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The sky over the Mediterranean "gave" the fifth centurion of Russia

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In the ranks of sea pilots of the North fleet a new centurion appeared. This is the name of the man who made one hundred landings on the deck of an aircraft carrier. There are only five such aces in Russia. Moreover, the last hundred landings were exchanged in quite combat conditions - our pilots are engaged in air patrols off the coast of Syria.


Salyutny day on the aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" begins in the hangar long before sunrise. A special elevator raises a multi-ton, not yet filled Su-33 to the height of a five-story building in just a minute.

In the parking lot of the aircraft parks powerful, albeit below human growth, the tractor.

"Here the wind is constant, rolls, the trim plays. It can be difficult when there is a strong wave. Upstairs is much lighter than below. There the walls are limited by bulkheads, and here is space," tells about the working conditions of the technician of the regulation and repair group of the heavy aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov "Evgeny Lebedev.

Before the pilots taking off in the first, as they say on an aircraft carrier, the pilots were assigned not a training task, but a combat task: to carry out air cover of a group of Russian Navy ships that are directly off the coast of Syrian civil war. And ensure the safety of transportation of humanitarian goods in this country.

To capture this rare - if not unique to the Mediterranean Sea - operation of the Russian military, journalists are sent in advance to a given area on a search and rescue helicopter. They succeed, but the shaking leaves its mark on the video. One of the passages of the two Russian Su-33 above the large landing ships "Azov" and "George the Victorious" and the large anti-submarine "Admiral Levchenko" are selected.

Completing the training flight, the pilot first passes over the deck at a height of several meters, goes to the U-turn, touches the strip in the second lap with the rear landing gear, and lands only on the third lap.

This is the jubilee hundredth landing on the deck of aircraft carrier Lieutenant Colonel Igor Tsukur. Exclusively with the help of fellow pilots, the threefold contact with the gun, which is traditional for such cases, is being carried out: a serious line has been passed for any ship pilot.

"Thanks to the brothers-helicopter pilots who always come to our aid. My beloved crew thanks a lot and respect until the end of my days. It's like a river, you will not enter the same water," - thanks the head of the combat training service of a regiment of heavy fighter ships aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" Igor Tsukur.

When landings go one after another, an emergency command comes from the control room - urgently replace the cracked spring that supports the receiving cable. A special team copes with the task in minutes. Failure on the landing schedule is not reflected.

- Attention, landing!

Silhouettes of foreign warships, meanwhile, began to appear on the horizon more often.

“The USS Revenge destroyer operates on the starboard side, the Gaziantep Turkey Navy frigate operates next to us. The aircraft from the French nuclear aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle carried out maneuvers in the immediate vicinity,” explains Admiral, commander of the Russian Navy aircraft carrier group in the Mediterranean Sea, Sergei Zhug

In between flights - this is one of the immutable security measures on the aircraft carrier - the deck is inspected for the presence of foreign objects. And again, one by one, the ship Su-33 rise into the Mediterranean sky.
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  1. artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk 19 February 2014 08: 54
    +45
    But this is already a pleasure to read, I hope that soon one in five will be such a specialist. Pilot ur.
    1. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 19 February 2014 09: 15
      +7
      Yesterday I watched a news release about the fifth centurion! I can say that the pilot, indeed - three times
      Quote: artist-mamluk
      Pilot ur.
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    3. tlauicol
      tlauicol 19 February 2014 15: 11
      +2
      it is: 5 pilots out of 25
      1. clidon
        clidon 19 February 2014 20: 43
        0
        It’s like a lottery ...
  2. Hort
    Hort 19 February 2014 08: 55
    +4
    keep it up!
  3. svp67
    svp67 19 February 2014 08: 57
    +16
    A new centurion has appeared in the ranks of the naval pilots of the Northern Fleet. This is the name of the man who made one hundred landings on the deck of an aircraft carrier. There are only five such aces in Russia.
    I wish our "falcons" and "petrels" that "centurions" would soon become a full LEGION ...
  4. Mazadrive
    Mazadrive 19 February 2014 09: 01
    +2
    Good news!
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 19 February 2014 09: 13
      +8
      quote -This is the jubilee hundredth landing on the deck of the aircraft carrier Lieutenant Colonel Igor Tsukur. Only with the help of fellow pilots, the hook, which is traditional for such cases, is touched three times: a milestone has been reached for any ship pilot.
  5. Llirik
    Llirik 19 February 2014 09: 12
    +3
    This is good, you are training new aces for deck aviation. Special thanks to the crew for interesting and beautiful shots.
  6. REDBLUE
    REDBLUE 19 February 2014 09: 13
    +3
    handsome, well done
  7. waisson
    waisson 19 February 2014 09: 13
    +6
    CONGRATULATIONS!!! soldier soldier soldier
  8. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 19 February 2014 09: 31
    +5
    And not near where a thread of borei or ash sat in the bushes for cover bully
    1. rubin6286
      rubin6286 19 February 2014 09: 42
      -18%
      Borea or Ashen, to get into the Mediterranean Sea, you need to go through Gibraltar, and to do this quietly impossible.
      1. Fin
        Fin 19 February 2014 10: 00
        +15
        Quote: rubin6286
        Borea or Ashen, to get into the Mediterranean Sea, you need to go through Gibraltar, and to do this quietly impossible.

        Borean is a strategist, he has nothing to do there, Ash is one in trial operation. Pass Gibraltar under the large ships.
        1. plotnikov561956
          plotnikov561956 19 February 2014 11: 33
          +16
          Captain of the first rank G.P. Lyachin ... his blessed memory perfectly demonstrated this on the Kursk ... possess information ...
          1. windjoker
            windjoker 20 February 2014 00: 41
            +1
            While still an OVIMU cadet, in practice, on the ChMP dry-cargo ship, one submarine was "brought" through Gibraltar from the Atlantic.
  9. Kulneff2009
    Kulneff2009 19 February 2014 09: 41
    0
    Well done! Hurray to our pilots !!!!!!!!
  10. pahom54
    pahom54 19 February 2014 09: 49
    +4
    If there are already five pilots who have made 100 landings on an aircraft carrier, then soon there will be immeasurably more of them, so the talks about building new aircraft carriers are not just going on. It is pleasant and joyful to read such messages. Good luck to both the new "Centurion" and his fellow pilots!
  11. Edward
    Edward 19 February 2014 09: 55
    0
    As they say Lubo!
    And then it will be like this:
    each of the five will have at least ten students, who will have at least ten students, who will have at least ten students ... etc. - such a progression.
    1. VAF
      VAF 19 February 2014 20: 26
      +5
      Quote: Edward
      each of the five will have at least ten students,


      Even in the years of the greatness and power of the USSR Air Force, there was no such thing ... that one instructor would carry 10 people lol
      So it’s clear that fellow but not to the same extent wassat

      And then we are truly turning into the people of North Korea - there for any reason fellow Urya. and if you don’t. then ... either from a machine gun or mortar wassat
      1. Srgsoap
        Srgsoap 19 February 2014 20: 36
        +1
        Serega welcome! I have not heard you for a long time! As always, you won’t resist a smile. good drinks And another question, as a professional. Why landing, only from the third call, for which the first two passes above the deck, the Americans seem to come from the first. A question of experience or ...? Thank.
        1. VAF
          VAF 19 February 2014 20: 44
          +1
          Quote: SrgSoap
          Serega welcome! I have not heard you for a long time!


          Hello my friend drinks Is it you something a long time ago, or .. "settled" where with the "trips"? wink
          I more or less appear occasionally. Although now OI ... not particularly ... "knock on the keyboard" wassat

          This is an "air rush from the media" .. slightly confused, out of ignorance, or you can say "I heard a ringing, but he doesn't know where he is" (maybe he remembered that someone was talking about Pugachev's first landing).

          And if you flew like that .. then all flights would be reduced only to flights in a circle and no further lol
          1. Srgsoap
            Srgsoap 19 February 2014 20: 49
            +1
            Yes, so far in "free", unfortunately ... Better not talk about OI ... I broke the keyboard on my computer today ... wassat With the landing everything is clear laughing
        2. alone
          alone 19 February 2014 21: 15
          +1
          Quote: SrgSoap
          As always, you won’t resist a smile.


