Military Review

Afgan

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The film by Andrei Kondrashov


25 years ago, in February 1989, the Soviet Union withdrew troops from Afghanistan. The last war of a huge and still united country ended. What was it - failure or victory? Who all this time remained in the shadow of military battles? How did the GRU and the CIA collide in Afghanistan? Who has profited from this war?

In the film by Andrei Kondrashov, secrets are first revealed to those whose duty it was to remain silent. Illegals of the Main Intelligence Directorate, scouts of the Afghan special services XAD, leaders of the mujahideen, as well as the chief resident of the CIA, who was responsible for all the sabotage in that war. It was he who destroyed Soviet rule aviation in the Afghan sky: put stingers to dushmans. But why did the CIA slip so suddenly?

Viewers will find out the unknown details of the famous assault on the Palace of Amin. What role did the Soviet Muslim battalion play in eliminating the president of Afghanistan? Who are these heroes who went to the Palace under a barrage of fire without body armor? Why are Afghans still shocked by the cunning and cunning of these "Russians"?

For many years, our combatants did not know why the Mujahideen were already aware of the time and directions of large-scale Soviet attacks. It turns out that they had informants in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and even in the Central Committee of the CPSU. The current successor to Ahmad Shah Massoud for the first time names all the traitors in Moscow by name, who have killed hundreds of our soldiers in Afghanistan.

The standoff at the Salang Pass. We will see how our combatant, wanting to capture the most experienced dushman, hit the female half of the Afghan home. What happened then and why this commander of the field commanders now treat pilaf? Incredible encounter with the sworn enemies of 30 years later.

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  1. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 15 February 2014 06: 51
    +28
    Well worthy of heroism
    Fathers and grandfathers that led
    Fighting desperately against fascism
    What could win then
    You didn’t run away from the war
    Having fulfilled his duty to the end.
    They put themselves under the bullets
    Their brave hearts.

    You are worthy of admiration.
    Our respect to you.
    May your life be calm
    And trouble will not touch you!

    Bow to you, heroes of Afghanistan,
    Earth to you, family, bow!
    May everyone heal your wounds
    Let the sick moan subside.
    Nobody will forget your feat
    Among the holidays and rumors.
    Beloved, glorious people,
    May you be happy!
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 15 February 2014 09: 41
      +21
      I recommend the film. Yesterday I looked in one breath. Impressed, I found time to watch "Kandahar" - a bomb!
      1. kris
        kris 15 February 2014 11: 35
        +14

        LET'S JUST SILENT!
        1. arane
          arane 15 February 2014 13: 12
          +14
          I looked. Thanks! Very interesting! The ending was just shocking. He knew that Shevarnadze radish, but so ....
        2. bandabas
          bandabas 16 February 2014 20: 33
          0
          Did not watch. But I'll see.
      2. moremansf
        moremansf 15 February 2014 11: 53
        +3
        The film is really interesting, there are a lot of facts about which they were silent for a long time ... I recommend watching it, you won’t regret it !!!
      3. DEMENTIY
        DEMENTIY 15 February 2014 12: 45
        +10
        Quote: SHILO
        I recommend the film.


        Hi Kostyan! drinks I looked! Thorough video. good
        I especially liked the phrase of the Mujahideen that the "shuravi" fought with us, and the Americans stupidly kill from planes and unmanned vehicles.

        Below the video - yes, not a war, but a computer game. recourse

        1. SHILO
          SHILO 15 February 2014 13: 17
          +2
          Great. hi Funny video good - save it.
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            1. SHILO
              SHILO 15 February 2014 16: 04
              +7
              Quote: abdrah
              well, then you have to add to your "collection" of videos


              "Thank you" buddy! fool Maybe dumb, I put it. recourse But ... having a hunting ticket and regularly going out into the nature with friends - hunters - I shoot exclusively at jars, and my wife "wets" live carps, which I love to cook. So leave this perversion to yourself - n. Fools. belay
              1. abdrah
                abdrah 16 February 2014 00: 14
                -2
                SHILO - "So leave this perversion to yourself - n. Fools."

                "Maybe weird, I put it."
                - No, the essence of your imaginations and desires just crawled out.

                "But ... having a hunting ticket and regularly going out into the countryside with friends - hunters, I shoot exclusively at cans, and my wife" wets "live carps, which I love to cook.
                - about the ticket, not the fact that you are not cunning about its presence, as well as about the wife and carps. But you already covered your pathological hobby, and now you come up with wives, carps and hunting tickets.
                Well, about "p.idurok" - I do not care about the barking of a pervert who collects murders of people in a collection.

                PS I didn’t want to offend the feelings of other people on the forum, but what is the difference between killing people from a helicopter and killing cattle in a slaughterhouse, the difference is only in the black and white picture ???
                1. SHILO
                  SHILO 16 February 2014 00: 32
                  0
                  Quote: abdrah
                  PS I didn’t want to offend the feelings of other people on the forum, but what is the difference between killing people from a helicopter and killing cattle in a slaughterhouse, the difference is only in the black and white picture ???


                  Do not have a Julie dinner. Ask any moderator to clean the vyser for you. Believe me - when you look at the video they won’t refuse.
                  1. abdrah
                    abdrah 16 February 2014 01: 03
                    -3
                    SHILO "Don't be uzhara. Ask any modder to remove the viper after you. Believe me, when they watch the video, they won't refuse."

                    On the thief and the hat burns, Pichuzhkin. You are ours. How does the video that you liked differ from the fact that I threw it into your collection? The same murder, although some people like to watch others take their lives.
                    Hunting ticket, he-he-he., Not a desire to descend to Your level, but I will give advice - take a loan and buy a webcam and then make a kill against the wall online, it will really be a pearl of Your "collection".
                    1. SHILO
                      SHILO 16 February 2014 01: 17
                      +2
                      Oh and said, said that. Sorry! Immediately I did not understand what the bazaar woman was "scribbling" under the nickname abdrah.
                      P.C. But clean up your vomit all the same.
                      1. major1976
                        major1976 16 February 2014 19: 16
                        +1
                        Konstantin do not pay attention to the opponent who has never held a firearm in his hands! He is flawed! Just a male person with signs of a man!
                      2. SHILO
                        SHILO 16 February 2014 20: 17
                        0
                        Quote: major1976
                        Konstantin do not pay attention


                        Yes, it’s just not nice to see how a bucket of their own slops is turned over in VO, and then with a smart look they turn their nose and squeamishly wipe their hands - I'm not me and I'm not mine.
                      3. DEMENTIY
                        DEMENTIY 16 February 2014 22: 19
                        0
                        Quite! It was very interesting to watch your brawl. I especially liked this:

                        not a desire to go down to your level, but I will give advice - take a loan and buy a webcam and then make a kill against the wall online, it will really be the pearl of your "collection".

