Military Review

Bilateral hysteria

58
Bilateral hysteria

Anders Fogh Rasmussen does not believe in the peace-loving nature of Russia's foreign policy.



At the anniversary 50-th security conference in Munich, Russia and the West routinely quarreled on all issues. At the same time, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen made a number of complaints against Russia on military issues. “Russia calls NATO a“ threat ”, locates its aircraft in Belarus, missiles in Kaliningrad and military forces in the Arctic! - he said. - We heard about the fears of the Russian Federation that the missile defense system will undermine the Russian strategic deterrence potential. This is contrary to the facts and laws of physics. "

Rasmussen is right on all points. Antinatov's hysteria in Russia has already passed into collective paranoia, about which NVO wrote in the article “Legends and Myths about NATO” (15.11.13). Russia actually places its aircraft (Su-27 and, possibly, the newest Su-30) in Belarus, the Iskander missiles in the Kaliningrad region. As it has been written in the Western press more than once, quite rightly, Russia says a lot about the militarization of the Arctic, but if anyone is doing this militarization, it is only Russia itself (almost 100% of the armed forces stationed north of the polar circle are Russian).

The reasoning that missile defense in Europe will undermine our strategic potential is really contrary to the facts and laws of physics. Problems for our SNF could create a missile defense system, located in the United States, but not in Europe.

However, it should be noted that the anti-Russian hysteria in the West is practically not inferior either in intensity or in the absurdity of the content of anti-NATO hysteria in Russia.

At the same time, it is completely impossible to establish who first began and who looks sillier. In general, making claims to others, we should not forget to look at this aspect of ourselves.

OUR RESPONSE TO EUROPRO

Claims about Iskander look rather strange. The ground forces of the Russian Armed Forces have 10 rocket brigades. Before 2010, all of them were equipped with “Tochka-U” missiles (flight range - 120 km). These missiles were put into service in the 1989 year and are already physically obsolete and even more morally. Any military equipment, after all, requires replacement. Even 4 a year ago, the Russian Defense Ministry quite officially announced that all rocket brigades would be re-equipped from Point-U to Iskander. This process began in 2010, the following year, the first of the missile brigades, 26-I, stationed in Luga, Leningrad Region, was completed with a new OTRK. Then "Iskander" received the 92-I brigade of the Central IN (deployed in Totskom of the Orenburg region), then - the 107-I Brigade of the Eastern IN (village Semistochny of the Jewish Autonomous Region). The latter probably didn’t like China very much, but he had enough realism to keep silent. Already this year, the 1-I missile brigade of the Southern Military District (Molkino, Krasnodar Territory) re-equipped the Iskander. Thus, the circle was closed, the turn of the Western HE came again. There are three more missile brigades, including the 152-I (Chernyakhovsk, Kaliningrad region). Not now, so in two or three years the turn would have reached her anyway.

Many observers see a connection between the Iskanders in the Baltic and the future American missile defense system in Poland. In fact, when (and if) anti-missile defense facilities appear in Poland, the Iskanders of the 152 Brigade will easily reach them. Actually, Moscow has never concealed that it does not like the ABM and it will take countermeasures. It is clear to any objective expert that European countries, deploying American missile defense facilities on their territory, will not increase their security, but will lower it, and quite significantly. In the end, it is their free choice.

As for the missile defense itself, then yes, our claims contradict the facts and laws of physics. But the missile defense itself is contrary to the laws of common sense. The Iranian and, moreover, the North Korean threats to Europe are so absurd and unrealistic that they simply cannot but arouse suspicion - missile defense is being created against someone and something completely different. But NATO categorically does not want to understand this.

The delight of the letter "I"

And in Russia it is not at all customary to understand that in northeastern Europe (in the Baltic countries, Poland and to a lesser extent in Scandinavia) we are seriously afraid, considering them potential aggressors. Especially this fear increased after the Five-Day War in the Caucasus in August 2008. In these countries, those Caucasian events were unequivocally perceived as the beginning of the “restoration of the Russian empire”. It’s useless to persuade them to do the opposite, such is their perception. stories. The aggressiveness of the rhetoric of Moscow and the rearmament of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation that has begun, and with an emphasis on the Western IN, only reinforces them in this confidence. Yes, this is absurd and paranoia, but no more than the Russian expectation of NATO aggression.

It is absurd to expect NATO aggression even because almost all European NATO armies lost their ability to conduct independent combat operations (even defensive, not to mention offensive) during their infinite disarmament, and in the foreseeable future they would lose the ability to fight already and collectively. The point is the psychological state of European societies, the consequence of which is disarmament.

The famous American military theorist Edward Luttvak, at the end of 80, called the current psychological state of the West “post-heroic epoch”. Over the past period, the situation has worsened many times. Postmodernism and all-conquering tolerance have created a situation where almost any perversion is recognized as the norm (the brightest manifestation of this is the rabid struggle of Western politicians for equalizing all minority sexual rights with normal people), respectively, almost nothing “bad” remains. Now it is just “other” (in particular, instead of the word “fool”, the term “alternatively thinking” is now used in the West). The center of everything is the “I”, and this is what it is, any one that does not need any corrections and improvements. Surrounding must accept this “I” with full enthusiasm.

Reading morality on this subject is completely meaningless, it is a voluntary choice of the West. In addition, we have enough of their own deformities. But the fact is that such psychological attitudes preclude readiness for war (in the sense of readiness to die). This was fully expressed in the total transition of the Western armies from the draft to the hired principle of recruitment under the slogan "The military profession is the same as everyone else." It is difficult to come up with a more brazen lie. The military profession is the only one that implies the obligation to die. And that is why it is categorically not the same as everyone else. You can't die for money, it’s trite, but nonetheless absolutely true. And even more so will not die the very Western "I", which is located in the center of the universe. What should he die for?