          And what is left for real professionals to do here? You don’t have to rejoice, but think carefully. There are only 5 people in the entire Navy who were able to successfully land the aircraft on the deck of an aircraft carrier.
      2. supertiger21
        supertiger21 19 February 2014 20: 39
        +1
        Quote: vaf
        And then we are rightly turning into the people of North Korea - there, for any reason, we’re ready. and if you don’t. then ... either from a machine gun or mortar


        But the people are very patriotic and will never look at the enemy "beautifully" am .Because of that, they and traitors are less wink , not like ours ... recourse
        1. VAF
          VAF 19 February 2014 20: 56
          +4
          Quote: supertiger21
          But the people are very patriotic and will never look at the enemy "beautifully"


          Only now I’m looking at something .. our patriotic people for some reason suddenly stuck their tongues in one place?
          seems to be already like too much 2 hours passed like .. "suitcase-airport-NHL" and .. quietness ???
          By the time I wrote about it a week ago so .. they "poured" boiling water on June, I especially liked our beautiful half .. yes we are them. yes .. like a hot water bottle, and when the old grandfather wrote that it is not fucking to catch and, at best, the 3rd place. if even then .. there will be "slobaks". and then no luck .. hot Finnish guys.
          Fuck peasants .. 6th Olympiad. 43 (!!!!) years and .....
          Hde patriots .. go to uncle .. will rake in full .....
          But he warned .. don’t fool around .. falling on ... it will hurt!
          I’m still not talking about biathlon .... m..lyat Björndalen ... 40 (!!!) years and here 2-fold here and 8-fold in general, but they will win the 99% .9 relay race in general.

          Do not pay attention, I’m not angry at you .. just after listening to commenting on the competitions by Guberniev .... honestly I’ve been an animal for 3 hours !!!
          And after all, they keep such a ... although why be surprised .. "oiled .... p..or" Kisilev ... spoke and..that's already the Order of Merit to the Fatherland belay

          Although what is there to be surprised because we have Makarkin and a stool .. heroes am
          1. Srgsoap
            Srgsoap 19 February 2014 21: 07
            +1
            Serega is all to a point ... And I already noticed ... as Gusev comments ... ours always lose ... he started like that after our puck ... but I generally keep quiet about Guberniev ... I remember the finale 1992 Albertville with Canada ... it was something the guys were playing.
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 19 February 2014 21: 09
              +3
              1992 Olympics Albertville CIS National Team Canada Final
              1. Srgsoap
                Srgsoap 19 February 2014 21: 19
                +2
                Thanks for the video, get ahead! good
            2. atalef
              atalef 19 February 2014 21: 32
              +2
              Quote: SrgSoap
              Yerega all to a point ... And I already noticed ... as Gusev comments ... ours always lose

              Guseva on the soap wassat
            3. Fornit
              Fornit 19 February 2014 23: 07
              +2
              Quote: SrgSoap
              And I’ve already noticed ... how Gusev comments ... ours always lose ... he started playing after our puck, but I’m completely silent about Guberniev ... I remember the 1992 Albertville final with Canada ... it was something the guys were playing.

              But really, some kind of mysticism !!! My wife regretted the command of sedi - that they say they were very tired, to which I sharply stated that they only do not get tired of lumbering .... Bobrovsky, nevertheless - respect ...
              1. Srgsoap
                Srgsoap 19 February 2014 23: 28
                +2
                You are right about the dough ... just watched Canada-Latvia ... this is a game, that was hockey ... the Latvians played great, speed, passes, throws, counterattacks ... it was a very cool match ... And about Gusev really ... just figure it out from memory ... and after all, it's really worth it to score with ours and his mouth does not close .... well, an old joke ... "If our commentator says not everything is lost ... then everything is lost ... "
            4. SerAll
              SerAll 20 February 2014 01: 28
              0
              "as Gusev comments." I already wrote on the tape ... Ort (1 channel) and Gusev are disastrous for our national team ... and there are examples from the USA as well ... We could have shown Russia1 or 2 and everything would have been successful, but no, rating, only grandmothers in my head ... ugh ...
          2. alone
            alone 19 February 2014 21: 19
            +2
            Quote: vaf
            Only now I’m looking at something .. our patriotic people for some reason suddenly stuck their tongues in one place?
            seems to be already like too much 2 hours passed like .. "suitcase-airport-NHL" and .. quietness ???


            And what do you offer them Sergey? Remember my comment about the lack of a game? They attacked me as if I didn’t count this puck)) I also watched the game. After the game I thought it would be better if I didn’t watch this game .
          3. ssergn
            ssergn 19 February 2014 21: 23
            +5
            Sergey, good evening, namesake. And why be surprised, we do not have a team. We have a bunch of millionaires whose main dream is the Stanley Cup, and they say it openly. It's a shame, it would be better if they didn’t come at all. Let the youth beats better.
            If you look at such people, silly thoughts go into your head right away - it can generally forbid these stars to go to other leagues at the level of law. until something is won for the country (World Cup or Olympics). Maybe then what good will be of them for the country.
            And so, by yesterday’s meeting it was clear that there was a match, but ours didn’t have a game.

            Best regards hi
          4. supertiger21
            supertiger21 19 February 2014 21: 33
            +1
            Quote: vaf
            Only now I’m looking at something .. our patriotic people for some reason suddenly put their languages ​​in one place? It seems as if already like too much 2 hours have passed like .. "suitcase-airport-NHL" and .. silence ??? I wrote about it a week ago like this .. they "poured" boiling water on June, I especially liked our fair half .. yes we are them. yes .. like a hot water bottle, and when the old grandfather wrote that it was not fucking to catch and at best the 3rd place. if even then .. "slobaks" will come across. but here we were not lucky .. hot Finnish guys.M..yat Villagers. 6th Olympiad .. 43 (!!!!) years and ..... Where patriots .. go to your uncle .. you will be shoveling ..... But I warned you ... do not shrink ... fall on ... it will hurt ... I am still silent about biathlon .... m..yat Bjørndalen ... 40 (!!!) years and here 2x here and 8x in general, but they will win 99% .9 the relay is like that in general.


            So in terms of sports, I also think that it is impossible in advance to "share the skin of a not killed bear", because. Traditionally, the evil eye always goes. Especially in hockey, I feel sorry for our guys. The other day the Americans lost, today the Finns ... The main thing is never to relax and not think that the enemy is weak, "suddenly lucky." To defeat the enemy, you must first of all respect him.
          5. atalef
            atalef 19 February 2014 21: 39
            +3
            Quote: vaf
            Do not pay attention, I’m not angry with you .. just after listening to commenting on the competitions by Guberniev .... honestly I’ve been a beast of an hour for 3 !!

