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Folk film about the war. Finally!

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Folk movies. Is it possible today to make a truly popular film in conditions, God forgive me, a market that has captured the minds of many of our fellow citizens when the money supply is ahead of such concepts as human form, high morality, spirituality, feat, sacrifice? The author’s team led by director, screenwriter and producer Andrei Shalopa decided to ask just such a question - a man who had decided to make a movie that could be supported by the audience themselves, a movie in which everyone’s financial assistance (including financial support) can contribute viewer.


We are talking about a unique domestic project - the feature film "28 Panfilov", the idea of ​​creating which was born in the bowels of the St. Petersburg studio "LPS". The uniqueness of the project lies in the fact that it is withdrawn precisely with national funds - not for the millions and billions that are otherwise allocated from the state and other budgets, but with the money of ordinary Russians. The goal of the author’s group is to convey to the modern viewer what was happening on the approaches to Moscow back in 1941, how the fighters in the Moscow region’s snows in the Volokolamsk direction opposed tank the armies of the Nazis (2nd and 11th tank divisions of the enemy), that is a real feat in the name of the Fatherland.

Folk film about the war. Finally!


Answering numerous questions from the audience, the authors declare that they are not going to exaggerate the perestroika and post-perestroika thesis that история About 28 Panfilov fighters - defenders of Moscow - this is a myth. The authors are not going to make a film “based on” hyperliberal tales about how “one rifle is for three,” how “drunken fighters in the trenches go to the toilet, using newspapers with a portrait of Stalin,” how “bloodsuckers, political instructors scribble denunciations,” as juvenile delinquents redeem the blame with blood. " These “masterpieces” of liberal literature and “documentary art” in the “28 Panfilov’s” by Andrei Shalopa that have been born after the collapse of the USSR will not be. And thank God!

The authors' team makes a film that is dedicated to the heroic defense of Moscow - what should educate, what can serve as a grain of social consolidation (consolidation of, let's say, healthy forces, and not those who take any patriotic undertaking extremely painfully). In this case, it is not so important whether 16 or 1941 fighters fought against the Hitlerite tank divisions of 28 in November. The important thing is how, in moments of the highest danger for one’s Motherland, a person can go for deeds worthy of not only respect, but admiration as well.

Someone will say: pathos ... But what's wrong with healthy pathos? In the end, it was on heroic pathos in our country that whole generations were brought up. If for someone the cinematic narration about the heroism of the Soviet soldier looks something reprehensible, if he is used to trusting exclusively those materials in which the “triumph of the bloody gebni” is a personal matter of such a person. As the saying goes: go and revisit the "Bastards" ...

The film is therefore shot on popular funds, so that the overly stinging fellow citizens would have no reason to rebuke cinematography officials in the “wrong direction of means”. It should immediately be noted here that cinematography officials have nothing to do with the 28 Panfilov film, and perhaps thank God ... This fact alone puts the film on a completely new platform - a platform of real popular choice. This option has become forced for the film (about the reasons just below), but it is he who gives the opportunity to make a movie, which is “not from above”, but that — from those who will be its main audience — the usual average Russian — a person who is tired of pouring tons, excuse me, crap on domestic history and culture by various possessed authors from both the cinema and the literary community.

The film, according to Andrei Shalopa, is shot not only on the basis of numerous literary works devoted to the events of the defense of Moscow (one of such works is “Volokolamsk Highway” by A. Beck), but also on testimonies of veterans, on archival documents.

One of the questions that Andrei Shalopa, in his own words, is tired of answering: will the heroic line of defense of the capital from the enemy be shown in the picture, or will the authors focus on love and other romantic lines ... The author of the film gives a definite answer: there will be no love lines in the film, for a film about the heroism of a soldier in the name of the Fatherland!

And, frankly, the demonstration of the next love line in the film, which is directly connected with the Great Patriotic War, would be a brute force for all known reasons. It is unlikely that the people will support the author if he had originally decided to look for romance in the soldiers' trenches on the Volokolamsk direction at the time when dozens of tanks rush to Moscow? ..

The script of the film was written 5 years ago. Initially, the authors of the film (in 2009 year) decided to apply for financial assistance to implement the project to the state structures - the Foundation for Supporting Patriotic Cinema under the President and even personally to the President of the Russian Federation, which at that time was Dmitry Medvedev . However, as it turned out, both the foundation and the president were indifferent to the shooting of the film according to the script of Andrei Shalopy. Did you read the script? - this is a separate question. Perhaps they were sent “on the back burner”, and not reading at all, as often happens if the idea comes “from below” ... The filmmakers themselves explain the reaction of state authorities in the following way: it is possible that they thought the film would have to spend about the same amount how much recently masters like Nikita Mikhalkov have been spending on filming, for example ...

However, the amount of funds for which the film “28 Panfilov” can be made is not comparable with the money spent on shooting, for example, “2 Burnt by the Sun”. The picture of Nikita Mikhalkov "ate" 40 million dollars. To implement the project Andrei Shalopy requires less than 2 million dollars, namely 60 million rubles.
After the creative team realized that state support was not to wait, the idea was born to make a film using folk remedies. Perhaps the refusal of state authorities to finance - only to the benefit of the film ...

It was offered to all those who are interested in the artistic embodiment of one of the most tragic and heroic stages of the defense of Moscow, to take part both in the work on the film and in the financing of this work. A huge number of people responded. Some offered to work as actors on extra gratuitous basis, others - to help them with the historical facts and evidence of the events of November 1941, others - just transferred the money. Your humble servant (the author of the material) also listed - let him, of course, immodest about himself, but, as they say, for the sake of such a thing ...

By this minute, about 10,1 million rubles had accumulated - a little more than the 6 of the total amount. We have no right to call on all readers to support this particular project, but for those of you who still decided to express such support, we present the page "28 Panfilov" http://28panfilovcev.com/ - through it, you can make your own feasible (national) contribution to the creation of national cinema about the Great Patriotic War, as well as contact the film team of authors.

Here you will immediately have to say this: our dear readers, you do not need to suspect the Military Review that our publication has some kind of personal material benefit from the project of Andrei Shaliopa. Perhaps the authors of the film “28 Panfilov” did not even know about the existence of our electronic resource. We decided to publish this material for the reason that the creation of a patriotic film about the war is indeed overdue, and informational assistance to such a popular project will definitely not hurt. Let's hope that the film in the foreseeable future will be released on screens and will bring together a decent audience. As we hope, the authors of the film will not lose face.

PS Filming started in October last year at the Lenfilm sites.


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  1. smart ass
    smart ass 17 February 2014 08: 13
    -113%
    Many beautiful words ... I would like to believe that it will be so. As my friend says, "In the meantime, it's just BLA_BLA_BLA"
    1. Bronis
      Bronis 17 February 2014 08: 27
      +146
      Quote: Clever man
      Many beautiful words ... I would like to believe that it will be so.

      Somehow it will be. I didn't really believe in the project myself. But he took part in the support as much as he could. Well, I just got so tired of "semi-official insanity" like "Burnt by the Sun", "Stalingrad" and others. So it's a matter of principle. I don't know if they will, but I want to believe that there are still normal honest people ... I really want to believe ...
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 17 February 2014 08: 53
        +103
        Yes, yes, Mikhalkov with Bondarchuk Jr. do not allow even comments!
        1. Bronis
          Bronis 17 February 2014 08: 58
          +35
          Quote: Igor39
          Yes, yes, Mikhalkov with Bondarchuk Jr. do not allow even comments!

          Children are not fathers. It seems that even Andron was surprised by the last opuses of his brother (and this is after the "White Tiger" ...)
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 17 February 2014 09: 39
            +8
            Quote: Bronis
            even Andron was surprised by the last opuses of his brother (and this after the "White Tiger" ...)

            How does Andron touch the "White Tiger"?
            1. Bronis
              Bronis 17 February 2014 09: 44
              +8
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              How does Andron touch the "White Tiger"?

              Yes, they were there with Shakhnazarov butting before filming ... and then they remembered each other. Andron also wanted to "re-screen" the "Tankist".
          2. July
            July 17 February 2014 15: 24
            +13
            On children of geniuses, Nature rests.
            1. PValery53
              PValery53 18 February 2014 07: 53
              +7
              On Fedka, she, apparently, completely dozed off (a joke)
            2. Kazakhstan
              Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 15: 47
              0
              I agree.
        2. Ivan Petrovich
          Ivan Petrovich 17 February 2014 10: 28
          +23
          that's for sure! one veteran, after watching another "masterpiece" by Mikhalkov, swore so obscenely ... in general, his words were replaced with beeps
          1. CALL.
            CALL. 18 February 2014 14: 36
            +7
            so that overly stinging fellow citizens do not have a reason to reproach officials from cinematography in the "wrong direction of funds."

            On patriotic cinema, this is "the wrong direction of funds", but about @ shitting the exploits of the Soviet people for budget (OUR) money, it is democratic. If it's democratic and liberal, I've seen such state patriotism in gro @ y.
            Nikita Mikhalkov in "Burnt by the Sun-2: Anticipation" (according to various sources, from $ 40 to $ 55 million) asks like an @ evil: "Does anyone know how to beat a German?", This despite the fact that the imperial minister of armaments and ammunition Fritz Todt at about the same time, in November 1941, reported to Hitler that the war was lost. "Seeing" director (OB) ser mikhalkov and in 2010 does not know how the Great Patriotic War ended.
          2. Kazakhstan
            Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 15: 48
            0
            Already got with their creations!
        3. rolik
          rolik 17 February 2014 12: 49
          +12
          Quote: Igor39
          Yes, yes, Mikhalkov with Bondarchuk Jr. do not allow even comments!

          Let the guys get ready for the screech of liberals of all stripes and colors.
          1. Andriuha077
            Andriuha077 17 February 2014 15: 12
            +4
            It's time to put the liberals in their place.
            What people think about them, in a search:
            Entrust the defense of Moscow to trusted and reliable persons
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 17 February 2014 16: 06
              +38
              By the way, dear trailer! hi

              Human dialogue of soldiers without pathos and white-toothed smile!
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 17 February 2014 17: 42
                +48
                Dear, I stumbled upon an animated film about the feat of Panfilov, the authors did it all the way to the ants! A very inspired tale!
                YOM: 2010
                Genre: Cartoon
                Released: CIS, Kyrgyzstan, animation studio "5 fingers"
                Director: Kulubek Bokonbaev
                His release was timed to the centenary of the Kyrgyz Soviet poet Dzhoomart Bokonbaeva and the 65 anniversary of victory in World War II. The cartoon tells about the feat of Panfilov warriors in the Battle of Moscow. The story about the events of the Great Patriotic War is closely intertwined with the Kyrgyz parable about the main defense of the country against the enemy.
                1. Aleks tv
                  Aleks tv 17 February 2014 18: 14
                  +17
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  I came across an animated film about the exploit of Panfilov’s,

                  Issued - Kyrgyzstan.
                  Year is 2010.

