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Slandered prosecutors. Who is guilty? - MASS MEDIA!

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Yury Chaika, the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation, recently told the legislators about the areas in which the rights of Russian citizens are most often violated, how many people received unfair sentences, and where the media should be restrained during the parliamentary hour. your informational fervor. So, about the dust ...


According to Yuri Chaika, the Russian media on the fact of the so-called gambling case (the case of prosecutors outside Moscow) launched a campaign that does not have a quote: nothing in common with the interests of justice. The Prosecutor General stated that he sees absolutely no reason to talk about the guilt of officials (such as the first deputy prosecutor of Moscow Region, Alexander Ignatenko, for example, the author’s note), whose names in the last 1,5 of the year appeared in the Russian media. Yuri Yakovlevich Chaika doesn’t see the reasons for this, because it turns out that prosecutors conducted as many 30 checks on those gambling halls (underground casinos) owned by Ivan Nazarov, who became notorious, and didn’t reveal any violations. And the media, as well as their readers (viewers, listeners) have to fully trust these checks, judging by the intonation of Yuri Chaika.

Slandered prosecutors. Who is guilty? - MASS MEDIA!


In order to understand whether to trust the information provided by some prosecutors on the fact of the “possible” commission of a corruption crime by other prosecutors, you can refer to the words of the prosecutor general himself expressed at the same parliamentary hour before the deputies. So, Chaika noted that from 2011 to 2013 years in Russia, the number of illegally convicted citizens was more than 14 thousand people. Namely - 14261 people. And they condemned these people because the mistakes of law enforcement officers allegedly manifested themselves.

By such a promise, Yuri Chaika actually makes it clear that to this number of illegal (“by mistake”) convicted citizens could be added several more completely innocent employees of the Moscow region prosecutor’s office. But with the “lawlessness” of 14261 once the failed law enforcement officers managed to cope with the auditors who work day and night - 30 checked the gambling halls of Ivan Nazarov once but didn’t find anything criminal and illegal.

Recall that the "gambling" (or "prosecutor") case was initiated back in 2011 year. According to the investigation, the entrepreneur Nazarov organized in the Moscow region a network of illegal casinos and gambling clubs (a total of 18 halls), from which he made impressive profits, using the patronage of prosecutors and representatives of law enforcement agencies. The patronage, as stated by the representatives of the investigating authorities, was carried out on a far from gratuitous basis. The photographs in which Nazarov holds parties with the presence of rejoicing at the lives of employees of the Moscow Region Prosecutor's Office, spread through the Russian (and not only, by the way, Russian) media. Nazarov was detained, and he began to give, shall we say, extensive accusatory testimony. The figures of the case were such prosecutors as mentioned already Alexander Ignatenko (his face very often "shone" in photographs with Nazarov), Vladimir Glebov and Roman Nimischenko. History with the departure of Ignatenko to “rest” in Poland immediately after the start of the investigation of this case, as well as with his thorny return to Russia at the “hot request” of the domestic side, made a lot of noise. However, later all the suspects were released from custody, and some of those suspects decided to strike back by declaring “to protect honor and dignity”: they say, in our respect all conceivable and inconceivable procedural sections were violated.

And, if we go back to the statements of the Prosecutor General, the “honor and dignity” of his subordinate colleagues suspected of corruption schemes may well be “restored” with a simultaneous injection to the investigating authorities and full rehabilitation of the slandered ... Yuri Seagull on the speech, stating that the criminal case of fraud was at one time opened without any reason ...

To summarize all the nuances outlined by the head of the GP of the Russian Federation, the situation is approximately the following: illegal gambling took place, underground casinos existed (and what does it mean, there are many of them even now in Mother Russia - author's note), but none of the prosecutors and representatives power structures, even despite the testimony of the business owner himself, did not enter into a corrupt connection with him. It turns out that the main culprits of what happened, except for the “mistaken” investigators, are the mass media. All of them, mean! .. Such people wanted to be discredited! .. They fanned out here, you know, out of the blue ...

If it were not for the media, the Russians would have slept quietly, not knowing about, undoubtedly, the false testimony of Nazarov from the first to the last letter. If it were not for the media, no one would see “just friendly” photos in which prosecutors drink almost brotherly with the owner of the illegal gambling business. Oh, and the media! - do not allow citizens to sleep peacefully –dirty provocateurs! ..

And Yuri Chaika told the deputies that it’s time to stop calling the nationality of criminals, because criminals have no nationality, and that the greatest number of violations of the rights of Russian citizens is observed in the housing sector ... For dessert, so to speak ...

By the way, if the Prosecutor General has information about how many citizens are “sitting” by mistake, then it is interesting, but how are things with statistics about how many “do not sit” by mistake, but should “sit” ...
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 14 February 2014 07: 10
    +19
    I wonder what they gave him for such comments ...
    1. Civil
      Civil 14 February 2014 07: 13
      +74
      Georgia ... Collective farm ... There is a meeting ...
      Speaker:
      - Comrades! The party decided to reward our collective farm with a valuable gift!
      Three Volga cars were sent to us. We need to separate them
      according to the merits of the working people. I make an offer: for
      sensitive guidance and planning to transfer one car
      to the chairman of our collective farm, that is, to me. Second car
      I propose to give it to my brother, deputy chairman,
      for taking care of the collective farmers. And finally, the last car I offer
      pass on to my son for the shock work. Any questions, objections?

      ... painful silence ... A lonely hand rises ...

      Chairman:
      “Please, comrade, but literally two words.”

      Comrade:
      - Maladets, b ....

      so we only have to say so in chorus.
    2. haron
      haron 14 February 2014 07: 17
      +9
      Quote: Igor39
      I wonder what they gave him for such comments ...

