The king is gone. Long live the king!

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The king is gone. Long live the king!


Evgeni Plushenko was unable to continue his performance at the Olympics.

Several times the operated spine did not allow him to do this.

In general, the appearance of Eugene at the Olympics is worthy of not only respect, but of royal honors. This is true patriotism. After all, he did not go for a medal, prizes and respect. All this in his abundance. One side. And on the other hand, he could end every jump with a disabled person who was chained to a wheelchair at best. However, he went on the ice.

It is no secret that, to put it mildly, there is no success in this form of figure skating in our country.

FM-2013
Maxim Kovtun - 17 place.

EURO-2014
Maxim Kovtun - 5 place.

Obviously, it was necessary to somehow save the situation. And Eugene did what few did in his place. He started anew training and went on the ice. And trampled Chan. And contributed to the command "gold". The first "gold" of Russia at the Olympics. The act of a man, a citizen, a fighter. For me personally, this is akin to entering the tank with the last grenade. There is no war, but we were all for Plushenko. Whole country. And, a person who is so risky in the name of the prestige of his country is worthy of not only respect. It is unlikely that we will be able to assess what it cost him two performances in team competitions. But - are required.

Yevgeny, thank you, thank you for your pain in a twisted back, for the first “gold” for the country, for your heroism.

Everyone who has seen it, and who is able to understand and appreciate it, we all say thank you to you. May God grant you health and long life. You are the king of this Olympiad.

The king is not the one with the most medals. This is the one who can act like a king. In accordance with the conscience, honor and dignity.

Long live the King Plushenko! And thanks again from all of us.
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  1. Berimor 2
    -36
    14 February 2014 06: 43
    The Olympic disgrace of Russia!
    1. +48
      14 February 2014 06: 50
      I want to object to you! The athlete may have expected to perform and win. He's cocked, that's fine. But this is where the trainers, doctors looked !!! They that did not see the condition of the athlete? So what kind of specialists are they then? Although Kovtun would not have won, he would have gained such necessary experience! Or maybe in the prizes would be ... Now we do not know.
      1. StolzSS
        +4
        14 February 2014 07: 18
        And you try to refuse the champion)
        1. +37
          14 February 2014 07: 55
          Yes, what to try, the Olympics is not Plushenko’s ambitions, but the country's prestige!
          1. +52
            14 February 2014 08: 24
            Quote: Berimor 2
            The Olympic disgrace of Russia!


            The main Olympic disgrace of Russia is a certain part of its fans, who are just waiting for how to throw mud at our athletes from the couch, if they fail and get ambushed when they succeed.

            As for Plushenko, he is a hero and this is without a doubt!

            All who say about Kovtun - do not understand anything in principle, the main thing for them is to express their dissatisfaction.

            Well let's estimate
            Kovtun goes to the Olympic Games, and in the teams he falls / makes mistakes / shows a weak program (we look at his results at international competitions) and gets fifth place, the situation could be repeated in the free program, since all the favorites from other countries would certainly go there. Accordingly, Trankov and Kolosozhar would be forced to perform the following hire in the team ..... Question. What is the likelihood of gold in such a situation with the weakest link in the male form? Or at least silver?

            Well, the fact that Kovtun would definitely not have taken anything in the individual is as clear as God's day. So with the arrival of Plushenko, we only acquired, and let Kovtun show his level at least in Europe.

            So, Zhenya is a hero! Thank him for everything and a speedy recovery!
            1. +14
              14 February 2014 11: 46
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              The main Olympic disgrace of Russia is a certain part of its fans, who are just waiting for how to throw mud at our athletes from the couch, if they fail and get ambushed when they succeed.

              Though I don’t water anyone with mud - but questions are piling up -
              Where are our medals ?? Having the opportunity to train before playing games on all tracks - had to memorize every turn by heart - this is not.
              Plushenko is certainly a great skater - but if I know that my back hurts and I can break, I don’t climb to the bar. I’d go as an assistant coach, if I wanted so much for the Olympics, and so, maybe some sort of young skater broke off with the trip and did not start his career ...
              1. +1
                14 February 2014 14: 11
                Where are our medals ?? Having the opportunity to train before playing games on all tracks - had to memorize every turn by heart - this is not.

                And what did you personally do for sports to ask for it ?! Do you sponsor a sports section or are your children in sports boarding schools in the first roles?
                You know, blaming the simplest. But the one who really does something for sports does the least thing he does.
                1. Candy wrapper
                  0
                  14 February 2014 14: 23
                  We, the audience, are not obligated to love athletes. Love for athletes comes when there is a positive result of their work and is replaced by hostility when negative results appear. Plushenko and Rudkovskaya spoiled the whole country for their upcoming tour of the cities, publicized themselves to the detriment of young athletes. Naturally, with their influence, other athletes will not openly say anything (so far) so as not to lose the remaining opportunities. This is the situation in our country.
                  1. 0
                    14 February 2014 17: 50
                    Love for athletes comes when there is a positive result of their work and is replaced by hostility when negative results appear.

                    You know. From a fan of our motorist I heard a beautiful phrase.
                    "When a team is at the top, everyone at once supports it and all its fans. But when things go hard, many of them turn away. Are they fans? If children start bringing triplets from school instead of fives, you turn away from them?"

                    These athletes have done more for the country than you, and you can only blame them.
                    1. crbvbyjr
                      +4
                      14 February 2014 19: 08
                      If a person does a poor job of his work / and among athletes the Olympics is the main work in life / then he needs to be changed.
                      1. 0
                        14 February 2014 19: 33
                        In sports you have to be the first, you don't have to be in work. At work, it is simple enough to meet the professional requirements for the job.
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                      3. natalia-teacher
                        0
                        18 February 2014 04: 26
                        Here Kovtun and changed. Because I could not cope.
                2. +8
                  14 February 2014 16: 44
                  Answer 31231
                  And he, and I personally, go to work every day, earn the Gross Domestic Product, so that athletes can train, the military fired. And we have the right to ask how OUR money is spent!
                  1. -2
                    14 February 2014 17: 39
                    And we have the right to ask how OUR money is spent!

                    Please publish your tax return here ?! You paid a lot of personal income tax ?! And how many athletes can be fed for this ?!
                    And then people like you can only "Yakat" when you talk about good deeds. And "Poke" when you talk about the bad.
                    And please study the income and expense items of the budget, so that you do not hit yourself in the chest and say that you have deducted a "bunch" of money for athletes.
                    And yet, yes, do not use the word "OUR". Speak first of all for yourself and YOUR tax deductions.
                    1. crbvbyjr
                      +5
                      14 February 2014 19: 11
                      I do not understand. Have you seen my declaration? do not ssi for me the company pays full growth. and we have the right to ask
                      1. -3
                        14 February 2014 19: 36
                        The fact of the matter is that I have not seen your declaration. But I see an exorbitant ambition and arrogance like you that you keep athletes.
                    2. +4
                      15 February 2014 05: 48
                      What is this single-brazen tone? Your tax return requirements look at least silly. Everything that is built in Sochi, built on OUR! money. Oh, how they got there, that's another question. Either Gazprom robbed US with incredible gas tariffs, or that money was simply stolen from OUR wallet, or we honestly work, each in our place, we pay income tax. By the way, Plushenko became Plushenko also on OUR money. And if he knew (and he knew) about his problems long before the start of the JI, then he would invest in youth and give all his experience. So no. His shirt is closer to the body.
                3. yur
                  yur
                  +10
                  14 February 2014 17: 59
                  Quote: 31231
                  And what did you personally do for sports to ask for it ?! Sports section
                  For example, I pay taxes at least. And for 44 years of work experience I paid, I think, enough to ask, not from Plushenko, God forbid, Plushenko is a hero, but from the leaders of the sport: "Where are the new buns, where are the brass, where are the modern Tretyakov who are not running headlong to the West. here they will wipe the snot and teach (at the state expense) to play, run, jump, etc.? And, gentlemen, sports leaders?
                  1. +4
                    14 February 2014 19: 43
                    Have you looked at your taxes? Pension, Social Insurance, Transport tax. And personal income tax is a trifle diverging into hundreds of budget expenditures. Most athletes abroad live on advertising contracts and prize money from performances. State support there at the national team level is even minimal.
                    And so citizens do not write such nonsense that they pay athletes with their taxes.
                    And the tax burden in Europe is much larger than the Russian one.
                    And respect for me cause fathers who lead their children in the section, and not who are taught from the couch to lead the country.
                    1. Candy wrapper
                      +3
                      14 February 2014 20: 05
                      31231 you think the Russian people in vain for a herd that has no right to ask anyone in our country in vain, and your comparison of athletes competing at the Olympics with children studying at school is, to put it mildly, incorrect. Now, just, our biathletes justified themselves according to the full program (they didn’t even enter the first 40), and if NPP engineers had not done their job as well? Why should we pity and love them? For their laziness? Good parents even smash the same students for deuces.
                      1. -3
                        14 February 2014 20: 26
                        you think in vain the Russian people for a herd that has no right to ask anyone in our state,

                        Why am I not surprised that you spoke on behalf of the entire Russian people?
                        Get a gang?
                      2. +2
                        14 February 2014 20: 38
                        Quote: Fantik
                        Right now, just, our biathletes have justified themselves in full (not even included in the first 40)

                        Here is the same "expert" in sports, like those who remembered about their taxes, but went in for sports only in their bunk, yo-Prokhorov, insisted on yo-Pichler. And now women's biathlon is in Yo-ZaDnitsa.
                        Quote: Fantik
                        and if NPP engineers had also failed to fulfill their responsibilities?

                        And that was ... Because the ё-Head of Chernobyl, in the pursuit of recognition, and not a damn thing in the energy sector, turned off ALL types of protection, and dispersed the 4th block to critical.
                      3. +2
                        14 February 2014 22: 11
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        , ё-Prokhorov, insisted on ё-Pihler. And now the female biathlon in ё-zaDnitsa.


                        And who p-insisted on e-Prokhorov?
                      4. +3
                        14 February 2014 23: 13
                        Quote: Normal
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        , ё-Prokhorov, insisted on ё-Pihler. And now the female biathlon in ё-zaDnitsa.

                        And who p-insisted on e-Prokhorov?

                        Honestly, I don’t remember who.
                        But I remember how he, as the Big Biathlon Boss, took off our coach before the end of the competition.
                      5. +2
                        15 February 2014 00: 36
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Honestly, I don’t remember who.


                        And you try to guess.
                        A couple of leading questions:
                        Who has this opportunity?
                        Who is with us
                        leads
                        to everyone and everything in "manual mode"?
                      6. +1
                        15 February 2014 00: 49
                        Quote: Normal
                        Who is with us
                        Leads everyone and everything in "manual mode"?

                        Vladimir, I remember that you and I debated more than
                        Quote: Normal
                        Who has this opportunity?

                        I will not lead a provocation, but I remind you that in February 1943, according to the recollections of the miracle commanders of the Wehrmacht, the Führer was somehow to blame for the Stalingrad defeat ...
                        In general, the topic is not the same.
                      7. +1
                        15 February 2014 01: 34
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Vladimir, I remember that you and I debated more than

                        Really? I don’t remember something ... although ... not the point.

                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        for some reason, one Fuhrer ...

                        And by the fact that the Führer! I would not like analogies ... But ... (not in the sense that it is bad, but in the sense that everything is responsible)

                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        In general, the topic is not the same.

                        I agree, we turn off.
                      8. 0
                        15 February 2014 00: 06
                        Do not touch the Chernobyl-minded person who is energy-conscious, the protection was turned on and the reactor exploded after turning on the emergency protection, which shut down the reactor
                      9. +2
                        15 February 2014 00: 45
                        Quote: vanya
                        Do not touch the Chernobyl-minded person who is energy-conscious, the protection was turned on and the reactor exploded after turning on the emergency protection, which shut down the reactor

                        I noticed who knows here ...
                        Excessive loads were set to the reactor, disabling all types of protection. And when the uncontrollable reaction began, they remembered the emergency.
                        A question to meet - who gave the sanction to REMOVE ALL KINDS OF PROTECTION, EXCEEDING LOADS, WHO VIOLATED ALL POSSIBLE AND IMPOSSIBLE RULES?
                    2. +2
                      14 February 2014 20: 30
                      Quote: 31231
                      And respect for me cause fathers who lead their children in the section, and not who are taught from the couch to lead the country.

                      Bravo!
                      Internet patriotism does not imply knowledge of the subject under discussion.
                      "Protect Tashkent" is a trend of the poor and the holy fools.
                4. crbvbyjr
                  +8
                  14 February 2014 19: 04
                  SPORT IS A PUBLIC BUSINESS. AND THE STATE SPEAKS PEOPLE'S MONEY ON IT, THEREFORE THE PEOPLE RIGHT TO ASK THE RIGHT TO ASK WHERE THE RESULTS ARE. WHAT OUR MONEY WAS FOR
                  1. +3
                    14 February 2014 19: 47
                    Quote: crbvbyjr
                    SPORT IS A PUBLIC BUSINESS. AND THE STATE SPEAKS PEOPLE'S MONEY ON IT, THEREFORE THE PEOPLE RIGHT TO ASK THE RIGHT TO ASK WHERE THE RESULTS ARE. WHAT OUR MONEY WAS FOR

                    Tell "Prokhor" and Pichler about this ...
                5. +5
                  14 February 2014 20: 02
                  Quote: 31231
                  And what did you personally do for sports to ask for it ?!

                  Quote: 31231
                  the one who really does something for sports does the least.

                  We work and pay taxes for the training of athletes (construction and maintenance of sports facilities, training of trainers and athletes themselves, maintenance of sports officials, etc., etc.) Therefore, we have every right to ask for low results.
                  Quote: 31231
                  You sponsor the sports section

                  That is, if a bandyugan sponsors a section from the loot, he has the right to ask for the result? Doesn't he have a hard worker who can make ends meet, but thanks to which there is sport?
                  1. +2
                    14 February 2014 20: 24
                    Quote: rkkasa 81
                    ) Therefore, we have every right to ask for low results.

                    Quote: rkkasa 81
                    That is, if a bandyugan from the loot will sponsor a section, he has the right to ask for the result

                    Anyway with these slogans were going to run for the State Duma? laughing
                  2. -4
                    14 February 2014 20: 28
                    We work and pay taxes for the training of athletes (construction and maintenance of sports facilities, training of trainers and athletes themselves, maintenance of sports officials, etc., etc.) Therefore, we have every right to ask for low results.

                    Once again, for the faint-hearted: study the experience of Europe and America. Who makes the main material contribution to the education of athletes and their further maintenance at their peak.
                    1. +5
                      14 February 2014 22: 24
                      Quote: 31231
                      I see exorbitant ambition and arrogance like you

                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      "Protect Tashkent" is a trend of the poor and the holy fools.

