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Test of endurance

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Venezuela is shocked - February 12 in Caracas there were major clashes between opposition supporters and the ruling party. It seems that the wave of violence that has swept over the city of this Latin American republic and inspired from abroad has not yet subsided: the opponents of the current president of the country, Nicolas Maduro, at least decided to test his strength. The maximum program is a complete change of power. Oil-rich Venezuela has long become one of the main goals of American policy, and it seems that in Washington it was time to clean up the Venezuelan oil fields to their hands.

Deja vu

February 12 in Venezuela, one of the largest provocations against the legally elected government took place: pogroms took place on this day in Caracas, as well as in the cities of Merida and Tachira. There were no victims.

The main demand of the rioters was the resignation of President Nicolas Maduro, although in recent days the protesters have demanded that the authorities also release the extremists who were detained during the riots: these people went to jail because they stormed the prosecutor's office, attacked the police and engaged in vandalism. In a fit of rage, “peaceful protesters” damaged even the playground with children's rides, located next to the prosecutor’s office building.

The demonstrators were well armed and trained. They carried body armor, masks, metal rods. Prepared in advance and the party "Molotov cocktails" - bottles of incendiary, which caused a lot of harm to law enforcement. During the riots, the mob used firearms. weapon, which led to the death of several people. In turn, the police used only tear gas and rubber bullets.

It is significant that the February events in Venezuela are similar not only to the Ukrainian Maidan, but also to the attempt to overthrow Hugo Chávez in 2002 year. Then the country suffered from a series of pogroms, but the military, remaining loyal to the president, stopped the insurgency. Thanks to the decisive actions of the armed forces, in the following 10 years the opposition did not dare to disturb the peace, and preferred to sit in parliament.

February 12 pogroms coordinated their actions through social networks. It turned out that the actions of violence had been prepared in advance by the organization “Narodnaya Volya”. Its leader is Leopoldo Lopez - a politician, known for his calls for the overthrow of the current government. He has two entities - legal and economic, and he was once actively involved in "parliamentary" politics, without calling his supporters for violent actions.

Lopez took part in the presidential election of 2013 of the year, but withdrew his candidacy in favor of Enrique Capriles-Radonsky, the main opposition candidate who lost to Nicolas Maduro with a small margin. It was after these elections that the situation changed dramatically: Leopoldo Lopez, with the radical wing of the opposition, became the spokesman for his interests. For the sharp statements of Lopez in recent months, nicknamed "the face of fascism."

It is known that the disgraced politician cooperates with the CIA, and does not even hide it. Immediately after the riots began, the Prosecutor General's Office became interested in Lopez, and February 13 put him on the wanted list. It is said that the oppositionist was going to flee to the USA - it seems that he was prepared for a cushy job as one of the “victims of the regime”.

Also on the list is Fernando Gerbassi, a retired vice admiral and former ambassador of Venezuela to Colombia. Gerbassi led the unrest in Venezuela adjacent to the Colombian border. This fact suggests that the States are ready to use its neighbors to organize the fight against Nicolas Maduro. Paramilitares detachments have already arrived from Colombia in Venezuela - armed groups that fought against the ELN and FARC partisans. Militants are concentrated in the Venezuelan states of Tachira, Zulia, Merida and Barinas, where the recent pogroms have become the most violent.

"Revolutionaries" on self-sufficiency

Crossing the border, members of Colombian groups can move freely throughout the territory of Venezuela, since they are almost no different from the local population. Not the fact that Venezuelans took to the streets of Venezuelan cities. However, the ideas of the militants are shared by some students who act, rather, as human shields, than as full-fledged "fighters against the regime."

Interestingly, José Vicente Rangel, a Venezuelan political scientist and broadcaster, warned about the possible conduct of subversive operations in Venezuela back in 2013. In his television program Confidential, Rangel spoke about foreign fighters who are being prepared by US intelligence agencies for invasion of Venezuela.

It became known that Leopoldo Lopez, the leader of extremists, during his last visit to the United States visited Miami and talked with militants who are being trained in a special training camp Los Cayos. The leaders of this camp are Cuban migrants. Also in Miami is the focal point connecting the Venezuelan conspirators with their American patrons.

Smugglers facilitate the “work” of the rebels: the rampant crime on the long Colombian-Venezuelan border makes it possible to transport people, weapons and equipment from Colombia to Venezuela without any problems. In addition, mafia groups undermine the Venezuelan economy. So, smugglers massively export consumer goods available here from Venezuela: in poor Colombia, they can be sold at exorbitant prices. Separately, it is necessary to mention the smuggling of fuel, fuel and automobile parts: very often, gasoline is simply not brought to the border of Venezuelan gas stations, and immediately poured into cans and sent to Colombia.

Colombian paramilitares help criminals. Militants arrange reprisals against customs officers and border guards, ensure the protection of goods. Of course, their services cost money, so the armed forces receive a portion of the proceeds from the sale of smuggled goods. Smuggling is one of the most important sources of funding for mass protests on a par with grants coming from abroad.

Prospects of rebellion

But it seems that the rebels have no chance of overthrowing Nicolas Maduro: the president has publicly stated that he is not going to give up "not one millimeter of power." So Maduro feels the support of the people and the army. If the military defend the state, as happened in 2002, the militants will be forced to return to the mountains of Colombia.

The moderate opposition also condemns the radicals. Enrique Capriles-Radonsky, a former rival of Nicolas Maduro, disavows extremists. The only thing the main oppositionist wants is the readiness of the president to answer for his actions. According to Capriles, the Venezuelans will never kill each other, and they will not succeed in sowing distemper in the country.

Maduro is ready to listen to criticism from the moderate opposition: he intends to disarm the population, including the guards of volunteers who defended the state. Venezuelan political experts consider such a decision sensible, since the squads are incredibly difficult to lead, and they can get out of control by chance: where are the guarantees that unprepared activists will not open fire on their own if two patrols clash face to face on a dark street? No wonder that Parliament Speaker Cabello warned warriors that in any situation, calm and common sense must be maintained.

At the same time, Nicolas Maduro relies on the police. We are not talking about the army yet: according to the president, the threat has not yet reached such a level when it is necessary to use military force. However, if the army says its word, the rebellion will quickly come to naught, and turn into a protracted sabotage war - even if the United States and Colombia do not give up their support for the militants. If the extremists remain without foreign aid, the situation of the year 2002 will repeat, and Maduro will forget about the problems with the opposition for at least 10 years.
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  1. mirag2
    mirag2 18 February 2014 07: 24
    +12
    Everything is clear here!
    What can I say!
    Venezuela has the largest reserves of proven oil.
    And it struck me that on one of the Israeli resources on the map of oil exporting countries, Venezuela was not even marked as the owner of the oil.
    Yes, and one of our "guest-friends" also remember shouting:
    -What should Russia do in Venezuela? Toilet paper is a deficit, and in general it is rotten ...
    Draw conclusions about the degree of benevolence towards our interests from such "people".
    And our oil companies invested about $ 25 billion there.
    The return will be-if Maduro stands.
    1. pribolt
      pribolt 18 February 2014 10: 08
      +3
      Not everything is so simple as the author writes, it is clear that the United States wants to put its paw in Venezuela, they write about large oil reserves, but no one says what kind of oil, and this is (heavy) oil which is also full in our country and we did not even start to produce it. Our companies are now gaining experience in the production of such oil there. In addition, the author did not write why these protests, nothing about hyperinflation, nothing about the fact that society was almost halved and now I think it's hard to say more supporters or opponents from Mr. Maduro. I wonder which of our commentators remembers how it was with us in the late 80s and early 90s when there were no goods in stores and if you could find it only with speculators for a lot of money ... This is Venezuela now. If suddenly someone is going to argue with me, think that you will prove your case to a person who lived and worked in Venezuela for 8 years and returned home less than a year ...
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 18 February 2014 10: 41
        +2
        Quote: pribolt
        Not everything is so simple as the author writes, it is clear that the United States wants to put its paw in


        Well, that is, you are on the side of the United States, that is, you think that it is right to overthrow governments and ruin countries.

        Whatever it was in Venezuela, neither the United States nor any other endos should go into the internal affairs of the country.

        My opinion is purely that Maduro must deal very harshly with all the arrested thugs and warn others about the possibility of imposing martial law (with military courts and other amenities) in regions where hired oppositionists will be buzzing.
        1. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 20
          0
          I completely agree.

          Useful links

          Nikolai Starikov
          About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
          About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
          A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

          As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
          In great detail about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: SV Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Everyone MUST read: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
          What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
      2. rolik
        rolik 18 February 2014 11: 50
        +6
        Quote: pribolt
        and this is (heavy) oil which we also have

        There is also light oil. And it’s pretty decent, and it’s used to dilute heavy oil for transportation.
        1. AVV
          AVV 18 February 2014 15: 28
          +2
          Quote: rolik
          Quote: pribolt
          and this is (heavy) oil which we also have

          There is also light oil. And it’s pretty decent, and it’s used to dilute heavy oil for transportation.

          That is why the States are ready for any provocation that they would get oil !!! The CIA weaves its nets !!!
      3. revnagan
        revnagan 18 February 2014 12: 18
        +2
        Quote: pribolt
        I wonder which of our commentators remembers how it was with us in the late 80s and early 90s when there were no goods in stores and if you could find it only with speculators for a lot of money ... This is Venezuela now.

        Well, what will change if we replace the legitimate president with Kapriles-Radonsky? Will the CIA restore justice in the country and stop hyperinflation? Only it seems to me that these guys understand fairness somewhat one-sidedly.
      4. Averias
        Averias 18 February 2014 12: 38
        +5
        Quote: pribolt
        If suddenly someone is going to argue with me, think that you will prove your case to a person who lived and worked in Venezuela for 8 years and returned home less than a year ...


        Forgive me of course, but this your statement looks like an "ultimatum". Say, I was there and you were not. And there is nothing to drink here. Forgive me, in different countries (mainly Europe), I also lived and worked for 7 years with "kopecks". And with certainty (even an ultimatum) I can only say one thing - there is no former Europe, there is a big w ... a. Communicating with ordinary people, I heard discontent. But the authorities, with their mouths open, talk about the delights of democracy, integration (who and where ???). And other nonsense. And the fact that the United States sticks its nose everywhere is a fact. Examples of this: The US share in the largest metallurgical concerns in Germany, the imposition (under the aegis of NATO) of our weapons. Although the Germans have their own no worse. And as for the lobby of Coca-Cola and McDonald's in France, it generally looks like a "war". But the French are great, hold on. Big Macs are not allowed on their land.
        Phew, sorry, carried away. And I have not been to Venezuela for a long time. We went to Angel Falls (beauty is not conceivable, scale). Yes, the poor, but they get little. But THEY LIVE, albeit poor but LIVE. But when the DEMOCRACY comes - to come CHAOS. And the country will turn into a raw materials appendage. With all the consequences.
        1. pribolt
          pribolt 18 February 2014 17: 43
          +4
          Quote: Averias
          Forgive me of course, but this your statement looks like an "ultimatum". Say, I was there and you were not. And there is nothing to drink here. I'm sorry, in different countries (mainly Europe),

          I don’t even pretend to be the smartest here, I just wrote it because I know the problem from the inside, for your information I have a wife and daughter (Venezuela) and I don’t know what to do to get them out of this priest, and I’m lying in the hospital with a broken leg and I feel completely sucks that I can’t help my family with anything. And for comrades who think that I would take everything there for the United States, so you shouldn’t do it that way, I even think that Russia invested so much money there with tanks alone and gave them five billion dollars in debt and oil companies could not be counted there at all, so they could it’s already up to us to defend our interests ... In general, it’s normal for us to lend to different countries in our Russian language, then they will pay x on us there .. they’ll put it, they also water it with slops, but we are all dew of God ...
          Is this some kind of masochism?
          1. 31231
            31231 18 February 2014 21: 16
            0
            I even think that Russia swelled so much money there with tanks alone, five billion were lent


            Can I talk about debt tanks, again in more detail with reference?

