0
      21 February 2014 02: 35
      Quote: demotivator
      Lack of power and lack of an alternative to power.


      I believe that this is a key phrase of the current situation in Ukraine. Respect, Michael! good This is exactly what they achieved. And the fact that the removal of Yanukovych will lead to anarchy is clear!
      And the "beacon of democracy" will not keep itself waiting long ... Whether it will be Bugs Bunny Rabbit, whether it will be anyone else, but he will definitely be a protege.
  10. +1
    20 February 2014 18: 35
    Well, the main "democrats" have appeared! Isn't it time for the BB to withdraw the ambush regiment?
  11. +4
    20 February 2014 18: 35
    Well, where are our defenders of America, the beacon of democracy? Nothing to say? All the evil in the world is from America. Or who else did not understand? Then to them my condolences. This is for life.
    1. +4
      20 February 2014 19: 29
      Quote: konvalval
      Well, where are our defenders of America, the beacon of democracy? Nothing to say? All the evil in the world is from America.

      Yes, they didn’t go anywhere. Some committee was created in Moscow in support of the Maidan, Khakamada screeched what good fellows they were, the dog-horse rushed there. It’s good that they stopped showing these freaks. And they probably realized with their chicken brains that the jokes were over, if not they’ll give the deadline, they’ll hit the money. And they like money more than their parents and children.
      1. +3
        20 February 2014 21: 24
        Quote: ele1285
        horse-dog rushed there

        I sincerely wish her to catch a crazy rubber bullet with a horse's face. She would have taken Pusey there, otherwise they in Sochi run into rudeness.
    2. 0
      20 February 2014 19: 50
      Go to the side of evil! We have cookies!
      1. +1
        20 February 2014 19: 57
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        Go to the side of evil! We have cookies!

        a whole basket? and a barrel of jam? wink
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        2. +3
          20 February 2014 20: 39
          Yeah! Somewhere like that.
          http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/002/ltaq559.jpg
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      3. +8
        20 February 2014 20: 00
        - Hello, they’ll call you from the SBU.
        - I know...!
        "Where from?"
        - You called me on a switched off cell phone.
        1. +2
          20 February 2014 21: 41
          That's just the SBU there for nothing they eat their bread. The situation had to be analyzed and tracked in advance. This work is intellectual and operational. After several changes of power in the country, it seems they are just waiting with interest who will win. Intercepting the calls of the Amer ambassador is clearly not their job, but someone more interested in what is happening.
          1. 0
            20 February 2014 21: 57
            Special services do not work for rulers, but for the state. So they conduct work, and since there is no go-ahead for active actions, they do not shine.
            1. 0
              21 February 2014 11: 08
              Quote: alexneg
              Special services do not work for rulers, but for the state. So they conduct work, and since there is no go-ahead for active actions, they do not shine.

              That's it. And they are obliged to suppress any attempts to steer the country from behind a hill, contrary to state interests.
  12. +2
    20 February 2014 18: 39
    The main geopolitical situation is the possibility of influence, the Americans completely lost their conscience for them people are a tool for solving their vile and selfish tasks. In vain, banderlogs think that something is being decided, they are being manipulated, and how they do their job, witnesses are simply not destroyed; they are not needed.
    1. 0
      20 February 2014 21: 46
      Obama at home is strongly criticized that America is rapidly losing influence in the world. So he climbs out of his way. But he will get another bummer with Ukraine. He’s just a loser in life.
  13. +5
    20 February 2014 18: 44
    The word belongs to our government. And we will not give Ukraine to anyone and we will not allow it to be divided into parts, our great-grandfathers lost their lives for it.
  14. Heavy
    +12
    20 February 2014 18: 46
    Make a second Libya, or, in extreme cases, Syria near Russia, bring chaos and confusion into the second Slavic country of the former USSR after Russia, make 40+ million people wash themselves with a red yoshka - this is the blue dream of any Pindo-Stan president and a black Nobel Peace Prize shed is no exception.
    Late, gentlemen, normal Ukrainians hope for power. Power turned out to be spineless and understanding nothing of a weak asexual creature. And the dream of Western friends about a civil war on fraternal territory is getting closer to realization. Now the question is only one: can Ukraine repay the Western Bendery mess and do without Russian intervention? But the Ukrainian government needs only political will, it is necessary to start at least with Berkut - let him already work as he knows how, and not how he is forced (only there is no will).
    Because if the authorities cannot and will not intervene, and the war will intensify, then others will intervene (already intervene). And Ukraine will not be better off.
    1. +2
      20 February 2014 19: 35
      Quote: Heavy
      , you need to start at least with Berkut - let him already work as he knows how, and not how he is forced (only there is no will).

