Perseus Exoskeleton (marketing pamphlet)

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Perseus Exoskeleton (marketing pamphlet)


Since the Middle Ages

Since the early Middle Ages, military development has depended entirely on the development of technology: warships, cavalry, bows and arrows, gunpowder, airplanes, etc. An incorrect prioritization is expected: to reach the stars and forget about shoes on Earth.

What is the significance of a navy without sailors and troops? How long will a jet fighter be useful without the personnel maintaining and protecting the airbase? How effective is a high-tech rifle without a pair of hands that use it in combat?

Even if, within the framework of defense R & D, the infantryman is not forgotten, the burden of progress literally falls on the backs of the foot soldiers, because they have to transfer equipment with a mass of half their own body weight. It is not surprising that only “inhumanly” trained special forces can cope with such a load in combat conditions. But surprising are the small costs of protecting ordinary infantrymen and giving them strength, on their combat training.

In the face of such an imbalance, Rhadamanthys Systems aims to develop not only assistive technologies for the individual soldier, but also the beginning of a comprehensive reassessment of the combat value of a modern infantryman.

After completing the prototype testing phase and proceeding from its impressive results, Rhadamanthys Systems is proud to present:
Perseus - MEA (Military ExoskeletaL Auxiliary - military exoskeleton auxiliary tool).



Based on the complexity of the human locomotor apparatus and the requirements of the modern field, the Perseus task is not at all simple: to improve and maintain all the motor activity, simultaneously distributing and reducing the weight of equipment, as well as opposing such forces as, for example, recoil, jolts and impacts.

To do its job, the Perseus-MEA system focuses on four areas: strength, perception, design, and high complexity.




Force

In addition to its own 39,6 kg mass, the chassis design with a variety of attachment points makes it possible to cope with a load of 200 pounds (about 90 kg). The 39,6 kg mass includes two blocks of lithium-molybdenum batteries, which ensure the duration of operation at peak loads from 150 to 200 hours.

The functions of the exoskeleton provide increased strength of movement, depending on the specific articulation, up to 400%. Preliminary tests with trained athletes showed an increase in walking / running speed up to 100% and an increase in strength when jumping up to 150%.

Total cardiovascular endurance increased by 50% due to the support of the movements provided by the Perseus exoskeleton. But at the same time, too much increase in effort should be limited, for example, to prevent injuries due to reflexive movements.

At first, none of the Perseus operators will be able to jump over cars, but, nevertheless, they will be able to lift and carry loads that exceed their own mass many times over.

Greater freedom of use of additional kinetic functions can be gained in the course of long-term training, which Rhadamanthys Systems is developing together with each client.

With almost no training, you can use the depreciation and impact reduction functions, similar to the full depreciation functions of the foot.
This will allow even a beginner to safely jump from a height of 3-5 meters onto concrete surfaces without the slightest loss of balance.



Perception

Information about the outside world is the most important success factor in battle. Therefore, the Perseus-MEA exoskeleton has a complete set of stereoscopic thermal imaging sensors and image enhancement sensors built into the helmet and equipped with protective curtains for working in daylight conditions. This saves the user from wearing the current heavy and bulky night vision equipment.
Additionally, four microcameras provide an optional circular field of view of 360 degrees.

The set of optical sensors is completed by a dorsal module, equipped with a rotating full-scale ladar (laser radar) for determining the range and 3D-mapping, as well as target designation in case of participation in mixed operations with combat units.
All data can be projected on the goggles without the treacherous glare of the display. Standard connectors allow you to send / receive data to / from other devices.

Based on the requirements of low visibility, the Perseus system reduces the volume of all movement sounds and reduces heat generation from the chassis, and also hides the heat generated by the operator’s body.

As for sound perception, here the headphones offer the possibility of a standard connection to the microphone of the choice of the operator; The patented Guardian Angel ™ system is responsible for playing sounds.

It allows you to play external sounds with excellent quality in each isolated earpiece, but at the same time provides dynamic jamming in case of explosions, shooting, etc.

If the operator needs an improved perception of sound, an earpiece with a narrowly focused laser microphone, having a valid range of approximately 15 meters, is switched on. This is useful, for example, when acting in an urban setting. Considering the scenarios of cybernetic hostilities in the near future, the onboard computer architecture prohibits external access to all critical functions.

If illumination is needed, then there are two powerful LED lights on the torso module.

Design

The Perseus chassis consists of an aluminum-titanium frame with special reinforcement at the joints. The exterior parts are made of carbon fiber with Kevlar layers, which is an excellent protection for the internal electronic and hydraulic elements.

