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Ukraine: dead and wounded, east and west

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Yesterday evening, the head of the Security Service of Ukraine, Alexander Yakimenko, and the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Vitaly Zakharchenko, called on the opposition to end the unrest before 18: 00. Otherwise, the security forces promised to “restore order by all means provided by law”, reports Interfax. In 18: 27, the Minister of Justice of Ukraine, a member of the working group on resolving the political crisis, Elena Lukash, accused the opposition of violating the agreements and called for an end to the armed resistance. Meanwhile, the police oppressed the protesters to the Maidan Nezalezhnosti. Kiev metro was closed to traffic. Later, in the early morning, it became known that the Kiev Metro will not work on Wednesday. The city hall said that the work of the subway was interrupted due to the threat of terrorist attack.

Also yesterday evening, the Party of Regions accused the opposition of using firearms weapons. “I want to officially declare that the radical elements that came with the so-called peaceful demonstrators had firearms in their hands, which they used,” said the leader of the Party of Regions faction in the Verkhovna Rada, Alexander Efremov.

In 19: 41, it became known that the All-Ukrainian Union Svoboda through Twitter announced a "general mobilization of Ukrainians." And the head of the Batkivshchyna faction Arseniy Yatsenyuk, speaking on the Maidan, called on the Ukrainians "not to be afraid and come to Maidan."

In 21: 05, the Supreme Council of Crimea called on President Yanukovych for "emergency measures." According to the presidium, a civil war has begun in the country.

In 22: 13 police approached the Maidan. The security forces used water cannons against the protesters. On the square - several strong fires.

In 22: 50, the police, through megaphones, asked women and children to leave the Maidan, where an “antiterrorist operation” would take place. In 23: 03 on euromaidan, according to Interfax, positional battles were already underway. Berkut used water cannons and stun grenades against demonstrators, they responded with incendiary bottles and stones.

During the clashes, according to official figures, at least seven police officers and eleven opposition members were killed. In addition, it was reported about the two dead employees of the Kiev office of the Party of Regions. Hundreds of people injured, notes "Lenta.ru".

According to UNIAN, the deputy head of “Batkivshchyna”, Oleksandr Turchynov, was wounded by a fragment on the stage on the Maidan on the night of February 19.

"Vesti" referring to Interfax, February 18 reported that extremists shot two policemen from a Makarov pistol and a Kalashnikov assault rifle. Law enforcement officers freed the Grushevsky street and the European Square from the radicals and began to dismantle the barricades. Over the center of the city flew military aircraft. Prosecutor General Viktor Pshonka reported that about a hundred people suffered during the pogroms 18.

Local people are protected from extremists with foam.

Among those injured are about 20 journalists writing "Vesti".

Six men attacked photojournalist Maxim Trebukhov on Lipskaya Street near the central office of the ruling Party of Regions. The photographer was beaten on the face and head, and his nose was broken. He said this himself: “They were a 6 man. I shot. They pounced on me and started hitting me - on the head, on the face, the body, fortunately, was protected by a bulletproof vest. Doctors say that my nose is broken, so now I will go to the hospital. ”

On the night of February 19, firemen rescued thirty people from the burning House of Trade Unions in the center of Kiev. This is reported on the official website of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Ukraine. The search for people continues, said the agency. Told about it "Lenta.ru".

The first fire units arrived at the scene near 1: 30 local time. At this time in the House of Trade Unions the floors from the third to the ninth burned.

Now about eighty firefighters work at the scene. Involved 14 units of equipment.

There was no official information about the causes of the fire in the House of Trade Unions, controlled by the opposition.

Deputies from the Party of Regions appealed to the world community to give an appropriate assessment of the pressure on the “regionals” and their family members from radical protesters, reports Newsru.com with reference to Interfax.

“We appeal to you to stand up for the defense of democracy, free expression of will and the right of people to form political parties. The need for such protection is dictated by the extreme activation of right-wing neo-Nazi forces in Ukraine. Earlier, the arsenal of their methods included slander, harassment and intimidation of the families of activists of the Party of Regions, but now there are facts of arson of houses, party offices, members of the Party of Regions and their relatives are threatened with physical violence, ”the Party of Regions’s press service said. Wednesday night.

It is also noted in the appeal: “Thus, the people's deputy Yaroslav Sukhoi, who was in the hospital, was forcibly taken from the hospital ward. They also used force against his sick wife and, threatening with murder, forced to write a statement of withdrawal from the Party of Regions. And these are not isolated cases.

On February 18, extremists attacked the central office of the Party of Regions in Kiev and set it on fire. Two workers died. Women who, trying to escape, tried to leave the office, the attacking radicals beat them with batons, mocked them physically and mentally. Three employees were brutally beaten and taken hostage. All these actions are covered with slogans of the struggle for democracy and European integration. ”

“We urge you, dear friends and colleagues, to give an appropriate assessment of such manifestations of radicalism and intolerance in Ukraine so that tolerance of violence does not lead to an irreparable - revival of Nazism in the center of Europe,” the report said.

The appeal is addressed to international human rights organizations, foreign embassies, foreign institutions of state power.

Last night, US Vice President Joe Biden called Viktor Yanukovych and demanded that he immediately start a dialogue with the opposition, as well as withdraw the police from the streets of Kiev, reports "RT" with reference to the RIA "News».

"The Vice-President reiterated the urgent need for an immediate dialogue with opposition leaders to respond to the legitimate concerns of the protesters and develop serious proposals for political reform," the vice-president’s office said in a statement.

Meanwhile, the representative of the European Commission, Stefan Fule, said that “Acting Prime Minister of Ukraine Serhiy Arbuzov assured the European side that the police would not use weapons against peaceful demonstrators,” reports "RT" with reference to ITAR-TASS.

The TV channel recalls that NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton and European Parliament President Martin Schulz previously condemned the new outbreak of violence in Ukraine, noting, in particular, the “unacceptability of methods” that protesters seized administrative buildings. Germany does not exclude the possibility of imposing sanctions on individuals in Ukraine in connection with the escalation of tension and violence. This was stated by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.

Other Europeans also spoke out.

As the "RT", Canadian Foreign Minister John Baird advised "all parties in the current crisis situation in Ukraine to show restraint and immediately stop the violent actions."

“I was shocked by the renewed violence and death in Kiev,” he said. “No act of violence will go unnoticed by the Government of Canada, and we, together with our allies in the international community, will ensure that those responsible are brought to justice.”

The presidents of Lithuania and Estonia Dalia Grybauskaite and Toomas Hendrik Ilves called on to stop the confrontation in Kiev.

“Both sides of the conflict in the center of Kiev should stop. Every new step leads to new acts of violence and victims. Those who care about the lives of their fellow citizens in Ukraine, who are worried about the future of their state, must find a solution to the crisis without the use of weapons and incendiary bottles, ”Ilves quotes BNS.

“I am shocked by the terrible news from Kiev and strongly condemn the brutal violence,” the Lithuanian head wrote on Twitter.

Kiev authorities are trying to restore some order in the city.

Chairman of the Kyiv City State Administration Volodymyr Makeyenko called on commercial structures to declare February 19 a day off, reports "RT" with reference to the site office.

“I call on all commercial institutions and private enterprises, whose offices are located in the central districts of Kiev (Shevchenko, Pechersky, partially Podolsky and Goloseevsky) so to organize the work schedule so that February 19 2014 either became a day off or turned into a day when the work will be the minimum number of employees ", - are shown on the website of the administration words Makeenko.

In connection with the suspension of the Kiev Metro, the ground public transport of the Ukrainian capital will operate in an enhanced mode. This was reported in the press service of the Kiev city administration.

As for the negotiations between the authorities of the country and the opposition, no success was achieved here.

As transmits RIA News", Viktor Yanukovych and the opposition in the negotiations on Wednesday night could not reach an understanding on the situation in Kiev. This was stated by Vitali Klitschko.

According to Klitschko, the president "inadequately responds to the situation." “All that he was talking about was that the opposition leaders urged people on the Maidan to stop the confrontation and lay down their arms,” said the oppositionist.

“I believe that the authorities should immediately withdraw the security forces and stop the bloody confrontation, because people are dying. And I told Yanukovych about it. While blood is being shed, what negotiations can be? But, unfortunately, he does not have an understanding of the situation, ”he added.

Sad news came from the Ukrainian regions.

Several thousand residents of Ivano-Frankivsk on the night of February 19 seized the buildings of the regional departments of the Security Service of Ukraine and the Interior Ministry, reports "Lenta.ru" with reference to Zaxid.Net.

The guards left both buildings and announced their move "to the side of the people." The protesters formed a living corridor through which they let police officers into the street: they were allowed to go home. The head of the regional department of the Interior Ministry, Vasily Felik, went out to the demonstrators and said that he would not carry out “criminal orders” from Kiev and showed the crowd a report on dismissal.

According to the "Franco Times", the staff of the regional "Berkut" was taken out of the building in a row and without weapons. They plunged into the buses and went to their base.

Having established control over the buildings of the Security Service of Ukraine and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, people moved to the regional prosecutor's office. There is no one to protect her.

Lenta also reports that earlier protesters seized the buildings of the regional state administrations of Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv and Ternopil. They also stormed the Berkut base in Rovno.

Special riots are noted in Lviv.

There, radical oppositionists not only took the premises of the regional prosecutor's office by storm, but also seized the premises of the Lviv regional administration and stormed the regional police department. Around 2, thousands of people attacked a military unit of the Interior Ministry troops and set it on fire. During the assault, 30 soldiers were injured, reports RIA News" with reference to UNN.

According to "Controversy", in Chernigov, police detained a group of underage activists of “euromaidan” suspected of two murders and a number of other crimes committed in the city during several weeks. It is reported by the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in the Chernihiv region.

As the chief of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in the Chernihiv region, Major General of the Police Alexander Mikhailik, told during the press conference, three minors were detained who are suspected of committing two murders and four robberies, including a local journalist Alexander Yasenchuk. The fourth member of the group did not stay because of his young age (2001 year of birth). Suspects give confessions.

The western neighbors of Ukraine are worried. In Poland, for example, there is an opinion that Russia may attack Ukraine.

According to "Reedus" With reference to UNIAN, the CBOS Public Opinion Research Center conducted a survey in Poland related to the attitude of Poles to Ukrainian events. 1020 residents of the country older than 18 took part in the survey.

According to the study, 32% of respondents believe that Russia can carry out an armed intervention in Ukraine. 45% admit that Ukraine is waiting for a civil war. 25% are confident that the Ukrainian authorities will impose a state of emergency. And only a third of the respondents believe in a peaceful resolution of the conflict.

In conclusion, we note that the protesting opposition in Ukraine raised even the theme of the Sochi Olympics.

Through social networks, activists called on compatriots to boycott the Olympics in Sochi, reports Newsru.com.

Oppositionists claim that Ukrainians do not have the moral right to participate in the Olympics when the blood of protesters is shed: “Dear fellow athletes! Please boycott the Olympics. We have no moral right to participate in events! Because during the Olympics, all wars fall asleep, a truce comes! And the Yanukovych regime is pouring blood on our native land with pulsing life ... Shame! Boycott!"

Thus, the opposition, carrying out the seizure of buildings, arranging robberies, murders and fires, blames all sins on the “Yanukovych regime”, sticking even the Sochi Olympics to the President’s “work”. In the meantime, the same West, where oppositionists are rushing, directly indicates to the latter “the unacceptability of methods”. It will end up in that the opposition will finally frighten the EU with fascist aspirations, and Europe will turn its back on the Kiev radicals.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 19 February 2014 08: 44
    +101
    Like a flock of sheep going under the pointer of the West ... Well, isn’t there a head? Or so impoverished? What you are doing ? Come to your senses
    1. rolik2
      rolik2 19 February 2014 08: 51
      +229
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Like a flock of sheep going under the pointer of the West ... Well, isn’t there a head?

      What the fuck is the West? Enough to think and speak in cliches. Bendery trash tasted the blood, and now it can only be stopped by spreading a thin layer along the pavement.
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 19 February 2014 09: 04
        +297
        I am on the territory of Western Ukraine controlled by Banderovites. I will not say more precisely. my life depends on it. The fact that I have a profile of Zaporozhye (camouflage), I left this region on my head in the summer. crying

        As a person with a historical education, and having a crush on the local mentality, I know that they will come after me (since I am Russian, and I continue to speak defiantly in Russian) when they finish with the communists and regionalists. While there is much to run, and even easier, but there are some personal obligations that you can’t say publicly.

        The article looked through fluently. I don’t know if it was written or not that a cop moved several times in Kiev, and also that a traffic police squad was shot at?

        In short, brothers and sisters, Syria came to Ukraine. Want to be for you ala "Elena Gromova?" I think with warming, the militants will also pour in. There is almost no frost in Ukraine even at night. Or a warrior of Russia behind enemy lines? I'm shaking, it's not a dream. am
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 19 February 2014 09: 12
          +119
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Or a warrior of Russia behind enemy lines?

          KEEP NEVSKY! IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY - GRAB YOUR OWN AND WHAT YOU ARE worth - RUNING FROM HERE !!! RUSSIANS WILL BE DESTROYED FOR THE FIRST VERSION !!!!
          1. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 19 February 2014 09: 23
            +135
            It's time to stop looking west. The experience of Syria shows that even if Bandera will slaughter children and eat carved hearts of people, the West will still support them.

            The state of emergency, the use of firearms for all those involved in the coup.
            1. sergey32
              sergey32 19 February 2014 09: 46
              +110
              I would even specify. A state of emergency is being introduced in the country, troops with armored vehicles are being pulled in, Maidan is being blocked. An ultimatum is announced, half an hour for those who are ready to surrender weapons, and then an order - not to take prisoners. All jokes aside.
              1. Nicholas C.
                Nicholas C. 19 February 2014 10: 07
                +105
                And again, blood is pouring in Ukraine,
                As if war had come to us again.
                And again to power ruthlessly torn
                SS Division "Galicia".

                Our grandfathers fought against it,
                To have peace and silence in the country,
                But the Victory Day is haunting
                SS Division "Galicia".

                Anger twisted their faces
                And if there is Satan in the world,
                Then he managed to perfectly incarnate
                In the SS division "Galicia".

                And who said: “They are not to blame!”?
                Before people, their guilt is immeasurable.
                Soldiers swore allegiance to Hitler
                SS Division "Galicia".

                Now, having changed the owners of foreign,
                She only changed the sign:
                Beautifully called "Maidan"
                SS Division "Galicia".

                And we can’t leave it like that.
                After all, there will be a country in ruins,
                While in Ukraine will rule
                SS Division "Galicia".

                Since we are worthy of the heroes of grandfathers,
                since people need peace, not war -
                Break the ridge of Nazi accomplices -
                SS Division "Galicia".
                1. sergey32
                  sergey32 19 February 2014 10: 21
                  +49
                  Poems to the very point. Brothers Ukrainians now need to finish off that abomination that unfortunately our grandfathers did not finish off. Otherwise, you and I will have to meet them at the approaches to our Bryansk.
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 11: 32
                    +20
                    Quote: sergey32
                    Otherwise, you and I will have to meet them at the approaches to our Bryansk.

                    FIG them ... we don’t have such jokes ...
                    1. Current 72
                      Current 72 20 February 2014 00: 44
                      +12
                      And we Belarusians, the same will not work, though there will be such, but WE will crush them like puppies.
                      1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                        BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 23
                        +2
                        Bendera still have not answered for Khatyn ... Watering fascism = no need to wait !!!
                    2. BLACK-SHARK-64
                      BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 22
                      0
                      Naturally not a ride !!
                  2. tasey
                    tasey 19 February 2014 15: 41
                    +5
                    We will not persuade them ...
                  3. Kazakhstan
                    Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 54
                    +8
                    To the West, Ukraine, into the den of the enemy!
                  4. Basarev
                    Basarev 19 February 2014 18: 25
                    +17
                    Bandera’s people do not understand - no matter how much they worshiped the West - for the West they will still remain non-competition.
                    1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                      BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 25
                      0
                      They are NATO prostitutes !!!
                  5. BLACK-SHARK-64
                    BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 21
                    +1
                    Need to help! The Cossacks are already ready .. They soaked the Nazis in the war and now we’ll kill them .. They helped the Serbs in Yugoslavia !!! Ukrainians are our brothers !!!
                2. rotmistr4
                  rotmistr4 19 February 2014 12: 34
                  +13
                  Wonderful poem !!! Took a heart !!! THANK!!
                  1. Kazakhstan
                    Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 55
                    +4
                    From the heart!!!
                  2. BLACK-SHARK-64
                    BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 25
                    0
                    COOL !!!!!
                3. rotmistr4
                  rotmistr4 19 February 2014 12: 34
                  +1
                  Wonderful poem !!! Took a heart !!! THANK!!
                4. 222222
                  222222 19 February 2014 18: 05
                  +51
                  came across on the front lines of the Internet ...

                  "" Remember, those who have eaten "Kiev cake"
                  That every piece is a bullet in Oplot!
                  Roshen candies, lollipops, chocolate -
                  Those are the stones that fly to the Golden Eagle!
                  Do you like waffles and caramel flavor?
                  And our boys are burning with "cocktails"
                  Horrible and scary with the taste of napalm!
                  But stand firm, not leaving the bridgehead,
                  For our peace, happiness and joy!
                  Don't buy the sugary stuff! "" "
                  1. 222222
                    222222 19 February 2014 22: 03
                    +3
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jFgl9pfR2o&feature=youtu.be

                    as they poured maidanutymi in Odessa
                  2. BLACK-SHARK-64
                    BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 26
                    0
                    +++++++++++++++++++++++ !!!!
                  3. infinite silence ...
                    infinite silence ... 24 February 2014 17: 40
                    0
                    dialogue with the maydan ....

                    “Did you have a through wound to the head?”
                    - Only on the shoulder.
                    - Sorry, I would not have missed ...
                5. viach
                  viach 20 February 2014 21: 13
                  0
                  Class !!! This poem would be published in the Ukrainian media!
                  1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                    BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 27
                    0
                    MANDATORY !!!
                6. BLACK-SHARK-64
                  BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 18
                  0
                  Death to the fascists-Bendera !! 1
              2. Jin
                Jin 19 February 2014 10: 46
                +50
                Quote: sergey32
                Maidan is blocked. An ultimatum is announced, half an hour for those who are ready to surrender weapons, and then an order - not to take prisoners. All jokes aside.


                + I agree, but ... Yanukovych, described and crap one’s pants twenty times, but he won’t give such an order ... He’s neither fish nor meat. The article says that they call from America, demand that the police be withdrawn, from Yevoropa they call, do not use weapons against "peaceful protesters"!!! Damn peace! And where is this Yanukovych ???
                What to talk about ...
                Imagine this in Moscow or Minsk ???
                1. wasjasibirjac
                  wasjasibirjac 19 February 2014 11: 33
                  +21
                  Quote: Jin
                  I agree, but ... Yanukovych, described and crap one’s pants twenty times, but he won’t give such an order ... He’s neither fish nor meat

                  I agree completely. but there is also a question about the Ukrainian army - there were already statements from the Moscow Region about the neutrality of the army. therefore, I am afraid that army generals may refuse to comply with the order to suppress the armed rebellion, and in another way, the events in Kiev can already be called - almost 400 wounded and killed among the BB and Berkut!
                  1. tasey
                    tasey 19 February 2014 15: 46
                    +9
                    Without checking "for lice" you will never know who is who. We must give an order! But Yanukovych ... Look for such an amoeba.
                  2. Kazakhstan
                    Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 57
                    +6
                    This is a real coup!
                    1. Vlad.K.S.
                      Vlad.K.S. 19 February 2014 22: 31
                      +4
                      This is not a putsch, it is the overthrow of power by force.
                      1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                        BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 30
                        0
                        Look people to power are torn by fascists, prostitutes of the WEST !!!
                  3. Jin
                    Jin 19 February 2014 20: 15
                    +19
                    Quote: wasjasibirjac
                    from MO there were already statements about the neutrality of the army. therefore, I fear that army generals may refuse to comply with the order to suppress the armed rebellion


                    Yes Yes! I draw the conclusion that the influential ranks of the Nezalezhnaya army perfectly assess the situation, focusing on preserving their seats under their beloved booty, in which everyone can see the shaky position of Yanukovych, as well as those who oppose him (allegedly the "chief officers" of the opposition , which, as time shows, sneeze at these "leaders" from a high tower): a boxer, a Nazi and an anarchist ...
                    It is hardly believed that in view of what is happening, the Ukrainian army is that guarantor and bulwark of power the most legitimate authority, which should be by definition (the security officials see what their "politician" is doing).
                    Yanukovych, stared tightly ... However, he is the past, I think it is clear to everyone.
                    Summing up, I will say (This is only my opinion is natural): A couple more days of such "shitty negotiations" and I can't even imagine what will happen on the Maidan and in Ukraine as a whole ... What will happen to the Russian population in its west sad ... and which return flow this will affect the western regions, in turn ... and this is already a "citizen", into which the army will also be drawn, in which, most likely, a split will also appear. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong !!! God save us!
                    YANUKOVICH, ENOUGH TO PISS AND BEND! YOU ARE "ROD" IN ALL HOLES, AS WANTED !!! GET OUT AS A MAN SAVING HIS PEOPLE BY DECISIONAL ACTIONS,LET THE BERKUT EAT WORK! OR STAY IN MEMORY AND HISTORY OF A WAYLESS WESTERN SALE WHITE * OH ... negative
                    1. Current 72
                      Current 72 20 February 2014 00: 49
                      0
                      I fully support you !!!
                      1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                        BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 33
                        0
                        Guys, you don’t know that the top of the army and the Rada All the loot in the WEST !!! They are afraid of losing it .... Better THEM THE PEOPLE are dying .. NEED PATRIOT UKRAINE !!!!!
                2. tasey
                  tasey 19 February 2014 15: 44
                  +1
                  Or there, in "democratic" Paris, Berlin ?!
                3. Kazakhstan
                  Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 56
                  +7
                  We survived, other countries have already indicated by telephone what to do. fool
                4. Basarev
                  Basarev 19 February 2014 18: 30
                  +7
                  These peaceful protesters have already killed 23 people. It's time to take them seriously. Take all those who are opposed to the Maydan people out of town, pretending to have retreated ... And then give Smerch a lift and, in the most literal sense, burn this nest of evil spirits with fire.
                  1. psg72
                    psg72 19 February 2014 19: 26
                    +2
                    There are also peaceful people in Kiev. Tornado is impossible.
                  2. Egoza
                    Egoza 19 February 2014 19: 59
                    +18
                    Kiev. 14.00. The special forces installed a hose near the Independence stele and purposefully water the militants with a stiff stream of cold water. Europeans can not worry - all sanitary and hygienic standards are observed. On the street, plus six, the sun barely breaks through smog and smoke that has covered the area. Therefore, water procedures are very welcome. But the “centurion” is very concerned about this situation. Hysterical cries are heard from the stage about the urgent need to deliver raincoats to the “lads”. Soaked, then. Surprising skill with which the commandos, changing near the hose, manage to hit even small targets in the form of a scoreboard in a mask.