      I had a question, for sure there is a law on the police there. What should an employee do in case of an attack on him? Generals of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the first line of the Golden Eagle and the problem will be solved once or twice.
  15. +1
    20 February 2014 18: 51
    "... Washington deliberately makes its unjustified aggressive geopolitical ambitions in Ukraine, the entire population of the country, civil peace and harmony in Ukrainian society ... "

    Why then "not justified by anything"? Very justified - from their point of view.
    A shattered, flaming and self-destructing Ukraine is a direct blow to the groin of Russia, the only obstacle to their path to world domination!
  16. ed65b
    +2
    20 February 2014 18: 55
    Here's how to work, and we all chew snot. Eastern regions generally engage in all calls only all call. And Americans openly speak and do. Well done. Learn Russia and then the last will shine.
    1. +1
      20 February 2014 20: 45
      Well, now stop the Olympics? laughing Not yet time.
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    3. 0
      21 February 2014 00: 29
      look up .. The poop is already hanging on the cigar
  17. +1
    20 February 2014 18: 58
    If the guides still hold out for three months, then the bandits will go into the green. And they will appear anywhere, it is clear to anyone. And I’m not calling on Yanukovych to stop this ...
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    1. +7
      20 February 2014 19: 38
      good Ayayay, if not democratically, the Cossacks brought up these "women who provide intimate services for money". The FSIN could not, and they easily. Can such a measure of punishment be introduced for such? It is a pity there were no Cossacks in the Temple! Russia needs to show 24 footage! The people will applaud standing up. By the way, in Belarus "Femen" was taken to the forest in winter, stripped, doused with brilliant green and thrown. They weren't seen there anymore ... (I mean, they didn't come anymore, as they say during the shooting, not a single animal was hurt)
      1. Alex 241
        +6
        20 February 2014 19: 48
        .................................................. .........
        1. 0
          21 February 2014 08: 53
          Femen, guns - the essence of education of the same order, the main purpose of such feces is to accustom people to the form of filth on the screen and street of their city, so that this does not cause rejection, indignation, etc. The processing of the youth’s consciousness is in full swing, and therefore it’s fully understood, but the braking of this problem in the state. Someone needs this apparently. I was glad that they started to beat them, the snacks were also marked not bad. Well done.
    2. +7
      20 February 2014 19: 40
      Properly Cossack peppercorn in the eye ... keep it up! These mandavoshka everything is not there, little served ....
    3. +2
      20 February 2014 19: 45
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Well done Cossacks! and the cameras were not scared "

      why are these "fighters against the regime" not eager to suffer physically for their "beliefs"? after all, from what is happening in the country in his soul should be more painful than on the ass wassat
    4. +3
      20 February 2014 19: 49
      What fools they are !!! It is Fools! They didn’t learn anything, they didn’t understand anything. Have gone! They escaped from the torture chambers of the "bloody gebny", so no, they rushed back, most likely the Westerners made them promising "victims of democracy", they will certainly be beaten, may be crippled! That will squeal! And they will tell us how brave they are, they were not afraid, they went to carry their "truth", and they, and they ... were beaten! oh oh byada, what a ... How would I like that all these lackeys left ............deleted by moderator Apollo from my country
      1. +2
        20 February 2014 19: 56
        Quote: Navy7981
        What fools they are !!! It is Fools! They didn’t learn anything, they didn’t understand anything. Have gone! They escaped from the torture chambers of the "bloody gebny", so no, they rushed back, most likely the Westerners made them promising "victims of democracy", they will certainly be beaten, may be crippled! That will squeal! And they will tell us how brave they are, they were not afraid, they went to carry their "truth", and they, and they ... were beaten! oh oh byada, then what ... I would like all these lackeys to leave for x ... from my country

