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"Military Code" will help strengthen the country's defense?

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Lawmakers also decided to contribute to the reform of the Russian army. One of them is a representative of the Communist Party faction in the State Duma, Vladimir Komoyedov, head of the Duma defense committee, former commander of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. Komoyedov proposed the creation of a “Military Code” in Russia, into which it would be necessary to reduce all the current federal laws. According to the deputy, it will allow better to regulate security issues. At the suggestion of Vladimir Komoyedov, the “Military Code” should include, among other things, such Federal Laws as “On conscription and military service”, “On martial law”, “On state of emergency”, “On defense”, “On status of military men”, "On mobilization training and mobilization." This code should be a kind of reference book for commanders of various types and types of troops.


"Military Code" will help strengthen the country's defense?


Representatives of some other Duma factions supported the initiative of Vladimir Komoyedov. One of them was the deputy chairman of the defense committee, Franz Klintsevich. He expressed his views on this matter in an interview with Vzglyad. Klintsevich noted that the benefits of the idea cannot be ruled out, but he would not call his new documents and laws the “Military Code”, since for its implementation it is not at all necessary to follow the path of implementing the new draft law.

Franz Klintsevich:
... just be a book that commanders will have. And in it all their rights, duties will be painted. This will facilitate the work of commanders and superiors. The creation of such a code is a purely technical work that does not require the participation of the State Duma. I can also do this work by instructing assistants to summarize all the bills that exist, put them in one brochure, and then ask the sponsors to release it as charity and distribute it to the commanders of the units.


It cannot be ruled out that the fragmentation of various federal laws, their presence in different print publications, creates certain problems for commanders. To move from consideration of one law to consideration of another, you need to get up from the table, raise your hand to the book (documentation) shelf and take out another edition from there ... And if you take out something else, and the commander will understand it only when he sits down again at his table and open the book (folder) - then you need to get up again (and in fact the build of some commanders do not always allow it to be done quickly and painlessly) and again to the regiments. Of course, the problem for ensuring the security of Russia at this stage is serious ... And then the deputies, of course, must take all the trouble to help the commanders to collect the documentation base and, most importantly, without fail, “ask the sponsors” to publish and distribute to the high ranks "(Or whatever it will be called there) ...

Only deputies who propose to put together the Federal Law and other documents relating to the functioning of the Russian army in the Code, as well as deputies who support this initiative in one way or another, for some reason do not take into account one fact: everyone respecting himself, his subordinates and Russian legislation servicemen with large (and not only large) stars on their shoulder straps have already guessed to reduce all documents of great importance for their work (and, accordingly, to ensure the security of the country), federal laws s articles of the Constitution together. We guessed that it is remarkable, without any initiatives “from above” - they just took brochures, books, newspapers, etc., let the necessary materials through copy machines and put everything in a folder-folder - that’s all the work ... information from the Federal Law - took the folder, flipped through, found what was needed - studied. I am personally acquainted with several such officers. One of them, responding to a request to describe the initiative of the deputies, expressed, to put it mildly, bewilderment:

I did not think that a photocopy of a couple of dozen documents is a matter worth discussing in the State Duma and wasting time on it. If someone from the commanding staff at different levels did not have time to collect all the necessary documents for work, then this can be done in a maximum of a couple of hours. Technique allows. Publications of laws on the Internet are. In the end, it is easier to simply “pull down” the list according to which each person in the corresponding command post can compile a folder. All the most important things for everyday work are in the statutes.


In fact, it is somewhat strange that the deputy initiative comes from a person who himself was on a high military for a long time (naval) positions. It turns out that either Komoyedov’s subordination was entirely lazy and inert commanders who needed to bring everything on a silver platter (in good binding), or Vladimir Petrovich simply goes too far, really, devoting legislative time, to put it mildly, not the most relevant at the moment things.

