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Behind the scenes of modern sports

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The 2014 Winter Olympics passed through its equator. The Olympics, which makes us think about the development of sports, about the impact on the results of not only the direct talent of athletes, but also numerous technologies. Little things, nuances, tricks - today they also make their own quite significant contribution to the victory of one or another team, this or that athlete. As it is hardly possible in our time, the Olympics without politics and outside politics, so it is hardly possible to Olympics without technological struggle, which directly fits with the development of science. Both 30 and 40 years ago, sports records were forged not without the use of the achievements of national and world scientific work, and today this “forging” has become a truly crucial link in the world of high-performance sports.

In this regard, the Olympic motto "Faster! Above! Stronger! ”It is fair to refer not only to athletes and coaches, but also to those people who rarely appear on the screens - to people who forge victories on the scientific and near-scientific front.

It is a pity that the sport of high achievements today has finally turned into a segment of a profitable business, in which the same athletes often look hostage to the situation. The owners of such a business, in fact, are not interested in the athlete as such, in the sphere of their interests - the body of an athlete who can afford to make a profit. If the “body” cannot produce the result itself, then it is those who can “blind” the appropriate option that enter into the process: chemists, microbiologists, pharmacists, practicing researchers in materials science, optics, psychologists, and even programmers. "You will give us the result! .."

It looks, of course, unsportsmanlike, but we seem to be accustomed to this, and the process can hardly be called reversible. So accustomed that the injury of an athlete, his illness or acclimatization of many simply ceased to worry. And here it is not only about you and me - about the Russian fans. This is a global trend. The world needs sport beyond human capabilities. As they say, “take out and put” a medal, a record, a defeat of the enemy ... This cannot be done - let them look for others, stuff them with something, nano-engines cling to skis, rifles with a laser sight are given out, slippery snow is printed on at least 3D printer "Made" all ...

If it is speed skating or tobogganing, then you are an athlete, if you beat your closest competitors for a second, at least by 2-3, although between the other participants - the difference in tenths and hundredths ... If it is hockey, then you are an athlete, if you score goals in each change, bringing the score to double-digit, and do not care that the opposing team is also not a bunch, excuse me, flawed ... Otherwise, you are a rag, a scarecrow, a corrupt NHL player, or so depending on the citizenship of the fan), “and how they took him only for the national team” ...

In general, the business of sports has made us so, and it is already somewhat late in this regard to engage in self-flagellation. If we are accustomed to this, then we demand a corresponding approach - the maximum on each track, on each rink, on every springboard. - We want to see not even athletes, but sort of gladiators, and even a version of “avatars” - people in the bodies of athletes. Some are ready to idolize, others are morally aware for fourth place. Thumb up, thumb down ...

Often, the idea of ​​superiority so dominates the people responsible for sporting events, for the achievements of the athletes of their teams, that they are ready to turn any competitions into a “triumphal march” of their national sport. If we talk about the recent Olympics, then a strange stereotype has arisen in society: if a country accepts the Olympics, then it should collect almost all the medals that are played on it. There is another stereotype: the country must have a “profile” sport where it is necessary to cut medals ... From exactly the moment such an idea began to cultivate and spread - it is difficult to say, but the fact that many organizers put such a thesis in the first place of their work (medals and records at any cost) - a fact. To understand this, you can look at the Olympic results of some teams. For a start about the organizing countries.

Winter Olympics in Vancouver. The hosts really do shave gold — as many as 14 gold awards (a record of all the latest Winter Olympics). Before that, Canadians had 2006 gold awards in Turin 7, 2002 7 gold medals in Salt Lake City, 1998 gold 6 in Nagano, and 1994 4 gold in Nagano. And at home - well, such a jerk! .. In Sochi, by the way, Canada currently has 4 "gold". As they say, feel the difference ...

The same with the Winter Olympics in Beijing. Same with the Universiade series.

Of course, there is no moral right to suspect the same Canadians that they decided at home to “give a little help” to their athletes, no, but “digital” indicators are a stubborn thing ...

Now, not about the organizers. Year 1998. The Netherlands national team celebrates the golden extravaganza in Nagano. Medals on the Dutch skaters are strewed like a cornucopia. And despite the fact that even the 4 a year ago, the Dutch did not have a single "gold". Was the Norwegian ice not as hospitable as Japanese? But it turned out that ice is like ice ... Only now the thirst for victory was essentially quenched not so much by the Dutch athletes themselves, as by the inventors of the skates-claps - the skates with the heel open, which all Dutch rivals simply left out of work. The Dutch had valves, while others did not ...

When the secret was revealed, other athletes also put on their valves (already in other tournaments) - the Dutch went down the test table of the following Olympics: 3 Salt Lake City gold, 3 Turin gold Medal ... In Sochi, the Netherlands team has 5 gold (and only 17 medals) with 8 medals (of various denominations) in Vancouver ... And again we will feel the difference ...

It is interesting, and if we still equip our athletes' skis with engines, and program the puck to fly past the goalkeeper after the strikes of our hockey players, this will also be counted as the mentioned Dutch skates conceived in 1998 ... Will it be counted as a high achievement sport, if, for example, to take, and to put the Russian athlete on the highest step of the pedestal, even if he did not occupy the first place - well, how then - they put a Canadian pair in Salt Lake City on 2002 ...

