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Saudi Arabia is preparing for a big war

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Saudi Arabia is preparing for a big war

Coming lately news from Saudi Arabia clearly indicate that Riyadh is actively preparing for a big war. Will Saudi weapon involved in the internal upheavals that will break the Arab monarchy, or the opposition of the Sunni and Shiite blocs grow into a war, or the Saudis will take part in the Syrian conflict, it is not yet clear. Nevertheless, it is obvious that the purchase of a huge amount of weapons in recent years and a sharp increase in defense spending are clear signs of a great thunderstorm in the Middle East.


Thus, the military budget of Saudi Arabia increased from 2006 of the year to 2010, from 31 billion dollars to 45 billion US dollars. In 2012, Saudi Arabia has already spent 52,5 billion US dollars for military needs. Saudi Arabia is the only Arab country that is constantly among the top ten countries with a huge military budget. The growth in military spending in Saudi Arabia, which for a rather long period has enjoyed security guarantees from the United States, is impressive. The military budget of Saudi Arabia over the past 10 years tripled.

In 2010, the Arab monarchy ordered a huge amount of weapons from the US - 60 billion dollars. The US Congress approved a deal for the supply of weapons to Saudi Arabia for this amount. As part of this deal in 2011, the United States sold a batch of F-15 fighter jets worth about 30 billion to Saudi Arabia. The Saudis will get the 84 new fighter, another 70 will be upgraded. As a result of this transaction, the Arab monarchy became the second largest operator F-15 after the United States. The roll-out ceremony of the first F-15SA fighter, manufactured for the Saudi Air Force, took place on April 30 of the year 2013.



The package of military equipment also includes the latest modifications of the helicopter AH-64D Apache Longbow Block III. Saudis should get 70 attack helicopters. In addition, Saudi Arabia plans to receive Sikorsky UH-72M Black Hawk 60 transport helicopters, Boeing AH-36i Little Bird light reconnaissance helicopter, and 6 MD Helicopters MD-12F helicopter. All the mentioned military equipment will be supplied in the latest versions and will be equipped with the latest versions of engines, surveillance systems, intelligence, self-defense, guidance and information sharing, equipped with weapons and ammunition.

In 2012, Saudi Arabia bought from the US 20 military transport aircraft HC-130J Super Hercules and 5 KC-130J tankers. The contract amount is 6,7 billion dollars. In 2013, the Ministry of Defense of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates ordered US weapons for 11 billion dollars. Saudi Arabia has made an application for 6,8 billion. Dollars and intends to get 650 cruise missiles AGM-84H SLAM-ER-class "air-surface», 973 planning responsive bombs AGM-154C JSOW, 400 anti-ship cruise missiles AGM-84L Harpoon Block II, thousands of bombs GBU-39 / B SDB and other weapons.

In 2013, Saudi Arabia ordered the United States 69 major combat tanks M1A2 Abrams. The contract value is 132 million dollars. The order of new main battle tanks is an integral part of a large-scale program to modernize the tank fleet of the army. The Saudis in 2008 began work on the modernization of the M1A1 and M1A2 tanks in the M1A2S version for Saudi Arabia. Modernization of the main battle tanks should improve their tactical and technical characteristics and increase combat effectiveness.

In 2013, the Saudi Ministry of Defense ordered heavy anti-tank BGM-71 TOW missile systems in the United States. The contract amount is estimated at 1,07 billion. Saudi Arabia made two applications. As part of the first agreement, the Saudis plan to get 9650 TOW anti-tank missiles in the 2A version, 4145 missiles in the 2B version, 91 TOW-2A and 49 TOW-2B missiles for testing, as well as related equipment, training equipment, etc. Heavy anti-tank missiles for testing, as well as related equipment, simulators, etc. get the National Guard. The second application provides for the supply of ground forces of Saudi Arabia 750 anti-tank missiles TOW in the 2B version, thousands of missiles in the 2A version, as well as seven TOW-2B and the same number of TOW-2A for testing, as well as related equipment and services.

Riyadh, especially lately, when relations with Washington became aggravated due to a change in the US position on Syria and the Iranian nuclear issue, intensified military-technical cooperation with other countries - Western European countries, Turkey, Pakistan and China. There is the possibility of Russia's participation in the modernization of the Saudi armed forces.

In October 2013, BAE Systems delivered the last pair of Eurofighter Typhoon fighters to Saudi Arabia. Now the Saudi Air Force 32 machines of this type. In addition, the 72 fighter was also ordered, they are going to replace the F-5 light multipurpose fighter jets.

Saudi Arabia intensified military cooperation with Germany. In 2013, plans were announced for the purchase of five German submarines of a modified project, Type 209, worth 2,5 billion euros. In addition, in the future, Saudi Arabia is ready to buy up to 25 submarines with a total value of more than 12 billion euros. However, due to domestic political squabbles in Germany, where some politicians strongly oppose sales of German arms to Saudi Arabia, since they do not meet “democratic standards”, the prospect of this deal is vague. For example, in Berlin, they have already refused to sell to Riyadh 600-800 of Leopard 2 main battle tanks for a total of more than 10 billion euros. Although the probability of a contract still exists.

In addition, the Saudi Ministry of Defense plans to purchase 100 patrol boats in Germany in the amount of 1,4 billion euros. It must be said that in 2013, Saudi Arabia entered into a contract with the Spanish company Rodman Polyships for the purchase of 40 small-size patrol boats for coast guard and rescue services. This boat is 11,3 m long and is designated R33 XI. The patrol boats are equipped with two 350 l engines. with. and develop maximum speed up to 50 nodes. Boats have fastenings for equipping weapons systems.

In 2012, Saudi Arabia was the main buyer of weapons in Germany. Berlin in the 2012 year issued a permit for the supply of this Arab monarchy weapons worth 1,23 billion euros. In particular, the Germans supplied Saudi border equipment, small arms and software to control flying objects, etc. Germany could earn even more on the oil monarchy if it were not for the German public’s negative reaction to the human rights situation in Saudi Arabia .

France is hoping to become another major arms supplier for Saudi Arabia. Paris does not confuse human rights problems, but so far Riyadh is in no hurry to buy French weapons. So, at the beginning of 2014, the deal on the purchase by Saudi Arabia of short-range air defense systems, the Crotale NG, was disrupted. The French strongly hoped to sign a contract for the sale of short-range air defense systems manufactured by Thales. The contract amount was estimated at 4 billion euros.

In December, 2013, the news came that Saudi Arabia was ready to allocate 3 billion to Lebanon to buy weapons from France. The type of weapons supplied is not specified. Paris also hopes that Riyadh will buy several new frigates to replace the old and submarines (especially if it does not work with Germany).

At the same time, Saudi Arabia is developing military-technical cooperation with Turkey and Pakistan. In 2013, the Saudis expressed interest in buying the Turkish Anka UAV and the Altay main battle tank. At the end of January 2014, there was news about the talks between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan on the supply of Riyadh's new main Al-Khalid battle tanks and JF-17 Thunder fighter jets. It was also noted that after the purchase of Pakistani weapons, Riyadh could reconsider its attitude to the Chinese military equipment, since the Al-Khalid tank and the JF-17 aircraft were developed by Pakistan together with China. As a result, Saudi Arabia may in the future begin to more actively buy weapons from China. In addition, buying weapons from Pakistan is a political gesture. Islamabad needs financial support, Riyadh provides it. Thus, the union of Riyadh and Islamabad will be strengthened. So, rumors have repeatedly appeared that in the event of the appearance of nuclear weapons with Iran, Pakistan will help Saudi Arabia to become a nuclear power.

Another ally of Saudi Arabia in the region is Egypt. Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are ready to pay for arms purchases by Egypt. Cairo, especially in connection with the revolutionary situation in the country, has no money for the purchase of new weapons. Previously, the United States provided great assistance to Egypt. Recently, however, relations between Washington and Cairo have deteriorated, as has Riyadh’s relations with Washington. According to media reports, Russia and Egypt initialed a contract for the supply of weapons and military equipment totaling more than 3 billion dollars. Cairo is interested in the supply of fighters, combat helicopters, air defense systems, coastal ship complexes and small arms.

Why does Egypt need a weapon? The answer is simple. The country is in a systemic crisis. In an environment where the entire region is gradually slipping into a state of permanent chaos and war, Cairo will sooner or later have to conduct a “small victorious war” on one or several fronts. The main problem that in the future could plunge the 85-million country into chaos is the question of fresh water. Egypt will have to fight over the waters of the Nile with the countries located in the upper reaches of the great river. In addition, there is a scenario of attack on Libya covered by distemper, which will allow to capture the Libyan huge underground reservoirs of fresh water. Do not forget the problem of Palestine. The outlook for Israel in the turmoil that covers the Middle East is vague. Egypt is unlikely to stay away from this conflict.