            In general, in our country it’s normal to lend to different countries in our Russian language, then x .. they will put it on us, they will also water it with slops, but we will all receive God's dew ...

            Who will put it on you? Wife with daughter? So you are here, and they are there. What was the problem of picking them here? Kgovaya gebnya prevented them to obtain Russian citizenship? Or do you just have to pour mud on someone and whitewash yourself?
            And again, why are you speaking for Venezuela and Russia? what the first put on the second. Are you Nicolas Maduro or GDP?
            1. pribolt
              pribolt 19 February 2014 04: 30
              -1
              You just need to google it and everything will work out ... and there will be five billion tanks ... And I also didn’t notice that someone doused with mud here, maybe you? Well then, I'm sorry ... And about my family, I think I do not have to answer you, what problems I had and why ...
          2. Shur
            Shur 18 February 2014 22: 13
            +2
            Yes, in Russian, who if not us? The mission is so visible ..
        2. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 21
          0
          Useful links

          Nikolai Starikov
          About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
          About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
          A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

          As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
          In great detail about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: SV Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Everyone MUST read: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
          What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
      5. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 18 February 2014 14: 26
        +2
        Quote: pribolt
        Not everything is so simple as the author writes, it is clear that the United States wants to put its paw in Venezuela, they write about large oil reserves, but no one says what kind of oil, and this is (heavy) oil which is also full in our country and we did not even start to produce it. Our companies are now gaining experience in the production of such oil there. In addition, the author did not write why these protests, nothing about hyperinflation, nothing about the fact that society was almost halved and now I think it's hard to say more supporters or opponents from Mr. Maduro. I wonder which of our commentators remembers how it was with us in the late 80s and early 90s when there were no goods in stores and if you could find it only with speculators for a lot of money ... This is Venezuela now. If suddenly someone is going to argue with me, think that you will prove your case to a person who lived and worked in Venezuela for 8 years and returned home less than a year ...

        This is all a consequence of populism, but it cannot happen forever.
      6. 31231
        31231 18 February 2014 21: 00
        +2
        that the US wants to put its paw in Venezuela

        that is, they still want? but do not stick a paw.

        that society is almost divided in half and now I think it's hard to say more supporters or opponents of Mr. Maduro.

        can I have a link about "halving"?
        If suddenly someone is going to argue with me, think that you will prove your case to a person who lived and worked in Venezuela for 8 years and returned home less than a year ...

        You know, I have lived in Russia for 37 years. And I am not saying on my own that "all of Russia supports Putin," or "half of Russia supports Putin." I say, on the basis of the presidential elections in the Russian Federation. Not polls by the Levada Center and Exit Poll, not by their feelings, but by the official and recognized by international observers of the presidential elections in the Russian Federation.
        So I do not advise you to boast about how much you and where you lived. You just carry your subjective point of view.
      7. Shur
        Shur 18 February 2014 22: 06
        +2
        Why argue, you yourself answered "as it was with us in the late 80s and early 90s, when there were no goods in stores, and if you could find it only from speculators for a lot of money." And that we have come to this "inevitably" they themselves are convincing us in every way. And the tagged agent is still "respected" and for some reason the entry "dove of peace" also sings about the "natural development of history."
        We living here in Russia only guess at the mass about the real state of affairs, but we learn the last in fact. You can live in the United States and what, you will be aware of the real fuss in power and at the top? Will you have full information about the situation in the country? Oh well ... then you are an unrealistically insightful and knowledgeable person ..
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    3. alone
      alone 18 February 2014 20: 55
      +1
      Quote: mirag2
      The return will be-if Maduro stands.


      So the problem is that under Chavez it was difficult to do. And Madura. Madura is not Chavez. And Venezuela is really not all in openwork.
    4. Maksik
      Maksik 19 February 2014 03: 06
      +1
      The return will be only to the oligarchs. Personally, nothing will fall into my hands, so I do not care either about Venezuela or the fact that someone there has invested fabulously grandmothers in oil fields. Let them take care of their people, rather than the stranger.
    5. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 09: 56
      0
      But what happens in Denmark by cruelty http://www.delphinidae.ru/publ/rodina_princa_datskogo_koshmar_dlja_delfinov_i_ki
      tov / 11-1-0-129
  2. dojjdik
    dojjdik 18 February 2014 07: 27
    +9
    well, if the president of Venezuela turns out to be the same "rag" as, for example, Kuchma in Ukraine or our demagogue Gorbachev, all the oil itself will pass into the hands of the states; for them this is a good addition to the multi-billion dollar military budget
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 18 February 2014 07: 29
      +3
      Naturally, so I say:
      -if Maduro will stand.
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 18 February 2014 10: 54
        +3
        Quote: mirag2
        Naturally, so I say:
        -if Maduro will stand.


        He has no options. Do not stand it - publicly quarter. I must understand what forces I had to face. Purely my opinion, he needs to sharply correct the law on treason and extremism. Everyone who calls for a change of government and pogroms should be resettled in closed sanatoriums for 20-25 years ... Chavez did not cough up - he sat like a sweet one.
    2. Sergh
      Sergh 18 February 2014 07: 32
      +8
      Quote: dojjdik
      the Venezuelan president will turn out to be the same "rag" as, for example, Kuchma on

      No, Maduro is a good friend and admirer of Hugo, he will sooner disperse this shelupon with a rifle and have nothing to lose because with amers and so stress nowhere else.
    3. calocha
      calocha 18 February 2014 09: 43
      +5
      I beg you not to confuse Maduro not Yanukovych! Only the spray will fly from Maidan. The conversation of the opposition about how a new buch in the center of Caracas will begin today has been intercepted. The USA has allocated billions of dollars for a move, 450 bucks for a nose .. Students decided to go to a festival ...
      1. 222222
        222222 18 February 2014 12: 36
        +2
        Maidan activists picket Rada: live online video broadcast
        18.02.2014/10/30, 981947:XNUMX am http://news.liga.net/video/politics/XNUMX-mirnoe_nastuplenie_na_verkhovnuyu_rad
        u_pryamaya_translyatsiya.htm
    4. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 24
      0
      Useful links

      Nikolai Starikov
      About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
      About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
      A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

      As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
      In great detail about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: SV Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Everyone MUST read: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
      What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
  3. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 18 February 2014 07: 30
    +5
    The Americans have everything according to the pattern. I wonder what is this Maduro in an extreme situation? Like Chavez or like a rag
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 18 February 2014 08: 01
      +4
      Quote: FC Skiff
      The Americans have everything according to the pattern. I wonder what is this Maduro in an extreme situation? Like Chavez or like a rag


      rubber bullets and gas. here is how.
  4. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 18 February 2014 08: 00
    +10
    This was to be expected, I am surprised that what happened was too late, I thought it would all start much earlier. In this situation, Maduro must understand only one thing, or he will break the enemies, or they will break Venezuela. War is declared, and in this war everything is for real.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2014 09: 05
      -4
      Quote: vladsolo56
      This was to be expected

      Of course, this was to be expected.
      Now the whole crowd of cheers - patriots (forgetting to include a little holo) will start to yell that all this is inspected by the West and almost every enemy of Maduro receives directly money from the State Department. Well, okay, this is understandable, not the ability and desire to find the true cause of the problem - it does not push it into the background and even more so it does not solve
      Let's start with a simple one, Venezuela is not a large Latin American country with huge oil reserves, without any problems selling it and is not under any sanctions. And now answer simple questions how?
      1. The crime rate in the country, one of the largest in the world, Caracas in terms of killings per 100t is in third place in the world after Somalia and South Africa
      2. The inflation rate reaches 30% per year
      3. In stores, the lack of essential goods (and this is at the time of globalization) and the absence of generally few problems for the same state to buy all this abroad) themselves, like any oil country 0 they no longer produce nichrome
      4. Maduro in the elections (and this taking into account the administrative resource and the wife of the Prosecutor General) - he won the election with difficulty
      5. The country (especially China) is in debt as in silk
      6. The health care system has collapsed (held exclusively by Cuban doctors)
      7. The wild level of corruption and protectionism in state corporations
      8. Absolutely corrupt police
      9. The official dollar is 3 times lower than the dollar on the black market
      10. The cottage is practically a state permit for the looting of private retail chains


      And add - all this is already very - very many years
      The people are just stupidly tired of how to explain all this on the one hand and whose oil is plentiful. more than in Saudi Arabia and which sways and sways continuously. Where's the money ? Where is everything going? Also, the State Department is stealing? Kill on the streets of Caracas - the same at the direction of the State Department?
      If Chavez used to be, then with his charisma he could at least somehow persuade, Maduro is a bus driver and a trade union boss. nothing but a strike can organize.
      Yes, and how? The whole system built by Chavez was initially utopian. The revolution in Lat America. Haha Where are all his friends from Bolivia. Cuba Argentina? Everyone was friends while he drove the money - doesn’t it remind anything?
      Chavez, like any bonza in the era of socialism, thinking about eternal life. Never thought of an adequate approach - keeping mediocrity like Maduro close by
      Well, here is the result.
      People are tired and you can blame it on the State Department as much as you like - but happy and satisfied citizens who believe their president do not run to demonstrations.
      The era of Chavez and his successor Maduro - slowly rolls back - the Bolivarian revolution was another beautiful myth, and it could not be otherwise.
      because all these revolutions imply only one thing - the power of cattle and a gorlopan with universal level of skill
      There are generally 2 ways left - the first Maduro will leave or the second - introduce a dictatorship in the country - but of course it will come under the sanctions of the same America (although it is hard to call it sanctions) - they will simply stop buying its oil, in principle this is America’s business from whom and what to buy.
      In general - oranges do not grow on aspen and each cook can manage the state --- as it is familiar
      Yes . forgot the article minus. propaganda in the style of the 70s of the newspaper Pravda.
      People are tired of this permanent revolution - they want to live in peace. it’s ok to eat and it’s safe to go out.
      1. Arbatov
        Arbatov 18 February 2014 09: 36
        +9
        Kindly refer to the source of such odious knowledge about the situation in Venezuela.
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 February 2014 11: 22
          -1
          Quote: Arbatov
          Kindly refer to the source of such odious knowledge about the situation in Venezuela

          Google to help you, it’s a shame to ask such childish questions. Type in a search engine - Venezuela - inflation, crime rate, buy dollars, unemployment.
          And you will succeed. hi
          1. Sergh
            Sergh 18 February 2014 12: 27
            +6
            Quote: atalef
            Google to help you, such children’s

            Yo-yo, almost collapsed from the chair ..., exactly, this is the same GUGL said, the most honest and truthful "man" on the planet !!!
            The next time you warn, and to prove with foam at the mouth, visit Venisuela, otherwise your moralizing is not convincing from the pictures. By the way, you can pass this to Google.
            1. atalef
              atalef 18 February 2014 13: 09
              -2
              Quote: Sergh
              Yo-yo, almost collapsed from the chair ..., exactly, this is the same GUGL said, the most honest and truthful "man" on the planet !!!

              Google is generally a search engine
              Although he is definitely far from the newspaper Tomorrow
              Quote: Sergh
              The next time you warn, and to prove with foam at the mouth, visit Venisuela, otherwise your moralizing is not convincing from the pictures.