                        Reservation well, just according to Freud! laughing good
    2. Fedman
      Fedman 15 February 2014 20: 40
      +1
      Quote: DEMENTIY
      I especially liked the phrase of the Mujahideen that the "shuravi" fought with us, and the Americans stupidly kill from planes and unmanned vehicles.

      What's good? The Americans take care of the soldiers and shoot the enemy from afar. You can't fight them. And it turns out to get to ours was easier and they praise the "shuravi" for it. It's just silly to be proud of it
      1. DEMENTIY
        DEMENTIY 15 February 2014 21: 11
        +5
        Quote: Fedman
        shoot the enemy from afar.



        I’m a video my young friend just for people like you set.
        Now take the time - answer, and what are the gentlemen in "Apache" proud of?
        What about fat drones?

        "It's just stupid to be proud of it"

        And who wrote about pride?
        However, about courage, courage, valor (if such words are familiar). Yes! It was not written. But implied.
        1. Fedman
          Fedman 15 February 2014 23: 46
          0
          I spoke about the country, not about the soldiers. Naturally, they don’t choose what to fight for.
          But imagine, one general put a soldier in a chair and gave a joystick from a drone, and another gave a machine gun and sent it to ride through the mountains. Which of them did the right thing? Militants naturally like soldiers with machine guns more; it’s easier to kill him.
          1. DEMENTIY
            DEMENTIY 16 February 2014 00: 49
            +1
            Quote: Fedman
            one general put the soldier in a chair and gave the joystick from the drone, while the other gave a machine gun and sent him to ride through the mountains. Which of them did the right thing?


            Casuistry is my young friend, casuistry. With this approach, you will very soon agree that the USSR, which lost 27 million in the Great Patriotic War (unlike Germany’s 10 million), is wrong! And we have nothing to be proud of.
            However, a certain category of citizens does just that.
            1. Fedman
              Fedman 16 February 2014 01: 48
              +1
              No need to ascribe to me too much
          2. major1976
            major1976 16 February 2014 19: 26
            +1
            Dear you are right in part! A soldier is fighting with the weapon that the state gives him! Repeatedly a Russian soldier proved to the whole world that the most perfect weapon does not guarantee victory! Maybe the leaders of the state got used to this topic? I understood your idea and share it completely! It is necessary to arm Russian soldiers the most modern weapons! But this is a question for leadership and not for the soldier!
    3. clidon
      clidon 16 February 2014 10: 16
      0
      It is a pity that we did not have this in Afghanistan. More guys would return home, and it would be quite possible to talk nostalgically "from the other side" that there is nobody.
      1. safon
        safon 16 February 2014 12: 53
        +2
        Quote: clidon
        It is a pity that we did not have this in Afghanistan. More guys would return home, and it would be quite possible to talk nostalgically "from the other side" that there is nobody.


        Nobody had it! Compare then and now is not correct! Compare Afghanistan and Vietnam. And tell me which of the Vietnamese respectfully spoke of the Yankees? That's it!
        1. clidon
          clidon 16 February 2014 18: 53
          +1
          Apache since 1984 in service. If we compare Afghanistan and Vietnam, it is clear that Vietnam was hotter, the losses there are higher, the passions are greater.
          But I would love to hear how the spirits curse our soldiers, knowing that more of our guys have returned. Thanks to this "dishonest" technique ...
          1. major1976
            major1976 16 February 2014 19: 31
            0
            Different countries! Afghanistan is a steppe-desert-mountains and a little green! Vietnam is solid green! I am sure of 100% Apache loss in Vietnam would exceed all reasonable limits!
            1. clidon
              clidon 16 February 2014 20: 34
              0
              In Vietnam, they generally fought on the Cobras and the Iroquois. Which was far from Apache of the 80s.
              However, I’m saying that such technologies in Afghanistan would be very useful for us. Exactly as for the local civilian population.
          2. bandabas
            bandabas 16 February 2014 20: 40
            +1
            Why compare. Both Afghanistan and Vietnam. and Chechnya. and Angola ... You can list endlessly. The most filthy civil war. When the father went to his son, and brother to brother.
    4. Normal ok
      Normal ok 1 November 2014 20: 52
      0
      But no one would mind such drones at the Donetsk airport.
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  2. Alex 241
    Alex 241 15 February 2014 13: 16
    +4
    Quote: SHILO
    see and "Kandahar
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 15 February 2014 13: 32
      +1
      Yes! Cool moment. good yes
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 15 February 2014 12: 53
    +14
    The film is good, I learned a lot about what kind of bbl ld.do.k. this Shevarnadze, killed 2000 Afghans in retreat, and then gave a leaflet to a secret meeting to the Americans. How did the pilots agree to fulfill the order ?!
    But Dudaev even then thought of the war in Chechnya and treacherously informed the enemies, probably considered them co-religionists, unlike the commanders of the Muslim battalion, glory to the latter and to all who heroically fulfilled the duty in Afghanistan.
    I always knew that Russians always have one dangerous enemy - traitors. The rest will always win.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 15 February 2014 20: 31
      +7
      Kerimbaev Boris Tukenovich - the first commander of the Muslim battalion, commanded for 3 years. Ahmad Shah Masoud gave $ 1 million for his head. Kazakh, lives near Alma-Ata and now writes a book of memoirs about those events. Look forward to .
      The movie is cool. hi
      1. Turkestan
        Turkestan 16 February 2014 12: 00
        +2
        [i] Kerimbaev Boris Tukenovich - the first commander of the Muslim battalion.

