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The first loss of armored vehicles on the Maidan

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Opened an account for the loss of armored vehicles in the confrontation on the Maidan. BTR-80 internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine burned down by insurgents.


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  1. tomket
    tomket 19 February 2014 09: 44
    +21
    And with the crew what ??????
    1. Dmitriy69
      Dmitriy69 19 February 2014 09: 47
      +77
      The couple is already defeated, how much you can babysit with them!
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 19 February 2014 10: 05
        -35%
        Quote: Dmitriy69
        The couple is already defeated, how much you can babysit with them!

        how bukhoy (Yeltsin) solved a similar question in Moscow in October 93 (((
        at night they drove an armored personnel carrier, snipers on all adjacent buildings, about 22 hours fire was opened ((((
        was killed, hundreds of protesters ((((
        and in the morning the tanks completed the case (direct fire at the government’s house (((
        and special forces "Alpha", it was all over in a day ((((

        defeated the power of corrupt officials and enemies of the Russian people ((((
        1. riding
          riding 19 February 2014 10: 30
          +48
          And the world community did not threaten Yeltsin with reprisal.
          1. The comment was deleted.
          2. alexng
            alexng 19 February 2014 10: 55
            +37
            Duc. for the Ukrainian leadership, reprisal will just happen if they lose this fight.
            So it’s in the interests of today's authorities to disperse this farce of any value, and not save your carrots.
            1. Rus2012
              Rus2012 19 February 2014 11: 12
              +12
              Quote: alexneg
              Duc. for the Ukrainian leadership, reprisal will just happen if they lose this fight.
              So it’s in the interests of today's authorities to disperse this farce of any value, and not save your carrots.

              ... alas, to realize this you need at least imperial thinking, at worst, state!
              Since there is no both, it will turn out according to the PMC: "they wanted the best ..."
              And to the people - to drink a bitter cup in full ...: (((
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 11: 18
                +19
                Quote: Rus2012
                alas, in order to realize this, at least imperial thinking is necessary, not a bad end-state!

                m do not have accounts and real estate in the west
              2. predator.3
                predator.3 19 February 2014 15: 00
                +30
                Remember the events in Minsk after the presidential election in 2010, on the evening of December 19, tens of thousands of voters came out to the center of Minsk, responding to the call of presidential candidates from the opposition, who disagree with the official election results. At first, people gathered on October Square, and then along Independence Avenue they moved to the Government House, in the building of which the Central Election Commission is located.

                The police allowed the demonstrators to freely reach Independence Square and begin holding a rally. After about an hour, a group of strangers began breaking glass at the door of the Government House, after which police and special services dispersed the protesters with force. Later, Alexander Lukashenko repeatedly stated that he personally directed the actions of the security forces that evening. That's who you need to take an example from Yanukovich!
                1. Motors1991
                  Motors1991 19 February 2014 16: 08
                  +13
                  Unlike Lukashenko, Yanukovych was just a small mongrel from the gateway, so he remained. His lot was to take off his hat from passive passers-by and watch from drunken miners. Blood spilled, now you can’t wash it off, the conflict will increase with all the ensuing consequences. breeds only hatred.
            2. Nevsky_ZU
              Nevsky_ZU 19 February 2014 11: 24
              -12%
              Lviv Mayor urged security officials to side with the people

              Lviv city mayor Andrei Sadovyi called the events in Ukraine a humanitarian catastrophe, which led to power that humiliated human dignity and grossly violated the rights of Ukrainians.

              He wrote about this on his Facebook page, informs Censor.

              "This is a humanitarian catastrophe. And it was brought about by the authorities, which humiliated human honor and grossly violated the rights of Ukrainians. People die by violent death, thousands of wounded."

              Separately, he appealed to the security forces with a call to go over to the side of the protesters.

              "Separately, I appeal to the security forces in Lviv. Go out and direct your weapons to protect people - your relatives, neighbors, friends. Realize that the least aggression on your part towards people will be many times stronger in response. It will be impossible to stop this," - noted Andrey Sadovy.

              In addition, he asked the citizens to refrain from lynching.

              "The hospitals are ready, we expect hundreds of wounded. Schools will be open tomorrow. I recommend that parents accompany their children to and from school," Sadovy added.
              1. Rus2012
                Rus2012 19 February 2014 12: 06
                +16
                Quote: Nevsky_ZU
                humanitarian disaster, which led to power

                ... what familiar words, don't you find?
                What will follow?
                Pralno- "Unmanned zones" and "humanitarian bombing" by democratic planes of true "doves of peace" ...
              2. ArhipenkoAndrey
                ArhipenkoAndrey 19 February 2014 12: 52
                +11
                But the scenario is one in the banana republic, in the Middle East, in Ukraine, and the Western people, whom the city chairman has in mind, are the same as in 1941, or rather their worthy heirs, to destroy Ukraine and its dissent by all means take off the people again, and yet the bastard knows that soon the Nazis and Bandera will take up arms.
              3. varov14
                varov14 19 February 2014 19: 39
                +1
                Our siloviki science, will continue to flirt with thugs, the same fate awaits. And everything is steeper for us - the national-confessional issue is based on a wild stratification by income. Secret wishing to poke a pitchfork in the side, for their own reasons, is not enough.
              4. Horst78
                Horst78 20 February 2014 04: 00
                +1
                And for what we minus? I asked Nevsky to report the news, and you minus am
                Thanks Nevsky good keep reporting.
            3. chunga-changa
              chunga-changa 19 February 2014 12: 41
              +1
              Violence, violence, strife. It is one thing when people cheat there, and it’s quite another when they take away their back-breaking labor. They all these revolutions to the bulb, if only they did not take money abroad and allowed to retire to a calm country. Vaughn labeled calmly and securely smokes the sky in Germany and does not blow in the mustache. Yanyk hopes to live the same way.
              1. Realist58
                Realist58 19 February 2014 22: 32
                0
                He has one problem in this regard ... LOCATION where to live)))
            4. Tersky
              Tersky 19 February 2014 16: 45
              +3
              Quote: alexneg
              So in the interests of today's authorities to disperse this booth any valuable, and not save your carrot
              Everything is exactly the opposite - nobody dismissed the Maidan or dispersed it, but only blocked it. And it continues to block until now, in fact, without taking any active action. And only people who are very far from reality may think that this is due to the persistence of the "defenders" of the Maidan or the supply of bottles with the "Molotov cocktail". If desired, the area is cleared of all those present in no more than an hour. It's up to Janek ...
            5. alexey garbuz
              alexey garbuz 19 February 2014 23: 43
              0
              Then the carrot will lose its green tops.
          3. Nevsky_ZU
            Nevsky_ZU 19 February 2014 11: 23
            +18
            15 buses of aunts are being transported from Odessa to Kiev (PHOTOS)

            Yesterday evening, large passenger buses were located on Gagarin Street, not far from the administrative building No. XXUMX of the Odessa Regional State Administration.

            Men of sporty appearance sit in the buses, almost no one wants to communicate with journalists.

            Some people laugh and say, for example, that "they are going to rest in the Carpathians", "to visit friends". Some have helmets in their hands, bats and sticks were also loaded onto buses.

            One of them, who introduced himself as Viktor Oleinik, the head of the Union of Troops of Loyal Black Sea Cossacks, said that he had organized "2 branches of his Cossacks" to "restore order in Kiev."

            http://www.depo.ua/ru/vlast-i-socium/bezopasnost-zhizni/iz-odessy-v-kiev-vezut-1
            5-avtobusov-titushek-foto.htm
            1. demon184
              demon184 19 February 2014 13: 40
              +8
              Since the authorities cannot restore order, we must take it ourselves, and after the Nazis are sorted out, Yanukovych must kick in the ass.
              1. Algor73
                Algor73 19 February 2014 19: 50
                +2
                Take yourself, how's that? Destroy all state institutions (administrations, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the prosecutor's office, the SBU), like "everything to the ground, and then ..."? An uncontrolled process is already underway - they seize weapons (first of all, gangs, the opposition claims that it has nothing to do with them), set fire to buildings, burn documents in the offices (why ???), the offices themselves, mock officials (the chairman of the Volyn Regional State Administration handcuffed in the basement, forced to kneel in front of a crowd, write a letter of resignation, threaten to bring his family to him). And this is called taking ourselves? And is it called civilized?
          4. cosmos111
            cosmos111 19 February 2014 14: 05
            -4
            Quote: koni
            And the world community did not threaten Yeltsin with reprisal.

            the "world community" is the USA and Israel?
            China, India, Brazil, Iran, Syria ,, Egypt -threat ???
            but bukhoi (Yeltsin), the "world community" made them shoot their people ((((
            1. cosmos111
              cosmos111 19 February 2014 21: 46
              +2
              Quote: cosmos111
              the "world community" is the USA and Israel?

              here is the confirmation of my words that the USA is actively interfering in the internal conflict in Ukraine ((((
              helping both financially and intelligence .. information, both the leaders of the "opposition", so outspoken militants, Bandera (((

              intercepted SBU, telephone conversation, Nuland and the US sex, in Ukraine (((
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 February 2014 21: 56
                -7
                The Russian Foreign Ministry makes approximately the same statements - only in the opposite direction. And when needed, it supports the other side.

                You take it so seriously - it's ridiculous
              2. smersh70
                smersh70 19 February 2014 21: 59
                -1
                Quote: cosmos111
                intercepted SBU, telephone conversation, Nuland and the US sex, in Ukraine (
                what is all the same cool English unlike German bully melodious))))
                secondly, I liked how Nuland's "faking" was translated - "teach a lesson" bully
                thirdly, I thought that the Americans have a secure communication channel)) and they listened to them so best)) well done colleagues from the SBU
          5. sens99.ru
            sens99.ru 19 February 2014 14: 49
            +4
            And the world community did not threaten Yeltsin with reprisal.

            Because he completed the collapse, and why should the world community intervene in the collapse of a powerful enemy?
          6. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 20 February 2014 01: 10
            -1
            Quote: koni
            And the world community did not threaten Yeltsin with reprisal.

            Yanukovych is not Yeltsin, Yeltsin had a "magic wand" ...
          7. kavkaz8888
            kavkaz8888 20 February 2014 08: 05
            0
            koni Yesterday, 10:30
            "... And the world community did not threaten Yeltsin with reprisals ..."

            Why would he threaten? Borka for the "community" and tried. Compared ...
        2. domokl
          domokl 19 February 2014 12: 32
          +16
          The court’s commander ... What shoulder straps did he give? Sending a car under the bottle of gas without covering infantry and snipers is a war crime.
          Just maydanutye announced an attack on government forces ... Literally 5 minutes ago. It means fighting for an adult. Without fools have to. Can this cheeky commander chew snot? Force solution and stop all these riots.
          1. ArhipenkoAndrey
            ArhipenkoAndrey 19 February 2014 13: 00
            +3
            By and large, it would have long been necessary for him to be tried, his people are so substituted, either from illiteracy, or through stupidity or a traitor.
          2. Genry
            Genry 19 February 2014 13: 01
            +3
            Quote: domokl
            Sending a car under bottles with gasoline without covering infantry and snipers is a war crime.


            Moreover, this armored personnel carrier with GASOLINE engines (2pcs).
            And why did he even go there? Purpose?
            1. IRBIS
              IRBIS 19 February 2014 15: 09
              +4
              Quote: Genry
              Moreover, this armored personnel carrier with PETROL engines (2pcs)

              Does the Ukrainian BTR-80 have gasoline engines? It’s strange ... We have been putting diesel engines on them for thirty years now ...
            2. Corsair
              Corsair 19 February 2014 17: 07
              +2
              Quote: Genry
              Moreover, this armored personnel carrier with GASOLINE engines (2pcs).
              And why did he even go there? Purpose?


              Quote: IRBIS
              Does the Ukrainian BTR-80 have gasoline engines? It’s strange ... We have been putting diesel engines on them for thirty years now ...

              In this situation, it does not matter what engines were standing there ...
              It was necessary to see how many KMs were DISCOUNTED on the hull and MTO BTRa. The car got bogged down in the barricade, actually in the one that it was supposed to ram, they threw bottles from the farm from different directions ...
          3. Tersky
            Tersky 19 February 2014 16: 32
            +4
            Quote: domokl
            Then, in the western lands, to pick out these Bandera.

            Alexander, what is happening now in the West of Ukraine does not matter. If only because there is no need to suppress the rebellion. Oddly enough, he will calm down himself. To do this, it will only be necessary to block access to the central, southern and eastern regions, leaving the West to independently take care of ensuring the "zone of rebellious Ukraine." And after a couple of months, raising scarce reserves and handouts of the West, the people of these regions will independently begin to clean up the “Bandera” by all means available to them. hi !
        3. ArhipenkoAndrey
          ArhipenkoAndrey 19 February 2014 12: 47
          +4
          It is a pity that you are not in that armor, maybe then you would have understood that the destruction of the country is going on in a physical way and the talking shop, in this case, works for the fascists, allowing them to arm themselves, and this "peaceful" Maidan-fascist fraternity should have long been, note, not to disperse but close, there was a Maidan of Independence, there was a maidan of the fascists.
        4. DEfindER
          DEfindER 19 February 2014 13: 15
          +10
          Quote: cosmos111
          how bukhoy (Yeltsin) solved a similar question in Moscow in October 93 (((

          What do you compare the people's deputies of the RSFSR, whom he shot from the ebn tank, with those thugs on the Maidan?
          And in general, I do not understand where the airstrike on the Maidan? There are terrorists armed to the teeth. Or does the government want to let unarmed soldiers on them so that the number of people shot will be carried out by hundreds?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 04
            -13%
            Quote: DEfindER
            What do you compare the people's deputies of the RSFSR, whom he shot from the ebn tank, with those thugs on the Maidan?

            You have a strange view of the situation. There and there are deputies, there and there people
            1. DEfindER
              DEfindER 19 February 2014 15: 40
              +3
              Quote: Pimply
              You have a strange view of the situation. There and there are deputies, there and there people

              On the Maidan, the deputies who were charged with terrorism, if you know the news, watched for preparing the terrorist attack. So there is nothing strange, the KTR regime is being declared in the center of Kiev using all possible means, everyone who has not left this territory in the time provided is considered a terrorist or an accomplice of terrorists .. True, if the militants do not let people out, they will be considered hostages, and then more difficult...
              If this is not done, then the death toll will increase exponentially, because weapons they have more ..
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 42
                0
                Quote: DEfindER
                Nothing strange, the KTR regime is declared in the center of Kiev using all possible means, everyone who has not left this territory in the time provided is considered a terrorist or an accomplice of terrorists .. True, if the militants do not let people out, they will be considered hostages, but here it’s more complicated. ..

                After that, a massacre begins in the country. Bravo. Do you really think that militants are all on the Maidan? Or that the Maidan-it's just a couple of thousand Bandera?