              So what ? Of course, you have been to all countries about which you allow to make your judgments.
              I'm not talking about the fact that a visit to any country is a thing (the impressions are pretty relative)
              Statistics do not lie. Inflation, crime, living standards - official numbers - everything else is insenuation.
              1. 31231
                31231 18 February 2014 21: 25
                +2
                Google is generally a search engine

                Wow! Google has already started writing articles about Venezuela?
                Why don’t I think that you dragged another incredible story? Now about Venezuela.
                I've read almost another here http://latinoamericano.livejournal.com/855.html
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            3. Pimply
              Pimply 18 February 2014 15: 58
              +3
              Quote: Sergh
              Yo-yo, almost collapsed from the chair ..., exactly, this is the same GUGL said, the most honest and truthful "man" on the planet !!!
              The next time you warn, and to prove with foam at the mouth, visit Venisuela, otherwise your moralizing is not convincing from the pictures. By the way, you can pass this to Google.

              I threw Venezuelan Ministry of Internal Affairs official data there. As well as the Central Bank of the country
              1. Bezz
                Bezz 18 February 2014 23: 27
                0
                Quote: Pimply
                I threw Venezuelan Ministry of Internal Affairs official data there. As well as the Central Bank of the country

                A small excerpt, for those who are interested in "Top Secret" No. 5 2013. There is an official website of the newspaper, very interesting.
                "The oil ran out before it even started, and they reached the bananas. In October 2011 (when Sechin was once again visiting Caracas), Chavez happily promised the Russians ... a banana paradise. The high parties then seriously discussed the project of creating a joint banana enterprise "Orchid." It, according to the promises, was supposed to overwhelm Russians with flowers, mango, coconuts, avocado, guava, pineapple, papaya. The hit of the season was supposed to be ... kokui - a local moonshine made of agave! Chavez spoke seriously, drinking strong drinks for a Russian is a vital necessity, kokuy for him is the very thing: “Our kokui will compete even with Russian vodka.” He didn’t, and other Venezuelan products didn’t appear on our shelves, even bananas.

                The mass of other projections didn’t go further than chatter: joint production of aluminum, Lad assembly plant, joint gold mining, pipe plant, construction of a nuclear power plant, gas transmission systems ...

                But in the framework of the agreement between the Housing Construction Fund under the Mayor of Moscow and the Ministry of Housing of Venezuela, capital contractors since 2010 have been participating in the Great Housing Mission project - the construction of residential buildings in Caracas. This, of course, is wonderful, but the question is: what, the notorious Fund under the mayor in Moscow itself has nothing to do - all Muscovites are provided with housing, including waiting lists and veterans? And it is possible, with a clear conscience, to make happy the residents of Caracas - with the money of Muscovites, by the way ...
                Read on.
                See the original material on the "Top Secret" website: http://sovsekretno.ru/articles/id/3564/
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 19 February 2014 00: 08
                  +2
                  Quote: Bezz
                  See the original material on the "Top Secret" website: http://sovsekretno.ru/articles/id/3564/


                  I do not like to consider SovSecretno as an authoritative source
                  1. Bezz
                    Bezz 19 February 2014 15: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Pimply
                    I do not like to consider SovSecretno as an authoritative source

                    Strange argument. After all, they don’t offer to marry.
            4. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 18 February 2014 19: 08
              +2
              Quote: Sergh
              ... and then from the pictures your moralizing is not convincing.

              Well, I don’t know, don’t know, living THERE SO in a RICH OIL country, I probably would also rebel
              request

              1. aksakal
                aksakal 18 February 2014 19: 41
                +7
                In the oil-rich Congo, they do not rebel living even worse than you brought here in the photo. The Congolese dream that they would not be touched, extracting this very oil. But after all, someone must work on the development, and for free. So the Venezuelans actually have two choices, but they don’t know about it - either the Congolese version, or right now. And the Jew Capriles (oh, and the ubiquitous, it seems a little on the planet, but they have time to shit everywhere!) Tells them a tale about either now or paradise under an American protectorate. About crime - Atalef modestly kept silent about neighboring and quite pro-American Mexico, where there are generally records for murders. How is this the fault of the Chavez-Maduro regime when such crime is among neighbors Bolivia and Mexico? Transparent borders, identical ethnicity and language ... Why not tour in Caracas? In general, Atalef and Us Rat again hold us for fools, and again they hold us wrong.
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 19 February 2014 05: 14
                  -3
                  Quote: aksakal
                  In general, Atalef and Us Rat again hold us for fools, and again they hold us wrong.

                  Did I try to convince someone of something? belay I expressed my point of view, it is mine, and if someone does not agree with it, this is his business, not mine. And my opinion is simple - "I probably would also have rebelled in such conditions", no more, no less. And there is no need to look for hidden meaning and double bottom in this phrase. Passion for conspiracy theories leads to the development of aggressive paranoia, followed by hospitalization in a neurological dispensary. No.

                  Quote: aksakal
                  a Jew ... (oh, and the ubiquitous, like a little on the planet, but have time to spoil everywhere!)

                  I can advise you to wash your mouth with soap. negative For the next Nazi exclamation - I will send to the black list, to the other Hitler youths. I communicate with enemies exclusively through optics, given the correction for the wind. hi
                  1. Kazakhstan
                    Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 29
                    0
                    Useful links

                    Nikolai Starikov
                    About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
                    About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
                    A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

                    As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
                    In great detail about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: SV Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Everyone MUST read: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
                    What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
                  2. aksakal
                    aksakal 19 February 2014 21: 44
                    0
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    I can advise you to wash your mouth with soap. negative For the next Nazi exclamation, I’ll send you to the black list, to the other Hitler youths. I communicate with enemies exclusively through optics, given the correction for the wind. hi
                    - For God's sake! I can also communicate through optics - EASY! With pleasure! And I will tell the truth - but what I said is true! I'll just get better - instead of the word "Jew" we will enter the word "Zionist". For there are people among the Jews who deserve all respect, I don’t want to interfere with them with those we are talking about. But why are you, Zionists, so many? And wherever there is a storm, a representative of Zionism certainly pops up among the organizers? Capriles - in SABZH, in Ukraine - you know perfectly well who is who, in Russia Shenderovich deserved even condemnation from the most severe anti-Russian forces ... Even here in Kazakhstan, the Zionist Boris Giller, the founder of the newspaper "Karavan" (as it turns out, for this and created his own rag) inherited. And one and a couple of comrades-in-arms put the whole country on the ears! It’s scary to imagine what would happen if a dozen of such Hillers landed in Kazakhstan. Where do you teach them that one 15 million-strong country puts on the ears? Can you prove that this is an accident? Why is there not enough space for you on a huge planet? Do you not understand that it is precisely this kind of unscrupulousness in the seizure of power in a country where there has never been either Zionism or anything from the Jewish-Jewish culture, which leads to the emergence of anti-Semitism in this country? For two years now I have been tormented by this question - and after all, the Zionists understand the consequences, but why do they deliberately do such things? After all, Shenderovich perfectly understood, scribbling his dirty insinuations, to what generalizing conclusions (not advertised in the mass press and in general somehow publicly) the Russian man in the street would come. He understood and deliberately shit, as Capriles and the "comrades" in Ukraine are shitting now. Is it all for the money? Are there any other ways to make money? The example of Israel itself shows that you can make money without these radical political curves of movements. Medicine, agricultural technologies, weapons ... Is it really such little money that you definitely need to try to take power in a foreign country, and if you don't, then go to such an aggravation that a sea of ​​blood will be shed? Are the Zionists comfortable in hell after that? We can all threaten and be offended, you sensibly answer the questions posed.
              2. Shur
                Shur 18 February 2014 22: 25
                +5
                And before the "beacons" of democracy and peace in the world, what prevented the fight against shacks in Venezuela? Who owned there before the "revolutions" everything and oil, including type in Google .. or is he silent?
                "Before the nationalization of 1976, oil fields were developed on the basis of concessions, the owners of which were first dominated by British companies, and from the late 1920s - by US corporations. According to the terms of the concessions, their owners owned the extracted raw materials, and they also set prices for it. The state received extremely low concession fees, subsoil (royalties) fees proportional to the volume of production, and income tax. "
                Some kind of duality, you respected representatives of the country of the chosen people ...
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 19 February 2014 05: 23
                  -2
                  Quote: Shur
                  "Before the nationalization of 1976, oil fields were developed on the basis of concessions, the owners of which were first dominated by British companies, and from the late 1920s - by US corporations. According to the terms of the concessions, their owners owned the extracted raw materials, and they also set prices for it. The state received extremely low concession fees, subsoil (royalties) fees proportional to the volume of production, and income tax. "

                  Yes, I do not care about political dregs, my comment hit only from a HOUSEHOLD point of view. Well-fed and contented - they do not start revolutions. request

                  Quote: Shur
                  Some kind of duality, you respected representatives of the country of the chosen people ...

                  Ltd! Do you believe in our chosenness? Can you convince me to believe in her too? And then I have somehow strained it. lol
                  1. aksakal
                    aksakal 19 February 2014 21: 52
                    +1
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    Well-fed and contented - they do not start revolutions.

                    - no need to tell tales! Even in Denmark you can rock the boat, there would be dibs. Create media, invest in popularization, gain credibility, then find a sore spot in Danish society, for example, raise the problem of migrants. To dig up about Muslim Muslims, what bad they are, Danish laws do not recognize, with the help of various programs and banally with the help of money, to grow a bunch of Breiviks, organize them for a coordinated speech on a conditional signal - here you are
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    Well-fed and contented - they do not start revolutions.
                    . You are again past and again trying to hold us for fools. Well, at least learn to keep it right! am
                    1. And Us Rat
                      And Us Rat 20 February 2014 03: 28
                      -1
                      Quote: aksakal
                      Even in Denmark you can rock the boat, there would be dibs.

                      This is how many grandmas it will take? Although it doesn’t matter, all you can do is create a couple of radical terrorist cells that with their demarches will only rally the society around the authorities.
                      Try to organize a coup in Monaco or Switzerland by financing from outside, if it works out - then your theory has a place to be, but for now - it's idle speculation.

                      I will reveal a terrible secret - in a healthy democracy, a coup is not needed, an unwanted government removes the population with completely legal tools, and these same tools prevent the stalinist from outside, they simply do not allow him to gain a foothold in power without the support of the people (which, incidentally, happened a couple of times in our country - the prime ministers left resignation for citizens, without leading to impeachment). Popular discontent needs opposition and pressure from the authorities to "boil" to the level of a coup, so a coup is possible only under a totalitarian or oligarchic system, where open injustice and corruption flourish. And just a coup is more than real against a henchman from outside - for the same reasons.