Behind the scenes of modern sports


In general, all this means that modern sports are ready to be served under such a sauce that sometimes the taste of sports itself cannot be disassembled ... And you want it so much!
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  1. Hleb
    Hleb 18 February 2014 07: 40
    +5
    the Dutch have taken everything on ice today

    Head coach of the Russian national team Konstantin Poltavets:
    - The Dutch, I think, themselves did not expect this. Last year, here at the World Championships, they took what they could - 13 medals, including 6 gold. And their calculation for the Olympics was about the same. Perhaps with a small margin of error of 10 to 15 percent. What happened? The result in skating is made up of many components. Physical, technical, psychological and material. The latter includes skates and ice. By chance, the ice in the "Adler-Arena" at the Olympics turned out to be, let's say, a worker. When full lights are turned on and eight thousand spectators are seated in the stands, it becomes very close in quality to the ice at Tialf in Heerenveen. And none of the foreigners, with the exception of the Koreans led by Lee Sang Hwa, have been there over the past year. Therefore, no one, except the Dutch, knows what kind of ice it is. And we ran into him for the first time. Previously, there was no such ice in the "Adler-Arena". But the technical running model directly depends on its properties. It is impossible to quickly rebuild athletes to other equipment "
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    2. invisibility
      invisibility 18 February 2014 08: 19
      +7
      Quote: Gleb
      In general, the business in sports has made us like that, and it’s kind of too late to do self-flagellation about this.

      I fundamentally disagree with Alexei! Soviet sports made us like that! Accustomed to victories.
      Sport is a victory for the athlete! And I don’t see anything wrong in the triumphal procession. The Olympics is for this and exists to prove - you are the best! And to come just to ride is the lot of the Jamaican bobsled team, with all due respect to them.
      Remember the article about Plushenko? Have you seen how loners fell? And now answer now, did Kovtun have a chance at least for bronze? So the next time we are represented by three athletes?
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    5. Papakiko
      Papakiko 18 February 2014 10: 28
      +5
      Quote: Gleb
      it is getting very close to ice quality at Thialf in Heerenveen.

      Quote: Gleb
      Therefore, no one except the Dutch knows what ice it is. And we faced him for the first time.

      First, you need to take a look from the inside at who supplied the equipment and who maintains Adler Arena.
      1) Some nuances can be added to the composition of the water and the slip will change.
      2) Blades made of another metal and again woo-a-la.
      3) Sharpening on the blades do a little different and again the result.
      4) Magnetize-demagnetize the blades and again a miracle.
      Golondosov can only be respected for striving to bring innovations to the inventory. Until 98 years, running skates have not changed for almost 40 years !!
      About skiing: is there a lot of Russian things about skiing "fishers" or "atomics"?
      How much norgi and the Germans pour dough into the development of lubricants, polymer coatings, surface relief and, naturally, "chemistry" for domestic consumption? Dark!
      We see this in stores on the price tags of inventory and clothing for active "rest".
      The most important thing that Alexey forgot to describe in the article is the factor of the Tote. This moment, together with sponsorship efforts, play a decisive role in the distribution of places.
      And the greatness of modern athletes is determined not only in their physical ability to GIVE a result, but also in the ability to hear the instructions of the "sponsor" and the greatness of Stanislavsky's system. THOSE. must be able to play to the audience, showing the whole palette from experiencing to "dying" at the finish.
      I can’t say that our athletes are bad actors-they are trying.
      But spectators in the stands behave in a straightforward manner.
      Just watch any foreign broadcast and see for yourself.
      There, any athlete is minimally heated with a standing ovation and simply drowned.
      And we have?
      Watching the Olympics and dumb for citizens.
      Do not care that they "condemn" our (Ilyins, Katsalapov), they know that the distribution of "elephants" is scheduled and they only need to work out. Meet the beautiful woman Tessa Virtue and her partner with a thunderous ovation and spend it the same way.
      Bathe 3,14 by Meryl Davis and White. Canadians and Americans are "brought up" by Igor Yurievich Shpilband and Marina Olegovna Zueva. They need to applaud first and only then think about the athletes (puppets). Belonging to the flag-state is already a really third matter.
      A show and only a show in the first place, please remember.
      1. cat 1970
        cat 1970 19 February 2014 06: 44
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        Basically I agree, but I want to add some points.
        1. For example, the disgusting physical, mountain, shooting training of our biathletes. Maybe it's coaching indifference or worse sabotage (the last three years they have been finishing off Russian biathlon, with the full support of foreign specialists), the national team arrived from across the hill in Sochi only on January 30, although everyone knows that a person's acclimatization period is three weeks, and now they are running along track like fish stunned by TNT and fall, fall ... (I am silent about the shooting). Maybe it's time to deal with the "Rochevs' club", maybe promising athletes are being pinched due to nepotism.
        2. The same thing with skiers, I won’t believe that in Russia there were no better athletes than those who ran in the 2nd and 3rd stages of the women's relay.
        3. Everyone abroad knows (especially in football) that the salaries of invited athletes and coaches are frantic, but you can work slack and there is no demand (because all these sports shit who invite such coaches and athletes are only interested in how "loot" will drink ...).
        And as for the commentators, I agree, you watch hockey and you don’t understand sometimes who our commentator is rooting for, for our team or he is wildly delighted with the opponent’s team. Guberniev’s love complex developed hypertrophically, Soukalova is certainly a good athlete, but let Czech commentators talk more about her ,,,
    6. alone
      alone 18 February 2014 19: 47
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      Quote: Gleb
      the Dutch have taken everything on ice today


      You can add three more medals for 10000m to this. A phenomenal result. I'm just shocked.
    7. jjj
      jjj 18 February 2014 21: 11
      +1
      Meanwhile, Plushenko managed to take part in the anti-Russian action by CNN. On the air, he firmly said "Yes" to the question: "Were you forced to perform in an individual program?" Then, on February 17, on the air of VGTRK, he somewhat condescendingly remarked that he is the only one in Russia who is capable of fighting. And on Tuesday, February 18, in the evening in the program, Malakhov said that he would now go, insert more artificial discs into his spine and would perform at the next Olympics.
      Probably, the champion should already speak collectively: thanks, no
      1. poquello
        poquello 19 February 2014 01: 29
        +1
        Quote: jjj
        Meanwhile, Plushenko managed to take part in the anti-Russian action by CNN. On the air, he firmly said "Yes" to the question: "Were you forced to perform in an individual program?" ...