TWO QUESTIONS TO RUSSIA

One of the most important causes of anti-Russian hysteria in the West - this is his very psychological state. They are infuriated by the fact that Russia refuses to fit into the current Western ideological paradigm. Rabies is greatly exacerbated by the fact that Russia's military power has once again begun to increase, while Europe is not ready for the same reasons either for economic or psychological reasons. And the United States, which began a significant reduction in the military budget, wants to save primarily on its troops in Europe, which are becoming more and more symbolic. That is, all this hysteria can be reduced to two questions of the West to Russia: why are you not listening to us and why are you scaring us ?!

On the other hand, in Russia they cannot fail to see regular NATO aggression. The causes of these aggressions are interpreted here completely pervertedly, they are constantly looking for an economic (primarily oil and gas) background or a desire to deploy military bases. Both of these versions are never supported by any facts, but “if the theory contradicts the facts, so much the worse for the facts.” The real reason for intervention completely coincides with the declared one - they are “humanitarian”, that is, ideological in nature. From what actually become much more dangerous. In the interventions there is no pragmatism, they only create problems for the West itself (this applies to Kosovo, Libya, and the whole Middle and Near East in general). But the desire to “free the oppressed from tyranny” is more important than reality. And more importantly, the oppressed after “liberation” almost always fall under even worse tyranny or into complete chaos.

It is impossible not to see the fact that "liberating the oppressed" NATO is ready only if it does not threaten NATO itself. This has become more than obvious from a comparison of the events in Libya and Syria. The reasons for "humanitarian intervention" in Syria are an order of magnitude greater than they were in Libya. But only Libya had nothing to respond to the intervention, and Syria really has something to do with it. In this regard, we can recall the events of last autumn, when the aggression against Syria seemed resolved. From 28 of the NATO countries, 25, including even Great Britain and Canada, immediately and categorically refused to participate in it due to the lack of opportunity and desire to fight. And this intervention, which would have turned into enormous expenditures (especially without allies), was not part of the US plans. Therefore, Secretary of State John Kerry stated directly and openly that Moscow must do so that the blow would not take place. It is unlikely that Washington wanted to save Assad. They wanted to save themselves. And they explained to Moscow how Washington should be saved from this war. Moscow saved.

POLICY ON THE VERGE OF PARANOIA

NATO is completely not going to "capture the oil" of Russia. This is not only impossible, but also pointless (given how much of its oil Russia drives to the West, and then no less significant part of the money received from its sale moves there too). But, oddly enough, the idea may be born there of saving Russian sex minorities from “oppression”. True, this thought will die immediately after they see at least a dozen S-400 regiments there. For a similar reason, a much more real idea will die - to “liberate” the Abkhaz and South Ossetians. In the West, the overwhelming majority of people, including politicians, are convinced that these peoples languish under the yoke of "imperial Russia" and in every possible way dream of this yoke freeing themselves and returning to a free democratic Georgia. In the West, they are absolutely sure of this. As sincerely as, for example, we are confident that NATO has surrounded Russia with a ring of its bases and that in connection with current events in Ukraine there is a real threat of NATO tanks in Kharkov and Donetsk.

Unfortunately, there are too many such nonsense in the views of the parties on each other. On the other hand, many Western statements about internal Russian shortcomings have very real grounds. But many Russian statements about Western flaws also have real grounds. However, the parties categorically do not want to hear each other, they are convinced of their absolute rightness, and mutual claims, which are a mixture of truth and delirium, only reinforce mutual paranoia that covers all spheres, including the military. This problem is not military, not economic, or even ideological and political, but almost exclusively psychological. That is why it seems practically insoluble. Neither side is ready to stop, to look at itself and to recognize at least a partial rightness of the opponent. And the author of this article is not ready to call on compatriots: “Let's be the first!” We were already the first. The Russian desire for the West in the first half of the 90-s was not any surrender, as is commonly believed now. There was an absolutely sincere desire to become part of the “civilized world”, with whom the West was identified. But the “civilized world” took it as a surrender. And he behaved accordingly. There is not the slightest sign that this mistake has been realized in the West. Or even worse, there it is simply not considered a mistake.
Author:
Originator:
http://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2014-02-14/1_hysteria.html
58 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. Same lech
    Same lech 15 February 2014 06: 03
    +29
    Rasmussen is right in every way


    I do not agree Rasmussen is lying in every comment, and why should we trust him, seeing the fate of the NATO-bombed countries.

    NATO is completely not going to "capture the oil" of Russia.

    Of course, this will not be done by NATO, but by people like CHUBAIS (no one has fired as advisers to staff and freelance agents of the CIA agents of influence.

    Unfortunately, there is too much of such nonsense in the views of the parties on each other.

    Here KHRAMCHIKHIN plays with words, unlike the NATO countries, all the delights of this nonsense were experienced by the countries subjected to the MISSILE BOMB attacks.
    Now the WEST just changed the record; LGBT activists, TV channels such as RAIN, LIBERAL JOURNALISTS -COSMOPOLITS like POSNER and SHENDEROVICH-RUSSIA are trying to break up inside using our own traitors from the fifth column.
    1. PPL
      PPL 15 February 2014 07: 00
      +11
      There was a completely sincere desire to become part of the "civilized world" with which the West was identified. But the “civilized world” perceived this precisely as surrender.