            Hey . Serge.
            For me this news is even worse than the events in Ukraine.
            How ? Why so, to them that the dough is not enough, the conditions that they lack. Such a shame. I looked - I thought I’ll break the telly.
            But I really wanted to win.
            Although - apparently many things are natural and miracles do not happen. A pity, a pity.
            Well, where, where, and in hockey I was hoping.
            One - removed - like a back - but fought to the end. the second ones seemed to fight to the end - no matter how you look. everyone seems to fight, lay down with bones. but there is no result.
            Again . so sorry . spoiled evening. negative , and not only evening.
          6. Vilor
            Vilor 19 February 2014 23: 16
            -1
            I don’t understand you. Are you so happy about our defeat? And what did everyone have to say? What will we lose? That's right, everyone believed in victory. We dreamed of victory. And you are the coolest here, you are going to distribute something to someone. I can’t imagine that before going out on a task in our group, or someone from another group, told us that: "Yes, you will wither away and in general they will kill you all." Why is your HIGH sarcasm? We all had to give up at once? I mean both hockey and tasks. And your joy that you were right and we lost, well, this already says a lot about your extraordinary conceit. You have to be more modest, more modest. This Vaf is addressed to
  12. Nayhas
    Nayhas 19 February 2014 10: 04
    +3
    Hopefully there will come a time when there will be no such news, when the deck pilot, upon hearing such a story, will grin and ask, "So what's the catch? 100 landings per day? No? For how many years?"
  13. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 19 February 2014 10: 13
    +2
    In flight business as in scuba diving, the main thing is that the number of take-offs is equal to the number of landings. Congratulations, Clear Skies!
  14. Tiamat2702
    Tiamat2702 19 February 2014 10: 25
    +3
    So I doubt that we need aircraft carriers, but ..... I still want to have at least five of them. )))
  15. Tiamat2702
    Tiamat2702 19 February 2014 10: 33
    +1
    And I'm also very sorry that the Su-33 (in old age) on the Kuz are going to be replaced by MiGami. And we won’t have a Su-33 bole (((. Can you come to your senses and think again? Maybe it’s smart enough to make mixed squadrons? Well, heavy fighters on an aircraft carrier are also needed.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 19 February 2014 10: 52
      +1
      Quote: Tiamat2702
      And I'm also very sorry that the Su-33 (in old age) on the Kuz are going to be replaced by MiGami. And we won’t have a Su-33 bole (((. Can you come to your senses and think again? Maybe it’s smart enough to make mixed squadrons? Well, heavy fighters on an aircraft carrier are also needed.

      Su-33 is too heavy for Kuzi. Therefore, the Su-33M was not accepted into service, because it turned out to be even heavier. During the tests, it turned out that when landing the Su-33 deforms the deck. The deck was then strengthened, but still a restriction on the landing mass was introduced. That’s why they don’t fly with weapons and with full refueling ...
      In general, the MiG-29K was originally supposed to be based on Kuzya, but the Sukhoi Design Bureau "through the warehouse manager, through the commodity expert" climbed onto Kuznetsov, promising the sailors manna from heaven in the form of a series of machines based on the Su-33, but as always they threw it ... the missile carrier, and also the strike aircraft, which was the MiG-29K, lost ... the Su-33 in the strike version can only be used as a kamikaze ...
      Now they thought better of it and finally returned the MiG-29K to the deck, but the trouble is, the Kuzi’s power plant is dying before our eyes, the ship no longer gives out more than 5-6 knots, moreover, fuel consumption has increased five times and it doesn’t go without a tanker ... Those. it needs to be immediately capitalized, but the repair deadlines are regularly postponed ....
      1. Professor
        Professor 19 February 2014 11: 01
        0
        Quote: Nayhas
        That’s why they don’t fly with weapons and with full refueling ...

        The fact that they fly unarmed is obvious, but where does the infa about the speed of the ship 5-6 knots come from?
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 19 February 2014 12: 28
          +5
          Quote: Professor
          The fact that they fly unarmed is obvious

          So it’s like we are not fighting with anyone.
          Here is an American, too, with empty pylons on take-off
          1. Professor
            Professor 19 February 2014 12: 34
            +1
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Here is an American, too, with empty pylons on take-off

            Somewhere near Hawaii when for 1000 miles no one was around, but here like Syria pulled up to defend. And in general, I have never seen anyone take off with Kuzi fully armed. request
            1. supertiger21
              supertiger21 19 February 2014 15: 44
              0
              Quote: Professor
              but here like Syria pulled up to defend.


              If you do not like it, then do not throw negative expressions. stop
              1. Professor
                Professor 19 February 2014 15: 47
                +1
                Quote: supertiger21
                If you don’t like it, then do not throw negative expressions

                What are you? I have one positive. That's just what he will protect? (I know, I know - nuclear weapons) winked
                1. supertiger21
                  supertiger21 19 February 2014 17: 46
                  +2
                  Oleg, I’m just saying that you always show a negative about what is connected with the Russian Federation. In your posts I saw repeated praises to the West, but repeated swearing of the whole Russian. Just be objective, just ask. hi
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 19 February 2014 22: 01
                    +1
                    Quote: supertiger21
                    Oleg, I’m just saying that you always show a negative about what is connected with the Russian Federation. In your posts I saw repeated praises to the West, but repeated swearing of the whole Russian. Just be objective, just ask. hi

                    What is the negative? Look at my articles. You will not find any of my articles and not a single anti-Russian translation. And in the comments, I try to be critical of everyone. How much it turns out is not for me to judge. Urpatriotov of all stripes can not stand the spirit.
            2. lelikas
              lelikas 19 February 2014 16: 19
              +8
              Quote: Professor
              And in general, I have never seen anyone take off with Kuzi fully armed.

              Fully armed, it’s unlikely, And so - less trouble and higher security.
            3. TSOOBER
              TSOOBER 19 February 2014 19: 02
              +7
              Well, not quite fully armed but ... wink
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              2. tlauicol
                tlauicol 20 February 2014 07: 55
                0
                this is Mig 29-K at Vikramaditya
          2. dmitrij.blyuz
            dmitrij.blyuz 19 February 2014 22: 38
            +1
            Guys! It seems like in Middle-earth our 33rd pair of missiles on the pylons have U-tube to help you. And the same yesterday. Http://topwar.ru/39983-nebo-nad-sredizemnym-morem-podarilo-ro
            ssii-pyatogo-centuriona.html
          3. Fornit
            Fornit 19 February 2014 23: 16
            0
            Well, this is most likely a stage ... There are pictures where their deck is generally full of cars ...
        2. Nayhas
          Nayhas 19 February 2014 12: 46
          +9
          Quote: Professor
          The fact that they fly unarmed is obvious, but where does the infa about the speed of the ship 5-6 knots come from?

          Nothing complicated.
          Kuznetsov went camping from Severomorsk on December 17, 2013, and on December 29 he took fuel in Mori Firth Bay. Those. he traveled the distance of 1300 (approximately) miles in 12 days. The distance is 1300 miles, the time is 288 hours, we divide and we get a speed of 4,41 knots. He got to Gibraltar only on January 15, having passed 17 miles since December 3700 of last year, according to our Ministry of Defense. The average transition speed was 5 knots.
          October 22, 2013 The heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser Peter the Great left the same base in Severomorsk in the same direction and on November 2 it was already passing Gibraltar. The transition was 10 days, but it should be borne in mind that he had to wait for the storm off the coast of Scotland, how many days he lost on this is not known, maybe a couple of days, or maybe just a day.
          Kuznetsov passed the same distance in 29 days!
          Note that Kuznetsov also fell into the storm, but not big, only 6 points, which for such a ship is nothing, a slight drop in speed.
          I also ask you to note that the first intake of fuel was already made 1300 miles from Severomorsk, despite the fact that according to his passport he had an economic range of 8000 miles. Those. without refueling to Gibraltar and back.
          I have already made a comparison: Nebogatov’s detachment consisting of squadron battleships in 1904. covered the distance from Libava (Baltic Sea) to Marbut (Arabian Peninsula) with an average speed of 8,7 nodes, while coal was re-loaded from the accompanying transport on the way ...
          My statement is that the TAVKR “Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov” does not constitute any value as the warship was repeatedly obstructed because HOW I DID ...
          1. Professor
            Professor 19 February 2014 15: 38
            -3
            Quote: Nayhas
            Nothing complicated.

            Thanks for the interesting layout. I like it. good
            In distant youth, too, had to calculate on the cards how much we get to the emergency submarine ...
            By the way, maybe he walked for a long time because they stopped fishing? Or what kind of shopping is there in Gibraltar? wink
            1. Nayhas
              Nayhas 19 February 2014 17: 21
              -3
              Quote: Professor
              By the way, maybe he walked for a long time because they stopped fishing? Or what kind of shopping is there in Gibraltar?

              On board, journalists who regularly write peppy articles on the net did not write about any stops on the way to Gibraltar, and he had nowhere to go. Any visit to any country would definitely be covered in the media.
          2. lelikas
            lelikas 19 February 2014 16: 17
            +6
            Quote: Nayhas
            Nothing complicated.