        And then you do not know the Americans, they manage to call the Syrian scumbags the beacon of democracy, schA they have Yanukovych (fucking rag) will already be a bloody tyrant. Plushenko said after the command that he was shitty, but the decision "if he will speak, he will not" have already been made by the functionaries, and everyone raided him when he was filming. Of course he is a woodpecker - be careful with theirs media, Americans are professional swindlers.
  2. Dangerous
    Dangerous 18 February 2014 07: 41
    +7
    I do not agree with the article. If the whole world, the same Dutch, are bringing something new to the conservative sport, then why shouldn't we also work in this direction? But in essence - take a look at yesterday’s women's biathlon race and it will become clear at what level our athletes and at what rivals. What are the slender girls Domracheva with Kuzmina and ours - they break an ass rifle ... Moreover, even 5 years ago, ours were also leaders
    1. mak210
      mak210 18 February 2014 08: 29
      +15
      You can not get ahead of everyone in just a minute. I do not want to say anything, but there is something in it. Our German Wolfgang Pichler forbade girls to give doping, that's the result. Forget about a healthy lifestyle, most professional athletes after retirement are practically disabled with torn ligaments, fractures and the body poisoned by long-term use of dumb drugs. Vaughn Plushenko, for the sake of golden trinkets, was pushed onto the ice (wife?) With a metal spine, like Robocop's. For the sake of what, he is a little over 30, and life ahead is very long, if you are lucky, then this is not even half.

      It was not for nothing that Stalin was against professional sports, he does not add health to the population, he only spends our money, and we sit resting in a box and for some reason answer the question about a hobby: "Sport".
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 18 February 2014 08: 34
        +3
        Professional sports is the same industry as manufacturing, medicine, etc., with its own specialists. and occupational diseases not only among athletes, but also among hairdressers and steelworkers. For this they (athletes) receive a lot of money, honor, respect and fame. And their goal is to win and be the first in competitions (as for example, for the military to create weapons that have no analogues). And if we are told that we are a great sports power, we have the right to expect from our victories, and not just participation and sympathy
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      3. mnbv199
        mnbv199 18 February 2014 09: 22
        +18
        SOCHI, Feb 14 - RIA News. Sanochnik Albert Demchenko, who won two silver medals at the XXII Olympic Games in Sochi, in response to the initiative of the LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky proposed to introduce restrictions on the number of deputy terms in the State Duma.

        Zhirinovsky, commenting on the situation with Yevgeny Plushenko, who, due to an injury, withdrew from the Olympic tournament in men's single skating, proposed amending the legislation prohibiting participation in the Olympics more than two times and setting the age limit for athletes to participate in the Games.

        "This is already a policy like this - quite cool. Zhirinovsky is a tough politician, so it is difficult for me to comment on his statements about the quota for the number of performances at the Olympics," said 42-year-old Demchenko. or the heads of the parties - no more than one term. If he already introduced this for the Olympians. "

        http://m.ria.ru/sochi2014_around_games/20140214/994948088.html
      4. siberalt
        siberalt 18 February 2014 09: 53
        +3
        It seems that Plushenko was pushed onto the ice by a glamorous little wife. She has little money. The fact is that after the Olympics, the figure skaters begin to scratch, performances for decent loot. Plushenko, even after the injury, did not let up on this event. He desperately needs a tour. Doctors persuaded, he decided to go to Israel for treatment.
        1. Lapotnik
          Lapotnik 18 February 2014 19: 35
          0
          Ha, yes there has already been a showdown. Yagudin is threatened. And Ivy rolled down to showbiz and leaked the Olympics. And for what he leaked ... xs, I will not comment.
          Well, what Ivy told CNN ... yes he went.

          PS It is strange that they do not threaten Zhirik for the same words.
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      6. Horde
        Horde 18 February 2014 18: 04
        -1
        Quote: mak210
        Forget about a healthy lifestyle, most professional athletes after retirement are practically disabled with torn ligaments, fractures and the body poisoned by long-term use of dumb drugs


        / more specifically, please, who are the disabled there after a big sport?
        No wonder Stalin was against professional sports

        the same when Stalin was against big sport?
        1. alone
          alone 18 February 2014 19: 50
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          Quote: Horde
          / more specifically, please, who are the disabled there after a big sport?



          wassat
  3. Dangerous
    Dangerous 18 February 2014 07: 43
    +12
    Yes, and from hockey players no one asks a dozen goals to score, but ours simply had to beat Slovakia in the main time! The point is not in the programmed puck, but in the elementary mood of the players, the same Americans took them 5: 1 ...
    1. kontrol
      kontrol 18 February 2014 10: 34
      +2
      motivation is not enough. I would say that it is not there, because money-motivation is rather weak, and high-performance sport without "chemistry" is impossible.
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  5. svskor80
    svskor80 18 February 2014 08: 11
    +3
    Modern sport is one of the sectors of a market economy, which means that the rules of ethics, honor and dignity are minimized. True to summer sports (especially football) this is even more true. And watching and worrying about this sight is not so exciting.
  6. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 18 February 2014 08: 48
    +5
    professional athletes are parasites. they do no good to society. clowns who pay a lot. all the time on TV screens like pop music, deputies, magazine magazines, presenters ...
  7. Toporkoff
    Toporkoff 18 February 2014 09: 06
    +11
    If we talk about the Olympic Games of recent times, then a strange stereotype has arisen in society: if a country accepts the Olympics, then it should collect almost all the medals that are played on it.