14 February 2014, the news about another large-scale purchase of weapons by Saudi Arabia. Riyadh bought armored vehicles for a total of 10 billion US dollars with an option for another 3 billion dollars. The contract for the supply of armored vehicles was awarded to the Canadian division of the American concern General Dynamics - General Dynamics Land Systems-Canada (GDLS). Types of contracted technology are not disclosed. Contract validity - 14 years. Canadian Foreign Trade Minister Ed Fast said that this is the largest military export contract in stories country. GDLS spokesman Ken Yamashita said that, under the terms of the contract, the company does not have the right to disclose the number or type of vehicles ordered under this agreement, but these “will be new cars” and the first cars will come off the assembly line in 2016.

It should be noted that the company GDLS is one of the world's largest manufacturers of wheeled armored vehicles. The company produces armored vehicles for the US and Canadian armed forces of the Piranha series with the wheel formula 8х8 - they are known under the designations LAV-I (LAV-25), LAV-II, LAV-III, etc. For the US Army, the variation LAV-III is produced - Stryker armored vehicles. In addition, in the last decade for the US Armed Forces, the company has been producing various MRAP-class armored vehicles. Currently, the British are producing light armored vehicles Ocelot.

Since the beginning of 1990 for Saudi Arabia, GDLS has supplied large quantities of LAV-25 armored vehicles in various modifications. It was delivered around 2500 armored vehicles. In 2009, the last major contract worth 2,2 billion was concluded. According to him, General Dynamics Land Systems-Canada from 2011 has been supplying the National Guard of Saudi Arabia 724 armored vehicles based on LAV-25 in various modifications. In 2011, an additional contract was signed in 350 million for the supply of the National Guard of Saudi Arabia with 82 machines based on LAV-25.

The National Guard operates in parallel with the traditional army, as a counterweight to the Land Forces of the Kingdom controlled by the royal family. Members of tribes that traditionally support the rule of the Saudi dynasty are recruited into it. The National Guard has about 200 thousand people, divided into infantry and mechanized brigades, special units and military police. In 2013, the National Guard was transformed into a ministry. The tasks of the new ministry are to assist the Ministry of Internal Affairs in maintaining security, combating terrorism and protecting vital facilities in the kingdom, and, if necessary, supporting the Ministry of Defense.

Even more interesting is the news of the purchase by Riyadh of China of DF-21 medium-range ballistic missiles. On this, referring to sources from American intelligence, according to Claudio Gallo in an article published on the website La Stampa. Rumors about the purchase by Riyadh of medium-range ballistic missiles have been going on for many years. The American magazine Newsweek reported that Riyadh, with the help of the CIA, got these missiles back in 2007 year. The basic version of the DF-21 rocket has a range of 1700 km with a drop weight in 600 kg. It should also be noted that there is data on China's shipments of Dongfeng 60А missiles to 3 with a range of 2800 km (up to 4000 km with lightweight warhead) to Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia received these missiles in 1987 year. These missiles became the basis of the Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Forces. In 2013, the new headquarters building and academy of the Strategic Rocket Forces in Riyadh was solemnly opened.

At the same time, it should be noted that the Saudis have problems in servicing military equipment. Numerous foreign experts help them in this. The main role is played by the Americans, there are experts from Western Europe, the Chinese are watching over ballistic missiles. There are also many Pakistani warriors in the kingdom. It is possible that due to the expansion of the military-technical cooperation of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, their number will increase. We must also recall the problems in the development of the Navy of Saudi Arabia. Saudis are primarily residents of the desert, the sea is not their element. Therefore, with a large-scale upgrade fleet the participation of foreign experts is inevitable.

And besides, the Saudis have almost no combat experience. Their armed forces are not capable. In 2010, Saudi troops took part in Operation Blasted Land against the rebels in Yemen. Yemeni tribal armed groups were better prepared for war than the Saudis. In March 2011, Riyadh sent a limited military-police contingent to Bahrain and prevented the victory of the next Arab revolution in this monarchy. The Saudis prefer to act with the hands of numerous mercenaries and terrorist, Islamist movements.

What is Saudi Arabia for military power?

As you know, the United States for several decades are the guarantor of the military security of the Arab monarchy. Saudi Arabia actively supported the Americans in the struggle against the Soviet Union, including during the Afghan campaign. Riyadh was the organizer and sponsor of various radical Islamist movements within the framework of the “Islam against the USSR” program. After the collapse of the USSR, this program was continued as “Islam against the Russians”.

Riyadh supported Washington in the course of a project to “modernize the Near and Middle East”, which envisages the collapse of a number of secular states into a larger number of state entities that are easy to manipulate. In addition, this project should create a huge hotbed of instability on the borders of the European Union, Russia, China and India. Thus, the United States strikes at its main competitors, the states-civilizations, while maintaining the positions of the “island of stability” in a sea of ​​chaos and getting the opportunity to build its New World Order. The project has successfully started. Sudan is ruined, Libya and Mali are in a state of permanent chaos, Egypt is reeling, there is a war in Syria, and the conflict in Iraq is actively developing. Under the threat of the republic of Central Asia.

However, the implementation of this plan has for some time been contrary to the aspirations of Riyadh. With the further growth of chaos in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia is also waiting for the collapse of several state entities. In this case, the ruling dynasty threatens the death or loss of power over most of the territory, with the corresponding loss of a significant part of world influence and wealth. It does not suit the Saudis. They cherish plans for the creation of the “Great Caliphate”, where Saudi Arabia and the Cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Persian Gulf (GCC) should play the role of a nucleus uniting a significant part of the Arab and Islamic world. The Great Caliphate should become one of the leading players on the world stage. Therefore, in recent years, the GCC has intensified integration processes, including in the defense sphere.

The military buildup completely fits into Riyadh’s plans to build a caliphate. A lot of weapons are needed to impress the Arab world, to create the backbone of the future caliphate forces.

Another serious move that should make Saudi Arabia the leader of the Arab world is getting nuclear weapons. Recently, news about the desire of Riyadh to get a “sticky club” appear more and more often. So, February 15 has the news that Saudi Arabia is ready to become a nuclear power if the United States and its allies allow Iran to continue enriching uranium.

At the official level, it was announced that Riyadh will actively develop the nuclear energy program. By 2030, they plan to build 16 reactors, and by 2032, they will introduce 17 GW of nuclear power. It is possible that Russian specialists will take part in this project. Negotiations on this topic are underway. Riyadh wants to get a full cycle of nuclear fuel production. For this purpose, the Arab monarchy welcomes specialists in atomic energy.

Prince Turki ibn-Faisal Al Saud, former chief of intelligence of Saudi Arabia, at a recent security conference in Munich, said that if Tehran was allowed to enrich uranium, Riyadh would respond accordingly. In 2013, the former head of the Israeli military intelligence, Amos Yadlin, said at a press conference in Sweden that, if Tehran would have an atomic bomb, "the Saudis will not wait a single month." “They will go to Pakistan and buy everything they need,” said Yadlin. Later in Pakistan, reports appeared in Western media stating that Islamabad was ready to transfer nuclear charges prepared by Pakistani experts to Riyadh. However, an unpleasant aftertaste remained. Obviously, sooner or later Saudi Arabia will become a nuclear power if it is not destroyed by this time.

Currently, Riyadh has developed a stormy activity, knocking together teams of mercenaries, supporting the Islamists in Syria and Iraq, where there is a real war in the province of Anbar. Saudis are planning to form a whole army of foreign mercenaries. This army is planned to be used in the fight against opponents in the region and, above all, in aggression against Syria. Apparently, the agenda and the collapse of Iraq. Islamists in Iraq have captured another city - Suleiman Beck, located in the north of the country in 160 km from Baghdad. In December, 2013 gangs took Fallujah and Ramadi. There is an opinion that the Saudis are ready to completely change the balance of forces in the region in favor of the Sunni bloc, having developed with the help of their mercenaries success against Syria and Hezbollah in Lebanon, as well as creating a Sunni state entity in Iraq.

The main opponent of Saudi Arabia in the region is Iran. In November, 2013, even the opinion was expressed that Tel Aviv and Riyadh were ready to forget about mutual hostility and agreed on joint actions against Tehran. In particular, it was reported about the readiness of the Saudis to give Israel their airspace if the Israelis want to strike at Iran.