The frame provides reliable ballistic protection against non-armored bullets of caliber up to 9 mm in average 73% of cases of bullets and fragments falling into the body, despite the fact that the original model did not provide special protection.

Many systems boast of two-digit degrees of freedom, ignoring the true complexity of the movements of the human musculoskeletal system, which, in theory, corresponds to the standard frame with mechanical joints. The Perseus system is completely free from this drawback, since it uses the Tri-Point system patented by Rhadamanthys in several versions. Articulations in the wrists and ankles are provided with three offset telescopic pistons to obtain full freedom of movement in these joints.

But the “crown” element of the motorized frame is the shoulder joint. Three multilink levers work between the torso and the sturdy ring bar and provide free movement, while at the same time serving as supporting and protective elements.

All external telescopic pistons of the system are covered with a protective Kevlar-carbon material to minimize the loss of functionality even in the case of a direct hit by a bullet or a fragment. On the other hand, the system functions as a stabilizer in case of injury, while reliably blocking the articulation. The Perseus exoskeleton also has a helmet stabilizer kit that prevents neck injury and stabilizes it in case of injury.

All outer tubes and cables are covered with the Duratube system, consisting of reinforced tubes of interlaced Kevlar and steel fibers, which are as strong as the main frame.

High complexity

The main functions of the Perseus exoskeleton are controlled by the latest Neurosimulatron fuzzy logic processors, which are calibrated by a simple standard movement of a particular person. A set of neuroinductive sensors determines the muscles involved and includes the corresponding movement of the frame itself.

In order to reduce recoil forces, the system includes a reversal process. It determines which movement is not initiated by the musculature at the moment and even which movement interferes with muscular efforts and actively counteracts these movements. Acceleration sensors and microgyros help this process, and also contribute to the balancing of the additional load.

The Perseus exoskeleton has a built-in radio and satellite communication kit with encryption to provide communication with its and neighboring units. Also this kit is supplemented with GPS, emergency pulse transmitter and signaling beacon. Additionally, a first-aid kit is included in the back module, as well as signal flares to indicate the place of evacuation.





Future

In the spring of 2014, the future of the Perseus system promises to be exciting. Further improvement of the MEA variant will be carried out. The ACC (Active Combat Chassis option) is already at the prototype stage; it includes enhanced armor protection and support for various weapons. The creation of another version of Perseus-VAP (Versatile Auxiliary Purpose - a universal auxiliary tool) involves civilian investors, since it is created for construction sites and loading and unloading operations.

Based on materials from http://soldiersystems.net
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  1. ICT
    +16
    18 February 2014 07: 42
    It’s difficult to discuss the skeleton itself, but there seems to be one problem, the capacity of the batteries to supply this miracle of technology
    1. +7
      18 February 2014 08: 16
      Quote: TIT
      It’s difficult to discuss the skeleton itself, but there seems to be one problem, the capacity of the batteries to supply this miracle of technology

      And this "shkilet" food would not hurt lol
    2. 0
      18 February 2014 19: 58
      I'm still wondering how the motion sensor will respond to muscle cramps or cramps. There, after all, the exoskeleton is controlled by muscle movements.
  2. vladsolo56
    +9
    18 February 2014 07: 54
    And yet this is just advertising, such a design will be very expensive. its massive use is impractical. The second mobility of a soldier, whatever one may say, will still be limited. In close combat, this is especially unpleasant. When injured, this entire structure must be removed, instead of immediately giving first aid. To bear the weight? Well, it's still easier to do with machines. So I do not see the benefits of these show-offs.
    1. avt
      +4
      18 February 2014 09: 27
      Quote: vladsolo56
      And yet this is just advertising, such a design will be very expensive. its massive use is impractical.

      As correctly noted
      Quote: TIT
      It’s difficult to discuss the skeleton itself, but there seems to be one problem, the capacity of the batteries to supply this miracle of technology

      When they decide the issue of the energy source, they will make a combat suit of the current elements - the exoskeleton, protection and improvised electronics.
    2. +10
      18 February 2014 13: 37
      Quote: vladsolo56
      And yet this is just advertising, such a design will be very expensive. its massive use is impractical. The second mobility of a soldier, whatever one may say, will still be limited. In close combat, this is especially unpleasant. When injured, this entire structure must be removed, instead of immediately giving first aid. To bear the weight? Well, it's still easier to do with machines. So I do not see the benefits of these show-offs.