        Just the same, they are not a damn fool and they know exactly what and why they are doing. They are just scum, which must be given in a circle to the strict male colony, let them jump with repeat offenders there.
    5. +4
      20 February 2014 19: 54
      These shrieks will not subside in any way ... What kind of scum you need to be in order to PR like that. It was necessary to deport them, it would be cleaner in the country.
      Cossacks well done. I would say that they still felt sorry for them, I would have whipped so that for a month they could not sit on the ass.
      1. 0
        21 February 2014 00: 34
        Roman whip.
    6. +3
      20 February 2014 19: 56
      Straight soul sings!
    7. -2
      20 February 2014 21: 01
      Yes you do not get fooled by this bullshit. The movie is staged.
      1. 0
        20 February 2014 22: 10
        Evidence in the studio!
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      1. 0
        20 February 2014 23: 15
        +100500 Also pleased
  19. +12
    20 February 2014 19: 21
    Glory to the Russian Cossacks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. 0
      20 February 2014 21: 04
      And what about that the Cossacks themselves said. But nothing. The mummers were there. This is a pure provocation with hired actors. Watch the video carefully.
      1. 0
        20 February 2014 22: 16
        Well, let the mummers of their whips fuck chili, what difference does that make? Or are the "rabid moisture ***" not real? "They say that the tsar is not real! (From the movie" Ivan Vasilyevich changes his profession ") wassat
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    3. main
      0
      21 February 2014 01: 08
      Ah, well done Cossacks. It’s strange if I rode like that on the street, where would I be dragged to the fool or the police before? I think that all the same to the fool.
  20. 0
    20 February 2014 19: 48
    The article is a fat plus. Concisely, simply and clearly, I agree to 100%, I myself thought the same.
    The only question is, how interested is Gayrope (read "Germany") in a real war in Ukraine?
  21. 0
    20 February 2014 19: 49
    Doesn't it remind anyone?
    1. +1
      20 February 2014 19: 56
      Quote: Trofimov Andrey
      Doesn't it remind anyone?

      Yes.
      Reminds Goebels, but what?
      1. +1
        20 February 2014 20: 07
        And I Yatsenyuk
      2. +2
        20 February 2014 20: 32
        Quote: ATATA
        Reminds Goebels, but what?


        or Himmler? bully
        1. +1
          20 February 2014 20: 35
          Quote: Vasek
          or Himmler?
          Or yes. laughing
      3. +1
        20 February 2014 21: 05
        Quote: ATATA
        Quote: Trofimov Andrey
        Doesn't it remind anyone?

        Yes.
        Reminds Goebels, but what?

        Teach the story is Heinrich Himler, the head of the SS.
        1. 0
          20 February 2014 21: 48
          Wrong, I apologize
    2. +1
      20 February 2014 21: 16
      Purely ev - gay in a bread position. laughing So what?
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    4. 0
      21 February 2014 00: 37
      The main object of work for Stirlitz. Reichsfuhrer SS Heinrich Himmler.
  22. +5
    20 February 2014 19: 52
    Quote: MIKHAN

    Maybe not quite in the subject, and yet .. Remember the Ukrainian movement Femen "Ukrainian boobs" world fame in the media was and "our" hoes from "pusik" are also "stars" ... Everything started with this in Ukraine .. Here only they understood us from where the ears grow and so they do (Well done, the Cossacks! and the cameras were not scared "And now they make heroes out of maydanut ...