        Dear, when you give information, let's get it complete.
        The detachment under the command of Major Khabib Khalbaev, an ethnic Uzbek (1st “Muslim battalion”) was transported by units in the first decade of December 1979, but after a decision of the Central Committee of the CPSU was assembled on December 13 in Bagrama. Since July 1979, there was a combat security battalion of an air base (air base) - 345 infantry fighting units (previously 111 infantry fighting units 105 airborne). On December 14, another of the 345th OPD battalions arrived in Bagram to support the air base. Nobody knew their tasks and had no plans for the performance [source not specified 1726 days].
        On the morning of December 20, a convoy of 154 oSpN advanced to Kabul almost directly to the government residence. In total, about 540 military personnel took part. Khalbaev was ordered to cover the assault on Amin’s palace and stop any armed groups trying to attack the territory of the residence. The main tasks - capture and liquidation - were assigned to 60 servicemen of the special groups “Thunder” and “Zenith”.
        After the capture of Amin’s palace on December 27, 1979, the detachment was returned to the USSR “in connection with the replenishment”. In Kabul, only 459 Special Forces remained subordinate to the 40th Army.
        The 2nd “Muslim battalion” (177 ooSpN) under the command of Major Kerimbaev is known for participating in the history of the Afghan war as the only intelligence unit of the Special Forces of the GRU that was included in 1984 in the 15th Special Forces in Jalalabad.
        u.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CC%F3%F1%F3%EB%FC%EC%E0%ED%F1%EA%E8%E5_%E1%E0%F2%E0%EB%FC%


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  • mihailow56
    mihailow56 15 February 2014 22: 51
    0
    Bow, deep bow! Honor and Glory!
  • invisibility
    invisibility 15 February 2014 07: 34
    +24
    The USSR has done a lot for Afghanistan. Perhaps this was the period when Afghanistan began to a new stage of development. And this is not only due to economic assistance. Our soldiers really ensured the safety of civilians. Afghans, direct heirs of the heroes of the Great Patriotic War. Well done. Proud of you. Men, with a capital letter!
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  • omsbon
    omsbon 15 February 2014 07: 51
    +39
    LICE pubic - Shevarnadze, Dudaev and the other with a vol about l betrayed us !!!
    1. Veteran Vlad.
      Veteran Vlad. 15 February 2014 12: 15
      +9
      Quote: omsbon
      SHI pubic - Shevarnadze, Dudaev and the other with a vol about l betrayed us !!!

      Yes, this is NOT RUSSIAN SCAM, similar to them and right now we are ruled only by the names taken by the Russians
      Therefore, we live like that, therefore we are not masters on our land, A REFRIGERATION TO EMIGRANTS AND EMISSORS FROM CUSTOMS AND CAUCASUS because non-Russians with changed names and surnames rule us
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    2. arane
      arane 15 February 2014 13: 14
      +8
      Do not offend pubic lice, they did not deserve it
  • Name
    Name 15 February 2014 08: 02
    +7
    The failure of politicians, BUT THE VICTORY OF OUR GUYS, probably so. I in the Southeast organized periods ...

    LET'S, FROM THE SOUL:
    The fighters that fought in Afghanistan
    You are a brave example for children!
    And the memory of you sounds on the screen,
    Among many politicians of high-profile speeches!

    On the day of the withdrawal of Soviet troops,
    From a foreign, enemy land,
    Let the melody be your own everywhere
    He plays triumphantly for you! soldier
  • Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 15 February 2014 08: 09
    +10
    Today, field commanders are united by a negative attitude towards the presence of international peacekeeping forces led by the United States. Against this background, the current attitude of Afghans towards Russia can be compared with the situation of 40-50 years ago, when every Soviet person in Afghanistan was met as the closest and dearest relative. Now the word "Shuravi" - "Soviet" has become popular, especially among Afghan youth. Indeed, most of them were not really familiar with Soviet specialists who had built hundreds of facilities in Afghanistan, or even with Soviet soldiers. As for those segments of the population who still remember the Soviet Union’s presence in Afghanistan, the memory of these people more often comes up not so much about the armed confrontation, as the facts of the construction of roads, factories, factories, power plants, schools in the country with the help of the Soviet Union . This is the result of the West trying to restore order in Afghanistan by military means, rather than rebuilding Afghanistan. Either lack of strength, or desire.
    http://afghanistan.ru/
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 15 February 2014 10: 56
      +4
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      Today, field commanders are united by a negative attitude towards the presence of international peacekeeping forces led by the United States.


      Still would!

      1. Veteran Vlad.
        Veteran Vlad. 15 February 2014 12: 17
        -1
        Quote: SHILO
        Still would!


        HERE IS SO AND ON BEFORE WAR, NOT HUMANISTIC Snot
        1. abdrah
          abdrah 15 February 2014 14: 43
          0
          Quote: Veteran Vlad.
          HERE IS SO AND ON BEFORE WAR, NOT HUMANISTIC Snot


          Maybe it’s easier to apply thermonuclear, so as not to dissolve and for sure? I am not a humanist, but everything should be proportional to the use of force, so as not to be like in Dresden, Hiroshima, Songmi, etc.
        2. DEMENTIY
          DEMENTIY 15 February 2014 19: 00
          0
          Quote: Veteran Vlad.
          Quote: SHILO
          Still would!


          HERE IS SO AND ON BEFORE WAR, NOT HUMANISTIC Snot


          Do not remind teachers? So fight.
        3. Freelancer7
          Freelancer7 15 February 2014 20: 43
          +5
          In fact, ours in Afghanistan very often fought. Grachev just had this position - it is better to wipe the village off the face of the earth than to ship the 200th. Look at statistics of departures and dropped bombs especially from the 85th year. And hollowed, because zadolbalsya tulips to carry zinc coffins to their homeland. At the beginning it was an international duty - then it was just a war with its own strict rules.
        4. Fedya
          Fedya 16 February 2014 00: 18
          -3
          I mean like with Khatyn!?
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 16 February 2014 18: 38
            +1
            Quote: Fedya
            I mean like with Khatyn!?

