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In Germany, began to understand. "We are fighting in vain with the Olympics and the" pro-Russian Ukraine ", losing the sympathy of Russian"

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The other day on the site ECFR (European Council on Foreign Relations), the main European «think tank», an article entitled "The Olympic Games in Sochi - a missed opportunity for Europe."

The main idea of ​​the author is that the message is negative, the accusations and deliberate discredit of our Olympiad (it is even recognized that the photos of broken toilet bowls and streets in ruins were made in Austria, and not even in Sochi), which brought down on Russia The Western press, the public and officials, in the end, will not help to fight "Putinism", but on the contrary, they will even strengthen it. Because they actually confirm the idea that around Russia are not friends, but enemies. And that means - that Russia should be strong, independent, and it does not make sense for her to seek the friendship of "Western partners." Because they still try to humiliate and repel her whenever possible.

Amazing non-interference

Continuing this thought, we can add that история with Ukraine played the same role. The fact that talking about cooperation and dialogue in international politics is always only an interest is theoretically clear to everyone. But when the “war of interests” is suddenly declared not in some hypothetical Syria or Libya, but right at our borders, and not just completely brazenly and brazenly, but also accompanying it with some unprecedented hypocrisy about “non-interference in internal affairs "- you cease to believe in the goodwill of the" partners ".

A typical example is the new chairman of the Bundestag Foreign Policy Committee, CDU spokesman Norbert Röttgen, told 14 in February in an interview with Deutsche Welle: “Russia has definitely contributed to exacerbating the situation in Ukraine with its pressure when Kiev began to lean in favor of signing an association agreement with the EU. And in the current situation, in which Yanukovych is the biggest problem for Ukraine, for him and for those around him who are in power, the Russian government continues to support. ” At the same time, “No one has the right to influence Ukraine, guided by their own political interests. The European Union respects such principles, and Russia should do the same. The right to self-determination is inviolable. ” The correspondent asks the parliamentarian - but on Monday, February 17, Chancellor Angela Merkel will receive Vitaly Klitschko and Arseny Yatsenyuk in Berlin, does this mean that the German government is betting on them, supports Klitschko and Yatsenyuk? And no! “I think it is very important to emphasize that Germany does not interfere in the internal affairs of Ukraine and that there are no“ German candidates ”. This, by the way, would not do them good. At the same time, I think it is right that we are conducting a dialogue with the Ukrainian opposition and its two recognized representatives. (...) This is not an attempt to interfere in the internal affairs of Ukraine, but the German desire to help find a solution to the crisis in the country. ” As the main aphorist of Russian politics said, you are not here.

I must say that specifically, Germany is losing its image in the history of Ukraine in the eyes of the Russians much more than the United States. Americans have long had a reputation as an aggressive empire and the “world police number one”, and it doesn’t confuse them. All doctrines on the use of soft power are published officially, the work of American NGOs on the introduction of democracy and their own ideas about the future is on a large scale and absolutely open, cookies are distributed, aircraft carriers are being advanced. These people know what they want, and do not hesitate at all.

With Germany, everything is different. Although the leading role of Germany in the EU is now obvious, the role of an aggressor is completely unnecessary to the Germans for understandable historical reasons. They even try to refuse NATO’s direct participation in hostilities in military operations - one can recall the historic vote on the Libyan resolution of the UN Security Council No. XXUMX, when Germany abstained and did not vote in favor. By the way, in 1973, the Germans refused to participate in the military invasion of Iraq.

This does not mean at all that Germany is not interested in the maximum expansion of the area of ​​its influence. Of course, interested. But more economic. Although quite a significant part of German politicians and experts, not to mention the media, are busy criticizing Russia on the issue of notorious values ​​and human rights, in Germany there are enough of those who are interested in Russia as a profitable economic partner and who absolutely do not need to teach Russians they have to live (although become Russia more westernized - they will also be happy, because it will simply improve business perspectives). In Russia, as is known, there are not only trust in German quality and order, but also paradoxical sympathies with Germany, taking into account the historical context, as the VTsIOM polls show that Russians (as opposed to the United States) perceive the country as one of the most friendly Russia in the world.

Who and what woke ghosts

Alas, the situation in Ukraine can badly spoil the prerequisites of a normal neighborhood that has been going through a difficult time for some time now. It is likely that German NPOs in Ukraine were engaged in the propaganda of exclusively European values, tolerance and other things. And it was not at all that they trained racist militants, nurtured anti-Semites and contributed to the glorification of Nazi criminals. All have their own roles. Indeed, in the technology of "right-left" operations, the training of fascist scumbags by the main puppeteers is given to other institutions.

But in the eyes of ordinary people, citizens with slogans “Beat the Jews and Muscovites”, portraits of Bandera and Shukhevych and poems about the white race cause direct historical associations. And not with the Americans. And when Germany begins to be associated with the support of Ukrainian neo-Nazis, in the minds of both Russians and Ukrainians “beer, Volkswagen and football” instantly change into a portrait of an SS officer. Change with the appropriate emotions. Actually, the east of Ukraine “woke up” precisely because of this. It is difficult to raise someone with the slogan “Down with the Euro-Association” - after all, it’s really a matter of personal choice, well, someone who wants to go to Europe has the right. And to protect the current government there, too, hardly anyone pulls with all my heart - everyone has a lot of claims against it. But "Defend the homeland from the Nazis!" - This is a completely different slogan, if I may say so, energy intensity. It can be noted that on the “anti-Maidan” Ukrainian websites this is exactly how events are described - “the fascist attack on our administration is repelled,” various anti-fascist organizations are being created, and so on.

In one of the videos from Maidan, the Golden Eagle fighter says: “Moscow is behind us. I hope these words will be understood correctly. ” Do today's Brussels know what the words “We are Moscow” mean for any inhabitant of the post-Soviet space? Judging by the many actions of European officials, it is difficult to suspect them of a great historical education. But those who directed the revolution in Ukraine, they know. And they are well aware that by pulling out such skeletons from the tomb, you can create the necessary concentration of mutual hatred to start a civil war and split the country.

And against the background of this reincarnation of the image of the historical enemy, Germany continues to support the Ukrainian opposition, to invite its leaders to Berlin and to threaten with sanctions, going in line with the common European vector. Russian President’s Advisor Sergei Glazyev, speaking at a section of the Moscow Economic Forum devoted to Eurasian integration, noted that these efforts are “political psychosis”. “Such enormous efforts are being undertaken by the EU and the US to put pressure on the Ukrainian authorities to tear Ukraine away from our integration process, while all the calculations we are doing clearly show that this will be a disaster for Ukraine,” he said. “But they absolutely do not care, they ignore the economic positives that Ukraine receives from integration with us.” The political psychosis that the US and European authorities are experiencing today about Ukraine completely overrides common sense. Huge money is being spent to set up the Ukrainian political elite against Russia with monstrous negative economic consequences. ”

True, in Europe they can no longer turn a blind eye to the right-wing Ukrainian radicals. And they are not invited to Berlin. And even periodically urged to enter the legal field. And in general, it somehow turned out to be inconvenient when among the wards of the fighters for democracy there were guys with a swastika. Which, moreover, as it turned out, have claims not only to "Jews and Muscovites." But also to the Poles (which already excited Poland very much). And also offer to redraw the map of several more neighboring states. All this is somewhat different from the plan of peaceful democratization, which would be preferred by the Europeans. The EU's confusion for elder comrades from Washington could be the cause of the landmark Fuck the EU.

Affiliates without Westernization

It turns friends into enemies and frantic criticism of the Russian Olympics, which in the German media preceded its beginning. However, now the tone has changed. A few days ago an article was published in Spiegel Online “The Olympic Games in Sochi: one-sided gloating of the West”, where the author writes: “The dirt that spills over Sochi does not affect only Putin. It falls on all of Russia. (...) Russia no longer understands the world around it, and the reason is not in Russia. In Sochi is a big holiday. And we are like guests who drink soda all evening and gossip about the master's toilet: “Ha-ha, here the Russians have again disgraced themselves.”

14 of February in the newspaper Die Welt, former German Minister for Economy and Labor Wolfgang Clement and Director of the Eastern Institute in Wismar, Professor Andreas Steininger, spoke with deeper thoughts. In the article “A Chance to Reboot?” They write that while politicians and members of the German public in recent years have constantly criticized the human rights situation in Russia, German economic circles have complained that such criticism is harmful to trade relations. In turn, the Russian side "became increasingly self-confident and sometimes arrogant, thereby providing grounds for criticism from the West" (I wonder what other reactions did foreign colleagues expect in response to endless attacks?) Experts recognize that international problems cannot be solved today without the participation of Russia, and even more so in spite of it, and that for German business it is important that German politicians establish normal relations with Russia. But the most interesting and reasonable words in this article are different. Here they are: “In the end, the most important thing is, finally, to accept Russia as it is. It can not be changed from the outside. Therefore, attempts to constantly remind Russia of our own ideas about morality and democratic values ​​and impose them on it have no meaning. But at the same time, this should not be an obstacle to an open and reliable partnership with this country. ”

Strangely enough, the idea that attacks on Russia would only lead to its self-isolation and reversal to the East, which would only make the West worse, was already expressed by the main American “anti-Soviet” Zbigniew Brzezinski. In his book 3, a year ago, the book Strategic Vision. America and the crisis of global power. ”The author, who had previously not been shy of dreaming about dismembering Russia and calling it a“ black hole, ”calls on the West to be more active friends with Russia, making it part of the so-called“ Big West ”. Or rather, even the "Big North". “Russia should become a member of the Euro-Atlantic community. Russia is a European country and should be part of it. ”

However, unlike the above-mentioned German experts, in the Brzezinski version of Russia it is not proposed to accept as is. Only a westernized Russia can enter the Euro-Atlantic project. But the partnership that impresses German pragmatists, which Germany constantly offers Russia itself and Putin - without instructions, with what values ​​to whom to live - and the result could be increased cooperation between Russia and Germany, based on the desire of German business to make a profit by participating in modernization of Russia and exploring its markets - Brzezinski calls the direct threat to the concept of “Free and united Europe”, which is guarantor of the United States.