      For this future. Over time, the design will be finalized,
      it will become more practical and cheaper, including due to some increase in production. In local wars, this will be a serious argument. And in counter-terrorist operations, equipping such assault complexes is simply necessary.
      A tank the size of a man. You can spend money on it.
      The assault on the Amin Palace took exactly 40 minutes. Tora Bora was taken by assault in 48 hours. And then the power reserve is more than 150 hours at peak loads, during which time how many ammunition is consumed.
      1. +3
        18 February 2014 21: 15
        Quote: sak1969
        For this future

        And he knows - he saw wassat
        1. saber1357
          -1
          18 February 2014 22: 29
          Well, yes, in delirium tremens saw, not otherwise
      2. saber1357
        -2
        18 February 2014 22: 29
        In, the dude has read a lot of fiction. Listen, dear, I would have taught physics at school, then I would have been able to estimate the capacity and mass of the battery, which will give "a power reserve of more than 150 hours." (even assuming the highest possible efficiency). Do you have any idea what the capacity / mass ratio of the lightest batteries, lithium, is? Play enough computer games instead of drugs, then make stoned comments on our VO.
      3. +1
        19 February 2014 23: 06
        Rather, a BMP slightly larger than a person
    3. 0
      19 February 2014 01: 47
      Quote: vladsolo56
      And yet this is just advertising, such a design will be very expensive. its massive use is impractical. The second mobility of a soldier, whatever one may say, will still be limited. In close combat, this is especially unpleasant. When injured, this entire structure must be removed, instead of immediately giving first aid. To bear the weight? Well, it's still easier to do with machines. So I do not see the benefits of these show-offs.

      The exoskeleton is probably quite yes, the thing is expensive and the battery is heavy ... But separately for the neck, an exoskeleton that allows to compensate for getting at least an automatic cartridge into the skull, special forces might not have been snapped up like hot cakes, but would have been intrigued at least.
      Although the article does not labor exoskeleton - labor exoskeleton must be synchronized with the nervous system, so that even a half-corpse (and ideally a corpse) would be combat-ready. In general, now this is Uncle Vasya’s dream from a freight station, not an exoskeleton. They’ll shoot a leg and a movie about a super soldier will end.
  3. +4
    18 February 2014 07: 58
    they've seen enough of Hollywood again, they are raving about "Star Wars". LAZY AND HOLLYWOOD - THE ENGINE OF PROGRESS
  4. predator.3
    +13
    18 February 2014 07: 59
    Somewhere all this was already!
    1. 0
      18 February 2014 18: 58
      Once upon a time, in one distant galaxy ...
    2. 0
      18 February 2014 18: 58
      Once upon a time, in one distant galaxy ...
    3. +3
      18 February 2014 21: 26
      Quote: predator.3
      Somewhere all this was already!

      Yeah, there is such a thought ... what
    4. saber1357
      0
      18 February 2014 22: 31
      Now, finally, at least one reader has recognized the original source of this advertising brochure. I was already going to look for pictures myself by the words "Imperial troops" etc.
  5. poccinin
    +15
    18 February 2014 08: 05
    progress does not stand still. Our research institutes also need to take a closer look at these developments so as not to shout "We are hopelessly behind" every 10 years mankind makes a giant step in front in all directions. Technologies and materials. Computers are getting smaller and productivity is higher. medicine. yes a bunch of everything. new.
    1. +6
      18 February 2014 10: 21
      Two years ago, a tender for the development of exoskeletons was won by the Institute of Mechanics of Moscow State University, first of all, the Ministry of Emergencies is interested.
    2. saber1357
      -1
      18 February 2014 22: 31
      The dark side of the force is with you, Darth Mole, go sober up
  6. poccinin
    +12
    18 February 2014 08: 11
    when the planes first appeared, no one took them seriously. clumsy and unreliable. Submarines were also not taken seriously. "What to dive into a barrel under water for what?" but the WAR came and everything changed.
  7. +9
    18 February 2014 08: 38
    I immediately remembered the movie "Robocop" lol
  8. +4
    18 February 2014 08: 46
    Quote: TIT
    It’s difficult to discuss the skeleton itself, but there seems to be one problem, the capacity of the batteries to supply this miracle of technology

    There will be a large and long cable, because there are no compact and energy-consuming batteries for such a miracle yet.
    1. +2
      18 February 2014 10: 31
      There will be a large and long cable, because there are no compact and energy-consuming batteries for such a miracle yet.