            Do not touch Khatyn ... I can remind Kaunas in June 1941 ...
  • waisson
    waisson 15 February 2014 08: 09
    +3
    Day of Remembrance of the Russians, who were performing their official duties outside the Fatherland hi soldier soldier soldier
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 15 February 2014 15: 58
      +1
      not only in Russia this is a memorable date but also in Ukraine, in its eastern part they do not forget not only about the beginning of the withdrawal but also about the end of August 15, 1988, my cousin and work colleague I congratulate twice that they returned alive, although my work colleague not full term stayed there-shell shock, but alive
  • Normman
    Normman 15 February 2014 08: 25
    +6
    I am a patriot and while in military service I wrote a request to be sent to serve in Afghanistan. Did not send. And after many years, I accidentally found on the Internet the site of the parents who lost their son in Afghanistan - http://pomnimvse.com For a long time I could not recover. So many questions to which I have no answer.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 15 February 2014 08: 37
    +16
    the successor of Ahmad-Shah Masoud for the first time names all the traitors in Moscow by name, because of which hundreds of our soldiers died in Afghanistan
    Yesterday I saw a documentary .. Ash was grinding his teeth .. what a bastard! And how many of them are in power now? And yet Afghans remember the "shuravi" with warmth and respect. After all, we not only fought, but trained ... The withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan was the beginning of the collapse of the USSR! Eternal memory to the fallen in Afghanistan! They died for their fatherland and distant borders .. Gone and after them all this evil spirits rushed into the vastness of our country ..
    1. vlad0
      vlad0 15 February 2014 10: 10
      +1
      "The successor of Ahmad Shah Massoud for the first time names by name all the traitors in Moscow, because of whom hundreds of our soldiers died in Afghanistan"

      Looked. The Afghan said nothing. The Georgian spoiled and handed over differently, forcing to conduct stupid and bloody actions when there were agreements on a truce, some kind of stability appeared.
      Well, intelligence is a job like this: to clear up, agree, not set up, protect both your soldiers, and the people you work with, and their families too.
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 15 February 2014 11: 29
        +4
        What is the difference as a crap. Apparently for everyone, as short as he could. In the place, it is more like Dudaev. It is clear that not one Gorbachev passed the USSR, and not only these three.
        On the 1st Chechen (all one to one) and Russia took up. As long as Russia is, nothing was in vain. Everlasting memory..
  • zinander
    zinander 15 February 2014 08: 43
    +10
    To all who served in Afghanistan, good luck to you and all the best. You honestly performed your duty. The country is proud of you !!!!
  • Boris55
    Boris55 15 February 2014 08: 53
    +4
    group "Rostov" -Afghan syndrome

  • ed65b
    ed65b 15 February 2014 09: 00
    +13
    Well, with .... and Georgian, and after that lives in the country whose children he betrayed in batches. There is one remark that the USSR did not lose any superiority in the air. And the fact that Russia should help healthy forces in Afghanistan is right. Well, I swore from my heart over the greats who beautifully fooled the merchants in Kabul. And yet, give our support to the Mujahideen in the fight against amers, I think the situation of the latter would be awful.
  • redcod
    redcod 15 February 2014 09: 37
    +39
    I apologize to everyone on the site. I drink in the evening. I am from Almaty. DMB-1987. Eight marches across the river. I remember - I can't sleep. Peace for everyone! Do not take away the AKS roofing paper.
    1. valerei
      valerei 15 February 2014 10: 00
      0
      Quote: redcod
      I apologize to everyone on the site. I drink in the evening. I am from Almaty. DMB-1987. Eight marches across the river. I remember - I can't sleep. Peace for everyone! Do not take away the AKS roofing paper.

      Here is a real comment from a common soldier. And ask: "Why did I go 'across the river', what did our Soviet guy lose there?" It is unlikely that he will answer why. Of course, if ordered, then ... On the other hand, what kind of idea did our guys fight for there? What is Afghanistan for us? So they left, then the Americans will leave, and Afghanistan will remain and will remain as it is. And how many lives and destinies have been crippled, how many "Afghans" with disabilities are now "living" on scanty pensions! How many resources of the USSR were wasted, and how much the USSR faced this war! All this has already been forgotten.
      1. Khamsin
        Khamsin 15 February 2014 14: 54
        +3
        In Afghanistan, the USSR had foreign policy interests. Turn to am - what are they doing in Afghanistan now, are they building democracy ??? Afghanistan was a training ground for improving military equipment. For example, helicopters were modernized taking into account the experience of military operations. Afghanistan gave combat experience to the military. The fact that it was not used in Chechnya is already a topic for another discussion.
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 15 February 2014 21: 31
        +3
        Quote: valerei
        And on the other hand, for what kind of an idea did our guys fight there?
        Is the simple idea of ​​military service to the motherland no longer in fashion?
      3. Fedya
        Fedya 16 February 2014 00: 20
        +3
        And how ..indos came to Afghanistan, so heroin flowed from there!
  • bomg.77
    bomg.77 15 February 2014 10: 00
    +15
    Yesterday I watched Kandrashev's film "Afghan" in Russia, it is very interesting, especially in the part about our traitors in the highest echelons of power. The film did not like the statement of the American (military adviser) that he was happy about one thing, in the war in Afghanistan, that the United States has more Red Army there Yes, if ours also supplied the Majahideen and provided assistance in the same amount, then it is not yet known how long they would have held out there!
  • vlad0
    vlad0 15 February 2014 10: 02
    +9
    A couple of weeks before his death in 2001, A.Sh. Masud said that the war against the Soviet troops was the biggest mistake of the Afghans. Too bad it's so late. Everything could have been different, first of all, for the Afghans themselves.