                The fact is that your circuit works - really works - in the absence of broad support and with rudimentary resistance. Now, it's just the path to a bloody civil war. Now, not only Kiev is blazing.
                1. DEfindER
                  DEfindER 19 February 2014 19: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: Pimply
                  After that, a massacre begins in the country. Bravo. Do you really think that militants are all on the Maidan? Or that the Maidan-it's just a couple of thousand Bandera?

                  Everything was turned upside down, and if the government finally fulfills its duties and cleans the capital from these thugs (terrorists), who have already counted dozens of killings, the people will take to the streets in all cities in support of this government!
                  Moreover, people of opposition views, but in their right mind, will support the authorities in this, because any normal person has a negative attitude to this method of struggle for power, as on the Maidan ..
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 19 February 2014 20: 08
                    0
                    Quote: DEfindER
                    Moreover, people of opposition views, but in their right mind, will support the authorities in this, because any normal person has a negative attitude to this method of struggle for power ..

                    Will not support. Power in Ukraine, many now simply hate
        5. demon184
          demon184 19 February 2014 13: 36
          -2
          And snipers fired from the territory of the US Passenger
        6. pawel1961
          pawel1961 19 February 2014 21: 49
          -1
          Komos111 Debe years how old was it when it happened ...
      2. Edward
        Edward 19 February 2014 10: 05
        +20
        Well, at least just allow normal fight back. Guys are nimble there.
        And then they substitute the guys under the thugs and they do the same extreme.
        Power in Uk is tricky.
      3. RUS96
        RUS96 19 February 2014 10: 18
        +22
        It’s time for the cops to issue weapons! It’s time to tie this trash!
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 11: 19
          +7
          Quote: RUS96
          It’s time for the cops to issue weapons!

          there it’s time to transform the army
          1. pifon
            pifon 19 February 2014 14: 18
            +2
            In Ukraine there are almost a million cops, and the army - about 100 thousand. Nah.rena asks did you feed this crowd (cops)? Can't cope with the punks? "To involve the army ..." - in this country, this decision is stupidity!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 39
              +2
              Quote: pifon
              In Ukraine there are almost a million cops, and the army - about 100 thousand. Nah.rena asks did you feed this crowd (cops)? Can't cope with the punks? "To involve the army ..." - in this country, this decision is stupidity!

              What do you think, how many cops are on the side of the current government?
              1. pifon
                pifon 19 February 2014 15: 22
                +1
                "What do you think, how many cops are on the side of the current government?"
                Colleague, I think the question is rhetorical and to put it mildly strange. 1. The percentage ratio across departments is approximately the same. 2. Anyway, the army is less than 3. The army will not drive the punks - they were not taught this (if at all they taught anything!)
                4. "Every ram must carry its eggs! .."
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 26
                  +4
                  Quote: pifon
                  "What do you think, how many cops are on the side of the current government?"
                  Colleague, I think the question is rhetorical and to put it mildly strange. 1. The percentage ratio across departments is approximately the same. 2. Anyway, the army is less than 3. The army will not drive the punks - they were not taught this (if at all they taught anything!)

                  I am in terms of recruiting them not only in the east. And in some cities, they are quite actively collaborating with demonstrators / pogromists / fascists / Maidan - yes you can call them anything.
                  The fact is that cops are not homogeneous either.
                  1. pifon
                    pifon 19 February 2014 16: 52
                    +1
                    The point is that the use of the Army in this case is stupid. You agree with me?
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 17: 00
                      0
                      Quote: pifon
                      the use of the Army in this case is stupid

                      examples of history show that not so stupid
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 February 2014 17: 22
                        +1
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        examples of history show that not so stupid

                        In that situation now - stupidity
                      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 17: 25
                        +3
                        I will not argue, now one problem is the power of a person who, apparently, is a worthless leader
                      3. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 February 2014 17: 48
                        +2
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        the power of a man who seems to be a shitty leader

                        In general, this is why maidan began in many ways. And that is why he is so actively supported.
                      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 18: 04
                        0
                        another thing is scary that people who don’t get scared of blood can come to power
                    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 19: 16
                      0
                      Does anyone think that Yanuk is a good leader?
                    3. alone
                      alone 19 February 2014 21: 36
                      0
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Does anyone think that Yanuk is a good leader?


                      A good joke. Especially the fact that Yanuk is the leader.
                2. alone
                  alone 19 February 2014 21: 35
                  0
                  Quote: Pimply
                  In that situation now - stupidity


                  Eugene, I welcome! The fact is that Yanukovych, as president, seriously weakened the armed forces, overly strengthening the Ministry of Internal Affairs. The use of the army can play the opposite effect. The Ukrainian military is unhappy with Yanukovych and can easily throw him off.
                3. Pimply
                  Pimply 21 February 2014 15: 49
                  0
                  I talked about that
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 23: 01
              +1
              minus people, but in fact there are real examples in history when the army in such a situation stopped a lot of blood
  2. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 16: 16
    +1
    Quote: pifon
    Can't deal with the punks?

    to cope it is necessary that the supreme chief contractor give an order, sorry guys with rubber sticks against fittings, pistols and fuel bottles, you just tell them now that you can
    1. pifon
      pifon 19 February 2014 16: 57
      +1
      This is a no-brainer! "shit-CONTRACTING" he is - g ...
      To sprinkle all these "activists" with dust (conditionally) and not send the guys from the Ministry of Internal Affairs to maim! It's like negotiating with khachiks - until you hit them in the teeth - they think that you are weaker and more cowardly than them!
  • domokl
    domokl 19 February 2014 12: 36
    0
    It’s too late ... Half the country is already in the hands of the Maidan ... Now you need to destroy it with fire and sword, namely, destroy the Maidan and restore order in Kiev. If this is not done now, tomorrow the Rada will be under the control of the Maydauns
    1. Luzhichanin
      Luzhichanin 19 February 2014 20: 14
      -1
      Quote: domokl
      Half the country is already in the hands of the Maydan ...

      uh ... data with advanced? minus for information that does not correspond to reality. strange from the moderator to hear this sad
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 19 February 2014 20: 42
        -1
        Quote: Luzhichanin
        uh ... data with advanced? minus for information that does not correspond to reality. strange from the moderator to hear this

        Lutsk, Rivne, Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil, Volhynia
        1. Luzhichanin
          Luzhichanin 20 February 2014 16: 44
          0
          I also know how to list cities, you better give links to official statements by the authorities that they say are uncontrollable.
  • starshina78
    starshina78 19 February 2014 10: 43
    +13
    I am also surprised at the inaction of the Ukrainian authorities. This is a war, and it must be waged as it should. Once they started shooting, they must answer the same. Detonated an armored personnel carrier? So they must be crushed by tanks! Others will be scared and will not go!
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 19 February 2014 12: 09
      +1
      Quote: starshina78
      inaction of the Ukrainian authorities

      and they had historical and practical experience for this?
      "they are peaceful" and do not want to split the country.
      And the situation was rocked so that now there are no resources to fix all this.
      Nuno was pushing in the bud!
    2. DEfindER
      DEfindER 19 February 2014 15: 49
      +2
      Quote: starshina78
      Once they started shooting, they must answer the same. Detonated an armored personnel carrier? So they must be crushed by tanks!

      They already have a big arsenal there, and the APCs were obviously not burnt with a cocktail, it seems like a TOS flamethrower ..
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 51
        +1
        Quote: DEfindER
        They already have a big arsenal there, and the APCs were obviously not burnt with a cocktail, it seems like a TOS flamethrower ..

        These are firecrackers.
        BTR burned a couple of dozen Molotov cocktails
      2. cosmos111
        cosmos111 19 February 2014 17: 00
        +3
        Quote: DEfindER
        and the APCs were obviously not burnt with a cocktail, it seems like a TOC flamethrower ..

        rather, this is a homemade napalm (((
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  • gispanec
    gispanec 19 February 2014 11: 08
    +8
    Quote: Dmitriy69
    The couple is already defeated, how much you can babysit with them!

    this is a civil war .... the golden eagle needs to stand and endure, but the SBU and the local special forces must abruptly decapitate this fascist hydra in all regions ... and those who lead from beyond the hill must simply be liquidated under an accident .. .. + interrupt roads and finances .... everything will calm down quickly ... and then give the activists to the "dolls" of the same golden eagle ...
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 19 February 2014 11: 25
      +4
      In fact, the situation is stalemate.

      The opposition itself needs to escalate, otherwise the rebellion will run out. And in a peaceful struggle, Yanyk is constantly replaying them playing giveaways.
      Given this opposition needs blood, it is necessary that the people were crushed by tanks.
      Well, Golden Eagle remains to stand and substitute.
      Moreover, in fact, the initiative is handed over to the rebels.
    2. iva12936
      iva12936 19 February 2014 13: 20
      +1
      I read somewhere that in the SBU a lot of zapadentsev scored, and all the others cleaned up, if true, then there will be no sense from the SBU, so there is only one appearance.
      1. bulanash
        bulanash 19 February 2014 16: 01
        +1
        sbu - security service, not security. under Yanukosche all the remnants of the Soviet KGB were quietly poured into retirement, and "effective Donetsk managers" were imprisoned whose outlook is limited to squeezing the dough out of the population.
  • Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 19 February 2014 11: 30
    +15
    Wins the one who will have better logistics in the delivery of forces in Kiev. Monitor news, vizhk zapadentsev managed to unblock the route to Kiev ... Scribe, Eastern Ukraine get up for a mortal battle !!! Russians but throw at least informal groups !!! It is clear that it is dangerous and unnecessary to entice Russia, but there are no military leaders to have Eastern Ukraine !!!
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 19 February 2014 12: 19
      +7
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Vizhk zapadentsev managed to unlock the highway to Kiev

      Do you know the word "checkpoint"? Two tanks at the crossroads, even the DShK on the KRAZs will stop these benders for now.
      True, a fierce rifle platoon would be required to "grow into the ground here" as cover ...
      1. SSR
        SSR 19 February 2014 14: 47
        +2
        Quote: Rus2012
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Vizhk zapadentsev managed to unlock the highway to Kiev

        Do you know the word "checkpoint"? Two tanks at the crossroads, even DShK on KRAZs will stop these benders for now

        If the Ministry of Internal Affairs had at least approved the use of rubber bullets and water cannons, then the Maidan and the banderlog columns would have been dispersed, and so their harness would be hit one by one, they would be fired, and they would still keep the banderlogs with their shields and with batons, in fact, Kiev and a number of other cities were turned into favelas. Poor sitting at a computer to reason and get clever (I say to myself), but if the Ukrainian government does not dare and decides to disperse decisively, everything will be much worse in the end.
        I. Karimov probably mentally already 1150th way and dispersed the banderlog maydanutyh.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 02
          +3
          Quote: SSR
          If the Ministry of Internal Affairs had at least approved the use of rubber bullets and water cannons, then both the Maidan and the banderlog columns would be dispersed and they would be beaten one by one, they would be pulled out, but they would still be held back by banderlogs and with batons, in fact, Kiev and a number of other cities were turned into favelas

          Respected. They approved the use of water cannons and rubber from the very beginning
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 19 February 2014 12: 41
      +2
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Russians but throw at least informal groups !!!

      Do not mohai brother, everything will settle down. It’s not time yet.
    3. DEfindER
      DEfindER 19 February 2014 15: 56
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Russians but throw at least informal groups !!!

      Hold on until the end of the Olympics brother, and there help will not be long in coming ..
  • Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 19 February 2014 13: 55
    +4
    Defense Ministry confirmed sending paratroopers to Kiev
    Read more: http://www.bagnet.org/news/ukraine/234577
    1. pifon
      pifon 19 February 2014 14: 22
      +4
      But this is in vain! The Ministry of Internal Affairs has its forces in abundance !!!
  • ka5280
    ka5280 19 February 2014 17: 13
    -1
    In addition to shooting to kill, it is also necessary to exterminate the relatives of the rebels under the root. Otherwise, it will not be effective!
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 17: 24
      -1
      Quote: ka5280
      In addition to shooting to kill, it is also necessary to exterminate the relatives of the rebels under the root. Otherwise, it will not be effective!

      Well, or just shoot half the country wink
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 10: 02
    +35
    People, take a look at the video, it’s how you need to cut through and feel unpunished, what would it carry.
    1. Scandinavian
      Scandinavian 19 February 2014 10: 11
      +43
      Suspend this provocateur by the eggs on the first pillar ....
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 19 February 2014 11: 09
        +23
        Quote: Scandinavian
        People, take a look at the video, it’s how you need to cut through and feel unpunished, what would it carry.

        Well, thank God we are closer than this staffer (by the way, he speaks good Russian) and there are many, many Russians in Ukraine, but you P ... There will never be B-mattresses there! You can saliva on the Maidan as you want to spray!
        Here's how it gets to real life here and see who the boss in the house is.
        Personally, if I were "Berkut", I would have fussed in advance and would have accepted it at the first opportunity, but then there was a preventive conversation in a "friendly" manner with the use of all means of inquiry for which the guys have enough imagination! In this situation, I will understand them very much!
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 19 February 2014 12: 21
          +1
          Quote: Arberes
          to real affairs

          already reached, further only decay ...
    2. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 19 February 2014 10: 28
      +28
      Looking at this ghoul there is only one filth.
    3. sergey32
      sergey32 19 February 2014 10: 51
      +10
      Vlasovites clung to Bandera.
    4. old rocket man
      old rocket man 19 February 2014 10: 55
      +11
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      People, take a look at the video, it’s how you need to cut through and feel unpunished, what would it carry.


      And what kind of ghoul is it? By the dialect, you can see it from home-grown people, whether from teachers, or from "lawyers".
      They would give him a kick to the Berkut.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 10: 58
        +15
        Quote: Old Rocketman

        And what is this ghoul?

        Like an American, although he speaks ours. Well, a prostitute in a word.
        1. seller trucks
          seller trucks 19 February 2014 11: 17
          +21
          found like this

          Sergey Melnikoff (aka Sergey Melnikov, Sergey Melnikoff) is an amateur photographer trying to portray something “elite” from himself and his work. Known as a great inventor and swindler.

          as it turned out, an ardent Russophobe and a mentally ill person
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 12: 22
            +4
            Quote: seller trucks
            as it turned out, an ardent Russophobe and a mentally ill person

            Well it is noticeable.
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 19 February 2014 12: 54
              +5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Well it is noticeable.

              Sasha hi Especially here:
            2. seller trucks
              seller trucks 19 February 2014 13: 04
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Well it is noticeable.


              with the "creativity" of this little guy and understand what kind of eccentric he is on the "m" - http://www.gulag.ipvnews.org/ but as I understood the Hague trial is in his head only.
            3. SSR
              SSR 19 February 2014 14: 51
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: seller trucks
              as it turned out, an ardent Russophobe and a mentally ill person

              Well it is noticeable.