            Leaving the house in the morning, I walked 1 km, returning in the evening - the same 1 km, I was gone for 12 hours - the conclusion is that I walk at a speed of 160 meters per hour - everything is simple!

            Although I agree on the rest of the points.
            1. Nayhas
              Nayhas 19 February 2014 17: 05
              +1
              Quote: lelikas
              Leaving the house in the morning, I walked 1 km, returning in the evening - the same 1 km, I was gone for 12 hours - the conclusion is that I walk at a speed of 160 meters per hour - everything is simple!

              Yeah. Only in ships, your gap between these distances (1 + 1km) is called port parking. Kuznetsov never stopped on the road. During the trip to Kuznetsovo there are journalists who regularly describe the trip.
              1. Vilor
                Vilor 19 February 2014 17: 47
                0
                Hello to you with SRZ-35. I will not answer anything to your ingenious logic. You are a specialist in everything.
                1. Nayhas
                  Nayhas 19 February 2014 23: 11
                  +2
                  Quote: Vilor
                  Hello to you with SRZ-35. I will not answer anything to your ingenious logic. You are a specialist in everything.

                  Mutually, you, as always, are excessively ironic. You have not answered me why Kuznetsov (who is in satisfactory condition according to your words) needs to be refueled after 1300 miles when he has autonomy along the way should be 8000 miles. He must go to the Mediterranean Sea and back without refueling. And why the distance that Peter 1 went in 10 days, Kuznetsov walked 30?
                  1. Vilor
                    Vilor 20 February 2014 12: 21
                    0
                    I don’t remember something that I wrote that Kuznetsov would tear everyone, etc. If you read me poorly, I will repeat. The ship, which is twenty-odd years without major repairs, is in fair condition. And the guys also said that for more than five years it would be sooooooo hard with him without capital. I don’t understand you, your OUR planes do not take off, the tanks do not fly, the rockets do not fly, now you don’t believe the same thing in building infrastructure for the Mistral. What do you believe in?
                    1. Nayhas
                      Nayhas 22 February 2014 09: 10
                      0
                      Quote: Vilor
                      I don’t remember something that I wrote that Kuznetsov would tear everyone, etc. If you read me poorly, I will repeat.

                      What do you repeat? Hello with SRZ-35?
                      Quote: Vilor
                      What do you believe in?

                      In the facts.
              2. itkul
                itkul 19 February 2014 18: 39
                +2
                Quote: Nayhas
                Yeah. Only in ships, your gap between these distances (1 + 1km) is called port parking. Kuznetsov never stopped on the road.


                Well, it seems like Kuznetsov is not going alone. And escort ships in the storm need to storm, this is when somewhere near the shore, or in a small bay they anchor, and lay in a drift, waiting for the weather. I think it was the same here.
          3. alone
            alone 19 February 2014 21: 21
            +2
            Quote: Nayhas
            My statement is that the TAVKR “Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov” does not constitute any value as the warship was repeatedly obstructed because HOW I DID ...


            Now you will be declared an enemy of the people and will be required to be shot from a mortar wassat
            1. Vl690006
              Vl690006 19 February 2014 22: 07
              +1
              On the way, during the transition to long distances, we always walked away from the storms. And also we carried out planned firing, the launch of torpedoes and + were supplied.
              Once in the 50s and 60s, the Egyptians from our missile boat sank a rocket of the flagship of the Israeli watchman fleet. The Egyptians sank him without falling into the range of the Israeli frigate. That's what the Americans went wild. He studied on the subject of BSF (military equipment of the fleet 0 at the naval school.
            2. Vl690006
              Vl690006 19 February 2014 22: 07
              +1
              On the way, during the transition to long distances, we always walked away from the storms. And also we carried out planned firing, the launch of torpedoes and + were supplied.
              Once in the 50s and 60s, the Egyptians from our missile boat sank a rocket of the flagship of the Israeli watchman fleet. The Egyptians sank him without falling into the range of the Israeli frigate. That's what the Americans went wild. He studied on the subject of BSF (military equipment of the fleet 0 at the naval school.
            3. Nayhas
              Nayhas 19 February 2014 23: 22
              +1
              Quote: lonely
              Now you will be declared an enemy of the people and will be required to be shot from a mortar

              I'm used to ...
              "I see only one reason for this,
              As simple as a Columbus egg:
              Walking in the stream, you see only the backs,
              Walking towards you, you look everyone in the face ... "
              A. Makarevich
        3. TSOOBER
          TSOOBER 19 February 2014 18: 58
          +1
          as it’s not obvious recourse
        4. TSOOBER
          TSOOBER 19 February 2014 18: 59
          +2
          and so is also not at all obvious tongue
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 19 February 2014 19: 51
            +2
            Quote: TSOOBER
            as it’s not obvious

            In the top photo you have not Su
            1. TSOOBER
              TSOOBER 19 February 2014 20: 51
              +2
              I'm sorry the error came out what
            2. tlauicol
              tlauicol 20 February 2014 07: 59
              +1
              Moreover - in the top photo is not Kuznetsov, but Vikramaditya
        5. Jin
          Jin 19 February 2014 20: 57
          +5
          Quote: Professor
          but where does the infa about the speed of the ship 5-6 knots come from?


          Professor, write posts on the topic, 90 percent or more, I read, I don’t minus, it seems worthy (of course, when this is really so), it doesn’t matter to me that you are from Israel ... But then, before the vulgar "main stream" of Russia, they slipped, I can’t pass by (I’m not a duck). Here is the word "STEAMER" frankly killed ... Go to minus and as far as possible !!! You (well, not you specifically) of course, produce Galilas, Tavors, Merkavas ... oh, yes, the coast guard ships (oh, just I don’t need those details and how important they are to you and whether they are coast guards), to me natsat. The point is that you (Israel) are so helpless against us (Russia) that you wouldn’t have fallen ... already ... this is nasty "STEAMER", all my good attitude towards you killed ... kindly shave. If you need to take off from the battle, do not hesitate! And, if necessary, we will thrust the fuses into those who are especially smart, into their "technological holes", putting them on a combat platoon.
          Israel has achieved a lot and remains a serious force in the region, well done! One of your leaders told you yourself that you are lucky to be at war with the Arabs! No?
          We are not Arabs ... And do not you boast that we have "STEAMER"which you will not build in the next 150-200 years. And your American friends, even those whores * and fickle. Today is here, and tomorrow with money the trace has caught a cold ...
          No pathos, Professor ... You have gone too far behind the international norms and rules ... To step on you and there will be a hole ... The USSR survived thanks to ... where is the gratitude ...
          1. Jin
            Jin 19 February 2014 21: 14
            +1
            Oh! laughing already "minus 1" slapped ... Nasrallah is on you ... no laughing
            1. Jin
              Jin 19 February 2014 21: 34
              +2
              ABOUT! Already "minus a lot"! laughing And not a single justification ... Well, well, the fate of the wretched ...
              ps This post do not forget minusanut.KARMA IS SPORED! laughing
          2. Professor
            Professor 19 February 2014 22: 25
            +1
            Quote: Jin
            But then, before the vulgar "main stream", the creep of Russia slipped,

            I’ve never run into Russia anywhere.

            Quote: Jin
            Here is the word "STEAMER" frankly killed ...

            Do not get killed like that. Kuzya, like the American aircraft carriers go for a couple, that is STEAMS. In boilers they warm water, get steam and go. Tuuuuu-tuuuuu. The Americans warm the atom, and on the Kuz fuel oil. And if someone tells you that they are not STEAMS, then spit in his face so he is an illiterate kid.

            Quote: Jin
            this disgusting "STEAMER", all my good attitude towards you killed ...

            I will not survive. wassat I repeat: SHIP. I’ll tell you another terrible secret: all American submarines, too STEAMS however, like all Russian atomic ships. They do not run on the "atom", but on steam, since the working fluid (that which turns the turbine) is steam.

            Quote: Jin
            If you need to take off from the battle, do not hesitate!