                      Study political science or at least a civil law in a democratic system before going into such disputes.
                      The main trouble is that today there are practically no healthy democracies left, it’s really true, the same USA destroyed the USSR — they themselves began to turn into it.
                      In my opinion, the most adequate and sound government (though not democratic) in the PRC today, they are technocrats behind the mask of the Communists, and technocracy is the only thing that I respect more democracy, because technocracy is the future of mankind and salvation from final decay.
                  2. Shur
                    Shur 19 February 2014 23: 02
                    0
                    You can ignore the "political dregs", although it is more about the dregs of the economic (the economy of the colonial order), but the "economic dregs" itself will not ignore you.
                    What did you see in my faith? I tried to convince you of the chosen people of Israel? I'm not a rabbi .. here is the answer from them
                    "Rav Asher Kushnir answers
                    1. What exactly is our election among the nations of the world?
                    2. Does this idea smack of racism?
                    3. And if the truly chosen, why is it imperceptible?
                    We will answer in order.
                    1. Without going into all the necessary introductions, reservations, and definitions, we give only a simple explanation.
                    This world was created by the Creator for a specific purpose. To implement it, the T-Thief appealed to all the peoples of the world with a proposal to be the bearer of this goal. All refused except our forefathers. They thereby shouldered a colossal burden of responsibility for the entire world, changing the course of human history. Thus, the Creator brought into the world anew, through the Jews, the idea of ​​a single Gd and absolute morality. And the world accepted this in the form of 10 commandments received on Mount Sinai: do not kill, do not steal ... There, on Mount Sinai, we became the chosen people. And it is not only about knowing the ideal of ethical norms of behavior and moral perfection, but first of all being chosen is to observe these norms. We must be an example for other nations, thereby creating an opportunity to influence this world and its morality. This is our chosenness. "
                    Honestly, it makes no difference to me what the theme of "being chosen" is based on. In my opinion it is lofty, but this is just an opinion.
                    You are not straining with this .. you are biased ..
                    1. And Us Rat
                      And Us Rat 20 February 2014 03: 44
                      0
                      Quote: Shur
                      Answers Rav Asher Kushnir

                      And what kind of fruit is this ?!belay The first time I hear about this.what Does it somehow have to represent an authoritative opinion for me ?.request

                      Quote: Shur
                      This world was created by the Creator for a specific purpose ...

                      Stop stop stop!stop It obscurantism save for sermons, for me such speeches do not carry a meaning - I am an agnostic (apateist to be precise)lol

                      I was hoping that you would provide something substantial, and you would give me religious texts, and this is not a shame in the 21 century - the century of nanotechnology and genetic engineering, supercomputers and space flights? No.
                      Are you living in a dense remote place, where else are witches burned at the stake? lol
                      1. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 20 February 2014 03: 48
                        +1
                        Rav Asher Kushnir is one of the most famous Russian-speaking rabbis and lecturers.
                        He is the author of audio lectures, which have become a bestseller among Russian-speaking Jews. The cycles of his lectures, “Secrets of Family Happiness,” “Parenting,” “The Anatomy of the Human Soul,” “The Meaning of Life,” “Not Someone Jewish, But What a Jew ...” and others, have spread across the world in thousands of copies. Currently, Rabbi Asher Kushnir is preparing a series of lectures on Jewish holidays. His audio lessons about Rosh Hashanah, Hanukkah, Purim, Shavuot and Passover have already been published.
                        In recent years, Rav Asher Kushnir taught at the Mahon Lev - Jerusalem College of Technology, and dozens of Russian-speaking Avrechim and Bnei Thor rightly consider him their teacher.
                        Rabbi Kushnir together with Rabbi Bentsion Zilber are the spiritual leaders of our site. Also, Rabbi is the author of numerous answers to the questions of our readers, published in the section "Questions to the Rabbi."
                        In the Video Tutorials section, a series of lessons by Rabbi Asher based on the book by Mesilat Yesharim Rabbi Moshe-Haim Luzzato (RAMHAL) is presented. Also, his lesson is broadcast weekly on live video from Jerusalem.
                      2. And Us Rat
                        And Us Rat 20 February 2014 03: 58
                        0
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        Rabbi Kushnir together with Rabbi Bentsion Zilber are the spiritual leaders of our site.

                        belay Achtung! belay Are we talking about "VO"? belay
                    2. Shur
                      Shur 20 February 2014 17: 31
                      0
                      Have you noticed as an "agnostic" that religion is present in the 21st century and will be in the 22nd? Accept reality as it is please, and not as you "do not believe". However, you believe, otherwise what do you deny? What is the logic behind this? The same is not in your understanding of the world. Yes, and the text is not mine, the concept of being chosen is also not from myself .. In the outback, I dream of living, but what do you want? People in the outback, too, absorb less propaganda, about ... and bears, etc. Will you decide that you want to prove that the Jews are "not chosen", or that the United States is a great true democracy, which has the right to "have" everyone as it wants, contrary to any norms and rules? With the first as you please, since you are not "them", then there is no question. The second is without a doubt, as a Gnostic, you must dispute, everything is clear here.
                2. Shur
                  Shur 19 February 2014 23: 11
                  0
                  Yes, I do not care about political dregs, my comment hit only from a HOUSEHOLD point of view. Well-fed and contented - they do not start revolutions. request
                  Yes? Alas, it makes no sense to take you seriously further. Do you consider the leaders and instigators (I'm not talking about "entertainers"), say revolutions in Russia, "hungry and destitute"? Like a bottom-up revolution .. here I’ll take my leave .. You can argue, but I respect myself more ..
                  1. And Us Rat
                    And Us Rat 20 February 2014 03: 52
                    0
                    Quote: Shur
                    Do you consider the leaders and instigators (I'm not talking about "entertainers"), say revolutions in Russia, "hungry and poor"? Like a bottom-up revolution.

                    Of course not, but without fertile soil in the form of the "lower classes embittered by life" the seeds of the revolution cannot germinate - no matter how much water. yes
                    1. Shur
                      Shur 20 February 2014 17: 12
                      0
                      Quote: And Us Rat
                      Of course not, but without fertile soil in the form of the "lower classes embittered by life" the seeds of the revolution cannot germinate - no matter how much water.

                      Based on this, we are waiting for a revolution in the United States ?? By the way, in the context of your understanding of the "revolution", explain the February one? Although, of course, about contradictions, or rather counteraction, you understand, but alas, the rest, otherwise, would not have written nonsense ..
                    2. Shur
                      Shur 20 February 2014 17: 19
                      0
                      Popular uprisings, rebels, defenseless demonstrators .. oga oga .. So in Kiev, too, the "people" are revolting purely on their own initiative. Democracy, etc. All the same and many times, how do you believe in this yourself? Let's wait for time, it will judge. There it is clear from which "bottom" everything went and what the results will be.
        2. Shur
          Shur 18 February 2014 22: 20
          +1
          From gukla usa crime rate, unemployment, etc. is also present .. and what would we "teach"?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 18 February 2014 23: 18
            +1
            Quote: Shur
            From gukla usa crime rate, unemployment, etc. is also present .. and what would we "teach"?


            4,2 intentional killings per 100000 in the United States. In Venezuela - 10 times more. Despite the fact that in Venezuela there are 10 times fewer people living, even in absolute numbers the number of murders there is more than 11 thousand in the USA against 16 thousand in Venezuela.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 18 February 2014 23: 37
              0
              Quote: Pimply
              4,2 intentional killings per 100000 in the United States. In Venezuela - 10 times more. Despite the fact that in Venezuela there are 10 times fewer people living, even in absolute numbers the number of murders there is more than 11 thousand in the USA against 16 thousand in Venezuela.
              - there the whole region is like that. Maybe bother to bring statistics on Mexico, dear? Well to the heap in Bolivia. Well, the tradition throughout the region is to solve such a problem with a brow, which has become a problem. And you only Venezuela should bear for such a crime, but Mesquica and Bolivia are all right. But what about yak? Venezuelan goys do not want a Jewish president over them, how will you punish, dear? You can colorfully paint. We in Kazakhstan also do not want a Jewish president, so at least know what’s in your punitive arsenal
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 19 February 2014 00: 20
                +1
                Quote: aksakal
                - there the whole region is like that. Maybe bother to bring statistics on Mexico, dear? Well to the heap on Boliv

                Nevertheless, we are talking about Venezuela, where the level of homicides has increased 1998-fold since 4.
                In Mesquica, he is now 16,9, 100000 against 45,1 in Venezuela. In Mexico. With her drug wars. However, Mexico is a separate topic for conversation. The theme is that during the reign of the Bolivarian regime, Venezuela has received a 4-fold increase in premeditated murders. So you shouldn't be surprised at people's actions against the authorities. And do not blame everything on "the outward appearance of power." It's about that.

                Quote: aksakal
                We in Kazakhstan also do not want a Jewish president, so at least know what’s in your punitive arsenal

                Interestingly, why is it that you are so hysterically drawn to the Jews every time? You were offended by the Jews as a child? Or is devaluation unnerving?
                1. Kazakhstan
                  Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 34
                  +1
                  It is not in the Jews and devaluation, although one thing is not worth comparing with the other, different concepts. Think about it. And do not cling to words, ashamed. No.
                2. aksakal
                  aksakal 19 February 2014 22: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Interestingly, why is it that you are so hysterically drawn to the Jews every time? You were offended by the Jews as a child? Or is devaluation unnerving?
                  - actually a bunch of Jewish friends. Fairy tales are all about their greed and dishonesty. Normal people. But there are copies ... I have already posted about Hiller above - he alone managed to put Kazakhstan on the ears! Barely drove away. Then, in neighboring Russia, in Ukraine, we see Messrs. Zionists coming to power ... And I don’t want to ... Yes, devaluation is unpleasant, but this devaluation was done by our native radishes, let's say, we’ll curse, but where we go, we’ll forgive. You understand that if the devaluation is done by "radishes" who have taken power in Kazakhstan in an incomprehensible way, although there is a state in the Middle East, it will simply not be enough with screams and mats ... For your own good I try, I bark on the approaches, so that at least somehow warn your "Hillers" not to think - well, we honestly have nothing, we live naked, in yurts, graze cattle, well, you have nothing to do with us, believe me!
              2. Kazakhstan
                Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 31
                0
                I completely agree, I removed the minus.
            2. Shur
              Shur 20 February 2014 00: 16
              0
              Quote: Pimply
              4,2 intentional killings per 100000 in the United States. In Venezuela - 10 times more. Despite the fact that in Venezuela there are 10 times fewer people living, even in absolute numbers the number of murders there is more than 11 thousand in the USA against 16 thousand in Venezuela.

              Although there is no reason to trust these statistics, and it was not about a comparison with Venezuela, the blame for the crime figures in which lies, among other things, on those who "raped" it for so many years, but about the very fact of those figures in the United States. That is, they are somehow far from the ideal and the beacon ... Duck, do you think that it is worth constantly changing the "mode" on yourself for this? Do you understand there has been a complete US protectorate since the 1920s and you think they are not guilty of these consequences? You still give figures for Iraq, Syria and Libya with Afghanistan .. By the way, do you have figures for Colombia?
              Here's your statistics different (switch to English for comparison):
              "Intentional homicide, count and rate per 100,000 population (1995 - 2011) UNODC 2012
              For intentional killings
              USA -4.7 per 100 thousand (total 14612) when translated into Russian, however, dry out!
              Iraq-2 per 100 thousand (608 !!!)
              Syria 2,3 (463)
              Iran 3 (2215).
              China-1 per 100 thousand (13410)
              Russia 9,7 per 100 thousand (13826)
              Venezuela -45,1 (13080)
              Colombia-31,4 (14646) "
              Tell me where the headquarters of these "extras" is ...
              And even according to their numbers, it turns out that the United States is very far from Iraq ... Long live the great democratic Iraq, do "ku" to them .. The treacherous invader in the person of the United States attacked the most humane country ..
              Guano statistics .. yes, and vary as in the "market scales".
              And if you also correlate the standard of living in the United States and Venezuela, and take it all again, then we get that the richest residents of the United States are fooling themselves with fat ..
              Although for the sake of cleanliness it is necessary to write down here all the victims of US intervention, this is also premeditated murder! And then the statistics may disappoint you ... very much.
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      3. Pimply
        Pimply 18 February 2014 15: 50
        0
        For starters - Venezuelan Central Bank

        The death of President Hugo Chavez in Venezuela was followed by a new jump in inflation. If in 2012. prices rose by 20,1%, then in September 2013 alone. they jumped immediately by 4,4%. Compared to September 2012 prices, according to the Central Bank of Venezuela, rose by the beginning of October 2013. immediately by 49,4%.