Apparently, “not pushing away” Russia, different players in the West want from a variety of reasons. But no matter how late it is. Indeed, unlike expert opinions, the anti-Russian media hysteria in connection with the Olympics and the way Europeans operate in Ukraine clearly and massively demonstrate completely different attitudes. When people see in their address disrespect, offensive teachings, blatant lies and gloating, and besides political behavior that evokes associations not only with cold, but with real war, it is not surprising that in the eyes of Russians the West will have everything more have the image of the enemy. And this is despite the fact that Russia has always been positive towards Europe, and even the most notorious Slavophiles never underestimated the role of Europe in world history, science and culture.

Today, Russia is not at all spoiling the historical chances for healthy cooperation. Russia, on the contrary, is perplexed. And European neighbors, and first of all Germany, should think about it - what do they want after all? And whether it will be in their interests - “in spite of my mother to freeze her ears” and for the sake of senseless anti-Russian rhetoric to deprive herself of the possibility of a profitable partnership with the eastern neighbor.
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  1. mirag2
    mirag2 18 February 2014 07: 07
    +23
    Ukraine, Maidan, persecution of Sochi, "greenpeace", the seizure of our ship, McFaul's departure - links of the same chain.
    The West is now looking for a new model that can do what dissidents did in Soviet times.
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 18 February 2014 08: 01
      +71
      About Germany, Ukraine, Russia, fascism and Sochi. And fiddling Putin! laughing

      1. adm656
        adm656 18 February 2014 13: 09
        +7
        super..right to the point good
      2. garlik
        garlik 18 February 2014 14: 00
        +9
        On the video of the meetings, surprisingly full-time vile faces of traitors-bastards
      3. 31231
        31231 18 February 2014 14: 55
        +10
        I would like this dodik who is holding a sign with the inscription "Peter with the Maidan", I would correct the sign and the scoreboard. On "Pi.der with the Maidan". And then they brought the disease to Russia "to speak for the whole people and for the cities of Russia."
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 18 February 2014 18: 28
          +14
          Quote: 31231
          I would like this dodik who is holding a sign with the inscription "Peter with the Maidan", I would correct the sign and the scoreboard. On "Pi.der with the Maidan". And then they brought the disease to Russia "to speak for the whole people and for the cities of Russia."

          Unfortunately, we also come across Yrody, the most offensive thing is that there are ideological ones. recourse
          And for the Germans -
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    3. Altona
      Altona 18 February 2014 08: 02
      +26
      Quote: mirag2
      Ukraine, Maidan, persecution of Sochi, "greenpeace", the seizure of our ship, McFaul's departure - links of the same chain.
      The West is now looking for a new model that can do what dissidents did in Soviet times.

      ------------------------
      I will add, the abuse of the memory of those who fell in the Second World War in the form of mocking ratings and polls ...
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 18 February 2014 09: 07
        +21
        The Nazis in Germany support the Nazis in Ukraine, I do not see anything surprising.
        1. washi
          washi 18 February 2014 13: 15
          -12%
          Quote: Igor39
          The Nazis in Germany support the Nazis in Ukraine, I do not see anything surprising.

          There were no fascists in Germany and Ukraine.
          There were national socialists, i.e. socialism is only for their own.
          1. Ermak
            Ermak 18 February 2014 20: 26
            +9
            Corrected, yes? )

            - Abram, what is this blanche under your eye?
            - Yes, can you imagine, Sema, yesterday we sat with the whole department of philology in a restaurant, relaxed calmly. All are intelligent people: And here came the husband of Alla Vasilievna - a former military man - and got into a conversation:
            He says: "I had one x in the company ...".
            I, of course, corrected: "Not in the company, but in the mouth" ...
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          4. JIaIIoTb
            JIaIIoTb 18 February 2014 21: 42
            +1
            Eh Vasya, Vasya .....
    4. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 18 February 2014 09: 14
      +3
      Now think, who is Germany along the way with? I won’t tell you.
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 18 February 2014 10: 16
        +2
        You have formulated the question incorrectly, not with Germany along the way, but with Germany along the way. Germany is starting to build its Internet network, the fourth Reich is being slowly built.
        Germany has its own way. Or do you think that there is no master in the EU?
        1. 3935333
          3935333 18 February 2014 15: 25
          +4
          there is! and tanks recently sailed there!
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 18 February 2014 15: 56
            +1
            Quote: 3935333
            there is! and tanks recently sailed there!

            Exactly, it is not Germany that hosts it?
        2. Reasonable, 2,3
          Reasonable, 2,3 19 February 2014 13: 59
          0
          We are the owners, and without us, there, they won’t solve anything. And we have a lot of leverage. We don’t have to think that it’s only gas.
      2. demel2
        demel2 18 February 2014 12: 43
        +5
        Yes, spit with whom the Germans along the way, the most important thing is who is with us, who will go our way.
      3. washi
        washi 18 February 2014 13: 20
        0
        Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
        Now think, who is Germany along the way with? I won’t tell you.

        Who has their finances and who still occupy them.
        A step to the left, to the right, a jump in place is an attempt to escape.
        Fine. Angelica will give them more.
        And our emigrants will help (I hope)
        1. Yurban
          Yurban 19 February 2014 01: 57
          +1
          And who will they help, Vasya? And what are you hoping for? Although you may be right, many have become ha-grandchildren in Germany, and Angela began to chase, literally half a year ago, I don’t know what caused it, but I’ll probably see it.
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    6. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 18 February 2014 11: 45
      +10
      I wish you all good health! Yesterday, on the Internet, I came across a biographical film about the Klitschko brothers. Until recently, I respected these guys as great athletes! But now, when you look at all these events taking place in my Homeland-Ukraine with the participation of Vitali Klitschko and Vladimir, who supports him, the very respect fell below the plinth !!! request No.

      And my opinion remains unnamed, if you are an athlete in big and professional sports, you have nothing to get into big politics.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 18 February 2014 23: 24
        0
        Quote: LaGlobal
        And my opinion remains unnamed, if you are an athlete in big and professional sports, you have nothing to get into big politics.


        Well, why? If the head has not been subjected to periodic collisions with foreign objects, then it is possible in politics.
    7. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 18 February 2014 12: 29
      +5
      In Germany, they began to understand .... in 1945 they began to understand ... but to the point ???
      1. washi
        washi 18 February 2014 13: 24
        +2
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        In Germany, they began to understand .... in 1945 they began to understand ... but to the point ???

        The news slipped that the Germans noted the bombing of Dresden.
        Then they will recall their missing Anglo-Saxon camps.
        The Poles have already been reminded of their deportation.
        What will happen next?
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 18 February 2014 13: 51
          +1
          Quote: Vasya
          What will happen next?

          if someone is dissatisfied with the results of the 2nd World War, then we can show them ...

          this also applies to Germany ...
          1. infinite silence ...
            infinite silence ... 18 February 2014 17: 21
            +1
            can show ...


            Fighting for peace is the same as fighting for virginity ... Is there really no reason for peace to settle the problem peacefully?
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 18 February 2014 19: 22
              +1
              Quote: infinite silence ...
              Fighting for peace is the same as fighting for virginity ... Is there really no reason for peace to settle the problem peacefully?

              here go and peacefully settle your maydaun ...

              and give advice to the elders on the bad manners ...
              1. infinite silence ...
                infinite silence ... 18 February 2014 23: 03
                +1
                This was not advice ... But the desire of the majority of the Ukrainian people ... Only it, as practice shows, does not find a response either in private conversations or among the ruling circles ... Everyone wants to wave a saber.
            2. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 18 February 2014 22: 03
              0
              We do not need war! We need peace! Desirable all!
  2. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 18 February 2014 07: 09
    +9
    The role of the television picture is amazing: when you see the vandals who were maidan, there is something positive about Russia - the Olympics and our nobility for German athletes, how the attitude towards Russia and Ukraine began to change.
    1. Denis
      Denis 18 February 2014 07: 14
      +34
      Quote: FC Skif
      The role of the TV picture is amazing: it was worth seeing the maidanut vandals
    2. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 18 February 2014 07: 42
      +9
      Lenin pointed out the strength of the influence of the media on the masses, and believed that they, these MASS MEDIA should be in the hands of the STATE, and in Russia, not only are they in private hands, and financed from abroad, they serve their "benefactors" whose purpose is to carry out subversive activities within the country, influencing the minds of people.
  3. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 18 February 2014 07: 11
    +18
    It reminds me of Stalingrad. what It seems that they will reach the end when once again the flag over the Reichstag unconditional surrender and field kitchen in the Berlin courtyard wassat
    1. Kazakh
      Kazakh 18 February 2014 07: 56
      +15
      It seems that they will reach the end when once again the flag over the Reichstag unconditional surrender and field kitchen in the Berlin courtyard wassat
      Let me disagree ordinary people in Germany are very good at treating Russians, and just like we don't like, I don't like the United States, but at the government level the picture changes. At least when I lived there I only saw a good attitude towards myself and not only from our Germans
      1. ultra
        ultra 18 February 2014 10: 18
        +12
        Quote: Kazakh
        but at the government level, the picture is changing.