      Just driving routes along power lines or electrified railway tracks
      1. Old skeptic
        +4
        18 February 2014 15: 47
        The connected skeletons will be useful in aerodrome maintenance, it is much faster to raise a bomb or rocket and pick it up under the wing than to lift it with a winch. Or repair armored vehicles, that is, wherever you need a lot of power and there is no need to run through the fields, and then come up with food and order. Although microturbines are already being developed in tandem with generators and very efficiently, they will refuel these skeletons with gas or gasoline, and we know where to shave this fuel ....
        1. +4
          18 February 2014 21: 21
          Quote: Old Skeptic
          The connected skeletons will be useful in aerodrome maintenance, it is much faster to raise a bomb or rocket and pick it up under the wing than to lift it with a winch.

          Right... fellow
    2. 0
      2 March 2014 21: 59
      but there is the basis of technology, when all the elements are up and working together, then there will be no laughing matter.
  9. +5
    18 February 2014 08: 58
    Along the way, with attempts to catch up with competitors in the development of exoskeletons, I propose to develop a cheap, effective rifle + cartridge - capable of incapacitating any promising exoskeleton of the enemy, I think this will be an excellent response to the tricks of the amers. EMR with a small radius (if it is possible to implement, but ours could accomplish much that is impossible), I think it would be suitable.

    CAPACITY Although, to be honest, the screw cutter cartridge brings down this character as efficiently as a pig, I’m sure.
    1. AX
      +4
      18 February 2014 11: 23
      I offer the good old PTRS-41 ...
      1. wanderer_032
        +10
        18 February 2014 13: 27
        Quote: AX
        I offer the good old PTRS-41 ...

        Yes.
        But only how are you from this weapon weighing 22kg. you will hit a soldier who in such a thing can move three times faster than a soldier without it?
        And from what distance?
        And if you miss, think about what the response of a group of such fighters equipped with devices that can detect targets and conduct aimed fire at them from great distances, is about 1,5-2 times further than a soldier who does not have such equipment?
        1. wanderer_032
          +6
          18 February 2014 13: 51
          It seems that a minus signifies that in essence there are no answers.
          But I’ll still say what happens if you miss (and you can only shoot once, because you cannot quickly go to another position with such a barrel, especially at close range).
          The answer will be so strong that from who shot then it will be difficult to find anything from his remains.
          And not such "ukhars" were covered, and without any exoskeletons with super-equipment.
          Examples of mass.
          1. +5
            18 February 2014 14: 02
            Quote: wanderer_032
            But I’ll still say what happens if you miss (and you can only shoot once, because you cannot quickly go to another position with such a barrel, especially at close range).

            The fighter in the exoskeleton will have superiority in the means of detection, and this fighter will make the first shot. Of course, they will also shoot at him, but given his superiority in defenses, assault and weapons, and according to the law of large numbers, units in exoskeletons will suffer less losses.
            However, this is all particular, not infantry fighting against infantry, but armies against armies. Yes, infantry is the queen of the fields, but artillery is the god of war, and if the enemy has superiority in artillery, then no exoskeletons will help you.
            1. wanderer_032
              +1
              18 February 2014 16: 58
              Quote: Setrac
              if the enemy has superiority in artillery, then no exoskeletons will help you.

              A soldier in "exec" and with a combination of a flexible "armored suit", will be able to take cover, easier to transfer an artillery attack.
              From a direct hit by an artillery shell, self-propelled guns MSTA-S for example, and the tank will not help.
        2. +1
          18 February 2014 17: 40
          Well, maybe he got excited with PTRS, but the VSSK or ASH-12 caliber is quite suitable ....
  10. +1
    18 February 2014 09: 02
    But ours is without a battery! IMHO for this future and it is not so far.
    1. +1
      18 February 2014 17: 28
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      But ours is without a battery! IMHO for this future and it is not so far.

      It’s like comparing a naked scooter and a motorcycle, in this case a sophisticated motorcycle. )))
  11. Nasty
    +3
    18 February 2014 09: 06
    it is as before a knight and his squire. in the sense of battery
  12. +2
    18 February 2014 09: 25
    It's time for us to work on this.
  13. +4
    18 February 2014 10: 07
    For science fiction films, it’s not a bad aesthetics, let them experience this costume in Siberia, where they strive so much. History can repeat itself, as in the case of an ice battle.))))
    1. +1
      18 February 2014 11: 51
      Yeah ... we aim in a backpack with equipment, climb into an armored personnel carrier and push, push, push laughing Yes, really ... at minus fifty, how will it behave? How was the iron robot dipped into the water? ... Will it "rust" however? The exoskeleton will not save you on the battlefield, will not help much with fire contact and will bury you in close combat. They probably, like with planes, decided to stuff it with electronics and all sorts of auxiliary means in order to avoid close, "maneuverable" combat, which is really unlikely and full autonomy of this very exoskeleton from a person is colloquially called a combat robot or for them a "terminator". But wait and see ... ours, too, should have rummaged in this direction.
    2. wanderer_032
      +5
      18 February 2014 13: 08
      Quote: mountain
      let them experience this suit in Siberia, where they strive so much