                      Quote: 31231
                      Get a gang?

                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      Anyway with these slogans were going to run for the State Duma?


                      Classic!
                      As soon as someone tries to declare their right to ask for the result (at least from the authorities, at least from the athletes with the help of which this government promotes and raises its rating), or not even ask, but to express their dissatisfaction with the failed results, the pro-authorities immediately begin to fool around and defamate those who ask.
                      Well. Only this remains arrogant, holy fool and wretched ... pro-government.
                      1. +2
                        14 February 2014 23: 23
                        Quote: Normal
                        Well. Only this remains arrogant, holy fool and wretched ... pro-government.

                        Oh, oh, oh ... crying It’s familiar to give advice and teach how to lead a country, launch rockets into space, count money spent on infrastructure.
                        Why they won’t ask what are the curlers’s chances (you’ll break your tongue and not call sports - it’s better if the holes were cut and fish were caught) —What kind of shisha do they exist? And remember about the shame on hockey in Vancouver?
                        On the eve of the Olympics on TV, no loud words were said and promised ...
                        I, as a person, are not dominated. But he spent 5 years on the outskirts of Big Sport. There were no injuries per se. Just the left knee did not allow to play handball anymore. And the team a year later became the champion of the RSFSR. And who to blame?
                      2. +4
                        15 February 2014 00: 20
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        How familiar is to give advice and teach how to lead a country,


                        Where did you find this from me?
                        I have quoted your quotes from 31231, in which you openly defame your opponents:
                        exorbitant ambition and arrogance like you ....
                        this is a trend of wretched and holy fools.


                        Instead of arguments - demagogy:
                        Get gang? ...
                        are going to run for the State Duma?


                        What do you allow yourself? And here is curling, a disgrace in Vancouver and your 5 years on the outskirts?

                        This is a concrete, very ugly situation as a result of which we are deprived of any hope, not just a medal, but even a fight for them. Deprived of what big sport exists for. For what the athletes themselves exist.
                        Instead, we are invited to some kind of muddy action with a foul-smelling subtext.

                        You immediately go on to assess the mental and physical qualities of your opponents, move the arrows to politics,

                        Not beautiful.
                      3. +1
                        15 February 2014 00: 58
                        Quote: Normal
                        What do you allow yourself? And here is curling, a disgrace in Vancouver and your 5 years on the outskirts?

                        Let me ... And try to explain normal language "Who did not love, he will not understand".
                        And for the dull "polymers" I repeat
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Internet patriotism does not imply knowledge of the subject under discussion.
                        "Protect Tashkent" is a trend of the poor and the holy fools.

                        And if someone saw himself in the defenders of Tashkent, then this is the problem of the defenders. And do not attribute to me
                        Quote: Normal
                        assessing the mental and physical qualities of opponents, translate arrows on politics,

                        And about my 5 years in sports - who really went in for sports, he can understand the tragedy of the situation.
                        And the "sofa-bed" sportsmen wore Ivy on their hands yesterday, and today they are ready to mix it with a dick.
                      4. +4
                        15 February 2014 01: 26
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        I allow ...

                        Persistence? Clear...
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Therefore I repeat
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Internet patriotism does not imply knowledge of the subject under discussion.
                        "Protect Tashkent" is a trend of the poor and the holy fools.
                        And if someone saw himself in the defenders of Tashkent, then this is the problem of the defenders. And do not attribute to me
                        Quote: Normal
                        assessing the mental and physical qualities of opponents, translate arrows on politics,

                        Decided that I am not able to determine banter, demagoguery and antics? Want to communicate in this style?
                        You are insolent, my friend ...
                        It is not I who "ascribe" to you; this is how you express yourself.
                        And it is you who defend "Tashkent" as the culprit in the situation under discussion.
                        And you were not the only one involved in sports, and you were not the only one with injuries. And again, this is not about sports. There is least of all sports in this situation, but PR, immoderate ambitions, unreasonable hopes and expectations, decisions dictated by personal interests and non-"sports" behavior of both the athlete himself and the leaders, coaches and doctors more than enough.
                        And do not talk about tragedy. In sports, nobody is pulled by force.
                        Yes and beyond the sport of tragedy more than enough. For example, after several years of working with pneumatic tools at the factory, I also don’t feel hands. Also now I can’t work in my specialty.
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        And the "sofa-bed" sportsmen wore Ivy on their hands yesterday, and today they are ready to mix it with a dick.

                        Although I have never carried any of the professional athletes "on my hands", I will say: they have the right! Especially after such "pretzels". An athlete (especially of the highest articles) exists for the fan, oddly enough.
                      5. +2
                        15 February 2014 01: 37
                        Quote: Normal
                        Although I have never carried any of the professional athletes "on my hands", I will say: they have the right! Especially after such "pretzels". An athlete (especially of the highest articles) exists for the fan, oddly enough.

                        1: 1 Will arrange such an account?
                        My congratulations on the marshal's epaulettes hi
                      6. +2
                        15 February 2014 01: 45
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        1: 1 Will arrange such an account?

                        Well, except for friendship Yes (I don’t remember when you scored what ) laughing hi
                        My congratulations on the marshall epaulettes hi


                        Serving the working people! soldier
                6. +5
                  14 February 2014 21: 53
                  Quote: 31231
                  And what did you personally do for sports to ask for it ?! Do you sponsor a sports section or are your children in sports boarding schools in the first roles?
                  You know, blaming the simplest. But the one who really does something for sports does the least thing he does.

                  What have I done for sports? For some time, the peace of the athletes protected them so that they could train quietly - I hope this answer suits you, I will remain modestly silent about my taxes, I already realized that if you are not a millionaire, you are no match for them.
                  Only you couldn’t explain clearly - why when our athletes lose - should we be happy and not dare to criticize them ??
                  Vitaliy Mutko - log in.
                  1. 0
                    14 February 2014 22: 29
                    Vitaliy Mutko - log in.

                    Are you all here who will call Mutkoy against your opinion?

                    For some time, the peace of the athletes defended

                    For some reason, I just served. Because I didn’t have a chance to fight for my homeland, although a lot went from the battalion to the second Chechnya.
                    And somehow he considered the service his duty, and not a feat for the sake of the motherland.
                    But athletes are great and not for you to blame them. You are simply an ungrateful fan for them, who simply didn’t even see Plushenko’s contribution to team gold.
                    1. +3
                      14 February 2014 23: 46
                      Quote: 31231
                      But athletes are great and not for you to blame them. You are simply an ungrateful fan for them, who simply didn’t even see Plushenko’s contribution to team gold.

                      - Bravo is the most compelling argument.
                      I do my job - the athletes do my job - I get a salary (just imagine the same), but if the "end product" of my work is a product, then theirs are medals and records.
                      If I stop producing goods, they will not understand me, they will stop paying money and will undergo all kinds of obstruction in the form of dismissal. In your opinion, can I kick a bolt at work and should everyone love me for this?
                      If you carefully read my first post (and you obviously did not read it carefully) I can repeat myself - I did not doused anyone with anything, but asked the question - where are our medals? (or is it a sin to ask an athlete about medals?)
                      And which of you is a grateful fan - do you personally transfer money for training to them?
                7. vyatom
                  0
                  19 February 2014 14: 13
                  Quote: 31231
                  You know, blaming the simplest. But the one who really does something for sports does the least thing he does.

                  Who for example? Huge amounts of money have been spent in training athletes. The Olympics in our country once every 100 years. So be kind, show the level of a great country, and do not look for excuses in the machinations of the imperialists, etc.
            2. +5
              14 February 2014 12: 33
              How little needs to be done for you to become a hero.
              What does the word Hero mean to you?
            3. +9
              14 February 2014 16: 04
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              As for Plushenko, he is a hero and this is without a doubt!

              And who doubts that he is a Hero? It just seems to me that the problem of our performances at the Olympic Games in Sochi is not in the heroes - pensioners, and since they could pull and pull the Olympic Games, and the problem is that with this approach as it is now (there is no state support in financing) for sports, syst. education, and other cultural events, at the next Olympics there will simply be no one to speak. I talk about it this way because I know that I myself was in a similar situation. For his child he bought sports ammunition, and accessories, at his own expense, travel, at his own expense, or a sponsor (if you're lucky). There is no money to travel the child in flight, and usually those who have babos, or dad’s sponsors of trainers, Well, in the end, when the competition takes place, then these daddy's little daughters-daughters, when they meet a worthy opponent, simply lose. And the arrogance flies, but that’s not all, the judges announce that my dad’s son won, (at inter-regional competitions).
              And at such a shame-competition, I personally attended, one guy who was tried to sue was defended. So why do we need such a sport ????
              1. +9
                14 February 2014 16: 59
                Quote: Sirocco
                And who doubts that he is a Hero?

                well i doubt it ...
                The heroes were Soviet athletes ... and these ... just, there is such a profession today - "sportsman" ... in demand by the time ... first of all, today they simply make money on sports ... bonuses, prize funds, "bonuses "from the state budget for prizes ... gifts from the powerful and powerful ... state awards ... plus advertising, shooting in glossy magazines, etc. ... the country's prestige is, perhaps, also present ... by default ... but ... this is only secondly ...
                1. +3
                  14 February 2014 17: 13
                  Quote: military
                  well i doubt it ...

                  Well, what you do is your right, but nevertheless he is the hero of his profession. For the rest, I agree with you. You wrote about what many people think, and that it is. Only I doubt that this ugliness in the model-business sport will be put to an end, because we got on the wheels of wild capitalism.
                  1. +8
                    14 February 2014 17: 29
                    Quote: Sirocco
                    Well, what you do is your right, but nevertheless he is the hero of his profession.

                    a professional - yes ... and extremely well paid ... and long accustomed to this ...
                    what kind of "hero of the profession" he is - we'll see soon ... tickets for his post-Olympic tour continue to sell ...
                    and we didn’t get up on the wheels of wild capitalism ... they put us on them ... and, what is the worst thing, others who put their best efforts came to replace those who did, so that we would not inadvertently jump off ... "guardians" for the Russian state ... hi
                  2. 0
                    15 February 2014 06: 35
                    Let me notice - the wheels are square.
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                3. Pinochet000
                  +7
                  14 February 2014 17: 46
                  Quote: military
                  The heroes were Soviet athletes ...

                  Certainly! And I think any of them would "fight" to the end, even if not only health, but also life was under threat ... in general, he didn't even want to comment on THIS, everything is more than clear anyway ..... he is also in society the split was made by his act ... IMHO
              2. +2
                15 February 2014 06: 32
                I completely agree with you. I reached my sporting heights back in Soviet times, and the costs from my parents were minimal, and there were more than enough opportunities to train. And now in our town for 54 thousand inhabitants - one (paid) outdoor ice rink, one (paid) pool, one (free) stadium. And everything about equipment, travel to training camps and competitions falls on the shoulders of parents. Sports schools survive despite the conditions. And how much do parents need to invest to equip young talent? This is incomprehensible to the mind! And Plushenko? So why talk about it? He made a name for himself, but forgot about the country. So maybe he is right, judging by her attitude to SPORT (not the image of sports, namely SPORT).
            4. +7
              14 February 2014 17: 01
              Here, too, is not so clear.
              What happened is something - what we were told only about the official version is a fact.
              The fact that Kovtun could fail too ...
              The fact that they are now watered with guam and they say that with a pillar instead of Plushenko we would take gold - only shows that from the hero to the shit, a large part of the population has a very short path.

              But why didn’t Plushenko be removed from the individual due to injury and did not put Kovtun in advance?
              Why did the Olympic quota selection fail?
              Unfortunately, these figures are unlikely to be asked by the officials of figure skating, since they are now on a horse, the number of medals the skaters will take will once again allow officials not to answer uncomfortable questions.
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            6. natalia-teacher
              0
              18 February 2014 04: 38
              I join your opinion.
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        3. Hon
          +3
          14 February 2014 09: 32
          Member of United Russia
          1. -8
            14 February 2014 11: 38
            Quote: Hon
            Member of United Russia

            Which once again proves that there are only PEDRA in PEDRA.
            1. +3
              14 February 2014 12: 53
              in general, there are many who cannot speak the language. there are both Karelin and Emelianenko
              1. +2
                14 February 2014 14: 24
                Someone considers these people to be PEDAS? Get out.
              2. 11111mail.ru
                +2
                14 February 2014 17: 41
                Quote: Gleb
                there and Karelin and Emelianenko

                It seems that the information slipped through two weeks before the opening of the Games that Emelianenko reasonably objected to the trip of the said "king" to the Games.
                1. +1
                  14 February 2014 18: 33
                  I hear it for the first time, but I’m sure it won’t be pierced in the tongue. It is always correct for everyone. At least in the interview. In this case, most likely, the duck or his words have changed to such an extent that the original meaning of what was said has nothing to do with what information slipped through
                  he is essentially such a person that he does not meddle in other people's affairs. I mean skaters. and in his own words he doesn’t dissolve the language
                2. 0
                  14 February 2014 19: 56
                  It seems that the information slipped two weeks before the opening of the Games that Emelianenko reasonably objected to the trip of the said "king" to the Games

                  We read carefully. For visually impaired and mentally deprived.
                  S.-PETERSBURG, Jan 25 - R-Sport, Taras Barabash. Russian skater Evgeni Plushenko had to win the World Championship or the Russian Figure Skating Championship in order to go to the Olympics on a sporting basis, Russian mixed martial arts fighter Alexander Emelyanenko said in an interview with R-Sport.

                  I hope you don’t need to chew, who is Fedor and who is his poor brother Sasha ?!
                  1. 11111mail.ru
                    +2
                    15 February 2014 09: 02
                    Quote: 31231
                    For visually impaired and mentally deprived.

                    To the very clairvoyant and UNDEFINED rudeness: read the quote you quoted, find the words there:
                    Quote: 31231
                    had win World Cup or Russian Figure Skating Championship to go to the Olympics

                    Now about the lordly rudeness: since you yourself issued the quote, it means that you have confirmed the availability of information. I will give a saying with a specific address: "Chuki-tuki ... in your hands."
                    1. 0
                      15 February 2014 10: 01
                      Now, regarding the lordly rudeness: since you yourself issued a quote, then you confirmed the availability of information.

                      You generally keep the dialogue thread? Or just see your comments?
                      You were told above that FEDOR Emelianenko and Karelin are in United Russia. You, having confused Fedor with his poor brother Sasha, instead of admitting an error, are talking nonsense about confirming the information.
                      Alexander Emelianenko, brother of the famous athlete and deputy Fedor Emelianenko. Former sitter. In sports, he achieved significantly less results than his older brother Fedor. AND EXACTLY he criticized Plushenko, not Fedor. Alexander has nothing to do with EdRu. Like Fedor, Plushenko has nothing to do with criticism.
                      1. 11111mail.ru
                        +1
                        15 February 2014 11: 05
                        Quote: 31231
                        You generally keep the dialogue thread? Or just see your comments?