Of course, the creation of the “Military Code” will not hurt anyone, but ... It is a matter of time, in financing the preparation, publication, distribution. If you also attract philanthropists here, then in general a strange picture may turn out. Patrons of ours with a high degree of probability will require to write on the brochure that it was they who financed everything. And it will turn out a certain “Military Code with the financial support of the general director of OOO Main Patron and Co.”

In the end, after the possible adoption of the “Military Code”, doctors, teachers, musicians, builders may be offended and say: why do we not have our own code? Deputy groups will gather again and they will start discussing how to put together documents on the work of teachers and medical personnel. And it does not matter that many (like those mentioned officers) themselves have long guessed systematized documentation important for their work.

Interestingly, the initiative to create a “Military Code” does not come from the Ministry of Defense, but from lawmakers. Does this mean that the Ministry of Defense does not yet see a particular need for another pile of documentation pyramid, or in the main military department they have not yet had time to evaluate the initiative ...
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  1. Boris55
    Boris55 17 February 2014 08: 43
    +2
    Quote: Volodin Alexey
    ... there were completely lazy and inert commanders who needed to bring everything on a platter ...

    Ignorance of the law is not an excuse
    Although I am not a supporter of the Communist Party, I approve of this initiative. While a person does not know something, he does not seem to exist. "Dark" people are easier to manipulate. Is the author afraid that lawyers will be left without work?
    Maybe enough to live by the concepts (especially since they each have their own)?
    1. Asgard
      Asgard 17 February 2014 10: 12
      +17
      Such a book already exists, called - the CHARTER.
      The deputies had to serve in the Army, and not servilely serve.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 17 February 2014 10: 57
        +1
        Quote: Asgard
        Such a book already exists, called - the CHARTER.

        The charter governs army life. With her, everything is more or less clear - charter in each barracks and not just one copy of this and the order in the army is a cut above that of a civilian.
        Laws for what are adopted and most importantly for whom? If for us, then we are obliged to know them, and if for them, then we are all the more obliged to know.
        Example:
        Dates hiding knowledge of the due payments and benefits receive 10% of their salary from "saved funds".
        Does it suit you? Me - no!
        1. wasilyek
          wasilyek 17 February 2014 11: 37
          +3
          And if they put everything into one book, will it become more difficult for them to hide?
          Who wants to know what and how much is due to him, he is interested in and demands.
          It’s not a matter of the number of "books", but of the unwillingness of people to know and defend their rights.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 17 February 2014 11: 48
            0
            Quote: wasilyek
            Who wants to know what and how much is due to him, he is interested in and demands.

            So the date was straightforward and told you everything, but you were going to deprive him of his income (10%) laughing
            You are looking for when you know what to look for, and if you do not know, then you are not looking.

            Quote: wasilyek
            and in the reluctance of people themselves to know and assert their rights.

            And how do they know about them?
          2. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 17 February 2014 19: 00
            +3
            And if they put everything in one book,


            But Vladimir Komoedov is right, he only expressed his wish in a non-legal language. This collection of laws should not be a purely technical act of collecting military laws into one book.
            In legal science, there is such a thing CODIFICATION.
            Codification of legislation - it is a form of radical processing of existing normative acts in a certain sphere of relations, a way of qualitatively streamlining legislation, ensuring its coherence and compactness, as well as clearing the normative array, exempting from outdated, not justified norms.
            In the process of codification, the compiler seeks to unify and systematize the valid norms that have justified themselves, as well as to revise their content, state regulatory requirements harmoniously and internally, to ensure maximum regulation of the relevant sphere of relations.
            Codification is aimed at critically rethinking existing norms, eliminating contradictions and inconsistencies between them, eliminating repetitions, outdated provisions, gaps, and duplication of norms.