      Likely life ?!
      1. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 14 February 2014 16: 42
        +1
        Need to share!
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 February 2014 07: 31
      +42
      Quote: Igor39
      I wonder what they gave him for such comments ...

      Chair of the public prosecutor. I can say one thing and for sure, a warrior with corruption in our country will go on forever. And you’ll think that Ingnatenko had a fake passport, what’s so criminal laughing
      And Chaika himself, I feel he will die at his post, the ass is so stuck to the chair that you’ll tear it out of there.
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 14 February 2014 07: 37
        +8
        Yes, Alexander, probably so, Ignatenko probably knows more than they thought smile
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 14 February 2014 07: 41
          +7
          Quote: Igor39
          Ignatenko probably knows more than they thought

          Rather, he has more money than they thought.
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          2. Hon
            Hon 14 February 2014 08: 37
            +9
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Rather, he has more money than they thought.

            It's not about the money. After the separation of the IC into a separate department, competition began. The matter of principle for prosecutors is not to offend.
            1. neri73-r
              neri73-r 14 February 2014 09: 28
              +13
              And a matter of principle for the UK to bend the former bosses! There is no need to build illusions, here it’s not a fight with werewolves in uniform, but a fight between werewolves for a piece of cake! On the one hand, the SK and the FSB, on the other, prosecutors and the Ministry of Internal Affairs! And for the leaders of these departments (the prosecutor's office and the Investigative Committee), the benefit is to dump the competitor and pull the blanket (authority) over yourself and show the people (business) who is the boss! hi Something like this!
              1. Fox
                Fox 14 February 2014 09: 42
                +2
                Quote: neri73-r
                , with another prosecutor and the Ministry of Internal Affairs

                as far as I remember, ALWAYS with the prosecutor's office strained at the Ministry of Internal Affairs ...
                1. neri73-r
                  neri73-r 14 February 2014 11: 48
                  +2
                  Everything flows, everything changes! Nothing personal, just business! And at work (in the literal sense), everything was as it was.
              2. washi
                washi 14 February 2014 12: 16
                +5
                The prosecutor’s office controls the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Investigative Committee, the Moscow Region, given that most judges are from the prosecutor’s office, the prosecutor’s office controls everything.
                Moreover, judges and prosecutors in the usual manner may not be subjected to ordinary court proceedings.
                Even if the FSB or the Ministry of Internal Affairs accumulate something, then they need a court decision (where all of them are).
                It acted during the USSR, when folk the courts.
                This is not valid now. (indicator - trial of Budanov, Kryuchkov, Khodorkovsky, Pussics, etc.)
                Conclusion: another reform is needed (similar to 1939 when many of those who concocted leftist affairs were transplanted). Jurymen can replace the full-time judges (not gathered in small numbers, that is, bribed, but people gathered in a large hall (following the example of the Trotskyist processes), and voted directly in the courtroom (or via the Internet))
                1. neri73-r
                  neri73-r 14 February 2014 18: 28
                  0
                  Excuse me, Vasya, where did you get such knowledge? You have too raised the prosecutor’s office, which since the same year 1993 has been breaking everything, but breaking it, only thoughtlessly! And as far as the jury trial is concerned, this is generally babble, a person who has never encountered such a court! This is the most unfair trial that exists! And in our country, by its mentality, a court is needed, first of all, fair, and then legal! Do not rely on the people, no matter how you say the cook can not rule the state, she can not judge! For some reason, you would hardly have agreed to an operation (God forbid to get sick) if it had been performed by 12 people (of any profession), but not doctors! You can write a lot here, but this is a topic for another conversation!
            2. Fin
              Fin 14 February 2014 09: 39
              +12
              Quote: Hon
              It's not about the money. After the separation of the IC into a separate department, competition began. The matter of principle for prosecutors is not to offend.

              This also has a place to be, but far from the main thing. And considering which contingent is now coming to the trackers in the UK, it will not be difficult for experienced prosecutors and lawyers to ruin the case.
              Chaika's strange statement on Ignatenko's innocence. Even a schoolboy has a question: Why did he run away? "I could just say that they could not take ours by the balls because of the low qualifications of the pathfinders and my personal participation. It will be even more fun. The Unified State Exam gives the opportunity to enter and study for various" excellent students ", who will soon take up leading positions, so 14 thousand innocent convicts are flowers, and I have not heard what is being done to restore the rights of these convicts, who and how are punished for falsifications.
            3. calocha
              calocha 14 February 2014 09: 51
              +7
              True! Mutual responsibility! For a long time there was an octopus of judges, prosecutors and cops, for money, I mean a lot of money you can pay off the murder ... They say from 600 and the case is bye-bye ... Yes, and there was a few telecast Examples of such were shown, should be in kalonia, and he is at home ...
              1. cherkas.oe
                cherkas.oe 14 February 2014 11: 33
                +2
                Quote: calocha

