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Russia - the United States. Who are the judges?

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This match, which, in principle, did not have a big tournament value, will definitely fit into all textbooks stories Olympic hockey. The match in Sochi on the crowded ice arena between the eternal rivals Russia and the United States of America is judged by the chief arbiter from ... the United States of America! The ingenious decision of the people who were engaged in the organizational preparation of this match, the ingenious decision of the IIHF, isn't it ...

The reason, as we were told, is that the hockey functionaries do not take into account the nationality of the arbitrators ... At first, the arbitrator did not really focus the attention of thousands of viewers and millions (if not billions) of viewers on his citizenship. But as the unforgettable Stanislavsky used to say: if at the beginning of the play a gun hangs on the wall, then (by the end of the play) it will shoot. And the American referee really "shot." He is the one who cannot choose another word, brazenly canceled a goal capture by Russian hockey player Fyodor Tyutin with the 2: 2 score. Canceled after watching the replay, in which even a person with serious myopia would see an obvious goal. The puck flew into the top corner of the American goalkeeper Kwick's gate and after a moment jumped out onto the court. Replays from different cameras of the American referee did not impress - he did not count a goal. The judge explained his decision by saying that the American gates were "slightly" shifted ... "A little" - this is how much - one question, and who exactly moved them (if ever moved) just before Tyutin's throw - is another question.

And now let's imagine for a second what would have happened if a Russian referee served the USA-Russia match in the USA, and helping his compatriots to win in such a clumsy way that the US judge used in Sochi. Yes, this simply could not have been by definition ... It turns out that, excuse me, about our own feet, they wiped their feet on our land - in the eyes, by the way, of the president and prime minister of the country. And now what? - we have to shake off the dirt and wipe the snot, pretending that nothing terrible has happened? .. Are we going to merge our own national team, which was laid out before the eyes of the fans until the last second? ..

Pavel Bure answered the questions of the First Olympic about the Russia-USA match

We discussed the tense and dramatic game of hockey teams of Russia and the United States with renowned hockey player Pavel Bure.

Dmitry Borisov: Pavel, hello. Thank you for coming to us right after the match. You were there, everyone saw with your own eyes. The main question that everyone is now discussing: what happened to the third uncounted goal of our team?

Pavel Bure: I watched very carefully, it seemed to me that the puck flew into the goal and a red signal came on that there was a goal.

Dmitry Borisov: Let's see together. We have the opportunity to watch these moments, here, right here in the studio. That's how it looked in the television broadcast in replay from different points.

Pavel Bure: I just saw on TV that the gate was not in place. Unfortunately, according to the rules this is not a goal.
Dmitry Borisov: Why didn't you notice this earlier?

Pavel Bure: I do not know. There are still 4 referees who should have seen it. We all rejoiced, celebrated a goal, but this nuance, of course, was not visible from the podium.

Dmitry Borisov: But Vyacheslav Vainov says that the goalkeeper could have been intentionally moved in advance, which in general he is famous for because of his technique.

Pavel Bure: There are certain tricks for goalkeepers. Unfortunately, the puck was not counted, but it flew into the goal, so you can see it very well here. That is, everyone saw it.

Dmitry Borisov: Judging by the personnel, would you consider this goal in place of the judges or not?

Pavel Bure: You know, I support Russia, I would personally count it. But there is a rule that if the gate is shifted, the goal is not counted.
Dmitry Borisov: How do you deal with the situation, that the game was actually judged by the NHL judges - an American and a Swede?

Pavel Bure: As far as I know, they seem to represent the NHL. Unfortunately, so far we have no judges in the NHL, and it is hard for me to say by what criteria those judges who are here were selected.

Dmitry Borisov: If you do not take into account this goal, most of the time ended in a draw 2: 2, was it a game of equal in your opinion?

Pavel Bure: At the Olympics, about 6-8 teams have equal chances, and once again today all showed two teams that ours played well, and the Americans also played fairly well. I was just pleased with Datsuk: he had an injury and he scored two goals today, well done.

Dmitry Borisov: And then the third, already in the shootout, but they said that he did not recover from the injury.

Pavel Bure: There was a lot of talk, and I know how hard it is in itself, when you don’t perform for a long time, only you train how hard it is to get into the game. But Pavel played great today and scored two important goals.

Dmitry Borisov: After the games you talked with the guys, what is their attitude in the team?

Pavel Bure: The fighting spirit, the guys believe in themselves, today they played 2: 2, and then bullets, like a penalty, this is a lottery.

Dmitry Borisov: What would you advise them to pay attention to?

Pavel Bure: I think it is more careful to play defense, because we had two exits one on one against us. Our attack is probably the best attack in the world.

Dmitry Borisov: Well, we will root for ours in the next game. Thank you very much!

Today's defeat in shootouts, of course, does not mean that everything is lost. Russian ice hockey team with four points in second place in Group A of the Olympic tournament. Five points for Americans, three for Slovenia. The fourth is the team of Slovakia, with which we will play tomorrow, at the same time as the USA-Slovenia meeting.



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  1. siberalt
    siberalt 16 February 2014 06: 23
    +40
    Something like this.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/118/zdii158.jpg

    If the goalkeeper himself shifts the goal, then they appointed a bullet.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 16 February 2014 07: 27
      +12
      this is where the bullet was prescribed in such a situation?
      according to the rules, a bullet can be assigned for deliberate goal shift by the goalkeeper in his zone - in the last two minutes of the game or in extra time.
      it was not the last two minutes and the interpretation of "deliberate shift" was not heard
      1. SlavaS
        SlavaS 16 February 2014 10: 57
        +41
        It turns out that the goalkeeper needs to move the gate from the very beginning of the game, and then go to drink tea on the bench, or I didn’t get it.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 16 February 2014 11: 50
          +12
          it’s impossible. It’s just necessary for the judge to work more professionally and immediately fix the violation. But about the bullet, he couldn’t be appointed here anyway. simply, judging by the video. the goalkeeper in this case must also draw the referee's attention to the goal shift. I can only say that in the NHL such a moment could have gone unnoticed and the goal would have been defended
          1. 31231
            31231 16 February 2014 13: 33
            +15
            that in the NHL such a moment could have gone unnoticed and the goal would have been defended

            Ovechkin also said that in the NHL such goals count. And the referees are from there !!!!
            By the way, why they judged the match, Fetisov already explained. The NHL made participation of their judges one of the conditions for vacationing at the Nkhlovsk Olympiad. This is supposedly safer for the players. But why exactly the American is assigned to the match, for this you must ask the IIHF.
            In general, three controversial episodes were interpreted in favor of the United States.
            1. The first goal scored by the Americans. Unintentionally ?! But the skate then moved towards the gate.
            2. Unscored goal. The judges would have noticed in the overs that the gate is not so. But after all, they are recommended by the NHL MEGAPROFESSIONALS !!!
            3. Hitting a club at the end of the overs of our player’s lying American. Explicit removal.

            In general, I thought the GDP or DAM at the end of the match in the aisle would approach the referees and give points.
            But they were clumsy. Maybe because it’s not a knockout game ?!
            1. Hleb
              Hleb 16 February 2014 13: 51
              -21%
              1. I honestly didn’t notice a violation there, I won’t say anything. Maybe there is a video?
              2. in what over? There was a shift to the main one.
              3. talked on the phone and did not see when they beat our
              1. 31231
                31231 16 February 2014 14: 21
                +9
                2. in what over? There was a shift to the main one.

                I mean what they noticed strangely not right away, so I say "They would have seen the shifted gates in the over," and even with the help of a judge on video cameras. And these are the professionals advertised by the NHL?

                3. talked on the phone and did not see when they beat our

                They showed a replay. The recumbent Malkin, the American poked twice with a stick. At what obviously deliberately. The stadium buzzed even. Because the game went the other way, the referee thought the television crew would merge this episode. I was afraid at the end of the overs to leave my fellow citizens in the balance from losing. So look carefully.
                1. Hleb
                  Hleb 16 February 2014 14: 23
                  -1
                  Ah, well, it’s clear on the second point. And according to Malkin, I didn’t really see or review the match. Yes, and I will not review. I take the word)
            2. eprst
              eprst 16 February 2014 15: 58
              +18
              Anecdote: - In the Russia-USA match, the judge did not count the obvious goal, said that the goal was shifted.
              - It was necessary to kill.
              - The gate?
              “No, judge.”
              1. xan
                xan 16 February 2014 20: 18
                +8
                another joke
                Hell calls Paradise to hockey competitions.
                Angels say:
                “Aren't you afraid?” After all, all the best players are with us!
                The devils answer:
                “But all the judges are ours!”
                1. Foxmara
                  Foxmara 17 February 2014 08: 32
                  +1
                  I imagine, by the year 2025, the US national team of lawyers was leaving on the ice and condemning the entire composition of opponents before the start of the game.
          2. CALL.
            CALL. 16 February 2014 13: 58
            +7
            Quote: Gleb
            you just need a judge to work more professionally and immediately fix the violation

            Well-known Canadian expert Pierre Lebrun commented on the canceled goal of the Russian hockey team in a match with the US team, which ended in a victory for the Americans with a score of 3: 2 PB. The expert noted that if the hockey tournament at the Olympics in Sochi were held according to the rules of the NHL, and not the IIHF, the goal of Fedor Tyutin would be counted, according to North American media.
            The rules of the National Hockey League say that when a goal scored by a goal is canceled, the referee has the right to score a goal if the goal was moved by a player or goalkeeper of the defending team, and if the goal was scored before they were moved. According to the IIHF rules, any goal is canceled if the goal is moved at that moment.http: //www.championat.com/olympic14/news-1762839-po-pravilam-nkhl-gol-s
            bornoj-rossii-v-vorota-komandy-ssha-byl-by-zaschitan.html

            Why, in two contentious cases, the judge decided in favor of the Americans. And the case of Markov, whom the Americans beat him with a club from behind. If this is not biased refereeing, then what is it called?
            1. Hleb
              Hleb 16 February 2014 14: 01
              0
              I am the only one here who wrote about this today and who said that in the NHL this goal could be counted without problems.
              the question is why do I need to write this?
              1. CALL.
                CALL. 16 February 2014 14: 28
                +3
                Quote: Gleb
                I am the only one here who wrote about this today and who said that in the NHL this goal could be counted without problems.

                I noted this +. And he emphasized the professionalism of the judge from the NHL.
                1. Hleb
                  Hleb 16 February 2014 14: 48
                  +2
                  I'm worried no less)
            2. Stalnov I.P.
              Stalnov I.P. 16 February 2014 15: 40
              +6
              This, what kind of a referee is so professional, notices that the gate is moved only after a goal has been scored, this is no longer professionalism, but mudism. Where are our officials in all these sports organizations, they have not seen the schedule of matches and what referees are appointed, why the heck we need such officials, for the sake of their ass and the "green" they will sell their own mother. How long will we endure?
              1. Papakiko
                Papakiko 16 February 2014 17: 13
                -2
                Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
                "green" mother will be sold. But how long will we endure

                Quote: Z.O.V.
                If this is not biased refereeing, then what is it called?