        And what is surprising, Germany has been an occupied territory since the end of WWII, and continues to remain so, with all that it implies! A country with limited sovereignty and, as a result, the absence of an independent foreign policy! hi
        1. fennekRUS
          fennekRUS 18 February 2014 12: 35
          +4
          but you must admit, the GERMANY-RUSSIA-CHINA alliance has non-acidic geopolitical prospects. just do not let such a build
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      3. tank64rus
        tank64rus 18 February 2014 11: 03
        +9
        It has long been known that the United States and Germany are bound by secret agreements under which the German Chancellor is subordinate to the United States, which he confirms upon assuming office. In the GDR, independence was more than an order of magnitude. They understood this, but it was too late. Do not forget where the gold reserve of Germany is in the USA. This is a semi-occupation and it is a fact. You can absolutely everything, even fagots in the ministers, but on sacred, on the US government is a taboo.
      4. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 18 February 2014 14: 57
        +2
        Quote: Kazakh
        It reminds me of Stalingrad.

        And for me the "drain" of Czechoslovakia and the Munich agreement ...
    2. Altona
      Altona 18 February 2014 08: 04
      +10
      Quote: Ruslan67
      flag over the Reichstag unconditional surrender and field kitchen in the Berlin courtyard

      -----------------------
      No, there are our flags, and so it is ... Over the Capitol and over Big Ben it is necessary ...
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    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 February 2014 08: 33
      +23
      Quote: Ruslan67
      It seems that they will reach the end when once again the flag over the Reichstag unconditional surrender and field kitchen in the Berlin courtyard

      Ruslan, what should we do there a second time? Now this banner will hang over the Reichstag, and sheep will be cut in the streets.
      1. ale-x
        ale-x 18 February 2014 09: 49
        +8
        Rams should I quote?
      2. demel2
        demel2 18 February 2014 13: 05
        -2
        They will only be cutting there, but we are already cutting in Moscow.
        1. washi
          washi 18 February 2014 13: 28
          +3
          Quote: demel2
          They will only be cutting there, but we are already cutting in Moscow.

          These are the problems of Muscovites.
          They go to the Swamp.
          And here is Russia?
          If Muscovites are bad, then this does not mean that the rest are the same.
          They earned their own and in 91 and 93 - m.
          ALL of the country hates them.
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 18 February 2014 13: 54
            -4
            Quote: Vasya
            If Muscovites are bad, then this does not mean that the rest are the same.

            eccentric with the letter "m"
        2. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 18 February 2014 13: 54
          +1
          Quote: demel2
          and we are already cutting in Moscow.

          banned already cut 3 years like ...
          1. shuhartred
            shuhartred 19 February 2014 13: 18
            0
            Quote: DanaF1
            banned already cut 3 years like ...

            Drinking while driving was also banned.
      3. arane
        arane 18 February 2014 22: 56
        +1
        Read. This is a genius for the situation.
        http://ilibrary.ru/text/1233/p.1/index.html
  4. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 18 February 2014 07: 18
    +8
    In one of the videos from the Maidan, a golden eagle fighter says: “Moscow is behind us. I hope these words of mine will be understood correctly. ”

    And so it is in that very sense.

    Good article, read it yesterday at the source. The author is a well-deserved plus.
    I just want to note that the problem is not only and not so much that there are not enough sober pragmatists in the West, but that they are lacking in the shadow government, which dictates from where to whom and how to live. Rather, these people also have pragmatism, but it is extremely aggressive and works only for a small handful of people who will soon devour themselves, as a product of the system that they have created. Something like ours, post-Soviet pop pop music, which in the 90s was "people in all hawala", and now only their friends go to their concerts. Everything is exactly the same, the system eats up itself and those who gave birth to it.
    In general, people already have difficulty or no longer haw all this noodles.

    ZY
    I draw such analogies, since I myself am not a politician, but in the past a sound engineer with great experience.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 18 February 2014 07: 56
      +9
      I didn’t harass pop music, I couldn’t endure organically their appearance, manner of performance, lyrics and melodies. It is not for nothing that Zadornov calls names in pop music an imitation of state activity.
  5. parus2nik
    parus2nik 18 February 2014 07: 31
    +4
    In Germany, they began to understand. ... But still not quite ....
    1. smel
      smel 18 February 2014 07: 45
      +13
      They will begin to understand when they are directly affected by the problem. Or again the flag over the Reichstag. Although no ... in the 19 century, she studied French in Russia. This sadly ended for Paris. 20 is German. But in 21, English. What is it for???
      1. Tiamat2702
        Tiamat2702 18 February 2014 12: 24
        +1
        Quote: smel
        ... in the 19th century, she studied French. This sadly ended for Paris. In the 20th, German. But in the 21st English. What is it for???

        ))) An interesting observation.
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    2. demel2
      demel2 18 February 2014 13: 14
      0
      Quote: parus2nik
      Germany began to understand

      They started to understand that. Only the owner will swear a lot. IMHO, these Europeans do not have their own opinions and actually have no politics. The whole leadership is in Washington. Therefore, ordinary Germans, as described above, are nice to Russians, and the leadership is ordered to blame Russia. IMHO
  6. Bort radist
    Bort radist 18 February 2014 07: 42
    +27
    Mohamid Ali (Cassius Clay) 1960 Light Heavyweight Champion. From 1961 he turned into a professional. The absolute world champion since 1964, 9 times defended the title. In 1968, he was stripped of his title for refusing to fight in Vietnam. In 1974 he became the second heavyweight in the history of professional boxing, who managed to regain the title of absolute world champion. In January 1978 he lost the title, in September 1978 he managed to return it and became the first in the history of prof. Boxing heavyweight, who managed for the third time to regain the title of absolute world champion. He refused to serve in Vietnam, saying that this war is not fair. Sanctions followed - the court sentenced Ali to the maximum sentence: five years in prison, and also a fine of $ 10 thousand. In addition, his sports career was also frozen: he was deprived of the world title, and the athletic commissions of the American states deprived him of a license for one fights in their territories. Also, his passport was taken away, which means that, as is customary in the USA, he was deprived of the opportunity to legally leave the country. All these three and a half years of excommunication from boxing, Ali's lawyers filed appeals one after another against the original court decision. The right to light the Olympic flame in Atlanta was a kind of apology for the US government to Mohamed.
    PS Klitschko will never light the Olympic flame!
  7. old rocket man
    old rocket man 18 February 2014 07: 51
    +19
    Plus an article that testifies that there are adequate, sane figures in the West, Henry Kissinger recently spoke in about the same vein, urging the US leadership to finally come to their senses and understand that "by turning Russia into a besieged fortress, we are forcing it to show everything what she can do. "
    And we are capable of much that neither Europe nor America is ready for and will not be happy about. am
    1. tasey
      tasey 19 February 2014 12: 22
      0
      Support (SS-20 Saber, SS-25 Sickle, 1972-1992)
  8. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 18 February 2014 07: 54
    +5
    from the Don.
    Germany is the navel of the earth? Are stupid? We can remind !!!
  9. morpogr
    morpogr 18 February 2014 07: 55
    +16
    How else do Germans need to be humiliated by Americans. The Chancellor is eavesdropped, sent to, how to behave. You must wake up already stupidly pitting you with Russia, live your own mind.
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 18 February 2014 08: 29
      +4
      you stupidly pits with Russia
      As before 1st and 2nd MV sad The Germans are programmers and will figure out who to be friends with. By the way, it’s good that We have such a lobby there in the form of business partners, they will tell you how to behave with Us smile
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 18 February 2014 10: 16
        +1
        Something and in front of the 1st and 2nd MVs they sucked out shitty!
        1. Horst78
          Horst78 18 February 2014 10: 24
          0
          Quote: alex-s
          Something and in front of the 1st and 2nd MVs they sucked out shitty!

          The mind was clouded. We, before the 1st, were also not very helpful and let ourselves drag in.
          1. alex-s
            alex-s 18 February 2014 11: 05
            0
            God grant that now the mind is enlightened!
        2. Tiamat2702
          Tiamat2702 18 February 2014 12: 30
          0
          Quote: alex-s
          Something and in front of the 1st and 2nd MVs they sucked out shitty!

          If I am not mistaken, before the first World War, Russia "badly figured out who to be friends with", it was Russia who joined the Entente. And Germany had nothing against Us, since Bismarck's legends were still fresh that it was not worth fighting the Russians. ))))
        3. Tiamat2702
          Tiamat2702 18 February 2014 12: 30
          +1
          Quote: alex-s
          Something and in front of the 1st and 2nd MVs they sucked out shitty!

          If I am not mistaken, before the first World War, Russia "badly figured out who to be friends with", it was Russia who joined the Entente. And Germany had nothing against Us, because Bismarck's legends were still fresh that it was not worth fighting with Russia. ))))
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 18 February 2014 12: 44
            0
            Quote: Tiamat2702
            If I am not mistaken, before the first World War, Russia "badly figured out who to be friends with", it was Russia who joined the Entente. And Germany had nothing against Us, because Bismarck's legends were still fresh that it was not worth fighting with Russia. ))))

            Yes, the whole Romanov era passed in this vein, pro-Saxon. Unfavorable for Russia war with Germany and Turkey.
    2. 123321
      123321 18 February 2014 14: 41
      -1
      Apparently the Angel is held tight by Merkel striped (they are also a colony, only the status is higher than ours).
    3. 123321
      123321 18 February 2014 14: 41
      0
      Apparently the Angel is held tight by Merkel striped (they are also a colony, only the status is higher than ours).
  10. groin
    groin 18 February 2014 08: 07
    +9
    History repeats itself. Dear Germans, take out the instructions of your famous Chancellor and reread it carefully. As you "broke off", you will continue to "break off" on Russia.
    It is better to be honest and IMPORTANT; do not consider kindness and nobility for weakness.
  11. Neophyte
    Neophyte 18 February 2014 08: 15
    +6
    We don’t really believe that Germany is friendly to us.
    leadership in the EU, Germany has pursued and is pursuing a policy of bullying Russia.
    Her subservient satellites, such as Poland and others, would mock
    Olympics and provoke unrest in Ukraine?
    I remember that at the Olympics in Sochi, the Germans lost their skiing equipment: ours helped, and in the West they were laughing at the Russians in the press.
    I do not believe the Germans, 2 world wars on their conscience!
    And the statements of some German analysts about Russia as a country
    partner, happened only when from overseas sounded: Fuck the EU!
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 18 February 2014 11: 17
      +1
      Quote: Neophyte
      I do not believe the Germans, 2 world wars on their conscience!