            The fact that military law has the right to be codified into the MILITARY CODE without a doubt, like any legislation in a particular field of activity.
            Being a generalization of the current legal regulation, the codification is at the same time aimed at establishing new norms that reflect the urgent needs of public practice, filling up the gaps in legal regulation, and replacing failed, outdated legal requirements with new ones.
            The adoption of the Military Code will not only make it easier for military leaders to learn military law, but will also allow legislators to more successfully prevent negative phenomena in the Army, such as Serdyukovism, self-will in the form of "what I want, I turn it over", "activity" of civil defense ministers on illegal "reform "The army, conducting senseless, absurd experiments, like" scientific companies "and the like nonsense.
            And it’s easier to work when everything is put together in one legislative act, for everyone: the military, lawyers, lawmakers to improve military law, as life goes on, something dies, something is reborn and requires a change in military law.
        2. Fin
          Fin 17 February 2014 13: 56
          +3
          Quote: Boris55
          Dates hiding knowledge of the due payments and benefits receive 10% of their salary from "saved funds".
          Does it suit you? Me - no!

          I killed it. Learn guidance documents they are not secret. And if Muscovite does not allow you to master basic things, then contact the VP or lawyers. And heh .. I have nothing to write.
          And Cho 10% and not 15-20? Share "verified" information, preferably a link laughing
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 17 February 2014 16: 54
            0
            Quote: Fin
            And Cho 10% and not 15-20? Share "verified" information, preferably a link

            I will answer your quote:
            Learn guidance documents they are not secret. And if Muscovite does not allow you to master basic things, then contact the VP or lawyers.
            hi

            PS
            That such questions would not arise and such a collection is needed.
    2. wasilyek
      wasilyek 17 February 2014 11: 35
      +2
      And if they put everything into one document, will many people read it?
      He who wants to know and defend his rights, he himself, by all sources, studies.
      But the attempt itself is just a profanity: it turns out because of what the military reform is stalled !!!
      Well, let’s publish one thick book instead of five or six thin ones, and everything will work out.
    3. rubin6286
      rubin6286 17 February 2014 12: 29
      +1
      Commander! Love to ride, love to carry and sled!
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 17 February 2014 19: 58
      0
      Stupid initiative! The Armed Forces must live according to the Charter first of all. Or is it in opposition to the Civil Code? It's funny! And how is this possible? To turn the inner content of the army and navy service before the whole world? It will be a good present for our enemies. We have a Defense Law and a military doctrine. Or will we populate the army with crowds of lawyers, managers and soldiers' mothers? This is not even the point. And the fact is that any codification of sectoral legislation completely "highlights" the entire structure of its activities, and makes it possible to fight it by the same legislation. In addition, codification inevitably leads to references, such as orders for the RF Ministry of Defense and other acts not for everyone. In our case, the issue of defensive capability is the main issue.
  2. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 17 February 2014 08: 50
    +2
    Guys, why did gasoline go up again?
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    2. Boris55
      Boris55 17 February 2014 09: 02
      +5
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      Guys, why did gasoline go up again?

      So sowing soon!
      In secret, this is a very complex scheme for enriching individuals at the expense of everyone.
      First, prices rise, then they are extinguished by state subsidies, that is, at our expense.
      1. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 17 February 2014 10: 49
        0
        Boris55
        Well, it’s not a special fan of the Communists, you say the sowing campaign .. Separate personalities .. no, dear, the SYSTEM is like that.
        So continue to support, LDPRSRPRAVSILPROSRALIPOLYMERS, together with EP, and there will be complete happiness.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 17 February 2014 11: 05
          -2
          Quote: vladkavkaz
          ... so keep supporting ...

          I am against any party because this is the madness of many, for the welfare of the individual. Regarding the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, I have never seen Siyu banging his bald head on a humpbacked bridge for the happiness of the people, as well as other "leaders" ...
          But in the swamp area, the Communists were noticed ...
          PS
          I am a supporter of BER
      2. rubin6286
        rubin6286 17 February 2014 12: 30
        +1
        They say condoms will rise in price!
    3. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      +3
      Gasoline prices increased due to rising gasoline prices required to transport it. wassat
  3. demotivator
    demotivator 17 February 2014 08: 54
    +3
    Article "plus", the idea of ​​lawmakers - "minus".
    after the possible adoption of the Military Code, doctors, teachers, musicians, builders may be offended and say: why do we not have our own code? Again, deputy groups will gather that will begin to discuss how to put together documents on the work of pedagogical or medical personnel.