      It could not be perceived otherwise. They see a threat everywhere. I am not a psychiatrist, but I read somewhere that paranoid people are haunted by the same fears and filth that they are ready to use against others. Anders Fogh Rasmussen (and all Western tantrums) behaves like a paranoid overwhelmed by the persecution mania.
      When there is something to protect oneself from evil, it is pleasant to recognize oneself as strong, courageous and kind. In a pack of wolves, a lamb, especially the most harmless one, cannot live even a day. To survive, become a leader, then everyone will praise your virtues. I mean, if Russia had not been strong, it would have been awaited by the fate of many countries, which are torn to pieces and deprived of independence. And why the hell am I such a "civilized world", where you cease to respect yourself.
      Although Russia may have deprived the pleasure of masochists of a liberal orientation. lol
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 15 February 2014 07: 52
        +18
        Kharamchikhin, and where do we get to? The United States plans to transfer a significant part of its troops from Italy and Germany to Poland and the Baltic states in the near future, for which the modernization of airfields, land transport network and seaports in the Baltic is in full swing. The rebuilt Polish ports of Swinoujscie and Gdynia can already receive American and British landing and transport ships. Seven Polish airfields have been re-equipped according to NATO standards, where all types of aircraft can now land. The Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonian airfields at the Zoknyai, Lielvarde and Emari airbases were modernized. Just try to answer the question - Where will the freed ISAF contingent be deployed after the withdrawal of the Western coalition troops from Afghanistan? With a 100% guarantee, it can be assumed that priority attention in NATO's plans will be given to Eastern Europe, primarily Poland and the Baltic states. Three months of Euromaidan is not a sufficient confirmation of the "peacefulness" of the West and its "non-striving" to the East? And what about pushing Georgia into NATO by any means? NATO's raison d'être is to continue expanding this military bloc eastward. The strategic concept of such an expansion was adopted by NATO in 1999, during the bombing of Yugoslavia, and no one in Brussels canceled the related plans. Continue to write nonsense about China, where you have great one-sided hysteria.
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 15 February 2014 08: 49
          +11
          Both of these versions are never confirmed by any facts, but "if the theory contradicts the facts - so much the worse for the facts"


          Only it seems to me that the article itself is openly contrary to the facts?

          The author should be reminded of the PSA agreements - the question is whether the West wants free oil or not?

          Each paragraph contradicts what the States do. And the dirt that the last 7 years poured on our Olympics and those bots / stubborn ones who continue to do this now is a very indicative example of the fact that the US is afraid of us and therefore attacking us. They are afraid to face strong Russia again on 1 / 5 land, which has everything in order to send everyone to w ... And that's why everything that we see around our borders and in our part of the Middle East happens.
          1. avdkrd
            avdkrd 16 February 2014 14: 58
            +2
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            The reasoning that missile defense in Europe will undermine our strategic potential is really contrary to the facts and laws of physics. Problems for our SNF could create a missile defense system, located in the United States, but not in Europe.

            In this, the author is cunning and pours water on the mill SAS. Since when can not missile defense undermine strategic potential? This is precisely its purpose - to make a retaliatory strike not effective. In addition, it has been written more than once that anti-missiles are dual-use weapons and can be used no less effectively for a first, disarming strike, which is especially important given the fact that missile defense interceptors have nuclear warheads. There is one more point - potentially a missile defense system is designed for long-range interception - outside its territory. If we look at such a hypothetical situation when a North Korean missile aimed at Kim Jong-un at Warsaw is knocked down by a nuclear mine, wherever you are over Bryansk, will this greatly help Poland? Or is it more interesting for the Poles to burn out from a retaliatory strike in Russia in this case, moreover, a strike not of a mythical North Korean missile, but of the Topol regiment?
            Russia should clearly explain to our "partners" from NATO that ANY missile defense use from their territory is AUTOMATICALLY regarded as a nuclear missile attack, with all the ensuing consequences. I think if such a thesis is conveyed to the European inhabitants, then even their brains raped by propaganda will quickly comprehend a causal relationship - if there is missile defense - you are the goal, if there is no missile defense - there is the future.
        2. mirag2
          mirag2 15 February 2014 08: 53
          +5
          A very competent comment, I agree, after Afghanistan, the Americans will climb to Europe if they cease to feel the threat from China.
          But any fuss with the introduction of liberal agents of influence into our government and finances will and will continue.
    2. Sakmagon
      Sakmagon 15 February 2014 07: 58
      +8
      And the author of this article is not ready to call on compatriots: “Let's be the first!”

      Although I began the article with the words "... who was the first to start and who looks more stupid ... when making claims to others, we must not forget to look at ourselves in this aspect ", and then painfully paints that WE ARE GUILTY (?!)
      The feeling that the author fell out of hibernation at the wrong time ...To evaluate an article, I’ll remove a phrase from its context (I repent ...):
      There is too much of such delirium in the looks ... unfortunately.
      1. smel
        smel 15 February 2014 08: 24
        +11
        The author did not fall out of hibernation. He is awake. And slowly and slowly, it is participating in the deformation of our consciousness with respect to the absence of threats. Apparently he never read anything other than fairy tales, he never participated anywhere in hostilities. And if he knows and promotes pessimism and nonsense in the defense sphere, it means a specific enemy.
        Gunpowder must be kept dry. And do not forget that they respect the strong
        So minus the author. He needs to post his opuses on Echo of Moscow
        1. major071
          major071 15 February 2014 09: 41
          +15
          Put a minus. I'd rather be paranoid than a slobbering idiot who believes in world peace and a white, furry west. fool
          Si vis pacem, para bellum ("if you want peace - prepare for war")
        2. Candy wrapper
          Candy wrapper 15 February 2014 10: 07
          +8
          The author did not even serve in the army, and there he is posing as a military expert. It is necessary to indicate immediately before the titles of his articles: Khramchikhin, and people will not waste their time on his stupid articles.
        3. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 15 February 2014 12: 16
          +1
          If you want peace, make parabellum!
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 15 February 2014 11: 00
        +5
        Quote: Sacmagon
        The feeling that the author fell out of hibernation at the wrong time ...