    All involved - with the holiday of withdrawal! Good luck drinks
  • densh
    densh 15 February 2014 10: 03
    +15
    To all who fought in Afghanistan, to all who returned home and to those who died, glory, a deep bow and eternal memory. And do not believe those who say that it was in vain.
  • Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 15 February 2014 10: 03
    +3
    Good film. Objective. He looked with great interest without stopping. Kondrashov - well done! .. There would be more of such sensible journalists, and such informative programs ...
  • Hleb
    Hleb 15 February 2014 10: 04
    +3

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  • Black
    Black 15 February 2014 10: 05
    +7
    Spirit directly declared the betrayal of Dudaev and Shevarnadze .....
    Dudaev is dead, cannot answer. And this one is still alive ... let's see what he says .. and in general, will he say something ...
    1. Barrcode
      Barrcode 16 February 2014 00: 26
      +1
      What he said you need to ask. And who will ask? Who needs it now? Although it would be necessary to "take an interest", they say, "You, a citizen, are a traitor! They handed you over with giblets! What do you say in your defense?"
  • Yozhas
    Yozhas 15 February 2014 10: 05
    +11
    All these traitors were not only among corrupt political prostitutes, but also among the top of the KGB, GRU and Ming. defense. I do not believe that they did not know about these calls to the souls. Not by electronic means and not by SMS, they warned them, but probably by suck. communication channel.
    And in Chechnya the same thing happened.
    1. Brother77
      Brother77 15 February 2014 18: 53
      +2
      you bro think that it was ... but I know what it is ... All these traitors were not only among corrupt political prostitutes, but also among the top of the KGB, GRU and Ming. defense.
  • redcod
    redcod 15 February 2014 10: 22
    +11
    Yesterday I thumped, today I thump, but I will stop in the evening. Afghan is not a territory or a state, it is my life. I have everything divided. I then and I now. Then I was free and strong.
    Now I am yearning and old. Especially when I swell. The truth was removed, the lie was somehow pure violet to me. I don't want to watch. I want to raise a glass of "For the boys!" "For YOU, BROTHERS!"
    1. kris
      kris 15 February 2014 12: 01
      +4
      Quote: redcod
      Yesterday I thumped, today I thump, but I will stop in the evening. Afghan is not a territory or a state, it is my life. I have everything divided. I then and I now. Then I was free and strong.
      Now I am yearning and old. Especially when I swell. The truth was removed, the lie was somehow pure violet to me. I don't want to watch. I want to raise a glass of "For the boys!" "For YOU, BROTHERS!"

      ESPECIALLY FOR YOU !
  • Egoza
    Egoza 15 February 2014 10: 32
    +8
    Health and happiness to everyone who returned from there! Eternal memory to those who did not live to see the world! and God forbid that everywhere pay tribute to our children! Even so ...
    In Lugansk, the families of those killed in Afghanistan in 2014 are compensated for by the cost of housing and communal services. The mayor of Lugansk Sergey Kravchenko said this in Lugansk at a requiem rally dedicated to the 25th anniversary of the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan, the polemic correspondent reports. “More than a thousand Afghan warriors live in Lugansk, more than a hundred are already invalids of military operations, more than thirty are families of the dead Afghans,” the mayor said. He noted that the city honors the memory of heroes. “All the families of the victims will be fully compensated for utilities. Besides the fact that on a quarterly basis we pay bonuses or rewards to families, another one thousand UAH. we will give out to each family, ”Kravchenko said. The mayor noted that this year the City Council will work to ensure that the forces of city business repair the apartments of the families of the victims.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-138524.html
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 16 February 2014 11: 54
      0
      assistance to the Afghan warriors is provided regularly exactly like the Chernobyl liquidators of the disaster, in Crimea such privileges are given by Kunitsyn — an Afghan warrior, although a bandit, but a loyal gangster, I’m not an Afghan warrior for him
  • Duke
    Duke 15 February 2014 10: 49
    +5
    To all the fallen heroes GLORY.
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 15 February 2014 11: 16
    0
    And as for me, there is nothing to be surprised that the Americans helped the Mujahideen, it would be strange if they did not help. As there is "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", and the Americans cannot be blamed that they could not foresee the future strengthening of Islamic fundamentalism, it seems even Brzezinski said when he was asked why the hell did you help the Islamists, that "In order to destroy the USSR it was worth doing, and what is more dangerous for you the Soviet army, or a couple of monkeys running with AK in the mountains?" By the way, the attitude of the Americans to their own is very significant. "ally".
  • Duke
    Duke 15 February 2014 11: 55
    +3
    Wonderful movie, thanks.
  • moremansf
    moremansf 15 February 2014 12: 01
    +1
    Afghanistan is a pain of the whole country and pride in those guys who were there and have not lost a human face !!! But the state then abandoned them ... how many guys disappeared because they could not find their place in the perestroika country !!! As everyone believed in international duty ... we all platoon in the first year of school in 1979, wrote reports to send us to Afghanistan ... Honor and glory to them and eternal memory to those who fell !!!
  • Duke
    Duke 15 February 2014 12: 05
    +11
    The granddaughter of Eduard Shevarnadze, Sofiko Shevardnadze is now a correspondent on the radio "Echo of Moscow", but the continuity.
    1. pawel57
      pawel57 15 February 2014 13: 43
      +4
      Shevarnadze Mountain Jew
      1. Turkestan
        Turkestan 15 February 2014 14: 36
        +11
        [quote = pawel57] Shevarnadze highland Jew [/ quote]


        Well, I ASHKENAZ JEWISH served in Afghanistan and WHAT ??????
        1. arane
          arane 15 February 2014 14: 38
          +5
          Do not mind it! There are .... fool
      2. igor67
        igor67 15 February 2014 21: 11
        +5
        Quote: pawel57
        Shevarnadze Mountain Jew

        http://www.israinfocenter.com/braki/126-afgan. Это Израиль 15 февраля, встреча ветеранов Афганцев
      3. RoTTor
        RoTTor 16 February 2014 13: 04
        0
        this scum made a career in the KGB when the Jews were not allowed to enter the cannon shot.
        \ so that he was not and could not be a Jew, like the GBshnik and the KPESESOV rank, pinched them "in accordance with the general line."
        With a general dislike for Jews, they write about ONE case of betrayal of a Chekist from Jews - Lyushkov. All.
        Traitors from the nationality, which is dear to us everywhere, were the majority.
        Because of and now successfully set against Russia.
      4. RoTTor
        RoTTor 16 February 2014 13: 04
        -1
        this scum made a career in the KGB when the Jews were not allowed to enter the cannon shot.
        \ so that he was not and could not be a Jew, like the GBshnik and the KPESESOV rank, pinched them "in accordance with the general line."
        With a general dislike for Jews, they write about ONE case of betrayal of a Chekist from Jews - Lyushkov. All.
        Traitors from the nationality, which is dear to us everywhere, were the majority.
        Because of and now successfully set against Russia.
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 15 February 2014 14: 58
      +6
      Quote: Duke
      The granddaughter of Eduard Shevarnadze, Sofiko Shevardnadze is now a correspondent on the radio "Echo of Moscow", but the continuity.