                    A jet of water completely knocks down his helmet. The militants are trying to set fire to special forces with the help of "Molotov cocktails", but to no avail. Meanwhile, the spot of scorched and free from raguli land near the stele is becoming more and more. This is almost a regular semicircle, which is steadily pressed into the center. Special Forces is gradually advancing. Step by step. The mass is retreating, literally squeezed out of its laden and caked places. The crowd density is low, about three thousand. Again, I emphasize that the main replenishment is representatives of the three western regions. The water cannon, it must be said, turned out to be a very effective weapon. And the city hall building is again seized. In principle, something similar was to be expected, since the “guys” want to relax, have a tasty meal, get a daily allowance, and again go “to be for the country”.

                    The speakers have almost completely disappeared from the scene, since, as it turned out, it flies normally. The organizer speaker is hiding behind some kind of booth, trying to lead. He explains how to get to St. Michael's Cathedral. Well, of course, this is not done for the people of Kiev. The latter see with horror how the city is being destroyed before their eyes. And here is a sample announcement on the Maidan: "Yuri Boyko, Ivano-Frankivsk, pididy to the ideal." Apparently, the kid did not have time for soldering.
                    http://www.versii.com/news/297656/
                    1. Dilshat
                      Dilshat 21 February 2014 22: 50
                      0
                      At the expense of a water cannon, it’s already yesterday. In some advanced countries of the West, liquid has been used for a particularly violent for a long time. Seriously, I’m not joking. It’s the most time to use European crap.
                  3. alone
                    alone 19 February 2014 21: 00
                    +1
                    Basarev will only shoot you from Tornadoes))
                5. psg72
                  psg72 19 February 2014 19: 24
                  +2
                  Yanukovych has already missed his chance. He kills the Golden Eagle with his indecision.
                  1. cosmos111
                    cosmos111 19 February 2014 22: 45
                    +6
                    Quote: psg72
                    He kills the Golden Eagle with his indecision.

                    ANNA News reports (((
                    ordinary Kievans help soldiers and police who are fighting with militants !!!

                    1. internatio
                      internatio 20 February 2014 02: 31
                      +4
                      ANNA news - our THANKS to you! Your reports from Syria watched, unfortunately, are already published about Kiev. Youth helps to understand what is happening. Keep it up! And take care of yourself.
                  2. BLACK-SHARK-64
                    BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 35
                    0
                    Golden Eagle - Well done guys are not corrupt !!! There were troubled times in Russia. Minin and Pozharsky were found !! 1 HEROES must also be IN UKRAINE !!!!
                6. eprst
                  eprst 19 February 2014 20: 04
                  +10
                  And that Yanukovych is a two-faced Anus !!
                  1. Vasek
                    Vasek 19 February 2014 23: 35
                    +4
                    Quote: eprst
                    Yanukovych - two-faced Anus !!

                    two Janopus (according to passport)
                    1. morpex
                      morpex 20 February 2014 01: 35
                      +5
                      Quote: Vasek
                      And that Yanukovych is a two-faced Anus !!

                      Quote: Vasek
                      two Janopus (according to passport)

                      Oh guys! How do I agree with you. Everyone here says -West is to blame, the United States or someone else. The main culprits of the trouble in Ukraine are Yanukovych with his "slightly moronic" team and oligophrenic oppositionists in the person of these three woodpeckers. Yesterday they showed a mother with one son stands on the Maidan, the second is serving in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. You should have seen her tears! Trouble .. Stsuki what they have brought the country to ...
                      1. alicante11
                        alicante11 20 February 2014 05: 02
                        +1
                        Master, would you go to your Bandera. Without you, zapadentsev, and your amerian puppeteers, a yanyk would have stolen himself quietly, like our oligarchs and officials, and people would not have died. And because of you, 26 oak people have already moved. And this is only official.
                      2. morpex
                        morpex 22 February 2014 21: 32
                        0
                        Quote: alicante11
                        Master, would you go to your Bandera.

                        Take the trouble to open at least my profile and find out where I come from and where I live. And take the time to read at least a dozen of my comments. Is your surname Kantor? If yes, then everything is clear wassat
                        According to your surname, it is better to sing in the synagogue and do not insult strangers to you
                      3. BLACK-SHARK-64
                        BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 43
                        +1
                        THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE WEST wants to split !!! THIS was already in Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Egypt, etc. Next in line is UKRAINE and according to the plan of RUSSIA !!! Fuck them! Ukraine needs help ... First you need to explain the backgammon ... Introduce Cossack troops !!! Death to the Nazis !!!
                  2. BLACK-SHARK-64
                    BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 37
                    0
                    More and smyr Penis !!!
                7. Lyokhin63
                  Lyokhin63 19 February 2014 20: 15
                  +19
                  Maybe I'm paranoid, but it seems that Yanukovych is in the same gang with the Banderlog. I do not believe that a politician of this level can be cowardly and stupid. Vile, unprincipled, greedy for power, money, fame, but cowardly - no. I will try to substantiate my point of view. I say right away that I didn't really follow the events in Ukraine, so basically only logic. Yanyk climbed to the presidency on the pro-Russian sentiments of the East. But then the East broke off a lot, continuing (suddenly for me) the Yushshenko case. What caused the hatred of the East, adding resentment to the pro-European West. Then he aroused the fierce hatred of the West, sending the EU to ... when everything seems to have already grown together. And thus gave rise to the Maidan, in which the Banderlog, who pretended to be Natsik for some hryvnia, hiding behind peaceful idiots who consider themselves "patriots", destroy their own state. In this situation, the yanyk again has a very important task - not to let his inaction, and I am sure by direct instructions - the authority of the chief executive officer to take the situation under control. So, in my opinion, Ukraine is going to split, yanyka is a quiet life next to the hump in Germany, but the hottest frying pans in hell.
                  1. nycsson
                    nycsson 19 February 2014 23: 02
                    +6
                    Quote: Lyokhin63
                    Maybe I'm paranoid, but it feels like Yanukovych is in the same gang with banderlogs.

                    I completely agree. And they do one thing ........
                  2. internatio
                    internatio 20 February 2014 02: 41
                    0
                    Who did not bet on the basis on which it stands? I AM.
                  3. BLACK-SHARK-64
                    BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 45
                    0
                    He has all the loot in the WEST !!! Therefore, everything is SO !!!
                8. anarh
                  anarh 19 February 2014 23: 26
                  +3
                  Quote: Jin
                  do not use arms against "peaceful protesters" !!!

                  All right
                  According to the contract.
                  Against the peaceful do not apply.
                  Only there are no peace.
                  So - you can.
                  1. morpex
                    morpex 20 February 2014 01: 56
                    -2
                    Quote: anarh
                    So - you can.

                    What is possible?
                    There are no such rights: neither to rebel, nor to suppress. The authorities are called upon to ensure the development and life of society. But sometimes, power replaces the purpose and purpose of activity, providing for itself. If you can’t do it, go away!
                    But even here the authorities consider it to know better what to do. Then the Maidan
                    In Russia, power allows people to live. Everyone is happy. It does not threaten you.
                    1. alicante11
                      alicante11 20 February 2014 06: 54
                      0
                      There are no such rights: neither to rebel, nor to suppress.


                      No, well, damn it, okay. And if they ALREADY "rebelled", then why not "suppress"?
                    2. Vlad.K.S.
                      Vlad.K.S. 20 February 2014 22: 06
                      0
                      morpexy.And about Maidan it is more beautiful to chit Burak’s Tarasenko.
                    3. BLACK-SHARK-64
                      BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 54
                      0
                      WEST has plans to destroy both UKRAINE and RUSSIA.
                9. CIANIT
                  CIANIT 20 February 2014 07: 52
                  -1
                  And Pan Yaneku still emigrate to Europe. Yes, and his money is all there.
                  1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                    BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 55
                    0
                    That's for sure!!
                10. Molybdenum
                  Molybdenum 20 February 2014 10: 42
                  +1
                  He is afraid for his dollar bills in Amer banks !!!
                11. Theophanes
                  Theophanes 20 February 2014 16: 41
                  +1
                  SO THIS IS A GENERAL REHEARS !!! Moscow is waiting for the same. Not for nothing they go to Kiev and welcome the rebellion of Sobchachka and other goddesses. It’s not in vain that the Gestapo Merkel is screaming along with all the Western peacekeepers from the European Parliament, NATO, the world laureate Obama and other assholes. For them, blood shed in Ukraine is a gift!
                  1. klavyr
                    klavyr 20 February 2014 19: 33
                    0
                    ... Moscow is waiting for the same ...
                    - an attempt was made, conclusions (I hope) were made. SGA sponsor world chaos with their candy wrappers and are ready not to stop their printing press - if only the peoples would kill each other or brother of the brother in the fight for candy wrappers (the second is preferable). and on banderlog there is a reliable government - THIS IS WISE KAA !!!
                    1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                      BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 57
                      0
                      They have the same idea LESS PEOPLE MORE oxygen ...
                  2. BLACK-SHARK-64
                    BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 56
                    0
                    Sobchachka a dog sale shushera!
                12. BLACK-SHARK-64
                  BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 28
                  0
                  A new BEETLES is now needed in Ukraine !!!
              3. officer29
                officer29 19 February 2014 12: 27
                +25
                Quote: sergey32
                troops are being pulled with armored vehicles

                What troops are you talking about in Ukraine! There are practically NO armies in Ukraine! Yesterday I talked with a fellow student (From Ukraine), so he said that the military could not really put up guards to protect military towns and facilities! Unless to mobilize, at least partially, am in the East and South of Ukraine!
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                3. BLACK-SHARK-64
                  BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 59
                  0
                  The people of UKRAINE NEED help, introduce Cossack troops and pacify the Nazis !!!
              4. Yerlan
                Yerlan 19 February 2014 14: 56
                +31
                Here is a concrete example from Kazakhstan:
                "On December 16, 2011, riots broke out in the city of Zhanaozen, Mangistau region. The reason was a strike of oil workers who demanded an increase in wages from their employers. The strike lasted many months. And all these months oil workers stood in the square peacefully and no one touched them.
                However, on December 16 (Independence Day of Kazakhstan), riots broke out:
                In particular, festivities on the central square of the city were disrupted, the yurts arranged on the occasion of Independence Day and the portable stage were destroyed, the tree was burned. A police bus was also set on fire.
                The building of the local akimat (mayor's office), the office of the Ozenmunaigas oil company, the Aruana hotel, two residential buildings (cottages) and the Kazmunaigaz gas station were completely (completely) burned down. Two large stores of household appliances were looted and burned, almost all ATMs were broken and plundered, A TOTAL 46 OBJECTS. Of course there were attacks on police officers with the aim of seizing weapons. At the same time, they used firearms and edged weapons.
                What was done by the authorities:
                “On behalf of the head of state, the investigative-operational group led by the Minister of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Kazakhstan, K. Kasymov, flew to Zhanaozen to take all necessary measures to curb criminal actions, identify and punish the organizers of the riots, and restore public safety in the city.”
                1. The city was immediately taken into the ring.
                2. Cut off the Internet and telephone communications.
                3. Quickly seized all the provocateurs and nesunov money.
                4. From December 17 to January 5, 2012 a state of emergency was introduced,
                and curfew, with all that it implies ...
                After the organization of a complete blockade of the city, they began to comb it. They were looking for armed provocateurs and instigators, bandits and pogromists. Moreover, everything was done rigidly and clearly.
                Thus, in just over one day, the situation stabilized and was taken under control. The number of victims is 14 people.
                Subsequently, the organizers also got:
                January 23, 2012 KNB officers conducted searches in the apartments and offices of activists and leaders of the unregistered opposition party Alga, as well as in the editorial office of the opposition newspaper Vzglyad and in the apartment of its editor-in-chief Igor Vinyavsky. "
                In summary:
                Vladimir Kozlov was sentenced to 7 years and 6 months in prison in a penal colony with confiscation of property.
                A. Aminov and S. Sapargali were sentenced to 3 years probation and released from the courtroom.
                Igor Vinyavsky was released under an amnesty, and his newspaper was liquidated by court order.
                Timur Kulibayev (the president's son-in-law) was dismissed from the post of head of the Samruk-Kazyna fund for failing to fulfill the president's instructions, due to the timely resolution of a labor dispute.
                I think that in Ukraine it was necessary to do something like this!
                1. Kazakhstan
                  Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 59
                  +11
                  What to pull and mumble, act tough and fast!
                2. Stanislas
                  Stanislas 20 February 2014 00: 40
                  0
                  Quote: Yerlan
                  In summary:
                  In the city of Zhanaozen, Mangistau region, they found Vladimir Kozlov responsible for all the crime committed during the riots? Black humor, some, in the end.
                3. internatio
                  internatio 20 February 2014 02: 47
                  0
                  I agree. But the chance is lost. Back in early January, everything could have been decided. And less blood. Now, if they do not intercept the weapons and ammunition captured in the zapadenschina - ...
                4. Oboz
                  Oboz 20 February 2014 07: 03
                  0
                  It was worse! Specialists were! And not only the organizers.
                5. Oboz
                  Oboz 20 February 2014 07: 03
                  0
                  It was worse! Specialists were! And not only the organizers.
                6. BLACK-SHARK-64
                  BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 12: 00
                  0
                  RIGHT!!!
              5. Kazakhstan
                Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 53
                0
                Procrastination is similar to defeat.
              6. aleshka
                aleshka 19 February 2014 19: 24
                +6
                there are very good means for this, RPO "Bumblebee" for example, and driving an armored personnel carrier under lighters, probably even with gasoline engines, is the height of stupidity !!! It's a shame for Kiev, a shame for Ukraine, for their smart-ass Yanyk! After all, in December all this could be stop for a day, and now there will be a lot of blood !!
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              11. BLACK-SHARK-64
                BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 17
                0
                That's right, the only way ... Otherwise, Yugoslavia and Syria will turn out !!! Wet Bander !!!
            2. yuriy_dashkin
              yuriy_dashkin 19 February 2014 15: 01
              +16
              Guys, don’t be kidding, what state of emergency?!? Immediately the sanctions of all civilized, and all that was stolen by hard labor remains in the West. If everything was just solved like that, it would have been a long time ago and the state of emergency, and all the jabbering in prisons .... But, the capitals of our (as well as Russian, by the way) oligarchs, all their interests are in the West, so the guys from Berkut are without the right to answer these goblins, while in Parliament there is a bargain. While money in this world is everything, the Russians will be in ... Well, actually this is a rehearsal. In Russia, the same thing will happen (I would very much like to make a mistake in this).
              1. Yerlan
                Yerlan 19 February 2014 15: 41
                +4
                I strongly doubt that our capital and interests are somewhere else. It seems to me that it is also in the "west".
                1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                  BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 12: 03
                  0
                  WHAT disgusting, that really in the WEST !!!
              2. Kazakhstan
                Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 00
                0
                Here is what could be. What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
              3. tasey
                tasey 19 February 2014 16: 01
                +4
                You will be wrong ... I remember the State Emergency Committee, I was on duty at that time in Belarus at the SS-20 Saber console. Information - zero! But the mood was unambiguous - they did not believe the Moscow clowns. Nobody would follow them, in the rest of Russia. It will be the same now - the buzoters in the center will be slammed "at once".
                1. internatio
                  internatio 20 February 2014 02: 55
                  +3
                  It is unfortunate that no one believed in the GKChP. Especially serving. There was a chance to save, if not the USSR, then at least part of it. Do not even compare with Kiev and Ukraine - everything is different.
              4. Basarev
                Basarev 19 February 2014 18: 35
                +10
                In Russia, this has already happened - remember Bolotnaya Square. Only then in a few days they broke this gang.
              5. Vlad.K.S.
                Vlad.K.S. 19 February 2014 22: 46
                +2
                Then it will be like in Yugoslavia.
              6. alicante11
                alicante11 20 February 2014 07: 02
                +2
                Forget about the capital. Money is a profitable business, but power, life and business with them, like ours, are here. Just a Yanuca - still trying to sit on two chairs. Until the ass cracks :(. Because the red (Russian oligarchs) will come to rob, the whites (Yusovtsy and Esovtsy) will come to rob. And where should the poor Yanuca go? Only now the people of Ukraine will not be "robbed" by the "red" "whites", the people of Ukraine will curl up into a tube.
            3. Kazakhstan
              Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 52
              +2
              I completely agree.
            4. internatio
              internatio 20 February 2014 02: 07
              +3
              people, Crimea is still calm. but ... The "indigenous" on the 23rd promise to arrange a storm like on the Maidan. It is a pity that there is nothing to treat if they come up. It is a pity for the old men from the "Union of Soviet Officers" - what is it like for them to experience everything anew and tremble for their grandchildren ... And the "self-defense units" are still amorphous, there are no means of communication, etc.
              The situation: there is knowledge - there is no experience, there is experience and knowledge - there are no means.
              Such a situation as the Nevsky in the Crimea has not yet developed, fortunately.
            5. BLACK-SHARK-64
              BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 15
              0
              Bandera burned Khatyn, and another 20 Belarusian villages with residents !! And blamed on the Germans .... Bandera WET !!!
            6. Dilshat
              Dilshat 21 February 2014 22: 26
              0
              What naivete in the last sentence of the article, if the gay people even support cannibals who are guzzling a heart! This is what they tried to do.
          2. domokl
            domokl 19 February 2014 13: 15
            +20
            Quote: Egoza
            !!! RUSSIANS WILL BE DESTROYED FOR THE FIRST TIME !!!!

            And you can’t argue ... The family must be saved .. So far, to go to Transnistria ... And you yourself have to shoot ...
            Another thing amazes me. Does this person in the presidential chair really not understand that he is losing strength every hour ... His strength ... The army is standing still, but it's only for now ... The Ministry of Internal Affairs is standing still, although there are already many who betrayed the country ...
            That's when you remember Lenin-Procrastination of death is like ...
            1. Vasek
              Vasek 19 February 2014 23: 47
              +4
              Quote: domokl
              . In Transnistria so far ... But he himself will have to shoot ...


              But in Odessa, in my opinion, the situation is under control:

              "... About 100 unknown persons in masks with baseball bats and in helmets attacked the protesters near the building of the Odessa regional administration. Euromaidan supporters tried to hide behind the police, but law enforcement officers could not immediately push back the attackers, and the Euromaidan members were beaten right under the entrance to the building of the regional administration ... "
              1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 12: 06
                0
                Glad, very happy!
            2. internatio
              internatio 20 February 2014 03: 01
              0
              The tragedy of the situation in the desire of the "humiliated and defiled indigenous" "Crimeans" to help the European integrators of western Ukraine achieve their goals. And then ethnic ch. To spend ...
          3. Strider
            Strider 19 February 2014 15: 24
            .
            Quote: Egoza
            KEEP NEVSKY! IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY - GRAB YOUR OWN AND WHAT YOU ARE worth - RUNING FROM HERE !!! RUSSIANS WILL BE DESTROYED FOR THE FIRST VERSION !!!!


            Nobody is touching the peaceful people! And what are you talking about who to destroy? Do you have any evidence or is it just without a false panic? Yes, 7 Interior Ministry officers and as many protesters were killed somewhere, though this is already outdated information!
            topic video
            1. Evgeniy-111
              Evgeniy-111 19 February 2014 16: 28
              +10
              Outdated information - is it actually killed more?
              And how much does it take to kill in order for the panic to turn into something else ?!
            2. Strider
              Strider 19 February 2014 16: 56
              .
              KEEP NEVSKY! IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY - GRAB YOUR OWN AND WHAT YOU ARE worth - RUNING FROM HERE !!! RUSSIANS WILL BE DESTROYED FOR THE FIRST VERSION !!!!