        I just didn’t understand that - in the end we are good or bad, who is to blame and what to do?
        But the article inspired -
        - Hello, we are from Russia!
        - And what from the threshold immediately threaten ????
    3. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 15 February 2014 11: 39
      +6
      Gaddafi also considered the threats of NATO delirium. And where is Gaddafi now?
    4. SSR
      SSR 15 February 2014 11: 48
      +3
      Yes, our army on Rasmundsen and Co., there is a fundamental difference, we place on our territory and the United States where they reach. In the event of a mess, the United States will easily merge Poland, the Poles will feel bad and sad, and the United States will sit on another continent and nakushivat - fas fas poland schweine, fas fas baltik labuses, they all shine with the fate of the number one product, use and throw away and they themselves will be protected. (USA)
      1. HAM
        HAM 15 February 2014 13: 03
        0
        Product number 1 is a gas mask, "that" is product number 2.
    5. jjj
      jjj 15 February 2014 12: 08
      +6
      Grandfather Krylov once described a similar situation:
      “You're gray, mate, and I'm gray.” And I know your wolf well.
      And therefore, my custom is that with wolves it’s not possible to make world otherwise,
      How to skin them off!
      And then he released a pack of hounds on a wolf
    6. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. 15 February 2014 12: 47
      +2
      Yugoslavia was striving for the same westward, which is evident now, Kadaffi played the same with the west, until we restore the economy, they will roll on our defense in every possible way. First of all, you need to restore order in your country, but this is the problem, the economic bloc has completely failed and any statements about a good progress cause irritation in society, like the notorious fight against corruption, the example of the "stool", Rosreestr, the Moscow region, the case of prosecutors ... These are the main and painful issues in society and our government does not solve them, moreover, this already looks like a crime against its people, because, first of all, ordinary people suffer from this mess, and not a bunch of snickering oligarchs and corrupt officials. The government must think and act in the interests of the entire people, which is not for the planting.
    7. Skiff-2
      Skiff-2 15 February 2014 15: 10
      0
      Khramchikhin ... "independent military review" - the brainchild of Berezovsky. Western hysteria? , I agree ... the hysteria of Russia ?! , sorry did not notice. And in general, funny "onalytics" in the style of Shenderovich - it smells bad, but so heartfelt ...
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 15 February 2014 15: 37
        0
        Quote: Skif-2
        Khramchikhin ... "independent military review" - the brainchild of Berezovsky. Western hysteria? , I agree ... the hysteria of Russia ?! , sorry did not notice. And in general, funny "onalytics" in the style of Shenderovich - it smells bad, but so heartfelt ...


        Yes there is Maltsa. Straight a little.

        In general, analytics is on the verge. Rational grain is, but served in an anti-Russian vein. The facts are clearly stated: they are afraid of us and want to control us. Actually, each individual fact is enough for hysteria. On the whole, the article of A.A. is clear, but there is something to think about.
  2. Belogor
    Belogor 15 February 2014 06: 12
    +12
    To whom does the author want to "hang noodles"? NATO is an enemy and this is definitely !!!
  3. Name
    Name 15 February 2014 06: 18
    +6
    Yes, Russia does not need a "civilized western" world ... with a mustache ... And even more so to listen to Rasmussen. NA.HR.EN And this bbb ... st, this Americanization, if they have
  4. andrei332809
    andrei332809 15 February 2014 06: 25
    +9
    Quote: name
    why are you not obeying us and why are you scaring us ?!

    because you are woodpeckers.
    and I didn’t like the article — one thought passes through everything written — the West is not our enemy. something smelled like liberalism
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 15 February 2014 06: 32
      +6
      smelled like liberalism
      I think it doesn’t just smell and it stinks like from a sewer.
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 15 February 2014 07: 03
        +3
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I think it doesn’t just smell and it stinks from the sewer

        By contradiction, the article is unambiguous. Then they can’t do anything, and modernization is as if for nothing. They hypothetically want to but
        this thought will die immediately after they see at least a dozen S-400 regiments there.

        So you have to work without any but. Weak provokes attack.
    2. feanor
      feanor 15 February 2014 07: 06
      -3
      Quote: andrei332809
      because you are woodpeckers. but I didn’t like the article — one thought passes through everything written — the West is not our enemy. something smelled like liberalism

      There are negative points in the article, but it does not say that NATO is not our enemy, it soberly says that no one is going to fight with us, but between us and the so-called West there has been and will be a struggle of civilizations. I do not know where you saw liberalism or sniffed it.
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 15 February 2014 09: 43
        +1
        There are negative points in the article, but it does not say that NATO is not our enemy, it soberly says that no one is going to fight with us, but between us and the so-called West there has been and will be a struggle of civilizations. I do not know where you saw liberalism or sniffed it.

        What is NATO going to do ?! Is this a public organization or a charitable foundation ?! Do not carry nonsense !!! This office was originally created for the war with us!!!
        1. feanor
          feanor 15 February 2014 13: 28
          0
          Quote: alex-s
          What is NATO going to do ?! Is this a public organization or a charitable foundation ?! Do not carry nonsense !!! This office was originally created for the war with us!!!

          You are not talking nonsense, although NATO was created to confront the Soviet Union, but now they are not so strong, and as long as there is a threat of large losses, they will not risk it.
      2. Aleksandr65
        Aleksandr65 15 February 2014 11: 51
        +4
        Of course, NATO will not fight with us. While we are strong. And as soon as weaken, tear, like a giraffe Marius.
      3. Slavapom
        Slavapom 15 February 2014 12: 37
        0
        over the past 20 years, all military conflicts are precisely with this thought, that the allegations have just begun.
    3. Name
      Name 15 February 2014 07: 55
      +2
      Quote: andrei332809
      Quote: name
      why are you not obeying us and why are you scaring us ?!
      because you are woodpeckers.
      and I didn’t like the article — one thought passes through everything written — the West is not our enemy. something smelled like liberalism

      There is no such thing in my comment ... Carefully please, I quote for you: Yes, Russia does not need a "civilized western" world ... with a mustache ... And even more so to listen to Rasmussen. ON.KHR.EN. And this bbb ... st,
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 15 February 2014 08: 01
        0
        Quote: name
        There is no such thing in my comment.

        to blame hi I will correct recourse
        1. alone
          alone 15 February 2014 12: 40
          0
          All military experts divorced, like flies in the trash. And 99% did not even serve.