      and notice, they quickly get citizenship, work, and sometimes you wonder. And to a mere mortal, the maximum that maybe is some kind of video camera operator. Old Soviet ties are strong among high-ranking officials. Doors always open.
    3. Brother77
      Brother77 15 February 2014 18: 59
      +3
      Yes, it must be shit ... it's in the blood
  • Koliamba_TV
    Koliamba_TV 15 February 2014 12: 55
    0
    Afghanistan is the victims that the Americans suffered in Vietnam. That is, it can be called the revenge of the Americans.
  • arane
    arane 15 February 2014 13: 30
    +15
    Quote: Veteran Vlad.
    Therefore, we live like that, therefore we are not masters on our land, A REFRIGERATION TO EMIGRANTS AND EMISSORS FROM CUSTOMS AND CAUCASUS because non-Russians with changed names and surnames rule us

    What are you carrying? One-on-the-same nonsense is carried by majadhedet bandits, only a bunch of Russian-Caucasian people can be changed in places, banderlogs in Ukraine are the same! Who are you working for. If the Americans begin to build up the situation in Russia, then 100% under these slogans. The result is a civil war and the collapse of the state. Stargazers will be happy. Who the hell will later understand who first started, but it will not be interesting to anyone. And the cause will be people like you - either a mishandled Cossack, or just a very not thinking person. Having dozens of nationalities in the territory of one country, which also have religious contradictions, you must be a clinical idiot to rock in this direction, or do it on purpose, with the aim of the collapse of the state. You can dust me.

    Regarding the change of surnames. I do not know whose initiative it is. I live in Sochi. It is impossible to get into the service in law enforcement agencies, even in the traffic police, with a non-Russian surname. They say so in frames, change your last name. People change, they are hired. Tell me, after this, candidates who change their name become better? What nonsense. I refused to do this. You’ll change your surname today, you’ll betray your father, you can say tomorrow you’re selling your homeland.
    1. Veteran Vlad.
      Veteran Vlad. 15 February 2014 15: 43
      +8
      Quote: arane
      I refused to do this.

      I see, you are Armenian.
      And you think why they don’t take you with non-Russian surnames, but I’ll tell you because you will cover fellow countrymen to protect the Diaspora, etc. It will be clanish that you will be beaten out into major bosses and you will only post fellow countrymen to their posts, protect and give preferences and privileges to your diaspora.
      as they say KNOW ALL THIS WENT THROUGH. Here you can’t put and give leadership positions. Here is the proof of the film AFGAN
      1. arane
        arane 15 February 2014 17: 17
        +14
        What are you? Where is the logic? What will prevent me from doing this with a changed last name? This is the first thing. All my life I have served the Motherland, i.e. Russia, and not in "warm places", and in the Armed Forces, I did not have such problems. This is the second. All the benefits and preferences are normally bought and sold here, unfortunately, and officials, no matter what nationality, take money with pleasure. Here's the simplest question. Who is worse, some "khachik" who got rid of the crime with money, or a Russian judge who took money for it? Personally, me, who is what nationality. The law should be the same for everyone. Bad, good, but the same for everyone.

        WE HAVE NO SICK NATIONS. WE HAVE A VERTICAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SICK. BEFORE.

        And laws should be interpreted unambiguously, and not to anyone as they please, depending on the bribe.
        And the responsibility of officials should be for their failure to fulfill, even inadvertently, criminal liability. And confiscation, up to the seventh knee

        And about the fact that we are so bad, tell my grandfather that he returned from the war without legs.
        My colleagues, by the way Russian, that I am such and such a terrible corrupt official, will not understand either ....
        And to those thousands of boys, not Slavs, who remained in Afghanistan ..... (I mean Soviet soldiers)
        1. Veteran Vlad.
          Veteran Vlad. 15 February 2014 17: 39
          +1
          Quote: arane
          Who is worse, some "khachik" who got rid of the crime with money, or a Russian judge who took money for it? Personally, me, who is what nationality. The law should be the same for everyone. Bad, good, but the same for everyone.

          WE HAVE NO SICK NATIONS. WE HAVE A VERTICAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SICK. BEFORE.

          But these nations use it-CORRUPTION, would be normal would not use
          And as for the law, the diasporas are being justified, the culprits are all equal, the criminal has no nationality, etc., and they themselves are quietly dismissed using corruption.
          You ask who is worse: Certainly worse. Their corrupt officials from the power of JUDA, allowing me to colonize my country with migrants who have their own independent republics and oppress my people with ethnic crime and clannishness, YES YES I was not mistaken to colonize MY COUNTRY ALIEN and defend their interests.
          1. arane
            arane 15 February 2014 18: 29
            +2
            If you are talking about migrants, I agree to all 100%. Moreover, almost all the former peoples of the republics of the USSR who departed from Russia do not consider us their own. With the exception of Belarus and parts of Ukraine.
            Yes, the offender has no nationality. What you are talking about takes place, of course. But these are all the fruits of one tree, called corruption. You acknowledge it yourself. It would have been the desire of those in power, and the diasporas themselves will severely punish their freaks if they start to be responsible for it! In fact, we only disagree about nationalism. It is impossible to divide the people into parts in one country on any grounds. I don’t know, this is not exactly expressed in Sochi. There is no problem on nat. soil between people, everything has long been intertwined .....