      The Americans brought Hitler to power, the Americans restored German industry, the Americans unleashed World War II. The Germans were held hostage in their own country, just as the Ukrainians are now.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 18 February 2014 15: 02
        +2
        Quote: Setrac
        The Germans were held hostage in their own country, just as the Ukrainians are now.

        So what? ....
        Pity those in frenzy did he throw up his hand to shout "Heil!", and those who today are throwing up their saliva with the cry "Salo for Ukraine"?
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 18 February 2014 15: 58
          +1
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          So what? ....
          To pity those who, in a frenzy, threw up their hands to shout "Heil!"

          You don’t think about what to regret right away? You need to understand that the enemy is the United States, and Germany (as well as Japan) is its puppet, but the puppeteer may change at the puppet.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 18 February 2014 18: 14
            +2
            Quote: Setrac
            You need to understand that the enemy is the United States, and Germany (as well as Japan) is its puppet, but the puppeteer may change at the puppet.

            Reasonably ...
            Surprisingly, "longevity" and sufficient success of both one and the other.
          2. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 19 February 2014 09: 44
            0
            Quote: Setrac
            You need to understand that the enemy is the United States, and Germany (as well as Japan) is its puppet, but the puppeteer may change at the puppet.

            then it turns out. that the United States has been puppet-mastering in Germany for 100 (STO) years - 1 MV was unleashed by the bloc of the Central European Powers - Germany, Austria-Hungary, Turkey, that the United States has been puppet everywhere and these "poor things" do not have their own will and their policies? and they do not seek to change the puppeteer. Compared to the Americans, the Germans have some respect - they go to war themselves, and do not hide behind the backs of their satellites.
      2. Sour
        Sour 18 February 2014 15: 21
        -3
        Quote: Setrac
        Americans unleashed the Second World War.

        How did the Americans "unleash World War II"?
        You can feel any feelings for the Americans, it is your right. But why lie? Lies do not decorate anyone.
        Quote: Setrac
        Americans brought Hitler to power

        And this is explained, if not difficult. Which of the Americans specifically brought Hitler to power? How was this done?
        Quote: Setrac
        Americans restored German industry

        They restored our industry. Business is business. GAZ would not have been built without the Americans; there were their technologies, their equipment, and their specialists. And not only GAZ, but also AMO-ZIL, too, and YaAZ, and ChTZ. The first Soviet tractors and tractors were clones of American models.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 18 February 2014 16: 02
          +4
          Quote: Sour
          How did the Americans "unleash World War II"?

          Arming Japan and Germany. Against the USSR and Britain.

          Quote: Sour
          And this is explained, if not difficult. Which of the Americans specifically brought Hitler to power?

          Money, agents of influence, economic pressure. Just like this happens in our time. How anti-Russian governments came to power in Eastern Europe.
          Quote: Sour
          They restored our industry.

          WE bought everything for a loud coin, for gold, unlike Germany and Japan.
          1. Sour
            Sour 18 February 2014 16: 42
            -1
            Quote: Setrac
            Arming Japan and Germany. Against the USSR and Britain.

            Of course, not a single proof, because there is none. Only idle chatter. Until 1939, the United States did not properly arm itself, having an army of 185 thousand and one tank division of four battalions. The US began exporting weapons in 1940, when Congress amended the "Neutrality Act" to prohibit such exports. You don't know anything. You have a tendency to smear the Nazis and blame everything on America.
            Quote: Setrac
            Money, agents of influence, economic pressure.

            I asked specifically to name those who were engaged in it. No general phrases needed. I will name the Germans who are most involved in Hitler's rise to power. Of the oligarchs, these are Siemens, Krupp, von Renteln, Borzig, Junkers. From politicians von Hindenburg, von Papen, Hugenberg, von Schleicher. As you can see, I am not unfounded. And now I’ll ask you to name the Americans involved in Hitler’s coming to power. Only without common phrases and your fantasies, specifically.
            Quote: Setrac
            unlike Germany and Japan

            What are you saying ????
            Where did you study history? According to Rezun? Or another nonsense?
            The Americans did not supply weapons to anyone until 1940. If you are not up to date, then these are your problems. They did not deliver it to the Germans and Japanese until 1945. Automotive technology was supplied for money, not on credit. As in the USSR. By 1940, the Germans had almost exhausted their gold reserves, were 17 times less than the Dutch and 340 times less than the American, despite the assignment of gold to Austria and Czechoslovakia.
            You do not know the story at all. Or deliberately lying. The first is excusable. The second is a grave sin.
            Who have you read? What nonsense? Or have you invented everything yourself?
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 18 February 2014 16: 55
              +3
              Quote: Sour
              The Americans did not supply weapons to anyone until 1940.

              This is not about armaments, but about industry, which later produced these same armaments. Actually, this answer is NOT ALL of your post.
              1. Sour
                Sour 18 February 2014 17: 04
                -5
                Once again - give the facts.
                Surnames of those Americans who were involved in the Nazis' rise to power. And involved in the outbreak of war.
                You will not name anything. Because you know nothing. You do not know the story at all, it’s completely replaced by your own fantasies. So it’s more convenient for you. But be careful. The next time, when you feel like lying again on the Internet, keep in mind - you can run into a competent person. And he will put you in place.
                Sorry, I'm tired of wasting time communicating with someone who does not support the words with facts, but only with their own speculations. I’d better go see the hockey. Learn the story. And remember - lying is not good.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 18 February 2014 17: 14
                  +7
                  Quote: Sour
                  Surnames of those Americans who were involved in the Nazis' rise to power.

                  After World War I, Germany paid reparations, for this the USA gave it loans and although formally loans were issued to ensure payments, it was actually about restoring the country's military-industrial potential. The fact is that the Germans paid for loans with shares of enterprises, so that American capital began to actively integrate into the German economy. The total amount of foreign investment in German industry for 1924-1929. amounted to almost 63 billion gold marks (30 billion accounted for loans), and reparations - 10 billion marks. 70% of financial income was provided by US bankers, most of them by J.P. Morgan banks.


                  IG Farbenindustry, the main supplier of the German military machine, which financed Hitler's campaign for 45% in 1930, was under the control of Rockefeller's Standard Oil. The Morgan, through General Electric, controlled the German radio and electrical engineering industry represented by AEG and Siemens (by 1933, 30% of the shares of AEG belonged to General Electric), through the ITT communications company, 40% of the German telephone network, besides owned 30% of the shares of the aircraft company "Focke-Wulf". Opel was controlled by General Motors, which belonged to the Du Pont family. Henry Ford controlled 100% of the shares of the Volkswagen concern. In 1926, with the participation of the Rockefeller bank "Dillon Reed and Co.", the second largest industrial monopoly of Germany after IG Farbenindustri arose - the metallurgical concern "Fereinigte Stahlwerke" (Steel Trust) of Thyssen, Flick, Wolf and Fegler and others.
                  American cooperation with the German military-industrial complex was so intense and pervasive that by 1933 key branches of German industry and such large banks as Deutsche Bank, Dresdner Bank, Donat Bank and dr.
                  At the same time, that political force was being prepared, which was called upon to play a decisive role in the implementation of the Anglo-American plans. It is about financing the Nazi party and personally A. Hitler.
                  As former Chancellor of Germany Brüning wrote in his memoirs, starting in 1923, Hitler received large sums from abroad. Where they came from is unknown, but came through Swiss and Swedish banks.
                  More details: http://globalconflict.ru/analytics/4020-ssha-glavnyj-sponsor-gitlera

                  This is open information and there is a lot of it on the network, and if you were not so pro-American, anti-Russian you would have found all this yourself and even more.
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 18 February 2014 17: 32
                    +3
                    Au Sour, where are you? A lover of rezun and Americans. Flattened under the weight of arguments?

                    Thus, we see that the efforts of Western media, official historians, and politicians from the history of the Second World War and its background were cut many interesting pages. Jews financed the creation of the Third Reich, personally Hitler, were in the leadership of Germany, participated in the "solution" of the Jewish question, the destruction of their fellow tribesmen, fought in the German armed forces. And after the collapse of the Reich, the German people were blamed for the genocide of the Jewish people and forced to pay indemnity. Until now, Germany and the Germans are considered the main culprits of inciting the Second World War, although the organizers of this massacre remained unpunished.

                    http://topwar.ru/9693-evrei-i-sozdanie-tretego-reyha.html
                    Everything was already understood on this resource.
            2. Homo
              Homo 19 February 2014 04: 37
              0
              Quote: Sour
              Of course, not a single evidence, because there is none. Only idle chatter.

              http://aftershock.su/?q=node/34278
  12. siberalt
    siberalt 18 February 2014 08: 15
    +4
    In Europe, not just psychosis, but hysteria in a degree of fever. A complete detachment from reality, to the exposure of stinking nature, to the disclosure of the true misanthropic essence. And this pack of jackals yapping to vomit came across a wall of prudent and cold ignoring. All matches burned? What's next? Oh, and not let Russia into Euro-Atlantic society. So Putin suggested this at the turn of the century. Moreover, he also suggested joining NATO. So Brzezik is far from an innovator. Russia and without the Atlantic are washed by two oceans. Of course, the United States and England will not tolerate the strengthening of relations between Russia and Germany. In fact, Germany organized the fourth Reich, which will turn out time will tell. Although the withdrawal from the influence of the United States has been outlined and becomes obvious. And then Russia takes markets east. Another concern is to quarrel us with China. In general, solid problems.
    1. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 18 February 2014 12: 45
      0
      psychosis, first of all, in Ilita ... everything is real, it's time to change the "head" in many states. as allies, the Germans are much better than the British and Asians. IMHO
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  14. Intensive
    Intensive 18 February 2014 08: 18
    +4
    May they not seek the benefits of a relationship with us. This is just an external side or tactical task. The main strategic goal is full control over the territory, people. Therefore, they (i.e. Germany, America, etc., the West in general) are ready to make any financial, political or other losses at key historical moments. Now is the key. I’m not sure that the same Yanukovych, behaving so passively, is not an actor of the same theater.
  15. Hs487
    Hs487 18 February 2014 08: 35
    +8
    "they ignore the economic positives that Ukraine gets from integration with us. The political psychosis that the US and EU authorities are experiencing about Ukraine today completely overrides common sense. Huge amounts of money are spent to turn the Ukrainian political elite against Russia with monstrous negative economic consequences. "

    Sergei Yuryevich is an official and, unfortunately, cannot call a spade a spade. The West does not just ignore the benefits that Russia and Ukraine are gaining from closer cooperation - it is aware of them and is doing everything to prevent this.
    This is not psychosis, this is an accurate cold calculation, aimed at preventing Greater Russia from gathering and becoming strong.
  16. ikken
    ikken 18 February 2014 08: 38
    +14
    Russia, on the contrary, is perplexed.