          I saw the name of the author of the article and did not read.
          1. The comment was deleted.
  5. the polar
    the polar 15 February 2014 06: 30
    +9
    It turns out that in connection with current events in Ukraine there is no real threat of the appearance of NATO tanks in Kharkov and Donetsk.

    The author in the furnace! along with his writings. The appearance of such "writers" only confirms the need for urgent rearmament and the establishment of pro-Russian power in Ukraine
  6. Edward72
    Edward72 15 February 2014 06: 35
    +2
    Russia is Russia, and Europe, by and large, let’s go for a walk. Let them howl
  7. ddmm09
    ddmm09 15 February 2014 06: 55
    0
    The leadership of the Republic of Ingushetia still promotes the idea of ​​rapprochement with the EU - the abolition of the visa regime, etc. If only not a catch in all of this.
    1. demel2
      demel2 15 February 2014 08: 41
      +1
      The visa-free regime is being promoted by just those figures who drive resources to Europe and keep stolen loot there, so that if they get the people it would be completely possible with. no problem, as well as a shift to ride more convenient.
  8. zavesa01
    zavesa01 15 February 2014 06: 57
    +2
    They promote missile defense, finance revolutions, and terrorist organizations conduct total surveillance. And all in order to give freedom to the Abkhaz laughing . For NATO, the very existence of a strong Russia is like a bone in the throat.
    "This democracy will not do good." As well as their liberalism, which they invented for the duped masses.
  9. Humpty
    Humpty 15 February 2014 07: 09
    +2
    The author, or his full namesake, works at the Institute for Political and Military Analysis. A prominent political and military specialist considers the Russians paranoid.
    It was interesting to read his biography, I advise. Although there is nothing unexpected there, everything is logical.
  10. Ppsh
    Ppsh 15 February 2014 07: 09
    -1
    Dissolve NATO - and there will be peace and mutual understanding ....
    But Khramchin, as an analyst, has sintered ...
    1. Andrey57
      Andrey57 15 February 2014 13: 07
      0
      But Khramchin, as an analyst, has sintered ...


      And he never was! And all the above verbal poznos - a clear confirmation of this, especially amused the discussion about the laws of physics fellow Khramchikhin should have taken the globe in his hands and try to understand why the mattress makers are planning to deploy interceptor missiles in Europe and Alaska - just because this is the optimal interception according to the very laws of physics! It's just that on a "flat" map it is not so clearly visible - in the same place the meridians are "curves" fellow
      Then, the more the guys from NATO, and indeed the whole West, are "outraged" by the "wrong actions" of Russia, the more correct are the decisions made and implemented in Russia.
  11. Magadan
    Magadan 15 February 2014 07: 17
    +6
    Damn, guys, the author did not persecute any liberal hysteria. He simply mocked with cynicism through NATO. In all seriousness, silly things are written - this is such a literary ho.
    But the author seriously believes that NATO is not a threat, because the local population has long turned into a kind of amorphous biomass. This is partly true, but only partly.
    Firstly, a million or two combat-ready men (and hmmm ... women) can be gained. And if it weren’t, then at the Olympics now our skiers with biathletes would be in the lead in the medal standings. In general, do not underestimate the enemy
    Secondly, who said that the Europeans themselves will fight against us? Why not get the same Arabs from countries destroyed by NATO? And why are PMCs being created now?
    Guess from two times, Hannibal (the same one from Carthage), called his citizens into the army of Carthage? No matter how it is - mostly mercenaries fought there. "PMC" Numibia - cavalry. "PMCs" of central Africa - elephants; "PMCs" of Spain - sling archers, etc.
    NATO will simply provide the mercenaries with its infrastructure. Well, there, maybe a hundred or two thousand will be thrown from the Baltic states, Romania, Poland and Bandero-Galicia
    1. PPL
      PPL 15 February 2014 07: 59
      +8
      Damn, guys, the author did not persecute any liberal hysteria. He simply mocked with cynicism through NATO. In all seriousness, silly things are written - this is such a literary ho.

      If it were, I would be the first to fast with him. BUT! All articles were written by Khramchikhin in all seriousness and are full of amateurism in assessing the situation. What is his forecast of August 7, 2008 alone? The day before the start of the war in South Ossetia, Alexander Khramchikhin said that he excludes the scenario of armed conflict:
      "There will be no Georgian offensive, this is absolutely out of the question. ... There will be no war in any case. Apparently, Georgia's goal is to destabilize the situation in South Ossetia so that as many people as possible fled from there to Russia. This is done in order to weaken the republic militarily, economically and psychologically "
      - Experts: There Will Be No War in South Ossetia - Russian News
      Do you still believe him? lol
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 15 February 2014 08: 19
        +3
        Quote: Magadan
        Damn, guys, the author did not persecute any liberal hysteria.

        To some extent, I agreed with you. But here it’s also said so
        On the other hand, many Western statements about domestic Russian shortcomings have quite real reasons. But many Russian statements about Western flaws also have real reasons.

        What hits the Russian mentality. Because neh.ren "Western statements" are poking around in Internal Russian flaws. Statements by Russian politicians usually appear when their shortcomings come out and concern others (well, at least in Syria). Of course, the attack on our Georgian peacekeepers can be considered our internal flaw. Actually, it is, even Saak seemed weak. Although provocations are also sometimes used as a literary move.
      2. Magadan
        Magadan 15 February 2014 10: 34
        +1
        Interesting, but I was just sure that the author would die like that! By the style of writing, it doesn’t look like an analytical article at all, and I thought it was purely feuilleton :)
        By the way, the surname is also well-known, it’s not Khramchikhin who wrote some kind of nonsense about how our fleet amuses the Americans, and what is the type of defeat of Peter the Great only about 200 km?
        Then I take the words back :) Rather, the expression "when the Lord wants to punish a person, then deprives him of reason"
        1. Anper
          Anper 15 February 2014 11: 01
          0
          Quote: Magadan
          By the style of writing, it doesn’t look like an analytical article at all, and I thought it was purely feuilleton :)

          Isn't it a bit much for an analytical article paranoia и hysteria?
      3. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 15 February 2014 13: 00
        +2
        Quote: PPZ
        Do you still believe him?