            And here I doubt it very much. Firstly, a very strong headwind is needed. Secondly, the springboard does not like jokes and the landing gear breaks down despite the nationality.

            Quote: Jin
            And it's not for you to boast that we have a "STEAMER", which you won't build in the next 150-200 years.

            We have motor ships, as they don’t go for a couple. wink

            Quote: Jin
            The USSR survived thanks to ... where gratitude ...

            Are you talking about me personally, about my grandfathers who returned from war with disabilities or about Israel? Who exactly thanks to the USSR? If my grandfathers are the way they saved the USSR. If it was about me that it really survived there, and if about Israel, then the USSR tried very hard that Israel would not be gone, but it seems like it ended.
            1. Vl690006
              Vl690006 19 February 2014 23: 02
              0
              Well, I don’t know what kind of professor you are, but you are in naval affairs. as the movie says. fuel oil. Do not understand anything in marine terminology. There are Large anti-submarine ships (rather than steamboats), missile cruisers (rather than steamboats), a heavy nuclear missile cruiser (rather than an atomic steamer), patrol ships, hovercraft, etc. etc ... Yes, even if they give out steam on coal, but they are SHIPS.
              Both of my grandfathers died in WWII. One in July of the 43rd and was buried in the Lipetsk region, and the second in April of the 44th and was buried in Tiraspol.
              And about the fleet, I repeat once again: in the 60s, the Egyptian RK sank the flagship of the Israeli fleet with a cruise missile, without even entering the zone of destruction of the Israeli guard. It was then that the Americans became fucked up, because they had not seen such a thing. I learned this in the lesson Navy Combat Facilities at a naval school. Allah Akbar, because I am a Russian Muslim.
              1. Professor
                Professor 19 February 2014 23: 25
                -1
                Quote: Vl690006
                Well, I don’t know what kind of professor you are, but you are in naval affairs. as the movie says. fuel oil.

                Where am I going? I didn’t reach the admiral. Nevertheless, the steamer (goes for a couple or if you want the working medium of a steam is working media steam) it is also a steamer in Africa.

                Quote: Vl690006
                Yes, even if they give out steam on coal, but they are SHIPS.

                ... and among the SHIP ships come across. Do not worry, UTZ-Mashproekt also needs to live like that. Yes, and the advantages of the ship also take away.

                Quote: Vl690006
                Both of my grandfathers died in WWII. One in July of the 43rd and was buried in the Lipetsk region, and the second in April of the 44th and was buried in Tiraspol.

                Eternal memory and glory to your grandfathers, but how do they relate to steamboats?

                Quote: Vl690006
                And about the fleet, I repeat once again: in the 60s, the Egyptian RK sank the flagship of the Israeli fleet with a cruise missile, without even entering the zone of destruction of the Israeli guard. It was then that the Americans became fucked up, because they had not seen such a thing. I learned this in the lesson Navy Combat Facilities at a naval school.

                We were also taught different bikes on this course. Why, they taught us that at the academy. I especially liked the fact that the Israelis allegedly even managed to fire at the KR from the cruiser Eilat ... And the story of the Israelis using helicopters to imitate ships and how the helicopters sharply gained altitude and the KR lost their target is simply a bestseller. Eilat, of course, was sunk, they even fired at the sailors who were afloat, but the rest of the stories, including "the Americans are crazy."

                Quote: Vl690006
                Allah Akbar, because I am a Russian Muslim.

                For me, at least an African American, the main thing is that he would pay taxes.
                1. Vl690006
                  Vl690006 19 February 2014 23: 32
                  +1
                  And for me they are all blacks. We were taught that way at school.
                2. Vl690006
                  Vl690006 19 February 2014 23: 32
                  0
                  And for me they are all blacks. We were taught that way at school.
            2. Jin
              Jin 19 February 2014 23: 20
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              Do not get killed like that. Kuzya, like the American aircraft carriers, is steaming — that is, STEAM PACKS. In boilers they warm water, get steam and go. Tuuuuu-tuuuuu.


              Yes, I'm not killing me. Believe me smile, that I consider you more likely to be reasonable people than otherwise (otherwise I would not even write to you). Moreover, it does not honor you! When they talk, for example, about Russian nuclear-powered icebreakers, [b] they use the term "nuclear-powered vessel", not "STEAMER" [/ b], don't you agree? And believe me, I understand perfectly well that their propellers (shafts) are not spinning up "enraged quanta from the heart of the reactor" [/ b] Tuuuu-tuuuuu!

              Quote: Professor
              , and if about Israel, then the Soviet Union tried very hard that Israel would not be, but it seems like it ended.


              I do not want to continue this topic, because of the opportunity to "disperse the topic to the wrong steppe" (and I personally have nothing against the Jewish people). I will say one thing. Many sons of Israel (purely a turn of speech, because then this state simply did not exist, as such, but people were), even before its (the state of Israel) formation, made a huge contribution, first to the collapse of the Russian Empire, and only then USSR (to list names, surnames, passwords, appearances, dates, etc., I say right away, I won't! It's stupid) ...
              Sincerely.
              1. Professor
                Professor 19 February 2014 23: 35
                +1
                Quote: Jin
                use the term "nuclear-powered"

                It's just cooler. This is a type of "milking machine operator", not some kind of "milkmaid".
                Nevertheless, even the most sophisticated and most modern American aircraft carrier George W. Bush is a steamboat.

                Quote: Jin
                Many sons of Israel

                Contributed so contributed. Neither did they make a revolution. Well, the USSR didn’t need to be destroyed either; it itself was blown away like a balloon, self-destructed.
                1. Jin
                  Jin 19 February 2014 23: 54
                  0
                  Quote: Professor
                  Contributed so contributed. Neither did they make a revolution. Well, the USSR didn’t need to be destroyed either; it itself was blown away like a balloon, self-destructed.


                  It's stupid to argue here, the USSR had no chance of survival ... period. And the point is not in the "sons of Israel", but in ... that leadership of this great country. Less on the Central Committee of the CPSU and all sorts of ANNIVERSARIES and events timed to coincide with them, it was necessary to make deviations, and to look at the real state of the economy. Although what kind of economy? There were no such institutions ... except for one: "The economy must be economical" ... pearl, for all times and peoples ... eh-heh sad

                  Quote: Professor
                  It's just cooler. This is a type of "milking machine operator", not some kind of "milkmaid".

                  Nevertheless, things need to be called by their proper names (just do not be ironic that you are doing this), this is what "bites". And on purpose, the main thing was written, that's what catches ... why?
          3. Not a patriot RU
            Not a patriot RU 19 February 2014 23: 06
            +1
            Professor, you write posts on the topic, more than 90 percent, I read, I don’t minus, it seems worthy (of course when it’s really so), it doesn’t matter to me that you are from Israel ... But then to the vulgar "main stream" Russia’s crumpled up, I can’t pass by (I’m not a uryakakolka). Here is the word "STEAMER" frankly killed ... Go to the minus and as far as possible !!! You (well, not you specifically), of course, produce Galila, Tavora, Merkava ... oh, yes, coast guard ships (oh, just don't need those details and how important they are for you and whether they are coast guard), to me nitsat. The point is that you (Israel) are so helpless against us (Russia) that you wouldn’t have yowled ... this disgusting "STEAMER", all my good attitude towards you killed ... if you please shave. If you need to take off from combat, do not hesitate! And, if necessary, we will thrust fuses into those who are especially smart, into their "technological holes", putting them on the alert.
            Israel has achieved a lot and remains a serious force in the region, well done! One of your leaders told you yourself that you are lucky to be at war with the Arabs! No?
            We are not Arabs ... And it is not for you to boast that we have a "STEAMER", which you will not build in the next 150-200 years. And your American friends, those whores * and fickle. Here today, and tomorrow the money is gone ...
            No pathos, Professor ... You have gone too far behind the international norms and rules ... To step on you and there will be a hole ... The USSR survived thanks to ... where is the gratitude ...