    "Russia is reproached for being isolated and silent in the face of such facts, which do not harmonize either with right or with justice. They say that Russia is angry. Russia is not angry, Russia is concentrating. "
    - Alexander Mikhailovich Gorchakov, 1856
    1. master_rem
      master_rem 18 February 2014 09: 14
      +4
      Nothing changes ... No.
    2. master_rem
      master_rem 18 February 2014 09: 14
      0
      Nothing changes ... No.
  17. Humpty
    Humpty 18 February 2014 08: 52
    +15
    “In Russia, as you know, there is also not just trust in German quality and order, but in general, paradoxical, taking into account the historical context, sympathy for Germany - for example, VTsIOM polls show that this country (unlike the United States) is perceived by Russians as one of the most friendly to Russia in the world. "

    Paradoxically, I did not see any manifestations of Russophobia among the Germans, but rather the opposite. And I did not notice any unexpected "surprises" from them. The Germans have a hard time taking what is happening to their country - Islamization, debauchery. I am sure that behind the Russophobic German media, if you dig a little, there are not Germans.
    1. Sour
      Sour 18 February 2014 15: 39
      +1
      Quote: Humpty
      In Russia, as you know, there is also not only trust in German quality and order, but generally paradoxical, taking into account the historical context, sympathy for Germany

      I have been to Germany many times, I have an idea about it. I am also respectful of the German people. One cannot but respect him. But they annoy when they remove the blame from this people for unleashing two world wars and blame everything on some abstract "Anglo-Saxons". This is annoying specifically. ENOUGH TO LIE. The responsibility for the two world wars lies primarily with the Germans, not the Americans, Indians and Zulu.
      Quote: Humpty
      Paradoxically, among the Germans did not see manifestations of Russophobia rather the opposite

      Russophobia is missing there, especially among the older generation. And Russophobia there is no less than in the United States. But many times less, hundreds of times less than in Ukraine or Poland.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 18 February 2014 16: 06
        +3
        Quote: Sour
        Responsibility for the two world wars lies primarily with the Germans, not the Americans, not the Indians, and not the Zulus.

        The Germans, the Japanese, the Americans and the Jews are responsible for unleashing the Second World War. Not to blame for the outbreak of the Second World War - the colonies of the West (they are servants) and the social. country. Without belittling the "merits" of the Germans, I want to say that the Anglo-Saxons tried no less, and they are not abstract at all.
        1. Sour
          Sour 18 February 2014 16: 28
          -4
          Since the Anglo-Saxons are not abstract, then say - who exactly of which is responsible for Hitler's rise to power? Who! Yes, you will not name anyone. Because there is no one to name. I know enough about the history of Germany in the 20s and 30s to assert that Hitler’s rise to power is a purely German phenomenon. Nobody except the Germans had a hand in this.
          And which of the Anglo-Saxons is responsible for unleashing the 2nd World War? Chamberlain? Yes, I do not argue. To strengthen Hitler, he had a hand in surrendering Czechoslovakia to him. But Roosevelt is not at all involved. Your dislike of the Americans is understandable. But this is not a reason to blame everything on them. They are not to blame for starting a war. Your lies are no different from the lies of a certain Rezun, only he blamed everything on the USSR, and you on the USA. But in fact, the same lies. Give you free rein, you and dump the destruction of Carthage in the USA, because you are not operating with facts, but with your own fantasies.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 18 February 2014 16: 36
            +9
            Quote: Sour
            To strengthen Hitler, he had a hand in surrendering Czechoslovakia to him.

            Having surrendered ALL Europe, and you say that the Anglo-Saxons have nothing to do with it!
            Quote: Sour
            Your dislike of the Americans is understandable.

            "Dislike" has nothing to do with it, I understand that they are not FRIENDS, but very even ENEMIES.
            Quote: Sour
            but with my own fantasies.

            The fact that the United States traded with fascist Germany through third countries ALL AN WAR I also have my fantasies? The fact that the US is paying Maidan in Ukraine is also my imagination? And color revolutions in different countries are probably also my fantasies?
            You deny the obvious.

            Quote: Sour
            Your lies are no different from the lies of a certain Rezun, only he blamed everything on the USSR, and you on the USA.

            A cheap trick, it’s you, as a true rezunist, who deny the guilt of the USA for the Second World War.
            I, unlike a rezun, do not remove guilt from the Germans, not only the organizer of the crime - the United States, but the performer - Germany and Japan are to blame.
            1. Sour
              Sour 18 February 2014 16: 46
              -5
              Quote: Setrac
              The fact that the United States traded with fascist Germany through third countries ALL AN WAR I also have my fantasies?

              Yes, these are your fantasies. With the facts you are completely strained.
              Quote: Setrac
              The fact that the US is paying Maidan in Ukraine is also my imagination? And color revolutions in different countries are probably also my fantasies?

              And where does it ??? If the United States is to blame for something, then, in your opinion, are they to blame for everything? How old are you? 15, probably, judging by the logic?
              You are lying, but do not lie, Mr. Rezun's student.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 18 February 2014 17: 01
                +5
                Quote: Sour
                You are lying, but do not lie, Mr. Rezun's student.

                Do not turn upside down. Rezun defended the United States and you defend the United States, the Anglo-Saxon world, it is apparently closer to the Russian world. You are the worthy follower of Rezun.
                Quote: Sour
                And where does it ??? If the US is to blame for something

                What's the difference in all these color revolutions? Red in the Russian Empire, brown in Germany, orange in Ukraine? and other "color" revolutions? One technology, one customer - Anglo-Saxons.
                1. Sour
                  Sour 18 February 2014 17: 05
                  -3
                  Quote: Setrac
                  One technology, one customer - Anglo-Saxons.

                  Facts, facts ... And again, facts, please. Dumb unsubstantiated slogans are not interesting to me.
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 18 February 2014 17: 19
                    +3
                    Quote: Sour
                    Facts, facts ... And again, facts, please. Dumb unsubstantiated slogans are not interesting to me.

                    I quoted above, I will not repeat, calm down.
                  2. Victor-M
                    Victor-M 18 February 2014 22: 17
                    +2
                    Quote: Sour
                    Facts, facts ... And again, facts, please. Dumb unsubstantiated slogans are not interesting to me.

                    Do you speak facts? It would be a desire and eyes, and so at least stick a muzzle, but what's the point?
                  3. both s69
                    both s69 19 February 2014 07: 10
                    0
                    Quote: Sour
                    Facts, facts ... And again, facts, please. Dumb unsubstantiated slogans are not interesting to me.

                    Piss in the eye - "God's dew". You are given facts, and you are asking about them? Inadequacy of consciousness, or something else? .. what
  18. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 18 February 2014 08: 54
    +4
    In the place of the Chinese on the wave of Western hysteria, I would drive and drive wedges into our Western partnership, form S / P, develop deposits together, pull branches in both directions, etc., Japan and Scandinavia are too obedient to the overseas "mommy", otherwise, in their place, he would have what Germany is losing ...
  19. master_rem
    master_rem 18 February 2014 09: 13
    +19
    Video about "to spite my mom, I'll frostbite my ears." All positive.
    1. Shurale
      Shurale 18 February 2014 09: 53
      +1
      It’s hard to argue with logic ...
  20. Egoza
    Egoza 18 February 2014 09: 31
    +3
    "Well, does Germany interfere in the affairs of Ukraine?" wink And in general, "we" fly to Merkel for a cup of tea ... to talk, consult ... "Opposition leaders are planning to discuss today with the Federal Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel the need to avoid bloodshed in Ukraine and stop the political and economic crisis, the press service of Batkivshchyna reports. ". Yatsenyuk expressed his conviction that European partners can provide real support to Ukraine in the conditions of the economic and political crisis in the state. One of the solutions that is now on the table, in his words, is" the formation of a coalition government ":" Only in that case if we have a new reliable coalition government, Western partners will provide it with financial support. "" The government should resume negotiations with the IMF on a new loan, as well as, of course, with our European partners, to reset our relations with the EU, "Yatsenyuk said . "But the main thing for us is to avoid bloodshed and bankruptcy of the state, which can happen ifthe incumbent will take the steps he has taken over the past three and a half years. The need to avoid bloodshed and stop the political and economic crisis are the key messages that we want to convey to Chancellor Merkel, " - said Yatsenyuk. Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-138738.html
    XXXX
    And then she herself does not know !!!! am
    1. alex-s
      alex-s 18 February 2014 10: 24
      +3
      The need to avoid bloodshed and stop the political and economic crisis are the key messages we want to convey to Chancellor Merkel