Anyway, the region continues to slide into chaos and teeters on the brink of a big war. The militarization of Saudi Arabia and other countries in the region is a serious sign of the coming regional war.
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  1. mirag2
    mirag2 17 February 2014 08: 12 New
    +7
    The militarization of the SA is at an incredible pace.
    And what are Middle Eastern players excited about Iranian weapons (I)?
    Afraid of losing leadership.
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 17 February 2014 08: 24 New
      +3
      Afraid of losing leadership.
      They are afraid of losing power, and from the indigenous people of the SA.
      1. Romn
        Romn 17 February 2014 08: 32 New
        28
        Persians in more than Arabs know how to fight, living on the brink of war for more than a dozen years, unlike the Saudis bought. and Iran is a much more united country than all the Arabian monarchies combined. The main thing is not to be late and help Iran, by the same C-300, although it is temporary, not particularly reliable, but so far our only support, we cannot allow it to be lost ...
        1. Basileus
          Basileus 17 February 2014 11: 18 New
          11
          Historically, it turned out the opposite. The Persians are good organizers, but they almost always fought with the wrong hands.

          In any case, fortunately for us (and the whole world), Iran and Turkey still claim leadership in the BV and the Islamic world. Given that there is still a small but vicious Israel, the Saudis will have big problems on the path to world domination. At least for me, all of the listed candidates are much prettier than the fanatical Arabian monkeys with a grenade.
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 17 February 2014 17: 30 New
            +3
            Yes, it seems the Saudis are pumping up (like Hitler). At the first stage, they will conquer the BV. Well, on the second, as always: Get up! The country is huge! Have time to rearm?
        2. alone
          alone 17 February 2014 22: 31 New
          +2
          Quote: Romn
          Persians in more than Arabs know how to fight, living on the brink of war for more than a dozen years, unlike the Saudis bought. and Iran is a much more united country than all the Arabian monarchies combined.

          You are mistaken. Iran actually lost the war to Iraq (The war ended then. When the Iraqi forces again invaded Iran and it was almost impossible to stop them due to the defeat of the southern flank of the Iranian army)
          Iran’s cohesion is also relative in nature, since the country is multinational and there are ethnic tensions (Persians - Azerbaijanis, Persians-Kurds, Persians-Balochians, as well as Iranian Arabs). It is still unknown how people behave who even do not learn their own language .
      2. Sirocco
        Sirocco 17 February 2014 14: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: Horst78
        They are afraid of losing power, and from the indigenous people of the SA.

        Yes, they are not afraid to lose power, because Saudi Arabia in practice is a despotic autocracy with an openly “absolute monarch”. Deprived of even the pretense of a representative form of government, this regime brutally suppresses the discontent not only of its own subjects, but also plays an active role in repressions against citizens of other countries, both within its own country and abroad. Such despot democrats are not afraid of losing power, I suspect they are preparing a springboard for allies from the west, Saudi Arabia (the army of the SA is more than 200 thousand people) can act only in a coalition with the United States, Britain, Turkey and Japan. As an independent player in such a direction as Syria Iran, I do not consider the SA.
      3. AVV
        AVV 18 February 2014 15: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: Horst78
        Afraid of losing leadership.
        They are afraid of losing power, and from the indigenous people of the SA.

        To the Saudis, the support of the states still comes back, they will merge them at the first opportunity !!!
    2. denson06
      denson06 17 February 2014 10: 46 New
      +3
      They have a lot of money from oil - the pace of militarization is crazy ... not good ...
      1. Arhj
        Arhj 17 February 2014 12: 20 New
        +6
        Quote: denson06
        They have a lot of money from oil - the pace of militarization is crazy ... not good ...

        Not good, especially when you consider that they focused mainly on offensive weapons. Only, frankly, the ability to fight and the fighting spirit of the Saudi army, which already forgot when it took part in real hostilities, is doubtful. It may well be that having got involved in a war with the same Iran, the Saudis will significantly increase the military power of the latter due to trophies.
        1. pawel57
          pawel57 17 February 2014 14: 02 New
          +4
          There are no offensive or defensive weapons. This is the definition of politicians and journalists for blurring issues, or misunderstanding military affairs.
        2. Nickvgg
          Nickvgg 17 February 2014 22: 36 New
          +1
          I would like to know the Saudi human resources potential in the event of a protracted war. Also, the reliability and continuity of the supply of ammunition and spare parts for purchased equipment. I would like to know when the Saudis organized and conducted combined-arms operations (because what I know was cavalry raids along with Laurence of Arabia with camel drafts). The presence of objective answers will be able to determine the ability of the Saudis to any conflicts.
          1. alone
            alone 17 February 2014 23: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Nickvgg
            I would like to know the Saudi human resources potential in the event of a protracted war. Also, the reliability and continuity of the supply of ammunition and spare parts for purchased equipment. I would like to know when the Saudis organized and conducted combined-arms operations (because what I know was cavalry raids along with Laurence of Arabia with camel drafts). The presence of objective answers will be able to determine the ability of the Saudis to any conflicts.


            Start Iran today’s war against SA. In an hour there will be the whole world against Iran. SA is the main Ally and dominant force of the Arabian Peninsula.
            And yet. Do not forget that the main shrines of Islam are located on the territory of S. Any attack means a war against the shrines of Islam. And this automatically means the performance of all Muslim countries against Iran. In this situation, nothing will help Iran.
            1. Artem13
              Artem13 18 February 2014 02: 37 New
              +2
              Is the whole world Azerbaijan? When was Islam a united front? Never. When America shot the Pakistani border checkpoint on the border with Afghanistan, and did it on purpose, where were you all brave? The Saudis have Mecca and Medina, and the rest of the territory at least sr .. on it. So Iran can fight with the SA, and save the CA only America if it wants.
        3. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 04 New
          0
          I completely agree.
      2. Luzhichanin
        Luzhichanin 17 February 2014 14: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: denson06
        not good ..

        Of course, it’s not good, they’re not arming themselves, but future Islamists on our borders.
      3. Firebox
        Firebox 17 February 2014 14: 53 New
        -2
        you campaign are far behind life) or is it such misinformation in Russia? from oil, only 4% of total income
        1. Basileus
          Basileus 17 February 2014 15: 51 New
          +2
          And what, does the CA produce something so that it overlaps their oil revenues?
          1. Firebox
            Firebox 20 February 2014 22: 46 New
            0
            Tourism and other industries, they practically do not produce anything
      4. Very old
        Very old 17 February 2014 22: 05 New
        +2
        Butt me a mosquito! SAUDI - WARRIORS? I have not heard. It is known: the casket just opens - Uncle Sam
    3. Arhj
      Arhj 17 February 2014 12: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: mirag2
      The militarization of the SA is at an incredible pace.

      And along the way, the Saudis are gaining allies, financing the purchase of weapons by their neighbors, thereby killing three birds with one stone: they drive the neighbors into debt to themselves, make it difficult for them to act on a party other than their own, and help the West sell their weapons.
      1. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 06 New
        0
        I completely agree.
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 17 February 2014 21: 34 New
      +2
      And what is surprising is that the Saudis are arming themselves. Who would they be if not for pin dosia? The United States is profitable to pay for oil weapons. As they were told, they do so. And the situation is changing. Not everyone in BV likes their policies. They can shlopotat.
      1. alone
        alone 17 February 2014 22: 27 New
        +1
        . The militarization of Saudi Arabia and other countries in the region is a serious sign of an impending regional war.


        Actually, starting from 1990, a war has been going on in the region. Moreover, in full swing. And Samsonov is still looking for a serious hint)
      2. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 09: 53 New
        0
        But what happens in Denmark by cruelty http://www.delphinidae.ru/publ/rodina_princa_datskogo_koshmar_dlja_delfinov_i_ki
        tov / 11-1-0-129
    6. Su24
      Su24 18 February 2014 05: 05 New
      +1
      If the war begins there, then it will become not regional, but world.
      1. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 06 New
        0
        Useful links

        Nikolai Starikov
        About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
        About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
        A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

        As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
        Very detailed about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: S. V. Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Read MUST each: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
        What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
  2. dimarm74
    dimarm74 17 February 2014 08: 21 New
    13
    Saudis fiddled ... apparently tired of their quiet life ... I want to fight, let them fight ...
  3. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 17 February 2014 08: 23 New
    14
    It’s Che, Mikhalych!))) As soon as friends from Tel Aviv and Washington did things not comme il faut,
    Riyadh began to convulsively bend their fingers, considering how many there would be anyone who wants to bill them in the near future)
  4. ikken
    ikken 17 February 2014 08: 31 New
    10
    It is reassuring only that (and the article indirectly says about it) that there are no fighters from the Arabs. Against a more or less organized adversary with at least average moral-volitional qualities, they will not pull. Especially not the warriors pampered by oil wealth Saudis.