            How much hatred and puffiness in you ... Apparently vernacular vocabulary (or simplified terminology) and jokes your mind is not able to perceive. You can vehemently minus and get angry, but I would advise you to go to our beautiful nature and breathe in the fresh frosty air. I assure you that he will endure all the nonsense from Bosko.
            1. Jin
              Jin 19 February 2014 23: 42
              0
              Quote: Not a patriot RU
              How much hatred and puffiness in you ... Apparently vernacular vocabulary (or simplified terminology) and jokes your mind is not able to perceive. You can vehemently minus and get angry, but I would advise you to go to our beautiful nature and breathe in the fresh frosty air. I assure you that he will endure all the nonsense from Bosko.


              Maybe, of course, you're right about mine "heads and fools", but at the expense of arrogance, something did not truncate ... as my grandfather said (father-father, I mean, and not on the military topic). I wonder where my such frantic evil and minus have you seen? Is it not in the snare of your mind? But at the expense of my mind: "Do not judge and you will not be judged" ... Or are you such a subtle psychologist that from the first commentary "you saw the truth"? Without knowing the person, like this, from the first post to draw conclusions ... I could still understand if there was my handwriting, which for those who know is an open book of knowledge of another person ... but no, alas! And so many conclusions, tips. I would also advise you where to go or go, but there is one rule of good form: "Don't give advice when you're not asked to."
      2. max702
        max702 19 February 2014 11: 41
        +4
        It’s like the task of an aircraft carrier is not striking forces, but to be a carrier of fighters to cover the fleet from enemy aircraft in the first place. Therefore, dryers are much more preferable to MIGs in this matter, they talked more than once with pilots from a Cuban team and they were very skeptical about the fighting qualities of MIGs by compared with Sushki, but the fact that they fly without weapons .. I don’t know everything can be .. but then the point is in an aircraft carrier7 Like a training ground? To practice flights? The same thing is necessary, no simulator can replace real classes.
        1. Professor
          Professor 19 February 2014 12: 03
          +2
          Quote: max702
          but then the point is in an aircraft carrier

          flag show
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 19 February 2014 14: 56
            0
            The best flag demonstration is: https://www.tailhook.net/GrandClub.html
          2. Jin
            Jin 19 February 2014 21: 12
            0
            Quote: Professor
            flag show


            Well, yes, and aviation on board! What, unpleasant? Andreevsky’s flag is a demonstration, well, you don’t understand, you don’t have a fleet either, as well as the history of the fleet and there’s nothing to demonstrate, you just have to let the bile out (oh, I already foresee: "and you have what it is! so and so!" Well, well ...). Do you have something to demonstrate on the oceans? Generally zero without a stick ...
            1. Professor
              Professor 19 February 2014 22: 32
              -1
              Quote: Jin
              Well, yes, and aviation on board! What, unpleasant?

              Monopenisual. request
              Meetings of the "Russian clan"
              “We approached him carefully,” Falk continues, “being prepared for any surprise, including air combat, so I instructed my partner to activate the weapon system. As we got closer, I saw that the plane was not carrying air-to-air missiles or any other weaponry.

              Quote: Jin
              Andreevsky’s flag is a demonstration, well, you don’t understand, you don’t have a fleet either, as well as the history of the fleet and there’s nothing to demonstrate, you just have to let the bile out

              Which fleet did you serve yourself? I am in the Black Sea Red Banner Fleet. I do not know much about flags.
              1. Jin
                Jin 19 February 2014 23: 24
                0
                Quote: Professor
                Which fleet did you serve yourself?


                I'm not naval, where did you get that? It's not about that at all.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 19 February 2014 23: 41
                  +1
                  Quote: Jin
                  I'm not naval, where did you get that? It's not about that at all.

                  And I'm navy. And nobody took offense at our word about the steamer. When I was on the "Paris Commune" the crew also called her a steamer, moreover respectfully and affectionately.
                  1. Vl690006
                    Vl690006 19 February 2014 23: 52
                    0
                    And I am also a naval and even now. Ships are mainly divided by purpose. and only then on the movers. And now I work as a captain of a motor ship. And the "Paris Commune" was really a passenger steamer as part of the VORP
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 19 February 2014 23: 58
                      +1
                      Quote: Vl690006
                      Vessels are generally divided by purpose. and then on the movers. And now I work as the captain of the ship.

                      "By appointment" and "motor ship" are a paradigm of the second kind. wassat

                      Quote: Vl690006
                      And the "Paris Commune" was really a passenger steamer as part of the VORP

                      Passenger? recourse
                  2. Vl690006
                    Vl690006 19 February 2014 23: 52
                    -1
                    And I am also a naval and even now. Ships are mainly divided by purpose. and only then on the movers. And now I work as a captain of a motor ship. And the "Paris Commune" was really a passenger steamer as part of the VORP
                  3. Jin
                    Jin 20 February 2014 00: 15
                    0
                    Quote: Professor
                    And I'm navy. And nobody took offense at our word about the steamer. When I was on the "Paris Commune" the crew also called her a steamer, moreover respectfully and affectionately.


                    I'm not talking about resentment, really! But, to call ships of this class, "steamers"! The essence is clear, but then, in general, confusion will turn out to be insanity in terminology, classification - a step ...
                    Want to be honest? Purely my opinion. When a person wants to point to something that emphasizes, let's say greatness (it’s not important, excellence), he writes, and subconsciously, about it ... and vice versa, if you want to emphasize wretchedness (some flaw, flaw), the person writes too but vice versa (I’ll take your example with by steamboat) ... Or am I wrong? Again!!! I have been reading your comments for a long time, you are not a stupid person, far away, let’s finish already ...
                    D * the fool will not understand, the clever will remain silent.

                    belay What about the word "d * urak"? Ban? And if a quote? what
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 20 February 2014 12: 56
                      +1
                      Quote: Jin
                      and vice versa, if you want to emphasize wretchedness (some flaw, flaw), a person writes too, but vice versa (I’ll take your example with a ship) ...

                      My thoughts were not to belittle the heavy aircraft carrier Kuznetsov. His visit many years ago left the strongest impression. Steamboats I call all ships on a steam train including aircraft carrier George W. Bush. hi

                      Quote: Jin
                      I have been reading your comments for a long time, you are not a stupid person, far away, and let's finish already ...

                      I think the incident is exhausted.
                      1. Jin
                        Jin 20 February 2014 12: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: Professor
                        I think the incident is exhausted.


                        Mutually hi
                      2. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 20 February 2014 13: 05
                        +1
                        Ay well done good drinks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    2. dmitrij.blyuz
                      dmitrij.blyuz 20 February 2014 16: 29
                      0
                      Cool! "George Bush" - for a couple. So this is not news! hi
            2. Alex 241
              Alex 241 19 February 2014 23: 38
              +4
              Oleg, if you are naval, you know that sometimes they say goodbye to ships more sentimentally than to people, but also to airplanes. And it all depends on what you mean by a steamboat. I would be corrupted if my plane was called a piece of iron. I’ll tell you a little case. Every February 23, if possible, we gather at the Museum of the Armed Forces. Well, and once again, while they were waiting for the guys decided to go around the exposition. And then one of us rushes to the Su-15tm and crawls under the right plane. Then, with a trembling voice, it says: Guys, this is mine the plane. He hugged him and cried. We slowly turned around and left.
              1. Professor
                Professor 19 February 2014 23: 45
                +2
                Quote: Alex 241
                Oleg, if you are a naval officer, you know that sometimes they say goodbye to ships more sentimentally than to people, but also to airplanes.

                Traditions and superstitions should not be occupied either in aviation or in the navy. Board number 13 or Kubrick number 13 for example ...
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 20 February 2014 00: 03
                  +1
                  Oleg "13" was not onboard.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 20 February 2014 12: 51
                    0
                    Quote: Alex 241
                    Oleg "13" was not onboard.

                    Duc and I about it !!!
                    1. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 20 February 2014 12: 55
                      0
                      Hi Oleg. Just like you had a bad omen on stepping into coaming.
                    2. Professor
                      Professor 20 February 2014 13: 06
                      +1
                      Quote: Alex 241
                      Just like you had a bad omen on stepping off coaming.