      Those who undertook such a project are probably not fools.
      Why take this exoskeleton somewhere if they have at the enterprise where they work the entire laboratory complex for testing their products on site, including at low temperatures and other complexes.
      We must already think what can be opposed to soldiers equipped with similar devices.
      To think in perspective, so to speak.
      1. +1
        18 February 2014 17: 47
        Yes, please ... The whole bunch of small-caliber grenade launchers can be used starting with our Tkb 0249, um 94, rgs 50m .... and ending with the American XM 109, you just need to fill it up with electronics and you're done ...
  14. 0
    18 February 2014 11: 38
    you can see that progress is going exponentially. Not so long ago, space flight was considered madness. While working as a signalman in the late 90s, I heard from some cellular subscribers wondering that they say, ten years ago, they could leave a bathhouse in the forest and call anywhere. It looked fantastic. You have to understand that the main "messages" of science fiction are being realized and the further the faster. I believe that our country needs to make serious efforts in this field. Power problem? I am sure he will decide. I would like to see thousands of such "knights" on a new level with armor that small arms do not take. Then it will be easier to cope with the 40 millionth Chinese reserve.
  15. wanderer_032
    +1
    18 February 2014 13: 00
    An impressive project, especially interested in information about the battery.
    Apparently the engineers of this company intend to seriously bring their products to mass production.
    It is also noteworthy that civilian versions are being developed. This will allow, after testing, to quickly deploy the production of these devices and massively introduce them into everyday work.
    I think the next goal will be to develop an armored suit for use with this exoskeleton. Perhaps it will be development based on the "Dragon Skill" technology or similar technology.
    That will allow the soldier to perform more complex combat missions, with minimal risk.
  16. +1
    18 February 2014 13: 05
    Duration of operation at peak loads from 150 to 200 hours.

    The assault on the Amin Palace took exactly 40 minutes. Tora Bora was taken by assault in 48 hours. 150 hours at peak loads, during which time the ammunition will end several times. Impressive!
    1. ramsi
      0
      18 February 2014 13: 20
      By the way, it is very doubtful if I understood correctly - 30 kg of battery per 150 hours of heavy traffic ... Kinematics of walking is clearly more expensive than rolling, the total weight is promised for a hundred (this is not counting the energy consumption of other systems) ...- yes they are visionaries
      1. +1
        18 February 2014 14: 35
        In the picture I did not see many degrees of freedom in the "joints". And this can turn into a lot of troubles. When the operator will try to make a necessary movement, which the suit is not able to repeat.
        For example, the hip joint is not very mobile to the sides. And sometimes it is necessary. It’s not just a suit for even asphalt. On a wise slope or a mash of collapsed buildings. Yes under fire.
        But the development is very, very interesting.
        As everyone here notes, the most vulnerable is the battery capacity and what will happen after they are exhausted. Protect this miracle before the helicopter approaches evacuation or continue the combat mission?
        Another question: how is it to climb plastunsky under fire at the leading edge? But God forbid melee? In case of moderate injury, how will the movement mode be filtered from reflex muscle cramps? Especially high-precision movements. After all, this will not be a filtered return on weapons, but the commands of the operator itself. Only a little inadequate in terms of microprocessor. And many more questions.
        1. 0
          18 February 2014 18: 41
          As everyone here notes, the most vulnerable is the battery capacity and what will happen after they are exhausted. Protect this miracle before the helicopter approaches evacuation or continue the combat mission?

          Modern clashes are fleeting, what to protect in it (Brest Fortress) then of course batteries
          will not be enough . Although in 200 hours a lot of things can be done. By the way, there are projects on unmanned transport vehicles,
          and batteries will bring up ammunition and evacuate the wounded.
          Another question: how is it to climb plastunsky under fire at the leading edge? But God forbid melee?