                Reply

                And the police lieutenant colonel, who noticed this strangeness and began to unwind, was immediately fired along with several subordinates.
            4. alex popov
              alex popov 14 February 2014 14: 44
              +1
              Well, they would clean the ranks on their own. No one has yet canceled the car accident ... There is absolutely no trust in these bodies. Of course, the media and the UK are to blame (sarcasm, if that).
            5. vlrosch
              vlrosch 14 February 2014 15: 18
              0
              But the main thing is to smear the son of Chaika, who has been smeared in this matter by nowhere.
            6. vlrosch
              vlrosch 14 February 2014 15: 18
              0
              But the main thing is to smear the son of Chaika, who has been smeared in this matter by nowhere.
              1. genn57
                genn57 15 February 2014 16: 49
                0
                I agree basically the case is in the son who is in shit if you attract all the prosecutors they will drag and son
          3. Sosland
            Sosland 14 February 2014 11: 17
            +7
            So Serdyuk is now recognized as slandered and reinstated. Kuzhegetich will have to go back to the Ministry of Emergencies. Shadow Theater bl ** b.
          4. avg
            avg 14 February 2014 12: 13
            +1
            The poor fellow Chaika can’t cope with mathematics, for some reason Ignatenko’s expenses each time generate more income. They consider the whole prosecutor’s office - “1000 tons of water were poured into the pool, and 10 times more were scooped up ...” what
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 14 February 2014 07: 40
        +10
        Here the prosecutor’s office cannot cope with one SERDYUKOV, what can I say about myself like-both laughter and sin.
        1. Very old
          Very old 14 February 2014 08: 11
          +9
          Lech, and you did not say anything new: in Russia it has long been "a raven to a raven ..."

          You just recalled an old saying
      3. Tersky
        Tersky 14 February 2014 08: 32
        +15
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I can say one thing for sure, a warrior with corruption in our state will go on forever.

        Hello Sasha! I can say even more precisely: there is no war against corruption, it just can’t be. What we read in our media about the fight and the next victory is nothing more than a bluff, fraud and mouse fuss at the feeding trough. No one will ever declare war against himself beloved.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 14 February 2014 09: 19
          +13
          Quote: Tersky
          No one will ever declare war against himself beloved.

          There was something the other day, like they are going to introduce a forfeiture there, but what they will end up not understanding. sad
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 14 February 2014 11: 07
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            like they are going to introduce confiscation there, but what they will end up not understanding.

            Here, here, in Russia, what the finals do not undertake is known - "the results are incomprehensible."
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            sick of me from Chaika and our entire prosecutor’s office
            not only you have gagging, judging by the reaction to the "cases" prosecutors in Russia, mass poisoning laughing
          2. Ivan Petrovich
            Ivan Petrovich 14 February 2014 14: 40
            +2
            and so, again ... in this way Putin V.V. gull or not? who's bothering? or maybe it’s not touching her? and where does the party live?
            and if you feel sick, then from the highest official?
      4. Ivan Petrovich
        Ivan Petrovich 14 February 2014 09: 58
        +1
        and what do you think, in the power of Putin V.V. do it? that is, pick up. Or can he not or does not want this? and where is the party PZHIV?
      5. smel
        smel 14 February 2014 10: 03
        +2
        How much fate has helped me through the vastness of the country, - perhaps there is no place, no matter where. But with all this, I never met a decent prosecutor with whom it would not be embarrassing to drink 100 grams. Apparently no luck in life !!!
        1. Ivan Petrovich
          Ivan Petrovich 14 February 2014 10: 11
          0
          and we had such, Bolshakov’s surname, current under the Soviet regime yet. He earned himself a 5 by 6m hut and lived with two children.
          From the works of the righteous, you cannot make stone chambers.
      6. dark_65
        dark_65 16 February 2014 07: 45
        0
        you can’t get him out of there .. in fact, his son is involved
    4. Magadan
      Magadan 14 February 2014 08: 58
      +10
      It’s especially sweet how he began to nod at the housing and communal services. Like, where's the real mess. It was also necessary to mention the US State Department, and at the same time the Russian Ski Federation for the failed Olympics.
      1. Ivan Petrovich
        Ivan Petrovich 14 February 2014 14: 41
        +2
        Well, we are not supposed to touch the loafers of the Olympians. Sacred Cows ...
    5. salomeeff
      salomeeff 14 February 2014 09: 45
      +2
      The castle on the Cote d'Azur and the inviolability of the son’s business.
    6. AVV
      AVV 14 February 2014 10: 25
      +8
      Quote: Igor39
      I wonder what they gave him for such comments ...

      It is necessary to conduct a parliamentary investigation in relation to Chaika, because he defends prosecutors, outlaws himself !!! Sicily is resting !!!
    7. starshina78
      starshina78 14 February 2014 13: 01
      +3
      Hand washes a hand!
    8. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. 14 February 2014 16: 42
      0
      Instead of putting things in order in his department, he is engaged in Baltalogy and this is the Prosecutor General, it’s a shame if these casinos were why the prosecutor’s office didn’t become a shooter of their closure, this is already a violation of the law on the prosecutor’s office. The main principle of the law enforcement system is prevention, and we have the prosecutor will not scratch the thunderbolt instead of thunder. Instead of blaming others, you need to look at yourself and your department, check all your prosecutors for real estate, the business of immediate relatives only in these positions our prosecutor’s office can close. As the people say, what is the pop, such is the parish, it is insulting and embarrassing.
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    10. siberalt
      siberalt 14 February 2014 17: 26
      +1
      The Prosecutor General's salary was increased from September 1 to 500000 rubles. The prosecutorial "plowmen" were generally hacked to death by an already signed presidential decree in January 2013.
      As for the illegally "imprisoned", the figure given by the prosecutor can be safely multiplied by ten.
    11. Siberian German
      Siberian German 15 February 2014 06: 20
      0
      Yes, and our president is silent and silent - the situevinka as they say the lower classes no longer want and the upper circles can’t damn
    12. APASUS
      APASUS 15 February 2014 10: 10
      0
      Quote: Igor39
      I wonder what they gave him for such comments ...