        Recall that at the beginning of September 2013 The former head of the Central Bank of Venezuela, and now the Minister of Finance of the country, Nelson Merentes, declared the low efficiency of the economic policy pursued by the country's authorities.

        N. Merentes noted that the generous government subsidies allocated for the implementation of social programs and lower prices have significantly reduced poverty and inequality in Venezuela, but the country continues to have the highest inflation in Latin America, slow GDP growth and weak industry.

        Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/economics/11/10/2013/881831.shtml

        Yes, and Maduro himself

        Venezuelan annual inflation reached 56,2% in 2013, Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said on Monday December 30th.

        according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, in 2012 the number of murders increased by 14%, exceeding 16 thousand. Per 100 thousand population, this figure is 54 murders.

        RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20130413/932476629.html#ixzz2tfqQuFQI

        Yes, before Chávez came, there were 4500 killings a year.



        RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140117/989693126.html#ixzz2tfqBoYdi
        1. 31231
          31231 18 February 2014 21: 42
          +2
          Central Bank of Venezuela
          The death of President Hugo Chavez in Venezuela was followed by a new jump in inflation. If in 2012. prices rose by 20,1%, then in September 2013 alone. they jumped immediately by 4,4%. Compared to September 2012 prices, according to the Central Bank of Venezuela, rose by the beginning of October 2013. immediately by 49,4%.

          Alas, this only says http://top.rbc.ru/economics/11/10/2013/881831.shtml
          Where they say allegedly on behalf of the former head of the Central Bank of Venezuela, and now the Minister of Finance of the country Nelson Merentes. Does Merentes know what he says at RBC? Why am I not choking on the fact that in this non-material media there is no reference to the source?

          Well, this article
          http://ria.ru/world/20130413/932476629.html#comments

          not only that, without reference to the source, so also the comments under it are being burned at the expense of its immorality.


          Yeah, Eugene, the insanity of your brains smiles.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 18 February 2014 23: 39
            +2
            Quote: 31231
            Alas, this only says http://top.rbc.ru/economics/11/10/2013/881831.shtml
            Where they say allegedly on behalf of the former head of the Central Bank of Venezuela, and now the Minister of Finance of the country Nelson Merentes.

            El Banco Central de Venezuela (BCV) ha revelado este lunes, después de un silencio de casi un mes, la tasa de inflación registrada durante el mes de noviembre-mantenida hasta la fecha como un secreto de Estado-y su cifra anual para 2013. De acuerdo a sus mediciones, los precios aumentaron desde enero un 56,2% en el país (4,8% solo en noviembre).
            30 DIC 2013



            "Con la ley en la mano, vamos a imponer autoridad y que cada quien se registre. Yo podría decir la inflación de la guerra económica de 2013 llegó a una cifra inusual de 56,2 por ciento. Si nosotros no hubiéramos, tenido esta guerra Venezuela hubiera tenido una inflación de un dígito. Todos los ejercicios matemáticos que se hacen rubro por rubro, cuando los llevamos a un precio justo, dan la inflación más baja de la presidential historia económica de Venezate de "soicolás los Venezute de Venezuela", so Maduro, durante su discurso de fin de año ante la prensa nacional e internacional.

            http://www.infobae.com/2013/12/30/1534067-maduro-admitio-que-la-inflacion-acumul
            ada-venezuela-fue-del-562-2013

            http://www.el-nacional.com/economia/Inflacion-cierra-alta_0_328167301.html

            Links can lead dozens.

            Here about the killings
            http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/140109/maduro-como-hacemos-para-p
            arar-la-matanza-en-venezuela
            http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1653937-venezuela-cinco-detenidos-por-el-crimen-de-la
            -modelo-monica-spear-y-su-esposo
            http://elpais.com/elpais/2014/01/09/opinion/1389298155_547185.html

            UN statistics
            http://www.webcitation.org/6D2F0AMLR
            1. pribolt
              pribolt 19 February 2014 04: 48
              +1
              Here I see the first adequate person on this topic (Venezuela), the rest is simply difficult to explain, people do not want to see the obvious ...
              You write the truth about what is happening there, everything is an enemy right away, you support the USA right away, but I can’t stand the USA, but the truth is one-sided as it is written in this article, it also doesn’t suit me ...
            2. 31231
              31231 19 February 2014 08: 04
              0
              http://www.infobae.com/2013/12/30/1534067-maduro-admitio-que-la-inflacion-acumul

              ada-venezuela-fue-del-562-2013


              Infoportal. I tried to read. Gives yellowness. Yes, and Google's registration suggests that he is not quite adequate to Madura.

              http://www.el-nacional.com/economia/Inflacion-cierra-alta_0_328167301.html


              Interesting article. At least part of the truth reveals. At the beginning of the article, Madura allegedly talks about 56,2% of inflation. And then there is a layout for goods and services: Food - 41%, Transport services - 12,2% and that's it! Nothing more in the article on inflation.
              There is also a tab to the article on 35,9% inflation.
              In general, if you still knew the normal and adequate media of Venezuela. And then it feels like you are giving links to opposition media.
              Moreover, Maduro’s speech is not quoted verbatim, but allegedly based on his report. I dare to suggest that inflation of 56,2% is only for some category of goods and services, no more. For which the unworthy media clung to.

              Give the Venezuelans references to our non-living Echo Mats or the Ukrainian Censor.net, so they will also think that in Russia there is Gevalt.
              1. atalef
                atalef 19 February 2014 09: 07
                0
                Quote: 31231
                I dare to suggest that inflation of 56,2% is only for some category of goods and services, no more. For which the unworthy media clung to.

                Ah, to deceive me is so simple, I myself am glad to be deceived
                The reality is much more prosaic



                Economy and business Recent comments post link Comments print version change font Inflation rate in Venezuela has reached almost 46% since the beginning of the year
                No46 (570) November 15-21, 2013 Author: Information Service "BG"


                Venezuela's inflation rate reaches nearly 46% since the beginning of the year
                The Venezuelan inflation rate has reached 45,8% since the beginning of the year, Business TASS reports citing data from the Central Bank of the South American Republic. Over October, this indicator grew by 5,1%, which is exactly three times more than in the same period last year.

                Since October 2012, prices in the country have increased by 54,3%, according to the Central Bank's monthly newsletter.

                At the end of October, the shortage of essential goods stopped at around 22,4%. In Venezuelan stores, there is a shortage of cornmeal, milk, butter, sugar and a number of other products. According to the Ministry of Agriculture, half of the food consumed by the country is purchased abroad.

        2. Shur
          Shur 18 February 2014 22: 47
          +2
          You plus for the colorful statement of the fact of the damage caused by the economic colonization of this country by the Americans. And you know the whole "civilized world" helps in every way, right? Interestingly, you perfectly describe the consequences and do not describe the root causes in any way .. And you stubbornly refuse to notice the influence of American interests and interference in the affairs of this country.
    2. papuasimus
      papuasimus 18 February 2014 10: 07
      +7
      I do not fully agree with the description of the situation.
      The high crime rate is a fact. Why tall? Where there is oil (including the shelf), drugs (ideal conditions for growing coca) there is always a pie sharing, a clash of interests (not without the participation of foreign "well-wishers"), etc., this is the first place.

      I almost forgot: my source is a good friend from the trade representative of the Russian Federation (specializing in Cuba, Argentina, Venezuela).
      Secondly, Venezuela is a multinational country, and there are enough ethnic clashes and trite household news.
      Thirdly, about fifteen years ago, Venezuela represented a backward country of the third grade, and today progress is evident. But, social security is still weak.
      And finally, Caracas is a strategic partner of Moscow, and this is a fact. We give them shelf development, weapons and loans, they give us airdromes of strategic missile carrier jumps, naval bases (including military ones) and a presence in the region. Remember how the States and henchmen were enraged when, when V. Putin and U. Chavez finally became friends?
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      2. atalef
        atalef 18 February 2014 11: 28
        -6
        Quote: papuasimus
        The high crime rate is a fact. Why tall? Where there is oil (including the shelf), drugs (ideal conditions for growing coca), there is always a pie sharing, a clash of interests (not without the participation of foreign "well-wishers"), etc., first of all

        Norway, Gulf Mills, Holland - You are not an example, I understand laughing
        Quote: papuasimus
        Secondly, Venezuela is a multinational country, and there are enough ethnic clashes and trite household news.

        Have a good laugh? How multi-ethnic is she?

        Quote: papuasimus
        Thirdly, about fifteen years ago, Venezuela represented a backward country of the third grade, and today progress is evident. But, social security is still weak

        The situation in Venezuela is no better than 15 years ago, by the way, why is the social system weak? It seems that the country of socialism and all oil revenues should go to it. Explain?
        Quote: papuasimus
        And finally, Caracas is a strategic partner of Moscow, and this is a fact. We give them shelf development, weapons, and loans, they give us airdromes of the strategic missile carrier’s jump,

        WHAT YES AND AGAINST WHO? What are the airfield jumps? As a result, Russia, as always, will be left without money, and which strategic partner - although exactly what the pop is - such is the arrival
        Quote: papuasimus
        Remember how the States and henchmen were enraged when when V. Putin and U. Chavez became friends

        Frantic? Tomorrow, the States will stop buying Venezuelan oil - and the piiits Venezuela.
        1. 222222
          222222 18 February 2014 12: 51
          +2
          atalef (3) IL Today, 11: 28 ↑
          "Furious? Tomorrow the States .."
          Who is preparing a terrorist attack against Israeli democracy?
          ("Haaretz", Israel)
          Editorial
          “The need for a referendum, which is intended to confirm the consent of citizens to the partition of Jerusalem and the withdrawal from the Golan Heights, has already been enshrined in the texts of other laws - for example, in the Basic Law on Jerusalem (2000). But the Knesset, apparently, is not sure about the Prime Minister. - the minister who repeats from every rostrum that there can be no question of dividing Jerusalem.Moreover, the wall of demands that the head of government erected before the Palestinians in the framework of the negotiation process (their recognition of Israel as a state of the Jewish nation; demand that the Jordan Valley remained under Israeli control, etc.) - guarantees that the peace process at one stage or another will be torpedoed. Why, then, did the legislators decide to pass an additional law that makes the negotiation process meaningless? "
          http://inosmi.ru/world/20140218/217629482.html
          .. the ubiquitous (or rather, everywhere popping ...) Yankees ... And why are the Yankees so ganged up against Israel?
          1. atalef
            atalef 18 February 2014 13: 12
            -1
            Quote: 222222
            the ubiquitous (or rather, everywhere shoving ...) Yankees ... And why are the Yankees so ganged up against Israel?