            "But these nations are using it-CORRUPTION, they would not be normal," - believe me, the Russians also use it. You yourself know about it.
    2. Veteran Vlad.
      Veteran Vlad. 15 February 2014 15: 49
      +1
      Quote: arane
      Tell me, after this, candidates who change their name become better? What nonsense

      Of course not, yes this is nonsense
      1. arane
        arane 15 February 2014 17: 19
        +1
        By the way, thanks for answering. Became interesting
    3. 225chay
      225chay 17 February 2014 01: 41
      0
      Quote: arane
      I live in Sochi. It is impossible to get into the service in law enforcement agencies, even in the traffic police, with a non-Russian surname. They say so in frames, change your last name

      Quote: arane
      All my life I have served the Motherland, i.e. Russia, and not in "warm places"

      Quote: arane
      It is impossible to divide the people into parts in one country on any grounds. I don’t know, this is not exactly expressed in Sochi. There is no problem on nat. soil between people, everything has long been intertwined .....

      Nevertheless, your brothers are buying up all the warm places and settled on the Black Sea coast, surviving other nations and especially the Slavic, despite the fact that Russia has always helped the Armenians.
      So do a good deed, good next lesson
  • arane
    arane 15 February 2014 13: 54
    +10
    Quote: Veteran Vlad.
    Therefore, we live like that, therefore we are not masters on our land, A REFRIGERATION TO EMIGRANTS AND EMISSORS FROM CUSTOMS AND CAUCASUS because non-Russians with changed names and surnames rule us

    And the last one. We live like that, because in due time the Russian Gorbachev betrayed us all, the Russian Yeltsin drank us all. After crime in the country, crime came to power, and is not going to leave. I am not a great supporter of GDP, but he gave hope for the revival of Russia ..... and God forbid that this happen
    1. Veteran Vlad.
      Veteran Vlad. 16 February 2014 00: 06
      +2
      Quote: arane
      but he gave hope for the revival of Russia.

      Which one?
      Personally, I do not see any, Aggressive foreign policy, so he defends his feeder (Russia) to continue to exploit it
    2. 225chay
      225chay 17 February 2014 01: 46
      0
      Quote: arane
      And the last one. We live like that, because in due time the Russian Gorbachev betrayed us all, the Russian Yeltsin drank us all. Aposlya in the country crime came to power, and is not going to leave

      Armenians do not seem to be stupid, so why do you play the hackneyed disc "Russian Yeltsyn" and Russian Gorbach? "
      neither Yeltsin, nor humpbacked, nor Khrushchev, were Russian, and indeed in the Kremlin, if I am not mistaken, they are not
  • Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 15 February 2014 14: 02
    +1
    Quote: Chicot 1
    Good film. Objective. He looked with great interest without stopping. Kondrashov - well done! .. There would be more of such sensible journalists, and such informative programs ...

    Not too lazy - downloaded. Now I’ll review it without any advertisements, more thoughtfully and carefully ... smile
  • spirit
    spirit 15 February 2014 14: 20
    +5
    Below the video - yes, not a war, but a computer game.

    well yes ! it’s better to send a group, and then send the coffins home. If you don’t pay attention to what the fuck * they do there and the gender is subtext! The strategy to bomb from air to max all enemy targets is very reasonable. If we, God forbid, have a conflict, then I hope we will do the same using the entire spectrum of the latest technologies. and not the old fashioned way, as our command loves, send a group of fighters to check an empty village there or 2000 militants in it. And then the whole country wonders how this group kept them. Heroism is certainly the lot of the brave, but if it can be avoided by shooting everyone from the air and saving the lives of YOUR soldiers, it is better not to disdain this.

    Glory to all our fallen in Afghanistan !!!
  • pawel57
    pawel57 15 February 2014 14: 30
    +25
    As a former participant in the hostilities (com MSV, com MSR Herat) I want to speak out. The main defeat we suffered then, years after Stalin, we were not able to continue a competent ideological, social, and interethnic policy. At all levels of the army in Afghanistan. there was an unhealthy atmosphere of money-grubbing. Not motivated murders of locals by drunkenness, robbery, and murders on roads and villages and in operations, the sale of army property up to arms, illegal trade in vodka, drug trafficking developed even then, soldiers sold themselves for rags. All who owned what took part in it. Ethnic groups involved in smuggling and drugs developed. The deputy and singer Kobzon did not come out from Afghanistan for nothing, Dudaev, Shevarnadze, I think the Aushevs and Gromov Central Asian kings all had their own gesheft from smuggling, drug trafficking and selling of Armenian property. In the USSR, half-empty counters and in dukans, you could get everything from Japanese watches with electronics to cars. Afg. all saw it and this was one of the reasons for the hatred of us. The stated intentions were not true. Many states, ethnic gangs were formed there. The author of the film is disingenuous by idealizing the population and Mossoud. Spirits are insidious and shot at dukans, and poisoned with a teddy bear and oranges, mocked the prisoners, sent children and women to the attacks, pretended to be peaceful when pressed. the Americans are doing the right thing to put up a guard, turned away a little and you can get a bullet. If it were not for Gorbach who betrayed everything and everything, Afghanistan would be ours. Whoever wasn’t there, don’t particularly believe in the nobility of the locals, those animals are very well aware when they are put against the wall. There is nostalgia for youth, for fraternal relations in collectives (not all), and for real male life.
    1. arane
      arane 15 February 2014 14: 41
      +2
      That's why for some reason I believe in all 100%
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 15 February 2014 14: 55
      +2
      Quote: pawel57
      Not motivated murders of locals by drunkenness, robbery and murders on roads and villages and in operations, the sale of army property up to arms, illegal trade in vodka, drug trafficking developed even then, soldiers sold themselves for rags

      Strong recognition, wow ...... hi
    3. Brother77
      Brother77 15 February 2014 19: 06
      +3
      You know, Pavel. I’m working for you. I understood what I didn’t have enough from this film — it was this side of the coin — I saw and felt the same way from 1998 to 2013 ...
  • ruslan207
    ruslan207 15 February 2014 15: 05
    +3
    The USSR fought with the whole world. Weapons came from China, Italy, even the Czech Republic, where the United States bought Kalash parties for the opposition.
    1. Veteran Vlad.
      Veteran Vlad. 15 February 2014 15: 45
      +4
      Quote: ruslan207
      The USSR fought with the whole world. Weapons came from China, Italy, even the Czech Republic, where the United States bought Kalash parties for the opposition.