        Therefore, the conclusion: "The Cossack is sent!" (quote from the movie "The Elusive Avengers".
      4. old rocket man
        old rocket man 15 February 2014 15: 26
        +1
        Quote: PPZ
        - Experts: There Will Be No War in South Ossetia - Russian News
        Do you still believe him? lol


        The experts correctly assessed the situation and the real balance of power. Georgia lost miserably and neither NATO nor the United States intervened. But no one could predict the suicidal idiocy of Saakashvili, who unleashed the war against all common sense.
    2. I do not care
      I do not care 15 February 2014 09: 32
      +1
      I agree, but it’s hard for blacks to learn how to fly on Mirages, and in the first days of the conflict, the Galician and Baltic states will cease to exist as independent territories. So NAT will have to fight with what it is.
      1. Pushkar
        Pushkar 15 February 2014 11: 33
        +1
        Quote: me by
        I agree, but it’s hard for blacks to learn to fly Mirages
        I don’t agree. A fighter pilot is 99% reflexes, reactions and purely physical training. This is a fighter who masterfully owns his club. Therefore, the best pilots in Vietnam were blacks, not the most educated people. So, Magadan is right, there is someone to fight against us.
    3. haron
      haron 15 February 2014 10: 11
      +5
      Quote: Magadan
      But the author seriously believes that NATO is not a threat, because the local population has long turned into a kind of amorphous biomass. This is partly true, but only partly.

      I agree.
      If you take the military budgets of united Europe, then this is like it or not, the second place in the world. I can clearly see that the armed forces of the countries are almost completely integrated into one system and the division into Germans, French, Czechs, Italians is quite relative. And these are not boys or IT glasses at all.

      The following. The Balts are really afraid that Russia will come to them for its imposition. they (Balts) like ... I don't even know what to call it. Tobish begin to pinch their Russians to the fullest, while at the same time they smell terribly that a bear will come for their children and break everything for them, or even bring them back to their "den" again. So I raise a cry in front of my owners (koi is the usa) to protect them. Like we beat a classmate and are afraid that his dad will come and break us.
      All butch because of the Baltic states.
      The brain is dumb. They could easily integrate the Russian population into the system and eat from two refrigerators, so no, they need to fight with the Russians for fear of falling into the evil empire.
  12. delfinN
    delfinN 15 February 2014 07: 37
    +6
    How did they get these scribblers. the author either ... from (art. 20-b moronicity to a slight degree), or an accomplished liberalist like Shvonderovich. What kind of anti-NATO hysteria in Russia can we talk about when all the troubles came to us from the west, how such asashkaika with its missile defense defends such national interests on the European continent. This hapless ... scribbler is already whacked, like the old Romualdich at Ilf and Petrov, who, as you know, loved footcloths to sniff in the field. Article minus, author's firebox, better at stake. And from me personally
  13. taseka
    taseka 15 February 2014 08: 09
    +5
    “NATO has absolutely no intention of“ grabbing oil ”from Russia. This is not only impossible, but also pointless (considering how much of its oil Russia drives to the West, and then at least a significant part of the money received from its sale). " - And from that sadness, sadness in my soul! And you?
    1. bairat
      bairat 15 February 2014 08: 28
      +4
      Quote: taseka
      And from that sadness, sadness in my soul! And you?

      Even more than sadness and sadness. I feel cheated, irreplaceable natural resources are leaving the country under patriotic chatter.
  14. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 15 February 2014 08: 24
    +3
    That is, all this hysteria can be reduced to two Western questions for Russia: why are you not obeying us and why are you scaring us ?!

    These "questions" are reminiscent of the "repentance" of mice from the children's cartoon about Leopold laughing
  15. oracul
    oracul 15 February 2014 08: 38
    +5
    Such articles are intended in a slightly veiled form to form an opinion about the need for rearmament, about pacifism, about tolerance that NATO (although the United States rules it) and Europe are weak and should not be feared. In fact, these are vultures who are ready to attack any country as soon as they come to the conclusion that there will be no rebuff.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 15 February 2014 08: 46
      +6
      Quote: oracul
      about pacifism

      oath in the army. one:
      -I will not swear!
      -why???
      pacifist!
      - Now I learn from the commander. ran the fly to the commander, returns and speaks in ear to this conscript:
      -the commander said, even though you are a pid ... races, you must take the oath
      1. major071
        major071 15 February 2014 09: 57
        +8
        Form No. 200
        Refer to a sovereign state: __________________________
        (enter the desired country)


        OFFICIAL APOLOGY

        We NATO leadership sincerely regret
        for damage / total destruction of your ________ in ____________
        (enter as necessary)
        We solemnly promise revenge ____________
        for our accidental / accurate hits on your __________
        (enter as necessary)
        even more targeted bombing.