    That's for sure, when there is nothing to do, they invent a job for themselves. You won’t get bored with our deputies.
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    2. Hon
      Hon 17 February 2014 10: 22
      0
      And builders have a code
    3. rubin6286
      rubin6286 17 February 2014 12: 33
      +1
      Civil problems are no less, but they work. and the military serve. Citizens turn to deputies with questions, they initiate their discussion in the State Duma. instead of inventing work. A child does not cry - his mother does not understand!
  4. ZU-23
    ZU-23 17 February 2014 09: 06
    +4
    Well, a good Military Code and another article on corruption as a state. treason
    1. rubin6286
      rubin6286 17 February 2014 12: 34
      0
      Let the Code be what the army specifically needs.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 17 February 2014 14: 37
        0
        Anyway, the army can still say a whole element with its own structure, with its own laws, so it needs to be tougher there, and this will not hinder the normal patriotic military man and will not bring discomfort.
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  5. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 17 February 2014 09: 14
    +7
    a good job with the decutaks ... 450 thousand and complete loafers ... parasites ...
    1. rubin6286
      rubin6286 17 February 2014 12: 35
      -4
      Vania! Why are you writing such a ...
  6. Vl690006
    Vl690006 17 February 2014 09: 49
    +3
    They have nothing to do. At one time, the Code of Inland Water Transport (HWC) was published. So, too, there were enough mistakes, which then additionally wrote changes:
    1. Foreign vessels are allowed to sail along the Inland Waterways (GDP) of the Russian Federation. But in another paragraph it was written that the captain, mechanic and radio operator should be a citizen of the Russian Federation.
    2. In KVVT the electrician belonged to the rank and file, and in the charter of the IWT, to the command staff.
    Etc. We, however, were forced to learn and pass this examination by the KVVT for a fee. When I said on the exam about the many inconsistencies of the new HEC with other previously published laws and documents, they said that well done, well studied and get out of here.
    Better to let them go to the former collective and state farms in the spring and summer in our Kamaz trucks (they are cooler than jeeps, because the Paris-Dakar all-terrain vehicles constantly win) and help raise agriculture. Previously, under the USSR, Moscow drivers constantly came to harvest the harvest.
  7. Normman
    Normman 17 February 2014 09: 52
    +1
    In our country, and not only in our country, sometimes one law contradicts another. Here a whole bunch of problems arises. Again, a soldier needs to keep a bunch of everything under control, one norm there is another. And the creation of a code will allow us to do work instead of casuistry, clearly knowing our rights and obligations.
  8. Sharingan
    Sharingan 17 February 2014 10: 10
    +4
    Reduce to the code, do not reduce it - one trait Serdyukov with a harem free.
    1. rubin6286
      rubin6286 17 February 2014 12: 37
      +2
      Look around! Around you Serdyukov on Serdyukov and Serdyukov drives. Whichever industry you take.
  9. Leshka
    Leshka 17 February 2014 10: 21
    +5
    in principle, the idea is not bad
  10. dmb
    dmb 17 February 2014 10: 45
    +2
    He has nothing to do with the cat .... I think that if Komoyedov and Klintsevich did this, then it would be much more profitable for the country's budget.
  11. Fin
    Fin 17 February 2014 10: 52
    +1
    They propose to put together the Federal Law and other documents relating to the functioning of the Russian army in the Code,

    It is the task of the RF Ministry of Defense to publish in one book for commanders all the basic laws relating to military service. And even better with comments and judicial practice as the Labor Code of the Russian Federation.
  12. Zubr
    Zubr 17 February 2014 11: 32
    +2
    For these purposes, there are charters, combat, internal, guard duty, where everything is painted in detail.
    But this generalization will not lead to anything good. And what is the code for? When is the oath? In fact, you swore an oath of allegiance to the people and the fatherland. Why litter the brains of a soldier once again!
    Basic laws, as you go into the unit all near the nightstand. Take, read, bison, understand and execute.