                        Check out my comment (14.02.2014 17:41). Is it named NAME? Therefore, you will receive from a fabulist:
                        IA Krylov, quote: "What to consider gossip to work,
                        Isn't it better to turn to yourself, godfather? "
                        Foreseeing an unflattering answer I will continue to quote:
                        "To her bear answered.
                        But Mishenkin’s advice was wasted. "
              3. 0
                14 February 2014 19: 53
                in general, there are many who cannot speak the language. there are both Karelin and Emelianenko

                Moreover, there are also former "Alpha" members. It's just that this character can only throw cheap accusations, without even looking at whom he is throwing.
        4. 0
          14 February 2014 10: 20
          And you try to refuse Putin.
      2. +16
        14 February 2014 09: 16
        I wouldn’t win, but I would gain such necessary experience! Then let's form the hockey team only from KHL players, they won’t win, but they will gain experience. We needed the first gold and we have it including thanks Plushenko. Let us at the same time kick back our skiers and biathletes, who are so healthy and fervent, who can neither run nor shoot on their home track.
        1. +9
          14 February 2014 09: 26
          Quote: Andrey 447
          Then let's form the hockey team only from KHL players, they won’t win, but they will gain experience

          Andrei, you confuse God's gift with fried eggs! Then I mind you, let's recruit the injured team.
          Quote: Andrey 447
          Let us at the same time kick back our skiers and biathletes, who are so healthy and fervent, who can neither run nor shoot on their own track.

          We will not kick, but ask the question how you approached the games in this form!
          You noticed that both questions should be asked to our (or not ours) trainers!
          1. Candy wrapper
            +11
            14 February 2014 10: 19
            And Kostya Tszyu has already given an answer to this question in his interview to the Free Press: they do not want to work, but they want to have everything with minimal effort. Well, plus the general collapse of sports in the country ...
            Of course, this is unpleasant when people with disabilities go to the ice of the Olympics, it is as annoying as the presence of athletes in the state. Duma.
            1. +11
              14 February 2014 13: 45
              At the Paralympic Games, our disabled people perform just fine, they have never failed either fans or the country
              1. Candy wrapper
                +2
                14 February 2014 13: 53
                So then the Olympic Games, and I talked about the Olympic Games.
              2. +5
                14 February 2014 17: 08
                Quote: koni
                At the Paralympic Games, our disabled people perform just fine, they have never failed either fans or the country

                well ... what are we waiting for the inclusion of figure skating in the program of the Paralympic Games ... and Plushenko’s successful debut ... wink
          2. +5
            14 February 2014 10: 54
            Dmitry, unfortunately I don’t confuse anything. Experience is gained in competitions of a different level in the championships and cups of Europe and the world, and as a result of the short cycle of the Olympics, it is necessary to give results and not experience.
            1. +2
              14 February 2014 14: 44
              Andrey, I don’t even argue, that's right! I spoke in relation to this situation. As a result, we were completely without anyone. And you must admit that now we would not know how Kovtun would have acted. And suddenly, this is the Olympics! And the rivals are wrong, and he could get together. Where do you get Olympic experience? Did you expect that young Lipnitskaya will shine so?
            2. -1
              14 February 2014 14: 44
              Andrey, I don’t even argue, that's right! I spoke in relation to this situation. As a result, we were completely without anyone. And you must admit that now we would not know how Kovtun would have acted. And suddenly, this is the Olympics! And the rivals are wrong, and he could get together. Where do you get Olympic experience? Did you expect that young Lipnitskaya will shine so?
          3. 0
            14 February 2014 16: 53
            I completely agree. You "+". I wanted to add about our biathletes, when they are not very good at the stages of the World Cup. I decided - they cherish the forces.
          4. natalia-teacher
            0
            18 February 2014 04: 30
            The team had a choice, injured or not. And in the men's solitary - there was no choice. See the standings!
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        3. +7
          14 February 2014 10: 22
          +
          Experience must be gained in competitions easier. Here it is real to speak at an appropriate level. And for the experience there are national, continental championships, cups and more.
          1. +3
            14 February 2014 19: 03
            Banshee

            Quote

            "... Experience should be gained at simpler competitions ..."

            As the author of the article.
            Our current Olympic champion in high jump Chicherova participated in three Olympiads (2004–6 places, 2008–3 place, 2012, age –30 years – GOLD) and gained experience all her sports life.
            According to the olympiad.
            In terms of the number of medals, we do not look very bad, but in terms of quality, there are no words. But this is most likely historically formed, "we will throw our hats."
        4. +9
          14 February 2014 11: 48
          Quote: Andrey 447
          Let us at the same time kick back our skiers and biathletes, who are so healthy and fervent, who can neither run nor shoot on their own track.

          You don’t have to kick, but put the ski stick where it is.
          It is its own track - blindfolded must run along it.
        5. +2
          14 February 2014 14: 04
          The Olympics have already shown that there is no sport in our country !!!!
        6. natalia-teacher
          0
          18 February 2014 04: 28
          Amazing, right? Skiing is a complete failure, and people are kicking a wounded lion. hoopoes, not people.
          1. 0
            18 February 2014 04: 36
            Quote: natalia-teacher
            Skiing is a complete failure, and people are kicking a wounded lion. hoopoes, not people.

            yes, this wounded lion yesterday crap Russia on American TV so much that it’s not yet known who is here. Or are you Madame not Natalya, but Ivy’s wife?
            1. +1
              18 February 2014 04: 55
              And you there? And our fucking federations do not want to ask a couple of questions? They first play it is not clear what and then someone should rake for them Already how much they poured on Plushenko and at least one brought a medal and he has FOUR!
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      3. Natalia
        +12
        14 February 2014 10: 16
        To be honest, this news shocked me belay When he did not go out on ice yesterday with a solitary program, and thereby left Russia without a medal. None of the men were represented in men's single skating !!! of our skater, and this is at the Olympiad in Sochi !!!! I'm furious how he could !?
        Yes, he brought us a medal in the team event (well, well done), but yesterday he deprived us of a medal !!!

        This .... this is unheard of if you know that your health is, to put it mildly, not so hot, what then were you in the fight !? He could put so much in Vancouver, he could leave us without a medal somewhere else, BUT ONLY NOT IN SOCHI !!!
        HORROR!
        sad crying..... and I also admired him.
        1. Candy wrapper
          +4
          14 February 2014 10: 27
          Why admire him? He threw his wife and child, fled to another woman who was married to some kind of quasimode, but influential and rich.
          1. +8
            14 February 2014 11: 15
            And now he left us with our hopes ...
            He left his wife, he left his children, he left the country ... we are waiting for what will happen next.
          2. +3
            14 February 2014 11: 49
            Quote: Fantik
            Threw his wife

            This is a new trend, remember our guarantor ....
            1. +1
              14 February 2014 12: 15
              Volodya - justify the minus?
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              2. +7
                14 February 2014 13: 57
                Quote: lelikas
                Volodya - justify the minus?

                I will answer. With his wife they can do whatever they want. These are their personal family affairs with their wives. But the Olympics is a state affair. And here, please.
                1. +6
                  14 February 2014 18: 17
                  "Duc" is now personal above the state. For over 20 years we have been led to this.
            2. +4
              14 February 2014 17: 14
              Quote: lelikas
              This is a new trend, remember our guarantor ....

              in this trend, they are both outsiders ...
            3. +3
              14 February 2014 18: 20
              This is you to the point!
              Quote: lelikas
              This is a new trend, remember our guarantor ....

              The first person simply did not have the right to do so.
            4. 0
              14 February 2014 20: 02
              This is a new trend, remember our guarantor ....

              Well, not all the same as you. How one fell in love with school and all your life you go with her without changing.
              Where are Putin and Plushenko to you. You can see the halo above your head.
              1. +1
                15 February 2014 18: 51
                Quote: 31231
                Well, not all the same as you. How one fell in love with school and all your life you go with her without changing.
                Where are Putin and Plushenko to you. You can see the halo above your head.

                you can spit even further, it’s 100% hit here, you’ve only gone too far with the school - you’ve been married 20 years and never cheated, although you, as a true fan, don’t understand this .....
          3. +8
            14 February 2014 13: 02
            Quote: Fantik
            He threw his wife and child, fled to another woman who was married to some kind of quasimode, but influential and rich.

            Quasimodo is Baturin. The type from the point of view of psychiatry is the most original. It was with money, and Rudkovskaya naturally decided to have something, but didn’t take into account quasimodines, so she didn’t have much and decided to retrain for the younger generation (Plushenko). He will be seven years younger than her. So after a quasimode to whom Yanke could not be steered, now he steers in full.
        2. VAF
          VAF
          +13
          14 February 2014 11: 15
          Quote: Natalia
          and I also admired him.


          Natalya, well, you’re just a maximalist of some kind. Although it’s not for nothing that they say about women .. from love to hate .. one step wink

          And just to think about that (not paying attention to all the "undercover" Prudkovskaya's games and forecasts). That the doctors "folded" the person and the body could not stand it?
          Clear. what you do not know. what is a spinal injury and its consequences, but ..... but deprived or not deprived ....
          For example, I'm not a big fan of pair skating, but purely from those. points of view after watching an arbitrary was just shocked by the fact that Stolbov and Klimova skated 100% better than Volosozhar and Tankov (four "plops" are too much, however), but .. they scored more points.

          And more ... your koment in style fellow at the expense of hockey with the statements of your esteemed dad) -Well, we will tear everyone wassat

          And after the game I read komenty ... in shock belay ..muzhiks that you .. have not seen anything and do not understand anything request
          Yes, the best option. If you can even get bronze ... BEST !!! fellow
          What gold belay if there is no team at all ... (everything as in the song, there is a magnificent five and the goalkeeper) and if not for the 2nd bar. then the Slovenes at the 9th level, not a kindergarten but a nursery) would have pushed us at the most .. I can’t!
          1. +10
            14 February 2014 11: 55
            Quote: vaf
            if there is no team at all ... (everything as in the song, there is a magnificent five and the goalkeeper) and if not for the 2nd bar. then the Slovenes at the 9th level, not a kindergarten but a nursery) would have pushed us at the most .. I can’t!

            I looked yesterday and ..... forced, Sergei, to agree.
            There is no team yet, there is a certain collective of excellent individualists.
            Will Zinetula be able to make a team in this short time?
            I don’t know, I would like to. There is no, recognizable before, that corporate identity in the game, there are no vivid team actions.
            The Slovenes were unlucky twice, and we won only due to glimpses of a bright individual game. With Slovenes it was a ride.
            The opponents are more serious ahead. Let's see.
            1. VAF
              VAF
              +13
              14 February 2014 12: 33
              Quote: baltika-18
              I looked yesterday and ..... forced, Sergei, to agree.


              Hi Nikolay! I honestly knew that it would not be "hello", but that to such an extent belay
              Knowing how everything happened before the OI, he concluded for himself:

              There are 2 groups of 1st Explicit Applicants and 2nd Applicants:

              1. Swedes. Canadians, Americans
              2. Finns. Czechs, Slovaks.

              Between them, we, because until 1 we simply do not reach the number, well, we are ahead of the second because All the same, our level is a bit higher. Plus we play at home.

              But after watching yesterday's game ..... no words ..... I really don't know what 2 words .. from how many floors "Zinetula" brought "into their brains ... but.
              come out. damn it, pros .. on pokatushki-amusement .. rolled two and that's it .... let's indulge. but then ..... they can’t get together.
              There is no protection at all, the Swedes. By the way, the same ... the Czechs "cut" like butter.
              Radulov generally played alone, with himself and with those who got in the way.
              All the other guys from the KHL. who performed so well ... now ... a free app to the top five.

              Generally .. they push us .. the very .. "I can not."

              Well, about "figure skating", it was a tremendous PR ... so the rumor was resolved that ... "on TV, the MOST MAIN, MOST IMPORTANT. Well, and so on in the same style of" no one in the world ".. COMPETITIONS"
              And that all other competitions sucks belay

              They just can’t admit to themselves that in spite of the most grandiose SHOW-PUMPU with the discovery and acceptance of everyone and everything (they still come back to everything like that ... it’s not enough) ...... the pancake infrastructure was built for everyone ... ..that I bring the comments of one of the members of the forum ... I already want to cry ... for everyone wassat

              So ... The Olympics according to the results for us will be FAILURE !!!
              The only place where they could get gold was men's skiing, well, figure skating ... everything ... in the remaining 9 profiles), at best, only medals.

              Unfortunately .. but this is a fact ... That is why such harsh statements from people about this. Because "hooters-hopes" and "hooters-slogans" .. are not the same thing.
              1. +6
                14 February 2014 12: 57
                Alas, Sergey, the bitter truth in your words ... hi
          2. +1
            14 February 2014 14: 26
            Of course, I also remembered Vancouver, but something you Sergei directly wrote off everything on the bar wink
        3. +9
          14 February 2014 11: 21
          Quote: Natalia
          To be honest, this news shocked me belay When he did not go out on ice yesterday with a solitary program, and thereby left Russia without a medal. None of the men were represented in men's single skating !!! of our skater, and this is at the Olympiad in Sochi !!!! I'm furious how he could !?
          Yes, he brought us a medal in the team event (well, well done), but yesterday he deprived us of a medal !!!

          This .... this is unheard of if you know that your health is, to put it mildly, not so hot, what then were you in the fight !? He could put so much in Vancouver, he could leave us without a medal somewhere else, BUT ONLY NOT IN SOCHI !!!
          HORROR!
          sad crying..... and I also admired him.


          To lose something, you must first at least claim it. As shown by the performances of other single skaters claiming to be included in the national team, they do not claim anything. Only "disabled" Plushenko could compete for some kind of medal, and he sacrificed his health to try to do it.
          And it is not his fault that Russia was able to break through only 1 place in men's single skating.

          So there’s nothing to run into a person.
          1. +2
            14 February 2014 22: 53
            Quote: carver
            Only "disabled" Plushenko could compete for some kind of medal, and he sacrificing his health tried to do it.

            So the fact of the matter is that I did not even try. Moreover, everything is done so that the opportunity to replace the injured is missed, not to say even worse.
            You cannot perform at full strength for health reasons, you do not have the opportunity to give all your best to the end - there is nothing to do at the Olympic Games. Moreover, there is only one place in the team and is occupied not by sporting results, but by past merits. Plushenko excuses (but does not justify) only that "Putin asked" And yet, if it were not for his own and his wife's exorbitant ambitions, then Putin's "request" would not have any effect.
        4. +5
          14 February 2014 16: 51
          Quote: Natalia
          sad crying ..... and I also admired him.