                  Hmm ... Respect to the creators of such animation.
                  Thanks for the video, Eugene.
                  1. Sid.74
                    Sid.74 17 February 2014 18: 19
                    +8
                    Quote: Aleks tv
                    Hmm ... Respect to the creators of such animation.
                    Thanks for the video, Eugene.

                    He himself was very surprised by the find! Not at all! Alexey hi
                2. Kahlan amnell
                  Kahlan amnell 18 February 2014 11: 47
                  +8
                  I remember this movie. Very strong! I showed him in class. There has never been SUCH silence in my class! AND SUCH eyes of the guys.
                3. Kazakhstan
                  Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 15: 51
                  +3
                  Yes, I already saw this movie. Crawled to the bones! The best movie!
              2. Konstantm
                Konstantm 17 February 2014 17: 57
                +12
                Everyone should watch. Twice every month, to begin with. In schools, an essay: "What the film 28 Panfilov's men gave me"
              3. Brother77
                Brother77 17 February 2014 19: 52
                +6
                That in these words is the essence of the inside of the soldier, well done, for the film, we beat and we will beat all scum that our country and our brothers will go to war ..
              4. m_o_r_o
                m_o_r_o 21 February 2014 11: 49
                0
                If Comrade Goblin is in the information partners, then it should be fine. In any case, no worse than the "Brest Fortress"
              5. rauffg
                rauffg 21 February 2014 15: 45
                0
                dialogue masterpiece
          2. Theophanes
            Theophanes 18 February 2014 00: 27
            +3
            And also to the fact that distributors, s ... will not rent their picture. They are all liberians. Well, no one expected anything else from Medvedev. There will be no hot hugs from patriotic films from him. It's the same not an american toy !!! I am surprised that he generally knows about the Great Patriotic War! I do not believe him, nor his government, nor his party. Let us take a memory of the fathers and grandfathers and especially the MOTHER !!!!
          3. Firstvanguard
            Firstvanguard 18 February 2014 13: 07
            +19

            Hooray comrades!
            1. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 18 February 2014 21: 52
              +3
              Pleased with the poster. They need to be hung on the central streets, for clarity.
        4. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 15: 44
          0
          They can only vulgarize everything about the Second World War.
      2. Shur
        Shur 17 February 2014 22: 00
        +4
        "Stalingrad" is a banter over our history !!!
        1. inc_non
          inc_non 18 February 2014 19: 28
          -15%
          This is a banter above you, specifically above you. Here you go to the mirror, look into your eyes - you are oboscan. Directly, honestly, and probably even fairly. What are these exclamations for?
          The stupidity of the next patriots is killing again, are you serious? What clearance can there be? The national idea is to cut the heads of the infidels. Yes, I understand the topic. The rest is bullshit. Fathers and grandfathers said that no one in Boshka had the ideas of these "Soviet" ones: they also fucked neighbors and boozed with friends, distracted by massive street cleaning, etc. Idea = instinct. There is nothing else.
          1. shasherin_pavel
            shasherin_pavel 21 February 2014 21: 39
            +1
            Quote: inc_non
            Boschke did not have the ideas of these "Soviet"

            Everyone in the "boss", what he wants to see! Wants to see "Vodka" in the store sees vodka. And whoever wants to see Dneproges and Magnitka sees the construction sites of socialism. Here, on the outskirts, not a single apartment has been built in twenty years. Hardly two houses were repaired. But even from the periphery, changes are visible, and after all, your grandfathers "with vodka" rebuilt everything the country has lived with all these twenty years.
            1. inc_non
              inc_non 25 February 2014 15: 15
              0
              Yes, I am Brababan what and how they thought. Give at least one reason not to "joke about history"! Why not?
      3. Arkon
        Arkon 20 February 2014 12: 01
        +1
        Also sent a denyuzhku.
        God forbid! smile
      4. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 15: 43
        +1
        I completely agree. Eternal memory to the defenders of the Fatherland!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 17 February 2014 08: 30
      +28
      Quote: Clever man
      "Until then, it's just BLA_BLA_BLA"

      Why are you minus a person? There were many words about patriotism, before the release of "Stalingrad" on the screens, and when you saw all this movie it turned out negative .Take off, we'll see and then we will judge.
      1. Bronis
        Bronis 17 February 2014 08: 38
        +20
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Why are you minus a person? There were a lot of words about patriotism, before the release of "Stalingrad" on the screens, but when you saw all this movie it turned out. They will shoot, see and then we will judge.

        By the way, not a minus. Anything with the movie can be. We have such time. Times were harder, but meaner - not sure ...
        The authors will not succeed or they will be deceiving - on their conscience, but if they manage to make a decent movie - thank you very much.
        The film promises to be not so much documentary as artistic. But still, I will wait for the exit. I repeat, Nikit and Fed took out the insanity. And, most importantly, state. support for their insanity with a dough cut ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 17 February 2014 08: 45
          +12
          Quote: Bronis
          The film promises to be not so much documentary as artistic

          In the USSR, many feature films were shot, but they did not spit. Maybe they knew how to shoot, but maybe they didn’t work for money.
          Quote: Bronis
          I repeat, Nikit and Fed took out the insanity. And, most importantly, state. support for their insanity with a dough cut ...

          Yes, whom he did not get.
          1. Bronis
            Bronis 17 February 2014 08: 52
            +18
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            In the USSR, many feature films were shot, but they did not spit. Maybe they knew how to shoot, but maybe they didn’t work for money.

            Other times, other values, other (for the most part) people ...
            Well, censorship - then Nikitushka also gave out a completely digestible product.
            And now - "feet on the table" and declares that he is not an intellectual, but an aristocrat ...
            1. 123321
              123321 17 February 2014 09: 44
              +7
              Regarding Nikita and Fedi, ideology is being paid from above for a bloody geben, etc. When watching a teaser, I got into nostalgia when I got to the times of the USSR. least of all I want a meat grinder, slobbery. Usually catches overcoming the prevailing circumstances.
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            3. demel2
              demel2 17 February 2014 22: 18
              +2
              The whole family is like that, the crafty courtier spoke about S. Mikhalkov. They are good at any government. (They lick with a creative approach)
            4. Kazakhstan
              Kazakhstan 19 February 2014 09: 54
              +1
              But what happens in Denmark by cruelty http://www.delphinidae.ru/publ/rodina_princa_datskogo_koshmar_dlja_delfinov_i_ki
              tov / 11-1-0-129
          2. Luzhichanin
            Luzhichanin 17 February 2014 10: 13
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, whom did he get.

            Likely me ... got insanity, if there is no strength and desire to watch the mura for the money filmed crying
            1. Ivan Petrovich
              Ivan Petrovich 17 February 2014 10: 30
              +6
              and as our president was at their anniversary ... and they have a whole clan for all times and for any power
              1. Luzhichanin
                Luzhichanin 17 February 2014 14: 09
                +3
                Duc, and they also say clans only in the Caucasus are ...
                no, it turns out that our clans are also hesitating, and not somewhere, but in culture.
                NDA, the more family we have, the structures work for the good of the Motherland, the less professional they become, and it looks like many of them have already changed their Homeland.
          3. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 17 February 2014 11: 24
            +7
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, whom did he get.

            got it. that you won't go to any movie about the Second World War - you will get the version of Transformers half-and-half with "bloody gebnya"
            1. Kazakhstan
              Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 15: 58
              0
              I completely agree.
      2. makarov
        makarov 17 February 2014 08: 47
        +11
        I have a similar opinion. How many times, over the past decades, the word "people" sounded, and then suddenly this "people" had an owner.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 17 February 2014 09: 40
          +13
          I have a similar opinion. How many times, over the past decades, the word "people" sounded, and then suddenly this "people" had an owner.
          laughing Are you talking about Gazprom? laughing
      3. kris
        kris 17 February 2014 08: 50
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        These "masterpieces" of liberal literature and "documentary literature" that sprang up after the collapse of the USSR

        Somehow we get strange.
        Liberal shit (weary of the sun and Stalingrad) is removed by members of the supreme council of united Russia. Rooster fighting Moses - a member of EP.
        So edrosnya-the main nursery of the liberals!
        And its leaders (president and prime minister) are the country's main liberalists!
        1. Ivan Petrovich
          Ivan Petrovich 17 February 2014 10: 31
          +3
          and here with a cigar more ... also of them
        2. Ivan Petrovich
          Ivan Petrovich 17 February 2014 11: 04
          +13
          Moses not EP MEMBER, but EP point
          1. makarov
            makarov 17 February 2014 13: 40
            +4
            at the expense of a point, very accurately and scrupulously noted, probably not even a point, but a "window to Europe" laughing
            1. Kazakhstan
              Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 01
              0
              I completely agree with this and welcome. good
        3. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 17 February 2014 11: 50
          +3
          And its leaders (president and prime minister) are the country's main liberalists!
          So actually V.V. Putin does not hide this, before the opening of the Olympics in Sochi, he bluntly stated that he was a liberal to foreign and Russian journalists on January 19.01.2014, XNUMX. hi
          1. zvereok
            zvereok 17 February 2014 22: 54
            0
            Figu that holds in your pocket? He speaks directly and honestly about this. Years are already blooming. What can you do if the stupid people put everything on their master - they say, he beats, then he loves ...
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        5. Magadan
          Magadan 18 February 2014 07: 11
          +1
          I cannot disagree. Let's add to this Lakhova Katka - an active propagandist of juvenile justice and "sex education" in schools. Liberation that the government is officially sitting just in words like "patriots", and only when the masses need to denounce the "Magnitsky law".
      4. 31231
        31231 17 February 2014 08: 55
        +9
        There were a lot of words about patriotism, before the release of "Stalingrad" on the screens, but when you saw all this movie it turned out. They will shoot, see and then we will judge.

        For some reason, I believe in this film more. Just look at the partners of the crew. One of them is the Russian Historical Society.
      5. Lyapis
        Lyapis 17 February 2014 09: 00
        -12%
        There were many words about patriotism, before the release of "Stalingrad" on the screens, and when you saw all this movie it turned out negative .Take off, we'll see and then we will judge.