              Looking at how their city is destroyed there, just all the representatives of the clinic gathered, schizophrenics, psychopaths, maniacs and simply with broken brains.
          2. Tersky
            Tersky 19 February 2014 12: 43
            +3
            Quote: seller trucks
            as it turned out, an ardent Russophobe and a mentally ill person

            such on the Maidan 98% ... otherwise how else can you explain this orgy of lawlessness.
            1. seller trucks
              seller trucks 19 February 2014 13: 08
              +4
              unfortunately, ambulances do not go to mental hospitals, but to hospitals and morgues
            2. aviator65
              aviator65 19 February 2014 22: 09
              +1
              Well, here are the "real violent" pulled up. Means with "leaders" there have already been decided. And then, someone who sympathized with this lawlessness not so long ago complained that they lack real leaders. Straight on Vysotsky: "There are few real violent ones. So there are no leaders!"
    5. from punk
      from punk 19 February 2014 11: 34
      +9
      FREEDOM OF SPEECH in action. Only in his "homeland" would he rot in prison for such words
    6. avg
      avg 19 February 2014 12: 00
      +7
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      People, take a look at the video, it’s how you need to cut through and feel unpunished, what would it carry.

      Stsuka knows that they don’t shoot from that side, that's why he is so greyhound.
    7. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 19 February 2014 12: 11
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      People, take a look at the video, it’s how you need to cut through and feel unpunished, what would it carry.

      It is touched by the PERMANENT presence of the Uniates - they are also on duty, regularly, in pauses, engaged in chants.
    8. CALL.
      CALL. 19 February 2014 13: 58
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      it’s how you need to go round and feel unpunished

      Unfinished Bandera n @ scud. And speaks good Russian. Traitor.
      - "Judas also learned to wear crosses." Stanislav Jerzy Lec
    9. RUSS
      RUSS 19 February 2014 14: 28
      +1
      [quote = Alexander Romanov] People, take a look at the video, it’s how to get rid of it and feel unpunished to carry it.[/ quote
      And what kind of cake is this?
      1. from punk
        from punk 19 February 2014 19: 56
        +1
        this is the drummer from pussy riot
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    1. Xroft
      Xroft 19 February 2014 12: 13
      +6
      It burned down, now live on Russia 24 showed a charred armored personnel carrier in the golden eagle.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 19 February 2014 14: 35
        +3
        Quote: Xroft
        It burned down, now live on Russia 24 showed a charred armored personnel carrier in the golden eagle.


        Knowing that Bandera has Molotov cocktails, why did the APCs fit in? Would you like to take a fright? How many children have already died, I have respect for the Berkut fighters, for their steadfastness, patience and fidelity. Ukrainian authorities evoke feelings on the verge of hatred and anger.
  • philip
    philip 19 February 2014 12: 40
    +2
    Two wounded
  • ABV
    ABV 19 February 2014 13: 42
    +4
    alive, not big burns, but alive ...
    After this, how can you continue to search for "consensus" and try to negotiate is not clear? Of course, Yanukovych is afraid that his loot will be frozen in the west ..... But people need to be saved, they will not forgive! even Lenin said - "Delay is like death"! "both yours and ours" will not work. Trying to save your money can lead to loss of your head, although there are no more brains in it ...
  • ABV
    ABV 19 February 2014 13: 42
    0
    alive, not big burns, but alive ...
    After this, how can you continue to search for "consensus" and try to negotiate is not clear? Of course, Yanukovych is afraid that his loot will be frozen in the west ..... But people need to be saved, they will not forgive! even Lenin said - "Delay is like death"! "both yours and ours" will not work. Trying to save your money can lead to loss of your head, although there are no more brains in it ...
  • sds555
    sds555 19 February 2014 14: 36
    +2
    Maidan aerial view, the burning building of trade unions is visible
    1. sds555
      sds555 19 February 2014 18: 39
      0
      In Ukraine, worse and worse, shooting a woman killed by combat
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 19 February 2014 18: 44
        +1
        Quote: sds555
        In Ukraine, worse and worse, shooting a woman killed by combat

        While wounded, in intensive care. Someone in the building lost their nerves.

        Although maybe someone wanted to heat up the situation - I do not exclude anything
        1. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 19 February 2014 22: 10
          +1
          Pimply (1
          Shooting is not from the SBU building, but from the opposite building, so who shot?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 20 February 2014 00: 27
            0
            From the video there, it’s extremely difficult to judge anything.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 19: 24
        +5
        Quote: sds555
        fighting woman killed

        What a fool to be in order to storm the SBU ??? I would sit at home and raise my children, but no, it’s more interesting there, I’ve got it. Stupid death, but apparently this doesn’t stop anyone
        1. sds555
          sds555 19 February 2014 19: 40
          +2
          Here I agree there is nothing for women to do there, when this happens in the country
  • RUSS
    RUSS 19 February 2014 14: 37
    +3
    One of the latest news !!!!!!!!!


    © ITAR-TASS
    KIEV, February 19. / ITAR-TASS /. Acting Minister of Defense of Ukraine Pavel Lebedev gave the order to send to Kiev the 25th separate airborne brigade from Dnepropetrovsk. He said this to the correspondent of ITAR-TASS.

    “Yes, I gave such an order. To strengthen the protection of bases where military weapons are stored, ”Lebedev said. However, he refused to answer the question whether the army will be used to disperse the protesters.

    M.O. Colonel Alexander Motuzyanik, chief of the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, confirmed that units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are taking measures to strengthen the protection of weapons depots. He referred to the notice posted on the Ministry’s website about the measures taken in this regard.
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks 19 February 2014 16: 25
      +6
      Curse to the heroes!

      19.02.2014

      You are all heroes! You are heroes! Maidan leaders shout correctly. You are heroes!
      You, shot at point blank range, in the face of the guard of the Party of Regions office.
      You, who beat half to death, and then shot two fighters of the Internal Troops, yesterday’s schoolchildren.
      You that burned a person in the office of OL.
      You who beat women and robbed them.
      You, who dispossessed the cars of ordinary Kievans, set fire to apartment buildings.
      You are heroes, your mother, you are just heroes, you are the best sons of this people!

      These people are killers, and this is a curse. Nothing normal will ever be built there, normal is not built on the blood.
      And hell awaits the killers, imagine.

      posted on Anatoly Sharia's blog on UP (Ukrainian Truth)
  • vvp2412
    vvp2412 19 February 2014 15: 25
    +2
    Lying in the hospital with burns! Are alive
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 19 February 2014 16: 29
      +2
      Quote: vvp2412
      Lying in the hospital with burns! Are alive

      May God grant them a speedy recovery.
  • Corsair
    Corsair 19 February 2014 16: 52
    +1
    Quote: tomket
    And with the crew what ??????
    The information and news program "TSN" on the Ukrainian TV channel "1 + 1" broadcast information that the crew of the burnt-out armored personnel carrier had managed to get out and was in the hospital.
    Nothing was specified about their condition ...
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 19 February 2014 19: 59
      -1
      Just along the way, another question arises who is as bright as YATSENYUK in the east of Ukraine, we probably don’t know there, either.
  • igor.borov775
    igor.borov775 19 February 2014 18: 29
    +3
    Gentlemen, now I’ve listened to interesting people. These are not the notebooks that rub on TV channels. They slightly shifted the benchmark and made us look at the situation in Kiev from a different angle. Yes, the Maidan crossed the line, But the president crossed the line for a long time, and the first he deceived his voters, it’s possible to somehow survive but he and no one else started fussing with the European Union, He drove himself into a trap, he doesn’t suit anyone, But here there are very serious problems, He is well aware that his image was seriously shaken, Old Man Lukashenko is not in vain about him said, I don’t know what is going on in Kiev now, but for the first time one conviction ripens in me that he will hand over the country to Yatsenyuk, In fact, looking at him, it starts to seem like a breed of Gorbach. hard dispersal of a peaceful demonstration, everything was different, and what’s interesting is that it all fits into the script about which he was told, he’s just looking for the right moment precisely, And after all, he exactly follows this scenario, he will endlessly chatter about the negotiations, and then they say they didn’t understand me bye, looking at him, I’m tormented by one question when
  • aspirin02
    aspirin02 19 February 2014 19: 13
    +1
    The video shows what’s going to eat breathing!
  • Skiff-2
    Skiff-2 19 February 2014 20: 15
    +1
    Quote: tomket
    And with the crew what ??????

    Alive, burned but saved.
  • cosmos111
    cosmos111 19 February 2014 22: 10
    +2
    Quote: tomket
    And with the crew that

    last video BTR-80 (((
    the crew, in these frames, remained alive !!!
  • Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 19 February 2014 09: 44
    +12
    Beating, it is necessary to repeat Czechoslovakia 1968 on the Maidan ...
    1. This
      This 19 February 2014 10: 32
      +17
      Tien An Myn needed there, Czechoslovakia - too soft.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 10: 37
      +10
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Beating, it is necessary to repeat Czechoslovakia 1968 on the Maidan ...

      Nine law enforcement officers were killed in Kiev, 74 - gunshot wounds
      Nine law enforcement officers died from gunshot wounds during the riots in Kiev. 371 employees of the internal affairs bodies sought help, 349 were hospitalized.
      http://news.mail.ru/politics/17022855/
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 18: 47
      -3
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Beating, it is necessary to repeat Czechoslovakia 1968 on the Maidan ...

      Yeah. And lose Ukraine forever
  • Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 19 February 2014 09: 44
    +18
    .... there are not armored personnel carriers already needed, but "Terminators" and "Solntsepeki"! am
    1. tomket
      tomket 19 February 2014 09: 48
      +11
      yesterday, too, it was thought that the armored personnel carrier was burning, it’s not a tricky business, it willn’t maneuver heavily down the street, but still wheeled vehicles should have been sent more seriously, especially since the vehicles will work closely with the demonstrators, and those bastards with Molotov cocktails, ba and send the equipment not to be used, damn he took out a gun - shoot, otherwise they will take it away, it happened, drove it and burned it .....
      1. avg
        avg 19 February 2014 12: 13
        +6
        Quote: tomket
        here, too, yesterday I thought that burning an armored personnel carrier was not a tricky thing

        I would have fucked a couple of times from KPVT, at least in sacks, the "heroes with bottles" would have run up to Lviv.
        But you have to write only - I would have beaten, would have run up ..., but Yanukovych was cowardly.
    2. Dmitriy69
      Dmitriy69 19 February 2014 09: 48
      +18
      Enough armored personnel carrier if you do not spare ammunition
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 11: 23
        +10
        Quote: Dmitriy69
        Enough armored personnel carrier if you do not spare ammunition

        a golden eagle without armored personnel carriers is enough if they are now given the command to receive weapons and allowed to use them to defeat, they are now brutalized if allowed with their bare hands
    3. svp67
      svp67 19 February 2014 10: 44
      +12
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      there are not armored personnel carriers already needed, but "Terminators" and "Solntsepeki"
      Yes, there is no "fire" and to extinguish it you need to fire engines like this ...


      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 19 February 2014 11: 12
        +7
        engineering machine barriers IMR ((((

        or crawler fire engine GPM-54 ((((
        produced in Ukraine ((((
        1. avg
          avg 19 February 2014 12: 40
          +5
          This also does not hurt to pull the children out from behind the bags.
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 19 February 2014 12: 49
        +10
        Quote: svp67
        Yes, there is no "fire" and to extinguish it you need to fire engines like this ...

        It’s quite enough ... to burn gasoline for hell ... yes
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 27
          -5
          Quote: Tersky
          It’s quite enough ... to hell with gasoline ...

          After this, you get a bloody slaughter near by, and given the situation - unpredictable
          1. Onizuka teacher
            Onizuka teacher 19 February 2014 14: 09
            -6
            Quote: Pimply
            After this, you get a bloody slaughter near by, and given the situation - unpredictable

            Plus, local rebels will appear with serious weapons from well-wishing countries. And then worse.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 14
              -2
              Quote: Teacher Onizuka
              Plus, local rebels will appear with serious weapons from well-wishing countries. And then worse.

              In civil wars, this works on two sides. There is always compulsory foreign intervention in the direction of both government forces and rebel forces. Civil in Russia is worth remembering, it clearly manifested there.
            2. Tersky
              Tersky 19 February 2014 20: 18
              +1
              Quote: Teacher Onizuka
              Plus, local rebels will appear with serious weapons from well-wishing countries. And then worse.

              Who, who? Rebels? POS @ ANTSY is not rebels, it would be criminal @ lo and swineherd from Galicia, the rot that is booming at the moment is only worth crushing.
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          3. DEfindER
            DEfindER 19 February 2014 16: 09
            +5
            Quote: Pimply
            After this, you get a bloody slaughter near by, and given the situation - unpredictable

            On the contrary, if you keep silent you get a bloody massacre, which we have now, and if you show them the power, they will immediately run away. They are brave only when they are not touched, and as soon as the golden eagle goes on the attack, they run like rats with their tails tucked in ..
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 February 2014 16: 11
              -3
              Quote: DEfindER
              On the contrary, if you keep silent you get a bloody massacre, which we have now, and if you show them the power, they will immediately run away. They are brave only when they are not touched, and as soon as the golden eagle goes on the attack, they run like rats with their tails tucked in ..

              All the experience of recent days suggests otherwise
              1. Kars
                Kars 19 February 2014 16: 18
                +6
                Quote: Pimply
                All the experience of recent days suggests otherwise

                Well, why. I personally saw the opposite. They quickly drove them into the Maidan as soon as they decided not just to restrain them. And they drove them to Grushevsky several times, the problem is that they are not enough to capture, and do not surround.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 19 February 2014 16: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: Kars
                  Well, why. I personally saw the opposite. They quickly drove them into the Maidan as soon as they decided not just to restrain them. And they drove them to Grushevsky several times, the problem is that they are not enough to capture, and do not surround.

                  I do not know. Running back and forth is a common thing. I participated in overclocking, and I came across different ones. That's what they have now - quite serious resistance
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 19 February 2014 16: 43
                    +4
                    Quote: Pimply
                    I participated in overclocking

                    I participated only in ordinary fights.


                    There is resistance, but only due to the fact that Yanukovych is still trying to save face in the West.
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 19 February 2014 16: 47
                      -1
                      Quote: Kars
                      There is resistance, but only due to the fact that Yanukovych is still trying to save face in the West.