    They have nowhere to put money?
  13. moremansf
    moremansf 17 February 2014 11: 54
    +2
    This is not about the Charters, they should be known by everyone, but about the rights of servicemen as citizens of the Russian Federation, financial security, housing rights, pensions, etc.
  14. rubin6286
    rubin6286 17 February 2014 12: 27
    0
    To write such articles, you yourself need to serve in the army, to know the problems, and not to use the opinion in the preparation of the material
    "Several self-respecting, subordinate and Russian legislation officers with big stars on uniform."
    Codification and systematization of legislation is a mandatory phenomenon in any field of activity. including and in military service. It is carried out without the participation of legislative bodies, but, as soon as deputies of the State Duma took care of this in accordance with Article 104 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, this is not a technical aspect, i.e. the form in which the codification will be implemented (a book or a brochure in which all the rights and obligations of the commanders will be painted, a photocopy of a couple of dozens of documents, a folder with a list of documents for the corresponding command post, etc., etc.). The Military Code, if adopted, will undoubtedly include the normative acts listed by Deputy V. Komoyedov, including the General Military Charter, but the deputy initiative coming from a person who has been in a high military position for a long time shows that a number of aspects of military service Currently, the legislation is insufficiently regulated or not regulated at all or is in conflict with the requirements of federal and local regulations. Officers today serve on a contract basis and this serves as the basis for all kinds of “liberties” and abuses, both on the part of subordinates and chiefs of all degrees. The practice of appeals to the military court and the military prosecutor’s bodies speaks about this.
  15. rekrut
    rekrut 17 February 2014 13: 04
    0
    They dream of robot soldiers, they don't need to be fed, they don't have to pay, and they don't ask "bad" questions. If doctors and teachers take offense, then the flag is in their hands and let them roam for five years to those places where ordinary mortal officers have to serve ...
  16. muhomor
    muhomor 17 February 2014 13: 33
    +4
    And the guardhouse must be returned to the army. The commander in his work with the personnel should have not only measures of persuasion but also coercion.
  17. Zubr
    Zubr 17 February 2014 14: 11
    +2
    Quote: moremansf
    This is not about the Charters, they should be known by everyone, but about the rights of servicemen as citizens of the Russian Federation, financial security, housing rights, pensions, etc.


    But for these purposes there are fathers commanders, political workers who must be responsible for the exercise of the rights of soldiers and officers. If now the soldier and staff officer begins to be distracted by all this paperwork, there will be no time to serve him and engage in combat training. Personnel need to be selected decent and educated. And the headquarters of divisions and districts tighten control over their implementation. That’s the whole secret.
    Comrade officers, for God's sake excuse my harshness.
    1. old rocket man
      old rocket man 17 February 2014 17: 00
      0
      Quote: Zubr
      Personnel need to be selected decent and educated. And the headquarters of divisions and districts tighten control over their implementation. That’s the whole secret.