        Yes, it’s so clear how everything will be ... No matter how interesting, patriotic and correct the film comes out, everything will slide to one, they will immediately begin to throw mud at him, accusing that everything was filmed incorrectly, the director is mediocrity, the actors are bad, by itself the movie is a ridiculous piece of work in the Hollywood manner, and in general it offends the feelings of veterans (while no one will ask the veterans about this). Something like it was with "Stalingrad". sad
      6. nemec55
        nemec55 17 February 2014 09: 07
        -8
        Well, why are you minus a person?

        It’s good when a person is a patriot, but it’s bad when he is also b_a_r_a_n. At one time, the grandfathers of these urapatriots used to be a Nagan and the grandchildren used keys (MINUSUS)
        1. MREDBEST
          MREDBEST 19 February 2014 21: 12
          +1
          Patriot a priori can not be a ram
          Quote: nemec55
          It’s good when a person is a patriot, but it’s bad when he is also b_a_r_a_n

          Patriot a priori can not be a ram. Patriotism is a high feeling, it is respect for the ancestors, for centuries-old culture, for the greatest achievements of compatriots! Patriotism is the art of loving the land on which you were born, and on which you must die ...
      7. Very old
        Very old 17 February 2014 09: 54
        +3
        That's really - everything is relative (Vysotsky did not notice empty words)
        The chicken is still in the nest
      8. Manul
        Manul 17 February 2014 17: 08
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Why are you minus a person? There were a lot of words about patriotism, before the release of "Stalingrad" on the screens, but when you saw all this movie it turned out. They will shoot, see and then we will judge.

        For example, I minus. Because as if the film was expected from Mikhalkov, or Bondarchuk-Light, I probably would not have read the article. But the Wise guy didn’t come up against anyone’s expectations. He came across the very idea of ​​folk cinema, the thought of how people got tired of narcissistic filmmakers who have scribbled or have never been geniuses. The clever man’s idea is understandable, but the form of expression itself draws a hand to minus.
    3. PPL
      PPL 17 February 2014 08: 33
      +6
      Judging by the excerpts from the movie, it should work out. good
      The truth about the war must be told by any means available. The main thing is that this would be true, and not fairy tales on the theme of war, which have recently bloomed in magnificent colors.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 17 February 2014 08: 39
        +9
        The truth about the war must be told by any means available.


        I tried - moralists and psychiatrists hit me — for many from the truth of war, the lid slides off, so it’s best to show fiction to people - it’s safer for the psyche of people.
        1. apostrophe
          apostrophe 17 February 2014 14: 37
          0
          Quote: The same Lech
          I tried


          Oh again, the uterus was not appreciated, apparently you were not lucky with the people, no luck smile
          On the Maidan, gentlemen, they will appreciate it.
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      3. matross
        matross 17 February 2014 11: 43
        +2
        Quote: PPZ
        The truth about the war must be told by any means available. The main thing is that it would be true, not fairy tales

        To do this, you need to film the memoirs of veterans. There are a lot of them now, and in good artwork - by the same Drabkin and Isaev. Otherwise "cranberry" will come out. Has anyone read the script for "folk cinema"? And the name is inappropriate - there is no need to provoke "competent historians" - opinions will immediately go: there were Panfilovites, there weren't, but how many people, and how many! These will talk about anything!
    4. Very old
      Very old 17 February 2014 09: 35
      +4
      If all the time: BLA_BLA_BLA ...
      That is not on this site
    5. samoletil18
      samoletil18 17 February 2014 10: 02
      +9
      Quote: Clever man
      .. I would like to believe that it will be so.

      Europeans raised money on the Internet for the film "Iron Sky". The result is an objective view of the modern world order.
      Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad" is not considered a national film.
    6. Vasia kruger
      Vasia kruger 17 February 2014 10: 20
      +13
      Blah blah blah or not, time will tell. But there are still examples of good films being shot. "Brest Fortress" is an example of this. So let's keep our fingers crossed.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 17 February 2014 13: 25
        +3
        Quote: Vasia Kruger
        "Brest Fortress" is an example of this. So let's keep our fingers crossed.
        There, too, everything is not in order, although the film is spectacular. The realities in the film are not shown completely,
        1. Very old
          Very old 17 February 2014 17: 57
          +2
          WURGUN
          One cannot demand full authenticity from ART
          You know the main thing is not to lie
          We won’t know the realities
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 17 February 2014 19: 24
          +3
          Quote: smersh70
          The realities in the film are not shown completely,

          good
          Today, so many film scholars and connoisseurs of history have divorced that ANYONE will never please ...
          Why Shakhnazarov in the "White Tiger" collected rare tank equipment: Grant-Lee, BTeshka, Pz-III ... And let the Tiger ride on an IS chassis.
          And what in the end ...
          1. cat 1970
            cat 1970 18 February 2014 05: 44
            +1
            .... but in the end the spirit of Hitler's "panzer" won, isn't it a hint of what is happening now ????
        3. shasherin_pavel
          shasherin_pavel 21 February 2014 21: 59
          0
          Quote: smersh70
          The realities in the film are not shown completely,

          For example, as in the educational film owls. times when documentary shots were collected: a soldier in an attack with a shrapnel cuts off his head, completely, and he continues to run for nine seconds and shoot from the PCA. Or when a close-up shot of a machine gunner with a DP who changes the store and starts shooting at the Germans, and he has bloody slurries below his lower back. Or maybe the KV tank that stopped during the battle, because the German outbreaks wedged the track, and the crowbar mechanic cleans the tracks from human flesh.
          When our FSB officers brought documentary footage filmed by Chechen fighters to Europe and showed them to their investigators behind closed doors, after twenty minutes there was not a single person left in the hall, and there were forty minutes of "Horrors of War" in the film. Who is ready to see the reality show from doc. frames and do not go crazy. The "Bret Fortress" is already worthy of respect, because they did not put the T-54 or T-64 into the frame. Although it can be understood from the chassis that well-made up IFVs were removed under the tanks. But it took half of the film to make out. In Hot Snow, they fired at radio-controlled tanks with live shells, and wooden camouflage flew off the tanks and the hulls of the T-34, or 54, became visible. But did this make the film worse?
    7. rozowik
      rozowik 17 February 2014 11: 25
      +4
      In principle, you may not believe it, but as for me, the salary has come, I will support the project, I won’t lose much, and in the future I may get the movie from it into a piggy bank and enjoy it. Is it bad?
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    9. siberalt
      siberalt 17 February 2014 11: 45
      +4
      wise guy:

      Absolutely correct words. While the state does not have ideology, the liberoid dislocations will be dragged into all spheres of life, including cinema. Their task is to erase from us the identity of Russianness, the memory of the great past, vulgarize it, betray sarcasm and chernukha. What the past is and the future. And they are well aware of this. An obvious example is Ukraine. In folk cinema, however, the idea is folk. Let's see how the human rights activists and guards will emit poisonous saliva.
    10. operrus
      operrus 17 February 2014 16: 33
      +2
      I hope this is only the beginning, in the history of Russia there are a lot of glorious military pages, that before the revolution, and after that, I want to see a patriotic movie normal without chernukha and erotica. I wish the director and the entire creative team success in this endeavor. Can the whole world really raise our culture, but the people?
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    12. Powder donut
      Powder donut 17 February 2014 19: 12
      +2
      In vain minus, you look at the filmography of the director and ask yourself the question can this person make a good movie or do not care for everyone ??
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      1. Powder donut
        Powder donut 18 February 2014 12: 32
        0
        YOU are better off on the Maidan, get involved in the work of the Nazis. and then advise =))
    14. Realist58
      Realist58 18 February 2014 23: 59
      +1
      Comrades, let’s help the project at least telling friends about it in tweets, mails, VKontakte and other classmates.
  2. Oleg56.ru
    Oleg56.ru 17 February 2014 08: 14
    +12
    I’ll definitely wait for the premiere and go to this film, and I’ll take the children with me.
    1. Truth-lover
      Truth-lover 17 February 2014 09: 25
      +5
      Here, as it should be careful. First, see for yourself, then show the children ...
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  4. mirag2
    mirag2 17 February 2014 08: 20
    +8
    The material is interesting, useful — and a huge interest in the film.
    Here is his website:
    http://28panfilovcev.com/
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 17 February 2014 08: 34
      +1
      Quote: mirag2
      The material is interesting, useful — and a huge interest in the film.

      Something like this was written before going to the screens of Stalingrad, but what about the result? Everyone wants to make a normal film at last, and often we get disappointment.
      Because until I begin to criticize, not to praise. The idea is good, but what kind of movie will be, we'll see.
      1. krpmlws
        krpmlws 17 February 2014 10: 31
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: mirag2
        The material is interesting, useful — and a huge interest in the film.

        Something like this was written before going to the screens of Stalingrad, but what about the result? Everyone wants to make a normal film at last, and often we get disappointment.
        Because until I begin to criticize, not to praise. The idea is good, but what kind of movie will be, we'll see.

        Calm down, no one expected anything from Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad". Let someone write advertising articles and that you believed them? All normal people perfectly understood what kind of g ... this "masterpiece" will be in the end.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 17 February 2014 11: 58
          +4
          [quote = krpmlws] Calm down, nobody expected anything from Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad". Let someone write advertising articles there and what did you believe them? [/ quote]
          [quote = krpmlws]
          Judging by the full movie theaters, people were waiting for a good movie.
          [quote = krpmlws] All normal people perfectly imagined what kind of g ... this "masterpiece" will be in the end. [/ quote]
          I didn’t see something with more than one comment, including yours, with similar ratings before the movie was released.
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        3. siberalt
          siberalt 17 February 2014 12: 04
          +6
          The film "Stalingrad" was filmed not for the people, but for the people, who hawk popcorn, and to delight the West, like fast food. What is Bondarchuk's big question in him? A purely commercial project using symbols that our people inherited at the cost of blood and unprecedented self-sacrifice. Now the grandmother is doing it.
        4. Manul
          Manul 17 February 2014 17: 18
          +1
          Quote: krpmlws
          Calm down, no one expected anything from Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad". Let someone write advertising articles and that you believed them? All normal people perfectly understood what kind of g ... this "masterpiece" will be in the end.

          I’m joining! There’s not even a single drop of hope for a successful film. I hoped for only one thing - that would turn out to be a simple crap, not a spit in the soul of the people. Since I didn’t look and did not intend, I judge only by the general degree of comments. And it seems even that my only expectation did not come true.
        5. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 17 February 2014 20: 28
          +4
          Quote: krpmlws
          Calm down, no one expected anything from Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad". Let someone write advertising articles and that you believed them?