          It is done. Do not kick - associations are not good come.
          1. 11111mail.ru
            -1
            14 February 2014 17: 49
            I will answer with a quote from H.H. Andersen: "And the king is naked!"
        5. +4
          14 February 2014 17: 11
          Quote: Natalia
          To be honest, this news shocked me

          to the question of the birds ... she shocked not only you, but also the Olympic champion (2002) Alexander Yagudin ...
        6. -1
          14 February 2014 18: 45
          Girl, you are so ... lol
          Turn on your brain, turn off emotions and you will understand something. For example, that with pain in the operated back, lack of coordination of movements, there is nothing to do on the ice of the Olympics. Leave your rage for the neo-fascists, and say the last thanks to the great skater for our last "gold", taken at the Sochi Olympics.
        7. 0
          15 February 2014 06: 48
          Yes, calm down, Natasha. He wanted to leave beautifully, he did it. And as for the fans and the country, it's a fire ... not his taste.
      4. +10
        14 February 2014 11: 31
        Quote: invisible
        I want to object

        I also want to object to you. Plushchenko is no longer an athlete, he is a glamorous PR man of his past achievements and a fan of playing in public, showing his scars on a television camera, but panting heavily in training, in an attempt to satisfy his ambitions.
        You need to leave on time, is there really no talented youth?
        I will not believe.
        After all, he took away from someone a chance, did not give someone to speak.
        SHAME !!!! Plushenko! negative
        1. +8
          14 February 2014 16: 39
          Quote: baltika-18
          SHAME !!!! Plushenko!

          It's not a shame for Plushenko! This is a shame for Sobchak, a shame for Pugacheva (who has outlived her on stage, but stubbornly climbed there with a hoarse drunken voice), shame for Serdyukovs, puzikovs! Shame on all those measures of the cities that came out of the bandits and what honor, conscience, dignity and decency are not familiar to them. I will touch on the political issue (but olimiada, there is no pain without pain), but what was written in the doctrine of Alain Dales everything happened! These are all flowers compared to what they did to the country. Again the best cars abroad, the best products abroad, all the best abroad, we have one shit ... mo! That Olympics, as I am, reminded of the expression "feast in time of plague"! And you can bring any background, but all this is a background! The Olympics are beautiful, but this is not an Olympiad, it is an expensive publicity show when you stop by the villages of Ryazan, Voronezh, Vologda regions! Many will disagree, but this is everyone's right!
      5. +9
        14 February 2014 12: 43
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        Evgeni Plushenko will perform to the accompaniment of Edwin Marton, the Hungarian virtuoso and his violin Stradivari, winner of the Emmy Award. You will also have a live performance by Dima Bilan - the only Eurovision winner from Russia and the most titled young Russian artist. The program will feature a friend of Eugene, “Golden Voice” of Russia Nikolai Baskov with the famous “Caruso”. And the number "Kings of Ice" (hardest jumps, spins and tracks), with all former and even current rivals Eugene, will immerse you in the world of this sports competition.
        tickets from 1000 to 10000 rubles.
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        And this is a note;
        NAGANO-1998. FIGURE SKATING. OKSANA GRISCHUK (RUSSIA)

        In Nagano, Oksana Grischuk, who was paired with Evgeny Platov in dance couples competitions, became a two-time Olympic champion. But only after the end of the Games it became known what difficulties the athlete had to face.

        Before the main start of the four-year anniversary, Oksana broke her wrist, but did not even allow herself to miss the Olympics. She came forward with an unhealed injury, and they say that she even hid her from her partner and coach Tatyana Tarasova. One way or another, the skater showed courage, and together with Platov to this day they remain the only two-time Olympic champions in ice dancing.
        TURIN-2006. FIGURE SKATING. Tribute to Zhang (China)
        At the Olympic Games in Turin, a real sporting feat was made by the Chinese figure skater Dan Zhang, who paired with Hao Zhang in the competition of sports couples. After a short program, they were inferior to Tatyana Tatmyanina and Maxim Marinin and were forced to take risks at random.

        In one of these moments, performing an outburst of four turns, the risk did not materialize, and Zhang fell onto the ice from a sufficiently high height. During the fall, she hit her knee on the ice, and then crashed her back into the side. The pain was so severe that the skater hardly rose from the ice, and the program was stopped. It was all the more surprising to learn after a few minutes that Zhang decided to go back to the venue and continue the fight. This moment was the culmination of the competition of sports couples. The rules did not stipulate what actions the judges should take, but, seeing the reaction of the public and the desire of the athlete herself, they allowed the couple to prove their program to the end.

        The Zhangs not only completed the competition, but also won silver medals. The standing room applauded the Chinese couple. As it turned out later, during the fall, Tribute sprained knee ligaments. The skater was forced to miss a month due to an injury and only at the last moment managed to recover for the World Cup.
      6. +10
        14 February 2014 16: 21
        About doctors: after such an operation (replacement of the intervertebral disc), the patient is assigned a third group of disability for 3 year, followed by a repeated medical examination. This means that the person is NOT WORKABLE at this time! He is given time to recover. At this time, he can walk with support. What are the jumps? Plushenko could simply become a wheelchair user for life! Any doctor knows this when passing a medical examination! Most likely the medical commission was "asked" to let it pass. Next. The country must know its heroes! Who specifically decided to send Plushenko instead of Kovtun?
        1. According to the results of the Chechen Republic of Kovtun-1, Pl-2.
        2. Kovtun is young, he needs to be "run in", prepared with the next OI. With all due respect to E. Plyushchenko, he has already done everything for Russia, his name is already inscribed in golden letters in our sports history, but we need to leave in time. We don't put V. Tretyak on the gate?
        3. How was the medical commission? Even before sending the bus driver on a flight, he undergoes a medical examination.
      7. calocha
        0
        15 February 2014 10: 14
        The reserve MUST be, this is a HUGE omission of the coaching staff
      8. natalia-teacher
        0
        18 February 2014 04: 25
        The meaning of the Olympics is overcoming. Faster, higher, farther, cooler. The fact that ONE man was found who tried this world and its material boundaries on a fortress speaks of the man’s unbending will, unique qualities that happen once every hundred years. Doctors watched, it was Evgeny’s decision - to overcome pain, to overcome himself, to overcome illness - to do the impossible, and he did !!!!! Nobody has ever done more than him!
        And here you don’t have to be a specialist, there would be no prizes, if not for Eugene, it is enough to look at the tournament tables for recent years.
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    2. +26
      14 February 2014 06: 51
      It is necessary to really assess your abilities and desires .... But unfortunately, high ambitions overshadow the mind ....
      1. +15
        14 February 2014 06: 59
        Quote: Vladimir.z.
        But unfortunately, high ambitions overshadow the mind ....

        The fact that Plushenko, all broken and broken, went to the Olympics is not a sport, it is ambition. Whose ambitions - everyone can draw a conclusion for himself. "They asked" whether Plushenko, or he himself decided: it is necessary to perform, at least in the team competition. And there, even to hell with horns.
        Rudkovskaya, I think, also could not do without influence on Plushenko. It is obvious that Yana put the maximum of her "charm" and "influence".
        And who and how "influenced" Rudkovskaya and what and how much promised her for the fact that the semi-disabled Plushenko will be noted in the team competition - one can only guess.
        PS <Alexei Mishin, the coach of Russian figure skater Evgeni Plushenko, said on Thursday that it makes no sense for his pupil to continue his sports career. Plushenko withdrew from the individual tournament in Sochi.
        "I don't see the point in this. When I said that Plushenko could still return after the Olympic Games in Sochi, I had only one possibility in mind - if figure skating is included in the Paralympic Games program">
        1. +11
          14 February 2014 08: 35
          Plushenko is an outstanding athlete, still not focusing on this incident, let's recall his previous achievements
          Of course, it’s hard now to say something, did he have to go to the Olympics or not,
          Now each side will have its own theory of conspiracy, they will analyze the record of his jump every second, examining and proving whether or not to damage his spine again, I’ll say that he continued to play sports with such injuries and achieved a lot - he is honored it’s a pity that everything ended like this, now you can’t prove anything to anyone (even if you really have a back) it looks very much like artificial (received another Olympic medal and left undefeated) - the Japanese set a new world record (by points) Plushenko simply I couldn’t compete with him, but I didn’t want to lose (this will be the statement of the second side)
          In any case, this is not what was expected of him, but at the same time it smells of an incomprehensible combo - beautifully or not - he has to live with it until the end of his life, only his statement that he fought to the end - I do not believe it, but respecting him as a great athlete, all this glamor in which he lives the last 5-7 years - apparently left his mark on him.
          1. +6
            14 February 2014 08: 44
            Quote: atalef
            that he fought to the end - I do not believe, while respecting him as a great athlete, all this glamor in which he has lived the last 5-7 years - apparently left his mark on him.


            What did you expect from him? For him to skate, somewhere in the middle of the program, he fell and would be carried away on a stretcher and he would spend several years, atom and his whole life in a wheelchair? You therefore do not believe? The man took second place in the short program, giving Chan and only an unsuccessful drop cut him off from the silver or bronze of his last Olympics, and whoever thinks Kovtun would get at least bronze - a stubborn critic. See performances at the World Cup and European Championship.
            1. +3
              14 February 2014 16: 35
              As a "stubborn critic" I propose to look at Ch. Russia 2014. With such a diagnosis (12 operations), the medical board should not have released him. "behind every feat is someone's crime." Meresiev flew without legs, but it was War! Now victory is forged by monotonous, boring, everyday work.
            2. 0
              14 February 2014 20: 19
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              What did you expect from him?

              I am nothing, the question is, what did he want for himself
              Athletes who won medals in spite of injuries.
              NAGANO-1998. FIGURE SKATING. OKSANA GRISCHUK (RUSSIA)
              In Nagano, Oksana Grischuk, who was paired with Evgeny Platov in dance couples competitions, became a two-time Olympic champion. But only after the end of the Games it became known what difficulties the athlete had to face.
              Before the main start of the four-year anniversary, Oksana broke her wrist, but did not even allow herself to miss the Olympics. She came forward with an unhealed injury, and they say that she even hid her from her partner and coach Tatyana Tarasova. One way or another, the skater showed courage, and together with Platov to this day they remain the only two-time Olympic champions in ice dancing.
              NAGANO-1998. SKIING. HERMANN MAYER (AUSTRIA)
              The courage, stamina and courage of some athletes can only be admired. They got to the medals through incredible pain. The Austrian skier Hermann Mayer at the Nagano Olympics, for example, flew off the track at a speed of 100 km / h, hit his head on the ground and flew through all the barriers.
              The fall of the Austrian looked so terrible that most athletes in his place would never have returned to the track. But Mayer, despite numerous bruises and fear, did not withdraw from the competition and again went to the start.
              As a result, it was in Nagano that the Austrian won both of his gold medals at the Olympics: in the supergiant and giant slalom. Fans after this act began to call him Horminator.
              TURIN-2006. FIGURE SKATING. Tribute to Zhang (China)
              At the Olympic Games in Turin, a real sporting feat was made by the Chinese figure skater Dan Zhang, who paired with Hao Zhang in the competition of sports couples. After a short program, they were inferior to Tatyana Tatmyanina and Maxim Marinin and were forced to take risks at random.
              In one of these moments, performing an outburst of four turns, the risk did not materialize, and Zhang fell onto the ice from a sufficiently high height. During the fall, she hit her knee on the ice, and then crashed her back into the side. The pain was so severe that the skater hardly rose from the ice, and the program was stopped. It was all the more surprising to learn after a few minutes that Zhang decided to go back to the venue and continue the fight. This moment was the culmination of the competition of sports couples. The rules did not stipulate what actions the judges should take, but, seeing the reaction of the public and the desire of the athlete herself, they allowed the couple to prove their program to the end.
              The Zhangs not only completed the competition, but also won silver medals. As it turned out later, during the fall, Tribute sprained knee ligaments. The skater was forced to miss a month due to injury and only at the last moment managed to recover for the World Cup
              1. 0
                14 February 2014 20: 33
                Do you even know what a back injury in skaters is? My friend wears bolts in his back. At first, as usual, he dragged gravity. And then, when three of the four broke down, he began to take care.
            3. +1
              14 February 2014 20: 20
              extension
              ANCUVER-2010. FIGURE SKATING. Joannie Rochette (CANADA)
              A terrible tragedy happened in the personal life of Canadian figure skater Joannie Rochette a few days before the start of the women's singles competition at the 2010 Olympics. Joanie's mother died, who specially came to support her in Vancouver from her native Montreal. If the skater had withdrawn from the competition, no one would have dared to condemn her, but she gathered her will into a fist and went to the start.
              After a short program, Joannie cried in front of the eyes of 11 thousand spectators, who at that moment also could not hold back their tears. And according to the results of the free program, it became clear that she won the bronze medal, which she dedicated to her mother. All Canada was proud of her, the whole world was delighted with the strength of spirit of Joannie. Following the results of the Games, she received an award for courage and the will to win.
              VANCOUVER 2010. SKIING. PETRA MAYDICH (SLOVENIA)
              Even the gold of Canadian hockey players could not overshadow the feat of the Slovenian skier Petra Maidic at the Olympics in Vancouver. She was considered one of the main favorites in the fight for victory in the classic sprint, but the situation changed when at the warm-up Majdic did not fit into the speed turn, falling into a ravine and crashing into a tree. A skier suffered a fracture of four ribs and damaged a lung. Her continued participation in the competition was a big question.
              However, Petra continued to fight. She held all competitions, starting with qualification, overcoming acute pain. She was led to the start by hand, and after each of the four finishes she hardly left the track. The Slovenian was especially hard during her last performance, after which she was taken away from the arena in her arms, but already in the status of the owner of a bronze award! Majdic was already taken away from the awarding ceremony in a wheelchair and after some time was taken to one of the Vancouver clinics by helicopter.
              By the decree of the President of Slovenia, Maidic was awarded the Golden Order of Merit. As for the medal, then, as the skier said, for her she became not a bronze, but a diamond. Note that this was the first ever award for Slovenia in cross-country skiing at the Olympic Games.
              SOCHI 2014. SKIING. JUSTINA KOVALCHIK (POLAND)
              Four years later, Justina Kowalczyk was in Meydich's place, who competed with the Slovenian in Vancouver and then took second place. In late January, she received an injury to her left foot, and already in Sochi, after a duathlon, where she took sixth place, Kovalchik performed an X-ray examination, which revealed that she had a multilevel fracture of the foot bone. Perhaps at that moment Justina recalled Maidich's feat and decided to start the classic style in the 10 km race.
              As a result, the Polish woman won the gold medal, ahead of her closest rival by 18 seconds. “I drank the medicine before the race and did not feel pain in my leg. It was very difficult for me to train for the last three weeks because of my broken leg. In Poland, many discussed my situation. I am very glad that I found the strength to win. It was one of the most difficult races in my life, especially the last two kilometers. There was a rise, the sun was melting the snow. I endured as best I could, "Kowalczyk said after the finish.
          2. +12
            14 February 2014 08: 54
            Quote: atalef
            Plushenko is an outstanding athlete, still not focusing on this incident, let's recall his previous achievements