                Quote: Z.O.V.
                The expert noted that if the hockey tournament at the Olympics in Sochi were held according to the rules of the NHL, and not the IIHF

                Well, you comrades are all so upset?
                Big business and politics are already leading the Olympic Games in secondary roles. Have you ever hinted to anyone breaking through the post-match series bullets? Analyze the outcome of the game from the point of view of the totalizator and everything becomes clear.
                Get around and enjoy the multi-day sporting show.
                All the results were painted at the last summit in St. Petersburg (September 5-6, 201zg.) wink
                I don’t understand the presence of curling at the Olympics. wassat
                There are many species that give a real sight and the effect of competition:
                Speed ​​skating. (I hope in Korea it will already be included in the competition program).
                Ice climbing
                The annual extreme winter games have already given a lot for the Olympics, but there are still "berries in the buttocks".

                1. Alan
                  Alan 18 February 2014 19: 42
                  0
                  Only two days ago I was kidding with my wife about curling, which is missing only the descent of the skates from the hill))) but it turns out that this crap is practiced. But they wanted to remove the struggle from the Olympics (((.. The world went crazy.
            3. 77bob1973
              77bob1973 16 February 2014 18: 24
              +5
              Better to play, not appeal to the judges!
              1. Eugeniy_369k
                Eugeniy_369k 16 February 2014 22: 04
                +2
                Quote: 77bob1973
                Better to play, not appeal to the judges!

                The most accurate commit +++++
              2. Foxmara
                Foxmara 17 February 2014 08: 38
                +1
                Quote: 77bob1973
                Better to play, not appeal to the judges!

                Of course you have to play better. But the judge to dig. So that the rest would be disgraceful wassat
                Because, on an equal footing, giving victory to your own on the basis of crocheting is neither sporting nor somehow human, but apparently very American?
              3. Ustas
                Ustas 17 February 2014 14: 40
                0
                Quote: 77bob1973
                Better to play, not appeal to the judges!

                It turned out in my press that after a condemned game with the Americans, our hockey players seemed to be sluggish to play the next game with the Slovaks.
                The American judge made a coup and morally led the Russian team out of the Olympic Games.
      2. bif
        bif 16 February 2014 11: 23
        +7
        Then let the referee decide - either he "intentionally" did not notice the shift in the world and did not stop the game and then receives a punishment like a crappy referee, or the goalkeeper's shift is recognized as deliberate and he receives the punishment already after the fact - disqualification of either one eccentric (letter M) or another would suit me!
        1. PiP
          PiP 16 February 2014 12: 04
          +17
          Quote: bif
          Then let the judge decide - or is it he "deliberately" not noticed the shift in the world and did not stop the game and then receives a punishment like shitty

          And it seemed strange to no one that the referee went to watch the replay (as if he was waiting for the gate to move). Four "mattresses" on the site could not notice obvious violations ... The shifted gates, in the corner, muzzle our ... The battle was real, how not to twist our fellows!
          1. Denis
            Denis 16 February 2014 13: 06
            +28
            Quote: PiP
            And it didn’t seem strange to anyone that the judge, all the goals we had scored, went to watch the replay (
            1. kazssr
              kazssr 16 February 2014 14: 47
              0
              ha ha was he was wassat love hi drinks
            2. Foxmara
              Foxmara 17 February 2014 08: 39
              +2
          2. Denis
            Denis 16 February 2014 13: 08
            +25
            Quote: Denis
            And no one seemed strange that the judge all the goals we scored went to watch the replay
          3. 31231
            31231 16 February 2014 13: 36
            +6
            The battle was real, just do not twist our fellows!

            Ours played quite badly. Missed only in the minority.
            And the only thing that still lacks teamwork in the implementation of the majority.

            Americans are really one of the strongest at this Olympics. Even the Swedes and Canada are not so impressive, because they have not yet been pressed.
            1. Armata
              Armata 16 February 2014 14: 01
              +11
              Quote: 31231
              Americans are really one of the strongest at this Olympics. Even the Swedes and Canada are not so impressive, because they have not yet been pressed.
              Being a strong team and playing honestly are two components of a team. Making dirty tricks out of silence is not the best option to prove your advantage. Simply put, yesterday I swore all evening and once again made sure that all Americans are small creatures. I do not consider this team worthy for further participation in the games. They showed their dirty nature.
              1. illarion
                illarion 17 February 2014 01: 49
                -1
                Then you got excited: both teams played well, and the referee turned out to be a *** man, so the players of the American team are not to blame.
            2. VAF
              VAF 16 February 2014 18: 04
              +7
              Quote: 31231
              Ours played quite badly


              And now, how. After 2 periods do you rate our game ??? wassat
              If it's over you can call it ... a game crying
              1. 77bob1973
                77bob1973 16 February 2014 18: 29
                +3
                I agree 100% of the game our team does not have, as there is no ingenuity and desire to win, the usual NHL brawl, I look Russia Slovakia 3rd period 0-0!?
              2. Hleb
                Hleb 16 February 2014 18: 59
                +2
                conclusion? did we bounce yesterday?)) Sergey is not easier for me to look at this ...
                1. VAF
                  VAF 16 February 2014 19: 29
                  +9
                  Quote: Gleb
                  conclusion?


                  It is not sad and patriotic. But ..... "suitcase.NHL airport", well, the rest of ours .. to watch the Olympics and the same .. by clubs crying

                  Until they take back "into service" the old method of the Great Guru of Hockey - A.V. Tarasov .... there will be no business .. even if you cut me.

                  Only played triplets or whole club links .. and now they can be "diluted" by NHL players. But even then .. if they match any of these triplets and links.
                  Defenders are only PAIRS.

                  And so ... not a game. But figure skating with hockey and a stick crying .
                  There is no tactic whatsoever. A hole in defense, I don’t know what happened to the Slovaks (last year it wasn’t at the World Cup), but they entered our zone as if they were home. Especially in the first period.
                  They should have thrown ... a wagon and a small cart ... thanks to Varlamov drinks

                  Quote: Gleb
                  did we bounce yesterday?


                  Celebrated yesterday drinks with men our DATE-25 years of withdrawal of SV from the territory of the DRA soldier , so it was no longer up to the discussion request
                  1. Hleb
                    Hleb 16 February 2014 19: 33
                    +1
                    I’m going to sleep Sergey. You’re writing and you feel that you’re experiencing
                    health to you!
                    1. VAF
                      VAF 16 February 2014 19: 40
                      +3
                      Quote: Gleb
                      I’m going to sleep Sergey. You’re writing and you feel that you’re experiencing
                      health to you!


                      Well then, good night and a good working week! drinks

                      Upset. Of course. Strongly .. not that word crying And then the masstart at the muzhikoy was postponed until tomorrow at 10.30 am ... well, that I will have time to spend the "five minutes" and see.
                      Although .. I’ve already seen and seen everything, but our chances are very illusory request
                      1. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 16 February 2014 19: 43
                        +3
                        Hi Seryozha. Miracles do not happen. We all hoped for a miracle, but subconsciously sat .......... Vancouver script.
                      2. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 16 February 2014 19: 46
                        +4
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        ....... Vancouver script.

                        Sad page ....
                        I just do not want "no return" on the way to a medal in the spirit of Russia-Ukraine football, when the then young Karpin said "I had to score two ...".
                      3. VAF
                        VAF 16 February 2014 20: 01
                        +2
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        We all hoped for a miracle


                        Hi Sasha drinks Personally, I did not hope for a miracle, but hoped for professionalism, but request
                        Forgotten history too quickly, and tsuka tends to repeat itself wassat (remember 98 year wink ).
                        And this year, in the sense of this season, our organizers of the Olympic Games managed to "agree" with the NHL about the INSURANCE of the players who will take part in the Olympic Games (you yourself understand that the amounts there ... belay ).
                        And all-question rushed in the Stanley Cup timeout and all. who wanted (or rather who was invited) went.
                        Therefore, all the very best arrived (the Swedes have 84 people playing in the NHL .... can you imagine what choice belay , so they took only Erickson from the national team ... it saved everyone that the 3 most important players, by the way the leaders in each link for various reasons could not come, so the Swedes are the same .. until there’s no ale. ..from all already fluff and feathers flew).
                        Well, you already saw amers and Canadians yourself.
                        Well, what about ours ... and ours, as always ... pulled out different players from different clubs and tried to "glue" the team.
                        Miracles, unfortunately, do not happen .. today's game once again it .. proved crying

                        By the way .... wink naturally i know why the dog raises his leg wink - self-affirmation and raising the rating in your area, well, where he walks, because. the higher the "mark", the higher .. "authority" lol

                        I have SOBAKIN, by the way, such a "habit" .. does not suffer ... because. if he lifts his leg, it will be generally under 1,2-1,3 not less ... and plus he "earned" "authority" with his size and voice (the alarm is triggered on cars. when next .. will pop wassat ).

                        By the way, a question to the oncoming lane ... and what is the most "unsuccessful" breed in this regard wink (well, in terms of "raising" the "marks" to a height wassat ).
                      4. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 16 February 2014 20: 13
                        +3
                        By the way .... wink naturally I know. Why the dog raises his leg wink - self-affirmation and raising the rating in his area, well, where he walks, because. the higher the "mark", the higher .. "authority" lol No Seryozha, I didn't guess, once the dog didn't lift his leg, and the fence fell on him laughing Now it is insured, so to speak. laughing
                      5. VAF
                        VAF 16 February 2014 20: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        No Seryozha, I didn’t guess, once the dog didn’t lift his leg, and the fence fell over him laughing. Now he is insured, so to speak.


                        Well, then put the question in quotation marks. so that it would be clear that the question with "pod..om" wink
                        And then I ... seriously soldier

                        Well then answer my ... about the "most unsuccessful" breed in this regard .. a question in all seriousness .... and by the way. how does this dog get out of .. "position" wassat
                      6. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 16 February 2014 21: 45
                        0
                        Seryozha, I don’t know.
      3. 31231
        31231 16 February 2014 21: 19
        +3
        And what is there to evaluate? There is still not enough teamwork and implementation of the majority.
        The selection, as expected for the Beale team, is normal.
        Here and Plyushchenka obserali. Say, "How could he deceive our expectations!" And the fact that he, with the bolts in his back, made a colossal contribution to the team gold, they do not care.
        From the sofa then criticize the simplest. He poured beer, put the pistachios, and go ahead and obsess all.

        Personally, it seems to me that they play with dignity, only lacks accuracy and teamwork. In the first meetings and it is difficult to wait for something else.
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 16 February 2014 21: 29
          +3
          Seryoga, you read THEIR comments --- Agree, they don’t pour special shit on US! Just don’t think that he’s handed you all over. I will ALWAYS stay on my land! And I will teach my children my Motherland !!!
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 16 February 2014 21: 55
          +2
          Quote: 31231
          only lacks accuracy and teamwork.

          At World 2012, ours started "through the stump-deck", but with each game they gained momentum so that the final no longer doubted anyone.
      4. Eugeniy_369k
        Eugeniy_369k 16 February 2014 22: 08
        +1
        Quote: vaf
        And now, how. After 2 periods do you rate our game ???

        "Do not put salt on my wound...."