    And the Soviet Union has 39 medals in this olympiad! 16 gold! ... would be (
    1. Bersaglieri
      Bersaglieri 18 February 2014 15: 42
      +5
      The Union State of Russia and Belarus has 25, of which 10 are gold. Still, a more relevant calculation than the "virtual" USSR (as for an existing subject of international law).
  8. Normal
    Normal 18 February 2014 09: 36
    +15
    We all attach too much importance to sports of the highest achievements.
    Well, how can my life change for the better if the first Zaitseva comes to the finish line, and not Domrachev? NO HOW! Well, I’ll go free, I look like a gogol in the kitchen and .... EVERYTHING! In a couple of three days, what will it matter?
    Meanwhile, the bucks and the euro rod are leaps and bounds, so prices will climb to the top. Some economists have already openly said that population incomes have been falling for the fourth month in a row, and this is in addition to inflation that is not officially recognized and therefore even more terrible.
    But we don’t care! Not the time - the Olympics with us! Plushenko starred! Hockey players not played! Biathlon in the opera!
    Stop the panic! Shut up all-shamers!
    The whole world gasped from the opening ceremony! Young miracle on ice! Sledgemen-bobble-skeletonists! Second (so far) place in the medal standings! Your word - still the all the messengers!

    And the main star of the Russian TV in full PR on athletes.

    And to me then what? Well, except for momentary pride, they say we can!
    Now I’ll go to the grocery store and see a steadily growing number on the price tags.
    I’ll drop by a gas station and give a little more for gas than last time.
    I’ll take a bag of goods from the trunk and the back will remind me of the cost of treating the spine (even though I’m not Plushenko)

    But the broadcast time will come and having uncorked a bottle of beer, I will tear my soul in the hope that two dozen of our millionaires will push more pieces of vulcanized rubber into the net than they will.

    When WE (I) wiser then?
    1. Ivan Petrovich
      Ivan Petrovich 18 February 2014 10: 54
      +3
      here I am about it all the time. But the people seemed to dull ... bread and circuses. And after all, not only here, but all over the world ...
    2. belovur
      belovur 18 February 2014 11: 34
      +3
      And if you look at it from the other side? Should there be anything else in a person’s life besides caring for a piece of bread and butter?
      1. corn
        corn 18 February 2014 18: 55
        0
        But do not fight gladiators if 2000 years have not passed for humanity in vain.
    3. Toporkoff
      Toporkoff 18 February 2014 11: 55
      +2
      here I am about it all the time. But the people seemed to dull ... bread and circuses. And after all, not only here, but all over the world ...

      Well, how else? this is interesting and suits everyone, instead of playing hockey - watching the game. We all follow this path and do not resist. Are there many athletes on the forum? Does anyone have extra fat? so if there is why not be happy for the athletes? for those who raised their ass and put it on skis or skates?
    4. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 18 February 2014 14: 25
      +1
      Quote: Normal
      When WE (I) wiser then?


      Volodya ... The comment is just ...TINNESS..
      And how is it that you are so ... true. It even became sad.

      Quote: Normal
      And to me that from that? Well, besides momentary pride,

      Like for me.
      Well ... probably like a horse’s wedding. Head in flowers, and w. In soap ...

      Plus for the comment. hi
      1. Normal
        Normal 18 February 2014 16: 11
        0
        Quote: Z.A.M.
        And how is it that you are so ... true. It even became sad.

        And I’m so sad ...
        Hockey is starting now. There is beer.
        Just our ice squad would not add sadness.
        Pah-pah-pah on the unclean ...
        Knock knock knock on wood.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 February 2014 16: 20
          +1
          Quote: Normal
          Just our ice squad would not add sadness.

          God forbid jinx it angry
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 18 February 2014 18: 51
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            God forbid evil eye

            Not jinxed. Won 4: 0.
            BUT the game is still no.
            Ahead of the Finns. what
            Fuck knows. It will be hard.
          2. Normal
            Normal 18 February 2014 21: 40
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            jinx it


            It is not appropriate for a Christian to be superstitious.

            Me be superstitious (
            Pah-pah-pah on the unclean ...
            Knock knock knock on wood.
            ) - can.

            Sin for you!

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            God forbid

            Do not remember the Lord in the bustle.
    5. Horde
      Horde 18 February 2014 18: 18
      +1
      Quote: Normal
      how can my life change for the better if the first comes to the finish Zaitseva, and not Domrachev? NO HOW!


      Yes, you don’t need to watch the sport then, but immediately it’s better to have a beer, then vodka, and there you look and life will change ...

      Quote: Normal
      The whole world gasped from the opening ceremony


      yes, yes, this is the most important thing, and that biathlon in the pen is already annoying trifles, that not ours are winning at our stadiums and it seems that Putin built a holiday for them, and not for us ...

      Quote: Normal
      And to me then what? Well, except for momentary pride, they say we can!


      Yes, you do not care OUR ACHIEVEMENTS, but with German achievements do not care or what?

      Quote: Normal
      But the broadcast time will come and having uncorked a bottle of beer, I will tear my soul in the hope that two dozen of our millionaires will push more pieces of vulcanized rubber into the net than they will.

      When WE (I) wiser then?


      Sad life, you have a little money soaring, your back hurts, your sport doesn’t hang around, all beer grows, and beer grows. Who are you?. Thank God that others DON’T THINK like that.
      as Nikolai Nikolayevich said, SUCH FANS ARE NOT NEEDED TO US, especially, so smart.
      1. Normal
        Normal 18 February 2014 22: 01
        0
        Quote: Horde
        , but immediately better beer, then vodka,

        A rich experience?

        Quote: Horde
        Yes, you do not care. OUR ACHIEVEMENTS

        When did we switch to "you"? And what YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS are we talking about? Are you an Olympic medalist?

        Quote: Horde
        Thank God that others DON’T THINK like that.

        Well then, judging by the unmotivated and senseless hitting, you don’t think AT ALL. There is probably no such habit.

        Quote: Horde
        SUCH FANS WE DO NOT NEED

        Megalomania?

        Quote: Horde
        especially so smart.

        Yes. I guess I'm too smart for you. Annoying?

        Once again. What caused your run over?
        I left a comment on the article, something does not suit you in my opinion? Sorry, but I did not see in your boorish post that you understood my comment. Want to get a shit? Are you few opponents?
        Sorry, but I don’t get high in this tone.
        Another such collision and go to the emergency.
        1. Horde
          Horde 18 February 2014 22: 53
          0
          Quote: Normal
          And what are YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS


          we are talking about RUSSIA know this?