    But for Kubinka (and not only) there, under the guise (when it starts), it will be possible to get something to study, so to speak, the best practices of the decaying west =)
  5. NOMADE
    NOMADE 17 February 2014 08: 37 New
    10
    A serious "hodgepodge", moreover, weapons from different countries, different schools and levels (USA, FRANCE, ENGLAND, GERMANS, CHINA, TURKEY, etc.). How are they going to serve all this, in the event of a long turmoil? It seems that they are simply accumulating strength, so that everyone would know that they have a lot of weapons and attack. Ay Yay, not worth it! That is, in fact, it is a weapon of "containment".
    1. Gray 43
      Gray 43 17 February 2014 09: 17 New
      +8
      Chaos in the supply of troops necessary will be the cause of defeat in a conflict of any scale
    2. Fin
      Fin 17 February 2014 10: 14 New
      +3
      Quote: NOMADE
      It seems that they are simply accumulating strength, so that everyone would know that they have a lot of weapons and attack. Ay Yay, not worth it! That is, in fact, it is a weapon of "containment".

      This is a way to appease leading countries through arms orders, just in case. They themselves will not fight, and they are not capable. Technique in the hands of a savage - a piece of metal. But they are always ready to help with modern weapons and equipment. Around themselves will always maintain chaos so that no one builds up strength and breaks ....
    3. Basileus
      Basileus 17 February 2014 11: 19 New
      +2
      Most of the weapons are NATO. And there are none, and standards, at least in some areas.
    4. ed65b
      ed65b 17 February 2014 11: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: NOMADE
      A serious "hodgepodge", moreover, weapons from different countries, different schools and levels (USA, FRANCE, ENGLAND, GERMANS, CHINA, TURKEY, etc.). How are they going to serve all this, in the event of a long turmoil? It seems that they are simply accumulating strength, so that everyone would know that they have a lot of weapons and attack. Ay Yay, not worth it! That is, in fact, it is a weapon of "containment".

      I also thought about this, but it’s also to equip them all with people, you need to bring them down to suited units, cut tasks. And when to do this, there is a competition where the yacht is longer and the palaces are higher.
      1. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 08 New
        0
        I completely agree. wink laughing
    5. pawel57
      pawel57 17 February 2014 14: 10 New
      +2
      I am also interested in this question, why is there such a strong spread from the USA, Europe, the Russian Federation to China and Pakistan. Maybe they want to fight in different directions and foreign territory, with the hands of mercenaries and use weapons as they spread in this country.
  6. makarov
    makarov 17 February 2014 08: 41 New
    +6
    "However, the implementation of this plan for some time runs counter to the aspirations of Riyadh. With further growth of chaos in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia will also face collapse into several state entities. At the same time, the ruling dynasty threatens the death or loss of power over most of the territory, with the corresponding loss a significant portion of global influence and wealth. "
    The author said all that is needed. Nothing more to add.
    1. a52333
      a52333 17 February 2014 09: 25 New
      +9
      Yes, the author said nothing. He outlined the situation and put a question mark.

      Arabs do not know how to fight, they are used to a well-fed life, the weighted average nation is whitewashed and with sophisticated modern technology is not even on your mother, but even weaker.
      Fighting with an external enemy at such rear areas as theirs is like death. I agree with NOMADE RU Today, 08: 37
      in fact, it is a weapon of "containment".
      1. TT68
        TT68 17 February 2014 13: 34 New
        +4
        Arabs do not know how to fight, but only: "The Saudis plan to form an entire army of foreign mercenaries"
        And among them you can recruit not only cannon fodder, but also specialists. True, moral-volitional qualities will not be so hot, but with AGGRESSIVE military operations, this is not so significant! Yes, and missiles (krill and ballistic) are, by hu !!!
        And if the main competitor (enemy) to the Saudis is Iran, then, without having a common border, who will be the first to be targeted by the sheikhs? In my opinion, Iraq. And there it is already burning! Something reminds of 1939. And a passive position is not an option!
  7. NOMADE
    NOMADE 17 February 2014 08: 41 New
    +5
    Quote: ikken
    It is reassuring only that (and the article indirectly says about it) that there are no fighters from the Arabs. Against a more or less organized adversary with at least average moral-volitional qualities, they will not pull. Especially not the warriors pampered by oil wealth Saudis.

    But for Kubinka (and not only) there, under the guise (when it starts), it will be possible to get something to study, so to speak, the best practices of the decaying west =)


    Soon, they will start arming their boogeys, ferrari, lamborghini, etc. - managed modules with Browning or ATGM TOW laughing
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 17 February 2014 12: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: NOMADE
      Soon, they will start arming their boogeys, ferrari, lamborghini, etc. - managed modules with Browning or ATGM TOW

      And on camels, a heavy machine gun will look pretty menacing.
      If a camel is a ship, a hundred camels are a fleet. wink
      1. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 10 New
        0
        And a thousand camels are an armada. lol
  8. scientist
    scientist 17 February 2014 08: 45 New
    +6
    It is unlikely that the Saudis will fight themselves, there are too few of them and are used to a very good life. Yes, during the outbreak of the war in Syria, they tried to hire an American army to invade, but failed. Now they are trying to create armies of mercenaries and arm their poor allies as much as possible for a war on foreign territory, while creating a powerful security ring around themselves.
  9. Yaroslav
    Yaroslav 17 February 2014 08: 48 New
    +2
    The Saudis are well aware that soon the war can take the opposite direction, of course, after the victory of Assad, and victory is just around the corner. This is precisely evidenced by their large-scale weapons.
    1. ale-x
      ale-x 17 February 2014 09: 19 New
      +2
      Believe me, a war in the opposite direction should suddenly happen, then very soon. Syria is in ruins, the Syrian people, I think, will not want to continue the massacre. Need a rest. And there is a lot of work to be done.
  10. calocha
    calocha 17 February 2014 09: 10 New
    +2
    The Saudis understood that Assad would stand up and decided to “help” the brothers in the faith (Sunnis). They are afraid of themselves, but the pack — with the USA, France and other vultures — completely! Then they will clear Iraq from the Shiites so that Iran can specify the place, have a little rest ..together they will all fall upon Iran. If Egypt declares support for Syria, this will cool the ardor of the Saudis.
  11. Arbatov
    Arbatov 17 February 2014 09: 19 New
    +6
    I will allow myself to slightly rephrase Kalashnikov, who said that he was not shooting an automatic machine, a man was shooting. So, not only weapons are fighting, people are fighting. Personal experience says that Arabs are not fighters in the usual sense. Here's what flush to organize: whether there is an ambush, undermining which, to undermine the che-thread - yes, this is at a high level. Well, still have warm corpses to fuck. But the fierce battle - these guys are not for the Arabs.
    So let them buy, since a lot of money. Maybe even learn how to get out of this technique.
  12. AGM-114
    AGM-114 17 February 2014 09: 24 New
    +5
    But Israel will win anyway.
    1. pawel57
      pawel57 17 February 2014 14: 18 New
      +1
      that's for sure. Their swaras just like burry ears stick out.
  13. rugor
    rugor 17 February 2014 09: 25 New
    0
    There is the possibility of Russia's participation in the modernization of the Saudi armed forces


    How to crush the Saudi armed forces did not have to. Not for us so our weapons.
  14. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 17 February 2014 09: 33 New
    +4
    we wouldn’t plunge into this batch
  15. mountain
    mountain 17 February 2014 09: 43 New
    +2
    The Saudis are stuck in full and during the debriefing she will get the most. And the main thing is what to profit from. Hare build well-being on the blood of others.
  16. Yeraz
    Yeraz 17 February 2014 10: 06 New
    +5
    Yes, the nomenclature is impressive. Especially all new ...
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 17 February 2014 19: 58 New
      +1
      Interestingly, do they have repair facilities for all this stuff? recourse
      1. alone
        alone 17 February 2014 22: 33 New
        0
        Quote: dr.star75
        Interestingly, do they have repair facilities for all this stuff?


        You think they spend so much on foreign weapons in order to simply break them down and throw them to the side. All of the above listed services are included in the contracts. Repair is done by the manufacturer’s specialists.
        1. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 12 New
          -1
          Removed the minus. wink
  17. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 17 February 2014 10: 15 New
    +9
    So what does the Saudi army have today? The arsenal is pretty impressive:
    Air Force:
    83 American Boeing F-15 Eagle fighters (65 F-15C, 18 F-15D), 84 were delivered, but 1 was lost in the crash on 02.12.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX);

    70 Boeing F-15S Strike Eagle fighter-bombers, 68 of them are planned to be upgraded to Boeing F-15SA Strike Eagle
    32 Eurofighter Typhoon (24 F.2, 8 UBS T.3A), total 72 ordered, are intended to replace the F-5 Freedom Fighter II and Tornado ADV fighter-interceptors;

    87 Panavia Tornado IDS fighter bomber;

    24 Panavia Tornado ADV fighter interceptors;
    about 90 Northrop F-5 Freedom Fighter II (53 F-5E, 37 F-5F), of which 53 are in storage. A total of 110 aircraft were purchased, one was shot down on 13.02.1991/XNUMX/XNUMX by Iraqi air defense systems.