                      That is unlikely. If there was a lokalka, as in Moscow in 1993, they would have decided quickly and bloodyly. Well, Maidan has serious support in the country
                      1. Kars
                        Kars 19 February 2014 19: 17
                        +3
                        Quote: Pimply
                        It is unlikely

                        What I see, I see.
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Well, Maidan has serious support in the country

                        There are, and therefore, only quick, decisive measures can help, and affect the hesitant to turn away from the Maidan. After yesterday, the Maidan lost a lot of sympathy for people.
                      2. Tersky
                        Tersky 19 February 2014 20: 36
                        +3
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Well, Maidan has serious support in the country

                        She is much more outside. In fact, Nuland said that the US openly controls all the media in Ukraine. This is money, and a lot of money.“Biden called on Yanukovych, but not the radicals, to“ maximum restraint ”! So the extremists once again received a signal of support from the United States, ”the deputy wrote on his Twitter microblog. On the night of February 18 on February 19, US Vice President Joe Biden phoned Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and demanded an immediate dialogue with the opposition, as well as the removal of special forces from the streets of Kiev. According to Interfax, Biden also said that the US "condemns the violence used by all parties" of the conflict. At the same time, the US vice president placed special responsibility for the removal of tension in the situation in Ukraine on the government of the country.
                        And this is a direct text in support of lawlessness and chaos in Kiev.
                      3. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 February 2014 20: 43
                        -3
                        Quote: Tersky
                        And this is a direct text in support of lawlessness and chaos in Kiev.


                        Everyone loves always to blame on the State Department ...

                        If there is no soil, watering is pointless
                      4. Tersky
                        Tersky 19 February 2014 21: 03
                        +3
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Everyone loves always to blame on the State Department ...

                        And who brings it down? If he drains himself to the fullest ... Wherever his ears stick everywhere, his ears stick out, but the State Department has already climbed out full length from behind the curtain.
      3. Motors1991
        Motors1991 19 February 2014 16: 31
        -2
        Predictably, the people of Yanukovych have no support, regular lackeys do not count, you can’t sit on cops with rubber truncheons for a long time. Even if you disperse the Maidan today, blood has already spilled, they will start shooting from around the corner. So, the best option for Ukraine is for Yanukovych if he left, then everyone would calm down. The trouble is that he won’t leave, but you need to carry it forward with your feet. I also want to say that there are far from being Westerners on the barricades, there are a lot of Russian speakers there.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 17: 03
          +2
          Quote: Motors1991
          what is the best option for Ukraine, so that Yanukovych leaves, then everyone would calm down

          who is in his place? !!
          1. Motors1991
            Motors1991 19 February 2014 17: 43
            -2
            And at least someone. It will not be worse, at least those who were before him did not bring matters to bloodshed. In Ukraine you will not find a single segment of the population that he did not deceive, except for the cops, judges, prosecutors, but how it is said that he didn’t give birth to poppy for seven years and there was no famine. There has never been such a merger of criminals and law enforcement agencies, now it’s one all-Ukrainian organized crime group. In Kiev, they go for cops, get the wounded, and at night they beat 20 ambulances, who Some of those present could tell that Lukashenko or Putin, when they had to disperse the protesters openly, used bandits, but Yanukovych uses them. Moreover, many corpses were counted when Bolotnaya was repeatedly dispersed, no, but in Kiev the bill goes to tens, and how many were missing, only God knows. So any president will do, except Yanukovych.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 February 2014 17: 48
              -1
              Quote: Motors1991
              In Kiev, follow the cops, “aunts”, and finish off the wounded, at night they defeated the cops 20

              As far as I know, we are talking about two
              1. Motors1991
                Motors1991 19 February 2014 21: 09
                +1
                In the morning, twenty were announced on the radio, in addition, ambulance leaders were kicked out of work.
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 17: 58
              +4
              Quote: Motors1991
              And at least someone. It will not be worse, at least those who were before him didn’t bring the matter to bloodshed

              very sorry stupid position.
              at least someone, and those who come to power in your parliament applauded the slogans-death to maskals and Jews ?? !!!
              if you don't like them and want to shout "Get out" again, they will not get confused and the order "fire to kill" will be given without hesitation.
              besides, maybe you like it, maybe not, but Russia also has a voice in this matter and on the border it doesn’t really need another extremely aggressive state, which means the coming to power of such figures will not calm the conflict, in the best case it will be driven inside.
              and the Ukrainian economy will not jump up from the "embrace" of Europe.
              1. Motors1991
                Motors1991 19 February 2014 19: 49
                0
                Today there is no question of Europe, there is a gangster regime that most residents of Ukraine do not like, if it were otherwise, the Maidan had been dispersed a long time ago and forgot about this misunderstanding. Donbas. I know what I'm talking about, with Donetsk, I worked even during the first campaign of Yanukovych for the presidency, and so they gave money, but wished him defeat, which happened. In the second attempt, if he had not intervened in this process Putin (I still don’t understand why he needed it) Yanukovych never became president. So he tricked his voters, that’s not all, he also threw Putin, and, surprisingly, Putin helps this again instead of supporting pro-Russian forces in Ukraine. In December 2013, Russia gave a loan of 3 billion dollars, for this money you can keep the entire Ukrainian army with the fleet for 1,5 years, where no one knows where to go. Now ask yourself a question for these money Russia could contain pro-Russian XNUMXth batch of ten years? I think it could have remained, instead, they give money to individuals who then regularly throw their benefactor, and then snot begins about a tricky experience that have nothing to do with this money.
                1. Aleksandr65
                  Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 21: 32
                  0
                  And how did you define the majority? Referendum? Mre Yanukovych is much closer than you.
                2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 23: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: Motors1991
                  the whole thing is that they hate Yanukovych everywhere, including in the Donbass

                  maybe they won’t see everything, but the question again is who will sit in his place and think that the interests of the East will not be the main ones
            3. Aleksandr65
              Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 21: 29
              +3
              What a wild word titushki. Write in Russian. I saw the killed not cops, but militiamen, beaten anti-Maidanists, beaten women by these "unfortunate" wounded, who were the first to attack Berkut. And then we got what we should. It is a pity that they did not finish off, as it should be according to the Law! Yanukovych may be bad, but this is not a reason to kill non-Yanukovych!
      4. Tersky
        Tersky 19 February 2014 20: 12
        +2
        Quote: Pimply
        After this, you get a bloody slaughter near by, and given the situation - unpredictable
        There is already a massacre, 20 corpses per day, 144 injured. Or do you need to wait for 200 two hundred in a day? Libya on the streets of Kiev.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 20: 45
          -2
          Quote: Tersky
          There is already a massacre, 20 corpses per day, 144 injured. Or do you need to wait for 200 two hundred in a day? Libya on the streets of Kiev.

          Now there is a long way to the slaughter. Those methods that you think are normal will lead to such a slaughter. And the account will not be 25 dead, but hundreds, thousands
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 19 February 2014 21: 21
            +3
            Quote: Pimply
            Quote: Tersky
            There is already a massacre, 20 corpses per day, 144 injured. Or do you need to wait for 200 two hundred in a day? Libya on the streets of Kiev.

            Now there is a long way to the slaughter. Those methods that you think are normal will lead to such a slaughter. And the account will not be 25 dead, but hundreds, thousands

            At the time, tens of thousands were led by a similar situation in Chechnya. They were loyal ..
          2. old rocket man
            old rocket man 19 February 2014 21: 29
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            Now there is a long way to the slaughter. Those methods that you think are normal will lead to such a slaughter. And the account will not be 25 dead, but hundreds, thousands


            This is for sure, but there is one nuance, these hundreds and thousands will be from the side of the Maydan.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 February 2014 21: 52
              -2
              Quote: Old Rocketman
              This is for sure, but there is one nuance, these hundreds and thousands will be from the side of the Maydan.

              Yeah. So you already divided Ukraine? Double standards always touched me - they so clearly say that people have a soul. Saakashvili is evil, good Yanukovych 8) If I don’t like someone, then on that side there can be at least a million corpses - I will justify everything. Charmingly you are engaged in self-deception, just charming.
    4. slvevg
      slvevg 19 February 2014 16: 08
      -5
      very funny, Tersky, for some reason your Great Russian imperial spirit is not able to descend to the level of an ordinary Ukrainian man in the street with his problems and aspirations. Few people on THIS, previously respected by me, are generally able to comprehend the motives of the revolt of the people, in your opinion, any government is worthy to milk the country immensely ... Russia is mega-sawing budget money with all sorts of Deripaska-Deribaska, a disgrace to the Russian society ... we are equal to YOU. Read the program and goals of the "right sector" and answer, why are they wrong? Do not take it personally to you, just a machine gun hit.
      1. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 19 February 2014 16: 19
        -8
        Quote: slvevg
        just hit the machine gun.

        Here the essence of what is happening on the Maidan is known to only a few, and these few are you, the Russians need bread and circuses, so that the people of Ukraine would be crushed with armored personnel carriers and machine guns shot, and it would be better to join Ukraine to the Russian Federation but at the same time mowing down a fair amount of people.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 17: 16
          +6
          Quote: Teacher Onizuka
          Russians need bread and circuses, so that the people of Ukraine would be crushed with armored personnel carriers and machine guns shot, and it would be better to join Ukraine to the Russian Federation but at the same time squander a fair amount of people.

          brain problems or is it congenital ?!
          half of Russians have relatives or friends in Ukraine
          1. Onizuka teacher
            Onizuka teacher 19 February 2014 20: 37
            -5
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            brain problems or is it congenital?! half of Russians have relatives or friends in Ukraine

            Well so
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Russians
            and ask for what they ask to crush the rebellion.
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            brain problems or is it congenital ?!

            Looks like you have a problem since you don’t know how to read.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 23: 05
              +1
              that's exactly what they want, because there can be very big blood
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        2. Tersky
          Tersky 19 February 2014 20: 56
          +4
          Quote: Teacher Onizuka
          Here the essence of what is happening on the Maidan, only a few know, and these few are you

          And the teacher of Onizuka ....
          Quote: Teacher Onizuka
          Russians need bread and circuses, so that the people of Ukraine would crush armored personnel carriers and shoot machine guns

          What do we smoke, dear? Kazakhstan will not remember 2011. Mr. Zhanaozen that they dispersed with brooms? You have one pretty opposing feature, at any opportunity, spit in the direction of Russia.
          1. Onizuka teacher
            Onizuka teacher 19 February 2014 21: 03
            -4
            Quote: Tersky
            What do we smoke, dear? Kazakhstan will not remember 2011. Mr. Zhanaozen that they dispersed with brooms? You have one pretty opposing feature, at any opportunity, spit in the direction of Russia.

            Mutually you know. There they did not use machine guns and artillery as yours suggest.
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 19 February 2014 21: 42
              +2
              Quote: Teacher Onizuka
              There they did not use machine guns and artillery as yours suggest.

              There, Nazarbayev instantly introduced a state of emergency curfew, i.e. the cops were armed with far from rubber truncheons and pump-action boots with rubber bullets. Feel the difference...
              Quote: Teacher Onizuka
              Mutually you know.

              To me your reciprocity is like a drum ... do you know ..
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 23: 07
              0
              so there the crowd didn’t use firearms
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      3. Prutkov
        Prutkov 19 February 2014 16: 30
        -1
        Well yes. Rewrote from Mein Kampf and be proud.
      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 17: 27
        +2
        Quote: slvevg
        Any power worthy of milking the country immensely.

        no, it’s not worthy, but when bandits come to power under the guise of improving their lives, it’s even worse
      5. Tersky
        Tersky 19 February 2014 20: 48
        +3
        Quote: slvevg
        very funny, tersky, for some reason your Great Russian imperial spirit

        and here:
        Quote: slvevg
        Do not take it personally to you, just a machine gun touched.
        Come to one thing.
        Ivano-Frankivsk. Here, the security forces guarding the buildings of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine simply folded their shields in front of the protesters, saying that they "support the people of Ukraine." The security forces left the building of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine to be torn to pieces by the radicals, who, according to preliminary data, received at their disposal 120 machine guns, 20 machine guns and several million cartridges. The buildings of the regional administration of the SBU and the prosecutor's office were also seized and torn to pieces. So what is the spirit of "great imperial" for these 20 machine guns in the hands of scumbags? I hurt for Ukraine, I lived and worked in Kiev, I look at Khreshchatyk, it's just awful ... What are you doing to the country? Believe me, as a former resident of Grozny in Chechnya, it began in the same way, and you are well aware of how it continued. None of this would have happened if force was initially used
      6. Aleksandr65
        Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 21: 35
        0
        What the fuck is the right sector program if I see Nazis and bandits by their BEHAVIOR? And "the end justifies the means" is for you to Adolf Hitler, his method
    5. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 19 February 2014 22: 15
      +1
      Tersky
      "Handsome" is the best way to convince dolbokusov that they are absolutely wrong.))))
  • Varangian22
    Varangian22 19 February 2014 12: 16
    +1
    A couple of maxims in the cross-fire position and an unlimited number of rounds
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 19 February 2014 13: 03
      +3
      Quote: Varangian22
      A couple of maxims in the cross-fire position and an unlimited number of rounds

      ... while you can be more humane - "pain emitter" ultrasonic gun
      to describe, then put it on the snow to cool ...
      1. ReifA
        ReifA 19 February 2014 18: 47
        +3
        Yes, for example, I did not understand why only non-metal cannons are used from non-metal. There are gas checkers, for example, from which there is such diarrhea that it is not up to the Maidan.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 18: 50
          0
          Quote: ReifA
          Yes, for example, I did not understand why only non-metal cannons are used from non-metal. There are gas checkers, for example, from which there is such diarrhea that it is not up to the Maidan.

          They are actively used. And injuries too. Protesters only have gas masks, helmets, shields and armor
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 28
      -1
      Quote: Varangian22
      A couple of maxims in the cross-fire position and an unlimited number of rounds

      Yeah. After that, the whole west of the country and all of Kiev begins to blaze, and the number of victims goes to thousands
      1. DEfindER
        DEfindER 19 February 2014 16: 19
        +3
        Quote: Pimply
        Yeah. After that, the whole west of the country and all of Kiev begins to blaze, and the number of victims goes to thousands

        How can you not understand that it is impunity that generates aggression, for which, in your opinion, the power departments are generally needed if the bandits could simply be persuaded not to be bandits. Good should be with fists as I become more and more convinced.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 16: 45
          -1
          Quote: DEfindER
          How can you not understand that it is impunity that generates aggression, for which, in your opinion, the power departments are generally needed if the bandits could simply be persuaded not to be bandits. Good should be with fists as I become more and more convinced.

          Good - this is Yanek, crap Russia wherever possible? 8)
          1. DEfindER
            DEfindER 20 February 2014 00: 58
            0
            Quote: Pimply
            Good - this is Yanek, crap Russia wherever possible? 8)

            I have such a suspicion that he had no choice, his country is so corrupt and controlled by the West through NGOs and the media that the president has his hands tied, and it is very difficult for him to pursue an independent policy .. And the step that he took refusing to sign a suction is just that proved, perhaps it was a very strong-willed act on his part.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 25
    -4
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    .... there are not armored personnel carriers already needed, but "Terminators" and "Solntsepeki"!