          But in Soviet times, films were shot without any advertising. And what kind of masterpieces turned out, the streets were empty during their screening. And now they just work out the loot invested by the sponsor and that's it. To make a good, believable film about the war, it seems to me that you need to be a participant in it yourself. With someone’s words, it’s much harder to do, even with consultants. But as they say: the attempt is not torture, let's see what happens at the St. Petersburg studio.
      2. apostrophe
        apostrophe 17 February 2014 14: 46
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Something like this was written before going to the screens of Stalingrad, but what about the result?


        On the fence, too, they write a lot of things, do you believe everyone? or after 9 companies expected a true and patriotic film?
        Judging by an interview with the creators of 28 Pamfilovites and the video, the correct film should be obtained.
    2. cat 1970
      cat 1970 18 February 2014 06: 03
      +2
      In 1998, the son began to receive deuces in history. The son loved history, when asked why deuces, he said, dad, you read the textbook yourself. I will not bring all the pearls, only one. There are two and a half lines about the Second World War (literally, the Great Patriotic War began on June 22, 1941, ended on May 9, 1945. 27 million people died in it. (As it was written - MAN) AND EVERYTHING. But about the landing in Normandy - ALREADY FOR SEVEN WITH HALF SHEETS ... Here is the MATERIAL for you, what do the guys who grew up on such textbooks know? I solved this problem in my family by picking up good books for my child, and I took that history textbook to school, tossed it in history, and I threw it at children him into the corner, said that this is not our story, but American. I think the children understand me correctly and ....
  5. ale-x
    ale-x 17 February 2014 08: 20
    +15
    I watched the trailer back in the fall. He even made a modest contribution.
  6. Baton
    Baton 17 February 2014 08: 23
    +17
    This kind of advertising on the site is exactly what you need!
    God bless the film in the best traditions of Soviet cinema.
    1. Alexey K.
      Alexey K. 18 February 2014 04: 22
      +2
      I liked Brest Fortress from the last films about the war. I reviewed it several times. Captures and keeps in suspense to the end, you really empathize with the heroes, I wanted to run into the attack myself with our fighters. God grant that "Panfilov's 28" would be the same film.
  7. vovich
    vovich 17 February 2014 08: 28
    +5
    The thing is undoubtedly necessary. But the position of the Fund for the Support of Patriotic Cinema, to put it mildly, is not clear. To say the least. Whom do they support actually?
  8. smart ass
    smart ass 17 February 2014 08: 30
    +1
    I remember the people, I also wrote enthusiastically about Bondarchuk's Stalingrad) let's hope. It must be judged by the result
  9. Petr1
    Petr1 17 February 2014 08: 36
    +4
    already listing drinks
  10. Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 17 February 2014 08: 43
    +6
    I doubt very much that the authors of the film will dare to insert into the film the world famous: "Russia is great, and there is nowhere to retreat - Moscow is behind" - political instructor Klochkov. After all, this is the same communist said, and this is not a politically sustained moment. In general, the film (God forbid it be created) will be boycotted both on TV and in the cinema network. The Kremlin's unspoken ban will close its path to the mass audience. After all, the current gentlemen, who are in power in Russia, control the information policy of "this stgana" not only by the ruble, but mainly by administrative-repressive methods.
    1. 31231
      31231 17 February 2014 09: 02
      +5
      The Kremlin's unspoken ban will close its path to the mass audience. After all, the current gentlemen, who are in power in Russia, control the information policy of "this stgana" not only by the ruble, but mainly by administrative-repressive methods.

      What nonsense are you writing? Who told you they would block the road?
      If the film really turns out to be patriotic, people will go to it and no one will bother them. You write as if we live in a state with bloody censorship.
      1. Ivan Petrovich
        Ivan Petrovich 17 February 2014 11: 08
        +4
        we have very strict censorship on television. it's time to wipe your eyes
        1. 31231
          31231 17 February 2014 17: 12
          +1
          we have very strict censorship on television.

          Are you from the Rain channel? Well then, I understand you.
      2. JonnyT
        JonnyT 17 February 2014 14: 23
        +2
        Quote: 31231
        If the film really turns out to be patriotic, people will go to it and no one will bother them.
        Where will they go ???? In cinemas it may not be shown, at the direction of the gentlemen from the Ministry of Culture ..... this film will be counteracted at the very beginning ..... they will constantly try to frustrate or change everything ..... Now they show only tolerant with an admixture of liberal theses .....
        1. 31231
          31231 17 February 2014 17: 14
          0
          Where will they go ???? In cinemas it may not be shown, at the direction of the gentlemen from the Ministry of Culture ..... this film will be counteracted at the very beginning ..... they will constantly try to frustrate or change everything ..... Now they show only tolerant with an admixture of liberal theses .....

          Do you run ahead of the cart? Not?
          Call at least one modern film that was banned and banned due to ideological considerations ?! What does a patriotic film, and not poorno.
    2. IsailoR
      IsailoR 17 February 2014 09: 32
      +7
      Why doubt it? The words are spoken. It is a fact. The communist said? So this is the story of my country. You can’t cut it with an ax. Aren't the words right? Not at all. Very well and the case said. And who cares who said them. And the film is created specifically for public money, so as not to depend on politicians pursuing momentary interests.
      Dixi.
      1. RBLip
        RBLip 18 February 2014 09: 23
        0
        someone's shadow? or are such thoughts attended by a rather large number of people? hi
    3. RBLip
      RBLip 17 February 2014 09: 32
      +11
      Quote: ICE
      I very much doubt that the authors of the film will dare to insert into the film the world-famous: "Russia is great, and there is nowhere to retreat - Moscow is behind" - political instructor Klochkov.

      Why not? why did all of us sprout this liberalism? yes, political instructor, yes, he said. fact. He didn’t die for his homeland? the Bolsheviks are part of our history, part, if you will, of our Motherland with you. and, I think, far from the worst part. not for nothing the chances of capturing the Jews with the commissars immediately tried to identify. I mean, at that very difficult moment in the country, it was the Bolsheviks who became the nucleus around which people rallied. Yes, I’m not a communist, not sympathetic, I have never been a Komsomol member. I am for the truth.
      1. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 19
        0
        I was an Octobrist, a pioneer, and a Komsomol member. And the ideology was very strong. And friendship with ordinary people from the countries of the Warsaw Pact (Poland, Hungary, etc.). Being at a seminar in Budapest in 2000 with participants from these countries, I felt what it means to have a common, albeit small history, common mentality. There were also participants from the USA at the seminar, but the difference in mentality is strongly felt. I spoke with residents of Budapest, my age and older, in Russian, which they still speak well. And this is also the truth of our life.
    4. Hariva
      Hariva 17 February 2014 09: 34
      +2
      Quote: ICE
      In general, the film (God willing to create it) will be prepared smartly

      Of course of course! And the entire film crew will certainly receive "8 years without correspondence"
    5. samoletil18
      samoletil18 17 February 2014 10: 17
      +5
      Quote: ICE
      I doubt very much that the authors of the film will dare to insert into the film the world famous: "Russia is great, and there is nowhere to retreat - Moscow is behind" - political instructor Klochkova

      They make a film with public money, here the risk is not to insert these words. The people will not understand and will not forgive.
    6. Svetlana
      Svetlana 17 February 2014 11: 52
      +4
      Quote: ICE
      The Kremlin’s tacit ban will block his path to the mass audience.

      Television is controlled, and if people like it, they will feel that it is real, dear, and not just another avatar, they will find a way to watch the movie. Do we, Russians, bother with this issue? The forbidden fruit is sweet, therefore, on the contrary, the ban will cause even greater interest.
    7. Assistant
      Assistant 17 February 2014 22: 02
      +1
      In general, the film (God forbid it be created) will be prepared for a boycott both on TV and in the cinema network.


      For such cases, there is digital delivery over the network. And if the movie turns out to be good, then regardless of anyone's will it will appear on trackers and file hosting sites.
      There was such an example, however, the opposite of the one under discussion. The film "Green Elephant", due to its negative artistic (and indeed any) value, was practically never shown anywhere, but almost all of it became one big Internet meme for the generation of shkolota.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 17 February 2014 22: 12
        0
        Why didn't "Heart of the Enemy" come out anywhere?
        1. Assistant
          Assistant 18 February 2014 01: 52
          0
          Why didn't the "Enemy Heart" float out anywhere?


          I put it inaccurately. In most cases, you need a ready-made rental version, and in any case, for someone to digitize the film. In your case ... I don’t know where to start. Maybe you can find out if there was a digitized version of the film and who did it ...
          1. Assistant
            Assistant 19 February 2014 01: 21
            +1
            By the way, I still have not found the text of Baurzhan Momyshuly's course of lectures "The Psychology of War", but I hope that over time this text will surface on the Internet.
            Incidentally, it is directly related to the subject of discussion.
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            3. Alex 241
              Alex 241 19 February 2014 01: 34
              +1
              This is a book, type in the search engine "bauyrzhan momyshuly read the psychology of war" and you will find, from the site copying is prohibited, links do not work.
            4. Kazakhstan
              Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 26
              +1
              Here is the link http://t-ryskulov.zhambyl.kz/index.php?action=news&lan=rus&mo=03&da=19&yr=2011&n
              ews_id = 94 & hoster = zhambyl
  11. JonnyT
    JonnyT 17 February 2014 08: 49
    +7
    I look forward to!
    For a long time I wanted to see a real patriotic film, without any political crap
  12. 31231
    31231 17 February 2014 08: 51
    +4
    The film is needed. Especially seeing what has now grown in Western Ukraine.
  13. calocha
    calocha 17 February 2014 08: 57
    +5
    And, did you try to turn to Putin ?! Try it! Budget money, they are Narodnye. Even wondering what the reaction would be? In general, it's great to create a series of films under criticism and with the consent and approval of the script of the participants of the Great Patriotic War for the People's Means ... "masters" such as Mikhalkov and Bondarchuk began hiccups .. I wish you success !!! To the Glory of the Russian with a paycheck I will send money, I will make a modest contribution ... to good undertakings!
    1. 31231
      31231 17 February 2014 17: 17
      +1
      But didn’t you try to contact Putin ?! Try! Budget money, they and People’s.