          I can’t imagine how to climb Plastunsky in this, but in
          a hand-to-hand fight with this crap of desire does not arise, not what. (Same as with a saber on a tank!)
          And I think that if you have an OS, it should be
          self-learning, with the death of the operator, the squad leader will be able to partially control the exoskeleton. So let’s say an exoskeleton with a dead operator can theoretically perform some kind of action. Well, let's shoot back.
          And I note there are developments, well, let's say without unpacking
          fighter stop the bleeding by introducing into
          a foam wound or through a special sponge applicator.
          1. ICT
            +1
            18 February 2014 20: 04
            Quote: sak1969
            self-learning, with the death of the operator, the squad leader will be able to partially control the exoskeleton.


            I came up with the name "zombie mode", you can drive the living into an attack on minefields
          2. 0
            18 February 2014 21: 30
            Quote: sak1969
            And I think that if you have an OS, it should be
            self-learning, with the death of the operator, the squad leader will be able to partially control the exoskeleton. So let's say an exoskeleton with a dead operator can theoretically perform some kind of action ...

            Or maybe it's easier right away .... request
      2. ICT
        +1
        18 February 2014 16: 40
        Quote: ramsi
        By the way, it is very doubtful if I understood correctly - 30kg battery on 150h of heavy traffic ...


        here I am talking about too, we take any phone and see how much the phone and its battery weigh, and then we make proportions and measure it, the ratio of working time and rest .., the whole offer is saved for any device
  17. Old scoop
    +1
    18 February 2014 13: 17
    I wonder what surface I plan to walk in such uniforms? Taking into account the weight of the exoskeleton itself, a fighter with a weapon and an additional load of 90 kg, we get about 230 kg. The pressure on the surface will be 0,76 kg \ cm2. One of the functions of the exoskeleton is to carry a large load in a terrain impenetrable for technology, but with such pressure on the soil in many places can it be used?
    1. wanderer_032
      0
      18 February 2014 13: 33
      Quote: Old scoop
      One of the functions of the exoskeleton is to carry a large load in a terrain impenetrable for technology, but with such pressure on the soil in many places can it be used?

      To do this, you can also increase the foot support area by placing wider soles (overlays) made of elastic rubber or polyurethane.
      Think of snowshoes or spikes.
    2. +1
      18 February 2014 13: 34
      I wonder what surface I plan to walk in such uniforms?

      They put him on the skis. In principle, they have a lot of energy (from where it is not clear) so on skis and on asphalt laughing
    3. +2
      18 February 2014 14: 46
      I wonder what surface I plan to walk in such uniforms?
      In the style of a terminator: full growth on a flat surface. Preferably dry and hard.
      On the dunes - problematic.
      On karachki or creeping under machine-gun fire - um ...
      Short dashes with rifts to bring down the enemy’s sight -
      Squeezing into the narrow hole of the shelter when fighting in the city ruins is so much more than catching and an increased size with less flexibility.
      Forcing the rivulet through the thicket of reeds at the European theater (or in the jungle) - yes it will leave half of the mud, driftwood and the reeds itself, and bind in the muddy bottom. Even if it does not close.
      Landing-landing through the hatches of armored vehicles - God forbid accidentally knocking / catching on the open part of the always protruding metal bullshit. The same opening of the hatch. With a muscle enhancer of shock 3-4 times, the human crumb will clearly not be a joy.
      1. 0
        18 February 2014 15: 50
        Quote: abrakadabre
        On karachki or creeping under machine-gun fire - um ...
        Short dashes with rifts to bring down the enemy’s sight -
        Squeezing into the narrow hole of the shelter when fighting in the city ruins is so much more than catching and an increased size with less flexibility.

        Armored vehicles also do not know how to do all this, nevertheless they are at war.
        1. 0
          18 February 2014 16: 58
          Until the first grenade launcher or DShK (this is because the armored are worse)
          1. +2
            18 February 2014 20: 22
            Quote: tchoni
            Until the first grenade launcher or DShK (this is because the armored are worse)

            This is how exoskeletons can be armed with automatic grenade launchers with a programmable detonation of a shot, and large-caliber weapons like the 12,7-mm Kord machine gun. Plus any other useful electronics. And you can shoot with your hands. Such guys will blow everything away. Only mining will save. )))
            1. 0
              21 February 2014 21: 59
              Oh, as Peter Alekseevich used to say.
              we consider: the machine gun’s body weight of the progressive CORD itself is 25 kilos (the rest are heavier with the exception of the German 13 mm machine gun of the Great Patriotic War, but the cartridge there is weaker and much more), the weight of the tape for 50 rounds is 7,5 kg without accounting for the box which this tape is crammed into (otherwise it is impossible - failures will become more frequent due to pollution) for the battle the machine gunner needs at least 300 rounds - but this is a hungry minimum
              total: 25 + 45 + 5 (hypothetical box weight) = 75 kilograms! -) and the exoskeleton drags only 90 - there is a hyphen of armor + cartridges.
              So the maximum is a regular caliber machine gun + armor (I think about 40 kilos) + bumblebee flies and other RPGs in a quantity of more than one thing.
      2. +1
        18 February 2014 17: 59
        On the dunes - problematic.