        I know people, they went to hockey with a specialist, after the games of our team I began to piss their return ...
  • bif
    bif 16 February 2014 11: 17
    +11
    The decision not to count the puck was correct, but the referee should also punish the goalkeeper - at least removal by 2min or longer, the option is to appoint a series of shootouts too! And since the judge left unpunished this behavior of the Amer goalkeeper, it is necessary to remove the judge and raise the issue of changes in the composition of the judges at the Olympic Games.
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 16 February 2014 11: 33
      +18
      Actually, why are you surprised? When was it that our athletes were not sued? No, I remember one such show, in 1980, it was a deal.

      An American judge judges the international match of the American team. This is an indisputable fact. And nonsense at the same time. That the goalkeeper pushed the goal - and there was no one else in that situation. By the way, none of my friends who watched the match saw the gates put back in place. Either not shown, or something else.
      And okay with that. They also showed the moment when in overtime Amer pressed one of ours. Club. On the head. And without the puck. Removal? Come on...

      In short, the American judge-patriot decided to make a gift to his team. And he did it.

      We must accept it as a fact - as we were condemned in the past, so they will condemn us in the present and in the future. Do not condemn the weak, alas. So you just have to come to terms with this, showered with federation protests and score more.

      Bullshit happened, happens and will happen, so that the guys do not hang up their noses and throw more.
    2. Denis
      Denis 16 February 2014 13: 12
      +8
      Quote: bif
      The decision not to count the puck is correct
      1. Foxmara
        Foxmara 17 February 2014 08: 46
        0
        So maybe the judge should have thought? Maybe something else will not open in America? Maybe it was not necessary to make gifts for the team, but to build relationships before it was too late? bully
    3. xan
      xan 16 February 2014 20: 07
      +6
      Quote: bif
      The decision not to count the puck is correct

      no not right! Who should control the correct location of the gate is the judge. If the gate is moved, or if he wants to check the installation is correct, he must stop the game. If the game is not stopped, then the goal must be counted, because Players played and are not required to answer for the jamb of the referee.
      I would rather lose as ours yesterday than win as Americans yesterday.
      Naher such victories, disgrace.
  • 222222
    222222 16 February 2014 12: 00
    +21
    Hell calls Paradise to hockey competitions.
    Angels say:
    “Aren't you afraid?” After all, all the best players are with us!
    The devils answer:
    “But all the judges are ours!”
    1. alone
      alone 16 February 2014 12: 15
      +9
      You just had to make better use of the moments in the first period, did you see how many real moments were missed for scoring? Realization goes off scale, that’s what you need to work on. As for refereeing, I don’t argue, the main arbitrator should not be an American. group, that's okay, we must continue to prepare.

      P.S. The team game is lame, there are names, but there is almost no game. That's the problem of the national team. Something needs to be done urgently. The finals are just around the corner, but you still have to get to them. Don't wait for an easy walk. The stakes are too big, especially in hockey
      1. VAF
        VAF 16 February 2014 18: 10
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        The team game is lame, there are names, but there is almost no game. That's the problem of the national team. Something needs to be done urgently. The finals are just around the corner, but you still have to get to them. Don't wait for an easy walk. The stakes are too big, especially in hockey


        I agree with many, +! But ... before the finale yet ... reach .. must. Right now the 2nd period has ended .. don’t believe it .. even the abusive supply .. exhausted!
        But you also have to watch the third crying
        But what kind of "show-off" - got off the bus and "bubble2 began to kick in front of the public belay
        In will be hochma. If now they will also play 0: 0 in the base and in the special stage, and then the bully and us again .. "blow in" crying belay
        okay .. start the 3rd I'll go ... "suffering" drinks
  • kris
    kris 16 February 2014 12: 18
    +6
    The emphasis is all shifted to the goal.
    I believe that the judge screwed up, but.
    But Radulov's "game" is no longer clear to me.
    Two "blunt" deletions and two washers for us.
    With all his behavior - both in relation to CSKA fans (this also happened), and journalists - this person demonstrates that he can do anything. He is amazingly talented, he is powerful, by nature he has been given everything to conquer the hockey world. And something, no doubt, he achieved.

    But it is not by chance that, with all his abilities, Radulova completely rejected the NHL, and until now only with sarcasm and mockery few people remember him there. You should have seen how the North American sector of social networks exploded as soon as Radulov received the stupidest removal for attempting to "revenge" his opponent for Datsyuk's attack - revenge that no one asked him for!

    Here is just one small selection of statements on Twitter - mind you, not fans, but journalists from the United States and Canada. "Stupid removal of Radulov - we are lucky!", "We have already forgotten what selfish stupidity Radulov is capable of doing. He reminded him," "Didn't Radulov forget that Mr. Putin is at the match?", "Will Radulov be killed before the start of 3- period? "," Maybe before the game, David Poyle (general manager of the US national team and "Nashville", where Radulov used to play. - Ed.) held new negotiations with Radulov? "

    The team squeezed everything out of themselves, played extremely disciplined from behind and brightly in front, finally gave birth to a goal - in general, it was completely different than a significant part of the match with Slovenia. 20 people skated on the ice, passed, pushed, breathed to the beat. And what the 21st did, the brutal coach of the Yekaterinburg “Avtomobilist” Anatoly Emelin recently called at a press conference (in relation to another player, of course) a betrayal. I'm not ready to repeat such a cool word, but everyone should think about it. And first of all, Radulov himself.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 16 February 2014 14: 41
      +11
      I didn’t want to say, well, all right. I worked on the night of the New Year, somewhere around 0.30 I got on board with the CSKA team, well, the guys naturally had fun, new year, congratulated everyone, signed autographs with pleasure, took pictures, but everything changed when it appeared Radulov, drunk in ha ... but (I can’t find another word), mate, quick-witted! The team left, he stayed to drink at the bar, wait for a car with a personal driver, what a star! Upon arrival, the driver made a dirty scene than he did not threaten him for being late, disgusting and disgusting! For me, he ceased to exist as an athlete, and as a person!
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 16 February 2014 14: 47
        +2
        in the course, what is his "nickname"?)) but in general he is a skilled player. with character, of course, not everything is simple)
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 16 February 2014 14: 49
          +2
          Gleb welcome. No.
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 16 February 2014 14: 52
            +3
            great. his name is DOG))
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 16 February 2014 14: 56
              +3
              To the point of Gleb. But in my opinion, if you represent a great club and the country, you can’t fall below folder cowards. It was surprising that none of the club’s team and staff tried to restrain him, apparently completely inadequate when drunk.
              1. Hleb
                Hleb 16 February 2014 14: 58
                +2
                The dog disappeared on three legs.
                A characteristic sign - when pissing - falls.


                he is violent) he left the NHL because of his character
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 16 February 2014 14: 59
                  +1
                  Gleb do you know why when the dog pokes on the fence raises its paw? laughing
                  1. Hleb
                    Hleb 16 February 2014 15: 20
                    +2
                    Sorry, I ran the case. By the way, if he scores in the next matches and the decisive goal, I won’t be surprised at all. He’s capable of mowing and pulling out matches
                    1. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 16 February 2014 15: 30
                      +2
                      Silver is our men ski relay!
                    2. VAF
                      VAF 16 February 2014 20: 10
                      +1
                      Quote: Alex 241
                      Silver is our men ski relay!


                      RESPECT LEGKOV fellow otherwise it would be ... silver crying That's why Ustyugov was not taken request
                    3. Hleb
                      Hleb 17 February 2014 06: 01
                      0
                      this alignment
    2. Papakiko
      Papakiko 16 February 2014 17: 36
      +2
      Quote: Alex 241
      For me, he ceased to exist as an athlete, and as a person!

      In Ufa, for Radulov you will not shake hands .... wink
      So you are a comrade too close to take "big sport" to the body.
      I think that at work or at work mements, you can lay out on the abusive not in the "basement floor".
      And the "stars" have nerves shattered by endless training (rehearsals) and taking stimulating "drugs".
      Tarasov, Yakushev, Tikhonov and so on think exclusively on "literary" dialogues built?
      I heard and saw how Ovechkin anneals, Yashin, Kovalchuk, and I don’t pour kakami in them. And what about the stars of the movie-pop-pop and so on. just a hint and will not continue.
      Take them as they are in the main field.
      Hockey player in the arena, Artist on stage and so on.
  • Denis
    Denis 16 February 2014 13: 01
    +29
    Quote: siberalt
    If the goalkeeper himself shifts the goal, then they appointed a bullet.
  • CALL.
    CALL. 16 February 2014 13: 42
    0
    Quote: siberalt
    If the goalkeeper himself shifts the goal, then they appointed a bullet.

    Or they gave a fine for two minutes.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 16 February 2014 13: 46
      +4
      yes there is no "or". only a small fine and that's it! one blurted out in the morning, other glors plus. you may not be biased to look, based on the rules. how some children behave. never gave a bullet in such cases-HE WRITTEN BIRD
      1. 31231
        31231 16 February 2014 14: 26
        +1
        yes there is no "or". only a small fine and that's it!

        By the way, the repetition shows that Quick not only drove a shield into the shifted bar, but also pushed it with a trap. Maybe not on purpose. But as they say, this does not add honesty to the Americans.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 16 February 2014 14: 32
          0
          such moments can be found in almost every match, the contact with the goal occurs more than once during the match. There is such a system that you need to not only iron the gates, but also raise them or push them in order to get the rod out of the hole. Honestly, it’s even interesting how he pushed them. he didn’t bother much.
          1. askold
            askold 16 February 2014 20: 04
            +3
            Here, there is a reason for another sensor. Let’s call it conditionally, the goal position sensor. And this is a completely solvable problem. In football, finally, after long discussions and annoying mistakes of the referees, a video replay will appear, why not change something in hockey?
  • Yuriy3005
    Yuriy3005 16 February 2014 14: 11
    +2
    It’s better to be judged in a group tournament than at the playoff stage, but if we meet from the United States in the playoffs, not a single reptile will dare judge us.
  • Sandov
    Sandov 16 February 2014 14: 58
    +2
    Quote: siberalt
    Something like this.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/118/zdii158.jpg

    If the goalkeeper himself shifts the goal, then they appointed a bullet.

    This crap with a goal does not surprise me anymore. Who are we dealing with? Everything is clear to everyone.
  • AVV
    AVV 16 February 2014 16: 18
    0
    From mattresses, anything you can expect, from provocations to direct forgery !!! What ultimately happened !!!
  • moremansf
    moremansf 16 February 2014 19: 55
    +1
    They do not like Russia in America !!!!!!!!!
  • papas-57
    papas-57 16 February 2014 20: 05
    +1
    A small clarification - Only Russia can be condemned AT ANY Olympics (fame and honor to our officials from sports)
  • Samy
    Samy 16 February 2014 06: 23
    +8
    Yes it was. But why discuss it on Military Review? Do not forgive? For every missed puck on a rocket to Washington?
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 16 February 2014 07: 07
      +27
      Quote: Samy
      Yes it was. But why discuss it on Military Review?