              1. 31231
                31231 19 February 2014 18: 59
                +7
                AND?! Who shot? Where is the shooter? Where is the arrow video? And why did they fire the line instead of solitary?
                Why is the video incomplete? Why is there no ambulance, and how were the victims taken?
              2. predator.3
                predator.3 19 February 2014 20: 51
                +19
                And what after breaking doors the SBU should have met with bread and salt ?! I would like to see the FBI hacking the door!
                1. officer29
                  officer29 19 February 2014 23: 22
                  0
                  Quote: predator.3
                  ! I would like to see the door hacking

                  Especially your own home! am
              3. Anper
                Anper 20 February 2014 01: 41
                +1
                As always, in the Maidan spirit - and not killed, but alive, and not from a machine gun, but from a shotgun wounded.
              4. Strider
                Strider 20 February 2014 16: 46
                0
                Shoot in the head a girl kneeling in front of the SBU! Heroic deed YES !?
            3. Dmitry Toderes
              Dmitry Toderes 19 February 2014 18: 11
              +7
              Judging by your nickname, you played in Half-life 2. Do you think this is also a game on your street?
              I also thought that the game S.T.A.L.K.E.R. I have nothing to do with it in Russia until I found out that in Sarov (where I live) there are several underground reactors and there are some laboratories guarded by the military in gas masks. The comparison is not very out of place, but still scary for Ukraine. In Ukraine, the situation is very, very bad now - we hope that the civil war will not be as bloody as in Syria, or it will NOT be at all, but this is already unlikely.
              PS Do not be offended by nit-picking a nickname.
              1. Strider
                Strider 19 February 2014 18: 33
                .
                Firstly, I have never played the game "Half-life" by all means from you (judging by the avatar)!
                Secondly, nickname Strayder on behalf of the former fur seal Kotoriy created the Strider SMF knife adopted by the fur seal!
                1. Strider
                  Strider 19 February 2014 18: 43
                  -6
                  Photo of a custom knife Strider SMF (Damascus)
                  1. 31231
                    31231 19 February 2014 21: 13
                    +14
                    Hey, Ramba, an article about railway station in Ukraine, and not about mersky cats.
                  2. Dmitry Toderes
                    Dmitry Toderes 19 February 2014 23: 05
                    +3
                    Well, sorry if touched. I'm not angry.
            4. Jogan-xnumx
              Jogan-xnumx 19 February 2014 23: 57
              +2
              I would not mind seeing you among those "somewhere" killed ... How about this situation? Anyway, someone will be killed somewhere. Why not you?
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            5. takto.onotak
              takto.onotak 20 February 2014 15: 59
              0
              And this one, who was spraying gas, the poor thing was already stupefied with fear when the deputy turned around. The biggest evil is impunity!
            6. takto.onotak
              takto.onotak 20 February 2014 15: 59
              0
              And this one, who was spraying gas, the poor thing was already stupefied with fear when the deputy turned around. The biggest evil is impunity!
          4. klim44
            klim44 19 February 2014 16: 29
            .
            Great comment))))), do not protect your home, but run !!!! Once again I was convinced that the patriots-gorlopany little finger for the Motherland will not be pricked
            1. Horst78
              Horst78 19 February 2014 17: 01
              +13
              But you're just a terminator, all one left
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            2. Current 72
              Current 72 20 February 2014 01: 12
              +1
              Klim44! And you know this saying: YOU CAN MAKE AN ELEPHANT FUCK AND FUCK. So they advise him correctly that one or even ten unorganized people can do it against trained and trained Bandera people. They are great guys (I mean Bandera people) against the sheep, let's see how they will stand against the fellows.
              1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 12: 10
                +1
                Especially against the Cossacks. Piss on the pavement ...
          5. AVV
            AVV 19 February 2014 21: 22
            +2
            Quote: Egoza
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            Or a warrior of Russia behind enemy lines?

            KEEP NEVSKY! IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY - GRAB YOUR OWN AND WHAT YOU ARE worth - RUNING FROM HERE !!! RUSSIANS WILL BE DESTROYED FOR THE FIRST VERSION !!!!

            Although in the first place you need to destroy the Bendery s.voloch !!!
          6. nycsson
            nycsson 19 February 2014 22: 33
            +1
            Quote: Egoza
            KEEP NEVSKY! IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY - GRAB YOUR OWN AND WHAT YOU ARE worth - RUNING FROM HERE !!! RUSSIANS WILL BE DESTROYED FOR THE FIRST VERSION !!!!

            Maybe you need not to run, but to rally the Russians ?! And give a worthy rebuff!
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 19 February 2014 23: 20
              +4
              Quote: nycsson
              Maybe you need not to run, but to rally the Russians ?! And give a worthy rebuff!

              At the entrances to Kiev in the Borispol region, Euromaidan activists shell buses with opponents of the Maidan. As representatives of the Union of Soviet Officers told Special Polemics, today at the entrance to Kiev in the Boryspil region, two buses, which were mainly military pensioners, members of the Kharkov branch of the Union of Soviet Officers, were stopped by Euromaidan militants. Euromaidanites, threatening with weapons, categorically demanded that pensioners return to Kharkov. Threats sounded and several shots were fired from pistols. According to eyewitnesses, the shots were fired from military weapons. Note that representatives of the Union of Soviet Officers were sent to the Mariinsky Park in Kiev to express their opinion on the events in the capital. In order to avoid human casualties, the organizers of the trip to Kiev decided to return to Kharkov. In addition, as the representative of the Oplot public organization told a polemic correspondent, two buses with strongholds returning to Kharkov in the Borispol area were fired from traumatic weapons.
              Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139071.html
              Luganchans came from Kiev crippled after the attack on the anti-Maidan protesters from Euromaidan. This was reported in the press service of the Lugansk regional organization of the Party of Regions. As it became known, on February 18 in the rally in support of the President, which was held at the Mariinsky Park in Kiev, 250 residents of the Luhansk region participated. Many of them had to defend themselves and other anti-Maidan participants during the attack by armed activists of Euromaidan. After the 12 clashes, Luhansk residents sought medical help: one of the victims had a gunshot wound, and therefore, he is still in the hospital. Three people turned to doctors with shrapnel wounds from improvised explosive devices, three participants in Anti-Maidan were shell-shocked, three more had a concussion, and two Luhansk residents received numerous cuts to their lower extremities. Note that this is only official data, according to the Luhansk residents of Antimaydan, when they arrived in Lugansk, many of them were immediately taken by the ambulance
              Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139070.html
              We simply don’t have weapons!
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 February 2014 23: 50
                -9
                Quote: Egoza
                As representatives of the Union of Soviet Officers told Special Polemics,

                Isn’t that the one that was going to Syria, but it wasn’t going to?
          7. BLACK-SHARK-64
            BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 13
            0
            RUSSIAN to run shame !! Watering the Nazis !!!
        2. Horst78
          Horst78 19 February 2014 09: 27
          +25
          Hold on And report the situation promptly, regardless of which article.
        3. predator.3
          predator.3 19 February 2014 09: 39
          +76
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          In short, brothers and sisters, Syria came to Ukraine.


          This is exactly the second Syria, the "point of no return" has already been passed - blood will be shed, now the authorities must act toughly and quickly! no negotiations with this damn Klitschko troika, they no longer control their scumbags, especially in Lviv a military unit with a weapon was captured, soon this weapon will be in Kiev, that's when it will start!"You cannot beg for peace from the enemy, you can only force the enemy into peace by stepping on his head with a boot!" (I don’t remember who said it, but the quote is correct) To act like in Tiananmen Square in 89, who now remembers this and someone reproaches China for this massacre, even Clinton “swallowed” everything while standing at the PLA parade in this square ...
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 11: 34
            +31
            Quote: predator.3
            in Lvov captured a military unit with a weapon, soon this weapon will be in Kiev

            but it really amazes me ...

            just imagine that we would try to capture a military unit ...
            yes the invaders there would have died the death of the brave, right at the fence ...
            1. predator.3
              predator.3 19 February 2014 11: 45
              +18
              Quote: DanaF1
              just imagine that we would try to capture a military unit ...
              yes the invaders there would have died the death of the brave, right at the fence ...

              We have yes! and if in this part the Lviv lads serve?
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 11: 51
                +14
                Quote: predator.3
                and if in this part the Lviv lads serve?

                Yes it is clear...

                it just doesn’t fit in my head how a crowd of poorly armed thugs can capture a military unit armed to the teeth ...
                just does not fit and that's it ...
                1. Marine One
                  Marine One 19 February 2014 12: 43
                  +3
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  it just doesn’t fit in my head how a crowd of poorly armed thugs can capture a military unit armed to the teeth ..


                  How how? Easy and laid back. Have you already forgotten the story of the capture of the reconnaissance barracks near Samara (military unit 65349) by a handful of Dagestanis?
                  http://www.trud.ru/article/29-01-2009/221712_v_samare_za_napadenie_na_voinskuju_
                  chast_osuzhdeny.html
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 13: 05
                    +3
                    Quote: Marine One
                    Easy and laid back. Have you already forgotten the story of the capture of the reconnaissance barracks near Samara (military unit 65349) by a handful of Dagestanis?
                    http://www.trud.ru/article/29-01-2009/221712_v_samare_za_napadenie_na_voinskuju_

                    chast_osuzhdeny.html

                    Well, there is a difference ...
                    in Samara they did not expect an attack ... I believe that in the Ukraine they still expected ...
                    1. Marine One
                      Marine One 19 February 2014 13: 07
                      +4
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      in Samara did not expect an attack ...

                      Scout ... did not expect an attack ... Divided by zero. I mean, you just divided by zero.
                      However, there can only be one question to the quality of organization and service.
                      1. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 13: 12
                        +3
                        Quote: Marine One
                        Scout ... did not expect an attack ...

                        why should she actually expect an attack not in the midst of hostilities or riots, but in the deep rear?
                      2. Marine One
                        Marine One 19 February 2014 13: 32
                        +11
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        why should she actually


                        Clear. Begin self-education with the Charter of the garrison and guard services of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Not as interesting as manga, but cognitive in its own way.
                      3. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 13: 33
                        -1
                        Quote: Marine One
                        Begin self-education with the Charter of the garrison and guard services of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Not as interesting as manga, but cognitive in its own way.

                        here you go ...
                        especially from the point of alert ...
                      4. Marine One
                        Marine One 19 February 2014 13: 45
                        -8
                        Kiso offended? However, it’s thick.
                      5. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 19: 44
                        -1
                        well done herroy!

                        it’s only capable of trying to insult a woman when the arguments end ...
                      6. Marine One
                        Marine One 19 February 2014 22: 34
                        -2
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        try to insult


                        What insults are there? Tokmo edification. smile After all, as it is said: Execute a son (in your case, a daughter) from his youth (in your case, her), and rest thee for your old age. And do not weaken, bey baby; even if he beats him with the rod, he will not die, but he will be healthier; accentuate his wounds - for the soul you save from death ... "
                      7. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 23: 40
                        -2
                        Quote: Marine One
                        Tokmo edification. After all, as it is said: Execute a son (in your case, a daughter) from his youth (in your case, her), and rest thee for your old age. And do not weaken, bey baby; even if he beats him with the rod, he will not die, but he will be healthier; quicken his wounds - for saving your soul from death ... "

                        boy, and the crown does not press?

                        or is it the corrupting influence of union jack?
                      8. Marine One
                        Marine One 20 February 2014 00: 52
                        -3
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        or is it the corrupting influence of union jack?


                        There, girl, to Aleshenka. The day after tomorrow I’m waiting for an abstract. You also have a report on the current charters.
                      9. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 20 February 2014 08: 58
                        0
                        Quote: Marine One
                        There, girl, to Aleshenka. The day after tomorrow I’m waiting for an abstract. You also have a report on the current charters.

                        still presses ...
                        you are this, in a neater way, otherwise the blood in your head will cease to circulate at all :))
                      10. aleshka
                        aleshka 20 February 2014 20: 06
                        0
                        Sailor, and you are just ,, duck!
                      11. officer29
                        officer29 19 February 2014 23: 37
                        +7
                        Respected! And YOU don’t think that the military unit is in the same city where the invaders live, that the invaders can have complete data on the families of military personnel, especially officers and ensigns! Do not forget about the contractors, who are 90% local! It is not yet known what is in the heads of local servicemen! This situation is BIG QUESTION !!!
                      12. BLACK-SHARK-64
                        BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 12: 17
                        0
                        I agree ...
                      13. aleshka
                        aleshka 19 February 2014 19: 30
                        +3
                        sailor, and what is your flag like that ??? you study the GIKS charter with Abramovich ???
                      14. Marine One
                        Marine One 19 February 2014 22: 28
                        +3
                        Quote: Alesha
                        sailor, and what is your flag like that ??? you study the GIKS charter with Abramovich ???


                        You, Aleshenka, also recommend that you study what proxy services are for the Internet for self-education purposes. As you study, report and present a summary.
                      15. aleshka
                        aleshka 20 February 2014 20: 16
                        0
                        the flag has changed! probably the proxy service helped !!
                      16. Vasek
                        Vasek 20 February 2014 00: 06
                        +3
                        Quote: Alesha
                        sailor, and what is your flag like that ???



                        Yes, "Marine One" is actually a presidential helicopter, but it's still rude to a woman in vain, it really doesn't add heroism to him ...
                      17. Marine One
                        Marine One 20 February 2014 00: 55
                        -3
                        Quote: Vasek
                        but the woman is still rude in vain

                        This is the same woman as you Frederic Chopin, and I am Friedrich Nietzsche.
                      18. aleshka
                        aleshka 20 February 2014 20: 08
                        0
                        Are you trying to impersonate a thinking person ???
                      19. karbofos
                        karbofos 19 February 2014 23: 45
                        +1
                        add and instructive. All charters are written in blood. And in such serious units as intelligence, military charters are honored. so the question to the commanders
                      20. Vasek
                        Vasek 20 February 2014 00: 11
                        +1
                        Quote: kalbofos
                        All charters are written in blood. And in such serious units as intelligence, military charters are honored. so the question to the commanders


                        What does the BUSV have to do with relaxation in the barracks? But the charter of the "garrison and guard" was really neglected. But this is a puncture for the commanders, not the soldiers. I hope these "commanders" got what they deserved, so that others would be discouraged!
                      21. The comment was deleted.
                      22. Oboz
                        Oboz 20 February 2014 07: 37
                        0
                        Diligent preservation of the USSR Armed Forces charter in the field of guard duty is carefully preserved! An orderly with a plasma bayonet-knife observes the peace of the company (100 people - sleeping)! ??? !!!! As before - get dressed (45 sec) try to get a weapon, then ammunition, wait for the team to load stores, etc. ??
                      23. Stanislas
                        Stanislas 20 February 2014 01: 25
                        0
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        in the rear
                        Maybe this is generally radio intelligence?
                      24. 31231
                        31231 19 February 2014 19: 14
                        +4
                        Scouting ...

                        Strange reconnaissance. Especially the officers who could not use the PMs. Especially if the attack began with an assault on the checkpoint, rather than weapons.

                        Our battalion several times with the Caucasians had a massive snack, so our duty officer flew up when many had already fished with PM, thrashed into the air and that was enough.
                        There was a conflict when Caucasians decided to pull up civilian horsemen. So immediately with a battalion, three armed officers began to walk. Well, of course, our battalion was not a gift for Dzhigits.
                  2. 31231
                    31231 19 February 2014 19: 07
                    +2
                    http://www.trud.ru/article/29-01-2009/221712_v_samare_za_napadenie_na_voinskuju_


                    chast_osuzhdeny.html


                    What even opened a weapon?
                    And where were the officers on duty in parts and companies?
                    1. Marine One
                      Marine One 20 February 2014 01: 05
                      +2
                      Quote: 31231
                      And where were the officers on duty in parts and companies?


                      That's about it. This very fine and witty discussion comes down to exactly the one I voiced question: what are the personnel and reconnaissance commanders who allow such tricks on their territory? In other words, if the service is carried out through one backseat, then there will not be a long time to lose a nuclear missile.
                  3. alicante11
                    alicante11 20 February 2014 07: 26
                    +1
                    How how? Easy and laid back. Have you already forgotten the story of the capture of the reconnaissance barracks near Samara (military unit 65349) by a handful of Dagestanis?
                    http://www.trud.ru/article/29-01-2009/221712_v_samare_za_napadenie_na_voinskuju_

                    chast_osuzhdeny.html


                    Something about the reconnaissance company said nothing. Just military unit and the number that you indicated is not there. In general, for the early 2000s (not for 2008), this is a typical situation. At our CAF base, too, the dags of the contract soldiers were frowning, the salary was taken away, I was still fucking crazy. Even the newspapers wrote about it. Then it somehow died out, it seems, they explained all the same to the "horsemen" what for what.
                2. 222222
                  222222 19 February 2014 13: 23
                  +8
                  DanaF1 RU Today, 11:51 ↑ New
                  it just doesn't fit and that's it ... "
                  what doesn’t fit? .. the fighter has family-wives, children, old people there. They already threaten him with reprisal ... The military will not go down to the level of fascists and intimidate the Banderlog families ..
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 13: 34
                    +13
                    Quote: 222222
                    The military will not descend to the level of the Nazis and intimidate the Banderlog families ..

                    maybe it is necessary?
                  2. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 19 February 2014 13: 40
                    +19
                    Quote: 222222
                    the soldier has family-wives, children, old people there. They are already threatening him with reprisals ... The military will not go down to the level of fascists and intimidate the Banderlog families ..

                    When the withdrawal of weapons from the units begins (Chechnya, 1992), and the search for those disloyal to the slogan "Heroiyam Sala!", Many of them will remember these days.
                    1. Niki
                      Niki 19 February 2014 14: 08
                      +12
                      So the fires in the captured parts as if hinting at the destruction of traces after the theft of weapons, so the withdrawal can be considered a fait accompli.
                    2. officer29
                      officer29 19 February 2014 23: 46
                      +2
                      You remembered Chechnya in the 90s in time! And, please, remember when, during the military confrontation, the "Czechs" called not only your name, but the name of your wife, children and full home address! And what is the trench truth? After all, Ukraine is not a very large country, where there are guarantees that you will not have a supporter of the fascists at home!
                3. IRBIS
                  IRBIS 19 February 2014 15: 32
                  +20
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  it just doesn’t fit in my head how a crowd of poorly armed thugs can capture a military unit armed to the teeth ...

                  With minor amendments - all this reminds of Chechnya at the very beginning. Rallies, seizures of buildings. Then the seizure of military units, warehouses (the military did not shoot, the "people" were sorry). The result is well-armed militants and ten years of war. To begin with, the disassembly was inside, and then it started !!! Almost everything is repeated one to one.
                4. dr.star75
                  dr.star75 19 February 2014 21: 50
                  +5
                  I agree 100%. guards? grandmother Dusya with a rag? or military? what the fuck is the military? how this army will fight with the enemy if it cannot protect itself from ordinary bandits. Non-execution of the guard command: shooting to kill + raising the whole part by alarm. and they arrange negotiations with them! am
                  1. Vladimir 70
                    Vladimir 70 19 February 2014 23: 08
                    +7
                    .Who guards? grandmother Dusya with a rag? or military? what the fuck is the military?
                    You will laugh, but the Army has not guarded itself for a long time. They are gaining the type of VOKhRavtsev, who did not serve any shlupen .....
                    1. Vladimir 70
                      Vladimir 70 19 February 2014 23: 40
                      +8
                      I will add. I met 5 years ago, when the Army itself was still guarding itself, a colleague from the garrison near Dnepropetrovsk (Cherkassky and Guards) from where the paratroopers went to Kiev to defend. He told. When they entered the outfit in the fleet of military vehicles, they suspected something was wrong with their divorce behavior, they could not understand what they wanted from them, although they were contract soldiers. Warriors not only from other units, but also from other parts. Fashion was then recruiting overtime. Already in the outfit talked with the fighters. All these soldiers from the clogged western villages and the Army did not serve urgent. So one said bluntly: only I’ll come home, I’m sleeping in a military hut, promised a salary, an apartment, a wife ... - I deceived, a bastard ... These fighters could not understand what they want from them and what they are doing here ...
                    2. officer29
                      officer29 19 February 2014 23: 49
                      +1
                      Yeah! Outsourcing is called! am
                    3. Orik
                      Orik 20 February 2014 01: 00
                      +2
                      Quote: Vladimir 70
                      You will laugh, but the Army has not guarded itself for a long time. They are gaining the type of VOKhRavtsev, who did not serve any shlupen .....

                      No, we almost cry. If the army does not guard anyone, then soon another army will guard you.
                      1. internatio
                        internatio 20 February 2014 03: 30
                        +3
                        In Ukraine, the situation is almost like in "Boy-kibalchish" and there are cartridges, but there is no one to shoot ... Only worse: the Russian population is disarmed as much as possible, but the "offended" ...
              2. tank64rus
                tank64rus 19 February 2014 18: 18
                +22
                In 1990 they wanted to send me the battalion commander to the fire battalion in Baku. I said to the general, "If the crowd tries to disarm my unit again, and this happened, and there will be a danger for my Soldiers, I, as a Commander, will give the order to fire on the defeat." How many screams there were, I went to Siberia. Don't make the same mistakes, lads.
                1. officer29
                  officer29 19 February 2014 23: 58
                  +7
                  Lucky! To Siberia! Sent home! And me for such words - on a demo! am And before that, they went home in full combat ammunition, with AK-74 and PM, grenades and flares in case of an attack. In the town of DOS there was a constant guard, near each entrance there was an armored personnel carrier with a crew and full ammunition. And there was an order: to shoot to kill in case of a clear attack! But there was no emergency mode, it was just a difficult situation in the region! And no one jerked at us! But in part, everything was wild to the contrary !!! am
              3. tank64rus
                tank64rus 19 February 2014 18: 18
                +1
                In 1990 they wanted to send me the battalion commander to the fire battalion in Baku. I said to the general, "If the crowd tries to disarm my unit again, and this happened, and there will be a danger for my Soldiers, I, as a Commander, will give the order to fire on the defeat." How many screams there were, I went to Siberia. Don't make the same mistakes, lads.
            2. officer29
              officer29 19 February 2014 12: 34
              +16
              Quote: DanaF1
              the invaders there would have died the death of the brave,

              Unfortunately, when capturing, only the defenders in the unit would die often! What an incentive a soldier has to protect when the Guarantor of the Constitution of Ukraine sold it!
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 12: 39
                +5
                Quote: officer29
                Unfortunately, when capturing, only the defenders in the unit would die often!

                attacking is always more difficult than defending, especially if the defenders are better armed ...
                Quote: officer29
                What is the incentive for a soldier to protect,

                save your life and health?
            3. Uncle
              Uncle 19 February 2014 15: 22
              +23
              Quote: DanaF1
              just imagine that we would try to capture a military unit ...