    Yeah. Then immerse the country in the chaos of war
    1. Onizuka teacher
      Onizuka teacher 19 February 2014 14: 10
      -6
      Quote: Pimply
      Yeah. Then immerse the country in the chaos of war

      + It would be easier for many here to see.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 14
        -8
        Quote: Teacher Onizuka
        + It would be easier for many here to see.

        Yeah. They have never been shot at
        1. Onizuka teacher
          Onizuka teacher 19 February 2014 14: 22
          -12%
          Quote: Pimply
          Yeah. They have never been shot at

          Here many veterans of Call of Duty and Battlefield know what the Ukrainian authorities need to help, immediately the people will crush and shoot, Yanukovych before them like cancer to China. They were shot at only in the monitor fellow
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 17: 19
            +5
            Quote: Teacher Onizuka
            immediately the people will crush and shoot

            The people are in the field, at the machines, at the easel, and with a bat and a bottle they are bandits
          2. old rocket man
            old rocket man 19 February 2014 21: 39
            +2
            Quote: Teacher Onizuka
            Here many veterans of Call of Duty and Battlefield know what the Ukrainian authorities need to help, immediately the people will crush and shoot, Yanukovych before them like cancer to China. They were shot at only in the monitor


            Sergei Zverev on the avatar.
            Everything is clear. Do you remember the song? - ".. what a blue sky .." laughing
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      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 17: 18
        +2
        Quote: Teacher Onizuka
        Quote: Pimply
        Yeah. Then immerse the country in the chaos of war
        + Seeing many here would make it easier

        no, still innate fool
        1. Onizuka teacher
          Onizuka teacher 19 February 2014 20: 44
          -4
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          no, still innate

          Your Russians are writing, but I’m only surprised by your hypocrisy, your people are urging the Ukrainians to bomb and I’m shocked by this, but you don’t find fault with others, but you and I were faulted with their idiotic fools.
          1. Aleksandr65
            Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 21: 39
            +2
            yes you are a hypocrite, calling Ukrainians ordinary Nazis and bandits
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 23: 11
            +1
            Quote: Teacher Onizuka
            bomb Ukrainians urge your

            you are even more stupid than you want to seem, no one has offered to bomb the Ukrainians, you have suggested toughly extinguishing bandits and Nazis.
            according to your idiotic logic, if they propose to put a rapist against the wall, it means shooting people to whom he belongs
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  • DEfindER
    DEfindER 19 February 2014 16: 04
    +1
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    .... there are not armored personnel carriers already needed, but "Terminators" and "Solntsepeki"!

    Well, or one pinocchio I think will be enough ..
  • Arhj
    Arhj 19 February 2014 09: 48
    +11
    In this news, the only good news is that the police and explosives finally began to use special equipment, but only the time of the armored personnel carriers there passed another month and a half ago. Today, tanks are already needed there.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 19 February 2014 09: 58
      +13
      So neither armored personnel carriers nor tanks are designed to disperse the crowd. And if the task is to destroy manpower, then the armored personnel carrier with its KPVT is quite for itself. You just need to know how to cook (c) laughing soldier
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 19 February 2014 10: 38
        +13
        and again, the experience of the Tzahalians of Israel ((((
        D-9 bulldozers, under the cover of infantry ((((

        special forces "Berkut", there are bulldozers in Ukraine + fire trucks (((
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 29
          -6
          Quote: cosmos111
          and again, the experience of the Tzahalians of Israel ((((
          D-9 bulldozers, under the cover of infantry ((((

          special forces "Berkut", there are bulldozers in Ukraine + fire trucks (((

          The time when bulldozers could decide something has passed
        2. RND
          RND 19 February 2014 15: 20
          +1
          However, for this you need to be the master of your country. In all this situation, the Ukrainian authorities are only drawn to tenants with pronounced political impotence and insurmountable kleptomania. There are no peasants in the government at all, they are "square" rags. For real men, they only hide behind their backs. Yanyk is a real bastard, betrays "Berkut" and VV !!! am
      2. Arhj
        Arhj 19 February 2014 11: 03
        +4
        Quote: c1n7
        So neither armored personnel carriers nor tanks are designed to disperse the crowd. And if the task is to destroy manpower, then the armored personnel carrier with its KPVT is quite for itself. You just need to know how to cook (c) laughing soldier

        And why should it be dispersed, it must be crushed, crushed. And the tanks there are needed for the convenience of the collapse of the barricades. Still, army travelers will not interfere.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 31
          0
          Quote: Arhj
          And why should it be dispersed, it must be crushed, crushed. And the tanks there are needed for the convenience of the collapse of the barricades. Still, army travelers will not interfere.

          Yeah. Have you ever seen a real corpse? And with a crushed head? And the female? And taking into account the moods in the western and central parts of the country, can you imagine the consequences?
          1. Onizuka teacher
            Onizuka teacher 19 February 2014 14: 11
            -3
            Quote: Pimply
            can you imagine the moods in the western and central parts of the country?

            No, they do not represent. I am amazed at the many comments here.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 17
              0
              Quote: Teacher Onizuka
              No, they do not represent. I am amazed at the many comments here.

              The saddest thing is that they really believe most of the "Bandera" and "fascists" on the Maidan, and everything was inspired by the West. And the fact that for the revolution they first fertilize the soil, and fertilize first of all the current government - this does not come to mind
              1. slvevg
                slvevg 19 February 2014 16: 45
                +1
                pimpled, you are right, as usual, I personally was and is against the seizure of power by force, but in Ukrainian realities Yanyk showed how he is ready to cooperate, there is no trust in him, the masks are reset. If they start to crush tanks or use real automatic weapons in large numbers, to protect my loot, I, like many retired officers, will organize to confront, and as you understand, I won’t go to the Independence Square with a naked skull, armature at the ready and the wind in my head. Not for this I studied 5 years. Then the students will move forward, and it’s always too late to capture the Rada and the president’s palace, if there are no MANPADS in your hands, but you’re in the front. God forbid they will crush tanks. There are many warehouses in Ukraine and western Ukraine will not particularly protect them. Preparation for such a scenario is already underway, if Yanukovych does not leave, he will be torn up with all the oligarchs. It is necessary to imagine the full extent of what is happening ... In reality, almost the entire population of cities and towns of the Western world has mobilized and is ready to go to the end, the end of the regime and system.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 19 February 2014 16: 49
                  0
                  Quote: slvevg
                  pimpled, you are right, as usual, I personally was and is against the seizure of power by force, but in Ukrainian realities Yanyk showed how he is ready to cooperate, there is no trust in him, the masks are reset. If they start to crush tanks or use real automatic weapons en masse, to protect my loot, I, like many retired officers, will organize for confrontation, and as you understand, I won’t go to the Independence Square with a naked skull, armature at the ready and the wind in my head.

                  To be honest - I don’t feel much sympathy for the Maidan. But I just perfectly understand what causes it, why it happened and why it has such real support
                  1. slvevg
                    slvevg 19 February 2014 17: 49
                    +2
                    To be honest - I don’t feel special sympathy for the Maidan

                    not only that, I’m afraid of him, I don’t like when people die, but this has already happened. If the people in the person of the Maidan retreat, then Lukashenko will be a model of democracy for Ukraine.
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 19 February 2014 17: 50
                      +1
                      Quote: slvevg
                      not only that, I’m afraid of him, I don’t like when people die, but this has already happened. If the people in the person of the Maidan retreat, then Lukashenko will be a model of democracy for Ukraine.

                      It's right
                2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 17: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: slvevg
                  I, like many retired officers, organize for confrontation, and as you know, I won’t go to the Independence Square with a naked skull

                  and when fans of Nazism come to power, where will you go ?!
                  1. slvevg
                    slvevg 19 February 2014 17: 45
                    +1
                    and when fans of Nazism come to power, where will you go ?!

                    I can assure you there are no Nazi adherents among the military adherents, but I said that the students with their wind and ideals will move aside. There will be other rates. At the finish line, I suppose, you will have to cool your head and the "radicals" themselves will not stop. And Nazism in moderation unites people and disciplines.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 18: 06
                      +1
                      Quote: slvevg
                      I can assure you among the military adherents of Nazism no

                      and I'm not talking about the military to power, then those who are not involved in the army
                    2. Aleksandr65
                      Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 21: 50
                      0
                      [b] "Nazism in moderation unites people and disciplines" [b [/ b]] [/ b]. You quote Hitler. Bravo! "Head Chiller". How many will you kill, figured out? Or, perhaps, all the same according to the law, albeit imperfect? By the way, if they kill you, how?
                3. Aleksandr65
                  Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 21: 43
                  0
                  To the end, so to the end, yours. In vain do you think that only you learned
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          3. Aleksandr65
            Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 21: 42
            +1
            But what about the terrorists and bandits? see Israel, Syria, Libya
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    3. cdrt
      cdrt 19 February 2014 11: 29
      +6
      They need water cannons.
      The question is why wow are not used.
      Maybe there is one of them exploited here? - can they be used more than once in winter?
      I mean, the water will not freeze in the fixture?
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 31
        +2
        Quote: cdrt
        The question is why wow are not used.

        Apply. One is burned. Just in the current situation they are already ineffective
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 19 February 2014 13: 39
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          Just in the current situation, they are already ineffective

          ... so what do you want your fellow tribesmen to do there? Evacuation?...
          What does your premier think to help
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 05
            -4
            Quote: Rus2012
            ... so what do you want your fellow tribesmen to do there? Evacuation?...
            What does your premier think to help

            Russians and Russian?
            1. old rocket man
              old rocket man 19 February 2014 14: 23
              +7
              Quote: Pimply
              Russians and Russian

              No, the Jews are Israeli.
              Don't you understand that the Galician Natsiks will take on the Jews in the first place. Their antiphobia is higher than even hatred of "m @@@ yam" and the Poles.
              1. Rus2012
                Rus2012 19 February 2014 14: 35
                +1
                Quote: Old Rocketman
                No, the Jews are Israeli.
                Do not you understand that the Galician Natsik will take up the Jews in the first place.

                ... they don’t itch their way around the business ... the Little Russian Jew and not brother to them, 3,14 people trust. Oh well...
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 56
                +1
                Quote: Old Rocketman
                Don't you understand that the Galician Natsiks will take on the Jews in the first place. Their antiphobia is higher than even hatred of "m @@@ yam" and the Poles.


                Do you think something will change so much? Or is tolerance towards Jews more characteristic of the eastern regions?

                Cute screams about Jews I hear at least from those sitting here on the forum, who violently stigmatize the Maidan
                1. old rocket man
                  old rocket man 19 February 2014 16: 33
                  +6
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Do you think something will change so much?

                  I think so. At least you are not being robbed or slaughtered right now, and these direct descendants of Makhno and Bandera can.
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 19 February 2014 16: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Old Rocketman
                    I think so. At least you are not being robbed or slaughtered right now, and these direct descendants of Makhno and Bandera can.

                    Over the past few years, the number of attacks on Jews in Ukraine - and in various areas, including the eastern ones - has been more than decent. For example, in Dnepropetrovsk on rabbi Baitman.

                    I do not build illusions about a considerable share of the participants of the Maidan in this regard. But I do not build illusions at the expense of their opponents.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 17: 22
                      +3
                      Quote: Pimply
                      I do not build illusions about a considerable share of the participants of the Maidan in this regard. But I do not build illusions at the expense of their opponents.

                      the choice between bad and good is rare, more often between bad and terrible.
              3. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 15: 20
                +6
                Quote: Old Rocketman
                Do you really not understand

                He understands everything, but Zhenya works as a lobbyist or PR specialist, if he works professionally. Considering what he is writing now, he received a deduction from someone and writes to order. It happened already when he pushed Iveco and other crap here, and after Serdyukov’s resignation did not give a damn about Iveco.
                Now Ukraine, stop paying, spit on maidan. So arguing with him is now useless.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 27
                  -1
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  He understands everything, but Zhenya works as a lobbyist or PR specialist, if he works professionally. Considering what he is writing now, he received a deduction from someone and writes to order. It happened already when he pushed Iveco and other crap here, and after Serdyukov’s resignation did not give a damn about Iveco.

                  Sasha, you have crossed the line.
                2. old rocket man
                  old rocket man 19 February 2014 16: 28
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  So arguing with him is useless now.


                  But sometimes it’s interesting. And useful, instead of gymnastics, so to speak laughing
                  1. samoletil18
                    samoletil18 19 February 2014 16: 44
                    +2
                    Something is not visible "Akim" on the site
                3. cosmos111
                  cosmos111 19 February 2014 16: 37
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  and Serdyukov, he didn’t give a damn about Iveco.

                  Precisely noticed good !!!!
                  Yes Iveco, PR, pros .... Already, dust with a column (((((
                  and now, about this armored car, for half a year more than one comment (((
                4. Igor39
                  Igor39 19 February 2014 16: 59
                  +2
                  I agree with you Alexander, this is obvious.
                5. Aleksandr65
                  Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 21: 55
                  0
                  Now everything fell into place. thank
            2. Aleksandr65
              Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 21: 52
              0
              pimple-aunt?
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    7. alexng
      alexng 19 February 2014 15: 32
      +6
      Hey site administrators, what kind of mess with the site engine with the addition of comments in the branch the comment itself is duplicated, and with the addition of a new branch everything seems to be normal - one at a time. Firefox browser under LINUX.

      And about tanks and armored personnel carriers you got excited. Do not need them there. There is enough Be-200 with full filling from the surface of the Dnieper and give a couple of tubs (tubs) of cold Dnieper water to the hot maydanut heads. A couple of flights would radically change the situation and brainwash many. And the most important thing is not any crime, because it does not fit into any international article of precedents, then no ...
  • Blad_21617
    Blad_21617 19 February 2014 09: 50
    +7
    Shoot the bastards! what to mess with them, the situation is already ripe!
    1. Onizuka teacher
      Onizuka teacher 19 February 2014 14: 19
      -4
      Quote: Blad_21617
      Shoot the bastards! what to mess with them, the situation is already ripe!

      And you get a pure slaughter with a predictable result in the form of Livy.
      1. old rocket man
        old rocket man 19 February 2014 14: 29
        +5
        Quote: Teacher Onizuka
        And you get a pure slaughter with a predictable result in the form of Livy


        Teach us foolish. And how does this concern you with Pupyrchaty? You rub here all day, like at work.
        1. Onizuka teacher
          Onizuka teacher 19 February 2014 14: 35
          -2
          Do not spend nth money on such programs as Oryol and Reshka, the richer the people live, the more they want peace. That's all.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 56
            -2
            Quote: Teacher Onizuka
            The more satisfying the people live, the more they want peace. That's all.
            far from always
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        3. Rus2012
          Rus2012 19 February 2014 14: 42
          +4
          Quote: Old Rocketman
          Rush here all day, like at work.

          rub, rub, but they don’t catch mice :)
          They think they’ve got the whole shrovetide ... Here the Galicians will go through six-pointed marks -
          a couple of shekels will be deducted for their bad work- Aunt Izya will ask them to scruff and they will not mutilate paysakhovka on Shabbat :)))
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  • sergey32
    sergey32 19 February 2014 09: 51
    +6
    In war, as in war.
  • siberko
    siberko 19 February 2014 09: 54
    +11
    It’s not difficult to set fire to armored vehicles, against cattle (especially activist activists) it’s necessary to use firearms to ring in avtozaki ... and to put three traitors as traitors, and not to negotiate with them ....
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 36
      -6
      Quote: siberko
      It’s not difficult to set fire to armored vehicles, against cattle (especially activist activists) it’s necessary to use firearms to ring in avtozaki ... and to put three traitors as traitors, and not to negotiate with them ....