      Any Olympiad is politics on a planetary scale! Remember the opening of the Olympiad, how much mud was watered us, and I am silent about the 5th column! Judging by the comments of people from other countries, they finally saw the real Russia!
      1. Name
        Name 16 February 2014 07: 58
        +4
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Any Olympics is a policy

        Although this should not be so in principle, but if such refereeing is in the final ... the work of the goalkeeper ... And I saw that the goalkeeper "took off" the gate ....
        1. sergey32
          sergey32 16 February 2014 08: 54
          +16
          Well, how not to discuss it. I remember how it was disgusting when twelve years ago our skaters were forced to climb the podium for the second time to give the second gold to the ame-ras at their Olympiad. And now they spat on our face with our refereeing. Die again?
          1. Grenader
            Grenader 16 February 2014 09: 39
            +24
            Now, if the judge was Russian and did not score a goal against the American goal, the high would stand to heaven. Put on the mast an American judge (never interested) the top of impudence. Not only did he not count the goal, he still did not notice the removal at the end of the game. The Americans are a lying, despicable nation, even in sport their duplicity is manifested, they never honestly do anything, they always try to slander, deceive.
            Maybe wipe off in the end ?!
            1. rerbi
              rerbi 16 February 2014 10: 20
              +18
              there is a concept - a shameful defeat ... well, now a concept has appeared - a shameful victory ... let some shameful ones disappear ...
              1. Orang
                Orang 16 February 2014 10: 37
                +14
                They will not rub off, they will rejoice and have fun. Victory at any cost, any meanness and forgery, it does not matter. Anglo-Saxons, however. Ours need to win by a wide margin so that there are no such situations.
                1. Serg 122
                  Serg 122 16 February 2014 10: 56
                  0
                  Ours need to win by a wide margin so that there are no such situations.

                  And how to do this if the pucks do not count? Did you see how our President squinted slyly at the end of the match? And he said: "that, never mind ..." Not everything is so simple there
              2. ankh-andrej
                ankh-andrej 16 February 2014 11: 01
                +11
                Conversations will be forgotten, the result will remain. This has been confirmed for years.
          2. Windbreak
            Windbreak 16 February 2014 18: 02
            0
            Quote: sergey32
            to give the second gold ame-ram at their olympiad.
            The second gold was given to Canadians, not Americans
        2. Hleb
          Hleb 16 February 2014 09: 04
          +3
          ) even before the finals there may be something interesting. if we do Slovaks today, we can reach the Finns in the quarter finals. if we beat the Finns, then in the semifinals we can get to Canadians
        3. Insectid
          Insectid 16 February 2014 09: 38
          +27
          Quote: name
          And I saw that the goalkeeper "took off" the gate ...

          Not only you ...
          1
          1. Serg 122
            Serg 122 16 February 2014 10: 59
            +17
            Especially the hockey players themselves said that this goalkeeper is not the first time! But the referee does not see .... The judge on the soap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            1. Serg 122
              Serg 122 16 February 2014 11: 40
              +3
              If you can’t say anything about Quick, the judges just missed the wrong goal setting. They should be blamed for the fact that Tyutin did not become the hero of the match - in Quick's conscience, if there is anything, then it is only a “little sports trick”, as football commentators usually say.
              This is how ...
            2. Ptah
              Ptah 16 February 2014 17: 55
              +3
              Quote: Serg 122
              this goalkeeper is not the first time!

              Remember. "Once - not pid *** s". Then it is already a force of habit. We will write down the anamnesis and make a diagnosis. We rely on "traditional medicine" in the person of the Russian "respected sports fans" he meets on the narrow path (as Guberniev says).
              The next match he will "judge" within the framework of the "Chess tournament in the trauma ward" ...., whistling sadly from one physiological hole. recourse
              Quote: Serg 122
              Judge on the soap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              Really .... belay Well this cannot be ... what
      2. alone
        alone 16 February 2014 12: 17
        -16%
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Any Olympiad is politics on a planetary scale! Remember the opening of the Olympiad, how much mud was watered us, and I am silent about the 5th column! Judging by the comments of people from other countries, they finally saw the real Russia!


        Maxim, the opening of the Olympics is unreal Russia. Show me any other city where so much money has been spent, don’t need to deceive yourself. The Olympics is the Olympics. And what is Russia like, all citizens of Russia know this.
        1. alone
          alone 16 February 2014 16: 46
          -3
          belay I don’t know what, in front of every Russian window every day what is happening on the day of the opening of the Olympiad is happening.

          Minusniks, do YOU ​​really have every day of life as the opening day of the Olympiad?
    2. rumatam
      rumatam 16 February 2014 11: 05
      +6
      do not like the article, do not read and write, but silently.
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 16 February 2014 12: 39
      +5
      Quote: Samy
      For every missed puck on a rocket to Washington?

      One will not be enough. Like there in a joke: they sent a fool for a bottle to the store, so he bought ONE!
  • Hleb
    Hleb 16 February 2014 06: 24
    +15
    Yes, do not dramatize too much. The judge could be blamed for the fact that the whistle did not sound during the goal shift. The fact that the goal was not defended as a result is within the framework of the rules. And then another person sits on the video review and he makes a decision, and not American. (could have been defended if desired, but ...)
    "The representative of the IIHF Referee Committee, Konstantin Komissarov, confirmed that the decision made by judges Brad Mayer (USA) and Markus Winnerborg (Sweden) was correct and that the proper procedure for contacting the video referee was followed, "the official statement says."
    you need to work on the implementation of the majority, you need to score and not go away as Radulov did.
    Americans have a very agile team. Pros from this match may still turn out to be more significant in the end than unpleasant moments
    (well, there’s Bure talking about it)
    but in general it’s interesting that the judges from the NHL, and the cancellation of the goal was according to the IIHF
  • Smirnov Vadim
    16 February 2014 06: 34
    +32
    The plot was prepared for "Weekly summary". But since the topic is very hot and there will be many comments - posted separately.

    Yes, this does not apply to the subject of the site, but we have a purely male audience, in the vast majority of which are patriotic and will still discuss this match in comments in other articles. Therefore, this note appeared.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 16 February 2014 08: 49
      +15
      Quote: Smirnov Vadim
      Smirnov Vadim



      Vadim good day. Once again amazed at the wisdom of admins.

      True rubbed and frayed. There is a goal and no goal. Nothing. as one of the fans said, a cold shower is sober. I wish you to meet in the finals. It will not even be motivation, but supermotivation. I bet that something will happen to TJ during the game. I will root for the Slovenes. Our arbiter to the Slovenes to help 6 field so to speak.

      Well, Americans, well, people. Well, why such a feeling of disgust cause. Well zapadlo contact in everything already.

      Vadim, can I reset me again?
      1. Fin
        Fin 16 February 2014 11: 06
        +5
        Quote: vorobey
        Well, Americans, well, people. Well, why such a feeling of disgust cause. Well zapadlo contact in everything already.

        That's for sure. Although some people write here that they are normal boys. But you look at them as ready to throw anyone. Yes, and a friend, the captain of a ship from Europe, walks, always warms up his attitude towards them with his stories about their arrogance and arrogance.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 16 February 2014 12: 12
          +7
          Quote: Fin
          about their arrogance and arrogance.


          a couple of years ago he told how, while still being a green reckless flyer, he kicked the NATO American inspector. I felt like a hero because even the Germans grinned approvingly, but it turned out to be simply dirty. repeat
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        3. Day 11
          Day 11 16 February 2014 13: 21
          +5
          I got a call from a Canadian brother yesterday, right after the game, so he (the hockey maniac, however, like all Canadians) told about the Yankees --- In short, these are the ONLY who can play and not notice the disapproving hum of fans in ANY country in the world! They ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE they’ll play like they’re at home! They shit and smeared all our insults against them! Tomorrow they will play in Somalia? -no question, they will give the same. Why? --- Because they know if there is any provocation-incident- - 6 American Navy will do and roll this country into the ground! That's how they are ALL ideologically processed !!! Canadians (!) And those little ones piss
          1. alone
            alone 16 February 2014 13: 45
            +7
            Hi Denis! How are you?

            Yes, professional athletes on the drum where they perform, once I got to the game, we need to play to the end, and we have to give 100%. count? I think not.
            Well, judging by the American, let’s forget last year the failure at the World Cup USA-Russia was 8-3 or 8-4, there was also an American judging there? Empty talk. You have to play, moreover, a team game, and not an individual game.
            1. Day 11
              Day 11 16 February 2014 13: 54
              +2
              Hi Omar. hi Absolutely correctly said! Looked?
              1. alone
                alone 16 February 2014 16: 50
                +5
                Quote: Den 11
                Hi Omar. Absolutely correctly said! Looked?


                But what about Denis! I looked to the end. I’m watching everything that’s possible. I’ll tell you only one. So far I don’t see much joy. Complete collapse of biathletes and skiers. Hockey players have already lost. The game isn’t the same for men. Besides several athletes, I don’t see the pressure, the pressure of what happened before in Soviet times.
                But there is still time, I hope to draw conclusions. But the Minister of Sports after the Olympus must be driven to the neck.
                1. Ptah
                  Ptah 16 February 2014 17: 44
                  +1
                  Quote: lonely
                  But there is still time, I hope to draw conclusions. But the Minister of Sports after the Olympus must be driven to the neck.

                  You mean Mutka? .... Rotten number ....
                  Already tried to drive after "Vank". I still remember his answer when the journalists hinted at him at the airport (?).
                  His answer was both predictable and cynical at the same time.
                  / I can not vouch for the accuracy of citation /
                  "- Yes, I would have left ... And what will it change ..."
                  1. alone
                    alone 16 February 2014 19: 07
                    +3
                    Quote: Ptah
                    Are you talking about Mutka? ....


                    No, I’m talking about the game. I just watched the Russia-Slovakia game. Bullet winning.
                    Although you put 1000 minuses, but this is Failed. No offense. They don’t play hockey. And they don’t win gold with such a game.
                    1. Hleb
                      Hleb 16 February 2014 19: 13
                      -1
                      there was no desire to set, but why not
                      1. alone
                        alone 16 February 2014 19: 21
                        +3
                        Well, put Gleb, it’s the right of anyone. But it doesn’t change anything.)) I even dare to say that, deep down, you agree with my words. You just don’t know what to do with anger, because you yourself know that you won’t go far with such a game! !
                      2. Hleb
                        Hleb 16 February 2014 19: 29
                        +1
                        (do not call me to YOU. we are men)
                        game .... but don’t push it today. there is no sincere experience in your words. there is no it! no!
                      3. alone
                        alone 16 February 2014 19: 45
                        +3
                        Quote: Gleb
                        But don’t push on it today. There is no sincere experience in your words. There is no it! No!


                        And the meaning of sincere experience is what? In the mate? Maybe I should tear and throw here? I’m not going to. I don’t have that five of you Krutov-Makarov-Larionov, Kasatonov-Fetisov. Here I was tearing metal and those. But for those ballerinas with clubs, as VAF correctly put it, kindly. I'm already too old. to risk so much with my heart. so you can roll back to a heart attack.
                      4. Cynic
                        Cynic 16 February 2014 19: 56
                        +4
                        Quote: Gleb
                        there is no sincere experience in your words.

                        Sorry, I will get in without asking, but you know, but you are right about me.
                        No sincerity!
                        When these same commodity-money relations entered hockey. Who has a thicker wallet and the team is cooler.
                        There were only international games left, but even that, och-chchen sometimes there is a thrift in the game for oneself.
                        Eh.
                      5. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 16 February 2014 20: 16
                        +2
                        Quote: Cynic
                        When these same commodity-money relations entered hockey. Who has a thicker wallet and the team is cooler.