    Normally flew hens. laughing According to the rules of the genre - we are waiting for the main chorus of crowing overseas cocks winked
    1. Vl690006
      +1
      20 February 2014 20: 42
      Well done Cossacks! But in the background it’s clear that there is an MB-marine tugboat behind the coast guard boat. And there you can see the sailor. I would play the General Ship Fire Alarm at the place of the captain, turn on the fire pump and give 6 kg per barrel and pour a piece of fire. Most pleased and get the hell out of it. I conducted training sessions and don’t go to hell near the training site. Captain of the ship.
  23. +4
    20 February 2014 19: 52
    One person! Didn’t Grandfather go to Dayland to the grave?
    1. +1
      20 February 2014 20: 13
      Quote: Trofimov Andrey
      One person! Didn’t Grandfather go to Dayland to the grave?

      Typical Ashkenazi, they are all like twin brothers.
      1. +1
        20 February 2014 20: 36
        Himmler is very similar
    2. +4
      20 February 2014 21: 31
      So what?
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/846/wria427.jpg
      1. 0
        20 February 2014 21: 49
        Identical to 100%
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    4. +5
      20 February 2014 23: 17
      Here to add a cap and that's all - a masterpiece laughing
  24. +4
    20 February 2014 19: 53
    Quote: Nikolski1973
    Glory to the Russian Cossacks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    As we were not hammered into our heads (during the times of the USSR) that the Cossacks are enemies .. and yet I remember reading Sholokhov (in my youth) I was very impressed and respected the lifestyle of the Cossack villages and the movement in general .. How is Russia missing now! (there, from the diapers of the patriots, they were brought up the oaths and military affairs) .. It’s been brought up from generation to generation for hundreds of years .. and the borders of the Russian Empire were reliably covered and mobile combat hundreds were only ordered to be transferred anywhere in Russia .. Destroyed as class enemies now here we are reaping the benefits .. Well oh well sigh .. Russia is always recovering and becoming even more powerful .. It's just that the truth is with us!
    1. 0
      21 February 2014 00: 40
      Glory to the Russian Cossacks !!!
  25. +7
    20 February 2014 20: 21
    Russia can’t get into the Ukrainian conflict yet, they will blame all sins at once.
    Let the raguli take power (they all will collapse unambiguously), and in a year, or maybe earlier (they will cut each other), then it will be visible.

    Golden eagle and parts of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in eastern and southern Ukraine, but Yanukovych must be removed in any way (they hate him there).
    1. +1
      20 February 2014 23: 04
      If the Americans clutch their teeth, they will not let them go ...
      Yanukovych was blown away everything against him, Golden Eagle and the Ministry of Internal Affairs will make extreme,
      if the Southeast has enough courage to separate, then we’ll lose not all of Ukraine,
      but only the one who really hates us k.a.ts.a.p.s.k.i.kh m.a.s.k.a.l.e.
      I think this trinity will be very surprised that not their parties will receive the majority of votes,
      in the next election, and it will be, oops, the right sector ... Everyone has arrived.
  26. zmey_gadukin
    +1
    20 February 2014 20: 30
    already 76 corpses
    went to work "alpha" SBU (judging by the video)
    !!!Berkut detained among the protesters an American citizen, an employee of the International Police Association, a non-profit organization controlled by the US regime. Through it, the United States and other NATO countries are recruiting military personnel, police and other representatives of law enforcement agencies.
  27. +1
    20 February 2014 20: 40
    Ay-ya-yay !!! if not tolerant, not correct, and - most importantly - not enough !!!
    So, I think, in the Cossack lands, they will no longer risk waving their legs in yellow tights. And the "retinue" flew in ... I remember in the Temple the "retinue" behaved wherever as "heroic".
  28. +2
    20 February 2014 20: 55
    Damned American nation. Burn in hell. You must answer Russia, respond rudely, not diplomatically, and with threats. You can’t wait and endure more. Bandera leaders, headed by the Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, you must just shoot down the belligerent. Lviv, Western leaders also , without them it will be easier to cope with the rest of the Nazis
  29. +3
    20 February 2014 20: 56
    And why, in fact, Russia is afraid that they will pour mud over it.
    We have our own traditions, our own methods of education.
    Few Cossacks in the ass whipped these fools ... Apparently, because of the cameras.
    In Ukraine:
    I definitely give Russian politicians a "two" for "Contemporary geopolitical influence and position of Russia."
  30. +3
    20 February 2014 21: 01
    Well, at least they were allowed to use the trunks ... All the same, the president has a slightly rag ... Or he is afraid that the army will be against him ... And the little piece of cake is whipped preludeously in the square! Vivat Cossacks!
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  33. Vl690006
    0
    20 February 2014 22: 06
    It is necessary to send the Chechen riot police and then the Maidan will clean up themselves and clean up everything for themselves, Then it will be: - Who did not hide, - We are not to blame.
  34. 0
    20 February 2014 22: 19
    Well, Christopher! Well, Columbus! I managed to open enta America! Oh, what the hell! The USA in its current form is a thoroughly frostbitten crap! They obviously don’t know our great topic on the account of the Pit OTHER! Well Well! We'll see!
  35. Criowoolf
    +1
    20 February 2014 22: 20
    The fact is that from any development of the situation, Ukraine does not shine any European Union :) I consider the accession of the southeast and Crimea to Russia as one of the development options, which will give an official right to send troops to protect the territories. I won’t end in good.
  36. 0
    20 February 2014 22: 38
    The whole point of what is happening in Ukraine with the song of the good old Aria
  37. 0
    20 February 2014 22: 56
    Russia is sliding into the abyss called the "new world order" led by the United States, it was put on this path by traitors Yeltsin, Gaidar and company. All post-Soviet countries are heading there, and they do not need Russia to reach their cherished goal, they can do This is independently. Putin is trying to keep Russia from sliding, but he is not trying to deviate from this path. If Russia offered its own, more progressive path of development, then many countries would join it, as once the USSR.
  38. +4
    20 February 2014 23: 00
    Quote: Criowoolf
    The fact is that from any development of the situation, Ukraine does not shine any European Union :)