                      I think that the fleet will accept more than in aviation since the fleet is older than thousands by 5 years. But aviators are trying to catch up.
                    3. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 20 February 2014 13: 15
                      +2
                      Through clenched teeth, spitting wax and blood, Icarus said covering his eyelids, may there be troops in this form, a mess now and forever laughing
                    4. Jin
                      Jin 20 February 2014 13: 44
                      0
                      Quote: Alex 241
                      Through clenched teeth, spitting wax and blood, Icarus said covering his eyelids, may there be troops in this form, a mess now and forever


                      laughing did not hear ... good
                    5. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 20 February 2014 13: 47
                      0
                      When God put things in order on earth, aviation was in the air, and when in heaven there was bad weather. Aviator's dream: That a big plane would fly in, eat all the little ones, and then die laughing
                    6. dmitrij.blyuz
                      dmitrij.blyuz 20 February 2014 16: 32
                      +1
                      The motto of aviation! laughing hi
      3. Jin
        Jin 20 February 2014 00: 44
        +1
        Quote: Alex 241
        Oleg, if you are naval, you know that sometimes they say goodbye to ships more sentimentally than to people, but also to airplanes. And it all depends on what you put in the word steamboat. I would be corrupted if my plane was called a piece of iron.


        Here, San and "the dog is buried". Somehow I didn't want to poke anyone into some of his personal "vulnerable spots", well, or not into personal and invulnerable ones, but if an airplane is called an airplane and not an airplane (and after all, it "airplanes", regardless of engine thrust ), then call the same one familiar to the Professor (Oleg, as I understand it, his name, my name is Zhenya, nice to meet you, Oleg) F-16, 15, 18 by an airplane, it will be somehow wild .. Is it okay to call Kuzya a steamer?
        That is, with nuclear carrier steamboat USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72), in the Persian Gulf, monoplane jet airplanes take off Boeing F / A-18E / F Super Hornet ... Ground operation took place with the participation of helicopter rotorcraft AH-64D Apache Longbow Block III ... FIG knows, in my opinion, some kind of nonsense ...

        Although that's all true, of course ... In short, call a spade a spade drinks
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 20 February 2014 01: 17
          +3
          My traditional! drinks
  • Vl690006
    Vl690006 19 February 2014 22: 31
    +1
    We have no aircraft carriers and there were none. And there are heavy aircraft-carrying cruisers. (In my Pr1144) They planned to place 12 anti-submarine helicopters, 2 rescue and (in my opinion) 18 aircraft. They walked without a convoy and closed the front 300 miles on their own. Amers in the aircraft carrier group have several guard ships, a cover submarine and supply vessels. If one missile torpedo hits with a small nuclear charge, all the kirdyk.
    Israel keeps track of passing ships to a safe distance of 200 miles.
    I hope they understood the hint.
    Ukraine has already offered to buy from them RK "Ukraine", which is on a long-term construction in Nikolaev. Why do we need old stuff. Glory to Allah, we are building new ones.
  • Vl690006
    Vl690006 19 February 2014 22: 31
    0
    We have no aircraft carriers and there were none. And there are heavy aircraft-carrying cruisers. (In my Pr1144) They planned to place 12 anti-submarine helicopters, 2 rescue and (in my opinion) 18 aircraft. They walked without a convoy and closed the front 300 miles on their own. Amers in the aircraft carrier group have several guard ships, a cover submarine and supply vessels. If one missile torpedo hits with a small nuclear charge, all the kirdyk.
    Israel keeps track of passing ships to a safe distance of 200 miles.
    I hope they understood the hint.
    Ukraine has already offered to buy from them RK "Ukraine", which is on a long-term construction in Nikolaev. Why do we need old stuff. Glory to Allah, we are building new ones.
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 19 February 2014 12: 30
    -3
    Quote: Nayhas
    Su-33 in the shock version can only be used as a kamikaze ...

    If you do not take into account RCC Mosquito
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 19 February 2014 12: 51
      +7
      Quote: saturn.mmm
      If you do not take into account RCC Mosquito

      Su-33 never lifted anti-ship missile Rocket Moskit. Not to mention the fact that he could never take off from the deck with him.
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 19 February 2014 20: 32
        +2
        Quote: Nayhas
        Su-33 never lifted anti-ship missile Rocket Moskit.

        I won’t argue about the deck, but what prevents him from taking off from the airfield with this missile? The VAF once claimed that it was flying a Su-33 with a Mosquito.
        1. VAF
          VAF 19 February 2014 21: 11
          +2
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          The VAF once claimed that it was flying a Su-33 with a Mosquito.


          He flew, but not with a Mosquito, but with a weight-and-size model and flew only on tests and from the ground.
          everything ended with this business ... because. constructively Mosquito cannot "fly" from the "air" crying
  • Mazadrive
    Mazadrive 19 February 2014 15: 09
    0
    Those. the Chinese have the same problems with copies of our Sukhoi on the Varangian ....?
  • Fornit
    Fornit 19 February 2014 23: 15
    0
    "Ushakov" donor - CITO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We will not flog the fever, but so that by next winter everything will be done !!!!!
  • denson06
    denson06 19 February 2014 10: 37
    0
    Quote: Fin
    Quote: rubin6286
    Borea or Ashen, to get into the Mediterranean Sea, you need to go through Gibraltar, and to do this quietly impossible.

    Borean is a strategist, he has nothing to do there, Ash is one in trial operation. Pass Gibraltar under the large ships.

    Absolutely agree. Ash alone for now. We are satisfied with the Varshavyanks, perhaps. Regarding the passage of Gibraltar - there really is one option.
    1. plotnikov561956
      plotnikov561956 19 February 2014 11: 38
      0
      multipurpose nuclear submarines 671 of the project ... a great option in the retinue of protection ... no need to guess ...
      1. skiff-xnumx
        skiff-xnumx 19 February 2014 19: 27
        0
        671 project is unlikely. Are there still living Ruffs? But 971 project is quite possible.
  • cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 19 February 2014 10: 43
    +1
    Rather, the "Thread" in Yeisk would be handed over, but they began to prepare more young people, Otherwise, we still have Kuzya and many pilots on it cannot be trained, at least burst. Well, thank God at least there will be experienced instructors in our deck. good
  • moremansf
    moremansf 19 February 2014 10: 48
    +14
    All of them are students and followers of the Hero of Russia, Major General Apakidze Timur Avtondilovich, commander of the 56 SCAD, and later the deputy commander of the Navy aviation, who died tragically during the flight on the SU-27 ... Thanks to him, after the collapse of the USSR, the Navy carrier-based aviation was preserved and exists until so far!!!
    1. 123dv
      123dv 19 February 2014 13: 44
      +3
      ... Our dead will not leave us in trouble.
      Our fallen, like sentries! ...
    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 19 February 2014 21: 31
      +1
      Quote: moremansf
      whether the Hero of Russia, Major General Apakidze Timur Avtondilovich, commander of 56 SCAD, and in

      Major General Timur Apakidze was truly a hero of the Russian Federation !!!
      born in Georgia in 1954, died in 2001 (((

  • Vl690006
    Vl690006 19 February 2014 11: 42
    +6
    It is a sin to call warships steamboats. They are always ships. For the passage of straits use the shadows of large vessels, because on the bottom of the straits lay cables that mark the passage of shadows from above, but do not distinguish the distance to it. And so the submarine hid behind a large container ship or tanker and passed. And TAKR Kuznetsov with a speed of 5-6 knots could go only during the production of sorties. At the time, the BS-ke was spinning for several months near the Tsushima Strait at the time. And every day I determined the transparency of the water using the lot and some other forecasts and coded with my code. Then they transferred it to the headquarters in Vladik. After that, the ship, after arriving at the base, became the best ship of the coastal flotilla, and the navigational unit became the best in the 202nd brigade of the PK. Lieutenant Sologub Sergey Lvovich was given early aging.
    1. Professor
      Professor 19 February 2014 12: 05
      -1
      Quote: Vl690006
      It is a sin to call warships steamboats.