                        Well, don’t do that ... Really, in this regard, are Americans more patriots than ours? There are two components - equipment and motivation.
                        I will not speak for the first - not a hockey player. But with motivation - to put it mildly, to put it mildly ...
                        Bykov's debut is success, then failure.
                        Zina has a debut success, the last world championship said everything.
                        Watching Russia's failures in traditional winter sports, one gets the impression of a crisis in the coaching department. The situation with coaches in football is an indicator of that. I read an interview with S. Andreev on the topic of obtaining coaching licenses and qualifications of "licensees". The same eggs - a side view, as with licensing and training of pilots in RosAviation.
                      6. Cynic
                        Cynic 16 February 2014 20: 59
                        +2
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Really, in this regard, the Americans are patriots more than ours?

                        While ours go to BAT to play in their teams and their league, and not vice versa
                        And this chaos to humiliate Russia in the late 80s, all 90s, and even zero!
                        It has only recently started talking at the state level about the national idea, hmm, or rather, its absence. Yusovtsy never suffered self-abasement, unlike Russia.
                      7. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 16 February 2014 21: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: Cynic
                        Yusovtsy never suffered self-abasement, unlike Russia.

                        Somewhere like that ...
                        But I adhere to the idea of ​​a coaching crisis.
          2. IOwTZ
            IOwTZ 17 February 2014 17: 26
            +1
            Quote: lonely
            Quote: Ptah
            Are you talking about Mutka? ....


            No, I’m talking about the game. I just watched the Russia-Slovakia game. Bullet winning.
            Although you put 1000 minuses, but this is Failed. No offense. They don’t play hockey. And they don’t win gold with such a game.


            I ask you, do not make hasty conclusions soon.
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  • Insectid
    Insectid 16 February 2014 09: 45
    +6
    Quote: Smirnov Vadim
    Yes, this does not concern the subject of the site, but we have a purely male audience,

    Good afternoon, Vadim! Not at all a MEN'S ...
    In the light of such a momentous event as the Olympics, this topic is also interesting for a female audience (other forums show).
    I noticed that the "fair half" also comes to VO.
    Quote: Smirnov Vadim
    discuss this match will still be in the comments in other articles. Therefore, this note appeared.

    Absolutely the right decision. Thank you for understanding!!!
  • Egoza
    Egoza 16 February 2014 10: 34
    +10
    Quote: Smirnov Vadim
    but we have a purely male audience, the vast majority are patriotic and will still discuss this match

    Sorry, Vadim, but you are wrong! Women also love hockey! repeat And when "our people are offended" ...
    "What kind of shameless lawlessness is happening in reality !? Well, for what purpose I will roll up my sleeves and go with a hook ... And do not stand in the way of grandmother!"
    And I completely agree with her !!!! hi
  • PiP
    PiP 16 February 2014 12: 13
    +3
    Quote: Smirnov Vadim
    Yes, this does not concern the theme of the site, but we have a purely male audience, the vast majority are patriotic and will still discuss this match in the comments in other articles. Therefore, singing

    Ie how 'does not concern the subject of the site'? A REAL BATTLE!
  • cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 16 February 2014 13: 49
    +2
    Quote: Smirnov Vadim
    . Therefore, this note appeared.

    It’s very good that this morning an article appeared, we’ll boil a boil and with a normal attitude we will cheer for ours today in the game with the Slavs, by the way they are not gifts, they will rest specifically. Hello everyone and good luck to our game today. drinks
  • Hleb
    Hleb 16 February 2014 06: 36
    +10
    Well, since the topic concerns the Olympic Games, the American sports resources in the medal standings put Russia in first place))
    easily so moved the Germans



    fans are united by sport
    1. Ximik-degozator
      Ximik-degozator 16 February 2014 07: 33
      +5
      In my opinion, this is more objective than taking into account only gold medals. The medal is the medal and the difference between gold, silver and bronze is often illusory
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 16 February 2014 07: 45
        +7
        I absolutely agree! Our presence in the winners speaks of real potential. And then take the Dutch for example, if I’m not mistaken, they took all the golds in one form. The Germans are also not very versatile - they have four gold in sledges. Three Canadians took in freestyle.
        we have medals in six forms. gold in four
    2. Altona
      Altona 16 February 2014 11: 36
      +6
      I "mentally" add Belarusian and Kazakh medals to feel the sports power of the former USSR and the current union state ... Dasha Domracheva is a great athlete! hi
    3. xackera
      xackera 16 February 2014 12: 56
      +1
      Looks like with arithmetic the Yankees are very tight)
      1. Altona
        Altona 16 February 2014 14: 07
        +2
        Quote: xackera
        Looks like with arithmetic the Yankees are very tight)

        -----------------------
        Not tight ... Quite normal summation ... The Yankee principle is a common mess ... In everything ... In Murmansk, American sailors from the Allied convoy ate our borscht, porridge and compote together - they dumped everything into one plate (V. Pikul "Boys with bows") ... In principle, there was a point in this, suddenly, as if in a fever of battle, they would not let them finish, it would be a shame ...
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 16 February 2014 14: 16
          +1
          why porridge? just in general they are in the top three, and in gold on which? that's all
          1. Altona
            Altona 16 February 2014 17: 13
            +2
            Quote: Gleb
            why porridge? just in general they are in the top three, and in gold on which? that's all

            ______________________

            Belarusian three "gold" and "bronze" to our 16 medals to add and the Union State is already ahead of the whole planet ... 7 gold, 7 silver, 6 bronze ... At this moment ...
            Wait, see who the national toad is strangling ...
    4. xan
      xan 16 February 2014 20: 16
      +1
      Quote: Gleb
      Well, since the topic concerns the Olympic Games, the American sports resources in the medal standings put Russia in first place))

      apparently you can’t argue against mathematics, here you can’t move the gates and you can’t put your own judge.
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 16 February 2014 06: 55
    +12
    The whole question is that the violation is noticed when necessary. We’ll be worse. Russia is in third place in the medal standings. Some have not had a day in the morning. Now the bile will flow. Well, the real sick. drinks
  • santush
    santush 16 February 2014 07: 01
    +9
    How is it? A US match is judged by the Americans? Where is our federation looking? This is OUR Olympiad! We are the hosts! And here really, we just wiped our feet! Hockey players, anger, insolence, confidence that the enemy will be defeated, the victory will be ours !!!!!!!!!!!!Go Russia!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. krpmlws
      krpmlws 16 February 2014 08: 19
      +7
      By definition, there should not be an Amerovskiy referee for the match, to present the opposite situation; in the USA, the USA-Russia match is judged by a Russian one, it is impossible. to take, they are given the opportunity to create arbitrariness by our loshars and traitors.
      1. Orang
        Orang 16 February 2014 10: 42
        +3
        Quote: krpmlws
        To bend ours from the federation with cancer and to each to shoot bullets with the whole team (

        The old-fashioned way, by the way. Flogged earlier. If it does not work through the head, they clog the mind through the back gate. Our sports bureaucrats would be useful.
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 16 February 2014 11: 59
          +3
          They could call a neutral to the extreme: an Austrian or an Italian ....
  • demel2
    demel2 16 February 2014 07: 09
    +6
    Of course, it’s not necessary to dramatize, but it is necessary to arrange the analysis, so that it wouldn’t be common. But we are always silent in such situations, and then we are indignant at why they condemn us. And if the gate is moved, the game should be stopped, if the judges did not notice it, then This indicates a low qualification of the brigade, therefore, it is necessary to achieve. Disqualification of these judges, so that from now on this does not happen again. IMHO
  • Alex Nick
    Alex Nick 16 February 2014 07: 12
    +12
    And what did the judge do not give the whistle before if the gates were moved. Like just in case, or what?
  • ochakow703
    ochakow703 16 February 2014 07: 19
    +27
    Guys, everything is fine. It's time to get used to the fact that where there are mattresses, there are lies, provocations and the destruction of everything. They are at the genetic level. I am one hundred percent sure that the goal was specially moved by the goalkeeper. The whole alignment for this. Score 2: 2, until the end of time is not enough, to get a goal is a disaster. We move the gate ... and calmly smoke, one goal (plant) will not be counted. You are not meaner than situevina. Stripes once again confirmed their jackalism.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 16 February 2014 08: 20
      +10
      Quote: ochakow703
      . Stripes once again confirmed their jackalism.

      And in confirmation "In the US, they cut out all the positive about Russia from Sochi-2014
      American social networks are shaken by the scandal over the broadcast of the ceremony on the territory of the United States - the hashtag #NBCFail has even appeared in the global trends of Twitter. Recall that many Americans watching the Olympics even had to use live broadcasts from Canada or the UK. NBC, which bought the exclusive rights to broadcast the Games, not only showed the ceremony with a 10-hour delay, but also cut out all the positive messages about Russia. "
      Completely here
      1. Grenader
        Grenader 16 February 2014 10: 38
        +4
        What a fucking freedom of speech they have.
        Quote: Tersky
        And in confirmation, "In the USA, they cut out all the positive about Russia from Sochi-2014-
        American social networks are shaken by the scandal over the broadcast of the ceremony on the territory of the United States - the hashtag #NBCFail has even appeared in the global trends of Twitter. Recall that many Americans watching the Olympics even had to use live broadcasts from Canada or the UK. NBC, which bought the exclusive rights to broadcast the Games, not only showed the ceremony with a 10-hour delay, but also cut out all the positive messages about Russia. "

        What a fucking freedom of speech they have.
        1. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 16 February 2014 11: 38
          +6
          I really want to talk about freedom of speech separately. My friend and I are now preparing a funny material "Americans at home, in Europe and in Russia." Based on my own observations. If they are allowed to place such a thing here, it will be very funny. If the participants in the article are allowed to post photos (which is unlikely) - there will be a laugh at all.
  • Ximik-degozator
    Ximik-degozator 16 February 2014 07: 29
    +9
    I am sure that if in such a situation they canceled the puck at our goal, then the bribes ... the Nderovichi would actively call on us to self-flagellation with shouts like: “Russia cannot honestly win, the judges have been bought” and “we should be ashamed of such a victory. " Still, when teams of this level play and the game is on an equal footing, the refereeing must be impeccable.
  • saag
    saag 16 February 2014 08: 04
    +1
    The Olympics are no longer a competition of athletes, but a game of politicians, judging by the number of gold medals, the championship here is not for Russia, more and more attention was paid to the "wrapper" of the games than to real sports work
  • Thirsty for wind
    Thirsty for wind 16 February 2014 08: 09
    +13
    It turned out curious, the goalkeeper moves the gate, the judges do not notice this.
    It turns out scored goals are no longer counted. Normal little move.
    They are crooks and crooks. And this is happening at the Olympics!
    1. Beon
      Beon 16 February 2014 11: 10
      +6
      By the way, these “referees” have not yet noticed when Malkin lying on the ice was beaten with a club.
  • poccinin
    poccinin 16 February 2014 08: 16
    +4
    then our skier was pushed to the finish line. in the sprint. they lodged a protest. But the gates moved the mess and not the competition. Do we need such competitions?
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 16 February 2014 11: 39
      +4
      Are needed. Competitions are needed. Judges are not. Its feces above the roof.
  • ZU-23
    ZU-23 16 February 2014 08: 18
    +5
    It all reminded me of Geneva in Syria and the judge is Ban Ki-moon, we put all our trump cards but are defeated and the question remains open, well, the whole world knows that we are right. Well, nothing, justice will prevail, Russia Forward !!! Amerikosam important victory by any means. I’m not even surprised if we go to the finals and they take gold on anabolic steroids, then all kinds of doping tests do not care, because they took gold and pleased their people.
  • delfinN
    delfinN 16 February 2014 08: 34
    +14
    I've already seen dozens of times how petty judges from a gamer condemned our teams. This is especially true for football. And in response - silence! When a Swiss alternatively gifted air traffic controller brought down two planes in the sky, one of which was with our kids, the father of the victims did the right thing. Because to wait for justice from the West (l) a - do not respect yourself. Yes, I served, but the Europian took it for granted, without a salivary squeal. Conclusion: until we punish such "judges" (of course better than their family members), the lawlessness will continue.
    Photo slammed on another branch.
    1. Orang
      Orang 16 February 2014 10: 48
      +12
      It’s overkill with death, but if some kind person fills the face of a bad judge, it will be very good.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 16 February 2014 20: 41
        +3
        Quote: Orang
        It’s overkill with death, but if some kind person fills the face of a bad judge, it will be very good.
        good
        I wonder if Western media cite comments from the VO resource? laughing
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 16 February 2014 20: 54
          +3
          About quoting, HZ! And what they read is 100%
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 16 February 2014 21: 07
          +3
          Quote: Corsair
          I wonder if Western media cite comments from the VO resource?