            Yes, it’s really strange, it seems, according to your logic, that already yesterday organized and nourished from behind a hill, thousands of Israelis should come out with slogans - Down with Netanyahu, etc. etc. . Strange - and why this is not. Probably pay a little laughing
            1. 222222
              222222 18 February 2014 14: 21
              +2
              atalef (3) IL Today, 13: 12 ↑ New
              "Probably they pay little .." .. very stingy .. shekels and agoras are pressing ...
              .. this is not my logic .. but the logic of the editor-in-chief of an Israeli newspaper .. editorial .. and who asks ordinary Israelis .. also, like us ...
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              2. atalef
                atalef 18 February 2014 14: 34
                0
                Quote: 222222
                this is not my logic .. but the logic of the chief editor of an Israeli newspaper .. editorial .. and who asks ordinary Israelis .. also, like us

                Haaretz is an ultra-left newspaper and expresses his own opinion. We have freedom of speech - everyone writes what he wants.
                Quote: 222222
                Why, then, did the legislators decide to pass an additional law that makes the negotiation process meaningless? "

                By the way, for some reason, the article did not mention that Mr was not adopted, or rather rejected at the inter-parliamentary commission and did not even reach the vote. Well, who bothers about these trifles. Yes ? laughing
                1. 222222
                  222222 18 February 2014 14: 39
                  +1
                  atalef (3) IL Today, 14: 34 ↑
                  "By the way, for some reason, the article did not mention that the zn was not adopted, or rather rejected at the inter-parliamentary commission and did not even reach the vote. Well, who bothers about these trifles. Yes"
                  of course, ..NO .. The main thing is to hang noodles on the VUHA readership .. Promise and not fulfill True, is it familiar and old ?? At Our ...
          2. atalef
            atalef 18 February 2014 13: 12
            0
            Quote: 222222
            the ubiquitous (or rather, everywhere shoving ...) Yankees ... And why are the Yankees so ganged up against Israel?

            Yes, it’s really strange, it seems, according to your logic, that already yesterday organized and nourished from behind a hill, thousands of Israelis should come out with slogans - Down with Netanyahu, etc. etc. . Strange - and why this is not. Probably pay a little laughing
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 18 February 2014 13: 22
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              Probably pay a little

              No it's you asking a lot laughing
            2. Sid.74
              Sid.74 18 February 2014 13: 27
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              Thousands of Israelis must come up with slogans - down with Netanyahu, etc. etc. . Strange - and why this is not.

              laughing ! You do not have any Shenderovich, so do not go out! winked

              And another interesting news! Jewish communities criticized the Olympic post Shenderovich!

              The head of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia, Alexander Boroda, criticized the post of Viktor Shenderovich, in which there was a parallel between Sochi-2014 and the Olympic Games in Berlin in 1936. Beard said that the post Shenderovich "radical" blockade of the survey on the TV channel "Rain", ITAR-TASS reported.

              Beard noted that in Nazism one cannot speculate and compare it with anything. “Shenderovich, in his own malice and resentment, is already using a very immoral and indecent reception,” he said, adding that the Olympics in Sochi is “the decoration of the country and the pride of the whole world.”

              Beard’s position was supported by Benny Briskin, Executive Director of the Russian Jewish Congress and Rabbi Zinovy ​​Kogan, Vice President of the Jewish Communities Congress. Briskin called Shenderovich’s statements a “red line”, noting that “in recent history it is hardly possible to find an analogy to the atrocities that the fascist regime brought.” "And it would be worth it for a Jew to know and remember this, like what army liberated the prisoners of Auschwitz camp: you need to bite your tongue," he added. Zinovy ​​Kogan believes that Shenderovich “lost his measure”, but the publication of the post was also the fault of the radio station Ekho Moskvy.
              Inf. completely here: http: //lenta.ru/news/2014/02/11/crit
              Shaw, this turns out to you that the UG is like Shenderovich and you don’t need it for free? Wow, the Jews are cunning! laughing
              1. Kazakhstan
                Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 38
                0
                Useful links

                Nikolai Starikov
                About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
                About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
                A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

                As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
                In great detail about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: SV Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Everyone MUST read: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
                What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
          3. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 18 February 2014 19: 25
            +1
            Quote: 222222
            And what are the Yankees so ganged up against Israel?

            Everything is simple here. USAA merged Mubarak, and allowed the Islamist Mursi to seize power and begin to redraw the Egyptian constitution in the manner of the Saudi Sharia. The Egyptians for the most part do not want to live under Sharia, As-Sisi overthrew Mursi and began to restore order in the country, the Yankees actively tried to block his oxygen, but Jerusalem rested his horn and blocked As-Sisi, forcing the Yankees to retreat to a neutral wait and confine themselves to weapons embargo. Now the Yankees have sent Kerry, the idiotic idiolist, to us in an attempt to draw our attention and strength to this attack, and thereby open up an unhindered path to the internal affairs of Egypt. request
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 18 February 2014 16: 03
        +4
        Quote: papuasimus
        The high crime rate is a fact. Why tall? Where there is oil (including the shelf), drugs (ideal conditions for growing coca) there is always a pie sharing, a clash of interests (not without the participation of foreign "well-wishers"), etc., this is the first place.

        In Norway, the USA, Russia, Saudi Arabia and many other countries, the crime rate is many times lower. They also have a lot of oil. In 1998, the number of murders, for example, was 4 times lower. 4500 per year. Venezuela overtakes Iraq in the number of killings.

        Quote: papuasimus
        Secondly, Venezuela is a multinational country, and there are enough ethnic clashes and trite household news.

        AND? That is, in your opinion, Russia being a more multinational country, or the States, should have already been cut out?

        Quote: papuasimus
        Thirdly, about fifteen years ago, Venezuela represented a backward country of the third grade, and today progress is evident. But, social security is still weak.

        What is the face? In the absence of toilet paper and a four-fold increase in homicide rates?


        Quote: papuasimus
        And finally, Caracas is a strategic partner of Moscow, and this is a fact. We give them shelf development, weapons and loans, they give us airdromes of strategic missile carrier jumps, naval bases (including military ones) and a presence in the region. Remember how the States and henchmen were enraged when, when V. Putin and U. Chavez finally became friends?


        Everything must be done in order to infuriate the States? This is usually expensive.
        However, this is not about that.

        It's about the real situation in Venezuela. Which needs to be more than soberly evaluated. Betting on the wrong horse too often goes sideways.

        There are pluses from working with Venezuela, and they are obvious. But we must not forget to take a sober look at the situation.
    3. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 18 February 2014 10: 25
      +9
      I am struck by clever people with the same calculations, one might think that before the reforms of Chavez, Venezuela flourished, that the people lived in abundance. That Chávez and his successor Maduro broke everything, broke it, and now Venezuela is mired in a swamp. That Chavez, that Maduro is simply trying to build a legal society, if I had been in its place a long time ago, I would have introduced an emergency, and, following the example of Stalin, put things in order in the country. It will not work otherwise.
      1. atalef
        atalef 18 February 2014 11: 31
        -7
        Quote: vladsolo56
        I am struck by clever people with the same calculations, one would think that before the reforms of Chavez, Venezuela flourished, that the people lived in abundance

        I am amazed by the wise men who claim that after 13 years of Chavez’s rule, the country began to live better. What did he give the country if nothing had changed in 13 years? Or the changes are just miserable

        Quote: vladsolo56
        That Chávez and his successor Maduro broke everything, broke it, and now Venezuela is mired in a swamp

        To the bottom. and then ? As old as the world
        Quote: vladsolo56
        if I were in his place, I would have long since introduced an emergency, and following the example of Stalin, I brought order to the country. It will not work otherwise.

        We will make people live well .... laughing
        1. vladsolo56
          vladsolo56 18 February 2014 12: 08
          +4
          Where does such information come from? how much housing was built for the poor, how many schools and hospitals were built, although of course this does not inspire you, if you were building palaces or yachts the size of a cruiser, then yes. Anyone can write any heresy, can you give an example that the opposition would build under the strict guidance of the United States? No matter how they fight poverty, crime, you are not even embarrassed that crime is many times more in those areas where the opposition is in power.
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          2. atalef
            atalef 18 February 2014 14: 02
            -1
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Where does such information come from? how much housing was built for the poor, how many schools and hospitals were built

            Quote: vladsolo56
            although of course it does not inspire you

            It’s all the same to me all the same, Venezuelans are apparently not very inspiring. I am not a participant in the events, I just comment on the events commensurate with the facts that I know and my point of view (by the way, just like you)
            Quote: vladsolo56
            if palaces were built or yachts the size of a cruiser, then yes

            But oddly enough, there is neither one nor the other
            Quote: vladsolo56
            . Anyone can write any heresy

            This applies to any of us (including you)
            Quote: vladsolo56
            can give an example that the opposition would build under the strict guidance of the United States

            It’s all the same to me who built what, why and why, and who didn’t get the piece of cake that was laid.
            I say one thing. Maduro won the election with difficulty, crime. inflation, popular discontent, a shortage of shops - all this after 13 years of the Bolivarian revolution and the movement towards socialism * (as social societies are generally similar)
            And who built what does not play a role. The task of the Venezuelan pr-v, so that the people would be satisfied and not climb the barricades, there are 2 ways to do this - to satisfy their needs and requirements or to shoot and squeeze into prisons - it seems Maduro is going to the second path
            Quote: vladsolo56
            No matter how they fight poverty, crime, you don’t even mind that crime is many times more in those areas where the opposition is in power

            Yes, I do not care what in the States and Somalia is even worse than in Venezuela. If we are talking about Venezuela, then what is the difference at what price cocaine is sold on the streets of New York. Do not be distracted, on the secondary - you lose the main thing.
            1. vladsolo56
              vladsolo56 18 February 2014 16: 08
              +3
              You do not care about this or that, but in this case it is not clear why to write. Do not care and do not care, pass by. Why do not I comment on topics that do not bother me? Because I'm only interested in what interests me. But then you are a strange person. The main thing is to dump a bucket of slop into anyone who builds or even promotes socialism. But then again, if you don’t care, then why. Many try without stopping that socialism is not viable, so then huge funds are allocated to fight it, they conduct daily anti-propaganda. Well, not viable and okay, he himself will die. However, they are afraid, afraid that they will survive and prove to everyone that capitalism is better and more effective. They are afraid and therefore wage war, a real war against all who even sympathize with socialism. Any words about alleged facts, a bluff built only on propaganda.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 18 February 2014 16: 20
                0
                Quote: vladsolo56
                Well, not viable and okay, he himself will die. However, they are afraid, afraid that they will survive and prove to everyone that capitalism is better and more effective. They are afraid and therefore wage war, a real war against all who even sympathize with socialism. Any words about alleged facts, a bluff built only on propaganda.

                So he dies. Inflation at 56 percent and a drop in production by 5,7, with increased crime rates.
                Bluff - are you arguing with the Central Bank of Venezuela? Or with the Ministry of Internal Affairs of this country? Maybe with Maduro?
              2. atalef
                atalef 18 February 2014 16: 29
                0
                Quote: vladsolo56
                You do not care about this or that, but in this case it is not clear why to write

                The lack of worries about Venezuela does not rob me of the right to a personal opinion about it
                Quote: vladsolo56
                Why do not I comment on topics that do not bother me?

                Because it is your own business. I comment - because it is my own business
                Quote: vladsolo56
                Because I'm only interested in what interests me.

                You are so
                Quote: vladsolo56
                But then you are a strange person

                Why not you?
                Quote: vladsolo56
                The main thing is to dump a bucket of slop in anyone who builds or even promotes socialism

                I am happy to clap your hands in any country where, under victorious socialism, people live with dignity and well-being. Give an example - I will rejoice with you
                Quote: vladsolo56
                Many try without stopping that socialism is not viable,

                Viable Pimer can
                Quote: vladsolo56
                so why then enormous funds are allocated to fight him, are daily anti-propaganda

                The old song of all the leaders and the lights of socialism - we would have succeeded. but war against us, fifth column, opposition.
                Quote: vladsolo56
                However, they are afraid, afraid that they will survive and prove to everyone that capitalism is better and more effective

                So let him prove even once
                Quote: vladsolo56
                Any words about alleged facts, a bluff built only on propaganda.