      Then I think, what a snag ?! It is necessary that someone famous would vouch for the money that they would be spent on the film. For example, Andron Konchalovsky or the same Sergey Glazyev podsuetsilsya.
    2. Snoop
      Snoop 23 February 2014 00: 17
      0
      They have already addressed both Putin and the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation, but not a response and no greetings. Therefore, the idea was born to make a film with national money.
  14. AraSR
    AraSR 17 February 2014 09: 00
    +35
    I have been reading Topvar for a long time, did not register because "Chukchi is not a writer, Chukchi is a reader!"
    But I couldn’t calmly go past this topic. I look forward to this film. There’s a passage, so to speak, for the seed.

    1. Slavapom
      Slavapom 17 February 2014 10: 49
      +17
      Powerful episode !!! I wish the authors of the film also make the whole film, because if the whole film is shot like this episode, then the film will be BOMB, how much will the liberal stench be hard to even imagine. Bondarchuk-Mikhalkovskaya shobla on the snot will come out and drown in them
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 17 February 2014 13: 30
      +3
      Quote: AraSR
      There’s a passage, so to speak, for the seed.

      and the monologue didn’t expect anything, they’re really guttering ... if in this vein the whole film goes, then hi
    3. RBLip
      RBLip 17 February 2014 13: 59
      +1
      class! look forward to.
      1. alone
        alone 17 February 2014 22: 45
        +4
        I watched the video and thought about it. When our grandfathers went to the Fritz. They didn’t ask who was who. Everyone knew that they were Soviet soldiers and were going to beat the damned enemy. And not like now)
  15. santush
    santush 17 February 2014 09: 01
    +5
    I would like to wish the film crew success and believe in a truly patriotic film.
  16. demotivator
    demotivator 17 February 2014 09: 03
    +12
    We decided to publish this material for the reason that the creation of a patriotic film about the war was really ripe

    You can certainly argue with that. Indeed - it is ripe.
  17. mountain
    mountain 17 February 2014 09: 09
    +13
    I grew up on the heroism and patriotism of films staged in the USSR, and today we are shown the false heroism of mostly Americans. Only with both hands, wrest our children from ticks, foreign patriotism.
    1. Shur
      Shur 17 February 2014 22: 38
      +1
      Hi Valera. It's easier to cram any g ... into an "empty" head, but now? In Russia, there is a complete vacuum in the heads of young people .. I'm just shocked by their "contents". I am not against advanced technology, etc. , but in the sauce of "Western ideology" it's like a candy poured over a ... m.
    2. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 30
      0
      I collect our Soviet films about the courage and patriotism of our grandfathers for the younger generation. Simple but intimidating stories.
  18. DNX1970
    DNX1970 17 February 2014 09: 18
    +7
    They take on serious topics, and often shoot it sucks! They put more effort into advertising than into the film itself! The main slogan is: "You don't like it? You are not a patriot."
  19. Clueless
    Clueless 17 February 2014 09: 19
    -15%
    The problem is that make any film, its locals who are sitting quietly on the pope, who do not want to serve in the army, will nevertheless smear it with feces. Whether it’s filmed Stalingrad, be the same Panfilov’s. Even if Private Rain was removed from us, they would still be smeared.

    And the author - why is it bad that films are made with state money? We will notice our money, they are created from our taxes and profits. Another thing is that they remove pure slag like Burnt by the Sun 2 (note the first burnt by the sun was a very good film), but here is another opera.

    Making a film is not a problem, raising money with the people is also not a problem, the problem will then be to launch it. It may simply not be allowed to go to cinemas. And if they let them go, where will the profits go? In their pocket or will they return to those who helped with the filming? ;)

    And the most interesting thing is that when starting projects on the same Kickstarter, for example, developers promise some bonuses to those who threw themselves off (and not a place in the credits). What can directors offer? I don’t see much of what (I don’t need current about patriotism - about it below).

    And from the series - we make a film for the money of those who remember the war, without taking a penny from the state - idiots (generally this is a literary word) well, I can say briefly -. For making money on patriotism is the last thing (namely earnings - for all who are removed there will receive their fees). If you have direct patriotism, it’s better to help orphanages, adopt children from them, etc.

    And then they raise the topic - such as the state of our city, but, it did not give us money, but we are such geniuses, and no one listens to us. So speak very quietly, and therefore do not listen. And I will say more - with this approach you won’t raise money, and you don’t have to yell - that there are no patriots in the country, that’s why there’s no dough, but because they don’t earn money on patriotism, because if all such patriots are on the set, then everyone will agree work for food (actors, graphic specialists, etc.), part of the sponsors will offer, collectors, etc., and a small part will go only to purchase inventory.
    1. Tanysh
      Tanysh 17 February 2014 13: 07
      +8
      Do you have a Jewish calculator in your head? Besides personal bonuses, what do you not see? The way people will do what they may not want to help - do not bother!
    2. Tanysh
      Tanysh 17 February 2014 14: 41
      0
      Do you have a Jewish calculator in your head? Besides personal bonuses, what do you not see? The way people will do what they may not want to help - do not bother!
    3. apostrophe
      apostrophe 17 February 2014 15: 05
      +2
      Quote: Bad
      The problem is that make any film, its locals who are sitting quietly on the pope, who don’t want to serve in the army, still do not want to smear it with feces. Be it the shot of Stalingrad, be it the same Panfilovites. Even if Private Rain was removed from us, they would still be smeared.


      And from what conclusions is such an interesting conclusion drawn?
      Or is it important to stain an unborn movie with such shit like Stalingrad?
    4. lucidlook
      lucidlook 17 February 2014 17: 41
      0
      What can I say ...

    5. Shur
      Shur 17 February 2014 22: 42
      0
      Cynical m and d to! (no less literary word).
  20. IsailoR
    IsailoR 17 February 2014 09: 21
    +11
    I listed last December.
    I want such films to be shot in my country. To have something to show my son.
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 17 February 2014 15: 48
      +2
      Quote: IsailoR
      I listed last December.
      I want such films to be shot in my country. To have something to show my son.

      good
      Similarly.
      And he made it so that the daughter SAMA listed.

      That’s the whole conversation. No blah, blah, blah.
      yes
  21. MahsusNazar
    MahsusNazar 17 February 2014 09: 24
    +7
    I will list! And I’ll go to the film, and I’ll take the children (even though there are twenty of them)
    The main thing is for the guys to make a film (excerpts are already taken for life0
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 18 February 2014 11: 56
      +1
      The main thing is for the guys to make a film (excerpts are already taken for life0

      It will turn out! And so that we, the people, will help.
  22. Clueless
    Clueless 17 February 2014 09: 30
    0
    By the way, in the video that the last one was published in the comments so quickly flashed - The Russian military-historical society - who do not know - this is the state structure;)

    http://histrf.ru/ru/rvio/rvio/ukaz-1710
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  24. Normman
    Normman 17 February 2014 09: 44
    +10
    I invite the site administration to think about establishing a national award for works of military-patriotic themes. Articles, books, films, songs. The jury is sure to veterans, heroes of military orders, mothers and wives of soldiers who died for their homeland. I think among readers and authors of the site there are many who want to contribute to the prize pool. Since the state does not support, you can do without it!
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 17 February 2014 09: 51
      +4
      Quote: Normman
      Since the state does not support, you can do without it!

      not allowed. the state is not only bureaucrats. it's us. we are also parts of this state. and the idea is sound. You are a plus.
      1. Normman
        Normman 17 February 2014 13: 03
        +3
        I agree, I got excited about the state! Please read instead of "state" - "officials"!
  25. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 17 February 2014 10: 02
    +9
    Well, sooner or later, I think we will have our own Spielberg, at the moment I don’t see such people, almost all Russian cinema for the period 1991-2014 can be safely handed over to a landfill, I don’t understand what a person is guided by filming obvious crap, I’m constantly I'm trying to take the place of, say, the US leadership in the Cold War or Hitler in the end to understand their motives and try to understand the meaning of their actions, and often everything becomes clear, at least for me, but when I take the place of the same Mikhalkov, I just don't I can understand him, a person acts absolutely irrationally, I could expect such a film as "Burnt by the Sun 2", say, from the Baltic states, from a director from Western Ukraine, so much hatred towards his people from a person who positions himself as a patriot to see well, at least strange. For example, what happened to the same Spielberg, if he shot "Saving Private Ryan" or "Pacific Front" "according to Mikhalkov"? For example, American rangers landing on Omaha beach without weapons?with sticks. And the bunker is destroyed not by an American flamethrower, but by a mouse? What is it? And other nonsense in the spirit of Mikhalkov ... Yes, Spielberg would have been blown off his head right away, he would not even have time to pronounce the word "perfectionism". I realized that the 90s are over and the people are no longer the same and most likely as a director “died.” “Stalingrad” from Fedya, a little different, this is the intro to Call of Duty + Love Story. I don't know what Konstantin Sergeevich Stanislavsky would say about Mikhalkov's "creation" would probably not have been theatrical, but about Fedya "I don't believe ..." unambiguously. This is a movie for girls in the scenery of a beautifully burning city, in principle you can watch it once, but it does not evoke any feelings. If the director wanted to convey something to the viewer, then I did not understand him, which means that the director as an artist failed his "mission". Fedya should have had his father's "They Fought for the Motherland" or "Waterloo" to revise, depending on what Fedya wants to say his future "creation". Well, if he wants to shoot another "empty" glam to shoot an urny film, then go ahead and with a song ...
    So to the creator of the film "28 Panfilov's men", first you need to figure out what they want to convey to the viewer with their work, it is clear that in order to make a really good film, you do not need multimillion-dollar budgets, since Balabanov has fully proved this, and "for who "this film is being shot, for the liberals, for the authorities," for show "or for ordinary people.
    1. lucidlook
      lucidlook 17 February 2014 17: 46
      +2
      Quote: Standard Oil
      and "for whom" this film is being shot, for the liberals, for the authorities, "for show" or for ordinary people.

      The rule is simple - who gives money, he orders the music.
  26. ed65b
    ed65b 17 February 2014 10: 09
    +11
    Someone will say: pathos ... But what is wrong with healthy pathos?
    I don’t think that a soldier with a grenade rushing at the tank thought about whether he was pathos or not and how he looked from the side. may God make a film to help them and if it turns out to be better than Fedkins and Mikhalkov's opuses I will be very happy. Ustyugova noticed in the role.
  27. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 17 February 2014 10: 10
    +2
    There are a lot of films about the great. another thing is what to give to watch for your children and what not. I, brought up by a generation that survived those terrible years, can still determine what to watch for my son and what not. and if I like the movie, I will definitely watch it with him again. it is necessary to drive the spirit of patriotism into the heads of the younger generation, but without fanaticism. For example, we looked with him and the white tiger (albeit on the brink of science fiction) and the star, and we are from the future, anonymous height. The fine baht is still too early for him.
    1. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 34
      0
      I agree, wonderful films.
  28. Clueless
    Clueless 17 February 2014 10: 15
    +1
    Quote: Standard Oil
    "Stalingrad" by Fedya, a little different, this is the intro to Call of Duty + Love Story.