      Half a million people in Kiev came to EuroMaidan. Only now on an area of ​​about 20000 people. Can you imagine the reaction in the country to the massive use of a firearm? Among the protesters, not only and not so young. For example, a fairly large group - Afghan veterans
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 19 February 2014 13: 40
        +4
        500 and 000 as they say two big differences, and the radicals who shoot at the police and the 20-000, so there will be no resonance. Ukraine needs to be saved, and for this all methods will work.
        All Western magazines should be deprived of their accreditation by 1 day and sent out in XNUMX day, who will rustle from diplomatic missions to autoruns and then let go of the gunmen, shoot people fighting to exhort the radicals to herach and fight off the masses and that’s all business.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 05
          -2
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          500 and 000 as they say two big differences, and the radicals who shoot at the police and the 20-000, so there will be no resonance. Ukraine needs to be saved, and for this all methods will work.

          Has already. Western regions of the country are already blazing
          1. Aleksandr65
            Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 21: 57
            0
            Nehai burn
      2. slvevg
        slvevg 19 February 2014 16: 52
        -1
        against cattle (special activists) it is necessary to use firearms to ring

        I wish you peace and prosperity. But someday, intoxicated by silence, the Russian oligarchs will decide to cripple the livestock living on their estate. Then we'll talk.
  • Mazadrive
    Mazadrive 19 February 2014 09: 59
    +3
    Quote: sergey32
    In war, as in war.

    War is a matter of the military, then tanks. There are no military negotiations.
  • moroz656
    moroz656 19 February 2014 09: 59
    +6
    In such cases, engineering vehicles based on the t-72 are necessary ......
    1. kenig1
      kenig1 19 February 2014 10: 08
      +6
      What are IMZ? they will also burn. UR-77 is now needed there.
  • Ahmed Osmanov
    Ahmed Osmanov 19 February 2014 10: 00
    +8
    Stop playing democracy, freedom of speech. We need to act and as my father said yesterday, looking at the footage from Ukraine: “Destroy”! That's all!
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 38
      -3
      Quote: Akhmed Osmanov
      Stop playing democracy, freedom of speech. We need to act and as my father said yesterday, looking at the footage from Ukraine: “Destroy”! That's all!

      And to get a civil war, given that the case is not localized by Kiev and has widespread support?
      1. alexng
        alexng 19 February 2014 14: 54
        +4
        The civil war is already underway from the first shot. All games are over. Now it’s already someone and it seems that the people themselves - the South-East of the country will deal with this booth.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 06
          -3
          Quote: alexneg
          The civil war is already underway from the first shot. All games are over. Now it’s already someone and it seems that the people themselves - the South-East of the country will deal with this booth.

          Do you consider the people only Southeast? Somehow you cut Ukraine sharply more than half
          1. Ahmed Osmanov
            Ahmed Osmanov 19 February 2014 15: 23
            +3
            Dear Eugene, you saw what these "protesters" were doing with the police. They are already playing face-to-face, all the cards are revealed: some are using combat weapons, others are throwing Molotov cocktails, lighted tires, bricks. Yesterday they showed footage from the center of Kiev, where a policeman was killed, so these footage were exactly the same as those that were done with soldiers in Afghanistan, Mali, etc. - they were stripped of all their equipment. It is necessary to toughly pacify at least those who are in the square. Remember Syria? This is how it all began there: at first there were supposedly peaceful protests, but then radicals appeared, the first shots went off and on. hi
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 30
              -3
              Quote: Akhmed Osmanov
              Dear Eugene, you saw what these "protesters" were doing with the police.

              Saw. Moreover, I understand the policemen better than yours probably - I once stood on the other side, and was engaged in dispersal of such demonstrations here too.

              Quote: Akhmed Osmanov
              It is necessary to firmly pacify at least those who are in the square.

              What is now - not tough?

              Quote: Akhmed Osmanov
              Remember Syria?

              Too good. And it all started there because the lack of valves for the release of steam is the trouble of all authoritarian regimes. And the bullets flying into the crowd only burn it more and more
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      3. slvevg
        slvevg 19 February 2014 16: 54
        0
        Pimply come out of the branch, tired to ply. The forces are not equal. request
  • Known who
    Known who 19 February 2014 10: 00
    +5
    Unfortunately, the beginning of the civil war according to the Yugoslav scenario ...
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 39
      -2
      Quote: It is known who
      Unfortunately, the beginning of the civil war according to the Yugoslav scenario ...

      Not yet. And obviously not in Yugoslav - there were more parties there.
  • svp67
    svp67 19 February 2014 10: 02
    +7
    If only the crew remained alive ... and the "iron", there will still be ...
  • region46
    region46 19 February 2014 10: 02
    +11
    in December, the whole Maidan could be dispersed by water cannons, when the frosts were -20. how much would they insist there on a frost with wet panties?
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 40
      -1
      Quote: region46
      in December, the whole Maidan could be dispersed by water cannons, when the frosts were -20. how much would they insist there on a frost with wet panties?

      The use of water cannons at this temperature is limited by law. But they were used in the end, and quickly enough. Didn't help much
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 15: 15
        +1
        Quote: Pimply

        The use of water cannons at this temperature is limited by law.

        These standards have been repealed.
  • kenig1
    kenig1 19 February 2014 10: 04
    +9
    Telok Yanukovych talked about, he pulled time while hiding money, and now he has given the situation to the Ministry of Internal Affairs and is sitting watching. Previously, it was necessary to strangle the Maydan, sorry for the guys, on Ren TV they reported about 7 dead employees.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 40
      +1
      Quote: kenig1
      about 7 dead employees.

      Now the total number of deaths is 25, employees among them - 9
  • s1н7т
    s1н7т 19 February 2014 10: 07
    +2
    Either they are waiting for something, or the authorities in Ukraine have completely "lost their scent", having exchanged professionalism for material benefits sad
  • Russ69
    Russ69 19 February 2014 10: 10
    +12
    The APC burned down, the loss is not great, the main crew escaped. Worse is another ....

    The regional police department of Ivano-Frankivsk was captured. Extremists seized the weapons room. One hundred and twenty machine guns, twenty machine guns, and about five million rounds fell into the hands of extremists.

    Source: http://politikus.ru/events/13064-ekstremisty-zahvatili-oruzheynuyu-komnatu-milic
    ii-ivano-frankovska.html
    Politikus.ru


    However, the quantity confuses me ...
    1. Michael_59
      Michael_59 19 February 2014 12: 34
      +1
      Does the police have machine guns in service?
      This is not a special forces base, control.
      We controlled only PM, "rezinstrels" and 6 submachine guns in the CWC DCh.
    2. slvevg
      slvevg 19 February 2014 16: 58
      +2
      About the amount is right, which is embarrassing. wink
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  • P12P
    P12P 19 February 2014 10: 34
    +1
    in such cases it’s high time to use weapons to defeat
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 42
      -1
      Quote: P12P
      in such cases it’s high time to use weapons to defeat

      Yeah, the massive use of weapons to defeat is to become finally a persona non grata, and get a guaranteed civil war
  • alex-kon
    alex-kon 19 February 2014 10: 35
    +8
    there, in what equipment you must first start up, so that all wicks are extinguished.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 42
      -2
      Quote: alex-kon
      there, in what equipment you must first start up, so that all wicks are extinguished.

      Already late
    2. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 19 February 2014 13: 44
      0
      There, the ash will remain from the city after such tractors; there are unforgettable millions of citizens who are out of work.
  • Mikado
    Mikado 19 February 2014 10: 37
    +4
    Mdaaa, well Yanukovych, but m..lo, what does he calve then? Only yesterday I read "the opposition's ultimatum was announced," well, I think, at least they started to act. And today I read "Yanukovych said to separate the opposition from the radicals," "US Vice President Biden called Yanukovych and said to immediately withdraw the special forces from the streets and hold back." How much will he "hold back" then? Why such a president? There is no more faith in him. Let some thread of Pinochet come from the military environment, once it's a shobla on the Maidan to disperse
  • bistrov.
    bistrov. 19 February 2014 10: 48
    +5
    The helplessness of the law enforcement agencies is striking. If the APC has already been withdrawn, then use its standard weapon, i.e. 14,5 KPV (b) machine gun. The severed arms, legs, and even the bodies, torn in half, would fly in different directions. That would be a real "acceleration". And so they set fire to the APC and that's it.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 43
      +2
      Quote: bistrov.
      The helplessness of the law enforcement agencies is striking. If the APC has already been withdrawn, then use its standard weapon, i.e. 14,5 KPV (b) machine gun. The severed arms, legs, and even the bodies, torn in half, would fly in different directions. That would be a real "acceleration". And so they set fire to the APC and that's it.

      Have you ever seen a corpse after hitting such a bullet? I am.
      Can you imagine the consequences of the application?
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 19 February 2014 13: 48
        +3
        The corpse will be from falling into the limbs or tangentially with a direct hit, it will be just a piece of meat.
    2. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 19 February 2014 13: 47
      +2
      A bullet (mini-projectile) will actually crush such meat, and it is not clear where it will fly later, it’s easier then to drop less losses from the PC into the crowd, it is necessary to shoot selectively and only the instigators and not the cannon at the crowd.
      1. old rocket man
        old rocket man 19 February 2014 14: 44
        +1
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        it is necessary to shoot selectively and only the instigators and not from the cannon at the crowd.

        And get the result, exactly the opposite of what you want.
        If you want to disperse with the use of a firearm, then you need to shoot at the crowd to create panic. After that, batons will be enough. And they will selectively shoot at each other until there are enough rounds.
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        2. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 07
          -4
          Quote: Old Rocketman
          If you want to disperse with the use of a firearm, then you need to shoot at the crowd to create panic. After that, batons will be enough. And they will selectively shoot at each other until there are enough rounds.

          Shooting the crowd in those situations in Ukraine leads to a radicalization of the situation. Suffice it to recall Syria and the revolution of 1905
        3. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 19 February 2014 15: 08
          +1
          The tumor is cut out carefully and locally, and you immediately suggest that the patient cut off his head.
          They will start shooting at the crowd, two will be killed, hundreds will die in the crush, the sight of the shot head of a man throwing a stone at the golden eagle will sober up anyone and make you think maybe he’s on x ... I'll watch it all on TV.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 12
            -1
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            They will start shooting at the crowd, two will be killed, hundreds will die in the crush, the sight of the shot head of a man throwing a stone at the golden eagle will sober up anyone and make you think maybe he’s on x ... I'll watch it all on TV.

            Not sober, at least in the current situation
          2. old rocket man
            old rocket man 19 February 2014 21: 50
            0
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            The tumor is cut out carefully and locally, and you immediately suggest that the patient cut off his head.


            And here we are not talking about treatment. The situation can (so far) be saved only amputation negative
  • Aleksandr65
    Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 10: 49
    +7
    Little is said about this, but yesterday the bandits killed and crippled not only the police, but also dozens of peaceful supporters of the legitimate government. That is, the same ordinary, normal people like us. Bandits are better armed and organized, extremely aggressive. War increasingly concerns everyone. And this is scary. The authorities are not fulfilling their duties.
  • Kars
    Kars 19 February 2014 10: 54
    +3


    So the APC went on a campaign. And on the video in the news it is then visible later.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 19 February 2014 11: 30
      +1
      There is not an armored personnel carrier, but an ordinary ZILok.
      1. Kars
        Kars 19 February 2014 11: 36
        +4
        Quote: Greenwood
        There is not an armored personnel carrier, but an ordinary ZILok.

        Here both that and another. Both the armored personnel carrier and the truck left, which rammed the barricade backwards, left.
        1. Corneli
          Corneli 19 February 2014 12: 44
          +2
          Quote: Kars
          Quote: Greenwood
          There is not an armored personnel carrier, but an ordinary ZILok.

          Here both that and another. Both the armored personnel carrier and the truck left, which rammed the barricade backwards, left.

          There were 2 armored personnel carriers, one seemed to burn, the second was put out. They say that the crews were saved.
          One more thing like a water cannon burned down ... At least in the streams I saw a couple of times that the cocktails fought against one, drove very close.
          As for the weapon, yesterday one of the streamers in the studio told me that he saw personally how one of the "peaceful" demonstrators on the Maidan fired a Kalash at a golden eagle and it seemed that it even hit the stream.
          1. Kars
            Kars 19 February 2014 13: 25
            +1
            Quote: Corneli
            BTRov was 2, one kind of burnt,

            In the video where, as they say, the armored personnel carriers were burned, it was precisely this moment. The island of the burned was not shown on any channels.

            I only saw air guns. And what guns I don’t know. The police about the dead speak only about the use of improvised weapons.
            1. cosmos111
              cosmos111 19 February 2014 14: 25
              +3
              Quote: Kars
              I saw only air guns. And what guns I don’t know. Police about the dead

              Kars
              a person sees, what only he wants to see !!!!
              if you are on the side of Bandera, naturally they are all "peaceful protesters" for you ((((
              but the facts and video footage say that this is a LIES !!!
              и you LIE, intentionally or not, this is another question ((((
              Bandera armed, firearms, at least ((((
              1. Kars
                Kars 19 February 2014 14: 51
                +3
                Quote: cosmos111
                but the facts and video footage say that this is a LIES !!!
                and you LIE, intentionally or not, this is another question ((((

                Well, we’ll not go into the essence of my preferences.
                But according to the BTR, it’s clear that the BTR went under its own power.


                So what exactly can I lie? At what second is the machine gun?
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 58
                -1
                Quote: cosmos111
                but the facts and video footage say that this is a LIES !!!
                and you LIE, intentionally or not, this is another question ((((


                The fact that on the first frame in a black helmet is the Chinese airman BAM 4, 640 hryvnias. The second has a Fort injury
                1. Kars
                  Kars 19 February 2014 15: 00
                  +4
                  Quote: Pimply
                  The second has a Fort injury

                  injuries mainly sawn under live ammunition / bullets
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 08
                    0
                    Quote: Kars
                    injuries mainly sawn under live ammunition / bullets

                    It’s possible, I don’t argue
                2. cosmos111
                  cosmos111 19 February 2014 15: 15
                  +1
                  Quote: Pimply
                  n The second has a Fort injury

                  Pimpled, trying to tell fairy tales ???
                  tell me at least one Jewish fairy tale?
                  but Jewish tales for children NO WHY???
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 34
                    -3
                    Quote: cosmos111
                    Pimpled, trying to tell fairy tales ???
                    tell me at least one Jewish fairy tale?
                    but Jewish tales for children NOT WHY ????