      Nesuny fucking! They themselves brought the country to the crisis, and now they carry massages! Here are the shit! angry
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 18 February 2014 20: 43
        0
        maybe I'm wrong, but no less guilty in this mess of Janek. He didn’t allow banderlogs to prepare for this, did he twist his tail in front of the EU. Also, the economic situation in Ukraine, was engaged in personal business. Here and the fruits. In general, this is my opinion.
    2. vadson
      vadson 18 February 2014 13: 05
      +2
      good day,
      is it with the current technologies you want to drag yourself "on a foreign tour"? This trinity can receive orders from employers by phone, Internet, pigeon mail. pure dust in the eyes, not even the people and these imbeciles. like if they were allowed to live on the carpet, then they mean something. some promises and breakfasts. our guarantor did not go anywhere, stupidly offered money and work, and all the panic! the West cannot do that!
      what kind of a goat in a crack can there be ?! or do you really help the country or "message"
      1. demel2
        demel2 18 February 2014 14: 19
        +1
        Of course, they can also receive the task through the Internet, but imagine how much this husk felt as important persons, and they will sell not only their homeland, but also their mother for such messages. Caricatured politicians.
        1. vadson
          vadson 18 February 2014 15: 03
          +2
          so as it is necessary to be a clinical idea, so as not to understand that they will be thrown out like an elastic band. Gaddafi finished, Mubarak left, Saddam and bin Laden left. Duc these people had eggs with their heads called. and Yatsenyuk this WHO? aphid, pale mouse
          rams in one word.
  21. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 18 February 2014 09: 37
    +12
    Order in the world will come only when Russia and Germany realize that they have nothing to share, but there never was. In all world wars, both Russia and Germany fought with each other, but why? Were the Russian and German empires "irreconcilable enemies" in World War I? Their interests collided somewhere? Was it dangerous for Germany to possess the straits of Russia? Did economic interests collide? Also not. Was there any mutual hostility? Certainly not between the Russians and the Germans. Was Russia preventing Germany from having colonies? Generally nonsense. Only filthy Austria-Hungary, this walking monster of Frankenstein on a patchwork consisting of peoples hating each other, made a kind of split. But what was more important for Germany, a walking corpse in friends and an enemy Russia, or friendly Russia and a "corpse" in enemies, Austria- Hungary was doomed to collapse even without a war, you don't even have to be a "bison of geopolitics" to understand this, but we, alas, only had Nicholas II, this is a disgrace to the Romanov dynasty, in fact, he destroyed it.
    And where did the interests of the USSR and the Third Reich intersect? By the end of 1940, Adolf had bitten off such a huge and fatty piece that the Germans could only "digest" in 200-300 years.
    And now, what kind of contradictions do these exist between Russia and Germany? Military, economic, trade? Does Russia creep into the internal affairs of Germany? Not again. Just like before the First and Second World Anglo-Saxons they will get out of their way, but they will not allow friendship between Russia and Germany, without batting an eye, will spend billions, go to any meanness, and even probably right up to the war, but they won’t allow this.
    1. Sergey Sitnikov
      Sergey Sitnikov 18 February 2014 09: 44
      0
      I once read an opinion, they say, Stalin was even offered to let the Wehrmacht to Iran and India along the way by solving the "Jewish question", I can not vouch for the reliability, but as an option, this did not suit Stalin ...
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 18 February 2014 10: 01
        +2
        The Germans could have dealt with the Anglo-Saxons even without the admission of troops to Iran or India, and the Americans would never have intervened in the war. Only Hitler’s irrational act of attacking the USSR saved Britain from complete defeat, whatever Churchill said there.
        1. Tiamat2702
          Tiamat2702 18 February 2014 12: 52
          +1
          Well, guys, you’re completely talking about something. You still write down Hitler's fascism in potential allies. In my opinion, in a nutshell, the truth is that the enemy of Russia (the USSR) was just Nazism, which established itself in Germany at one time, but Germany itself and the German people never did. And, it seems to me, at this point in time, a reliable political and economic union between Russia and Germany would benefit both sides.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 18 February 2014 13: 31
            +2
            Quote: Tiamat2702
            Well, guys, you’re completely talking about something. You still write down Hitler's fascism in potential allies. In my opinion, in a nutshell, the truth is that the enemy of Russia (the USSR) was just Nazism, which established itself in Germany at one time, but Germany itself and the German people never did. And, it seems to me, at this point in time, a reliable political and economic union between Russia and Germany would benefit both sides.

            Well, who installed this Nazism and fascism in Germany? NOT GERMANS. After Germany was defeated in World War I, and in Russia there was a revolution (just in time) it was the Anglo-Saxons who commanded in Germany and they, the Anglo-Saxons, established that very fascism in Germany.
            The same arrogant Saxons that are now establishing fascist regimes in the republics of the former USSR. American money leads its anti-Russian activities even in such pro-Russian countries as Kazakhstan and Belarus.
            1. Sour
              Sour 18 February 2014 15: 29
              +2
              Quote: Setrac
              NOT GERMANS.

              Germans, Germans. Calm down you.
              I served in Germany and saw a flooded underground aircraft factory there. They made military aircraft. The Versailles world forbade them to have Germany. But they secretly built such plants before the denunciation of the Treaty of Versailles. Do you know when they started building this plant? In the year 1924. The war was just over, and few knew about Hitler. But Germany (ravaged by the war, half-starved) at full speed began to prepare for a new war. And under these conditions, Hitler's rise to power was already a foregone conclusion. The German elite would surely have brought him to power, or someone else similar. And your Americans are out of business here. Enough to blame everything on them and otmazyvat Germans. Give you free rein, you and Napoleon’s invasion will be blamed on the United States. Stop lying already. Not tired?
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 18 February 2014 15: 52
                +1
                Quote: Sour
                The German elite would surely have brought him to power, or someone else similar. And your Americans are out of business here.

                But in Ukraine in our time, too, Americans are out of business? They are nowhere in business. All kinds of different color revolutions take place on their own. How is the orange revolution different from the brown revolution in Germany or the red revolution in the Russian Empire?
                1. Sour
                  Sour 18 February 2014 16: 48
                  -3
                  And where does Ukraine, Mr. fan of Rezun? Since, in your opinion, the Americans are to blame for something, are they to blame for everything? Give facts of US involvement in Hitler's rise to power.
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 18 February 2014 17: 03
                    +3
                    Quote: Sour
                    And where does Ukraine, Mr. fan of Rezun?

                    Apparently this is your favorite hero, too often you mention him! Which of us is his fan here? Or are you so clumsy decided here to propagandize your pet?
                  2. both s69
                    both s69 19 February 2014 07: 16
                    0
                    Quote: Sour
                    Give facts of US involvement in Hitler's rise to power.

                    Troll? belay
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      2. Setrac
        Setrac 18 February 2014 11: 25
        0
        Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
        I once read an opinion, they say, Stalin was even offered to let the Wehrmacht to Iran and India along the way by solving the "Jewish question", I can not vouch for the reliability, but as an option, this did not suit Stalin ...

        Open the map and see the path to Iran and India does not lie through Russia. Hitler’s American bosses did not allow him to take Turkey, but pointed a finger at Russia.
      3. kotvov
        kotvov 18 February 2014 20: 46
        0
        this is all bullshit. don’t you understand that this is another attempt to put Stalin and Hitler on the same board. have your own head and try to analyze, though, what you are being lied to.
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 18 February 2014 18: 21
      0
      You are almost right. The Germans are almost ... almost ... Nifiga would not have worked and apparently will not. For all their positive qualities, the Germans are still Europeans. And this means vile, down and out scum. Blame the Anglo-Saxons as if they were dead, but ... the pictures are where we are going to go? Joyful "sunny" photos with hanged, stabbed, suppressed armored vehicles (of course, sorry for the cartridges) and with a sea of ​​smiling faces, satisfied with themselves and the world of GERMANS?
      One must never forget - European, any European more than anything else wants to kill, burn, rape and hang. As confirmed by thousands of years of terrible experience.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 18 February 2014 19: 07
        0
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Blame the Anglo-Saxons as dead

        More than alive.
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Joyful "sunny" photos with hanged, stabbed, suppressed armored vehicles (of course, sorry for the cartridges) and with a sea of ​​smiling faces, satisfied with themselves and the world of GERMANS?

        So I do not remove guilt from the Germans.
  22. major071
    major071 18 February 2014 09: 47
    +15
    Russia no longer has sympathies for Berlin
    And Merkel’s rating is melting right before our eyes
    Hey there in Germany, turn on the lights soon
    Sprout Lieblingsland in the bud
    No more believing in US fables
    For Anglo-Saxons you stand a notch
    Although there were wars between us, but always
    You were closer to Russia in the middle of Europe
    Maybe it's Russian, our mentality
    We regret only those whom we defeated
    Having acquired immunity from the West for hundreds of years
    For some reason, we only loved the Germans
    Germany wake up, take off your yoke
    Not the way you cheated in English
    Years go on and on anyway
    You will take the path, of course, pro-Russian
  23. RBLip
    RBLip 18 February 2014 10: 06
    +4
    historical fact. while Russia was friends (as you like, you can peacefully coexist) with Germany, Europe was calm. Englishwomen, of course, crap on small things, they can't do without it, they have indigestion of oatmeal. but as soon as the efforts of various "advanced" and "democratic" Germany began to "make a fool" it led to a massacre. examples of 1st and 2nd world wars. it only led to one thing. the Germans remained in ruins. didn't it teach them anything? apparently not ...
  24. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 18 February 2014 10: 26
    +4
    A colleague is partially right, because both Germany and Russia were weird! Forever, as soon as we are pushed against Germany, we get on the threshold of a big fight, walk with broken faces, and everyone around us rejoices. When we learn not to step on the rake, which we have repeatedly advancing, we should strive to be friends with Germany (I hope she wants the same thing), only then, at least in Europe, peace will come.
  25. vorobey
    vorobey 18 February 2014 10: 31
    +6
    Good day friends.