    You confuse commercial cinema, and documentary cinema. And those examples that you brought - the people would not go to him in the movies. And thanks to STALINGRAD, the youth went to the cinema and watched the film OUR and about US (well, a little about the Germans - because the film is international).

    And about landing without guns, etc. Amers have a film about our sniper - "ENEMY AT THE GATES" is called, and that I do not remember srach in the 2000s about this, like not realistic, etc. For many have Russian fun - we smear everything that is ours, we praise everything imported, but at the same time we call ourselves patriots. I call such people differently - :) Since they are the same patriots, like Obama is white :)
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 17 February 2014 10: 47
      +5
      Quote: Bad
      Amers have a film about our sniper - "ENEMY AT THE GATES" is called, and I don’t remember a shit in the 2000s about this,

      With connection! laughing As for the "Enemy at the Gates", more than one bundle of copies was broken. Arno even apologized for saying that he wanted to show the opposite. hi
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    3. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil 17 February 2014 10: 50
      +6
      You want to say that the people need a stupid show? There should be no sense? What is the idea of ​​the film "Stalingrad" please enlighten. Let's shoot a bunch of senseless and stupid films. The same "Enemy at the Gates" the entire film was "dragged" only by Ed Harris, only for his sake you can watch this film. If "28 Panfilov's men" is the same as "Stalingrad" by Bondarchuk, then this is another failure.
      1. kris
        kris 17 February 2014 11: 05
        +6
        Quote: Standard Oil
        What is the idea behind the film "Stalingrad"

        Salvage to cut down and amuse the vanity of the unifiedrast clipmaker!
      2. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 17 February 2014 12: 54
        +2
        You want to say that people need a dumb show?
        Modern cinema, as you rightly said, is a show for most, it is clearly visible when you come to the cinema to watch. Most of the spectators who come are in front of the cinema with popcorn and cola (or beer). hi
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      4. Luga
        Luga 17 February 2014 13: 36
        +3
        Quote: Standard Oil
        .If you remove the love line from "Stalingrad", there will be a senseless CoD cutter, remove the cutter, and you will forgive "Twilight".

        Bold plus good
        Regarding the film under discussion - I was particularly surprised by the alleged absence of a love line. Is it possible in our time to make a film about the war without sperm, tears and snot? Does this mean that the authors are not going to make money on this film, because half of the possible audience is immediately cut off by this message? Well, it would be nice - maybe in the movie it will smell less popcorn.
        In short, I am for it. I liked the published snippets. I'll go to the film.
        1. Assistant
          Assistant 17 February 2014 22: 17
          +1
          Is it possible in our time to make a film about the war without sperm, tears and snot?


          Well, Spielberg, as it were, turned out 2 times. You see, you can, if you want well ...
          By the way, Ptashuk succeeded, however, he did not reach the quality of the source text.
        2. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 36
          0
          I'll go too. good
    4. apostrophe
      apostrophe 17 February 2014 15: 10
      +2
      Quote: Bad
      And thanks to STALINGRAD, the youth went to the cinema and watched the film OUR and about US (well, a little about the Germans - because the film is international).


      Excellent gradation, even if the film is shit, but ours is about us. With such a worldview, you need the last armored train, and the rest of the slag to admire.
    5. Manul
      Manul 17 February 2014 17: 47
      +1
      Quote: Bad
      the youth went to the cinema and watched the film OUR and about US

      That is, do you think that if "Stalingrad" was filmed in such a way that the sane part of the population would not spit on it, then young people would not go to it? Is such a patriotic movie necessary then? Who does not want to watch serious films on serious themes, there is Star Wars and so on. Do not mix concepts. For patriotism of young people, you can shoot something in the spirit of "In the zone of special attention." And to justify the fanaticism of pseudo-directors over cinema in such ways is not worth it.
  29. Leshka
    Leshka 17 February 2014 10: 30
    +5
    finally took up the education of youth at least someone
  30. Prometey
    Prometey 17 February 2014 10: 31
    +7
    "Aty-baty, soldiers were walking" by L. Bykov is still an unsurpassed folk film about the Great Patriotic War (for my personal taste). So far I have not seen a film about the war stronger.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 17 February 2014 11: 47
      +5
      Quote: Prometey
      "Aty-bats, soldiers were walking"

      But what about "Only old men go to battle"? Also a masterpiece. But from the books about the war, I liked Ivan Akulov's "Epiphany" the most. hi
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      2. creak
        creak 17 February 2014 12: 59
        +4
        In my opinion, a wonderful film about the Second World War was shot at one time - "In War as in War" - the film is good because it was filmed without distortions - without inappropriate pathos on the one hand and chernukha on the other ... In addition, the success of the film contributed to the fact that it was filmed based on the story of the front-line soldier Kurochkin of the same name, plus a wonderful acting ensemble - it turned out what you need ... Just like with the film "The Dawns Here Are Quiet" - the story of the war participant B. Vasiliev and the skill of the filmmakers. ..
        1. housekeeper
          housekeeper 17 February 2014 13: 28
          +3
          You can also add "They fought for the Motherland", "Hot Snow" and many others. After all, before, both directors and actors were for the most part direct participants in the events. Yes, and the veterans were still strong and there were many of them, they could express their disagreement with the interpretation of "straight in the face."
          1. ed65b
            ed65b 17 February 2014 14: 15
            +3
            Quote: little house
            "Hot Snow"

            By the way, the film also had a love line, but it was filed so that it did not contradict the meaning of the film and looked organically. And in almost all films shot in the USSR, love did not distract from the main thing, the defense of the motherland.
            1. Kazakhstan
              Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 42
              0
              I agree, a wonderful movie.
          2. Kazakhstan
            Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 41
            0
            I agree, wonderful films.
        2. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 40
          0
          I agree, wonderful films. You are charged with a feeling of patriotism and hatred of the enemy who encroached on our Fatherland. It’s a pity for the guys who laid down their heads for us. Eternal memory to them!
      3. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 17 February 2014 19: 12
        +4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        But what about "Only old men go to battle"?

        Nice, yes. But "Chronicle of a Dive Bomber" more deeply and more accurately revealed the topic of aviation + war.
        1. Kazakhstan
          Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 43
          0
          I agree, a wonderful movie.
      4. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 40
        0
        I agree, a wonderful movie.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 17 February 2014 19: 09
      +1
      Quote: Prometey
      "Aty-bats, soldiers were walking" by L. Bykov - so far unsurpassed

      "Hot snow" is definitely very close to the source.
    3. AraSR
      AraSR 18 February 2014 03: 48
      +1
      Recently - "Brest Fortress". In my opinion, a film about the war has not been filmed for the last 20 years.
      1. Kazakhstan
        Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 43
        0
        I agree, a wonderful movie.
    4. Kazakhstan
      Kazakhstan 20 February 2014 16: 39
      0
      I agree, a wonderful movie. You are charged with a feeling of patriotism and hatred of the enemy who encroached on our Fatherland. It’s a pity for the guys who laid down their heads for us. Eternal memory to them!
  31. pensioner
    pensioner 17 February 2014 10: 37
    +7
    The matter is of course noble and very necessary. With all my heart I wish the Authors good luck in this difficult task: creating a movie on the theme of the Great Patriotic War.
    But cats scratch their hearts all the same ... After all, over these 20 plus years they filmed so much shit on this topic that you no longer believe in the best ... I can, perhaps, note from what I watched, only such as : "Star", "Cuckoo", "Ferry", the television film "Silence" (1992, Sverdlovsk film studio) and, again, a television movie about a sapper (I do not remember the name) with A. Fedortsov in the title role. And, perhaps, everything ... Surely there are still worthy films, but I have not come across them ...
    1. housekeeper
      housekeeper 17 February 2014 13: 34
      +5
      A good film "Brest Fortress" 2010, directed by Alexander Kott. "We are from the future" 2008, directed by Andrey Malyukov.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 17 February 2014 14: 16
        +2
        Quote: little house
        Good film "Brest Fortress" 2010

        I apologize! hi Forgot fool
        Totally agree! hi
      2. RBLip
        RBLip 17 February 2014 14: 25
        +1
        Quote: little house
        A good film "Brest Fortress" 2010, directed by Alexander Kott.

        as much as memory serves, the Belarus brothers took off the fortress. you and Libya don't liberalize them (white envy) ...
        Quote: little house
        "We are from the future" 2008, directed by Andrey Malyukov.

        the movie is not bad. that's just love here - carrots in large numbers ....
    2. Alex 241
      Alex 241 17 February 2014 13: 53
      +5
      Yura hello. The film is called "Chaklun and Rumba"
      1. pinachet
        pinachet 17 February 2014 14: 05
        +3
        on DVD it was called "the second mistake of the sapper"
      2. pensioner
        pensioner 17 February 2014 14: 18
        +2
        Thank you, Sasha! hi I watched it twice. The second time on purpose, to check the sensations after the first viewing. Decent movie hi . What do you think?
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 17 February 2014 14: 44
          +2
          You know, although you thought Fedortsov was a "lightweight" serial actor, the film is very catchy.
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 17 February 2014 14: 49
            +1
            Quote: Alex 241
            You know, although you thought Fedortsov was a "lightweight" serial actor, the film is very catchy.

            Yes, I agree. But behind all the series, Fedortsov has a remarkable acting potential. He could very well have taken the place in the cinema and theater that N. Trofimov from the BDT had once occupied. Well ... So it seems to me ... As an art critic ... repeat
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 17 February 2014 14: 54
              +2
              Yura absolutely agrees, he opened up with age. It's just that there is no suitable "material" for him, these serials are from here. And as a simple soldier, he revealed himself as a talent.
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 17 February 2014 21: 34
                0
                Yes, and in the serials he did not outplay, as in his time A. Panin ... His (A. Panin) role in the film "Rider named Death" (based on the story of B. Savenkov "Pale Horse" ...) is one of the highest achievements of acting in the 21st century ... As young people say - IMHO ...
  32. negeroi
    negeroi 17 February 2014 10: 44
    +2
    And what about the folk film? And why is it folk? The author of the article, in my opinion, planted a pig for himself. Since it turns out that folk is fabulous, that is. that which, in his opinion, will appeal to a simple inexperienced viewer. Like tales about Ivan the Fool. A hero from the people, and he succeeds.