                    The fact that you are not familiar with them is your purely personal problem. Flood?
                3. cosmos111
                  cosmos111 19 February 2014 22: 18
                  +1
                  Quote: Kars

                  So what exactly can I lie? At what second is the machine gun?

                  Quote: Pimply
                  Chinese air BAM 4, 640 hryvnia. The second has a Fort injury

                  here is a photo that the militants have at least 12-gauge hunting weapons (6- charge) ((((

                  PM gun
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 20 February 2014 00: 39
                    -1
                    It is difficult to judge by PM - they were so many times reinstated under injuries. Shotgun - yes, the first time in the pictures. Why!
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 15: 14
              +1
              Quote: Kars
              .The remains of the burned were not shown on any channels.

              Kars, showed today an armored personnel carrier completely burned down.
              1. Kars
                Kars 19 February 2014 15: 18
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Kars, showed today an armored personnel carrier completely burned down.

                Where?
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 15: 54
                  0
                  Quote: Kars

                  Where?

                  According to our news, this armored personnel carrier is flickering constantly.
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 19 February 2014 16: 21
                    +1
                    Yes, here I agree. There is. But in the video BTR definitely left.
                    1. cosmos111
                      cosmos111 19 February 2014 17: 18
                      0
                      statement of the commander of unit 1241 of the Internal Affairs Ministry of Ukraine on the factual transfer to the side of the militants((((

                      speak Ukrainian, but everything is clear and without translation (((
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 February 2014 17: 25
                        -2
                        There are several such statements, and in different cities
                    2. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 18: 17
                      0
                      Quote: Kars
                      Yes, here I agree. There is. But in the video BTR definitely left.

                      Kars, but I don’t argue that he left. He then burned to the ground and could not put it out, or did not have time.
  • Bassoon
    Bassoon 19 February 2014 10: 58
    +1
    Quote: Kars


    So the APC went on a campaign. And on the video in the news it is then visible later.

    I just wanted to say this. I hope that the crew and equipment were saved.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 19 February 2014 14: 45
      0
      Quote: Fa
      So the APC went on a hike. And on the video in the news it can then be seen later. [/ Quote

      under an armored personnel carrier, something exploded, stuffed with homemade napalm (((((((((
      firearms received by special ... "Berkut"
      [/ comment-show]
  • kelevra
    kelevra 19 February 2014 11: 01
    +9
    This is comrades, it looks like a civil war! It's time to shoot to kill, is it really not clear that there are no peaceful Ukrainians among the Maydanschiks, some militants and radicals are extremists! The Ukrainians themselves are looking where they have thrown their country 15-20 years ago and are slowly losing her, it's time to get up all and smash these bastards!
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 49
      -13%
      Quote: kelevra
      It's time to shoot to kill, is it really not clear that among the Maidan workers there were no peaceful Ukrainians

      I have a girl friend on the Independence Square. Writing it to the Bandera fascists is extremely problematic. And there are a lot of people like her there. Rather, even the majority. There, at night I posted a photo of what was happening
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 19 February 2014 14: 53
        +2
        Quote: Pimply

        I have a girl friend on the Independence Square. Write her in the Bandera fascists

        Why not???
        and why is it, maybe it already lies ???
        here is a speech, judah, which pushes Ukraine into the abyss of civil war !!!!
        "Some of my advisers want to use force, like a solution, but ME ?! No! I'm all for the peace negotiation process."
        on that I largely disagree with VV Putin, but I didn’t allow such a lawlessness of GDP !!!!!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F5WIFEx4y0k
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 10
          -5
          Quote: cosmos111
          on that I largely disagree with VV Putin, but I didn’t allow such a lawlessness of GDP !!!!!

          The country is richer


          Quote: cosmos111
          Why not???
          and why is it, maybe it already lies ???

          Because I know too well. And what doesn’t lie - I also know, because I follow on Facebook - she regularly unsubscribes.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 15: 11
        +6
        Quote: Pimply

        I have a girl friend on the Independence Square.

        And I think that you write a blizzard for the second day in a row, but it’s like that.
        Zhenya, you’re a lobbyist, you are promoting the interests of others for money. Firstly, a money box, now Maidan. Did you pay a lot?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 15: 23
          -9
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Zhenya, you’re a lobbyist, you are promoting the interests of others for money. Firstly, a money box, now Maidan. Did you pay a lot?

          Sasha, continue to be rude - I will file a complaint with the site administrator. I have always respected your opinion, and I beg you, do not let me lose the respect that I have experienced so far. In Ukraine, I have friends on both sides. And don’t tell my slippers - lobbyism? Here?
          This is an exchange forum. Judging by your statements, you are unacceptable everything that does not call the Maydanites fascists. Therefore, I will remind you - you are a moderator, and you are too actively crossing the permissible line in our communication, moving to overt rudeness and rudeness. I have said everything.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 16: 09
            +4
            Quote: Pimply

            Sasha, continue to be rude - I will file a complaint with the site administrator.

            Yes, let me down, I write from your own words that you told me outside of Sait. Should I show them to Smirnov? I already answered you in a personal.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 February 2014 16: 13
              -2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Yes, let me down, I write from your own words that you told me outside of Sait. Should I show them to Smirnov? I already answered you in a personal.

              Sasha, I repeat - hold your tongue. And what I said outside the site is like a personal conversation that you are trying to pull into a public plane.

              If you are so disrespectful and stupid (forgive me) not to understand how personal opinion differs from work, and if you are not able to admit your mistakes, then you have nothing to do on the site with a moderator badge. Hand it over.
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 19 February 2014 17: 03
                +8
                Quote: Pimply
                how personal opinion differs from work, and

                for such work they select those whose opinion coincides with the official duties. Then it works with a twinkle. wassat
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 19 February 2014 17: 26
                  +3
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  for such work they select those whose opinion coincides with the official duties. Then it works with a twinkle.

                  The moderator is neutral. Otherwise, the meaning is lost
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 19 February 2014 17: 50
                    +3
                    Quote: Pimply
                    The moderator is neutral.

                    I'm not talking about moderators bully
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 19 February 2014 17: 51
                      -2
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      I'm not talking about moderators

                      And I about them
                    2. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 18: 14
                      +2
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      I'm not talking about moderators

                      Hello Ruslan! Don’t argue with him, I wrote everything to him in PM. Not the fact that I’ll understand, because I ..
                      Quote: Pimply
                      disrespectful and stupid
                      . write with errors, I think not right, I allow myself to argue and disagree belay That moderator is not allowed according to some. Although where in the rules of the Sait it is written that the moderator does not have the right to have an opinion, I don’t know crying
                      Hi Ruslan! I watch hockey and I want to howl am
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 February 2014 18: 48
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        I write with errors, I think it’s not right, I allow myself to argue and disagree That some people don’t allow moderator. Although where it says in the rules of the site that the moderator does not have the right to have an opinion, I don’t know

                        Sasha, I have always respected your opinion.
                        The question is that Moder must abide by the rules that it supports. Do you think it’s shameful to be rude and insulting for yourself
                  2. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 18: 09
                    +2
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Moderator is neutral

                    Yes, what snowstorm? I will become a neutral in someone’s argument, but not in where I’m participating.
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 19 February 2014 18: 32
                      -3
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Yes, what snowstorm? I will become a neutral in someone’s argument, but not in where I’m participating.

                      Yeah. This is not a dispute, Sash, this is hitting and rudeness. Bulling You break the rules that you must follow.
                      Nobody forces you to change your mind. Moreover, I always treated him with respect. The only question is that you cannot show my opposite respect. And not only can you not, and you cross the boundaries of communication standards.
              2. Aleksandr65
                Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 22: 13
                +1
                Now it’s clear, you are at work! That's all flooded. Well earn, earn, you pimple ours
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 20 February 2014 00: 41
                  -4
                  Quote: Aleksandr65
                  Now it’s clear, you are at work! That's all flooded. Well earn, earn, you pimple ours

                  The only thing they found to say? Bravo. 8)
          2. cosmos111
            cosmos111 19 February 2014 16: 53
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            Sasha, continue to be rude - I will file complaints

            >>> On Tuesday, the former special forces members of the right-wing radicals tried to seize the Rada. At the moment, clashes are taking place between the police, its supporting population and extremists. The militants are using weapons (updated) >>>

            http://oko-planet.su/first/231378-vo-vtornik-byvshie-specnazovcy-v-sostave-pravo

            radikalov-popytayutsya-zahvatit-radu.html

            pulled up fire units, the fire was extinguished ((((
            1. cosmos111
              cosmos111 19 February 2014 17: 04
              +1
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        2. slvevg
          slvevg 19 February 2014 18: 49
          0
          . Have you paid a lot?

          Well, the Christmas tree sticks, again I hear money from you. Not enough, or everything in life for money, but what in this world are people out of motivation doing nothing?
        3. connerr
          connerr 20 February 2014 01: 44
          -2
          and how much do you pay for "patriotism"? you delete profiles one by one
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  • buzer
    buzer 19 February 2014 11: 05
    +5
    read somewhere an article on the unification of the two Koreas. So there the idea was expressed that nobody needs a united Korea ... Too strong and competitive state will work !!! Maybe in Ukraine such a scenario is realized ??? Who needs a prosperous and united Ukraine? Only Ukrainians, no one else! The same Yugoslavia collapsed, finally I am silent about the USSR. And Ukraine has great potential and therefore I won’t be surprised if it finally collapses !!! And Yanukovych will play the role of Ukrainian Gorbachev ... Maybe he will even get some kind of prize ...
  • loginovich
    loginovich 19 February 2014 11: 06
    -7
    Quote: starshina78
    I am also surprised at the inaction of the Ukrainian authorities. This is a war, and it must be waged as it should. Once they started shooting, they must answer the same. Detonated an armored personnel carrier? So they must be crushed by tanks! Others will be scared and will not go!

    Where to take tanks and tank attendants only enough for aunts
    1. connerr
      connerr 20 February 2014 01: 19
      0
      and then they are thrown without paying laughing
  • max702
    max702 19 February 2014 11: 06
    +5
    Only mass shootings will save Ukraine, it will only get worse ... without destroying several hundred criminals today, Ukraine will lose tens of thousands tomorrow, and hundreds, or possibly millions of its citizens, tomorrow. A cancer tumor must be excised before it is missed in the bud and the whole organism dies. Iraq, Libya, Syria and many others cannot be counted as examples. It seems that Ukraine is approaching the point of no return of the khan to the country ..
  • x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 19 February 2014 11: 09
    +3
    Enough to follow the lead of the West! So you can lose the country. It seems that Yanukovych has some kind of double plan or doesn’t know what to do if he is called from the USA and demands. And the people and the police are hostages of all this.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 11: 17
      +9
      Quote: x.andvlad
      It seems that Yanukovych has some kind of double plan. And the people and the police are hostages of all this

      yes grandmothers from this bitch in Europe, should not have a government official to have foreign deposits
      1. slvevg
        slvevg 19 February 2014 19: 05
        +1
        yes grandmothers from this bitch in Europe, should not have a government official to have foreign deposits

        how I agree with you soldier
    2. RUSLAN39
      RUSLAN39 19 February 2014 13: 05
      +1
      Quote: x.andvlad
      Enough to follow the lead of the West! So you can lose the country. It seems that Yanukovych has some kind of double plan or doesn’t know what to do if he is called from the USA and demands. And the people and the police are hostages of all this.

      Yanukovych is behaving too cautiously, like a girl of easy virtue - he doesn’t want to spoil our and your relations with Russia, and he is completely afraid to quarrel with Europe and the USA (he still hopes for something naive). It’s hard to sit over two chairs. In this situation, only a strong-willed decision on the use of force and the cleansing of the Maidan and the rebel regions of Ukraine will help.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 11: 15
    +11
    I do not know how the Yanuca ruled before, but based on how he "copes" with the crisis, the leader is like a bullet from him.
    he is killed by cops and members of his party, and he chews and mumbles, something is not intelligible about the need to agree.
    Bandera has already tasted the taste of blood, everything can now be stopped only with very tough force
    1. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 19 February 2014 11: 44
      +4
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      Bandera has already tasted the taste of blood, everything can now be stopped only with very tough force

      Exactly, the "beast" of the human woman tried, now only to kill.
      1. connerr
        connerr 20 February 2014 01: 23
        -2
        Quote: matRoss
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Bandera has already tasted the taste of blood, everything can now be stopped only with very tough force

        Yes late. Nothing can be stopped. The war will grow every day and hour. The non-use of weapons is already pointless. Goodbye Ukraine! Russia needs to prepare for the reception of millions of refugees and pull troops to the borders with Ukraine, as well as the Black Sea Fleet to be ready to quickly isolate Crimea.

        and if Bandera with you break the agreement of the Black Sea Fleet, then what?
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    3. matross
      matross 19 February 2014 11: 48
      +4
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      Bandera has already tasted the taste of blood, everything can now be stopped only with very tough force

      Yes late. Nothing can be stopped. The war will grow every day and hour. The non-use of weapons is already pointless. Goodbye Ukraine! Russia needs to prepare for the reception of millions of refugees and pull troops to the borders with Ukraine, as well as the Black Sea Fleet to be ready to quickly isolate Crimea.
  • smersh70
    smersh70 19 February 2014 11: 46
    +5
    everyone knows that the BTR-60,70,80 burn like matches. Whoever managed to send him there. Indeed, not young people are standing on that side, but many have passed Afghanistan, hot spots, have experience of war. In general, it was necessary to ship BTR-3, or BTR-4, we would see how they work, maybe after that Iraq would return those Ukrainian BTR-s smile
    1. rolik2
      rolik2 19 February 2014 12: 39
      +1
      Quote: smersh70
      In general, it was necessary to ship BTR-3, or BTR-4

      And do you think they should burn differently? There was an attempt to pull apart the barricades, it didn’t work out, they went there and the bulldozar burned it, and it’s not a fact that the crew would not have burned down, but they tried it didn’t work, they will try differently
      1. Valter
        Valter 19 February 2014 14: 00
        +6
        The rabble on the Maidan not everyone has gas masks, one has only to create the necessary concentration of tear gas and these Maidan scoundrels will burst into tears, after which they can be taken, as they say, with their bare hands, moreover, helicopters filled with water could fly into the Maidan and throw them on Bandera trash a few tones of water, but no one did this either, here on the site people posted photos of various armored special equipment, which is designed to disperse such "peaceful demonstrations" do not think those who are planning an operation to clean up the Maidan do not know this? Personally, I strongly doubt that. And what do we see in the end?
        They send armored personnel carriers under Molotov cocktails !!! Even to people who have nothing to do with the fighting, it will become clear that Maidan cattle will throw lighters with armored personnel carriers and, of course, burn it. A golden eagle is fired at using automatic firearms (using the dark time of the day and the corrupt media that are silent about police gunshot wounds), while a golden eagle has only rubber batons and other non-lethal weapons of special kind. it turns out. If today there is no adequate situation for actions on the part of the leadership of law enforcement agencies and policemen will continue to send like cannon fodder for the fun of Bender’s vile scum, then this is an all-bloody performance in the style of the criminal Gorbachev.
        1. dropout
          dropout 19 February 2014 16: 53
          +1
          Quote: Valter
          this is all a bloody performance in the style of the criminal Gorbachev.


          quote from "Terkin in the Other World":


          “It's kind of like an ambulance coming:
          She cuts herself, she crushes herself, she herself gives help "
  • Muadipus
    Muadipus 19 February 2014 11: 54
    +6
    In Syria, events also developed, at first the authorities tolerated, tried to show humanity under the pressure of the Geyropovsky Tolirastes. and at that time the bandits grew stronger and set up outposts.