                Well, the facts in the studio
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    4. screw cutter
      screw cutter 18 February 2014 15: 04
      +2
      Now the whole crowd of cheers - patriots (forgetting to include a little holo) will start to yell that all this is inspected by the West and almost every enemy of Maduro receives directly money from the State Department.
      ______
      But isn’t that so? How long would Maidan last without injections? But without recharge from outside, this about ours (Latvian) lasts for a couple of hours, and a person for 100-200. Although there are more than enough discontent.
      Any riot is first of all the organizers and money, and the State Department is a great master on this issue. Remember where all the opposition run? Prally, to the US Embassy.
      1. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 41
        0
        Useful links

        Nikolai Starikov
        About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
        About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
        A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

        As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
        In great detail about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: SV Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Everyone MUST read: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
        What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
    5. Shur
      Shur 18 February 2014 22: 17
      +1
      It can also be added that, therefore, the "beacon" of the rights and freedoms of mankind assumes the secret and difficult role of a teacher and mentor of the lost people of Venezuela.
  5. Arbatov
    Arbatov 18 February 2014 09: 53
    +4
    Of course. this was to be expected, because the oil reserves in Venezuela are the largest in the Western Hemisphere and are inferior in explored volumes to only 5 Gulf countries.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2014 11: 35
      -4
      Quote: Arbatov
      Of course. this was to be expected, because the oil reserves in Venezuela are the largest in the Western Hemisphere and are inferior in explored volumes to only 5 Gulf countries

      Well, people live so shitty?
      Here the States seem to sit tightly in the Gulf countries and (as many say) practically manage them - but for some reason, the citizens of these countries live in full thresh? It seems to be something that does not fit.
      1. Luke
        Luke 19 February 2014 03: 02
        +1
        This is what the Gulf countries are superior to Venisuela in reserves? In addition to CA. Was that year in Dubai in March. Four locals raped the Norwegian. Who was planted? That's right, Norwegian. Since when she was raped she was drunk and there were no three witnesses of male Dubai. Only monarchies and only men live well in the bay. Where do you get nonsense about a good life? In dreams? By CNN?
        1. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 42
          0
          I completely agree.
    2. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 41
      0
      I completely agree.
  6. alone
    alone 18 February 2014 20: 56
    +1
    Quote: vladsolo56
    This was to be expected, I am surprised that what happened was too late, I thought it would all start much earlier.


    Nothing is late in the plans of the mattresses. The script was written long ago. They were waiting for the moment. The moment has come. Here and all the fuss.
  • zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga 18 February 2014 08: 30
    +6
    It is a pity Chavez is not alive, with him most likely this would not have come to that.
  • Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 18 February 2014 08: 36
    +6
    The time is ripe for a similar response in the axis of good countries. Let them test their strength.
  • mountain
    mountain 18 February 2014 08: 51
    +4
    Mom, Mia, the whole world is shaking and standing up to those who have taken care of a quality foundation, in advance.
  • polly
    polly 18 February 2014 09: 04
    +4
    The mutiny will be quickly crushed if " extremists will remain without foreign aid... "And here is the same buried dog: if not for foreign aid, then in many countries these outrages simply would not have begun. And now the most" peace-loving democrats "will not rust and the choice is great: from cookies , to Stinger. After all, they only need a reason to stick their dirty penny everywhere ...
  • FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 18 February 2014 09: 35
    +2
    So it’s certainly insulting that the people of such a rich country live so shitty; and probably they have reasons to be contented, but the fact of unrest is a puncture of the special services. If you do not want hemorrhoids with the population, you need to keep abreast and timely stop, and the riots eloquently speak about the unsuitability of their law enforcement officers.
    That's how we have more oil, gas and other nishtyaks than we can digest, but there are no parts of the people, almost 10% of the population are ill-disposed, health care is so-so, education is even worse, and there’s nothing to go on strike.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2014 09: 40
      -7
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      but the fact of the riots is a puncture of the special services


      And that the people are dissatisfied with the special services?
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      If you don’t want hemorrhoids with the population, you need to keep abreast and timely suppress, and the riots eloquently speak about the unsuitability of their law enforcement

      Inadequacy of power. Or do you think people have transplanted - you will squeeze the mouths of those who have nothing to eat and are afraid to go out on the street because of crime?

      Quote: Фкенщь13
      That's how we, oil, gas and other nishtyakov more than we can digest, and the people do not have parts, and nothing, do not go on strike

      So what ? From this every day live better
      There naive people still believe that something can be changed
      Somewhere, apparently, they no longer believe
      1. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX 18 February 2014 09: 55
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        And that the people are dissatisfied with the special services?

        Classics are: transplanting, and it’s better to recruit ideological inspirers, cut off funding, and the masses themselves will never go to an organized protest.
        Quote: atalef
        hold your mouth to those who have nothing to eat and scared to go out of the street due to crime
        Without organization, any political struggle very quickly slips into crime.
        Quote: atalef
        So what ? From this every day live better
        This indicates a more effective work of our law enforcement agencies. Do you know people in Russia who are worthy of opposition authorities? That's right, they are not, because they were leaked or fed in a timely manner. The people in the kitchens, of course, are very active in their civic position, but without leaders there can be no question of any protest.
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 February 2014 11: 45
          -2
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          Classic zhesh: transplant and it’s better to recruit ideological inspirers, cut off funding, and the masses themselves will never go to an organized protest

          Of course the classic is to outbid the leaders and let the people hawl. Just forgot a little bit (I forgot) Venezuela is generally a country of socialism (where is everything for the people) or what?
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          Without organization, any political struggle quickly slips into crime

          Strange conclusion. In general, a contented and happy citizen is somehow difficult to pull out to the barricades.
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          Do you know people in Russia who are worthy of opposition authorities? That's right, they are not, because they were leaked or fed in a timely manner.

          This adds to the pros and respect of both the authorities and the opposition. laughing
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          The people in the kitchens, of course, are very active in their civic position, but without leaders there can be no question of any protest.

          It’s strange. but I thought that everything was OK. It’s only opposition leaders who stir up the water, and the country’s stability.
          1. FunkschNNX
            FunkschNNX 18 February 2014 12: 41
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            It’s strange. and I thought everything was OK.
            There are always dissatisfied.
            Quote: atalef
            Strange conclusion.
            "Primorsk partisans", "maydanuts", etc. They have no leader, no clear goal or plan to achieve it, in the end they inevitably become ordinary criminals (looting, theft, robbery), an ordinary revolutionary needs to live on something. The future Bolsheviks, after all, also earned money with criminals until an organization with leaders appeared and only then sponsors were found.
            Quote: atalef
            Venezuela is generally a country of socialism (where is everything for the people) or what?
            The question is of course interesting. Despite the declared socialism, the people are not so many blessings. Of course, there is money (raw materials are for sale), somewhere they should be, but there was no prosperity either. There is only one conclusion - they steal.
            Surely they are not buzzing there out of the blue, but if their policemen worked well they would stop it in the bud. And if their officials worked well, then maybe there would be less dissatisfied. The analogies with the last decade of the Union are self-evident: dissatisfaction grew, power flipped the tabs instead of improving life on the one hand and punishing the instigators on the other. I suppose they will all end badly :-(
            1. atalef
              atalef 18 February 2014 14: 08
              -1
              Quote: Фкенщь13
              There are always dissatisfied.

              Of course, only their quantity has a role, then this quantity grows into a critical mass
              Quote: Фкенщь13
              The question is of course interesting. Despite the declared socialism, the people are not so many blessings

              belay Aw, where is the money Zin? Maybe that's why the people are somehow not happy?
              Quote: Фкенщь13
              There is only one conclusion - they steal.

              and feed freeloaders - and even fight with world imperialism (as always at the expense of their people). and then they begin to blame their own people, which are kind of sold to imperialists
              Quote: Фкенщь13
              And if their officials worked well, then maybe there would be less dissatisfied. Analogies with the last decade of the Union beg for themselves

              As always, the king is good - bad officials. Venezuelans are not so willing to buy this top
              Quote: Фкенщь13
              dissatisfaction grew, power flipped the tabla instead of improving life on the one hand and punishing the instigators on the other. I suppose they all will end badly

              I do not believe you did not even mention the State Department.
              Omission
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            3. Kazakhstan
              Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 44
              0
              I completely agree.
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      2. Firstvanguard
        Firstvanguard 18 February 2014 13: 51
        +3
        It’s not for you to judge how I live, that’s why I live better than I lived in the nineties, because the people are not so dark in their entire mass and they remember history a bit. And history gives a definite answer, everything, one more time ALL the past revolutions were initiated from the outside, and the dark masses of really outraged people who do not understand the essence of what is happening are used for this by a small group of initiators. Many are quite in their own selfish interests. This is the essence of the revolution. So we do not need to be "treated". I don't just believe, I know and see what is changing. I also see that the real rulers of the world, well, at least who consider themselves as such, are launching the same cartoon again, including through the mouth of people like you. Was there a bad social network in Libya? Didn't have any essential goods? Yes, the standard of living there was higher than in Russia outside of megacities, and much more. So what? Did this prevent you from initiating a revolution? Oh yes, there is oil there, by chance, too ... You respected lie openly and you yourself know very well about it, you cannot but know about the suppression of protests in the beautiful countries of the Gulf by force. About the fact that in the United States any citizen will think three times if he wants to be hit in the head with a truncheon before going to a picket. There it would never occur to anyone to arrange lawlessness as on the Maidan, because they know that in this case the police will open fire to kill, not with rubber bullets at all.
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 February 2014 14: 16
          -4
          Quote: Firstvanguard
          And history gives a definite answer, everything, once again ALL past revolutions are initiated from the outside

          Do you know the revolutionary situation? Read the classics - or were there deuces at school? The tops cannot rule in a new way - the lower classes do not want to live in the old way.
          In this formula, there is somehow no recharge from outside. Recharge from the outside can only be help, but not the main factor. Example - Che Guevara, who you clearly loved, crawled to Bolivia with grandmothers and armed detachments - he broke up for 3 months and was safely surrendered - not ripened and irresponsible lower classes (for whom he seemed to achieve a happy life) --- vile and vile heights to violence. laughing
          Quote: Firstvanguard
          Many are quite selfish. This is the essence of the revolution

          Socialist including
          Quote: Firstvanguard
          Was there a bad social in Libya? There were no essential goods? Yes, there the standard of living was higher than that of Russia outside the cities and much more. So what?

          That happiness is never always in money. Neither everything was beautiful there - otherwise the people (if you remember the hired operation was not there) would not have caught (left by their military forces Gaddafi) and would not have put a mop in his ass.
          Quote: Firstvanguard
          . The fact that in the US any citizen will think three times whether he wants to get a club on his head before going on a picket.

          Have you been to the USA? I have been more than once. Demonstrations (including the White House) saw a bunch of horseradish
          Quote: Firstvanguard
          that in this case, the police will open fire to defeat, not with rubber bullets at all.

          newspaper Really? What year?
          1. Firstvanguard
            Firstvanguard 22 February 2014 16: 15
            0
            Revolutionary situation do you know what it is?

            This is precisely the revolutionary situation that is being forced from the outside, with the help of traitors and traitors, then the crowd will do the job.
            Example - Explicitly loved by you Che Guevara

            What makes you think that I love Che Guevara ???
            That happiness is never always in money. Neither everything was beautiful there

            Everything is beautiful only in paradise. And the escalation of hysteria and the stuffing of ... onto the fan through social networks did their job. Further, provocateurs-mercenaries, fighter-mercenaries and the crowd do not understand the essence of what is happening.
            Have you been to the USA? I have been more than once. Demonstrations (including the White House) saw a bunch of horseradish

            At these demonstrations, paving stones were dismantled and thrown at the police, interspersed with a Molotov cocktail?
            newspaper Really? What year?