    Planned US delivery of another 84 Boeing F-15SA Strike Eagle
    29 TCB BAe Hawk Mk. 65, which can be used as light attack aircraft;
    5 Aircraft AWACS Boeing E-3 Sentry, it is planned to purchase another 5.
    3 Airbus A330MRTT tanker aircraft; a total of 6 were ordered;
    5 Boeing KE-3A tanker aircraft to be replaced by the A330MRTT;
    7 KC-130H refueling aircraft.
    5 more KC-130J tankers ordered.
    3 reconnaissance aircraft Boeing RE-3A.
    Thus, the Saudi Air Force has a numerical and qualitative superiority over its main rival in the Iranian Air Force region. The American press notes a fairly decent training of Saudi pilots. So, on June 5, 1984, a battle broke out over the Persian Gulf between a pair of Saudi F-15s and two F-4s of the Iranian Air Force. The battle took place at short range using vigorous maneuvers and ended with the destruction of one Phantom rocket. According to pilots from Saudi Arabia, the second F-4 was also hit by UR and was probably destroyed. On January 19, 1991, Saudi Arabian Air Force captain Ayhid Salah El Shamrani managed to shoot down two Iraqi Mirage F.15FQs on the F-1.
    It has Saudi Arabia and its missile forces, the Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Forces, They are armed with 40 launchers of Chinese medium-range ballistic missiles (2300 km) DF-3 (Dongfeng-3) and DF-3A (2800 km), for which it is equipped 12 starting positions. The question is being considered of acquiring promising Pakistani Gauri ballistic missiles with a firing range of 2 km or Chinese DF-300 ballistic missiles.

    Chinese medium-range ballistic missiles DF-3 (Dongfeng-3)
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 17 February 2014 10: 43 New
      +5
      Ground forces (80 thousand people)
      1095 tanks:
      315 M1A2 Abrams, 69 upgraded to the M1A2S standard;

      460 M-60A1 / A3;
      320 AMX-30, in the ranks of 100-200, the rest are in storage.
      The delivery of 700 German Leopard-2A6 is expected
      Armored vehicles:
      400 American BMP M2A2 Bradley;

      600 French AMX-10R;
      36 German wheeled TPz Fuchs, in the version of the RHZ machine;
      3000 American M-113 armored personnel carriers, 369 of them have been modernized in Turkey;
      300 French wheeled armored personnel carriers Panhard M3;
      579 American armored personnel carriers V-150 Commando;
      1117 LAV / Piranha II in 10 versions, 132 more ordered;
      20 Brazilian armored personnel carriers EE-11 Urutu;
      100 wheeled armored personnel carriers of own development Al-Fahd;
      50 wheeled armored personnel carriers of own development Al Kaser;
      An unknown amount of proprietary APCs Der 'Al-Jazeera, Al-Masmak, Ashibl-1/2.
      300 French BRM Panhard AML-60/90;
      Over 700 LAV-III shipments expected from Canada; from France 100-200 MRAP Nexter Aravis.
      72 Brazilian MLRS Astros II
      966 artillery pieces (534 self-propelled, 432 towed):
      64 Chinese 155mm SG PLZ-45,
      90 French 155mm SG AMX-GCT,

      100 French 155mm wheeled SG CEASAR,

      280 American 155mm SG M109A2,

      72 Italo-German 155 mm BG FH-70,
      120 American 155 mm BG M198,
      140 American 105 mm BG M102,
      100 American 105 mm BG M-101A1.
      About 400 mortars (200 MO-120-RT-61, unknown quantity of 120 mm 2R2M, 106,7 mm M30, 60 mm M-224 and Brandt LR);
      2400 PU ATGMs (FGM-148 Javelin, RBS 56 Bill 2, M47 Dragon, BGM-71 / С / D / Е TOW / ITOW / TOW-2 / TOW-2А, HOT / HOT-2, Swingfire, Vickers Vigilant, SS .11, AGM-114 Hellfire)
      50 106-mm recoilless guns M-40;
      Air defense assets are represented by 900 short-range air defense systems Shahin (Krotal) and 1 MANPADS (000 Stinger and 500 Red Ay).

      Army Aviation:
      12 AH-64D Apache,

      13 Bell 406CS Combat Scout
      8 Sikorsky S-70A1L Black Hawk,
      37 Sikorsky UH-60L Black Hawk.
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 17 February 2014 11: 04 New
        +6
        Air Defense Forces:
        144 launchers SAM Patriot,

        128 launchers MIM-23V "Advanced Hawk",
        141 self-propelled launcher launcher "Shahin",
        40 SPU "Krotal",
        270 anti-aircraft guns and installations: 128 35-mm ZRL "Oerlikon", 50 30-mm ZSU AMX-30SA, 92 20-mm ZSU M163 "Volcano".
        In warehouses there are 70 40-mm anti-aircraft guns L-70.

        30 mm ZSU AMX-30SA
        Navy:
        18 warships:
        7 frigates:
        3 French types La Fayette,

        4 built in France Al Madinah. Displacement 2610 tons, 8 missile launchers "Otomat", 8 SAM "Krotal", 1x100 mm AU, 2-40 mm AU, TA, helicopter.

        4 corvettes, American type "Badr", built in 1981-1983. Displacement 1380 tons, 8 anti-ship missiles "Harpoon"

        7 minesweepers.
        It is planned to purchase 2 British destroyers Type 45 and 2 American Arleigh Burke. Negotiations are currently underway.
        75 combat boats (nine missile, eight landing, 52 patrol). The auxiliary fleet is represented by two supply vessels, eight small transports, 13 tugboats and a royal yacht.
        Naval aviation has 31 helicopters (including 21 combat): 19 AS-565 (15 anti-submarine, four search and rescue) and 12 AS-332B / F (six are equipped with Exoset anti-ship missiles, six are transport).
        The Marine Corps employs 3 people, one regiment of double-battalion personnel and is armed with 000 armored personnel carriers BMR-140R.
        Coast Defense troops include four batteries of the Otomat mobile coastal missile systems.
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 17 February 2014 13: 53 New
          +1
          Roman, thanks for the information. It is clear that the army of the SA is not inferior to Israel in equipment, and surpasses Iran and Turkey. Contracts for the supply of military equipment are carried out very quickly.
          1. Roman 1977
            Roman 1977 17 February 2014 15: 04 New
            +9
            You see, Aslan, all these piles of modern weapons will remain only piles of useless scrap metal in the hands of the Saudis. Since they do not know how to fight and never learn. Why am I talking so confidently about this. The former USSR supplied the Arab countries with such novelties of the Soviet military-industrial complex (T-62, BMP-1, C-125, ZSU-23-4 "Shilka", Cube M1, ATGM "Baby", the latest modifications of Mig-21), which are the same the Vietnamese could only dream.

            Recall that in the 1975 year, Viet Cong entered Saigon on the T-54A and in their Chinese copies.

            In addition, in the October 1973 war, on the side of the Arabs there was an effect of surprise, at least tactical, when they were able to suddenly force the Suez Canal and defeat the Israeli units defending the Bar-Lev line and nevertheless the Arabs lost the war again, and Sadat asked Israelis allow at least to deliver water to their surrounding units.
            Therefore, currently in the Middle East there is not a single army (and even a coalition) capable of opposing the IDF. Who does not agree, do not minus. Give your reasons, I bet
            Yes, in a clash with Iran, without American help, the Saudis do not shine. I can hardly imagine how a well-fed Saudi soldier, even with the Steyr AUG rifle and the armor of the ultra-modern Abrams, will be able to resist the fanatical guard of the Iranian revolution with AK in their hands, who without hesitation will lie under the mine with this Abrams (as it was often times of the Iran-Iraq war).
            Remember, our war with the Georgians in 2008, when Saakashvili thought that he armed the soldiers with automatic rifles similar to the M-16 and dressed them in "almost the same as the Americans" camouflage. he will be able to defeat Russia. And how it all ended ...
            The story of one car
            1. typhoon7
              typhoon7 17 February 2014 15: 51 New
              +6
              Everything is possible, but if we take Syria, then the days of alarmism and mass desertion are behind. There remains a backbone which has three years of experience of intense street fighting and they are not going to flee. The people of Syria are also getting used to the war and are not going to surrender the country. So these high-tech armies, before taking the land of Syria, will have to kill everyone, including women and children, which, by the way, is now handled by herds of cannibalistic pedophiles armed with this very axis of "humanity and democracy."
              1. Roman 1977
                Roman 1977 17 February 2014 16: 09 New
                +4
                Dear Ivan, there is a civil war in Syria flowing smoothly into a religious one. At present, the backbone of the Syrian government forces is the Alawites, from the Assad clan, Christians and Shiites, who are well aware that they will be completely cut out if the Basmachis win. They make up the units of the Republican Guard and Special Forces, which bear the brunt of the fighting. Hezbollah detachments, consisting of Lebanese Shiites, who are grateful to Assad for their help in the war with Israel in the 2006 year, and also well aware that their turn will come after Syria.