    That is why Russia in no case should not fuss (moreover, now both the European Union and the states want to drag you into our showdowns). Then all the dogs will be hanged on you. We need to once again jump onto the rake ourselves, see how already inveterate banderogas will manage.

    And when we glorify Natsik with the glories “bachil eyes, sho buyals” (this insight will come quickly), then it’s possible to help.

    And now, both west and east are against the convict. He really got the whole of Ukraine. And to support Yanukovych Russia is to discredit itself. And he is not a friend of Russia.
    1. +1
      20 February 2014 23: 12
      Quote: chenia

      That is why Russia in no case should not fuss (moreover, now both the European Union and the states want to drag you into our showdowns). Then all the dogs will be hanged on you. We need to once again jump onto the rake ourselves, see how already inveterate banderogas will manage.

      And when we glorify Natsik with the glories “bachil eyes, sho buyals” (this insight will come quickly), then it’s possible to help.

      And now, both west and east are against the convict. He really got the whole of Ukraine. And to support Yanukovych Russia is to discredit itself. And he is not a friend of Russia.

      Think correctly. (+ 1)
      Ukraine is a sovereign state and now it’s rude to interfere with Russia in its internal affairs, it means to become like the same mattresses. And if the Russian troops begin to wet the Ukrainians, even traitors, it will only push the Ukrainian people away from the Russian. Those. get a complete ass, which is sobsna and the devils want striped.

      I am sure that in Ukraine there are enough sober-minded people who will make the right and unambiguous choice. And if you ask yourself, then of course we will help. But first, you yourself need to organize yourself a little better, publicly declare your position and demonstrate this position by decisive actions to preserve the sovereignty and integrity of your state. All sorts of Yanukovych and Bandera come and go, but Ukraine remains.
      1. 0
        20 February 2014 23: 27
        Late (((I'm afraid that the train left and Ukraine left it
        1. 0
          21 February 2014 00: 14
          Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
          Late (((I'm afraid that the train left and Ukraine left it

          Where? Where can she go? Geyvropu? Do not make laugh, and so it is not funny.

          Another question is that now it will take a long time to resolve and many innocent people will suffer. The East and the Crimea will fall in love with self-determination as soon as the Yanuko slindit, and this will be a signal that Russia would take an active and direct intervention. A request from the working people of Ukraine, fraternal Russia, will be organized without problems.