            Who can argue that Plushenko has merits for the country. But yesterday he ruined himself. Plushenko got to the Olympics "by pulling", losing the Russian championship and not going to Europe, according to the results of a test run, which no one has seen. But even here, not all was lost. He could have gone as an Olympic champion, but one medal was not enough for him. Now he will be remembered as a person because of whose ambitions Russia will be represented by only one skater at the 2018 Olympics.
            Generation change in sports is normal, the main thing is to leave on time. His coach says that back problems appeared immediately after the team ones, but Plushenko still showed up for an individual. And as soon as he starred "with a back injury" he was giving interviews from the TV screens, he was advertising his March tour of Russia.
            And what a shame, neither to the fans, nor to the boys, who, unlike him in the pre-Olympic series, showed real results, but lost the opportunity to speak at the Olympics, he not only did not apologize, but also said that he had nothing to apologize for.
            1. +5
              14 February 2014 09: 52
              I support! Took on a tug do not say that not a dozen.
              1. +10
                14 February 2014 10: 38
                according to the situation, what I’m not eating, I’ll bite. No wonder they say that pride is the first sin, our champion put his personal ambitions above the interests of the country.
                He, by the way, after the Chess Olympiad, i.e. a country tour is planned, how to deal with it?
                1. +8
                  14 February 2014 11: 13
                  They all said and wrote correctly. I agree with you.
                  Vaughn Yulia Kovalchik 10 km worked, suffered pain because she knew that she did not have the right to let those who worry about her.
                  And the ivy immediately starred ... although I personally do not believe in his tales !!!
                  1. +9
                    14 February 2014 11: 42
                    Quote: Ossetian.
                    And the ivy immediately starred ... although I personally do not believe in his tales !!!

                    Possibly. Fear of leaving the vanquished. Against the Japanese in the individual competition, he had no chance. And so the golden one in the team, the Olympic champion, left due to injury. Hero and only
                    Ch.M. Oh yes only.
                    1. +4
                      14 February 2014 13: 35
                      I think so too.
                      I still think that he turned from a hero into an antihero !!!
                2. +5
                  14 February 2014 14: 07
                  Quote: Middle Brother
                  after the Chess Olympiad, i.e. a country tour is planned, how to deal with it?
                  He will be at St. Novgorod in March. The men at work said that we need to buy eggs now and put them in a warm place
                3. 0
                  15 February 2014 07: 24
                  Will go! This is for the grandmothers ...
            2. -1
              14 February 2014 11: 28
              Quote: Arhj
              His coach says that back problems appeared immediately after the team ones, but Plushenko still showed up for an individual. And as soon as he appeared "with a back injury" from the TV screens he was giving interviews, he was advertising his March tour in Russia.


              The same trainer clearly explained that replacing one athlete with another is possible only when a new injury is received. So why did he have to get it on purpose?

              Z.Y. I can not stand those who criticize on the basis of half information. It looks wretched.
              1. Fin
                +6
                14 February 2014 12: 38
                Quote: carver
                The same trainer clearly explained that replacing one athlete with another is possible only when a new injury is received. So why did he have to get it on purpose?

                Are you from the moon? He has a lifelong injury OPERATION on the spine! There are 99 load limits! Take off the individual in a timely manner and no one would say anything! Mutko said: Replacement was possible only immediately after the team tournament.
              2. +7
                14 February 2014 15: 20
                Quote: carver
                Z.Y. I can not stand those who criticize on the basis of half information. It looks wretched.

                Only Plushenko himself has complete information, neither his supporters nor his opponents can only believe or not believe. I only analyze what I see and hear. And I see that an athlete who has just withdrawn from the competition due to back pain, which is difficult to sit with in a normal situation, immediately after an injury, is treated and gives an interview and advertises a show that takes a little over three weeks and where, apparently, the back is not needed.
                I also remember how many times this athlete withdrew from the competition if something went wrong, and tomorrow the injury miraculously passed, as he refused to go to the official tournament to play for the country, and went to the commercial to play for money. I remember Plushenko not shy about pouring mud on Yagudin and Kovtun, who had the nerve to beat him, as I missed the pre-Olympic training. And I remember how he got to the Olympics.
                But wretched ... Wretchedly turn the Olympiad, on which the honor of the country depends, into a booth for the sake of self-promotion.
                And what happened, sorry, looks like petty revenge for the defeat at the Russian championship or the desire to attract additional attention.
      2. +19
        14 February 2014 07: 26
        Quote: Vladimir.z.
        It is necessary to really assess your abilities and desires .... But unfortunately, high ambitions overshadow the mind ....

        I completely agree!!! No one denies Plushenko’s merit in figure skating. No one encroaches on his patriotism. Does not question the good motives of his participation in the current situation. He does not even doubt a decent result with a favorable set of circumstances. But there is another aspect - this is the guilt of those who agreed to Plushenko’s participation with full knowledge of his health information. I'm not longing for a lost medal in the team event. I am sorry for the guys who won the Russian championship, performed with dignity in Europe and flew past the Olympics. And the experience gained on it would be very useful to them, regardless of the result. And so ... In addition to disappointment and a sullen disbelief in justice, so far this educated decision of those in power has not raised anything in them. So this act comes back to us both in future performances and in future skaters. And now we just have a donut hole. It is a pity that the honored guy agreed to this adventure, he predicted the fate of young boys. Yes, and disappointed the fans
        1. +3
          14 February 2014 10: 34
          Quote: smel
          But there is another aspect - this is the guilt of those who agreed to Plushenko’s participation with full knowledge of his health information.


          Or the guilt of those who insisted on his participation. This is not the same thing.

          Quote: smel
          I am sorry for the guys who won the Russian championship, performed with dignity in Europe and flew past the Olympics.


          Yes, Voronova and Menshov are sincerely sorry.
          1. 0
            14 February 2014 11: 02
            Yes, Voronova and Menshov are sincerely sorry.
            And it will be very unfortunate when they share the fate of those who studied and prepared in our country, and they win medals for another. I hope you do not need to give examples. And even for this Olympics. And there are more than enough people who want to speculate on this situation
    3. +7
      14 February 2014 06: 56
      All 143 657 134 people in Russia and it is not known how many people in the world were rooting for Zhenya at the Olympics and who would be happy for the gold that he took if he hadn’t withdrawn from the Olympic Games and would not have returned his health. So it is necessary to understand and support it, and not to water shit !!! And how he takes the gold is OUR, but how a little something so SHAME !!! Wrong it is IMHO !!!!
      1. +18
        14 February 2014 07: 01
        There are wonderful proverbs: I took the tug, do not say that not a dozen. Gruzdev called himself get in the body; Whoever goes to horses carries water; I went to the priests, serve and requiem. Everything else is from the evil one.
        1. +6
          14 February 2014 07: 40
          The truth of the day is such that they are sent to perform, mainly, not the best athletes, but those who pay more. Those who defend Plushenko so vehemently, want to say that there was no better athlete? Who won the Russian championship with us, do not remind !? Or did you forget that at the beginning It was the young athlete who wanted to send to perform! ?? Forgot how the same Plushenko, because of this, broke up and got hurt! ??
          Yes, you can’t reduce the merits of this athlete, but there is his fault, his egoism was the reason that we have, he wanted to show himself, well done, SHOWN! I am offended to hear the statements of some people that supposedly in the team performances it was Plushenko who achieved the victory of our team, this is complete nonsense, the team won! You need to be able to leave on time and with dignity!
          I regret that Kovtun did not speak ...
          1. +1
            15 February 2014 07: 34
            It annoys me too. Plushenko understood very well that the team was strong and could not lose, and he could easily cut gold, and as it came to business, he was in the bushes. The hero is not him, but Justin Kowalczyk!
        2. +11
          14 February 2014 07: 51
          Quote: marsel1524
          There are wonderful proverbs: I took the tug, do not say that not a dozen. Gruzdev called himself get in the body; Whoever goes to horses carries water; I went to the priests, serve and requiem. Everything else is from the evil one.


          And then there is this: "You can't wed ... don't torture your ass"!

          Plushenko was publicized, they even shot it in advertising, but to the point of 0. I personally support those who believe that he was not fucked to do at the Olympics.
    4. Horde
      +6
      14 February 2014 07: 23
      Quote: Berimor 2
      The Olympic disgrace of Russia!


      Plushenko should be ready for the HUNDRED FOUR YEARS OLD FOUR YEARS OLD percent, if he allowed an injury to occur then it is NON-PROFESSIONAL, so they don’t prepare for the MAIN competitions of life ...
      1. +3
        14 February 2014 10: 41
        no one is safe from injuries, but going to competitions with an injury that is not sure in advance of victory, but only with a very great desire is wrong, to say the least.
    5. waisson
      +26
      14 February 2014 07: 23
      Shot poddyh. Olympic champion Aleksey Yagudin called the Russian skater Evgeni Plushenko, who had withdrawn from the lone skaters tournament at the Olympics, uncompetitive. As Yagudin said, Plushenko said that he was ready to play only in the team tournament, but not in the personal one.
      NTV Plus commentator Georgy Cherdantsev commented on Evgeni Plushenko’s decision to withdraw from the men's figure skating singles tournament at the Olympics in Sochi.
      As you know, Plushenko made such a decision shortly before his appearance in the short program. Later, the 31-year-old skater said that he could not go on the ice because of back pain.
      “It is a complete feeling that the whole story with Plushenko is a vile, planned setup. I don’t even want to delve into. God be their judge.
      There would be an even more unpleasant aftertaste if Plushenko took a medical certificate immediately after the command, while there was still the possibility of replacement, ”wrote Cherdantsev
      Sergey Voronov and Maxim Kovtun were declared reserve for the Olympic tournament from Russia. The latter is the current champion of the country. However, now it’s too late to declare a short program for the reservist.
      Vladimir Zhirinovsky promised to “disperse” the Figure Skating Federation, if her bet on the titled Evgeni Plushenko, as a leader in single skating, would be a failure.
      sorry for yesterday’s repetition of what was written
      1. Horde
        +2
        14 February 2014 07: 35
        Quote: waisson
        Vladimir Zhirinovsky promised to “disperse” the Figure Skating Federation, if her bet on the titled Evgeni Plushenko, as a leader in single skating, would be a failure.


        unpleasant, he would only dance at Eurovision ...
        1. +17
          14 February 2014 09: 08
          in continuation of the topic
          1. +10
            14 February 2014 09: 12
            "we are waiting for Plushenko at the Paralympics"
      2. +3
        14 February 2014 09: 05
        What is there to say
      3. +13
        14 February 2014 09: 05
        here is that post
    6. -3
      14 February 2014 08: 41
      In the group event, Plushenko brought gold.
      1. +3
        14 February 2014 09: 18
        and without Rudkovsky would have done! Max his result in the short program is 97. At the Olympic Games he showed 91 - judging by yesterday's short program - he could only count on the “bronze”. he knew it beforehand. and the "gold" in the team he received the labor of the team.
      2. -2
        14 February 2014 11: 15
        Judging by the cons to me and the others. On the site "finally" appeared people who, if Russia is good, then they feel bad.
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +4
          14 February 2014 11: 20
          Quote: Gardamir
          Judging by the cons to me and the others. On the site "finally" appeared people who, if Russia is good, then they feel bad.


          Here, in principle, I did not put you a minus. Although it would be worth ...:
          1. all this so-called group tournament in figure skating .. it's all FICTION !!!
          2. Plushenko did not bring gold in the group. took the SECOND PLACE
    7. -8
      14 February 2014 09: 10
      And what did you personally (except for paying taxes, we all pay them) did for the Olympic triumph? Well, maybe at least we went to Sochi to root for ours?
      1. +10
        14 February 2014 12: 00
        Quote: Andrey 447
        ? Well, maybe at least we went to Sochi to cheer for ours?

        With current prices for travel, accommodation, meals, tickets, this Olympics is not for the common people, not for the majority of the country's population. Our destiny is television.
        1. +1
          14 February 2014 13: 50
          I'm going tomorrow with my wife. I will live in Lazarevsky 1000 rubles a day for a 2-bed room, a decent hotel rested there in the summer. An electric train to Sochi 1h20m price for 2x-100 rubles. Tickets were bought late (2 days ago), that's why they are expensive. Krasnodar go families without spending the night, by train.
    8. +16
      14 February 2014 09: 42
      One feels the muddy handwriting of Rudkovskaya.
      Gold in individual competitions Plushenko did not shine and everyone understood this
      He cannot afford to leave with a bronze or even a pedestal, ahead of the Russian and world tour
      Yana began to actively earn money on his behalf, because a lot has been invested in promotion;

      If it were not for the team competition, Plushenko most likely would not have gone to the Olympics
      He needed fresh gold, but earned together, in a gangbang, you can freebie.
      I do not like Plushenko in that there is always some fuss around his name
      Now here he is in the role of a heroic victim

      Let him go young and stuff himself with cones, but that would be garlic ...

      Plushenko is not particularly judging, but he once again confirmed that he was no longer an athlete, but a showman ..
      Sad ...
      But there was more Arshavin in the country.
      Honor and praise to Maxim Kovtun. He declined to comment on the situation at the Olympic figure skating competitions. Decent behavior. I hope that at the next Olympics he will win his Olympic well-deserved medal. Sport is not only anatomy and physiology. Sport is Ethics, which Plushenko violated, but Kovtun - no.
      1. Fin
        +5
        14 February 2014 10: 16
        Quote: kris
        One feels the muddy handwriting of Rudkovskaya.