          I don’t know about the Western media, but in the morning at the bus stop for some reason we were very busy discussing the future of these hockey referees.
          Options _ Falling from your own height / Speeding / Inaccurate handling of electrical appliances / ... and all fatal bully
    2. Insectid
      Insectid 16 February 2014 11: 01
      +1
      Quote: delfinN
      Conclusion: until we punish such "judges" (certainly better than their family members)

      I wish you not to be among any "judges"! Or you don't have family members.
      How do you differ from these -
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rK_EnuzQ0YU
    3. PValery53
      PValery53 16 February 2014 14: 18
      +1
      For deliberate unjust refereeing it is necessary to punish all the judges, and when and if they become terrorists, then their family members.
  • PValery53
    PValery53 16 February 2014 08: 35
    +15
    Something rare and interesting "coincidence" happened at the Russia-USA match. 1) The head judge was from the opponent's country; 2) the judges "did not notice" the gate shift; 3) and when a goal was scored into this goal, then the goal was “noticed”. Are they kidding me ?! "Once she died, she died", Since they did not notice the shift of the gate, then count a goal there, and they "rub" us some chukhnya: here they noticed, here they did not notice! Judge - for soap! - Disqualify and expel from the Olympics under the hooting! We do not need such a "game" (of judges) (N. Ozerov)!
    1. Beon
      Beon 16 February 2014 10: 33
      +12
      Demand restoration of the results of the match 3: 2 in favor of Russia (there was no whistle, the game was not stopped, there were no violations by the Russian players at the time of scoring), cancel the shootout. Arbitrators DISQUALIFY (both of them (Swedes for myopia and lack of principle), American deported with non grata person status.
      PS. It is necessary to bite, this is a matter of principle. We do not need such hockey (with "our American referees" and dirty tricks).
    2. Bort radist
      Bort radist 16 February 2014 14: 54
      +3
      Quote: PValery53
      If you don’t notice the goal shift, then count the goal there,

      For deliberate movement of the gate, the goalkeeper is entitled to 2 minutes. So they saw but kept silent, and when necessary they "saw the light".
  • PSih2097
    PSih2097 16 February 2014 08: 37
    +1
    It turns out that, excuse us, our feet were wiped out on our land - in front of, by the way, the president and prime minister of the country. And now what? - should we shake off the dirt and wipe the snot, pretending that nothing bad happened? .. Are we going to merge our own team, which was laid out before the last second in front of the fans? ..

    Well, Ivanov has already reassured the type ...
    [media = http: //www.vesti.ru/only_video.html? vid = 577207]

    Sergey Ivanov: not everything is lost for Russian hockey players
    Posted by: Sergey Brilev
    According to the head of the Kremlin administration, Sergei Ivanov, the unscored goal in the Russia-USA match surprised him very much. It was not re-displayed on the big screen. According to him, the Russian team played well, and this game does not solve much.

    http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=577207&cid=1
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 16 February 2014 08: 42
    +1
    also looked yesterday. pulled all. but if you think about it ... the Americans lost to the Americans (offensively, of course). but THESE are cosmopolitan athletes. I do not think this is our team. previously played for the honor and glory of the country. Now for the money and personal glory.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 16 February 2014 08: 44
      0
      you write nonsense
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 16 February 2014 08: 59
        +2
        Quote: Gleb
        you write nonsense

        well, that’s nonsense in my thoughts. ok I'm not a heart attack
      2. Sharingan
        Sharingan 16 February 2014 13: 51
        0
        Yeah, nonsense. 18 of our players are NHL players, except that a Russian passport.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 16 February 2014 13: 54
          +2
          and what? what what NHLers?
          1. Sharingan
            Sharingan 16 February 2014 16: 08
            0
            Read above:
            Americans lost to Americans (offensively, of course). but THESE cosmopolitan athletes
    2. Snoop
      Snoop 16 February 2014 11: 06
      +7
      Yeah, especially Radulov, did not understand the meaning of his 2 fouls. Optional violations, I understand when they break the rules in a goal situation, and then? No danger, and he knocks down with a stick. Payment? Or just fucked up? Knowing that the Yankee judge and every violation of the Russian team will clearly record?
      1. xan
        xan 16 February 2014 20: 12
        +1
        Quote: Snoop
        Yeah, especially Radulov, did not understand the meaning of his 2 fouls.

        He played calmly with the Slovaks. In general, Radulov is very useful outside the gates and on the spot. But the nerves must be removed.
    3. UzRus
      UzRus 16 February 2014 11: 31
      +3
      Americans lost to Americans (offensively, of course). but THESE cosmopolitan athletes. previously played for the honor and glory of the COUNTRY. Now for the money and personal glory. - There is nothing to add to what has been said.
  • delfinN
    delfinN 16 February 2014 08: 47
    +2
    Quote: PSih2097

    Well, Ivanov has already reassured the type ...

    Yes, this Ivanov went into the crack, yksperd, Mlyn.
    http://politikus.ru/v-rossii/12901-vyacheslav-fetisov-amerikanskiy-sudya-s-dikta
    tom-nhl-pora-zakanchivat.html
    1. PValery53
      PValery53 16 February 2014 09: 11
      +4
      Ivanov, like, gave the command: "Wipe yourself off!" - Well, fruit!
  • akmoa781
    akmoa781 16 February 2014 09: 01
    +4
    But we still scored our goal with Russia, there is no doubt about that, but apparently from the feelings of hospitality we decided to give the victory to the Americans, probably from the point of view of politics this is probably right, but where is the sport then, and why then are Olympic trailers honest without a compromise ?!
    1. Insectid
      Insectid 16 February 2014 09: 54
      +3
      Quote: akmoa781
      But our goal was still scored by Russia, there is no doubt about that, but apparently out of hospitality they decided to give the victory to the Americans

      And what remains for us? Just think so ...
      Another point.
      Wikipedia:
      A goal must be canceled in the following cases:
      If the player of the attacking team intentionally hits the puck with his foot (or skate), with his hand, or the puck is in the gate in some other way

      Is this not the essence of the game - "INTENTIONALLY place the puck in the opponents' goal."
      Here we are counting "from the skate", or not. And there was movement towards the gate.
  • Zubr
    Zubr 16 February 2014 09: 05
    +11
    In general, the Americans behaved rudely. Yes, and achieved these two goals only in numerical advantage. Well, what can I say more, ours played brilliantly !!!! Keep it up guys, nothing, WE will get our "PARTNERS" in the final !! SURE OF IT!
  • Rusal
    Rusal 16 February 2014 09: 16
    +4
    At the last Olympics or the World Cup, the situation was the same with the judges - the American judged and there were also claims to refereeing (I don’t remember what exactly happened).
    Or maybe just a blue judge? And sneaky revenge?
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 16 February 2014 11: 41
      +3
      He is a patriot of his team laughing
  • Hey
    Hey 16 February 2014 09: 32
    +6
    So that there are no such "surprises", it is necessary to score and score goals, so that the gap is not in a ghostly one washer, but at least three. And then such attempts of overseas arbitrators will be on the drum.
    1. podolski_cky
      podolski_cky 16 February 2014 09: 45
      -1
      plus
      because ours played badly, and the puck wasn’t counted by the rules either
      1. Volodin
        Volodin 16 February 2014 09: 56
        +9
        we played bad
        Are you lying down with a beer on the couch identified?

        the puck was not counted, too, according to the rules
        Have you read the hockey rules at least once in your life? It is immediately clear that no. And there is such a "fad": a deliberate shift of the gate (that's bad luck - the judges did not notice it on the replay). Watch a couple of NHL games with goalkeeper Quick at your leisure, and you will see how you can move your goal "according to the rules" in the right direction ...
        1. Insectid
          Insectid 16 February 2014 10: 05
          0
          Quote: Volodin
          And there is such a "fad": deliberate shift of the gate

          I did not find anything about the sanctions against the one who "deliberately moved" and everything related to such moments.
          If you have info, please share. hi

          PS. The goal was shifted 11 seconds before the shot being discussed.
          1. Volodin
            Volodin 16 February 2014 10: 16
            +16
            From the rules (IIHF):

            A free-throw can be assigned in situations where ... (among other things) for deliberately shifting the gate to the defending player or goalkeeper during the shot.

            If the collars were moved 11 seconds before the throw, then what were the judges doing during those 11 seconds? If you did not notice the gate shift, then you need to be honest and fix the capture when the red light comes on. But "honest" judges at the Russia-USA match are apparently not from this life ...
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 16 February 2014 10: 41
              +4
              Quote: Volodin
              But "honest" judges at the Russia-USA match - apparently, this is not from this life ...

              ++++! Why do you think Obama did not come? I was afraid that the face-faces would be stuffed for his "valiant judges" and all the pussies! Fans - they are ... wassat
              1. Very old
                Very old 16 February 2014 10: 54
                +2
                Egoza and Volodin

                In ancient times, Mark Twain: "We are Anglo-Saxons, and if the Anglo-Saxons need something, he goes and takes." M.TV. quoted amerovsky general

                Is it one?
                1. andrei332809
                  andrei332809 16 February 2014 12: 32
                  +1
                  Quote: Very old
                  "We are Anglo-Saxons, and if the Anglo-Saxons need anything, he goes and takes"

                  and in person ?!
              2. Altona
                Altona 16 February 2014 11: 53
                +6
                Quote: Egoza
                all the tricks! Fans - they are ..