                And also 15 of thousands of Iranian "pilgrims" from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

                So, by and large, there is no one to desert, since desertion itself is a way of sophisticated suicide.
                In the ranks of the Islamists, respectively, the backbone is Syrian Sunnis, supported by militants from around the world, including and our disadvantages ...

                Kurds are neutral. They are most interested in the idea of ​​"Kurdistan", and they did not want to spit on the Syrian showdown, if only they would not touch them. All these are watched with interest by Israel, from time to time striking at Syrian targets.
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 17 February 2014 16: 22 New
              -5
              Quote: Novel 1977
              Remember, our war with the Georgians in 2008, when Saakashvili thought that he armed the soldiers with automatic rifles similar to the M-16 and dressed them in "almost the same as the Americans" camouflage. he will be able to defeat Russia. And how it all ended ...

              Saakashvili did not think that Russia would enter the battle. All his troops were imprisoned for a police operation.
              1. supertiger21
                supertiger21 17 February 2014 16: 39 New
                +8
                Quote: Pimply
                Saakashvili did not think that Russia would enter the battle.


                Therefore, he bought weapons from more than a dozen states ??? Especially the Buk air defense system ?! laughing

                Quote: Pimply
                All his troops were imprisoned for a police operation.


                Tanks and artillery is much more than a “police operation”.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 17 February 2014 17: 17 New
                  -4
                  Quote: supertiger21
                  Therefore, he bought weapons from more than a dozen states ??? Especially the Buk air defense system ?!

                  Well, in general, a common practice.

                  Quote: supertiger21
                  Tanks and artillery is much more than a “police operation”.

                  Why? Do you remember what forces were introduced in South Ossetia?
                2. alone
                  alone 17 February 2014 22: 39 New
                  +3
                  One motorized rifle brigade reinforced by a tank battalion from the T-72 and all kinds of police special forces. Buki were bought with the expectation that Russia would limit itself to air strikes. Saakashvili did not even assume that Russia would go to him with army units. Hence the loss of command and control and this result .
                  If I knew I would never go for it.
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 18 February 2014 01: 19 New
                    +1
                    Quote: lonely
                    If I knew I would never go for it.

                    About that and speech
                  2. supertiger21
                    supertiger21 18 February 2014 18: 26 New
                    +1
                    Quote: lonely
                    If I knew I would never go for it.


                    Maybe we’ll also say about losing the USA in Vietnam ???))) fool laughing
              2. Roman 1977
                Roman 1977 17 February 2014 16: 41 New
                11
                Quote: Pimply
                Saakashvili did not think that Russia would enter the battle. All his troops were imprisoned for a police operation.

                The problems of the Indians and the Negro sheriff do not care. Personally, I do not care what Saakashvili hoped for and what he was preparing for. If he believed that he would be able to arrange a "small victorious war" under the American umbrella, and then everyone would write off, then he will If he was lured into a trap, then he was doubled ...
                And it all ended up with:
                According to the official data of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, up to 150 armored vehicles were among the trophies, including 65 T-72 tanks, 5 self-propelled artillery units 2С7 "Peony", three self-propelled guns "Dana", 15 BMP-2, five air defense missile systems "OCA" , several Czech and Turkish armored personnel carriers, the Turkish Cobra armored car, MTLB and samples of engineering equipment, as well as an unnamed number of towed D-30 howitzers. Up to 4000 units of small arms were captured (with more than 2000 units captured at military bases) and several tons of ammunition, including about five million rounds.
                http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D2%F0%EE%F4%E5%E8_%E2_%E2%EE%E9%ED%E5_%E2_%DE%E6%E




                D%EE%E9_%CE%F1%E5%F2%E8%E8_(2008)


                In addition, two battle banners of the Georgian army were taken.



                Maybe so it will be more clear to you
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 17 February 2014 17: 18 New
                  0
                  Quote: Novel 1977
                  The problems of the Indians and the Negro sheriff do not care. Personally, I do not care what Saakashvili hoped for and what he was preparing for. If he believed that he would be able to arrange a "small victorious war" under the American umbrella, and then everyone would write off, then he will If he was lured into a trap, then he was doubled ...

                  This is a separate issue.
              3. Pashhenko Nikolay
                Pashhenko Nikolay 17 February 2014 19: 11 New
                +7
                To strike with the Grad installation and tanks is far from a police operation as it seems to me.
                1. Kazakhstan
                  Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 21 New
                  0
                  I completely agree.
              4. cherkas.oe
                cherkas.oe 17 February 2014 20: 21 New
                +2
                Quote: Pimply
                All his troops were imprisoned for a police operation.

                Pupyr, something you are really thinking thoughtlessly against Sahak, With the “city” did he decide to start a police operation? Turn on your Jewish brains and do not insult other people's minds here, please. There is a limit to everything.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 17 February 2014 22: 26 New
                  -4
                  Quote: cherkas.oe
                  Pupyr, something you are really thinking thoughtlessly against Sahak, With the “city” did he decide to start a police operation? Turn on your Jewish brains and do not insult other people's minds here, please. There is a limit to everything.

                  Police hail operations are a common thing these days. It is worth recalling Chechnya.

                  And where did you get it, sweetie, that I'm defending Saakashvili. I did not have any sympathy for him. I always looked at him soberly. An ambitious pimple, it was clear from the start.
                  1. supertiger21
                    supertiger21 18 February 2014 15: 01 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Pimply
                    he always looked at him soberly. An ambitious pimple, it was clear from the start.


                    “If I do not deny, then I support” - have you heard such words? laughing
              5. Atlas
                Atlas 18 February 2014 13: 32 New
                +2
                You don’t have to write about a police operation, okay?
            3. supertiger21
              supertiger21 17 February 2014 16: 54 New
              +1
              Quote: Novel 1977
              You see, Aslan, all these piles of modern weapons will remain only piles of useless scrap metal in the hands of the Saudis. Since they do not know how to fight and will never learn.


              You may be right, Roman, but they still pose a serious threat. By the way, back in 2012, I remember a lot of talk, the creation of an anti-Syrian Arab army from the troops of the SA, Egypt, Oman, Jordan. Are they preparing for this now? Saudis ???

              Quote: Novel 1977
              which the same Vietnamese could only dream of.


              Well, nothing bad can be said about the Vietnamese. They alone made hundreds of American fighter jets on the MiG-17 and MiG-21 to kiss the ground. Brave men know how to fight. The Egyptians, meanwhile, failed to give a worthy rebuff to the Israeli MiGs. Mirage III.

              Quote: Novel 1977
              Yes, in a clash with Iran, without American help, the Saudis do not shine.


              And if we take into account Iran’s vast experience in conducting military operations, after the 8-year war with Iraq, then the USA will not be easy for the Saudis. Iran is not from the “timid ten.” You can only go against it with a coalition.

              Quote: Novel 1977
              Remember, our war with the Georgians in 2008, when Saakashvili thought that he armed the soldiers with automatic rifles similar to the M-16 and dressed them in "almost the same as the Americans" camouflage. he will be able to defeat Russia. And how it all ended ...


              Yes, they also expected to keep the defense after the "expected victory over the South Ossetia army." But ours would have reached Tbilisi if Menvedev had not announced a ceasefire.
              1. Roman 1977
                Roman 1977 17 February 2014 17: 35 New
                +6
                Quote: supertiger21
                You may be right, Roman, but they still pose a serious threat. By the way, back in 2012, I remember a lot of talk, the creation of an anti-Syrian Arab army from the troops of the SA, Egypt, Oman, Jordan. Are they preparing for this now? Saudis ???