    I haven’t read comments, because I know what they are saying to the letter. Some curse the cinema for untruth and smear, and then recall Soviet popular paintings with admiration. Others just don’t know what they want, but just poke. Still others don’t accept commercialization and the game style. films. I myself am eagerly glad that our Myth factory has finally worked. And it doesn’t matter to me whether the film is popular or not. A good film is not a historical truth that no one knows, and each has its own version. A good film is just a good film. The historical truth is not in cinema, but in memoirs, but in historical research, it was, is and will be. Most of those present here know about the war of 1812 from fiction and cinema, and at the same time are dissatisfied with modern cinema, which performs the same function as and 100. and 50 years ago - heroization, mythologizing. The boys go to the cinema for action, that's fine, you need to create action films. And then the generation has grown that considers Seagal to be a hero, yes Rimbaud, and right now there are people here who and youthful uprisings carried through life. They only admire not Panfilov’s but their enemies. We even need popular patriotic films, and the name popular, more likely an advertising move than anything related to reality.
    1. Volodin
      17 February 2014 12: 46
      +6
      And what about the national film? And why is it national? Like a fairy tale about Ivanushka the Fool.


      There is always a person who will turn any idea inside out and ask "tricky, far-reaching" questions. Do not look for a "trick" - just read the material to the end, if you have already undertaken to read, and even more so if you have undertaken to write a long comment. There (after the title ...) to you about the patriotic essence of the film and explains.

      Did not read comments
      Well, don't be shy, you didn't read the article either (you walked diagonally) ...

      And "people's" means that it is being filmed with money that any person (from the people), including you, can invest in his shooting. If you are not one of those who are ready to support such an idea, then no one is going to agitate you.
      1. negeroi
        negeroi 17 February 2014 13: 42
        -3
        You are right and the article obliquely. And it is precisely those who wrap their commercial interests in Narodny who are campaigning for the idea. I know not by hearsay what cinema is, what it is made of and how. It is from simpletons that they want to siphon at least some amount to sell their ambitions and support of their own pants. No far-reaching questions arise from a completely reasonable question. Everything is extremely clear, to which I paid attention. To put it mildly, it is ugly to take money, knowing that they will not be enough for five minutes of the film, except for pins To the organizers of this win-win lottery. I will not be a conscience, because there is nothing. And if everything is really so serious, then the producers would take care of a relatively legal way of taking money, using SMS subscription. Providers willingly go for this, for their share. And with the help of your own work, and direct responsibilities, and ABILITIES. And if you were worried about the film, you could see Joy in my commentary, due to the fact that there is a patriotic project.touched the moment BABLA, because the editorial board went on this dubious, but still, patriotic action. And now brand your enemies pathetically. I am one of those who Knows how much a movie costs, and it’s true, I will not be able to agitate. Your conscience allows those who do not know to agitate. could make sense if it was ALL-RUSSIAN, on all the resources of the country. And you rush into a fight, because you have allowed yourself stupidity, and I am to blame for it. You can sacredly believe that a film can be shot for three kopecks, and beat everyone in the face, who dared to doubt. Only a film is still for three kopecks to remove. You can collect funds for anything by subscription for years. Only in our economy, inflation will gobble up these years of collecting. How many years have already filmed films been "hanging" in film studios, and we and all over the world, there is no money for housekeeping, for voice acting, for salaries, for rent arrears, etc. Okay, let's hope that I'm mean and you're in luck.
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        2. matross
          matross 17 February 2014 15: 12
          -2
          negeroi
          I risk not getting into the mainstream, but you are a plus. Earnestly. These good intentions of good people paved the road to ... not there, in short. A film with crowd scenes, costumes, with historical equipment, computer graphics (and without it it is very expensive, the times of "War and Peace" cannot be returned), location filming with the construction of scenery - this is really EXPENSIVE. What's the catch?
          PS I personally have not donated money yet. However, honestly, I do not press.
        3. lucidlook
          lucidlook 17 February 2014 17: 54
          0
          Do not boil, any undertaking goes (if it goes) from small to large. Do you want a nationwide initiative? Fine! I think no one is against it, especially the fundraising initiative group. Offer them your help. I think, for a good cause - I mean the development of patriotic cinema - you will not break the ten-fold price tag, right, right? She decorates modesty.
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      3. pensioner
        pensioner 17 February 2014 14: 28
        0
        Quote: Volodin
        I didn’t read the comments. Well, don’t be shy, you didn’t read the article either (they went diagonally) ...

        Are you an ulcer, Alex ... repeat
        Quote: Volodin
        There is always a person who will turn any idea inside out and ask "tricky, far-reaching" questions.
        That: yes, yes ...
        Here I have another question, as it were, formed ... Wouldn't our "cinema artists" consider this initiative as an attempt to invade their space? Like, "This is our cow and we milk it?" After all, the audience's interest in cinema is still somehow limited by the size of the audience's wallet. In the presence of a parallel (I will call it that ...) cinema, it will be much more difficult to set records for fees from the next "blackbuster"! I don’t know: did I understand the essence of the question ... But, as it were, I myself have not yet fully formulated itfool...
        1. Volodin
          17 February 2014 15: 05
          +3
          Yuri, there are also certain concerns about our "cinematographers". After all, now money can stifle any (even the freshest and, as they say, socially useful) idea. But I just would like to wish the guys who are making this film success and help, as they say, on a voluntary basis. If the film comes out worthwhile, then the viewer will still appreciate it (no matter how good obscenities these "cinemasters" screamed there).
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 17 February 2014 21: 37
            +1
            Quote: Volodin
            If the film comes out worthwhile, then the viewer will still appreciate it (no matter how good obscenities these "cinemasters" screamed there).

            God forbid ... Though I am not a believer ...
            1. major071
              major071 17 February 2014 21: 45
              +7
              Hello Yur! Are you all fighting? The beginning is good, if only the ending did not disappoint. IMHO
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 17 February 2014 22: 29
                0
                Quote: major071
                Are you all fighting?

                Well, if only they hadn’t driven vodka from sawdust! We wouldn’t fight ...
        2. negeroi
          negeroi 20 February 2014 11: 20
          0
          Gy) Yes, there is a field, even a company, even whole countries invade. To capture the market such a miserable adventure in the form of mouse fuss, well oh how not enough. In short, it’s good that you didn’t formulate this stupidity. To milk this cow, you need money for another movie, an advertising one, and an appropriate company. Market invaders spend hundreds of millions, and do not post an article on the site.
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    2. apostrophe
      apostrophe 17 February 2014 15: 26
      +3
      Quote: negeroi
      And what about the national film?


      It is possible that it is being filmed with folk money, no? smile
  33. Leopold
    Leopold 17 February 2014 10: 53
    +6
    contributed 500 rubles. Perhaps help.
    1. UpgradeComplete
      UpgradeComplete 17 February 2014 13: 49
      -16%
      yeah) remove the homophilic film with yours and gentlemen god and jesuschrist help) amen)
  34. Black
    Black 17 February 2014 11: 07
    +3
    I hope that the attack of liberalism on people's memory, on the truth, begins to come to a natural end. Moreover, the false historians choked with their own vomit, they were lying so much that most of the people finally began to understand the true "value" of the ideas introduced by the West.
    "Rainy Shenderovichi" jumping out of their pants, they jumped out! And .. we saw all the "filling" without embellishment.
    We are waiting for worthy films, we are waiting for books, we are waiting for the analysis of the opened archives, we are waiting for the Truth.
  35. ng1941
    ng1941 17 February 2014 11: 21
    +5
    Firstly, the film will be released at the box office, the reason is simple for more than 10 thousand. people have already donated money for the film and more than a hundred thousand are interested in this project, not a single adequate distributor will pass by with this and even without advertising.
    The second film is about to folk money and can rightfully be called national.
    the third in the film will not be "one rifle for three", "tanks with sails", a love line, and fat nkvdshnikov, oh yes, and machine guns pushing especially careless people in the backs will not be verified either.
  36. Jedi
    Jedi 17 February 2014 11: 28
    -13%
    Quote: Slavapom
    Powerful episode !!! I wish the authors of the film also make the whole film, because if the whole film is shot like this episode, then the film will be BOMB, how much will the liberal stench be hard to even imagine. Bondarchuk-Mikhalkovskaya shobla on the snot will come out and drown in them

    and what is powerful there? if they sit in the dugout for 2 hours and tell each other about how they will beat the Germans, then no "bomb" will work. and by the way it is interesting - long ago Mikhalkov and Bondarchuk became snotty liberals?
  37. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 17 February 2014 11: 44
    +2
    <<< This option (making a film with public money without officials from cinematography) became a forced for the film ........ it makes it possible to shoot a movie that is "not from above", but which is from those who will be it the main viewer is an ordinary average Russian - a person who is tired of pouring tons of, excuse me, shit on Russian history and culture by various possessed authors from both the cinematic and literary communities. >>>
    Truly, we have already GOT all these our movie theaters ... the masters are Oscar-beggars, that the "sun-weary" movie master, that other "enlighteners" with their libesral film revelations, the purpose of which is to achieve recognition, praise from the Western philistine, the gamemocratic public, for which to please their "famous" ideas about Russia, about the Russians need, without tormenting remorse, just knead more dirt into the events of Russian history, the Second World War, no matter how heroic they are!
  38. Victor1
    Victor1 17 February 2014 11: 48
    +9
    The film is needed, especially since there were no patriotic films in our cinema for a long time.

    Here are some interview videos





    Veteran of the Battle of Stalingrad Stalingrad
  39. Clueless
    Clueless 17 February 2014 11: 55
    -4
    Quote: 31231
    For some reason, I believe in this film more. Just look at the partners of the crew. One of them is the Russian Historical Society.


    Which is a state structure, from which the article just deny :)
  40. chenia
    chenia 17 February 2014 11: 59
    +2
    Quote: Slavapom
    Powerful episode !!! I wish the authors of the film also make the whole film, because if the whole film is shot like this episode, then the film will be BOMB, how much will the liberal stench be hard to even imagine. Bondarchuk-Mikhalkovskaya shobla on the snot will come out and drown in them


    I agree powerful. A bit of efficiency is not enough (a link to the experience of past battles seems to be - we do it, as last time).

    We must remember that the team of tank destroyers is the color of 2 battalions, and not a platoon of 4 companies (just 4 companies turned out to be on the left flank of the division (the joint where the Germans struck with all their might - a breakthrough site).