    I already wrote as I repeat.

    "Why do we need to treat the 60 million Russian people who later will definitely become an ally of any enemy of Prussia" O. Bismarck. "Memories and Reflections"

    Europeans read the classics. Will be more whole or something.

    - Europe has always been embarrassed by our "special become." And we are too big a value to ignore us, but they can’t remake for themselves! And the mere presence of us, as an independent phenomenon of history, choosing our own path, even if we don’t take any trouble at all, our mere presence in the world does not allow anyone to control the world from one point. We survived after the 90s, and that’s all - the idea of ​​a “unipolar world” failed! These are the laws of large quantities - around large quantities, as around a giant planet there is always a zone of attraction, and this is a different world, an alternative, a choice. Here, please, they only put forward the idea of ​​the Eurasian space - how fussed there! - the choice is already an alternative. How many races, religions, ways to live! By the way, Russia itself is a scaled-down model of the whole world. As Vasily Osipovich Klyuchevsky wrote, even before the baptism of Rus, there was a whole international in the squad of the Kiev prince, which distinguished the Russian state from Europe, which was on the path to creating mono-ethnic and monoconfessional societies. For centuries, Russia has accumulated a unique experience of cohabitation and cooperation of peoples - each of them could pray to their gods, but belonging to the whole was also an expensive value.

    Excerpt N. Narochnitskaya

    completely here http://dbelyaev.ru/natalia-narochnitskaya-why-have-we-not-love-12527.html
  26. sinukvl
    sinukvl 18 February 2014 10: 44
    +4
    Having dealt with the states, they began to understand that they themselves were nothing, zero, and now they are trying to make peace with us. And this is after what they have heaped up in Ukraine, so that they wouldn’t have gone to the forest with a field of mushrooms and berries.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 18 February 2014 10: 51
      +6
      Quote: sinukvl
      Having dealt with the states, they began to understand that they themselves were nothing, zero, and now they are trying to make peace with us. And this is after what they have heaped up in Ukraine, so that they wouldn’t have gone to the forest with a field of mushrooms and berries.


      The fact was that this was just what they want Russia and Germany to fight as neighbors in a communal apartment. The union of Germany and Russia will radically change the balance of power not only in the region but also in the world as a whole. This is what Britons and dances do not want.
  27. veteran56
    veteran56 18 February 2014 10: 47
    +5
    Where have sober German politicians gone? The development of relations (not only economic) with Russia will bring much more advantages than the stupid creation of prerequisites for unleashing a cold war between Russia and Europe. I can understand the position of the United States towards Russia, after all, improving relations between Russia and the countries The EU will hit the image of Washington (although it is not very good anyway). I agree that the more dirt pours out on my country from the Western media, the worse our attitude towards those countries where the most negative assessments of everything Russian are. from integration processes with Russia will lead to complete chaos in the Ukrainian economy, and the Slavs will not wait for help from Mrs. Merkel. The story with Greece will repeat itself - we will give you money, but you will have to cut, reduce, fire, etc., etc. Of course, one of the reasons for the current situation in Ukraine is a weak president who allowed the situation to become critical.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 18 February 2014 10: 56
      +2
      Quote: veteran56
      sober German politicians


      it’s not only a matter of sobriety. They are. It depends. The foreign exchange reserve of Germany is in storage in the United States (True, is it already or not is the second question), hence the pipe under which they dance. As soon as Germany begins to talk about the return of the stock, the Allies begin to crush her.
      1. Yuri Sev Caucasus
        Yuri Sev Caucasus 18 February 2014 13: 20
        0
        which they recently asked to return and received a refusal! By the way, there our Chinese and foreign exchange reserves also lie in China too! And no one is going to return it to anyone !!! So it turns out they gave it to us for storage (we entrusted the goat with cabbage)
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 18 February 2014 13: 58
          +1
          Quote: Yuri Sev Caucasus
          By the way, there our gold and foreign exchange reserve lies with you


          Not all. two thirds in Russia.
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  28. serge
    serge 18 February 2014 11: 35
    +1
    With the help of Bismarck, having created Germany from Prussia with many German principalities, Gorchakov and Alexander II brought untold disasters to Russia. It was a wild mistake of Russian politics. Tactically destroying the consequences of the Crimean War, a hostile empire was strategically created right at the side of Russia. Instead of eternal gratitude for its creation, Germany became a fighting ram of the Jewish empire, which was always hostile to Russia. Like the United States, by the way, which were saved by the Russian fleet and whose hostility towards the Russians for this exceeds all reasonable limits. After the creation of Germany, English and American Jews have been doing their favorite thing for a hundred years, from the islands pitting Slavs with Westerners, Japan and now China, and getting gesheft from this. Only the alliance of Russia with Germany and China will establish peace on the continent.
    1. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 20: 12
      0
      Quote: serge
      It was a wild mistake of Russian politics.

      And we also supported the United States.
      Selling royal family with their entourage.
  29. Navy7981
    Navy7981 18 February 2014 11: 48
    -1
    Germany’s actions can be explained by the fact that she (Germany) is trying to get what she could not get in the 45th.
    Those who speak are right - history does not teach anyone. Everyone rolls on the same rake with enthusiasm and masochism.
  30. Tiamat2702
    Tiamat2702 18 February 2014 12: 14
    +3
    What a sensible article. The author is 5 points. How nice it is when a person is absolutely friends with brains and knows how to use them. And how (unfortunately) this quality is currently lacking in many in Ukraine, the EU and the USA (and in Russia).
  31. Stasi
    Stasi 18 February 2014 13: 00
    0
    Napoleon once said in an interview with Alexander the First that he could do Russia a favor by erasing Prussia from the world map. Alexander the First refused such a proposal of Napoleon. But give the Russian emperor your consent regarding Prussia, Germany as such simply would not exist and the whole story would be completely different. It is no exaggeration to say that the Germans owe their existence as a people to Russia, they must erect a monument to Alexander the First. Brzezinski in his sayings that Russia should be adopted into the European family is not original. Frankly speaking, starting with Peter the Great, who had chosen the Westernization course, the Romanov dynasty had been pursuing a policy of rapprochement with the West for 300 years, trying with all its might to enter Europe. Only now all these efforts ended in zilch. The West will never accept Russia and recognize it as its own and equal, no matter what the political and political system in Russia may be. We should understand this and firmly assimilate - no matter what we do, no matter how hard we try - we will never become our own for Europe and the West. This was understood even by Peter the Great, bequeathed to turn his head to Europe, to the East face. We should have fulfilled the Petrov covenant for a long time, and we continue to continue the policy of the Romanovs, blindly hoping that the West will accept us.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 18 February 2014 13: 37
      0
      Americans as a nation owe us exactly the same thing. Are you waiting for gratitude? From THESE? Seriously?!
      1. Stasi
        Stasi 18 February 2014 14: 58
        +1
        Not at all, you should not expect gratitude from the Westerners; history constantly teaches this. The Germans are just a pity, the most persistent and European nation of all European peoples was. And now, thanks to the Americans and the British, from Aryans strong in spirit and body they have turned into pot-bellied cowardly burghers, and even pi .... s.
    2. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 20: 07
      0
      Quote: Stasi
      Napoleon once said in an interview with Alexander the First that he could do Russia a favor by erasing Prussia from the world map. Alexander the First refused such a proposal of Napoleon. But give the Russian emperor your consent with regard to Prussia, Germany as such simply would not exist and the whole story would be completely different

      What nonsense ...........
      I will not even make footnotes on documents.
      The regicide Alexander is not to blame for the formation of Germany.
  32. Duke
    Duke 18 February 2014 13: 11
    -1
    The more the West denigrates Russia, the more popular the Eurasian model of relations will be with us.
    1. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 20: 00
      0
      Quote: Duke
      The more the West denigrates Russia, the more popular the Eurasian model of relations will be with us.

      Who does YOU have?
      If on TV they constantly talk about the "evil empire", then the majority will believe it
  33. Good_Taxist
    Good_Taxist 18 February 2014 13: 14
    -1
    As long as we are strong and the vector of development of our State is turned in the right direction, we will have many enemies and "friends". All the hysteria around everything Ours suggests that we are doing everything right. We would not slip into the nineties thanks to our liberals While we are strong and the vector of development of our Power is turned in the right direction, we will have many enemies and "friends". All the hysteria around everything Ours suggests that we are doing everything right. Not to slide into the nineties thanks to our librarian!
    1. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 19: 58
      0
      Quote: Good_Taxist
      As long as we are strong and the vector of development of our State is turned in the right direction, we will have many enemies and "friends". All the hysteria around everything Ours suggests that we are doing everything right. We would not slip into the nineties thanks to our liberals While we are strong and the vector of development of our Power is turned in the right direction, we will have many enemies and "friends". All the hysteria around everything Ours suggests that we are doing everything right. Not to slide into the nineties thanks to our librarian!

      I did not understand.
  34. Hort
    Hort 18 February 2014 13: 28
    0
    But those who directed the revolution in Ukraine know. And they are well aware that, having pulled such skeletons out of the tomb of history, one can create the necessary concentration of mutual hatred to start a civil war and split the country.
    Yeah, and after her tank tours in Europe ...
    1. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 19: 57
      0
      Quote: hort
      Yeah, and after her tank tours in Europe ...

