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Puppet Theater in Geneva: the end of the second act

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Puppet Theater in Geneva: the end of the second act



15 February in Geneva ended the second round of negotiations between the delegations of Syria and the "opposition" in the framework of the international conference "Geneva-2". Many observers believe that he failed - the parties have not reached any agreements, the date of the next round has not been determined.
As stated by the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the SAR, Faisal Al-Mekdad, “We came here to achieve a political solution to the Syrian crisis. But the other side came here with a different agenda, which is not realistic. ” He added that the "opposition" wants to discuss only the creation of a transitional authority, and the government wants to start with the fight against terrorism and the creation of conditions for the restoration of security in Syria.

As for the so-called “opposition,” its representative Luay Safi demanded ... to replace the government delegation, because they “cannot reach agreements with the current negotiating team.” Although the Syrian delegation is represented by the most experienced diplomats, it is doing everything possible for the success of the negotiations, making proposals, offering a peaceful solution to the conflict.

With such provocative and divorced from reality statements, the “opposition” wishes to actually disrupt the conference and force the Syrian delegation to leave Geneva definitively. However, the Syrian delegation claims that it will leave the negotiations only after the United Nations special envoy to the SAR refuses them, Lakhdar Brahimi.

In addition, Luay Safi urged Russia not to block the draft UN Security Council resolution on the humanitarian situation in Syria, since, according to him, it is "important for the Syrian people." However, this resolution contains the threat of new sanctions against the Syrian people, who have been suffering from sanctions for three years already. Thus, the “opposition” considers it important to further tighten the noose around the neck of the Syrian people, claiming that it is in their interests!

Why is the “opposition delegation” behaving so unconstructively? The answer is simple - it is completely controlled by external forces. In fact, only puppets are present on the stage of negotiations, and those who are behind the scenes control them. Like in a provincial puppet theater.
After the actions of the “opposition”, which did everything possible to fail the negotiations, the votes of those who control the figures at the negotiating table on behalf of this “opposition” followed.

For example, US Secretary of State John Kerry blamed the Syrian delegation for the lack of progress in the negotiations. According to him, this delegation even “prevents the holding of the Geneva-2 conference. As much as Mr. Kerry would like, the fate of Syria would be decided without the participation of the Syrian side itself!

However, he expressed the opinion that the “opposition” showed a desire to negotiate with the Syrian authorities: “The opposition delegation has constantly demonstrated that it wants constructive negotiations in the interests of the entire Syrian people.” Although practice showed quite the opposite. During the first round of negotiations, the “opposition” rejected the political declaration proposed by Damascus on the peaceful settlement of the crisis and a number of other documents, including the draft statement on combating terrorism. During the second round, the “opposition” again refused to discuss the topic of ending violence and terrorism, which is a key condition for a political resolution of the situation.

In his usual shameless manner, Kerry called for increased pressure on Syria, which already impedes negotiations and any peaceful resolution, as the “opposition” terrorists feel their utter impunity.

The foreign ministers of Britain, France and even Germany expressed the same spirit.

However, the UN special envoy for Syria Lakhdar Brahimi has a different assessment of the talks. He agreed that the first point should be the fight against terrorism and an end to violence. According to him, the agenda of the future round of negotiations includes four items: the fight against violence and terrorism, the transitional governing body, the preservation of national institutions and the issue of national dialogue and reconciliation.
It is this agreement on the agenda of the next round that can be called the main outcome of the last round of negotiations.

The representative of the Syrian delegation, the permanent representative of the SAR to the UN, Bashar Al-Jafari, said that his country fully agrees with such an agenda for the third round. According to him, every question should be discussed after reaching agreement on the previous one.

In Syria itself, the process of achieving local reconciliation continues. Thus, in the three southern suburbs of Damascus — Beit Sahm, Babill, and Eld — the militants agreed to cease fire in exchange for the opportunity to use the amnesty and avoid criminal prosecution. In the province of Quneitra in the south of the country, the rebel 72 surrendered to the authorities.

As for the people of Syria, they are now actively participating in demonstrations in support of the army and the idea of ​​national reconciliation.

February 15 held a demonstration in the area of ​​the Old City of Damascus - in the quarter Al-Shagur. Despite the rainy weather, more than 5 thousand people took to the streets. Flags of neighboring houses greeted them with flags.