                "A horse and a trembling doe cannot be harnessed to one cart." There are a lot of conversations, but the question is different. Will Iran stare blankly at the creation of such an army? I'm sure not. Since Tehran is well aware that their turn will come after Syria. Secondly, who will command this coalition? Saudis, how will the Egyptians or Jordanians react to this? They have their own leaders, the history of the war with Israel of 1948-149 will be repeated, when the Arabs, having numerical and technical superiority, lost to the Jews due to the inconsistency of actions and ambitions of the Arab leaders ... And they do not have a common border with Jordan Syria, the troops need to be concentrated somewhere. Plus, the position of Israel, which clearly does not like such a coalition at its borders. So in my opinion it's just talking ...
                Quote: supertiger21
                Well, nothing bad can be said about the Vietnamese. They alone made hundreds of American fighter jets on the MiG-17 and MiG-21 to kiss the ground. Brave men know how to fight. The Egyptians, meanwhile, failed to give a worthy rebuff to the Israeli MiGs. Mirage III.

                Why do you offend a good plane? Mirage III for its time is a very worthy aircraft, one of the best in its class. Moreover, if the Arabs flew on Mirages and the Israelis on the MiG-21, I am sure the result would be the same, not in favor of the Arabs.
                Quote: supertiger21
                And if we take into account Iran’s vast experience in conducting military operations, after the 8-year war with Iraq, then the USA will not be easy for the Saudis. Iran is not from the “timid ten.” You can only go against it with a coalition.

                The Saudis understand this very well, so they don’t rock the boat alone. Previously, their “torpedo” was Iraq Saddam, which they fully supported during the Iran-Iraq War. Now there is no such “torpedo”, the United States is not yet up to Iran, there are enough of its own problems, and the Saudis themselves, as they say, are “thin. They will not succeed in using Israel instead of the “torpedo”, but they “still need it”. No, Israel always agrees to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities, but there’s no need to go to war with Iran ...
                Quote: supertiger21
                Yes, they also expected to keep the defense after the "expected victory over the South Ossetia army." But ours would have reached Tbilisi if Menvedev had not announced a ceasefire.

                This is beyond doubt, since the game almost went into one goal.
              2. Zymran
                Zymran 17 February 2014 18: 54 New
                +1
                Quote: supertiger21
                Well, nothing bad can be said about the Vietnamese. They alone made hundreds of American fighter jets on the MiG-17 and MiG-21 to kiss the ground. Brave men know how to fight. The Egyptians, meanwhile, failed to give a worthy rebuff to the Israeli MiGs. Mirage III.


                In fact, most of the downed American fighters are the merit of the air defense, and not the MiGs, and most of this majority was shot down not by missiles, but by barrel artillery and even small arms. At least this applies to most downed phantoms.
                1. supertiger21
                  supertiger21 17 February 2014 21: 48 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Zymran
                  In fact, most of the downed American fighters are the merit of the air defense, and not the MiGs, and most of this majority was shot down not by missiles, but by barrel artillery and even small arms. At least this applies to most downed phantoms.


                  But you must admit, after all, the Vietnamese proved to be much better air fighters than the Egyptians. On the MiGah-17, the Vietnamese pilots managed to beat dozens of Phantoms. And the Egyptians on the MiG-21 lost outright to the Israeli aces on Mirage-III, although the Mirages are also not weak.
                  1. Kazakhstan
                    Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 25 New
                    0
                    I completely agree.
                2. Kazakhstan
                  Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 24 New
                  0
                  I completely agree.
          2. alone
            alone 17 February 2014 22: 35 New
            +1
            I won’t say anything about Israel and Turkey. But there is complete superiority over Iran.
            1. supertiger21
              supertiger21 18 February 2014 15: 03 New
              +1
              Quote: lonely
              I won’t say anything about Israel and Turkey. But there is complete superiority over Iran.


              I immediately understood your logic. "Those who are for the USA are strong, and those who are weak against" laughing
  18. Anuarkz
    Anuarkz 17 February 2014 10: 34 New
    +3
    "The Saudis plan to form an entire army of foreign mercenaries"
    It’s interesting at what speed mercenaries will begin to molt out of the army, because to fight for their country and fight for someone else’s, even for money, are different things, especially since the dead do not need money
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 17 February 2014 13: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: AnuarKz
      It’s interesting at what speed mercenaries will begin to molt out of the army, because to fight for their country and fight for someone else’s, even for money, are different things, especially since the dead do not need money

      As practice shows, they do not molt quickly, and they usually fight quite well
      1. calocha
        calocha 17 February 2014 16: 33 New
        +2
        They are ideally “imprisoned” and therefore do not lazy, but they are not fighting badly, because they have behind them the rich experience of hot spots.
        1. Anuarkz
          Anuarkz 17 February 2014 17: 37 New
          +1
          In principle, yes, but the whole minus of the mercenaries is their financing, and they will be able to use their finances only if they are allowed by their older brother in the person of an "exclusive nation." Well, if you take into account the interests of hawks in the destabilization of the Middle East, then they are not against the merger of the SA, or rather the ruling elite
      2. a52333
        a52333 17 February 2014 19: 41 New
        +4
        Yesterday there was a film about Afghanistan. There they talked about the fighter who let the platoon move away, having left to cover. When, due to injuries, he could not shoot, he blew up a grenade. That's how they fight not mercenaries Afghans buried him like a hero.
    2. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 25 New
      0
      I completely agree.
  19. Gray 43
    Gray 43 17 February 2014 10: 37 New
    +2
    In any war, the SA will fight with the hands of a variety of mercenaries and the war will go only from paycheck to paycheck, it is interesting to assume the likelihood that staff members will one day stumble upon actually sold weapons
  20. Leshka
    Leshka 17 February 2014 10: 50 New
    +2
    this should alert many, or until it is shameful, to ruin Saudi Arabia itself
  21. Gora66
    Gora66 17 February 2014 10: 53 New
    11
    It turns out "Saudi Arabia" is the "most democratic country in the world" with which the states are friends.
    Rallies in Saudi Arabia have been banned by the Ministry of the Interior since early March 2011, on the grounds that demonstrations and processions are contrary to Sharia. At the same time, the police received the right to use any means to suppress illegal assemblies.
    Criminal law is based on Sharia. The law prohibits oral or written discussions of the existing political system. The use and circulation of alcohol and drugs is strictly prohibited in the country. For theft relies clipping brush. Extramarital sex is punished with whips. For murder, blasphemy and "witchcraft" (prediction of the future, fortune telling, spoiling, love spell, etc., etc.), the death penalty is applicable.
    Russia nervously smokes aside, ashamed of the west for the lack of democracy in the country.
    1. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 27 New
      0
      Useful links

      Nikolai Starikov
      About the "window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36349
      About the "giraffe in the window": http://nstarikov.ru/blog/36477
      A terrible tale of how the king fell in love with the king: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34161

      As an example, the introduction of the legalization of marriage between gays in France and incest and child euthanasia in other European countries.
      Very detailed about the impending degradation of modern capitalist civilization: S. V. Valtsev "The decline of mankind" The book is a bomb! Read MUST each: http://www.rusmissia.ru/Zakat/2-1-2.html
      What awaits Russia because of the Maidan: http://warfiles.ru/show-48745-rossiya-pod-udarom.html
  22. Aeneas
    Aeneas 17 February 2014 10: 59 New
    +2
    in the light of the acquisition by the Saudis of Chinese ballistic missiles, and this is still a strategic weapon, the axis of Riyadh - Islamabad - Beijing looms interesting. Sunnis are Chinese, against Shiites and ... Americans! Of course there are much fantastic configurations, but the United States intends to significantly reduce (if not stop) oil imports, replacing shale projects on its territory. And Tehran will need strong allies in the confrontation with Sunni enemies and China, which joined Pakistan. Against China, the most natural counterbalance is Omerika and India, but against the actual Riyadh, a counterbalance is found - this is Syria. With the departure of the Americans from Afghanistan, one should expect an increase in the Iranians there, as on the new front of the confrontation with the Sunnis and Chinese. Competitive confrontation is quite possible in Tajikistan, which is related to the Persians.
  23. Nayhas
    Nayhas 17 February 2014 11: 06 New
    +1
    Listing on the armament stock of the SA, he forgot to mention the purchase of the F-16E / F Block 60 Desert Falcon, and this is the top version of the F-16, so to speak, even the US manufacturer does not have such a machine. But this is particular ...
    The main question "why is the SA actively arming itself" is not quite complicated. Currently, the First World Muslim War is underway, it is clear that the SA supports the warring Sunnis and its alter ego Iran does the same for the Shiites. Unlike the CA, Iran cannot afford such purchases, and the money is not very good and sellers do not stand in line. But the fact that a direct clash between the SA and Iran will take place is quite obvious, therefore, a SA with a smaller population is trying to protect itself precisely by increasing the technical level. If an air war begins, the SA will be able to quite easily gain air supremacy because Iran has the most vulnerable spot for the Air Force.
    PS: Why are Shiite Islamists better than Sunni Islamists, I honestly cannot understand. It is also not clear why Iran is so beloved to everyone, that's who the main supplier of Islamic terrorists is. Unlike the SA, Iran sets a religion over the state, a Sharia court over a secular one, moreover, it tries to spread it all over the world, the very export of the Islamic revolution, support for all kinds of Islamic terrorist organizations ...
    1. Basileus
      Basileus 17 February 2014 11: 24 New
      +2
      Unlike the SA, Iran puts a religion over the state, a Sharia court over a secular one, moreover, it tries to spread it all over the world, the very export of the Islamic revolution, support for all kinds of Islamic terrorist organizations ...