              I served in Lviv and imagine how it would have looked in the Soviet years ... They would have raised a part by alarm, handed out weapons and put all this evil spirits.
            4. tasey
              tasey 19 February 2014 16: 03
              +2
              That's for sure...
            5. RND
              RND 19 February 2014 16: 45
              +2
              Quote: DanaF1
              Quote: predator.3
              in Lvov captured a military unit with a weapon, soon this weapon will be in Kiev

              but it really amazes me ...

              just imagine that we would try to capture a military unit ...
              yes the invaders there would have died the death of the brave, right at the fence ...

              Quote: DanaF1
              Quote: predator.3
              in Lvov captured a military unit with a weapon, soon this weapon will be in Kiev

              but it really amazes me ...

              just imagine that we would try to capture a military unit ...
              yes the invaders there would have died the death of the brave, right at the fence ...

              Not the death of the brave, but the death of the dolbs @@ bov !!!
            6. Basarev
              Basarev 19 February 2014 18: 43
              +2
              The death of the brave is unlikely to have been much more likely to fall in the most miserable way.
          2. Kazakhstan
            Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 01
            +1
            Useful links

            Nikolai Starikov
            About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
            About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
            A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

            As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
            In great detail about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: SV Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Everyone MUST read: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
            What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
          3. Basarev
            Basarev 19 February 2014 18: 42
            +3
            Machiavelli wrote in a very similar way: "The war cannot be prevented, it can only be delayed - to the advantage of the enemy"
          4. internatio
            internatio 20 February 2014 03: 17
            +1
            People, stop this hatred! ... for self-defense not. It is important that so far it is relatively stable. But for how long? On Wednesday, stickers from the OUN warning were torn down in Simferopol. We regarded these stickers as a provocation and a factor of psychological pressure. But after all, children read these bamazhki ...
        4. biglow
          biglow 19 February 2014 09: 41
          +61
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          I am on the territory of Western Ukraine controlled by Banderovites. I will not say more precisely. my life depends on it. The fact that I have a profile of Zaporozhye (camouflage), I left this region on my head in the summer. crying

          As a person with a historical education, and having a crush on the local mentality, I know that they will come after me (since I am Russian, and I continue to speak defiantly in Russian) when they finish with the communists and regionalists. While there is much to run, and even easier, but there are some personal obligations that you can’t say publicly.

          The article looked through fluently. I don’t know if it was written or not that a cop moved several times in Kiev, and also that a traffic police squad was shot at?

          In short, brothers and sisters, Syria came to Ukraine. Want to be for you ala "Elena Gromova?" I think with warming, the militants will also pour in. There is almost no frost in Ukraine even at night. Or a warrior of Russia behind enemy lines? I'm shaking, it's not a dream. am

          Nevsky doesn’t leave from yet. Bendera Kiev will not be able to capture Kiev anyway and will roll back to Galicia and will dispel anger at all who come to hand. And the locals will surrender you, I served in the army there, I know these people well .... Do not risk your health and life
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 20 February 2014 01: 43
            +2
            Quote: biglow
            will vent anger on everyone who comes to hand
            Exactly. "Axis ty, mock, and spіymavsya (C)"
        5. Bismark
          Bismark 19 February 2014 09: 49
          +30
          Photo 18.02.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX Kiev
          This is not a golden eagle, but it is on the Maidan


          They called the fighters.! The guys say there is an order .... They can’t get through because of the fire. Many of the victims were 7 !!!
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 11: 35
            +2
            Quote: Bismark
            They can’t get through because of the fire.

            what nonsense?
            fill them with foam and all things ...
            Naturally, gasoline and tires are not extinguished by water ...
            1. Bismark
              Bismark 19 February 2014 11: 51
              +6
              Quote: DanaF1
              Quote: Bismark
              They can’t get through because of the fire.

              what nonsense?
              fill them with foam and all things ...
              Naturally, gasoline and tires are not extinguished by water ...


              I answer your nonsense. Here is the video where they set fire to the APC. Drive fire trucks there so that they would be burned. Similar shots were in Arab countries, the video can be found if you work hard.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjDfxrZQTPs
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 12: 00
                +2
                Quote: Bismark
                I answer your nonsense. Here is the video where they set fire to the APC. Drive fire trucks there and burn them

                fire engines have such crap - the sleeves are called, how do you think they extinguish high-category fires? in dense or what?
                and nobody canceled fire helicopters ...
                1. Bismark
                  Bismark 19 February 2014 12: 20
                  +4
                  fire engines have such crap - the sleeves are called, how do you think they extinguish high-category fires? in dense or what?
                  and nobody canceled fire helicopters ...

                  If it were possible, these actions would have already been taken, or maybe taken, but it was ineffective. In these matters I am not an expert. But I do not think that the security forces and firefighters are happy with what is happening on the Maidan, and they delay its dispersal.
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 12: 40
                    +2
                    Quote: Bismark
                    If it were possible, these actions would have already been taken, or maybe taken, but it was ineffective.

                    not "if it were possible", but if there was a desire or an order ...

                    and this is a completely different conversation ...
                    1. Egoza
                      Egoza 19 February 2014 12: 54
                      +13
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      and this is a completely different conversation ...

                      Do not forget that the House of Trade Unions is on fire - this is a huge 9-storey building! And they still have not extinguished, but now - the building of the Kiev Tchaikovsky Conservatory has caught fire, according to the metropolitan department of the State Emergency Service. “The fire broke out in a pile of firewood, which is located near the building of the conservatory. Rescuers from the side of the hotel "Ukraine" serve a barrel to protect the building. Employees of the conservatory are also trying to extinguish the flame on their own, ”rescuers said. Earlier that night, tents were on fire near the conservatory. Bonfires were burning near the tree and the stele of Independence. Recall that the House of Trade Unions in Kiev has not yet been extinguished - it has been burning since the night. The building collapsed between the 4th and 5th floors.
                      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-138984.html
                      1. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 13: 07
                        +2
                        Quote: Egoza
                        Recall that the House of Trade Unions in Kiev has not yet been extinguished - it has been burning since night. The building collapsed between the floors 4 and 5.

                        and if they had dispersed this maydaun, would they put it out?

                        as I understand it, the problem there is that firefighters cannot get close to the building, there are bandits there ...
                      2. Egoza
                        Egoza 19 February 2014 14: 06
                        +3
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        as I understand it, the problem there is that firefighters cannot get close to the building, there are bandits there ...

                        Not. They already saved everyone, but they can’t extinguish it, and 80 equipment has already been used, there is not enough stock of quenchers, and the Conservatory is nearby.
                      3. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 14: 21
                        +3
                        Quote: Egoza
                        the supply of quenchers is not enough, yes + the Conservatory is nearby.

                        Well, as I understand it, there’s not just fire ... but it is fueled by catalysts (such as gasoline) ...
                        on our TV they said that in the trade union building there was generally an ammunition depot ...
                      4. 31231
                        31231 19 February 2014 19: 24
                        0
                        Well, as I understand it, there’s not just fire ... but it is fueled by catalysts (such as gasoline) ...
                        on our TV they said that in the trade union building there was generally an ammunition depot ...


                        It seems to me that it’s just that the building’s configuration is such that it really cannot be shed.
                      5. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 19: 48
                        0
                        Quote: 31231
                        It seems to me that it’s just that the building’s configuration is such that it really cannot be shed.

                        may be...

                        but the bandits operating around do not speed up this process at all ...
                      6. tasey
                        tasey 19 February 2014 18: 38
                        +8
                        We would have dispersed it on time - nothing would have burned there at all!
                  2. Current 72
                    Current 72 20 February 2014 01: 33
                    +1
                    Bismarck! From your comments it follows that for security officials and firefighters, this is just another training, in non-natural conditions, and they are happy about it. Well, you give!
                2. Dmitry Toderes
                  Dmitry Toderes 19 February 2014 23: 02
                  +1
                  1. Perhaps there are simply no fire helicopters.
                  2. I assume the distance at which the fire hoses hit (well, with a stream of water) does not exceed the flight range of a bottle with a Molotov cocktail, or a stone, brick, etc., and therefore firefighters are afraid to approach.
                  3.Can all the calculations be busy? There are many questions, answer options too.
                  Hardly anyone can give a reliable answer here. But tires are a trifle.
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 20 February 2014 16: 04
                    0
                    Quote: Dimastik
                    But tires are a trifle.

                    tires are poison ...
                3. Vasek
                  Vasek 20 February 2014 00: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  and nobody canceled fire helicopters ...

                  Be-12P is a fire-fighting aircraft developed in the TANTK named after G.M.Beriev on the basis of the Be-12 anti-submarine amphibious aircraft. When developing an aircraft designed to extinguish forest fires, its ability to quickly fill special containers with water using the intake device was used, gliding along the surface suitable reservoir for these purposes.

                  In my opinion, the Dnieper is a very "suitable reservoir" for these purposes.
                  Yes, and in Sevastopol (or Novorossiysk) they are.
                  If only the Slavic brothers would ask laughing
          2. Dmitry Toderes
            Dmitry Toderes 19 February 2014 22: 55
            0
            What kind of fighters are these? Why are there no stripes? Which side are they on?
        6. RusKaz
          RusKaz 19 February 2014 09: 50
          +31
          hold on, Nevsky!
          1. Kazakhstan
            Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 07
            +5
            Hang on, Nevsky !!!!!
        7. cosmos111
          cosmos111 19 February 2014 10: 20
          +27
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Or a warrior of Russia behind enemy lines?

          hold on Nevsky, Bandera >>>> this is a beast, a hobbit sense (((
          will be cut Russian, with particular cruelty ((((
          they already have experience, the massacres of the Russians, in Grozny in 94-95 years ((((

          that, you can advise, just that there would always be F-1 with you, it’s better not to get alive to them (Bandera) (((
          1. Navy7981
            Navy7981 19 February 2014 19: 21
            +5
            where does the "hobbits", this is the usual crowd which said "kill, kill, kill ..." and you will not get anything for it. Does any of them come up with a question, and what will happen next? And they are not at all afraid of the blood, because behind their backs everything: both democrats, and liberals, and defenders of the rights of the Nazis, damn it was wrong, a man, and pi ... you, and Islamists, and Uniates, and AMERICA itself, and many others "honest and truthful" people. And pay attention to how quickly people with any education and upbringing slide down to infinite cruelty.
        8. zzz
          zzz 19 February 2014 10: 28
          +30
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          While there is where to run, it’s easy, but there are some personal obligations that you won’t publicly say.


          Nevsky, take your personal circumstances with you, and correctly, Egoza said, go away, the Russians in the first place. And do not become your back to anyone.
        9. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 19 February 2014 10: 41
          +17
          Depart, you return home and you will soon fit in, someone else needs to defend his native hut.
        10. Arbatov
          Arbatov 19 February 2014 11: 22
          +13
          Hold on, buddy Nevsky! I’m sorry if I didn’t have time to get the trunk.
        11. Alex toll
          Alex toll 19 February 2014 11: 29
          +13
          Nevsky - get a weapon for self-defense !!!! Get together in a bunch of like-minded people and hang on !!! Alone in the field is not a warrior !!!!!
        12. limmor
          limmor 19 February 2014 12: 24
          +6
          Hold on, help if possible!
          1. atalef
            atalef 19 February 2014 14: 33
            +9
            Quote: limmor
            Hold on, help if possible!

            How do you help that ??
            Will you put a couple of likes on Facebook?
            The time has come to help, so gather people and go help.
            And then you will cry and yell - pr .. or polymers.
        13. cdrt
          cdrt 19 February 2014 12: 34
          +7
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          I am on the territory of Western Ukraine controlled by Banderovites. I will not say more precisely. my life depends on it. The fact that I have a profile of Zaporozhye (camouflage), I left this region on my head in the summer. crying

          As a person with a historical education, and having a crush on the local mentality, I know that they will come after me (since I am Russian, and I continue to speak defiantly in Russian) when they finish with the communists and regionalists. While there is much to run, and even easier, but there are some personal obligations that you can’t say publicly.

          The article looked through fluently. I don’t know if it was written or not that a cop moved several times in Kiev, and also that a traffic police squad was shot at?

          In short, brothers and sisters, Syria came to Ukraine. Want to be for you ala "Elena Gromova?" I think with warming, the militants will also pour in. There is almost no frost in Ukraine even at night. Or a warrior of Russia behind enemy lines? I'm shaking, it's not a dream. am


          Leave the FIG from there (in the sense of the east - even to Kharkov, even to the Crimea, even to the Russian Federation. Take loved ones from there too. The Russians will be the first to cut this trash
        14. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 19 February 2014 12: 34
          +11
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          I am in the territory controlled by Bandera Western Ukraine. More precisely


          Hold on bro. Speak on now on ridnaya mov. It is better to gather everyone in an armful at once and, shouting "to the maida for Vilna Ukraine", break into the east or to Odessa in case of emergency.
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 19 February 2014 18: 58
            +3
            Nevsky. You have a difficult journey through the whole country. Grab all your relatives and friends and move to the Crimea. South-East of Ukraine is a reliable stronghold of Russians. There you will be safe.
        15. atalef
          atalef 19 February 2014 14: 29
          +6
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          In short, brothers and sisters, Syria came to Ukraine

          Gather reliable people, post at the Telegraph Telegraph, mail at banks and wine stores
          In general, the mother-in-law from Kiev says - a real war. They shoot in the center, everything burns, nobody controls anyone. Elderly people are afraid of robberies and motherhood.
          In general, it’s somehow strange ho --- ly (sorry, I can’t call it another way) to Europe laughing
          Sick people - or brutalized from the whole mess over the past years, or is it in their blood.
          To destroy that country is simple, to restore who will be.
          Maybe it's time to stop?
          So, even without fat, they will leave me crying I certainly won’t forgive them.
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 19 February 2014 15: 27
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            In general, my mother-in-law from Kiev says - a real war

            For the mother-in-law is not afraid? Fat in Russia is good.
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            2. atalef
              atalef 19 February 2014 18: 12
              0
              Quote: Uncle
              For the mother-in-law is not afraid? Fat in Russia is good.

              Well, let’s figure it out with bacon, it’s a pity with the mother-in-law.
        16. Alex 241
          Alex 241 19 February 2014 15: 06
          +10
          Information for Nevsky_ZU As an option, move towards the Russian Consulate, here are the coordinates of the Consulate General of Russia in Lviv:
          Address: 79017, Ukraine, Lviv, st. Levitsky, 95
          Tel: 275-05-77
          Fax: + 38 (0322) 44-25-25
          e-mail: [email protected]
          * Lviv region
          * Rivne region
          * Transcarpathian region
          * Khmelnitsky region
          * Ivano-Frankivsk region
          * Ternopil region
          * Chernivtsi region
          * Volyn region
        17. vadimN
          vadimN 19 February 2014 15: 47
          +5
          The silence and peace in the rest of Ukraine are striking ... Can it be that all who live on the left bank of the Dnieper do not care what power comes to Kiev ?? Quietly waiting for the old habit that they will not be affected, it will resolve itself ..? Or do we not know something?
          1. little man
            little man 19 February 2014 17: 26
            +2
            They are silent, apparently out of hatred of the authorities. Theft, corruption and hopelessness and the resulting silence of the majority.
            Will our thieves have enough intelligence or caution to stop and not provoke barricades on Sadovaya and Tverskaya?
            1. 31231
              31231 19 February 2014 19: 40
              0
              Will our thieves have enough intelligence or caution to stop and not provoke barricades on Sadovaya and Tverskaya?

              You approve of the Get Gang! in Russia, justifying revolutionaries?
              1. little man
                little man 19 February 2014 20: 36
                +2
                In no case. It is impossible to bring to SUCH. And you have a question - where do the legs grow from?
                How much can an oligarchy be fed? Here boils and broke through.
            2. tasey
              tasey 19 February 2014 20: 48
              +1
              The instinct of self-preservation ... will help, and Khodorkovsky will tell.
              1. little man
                little man 19 February 2014 21: 42
                0
                Yes, I would have Serdyuk now in a zugunder and indexed salaries instead of transfers to Kiev
          2. Basarev
            Basarev 19 February 2014 19: 00
            +1
            Left-bank defense is being strengthened. To create reliable protection is a quick and troublesome business.
          3. Dmitry Toderes
            Dmitry Toderes 19 February 2014 23: 12
            +3
            "The silence and tranquility in the rest of Ukraine is striking ... Really everyone who lives on the left bank of the Dnieper does not care what kind of power will come to Kiev ??"

            My hut from the edge - I do not know anyone. Ukrainian proverb.
            Although how do you know that the rest of Ukraine is calm? Have you been to every city?
        18. Basarev
          Basarev 19 February 2014 18: 19
          +1
          Hold on, brother. When they come for you - kill them as many as possible, preferably everyone, in the current situation. It’s time to drop sentiments.
        19. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 19 February 2014 18: 37
          +4
          Nevsky
          Hold on BROTHER, KEEP.
          There is an opportunity to leave from there, no-fight.
          But it’s better, now, go away, these animals need blood, MUCH blood.
        20. Taidrem
          Taidrem 19 February 2014 20: 44
          +3
          What can I say, be strong. In general, it is very strange how they behave, I have a feeling that the Galicians have this sadism in the blood. Once they have tasted the blood, they become wild and demand even more! This is very bad because someday someone will get tired of it and they will simply destroy all Galicians under the root ... It would be better if they stopped while there is still an opportunity.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 19 February 2014 21: 51
            +3
            Quote: Taidrem
            the Galicians have this sadism in the blood. Once they have tasted the blood, they become wild and demand even more!

            In Lutsk, the head of the Volyn Regional State Administration, Alexander Bashkalenko, was handcuffed to the scene of the local Maidan. He is required to write a letter of resignation. These demands began even near the premises of the regional police department, which the crowd had already captured. Bashkalenko went out to the people with the head of the regional department of internal affairs, Alexander Tereshchuk. A crowd of thousands began to chant: “On your knees!” And “Bashkalenko - in a pre-trial detention center!” An enraged crowd nevertheless threw the chairman of the Regional State Administration to his knees, while he broke his face. The family of the governor was also brought to Maidan. Bashkalenko refused to write a letter of resignation, and he was taken to the Euromaidan stage to publicly ask people for forgiveness there, and also on his knees. The head of the Regional State Administration claims that he can do a lot of good for Volyn. Bashkalenko was handcuffed to the stage and occasionally watered for fun for fun. Extremists intend to force Bashkalenko to write a statement in the presence of his family. He, as you know, also heads the regional organization of the Party of Regions in Volyn.
            Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139055.html
        21. 225chay
          225chay 19 February 2014 21: 25
          +1
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU

          In short, brothers and sisters, Syria came to Ukraine. Want to be for you ala "Elena Gromova?" I think with warming, the militants will also pour in. There is almost no frost in Ukraine even at night. Or a warrior of Russia behind enemy lines? I'm shaking, it's not a dream.


          This is the Civil War !!
          Poor Ukraine ...
        22. Mih
          Mih 19 February 2014 23: 10
          +2
          Horror. The fascists are advancing.
        23. Crimean
          Crimean 20 February 2014 00: 55
          +5
          NEVSKY, KEEP FRIEND !!! Unfortunately, the Gestapo has returned, and for you they can come at any minute! SO IT'S TIME TO FELL FROM THIS BANDERLOGIAN EXTREME (THESE SCRAGS ONLY FOR YOUR RUSSIAN MAY BE KILLED). And ONE IN THE FIELD IS NOT A WARRIOR (TESTED). COME TO CRIMEA- HEAT, SEA AND BANDERLOGO NO good WE LOVE RUSSIANS (AND SOME) hi AT ALL, AS ONE CHARACTER- GUYS SAID, LET'S LIVE FRIENDLY !!! fellow
        24. Stanislas
          Stanislas 20 February 2014 02: 08
          0
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          warrior of Russia behind enemy lines?
          In Russia they spoke, one is not a warrior in the field. If it’s light, it’s better to slowly move east, collecting intelligence along the way smile
        25. BLACK-SHARK-64
          BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 11
          0
          not everyone writes, fascists need to be wet ...
        26. comrade Bitch
          comrade Bitch 23 February 2014 21: 30
          0
          cross and oversleep .. Syria will not wait.
          in fact, can you imagine extremists going to death with state symbols and a hymn?
          in the occupied territory of the USSR in 1942-43 the Nazis had a similar rhetoric to the partisans. do not catch analogies?
      2. domokl
        domokl 19 February 2014 09: 06
        +60
        I’m wondering what intelligence doesn’t work for Berkut? It’s enough to turn on jammers so that the telephone Internet and other communications do not work, remove the journalists, and right now we need to start cleaning ...
        Peace went to work, and the rest can be cleaned up ... Television shows that the majority are wearing helmets ... So the militants.
        1. bairat
          bairat 19 February 2014 09: 28
          +41
          Quote: domokl
          from me it’s interesting that intelligence doesn’t work for Berkut? It’s enough to turn on jammers so that the telephone Internet and other communications do not work, remove the journalists, and right now we need to start cleaning ...