Patriotic actions were also held in the cities of Aleppo, Latakia, Suweida, Homs, Hama. Their participants expressed the full support of the Syrian delegation at the Geneva-2 and spoke in favor of an end to terrorism and the restoration of a normal life.
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  1. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 18 February 2014 07: 57
    +9
    If negotiations begin with an ultimatum, then what should I call it? what can be achieved? From the very beginning, I wrote that this is not a negotiation, it is a theater of the absurd, in which there are not even spectators, where the actors play for themselves. This, of course, has nothing to do with the Syrian government delegation.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 18 February 2014 18: 34
      +2
      Quote: vladsolo56
      From the very beginning, I wrote that this is not negotiation, this is the theater of the absurd, in which there are not even spectators, where the actors play for themselves.

      This is true, how can one discuss at negotiations ANYTHING with the "opposition" who have long ago asked all their positions in Syria to the Wahhabis and no longer controls and decides anything ??? !!! fool Well, let's say they agreed on peace, and so what? Something will change ?! request Damn, insanity, it's like agreeing on the purchase of an apartment with the penultimate host, to which it no longer belongs. fool

      Quote: vladsolo56
      This, of course, has nothing to do with the Syrian government delegation.

      This is natural, since they, in contrast to the "opposition" control your side in this matter, and their owner is more purposeful. request
  2. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 18 February 2014 09: 18
    +7
    You just need to continue quietly quietly destroying the terrorists ... hi
    1. AVV
      AVV 18 February 2014 15: 10
      +3
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      You just need to continue quietly quietly destroying the terrorists ... hi

      It is necessary not to pay any attention to what American henchmen say there !!! And to do our job, remove this alien garbage from the cities that the West gives out as civilians !!!
      1. alone
        alone 18 February 2014 21: 10
        +1
        Quote: AVV
        It’s necessary not to pay any attention to what American henchmen say there !!! And to do our job, remove this alien garbage from the cities,


        This is not as easy as it seems to all of us. For the militants there are vast territories that are under their control. This means constant replenishment, replenishment. Supply.
  3. muhomor
    muhomor 18 February 2014 10: 32
    +1
    Negotiations always begin with harsh statements and ultimatums. The parties "test" each other for "lice" and willingness to compromise. And then, in direct proportion to the position on the fronts, a gradual convergence of positions begins. Thus, the "hotter" the opposition will be in battles, the more affectionate it will be. We must fight for Syria.
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 18 February 2014 12: 55
      +3
      Quote: muhomor
      The parties "probe" each other for "lice"

      Yes, everything is true, but here is another case, the opposition has no words and no brains, it speaks through someone else's lips, which are on the edge of the situation at the front. After all, it is clear that only one demand is being voiced, "Assad must leave," there are no more proposals, and everyone knows where the wind is blowing from. It's simple, no matter who opens the mouth, it matters who the prompter.
  4. Sultan
    Sultan 18 February 2014 13: 15
    +3
    Yes, just real steps from Geneva should go to the fight against terrorism, i.e. those supposedly "oppositionists" must self-destruct to resolve the conflict in Syria ... For some reason, radical bearded thugs do not agree to suicide. So they are pulling the cat by the tail, shifting the blame from a sore head to a healthy one ... The whole point of Geneva is designed to convince the world community of the senselessness of negotiations with the bandits, that they should only be physically destroyed in a systematic way ... This is our task and the tasks of diplomats Syrian government B. Assad!
    1. Basil123
      Basil123 18 February 2014 17: 11
      +1
      meanwhile OPPOSITION https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=427908093979451&set=vb.339141082856153&type
      = 2 & theater
  5. Alex toll
    Alex toll 18 February 2014 14: 29
    +2
    John Kerry just needs to arrange a dark one))))) How stupid these adult men behave ..... Everyone has long understood - where did the grandmother come from with weapons for the opposition and who shoots civilians, but no .... la !! ! Who is the theater played for? For voters of their countries USA, FRANZ, GERM,? If they understand that their politicians spend the lives of the sons of their country + the taxes of the parents of these sons for their own funeral, and the fact of the death of their sons for the production of even more bombs and again in a circle - there will simply be a coup and Merkel with Obama and Olan will tear the whole J. .... on the flag!
  6. dr.star75
    dr.star75 18 February 2014 16: 40
    +2
    All "oppositionists" have the same Wishlist: (Assad, Yanukovych, Putin) must leave! Negotiations must begin like this: only the surrender of the militants. how and where will they hand over their weapons! All.
  7. alone
    alone 18 February 2014 19: 41
    -2
    However, interesting negotiations were going on there. Some started negotiations in advance warning everyone that they were not going to discuss Assad’s withdrawal from power. The second also came there saying that without Assad’s leaving the government there would be no progress in the negotiations.) The result was an imitation of negotiations. more. As long as politicians play their dirty games, innocent women, children, old people die. The country turns into piles of construction waste. The economy collapsed. The country was thrown back by modest estimates 40-50 years ago.