          The Americans need the Slavs to interlock with each other. So, it is necessary to minimize such a situation and its consequences, both in terms of victims and in terms of the political image of Russia.

          ZY
          Hike, juvenile "on (c) riots" fiercely minus. I suppose they are eager to fight and are ready to bombard the maydanutykh with almost atomic bombs.
          Interestingly, these minus signers will go to Kiev or Lviv, under bullets? I doubt it ...
          1. hell hell
            0
            21 February 2014 06: 11
            Why ZY? Previously educated people always in such cases put (lat. Post scriptum - “after written”) - an appendix to the finished and signed letter, usually indicated by the Latin abbreviation “PS”.
            clear, this is super laziness.
      2. hell hell
        0
        21 February 2014 06: 03
        Yes Yes Yes ... in any case, do not climb, it will resolve itself. And no help Send except priests with icons, let them give them to special forces instead of the Lord’s weapon, do the word MIRACLES!
  39. +4
    20 February 2014 23: 37
    Maybe I’ll speak out rudely, but I’m sorry for Berkut. There, the Vostok battalion needs to be introduced and then all the radicals in the field get cancer with hoes. mixture. For whom the war is death and to whom the mother is dear. ALL MONEY IS GUILTY !!! am
    1. hell hell
      0
      21 February 2014 06: 23
      Ne Nada Bercut Battalion! Nada tanks like in China on Tiananmen Square! And all, is it bad that the Chinese have lived since then?
  40. +1
    21 February 2014 00: 11
    Namoy look tranche of money Ukraine from Russia should be. Personally, I would redirect this money to the development of Crimea, Kharkov (Eastern Ukraine). Russia must bring peace and development where it can get a return. No need to try to solve someone else's showdown. The Ukrainian people themselves must decide how they want to live.
    1. 0
      21 February 2014 00: 19
      Namoy look tranche of money Ukraine from Russia should be

      He will be, sweetheart.
      But I’m already afraid in the form of humanitarian aid to combat the consequences of the disaster. Those. not earlier than in the areas we need, we or the Ukrainians will not establish tight control over the situation and until the election of a new president, with the necessary outcome. Well, or if the necessary areas can be de jure and de facto included in the Russian Federation, which so far seems dubious.
    2. 0
      21 February 2014 00: 28
      Quote: komel
      Namoy look tranche of money Ukraine from Russia should be. Personally, I would redirect this money to the development of Crimea, Kharkov (Eastern Ukraine). Russia must bring peace and development where it can get a return. No need to try to solve someone else's showdown. The Ukrainian people themselves must decide how they want to live.

      That's the mistake, since Soviet times, money has been invested in the eastern industrial region, and Western Ukraine? Remember the brigades of zapadentsev on collective farms? Weeds harvested, after the collapse of the Union, the same brigades at construction sites, then rushed to Europe, a low standard of living is fertile ground for nationalism, so think first
  41. 0
    21 February 2014 00: 28
    Sorry for the Ukrainian people, that part of it that wants to work in the world. Ukrainian propaganda promised a heavenly life in Europe, away from the "eternally drunken ones" and it is not surprising that many believed in this possibility. And the price for this lie would be hundreds, if not thousands of human lives. Plus (assuming that Yanukovych is already a political corpse) the disintegration of Ukraine is very, very likely.
  42. +2
    21 February 2014 00: 36
    Quote: komel
    but I’m already afraid in the form of humanitarian aid,


    You do not need help, place better orders for Motor Sich, Yuzhmash, Nikolaev shipyards, etc. Load the work East and South of Ukraine (Russia's support will triple).

    And boost your economy and until it's too late for 37 corrupt officials (the corruption factor strongly repels Russia).

    Then we, zapadentsev, eyes will burst with envy. That's what can make stupidly stubborn Galicians love Russia.
  43. RND
    0
    21 February 2014 00: 42
    Quote: Vasek
    "... Ukrainian law enforcement officers issued military weapons - Interior Minister
    publication time: 18: 12
    last updated: 18:12 ... "

    Finally!
    It was necessary to wait for the police to shoot on the streets byOld ?!