      Yes, with the whole world. even the Warsaw Treaty betrayed us.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 16 February 2014 18: 48
        +3
        Quote: Veteran Vlad.
        Yes, with the whole world. even the Warsaw Treaty betrayed us.

        Do you think the CSTO is better in this regard?
  • I think so
    I think so 15 February 2014 15: 59
    +2
    The whole story with Afghanistan and the Afghans shows very vividly how any people are subject to propaganda. Afghans paid hundreds of thousands for lies from across the ocean, and only now and only SEPARATE begin to understand SOMETHING ... So the Russians ... only now and only SEPARATE from them begin to understand what Gorbachev and Yeltsin did with a great country ... and what end will this once former great power have ... and what end will this once great people have ...
  • kush62
    kush62 15 February 2014 16: 05
    +4
    The film was watched with pleasure. Today repeated on the website of Vesti. The meanness of people like Shevarnadze is off scale. He did everything to the detriment of the USSR. Part of the country just presented.
    Well to hell with them.
    Eternal memory to the fallen heroes and not heroes. Shame on the traitors !!!
  • biglow
    biglow 15 February 2014 16: 56
    +6
    and this with .... Russian soldiers in Shevarnadze and in Abkhazia saved from death .... burn him in hell for treason forever.
  • Sterkh
    Sterkh 15 February 2014 17: 31
    +1
    Salam Shuravi !!! Congratulations on the 25th anniversary of the withdrawal of the OKSV from Afghanistan! Good health and prosperity to you! Let us remember all the fallen on the land of Afghanistan, all those who died after the war ... I firmly shake hands with each of you.
  • Boris55
    Boris55 15 February 2014 17: 32
    +2
    A brief perspective of the Afghan war.

  • akm8226
    akm8226 15 February 2014 17: 38
    +5
    Until the traitor Shevardnadze and others like him are publicly executed - until then we will have such a brothel.
  • Sterkh
    Sterkh 15 February 2014 17: 52
    +5
    Quote: smersh70
    Not motivated murders of locals by drunkenness, robbery, and murders on roads and villages and in operations, the sale of army property up to arms, illegal trade in vodka, drug trafficking even then,
    as a participant in the 1st Chechen one, the same thing happened with us at 95m .. everything was mixed up .. meanness and heroism, blood and money .. hard to remember.
  • Strashila
    Strashila 15 February 2014 18: 49
    +5
    They fought in Afghanistan before the Soviet entry, they fought after the Soviet withdrawal, they fight after the American troops ... they will fight after their withdrawal. But the most peaceful years for the country were the years when there was a contingent of Soviet troops ... then schools, roads, factories were built ... this was not before and this is not after.
  • not main
    not main 15 February 2014 19: 56
    +1
    Quote: Max_Bauder
    How did the pilots agree to fulfill the order?

    And try not to do it! Especially in 1989. I do not envy, or rather, condolences!
    1. arane
      arane 15 February 2014 20: 32
      +1
      Yes, they could not help but fulfill. First, orders must be followed; this is the cornerstone on which any army stands. Now from a moral point of view. Nobody ordered them to execute the shooting of peaceful villages and civilians. Such an order would most likely not be carried out. I don’t know what exactly the order was, but something like: According to intelligence .... tra-la-la ... squared .... clusters of militants .... in order to provide cover for the withdrawal of our troops and further in the text. That's all. Who does not fulfill such an order?
  • fog
    fog 15 February 2014 21: 11
    +1
    I recommend watching the film not only for adults, but for the younger generation, as this film has a lot of meaning, that even during the war it’s necessary to remain human, not to lose honor and humanity
  • GUSAR
    GUSAR 15 February 2014 21: 16
    +3
    Warriors - Afghans Thank you
  • akm8226
    akm8226 15 February 2014 22: 35
    +1
    I watched the film - the movie is cowardly. Not even half of what was to be said was said. Everything was passed up the heights and in passing.
    The application was for steepness - it turned out zilch.
  • Azaat
    Azaat 15 February 2014 23: 23
    +1
    In the film, the pipes of the wire troops are remembered, but for some reason they do not remember about the Kamaz tank trucks following through Salang and beyond. Greetings to all Vologda residents, Kamazists, Afghans.
  • demotivator
    demotivator 16 February 2014 06: 50
    +2
    BMP - 15000

    Twenty five ... The age of our ashes.
    We would be forty with a dozen.
    We lay on the Afghan chopping block
    The first swallow in the Soviet collapse.
    Pouring blood, then sweat
    Having lost orders and medals,
    We are in fraternal infantry vehicles
    Between hell and paradise stuck.
    We are nowhere. We are in the wreckage of a power.
    They didn’t take us out. It's not about the wounds.
    The country was dying ... and lying ...
    And flew on the "black tulips."
    We will return from there, hardly:
    Through the death of neither bridges nor ferries.
    But we didn’t fight for that,
    To become the governor of Gromov.
    Not that in the Afghan shacks
    Our bullets left holes.
    Not for Kvachkov and Khabarov
    We dreamed in prison uniforms.
    Not for the platoon, porous -
    Withdrawal of troops ... to the Chechen massacre ...
    Not for the lists of "two hundredth"
    Voted parental pain.
    Not for that! .. No way! .. And powerless
    The shadows of the dead fled to Termez.
    Not troops, - deduced Russia
    From the composition of a great power.
    Someone has their own way, you know !?
    Why do you swallow red foam?
    You know, when you die ...
    And you, as a cartridge, are sent.
    And take the BMP system rusty
    Between heaven and hell heights.
    And the power lies with us
    In our mass graves of infantry.

    November 15.02.14, XNUMX
    Leonid Kornilov
  • Tan4ik
    Tan4ik 16 February 2014 09: 58
    0
    Where can I see photos / videos of drivers in Afghanistan without songs.
  • serge
    serge 16 February 2014 10: 53
    +3
    The friendship of peoples in the USSR was just a sight for sore eyes. Dudaev merged information from Bagram, Shevardnadze right from Moscow. This Shevardnadze viper is still alive, an aspen stake in his heart.