      Eeeh offend yes!
      Why are you angry, take my dear. I helped me, I helped.
  2. Alex66
    Alex66 14 February 2014 07: 20
    +17
    We are waiting for Serdyukasilieva’s excuse that the seagull will come up this time. That he does not understand all the wretchedness of his fabrications, it would be better if he were silent for the clever one.
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 14 February 2014 09: 31
      +2
      And with Chaika here, here Bastrykin can’t decide whether Serdyukov has committed a crime, whether to arrest Vasiliev, how long does she have to spend time in a room apartment .......... Do not confuse flies and cutlets! The seagull is still good ....., the matter is in the investigation!
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 14 February 2014 17: 32
        +1
        But who will let Bastrykin decide on the qualifications if the prosecutor cancels his decision to proceed with the case? Those. "knits hands", not allowing investigative actions.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 14 February 2014 18: 30
          0
          Yes, well, and Bastrykin is afraid to say about it ????? Funny, after the gambling business!
  3. Kazakh
    Kazakh 14 February 2014 07: 27
    +17
    And Yuri Chaika told the deputies that it’s time for the media to stop calling the nationality of the criminals, because the criminals have no nationality,
    The criminals have no nationality of sexual characteristics, there are no special signs and nothing at all, and there is nothing to do. There are deceived and slandered people (sbbyukov and many others with clean eyes) well done seagull. All corruption comes only from traffic cops of doctors and teachers
  4. bear
    bear 14 February 2014 07: 30
    +11
    how many mistakenly "do not sit", but should "sit"?

    won’t justify Serdyuk, want a new position, soon the medals will begin to serve.
    Stole from the Russian state get a medal;
    It seems that justice does not exist at all.
  5. predator.3
    predator.3 14 February 2014 07: 41
    +19
    In the spring of 1999, Artem Chaika first came to the attention of the press. On March 9, 1999, on Rublevo-Uspenskoe highway, as a result of a special operation, a Doninvest-Kondor car belonging to his father, then the first deputy prosecutor general of the Russian Federation, was detained, in which there were two Ingush: Ibragim Yevloyev and Khunkar Chumakov. They had a power of attorney for this car, issued by Artem Chaika for one year, and a special passport prohibiting its inspection. A revolver, a grenade and heroin were also found in the car. In the media, Chumakov and Yevloyev were called friends and guards of Artem Chaika. In this car they were engaged in racketeering in the suburbs. During the arrest, Chumakov and Yevloyev offered the police officers to settle the case by telephone with the son of the Deputy Prosecutor General. During the trial, Artem Chaika acted as a witness, even tried to provide an alibi for Yevloyev to protect him from racketeering charges, and claimed that he had given him a car so that he could go after his young son.

    In February 2011, businessman Ivan Nazarov was arrested on suspicion of organizing a network of underground casinos in the Moscow region. Soon after, it became clear that Nazarov maintained close relations with the local prosecutor's office, including the prosecutor of the Moscow region, Alexander Mokhov, and his deputy, Alexander Ignatenko. The prosecutor's office has repeatedly canceled the criminal cases initiated by the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation against Nazarov, and this was done with the approval of the Prosecutor General Yuri Chaika. On March 30, 2011, during the investigation of the second criminal case against Nazarov, the testimony of a witness was announced, whose name was classified by the investigation. According to this testimony, the coordinators between Nazarov and the prosecutor's office were "the people of Artyom Chaika"

    http://lenta.ru/lib/14168093
    how warm, no comment!
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 14 February 2014 08: 49
      +12
      It seems to me that it is necessary to initiate the collection of signatures on the Internet with the request for the resignation of Chaika. At least so for a start. And never, NEVER, forget this topic with prosecutor’s b-guys!
      1. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 14 February 2014 10: 13
        +4
        Quote: Magadan
        It seems to me that it is necessary to initiate the collection of signatures on the Internet with the request for the resignation of Chaika.

        too many initiatives are recruited, maybe right away for observing the law and the constitution, then what does the guarantor do?
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      3. siberalt
        siberalt 14 February 2014 17: 35
        +2
        So for that he was pulled out with a report to decide. Prosecutors were waiting for him to be removed before the new year.
    2. Lomikus
      Lomikus 14 February 2014 09: 14
      +4
      If sin is in power, sin will be everywhere (not verbatim, from the Bible)
  6. major071
    major071 14 February 2014 07: 45
    +12
    it’s interesting, but how are things with statistics about how many people mistakenly “don’t sit”, but should “sit” ...

    There are no such people in Russia! fool There are those who have been "undeservedly" slandered by the media and the people. laughing It is necessary to pity them, "undeservedly slandered", especially if the Attorney General speaks, and he will not speak in vain! wassat And then you attacked here you understand the prosecutor's office for gambling, and everything is clean there! This is their job, grab money and cover each other! laughing
  7. andrey903
    andrey903 14 February 2014 07: 45
    +3
    For some time Ignatenko was the prosecutor of Krasnogorsk, almost no one knew his face, he was only concerned with his own affairs. In this story there is still the son of a seagull
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 14 February 2014 17: 41
      +2
      Heard. At that time, an unprecedented sale of land plots and the disbandment of municipal defense facilities took place in the Krasnogorsk district.
  8. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 14 February 2014 07: 52
    +12
    So we waited for a "bright day": Mr. Chaika finally explained to us the essence of the "gambling" business - the media are to blame for everything (and why they are not meddling in their own business) and they hinted to us stupid that more than 14 thousand in the country are innocent convicted and this list can be replenished with very zealous whistleblowers! In short, Chaika made it clear that they are not going to surrender theirs! Well, we do not have Gleb Zheglov with his catchphrase: "A thief should be in prison!" and point. As one of the heroes of Mikhail Boyarsky said: “This country will be destroyed by corruption” (if it has not already)! And one of the Russian questions arises before us - What to do?
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 14 February 2014 09: 21
      +5
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      ": Mr. Chaika finally explained to us the essence of the" gambling "business

      The seagull is a "high-flying bird". laughing
  9. treskoed
    treskoed 14 February 2014 07: 54
    +8
    Serdyukov, The Seagull - ..... all God's dew !!!!! Shame lost!
    1. predator.3
      predator.3 14 February 2014 08: 39
      +5
      Quote: treskoed
      Serdyukov, The Seagull - ..... all God's dew !!!!! Shame lost!