        It won't take long to finish the "shoes" ....
        On karachki or creeping under machine-gun fire - um ...

        we get up to its full height and put a grenade in the embrasure ....
        Short dashes with rifts to bring down the enemy’s sight -
        Until the enemy begins to use 20-40 mm of ammunition, you can’t flicker, and you can’t turn heavy weapons so quickly behind the target ..
        Forcing the rivulet through the thicket of reeds at the European theater (or in the jungle) - yes it will leave half of the mud, driftwood and the reeds itself, and bind in the muddy bottom. Even if it does not close.

        You at least in "Permyachka" with a PC force the river along ...
        Landing-landing through the hatches of armored vehicles - God forbid accidentally knocking / catching on the open part of the always protruding metal bullshit. The same opening of the hatch. With a muscle enhancer of shock 3-4 times, the human crumb will clearly not be a joy.
        They will ride in armor, or in an armored car more seriously, an armored personnel carrier 80 filled with 3 BK nifiga is not spacious, we can do something in accordance with the standard ....
  18. +3
    18 February 2014 13: 54
    2 article about exoskeletons)))
    I repeat:
    These prototypes are just the foundation for more serious developments in need. And when the next technical revolution breaks out. Someone will already have an excellent backlog in the field of exoskeleton, and someone will sit in a puddle and shout:
    What about batteries? . we didn’t agree that it would work without batteries.
    Thank God we still have visionary people in the Moscow Region and development is ongoing. therefore, as with drones, we will not fly. And this cannot please.
  19. +1
    18 February 2014 13: 55
    I want to draw attention to the fact that a person needs to eat much more often than recharging the battery, that is, the problem of recharging is contrived, because they somehow solve the power problem. In addition, peak loads are a battle that DOES NOT AT ALL TIME.
    1. 0
      26 February 2014 10: 48
      I want to pay attention that a person needs to eat much more often than recharging a battery
      Only man is much more omnivorous than this unit. In an extreme case, it eats both grass and worms.
      And give the exoskeleton only electricity, and only in a package of a certain shape is the battery. And in most places where there are fights, it is very stressful with electricity to connect a charger.
  20. 0
    18 February 2014 14: 15
    Throwing firewood into the discussion - an unmanned exoskeleton - sounds good.
    1. ICT
      0
      18 February 2014 16: 26
      this is just not a problem, but again, the cord in the form of a power cable
  21. 0
    18 February 2014 14: 24
    If everything turns out as in the article, then the suit will stand 7.62 quietly. angry stop
  22. IS-3
    +1
    18 February 2014 16: 26
    There would be money. A request for such products will always be. And the market may not let it go into mass production. Why? You ask. Perhaps because the old military products still go down for the goods they buy. This same product, although there is more than one generation, can meet basic needs. Why introduce a new one when the old is cheaper. It's all about the money. Someone has ambition but no money. And someone just reduces their ambitions to money.
  23. +1
    18 February 2014 16: 44
    I’m reading an article - it reminds us of the American advertisements that we play, it is very similar. I wonder if this suit is protected from electromagnetic impulses, because this is one of the damaging factors of nuclear weapons, and its use cannot be ruled out ..
  24. +1
    18 February 2014 17: 21
    I admit right away - not a fan of exoskeletons.
    However, I will say this - for a battle in the city, short in duration of assault missions. The action as part of the unit on technology and with reference to the supply bases - things !!! definitely! (the armor plate of a sapper that weighs 40 kg protects from everything that shoots and explodes to an F1 grenade (at a distance of 1 m.)) Here - as much as 90 kg - there is where to put the arsenal. The first appearance, if it is massive and reasonably furnished (in the sense of tactically literate), will be akin to the appearance of a tank. and then .... - Tnak 40-70 tone and it burns. and only 100 kilograms of shell - learn to pick and love quickly and quickly. (although the device will fall in love with a niche and not a small one)
    P.S. In the Wehrmacht, there was one very interesting anti-tank rifle (38) 7.92 weighing about 10 kg with ammunition and a penetration capacity of 20 mm of armor 300 mm normal along the normal.
    The bullet of the 5.45 cartridge of increased power punches a steel sheet per 100 m 16 mm (obviously not armor, but nevertheless, if you conjure ........)
    Steyr AMR / IWS 2000 At a distance of 1000 m, this needle is capable of piercing 40 mm of homogeneous rolled armor.
    Well, plus, nobody canceled the shot at the grenade launcher (for a short distance).
  25. 0
    18 February 2014 21: 53
    as comrade noted above, this is only a "foundation", developments for the future. Technologies do not stand still, but develop. All problems can be solved, with time and good funding. I hope we already have our own "terminator"
  26. RND
    -1
    18 February 2014 23: 46
    Quote: theadenter
    I'm still wondering how the motion sensor will respond to muscle cramps or cramps. There, after all, the exoskeleton is controlled by muscle movements.