    P.S. There is almost no way out of the situation. Too much blood has been shed on both sides. And the war will go to the end until each other is completely exterminated. Apparently, all the people suffer from the drum.
  8. Vita_vko
    Vita_vko 18 February 2014 19: 42
    +3
    The talks in Geneva, the elimination of chemical weapons played a major role, gave time to the military and the Syrian government to track down and destroy the main forces of the militants.
    But real negotiations need to be conducted with the main directors of this war, the UAE and their patrons in the United States. And lead in a language that they always understood.
  9. alone
    alone 18 February 2014 19: 44
    0
    what In the troops surrounded by troops of Homs and Hame. Where militants are sitting, there are demonstrations against militants belay
    1. elenagromova
      18 February 2014 20: 25
      +1
      In the siege only the old city of Homs. And Homs is not the whole Old Town. Old Town is a relatively small area.
      And Hama is completely under the control of a legitimate army.
      1. atalef
        atalef 18 February 2014 20: 31
        0
        Quote: elenagromova
        And Hama is completely under the control of a legitimate army.

        Elena . when you have already won and finally the wounded Syrians will stop being treated at my expense in our hospitals.
        1. alone
          alone 18 February 2014 20: 43
          0
          Eh. Alexander, apparently you will have to wait a very long time. what
          1. atalef
            atalef 18 February 2014 20: 57
            0
            Quote: lonely
            Eh. Alexander, apparently you will have to wait a very long time.

            Sorry, I feel in a sense
            1. elenagromova
              18 February 2014 21: 16
              +1
              you are not the Syrians are treated, and bandyuki
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 18 February 2014 21: 45
                0
                Quote: elenagromova
                you are not the Syrians are treated, and bandyuki

                Do you call women, old people and children?
              2. alone
                alone 18 February 2014 21: 52
                +2
                Quote: elenagromova
                you are not the Syrians are treated, and bandyuki




                A very seasoned wounded bandit !! not ashamed to call a 13-year-old child a gangster? To be honest, I did not expect it!
                1. elenagromova
                  19 February 2014 02: 04
                  -3
                  And the 10-year-old bad was, imagine. They recruit adolescents, forcing him to shoot soldiers in childhood ...
      2. alone
        alone 18 February 2014 20: 32
        +2


        Quote: elenagromova
        And Hama is completely under the control of a legitimate army.


        Today is February 19th. This material was shot the other day in Hama. Is it called full control? Do you know what is under the control of the city? If not. The military can explain to you what this means hi
        1. elenagromova
          18 February 2014 21: 17
          0
          This is not Hama, but a remote village in the province.
          1. alone
            alone 18 February 2014 21: 42
            0
            Deaf village? You are mistaken, this is really the city of Hama. I know what I put and what I write.
  10. oscar
    oscar 18 February 2014 23: 18
    0
    Peacefully, the militants cannot be stopped. But the Syrian government is also adequate and they are not going to drop everything ... Everything will be decided only by a military operation. Hope in our favor. soldier
  11. elenagromova
    19 February 2014 02: 37
    0
    Quote: lonely
    Deaf village? You are mistaken, this is really the city of Hama. I know what I put and what I write.


    Have you ever been in this Hama?
    I was.
    Or did two different Hamas appear in Syria?














    1. alone
      alone 19 February 2014 19: 27
      +1
      And what? What did you introduce here the whole Hama? Hama is almost 700 thousandth city. Hama is not only a mill, three buildings are a mosque with a minaret. You probably forgot, I have my own connections in Syria. And I draw information from there, as well.
      1. elenagromova
        19 February 2014 22: 52
        -3
        First, there are the most diverse areas of Hama, and the center and suburbs.
        Secondly, maybe you have connections among the Wahhabis, but they tend to lie and exaggerate their successes.
        Thirdly, all your connections are of little value, if for you the famous norias - water wheels - are "mills". So I will make the inhabitants of Hama laugh by telling them that these are "mills"!
        1. alone
          alone 19 February 2014 23: 20
          +2
          For your information, I am a Shiite)) I cannot have connections with the Wahhabis. For them I am the same "kafir." You could just ask about the religion of Azerbaijanis in general. Unlike Syria, in my country the Wahhabis cannot even utter a word .Immediately liquidated on the spot. And for this to bomb cities and villages is not necessary. And as for the lies, the Wahhabis and SANA, which you quote so zealously, lie equally impudently and cynically.