      What for?
      Ukrainians have already shown themselves.
      And Europe understood the difference between Ukrainians and Russians.
      They thought they were fucking Russians, but they turned out to be Ukrainian and Moldavian.
  35. hrenodir
    hrenodir 18 February 2014 13: 29
    -1
    It would seem, on the contrary, they are generous from generosity. But amazing people, the more "Guliver" gives, the more "midgets" are angrier (((.
  36. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 18 February 2014 13: 51
    0
    Again! This music will be eternal ... Guys, this has happened countless times. The truth is that the essence of the West is envy, malice, meanness. All this is covered with a sweet, hypocritical, rubbery smile, such as culture ... Every time we had a bad time, the West was desperate to finish us off. And every time we shook ourselves off, wiped the bloody snot from our faces and again showed Europe a solid clenched fist, instead of a hand extended for a handshake, on the fingers of which cultural Europeans hit with a shovel with all the dope, this always started.
    Sitting on their ass in a muddy puddle, our "European friends" began to remember that it was not Russia that had started another fight. Russia offered peace and friendship. And this world with friendship was MUTUAL ... Where there is. Everything will be as it was - as soon as we stumble and they rush again. The only way to have an adequate dialogue with the Europeans is to beat them regularly, painfully, severely, inevitably. We all know such people - you don't scratch his face with your fist, you don't understand any words ...
    1. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 19: 53
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail3
      Everything will be as it was - as soon as we stumble and they will rush again

      And let's not stumble.
      Let's live by our own rules.
      Let's clean the Gaster and go janitors ourselves.
      Let's stop aiming at the cinema and commerce, and let the engineers go into real production.
      Let's stop giving bribes, and instead write a statement to bribe takers.
      Let's choose not those who have a lot of dough and beautiful slogans, but those who can work.
      GDP correctly said that show yourself at the local level.
      Raised the region, raise the region, raise the country.
      GDP is looking for someone to transfer the country to.
      He does not want to repeat IVS errors
  37. garlik
    garlik 18 February 2014 13: 53
    0
    Yes, the Germans have always been and will be enemies. There is nothing you can do about it. They even get the Slavs from the word Slave. Slightly weaker immediately they occupy a good place to live. Partnership please, but all sorts of sentiments are nothing.
    1. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 19: 40
      +1
      Quote: garlik
      Yes, the Germans have always been and will be enemies. There is nothing you can do about it.

      And I thought that the Germans were always friends. Watch the movie Zadornov, read the books themselves about the Slavs.
      Quote: garlik
      They even Slavs from the word Slave comes

      And this is the influence of Catholicism.
      Russian can not be a slave. (read Russian truth or laws of Ivan 4)
  38. Alex toll
    Alex toll 18 February 2014 14: 14
    0
    Great article! The author is well done! And rightly so - do not spit ept against the wind, it is blowing your sails!
  39. Krsk
    Krsk 18 February 2014 14: 23
    0
    Do the Germans run out of memory? Have you decided to maintain the coup?
  40. ussrex
    ussrex 18 February 2014 14: 31
    0
    You can’t even call these Euro-Germans yourself - they don’t consider this treatment for insult. Rather, they will take it as a compliment ... Nauseous.
    1. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 19: 32
      0
      Quote: ussrex
      You can’t even call these Euro-Germans yourself - they don’t consider this treatment for insult. Rather, they will take it as a compliment ... Nauseous.

      Among these Germans there are a lot of our compatriots who fled from Kazakhstan.
      And there are residents of the GDR (Angelka from them).
      Do not consider Merkel dumber than yourself. There is a very difficult situation.
  41. Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 18 February 2014 14: 59
    0
    The Americans are holding a German gold reserve, which the Germans do not know how to get back. At this time, the operation is underway, you need to move this reserve to Russia. It is like the golden eggs of Germany in the hands of Russia. The operation is not secret but troublesome, who should leave something after dumping dollar from the pedestal.
    1. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 19: 27
      0
      Quote: Sadykoff
      The Americans are holding a German gold reserve, which the Germans do not know how to get back. At this time, the operation is underway, you need to move this reserve to Russia. It is like the golden eggs of Germany in the hands of Russia. The operation is not secret but troublesome, who should leave something after dumping dollar from the pedestal.

      Where did the information come from?
      What a reserve, if the Americans leased it for a long time.
      There is nothing to give.
      China is working, and GDP is driving.
      Berlin-Moscow-Beijing.
      All other suckers.
  42. deman73
    deman73 18 February 2014 15: 12
    0
    we have no friends and no allies; Russia has only a strong army and navy true friends and allies
    1. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 19: 22
      0
      Quote: deman73
      we have no friends and no allies; Russia has only a strong army and navy true friends and allies

      There are friends and allies.
      And to repeat other people's phrases, without a footnote, is not beautiful - plagiarism
  43. lightman
    lightman 18 February 2014 16: 25
    +2
    Quote: Igor39
    You have formulated the question incorrectly, not with Germany along the way, but with Germany along the way. Germany is starting to build its Internet network, the fourth Reich is being slowly built.
    Germany has its own way. Or do you think that there is no master in the EU?

    Do you think Germany has no master? Germany is a colony which is wholly and entirely owned by the USA. It is occupied by the states.
  44. I think so
    I think so 18 February 2014 17: 05
    -2
    In general, Russia doesn’t give a shit to the West and repeat what was done during the USSR. This is the most promising behavior of a weak wolf pack. It will certainly be difficult, but the country will remain whole, and the people are alive ... all other options end with the division and destruction of the Slavic civilization, and for the Russian people the reservations are like Indian ... Putin is a weakling and will not be able to solve such a difficult task ... to look for a more sensible and demanding, and most importantly devoted to his country and people ...
    1. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 19: 19
      0
      Quote: I think so
      In general, Russia doesn’t give a shit to the West and repeat what was done during the USSR. This is the most promising behavior of a weak wolf pack. It will certainly be difficult, but the country will remain whole, and the people are alive ... all other options end with the division and destruction of the Slavic civilization, and for the Russian people the reservations are like Indian ... Putin is a weakling and will not be able to solve such a difficult task ... to look for a more sensible and demanding, and most importantly devoted to his country and people ...

      Do you want a civil war? Look at the outskirts.
      We slowly, slowly we go and the whole herd.
      And you work at your level.
      To get started, do not litter near your home. Then start working yourself, and not invite service staff and Gaster from the housing and communal services.
      First a house, then a yard, then a quarter. There is a country and a world.
      Both GDP and Navalny cannot clean up every home. Start with yourself.
  45. RND
    RND 18 February 2014 17: 11
    -1
    Today, Russia does not spoil the historically established chances for healthy cooperation. Russia, on the contrary, is perplexed. But the European neighbors, and first of all Germany, should think - what do they still want?
    Like in front of the monastery gates.
    The ram accelerates - bang ... There are gates!
    Ishsho just try - babah ... Nah, there are damned !!!
    “I don’t interfere, I do not interfere, I want to enter this,” the ram mutters, losing consciousness.
    - Stronger and faster needed! - advises from behind the tubercle ram in striped pants, whose ears are visible, probably even from the moon.
    So, acceleration is stronger, direction is more precise ... Bakhtrababah !!!
    Nee-fi-ga !!! For small horns did not fall off ...
    And then, lo and behold, they saw the brains from the concussion, the vision cleared up. A sheep looks, and the gates were open !!! Damn, what a shortsightedness, what will the rest of them think now? Or maybe they didn’t hear the roar?
    And outside the gates is a holiday, and no one bothers to enter. You can buy roosters on a stick, inexpensively. One thing is that it’s a strange monastery, they don’t let go of their charter, and so come in, maybe the males will get.
    Maybe not too beautiful, but real, not maple ...
    Honey!
  46. Tol.Skiff
    Tol.Skiff 18 February 2014 17: 12
    -1
    When in the United States after the war they began to accept the former German bastard, then America was infected with this "brown plague" and is now trying to infect the whole world with it. Obama is a black Fuhrer, and Merkel is his weather vane ... The new global Reich has already been built !!! hi
    1. washi
      washi 18 February 2014 19: 08
      0
      Quote: Tol.Skiff
      When in the United States after the war they began to accept the former German bastard, then America was infected with this "brown plague" and is now trying to infect the whole world with it. Obama is a black Fuhrer, and Merkel is his weather vane ... The new global Reich has already been built !!! hi

      Read books, not sites.
      The theory of Nazism originated in England.
      It was confirmed in England (the destruction of the Irish) and their colonies (USA, Australia, South Africa - the destruction of the indigenous people). And also the Russian north and east (concentration camp during the Civil)
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 18 February 2014 19: 14
        0
        Quote: Vasya
        The theory of Nazism originated in England.
        It was confirmed in England (the destruction of the Irish) and their colonies (USA, Australia, South Africa - the destruction of the indigenous people). And also the Russian north and east (concentration camp during the Civil)

        I want to draw attention to the fact that more recently the population of Ireland was not inferior to the population of England, now the difference is TEN times, this is the real genocide of the Irish. This awaits all non-Anglo-Saxons who are at hand of Britain and America. It awaits Eastern Europe and Ukraine if it chooses the EU.
  47. delfinN
    delfinN 18 February 2014 17: 14
    0
    Apparently they remembered that the keys to Berlin are still stored in St. Petersburg.
  48. washi
    washi 18 February 2014 19: 01
    0
    When people see disrespect, insulting teachings, outright lies and gloating, and also political behavior that causes associations not only with the cold, but also with the real war, one should not be surprised that the West will see everything in the eyes of the Russians more have the image of the enemy.
    That says it all.
    In general, an article by a competent analyst reading foreign media
  49. alone
    alone 18 February 2014 19: 33
    0
    Germany. Merkel. They have the EU. Germany is forced to act like the EU. It will not work differently. Any rebound from the common position means the collapse of the EU. Where the Germans play the role of locomotive. Too many German finances lie in the vastness of the EU to take risks.
  50. serge
    serge 18 February 2014 20: 43
    0
    Serious things have already begun in Kiev. Link of today's street battles, while cold steel, from the website of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine:

    http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/ru/publish/article/983830