          Not Golden Eagle makes such decisions. The moral forces to endure this mockery, judging by the faces of the policemen, are over, they will either deal with the militants themselves or abandon everything and go home. Well, until they stand under a hail of stones and burning bottles of gasoline? This is not a single psyche can not stand.
          1. Lapotnik
            Lapotnik 19 February 2014 10: 19
            +9
            There is an idea that having dealt with Bandera, the security forces will sort out the government and the prezik. And there will be a military coup. Maybe for this they do not give an order to bring it to the zugunder. And since the coup - and they will declare it like that, will be the foreign invaders, oh, excuse me, democratic forces, since they are already under arms.
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          3. moremansf
            moremansf 19 February 2014 10: 19
            +25
            Yanukovych has a complete loss of government !!! Again, he invites everyone to the negotiating table, and law enforcement officers die on the streets, firearms are already used against them, the conservatory is on fire, the House of Trade Unions is again seized by the Kyiv City Hall, the metro is not working, the center is completely paralyzed ... Ternopol, Lviv - the buildings of the regional prosecutor’s office are seized ... Minister of Health of Ukraine ... What else is needed to declare a state of emergency in the country !!! All this is a clear harbinger of civil war, as Nevsky writes - SYRIA COME TO UKRAINE !!!
          4. domokl
            domokl 19 February 2014 12: 59
            +17
            Quote: bairat
            Not Golden Eagle makes such decisions.

            I agree about the assault. But the commander is obliged to take all possible measures to ensure not only the fulfillment of the combat mission, but also the preservation of personnel. It is the commander, not the uncle, of the president.
            What ram did the defenseless armored personnel carrier launch under the bottles of gas? Also Yanukovych? No, it seems to me that gradually, feeling betrayal from all sides, the Golden Eagle is demoralizing. Emotions gain the upper hand over a cold head. And you can’t fight in this state. And then these periodic speeches about that maydauns know where the families of the Berkut soldiers live, the threat of attack, the killing of soldiers who fell into the hands of the enemy ...
            The trench warfare, when they die simply because the war never led to victory ... Only the offensive and destruction of the enemy ... Victory at the tip of a bayonet, not in a trench .. As it was under Suvorov, it remains so now. Moreover, it'll be this way forever...
            1. Kazakhstan
              Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 11
              +1
              I completely agree.
            2. Basarev
              Basarev 19 February 2014 19: 03
              +2
              Inspiring words. Right now, even ready to take a gun in his hands and go to Ukraine to eradicate this evil.
              1. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 19: 19
                0
                Quote: Basarev
                Inspiring words. Right now, even ready to take a gun in his hands and go to Ukraine to eradicate this evil.


                It seems to be complaining about eyesight? Or am I mistaken?
                1. Basarev
                  Basarev 19 February 2014 22: 04
                  0
                  I do not deny my words. Yes, with my eyesight, everything is not so smooth. But! The simple rise of patriotism, coupled with a figure of speech and a real military campaign are not synonyms!
        2. Niki
          Niki 19 February 2014 10: 23
          +13
          Jammers will not turn on until there are still foreign embassies in the center of Kiev without evacuation. In the same way, broadcasting is underway. Since it takes time anyway for a physical confrontation, the information field will be left muted. The metro was finally blocked - this is a real step. It is necessary to cut off the centers of banditry from supply bases - this is also real and necessary. The building was burnt down close to the Maidan - there will be no warehouses and temporary accommodation points there. As soon as electricity is cut off, physical jammers are not needed. From this area only single messages will remain.

          I am almost 100% sure that there will soon be no "foreign" journalists on the Maidan. The reports say that two dozen have already been beaten ...

          I also noticed that one of the maydanutyh deputies wrote on the internet about some "ours" on the Maidan. Those. for these activists and maydanutyh deputies, everything is actually divided into "friends" and "aliens." They may not publicly admit this, but the bridges have already been burned for them - they have burned them in their heads.
          They are not going to return back.

          The only question is, how far are "they" ready to go and where in fact will they reach or, more precisely, will they be led?
          1. ATATA
            ATATA 19 February 2014 13: 42
            +9
            Quote: Niki
            Jammers will not be turned on until there are still foreign embassies in the center of Kiev without evacuation.

            In the embassies special communications, including wired, including optics for them jammers FS.
            1. Niki
              Niki 19 February 2014 14: 36
              +2
              Not for this, it is necessary to suppress the connection in the embassies, but to leave it unattended, so that ALL embassies, and in general all those interested in the truth, would have information about the negotiations of lawless people, as well as direct reports from hot spots. Those. Special forces for themselves are confident that its force is being applied fairly.
        3. zzz
          zzz 19 February 2014 10: 35
          +4
          Quote: domokl
          I’m wondering what intelligence doesn’t work for Berkut? It’s enough to turn on jammers so that the telephone Internet and other communications do not work, remove the journalists, and right now we need to start cleaning ...
          Peace went to work, and the rest can be cleaned up ... Television shows that the majority are wearing helmets ... So the militants.


          For this, an order is needed. And who orders to whom it orders - we do not know this.
        4. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 11: 39
          +2
          Quote: domokl
          I’m wondering what intelligence doesn’t work for Berkut? It’s enough to turn on jammers so that the telephone Internet and other communications do not work, remove the journalists, and right now we need to start cleaning ...

          Yes, Berkut nothing works along the way ...

          I have not yet seen such a mediocre assault, the maydauns turned out better ...

          and in general, explain to me knowledgeable people how to bombard armored personnel carriers with molotava cocktails, if in general it is intended for warfare with more seriously armed opponents ...
          1. Niki
            Niki 19 February 2014 12: 55
            +15
            BTR - armored transopter. The use of combat is not recommended if the enemy uses anti-tank weapons. For the delivery of personnel (riflemen) of motorized rifle (infantry, motorized infantry, landing, and so on) units, materiel to the place of fulfillment of the assigned combat mission.

            Molotov cocktail is considered quite an effective anti-tank tool. To save a tank or armored personnel carrier from cocktails, infantry fire support is required, which keeps attackers far enough away from tanks. In general, it’s a bad idea to drive an APC into a crowd of people who are waiting ...

            By the way, in the hundreds of fighting on the Independence Square, fighters with bottles are called grenadiers, which can be considered a term that corresponds to their weapons and tactics on the battlefield. Quote from wiki
            Hand grenades used to be called “grenades” or “grenades”; they were a hollow cast-iron ball filled with gunpowder, with a wick and they were used to throw hands on enemy fortifications. Given the short range of the flight of Grenada, the fighter was required a maximum of courage, resourcefulness, fearlessness and dexterity to get to the right distance. From grenadies, the name of units using this type of weapon went. Subsequently, the grenadiers began to be called selected units of the linear infantry


            It can also be said for sure that if a person with a burning bottle in his hand gets into the field of view of a police special forces in the USA or the EU, then fire will be fired at him - immediately and without any orders and approvals from above.
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 13: 09
              +1
              Quote: Niki
              Molotov cocktail is considered quite an effective anti-tank tool. To save a tank or armored personnel carrier from cocktails, infantry fire support is required, which keeps attackers far enough away from tanks. In general, it’s a bad idea to drive an APC into a crowd of people who are waiting ...

              understandably...
              I generally thought that the APC was screwing up tight ...
              1. tilovaykrisa
                tilovaykrisa 19 February 2014 13: 29
                +7
                It is really tightly screwed up because it is designed (developed) to work in the zone of destruction of chemical weapons, but the burning temperature of their cocktails is so high that the crew cannot be inside the car + choking.
                1. Danafxnumx
                  Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 13: 34
                  +2
                  Quote: tilovaykrisa
                  inside the car + choking.

                  ahh, okay ... thanks!
                2. 31231
                  31231 19 February 2014 19: 58
                  +1
                  I still do not understand the use of armored personnel carriers ?! Why then flew to the barricade. Did he want to fly into it or scoop it up ?! Some kind of gesture of despair from the Golden Eagle.
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 20: 02
                    0
                    Quote: 31231
                    Did he want to fly into it or scoop it up ?! Some kind of gesture of despair from the Golden Eagle.

                    I understand that they wanted to ram her ...

                    although what is the meaning of this is not clear ... not a fortification building is being stormed ...
            2. tilovaykrisa
              tilovaykrisa 19 February 2014 13: 27
              +7
              They’re not throwing bottles of gas there but this:
            3. Kazakhstan
              Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 14
              0
              I agree. The confusion in giving orders from the leadership, which led to such stupidity.
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      3. builder
        builder 19 February 2014 09: 10
        +7
        Under the pavement ... in a thin layer
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      5. Scandinavian
        Scandinavian 19 February 2014 09: 16
        +19
        What the fuck is the West? Enough to think and speak in cliches. Bendery trash tasted the blood, and now it can only be stopped by spreading a thin layer along the pavement.

        Bandera, in turn, live on the money of the 4-th Reich and the committee of the 300-sot. Therefore, grandmas come from the West. It is the West that is interested in attracting nationalist movements in Ukraine .... Anarchy is his hobby ...
        1. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 16
          0
          Useful links

          Nikolai Starikov
          About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
          About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
          A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

          As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
          In great detail about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: SV Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Everyone MUST read: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
          What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
      6. Fin
        Fin 19 February 2014 09: 17
        +44
        If one more day the Golden Eagle is not given the command to disperse by all means, then they will simply leave. How much can you watch how the comrades standing nearby are killed. And therefore Yanyku end, rag, follow.
        1. NEMO
          NEMO 19 February 2014 09: 36
          +51
          Quote: Fin
          If one more day the Golden Eagle is not given the command to disperse by all means

          Yesterday, after Berkut began "cleansing" Grushevsky, it seemed that at last "The ice was broken." This morning, I turned on a live broadcast from the center of Kiev, in full confidence that I would see dump trucks taking out mountains of garbage and an army of janitors with brooms, but my optimism quickly disappeared at the sight of the "maydanut" drinking coffee and eating porridge, heated right there on the coals. AND political impotent Yanukovych continues to make regular "decisive" statements and conduct "consultations" ... Yanukovych - Amoeba unicellular
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 19 February 2014 11: 05
            +20
            Quote: NEMO
            Yanukovych - Unicellular amoeba

            Exactly.
            I watched the speech.CH.M.O
            1. wasjasibirjac
              wasjasibirjac 19 February 2014 11: 39
              +7
              Quote: NEMO
              Yanukovych - Unicellular amoeba

              biologically not true - amoeba, but multicellular. such a refinement of biology.
          2. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 11: 44
            +8
            Quote: NEMO
            Yanukovych continues to make regular "decisive" statements and conduct "consultations" ... Yanukovych - Amoeba unicellular

            I have already said more than once that the only option for Berkut and the Ministry of Internal Affairs is to seize power and impose martial law ...

            Well, what the fuck is such and such?
          3. Kazakhstan
            Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 17
            +4
            He had to escape in women's clothing as Kerensky.
        2. GrayL
          GrayL 19 February 2014 10: 12
          +19
          Yeah ... as usual, the betrayal rules ... everything is like ours in 91-93 ... then we screamed that all the security forces were traitors ... and that was exactly WE ...
      7. sssla
        sssla 19 February 2014 09: 18
        +22
        Quote: rolik2
        What the fuck is the West? Enough to think and speak in cliches. Bendery trash tasted the blood, and now it can only be stopped by spreading a thin layer along the pavement.
        Yes, on the instructions and do not be naive. Without their go-ahead, they hrn-th make Smudge? Yes, we have selected floor rags. Killed cops are already in the top ten. KILLED !!! WHAT ELSE IS NEEDED?! Statements like WE ARE NOT NUNA BLOOD and at the same time on both sides two dozen killed I repeat TWENT TEN !!! What to do ? Ask the parents of the killed cops Give them a nickname for an hour - the memories will survive that once there was a champion Or Yanyka to relatives of civilians killed
      8. Nina Czerny
        Nina Czerny 19 February 2014 09: 45
        +31
        Is it not surprising that such bloody events began immediately after the return of Klitschko and Yatsenyuk from Germany, where they were received at the highest level, including Merkel? And you think that Germany has nothing to do with it?
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 11: 46
          +10
          Quote: Nina Cerny
          Is it not surprising that such bloody events began immediately after the return of Klitschko and Yatsenyuk from Germany

          I'm afraid to disappoint you, but neither Klitschko nor Yatsenyuk control the situation ...
          but where it gets orders from the truckers, it’s more interesting ...
        2. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 19
          +2
          Very much to do with.
      9. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 19 February 2014 10: 12
        +7
        Take-and-share again ... you are right, it seems that control is completely lost, and the consequences can be any. And it looks like the introduction of "peacekeeping forces" and demarcation will soon be resolved (the feeling is that, I could be wrong)
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 11: 47
          +3
          Quote: fennekRUS
          Take-and-divide again ... you are right, it seems that control is completely lost, and the consequences can be any. And it looks like the introduction of "peacekeeping forces" and demarcation will soon be decided

          someone suggested that Westerners want East Ukraine to start the separation process ...
          and not vice versa, as we expected ...
          1. fennekRUS
            fennekRUS 19 February 2014 12: 03
            +5
            On a similar scheme, you can make political capital (shifting from a sore head ..), so why not? Agree, in an unstable region, any absurdity can be carried through. But the fact that this mess is close to our borders ... it's annoying. The very direction of the development of events does not provide for a "good" way out of the current situation. It remains to choose the type of shit, sorry, which will have to get stuck. Let's follow the situation.
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 12: 42
              +3
              Quote: fennekRUS
              But the fact that this mess close to our borders ... it is annoying.

              not really yet ... in any case, they will not stick to us ...
              the only option is to raise the butch here with your own, so to speak, forces ... however, the strength is not enough ...
              Quote: fennekRUS
              It remains to choose a variety of crap, sorry, which will have to get stuck.

              this is not a fortuneteller ...
              1. fennekRUS
                fennekRUS 19 February 2014 14: 40
                +4
                Quote: DanaF1
                in any way do not turn up ...

                How much "locked" do you think the border marked in red is? For reference - in the areas marked B and K - nuclear power facilities. The information is publicly available. When a neighbor's shed is on fire, it is at least reckless to hope that sparks will not fly into your yard.
                Ps In the evening I’ll transfer to a normal hosting. The Voronezh, Belgorod regions are quite close to the Kharkiv region
                1. Danafxnumx
                  Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 14: 46
                  +1
                  Quote: fennekRUS
                  How much "locked" do you think the border marked in red is?

                  I think that the approach to the borders of armed groups will be visible from satellites and ground means ...
                  however, this does not preclude single entry ...

                  Quote: fennekRUS
                  For reference, in the areas marked B and K are objects of nuclear energy.

                  they don’t get to such objects, don’t worry ...
                  1. fennekRUS
                    fennekRUS 19 February 2014 15: 23
                    +2
                    According to the first point, buses go through the border on a schedule, a visa is not needed (this time). The border is equipped to put it mildly weaker than for example with China (these are two). So the seepage of refugees and undesirable elements, let’s say, is not very difficult. Strengthening the service, I do not see and can not hear.
                    And secondly, I work at such an object. Capture and sabotage are unlikely, but not with zero opportunity. And our authorities are in no hurry to itch.
                    1. Danafxnumx
                      Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 17: 09
                      0
                      Quote: fennekRUS
                      about the first point, buses go across the border on a schedule, a visa is not needed (this time). The border is equipped to put it mildly weaker than for example with China (these are two)

                      they cannot cross the border armed ...
                      in order to get weapons, we need ties to serious crime ...
                      where did they get such ties?

                      and even if there is, then the FSB does not sleep on anyone ...
                      1. Semen Semyonitch
                        Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 19: 32
                        0
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        they cannot cross the border armed ...
                        in order to get weapons, we need ties to serious crime ...
                        where did they get such ties?


                        Olya anneals ...
                      2. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 19: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: Semyon Semyonich
                        Olya anneals ...

                        if you have something to argue - object, give your arguments ...

                        and then the flood on the site is prohibited, if that ...
                      3. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 19: 54
                        +3
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        and then the flood on the site is prohibited, if that ...

                        Dana, but you and I also did not flood badly yesterday, if that winked
                      4. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 20: 03
                        +2
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Dana, but you and I also did not flood badly yesterday, if that

                        I remember wink

                        it’s just not clear what the person wanted to say ... to give him a plus, if he is delighted, or sculpt a minus :)))
                        I'm for a meaningful flood laughing
                      5. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 20: 20
                        0
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        it’s just not clear what the person wanted to say ... to give him a plus, if he is delighted, or sculpt a minus :)))

                        And you minus one, well, just in case laughing
                      6. Semen Semyonitch
                        Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 21: 43
                        0
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        I remember

                        I'm for a meaningful flood laughing

                        Now is a fashionable feature to start your speech with the word-SO? Do not think that I find fault. Just not you first ...
                      7. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 22: 21
                        +1
                        Quote: Semyon Semyonich
                        Now is a fashionable feature to start your speech with the word-SO? Do not think that I find fault. Just not you first ...

                        I’m probably still the first :)))
                        I have been writing this for many years ... on different sites, though ...
                      8. Semen Semyonitch
                        Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 22: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        I’m probably still the first :)))


                        TAKI convinced wink
                      9. Semen Semyonitch
                        Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 21: 40
                        +1
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        if you have something to argue - object, give your arguments ...


                        Actually, there is nothing to object ...
                  2. Semen Semyonitch
                    Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 19: 30
                    +1
                    Quote: DanaF1
                    I think that the approach to the borders of armed groups will be visible from satellites and ground means ...


                    ... as well as the size of their boots and finger tattoos wink good
                    1. Danafxnumx
                      Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 19: 52
                      +1
                      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
                      ... as well as the size of their boots and finger tattoos

                      maybe he sees, you don’t know the performance characteristics of Glonass :)
                      1. Semen Semyonitch
                        Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 21: 47
                        +2
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        maybe he sees, you don’t know the performance characteristics of Glonass :)


                        And who is the performance characteristics of Glonass? Not a local I ...
                      2. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 22: 22
                        +1
                        Quote: Semyon Semyonich
                        And who is the performance characteristics of Glonass?

                        specifications...
                        maybe he can increase 100500 times :)))
                      3. Semen Semyonitch
                        Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 22: 26
                        +2
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        specifications...


                        ... and the glory of the CPSU is not at all a man lol
                      4. Semen Semyonitch
                        Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 22: 32
                        0
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        specifications...
                        maybe he can increase 100500 times :)))


                        Looking at what area ...
                      5. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 19 February 2014 23: 25
                        +3
                        Quote: Semyon Semyonich
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        specifications...
                        maybe he can increase 100500 times :)))

                        Looking at what area ...

                        Oh well ... and Taki (for dEvushki) laughing
                        Does the satellite communication system transmit pictures?
                      6. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 23: 44
                        +1
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Does the satellite communication system transmit pictures?

                        belay Well this is a navigation system ...
                      7. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 19 February 2014 23: 58
                        +3
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        Well this is a navigation system ...

                        Olya good evening.
                      8. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 20 February 2014 00: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        Olya good evening.

                        Alexander, and good evening to you!
                      9. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 20 February 2014 00: 19
                        +2
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        Well this is a navigation system ...

                        Sorry, right - navigation, like GPS.
                        Hurt yourself ...
                        I played the entire Solovyov transmission in my head ...
                2. shark
                  shark 19 February 2014 16: 09
                  +8
                  My colleague recently drove home, to the Belgorod region. On the border with Ukraine. He beats himself in the chest, claims that at night there is a massive relocation of military equipment and trucks with hp. in the direction of the border. Most likely, we still decided to play it safe ... Or they waited for the end of the Olympiad in the Belgorod forests) 0))
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 17: 10
                    +1
                    Quote: shark
                    Or the end of the Olympics in the Belgorod forests was waiting) 0))

                    Martian guarded ... suddenly attack :))))
      10. avt
        avt 19 February 2014 10: 23
        +11
        Quote: rolik2
        Bendery trash tasted the blood,

        Well, she has specific owners.
        Quote: rolik2
        and now it can only be stopped by spreading a thin layer along the pavement.

        request Who would argue, surgically, only surgically ". But! It is not enough to have a" Berkut ", he needs a REAL leader who will take responsibility and give the order, so that he will not merge later like a humpbacked abomination in the Baltic States and Georgia. SMERSH was a real head. No wonder the gozman ran into SMERSH.
      11. siberalt
        siberalt 19 February 2014 10: 23
        +9
        The West is not guilty? Then, with whose connivance did it all begin? This is with their direct support! And now they have hidden their heads and do not want to denounce extremists. Are American boats in the Black Sea? Klitschko hit the road to Berlin, and immediately after his return pogroms and killings began. The government has run out of patience. And the West has diminished its arguments. If the authorities do not use force, a coup is inevitable.
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/489/tstd69.jpg
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 12
          .
          Quote: siberalt
          The West is not guilty? Then, with whose connivance did it all begin? This is with their direct support! And now they have hidden their heads and do not want to denounce extremists.

          They go out on the square when something gets out and there is no way to express their opinion differently. Do not assume that the terrible West is behind everything. For revolutions, an excuse is needed first. And the current Ukrainian authorities gave many not one or two reasons.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 19 February 2014 14: 23
            +14
            Quote: Pimply
            They go out on the square when something gets out and there is no way to express their opinion differently.

            Well, everyone who is offended somehow accidentally has helmets, shields, Molotov cocktails. And it is unlikely that you yourself do not understand all this. It is at such times that all scum manifests itself, don't you think so?
            1. Kazakhstan
              Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 22
              +1
              Long preparations, there was a reason.
              1. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 19: 45
                +1
                Quote: Kazakhstan
                Long preparations, there was a reason.


                A team from the regional committee has passed ...
            2. 31231
              31231 19 February 2014 20: 09
              +2
              Well, everyone who is offended somehow accidentally has helmets, shields, Molotov cocktails. And it is unlikely that you yourself do not understand all this. It is at such times that all scum manifests itself, don't you think so?

              At Pupyrchaty see only Hamas and Hizbal terrorists and scumbags. Everyone else is peaceful.
              And even more so on the Maidan. BGG. "Pregnant children".
          2. alex-s
            alex-s 19 February 2014 14: 53
            +1
            They go out on the square when something gets out and there is no way to express their opinion differently.