    "... As Medvedev explained, the Kremlin wants the Ukrainian authorities" not to wipe their feet like a rag "..."
    (And Dimon - with teeth! wassat )

    With plug-ins.
    Who is the dentist?
  44. 0
    21 February 2014 00: 53
    Quote: andrei332809
    Quote: Vasyan1971
    Go to the side of evil! We have cookies!

    a whole basket? and a barrel of jam? wink

    fat must be lured
  45. +2
    21 February 2014 00: 59
    Quote: igor67
    and western Ukraine? Remember the brigades of zapadentsev on collective farms?


    Well, you are stupid. Lviv is one of the centers of electronics and precision engineering (for example, let’s say the Electron plant, which at one time produced a third of the Union’s color TV sets, was a pygmy in front of the Lenin NPO - an almost pure defense industry.)
    But the lands are poor, and the collective farmers really labored in Greater Ukraine (on chernozems).

    All cities of Western Ukraine were packed with high-tech industries. And everything was destroyed during the fallow hours. That is why nastolgia for the Union of many gnaws even now, even super-Svidomitov (for some reason, few people know about this).
    1. 0
      21 February 2014 01: 51
      Quote: chenia
      Quote: igor67
      and western Ukraine? Remember the brigades of zapadentsev on collective farms?


      Well, you are stupid. Lviv is one of the centers of electronics and precision engineering (for example, let’s say the Electron plant, which at one time produced a third of the Union’s color TV sets, was a pygmy in front of the Lenin NPO - an almost pure defense industry.)
      But the lands are poor, and the collective farmers really labored in Greater Ukraine (on chernozems).
      <...>

      +1
      Normally, money was pumped there. My parents worked as economists at VNIITI Instrument Making. This is such an institution that controlled technological standards, namely the costs of expensive raw materials. From platinum to alcohol.)))
      In Lviv and other western ones, they often went on business trips (60-80 of the year). But the fact that there almost everywhere and at all times treated Russians badly, especially from Moscow, is a fact. The same Balts and Chechens were much friendlier. It so happened that the Zapadents always wanted to be in Poland and considered themselves part of Poland.
    2. 0
      21 February 2014 02: 33
      Quote: chenia
      Quote: igor67
      and western Ukraine? Remember the brigades of zapadentsev on collective farms?


      Well, you are stupid. Lviv is one of the centers of electronics and precision engineering (for example, let’s say the Electron plant, which at one time produced a third of the Union’s color TV sets, was a pygmy in front of the Lenin NPO - an almost pure defense industry.)
      But the lands are poor, and the collective farmers really labored in Greater Ukraine (on chernozems).

      All cities of Western Ukraine were packed with high-tech industries. And everything was destroyed during the fallow hours. That is why nastolgia for the Union of many gnaws even now, even super-Svidomitov (for some reason, few people know about this).

      Lviv is not the whole of Western Ukraine, but what about small cities such as Rogatin? In Lviv, buses were also produced, MIG repair, mopeds, but this is one city, and district cities, why no one remembers them?
  46. +1
    21 February 2014 02: 22
    Quote: Al_lexx
    It so happened that the Zapadents always wanted to be in Poland and considered themselves part of Poland.