      Today it was announced that Tolyan's case is already close to completion and will be brought to court in the 1st quarter of this year! but there will be no parliamentary hearings on this case (the initiator of the Communist Party), other "servants of the people" did not support it.
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      2. treskoed
        treskoed 14 February 2014 09: 19
        +4


        Today it was announced that Tolyan's case is already close to completion and will be brought to court in the 1st quarter of this year! but there will be no parliamentary hearings on this case (the initiator of the Communist Party), other "servants of the people" did not support it.


        With such "law enforcement officers" I do not exclude that Tolyan will receive compensation for the forced absenteeism and moral damage to his "purest" reputation!
      3. Mstislav
        Mstislav 14 February 2014 13: 24
        +1
        So after all, everyone understands that the furniture maker is bzdun, will merge all patrons with giblets if they really shake him. And the patrons themselves know who. Therefore, they do not surrender it.
  10. starhina01
    starhina01 14 February 2014 07: 55
    +3
    impudence has crossed all borders angry P.S. Stalin is not on them hi
  11. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 14 February 2014 08: 07
    +1
    Impudence and impunity, that’s the answer to all the questions ... But lawmakers look at all the outrages perpetrated by the prosecutors with Olympic calmness. It would seem simpler to introduce liability (of course, criminal) for law enforcement officers of all levels for innocently convicted, and for convicted prisoners on triple orders, up to a lifetime! Maybe such a statement of the question will make them think?
  12. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 14 February 2014 08: 08
    +2
    They all stand each other, to transplant both of them, there will be more order.
  13. rodiy2007
    rodiy2007 14 February 2014 08: 09
    +7
    What kind of respect and support can we talk about if the prosecutor's office itself contributes to the concealment of crimes, and so brazenly openly. Understand and punish all those involved, otherwise this is "pure water" discrediting, in general, as such! angry
  14. Berimor 2
    Berimor 2 14 February 2014 08: 15
    +4
    And such people stand with us to protect the interests of the state.
  15. Horn
    Horn 14 February 2014 08: 27
    +10
    Can you imagine how the "Negroes" writing the prosecutor's speech sweated, turning everything upside down ?! This is hard labor: to wash a black dog white!
  16. andrey903
    andrey903 14 February 2014 08: 39
    +1
    It is also incorrect to name the position of the offender, gender, orientation
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 14 February 2014 17: 45
      +1
      Do not indicate the sex of the offender, it means to consider that the crime was committed by a Russian (i.e., Russian)
  17. Magadan
    Magadan 14 February 2014 08: 41
    +11
    What else is there to add? In my opinion, the fact that it is turned inside out is obvious to the last optimist: those in power, called the "elite," built two different rights $$ udiya - one for us, "bydlomass" and the other for them. Under this same and their culprits are composed, which, as you like and turn. But our court is beyond judgment, for it is "independent of them." The judge will justify you for nothing, and nothing will happen to him. Or, on the contrary, you will be killed “by accident,” and nothing will happen to the killer. As, for example, in Novy Urengoy, there was no one Marat Kuliev, the son of the rich man there, Yakub Kuliev, who did not like the elderly veteran of Afghanistan, he attacked him from behind, hit him, and the man fell unsuccessfully with his head on the tile. He died without regaining consciousness. Kuliev was sentenced to 1 YEAR AND 9 MONTHS CONDITIONLY. He "accidentally killed." Mirzoyev is resting here. If someone has not watched the Law, read here http://www.1tv.ru/sprojects_edition/si21/fi28606
    The question is - what should we do with you? So turn into bydlomass? Or wait until we have completely blown away the roof from this lawlessness and then the maidanuts with Libyan rats will seem to everyone just young naturalists? And will the scum-henchmen of the State Department take advantage of the fruits of such a "revolution"?
    Or will we still figure out how to stop this, and scum Ylitarians will forever discourage us from stealing and killing us with impunity?
    1. Lomikus
      Lomikus 14 February 2014 09: 33
      +10
      Is it not by chance that such a "legal order" is defended by Yuri Chaika:
      ""CONCEPTS. Basic law of the Russian Federation"
      Article 1. Strong can do anything. All power in the country belongs to the strong, the power of the strong cannot be limited by anything but power.
      Article 2. The law exists for the weak. The weak are required to comply with laws that are written by the strong. The strong are not required to comply with the laws that they write for the weak.
      Article 3. Strong is not equal to weak. The strong is always to blame for the weak. For the strong, the presumption of innocence applies.
      Article 4. The strong have rights, the weak have duties. Strong can break the law. The weak can also break the law, but only in individual cases and if this does not harm the strong.
      Article 5. The strong can not abuse their rights in relation to the stronger than themselves. If a strong abused the right to a stronger one than himself, he is considered weak and the law applies to him.
      Article 6. No strong person can be held accountable for the crime that he committed, unless he violated the right of a stronger one than himself.
      Article 7. The weak can be held accountable for the crimes they have committed, for crimes that the strong have committed, and even for crimes that no one has committed at all
      Article 8. The weak is not entitled to protection from the strong. The weak is strong towards the weaker than he is. Trying to protect the weak from the strong is a crime.
      Article 9. The property belongs to the strong. Strengths own property with the once-decision of the strongest. The weak are obliged to give their property to the strong at its first request. The right of the strong to the property of the weak is protected by the state.
    2. Lomikus
      Lomikus 14 February 2014 09: 34
      +2
      Article 10. Strong citizens have real citizenship. Strong are born from the strong, or become strong due to kinship or acquaintance, as well as in the case of recognition of such others as strong.
      Article 11. Disputes between the strong are resolved by concepts. Concepts have the power of tradition. Concepts above laws. If the concepts and laws contradict each other, the laws are applied in that part in which they do not contradict the concepts.
      Article 12. The power of the strong is from God. The monopoly right to explain why the powerful should have power belongs to the Church. The church belongs to the strong - along with the state. The weak should go to church.
      Article 13. The strongest are led by the strongest. The strongest is not elected and not appointed, but self-determined. Elections are necessary so that a previously known result looks plausible.
      Article 14. Strengths in the field themselves are managed with the weak. Some strengths do not interfere in the affairs of other strengths, if decency is respected. Intervention in the affairs of other strengths is allowed to the extent necessary to restore decency. While the strong understand each other, the weak must be silent.
      Article 15. The right of the strong extends to the entire territory of the country. The weak can move out if they have time. Who did not have time, he was late.
      Article 16. The laws of the strong are valid until the weak themselves become strong
      * * *
      authorship is attributed to VB Pastukhov, a professor at Oxford University. In addition, Vladimir Borisovich Pastukhov (born 1963) is a member of the Moscow City Bar Association and the International Bar Association, a member of the Development Council of the Government of Moscow, an adviser to the chairman of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation:
      http://fdadvisory.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33:vladimirpa