          Quote: Normal
          Well then, judging by the unmotivated and senseless hitting, you don’t think AT ALL. There is probably no such habit.


          I’m always mistaken, I think, but to pass by your indifferent opinion, estranged, alien to our festive mood, when the best of the best compete, when emotions strike over the edge, when EVERYTHING is rooting for OURS, it’s not just strange, but surprisingly, I’d like to ask YOU WHOSE WILL BE? The people here are all about sports about hockey, about biathlon, and you, like everything about beer, may be enough already? However, when it comes time to answer for failures and the conversation is unpleasant, then people like you with a SPECIAL point of view appear, they say, you have seen the SHOW and that's enough for you, but what about the BADA biathlon?

          Quote: Normal
          Another such collision and go to the emergency.


          where, where do you go? What is an emergency? do not scare me, you’ll go to PP laughing ...
          1. Normal
            Normal 18 February 2014 23: 32
            0
            Horde

            So you don’t understand anything. Well well .... Have to chew and put in your mouth.
            Quote: Horde
            I always think, but to pass by your indifferent opinion, estranged, alien to our festive mood, when the best of the best compete, when emotions strike over the edge, when EVERYTHING is rooting for OURS, it’s not just strange, but somehow surprising, I’d like to ask YOU WILL YOU? The people here are all about sports about hockey, about biathlon, and you, like everything about beer, may be enough already?

            But who does not give you - be ill for your health, just do not beat yourself in the chest with a hoof; you are not the only fan here and it is not for you to determine who is a patriot and who "you will be whose" You must read carefully, and not wave patriotism.
            Quote: Normal
            ... the broadcast time will come and by opening a bottle of beer I will tear my soul ...

            And it’s none of your business how and with what I am sick.
            My post was not about the Olympics at all, but about this:
            Quote: Normal
            And the main star of the Russian TV in full PR on athletes.

            While you are in a festive mood and your emotions beat over the edge, the authorities carry out very specific anti-people actions. He lowers the ruble, raises prices, bargains with the interests of athletes (where is the official protest against the actions of the American judge?) And all this under the fanfare of sports achievements.
            Quote: Normal
            Meanwhile, the bucks and the euro rod are leaps and bounds, so prices will climb to the top. Some economists have already openly said that population incomes have been falling for the fourth month in a row, and this is in addition to inflation that is not officially recognized and therefore even more terrible.

            Not getting it? Here you rinse Putin for politics and biathlon, and have a holiday for you, so you already forgot that besides the Games for which their participants will receive a worthy reward, there is real life from which you are distracted by these games. And they distract, believe me, not so that you would be happier and calmer, but so that you would not notice how the last pants will be removed from you.
            Quote: Horde
            What is an emergency? don't scare me

            Emergency is a blacklist. But I’m not going to scare you, you communicate rudely enough to send you not to the black list, but to the ban.
            And the fact that you are my like-minded person regarding the power in Russia will not stop me. I can’t stand boors.
            1. Horde
              Horde 19 February 2014 00: 09
              -1
              Quote: Normal
              So you don’t understand anything. Well well .... Have to chew and put in your mouth.


              I don’t believe you, the Olympiad is a time when WARS STOP and you need only talk about sports, your third opinion, neither for nor against, is inappropriate in this situation ...
              Quote: Normal
              To send you not to the black list but to the ban.


              and you, that the administrator, or cutter?
              1. Normal
                Normal 19 February 2014 00: 33
                -1
                Quote: Horde
                Olympiad is a time when WAR STOPS and you need only talk about sports,

                Look who's Talking.
                I understand this is all about sports?
                Horde RU February 17, 2014 19:59 | Russia is the last Europe

                do you like? just a masochist, some kind of forest, mohawk forest, if you can certainly not catch the Iroquois, if you prefer such a way of talking, then I'm bored with you ...
                .....
                Horde RU February 17, 2014 09:49 | Russia is the last Europe
                how that post snagged you bullshit, then a direct hit ...
                .....
                Horde RU February 17, 2014 09:34 | Russia is the last Europe

                you would shut up a scarecrow there is no sense from you there is no way to prove anything now you will go ...

                Well and so on

                Quote: Horde
                your third opinion, neither for nor against, is inappropriate in this situation ...

                And you? The indisputable moral authority of the site to indicate to me what is appropriate and what is not?
                Or maybe I need to not believe this when you oppose politics and Putin personally, because you do not tolerate criticism of Putin’s PR project, his desire to go down in history with the help of OI? Maybe you are a pro-Putin pro-government and just pretend to be his opponent?

                Quote: Horde
                and you, that the administrator, or cutter?

                And what? Wanted to chat with the admin about your rudeness?
    6. Chertkov Oleg
      Chertkov Oleg 18 February 2014 19: 12
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      And the smart ones have long been there. See and read N. Starikov about the causes of our problems, and not only ours. The price of the Olympics is not measured by the stomach! I also live in Russia, I also travel, buy, eat, have sores - BUT, RUSSIA has built, conducts and wins the Olympics. ALL the country looks at and remembers (nostalgic) for the Union. And with a "stomach" mood there would be neither Ilya Muromets, nor the Battle of Kulikovo, nor Suvorov, nor the Russians in Paris, nor Varyag, nor Stalingrad, nor the presence of the USSR from the Kuriles to Cuba and Antarctica. On "selfish" motives made the February Revolution and the collapse of the USSR 1991-93gg. In short, you go to the garden.
      1. Normal
        Normal 18 February 2014 22: 16
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        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        Watch and read N. Starikov about the causes of our problems, and not only ours.

        Thank you, leave the pro-power demagogues to yourself.

        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        The price of the Olympics is not measured by the stomach! I also live in Russia, I also go, buy, eat, have sores - BUT, RUSSIA built, holds and wins the Olympics. ALL the country looks and remembers (nostalgic) for the Union.
        And with a "stomach" mood there would be neither Ilya Muromets, nor the Battle of Kulikovo, nor Suvorov, nor the Russians in Paris, nor the Varyag, nor Stalingrad, nor the presence of the USSR from the Kuriles to Cuba and Antarctica.