            "Occupy Wall Street" have not heard not?
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        3. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 45
          0
          Useful links

          Nikolai Starikov
          About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
          About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
          A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

          As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
          In great detail about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: SV Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Everyone MUST read: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
          What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
  • Arbatov
    Arbatov 18 February 2014 09: 40
    +5
    In addition to emotions, we have very decent contracts for the supply of weapons with this country. In our city, one very large plant will sit in Zh if the flashing of the North Americans described in the article succeeds.
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2014 09: 42
      -4
      Quote: Arbatov
      In addition to emotions, we have very decent arms supply contracts with this country.

      Guns instead of oil --- familiar.
      1. Arbatov
        Arbatov 18 February 2014 10: 05
        +6
        If the orders at the factory I mentioned do not fail, the oil will be eaten by his workers, along with their wives and children. And I am happy with the idea that a very decent number of people in my Russian city will have a job. And butter.
        1. Firstvanguard
          Firstvanguard 18 February 2014 13: 22
          +2
          This person is not interested in Russian cities, his interests in another state, but he pours out his civic (extremely active) position on the Russian resource. Moreover, in a very specific topic, in technical topics, it is not particularly visible, draw conclusions.
          1. atalef
            atalef 18 February 2014 14: 20
            -4
            Quote: Firstvanguard
            This person is not interested in Russian cities,

            Russian or Russian? Why, Russia is a great country, wonderful people, every 2-3 years I go to St. Petersburg to visit friends, they come to see me every year.
            Quote: Firstvanguard
            the position pours out on the Russian resource

            I speak Russian, and from birth. What to do about it?
            Quote: Firstvanguard
            Moreover, in a very specific topic, in technical topics it is not particularly visible, draw conclusions

            Well, in technology, you definitely didn’t stand next to me. Talk about energy? Stories ?
            Brilliant erudition - a couple. laughing
            1. Firstvanguard
              Firstvanguard 22 February 2014 16: 21
              0
              Russian or Russian?

              Verbiage.
              I speak Russian, and from birth. What to do about it?

              Do not speak English, Hebrew? Israeli Russian-speaking and not only mute resources?
              Well, in technology, you definitely did not stand next to me.

              Brave, but stupid. Not knowing who I am or what I’m doing.
              Talk about energy? Stories ?
              Brilliant erudition - a couple. laughing

              Sitting at a computer on the Internet, anonymously, without a time limit for an answer, with Google for a couple you can discuss on any topic.
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          3. Kazakhstan
            Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 46
            0
            I completely agree.
  • Burmistr
    Burmistr 18 February 2014 10: 13
    +4
    Maduro is ready to heed criticism from the moderate opposition: he intends to disarm the population, including volunteer squads that have defended the state.

    Thinks what he is doing?
    It would be high time to raise the issue at the UN about "popular" unrest initiated from abroad.
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    2. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2014 11: 48
      -1
      Quote: Burmeister
      Maduro is ready to heed criticism from the moderate opposition: he intends to disarm the population, including volunteer squads that have defended the state.

      Thinks what he is doing?
      It would be high time to raise the issue at the UN about "popular" unrest initiated from abroad.

      Just a second. and what kind of volunteer squads are (as I understand Maduro’s supporters). Well, what kind of beauty is this in the country of the Bolivarian revolution, what do you need to arm the national squads, and then do not know how to disarm them
      Quote: Burmeister
      It's time to raise the issue at the UN about "popular" unrest initiated from abroad

      It’s strange. just as in some country the authorities don’t know what to do with their own indignant people, the cries about sponsors from abroad immediately begin.
      1. SPLV
        SPLV 18 February 2014 13: 45
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        It’s strange. just as in some country the authorities don’t know what to do with their own indignant people, the cries about sponsors from abroad immediately begin.

        Oddly enough, but you're right. this is exactly what happens. Just in any place where the government cannot quickly solve ALL social problems, the figure of a good uncle immediately appears, ready to offer money and pursuing his goals. It has long been known who goes to the barricades in such situations: young people with an excess of testosterone, because those who need older families need to be fed, and nothing can be gained to eat and solder the strikers except to eat and drink. And ask yourself: who feeds this striking idle mob? If the situation in the country were so unbearable that there is nothing, then the government would be demolished in a week. Not a single revolution took place without an infusion of money. In this particular case, of course, The Greatest Democracy of All Times And Peoples Who Overcomes All Giving Light Under the Control of the Kind And Worst Uncle nothing to do with it.
        Only one "but". Fear the Danes who bring gifts.
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 February 2014 14: 28
          -4
          Quote: SPLV
          Not a single revolution took place without an infusion of money.

          Of course, nowhere without money. Therefore, there were Savva Morozov (Lenin's sponsor) and ex-Stalin. Money is needed and interested parties are always found to support this idea - often for their own selfish purposes.
          But how then to turn this revolution - this is a matter of leadership
          It’s not a secret to anyone that the October Revolution was largely done by German grandmothers
          Was it good or not?
          So ask a question. Chavez came to power with someone’s support or silver-free? Or all * clear boys * - make revolutions for free. and their c..ukins children --- paid offal.
          Pleased with the people, climbing on the barricades. the situation in the country is bad - you can scream as much as you want about the opposition paid, it can be easier to remove crime from the streets. raise health care, curb inflation - no, it's just that. why stupid on it --- it’s much harder to fight with the paid opposition --- leaving hostages of your own people
        2. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 48
          0
          I agree, this is the same as the Trojan Horse.
  • nikcris
    nikcris 18 February 2014 10: 25
    +4
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Arbatov
    In addition to emotions, we have very decent arms supply contracts with this country.

    Guns instead of oil --- familiar.

    kAGbe Israel, except for radishes, also does not hesitate to trade with something iron ... laughing
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2014 11: 54
      -5
      Quote: nikcris
      kAGbe Israel, except for radishes, also does not hesitate to trade with something iron ...

      By the way, the conversation was not about sales, but about purchases. Maduro would rather buy toilet paper, rather than weapons
      And in relation to Israel. we are selling and this, of course, in no way affects either our standard of living. not for medicine. nor on the purchasing power of the population.
      With oil, we would certainly be easier, but sorry. the only BV country without oil is us. Although if you look at Venezuela - and thank God.
    2. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2014 11: 54
      0
      Quote: nikcris
      kAGbe Israel, except for radishes, also does not hesitate to trade with something iron ...

      By the way, the conversation was not about sales, but about purchases. Maduro would rather buy toilet paper, rather than weapons
      And in relation to Israel. we are selling and this, of course, in no way affects either our standard of living. not for medicine. nor on the purchasing power of the population.
      With oil, we would certainly be easier, but sorry. the only BV country without oil is us. Although if you look at Venezuela - and thank God.
  • Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 18 February 2014 10: 30
    +4
    In Syria, Assad chewed snot with militants for a long time, trying to show the "world community" their gangster nature. As a result, gangs of militants managed to spread throughout the country. And if Maduro will lisp with these scumbags in the same way, then the Syrian drama will play out in Venezuela. Immediately under the fingernail any violation of the law, soak in the bud any inclination to terror. And most importantly, take control of the border with Colombia. If there is no such control, the militants will soon enter Caracas in tanks.
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    2. atalef
      atalef 18 February 2014 11: 57
      -3
      Quote: ICE
      As a result, gangs of militants managed to spread throughout the country. And if Maduro will talk like that with these scumbags in the same way, then a Syrian drama will be played in Venezuela

      In Venezuela, in general, thousands of foreign militants have not been noticed (and the country seems to be not Muslim) - do you mean talking with people?
    3. screw cutter
      screw cutter 18 February 2014 15: 09
      +2
      It is not for nothing that the American special services entered into a peace treaty with some drug clans from Colombia, they will now be required to supply militants.
      1. Shur
        Shur 18 February 2014 22: 52
        +1
        And Mr. Bout is sitting for the fact that the mustache citizens were killed innocently fighting on the territory of the drug lords.
        This whole discussion is reminiscent of the discussion of "Sharkhan" by "free dwellers of the jungle." in his absence, but with the support of the "jackal" ... on the issue of the fault of the "stupid monkeys" who are themselves to blame for becoming his dinner ..
        1. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 52
          0
          As according to Krylov in a conversation between a wolf and a lamb. "Your only fault is that I want to eat." Draw your own conclusions. wink
    4. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 50
      0
      I completely agree, delay in defeat is similar. In war as in war.
  • Takashi
    Takashi 18 February 2014 11: 03
    +1
    but it seems to me that everything that happens in Venezuela is not the intrigues of enemies "from outside." And the still unresolved economic problems that came from Chavez. If he tried to solve them, flirted with the people - arranging for them Chavez shops. That the current government can no longer cope. It was one thing they distributed toilet paper :) :)
    The movement will subside, because the people have not yet matured completely. When Day-M comes, the army itself will decide everything under the guise and without a booth.
  • polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 18 February 2014 12: 04
    +2
    If you are trying to build socialism, get rid of addiction - let’s read Comrade Stalin, everything is written in his writings, what and how to do the Opposition –– weeding the jungle and harming the heights ...
  • parus2nik
    parus2nik 18 February 2014 13: 49
    +2
    Maduro- not Yanukovych, knows what to do ...
  • Black
    Black 18 February 2014 14: 25
    +3
    Quote: atalef
    Now the whole crowd of cheers - patriots (forgetting to include a little holo) will start to yell that all this is inspected by the West and almost every enemy of Maduro receives directly money from the State Department.


    There is a crowd here, and on the "Maidan" - the people in orderly rows?
    Here, they scream stupidly, and there honest, decent and decent people who have no money ... in helmets they pray quietly.
  • -Patriot-
    -Patriot- 18 February 2014 15: 11
    +4
    Venezuela is our strategic partner, the better Maduro and his comrades feel, the better for us.
    1. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 14: 53
      0
      I completely agree. Comrades, no pasaran! angry
  • fimusito
    fimusito 18 February 2014 18: 42
    +2
    In Venezuela in November 2013, such lines were at the stores of the largest Daka chain. In countries with normal economies, this is only the case during the Christmas season.
    Venezuela has problems in absolutely all sectors: public debt is 70% of GDP, budget deficit is 13%, debt of the largest oil company Petróleos de Venezuela is more than $ 40 billion, oil production continues to decline, food imports doubled in 10 years and reached 75%, four thousand manufacturing enterprises closed, the number of employers decreased from 630 to 430 thousand.
    In 2013, the government for the fifth time devalued the national currency by 32,5% in order to cool inflation. But that didn’t work: the annual price increase was 54,3%.
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 18 February 2014 23: 21
      +2
      And in Italy or Greece, the public debt is no more than GDP? Can they hang themselves right away? Although there are no queues. Not yet?
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 19 February 2014 00: 25
        +2
        Quote: Riperbahn
        And in Italy or Greece, the public debt is no more than GDP? Can they hang themselves right away? Although there are no queues. Not yet?

        Greece and Italy do not have 5 world oil reserves
        1. Firstvanguard
          Firstvanguard 25 February 2014 20: 05
          0
          That is why color revolutions do not occur.
  • Skif
    Skif 19 February 2014 18: 42
    0
    And the script is ONE! "Arab Spring", Yugoslavia, Syria, Venezuela, Ukraine ... Is there really no forces in the world that the puppeteer of this "Uncle Sam" will shorten by the head ...
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 19 February 2014 22: 24
      0
      Not at the moment. Not yet grown pipiski :(