            Or when someone pays someone!
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      13. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 19 February 2014 12: 25
        +10
        Quote: rolik2
        Quote: Scandinavian
        Like a flock of sheep going under the pointer of the West ... Well, isn’t there a head?

        What the fuck is the West? Enough to think and speak in cliches. Bendery trash tasted the blood, and now it can only be stopped by spreading a thin layer along the pavement.


        Half of your country is made up of this trash, and the other half is ethnic Russians. Explain to me and to people how it is possible to "taste blood"? This is what should be done with a person so that he wants to "taste" blood? Do you want to say that Yanukovych personally went and brought every "oppositionist" to bloodthirstiness?

        Sheep they are, the most natural. One ram is headed, a little smarter than the others, but it will also go under the knife in due time, grub, from the owner, is free. Now the sheep were told that they had infected wolves with rabies.

        It is lucky for them that your president is impotent. If he had a member, he would have long ago built a hospital or a kindergarten on the site of the Maidan, and scattered the gopniks across the bunk.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 18
          .
          Quote: Geisenberg
          It is lucky for them that your president is impotent. If he had a member, he would have long ago built a hospital or a kindergarten on the site of the Maidan, and scattered the gopniks across the bunk.

          I would also get a war
          1. alex-s
            alex-s 19 February 2014 14: 56
            +12
            I would also get a war

            And now there’s a children's party !!! negative
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 February 2014 18: 11
              -6
              Quote: alex-s
              And now there’s a children's party !!!

              So far, yes. The war is much worse and much more victims and blood
          2. alicante11
            alicante11 20 February 2014 08: 01
            +2
            I would also get a war


            For some reason, you Jews are not afraid of war, if necessary. And why should we be afraid if we have already been attacked? Late to drink Borjomi, since the liver fell off.
      14. skullcap
        skullcap 19 February 2014 13: 25
        +10
        Quote: rolik2
        What the fuck is the West? Enough


        Meanwhile, the message:
        Quote: rolik2
        Last night, US Vice President Joe Biden called Viktor Yanukovych and demanded that he immediately begin a dialogue with the opposition, as well as withdraw the police from the streets of Kiev, reports "RT" with reference to RIA Novosti.

        clearly speaks of those who lead the events in Ukraine. The purpose of this guide is also clear - to plunge the Ukrainian people into a bloody mutually destroying war as part of American geopolitics, as they did in Libya.
        In Algeria, Egypt and Syria, the people turned out to be smarter and rebuffed the imperialist cannibals. Therefore, they decided to find somewhere the same wild and undeveloped people, like the tribes from Libya stuck in the primitive communal system.
        And they were lucky: they dug Svidomo in Western Ukraine.
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      16. cat 1970
        cat 1970 19 February 2014 13: 29
        +13
        ... especially in Lviv. Due to dung grub in the 50s, Bandera critters were not responsible for firing at the soldiers of the 1941th mechanized corps in 8 (though they didn’t stand on ceremony, the assault groups felled everyone they caught with weapons in their hands), for the killings during war and after it, and this is tens of thousands of people. Khrushchev took pity on them, and even chopped off the Crimea. Now they need to be crushed like nits, no negotiations, for the murder - death to the creatures.
      17. Skiff-2
        Skiff-2 19 February 2014 14: 10
        +18
        Quote: rolik2
        Like a flock of sheep going under the pointer of the West ... Well, isn’t there a head?

        What the fuck is the West? Enough to think and speak in cliches. Bendery trash tasted the blood, and now it can only be stopped by spreading a thin layer along the pavement.

        Golden eagle and explosives in Kiev are waiting for heavy equipment, now there is nothing to break through the barricades, everything is already in full combat - the jokes are over. Banderlogs are trying to organize in the East, riots are expected in Dnepropetrovsk. It seems that she is the one who is civilian, and the state of emergency has not yet been introduced, the organizers have not been arrested, although they still run to the talks with the president. We need military - field courts and the utmost rigidity from the authorities, we need cleaning in the East and CLEANING in the West. And diplomatic assistance to Russia.
        1. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 25
          0
          I completely agree.
        2. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 19: 51
          +2
          There is help, and not only diplomatic. Thanks to her, power in Ukraine is still legitimate ...
      18. vo.dum
        vo.dum 19 February 2014 15: 34
        +6
        Yes ... you are right, but with such actions of Yanukovych he will smear them for decades ... he seems to intentionally do everything so that the conflict lasts as long as possible ... instead of decisive and quick measures to clean up the organizers across the country, with indicative rigidity ... he barely creeps along the European square, giving the main forces the opportunity to regroup and strike partisan elsewhere ... it feels like they and the opposition are doing one thing — the collapse of the country with blood ...
      19. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 44
        +1
        Useful links

        Nikolai Starikov
        About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
        About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
        A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

        As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
        In great detail about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: SV Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Everyone MUST read: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
        What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
      20. duke
        duke 19 February 2014 18: 47
        +7
        All these are emotions, although fair. And the essence is the end of the so-called Ukraine. The Zapadents as they were the outskirts of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Austria-Hungary, remained ... They have small-town thinking, a lot of ambition and claims, but little intelligence and abilities, a complete lack of Russian and Orthodox identity ... Western regions are no longer subject to Kiev, unity a country that was long ago only on paper collapsed. There is only one way out - so as not to fall under the completely irresponsible Banderaites and heavy Natsiks and not lose what is left, draw borders with the Zapadentsi and declare a Kiev-Russian or, if you like, Little Russian republic and turn to Russia, with a request to restore the unity of the Russian people artificially divided into two country. If you need to hold referendums in the east and in Russia. For example, Czechs dispersed with Slovaks and nothing, they live. Let's see how the Zapadents will live on Western grants ...
      21. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 21 February 2014 10: 36
        0
        Can banderlogs appear without the permission of the west ?! No, they cannot, otherwise they will crush quickly.
      22. BLACK-SHARK-64
        BLACK-SHARK-64 21 February 2014 11: 08
        0
        Bandera only wet ...
    2. domokl
      domokl 19 February 2014 08: 56
      +21
      What kind of ram can a sheep have? It’s lamb. Although with such a slobber-president, it should be so ... Blood today will no longer flow like a brook-river ...
      Stop talking, you need to shoot already. Otherwise the whole country will catch fire ...
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 February 2014 08: 57
      +39
      And at this time, when cops die and prosecutors are on fire, Yanukovych ....Yanukovych called on the opposition to compromise and find a common language for the future of the countryhttp://news.mail.ru/politics/17021201/..предлагает оппозиции сесть за стол переговоров,видать еще не наговорился fool
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 19 February 2014 09: 38
        +18
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And at this time, when the cops die and prosecutors are on fire

        Allowed such a situation.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        offers the opposition to sit at the negotiating table

        At the negotiating table, it’s too late, the train left. Worthless president. negative
        Good afternoon, Alexander. hi
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 19 February 2014 10: 55
          +5
          Quote: Apollon
          At the negotiating table, it's too late

          And in another way, he does not succeed in separating the flies and cutlets - the opposition that speaks of "freedom", and the radical Nazis, who had been preparing for this moment for a long time.
          Under the pressure that Yanukovych is experiencing, he has to "slow down" ...
          1. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 19 February 2014 12: 59
            +6
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Quote: Apollon
            At the negotiating table, it's too late

            And he doesn’t manage to share flies with cutlets in a different way - the opposition, which broadcasts about


            He doesn’t have to share anyone. It is enough to turn east and make a commitment.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 19 February 2014 13: 02
              +8
              Quote: Geisenberg
              It is enough to turn east and make a commitment.

              This is to personal qualities ...
              Both Lukashenka and VVP were able to "put" on the opinion "from beyond the hill" ...
              1. Basarev
                Basarev 19 February 2014 19: 19
                +5
                Here I am about the same thing — remember how the cops worked on Bolotnaya — a nice look!
        2. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 19 February 2014 12: 57
          +4
          Quote: Apollon

          At the negotiating table, it’s too late, the train left. Worthless president. negative
          Good afternoon, Alexander. hi


          But some people are on the bunk just right. Touch me - the next round of negotiations with the opposition would end with the landing of the opposition for an attempted coup.
          1. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 19: 56
            0
            Quote: Geisenberg
            Touch me - the next round of negotiations with the opposition would end with the landing of the opposition for an attempted coup.


            Do you propose your candidacy?
        3. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 20
          .
          Quote: Apollon
          At the negotiating table, it was too late, the train left.

          Late. Although so far this is the only thing that protects the country from war
        4. typhoon7
          typhoon7 19 February 2014 14: 32
          +5
          Yanyku needs to understand that he can not only knock the president’s chair out from under his ass, but also a stool from under his feet, after the verdict in the Hague Tribunal, if the maydan take power. Procrastination is now for him, it is criminal cowardice. At stake is the life of people and the state as a whole.
        5. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 26
          +3
          I completely agree, with such a president, and the enemy is not necessary.
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 19 February 2014 12: 55
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And at this time, when cops die and prosecutors are on fire, Yanukovych ....Yanukovych called on the opposition to compromise and find a common language for the future of the countryhttp://news.mail.ru/politics/17021201/..предлагает оппозиции сесть за стол переговоров,видать еще не наговорился fool


        It would be nice if he began to act as his opponents. That is, he called on everyone to compromise and allowed shooting to kill.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 21
          .
          Quote: Geisenberg
          It would be nice if he began to act as his opponents. That is, he called on everyone to compromise and allowed shooting to kill.

          Sory, what is he doing now?
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 19
        -5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And at this time, when cops die and prosecutors are on fire, Yanukovych .... Yanukovych urged the opposition to compromise and find a common language for the future of the countryhttp: //news.mail.ru/politics/17021201/..suggest the opposition negotiations, I have not seen enough

        And he has no choice - half of his country is blazing, and there is a great chance to finish in the spirit of some Ceausescu.
        1. Luzhichanin
          Luzhichanin 19 February 2014 19: 20
          +5
          and what are you suddenly the patterns of Western democrats here dispersed?
          I remember at VO there was an article saying that the West chose which label to hang on Yanukovych and eventually opted for Ceausescu.
          by chance you are not broadcasting from their western rotten camp?
    4. Denis
      Denis 19 February 2014 08: 57
      +12
      Quote: Scandinavian
      What you are doing ? Come to your senses

      Yanukovych, why DON'T DO ANYTHING? REMEMBER!
      1. domokl
        domokl 19 February 2014 09: 01
        +33
        Quote: Denis
        Yanukovych, why DON'T DO ANYTHING? REMEMBER!

        He’s a slug ... When the hut burns, you don’t have to negotiate, you need to extinguish it ... And not only with buckets, but with normal fire engines. They beat the guys out and they stand like cannon fodder ... Weapons and orders ...
        1. Soldier
          Soldier 19 February 2014 09: 32
          +26
          Brothers-commanders, all who are in uniform !!! Well, you don’t feel sorry for your people or something !!! Break the hell out of this fascist scum. Not among the Maydan’s, peaceful ones. Damn, at least take your own vacation and help .
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 11: 53
            +5
            Quote: Armeec
            Brothers-commanders, all who are in uniform !!! Well, you don’t feel sorry for your people or something !!! Break the hell out of this fascist scum. Not among the Maydan’s, peaceful ones.

            or for starters just give the soldiers real weapons ...

            something seems to me that after that the maidanut will tremble ...
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 25
              .
              Quote: DanaF1
              something seems to me that after that the maidanut will tremble ...

              Or they will also have real guns in their hands. And a number of people know how to fight there: if you forget, the Union of Afghan Veterans has considerable influence there, and they make up a fairly tangible force on the Maidan
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 14: 48
                +9
                Quote: Pimply
                Or they will also have real guns in their hands.

                they have already appeared in the ultras ...

                Quote: Pimply
                And a number of people there are quite able to fight there: if you forget, there is a considerable influence over the Union of Afghan Veterans

                but this is a lie ...
                Afghan veterans on the side of the authorities, at least in the East ...
                and if so, then so everywhere ...

                Well, maybe with a few exceptions greatly shell-shocked in Afghanistan ...
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 19 February 2014 17: 58
                  .
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  they have already appeared in the ultras ...

                  So far, what has been shining is pneumatics and trauma. What does not mean that these are harmless toys
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  Afghan veterans on the side of the authorities, at least in the East ...
                  and if so, then so everywhere ...

                  In the East - it is quite possible. And in Kiev they have a small share on the Maidan. In particular, at the beginning of all this action, it was they who did not allow the escalation of the conflict.
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 19: 17
                    +7
                    Quote: Pimply
                    So far, what has been shining is pneumatics and trauma. What does not mean that these are harmless toys

                    Are you an eccentric or are you holding us for eccentrics?

                    police shields and helmets made of pneumatics and trauma cannot be shot through even at point blank range ...
                    1. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 19 February 2014 19: 37
                      +6
                      The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine reports that in Kiev there are about 20 structures that have all the signs of extremist criminal gangs. One of these criminal groups has recently been eliminated, an arsenal of weapons was seized from attackers. Police also verify that members of this group delivered weapons to rally participants on Euromaidan. According to Stanislav Rogozin, head of the main organized crime department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, agency officials are currently checking information about about 1 people involved in 20 radical groups. Participants in these organized crime groups are suspected of committing grave and especially grave crimes, in particular, during the events on Grushevsky Street in the capital.
                    2. Pimply
                      Pimply 19 February 2014 19: 46
                      -2
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      Are you an eccentric or are you holding us for eccentrics?

                      police shields and helmets made of pneumatics and trauma cannot be shot through even at point blank range ...

                      I'm talking about what was shining. What did not shine is a separate question
                      1. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 20: 59
                        +2
                        Quote: Pimply
                        What did not shine is a separate question

                        Sedna in full screen showed a man from TSV, nifiga themselves "do not shine" ..
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 February 2014 22: 11
                        -5
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        Sedna in full screen showed a man from TSV, nifiga themselves "do not shine" ..

                        The VAM 4-4 guy with a sniper scope was actively spinning on the frames, TSV-1 has not yet been sort of noticed.
                        Find a picture or video? Not with a hint, just interesting. I do not deny the presence of such a thing.
                        And taking into account the number of gunshots in people’s arms, it’s still relatively humane
                      3. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 22: 24
                        +2
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Actively on footage they turned the guy VAM 4-4 with a sniper scope, TSV-1

                        it seemed to me that it was TSV, it seems a little to YOU ​​...
                      4. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 February 2014 22: 43
                        -4
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        it seemed to me that it was TSV, it seems a little to YOU ​​...

                        Find a reference - I will be very grateful. It’s usually that in these troubles, they just don’t get out on the light
                      5. Danafxnumx
                        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 23: 45
                        +1
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Find a reference - I will be very grateful.

                        I saw on TV ...
                      6. Pimply
                        Pimply 20 February 2014 00: 23
                        -1
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        I saw on TV ...

                        Well, quite possibly. I have not noticed yet
                      7. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 19 February 2014 23: 27
                        +1
                        Quote: Pimply
                        And taking into account the number of gunshots in people’s arms, it’s still relatively humane

                        Eugene, spit over your left shoulder ... recourse
                      8. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 February 2014 23: 53
                        -2
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Eugene, spit over your left shoulder ...

                        Yes, and just doing it. This is room warriors here all under a machine gun and offer flamethrowers under the fire. They don’t understand what it can lead to.
                  2. 31231
                    31231 19 February 2014 21: 37
                    +9
                    So far, what has been shining is pneumatics and trauma. What does not mean that these are harmless toys


                    Pimpled, you, as an unworthy journalist, find the amno you need, but the videos that have already flooded the Internet, but you don’t see. For some reason I’m not surprised.

                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 19 February 2014 22: 04
                      -5
                      Quote: 31231
                      Pimpled, you, as an unworthy journalist, find the amno you need, but the videos that have already flooded the Internet, but you don’t see. For some reason I’m not surprised.

                      Do not freak out, child. I understand that you are hysterical and this is your right, but let's see what we have in the video. For example, the first character. Pneumatics for 670 hryvnias, made in China. VAM rifle 4-4.

                      The second character with a Fort injury
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 February 2014 22: 18
                        -5
                        Well, of course, cons - just because it’s difficult to perceive information without inventing an enemy
                      2. alicante11
                        alicante11 20 February 2014 08: 10
                        +1
                        Well, of course, cons - just because it’s difficult to perceive information without inventing an enemy


                        It’s not necessary to invent an enemy, you already are. And from the enemy - even the truth is worse than a lie, because it disguises a lie.
                      3. 31231
                        31231 19 February 2014 23: 04
                        0
                        Thanks for the info.
                      4. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 February 2014 23: 13
                        0
                        Quote: 31231
                        Thanks for the info.
                        ]
                        M, pleasantly surprised if you are to me. You can communicate normally - if you are not trying to push your horn out of business. So you see, and come to the point that politics is not a zebra, and that the same Yanukovych for Russia was an order of magnitude more problematic partner than Tymoshenko (despite the fact that in theory it should have been the other way around)
            2. monolit55
              monolit55 19 February 2014 15: 16
              +5
              I agree. If you give the soldiers a weapon. Hide it from the Maydon will reduce
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 19 February 2014 14: 22
            -3
            Quote: Armeec
            Brothers-commanders, all who are in uniform !!! Well, you don’t feel sorry for your people or something !!! Break the hell out of this fascist scum. Not among the Maydan’s, peaceful ones. Damn, at least take your own vacation and help .


            The question is, if it were really a local nationalist rebellion, then everything would have ended very quickly. The problem for Yanukovych is that all this is supported quite widely and by a considerable proportion of Ukrainians.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 19 February 2014 14: 29
              +10
              Quote: Pimply
              The problem for Yanukovych is that all this is supported quite widely and by a considerable proportion of Ukrainians.


              The problem is that all this is supported by Western states.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 February 2014 18: 00
                -9
                Quote: Setrac

                The problem is that all this is supported by Western states.

                The problem for Yanukovych is that this is not a local speech, but a full-scale opposition to him.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 19 February 2014 21: 17
                  +1
                  Quote: Pimply
                  The problem for Yanukovych is that this is not a local speech, but a full-scale opposition to him.

                  Well, of course, on Yanukovych the light converged. Your excuses are pathetic.
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 19 February 2014 22: 13
                    0
                    Quote: Setrac

                    Well, of course, on Yanukovych the light converged. Your excuses are pathetic.

                    I did not pass - for starters. Secondly - sorry, I have something to make excuses for?
                    I study the situation from a professional point of view - and I have no special sympathy for either one or the other.
                    Yes, Yanek in Ukraine is not strongly loved. Is this news for you?

                    And the big question is whether Russia should love him. "Opposing" Tymoshenko as a negotiating partner was ten times more convenient for Russia than constantly substituting Yanukovych
                    1. Setrac
                      Setrac 19 February 2014 22: 33
                      +1
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Yes, Yanek in Ukraine is not strongly loved. Is this news for you?

                      This does not justify all the outrages that the United States and Germany staged in Ukraine.
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 19 February 2014 22: 50
                        -3
                        Quote: Setrac
                        This does not justify all the outrages that the United States and Germany staged in Ukraine.

                        Of course, all is only the USA and Germany.
                      2. Setrac
                        Setrac 19 February 2014 23: 03
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Of course, all is only the USA and Germany.

                        Well, not Martians sponsor militants in Ukraine.
            2. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 14: 50
              +7
              Quote: Pimply
              The problem for Yanukovych is that all this is supported quite widely and by a considerable proportion of Ukrainians.

              Yeah of course...
              the same share that goes to the hump near Donbas ...
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 February 2014 18: 07
                .
                Quote: DanaF1
                the same share that goes to the hump near Donbas ...

                I would recommend reading the economic calculations of recent years.
                What you are talking about was true some time ago. However, the situation has been slightly different for several years.

                The share of the Donetsk region in Ukraine’s GDP in 2010 was only 12%, and the total amount of subsidies received by this region amounted to 21%, and already in 2011 the region received even more investments - 27% of the national total.

                Или:
                In 2013, losses from the production of commercial products by state-owned coal enterprises amounted to 15,1 billion UAH, an increase of 3,2 billion UAH. compared to 2012. This was reported in the report of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine.

                The same situation is in the Lugansk region - with a share in Ukraine's GDP of 4%, the amount of subsidies received by this region was at the level of 8% (2010) and 11% (2011).
                1. Danafxnumx
                  Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 19: 58
                  +8
                  Quote: Pimply
                  The share of the Donetsk region in Ukraine’s GDP in 2010 was only 12%, and the total amount of subsidies received by this region amounted to 21%, and already in 2011 the region received even more investments - 27% of the national total.

                  Или:
                  In 2013, losses from the production of commercial products by state-owned coal enterprises amounted to 15,1 billion UAH, an increase of 3,2 billion UAH. compared to 2012. This was reported in the report of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine.

                  The same situation is in the Lugansk region - with a share in Ukraine's GDP of 4%, the amount of subsidies received by this region was at the level of 8% (2010) and 11% (2011).


                  that is, now zapadentsy also feed Votochny Ukraine?
                  and what do they do? What enterprises do they work at?

                  and in general, you want to say that the east has a smaller contribution to GDP than the west?
                  do not tell my slippers ...
                2. 31231
                  31231 19 February 2014 21: 58
                  +4
                  The same situation is in the Lugansk region - with a share in Ukraine's GDP of 4%, the amount of subsidies received by this region was at the level of 8% (2010) and 11% (2011).


                  Eugene, again not half-living sources?
                  Dear, find, that’s all you wrote on the website of the State Statistics Service of Ukraine. And then I don’t watch how much there, I don’t find all the Svidomo tales. Can you find it?
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 19 February 2014 22: 38
                    -7
                    Quote: 31231
                    Dear, find, that’s all you wrote on the website of the State Statistics Service of Ukraine. And then I don’t watch how much there, I don’t find all the Svidomo tales. Can you find it?