        Date: ______ Signature: NATO

        Circulation: 500 copies
        -----------------------------------------------------------------
        The mailing list is attached.
  16. Igor39
    Igor39 15 February 2014 08: 42
    +5
    Dear Alexander Khramchikhin, if Russia updates its armaments, replacing the old with new ones and strengthens friendly countries, this does not mean that tomorrow we will attack them, let them not piss, they are just tilka for sebe, they won’t be tempted.
  17. Lyokha79
    Lyokha79 15 February 2014 08: 59
    +3
    Ah, here it is! NATO is white, fluffy and completely non-threatening! Hooray, comrades! We opened our eyes, otherwise we, so blinded, dark, thought that NATO was grinning at us, but it turned out that they were smiling so much.
    It follows from the article that we do not need to rearm the army and strengthen the defense capabilities of our country, but why, no one threatens us. According to Khramchikhin, it turns out that in the European armies there is one and a half digger, and the American missile defense, something like a slingshot.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum (If you want peace, prepare for war). So Mr. Khramchikhin, and nothing else.
  18. demel2
    demel2 15 February 2014 08: 59
    +4
    The article is complete nonsense, there’s nothing to discuss here, it’s not clear why this so-called exporter needs it? IMHO we have too many experts in politics, economics and in various fields, but the Arctic and the Far East are not populated by anyone; loafers per capita.
    1. PValery53
      PValery53 15 February 2014 13: 06
      0
      I agree: the number of idlers per capita in Russia should be reduced at least by 500 times. Otherwise, no matter where you spit, you will surely end up in some kind of parasite (parasite)! It is high time to force them to productive work! Citizens are parasites, officials, liberals, criminals and drunkards! Ah yes for surface grinding machines!
  19. awg75
    awg75 15 February 2014 09: 01
    +2
    how liberrasts got the articles similar to the author - give them free rein even a mother will be sold for a pair of silver coins ...
  20. dobrik10
    dobrik10 15 February 2014 09: 16
    +1
    That's when the NATO countries, absolutely everything, will shrink within their borders and listen more carefully to the opinions of the world community, then it may be worth changing their attitude to them.
    So, do we lie? We’ll see this, shit anywhere.
  21. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 15 February 2014 09: 53
    +2
    Quote: awg75
    how liberrasts got the articles similar to the author - give them free rein even a mother will be sold for a pair of silver coins ...

    They again blabber as in the 90s .. Russia was imposed in a circular .. War is coming soon!
  22. Avas2006
    Avas2006 15 February 2014 11: 16
    +1
    The article is another liberal order with a claim to objectivity. But the main thing is in plain sight - these "defenseless" NATO members have shown on the example of Iraq, Serbia, Libya what they can do with countries that are unable to defend themselves. And China is not very fluffy - it sharpens its claws.
  23. delfinN
    delfinN 15 February 2014 11: 17
    +2
    Also, the brain constantly endures GDP to them. They no longer know what to trust: eyes or ears.
  24. Kizhich
    Kizhich 15 February 2014 11: 24
    +1
    I read it in the morning and the mood soured for the whole day .... Here's how, by itself, an excerpt from the film "Brother 2", where Bodrov is in America, came to mind:

    I found out that I have a Great Country,
    And the path and the forest, in the field every spikelet,
    River, blue sky it's all mine - native
    I love everyone in the world, this is my motherland ......

    Well and further on the script ............
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 15 February 2014 11: 32
      +2
      I read it in the morning and the mood deteriorated all day


      Do not be upset - there are far more beautiful people and their good deeds in the world - we just don’t notice this and take it for granted.
      Military review is somewhat harsh for review and communication - which is what I like - it is always interesting to communicate with people who have their own point of view, even allowing them to take extreme forms.
  25. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 15 February 2014 11: 30
    +12
    When I communicate with my "Western colleagues" they directly radiate joy. It seems that the "duty" stuck forever from childhood, worked out "amiable" smile is intended for you. One just wants to "get led" to it, and they are conducting narrow-minded liberal slipshod. Remember this type of Foreign Minister Kozyrev? Remember how, as he left, he quietly mumbled on TV about the fact that the West is our friends and they only want the good of Russia, etc.? But you just have to get your "Western colleagues" drunk and spend time and a little money to bring them to their normal state - when the "duty amiable-friendly" smile slips from the face, then their "true" face immediately appears - a cold, calculating look, an undisguised hate for you. And when you ask what is the answer to you, "We hate Russia: for the fact that we were so afraid of it for so many years, for the fact that we thought that they drove you, with the help of the fifth column into the very village ... oh and you had to "grovel in the mud" for the rest of your life, and instead of that, you rise again, gain power, we hate you for being forced to buy gas, oil, etc. from you, we hate you for being forced to invite you to all assemblies, forums, are forced to reckon with your opinion, we hate you for the fact that you have such beautiful women, and we have "crocodiles", we hate you for the fact that you are not like us, we hate you for that you do what you want, but we cannot, we hate you, because .... because you, in general, exist. "
    Moreover, this hatred is so deep that you are simply amazed at it. They say that even if Communist Chinese lived on our territory, even that would be better for the "Europeans"! How!
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 15 February 2014 13: 16
      +1
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      we hate you because you have such beautiful women, and we have "crocodiles"

      there was nothing to arrange a witch hunt. all the red-haired men were led, dives
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 15 February 2014 13: 28
        +2
        Let them hate, the main thing is to be afraid smile
  26. Aleksandr65
    Aleksandr65 15 February 2014 11: 32
    +2
    Quote: "Unfortunately, there are too many such nonsense in the views of the parties at each other."
    And in my opinion, it is the author who, unfortunately, is raving. Does it make sense to remind him how we hastily fled from Europe in exchange for the non-expansion of NATO to the east and where is it now NATO? Or is there no ring around the base around Russia? And such examples are darkness. And the author knows this, but why then writes about delirium from Russia? Or is he original, trying to attract attention, or does he really think so? But in any case, this is unwise.
  27. SK12
    SK12 15 February 2014 11: 43
    0
    And I do not believe that the West is not our enemy! In the 90s there was a completely different attitude, but now let them go to shit - I won’t believe it!
  28. Leshka
    Leshka 15 February 2014 12: 01
    +1
    I know what is the reason for their financial crisis, they spend a lot of money on diapers laughing
  29. Cetegg
    Cetegg 15 February 2014 12: 07
    +2
    The author of the article, where are you taking such hallucinogens?!))))
  30. Waroc
    Waroc 15 February 2014 12: 44
    +2
    Exactly - we were already the first, and they sat down on our heads, their legs were almost overhanging, and then they were suddenly lowered to the ground and they don’t like it ... We can’t put us to sleep with such lullabies, enough, have slept!
  31. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 15 February 2014 13: 28
    +3
    "Do not believe their words, but believe their works" ...
    Yugoslavia, Libya, advancement to the East - and all under pleasant speeches about peace, friendship and blah, blah, blah ...
    Personally, I have one verdict regarding NATO: they are false and guilty of all the troubles on the continent!
    And in the words of a hero from one of the popular Soviet films I will say: “Take off your mask. You have fangs under it.” These TVs are spreading like locusts under peaceful slogans!
    And I will tell the author that one fine day, when the veil falls from his eyes and the deafness from his ears, he can see himself on his knees with his pants down and feel something here and there, coupled with the grins of some "African American" , patting on f ... e with the words: "You deserve it, slaves, to be treated like this." Then he will understand his true purpose.
  32. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 15 February 2014 13: 30
    +2
    during the day of Georgia’s attack on Ossetia, this zhurchchikhin stated that there would be no Georgian attack, that this was possible. so that citizen is a lie again.
  33. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 15 February 2014 14: 07
    +2
    The author of the article:
    We were already the first.