        I fully support. My wife had a similar spinal operation, there is a whole year of restriction in everything. Any jumping is FORBIDDEN for life. He had an operation in February 2013 - not a year has passed. Any neuropathologist, even after graduation, will not take the responsibility of releasing him on the ice. What the federation of figure skating thought there remains a mystery, Zhirik correctly said - to disperse.
        I think everyone saw what Rudkovskaya sat nailed on the podium, and more recently there was an interview with them, where she showed herself to be maximalist. And the fact that she kicked her husband out on the ice for fame and money I have no doubt. They both knew that this could lead to disability and still trampled ... Well, come out on the team and take off, give Kovtun a try, or vice versa. And now a new operation and a moan on the box what kind of hero he is.
        Rudkovskaya's greed and thirst for glory ruined.
      2. Candy wrapper
        -3
        14 February 2014 14: 15
        Well done kris, clearly laid out everything! So it was all, most likely. And the places of the creators of the opening ceremony were also divided out of mercenary motives (the creator of the opening ceremony is a favorable mark in the resume), and therefore they received it at the exit.
    9. +2
      14 February 2014 10: 08
      The man said, while drinking beer on the couch and not knowing what a horizontal bar, bars, pain in undeveloped ligaments and balancing on the verge of disability.
    10. +7
      14 February 2014 10: 20
      And what a shame?

      Shame that put a disabled person? Or what 10 years could not prepare him a replacement?
      Or a shame that the quota for two participants was not pulled?

      No, great at you.

      Regarding the so-called ambitions - who has not seen - his problems, but in a press conference after Solchi's approval, none other than Putin said to the camera that "we will ask Plushenko to speak well." Is it a scrap or am I wrong?

      Farther. Yelling about the fact that without him would have won the team competition. Well, you learned howl. Now try to learn how to use the calculator. Subtract Plushenko from the total 19 points and add what Kovtun could bring to the piggy bank. How much, based on his place at the World Cup? 5 or 6?

      In the sports committee, we have a lot of freaks. But they know how to count. And winning Kovtun CR ... do not make my liver laugh. But the fact that not having shown himself outside the country, he already started talking about performances for another country - an indicator.

      Plushenko was a tit in his hands. Which can bring something unambiguously. And the Crane Kovtun in the sky is another question. So I understand the idiots from OCD. The Olympics are in the yard, and we are not ready as always.

      In general, with this approach we will go far unambiguously.
      1. 0
        14 February 2014 12: 10
        Quote: Banshee
        Plushenko was a tit in his hands.

        Yes, it’s more likely that he is in an ice hole, so that he does not sink.
        Rudkovskaya will cure her, then she will take the "hero" across the country, and show him for the money.
    11. -2
      14 February 2014 12: 55
      I agree !!! Plushenko is a shame for our team! And he is not a king, but some kind of daffodil. Why explain to me to go to the Olympics with a sore back? In the hope of crawling through, they say, native walls, the judges will not find fault, but in fact in the team competition only three times, and his gold is the merit of Volosozhar and Trankov, and Yulenka Lipnitskaya. After the team competition, he realized that nothing could shine for him. He cannot do quarter jumps, and all his rivals twist out as they want, so the illness has come at the time! The intrigue on which he got to the Olympics may become clearer after the competition. Kovtun, when asked by correspondents: “Why was he not taken to the Olympics?”, Answered that all the comments were after the Olympics. Most likely he was given to understand that you do not belong here, but a place for the "king." So we got what we got. Plushenko is not, he is the gold medalist of the Olympics in team competitions, and will remain so. Still, they say that he is a prize-winner, and do not specify that in the team. And in the individual, alas, he could not have taken anything, and that would have been his shame. Plushenko not, but maybe this is Rudkovskaya's tip.
    12. vampik88
      0
      14 February 2014 17: 00
      the only shame on this site is YOU !!!!!!
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  2. +16
    14 February 2014 06: 45
    Our time will be famous for
    what created fear for the sake of
    a new version of hermophrodite:
    Flesh, men, but in spirit - b ..... and.

    girls with broken legs and ribs protrude ... and this one, took a young and promising place, in the Kovtun group would also become a champion.
    1. +9
      14 February 2014 06: 55
      Totally agree with you! Justina Kovalchik with a broken leg took gold, and this is a miracle ...
    2. +1
      14 February 2014 10: 30
      Yes, you are all right with the verbiage. Especially in terms of comparing the spine assembled with screws and cracked ribs and the possible consequences. Only this young and promising one turned out to be on the 5th place in Europe, and in Soča he would be in ... opera. BUT BUT WOULD GET EXPERIENCE, and you would again write "take it for hell." And the whole team would drag this promising one. For sure Plushenko is a difficult compromise, both for himself and for the Federation. Well, why do we love our Russians so Russian to spit, from where in us is this ????
      1. Candy wrapper
        +4
        14 February 2014 14: 34
        But don’t close other people's miscalculations in national sports with your ass, saving someone else’s political reputation and other people's mercenary interests.
  3. -2
    14 February 2014 06: 47
    Article plus, Eugene man. Respect.
    1. +7
      14 February 2014 13: 25
      Quote: dark_65
      Article plus, Eugene man. Respect.
      1. 0
        14 February 2014 19: 18
        God, he is not blind, give you your desires. Yes to yourself ...
      2. waisson
        +1
        14 February 2014 23: 15
        Yes, probably it will be so, but there it will crawl out at the expense of others and then what ......
      3. 0
        15 February 2014 00: 14
        http://inosmi.ru/overview/20140214/217513819.html
  4. +6
    14 February 2014 06: 48
    a very muddy and incomprehensible story ...
    1. waisson
      -7
      14 February 2014 07: 25
      he had already bought in Israel
      1. waisson
        0
        14 February 2014 23: 13
        about Israel it’s his words I don’t remember which press wrote his interview
  5. +16
    14 February 2014 06: 54
    I’m wondering, but we don’t have young athletes at all? Where are our skiers, skaters, biathletes? ...
    1. Apache
      +9
      14 February 2014 07: 01
      Quote: hort
      Where are our skiers, skaters, biathletes? ...

      But this is the right question !!!
      1. +5
        14 February 2014 08: 33
        Quote: Apache
        Where are our skiers, skaters, biathletes? ...


        There are also very talented ones. It’s just that there’s so much money in this sport ... And sponsors will not give money to untwisted athletes, but if they don’t give it, someone can fly by the ticket office. In Ufa, we have a huge and classy biotlon complex (one of the best in Russia). Do you think there are no talents ??? There is!!! But for some reason, they do not go beyond the regional level .... This is strange.
        1. +1
          14 February 2014 23: 08
          “Glavpakhan! Biathlon Prokhorov, still need comments?
    2. kavkaz8888
      +9
      14 February 2014 08: 25
      Hort Today, 06:54
      "... Where are our skiers, figure skaters, biathletes? ..."

      Apache Today, 07:01
      "... But this is the right question !!! ..."

      Probably where the standards of the TRP, DOSAAF, normal physical education in schools, etc. In short, in ... in ... In general, everything is sad.
  6. +12
    14 February 2014 06: 54
    At least he in team competitions skated perfectly together with Julia Lepnitskaya, which helped us win gold. And injuries, they all happen, and sometimes those that put an end to a sports career. IMHO. hi
    1. waisson
      +2
      14 February 2014 07: 29
      no need to compare him with Lipnitskaya how much he brought the team points how much it even if it crashed and this had to happen at the expense of Julia we would be the first
    2. +4
      14 February 2014 07: 52
      Quote: major071
      At least he in team competitions skated perfectly together with Julia Lepnitskaya, which helped us win gold. And injuries, they all happen, and sometimes those that put an end to a sports career. IMHO.

      He is certainly a great athlete, but in Sochi he came as a showman! Today he has lost to young Kovtun in Russia, and where is Kovtun now? - the telly is watching at home because they didn’t take him !! Russia for 30 years, for the first time was left without a medal in the men's singles! And Zhenya, he’s got a lot of fun !!
      1. +8
        14 February 2014 09: 54
        COLLEAGUES! What are you doing here kicking the "dead lion" ????? Your discussion is more like spitting on a person, but how can that be ???? Are you trying to become like "Western jackals" ???? You can't throw mud at a person who has done so much for our figure skating, you and I have no moral right to do so. What happened at the Olympics is the echo of the "glorious" 90s, when we lost a whole generation of athletes in all sports.
        1. Fin
          +8
          14 February 2014 10: 22
          Quote: Andrey 447
          COLLEAGUES! What are you doing here kicking the "dead lion" ????? Your discussion is more like spitting on a person, but how can that be ???? Are you trying to become like "Western jackals" ???? You can't throw mud at a person who has done so much for our figure skating,

          Nobody belittles his merits. Thanks to him for what he has done for the country. Any champion should leave while giving way to the young, prompting, and if necessary, inspiring his presence.
          Or do you need to take on national teams on past merits?
      2. 0
        14 February 2014 23: 09
        are you a fighter .. or so, bullshit?
    3. +4
      14 February 2014 09: 53
      Quote: major071
      At least he in team competitions skated perfectly together with Julia Lepnitskaya, which helped us win gold.

      At the team competition, he skated well, but it must be borne in mind that few countries are able to put out full-fledged teams and a significant part of them, hoping for medals, decided to save their first numbers. If there was still competition in the short program, then in the free-style for single men, the second squad consisted entirely. Hence the first place in Plushenko’s arbitrary. And in short he was only the second.
  7. +7
    14 February 2014 07: 00
    An honored athlete and patriot, BUT IN THE PAST, now he acted like a dog in the manger and we don’t have to shift everything to the federation, although the coaches are undoubtedly guilty. And the exorbitant ambitions of Plushenko and Rudkovskaya led to such a deplorable result.
    1. waisson
      +3
      14 February 2014 07: 30
      are not patriots in the past
      1. Candy wrapper
        0
        14 February 2014 14: 39
        And what about General Vlasov?
        1. 11111mail.ru
          +1
          14 February 2014 18: 02
          Quote: Fantik
          And what about General Vlasov?

          They forgot to mention the "general from history" Mr. Volkogonov.
  8. Apache
    +11
    14 February 2014 07: 00
    Guys, why such a negative towards Plushenko? I myself believe that his participation was superfluous. But why do you forget his past victories? He did a lot for Russia, he performed in the team championship with a terrible back injury - at least it is worthy of respect!
    I would not ask him questions, but the federation. In vain ... In vain you are so.
    By the way, where are the biathletes, where are the sleigh riders, the sleigh riders on their track were supposed to tear everyone in a row. You look what the Netherlands is doing in the skates ...
    1. +6
      14 February 2014 09: 07
      Quote: Apache
      But why do you forget his past victories?

      Nobody forgets them, but Plushenko had to stop on time, give the young a way.
      1. Apache
        +4
        14 February 2014 09: 16
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Nobody forgets them, but Plushenko had to stop on time, give the young a way.

        These are ambitions, ambitions that made him a two-time Olympic champion. I wanted to get a third medal, but my health is not iron. I feel sorry for him humanly.
  9. +4
    14 February 2014 07: 20
    Evgeni Plushenko, made his contribution to the team “gold”, I think if another skater was in the team, there would not be this gold either. So Zhenya should be thanked for this medal, just like the rest of the skaters! And at the expense of whom he did not let in, whose place he took in the Olympic wrestling - TIME WILL READ! We will see how young guys will perform at the next European and World competitions, then we will see who was right!
    And now - Eugene - Olympic CHAMPION, he proved it! Well, health - only GOD knows what will happen and when, and you cannot blame him. Health to him, and quickly heal the mental trauma from what happened.
  10. +6
    14 February 2014 07: 21
    Plushenko, one of the most odious figures in sports, hasn’t climbed out of television with her equally odious little wife in recent years in our sports. And here is the result of this PR. And to Plushenko’s supporters, I can say one thing where Fair play is.
    1. 0
      14 February 2014 23: 12
      make a quarter of it .. and whine yourself unselected ....
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  12. +6
    14 February 2014 07: 32
    I respect Plushenko. But what he did yesterday is a spit in the face of all the fans. On the same day, a Polish woman with a broken ankle fled the ski race. This is the Olympics, get out of the skin but participate! What can I say if Mr. Plushenko was not selected to the team according to the Olympic principle ?! From films praising this celestial with a lean face, his general sponsor Rutkovskaya is already sick! It’s time for Evgeny to shut up the actor, and he decided to wave the antiquity by removing young promising athletes from the Olympics. There are no words !!!!
  13. +18
    14 February 2014 07: 50
    This story with Plushenko shows how our country relate to competition, honest game, sports principles, everyone pities Plushenko, but few think about how the boy Kovtun felt when you did well, you won but at the Olympics you won’t go, and I won’t be surprised if after all of a sudden he flies under a different flag, and you and I will be indignant at why this happened. Everything in the country is decided behind the scenes, for our own, even in sports, no one is responsible for failures.
  14. +6
    14 February 2014 07: 52
    Let colleagues in order.
    1. The President asked Plushenko to speak at the Olympics a few years ago.
    2. After the Chechen Republic, it was announced that Kovtun would go, but the guy went to Che and decided that he should go PLYUSHCHENKO. He didn’t decide, but the officials.
    3. What kind of PR are you talking about if a person has such an injury. what do you think he? And didn’t understand that he could act disgustingly? So why would he end his career? because no one would have thought to condemn him if he refused. But the man went.
    4. Is Plushenko to blame for the fact that in addition to him there are no normal men of figure skaters in Russia. Let me remind you that Russia could not put more than one athlete, just because the quota did not allow. And quotas are given based on the achievements of the country. And them after the departure of Eugene was not.
    5 and the last. Our officials dragged PLYUSHCHENKO to the Olympiad because they made a bet on IT. They were afraid that in Skates we might be left without medals. and for our country it’s a shame. Women are very young Julia. How would she skate who knew? Yes, no one.
    Who knew Kovtun? Yes, no one. As a result, we could be left without medals in the male, female, and God knows how it would have happened in the doubles. The same thing in the team. So officials decided that only Plushenko is guaranteed to be able to fight for the victory. So they dragged him.
    Easy sitting in front of a TV set with chips and beer, yelling what an eccentric there is. To the letter M.
    I think so. What Plushenko did is worthy of respect. And I think that if he could ride, he. would roll
    1. ed65b
      0
      14 February 2014 08: 27
      I completely agree with you Andrew on all points. A PLUS. From myself I want to add Zhenya made a real feat as our soldiers were wounded in the Second World War and went to tanks with the last grenade. so is he. Huge respect for Eugene and all our Olympians. And I myself know with a sore back not only not to jump but also to get out of bed it’s hard and even the sheepskin coats and axel can be twisted only in dreams.
      1. -1
        14 February 2014 23: 15
        and you thought. that hamsters do not exist? .. they (stsuki) are ..
    2. +5
      14 February 2014 09: 02
      Quote: volkan
      I think so. What Plushenko did is worthy of respect. And I think that if he could ride, he. would roll

      Quite right. All this snot about the set-up from the opera, "something is always thicker in the wrong hands."
    3. +2
      14 February 2014 09: 26
      "4. Is it Plushenko's fault that apart from him there are no normal male figure skaters in Russia. Let me remind you that Russia could not nominate more than one athlete, only because the quota did not allow. And quotas are given based on the country's achievements. And they are after the departure of Evgeny DID NOT HAVE."
      Please remind me how it happened that the owner of the Olympic Games only has one place for men - singles. Is it because the "great" did not participate in the last World Cup?
      1. +1
        14 February 2014 12: 17
        Quote: mpa945
        Please remind me how it happened that the owner of the Olympic Games only has one place for men - singles. Is it because the "great" did not participate in the last World Cup?