      stukhov & catid = 18: team.
      If the authorship of the “constitution by concepts” actually belongs to him, then this means that representatives of the “elite” of the Russian legal community are aware of what “order” really operates in the country, and he is quite satisfied with them, since the punishment for adherence to it is so rare , what this kind of cases do not remember. "*
      --------------
      * Quote from "ANALYTICAL NOTE. Fundamentals of jurisprudence:" legal plague "in Russia - we will cure" http://www.kpe.ru/sobytiya-i-mneniya/ocenka-tendencii-s-pozicii-kob/4501-grundla

      gen-des-rechts-gesetz-pest-in-russland-heilung
      1. calocha
        calocha 14 February 2014 09: 58
        0
        This is some kind of Criminal Code of Ukraine ...
  18. Gora66
    Gora66 14 February 2014 08: 42
    +1
    I propose that all ministries be removed from Moscow, for example, to Yakutsk or Salekhard (and deputies, too, think better in the open air and there are less temptations).
  19. Mviktor
    Mviktor 14 February 2014 08: 51
    +5
    Quote: treskoed
    Serdyukov, The Seagull - ..... all God's dew !!!!! Shame lost!


    To send all to hell so brazenly, you need to have an armor-piercing roof, and who is Seagull's employer? Or is he holding this employer for eggs
  20. VadimSt
    VadimSt 14 February 2014 08: 53
    +2
    Either a lawyer or a defender. Some paint, others paint. The judicial and supervisory system has long gone hand in hand, and very often, not at all in the name of justice. They act on the principle that time will write off everything. They will give the "suspect" to sit out, somewhere behind a bump or other place, and then, little by little, they begin to return him to an active life. These cockroaches, alas, cannot be brought out!
  21. cat 1970
    cat 1970 14 February 2014 08: 54
    +3
    Another - all are to blame, except for the prosecutor's office .... But there is a pearl:

    "And Yuri Chaika also told the deputies that it is time for the media to stop naming the nationalities of the criminals, because the criminals have no nationality, and that the greatest number of violations of the rights of Russian citizens is observed in the housing and utilities sector ... For dessert, so to speak ..."

    Uh, one hears how they (the people) are sick of their migrant tension, because the analysis of all kinds of interethnic conflicts, etc., is so bad for the statistics and image, and how good it will be to take bribes from the diasporas if everything is covered-up .... Yeah, CONTINUOUS JUSTICE. Previously, the police and the army were kicked by everyone, but now housing and communal services is fashionable.
  22. aleks2007
    aleks2007 14 February 2014 09: 06
    +8
    There are many underground casinos throughout the Moscow region. 3-10 for each city. They are periodically “covered”, but after a few days they “rise from the ashes”. Are they changing the roof? But people around can see everything! I do not believe that they exist without the roof of the local prosecutor's office. It doesn't happen !!!!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 February 2014 09: 22
      +2
      Quote: aleks2007
      ", but after a few days they" rise from the ashes. "Are they changing the roof?

      If they open on a new one, then the roof is good, and all these reids for the report are about to work.
  23. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 14 February 2014 09: 22
    +1
    And Yuri Chaika told the deputies that it was time for the media to stop calling the nationality of the criminals, because the criminals did not have a nationality, and that the largest number of violations of the rights of Russian citizens was observed in the housing and communal services sector ...

    Arrows decided to translate!
  24. morpogr
    morpogr 14 February 2014 09: 23
    +6
    With this speech, he only further damaged the reputation of the prosecutor's office.
  25. servant.
    servant. 14 February 2014 09: 31
    +5
    Shame !!! No one expected from the Poles, but they also extradited Ignatenko as a criminal, and for the general he was slandered with a false passport accidentally in his pocket? !!!!
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 14 February 2014 13: 22
      +1
      Quote: serviceman.
      Shame !!! No one expected from the Poles, but they also extradited Ignatenko as a criminal, and for the general he was slandered with a false passport accidentally in his pocket? !!!!