      O_o You, apparently, do not know which court in the SA and the fact that most of the terrorist groups are Sunni.
    2. Aeneas
      Aeneas 17 February 2014 11: 29 New
      +3
      Iran does not buy, because it itself is in permanent UN isolation. Therefore, it is not sickly to import even from exotic Jucheans of North Korea. If the Americans are lobbying for the lifting of sanctions, Tehran will receive enormous funds because it has the world's first gas reserves (which are almost undeveloped) and significant oil. And it will massively purchase Western weapons, as it did until the end of the 70s.
      1. Basileus
        Basileus 17 February 2014 11: 50 New
        +1
        The second gas reserves.
        1. Aeneas
          Aeneas 17 February 2014 13: 11 New
          0
          A lot, a lot.
    3. ed65b
      ed65b 17 February 2014 11: 42 New
      10
      Quote: Nayhas
      It is also not clear why Iran is so beloved to everyone, that's who the main supplier of Islamic terrorists is.

      Something I did not meet with Islamists from Iran in the Caucasus, but the same Wahs, Saudi-Arabs were full. Well, how is Iran in the east fighting me like violet. For me, the SA is a greater threat to the Russian Federation than Iran.
  24. Ram chandra
    Ram chandra 17 February 2014 11: 11 New
    +3
    Article is super! Thanks.
    1. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 29 New
      0
      I completely agree.
  25. Zaslavsky-S
    Zaslavsky-S 17 February 2014 11: 41 New
    +3
    I am not opposed to the fact that the CA would become a nuclear power. And Qatar too. In the sense that radiation would roll over.
  26. Watchman
    Watchman 17 February 2014 12: 28 New
    +5
    The Saudis themselves do not want to fight, but seeing how the United States acts with its allies - Egypt, Turkey, Israel, they are afraid that if something happens, they will be left alone against Iran or the democratic revolution. Also, an army is needed to carry Arab values ​​to neighbors.
  27. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 17 February 2014 12: 34 New
    +1
    Light is WEAPON! Articles offset.
  28. morpogr
    morpogr 17 February 2014 13: 10 New
    +5
    The Saudis feel that the boomerang of revolutions and the shift of regimes is flying towards them. And since they have a lot of money and in case of chaos there is something to profit from, they invest money in weapons hoping that it will save them.
    1. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 15: 30 New
      +1
      I completely agree.
  29. individual
    individual 17 February 2014 14: 09 New
    +3
    Saudi Arabia’s arms purchases will be a display case.
    In short, they will buy the equipment - there will be no one to manage it.
    The thing is that the mentality of Saudi Arabia is a consumer society with excess oil dollars. This mentality is aimed at the ideology of the religious superiority of the Sunnis over Shiites, and not the creation of their own military and scientific-technical personnel
    At the forefront of this confrontation is Tehran and Riad.
    And if Iran is ready to defend its ideas in all respects, then Saudi Arabia is doomed to seek support initially in the United States, and after the well-known events in Turkey and even in Israel.
    Means in the desert - money down the drain.
    1. sazhka4
      sazhka4 17 February 2014 14: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: individ
      Means in the desert - money down the drain.

      I had to go through the Cossack Eli on a city bus by flight, just don’t laugh at Tashkent-Moscow. Well, I can responsibly say that neither money nor technology is needed in the desert. Water, camel or horse. Or the Ural motorcycle. The rest is show off.
  30. Burmistr
    Burmistr 17 February 2014 14: 25 New
    +2
    USA - Israel - Saudi Arabia - Qatar
    Here you have the whole axis of evil.
  31. matross
    matross 17 February 2014 16: 34 New
    +3
    Not a buoy for the Saudis army !!! And more recently, they all thought they were only alive due to amers! Yes, and here we were many shouting - to bomb them in the desert! Yes, now we can bomb them only nuclear weapons can, and so take their horseradish, adversaries!
  32. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 17 February 2014 16: 43 New
    +1
    It remains to order petroleum jelly there, a hundred tons, probably enough?
  33. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 17 February 2014 17: 10 New
    +4
    If the Saudi authorities want to build a "World Caliphate" on the bayonets of mercenaries and rattle weapons to the whole world, then those who are interested in not getting into the Saudi yoke should be hit in their oil fields, preferably a preventive one.
    And that's it. The whole war will be bent on the root. There will be nothing for mercenaries to pay, and they themselves are not nichrome as a military force.
    So make them oil production and cut the supply of strategically important materials and goods.
    In a couple of months, this will resemble a large prisoner of war camp throughout the territory of the SA.
    They do not have their own good agriculture. It is not surprising when the whole country does not sit on the supply of crude oil and no longer develops any industries, but lives on the import of everything and everything.
  34. crasever
    crasever 17 February 2014 17: 35 New
    +1
    Well, what will be the outcome of the war unleashed by the ruling Saudi degenerates, creating hara and exchanging the fighting traditions of Bedouin warriors for green papers and silicone prostitutes, and even allowing armed infidels to trample the sacred land of Mecca and Medina ???
  35. Power
    Power 17 February 2014 17: 41 New
    +3
    In how flooded drovers camels from dough and oil. They feel they see: What the Americans are stirring up, and the Wahhabis will have to answer for the "bazaar". There is God in the world, and blood is not water.
  36. 2я19
    2я19 17 February 2014 19: 45 New
    +3
    The task for our kontriks is to play off the Saudis, and better the Sunnis with the Jews. So far fantastic, but it is necessary to work. War would be useful, cynical, but useful for the world.
  37. voliador
    voliador 17 February 2014 19: 47 New
    +5
    And the Saudis thereby get rid of green candy wrappers, they translate them into real goods. If only our duckling with a teddy bear would finally understand that it is not necessary to invest funds in the Fed of Sramers, but in creating modern public enterprises.
  38. Nickvgg
    Nickvgg 17 February 2014 23: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: lonely
    Quote: Nickvgg
    I would like to know the Saudi human resources potential in the event of a protracted war. Also, the reliability and continuity of the supply of ammunition and spare parts for purchased equipment. I would like to know when the Saudis organized and conducted combined-arms operations (because what I know was cavalry raids along with Laurence of Arabia with camel drafts). The presence of objective answers will be able to determine the ability of the Saudis to any conflicts.


    Start Iran today’s war against SA. In an hour there will be the whole world against Iran. SA is the main Ally and dominant force of the Arabian Peninsula.
    And yet. Do not forget that the main shrines of Islam are located on the territory of S. Any attack means a war against the shrines of Islam. And this automatically means the performance of all Muslim countries against Iran. In this situation, nothing will help Iran.

    If a country is dynamically arming itself, then the country plans to become an initiator. In this case, it is rather difficult to count on solidarity. Yes, and we will be honest. Many in the world would love to see the fall of the Saudi house.
  39. allexx83
    allexx83 18 February 2014 00: 38 New
    +1
    Without proactive in the oil fields - it will not do. Immediately all evil spirits cease to finance and the NATO VPK feed. am
  40. komel
    komel 18 February 2014 01: 39 New
    +1
    Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal recently reaffirmed strategic relations with the United States, however acknowledging the existence of disagreements between the two countries, which he called "natural." The visit of US President Barack Obama to Saudi Arabia is scheduled for late March.


    Recently, the President of Pakistan met with the successor to the Saudi Arabia.

    Iranian Interior Minister Abdolreza Rahmani Fazli accused Pakistan of inaction against terrorist groups. He noted that Iran has repeatedly asked Pakistan to ensure security at its borders.

    "If Pakistan is not able to ensure its security, Iran can send its forces to the country to protect its own security," Fazli said.
  41. ddd1975
    ddd1975 18 February 2014 01: 55 New
    +1
    Saudis keep up with the times. Armed now all who have what. Military budgets are growing from year to year - why be surprised.
  42. project sity
    project sity 18 February 2014 03: 02 New
    +1
    A little bell for a big conflict) One way or another the war will be! And not one country will be involved, but almost all countries. In general, for all this war will be the last))