        O DEMAGOGY! O PAPHOS! Have you served as deputy politician?

        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        In short, you go to the garden

        Well, since you are already in the garden, then you go to the far light.
  9. Normman
    Normman 18 February 2014 09: 39
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    The secret of Canadians' "failure" is simple - another continent. The time difference is such that in Canada during the competition it is either still night or already night. This is very important for the body. In general, it's time to change the Olympic motto, instead of "Faster, higher, stronger!" you need to make "Honest, more accurate, more beautiful". to establish, for example, in each of the high-performance sports a specific result (high but not prohibitive) and the one who more precisely met this result wins, did it beautifully and effectively. And it is good for health and no chemistry will help.
    1. gorsten79
      gorsten79 18 February 2014 13: 41
      +1
      Canada is on equal terms with the United States. And Australia doesn’t make a difference either. Regarding rifles, skis and everything else. The skates agree. Everyone should be equal. But here you can write indefinitely. I am here as often as on sports sites. Sorry, but boring. Regarding the Dutch with a tearing-off heel. I think everybody except the Russian team had such skates. And remember swimming costumes. A technology war. Almost like an arms race. Plus a politics. Which sports to include and which not. If at the Olympics in London there was as much sambo as judo (14 sets) .A fight would be like in Soviet times-20 medals instead of 14. Plus rhythmic gymnastics in separate forms. And synchronized swimming as in world championships - 7 sets each. That Russia would be not 4 but 1 with a very high degree of probability. Equestrianism, everyone knows how much elite horses cost. It is impossible to win the race on a Cossack at a Mercedes ... Once Soviet gunners brought their own weapons to the competition in the years 50-60. His examined, this is not a weapon, this is a device for accurate shooting. And banned. The truth, then everyone had similar ones. One small example, and there are hundreds of them .... Especially now.
      1. Bersaglieri
        Bersaglieri 18 February 2014 15: 48
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        "... Once Soviet shooters in the 50-60s brought their own weapon to the competition. They examined it, this is not a weapon, it is a device for accurate shooting. And was banned ...."

        Self-loading pistol MC 3-1 "Record"
  10. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 18 February 2014 09: 41
    +5
    And I believe that in all sports related to sports equipment (skiing, skating, sledding, etc.), you need to make sure that everyone is equal. As duelists used to have, everyone chooses a weapon for himself at the place of the duel. So here: skiing competitions began, choose skis here from the range provided. The same with skates, sleds, clubs, rifles, etc. Then the competition will be more honest, only doping will remain, but this is another topic, with this it is more complicated, the whole thing is in the development of pharmaceuticals. We need big money injections into this industry. And you can do it simply: I took doping and it became known - a prison term of 10 years for both the athlete and the coach. In another I do not see.
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    2. Lapotnik
      Lapotnik 18 February 2014 16: 12
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      About the choice of the projectile - I’ll say as an amateur, if for everyone we do the same skiing (for example, the same size / weight, etc.), then only certain athletes who can use these skis will benefit.

      I’ll say more simply - there are sports where really nothing depends on the projectile, and it can be the same, but there are sports where just because of the "identical" projectiles, athletes who have better training indicators compared to the rest can only lose because of the sports equipment.

      In an age of high achievement, when the count goes to milliseconds, and sometimes millimeters ...

      In short, it is then necessary to do separately games with an average inventory, separately with doping, separately without, indoors and outdoors, and generally on the moon)))))
  11. Lapotnik
    Lapotnik 18 February 2014 10: 06
    +2
    I think the article is partially correct. And here's why: ALL high-flying athletes - world championships, Olympic games without the support of engineering, innovative technologies will NEVER show results comparable to current ones. And at the same time - NEVER FOR ANY advances in technology, chemistry and pharmacology, a simple average athlete will not win anything worthwhile. To do this, you need the initial inclinations, genetics, so to speak.

    Regarding the fact that after a big sport, people almost cripple out ... So what? This is what they like to do, and they consciously go and this. Of course there are nuances, but this can be achieved .. to anything. And then, I know fans with injuries as well dofiga, and most of the sports did not give up.

    The Olympic Games, and championships have long grown out of children's pants. This is a dispute not only of athletes, but also of countries. And by the way, I doubt that when the games were invented, they did not use the technologies available at that time (oil for wrestlers for example), and if you remember how and why the games were conceived - politics is always present unfortunately. As long as people have ambitions, and there is no conscience.
  12. mak210
    mak210 18 February 2014 10: 08
    +2
    Quote: SRC P-15
    And you can do it simply: I took doping and it became known - a prison term of 10 years for both the athlete and the coach. In another I do not see.


    What does an athlete have to do with it? To a twelve-year-old girl, an authority coach pours a bunch of colored pills. Which one is dope? They don’t tell her, it will be revealed later, whose chemist or pharmacist is cooler.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 18 February 2014 14: 15
      +1
      Quote: mak210
      What does an athlete have to do with it? To a twelve-year-old girl, an authority coach pours a bunch of colored pills. Which one is dope? They don’t tell her, it will be revealed later, whose chemist or pharmacist is cooler.

      If the coach, in case of evidence of the use of doping, shines for a long time, he will think a hundred times before poisoning the athlete with pills. In general, the coach can be prohibited from issuing any pills, for this there is medical staff. And poisoning a 12-year-old child with illegal drugs is already a crime and there should be a prison term for him.
    2. Horde
      Horde 18 February 2014 18: 30
      +1
      Quote: mak210
      What does an athlete have to do with it? To a twelve-year-old girl, an authority coach pours a bunch of colored pills. Which one is dope? They don’t tell her, it will be revealed later, whose chemist or pharmacist is cooler.