    They were all already in the October battles (almost a month), had experience and successful (Klochkov was awarded the first BKZ). And the episode shows the internal confidence of the fighters and the lack of fuss.
    Moreover, if this episode is before the LAST battle, it means that they have already shot down 5 tanks in the morning.
  41. parus2nik
    parus2nik 17 February 2014 12: 01
    +1
    Good luck, what would the film turn out!
  42. Vadim2013
    Vadim2013 17 February 2014 12: 02
    0
    Confuses the name of the film. They were not 28. The main thing is that they did not run, but burned German tanks to the last possible opportunity.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 17 February 2014 19: 19
      +1
      Quote: Vadim2013
      Confuses the name of the film. There were not 28

      The scriptwriter and the director know better, this is not a documentary.
  43. moremansf
    moremansf 17 February 2014 12: 15
    +2
    "The goal of the author's group is to convey to the modern viewer what was happening on the approaches to Moscow back in 1941, how the soldiers in the snows near Moscow Volokolamsk direction opposed the tank armadas of the Nazis (2nd and 11th tank divisions of the enemy), then, which is a real feat in the name of the Fatherland. "
    I really want to believe that this will really be a film based on historical facts, and not a Hollywood fairy tale like "ala Bondarchuk (Stalingrad) !!! For a long time there were no real films about that time ...
  44. Arbatov
    Arbatov 17 February 2014 12: 18
    +4
    Everyone agrees that good new war films are needed. Let's help, we are not going to be poor, and the film crew suddenly has exactly what it takes.
  45. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 17 February 2014 12: 27
    +1
    Quote: Bronis
    Quote: Clever man
    Many beautiful words ... I would like to believe that it will be so.

    Somehow it will be. I didn't really believe in the project myself. But he took part in the support as much as he could. Well, I just got so tired of "semi-official insanity" like "Burnt by the Sun", "Stalingrad" and others. So it's a matter of principle. I don't know if they will, but I want to believe that there are still normal honest people ... I really want to believe ...

    I fully support it, only an anti-patriot could distort the history of Pavlov's house, as in "Stalingrad", and I hope that the Panfilovites will not have sex during the battle and a disagreement with history that is beneficial for the director!
  46. lexat7
    lexat7 17 February 2014 12: 37
    +1
    Followed the link, contributed. I hope the film will turn out worthy.
  47. rkkasa xnumx
    rkkasa xnumx 17 February 2014 12: 51
    +1
    On the one hand, making a patriotic film with money collected from people is good. Such a kind of popular response to the "Penal Battalion", "US" and the like. But on the other hand, since all this d ... mo was created with money allocated from the budget, then there is for our money. Therefore, I think first you need to understand and punish the creators of the sludge, then you look and there would be no need to collect a penny to create a normal film. Who and how will understand and punish is another question, but if Mikhalkov and his like get away with it, then one worthy film will continue to have several highs ...
  48. Watchman
    Watchman 17 February 2014 12: 54
    +2
    There are no better Soviet films about the war and hardly ever will be. Ozerov's "Liberation" is the clearest example of a real, patriotic cinema!
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 17 February 2014 19: 38
      +1
      "They fought for the Motherland" what's wrong?
  49. UpgradeComplete
    UpgradeComplete 17 February 2014 12: 54
    -19%
    another homophilic ... type 9 vomiting and dying? They don’t know how to shoot action films and action games in Russia, like in America! Well, they don’t know how !!! and attempts to shoot look so flawed) and some clowns also go to the cinemas for this dull homo ... Sadness ...
    1. UpgradeComplete
      UpgradeComplete 17 February 2014 14: 07
      -8
      Ahah)) n * o * minuses are negative) they can’t admit that they will go to the cinema to the homophile, and they will persistently advise everyone to go, although they themselves will outweigh while watching) ahah)
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        1. UpgradeComplete
          UpgradeComplete 17 February 2014 15: 23
          -8
          And why did the ophthalmologist have so long been checked? where even in one post the topic of homosexuals? Or are you one of these, just to spit out?) In your post twice mentions "rear-wheel drive" and one homosexual) Looks now which of us two of them) ahah)
          1. JonnyT
            JonnyT 17 February 2014 16: 16
            +3
            The typical answer of 3.14 is the switch and switchman ...... and the switchman is even worse
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              2. JonnyT
                JonnyT 17 February 2014 16: 48
                0
                close your smelly hollow ... finished wafer, switchman 3.14ras!
                What hooked you into clean water?
                1. UpgradeComplete
                  UpgradeComplete 17 February 2014 16: 52
                  -10%
                  Ahah)) formidable pogecanets) re-read the message history - you will see that you brought yourself to clean water) ahah) clown)
                  And advice: less to the head fuck - otherwise you’ll knock out the last brains)
                  1. JonnyT
                    JonnyT 17 February 2014 17: 20
                    0
                    oh miracle - the addict gives out tips!
                    Why don’t you calm down in any way? breaks?
                    Your care about my brains is very flattering to me, but it’s much more important for you to tidy up your ..... and you’ll eat an hour for treatment ......
                    Yes, and less with drugs, they destroy the central nervous system and lead to an inadequate perception of reality
                  2. JonnyT
                    JonnyT 17 February 2014 17: 29
                    +2
                    You write write ...... cheap troll ...... soon everything will be written on your forehead, and everyone will know that you are a corrupt whore ..... slam their own kents in the area
            2. UpgradeComplete
              UpgradeComplete 17 February 2014 16: 32
              -8
              Even forgive the pisces, a stupid pisces - so more correct)
              Indeed, according to your logic, if homosexuals are often mentioned, then a man of them. In your post, homosexuals were mentioned once, and rear-wheel drive twice. In my posts - the above has never been mentioned. So according to your logic - are you the rear-wheel drive) or the snap button) what is more convenient for you?
              1. JonnyT
                JonnyT 17 February 2014 16: 52
                +1
                Your level of intelligence is extremely low ..... I feel sorry for you!
                You yourself continue the topic .... draw your own conclusions!
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                  1. JonnyT
                    JonnyT 17 February 2014 17: 37
                    +2
                    nobody merged ... you just have nothing to refute your infamous essence ........ cheap insults the lot of cheap and limited ......
                    now everything is clear what g0vn0 in your head ...... gave himself .... horse-3.14dark!
    2. Luga
      Luga 17 February 2014 14: 16
      +1
      Quote: UpgradeComplete
      They don’t know how to shoot action films and action games in Russia, like in America!

      Is it necessary? Is it worth learning this, if I may say so, "art"? I don’t know how you, but for me, "The Living and the Dead" to compare with "Ryne", for example, or "The Chronicle of a Dive Bomber" with "Pearl Harbor" is the same as "The Moment of Truth" is compared with James Bond, and " War and Peace "with Batman comics.
      According
      Quote: UpgradeComplete
      dull homo
      Minus you.
      1. UpgradeComplete
        UpgradeComplete 17 February 2014 14: 33
        -11%
        Yes, I’m not saying that it’s worth learning, only one hundred percent will be shot in this style - it will come out like a night shame, like grandmas were killed normally - but it turned out a huet ...

        Quote: Luga
        Minus you

        I put it on a minus if that)
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 17 February 2014 19: 36
          +4
          Quote: UpgradeComplete
          I put it on a minus if that)

          The troll was incorrectly called not UpgradeComplete, but ImbecileComplete.
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 18 February 2014 00: 44
          +2
          Quote: UpgradeComplete
          I put it on a minus if that)

          You put your pants on, a cormorant is cheap.
    3. Black
      Black 17 February 2014 15: 16
      +1
      Quote: UpgradeComplete
      They don’t know how to shoot action films and action games in Russia, like in America!


      Do not need. Why do we need "militants"? Action games (if you like) look American.
      And films about our war are better.
      "They fought for the Motherland", "Hot Snow", "Aty-Baty ..", "Katya, Katenka", "They are going to battle .." ....
      What do you contrast these pictures? Their strength, spirit?
      Saving Private Ryan? Not near!
      1. UpgradeComplete
        UpgradeComplete 17 February 2014 15: 33
        -5
        Yes, you don’t get it all ??? I don’t even need our films to look like Ryan and so on .. Only our cinema has long slipped into flawed and inept copying of the Western style. 100% will be so this time. This is sad.
        Ryan didn’t look, because I don’t like films about war (feature). More like documentaries. And the art about the war, and even the American one - no, thanks.
        But the militants and horrors - with pleasure I will watch the American. Although stupid, but special effects - this is taken. Everything is better than ours: no special effects, no plot - but the face of Bondarchuk or Mikhalkov. Ugh.
    4. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 17 February 2014 19: 25
      0
      Quote: UpgradeComplete
      They don’t know how to shoot action films and action games in Russia, like in America!

      "Elusive Avengers", "White Sun of the Desert".
  50. Apologet insane
    Apologet insane 17 February 2014 12: 56
    -9
    The authors of the film, judging by the teaser, have clearly revised the new comic "300 Spartans" and are striving precisely for their aesthetics and pathos. And it's incredibly cool !!! If they make a movie about ours in the style of epic action on steroids, they will bring our cinema to a new level !!! Good luck guys !!!

    And I don't care how far from the truth he is. This is primarily an entertainment propaganda movie. Nobody snot about the fact that there are really three hundred of them in the "300 Spartans", without servants, slaves, a tub of shit for a toilet, and a traveling brothel.
    1. UpgradeComplete
      UpgradeComplete 17 February 2014 13: 15
      -9
      but it’s impossible even to remove something similar to the Western one in this vein ... No matter how many grandmas swell. Ours is just comedies, without a budget, but watch a hundred times - you'll smile every time)
      1. Apologet insane
        Apologet insane 17 February 2014 14: 06
        +1
        We have good movies about the war at the level of Western category B - the same "We are from the future" both parts, I watched with pleasure. If they do not overdo it with the "scatter-mother" pathos, but will do it about the warriors-heroes with an emphasis on battle scenes, then respect. I hate Stalin and the entire Bolshevik gang, but if they coolly portray this ideological moment, which played a significant role in the minds of our fighters, then I’m all for it. The main thing is that no one forcibly drove schoolchildren into cinemas to watch this movie, as on Mikhalkovskoe squalor.
    2. lucidlook
      lucidlook 17 February 2014 20: 18
      0
      As I understand it, you, an apologist for the truth, have of course already watched (or even more than once) all 18 episodes of The Great War. Yes?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8fUSSe4j80&list=PL1Aip1LakyIbMBeTqUrsVVHqjRjEAaP
      dh

      A little hint - the movie is not only documentary.
      1. Apologet insane
        Apologet insane 17 February 2014 20: 51
        -3
        I'm talking about feature films, not about the BBC style.