      There are different. Here Kuzya is a steamboat - boilers, water, steam pressure, etc. American ships too.
      1. Vl690006
        Vl690006 19 February 2014 23: 16
        +1
        Boilers, water, steam pressure, etc. -This is called a central heating system. But in Israel it is not there and you could forget it. It happens.
        1. Professor
          Professor 19 February 2014 23: 28
          +1
          Quote: Vl690006
          Boilers, water, steam pressure, etc. -This is called a central heating system. But in Israel it is not there and you could forget it. It happens.

          Wow. Well, enlighten how the Kuzi SEU works. Is it possible without boilers (by the way with asbestos), water, steam pressure and then on. wink
      2. Vl690006
        Vl690006 19 February 2014 23: 16
        +1
        Boilers, water, steam pressure, etc. -This is called a central heating system. But in Israel it is not there and you could forget it. It happens.
      3. Jin
        Jin 20 February 2014 01: 02
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        There are different. Here Kuzya is a steamboat - boilers, water, steam pressure, etc. American ships too.


        Colleagues, but for what is the minus to the Professor? We went up the thread this topic up there ... Essentially right (at the expense of the ship) Professor, but I did not agree with him if the term was applied to Kuza smile, and so, in fairness, what is he wrong in? In short, see for yourself ... preferably objectively.
    2. Alex 241
      Alex 241 19 February 2014 16: 29
      +1
      Quote: Vl690006
      It is a sin to call warships steamboats.

      This is a slang expression among sailors. So it's okay.
      1. VAF
        VAF 19 February 2014 20: 36
        -1
        Quote: Alex 241
        This is a slang expression among sailors. So it's okay.


        Sanya, hello! Well, sailors in this regard are "touchy" they have a steamer and a ship is sacred .... do you remember how there was an anecdote about that. like, I'm a Nazi muzzle, pronounced the hohlyatsky words fat wassat ..by leaving laughing
        A ra'port or report ' wassat

        This is with us, with our aviation humor, everything goes away ... just think there was a ship and there was a ship commander ... and now a ship and an aircraft commander became ... so ours were quickly renamed into ship'no drinks

        And nothing ... we laugh and continue to serve soldier
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 19 February 2014 20: 44
          +1
          Quote: vaf
          aircraft commander

          Hi Seryozha, in the hospital ward: ............. And we are all captains here, we each have a ship. laughingBut seriously, I had a friend Sazhin Yura, a caperang, the kingdom of heaven to him, burned down from pneumonia in a week. So he only called his ship a "steamer", but this word showed such respect!
    3. lelikas
      lelikas 19 February 2014 16: 45
      +1
      Quote: Vl690006
      It is a sin to call warships steamboats.

      With cuckoo? The same boat is driven by a turbine that rotates steam - pure steamboat!
      The professor is also right.
      1. Vl690006
        Vl690006 19 February 2014 17: 38
        +1
        I actually served in the navy and now I work as the captain of the river-sea motor ship. In terminology, this is a ship. I remember that in 2007 they came to Astrakhan from Sevastopol. We asked the dispatcher, "Where to go." They said, "To the side of the barge below the MAP (Maritime Administration of the Port)" For a long time, they searched the barge at the pier with binoculars. I then asked the dispatcher, "Does this barge have a name?" "Yes," said the dispatcher. As a result, it turned out that this is a cargo ship, the barge is towed and pushed by pushers, and the motor ships go independently.
        So this is naval terminology.
      2. Vl690006
        Vl690006 19 February 2014 17: 38
        0
        I actually served in the navy and now I work as the captain of the river-sea motor ship. In terminology, this is a ship. I remember that in 2007 they came to Astrakhan from Sevastopol. We asked the dispatcher, "Where to go." They said, "To the side of the barge below the MAP (Maritime Administration of the Port)" For a long time, they searched the barge at the pier with binoculars. I then asked the dispatcher, "Does this barge have a name?" "Yes," said the dispatcher. As a result, it turned out that this is a cargo ship, the barge is towed and pushed by pushers, and the motor ships go independently.
        So this is naval terminology.
    4. VAF
      VAF 19 February 2014 20: 22
      +1
      Quote: Vl690006
      And TAKR Kuznetsov with a speed of 5-6 knots could go only during the production of sorties.


      When flying from the deck, the ship takes a course upwind and picks up maximum speed. thereby "facilitating" the procedure for taking off from the deck, and even more so on our. without an ejection ship soldier
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 19 February 2014 21: 20
        +1
        Quote: vaf
        When flying from the deck, the ship is heading against the wind and gaining maximum speed

        VAF hi
        and night flights, in a storm 3-4 points fly ???
        most importantly, night flights and night refueling, practiced ???
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 19 February 2014 21: 29
          +2
          In the video, the excitement of 4 points, estimate the vertical vibrations of the flight deck.
      2. Vl690006
        Vl690006 19 February 2014 23: 42
        0
        And I saw how the planes took off from the TAKR "Minsk" on the roadstead near the Putyatin island in the Peter the Great Gulf
      3. Vl690006
        Vl690006 19 February 2014 23: 42
        0
        And I saw how the planes took off from the TAKR "Minsk" on the roadstead near the Putyatin island in the Peter the Great Gulf
      4. Witold
        Witold 20 February 2014 01: 01
        0
        What is still no steam at least catapults?
      5. Witold
        Witold 20 February 2014 01: 01
        0
        What is still no steam at least catapults?
  • Duke
    Duke 19 February 2014 13: 19
    +2
    Timur Avtandilovich Apakidze Deputy Commander of Aviation, Russian Navy (2000)

    He died on July 17, 2001 during demonstration performances at the celebration in honor of the 85th anniversary of naval aviation at the Center for Combat Training and Retraining of the Naval Aviation Command near Pskov. Having completed all aerobatics, Apakidze went in for landing when his plane, located several kilometers from the runway, "behaved unstable." After a report on this to the flight control center, the pilot received a command to eject. However, Apakidze decided not to catapult and remained in the pilot's cabin until the plane hit the ground and exploded, trying to save the plane.
    He was buried in Moscow at the Troekurovsky cemetery.
    Everlasting memory.
  • tinibar
    tinibar 19 February 2014 13: 46
    +4
    We are proud of you
  • Evkur
    Evkur 19 February 2014 16: 30
    +1
    Apakidze Timur - we remember and are proud of you! Ah sorry did not survive to this day, the news is a balm on the heart.
  • Klim2011
    Klim2011 19 February 2014 18: 11
    +1
    Great news!
    And about the comments of the members of the forum about the shortcomings of the current state of the Fleet - As Peter the Great said, "rejoice in the little, and the big will come"
    The current dynamics is a clear confirmation of this.
    1. clidon
      clidon 19 February 2014 20: 45
      0
      So this is a big thing - they can't put it all for repairs ... But how they put it so small will again be on "Thread", half a dozen "centurions" will chew it until they retire. It looks more like a near-political farce to be honest.
  • Good_Taxist
    Good_Taxist 19 February 2014 19: 04
    +1
    - Attention, landing!

    Little BIG Victories!
  • So_o_tozh
    So_o_tozh 19 February 2014 21: 40
    0
    And I liked the faces of pilots and sailors, the faces of real warriors, God grant us more than that to defend the country.
  • DMB87
    DMB87 19 February 2014 21: 46
    +2
    "Stars" plot:

  • Strong
    Strong 19 February 2014 22: 50
    0
    https://www.tailhook.net/GrandClub.html
  • Ruslan
    Ruslan 20 February 2014 02: 40
    0
    I do not know. although glad for the pilot, for me the news of dubious joy. for more than twenty years, only 5 centurions. and this with such a small number of pilots. he is already a lieutenant colonel, and the hundredth landing has just been done. Of course it’s not the pilots' fault, it’s just a pity that so few pilots fly that they don’t stuff the centurions, for example, to captain or major stars.
  • ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 20 February 2014 02: 45
    0
    Glory to the pilots of Russia! And a low bow to the designers that we are still able to be on the level.