      Are you talking about the Old Ones? she wasn’t not a girl and she understood everything, but what flew in, so I think SO IT'S PLANNED ...

      And what a biathlon in the pen is, such SPECIAL PEOPLE in biathlon are assigned prokhorov an expert in TECHNOLOGIES, so we got YOBIATLON.
      http://news.sportbox.ru/Vidy_sporta/Events/Sochi2014/spbvideo_NI433572_Al
      eksandr-Tihonov-Rossiyskiy-biatlon-prevratilsya-vy
      1. mak210
        mak210 18 February 2014 21: 24
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        Here is a piece of an interview with our great biathlete Alexander Ivanovich Tikhonov

        - Prokhorov promised to leave if Russian biathletes win less than two gold medals in Sochi-2014.
        - Yes, if there is even a drop of masculinity in it - it's time to leave now. Sometimes, working as the president of the SBR, I did not agree with the coaching staff in the relay options - and wrote my own version. But at the same time he added: “I, Alexander Tikhonov, take all the responsibility and, in case of failure, resign.” I was not afraid of this! But Prokhorov and the ё-mobile did not start before the eyes of all of Russia, and the ё-party fell apart, and the biathlon turns into an ё-biathlon. When I listen to an interview with the current leaders of the biathlon team, my soul just starts to root for the sport. And not just me! On March 7, I was at a concert of the Radchenko brothers in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Do you know what happened when I was announced and asked to go on stage? There was a real roar! They shouted to me: "Ivanitch, come back." And how President Prokhorov was watered! ..

        By the way, just yesterday I found out another interesting news. Many believe that Prokhorov allocates a lot of money for the salary of the head coach of the women's national team Wolfgang Pichler. In fact, Prokhorov paid him only the first season. Then the Russian Olympic Committee (ROC) began to do this under a contract with Gazprom, and at the same time, it compensated all Prokhorov’s expenses in the first year. Imagine, the state spends our money, taxpayer money on such an incompetent person! I have already said that it was not Pichler's fault, but the one who took it - that is, Prokhorov. The current coaching team - I mean both the men's and women's teams - is not able to bring athletes to the peak of form to the main starts. Just read the interview. What is hammering the vice-president of the RBU on sports of the highest achievements Viktor Maigurov! It seems that he worked as a janitor, and was not a biathlete.


        I believe that such problems are not only in biathlon, but everywhere, where businessmen penetrate, and they, like cockroaches, everywhere. They invented new kinds of sports: accidentally moved into a hole, came up with a name - for the Olympics. I don’t know half of these names, I pronounce it with great difficulty and they are completely inattentive, for example, curling is terrible boredom, although girls are beauties.

        The main slogan is "Faster, higher, stronger", and when the "beauty" of the jump is evaluated, and we don't notice the difference in performances, we don't need such a show.
  13. Dronza
    Dronza 18 February 2014 10: 19
    +2
    Modern professional sport is such dirt .... It's a shame. Earlier in sports, the ass was torn more out of patriotism, but now the loot is taxing ...
  14. paul72
    paul72 18 February 2014 10: 57
    +3
    USSR sports achievements have raised the bar so high that we now only have disappointments.
    the Russian hockey team will never reach the heights of the USSR national team, because For the USSR national team, most of the players were from one team - CSKA, and the question of teamwork was not so acute.
    what happened to biathlon is a big question. I believe that a foreign (especially German) coach will not rip apart for our victories, because he is a representative of a competing country
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    2. T-73
      T-73 18 February 2014 13: 35
      +3
      Guberniev was right three times when he said about Pichler, his suitcase and the route. He sent it still close, but here TV and broadcast, but we knew perfectly where. Huber then guardians (it’s not clear what the truth is, but certainly not the national team) they didn’t eat a bit with Mr. ... Mr. who you are! sit and don’t ... and, because you don’t understand nichrome. Man and balabol. But everyone saw that with the advent of Pichler, the team NEVER had stability. Some successes, often inexplicable, are contrary to rather than due to his training system. The only thing the system worked in was implicit but gradual degradation and a decrease in the overall level.
      The first three of the best Russians in the overall standings of the World Cup according to their place in the last three seasons:
      2011-2012: 06. Zaitseva. 11. Vilukhina. 16. Sleptsova
      2012-2013: 11. Zaitseva. 12. Vilukhina. 22. Glazyrina
      2013-2014: (at the moment) 06. Old (does not participate in the Olympics and questions on CM can still be), we do not count, so: 12. Vilukhina. 27. Zaitseva. 28. Romanova.
      the results of the Nations Cup for the same period can not be considered, but it’s significant that from the 1st place we are now at 4 and 3 (at the moment, mainly by the efforts of the Old Ones). Remove the old ones and we quietly sit in 5 ... 6 place. Like this.
      Convince me that Pichler is not that a cool coach, but just a good coach. Suitcase, airport, Germany.
      1. serge
        serge 18 February 2014 14: 45
        +2
        With the advent of Pichler, the team had stability - it was always stable in the ass. Why, after the first year, he did not immediately get a kick - there is a great riddle. Pest. The same as his cartridge Prokhorov.
        1. Lapotnik
          Lapotnik 18 February 2014 16: 16
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          You asked a question in your post and answered it yourself)))
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  15. pechv
    pechv 18 February 2014 12: 55
    +2
    There is one more thing - who checks for doping and whom. How to compete on an equal footing with an athlete who is medically required (vital) to take a drug that gives a significant advantage and is forbidden for everyone else. Asthmatics, however, rule :)
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 18 February 2014 14: 05
      +2
      When I see a victory in hundredths and thousandths of a second, I have one question. From the course of metrology, it is known that each measuring device has a statistical error. With that, how?
      1. Lapotnik
        Lapotnik 18 February 2014 16: 30
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        "A timing system is being installed on the bobsleigh track, which will be able to accurately measure time up to one millionth of a second.