      The USA gave us Jap, supposedly to punish him for the murder. They fought for him for a long time, as a result, after the transfer, Jap was released. So here it is ...
  26. demotivator
    demotivator 14 February 2014 09: 32
    +1
    prosecutors conducted as many as 30 inspections of those same gaming halls (underground casinos) owned by Ivan Nazarov, who became notorious, and did not reveal any violations. And the media, as well as their readers (viewers, listeners) should, based on the intonation of Yuri Chaika, have to fully trust these checks.

    We checked and did not reveal any violations. Despite the fact that the casino is underground! Gives to Seagull! When, finally, will we have prosecutors?
    1. dmb
      dmb 14 February 2014 10: 57
      +4
      Then when there are judges, prime ministers and presidents. You need to start from the last.
  27. pv1005
    pv1005 14 February 2014 09: 33
    +4
    Chaika noted that from 2011 to 2013 in Russia the number of convicted illegally citizens amounted to more than 14 thousand people. Namely - 14261 people. And they condemned these people due to the fact that the mistakes of law enforcement officers allegedly showed themselves.

    There are several questions on this quote:
    - Who supported the prosecution in the trials? Isn't the prosecutor’s office?
    - Is the prosecutor's office not a law enforcement agency?
    - More than 14 thousand errors (13 convicts every day without days off) were made by one prosecutor or a couple of thousand of them?
    - Isn't it time to resign after such revelations?
  28. pliev78
    pliev78 14 February 2014 09: 34
    +3
    They consider the people for sheep! I would have planted him to improve society.
  29. lukke
    lukke 14 February 2014 09: 38
    +2
    With prosecutors, it’s more or less clear, crystal-honest guys. But I’m still interested in this question:
    Chaika noted that from 2011 to 2013 in Russia the number of convicted illegally citizens amounted to more than 14 thousand people. Namely - 14261 people
    At least one judge has been punished for a wrong sentence? Maybe they would put a dozen or two judges - would the quality of the approach to this issue improve? Caste untouchable Mlyn.
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 14 February 2014 11: 06
      +1
      we, unfortunately, are only sentenced for knowingly unjust sentences. That is, when the judge completely knows that the defendant is innocent, but he condemns him anyway. And you’ll prove that.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 14 February 2014 17: 52
      +2
      Judges are not jurisdictional. They only copy from the flash drive in the case the operative part of the indictment into their installation and add their final: in the name of the Russian Federation, the court decided ...! In our country, the court is fully digitized, as is the consciousness of the judges. That is the system.
  30. rozowik
    rozowik 14 February 2014 09: 40
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov

    Chair of the public prosecutor. I can say one thing for sure, a warrior with corruption in our state will go on forever.

    How can you fight with yourself? laughing
    I would call it "imitation of violent activity" wassat
  31. kind
    kind 14 February 2014 09: 41
    +2
    If the crime is elevated to the rank of law, then there will be no corpus delicti - all within the framework of the law. request
  32. Horla
    Horla 14 February 2014 09: 55
    +3
    The raven will not peck out the crow's eye! The seagull told the deputies, and the deputies believed. Do you know why? Russia is the only country in the world where the most thieves with parliamentary immunity.
  33. Eugeniy_369k
    Eugeniy_369k 14 February 2014 10: 09
    +5
    All the comments are full of righteous anger and demands such as "Stalin's not on them ...", "to put all the nafig ...", etc. What's the point? I know one guy, he got behind the wheel drunk and his friend got in touch with him, they flew into a ditch, my friend was a little wounded by the car because he was not fastened and flew out. Received an injury. They brought him in an ambulance, a drunk doctor cut him up so that when he got to a sober doctor, he sewed it for 4 hours, and then in intensive care for 3 weeks he lay a hair's breadth from the other world and who brought more harm than drunk in a dressing gown or a blow from a car was not installed. But this is a prelude wink . At trial, the driver was slapped with 1,5 years of settlements for grievous bodily harm (a lawyer was appointed, a former prosecutor, in short laughing ), the victim had no complaints (friends). His mother found a sane lawyer for the last penny (not a former prosecutor, police officer, judge). When the lawyer read the case, he got a little dumb belay . He was concerned about this, the drunk driver, too, but also the killer - two pedestrians to death. 2 years of settlements, so there the relatives wanted to punish the killer. Drunk at the wheel of a criminal this is clear, and I do not whitewash him and he must bear what he deserves but only two corpses - one victim who has no claims is not an equal sign. "And the casket just opened ...." My acquaintance has one mother, a pensioner, he is an ordinary provincial guy, it was on New Year's Eve, the prosecutor's wand was not enough .... and then "you trembling" turned up ... affairs on the periphery. hi
  34. sssla
    sssla 14 February 2014 10: 13
    +3
    prosecutors conducted as many as 30 inspections of those same gaming halls (underground casinos) owned by Ivan Nazarov, who became notorious, and did not reveal any violations.It’s sad to read this. They hold chewing gum for all suckers. Yes, and they themselves pro hang on the noodles. It’s not surprising that the West rolls the barrel in our direction without fear when we protect such a Motherland
  35. Hey
    Hey 14 February 2014 10: 18
    +3
    In my opinion, regarding this department and its superiors, against the background of such statements, the head of state should say his weighty word.
  36. Stinger
    Stinger 14 February 2014 10: 22
    +1
    It would not hurt the media to go through the real estate of mistaken prosecutors and those who have not had time to make a mistake and compare its value with salaries. My heart feels that seagulls feed on fish caught in a protected reservoir. But the speech is good. We work well, we would work even better if the population did not bother us. Pancake!
  37. Vadim12
    Vadim12 14 February 2014 10: 26
    +2
    This is such a clear nonsense to carry, that you have to be either a complete fool, or a very strong-willed person who was forced to say this (with big money).
  38. demotivator
    demotivator 14 February 2014 10: 47
    +2
    And Yuri Chaika told the deputies that it was time for the media to stop calling the nationality of the criminals, because the criminals have no nationality