                    Yesterday you accused the Central Bank of Venezuela and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of this country of lying to you. 8) You are so touching me. I will find a direct link to you - and you will prove that hackers hacked the site of Ukrstat 8)))
                    Yesterday I’ve sworn for you, sorry 8)))
        2. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 19 February 2014 19: 59
          0
          Quote: domokl
          The boys are beaten out, and they stand like cannon fodder ... Weapons and orders ...


          So someone needs this ...
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 19 February 2014 10: 28
        +4
        Stripping off. But the people of Kiev hid home. On the Maidan, a mercenary from hot spots is operating.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 19 February 2014 10: 52
          +24
          Quote: siberalt
          On the Maidan, a mercenary from hot spots is operating.

          On Independence Square in Kiev, activists captured a law enforcement officer. This happened after law enforcement officers from Institutskaya again launched an attack on the protesters. Euromaidan participants dragged the captured security officer to the stage. “The hand of the berkut is torn off.” The people are ready to kill the captured berkut, but self-defense keeps him. To be honest, they all deserve heavy punishments, but they will not be punished because of dishonest authorities ... When the authorities do not punish their criminals, the people can take on the function of justice ... Is this the best way out? And tell me, what is the other? "- asks the people's deputy Briginets.
          Now he is being examined by a doctor and taken to the hospital. He, like others, was blown up by grenades thrown by the Berkut soldiers. I ran too ahead. Therefore, as we can see, the Berkut people are destroying their own, "he added.
          Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-138957.html
          XXXX
          Oh, how you want to excuse yourself from grenades on the part of the "activists" "They all crippled themselves" Briginets! Don't think you won't answer !!! YOU WILL ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING TOGETHER WITH YOUR LEADERS !!!!
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    5. Arhj
      Arhj 19 February 2014 09: 02
      +21
      A herd of rams is. Now this herd will be allowed in front of the convoy of banderlog to the police cordons and "Berkut", and then they will shout that the police are beating up civilians. We got used to hiding behind people, they are fascists, seventy years have passed, and the methods are still the same.
      1. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 16: 30
        +1
        Yes, the methods are the same. Who shouts the loudest: "Stop the thief!" That's right, the thief himself.
    6. arane
      arane 19 February 2014 09: 04
      +15
      The crowd has no head and mind! Yanuk was about to sit down at the negotiating table with the leaders of the bandits! Who needs such a president. You don’t need to talk to them, they must testify!
      Or cool down already ...
      1. tomket
        tomket 19 February 2014 09: 38
        +4
        Quote: arane
        Yanuk was about to sit down at the negotiating table with the leaders of the bandits! Who needs such a president.

        So he seems to be from bandits himself, so he decided to arrange a gathering.
    7. Atrix
      Atrix 19 February 2014 10: 12
      -5
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Like a flock of sheep going under the pointer of the West ... Well, isn’t there a head? Or so impoverished? What you are doing ? Come to your senses

      And here is the west ??? People are already so for .. lawlessness in Ukraine that that's how they show it. Here I have a familiar father with a large family of seven, who is also trying to fight the system by asserting his rights, and when he was called by the deputy measure and begins to tell him how it is possible to live according to the law and if he lives according to the law then he has nothing to talk about with him. I do not support such methods that are used on the Maidan now, but there is no sense in enduring this lawlessness from the authorities either.
      PS I talked with a friend who is now on the Maidan, most who are there do not care about Yatsinyuk, Tyagnibok and Tymoshenko.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 19 February 2014 10: 57
        +24
        Quote: Atrix
        I do not support such methods that are used on the Maidan now, but there is no sense in enduring this lawlessness from the authorities either.

        So we must vote for the communists! And then all "for independence", yes "damned komunyaki" ... Oh, how many of those who said that "under socialism it is bad, but under democracy we will live!" Received! Now think about whom to vote for!
        1. Atrix
          Atrix 19 February 2014 11: 00
          -3
          Quote: Egoza
          Quote: Atrix
          I do not support such methods that are used on the Maidan now, but there is no sense in enduring this lawlessness from the authorities either.

          So we must vote for the communists! And then all "for independence", yes "damned komunyaki" ... Oh, how many of those who said that "under socialism it is bad, but under democracy we will live!" Received! Now think about whom to vote for!

          I do not know what kind of communists you have in Russia, but in our country communists are exactly the same hedgehog as is the power from the opposition.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 19 February 2014 11: 19
            +24
            Quote: Atrix
            I do not know what kind of communists you have in Russia, but in our country communists are exactly the same hedgehog as is the power from the opposition.

            Respected! I'm from Ukraine! This is my SOVIET flag! And about the communists - to put it mildly, "dissemble". They are the only ones who have never changed their program, constantly opposed the Nazis, defended the honor of those who fell in the Second World War, and sounded all the bells for a long time - they warned about what could happen. We tried to organize a referendum on joining the Customs Union !!! There are just few of them - they were not chosen! And there are very worthy people there who are not afraid to fight the fascists and fight live. We always vote for them with the whole family. And who did you vote for?
            1. Atrix
              Atrix 19 February 2014 11: 36
              -9
              Quote: Egoza
              They are the only ones who have never changed their program, constantly opposed the Natsiks, defended the honor of those who fell in the Second World War, and long ago they sounded all the bells - they warned about what could happen.

              This is all like window dressing for the electorate. Everything as well as regionals and an opposition they sell mandates, also squeeze out enterprises with mandates of deputies. All the time I voted for the regionals except the last election. Under Yushenko, he thought that a yanyk would come and begin to raise the country, but a yanyk would come and in my city Kryvyi Rih a complete lawlessness began which even under Yushchenko was not. All large enterprises began to be squeezed out by regionals, when they squeezed out, they began to divide enterprises into small ones for tax evasion (made tax breaks for new enterprises), now people pay 200-350 $ and now it is less with the current rate. So whom should I protect? Regionals? Or maybe a selling option?
              PS I personally realized one thing that in Ukraine nothing will change and it is necessary to bring out of this a god of a forgotten country, as it does not sound regrettable recourse
              1. Egoza
                Egoza 19 February 2014 11: 54
                +11
                Quote: Atrix
                I personally understood one thing that in Ukraine nothing will change and it is necessary to bring out of this a god of a forgotten country, as it does not sound regrettable

                Get out! And let the west help you!
              2. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 19 February 2014 11: 56
                +3
                Quote: Atrix
                I personally understood one thing that in Ukraine nothing will change and it is necessary to bring out of this a god of a forgotten country, as it does not sound regrettable

                An Internet patriot ... Only on the air to bake ...
              3. skifd
                skifd 19 February 2014 22: 39
                +2
                This is a quote from my forum post:

                Quote: paxpet
                I am a patriot of Russia.
                Quote: paxpet
                Why do I need a homeland in which I have no future? Yes, let everything burn with fire and blue flame!
                Quote: paxpet
                And it doesn’t matter to me what will happen next, because I don’t want to be a little person. I want to be the master. If the authorities do not want this, then let everything burn with fire !!!

                Duc "MOYDANY" and begin like that. X (r) uli, there are many "offenses", scho won’t pans ..

                Cool "patriotism", mother ..

                And it is here!


                Quote: Atrix
                PS I personally realized one thing that in Ukraine nothing will change and it is necessary to bring out of this a god of a forgotten country, as it does not sound regrettable


                How close we are to each other! How much TOTAL between our "peEtriots" s.ts.u.k.
            2. Soyuz-TM
              Soyuz-TM 19 February 2014 12: 27
              +1
              As my great-grandfather said to my mother - "The last communist died in the trench in 41".
              And about the real "communists" I will tell the story. In the last city local elections to the City Council, the "communists" won part of the vote and sold seats in the City Council to local businessmen (merchants). These are the communists they are.
              1. lestad
                lestad 19 February 2014 17: 00
                +3
                Ukrainians can understand. The power is corrupt, the opposition is corrupt. Everywhere you throw a wedge. And there is no light at the end of the tunnel request
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          2. lestad
            lestad 19 February 2014 16: 55
            +4
            why is there a german candidate-klitschko, amersky candidate-drawer? but there is no RUSSIAN ???
            1. arane
              arane 19 February 2014 21: 50
              +2
              A Russian quietly come to power .... laughing
      2. zzz
        zzz 19 February 2014 11: 05
        +10
        Quote: Atrix
        PS I talked with a friend who is now on the Maidan, most who are there do not care about Yatsinyuk, Tyagnibok and Tymoshenko.


        And we all do not care about him here! Only now, do they understand that standing on the Maidan, they are paving the way for the same? And what, because of their reasons, cannot "Berkut" clean up the Maidan? Whose conscience is the death of the guys from "Berkut"? And on their conscience too. There would be no extras, there would be no Maidan!
        1. Atrix
          Atrix 19 February 2014 11: 14
          -6
          Quote: zzz
          And we all do not care about him here! Only now, do they understand that standing on the Maidan, they are paving the way for the same? And what, because of their reasons, cannot "Berkut" clean up the Maidan? Whose conscience is the death of the guys from "Berkut"? And on their conscience too. There would be no extras, there would be no Maidan!

          I will answer you like that. Blood on hand in Yanyka and opposition. When people don’t have legal means to assert their rights, such radicals come and drown the country in blood. When a person cannot do anything with the authorities for one simple reason that the courts are bought, the police are bought and sent in three letters, what do you think, where will he go in this situation? Of course, most will go to barricades. When my father was fired, and the enterprise was stolen by the regionals who came to power. When our company was managed by a holding company from Russia, everything went fine and salaries grew normal and confidence was tomorrow, but the regions came and pressed the company for quiet water, divided it into small parts, and people say it and now getting a patch of 200-350 $
          By the way, and not whose conscience is the death of ordinary citizens at the hands of the police?
          1. Aleksandr65
            Aleksandr65 19 February 2014 12: 46
            +13
            Of course, most will go to barricades

            Well, you came to the barricades. Then what ?! WHAT can be changed on the barricades even by killing thousands? Laws, composition of judges, mayors? Wonder, my dear. All this can be changed only by long, boring and long-dragged bills in the Rada on the basis of bad, but Laws. Where to choose normal. But there isn’t any normal ones, because what we have is the development of society. And 90% of maydanutyh, once in the same courts, mayors, etc. will also spread rot and steal (see 2004). So, just the Law! Otherwise, whose justice is better known? Yours Or maybe mine? How are we going to find out, on the barricades? Nonsense..
          2. Papakiko
            Papakiko 19 February 2014 13: 59
            +9
            Quote: Atrix
            and here came the regions pressed the company for quiet water divided it into small parts

            Here is the Gebelsovsk-Soros feed.
            And before the arrival of the Regionals in 2010 at the helm were exclusively "orange" 3,14 rosnya Yushchenko (considered a pro-European candidate, supported by the European Union and the United States)Kravchuk(former secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine and the head of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine)
            Their sown seedlings have grown in all structures thanks there and address.
            And then you have Bendorov’s shortcomings always Russian to blame.
            The vodka is not so strong, the fat is not of that thickness. phew.
            1. zzz
              zzz 19 February 2014 14: 55
              +1
              Quote: Papakiko
              And then you have Bendorov’s shortcomings always Russian to blame.
              The vodka is not so strong, the fat is of the wrong thickness. phew.




              lol
          3. arane
            arane 19 February 2014 21: 59
            +1
            But Atrix is ​​right. It so happened that the people of Ukraine are against fascism, Bandera, lawlessness and blood! Against the fruits of Western "democracy" imposed on them. Against the war .... But maybe I'm wrong, no one is burning with ardent love for the current government. And if, in Ukraine, as in the state, everything would be fine, hell would the Banderlog succeed!
            In any case, Yanuka needs to leave ...... and honestly shoot himself
            An attempted armed rebellion must be stopped harshly and not instigated with the instigators, but in accordance with the law on terrorism, you must also hear your people ..... and draw conclusions!
      3. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 19 February 2014 11: 56
        +6
        Quote: Atrix
        People are already so for .. lawlessness in Ukraine that that's how they show it. Here I have a familiar father with a large family of seven, who is also trying to fight the system by asserting his rights, and when he was called by the deputy measure and begins to tell him how it is possible to live according to the law and if he lives according to the law then he has nothing to talk about with him. I do not support such methods that are used on the Maidan now, but there is no sense in enduring this lawlessness from the authorities either.

        so what will you do?

        change peaceful lawlessness to armed lawlessness?
      4. Manul
        Manul 19 February 2014 13: 24
        +6
        Quote: Atrix
        And here is the west ??? People are already so for .. lawlessness in Ukraine that that's how they show it

        That is, to lawlessness, it is necessary to respond with even greater lawlessness? Then these are even bigger criminals than those against whom they oppose.
      5. Master_Lviv
        Master_Lviv 19 February 2014 18: 06
        +3
        Lawlessness fight against lawlessness? Original.
    8. avt
      avt 19 February 2014 10: 17
      +10
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Like a flock of sheep going under the pointer of the West ...

      Specifically, a decree from the USA --- “The Vice President reiterated the urgent need for immediate dialogue with opposition leaders in order to respond to the legitimate concerns of the protesters and come up with serious proposals for political reform,” the Vice President’s office said in a statement. ---- Without a doubt, amer included the Yugoslavian scenario of development. Remember - this is exactly how, with "small farms", it began in Slovenia, but for a longer time it rolled like a snowball on autopilot. But judging by the quotes from Merkel and other Europeans, they are somehow afraid, understand the difference and the scale of the difference from the past in Yugoslavia, although it wants to ring Ukraine from "associating", but fearfully and mother, Russia, does not order. We would like to "peacefully disagree" with Russia on the Ukrainian issue. And the staff members are specifically against it.
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Well, isn't there a head? Or so impoverished? What you are doing ? Come to your senses

      A voice crying in the wilderness. The cards to the players of the Great Game are dealt, the move is made, and the Ukrainians, with all their “elite” corrupt, are not even a fool in this preference. They are played with them, that is all their achievement in twenty-odd years of “independence”.
    9. svp67
      svp67 19 February 2014 10: 22
      +15
      Quote: Scandinavian
      What you are doing ? Come to your senses

      Lord instruct your children, they do not know what they are doing ...
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 19 February 2014 11: 00
        +6
        Maidan - in smoke, on the barricades only the cross remained intact.
        There are stones on the road. Parts of the barricades are broken and burned. Smoke from the House of Trade Unions
        XXXX
        Rescuers had to leave the burning building of the House of Trade Unions in the center of Kiev, because there was a collapse of the floors between floors, the press service of the State Emergency Management Service in Kiev on Wednesday night reported.

        "During the extinguishing of the fire, the personnel were taken out into the street, as the structures collapsed between the 4th and 5th floors," the press service noted.

        At the same time, in the Kiev city state administration, citing the capital, the State Emergencies Ministry reported that 41 people who were on the 3-9 floors of the building were rescued from the House of Trade Unions in the center of Kiev, and the search and rescue of people continues to this day.

        The report notes that 20 units of basic and special fire fighting equipment and more than 100 personnel are working at the scene. “Rescuers work in very difficult conditions to save people,” the press service emphasized.

        The Main Directorate of the State Emergency Service in Kiev appeals to all who are in the center of the capital, asking them not to interfere with the rescuers in saving people.
        http://www.versii.com/news/297619/
    10. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 19 February 2014 10: 38
      +13
      Yes, there is no herd, they are organized, equipped and have clear tactics, no, this is not a herd, the herd was at the beginning, yesterday they already started seizing police stations 124 guns and 20 machine guns at least taken away, it looks like a well-rehearsed performance which is coming to an end , and in the finale no matter how pichal the collapse of the country and the civil war. I crap all Yanyk needed to crush all this rot in the bud.
      1. Tiamat2702
        Tiamat2702 19 February 2014 13: 33
        +2
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        Yes, there is no herd, they are organized, equipped and have clear tactics, no, this is not a herd, the herd was at the beginning, yesterday they already started seizing police stations 124 guns and 20 machine guns at least taken away, it looks like a well-rehearsed performance which is coming to an end , and in the finale no matter how pichal the collapse of the country and the civil war. I crap all Yanyk needed to crush all this rot in the bud.

        You are right, this is not a herd, it is zombies, zombie squads with their own "puppeteers".
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    11. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 19 February 2014 11: 18
      +11
      THIS IS AND THE TRUTH OF THESE VALUES IS BEGINNING THAT ARE SO ZEROUSLY PLANTED ON US, IT IS NOT SEVERABLE, THE FIRST SHOULD KILL THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY BUT IT WAS UNABLE TO KILL COMPLETELY THERE IS SOMETHING ALWAYS REMEMBERING AND ALWAYS KNOWING HIS EARLIER THE EPOCH OF GORBACHEV SOMETHING IT HAS NOT AT ALL HEARSELY HURRYED THE WHOLE HISTORY OF THIS RICH HISTORY OF THE COUNTRIES (UKRAINE) OUR LIKE IT'S ALSO DIDN'T LEFT, IS NOT THIS, BUT YOU LIKE THAT YOU GET THAT YOU SHOULD TELL US SHOW ON TV THE COURT HISTORY THEN FAILED but the lessons have taken into account began to act much thinner than the main thing that understand this SCHOOL urgent reforms started its struggle for the minds YOUTH NOW strong opinions OUR HISTORY it sucks there is nothing good and instructive, REMEMBER Katyn BUSINESS But POLES SUFFICIED WITH THE COURT ON HUMAN RIGHTS OUR DOCUMENTS AND THEY WERE HUNDRED PERCENTAGE SURE THAT RUSSIA WILL HAVE TO PAY AND NOT A WEAK AMOUNT WHAT THE COURT HAS CONSIDERED THE CASE REFUSED THE POLES THERE WITH THE DOCUMENTS ALSO NOT EVERYTHING SMOOTHLY IS PAPER SIGNED AND CERTIFIED WITH SEALS ABOUT WHICH NO ONE EARLIER AND DIDN'T THINK THAT THERE WAS THERE THERE IS NO KPSS AND THERE IS NO ONE ABOUT THIS, ONCE AGAINST PUSHKIN IN THOSE YEARS ABOUT WHICH ALMOST ANYTHING WRITTEN WRITTEN: "DO NOT SHOOT INTO THE PAST FROM A GUN, THE FUTURE WILL RESPOND FROM A GUN" MANY HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS HAVE NOT RECEIVED TO OUR DAYS, IN UKRAINE THEY RECEIVE THE FUEL OF THESE ACTIONS, IN EVERY COUNTRY THERE ARE HEROES AND ANTI-HEROES BUT HISTORY HAS BEEN DONE JUST IT IS NECESSARY TO TAKE IT
      1. Tiamat2702
        Tiamat2702 19 February 2014 13: 42
        +2
        Quote: igor.borov775
        Hurriedly redid the whole story of this rich country of their country (Ukraine), our also did not lag behind, is it not so,

        Not this way. It started with sharing stories. There is no such "country rich in its history" - we all have one story!
        1. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 19 February 2014 15: 11
          0
          the answer is wrong, redo, read both our and the same events are described in a completely different way. Do you think that the story is one then you are from there from the USSR and here are completely different projects
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    12. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 19 February 2014 12: 52
      0
      The main thing is that the Internet would not be turned off.
    13. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 19 February 2014 13: 09
      +1
      YES UKRAINIANS quickly passed the road that can clearly be seen UNFORTUNATELY AND RUSSIA THERE is just a quick it's all gone And WE HAVE THIS WAY encounters yet AT living people who remember HISTORY, more than twenty years of thunder and spit what we have done before VERDICT natural, by attaining THAT OUR HISTORY IS ONLY A CHRONICLES OF CRIMES, AND STILL PUSHKIN WRITTEN: "DO NOT SHOOT INTO THE PAST WITH A GUN THE FUTURE WILL RESPOND FROM A CANNON" AND HE HAD KNEW ABOUT WHAT WE HAD WRITTEN ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN TO HOW was just trample their history and now Bravo thugs at all guns in Kiev, you just listen to what they say full feeling they do not know their country's history, they have grown like mushrooms IN NEW postulates that that promotes POWER, that the same syndrome SLOWLY win YOUNG PEOPLE AND WE STILL HAVE A DIFFICULT SUCCESS, OUR AUTHORITIES HAVE ALREADY TRYED THROUGH TV CHANNELS TO CHECK OUR POPULATION FOR THE HISTORY TOTAL DISSOLVING MANY STILLRemember, this is about the grandiose CAMPAIGN THAT TOOK PLACE IN MAILBOX CALLED THE COURT history, but a conclusion was made true as the school does not spit BUT There they saw the top right story that began scuffling around schools and urgent reforms and togas HAVE POWER satisfied YOUTH vaguely understand the history of their COUNTRY WHO IS GUILTY SCHOOL NOW URGENT NEED TEXTBOOKS satisfied the powers that be do not care under the slogan infallible URGENT rewrite history MOL lot of extra and now no longer relevant pier all in the strict framework of the law, we can only wait THOSE WHO WILL KNOW THAT oUR STORY SUCKS AND ARMY YOUNG MANS TO APPEAR WITH US, YOUNG MANS FROM MAIDAN DIDN'T SIMPLY HAVE IT GENERATED BY THE POWER, SOMEONE PAYED FOR ALL OF THIS, AND PROBABLY I AM SPEAKING THE LOCAL PATRONS OF THOSE MAIDANE, THERE WASN'T THERE ARE IN THERE WHAT IS THE MOST SCARY, THE SAME PROCESS IS ONLY WHILE RAPING SLOWLY WITH US, OUR REVOLUTIONERS KINDLY SPIRED THE DU HOM IN DECEMBER-JANUARY NOW DO EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM FORGETTING THEY WATCH ANALYZE AND CONSIDER ALL THE MISTAKES WHAT THE UKRAINIAN UNIVERSE DID IF YOU HAVE DID THINK YOU WOULD HAVE DID THEY NEED
      1. Vlad.K.S.
        Vlad.K.S. 23 February 2014 23: 57
        0
        igor! Thank. IMHO, one of the best sayings. GL
    14. major1976
      major1976 19 February 2014 14: 17
      +14
      Yeltsin, burn in hell of Judah! Gorbachev for an aspen stake !!! Yanek played a tolerant politician, got under investigation with the West, and they threw him through x .. they threw !!! The soft-bodied single-celled organism !!! A little more and the fate of Salvador Allende awaits him !! ! Really a cunning prisoner doesn’t understand that NEVER can agree with the Browns !!! History is poorly taught! If you taught it at all !!! This Klitschko-Tyagnibok-Yatsenyuk must be smashed across the Maidan in the shortest possible time without looking back to the west! !!! SHOOT !!! !!! And not into the air with rubber, but to defeat lead !!! There is no limit to indignation !!! What they turned a beautiful city and a brotherly country into! Ukrainian riot is senseless and merciless !!! Brothers do not believe Western creatures, soak brown !!! Russians are with you !!!
    15. RUSS
      RUSS 19 February 2014 14: 44
      +5

      Breaking news !!!!!!!