        The maximum error is 0,1 ppm (ppm). This means that the error accumulated over ten million seconds does not exceed one second, that is, the maximum deviation is one second in 116 days. "

        PS And they have 4 more attempts.
      2. Hleb
        Hleb 18 February 2014 16: 31
        +5
        well ice hockey begins

        1. waisson
          waisson 18 February 2014 19: 05
          +1
          joke cheered a little hi
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 18 February 2014 19: 16
            +1
            Yes, he’s already tired of looking at some points at the Olympics. so at least more fun

  16. serge
    serge 18 February 2014 14: 22
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    The slogan is about sports, you - the world sounds good, but not quite right. Sport is currently part of politics and a bloodless war. To win the war, you need technical innovations, tactical tricks and the latest achievements of medicine. It is not surprising that modern sport is developing precisely in these areas.
  17. poquello
    poquello 18 February 2014 15: 01
    +3
    As a layman, I belong to the Olympiad philosophically, well, approximately as to the UN. It seems to have it, but it’s not like a thread with us. Yes, and our sports officials are important,
    on the example of the Olympic champion Swiss Yuri Podladchikov.
    Podladchikov noted that he was negotiating a speech at the Olympics in Sochi for the Russian team. “But we speak completely different languages. In short, I am snowboarding. All. If the bureaucrats need something, then I do not mind, I only need one thing - to win the Olympics. If they want to help me with this, then I am open, ”said the athlete.

    “I like it in Switzerland. I have a lot of support, a great team, I ride and win. And officials thought that I would run after them and beg to play for the Russian team. But this will never happen, ”he concluded.

    http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/2/11/672121.html
    1. T-73
      T-73 18 February 2014 21: 29
      +1
      Quote: poquello
      I ride and win. And officials thought that I would run after them and beg to play for the Russian team. But this will never happen

      well done. Victor Kahn is our champion. Today it was said on TV that the Korean President herself said that Kang is a great athlete, and did not advise the media to write nasty things about him (there some began to call him a traitor). PS. For what, bought, for that, and sold (about Kahn)
      By the way, you can recall the same Kuzmin, Domrachev in biathlon. Alas for us. Fortunately, the girls succeeded, personally I am happy for them
      in, found about Kahn, by the way:
      http://www.rg.ru/2014/02/14/korea-site.html
  18. Renat
    Renat 18 February 2014 15: 49
    +2
    Big sport has long been no longer a sport, or even a business. This is already politics. He is a big fan of biathlon for many years. What is happening in recent years does not even want to be discussed. But I’m not stopping to hurt. Huge respect for athletes and coaches. And vice versa to management. So far, no one answered what Pichler does with us? At the World Cup in Korea, he collected signatures for the disqualification of our national team from the championship, poured so much shit on us. And now it is destroying the Soviet biathlon school from the inside. What does Prokhorov think?
    1. Nikotin13
      Nikotin13 19 February 2014 03: 43
      +1
      It’s a shame for biathlon: it’s always been decent for us, but now it’s dumb ... request
    2. Nikotin13
      Nikotin13 19 February 2014 03: 43
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      It’s a shame for biathlon: it’s always been decent for us, but now it’s dumb ... request
  19. Ek.Sektor
    Ek.Sektor 18 February 2014 17: 21
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    I remember this sad moment when Sikharulidze and Berezhnaya were forced to climb the podium again, but this time with Canadians and give instead of 1 two sets of gold medals.
  20. Sirius-2
    Sirius-2 18 February 2014 19: 28
    +2
    1. Already long ago, Putin asked the unsinkable Koloskov to do something else. I think that after this Olympiad, he will ask Prokhorov ...
    2. I look at the game of the hockey team, and it becomes sad. Lads play someone else's hockey. In the sense of the Canadian, NHLovsky style. Not pretty, ineffective. There is no that combinational game, they give a "pass to the fight", or throw forward "to nobody". Is there a Soviet style of hockey anywhere? Is he able to revive the Soviet-Russian style?
    1. T-73
      T-73 18 February 2014 21: 23
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      Quote: Sirius-2
      Boys play someone else's hockey. I mean, in the Canadian, NHL style.

      They play obscure hockey at all. In the NHL, a nickel is always a hot spot, ours until all the corners of the site are covered with clubs - they do not calm down, and there the time ends. With this composition go through 1/8? And this is Bilyaletdinov’s team. And it’s not that the players are bad, the team is class, but the fact that Bilya is a ram has not even been necessary for anyone to say. What team should he play for the Olympic cycle? What kind of nonsense? Why do we hang noodles on our ears? A team at the Olympic Games is being assembled 3-4 months before the Games of the best at the moment, and who should the coach play there? Tikhonov? The player has played this season! Malkin? Can Ovi constantly play in conjunction with Datsuk at Euro Hockey? Bykov was kicked for 2nd place. And if we don’t pass the Finns now? I believe in players, but I don’t believe in a coach. To make the main intrigue which goalkeeper of the two super-twists is the whole tactic. I changed the composition of the 3rd and 4th fives with the Norgs today at 0-0 after half an hour of the game ... He will reduce his brows and look. Like what the hell ... pnya? Why not 10-0 yet? Stumble.
    2. Hleb
      Hleb 19 February 2014 06: 05
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      here is at least some kind of hockey, but not North American!
  21. mainu
    mainu 19 February 2014 00: 46
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    Sochi today is our Stalingrad. The main thing is that if we take a lot of medals, they say Putin bought OK, we take a little, they will malevolently sympathize. * So we need one victory, one for all, we won’t cost the price *
  22. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 19 February 2014 00: 56
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    But how did Mutko slam the skaters and look into the eyes of the GDP? It's nasty fucking!
  23. ddd1975
    ddd1975 19 February 2014 07: 34
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    "Cutting" in all directions - what to want from athletes if a delegation of athletes and functionaries from sports + their mistresses went to Vancouver - even some coaches were not able to provide places. And the Olympic village booze so much that there were complaints: the Russians do not allow to sleep, booze with gypsies and Cossacks.