        Perhaps he is to blame for this?
        He did not participate because he WAS CARRYING OUT. And he was asked by big uncles to return to Sochi.
        And why, apart from him, our country cannot give worthy skaters, this is not a question for him. Is not it.
        Probably to officials from sports ..... and to be honest with you and me .. that is, to society.
        so separate the flies from the cutlets.
    4. +5
      14 February 2014 09: 59
      Quote: volkan
      He didn’t decide, but the officials.

      Sorry of course. But how do you explain Plushenko’s interview when he claimed to be 100% ready for the Olympics, showed his scars on his back, claiming that the spine was normal. They even showed a separate film about the operation. And all this information went in an avalanche immediately after the decision of the Olympic Committee to justify the violation of the charter.
      1. +1
        14 February 2014 12: 21
        Quote: edeligor
        Sorry of course. But how do you explain Plushenko’s interview when he claimed to be 100% ready for the Olympics, showed his scars on his back, claiming that the spine was normal. They even showed a separate film about the operation. And all this information went in an avalanche immediately after the decision of the Olympic Committee to justify the violation of the charter.

        So I’ll answer ..
        So he thought he was ready.
        And in the team event, it showed.
        And the funny thing is that if there wasn’t this team, he would have skated his lonely ... he took the gold and left ... 7A you would have pissed boiling water here.
        And then it turned out that the load was increased 2 times more than usual. Well, I could not stand it .... So what? mix with shit?
        Who are you mixing? the person who took GOLD a few days ago? Just for the second time that his health has let us down?
        Well, not mu ... if you gentlemen ....
        1. +4
          14 February 2014 15: 43
          Quote: volkan
          Well, not mu ... if you gentlemen ....

          Something very soft what Lovers yell -Akela missed! always enough Only they are always called jackals am
        2. +2
          14 February 2014 16: 55
          Quote: volkan
          7A would you piss boiling water here.

          Nobody (as I think it’s possible for a man to personally blame Plushenko that he is such and such). He was persuaded and he agreed. His merit in the country in the field of sports and figure skating is obvious, it is important that he succumbed and took someone's place. Overestimated its capabilities it is bad as a result, a country without medals and it is watered by taking out its anger on it. Let's look at such things more objectively!
        3. 11111mail.ru
          0
          14 February 2014 18: 12
          Quote: volkan
          Well, not mu ... if you gentlemen ....

          Well, the result is there! Those. x .. we face the whole barefoot! We look at the results of the Games ... Where are the results? Where is the material evidence in the form of gold, silver, bronze circles on ribbons? Wanted the best? But it turned out ...
          1. +2
            14 February 2014 23: 17
            so go out .. ride .. hysterical
  15. +6
    14 February 2014 07: 53
    Honestly, the situation is again not clear for Plushenko, all in bolts and prostheses, why go to the Olympiad in this form, especially since he already had the gold of the Olympiad in his asset, if he wanted to remind himself, he would skate a group one, and then on the same Kovtun was replaced, but perhaps he would not have won medals, but would have gained good experience and incentive to develop, and so the strongest minus morality. In general, Mudko begins to remind the well-known unfortunately, the former Minister of Defense Taburetkin also apparently does everything in his power to finish off the sport, but how else to explain this story with Plushenko, with Kuzmina who could not find a place in the team and as a result, the gold went to Slovakia , as young athletes should make their way to the national team, when in 99% of cases preference is given to veterans and do not care that there are already a lot of injuries and age. I am still wondering how Julia made her way, if there were an analogue of Plushenko, too, probably would have flown by. The army is being updated, it would be time for Russian sport to catch this trend.
    1. +1
      14 February 2014 17: 44
      Watch an interview with Moskvina. Again bureaucrats at the expense of the blood of our guys, who have health who have a chance to solve their problems. And Zhenya did more for the country than we all put together on this site to the Great Russian Figure Skater soldier drinks
  16. 0
    14 February 2014 08: 01
    Combitor (3) SU ... And who and how "influenced" Rudkovskaya and what and how much promised her for the fact that the semi-disabled Plushenko will be noted in the team competition ...

    waisson SU ... "The full feeling that this whole story with Plushenko is disgusting, planned setup... I don't even want to delve into it. God will judge them all. "

    Andrei Yurievich (4) SU
    a very muddy and incomprehensible story ...

    waisson SU bought he was already going to Israel


    I don’t know what to think ... I don’t want it to be true ...
  17. mr_Doom
    +2
    14 February 2014 08: 20
    The article is very pathetic, but where Koftun is nowhere, Plushenko prepared, and Kovtun for the qualifiers. Plushenko is well done, and knowingly knowing that going out on the ice is ala idiocy.
  18. +6
    14 February 2014 08: 21
    Jackal essence. Akella missed - let's eat - such critics were shown in Mowgli.
    A month of shame for your people - at first, a stale herd, in full swing that the discovery, that the Olympics, now - about what a two-time champion has become a star. I don't even know what kind of slop my "compatriots" will give out after the tournament.
    1. +2
      14 February 2014 08: 48
      Quote: RETX
      Jackal essence. Akella missed - let's eat - such critics were shown in Mowgli.
      A month of shame for your people - at first, a stale herd, in full swing that the discovery, that the Olympics, now - about what a two-time champion has become a star. I don't even know what kind of slop my "compatriots" will give out after the tournament.

      And in sports as always, either on a horse or under a horse, there is no place for snot — otherwise it’s not an athlete — frankly speaking, Plushenko’s statement - he fought to the end - I don’t believe it.
      well, he didn’t have pain and suffering in his eyes, nor with such eyes were he removed from the Olympics
    2. +1
      14 February 2014 10: 03
      Quote: RETX
      I don't even know what kind of slop my "compatriots" will give out after the tournament.

      That's exactly "compatriots" in quotes. "Grant-eaters" and other "human rights activists" pour slop.
  19. +5
    14 February 2014 08: 25
    Long live the king!

    Youngster
    Dad, he's naked!
    silence and an explosion of screams
    Minister of tender feelings (runs to the palace and screams on the go)
    My mother is a blacksmith, father of a washerwoman! Down with the autocracy!
    Youngster
    Both naked and fat!
    Screams
    - Do you hear what the child is saying? He cannot be out of place!
    “He is not an employee!”
    - He is smart, he knows the multiplication table!
    - The king is naked!
    - A wart is on my stomach, and it takes taxes!
    - Belly watermelon, and says - obey!
    - Pimple! There is a pimple with him!
    - And there, it sterilizes!
    King
    Be silent! I'm on purpose. Yes. I'm all on purpose. I command: from now on, everyone should be married naked. Here!
    whistling
    Fools are lousy!
    whistle | king rushes to palace | the first minister, and after him all the courtiers rush after | on an elevated king father and princess
    G.Kh. Andersen (The Naked King)
  20. ed65b
    +6
    14 February 2014 08: 33
    spiteful critics. And with bolts in the spine it’s weak at least just to get out on the ice ??? then **** **** if we ourselves can’t do it, And Zhenya married you and me because no one but him. And his wife understood everything yesterday. Her face was like a stone. Do you seriously think that she was pushing him with paralysis? fool Did she need money, or was his glory not enough? Believe her, she has both. or would it be more pleasant for you to watch Zhenia break paralysis on ice? be all the same humane gentlemen forum users do not become like marsh trolls, now those howls now will raise both Sobchikha and Shenderovichs of all sorts.
    1. +4
      14 February 2014 08: 47
      Quote: ed65b
      spiteful critics. And with bolts in the spine it’s weak at least just to get out on the ice ??? then Neh piz..t if we ourselves can’t do it And Zhenya married us because no one except him. And his wife understood everything yesterday. Her face was like a stone. Do you seriously think that she was pushing him with paralysis? fool Did she need money, or was his glory not enough? Believe her, she has both. or would it be more pleasant for you to watch Zhenia break paralysis on ice? be all the same humane gentlemen forum users do not become like marsh trolls, now those howls now will raise both Sobchikha and Shenderovichs of all sorts.

      Actually, why did he have to go out on the ice in this state? In addition to Zhenya there were still candidates, without names, without titles, but they were just starting their way and participating in the Olympiad, as I already said, could spur them to self-improvement and work on themselves to achieve excellent results. Eugene would sit in the arena among the spectators and watch how the young ride, what is the problem?
      1. ed65b
        +1
        14 February 2014 09: 09
        The problem is that
        4. Is Plushenko to blame for the fact that in addition to him there are no normal men of figure skaters in Russia. Let me remind you that Russia could not put more than one athlete, just because the quota did not allow. And quotas are given based on the achievements of the country. And them after the departure of Eugene was not.

        Andrei said everything correctly. his post.
    2. 0
      14 February 2014 23: 24
      they write this poor .... do not pay attention ..
      but in general it hurts. for what happened with the peasant? for that. who went for the country? .. because there was no one else. Kovtun? not sure. the psyche is a terrible thing.
  21. +1
    14 February 2014 08: 33
    Sorry, but my personal opinion is PR ... After this act for everyone he is a "hero" due to the fact that despite the injury he went on the ice, my opinion is that in any case, having skated completely and completed the program, he would have lost (and here he would not look in the best situation, but he is a "hero") ... It's a shame, but a young and very promising athlete could have played instead of him, and not the injured Plushenko, and that's not the point here " where did the coaches and doctors look ... "Money, comrades, money!" Because of this, there is no place for our young promising athletes in the Olympiad .....
    1. +3
      14 February 2014 08: 40
      Quote: siberko
      Sorry, but personally my opinion is PR ...


      If you once racked your back, then you will realize that such pain and all the attendant problems are not worth any PR.
      1. 0
        14 February 2014 23: 26
        yes where did he .... tiligentu
    2. +5
      14 February 2014 08: 48
      It’s clear that you don’t follow figure skating, they didn’t watch the team performance. Bravo! good
    3. +1
      14 February 2014 10: 39
      What is the meaning of PR Plushenko? Only specifically. Do not write about money, this is not serious.
  22. 0
    14 February 2014 08: 42
    why then go out !?
    1. +2
      14 February 2014 08: 45
      Quote: siberko
      why then go out !?


      To bring us gold as a team. Nobody knew how the back in an individual would behave. I would get a medal all the local critics would bite my tongues, and now this tragedy of the great athlete is like a bone for a dog.
      1. +2
        14 February 2014 08: 57
        You know, not so long ago I had a heart attack (by the way, I was very lucky to stay alive), I transferred it on my feet and at the same time I performed my official duties. And on me hung tens of millions of dollars and many human lives. Tell me, am I also a great athlete or a person who was supposed to do what he was supposed to?
        1. ed65b
          +1
          14 February 2014 09: 12
          Quote: Lantau
          You know, not so long ago I had a heart attack (by the way, I was very lucky to stay alive), I transferred it on my feet and at the same time I performed my official duties. And on me hung tens of millions of dollars and many human lives. Tell me, am I also a great athlete or a person who was supposed to do what he was supposed to?

          I can answer by chance. a neighbor driving 300 km with a heart attack already called an ambulance at home and took him to the hospital, operated on, miraculously saved, he cut all the veins from his legs from his navel to his throat. You just got lucky. maybe you are an athlete. Or maybe your time has not come yet.
          1. +3
            14 February 2014 09: 33
            Good is all that ends well! I am sincerely glad for your neighbor that he survived. He is well done !!! But Plushenko, he knew very well about his problems. Why didn’t he give up OI, because health is one? I listened to his interview before the Olympics, he said that health is good. So he lied or is it true? Each of us does what we must do in our place.
            1. ed65b
              0
              14 February 2014 10: 30
              Quote: Lantau
              He stated that health is good.

              It is not true. Plushenko never said that everything was fine and never stated that he would take it in gold, perfectly understanding the degree of risk. But he still took the gold. And set up the team accordingly.
              1. +1
                14 February 2014 10: 38
                What are you telling me, I heard it with my own ears. You praise him as if he alone conquered everything. It seems that he is not for the team, but the team for him.
                1. ed65b
                  0
                  14 February 2014 11: 42
                  Quote: Lantau
                  What are you telling me, I heard it with my own ears. You praise him as if he alone conquered everything. It seems that he is not for the team, but the team for him.

                  In this case, your words can be addressed to all members of the Russian national hockey team as well as Demchenko and Skeletonists. there are such sports where the team works specifically for one athlete, for example, Formula 1 or cycling, and even strangely enough, football and hockey. hi
                  1. 0
                    14 February 2014 12: 19
                    And here is Formula 1 and Plushenko? Please do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs. And one more thing, I just watched Mutko’s interview in which he told the situation with Plushenko. It turns out they (Plushenko and Mishin) in the morning on the day of the performance they called and were interested in his condition. He made a decision with the coach. Who is he after that? Or maybe Mutko is lying?
                    1. ed65b
                      0
                      14 February 2014 13: 10
                      Everything is clear with you, thanks for the polemic. Remain with your opinion, but I will be with you. hi
                      1. +1
                        14 February 2014 13: 21
                        And everything is clear with you!
  23. +2
    14 February 2014 08: 45
    It’s nice to understand that there are so many skaters among commentators.
  24. +1
    14 February 2014 08: 48
    The Great Athlete, yes, but he doesn’t know what could have happened .... he would have given way to the young ... no pride ....
  25. +2
    14 February 2014 08: 50
    I did not want to write anything about the Olympics until its end. Still, a holiday with joy and sorrow.
    The "critics" are outraged.
    Olympics-war or sport, after all? I don’t know what made Plushenko go to the Olympics - youth, arrogance, or some other external reason. Alas, he is disabled, even if he could skate, even if he won gold. No money is returned to health. Kritikanov please take a tour of traumatology or neurology. Try it on yourself - what it's like to be paralyzed. Maybe you will change your opinion.
    The situation is not one athlete. The lack of mass sports will inevitably lead to similar results.
  26. +1
    14 February 2014 08: 57
    Quote: waisson
    As you know, Plushenko made such a decision shortly before his appearance in the short program. Later, the 31-year-old skater said that he could not go on the ice because of back pain.
    “It is a complete feeling that the whole story with Plushenko is a vile, planned setup. I don’t even want to delve into. God be their judge.