      KIEV, February 19. / ITAR-TASS /. Acting Minister of Defense of Ukraine Pavel Lebedev gave the order to send to Kiev the 25th separate airborne brigade from Dnepropetrovsk. He said this to the correspondent of ITAR-TASS.

      “Yes, I gave such an order. To strengthen the protection of bases where military weapons are stored, ”Lebedev said. However, he refused to answer the question whether the army will be used to disperse the protesters.

      M.O. Colonel Alexander Motuzyanik, chief of the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, confirmed that units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are taking measures to strengthen the protection of weapons depots. He referred to the notice posted on the Ministry’s website about the measures taken in this regard.
      1. zzz
        zzz 19 February 2014 15: 29
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        KIEV, February 19. / ITAR-TASS /. Acting Minister of Defense of Ukraine Pavel Lebedev gave the order to send to Kiev the 25th separate airborne brigade from Dnepropetrovsk. He said this to the correspondent of ITAR-TASS.

        Maybe this is the beginning of the end?
    16. sens99.ru
      sens99.ru 19 February 2014 15: 18
      +2
      detained three minors who are suspected of committing two murders and four robberies, including against local journalist Alexander Yasenchuk. The fourth member of the group did not stay because of his young age (born in 2001).

      Even I am crazy! What is it like?! The guy is 13 years old ...
    17. Deniska999
      Deniska999 19 February 2014 15: 30
      +3
      It's time tanks crush this euromaidan.
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    19. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 44
      -3
      I completely agree. The crowd is easier to manage.
    20. asin
      asin 19 February 2014 15: 51
      -5
      Here is a clipping from komenty, only Russians who do not understand anything, but those who live in Ukraine.
      http://www.screencapture.ru/file/74c50854
    21. 222222
      222222 19 February 2014 16: 37
      +3
      "What you are doing ?"
      ...... barbarians came to Kiev .. once, like this, ROME burned down .. and again under the leadership of Germanic tribes ..
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    23. Stalker
      Stalker 19 February 2014 18: 37
      +1
      Like a flock of sheep going under the pointer of the West ... Well, isn’t there a head? Or so impoverished? What you are doing ? Come to your senses

      Why mobile operators do not block communication ?? Without it, they will be like blind ...
    24. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 20 February 2014 13: 09
      0
      It's time to save Ukraine.
    25. Vlaleks48
      Vlaleks48 20 February 2014 14: 16
      +1
      The order is brought in where "BATKA" serves the people, and not where the carue "PAKHAN" is!

      DEATH DELAY IS LIKE !!!
  2. omsbon
    omsbon 19 February 2014 08: 49
    +17
    You can’t do without a tough option to restore order!
    Hold on to Ukraine, we will help !!!
    1. domokl
      domokl 19 February 2014 08: 58
      +16
      Even a tough option will give rise to new Bandera. For anyone. Now you need to clean Kiev completely. Transplant as much as you pay. But then you still have to decide what to do with the country. The West will never agree to be east, east west ... and therefore the federation in best case ..
      1. muhomor
        muhomor 19 February 2014 09: 18
        +9
        ALL AGREE! In 1944-45, there were more banderlogs with weapons. And nothing! They did it. The surge in the latest wave of violence came from a sense of impunity. Amnesty, negotiations and other polites. Yanukovych’s actions resemble Gorbachev’s actions. He kept trying to reach consensus. And pr ... l country. The rebels must be treated like in Europe.
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 19 February 2014 11: 13
          +9
          Then there was the bloody tyrant Stalin, the no less bloody NKVD / MGB, the power of the Soviet Army and the desire to restore order: the same Chechens were evicted all in two days, the remaining bandits were shot like dogs. Russia will not send troops to restore order, nor will it go to scared Poland. Only the rebels should be handled not as in Europe, but as it should be during martial law - I got caught with weapons - against the wall, drive the others to the stadium, and then figure out how to get to the barricades and what to do there. During his dictatorial rule, Tyran Pinochet put about 5000 people to the wall (fewer than people died in all kinds of color and test revolutions), but he put things in order in Chile and made the country one of the leaders in the economy in Latin America.
          1. Tiamat2702
            Tiamat2702 19 February 2014 13: 47
            0
            Quote: inkass_98
            Russia will not send troops to restore order ...

            Not a fact.
            1. Orik
              Orik 20 February 2014 01: 28
              0
              Quote: Tiamat2702
              Quote: inkass_98
              Russia will not send troops to restore order ...

              Not a fact.

              In oooooooochen extreme case and rightly so. Although if the garlic, then for his native Ukraine he would have gone.
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          3. major1976
            major1976 19 February 2014 14: 20
            +6
            I will be pleased to take part in a military campaign in the Baltic States and Poland to help brainwash from European shit !!! Let Nemchura also not relax !!! Iskander throats them all!
            1. monolit55
              monolit55 19 February 2014 15: 28
              +1
              and about the escander I liked
        2. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac 19 February 2014 12: 04
          +4
          Quote: muhomor
          ALL AGREE! In 1944-45, there were more banderlogs with weapons. And nothing! They did it.

          Stalin was also compared with Yanukovych - like two completely different fingers. even under Stalin, had to fight until the mid-50s
        3. domokl
          domokl 19 February 2014 13: 07
          +1
          Quote: muhomor
          ALL AGREE! In 1944-45, there were more banderlogs with weapons.

          Then there was the most powerful USSR, in which any fascist shortcomings, regardless of nationality, were enemies of the people. And now we have Ukraine, a half-dead state that is practically not governed, is torn apart both politically and spiritually. There is no need to speak about the economy ...
          I advise you to recall yesterday's events, the Maidan stands and reflects the attacks, but where is the anti-Maidan? It was burned and dispersed by maydaunas, with the Ministry of Internal Affairs completely not resisting ...
        4. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 19 February 2014 15: 20
          +1
          You just forget that the time was different and the people knew they won’t give up now everything is possible, Yes, and the Army didn’t just take it and went no now is even more difficult than a month ago then it was possible to do something and now those in power are rushing to find a way their capital is where, Right,
      2. rolik2
        rolik2 19 February 2014 09: 33
        +8
        Quote: domokl
        Anyway. Now you need to completely clean Kiev

        What do you think they do there? Golden eagle presses banderlog in all directions.
        1. Alekseev
          Alekseev 19 February 2014 10: 01
          +6
          Quote: rolik2
          What do you think they do there? Golden eagle presses banderlog in all directions.

          If this is true, I'm glad!
      3. arane
        arane 19 February 2014 11: 01
        +11
        Maybe Commander Berkut's decision. Deal with banderlogs, and in parallel with the government. Let him become president! Someone must save the country .....
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 19 February 2014 11: 16
          +8
          Quote: arane
          Maybe Commander Berkut's decision. Deal with banderlogs, and in parallel with the government. Let him become president! Someone must save the country .....

          There is logic in your words! Usually army men take power into their own hands!
          The last vivid example of this is EGYPT.
          1. Niki
            Niki 19 February 2014 13: 09
            +2
            And for this example, one can notice the systematic and non-stop destruction of the Ukrainian army, with the exception of certain parts of the internal troops, which are de facto transferred to contracts.
            1. major1976
              major1976 19 February 2014 14: 26
              +3
              A colleague agrees! And it was done SPECIALLY! Destroy the army-stronghold of the state! In order to seize power afterwards! Browns prepared in advance! Fascism will not pass !!!
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      4. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 19 February 2014 11: 59
        +4
        Quote: domokl
        Even a tough option will give rise to new Bandera. For anyone. Now you need to clean Kiev completely. Transplant as much as they get drunk.

        Now Yanukovych has lost control over part of the territory of Western Ukraine - several regions claim an independent policy, including foreign policy - they are already urging Western countries to intervene right up to the sending of expeditionary forces. therefore, after putting things in order in Kiev (I hope that they will restore them all the same), it will be necessary to put things in order in the territories, and that smells like a lot of blood (I hope to make a mistake)
        1. muhomor
          muhomor 19 February 2014 16: 30
          +5
          There will be no expeditionary force! As soon as at least one foreign serviceman lifts a boot over the land of Ukraine (no matter under what pretext) the reaction of Moscow and Minsk will be instantaneous and extremely harsh. In the Voronezh region, closer to the border, reconnaissance is being carried out. "teachings" of the five tactical groups of the Arymeians. Information from personal sources (relatives)
          1. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 19 February 2014 17: 46
            +1
            Quote: muhomor
            There will be no expeditionary forces!

            and I didn’t say that foreign troops will be deployed right now - only that part of the Ukrainian regions is starting to conduct its own foreign policy, and this is fraught with the tearing of Ukraine to pieces and Yanukovych urgently needs to sanitize this abscess
        2. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 06: 32
          0
          The situation is reminiscent of the Civil War with the introduction of interventionists from the USA, England, France, etc.
    2. Arberes
      Arberes 19 February 2014 09: 06
      +17
      Quote: omsbon
      You can’t do without a tough option to restore order!

      I'm afraid you're right! The situation has changed dramatically! Bandits are already using a firearm.
      Better to wash your blood than bathe and choke on it!
      To crush reptiles by all available means otherwise than in Syria it will be!
    3. RBLip
      RBLip 19 February 2014 09: 27
      +6
      Quote: omsbon
      Hold on to Ukraine, we will help !!!

      that's what they are waiting for. this will be the next part of the "Marlezon ballet".
      1. Hitrovan07
        Hitrovan07 19 February 2014 09: 55
        +4
        Blood spilled - then wait ...
        1. RBLip
          RBLip 19 February 2014 10: 20
          +4
          Quote: Hitrovan07
          Blood spilled - then wait ...

          mattresses with a geyropa are waiting for Russia to fit into these disassemblies. for that, everything was started.
          1. rolik2
            rolik2 19 February 2014 10: 47
            +9
            Attempt at ramming barricades of armored personnel carriers

            in the future, the armored personnel carrier departed on its own and was put out, drove a little soggy but everything is fine, we press banderlog on all fronts
          2. Tiamat2702
            Tiamat2702 19 February 2014 13: 58
            +5
            Quote: RBLip
            Quote: Hitrovan07
            Blood spilled - then wait ...

            mattresses with a geyropa are waiting for Russia to fit into these disassemblies. for that, everything was started.

            And why do they need it? Neither the EU nor the states need a direct armed conflict between their troops and the RF Armed Forces (they are used to fighting us in other ways). Namely, this can happen with an extreme aggravation of the situation in Ukraine and the deployment of troops on their part. And the fact that the Russian Federation can send its troops to Ukraine, Western politicians have no doubt since 08.08.08.
            1. RBLip
              RBLip 19 February 2014 15: 26
              +1
              Quote: Tiamat2702
              And why do they need it?

              Now, if I were Obama, I would answer you. and dividends, if we get in there, oh how much to fuck. Can you recall how they covered the 08.08.08? so who will forbid them to do the same now? Yes, and the troops can not enter the mattress, but, for example, Polish ...
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          4. major1976
            major1976 19 February 2014 14: 31
            +4
            They wash themselves with their blue blood !!!
  3. pensioner
    pensioner 19 February 2014 08: 50
    +48
    “I am shocked by the terrible news from Kiev and strongly condemn the brutal violence,” the Lithuanian head wrote on Twitter.
    She is shocked, you see! And where were your brains when you shook your tits on the Maidan in front of a crowd of banderlogs ???
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 19 February 2014 08: 59
      +20
      Quote: retired
      She is shocked, you see! And where were your brains when you shook your tits on the Maidan in front of a crowd of banderlogs ???

      All these Eurococks knew perfectly well whom they supported and how it would all end! And now, when Ukraine is plunging into bloody chaos, they are striving with all their might to keep a good face in a bad game, to dissociate themselves from direct involvement in what is happening and to maintain their Euro-democratic e .... lo!
      All Euro-leaders unanimously howled about the condemnation of what is happening and urge the parties to negotiate! The State Department’s reaction withуunited states?
      So far there is silent?
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 19 February 2014 09: 09
        +19
        Quote: Arberes
        All Euro-leaders unanimously howled about the condemnation of what is happening and urge the parties to negotiate!

        EU High Representative for Foreign and Security Policy Catherine Ashton calls on the parties to the political conflict to urgently return to the search for a political solution in the Verkhovna Rada.

        "I am deeply concerned about the serious escalation in Kiev and the reports of victims. I condemn the use of violence, including against state or party buildings. I call on the Ukrainian leadership to eliminate the causes of the crisis," Ashton said in a statement released on Tuesday in Brussels. ...

        The High Representative noted that "political decisions must be made in parliament, and Ukraine must urgently return to the parliamentary process."

        "Political leaders must now take shared responsibility in order to restore trust and create conditions for an effective resolution of the political crisis in the country," she said.

        According to C. Ashton, such a decision should include the formation of a new comprehensive government, constitutional reform and the preparation of transparent and democratic presidential elections.

        "The EU is ready to help Ukraine in this process," she stressed.
        xxxxx
        Did the flounder wake up half-pressed? You go to ... and to ... and to ... with your "help! am am am
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 19 February 2014 09: 23
          +13
          Quote: Egoza
          "The EU is ready to help Ukraine in this process"

          One more such help and ... I will not continue further! The time has come for decisive action! I want to wish the Ukrainian people that there would be a real, strong leader in their ranks, not afraid to take full responsibility for further events! Only such a person can turn the tide in Ukraine now!

          Hello dear ELENA! hi
          Usually I say "Good afternoon" - but today he is clearly not!
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 19 February 2014 09: 49
          +8
          Quote: Egoza
          "The EU is ready to help Ukraine in this process," she stressed.
          Syria, get out: they have been helping for many years now ... And Libya too ... has not been spared, compassionate. To send such virtues to ... and to ..., and to send, and to send ... There is no excuse and no forgiveness for the "leaders" of your "oppositionists".
          Hello Lena.
        3. seller trucks
          seller trucks 19 February 2014 10: 12
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          such a decision should include the formation of a new inclusive government, constitutional reform, and the preparation of transparent and democratic presidential elections.


          I welcome, Elena, how are you?

          by comment: she doesn't seem to understand what is happening and continues to distribute "liver".

          Guys hold on. I want to help you, but I don’t know how?
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 19 February 2014 11: 30
            +35
            Quote: seller trucks
            I welcome, Elena, how are you?

            HELLO TO ALL !!! Thanks guys! What am I? I can't go to Kiev - minibuses don't run. But my eldest - could not stand it - gathered his "retired" operatives, went to the police to help. If they themselves have no right to detain, then at least they will give a tip about who hid where. But if something happens, they will be able to detain "in self-defense."
            I worry, of course, only he "conscientiously" all his life, that's why he quit early, and now he cannot act differently. Well, I brought up such a person, now I "disentangle". I only know for sure - I would be there, I would also run to the aid of the wounded children. All the same, "a nurse in stock".
            1. igor.borov775
              igor.borov775 19 February 2014 14: 47
              +4
              Hi EGOZA MENTALLY I AM WITH YOU, too far to YOU, Do not rely on the EU, they will wait until the last wait and look for options to save the Maydans, It’s not at their place, I certainly understand that our authorities are not better but which ones are, Lawlessness and ours also where will you get from him, If there would be Old Man Lukashenko this certainly wasn’t, But we, like brothers, are not lucky in such things, It's a shame of course, but there is still hope that something will change, For many years to you
        4. siberalt
          siberalt 19 February 2014 10: 34
          +6
          Fidget:
          “The EU is ready to help Ukraine in this process,” she stressed. Did the under-suppressed flounder wake up? You go to ... and to ... and to ... with your "help!"
          Nobody woke up there. Everything goes according to their intended plan. Now they need to change the government, put their own, and they should already turn to the EU for help. Hence the calls for the formation of a broad government.
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        6. arane
          arane 19 February 2014 11: 08
          +7
          And who asked her opinion? She said a lot of things, but the output was nothing concrete, except for a practically direct hint that bandits should not be touched ...
          Negotiations, parliamentary process .....
          It’s the same as the patient has peritonitis, and the doctor from the EU is against blood, the operation is not humane ..... you need to continue consultations
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 19 February 2014 09: 00
      +10
      Quote: retired
      She is shocked, you see! And where were your brains when you shook your tits on the Maidan in front of a crowd of banderlogs ???

      And she thought how to "help" them! It was not for nothing that the "sick" were taken out there !!! am
      Maidan leaders in correspondence acknowledge the fact of torture of people in the Kyiv City State Administration. In particular, they are also concerned that the disclosure of this fact could damage the treatment of protesters abroad. This is stated in a letter sent on behalf of Dr. Olga Bogomolets to Rade Maidan. "From the Embassy of Lithuania received a letter from the NGO from Poltava with a request for treatment of victims of torture "Svoboda" in the KSCA abroad. With the surname, the conclusions of the forensic medical examination ... ", - presumably Olga Bogomolets writes to the Parliament of Maidana. The doctor notes that the disclosure of information about the beaten should be prevented, because this can create obstacles for the treatment of injured protesters abroad." One can only imagine what harm the Maidans will bring. interviews beaten in the basements of the Kyiv City State Administration. As a result, we are losing the ability to send guys from Svoboda and PS (Right Sector) for treatment and prosthetics. If there is an opportunity to influence the process by those who can enter the correct information into the correct ears in the Kyiv City State Administration, or tell me who it makes sense for me to talk to so that this is heard, "writes Bogomolets. In his letter, the author informs that he is now treating protesters abroad is problematic, because due to the emerging facts of violence on the Maidan, foreign journalists have many questions for them, polemika.com.ua informs.
    3. omsbon
      omsbon 19 February 2014 09: 04
      +4
      Quote: retired
      And where were your brains when you shook your tits on the Maidan in front of the crowd


      If it were boobs that are not ashamed to shake, then maybe these gorillas bandera would stick out on the Maidan.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 19 February 2014 10: 24
        +3
        Quote: omsbon
        If it were boobs you are not ashamed to shake

        Duc: what God gave, it shook request ...
        1. 311ove
          311ove 19 February 2014 14: 47
          +5
          Quote: retired
          Duc: what God gave, it shook.
          laughing laughing And God, fair .... Created by the old man K. Ashton ..... looked horrified and .... compensated for the position in the Geyparliament ... wassat bully
    4. Midshipman
      Midshipman 19 February 2014 09: 47
      +3
      This is just the next stage of a single scenario - first to stir up the people, shed blood, and then begin to publicly lament and groan that "blood is being shed"
    5. inkass_98
      inkass_98 19 February 2014 11: 16
      +6
      For some reason, no one from Europe is going to Kiev now to distribute food to the "victims of the regime". You could have brought fire extinguishing means with you (Klitschko has already learned how to use it, he can conduct fire safety instructions).
    6. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 06: 37
      0
      I completely agree.
  4. disa
    disa 19 February 2014 08: 50
    +2
    This needs power, so power is needed, and in the middle the people are piercing their heads. You look and there are no words how much everyone "does not care" about the people .. this is a civil war. But all that was necessary: ​​he appointed the re-election of the president, delayed the time, organizational measures, summer, everyone is waiting, held elections, the summer is over, these are again on the Maidan, but this is autumn, and there is winter again, and most likely not so funny. .. thirty degrees ... and that's it .... No, it was necessary to arrange an assault, although in reality it should have been done in November..babene. While the lords are fighting, the lads' forelocks crack. And the funny thing is that the most difficult is yet to come .. in spring and summer it's easier to rebel ... every day it's getting warmer and warmer. Etozh Ukraine ... have fun. Resort in Ukrainian, don't end up in the hospital ...
  5. Mazadrive
    Mazadrive 19 February 2014 08: 50
    +7
    Donkey for carrots ....

    It doesn’t fit with me, it’s been going on for so long .... people don’t work, don’t study?

    Then to restore all this ... and the West will pour money on it? - No, loans ... and the pen in debt.
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 19 February 2014 09: 34
      +8
      Quote: Mazadrive
      Then to restore all this ... and the West will pour money on it? - No, loans ... and the pen in debt.


      ... uh yes. It turns out that in any case, Russia will "get it." Either Russia will have an "ally" with a hole in its pocket and a part of the territory not belonging to Ukraine, or a "yapping" aggressive herd near the borders.
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 19 February 2014 10: 39
      +9
      there’s already talk not about money. in fact, a civil war has begun. the seizure of administrative buildings, military units has begun. there are already dead. this is how I would not want to, I think the collapse of the country.
  6. Syrzhn
    Syrzhn 19 February 2014 08: 50
    +8
    opposition finally scares the EU with fascist aspirations
    ?!
    What is this about? Isn't this the very EU that raised these fascists?
  7. Bassoon