      No one has yet come up with a machine that allows you to look into the human brain. As they say, "someone else's soul of darkness."
      Everyone who has served knows that there are "fathers-commanders", and there are also "pri @ uki" who do not care about everything except their personal careers. That is why the soldiers, sergeants and officers of the Code should protect from their arbitrariness, and not be "desktop cheat sheet" hi
  18. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 17 February 2014 14: 36
    0
    Klintsevich, Franz Adamovich
    The ancestors are hereditary Belarusian and Polish peasants. Parents: Adam Mikhailovich (born 1926) and Yadviga Bronislavovna (born 1929) - peasants.
    Before joining the military service, in 1974-1975, he worked as a teacher of drawing, labor and physical education at the Krevantsevsky rural eight-year school.
    In 1975 — 1997 he was in active military service in the ranks of the Armed Forces of the USSR and the Russian Federation. He served in the Airborne Forces.
    In 1986, he graduated from courses of political political officers in foreign languages ​​of the USSR Ministry of Defense.
    In 1986-1988, he served in the 345-th separate parachute-airborne regiment of the 40-th Army in Afghanistan, participated in hostilities; Colonel Reserve.
    In 1991 year - graduated from the Military-Political Academy. V.I. Lenin.
    In 1990 — 1995 years - Deputy Chairman, and since 1995 years - Chairman of the Board of the Russian Union of Veterans of Afghanistan.
    In 2004, he graduated with honors from the faculty of retraining and advanced training of the Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
    Candidate of psychological sciences. Thesis: "Personality-psychological characteristics of Russians with low and high levels of income."
    He speaks foreign languages: Dari, Belarusian, Polish and German.
  19. Stinger
    Stinger 17 February 2014 14: 44
    +3
    A code is needed, but not for such nonsense as suggested. Nowhere is it written how to organize the production of military products in private enterprises in wartime, on what conditions, if necessary, an enterprise is withdrawn for defense needs, due to which private enterprises contain mobilities, etc. In general, issues of ownership and the interaction of business owners with the state in wartime are not regulated. These issues should be spelled out either in a separate section of the civil code, or separately. Otherwise, the liberals will decide that it is cheaper to surrender to the enemy than to fight.
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 17 February 2014 16: 25
      0
      I agree with you.
      And then God forbid war, it will turn out like in Krylov’s fable:
      ... a swan bursting into the clouds
      Cancer backs up
      A pike pulls into the water ...
      And nothing has changed.
      In addition to mobilizing industry, this also seriously affects mobilizing the population.
  20. old rocket man
    old rocket man 17 February 2014 16: 49
    +1
    The article put a plus, because Komoedov's idea is no, but the Military Code is needed, but not in the form of a reference book, but in the form of a code like a procedural code, which will regulate the procedure for applying articles of the statutes, especially the disciplinary one, it is necessary to introduce TRIBUNALS in each garrison, which, according to the views of the commanders, they will resolve the issues of imposing the most stringent penalties in order to exclude bias, reinsurance and other "personal factors." members of the tribunal and defense counsel from a category equal to the accused, but not from the same part with him, the acquittal decisions of the tribunal should not be subject to revision.
    Something like this, in short hi
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 17 February 2014 20: 06
      0
      Dear, codes of procedure are for inquiry, investigation and trial. There are also arbitration courts. The military has a court of officer honor. So, the proposal of the deputy is directed to the field of substantive rather than procedural law.
  21. bubla5
    bubla5 17 February 2014 19: 56
    +1
    Then it is necessary to ascribe for theft, as well as for public betrayal of treason, anathema everywhere in the media for the whole country, and not like house arrest now, and quietly releasing all the guilt and turning into victims, and the one who patronized
  22. Psyjoker
    Psyjoker 18 February 2014 01: 36
    0
    "Does this mean that the Ministry of Defense does not yet see a special need?"

    Rather, they are now not up to such issues. There are more important issues.
  23. Sour
    Sour 18 February 2014 06: 27
    0
    Since 1951, the United States has been operating the "Unified Code of Military Justice" (ECVJ).
    I am not an expert in the field of military jurisprudence, so I will refrain from commenting on the need for such a document.
    The American EKVYu is not a charter like a Russian, it is a more voluminous document. There are also articles providing for criminal and property (and not just disciplinary) liability of military personnel, which is not closely related in our charters. But there are purely disciplinary sanctions.
    As I understand it, Komoyedov does not offer such a document, he just wants to create a directory where all the existing laws on the army and defense are combined. If the Ministry of Defense wants to have such a directory in the troops, then it can easily order it. A decision at the Goduma level is not needed here. Komoyedov has nothing to do, or he lobbies the interests of book publishers.