                __________________________
                That's right, Lena ... Very correct idiom - Podlyanki ... After this epic meeting, in which we were given a fail with a clear advantage of us, I typed in the search engine "Salt Lake City Olympics" and again made sure that the 2002 Olympics were needed to compare with Berlin 1936 ... Not a single Games were noted with great nastiness and meanness ... Detection of doping an hour before the relay at our skiers (at the "gishpanz" Johan Mülleg darbopoietin was noticed only a few years after the races), trampled our Slutskaya alone , did not count Samsonov's puck in the 1/4 final match with the USA ... Freestyle girl Koroleva was not even released in the semifinals ... The second gold for the Canadian pair Sale-Peletier is generally beyond the brink of good and evil, as is the gold in the dances of the pair of Dzhigurd-Peizer instead of Lobacheva-Averbukh ...
                So ... Nothing personal, just business ... Where the PodlYANKI can stick their brazen nose there will never be justice, only American vanity, meanness and lies ... For NBC, I immediately said that "honest and objective" works there. as Karlzeiss optics, Honored Liberal of All Russia Voldemar Posner ... So he POSNER the TV broadcast ... You can see where the ears grow from ...
                Oh, guys ... I forgot about hockey ... Something Kvik is absurdly large in size, he covers 60% of the gates only with his dimensions ... Did anyone check his shields and equipment? This "knight" of the gate ... fellow
                PS: Radulov had no attackers to sausage how much in vain, and the judge put a hook with a putter from the shoulder ... IMHO ...
            2. Hleb
              Hleb 16 February 2014 12: 49
              +2
              No, Alexey. Bullita simply couldn’t be here. The rules also say:
              Gate shift
              a) The player or goalkeeper intentionally shifting the goal from their established position must be superimposed:
              Minor penalty (2 ')
              _______
              b) If this action is performed by a defending player or goalkeeper in his defense zone during the last two minutes of the game or at any time of overtime, the Chief referee must provide the team that did not violate the rule with the right to fulfill:
              Free throw

              c) If the player controls the puck and there are no players of the opposite team between him and the opponent’s goal, and he has a real opportunity to take the goal, and the player or goalkeeper of the opposite team intentionally moves the goal from their established position, the Chief referee must provide the team that does not violate the rule with the right to fulfill:
              Free throw
              d) In the event that the goalkeeper was removed from the ice and the player of his team moves the goal from their established position, the Referee must award a goal to a team that does not violate the rule:
        2. podolski_cky
          podolski_cky 16 February 2014 10: 13
          -11%
          po tsreot shtol? who does not see beyond his nose?
          1. Volodin
            Volodin 16 February 2014 10: 18
            +8
            It is better to be a patriot than ... Tom (popular wisdom)
            1. podolski_cky
              podolski_cky 16 February 2014 12: 13
              -2
              here it’s a p. ozreot, not a patriot! who can only whine, that someone is always bothering them, instead of taking a sober look at the situation, that they played badly, that the same Americans in the majority showed hockey more interesting than ours, and if only our team played GOOD, the goal-shift incident did not affect the outcome of the match
              1. dmprt
                dmprt 16 February 2014 14: 28
                -1
                So, the results of matches are determined by the subjective opinion of individual characters (Russians played poorly, etc.), or, nevertheless, by the ratio of goals scored and missed, are you objective? ;)
                1. Sharingan
                  Sharingan 16 February 2014 18: 00
                  +2
                  Quote: dmprt
                  So, the results of matches are determined by the subjective opinion of individual characters (Russians played poorly, etc.), or, nevertheless, by the ratio of goals scored and missed, are you objective? ;)

                  The Americans won just goals. We have a majority that has not been realized twice, completely stupid violations of Radulov, which led to goals in our goal, the lack of team and positional play, which actually confirms the current game against Slovakia.
                  When our NHL players come to Russia a couple of days before the first match, which team can be discussed.
                  1. dmprt
                    dmprt 17 February 2014 11: 15
                    0
                    Quote: Sharingan
                    The Americans won just goals.

                    They won not by goals, but by credited goals. The quality of the game - yes, not perfect, no one argues. But here is a case of biased refereeing and, possibly, dirty methods of playing a sachean goalkeeper. Therefore, this unaccounted goal had a decisive influence on the outcome of the game.
        3. Sharingan
          Sharingan 16 February 2014 17: 17
          0
          Quote: Volodin
          And there is such a "fad": a deliberate shift of the gate (that's bad luck - the judges didn't even notice it on the replay)

          I am sure that the goalkeeper deliberately moved, you a beer expert couch?
      2. Beon
        Beon 16 February 2014 10: 51
        +6
        I've seen such "rules". The game was not stopped, this time. The goals were not moved by our players, and not at the moment the goal was scored, these are two (maybe they were moved at the moment of the second puck into our goal, and then what? So the goal was clean.
      3. andrei332809
        andrei332809 16 February 2014 11: 49
        -4
        Quote: podolski_cky
        ours played poorly, and the puck wasn’t counted by the rules either

        I don’t know about the rules, but they played badly (so to speak)
        py.sy I judge, of course, from an amateur-amateurish point of view
    2. UzRus
      UzRus 16 February 2014 09: 51
      +1
      Absolutely true!
  • UzRus
    UzRus 16 February 2014 09: 45
    -7
    It was necessary to score goals in the main time, and not to “play smart” later. Don't care what kind of referee on the field - his own or not, on the podium - the President himself! This alone should have stimulated! And after the game it is always very convenient to make excuses, looking down with indignation, offended, tiredly - either there was not enough strength, then there was not enough speed, then something was missed and not taken into account ... Not tired of making excuses for your shameful game? Whoop dancer always gets in the way. And these dancers are almost the same - hockey players and football players.
    1. xan
      xan 16 February 2014 20: 30
      0
      Quote: UzRus
      It was necessary to score goals in the main time, and not to “play smart” later.

      You know what, cool walker, go ka forest with your ratings and tips.
      Everyone should have equal conditions, but for some reason the Americans have more equal conditions.
      Naher such competitions where someone has a head start.
      And ours played better. only the majority of Americans were able to do something.
  • crasever
    crasever 16 February 2014 09: 46
    +8
    In football, ball hockey, basketball and other team sports, referees are of nationality. But in ice hockey they were denied this honor - they cannot, that is, a judge from the United States cannot proudly declare that he lives in America and breathes with the ideals of freedom ... But for the North American hockey teams there is an undoubted plus - why- then such rootless referees become for them, as it were, the sixth field players, and it will not be surprising if, in one of the matches "to take off," a cunning goalkeeper from the freest country in the world quickly moves the gate with a frame to the side, and a non-national referee even will not see the video replay ...
  • leonardo_1971
    leonardo_1971 16 February 2014 09: 50
    +11
    I almost broke the TV with anger !!! a vile nation! all my life on deceit. robberies!
  • PValery53
    PValery53 16 February 2014 09: 52
    +2
    Quote: delfinN
    Yes, this Ivanov went into the crack, yksperd, Mlyn.

    It turns out that Ivanov "gave" the command: "Wipe off!" - On the Russian viewer hr ... n put, or what?
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 16 February 2014 10: 12
      +3
      Quote: PValery53
      On the Russian viewer xp ... n put, or what?

      not the viewer - the prestige of the country and the country itself ...
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  • srha
    srha 16 February 2014 09: 52
    +3
    As experience has shown, these Russians can only be defeated if there is a judge, a handicap in one unscored goal and an undetected removal.
    1. PValery53
      PValery53 16 February 2014 17: 59
      0
      Well, poop! - In general, no words!
  • pensioner
    pensioner 16 February 2014 09: 54
    +5
    Our referees "choked" the whole game. But! The main feeling I endured after the game was almost humiliation. A young boy came out to shoot bullets from the Americans and showed HOW TO do it to all our vaunted superstars. Bobrovsky fell into a panic after the second shootout. We had to urgently release the reserve goalkeeper! Even if he is not stronger than Bobrovsky, SOMETHING had to be done
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 16 February 2014 10: 05
      +13
      Yuri, well, the "kid" by hockey standards is not so young - 28 this year (with a salary no less than ours from the NHL).

      Something had to be done
      Something had to be done before the match, when the referees were appointed. If it were not for the "mistake" of the judge, then there would not have been this stupid hassle with a series of shootouts.
      1. skyil
        skyil 16 February 2014 10: 30
        +4
        In in! and I'm talking about it, the current turns out we have no one to do this, so we hope for a chance!
      2. pensioner
        pensioner 16 February 2014 11: 28
        +6
        Quote: Volodin
        Yuri, well, the "kid" by hockey standards is not so young - 28 this year (with a salary no less than ours from the NHL).

        Good afternoon, Alexey! I didn’t know ... I seem to be interested in sports news all the time, but something his name is not at my ear ... Maybe it just opened a bit late? Well, like Yartsev in football at the time, for example ... Not the point. The problem of refereeing our teams in game sports in the near future DO NOT SOLVE! You just have to try to be a cut above the rest! We need to train with such frenzy with which we trained during the time of Tarasov-Tikhonov-Karpol-Lobanovsky-Gomelsky ... After all, this completely left our sport! Now the athlete is the same employee as the manager, for example. You have to live in sports! Only in this way can victories be achieved without regard to refereeing. I have many examples in my memory!
        1. PValery53
          PValery53 16 February 2014 18: 06
          0
          Citizen! Do you think that in case of their dishonest game, we need to "throw pearls in front of pigs" ?! - Something you are not quite in the subject ... - In fact, it is necessary to do the dishonest judge "UNFAVORABLE"! His skin will understand the "hint" a little later ...
      3. Altona
        Altona 16 February 2014 12: 41
        +2
        Quote: Volodin
        Something had to be done before the match, when the referees were appointed. If it were not for the "mistake" of the judge, then there would not have been this stupid hassle with a series of shootouts.

        ------------------------
        It was necessary to be more convincing in the attack and, again, defense ... defense, as always, is a common place ...
    2. Bort radist
      Bort radist 16 February 2014 14: 58
      +2
      Quote: retired
      After the second bullet, Bobrovsky fell into a panic.

      Two minutes before the end of the meeting, Beaver stood one on one. Our leaders did not score !!!
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 16 February 2014 16: 53
        +1
        Quote: Bort Radist
        Two minutes before the end of the meeting, Beaver stood one on one.