    God forbid, find the second.
    The Russian desire for the West in the first half of the 90s was no surrender

    The withdrawal of troops from Geyropa, the collapse of the USSR, the formation of an oligarchic formation ErEf with a constitution written by Western spies. What was that? BETRAYAL!
    There was a completely sincere desire to become part of the "civilized world" with which the West was identified.

    Do you remember the results of the referendum on the safety of the USSR? The West was identified then. and now it’s the same: ZAPADlo.
  34. homosum20
    homosum20 15 February 2014 14: 17
    +1
    First, Russia has only 2 allies: it is its Army and Navy.
    Secondly: if you don’t want to feed your army, you will feed someone else’s.
    And thirdly, aggressiveness is a biological trait of a person as a species, and it is aimed at strangers. Who is the stranger to the west than we are. That's the whole logic of attacks, if you drop the husk.
  35. Dimy4
    Dimy4 15 February 2014 14: 37
    +1
    but it doesn’t say that NATO is not our enemy, it is soberly said that no one is going to fight with us

    Naturally, their task (and a great desire) is for us to kill ourselves.
  36. alex-defensor
    alex-defensor 15 February 2014 14: 56
    0
    The author is right in almost everything, except for one thing, the ideological machine of the Western Elites is really dangerous for us. In fact, we are already losing the battle for youth. Teenagers 10-17 years old are more loyal to the stories of the Western social model. The very desire "To the West" would be reasonable (after all, we ourselves are an important part of Western civilization), if not for one thing! Obvious and unfortunately stable tendencies towards degradation and decomposition of Western society and the family, as its unit, on the basis of a perverted understanding of the role and degree of tolerance as a social regulator. Such changes have acquired an avalanche, and therefore uncontrollable character.
  37. parus2nik
    parus2nik 15 February 2014 15: 39
    0
    Anders Fogh Rasmussen does not believe in the peaceful nature of Russia's foreign policy ... NATO is a dove of peace .. laughing and expanding and expanding .. I remember at one time they said NATO will not expand .. there’s enough of those who are .. But no ... So far, only Ukraine, Belarus and Moldova are not NATO members .. And so almost everyone ..
  38. I think so
    I think so 15 February 2014 16: 22
    0
    No matter what rasmussen is balabolic, Russia needs to arm itself ... All the signs show that the West is preparing another Drang nach Osten. And as soon as their missile defense is ready, everything will begin ... soon ...
  39. Lukich
    Lukich 15 February 2014 18: 37
    +1
    He has been working at the Institute for Political and Military Analysis since its creation in January 1996 on the basis of the information-analytical service of the headquarters of the party "Our Home - Russia". Head of the analytical department of the institute, author and leading institute database on the political situation in the regions of Russia.
    Took from wikipedia ...

    ... what this says - just giving comments and plus or minus the article by Alexander Khramchikhin does not make sense - today we have sorcerers, analysts, academicians with diplomas of the intergalactic sample with natural seals, from the very center, to put it mildly very much ....
    ... Alexander Khramchikhin does not have a normal idea, he needs an idea, as the great combinator and grandmaster Ostap Ibrahimovic said, a fruitful opening idea .... And what, comrades, is an idea? An idea, comrades, is a human thought clothed in a logical chess form ...

    ... and Mr. Khramchikhin’s whole idea has been reduced to the issue of attitudes towards gays, the whole analysis of the situation has stopped at the level of the soldier’s belt - hence, they say rage, readiness and paranoia. An interesting such subtle psychobiological analysis of the geopolitical situation of the confrontation of Russia, Zap. Europe and the USA. You can say a very deep analysis ...
    ... Thank A.Kh reassured - let's start fucking like in Europe and the whole issue with the American missile defense will be resolved ... Why institutions, tanks and missiles ...

    ... reassured - NATO will not fight, it will simply carry out humanitarian bombing of our cities and that’s okay, because it’s well-intentioned, they’re not ready for war, they cry before the bombing and after ...

    ... do you really believe in what you have done or do you just have a "peculiar type of thinking" ...

    ... just "No Comment" ...
  40. razved
    razved 15 February 2014 22: 30
    0
    Amazing how Mr. Khrachikhin is fulfilling the NATO fee, constantly asserting that NATO is all so white and fluffy and that Russia doesn’t threaten Russia.
  41. Zamboy
    Zamboy 15 February 2014 23: 34
    0
    Quote: smel
    The author did not fall out of hibernation. He is awake. And slowly and slowly, it is participating in the deformation of our consciousness with respect to the absence of threats. Apparently he never read anything other than fairy tales, he never participated anywhere in hostilities. And if he knows and promotes pessimism and nonsense in the defense sphere, it means a specific enemy.
    Gunpowder must be kept dry. And do not forget that they respect the strong
    So minus the author. He needs to post his opuses on Echo of Moscow

    This author deserves attention, you can disagree with him, but he never promotes pessimism and indifference in the defense sphere, on the contrary, he always emphasizes that Russia needs a strong modern army. He also does not rule out the danger from NATO, he only considers it relatively low in comparison with the danger of China. That is, in any case, Khramchikhin certainly does not fit into the Echo of Moscow format.