    I was also outraged at school when they told us about "Bloody Sunday" BUT. The authorities should feel responsibility for the entire people. A protester with a stick, a stone or a Molotov cocktail is not a peaceful protester. and the employees of the Berkut also have the right to defense. Forcing the boys to just stand under a hail of stones is a crime - as an option, patience may burst and the warriors themselves will bring order. as for example it happened not long ago in Egypt and earlier in many countries. And it seems to me that this option is more preferable.
  • tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 19 February 2014 11: 58
    +3
    I am enraged by the inept behavior of the internal troops. Well, why the hell drove the armored personnel carrier ?. what did they want to achieve this ?. or did they think that the iron is not burning?
  • Xroft
    Xroft 19 February 2014 12: 02
    +1
    In Lviv, they captured a military unit, opened army depots ...... what are they waiting for? what would the tanks begin to steal?
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 19 February 2014 12: 05
      0
      well, they don’t have Karimov
    2. Muadipus
      Muadipus 19 February 2014 13: 23
      +1
      Ohrenet !!!!!! belay
  • Andron_by
    Andron_by 19 February 2014 12: 13
    -2
    In Rivne, the local Berkut detachment was disarmed. VIDEO

    http://censor.net.ua/video_news/271411/v_rivnom_razorujili_mestnyyi_otryad_berku
    ta_video
  • anarky
    anarky 19 February 2014 12: 20
    0
    It is not clear what they wanted to do with this armored personnel carrier? See how strong the barricades are and whether the protesters are at a loss? It’s good at least they could get away, otherwise they would have burned them with the driver’s body alive or whether they would have captured the armored personnel carrier, which would have added several times to the hemorrhoids of the police.
  • Andron_by
    Andron_by 19 February 2014 12: 22
    +4
    I don’t know what they talked with Merkel. But they attack more actively and more radically. Akkurat after negotiations ...
  • demandy1
    demandy1 19 February 2014 12: 29
    +3
    Something tears off the roof. Do they have the president just a rag? Or the army in Ukraine (wrote with a capital letter and thought, are they entitled after all this to write the name of their country with a capital letter) no? Maybe it’s time for the army to take care of putting things in order? Where are the security forces? They would cut out all this evil spirits in a quiet night, so that the rest of the remnants would be scrubbed liquid in the morning. Where are the Cossacks? It’s a shame for them especially ...
    1. Genry
      Genry 19 February 2014 13: 14
      +1
      Until yesterday, it was all at the level of police operations (the army is above this).
      Now that the war has come, the time has come for the army and the state of emergency.
      It's time for Yanukovych to begin a brutal game, as in the Middle Ages.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 13: 52
      +1
      Quote: demandy1
      Or the army in Ukraine (wrote with a capital letter and thought, are they entitled after all this to write the name of their country with a capital letter) no?

      An emergency must be declared for the army. According to the current legislation, he cannot do this without a certain quorum in the Rada. You think why the subway and stuff are slowed down by rumors of bombs?
      In addition, the military has been so squeezed in recent years that it is not known who they will go against.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 15: 08
        +1
        Quote: Pimply
        In addition, the military has been so squeezed in recent years that it is not known against whom they will go

        Are you sleeping? ....
        13:39 The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine confirmed the sending of paratroopers to Kiev
        Information about the paratroopers was previously distributed by the ex-Minister of Defense, now the opposition politician Anatoly Gritsenko. He clarified that we are talking about the fighters of the 25th separate Dnepropetrovsk airborne brigade. According to the ex-minister, 500 people in full combat gear are being sent to the capital. http://warfiles.ru/show-48772-minoborony-ukrainy-podtverdilo-otpravku-desantniko
        vv-kiev.html
      2. Motors1991
        Motors1991 19 February 2014 16: 49
        0
        Given the state of our army, if it can still be called such, it is unlikely that an emergency will help, and taking into account the mood of the junior officers is even more so. Unless the generals from the tanks will shoot and then for a large suitcase of money.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 16: 58
          +2
          Quote: Motors1991
          Given the state of our army, if it can still be called such, it is unlikely that an emergency will help, and taking into account the mood of the junior officers is even more so. Unless the generals from the tanks will shoot and then for a large suitcase of money.

          Yeah. About that and I speak
  • Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 19 February 2014 12: 47
    +1
    The weakling Yanukovych made it possible for the fifth column to gather forces and enlist the support of the so-called "Western democracy." Everyone should always remember that criticism and peaceful demonstrations are one thing, but an armed mutiny is quite another. If the captain on the ship does not suppress the rebellion, then a pirate group will form with all the ensuing consequences. And the country is the same ship many orders of magnitude larger and complicated. If now you do not suppress the rebellion in Ukraine, then a civil war will begin, and this is the collapse of the country, brother to brother and all the other "delights". Therefore, Yanukovych has no choice. The chatter time ended six months ago.
    1. slvevg
      slvevg 19 February 2014 20: 00
      0
      write everything that Yanyk is a weakling, stupid person .... so hell to us then, and your position is bad, but live with this shit and do not rock the boat.
      1. Oleg Kharkov
        Oleg Kharkov 19 February 2014 21: 29
        +2
        It's very simple - elections next year. But Molotov cocktails are more fun to throw than to control the electoral process. More adrenaline. And the ruins of the country are much better, because the excuse is iron: Yanukovych is wrong. He may not be right, but the collapse of Ukraine is not the price to say there is no current government.
  • Sochi
    Sochi 19 February 2014 12: 55
    +2
    Played Yanyk in tolerance. He did not crush Bandera, did not crush the opposition, flirted with the West for a long time, and got the result. It is impossible to be good and kind for everyone, they will sit on the neck or throw off. Now, if he doesn’t use force, he will be given a khan. It is already impossible to stop good.
  • scientist
    scientist 19 February 2014 13: 09
    0
    As the saying goes, "what they fought for and ran into." Now, if Yanukovych cannot restore order and announce a referendum on the constitution + early elections within a few weeks, then he will have nowhere to run.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 07
      +2
      Quote: scientist
      As the saying goes, "what they fought for and ran into." Now, if Yanukovych cannot restore order and announce a referendum on the constitution + early elections within a few weeks, then he will have nowhere to run.

      Already especially nowhere
      1. old rocket man
        old rocket man 19 February 2014 14: 47
        +2
        Quote: Pimply
        Already especially nowhere


        Yes, he will only hang himself now. Maybe then the family will be "forgotten"
  • Rodover
    Rodover 19 February 2014 13: 11
    +6
    It’s a pity for the boys from "BERKUT". They are now the hardest of all. May God grant them patience and endurance! And so that everyone returned home safe and sound!
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  • demon184
    demon184 19 February 2014 13: 46
    +2
    Soon, peacekeepers will be sent to Ukraine to divide the territory. It didn’t work to take the whole of Ukraine, although at least some of them want to be a father.
  • Salamander
    Salamander 19 February 2014 13: 56
    +1
    The Minister of Defense of Ukraine Pavel Lebedev confirmed that paratroopers were sent to Dnepropetrovsk, where riots erupted on the eve of opposition supporters. Reports about it "Left coast". “Yes, I gave such an order,” said the head of the military department.

    According to him, the paratroopers were sent to the capital "to strengthen the protection of the bases where military weapons are stored, as well as the arsenal."

    Information about the paratroopers was previously distributed by the ex-Minister of Defense, now the opposition politician Anatoly Gritsenko. He clarified that we are talking about the fighters of the 25th separate Dnepropetrovsk airborne brigade. According to the ex-minister, 500 people in full combat gear are being sent to the capital.

    Prior to this, the Ministry of Defense, commenting on the political confrontation in Ukraine, emphasized that the army would not intervene in it. The head of the ministry, however, admitted that the military could still be involved in resolving the situation if a state of emergency is introduced in the country.
    http://warfiles.ru/show-48772-minoborony-ukrainy-podtverdilo-otpravku-desantniko
    vv-kiev.html
  • pawel57
    pawel57 19 February 2014 14: 00
    -12%
    BECAUSE THE RIGHT SECTOR OF RIGHTS. Their slogans are: strong and independent Ukraine; collector of Russian land (Kievan Rus); down with government thieves and traitors; hit y ... oh; down with my .... her. What is wrong here. About independence and Janek, everything is clear. Well ... the organizers of revolutions, thieves and bandits, traitors and defectors where the Motherland is warm there, have plundered the countries of residence and ran in rows to the promised country and London. whether .... they got everyone and in Russia compare Moscow or Ryazan itself, strangled the country with their hands and through the same F ... c. Listen carefully to the interview of the right-wing sector guide by Anna News. Everything new comes unnoticed and the future belongs to the patriots of Ukraine. Of course, the West has a gesheft, but they did not expect that such a turn would take a protest. Patriotic youngsters went out into the street with their leaders, who would have thought.
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 19 February 2014 14: 10
      +3
      Quote: pawel57
      Everything new comes unnoticed and the future belongs to the patriots of Ukraine. Of course, the West has a gesheft, but they did not expect that such a turn would take a protest. Patriotic youngsters went out with their leaders, who would have thought.

      Only the universe and human stupidity are infinite. Although about the first I have doubts. (ce)
      1. pawel57
        pawel57 19 February 2014 14: 21
        -8
        put it on yourself
    2. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 19 February 2014 14: 50
      +3
      And who and when had bad slogans? Hitler, for example, was a pure democrat, and Napoleon carried the ideas of freedom, equality and fraternity. Some good ideas, only as a result, a bloody massacre. The one who blames anyone except for all his troubles he’ll never create and collect anything of himself. Ukraine is independent since the 91st, so what? Bandera and demons-gatherers of the Russian land-ridiculed.
      1. pawel57
        pawel57 19 February 2014 14: 55
        -1
        No, Medvedev with Putin and Yanukovych guardians of the Slavs. Laugh dear.
        1. tupolev-95
          tupolev-95 19 February 2014 15: 22
          +1
          No, not guardians. But those who arranged this coven are much worse. And does anyone really believe that if the president changes in Ukraine today, then tomorrow everything will be wonderful? Already there was a maidan, changed Kuchma to Yushchenko, so what?
          1. pawel57
            pawel57 19 February 2014 16: 23
            -5
            In a million, a nation of Slavs dies in Russia, article 282 applies exclusively to Russians, not a single representative body in power for Russians, no mention of the titular nation, Russians were completely cut out in Chechnya and Russians are fleeing from the Caucasus (Kadyr is a Russian hero for the murder of 1st Russian at 16 years), an ethnic one without limits in Russian cities, billionaires and rulers are completely at odds and can go on ad infinitum, even the same media, education, science, the art-dominance of one nation (not Russian). Ukrainians do not want to die out in silence. Of course, the authorities said that komunyaki with the USSR and Russians are bad, they themselves saw that liberalism is even worse, where to go? Naturally in nationalism. And they’re doing it right. If the Golden Eagle protects the enemies of the nation, then they are also enemies. Maybe war is needed if it doesn’t work out differently. And stop moaning about the world. The world for the Russian in Russia is now worse than war. Yes, all parties in Ukraine have joined the protesters. In addition to all Klitschko, there are normal patriots tired of living without a future (youth). This is a lesson to the tops, if they do not change the policy in the Russian Federation it will be abruptly.
            1. tupolev-95
              tupolev-95 19 February 2014 19: 44
              +2
              Nonsense of a madman. What nationality were all the presidents of Ukraine and almost the entire government? And what is the national question in Russia? Those who wear the swastika cannot be nationalists in any way - these are ordinary Nazis, fascist henchmen. The whole fuss started because of joining The EU, and this is death for the Ukrainian economy and there will simply be no talk of any future, just look at neighboring Romania. These are not patriots, they are demons, read Dostoevsky.
  • Owl
    Owl 19 February 2014 14: 07
    +4
    It is not clear why the armored personnel carrier did not try to go out in reverse, after being hit by bottles of fuel, backward to save the crew, extinguish the vehicle and restore equipment. There was a clear reason for the use of small arms to hit the crowd within a radius of 25-35 meters from the car, it was from there that fire mixture was thrown, the weapon "to kill" would be used to "repel an attack." There is only one conclusion: the "authorities" slept through the beginning of the civil war and the "siloviki" were not ready for war.
    1. Alexey M
      Alexey M 19 February 2014 14: 38
      +2
      The armored personnel carrier left but did not leave. The crew is alive and well. Firefighters to pick up 10-15 cars and to extinguish everything from the hoses along with the revolution. Quietly and peacefully, under the guise of firefighters, you can use the technique.
      The bad thing is that the info about the capture of a military unit with weapons has passed.
      The scum will be thrown out of Kiev, but it will be more difficult from Lviv.
      1. Muadipus
        Muadipus 19 February 2014 17: 07
        0
        Quote: Alexey M
        , but from Lviv it will be more difficult

        Well yes! She lives there.
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  • brainkiller
    brainkiller 19 February 2014 14: 28
    +1
    Quote: Eagle Owl
    It is not clear why the armored personnel carrier did not try to go out in reverse, after being hit by bottles of fuel, in reverse to save the crew, extinguish the vehicle and restore the equipment. There was a clear reason for the use of small arms to hit the crowd within a radius of 25-35 meters from the car, it was from there that fire mixture was thrown, the weapon "to kill" would be used to "repel an attack."

    and you do not try to understand. This will become clear when, God forbid, you yourself have to be in a burning car. Drove got burns, brought the car-well done, how it does not matter.

    Quote: pawel57
    put it on yourself
    I will stop after the Maidan hang your leader tyagnibok
    1. pawel57
      pawel57 19 February 2014 14: 33
      -1
      The hogger is your friend.
    2. Owl
      Owl 19 February 2014 15: 48
      0
      and got in and saw how they went out