    Controversial statement. But it is clear why the Seagull adheres to it. At one time, like these prosecutors near Moscow, Chaika himself remained unpunished, both when his last name appeared in criminal cases, and when Ingush gangsters-racketeers Yevloyev and Chumakov were found in his company car, which he provided to his beloved son, Artyom, together with weapons and drugs. Father and son Seagulls from this story then got out, as if nothing had happened.
  39. TeaOK
    TeaOK 14 February 2014 11: 01
    +1
    Damn, I just woke up and here you’ve been charged all day (negative, there’s a way out, vintar, a lot of patience and wisely choose a position for a shot, I think it’s not possible otherwise, to demand from the authorities to close the serdyukovy, vasilyevye, and other gulls is equivalent to that to ask the dog to bite off one of its paws.
  40. Mikado
    Mikado 14 February 2014 11: 03
    +8
    I would like to see the face of this Seagull when she hears her sentence
  41. assam4
    assam4 14 February 2014 11: 25
    +1
    You can’t transplant all corrupt officials, there willn’t be enough prisons. They have divorced too much.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 14 February 2014 11: 38
      +13
      ] Judge Irina Lewandovskaya [/ Center][/ Center]
      The appearance of our law enforcement officers! Edika (Edie) Lyalina is an employee of the press service of the Moscow Central Internal Affairs Directorate.
    2. washi
      washi 14 February 2014 11: 52
      +1
      Quote: assam4
      You can’t transplant all corrupt officials, there willn’t be enough prisons. They have divorced too much.

      Start with yourself. Do not give bribes.
      I never and to whom.
      It all starts small. In the beginning a bribe, and then you will give an ass. (After all, if you believe the media and some citizens from the site, then ALL ped..ki is in power).
  42. Begemot
    Begemot 14 February 2014 11: 36
    +2
    They do not cease to consider us idiots.
  43. washi
    washi 14 February 2014 11: 47
    0
    By the way, if the Prosecutor General has information about how many citizens are “sitting” by mistake, then it is interesting, but how are things with statistics about how many “do not sit” by mistake, but should “sit” ...
    I liked it.
    You can plant, or prosecute, many of those who have a lot of money. So they act as sponsors when the state does not have enough finances. And they are pretending to be doing everything at their enterprises under the law.
    To calm the people, they must all be imprisoned. On the other hand, competent managers are needed. So we have to spin GDP. (Abramovich is still remembered with gratitude in Chukotka)
  44. Simonov
    Simonov 14 February 2014 12: 07
    +7
    There is an opinion at the end of the Olympiad to transfer sports facilities to the casino. And where to get competent managers, managers of the gambling business, and even with experience? Yes there they are! White fluffy honest prosecutors!
  45. Magyar
    Magyar 14 February 2014 12: 22
    0
    In truth. Laughter through tears. What else can I say.
  46. demotivator
    demotivator 14 February 2014 12: 32
    +1
    Quote: Vasya
    Start with yourself.

    Wrong, Vasya. You need to start with bribe takers. Everything is evil from them.
  47. ed65b
    ed65b 14 February 2014 13: 14
    +3
    While still in Irkutsk, the seagull had completely grown together with the group of Alpha, Pasha Aven and the Chechens, protected them in full and helped to bankrupt the tea factory. Here we have the prosecutor general.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 14 February 2014 13: 33
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      While still in Irkutsk, the seagull had completely grown together with the group of Alpha, Pasha Aven and the Chechens, protected them in full and helped to bankrupt the tea factory. Here we have the prosecutor general.

      Well ... a big ship, so to speak, a big place ...
      Honestly, it is surprising that all these facts still surprise someone. From the very beginning of the prosecutorial hype, I had an opinion that this would not end in anything, in a couple of years the Serdyukov case would also end. But what is most surprising is that any protest against the criminal government (no matter where, in Russia, Ukraine, in Syria) by local commentators is perceived as a terrible crime ...
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 14 February 2014 14: 28
        0
        Quote: Nayhas
        But what is most surprising is that any protest against the criminal government (no matter where, in Russia, Ukraine, in Syria) by local commentators is perceived as a terrible crime ...

        The people of Eugene are not against the protest, the people against those who will lead this protest and you yourself understand who will lead it. the same eggs only in profile. That's why it's sad.
  48. vvp2412
    vvp2412 14 February 2014 13: 25
    +3
    Hand washes a hand. Those. Since the Seagull covers those who are in business, it means that he is in business!
    The iPhone covers not only Serdyukov with his lover, but also the Seagull. Because it was he who, in 2011, communicated together with Bastrykin and Chaika, and asked that the media not give information about the leadership. And then the topic with his son Chaika hushed up!
    When will they all be thrown out by a filthy broom ?! How they got it! Parasites of society!
  49. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 14 February 2014 13: 29
    0
    However, curious.
  50. Megatron
    Megatron 14 February 2014 13: 40
    0
    I remember this matter very well. The press covered every step. When, when the strings were brought to Seagull, Bastrykin with the folder went to the Kremlin, then he came back, and that’s all. Even the newspapers stopped writing, all as one, as they got water in their mouths. And the case stumbled and stalled out of the blue. What does it mean, what do you think?
    Here, as with the fat-faced Serdyukov, they gave the command, "do not touch."