        Yes, I actually about the shootouts. With the naked eye, it was clear that Bobrovsky was panicky afraid of this guy!
        1. PValery53
          PValery53 16 February 2014 18: 11
          +1
          What a mess! A self-confident goalkeeper should, like a rabbit's boa constrictor, crush an opposing opponent! Snotty goalkeepers for a cannon shot should not be allowed to the gates of the Russian national team !!
  • skyil
    skyil 16 February 2014 10: 13
    +5
    The rules are rules, the question is, where were the judges during the gate shift (? 1), why only in this match, after our next puck, does the judge go to watch the video (? 2), and what for +++++ !, the only NHL judges on "your" match !? Malkin was beaten lying down, what miracles can we expect next? Our only wish is not to lose heart, as in the days of Krutov, Larionov, Kasatonov, Kharlamov, etc.
  • rkkasa xnumx
    rkkasa xnumx 16 February 2014 10: 20
    +4

    The 1972 Olympics in Munich. Basketball, the final of the USA-USSR. And our guys had strong eggs and treated them with more respect than they do now. Whoever saw, see. And whoever saw, still look smile You will not regret laughing
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  • disa
    disa 16 February 2014 10: 36
    +9
    For me personally, "Pasha Bure" is not an authority in resolving disputes, especially in hockey. I remember how this "rocket" rushed across the field at the Olympics in Japan along with the rest of the "legionnaires" and did not score goals against the Americans, although it seemed to represent our homeland. Where the loot is there is the homeland, and the judges are the same for them. They wanted money so much ... so that ... not even ashamed of this. Let them learn from Yulia Lipnitskaya ... she and her mother drove ice on their own and won and win. Glory to them ... but it's better not to remember these "American citizens" ...
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 16 February 2014 11: 24
      +1
      So I also always say that they normally play very much only overseas for grandmas.
    2. serge
      serge 16 February 2014 12: 25
      +2
      Pasha Bure is an American sucker, not a "Russian" rocket.
  • calocha
    calocha 16 February 2014 10: 36
    +7
    I looked .. from the adrenaline my heart drummed. It’s healthy ... Well done guys! I think we will show them more ..
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 16 February 2014 10: 41
    +3
    I probably missed everything after looking at the girls in curling or figure skating, and in general I was never particularly interested in hockey, but in my opinion, of course, of course, the referee should be from a neutral country, especially when playing national teams, but in football I don't remember that when playing two national teams, the referee was a citizen of one of these countries, this is wrong. Despite all the statements that "sport is out of politics" is, alas, no longer the case, if a person is even indifferent to hockey and if you ask him "Who is better to beat your national team country or another ", then the stump is clear he will say" Mine of course ", though if this person is not a Russian liberal, then it is clear, anyone, but not my country. And maybe the judge is generally gay? And thus" he took revenge on the damned homophobes of communists " , well, gay, and even an American in general is an explosive mixture, it is not enough that he helped his "brothers in orientation", but he will also be patriots.
  • Vadim12
    Vadim12 16 February 2014 10: 42
    +5
    Oh well, to hell with him, with the referee .. I’m sure that ours played perfectly.
  • serge
    serge 16 February 2014 10: 43
    +9
    At the Olympics, 9 judges from Canada, 5 from the USA and 1 (one) from Russia. Our hockey federation itself is losing the interests of our team. According to the tournament grid, in the semifinals, ours will meet with Canada either in the semifinals (if the Canadians beat the Finns), or in the quarterfinals. It will be the American or Canadian referees who will judge the match. Such a situation is possible only if the leadership of the FHR and the KHL knowingly betray the interests of their team in order to lure the Nkhlovites to the Olympic Games. Well, and what success do we expect from the national team after that?
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 16 February 2014 11: 21
      +2
      Well, and what success do we expect from the national team after that? - Yes, it remains only to lie down and die. But the team’s skill doesn’t solve anything?
      1. serge
        serge 16 February 2014 12: 23
        +2
        UzRus
        Well, and what success do we expect from the national team after that? - Yes, it remains only to lie down and die. But the team’s skill doesn’t solve anything?
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        With an approximate balance of power, it is the judge who decides if he sympathizes with one of the parties. Even in tennis, not to mention hockey with football. And with us, with Canada and even with the USA, no matter how we like, now there is approximate equality.
  • rubin6286
    rubin6286 16 February 2014 11: 03
    0
    Of course, it's a shame that they didn't count the goal, but no one wrote in the comments that our best masters from the NHL are over 30 and have almost forgotten how to score shootouts. I would "disperse" the current leadership of the Russian Ice Hockey Federation for unsatisfactory leadership in the formation of the national team, revised the criteria selection, the level of training of players, their age and the age of coaches, the regulations of the championship, the composition of the teams, the state of the educational material base and the efficiency of its use, the level of payment of the players, the system of material incentives, in a word, carried out urgent "reforms". The same should be done in Russian football, especially since the games of the World Cup are to be hosted.
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 16 February 2014 11: 19
      +1
      I wrote above that something, like that dancer, is always disturbed by something. I meant hockey players with football players. And playing better would not hurt them. Zaminusovali.
    2. Hleb
      Hleb 16 February 2014 13: 05
      +2
      dispersed? and tell me how old Datsyuk? he wouldn’t take him to the national team? call me at least one cant on his part in two games? you can’t call in the remaining games-100%
      But how many? How many of the young players can score from the blue?
      that’s just out of interest throwing your squad?
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 16 February 2014 15: 05
        +1
        Quote: Gleb
        that’s just out of interest throwing your squad?

        Do not throw, if only across ... Damn distracted Easy in the esteet goes SECOND !!!!!!!
  • ankh-andrej
    ankh-andrej 16 February 2014 11: 07
    +3
    It is necessary to demand a change in the rules. A referee should not serve matches of his national teams.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 16 February 2014 11: 24
      +3
      Quote: ankh-andrej
      A referee must not serve matches of his national teams.

      Agree! Only you are sure that if the Canadian judged, the result would be different?
      1. ankh-andrej
        ankh-andrej 16 February 2014 13: 59
        +2
        I think yes. Canada has always wanted to see itself and us in the finals. This is not figure skating.
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 16 February 2014 14: 14
      +2
      Quote: ankh-andrej
      It is necessary to demand a change in the rules. A referee should not serve matches of his national teams.

      Fetisov, about this ...

      Two-time Olympic champion Vyacheslav Fetisov told the Soviet Sport correspondent why the match of the Russian-US Olympic hockey tournament (2: 3 B) was served by the American referee Bradley Meyer. “This is an old sore subject. NHL establishes a dictate. Like, their athletes who come to the Olympics may suffer due to poor refereeing from non-NHL referees. And now with this dictate it’s time to end. No one doubts the professionalism of American judges. But the emotional factor still plays a role. Therefore, you need to do the same as at the world championships, where the referees do not work at the matches of their teams, ”Fetisov said.

      Source: http://politikus.ru/v-rossii/12901-vyacheslav-fetisov-amerikanskiy-sudya-s-dikta
      tom-nhl-pora-zakanchivat.html
      Politikus.ru
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 16 February 2014 11: 09
    +5
    <<< The reason, as we were told, is that the hockey functionaries do not take into account the citizenship of the referees ... >>>
    Well then, to be fair, at the next Russia-US meeting, you need to put the Russian arbiter in charge!
    1. ankh-andrej
      ankh-andrej 16 February 2014 14: 01
      +1
      Bosko is immediately turned off to our referees in case of such tricks.
  • Snoop
    Snoop 16 February 2014 11: 13
    +1
    Yankee spit)) You can’t even do anything at your Olympics! Maybe even a personal message to Putin who was present at the match))) I will be surprised if retaliatory actions follow. Usually our people simply wrap around stupidly as in a famous proverb. After all, this is not the first time that the Russian national hockey team is being sued.
  • Andron_by
    Andron_by 16 February 2014 11: 15
    +3
    Wonders ! Losers - win. Judge on the soap!
  • delfinN
    delfinN 16 February 2014 11: 26
    +1
    Quote: InsectID
    Quote: delfinN
    Conclusion: until we punish such "judges" (certainly better than their family members)

    I wish you not to be among any "judges"! Or you don't have family members.
    How do you differ from these -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rK_EnuzQ0YU

    I wonder if slapping a cockroach with a slipper is murder or not? And if the murder is cruel or not enough? Maybe you need to cover with dust or lightly pour acid. As you know from Sukhov - "it is desirable to suffer!" And whoever buys the meat of slaughtered animals in stores - they are accomplices in the crime. I see you have a rich fantasy, fantasize further.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 16 February 2014 16: 51
      0
      Quote: delfinN
      F if a cockroach slam a slipper - is it a murder or not?
      And if the murder is cruel or not enough?
      Maybe you need to fall asleep with dust or slightly acid.

      Maybe it is not necessary to bring the situation to the point where such questions begin to arise?
      Quote: delfinN
      And whoever buys meat from slaughtered animals in stores is an accomplice in crime.


      "Bender," he croaked suddenly, "you know how much I respect you, but you don't understand anything!"
      “You don't know what a goose is!” Ah, how I love this bird!
      - This is a wonderful fat bird, an honest, noble word.
      - Goose! Bender! Wing! Neck! Leg! Do you know, Bender, how do I catch a goose?
      - I kill him like a bullfighter - with one blow. This is opera when I go on a goose! "Carmen"! ... "

      /I.Ilf, E.Petrov, "The Golden Calf" ./
      Quote: delfinN
      I see you have a rich fantasy, fantasize further.

      Especially I ran through some of your recent comments ... There is a "fantasy", though rampant, but, obviously, somehow one-sided. With a bloodthirsty bias ... yes
  • Yankuz
    Yankuz 16 February 2014 11: 28
    +1
    Unfortunately, there is nothing to be done about this game ... We must accept it as a good lesson - for the future - and rally before the next games! We need to believe only in Victory! And yesterday, our hockey players did not really believe in victory. This was evident from their game - one kind of vanity, the Americans could see a dynamic game, and ours - vanity. And the judges very openly supported the United States. This is just my opinion.
  • Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 16 February 2014 11: 44
    +2
    I don’t understand one thing - WHY THE JUDGE HAVE NOT BROKEN THE FEET YET ???
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 16 February 2014 11: 52
      +5
      Quote: Kibalchish
      I don’t understand one thing - WHY THE JUDGE HAVE NOT BROKEN THE FEET YET ???

      Who's stopping you?! Set an example.
      1. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 16 February 2014 12: 59
        0
        I would be happy !!! But I am far away and in Sochi, I, a simple man, are hardly allowed.
  • Admiral 013
    Admiral 013 16 February 2014 11: 53
    +4
    Let's push our judges to important matches with our and other teams, so that the kids play around a bit. Say for the match Canada-Finland, let them appoint someone a bullet there.
    I'm still in shock!
  • pechv
    pechv 16 February 2014 12: 03
    +4
    Was late for the discussion. Think of it as a conspiracy theorist, but I'm more interested in events on the ski track. Somehow, the fate of the sprinters of skiers Gafarov and Ustyugov passed by all kinds of discussion. The first one was simply demolished by our skiing partners (a breathtaking shot of a rival passing over his skis from behind, ours falling, then howling about the fall of our skiers). The second in the final was "killed" according to a strict plan. As one commentator likes to say - "they closed the gate." Two opponents fell in the only possible corridor of the turn. Yes, they were not stretched along the highway, but across - it happens, blocking all the options. Ustyugov had no chance to get through. The bronze medalist, who, under strange circumstances, fell first (did not hit Usyugov? It would be interesting to look at the record of his fall - they have never been shown) called the race "strange". Surely he knew what he was talking about. Question - how much prize money for Norwegians?
    It hurts we are all tolerant. We are simply whipped in the face, but we do not notice. I hope that this is only out of a desire not to seem inhospitable. And then we'll discuss it somehow ...
  • loginovich
    loginovich 16 February 2014 12: 03
    +3
    Olympic victories in the offices of sports functionaries are forging how sad the gentlemen live.
  • Scherbakov Ilya
    Scherbakov Ilya 16 February 2014 12: 04
    +1
    For this, now, for all matches with Russia, a Russian referee must be appointed.
  • Heccrbq.3
    Heccrbq.3 16 February 2014 12: 11
    -4
    Another Temka for cattle, for a week there will be enough gossip, then they will come up with and depict something else, just to remain cattle and not think about anything else.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 16 February 2014 18: 38
      +1
      Quote: Heccrbq.3
      Another Temka for cattle, enough gossip for a week, then ...

      That you do not worry, you do not need to invent anything yet. The Olympics will last another week. Then, as you say, a week of gossip, and then, yes, you have to work hard.