          And about your ridicule, I will tell you openly and honestly. Compared to your articles, my puncture with the "mill" is the difference between heaven and earth. I advise you to leave your political views and pass on the bitter truth from Syria. And you are already tired of waiting for that Victory , about which you constantly write))
  12. elenagromova
    19 February 2014 23: 29
    -1
    Well, if Shiite, then it should be shameful to double pour water on the Wahhabi mill.
    And if the "truth" for you is "boss, it's all gone" - with this "truth" is not for me.
    1. alone
      alone 19 February 2014 23: 38
      +1
      Quote: elenagromova
      Well, if Shiite, then it should be shameful to double pour water on the Wahhabi mill.
      And if the "truth" for you is "boss, it's all gone" - with this "truth" is not for me.


      It is shameful that under the guise of fighting against the Wahhabis, kill all those who are not Shiites and Alawites, and at the same time massively kill women, children and the elderly. You call a 13-year-old wounded girl an accomplice of the militants and justify this by saying that the militants recruit teenagers).

      The truth is what is true. And for me personally it is the most important thing. And the box doesn’t decorate anyone, especially an adult. You talk about the complete control of the city, and you don't know what the full control is. And if you don't, in the articles it’s not worth writing about it.
      1. elenagromova
        20 February 2014 00: 06
        -1
        Terrorists kill everyone - Sunnis, Shiites, Alawites, Christians, and atheists. Here to them and address your anger.
        And, by the way, to say that you know Ham, and not knowing about the water wheels is the same as saying that you know Moscow, and not knowing about the Kremlin. So if anyone is lying here, it's you.
        1. alone
          alone 20 February 2014 00: 11
          +2
          Your constant inconsistencies in the articles just indicate the opposite. We already discussed this once. Apparently this was not a lesson. In Syria, even individual suburban royons are uncontrolled, and you are talking about Hama)) I advise you to rely on the dry facts when assessing the operational situation. SANA unreliable source. Information war.
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 19 February 2014 23: 39
      0
      Quote: elenagromova
      shamefully doubly pouring water into a Wahhabi mill.
      Elena, the theme of Syria is no longer fashionable)) right now the front has moved to Ukraine. Write better from there. And to be honest, you have been writing with Anna-News for 2 years and showing that here, Assad will win, now the victory is near, and there is no victory and no victory. He already can’t really control his capital, not to mention the rest of the country. WITH
      He had to think and make reforms earlier. And now the train has left. It remains to see the end. It's a pity the country and the people of the victims.
  13. elenagromova
    20 February 2014 00: 07
    -1
    Well, what else, to follow the fashion, I'm not a blonde with a fashion for boots or jackets. This is the first.
    I do not need to fasten to the bath-news, I have nothing to do with her. This is the second.
    How can I write from Ukraine if I am physically in Syria? This is the third.
    Fourth, and most importantly - who told you that Damascus is not under control? Come see.
    1. alone
      alone 20 February 2014 00: 20
      +1
      Quote: elenagromova
      Fourth, and most importantly - who told you that Damascus is not under control? Come see.

      http://stalingrad-info.ru/karta-boevyih-deystviy-v-damaske-na-12-04-13/

      Here is a link for you. Here is a map of the operational situation in Damascus. As you can see with blue circles
      the areas under the control of the militants are indicated. If and after this you begin to assert that Damascus is under complete control, I have no words left.
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 20 February 2014 04: 37
        0
        Quote: lonely
        Here is a link for you. Here is a map of the operational situation in Damascus. As you can see with blue circles
        the areas under the control of the militants are indicated. If and after this you begin to assert that Damascus is under complete control, I have no words left.

        Why crucify in front of a blank wall? Hedgehog is understandable that she receives a salary from the Ministry of Agitation under Assad, and the picture on the profile picture only confirms. For what she was paid, then she will be tolling like a parrot, and it is useless to argue, this is a business - nothing personal. request
  14. elenagromova
    20 February 2014 00: 37
    -1
    Quote: lonely
    Quote: elenagromova
    Fourth, and most importantly - who told you that Damascus is not under control? Come see.

    http://stalingrad-info.ru/karta-boevyih-deystviy-v-damaske-na-12-04-13/

    Here is a link for you. Here is a map of the operational situation in Damascus. As you can see with blue circles
    the areas under the control of the militants are indicated. If and after this you begin to assert that Damascus is under complete control, I have no words left.


    This is an old map. Over the year, much has changed. In Kabun and Barzai went through the process of reconciliation, the fighting stopped, the militants left him. The fighting continues in Jobar and Duma - but these are suburbs, not a city. The only place where militants still exist in the city is the Yarmuk Palestinian refugee camp, but this place is surrounded by an army so that the bandits do not break into other areas. And more than half of the suburbs since that time cleaned.