    Are you serious, but they didn’t ask for Kenya (would there be a higher probability, if only anyone would not be Poles)?
    Lviv was almost a Russian-speaking city. And the rest of the city, too. Nationalism was at the level of jokes.
    1. -2
      21 February 2014 03: 15
      Unfortunately you know little of the story. Western regions almost never entered the Russian Empire. When they were joined by Stalin, the population met the Soviet regime relatively well, but the repressions sharply expanded its attitude towards socialism in principle. Western Ukraine met Gitlra with bread and salt, 2 SS divisions Nakhtigal (nightingales) and Galichina (burning Khatyn) were formed. After the Germans left, a very extensive and well-conspired agent network remained with which the KGB ceased to fight in the fifties, which allowed the disadvantages to legalize and, during the collapse of the USSR, lead their policy to break relations with Russia. Now the western regions live off tourism and customs, industry and work there is practically no where the presence of such a large protest phenomenon.
  47. Arh
    0
    21 February 2014 02: 24
    USA GRASY, UKRAINIANS UNITE WITH RUSSIA! ! !
  48. +2
    21 February 2014 03: 07
    In fact, the State Department is wiping its feet on the Kremlin and still mock. Until the Kremlin begins to actively defend its interests on the world stage, the country will suffer humiliation and be threatened by a civil war.
  49. 0
    21 February 2014 03: 35
    Where Humpback, let him talk about pluralism and consensus ... Let him see what his "friends" are doing almost in Russia. This is all primarily on his conscience. And also as Yanukovych and yours and ours tried everything!
  50. 0
    21 February 2014 03: 45
    Quote: Uncle
    The situation is difficult, but when the Olympics end, Vladimir Vladimirovich’s hands will be untied. I hope he takes steps to restore order in Ukraine. Not by populist methods, but imperceptibly, in secret, most likely by the hands of Americans. No wonder the US press is full of caricatures of Putin and Obama, where Obama appears as a runaway black man with a bundle on a stick, and Putin as a tank driver.

    Dreaming ...
    I would be happy if I saw this ...
    In fact, VV in this case also lost the moment of impact on evil spirits. Perhaps due to the Olympics. And if so, then be it wrong, ... Ukraine is more important.

    But when everyone oversleeps, sober up, wash off and see how much is broken ... they won’t think enough.
    I can’t imagine why Ukrainians need elections. A normal person in this situation will not climb into the presidency.
  51. 0
    21 February 2014 03: 59
    Quote: BarrCode
    Here to add a cap and that's all - a masterpiece laughing

    Gorgeous allegory - Yatsenyuk at the tits...
  52. 0
    21 February 2014 04: 08
    Quote: MIKHAN

    How was it not drummed into our heads (during the Soviet era) that the Cossacks were enemies... and yet I remember reading Sholokhov (in my youth) I was very impressed and respected the lifestyle of the Cossack villages and the movement in general...

    So Sholokhov is a great SOVIET writer.
    It seemed to me that in the 1960-1990s in the USSR the Cossacks were glorified.
    The film "Kuban Cossacks" alone is worth it. - Super hit of the USSR!
  53. 0
    21 February 2014 04: 21
    I can’t sleep, here he is the bestial grin of democracy, these are the rights of “Human” and Mazepovich betrayed his people and the people of Russia, the second Gorbach. This almost happened to us. All the authorities are pushing the people towards this.
  54. hell hell
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    21 February 2014 08: 10
    perhaps not entirely on topic. Personally, I was annoyed by Putin, as it seemed to me, by his inactivity in the social sphere. But after this video.........http://youtu.be/Aux9RRc2enQ, look how he takes the situation out of a state of real rebellion.
    but the problem is 45 million! And the devoured diribaski and K decided to take away the last things from the people. , WE NEED MORE HANGINGS!!!!!
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    21 February 2014 11: 10
    Quote: It is known who
    Unfortunately, you know little history. The western regions were almost never part of the Russian Empire.


    Dear, I was born here and after demobilization I have lived for more than 20 years. And on his mother’s side he’s a Galician. In general, I know all the subtleties and Galicia was never part of the Republic of Ingushetia (Ekaterina’s mistake, I should have supported the Haidamaks).

    Quote: igor67
    Lviv is not all of Western Ukraine, but what about small towns like Rohatyn?


    I won’t say anything about Rohatyn, but Stryi, Borislav, Drohobych (in my opinion, this is generally one of the most industrial cities of the Union per capita), Nikolaev (Dniester). And the NGO I indicated had 15 branches in all cities of Western Ukraine and Transcarpathia. And all the cities were mostly Russian-speaking, well, drunkenly bawling Ukrainian songs, nothing more.

    And basically there was no negative attitude towards Russians. Even now (yes, there is mostly negative talk about Russia), but a specific person (Russian) does not feel pressure. They consider me m.o.s.k.a.l.e.m, I communicate in everyday language in an easy way, but I discuss a serious topic in Russian and I see that I am forcing my interlocutor to switch to Russian.

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