    And even more interesting is how the sphincter will react, and in a simple way, the point of overseas supermen when our guys from special forces will tear them up. In this device, the designers did not envisage a high-tech pot-shit collector. It should be. And, God forbid, when carrying out actions on our territory, a "Russian version" is needed. With a high capacity pot. am
  27. +1
    19 February 2014 01: 27
    No need to be ironic, but begin to engage in such matters themselves. Combining mechanical batteries with a small ICE and then hydraulics. And this is for a start.
  28. +1
    19 February 2014 20: 41
    Quote: RND
    Quote: theadenter
    I'm still wondering how the motion sensor will respond to muscle cramps or cramps. There, after all, the exoskeleton is controlled by muscle movements.

    And even more interesting is how the sphincter will react, and in a simple way, the point of overseas supermen when our guys from special forces will tear them up. In this device, the designers did not envisage a high-tech pot-shit collector. It should be. And, God forbid, when carrying out actions on our territory, a "Russian version" is needed. With a high capacity pot. am


    It’s interesting, and if a member of the fighter gets up (they’re all skin-tight, and there are plenty of gays in their army) which command will the sensor give?
  29. 0
    21 February 2014 09: 55
    Here you have to choose: either a mechanic or a person. Better IMMEDIATELY humanoid robot with dis. management, or a person in the most comfortable, light and effective attire. "Avatar" or "surrogates" with Bruce Willis.
  30. 0
    2 March 2014 22: 09
    just against all these electronic lotions you need to use electronic suppression devices, and we can all fight without it, they are no longer
  31. +1
    14 March 2014 17: 27
    Judging by the photo, it looks more like a "sexy-military sado-maso kit"
  32. 0
    26 March 2014 20: 10
    Everything that is supplied to the army on a regular basis must undergo severe tests and have experience in combat use. With regard to this topic, everything, only prototypes and advertisements of manufacturers, even that which was shipped to the American troops. But, as a promising direction in the future, it has the right to exist!
  33. Bars90
    0
    April 25 2014 16: 34
    What can I say, beautiful. Technology has always helped in warriors. But, without the appropriate training and knowledge of the battle, as well as courage, these technologies are nothing but some jewelry.
    Always the discoverers of the new in history, were the Europeans. Enlightenment, so to speak. New technologies have always helped them win. Until the moment they came across technologies that are alien to them. After all, everyone sees the war the same way, but finding a way to win it with minimal losses is different.
    At one point in time, all technological innovations began to be adopted from each other. They were gradually developed based on experience. Accordingly, the experience in the introduction of hostilities was different.
    Thus, it is worth saying that in modern times, what can be said about the exchange of technology is also happening. Not voluntarily, of course, but spontaneously ... or through some intelligence activities. Technology is always improving. Someone created, and someone improved and made even better.
  34. 0
    20 November 2015 19: 00
    Quote: abrakadabre
    I wonder what surface I plan to walk in such uniforms?
    In the style of a terminator: full growth on a flat surface. Preferably dry and hard.
    On the dunes - problematic ... Even if it does not close.
    Landing-landing through the hatches of armored vehicles - God forbid accidentally knocking / catching on the open part of the always protruding metal bullshit. The same opening of the hatch. With a muscle enhancer of a blow 3-4 times, the human crumb will clearly not be a joy ...

    Absolutely justified and logical questions and doubts.
    There is only one caveat.
    Approximately the same reason the cavalrymen of the early twentieth century, at the sight of the first tanks.
    And the cavalry will not keep up, and gasoline, and not hay, is needed, and many other BUTs will get stuck in the stream.
    In general, a useless and harmful toy.
    And not one sane person in this tin can get out. And where is this cavalry now?
    PS It is clear that this article is continuous advertising and technological profanity at this stage.
    But Armata was born from MK-I.

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