    If all this is true, then who then is Plushenko? In Germany, they would hardly have taken a patient to competitions, especially to the Olympic Games .. But there was a bell on this score ... And didn’t Emelianenko warn that Plushenko was illegally given a place in the Olympic team? Let this Plushenko sit and wait for the Paralympic Games .. No, he didn’t get into his line ... Corruption in the ranks of the NOC is obvious
    1. +1
      14 February 2014 10: 43
      Let this Plushenko sit and wait for the Paralympic Games.Negative for this extremely uncommon phrase
  27. -2
    14 February 2014 09: 05
    Plushenko’s act clearly showed one thing. This person cannot be considered a true athlete. This is something else. He was well aware of his back problems. If you decide to participate in competitions, fight to the end, why the Polish skier Justina Kowalczyk, a woman, by the way, was able to run the entire distance of 10 km with a broken foot, keeping her own will and painkillers and won gold. And our figure skating star ... oh! This is not a man’s deed! This is meanness! And no one, I repeat, no one has the right to express any gratitude to this subject!
    1. +1
      15 February 2014 08: 53
      Quote: sinukvl
      And no one, I repeat, no one has the right to express any gratitude to this subject!


      There it is, Mikhalych ...)))
      And I thought it was a sinful thing that I have the right to speak / write everything as I want / think. Like it guarantees me the Constitution and the President of this country.

      Sorry I didn’t ask you.

      Turnet-potreotism is fierce ...
  28. +6
    14 February 2014 09: 06
    Regarding Kovtun ... Here came the news from a fairly informed source (or posing as such) that Kovtun was seriously talking about the possibility of emigration to another country. Strongly offended to see a guy. Let me remind you that these gold medals were taken by OTHER OURS, who were NOT PUT into the national team.
    1. 0
      14 February 2014 10: 47
      Kovtun seriously spoke about the possibility of emigration to another country If this is true, then Kovtun is more important than homeland, and money. I wouldn’t go with such intelligence.
      1. -1
        14 February 2014 11: 35
        Offer a person to vegetate in Russia?
        1. -1
          14 February 2014 11: 47
          And you obviously think that while studying with our trainers, at our stadiums, for our taxes (if you are a Russian resident) for many years, practically for free, he has the right to such an act. Who brought this Kovtun to the big world international sports? Maybe he himself, as a Filipino athlete, trained without a coach at the rink in a shopping center and went to competitions for his money? Yes, something with decency in Russia became completely sad. Loot and show-offs overshadow the mind.
          1. -2
            14 February 2014 12: 49
            Loot and show-offs as you put it outshine Plushenko’s mind and not Koftunu !!!
      2. -1
        14 February 2014 11: 56
        And what do you think he should bury his potential and desire to speak, for the sake of such as Ivy ??? Or do you think he should wait for 30 years until the turn comes to him ???
        I suppose I'm afraid that because of such situations our best ones will leave to play for other countries (and they will do it right) ... And our OCD will put Plushenko and the like into the competition. If a person was once a champion, this does not give him the right to fail the COUNTRY.

        And patriotism has nothing to do with it. If they don’t notice him or want to notice him, then what should he do ... Quit sports or something ???

        You have a strange train of thought.
        1. +2
          14 February 2014 13: 33
          The train of your thoughts is even more strange and the more so not permissible "Ivy"! With your statements, you very much remind me of Zhirinrvsky - by jumping to extremes. This boy did not have to wait 30 years, he needed to get a prize in Europe and we would have a 2nd a ticket to the Olympic Games, but his result is 5th place. 5th place in Europe is 8-10th in the world. The team result, at best, is “bronze” and the shitty mood of the whole team of skaters, and there certainly would be no silver in the figured doubles. The decision on the participation of Plushenko was made by the coaching council of the federation and I very much doubt that Plushenko influenced this decision. I suppose I'm afraid that because of such situations our best will leave to play for other countries (and they will do it right). So let them leave for these countries with their parents at the age of 5-6. By the age and for their money they train and become at least prize-winners
          1. -1
            14 February 2014 14: 01
            I will be permitted to treat those who respect their Country and People.
            Olympics are not school competitions. Here, if there is minimal doubt in your abilities and in your health, you must refuse. And do not bend your line with thoughts: -and there how it goes.
            Do you say that Koftun has an 8-10 place? .... So, Plshchenko and I have no place at this Olympics.
            So, dear, let me decide for myself who I am allowed to and who not.
            1. +1
              14 February 2014 14: 18
              Reading your post, I understand why we are so disrespectful of our country, if we ourselves do not respect each other. And let’s for the fact that he couldn’t come forward, we will take away all the awards from him at the Russian competitions and, just in case, deprive him of his citizenship, you don’t respect Plushenko.
              1. +2
                14 February 2014 14: 36
                Yes, where does your Plushenko, forget you him.
                You and I had a dialogue about Koftun, where you wrote that you wouldn’t go with such intelligence. That's exactly the comment I answered.
                I want to please you: -such as you do not send in intelligence !!!

                Your Plushenko then throws, then returns, then the injury is not ...
                As a commercial tour, so there is no injury, but as for the country, so all the penny !!!

                Do you want me to respect Plushenko? .... So you begin to respect Koftun in turn.
  29. +7
    14 February 2014 09: 07
    But it seems to me that one can refuse the opportunity to speak at the Olympics, even at home, only in the most extreme circumstances, which, apparently, have come about in the case of Zhenya. Very sorry.
    And yet, in my opinion, Plushenko with his achievements has long proved to everyone that he is a real man, not a glamorous Schwal, man, stubborn, tough, able to set goals and achieve them. Reproach him for lack of character or lack of patriotism can only absolutely biased, blinded critic.
    I am waiting for the first to say that Plushenko had read Shenderovich and refused to raise Putin’s rating wassat
    And on my own behalf: Zhenya, health, good luck and thank you! Do not listen to anyone, you had the right to decide whether to go out on the ice. You have earned this right with your labor and victories. Thanks again! hi
    1. ed65b
      +3
      14 February 2014 10: 32
      Quote: Luga
      Zhenya, health, good luck and thank you! Do not listen to anyone, you had the right to decide whether to go out on the ice. You have earned this right with your labor and victories. Thanks again!

      good good
  30. +7
    14 February 2014 09: 12
  31. +8
    14 February 2014 09: 23
    Here are the poems to the topic ...

    Some kind of scary evil
    (would pull them all hands for it!)
    Did not grease skis for Russian athletes
    Athletes fled, tried, but where there ...
    Cursed skis stuck even cry
    And this is only a small part of the setbacks.
    And then, all those same insidious reptiles
    They continued to build obstacles for athletes:
    Not so sharpened skates for hockey players
    That's not what the bobsledders suggested.
    Not those who gave mops shtob in korleng to play
    Framed Plushenko, fuck your mother!
    Turn on the TV to see about the medals
    And hear - the medals again profiled
    And text offscreen muddy tales
    On the topic of lack of proper lubrication
    Nothing ... They’ll come back and they will grease it as it should
    Votrut Vaseline in the hemisphere of the backside
    They will punish anally and exact in full
    For that country again in the ass!

    Results of the Olympics Date: 27.02.2010/XNUMX/XNUMX
  32. grizli7747
    +5
    14 February 2014 09: 32
    Plushenko, of course, went down in history and I do not dispute that, but the main thing is to leave in time and not hope for a miracle. And once you come out - then fight to the end, and not PR. And the words of Rudkovskaya "... He already did everything he could for this country ..." - I don't know how to evaluate at all. The first step towards the betrayal of the Motherland is the words "THIS COUNTRY". I do not like the country, get out of here from here to hell from geyropa !!!!
    1. +1
      14 February 2014 12: 49
      What do you want from the Sochi school, everything is not written on the face.
  33. +4
    14 February 2014 09: 50
    Ambition, ambition - nothing more, generally strange, realizing that each of the jumps, etc., may be the last ......... think only of yourself at that level. In the presence of a normal replacement.
  34. 0
    14 February 2014 09: 51
    and I’m not am and I won’t give it to others, a pitiful sight is Plushenko
  35. +3
    14 February 2014 09: 58
    Now the negative has gone to Evgeni Plushenko. The truth in this, right - wrong, could, could not, probably only he himself knows the Lord God. I don’t know, in my eyes, Eugene is an Olympic champion, a hard worker, who brought with the team of skaters one more GOLD medal to his RUSSIAN HOMELAND!
    Here it flashed that he was leaving
    waisson SU bought he is already going to Israel

    Blaming unproven ... well, somehow not decent.
    And about the fact that he was "going": firstly, perhaps he was going to undergo medical treatment or have a rest in Israel, and secondly, if "well-wishers" - compatriots EATED, he might leave altogether.
  36. +4
    14 February 2014 10: 01
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Kovtun seriously spoke about the possibility of emigration to another country. Strongly offended to see a guy. Let me remind you that these gold medals were taken by OTHER OURS, who were NOT PUT into the national team.

    Still would! If this continues to continue, if the bureaucrats, and not the achievements and the athlete’s uniform, decide at the moment who will be in the national team and who will not — all of our athletic youth will dump abroad.
  37. Voinnet
    +8
    14 February 2014 10: 01
    As for me, it’s painful a lot of attention to this topic, but I couldn’t speak, the demand is from the one who took him to the Olympics ... I’m more concerned that we have no achievements in skiing and biathlon ... why not a word ? This is really a shame for the northern country!
  38. +8
    14 February 2014 10: 05
    Quote: Berimor 2
    Russian Olympic disgrace
    - Shendera ...

    Is victory a shame? Working with injury is a shame? And how many millions of healthy and ambitious athletes have not reached the gold of the Olympics? Yes, already at this Olympiad how many have flown by healthy applicants? You put them all below "shame"? And Plushenko all did, Chana went around, even Chania went around by the sum of two appearances, brought 19 out of 20. If only each of our sportsmen brought one gold ...


    I’m afraid you just don’t understand what it means to defeat at least once one strong opponent ...
    1. +1
      15 February 2014 09: 00
      Yes, here we have young eagles sitting all the time. They don’t know how to fly yet, but to crap ...
  39. +4
    14 February 2014 10: 07
    Yes, Plushenko failed. Overvalued myself. But I do not consider him guilty.

    But where were the coaches, starting from Mishin and ending with the coaches of the figure skating team? Where were the doctors?
    Why do none of them sprinkle ashes on their heads? Why not repent not only in this, but also in the fact that they did not give the young an opportunity to at least gain experience?

    I am a production worker and more than once, at the failure of my team, I considered myself guilty and wrote orders to myself. And these negative ..., fu, what a dirty nasty thing!
  40. +4
    14 February 2014 10: 10
    I never evaluate by results. Much more said interviews and the condition of the athlete. Plushenko would not have questions if he left and said that he was guilty. He started talking about malaise, about the tour. Yes, yes, about some kind of tour around the country. By the way, on the same day, Kovalchik won gold with a broken leg.
  41. +2
    14 February 2014 10: 16
    About where the youth are at the competition and what the old man is doing at the Olympics.
    Our old luge ranks 2nd. And look at Bjerndalen, gold again. How old is he? I wonder if he didn’t get the gold, would it be watered at home too?
    By the way, about the champion of Russia Kovtun, he wrote above at the World Cup and the European Championship crap, why are you so broke as if he took a high place here? The only where the jamb is, so why Plushenko was not replaced immediately after the command. But if someone watched the speeches, but not buttherit after posts on the Internet, then he knows that Plushenko felt normal after the team, there was a little discomfort during the performance on the team and that’s all. but already when he went to the individual room and rolled out there, he cracked several times and that's all ... That’s why I didn’t replace him, because he broke off with the back of the individual, and not after the team ...
    True, you just need to pour bile ...
    1. -1
      15 February 2014 09: 17
      "Poooooor juuuuungam! Poooooor juuuunglyam!" (c) (jackal Tabaki)
      "Give Mowgli to Sher-Khan" (c) (aka)
      And Plushenko - to Ossetia.
  42. +5
    14 February 2014 10: 23
    I am amazed how many people consider themselves specialists in sports, sports tactics and strategies, who are ready to easily justify anyone who has not justified HIS trust. Shame on you gentlemen.
    1. Injury Plushenko, and what, a lot of athletes at the Olympics without injuries. Almost all athletes have injuries of varying severity. Everyone is at risk, for that he is a high sport. Skier from Poland won gold with a broken leg!
    2. If Plushenko had not performed at team competitions, gold, and indeed there would be no medals there, this is 100%. Everyone can find their own balance of power in those competitions.
    3. To send Kovtun to the Olympics instead of Plushenko is a deliberate failure. Participation Ivy is certainly a risk, but a reasonable risk, since there is not much choice. He was told "must", he will answer "is". I think his personal ambitions were far from the first place, although ambitions are positive qualities for an athlete than negative ones. All athletes have ambitions, without this there are no victories.
    4. In general, some "smart guys" write nonsense about some kind of money, kickbacks, etc.
    PS. Yes, I, like many, counted on a medal that HE WILL bring to us, but it did not work out, no luck. This happens all the time in competitions. And blaming a person for being sick is the most scanty thing, think critics.
  43. +9
    14 February 2014 10: 24
    I love our fans. The team won - "Hurray, come on!", "Cool" well, etc. And if you stumble, such a tub of slops is poured out that very few people could get out afterwards. Yes, it happens that the athlete stumbled, did not achieve the result expected by many. But why throw mud at? Have you done anything for him yourself? for this victory? Well, except for smearing the beer folds on your belly.
    Evgeni Plushenko has already proved it to everyone. Since the 95th year on ice, since the 2000th just do not fall below the second. And you still dare say something about him? Yes, refused at the last minute, but do you know what back pain is? Yes, it can be overcome, but there are limits for everything. Do you think he has no replacement? I think the coaches were warned and this probability was foreseen (and if you did not foresee it, this does not set off the coach, not the athlete)
    Zhenya, you are the best and you have already proved it. Lie yourself and tell your squaw to lay on these islands.

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    2. +1
      14 February 2014 10: 58
      ShadowCat: Evgeni Plushenko has already proved everything to everyone.

      That's when he proved it was necessary to leave and give way to the young. And according to your words, if an athlete became a champion, is he allowed to disgrace the country and perform before 80?
      Evgeni Plushenko “failed” his program at the European Championship - the athlete unexpectedly fell. Because of this unfortunate fall, he took only sixth place, shamefully not getting into the top five. The proud skater generally withdrew from the Championship, citing his old injury.

      Yagudin smart and Ivy is Ivy !!!

      You talking about injury do not make people laugh. All this is a performance. After a team victory, he has no reason to play singles, as I understand perfectly well that he has no chance there. He received gold thanks to others and now the shame on the fig.
      And the fact that when he was ... so the fact of the matter is that he was !!!!!
      1. +4
        14 February 2014 12: 47
        Quote: Ossetian.
        Yagudin smart and Ivy is Ivy !!!

        Post-Olympic season 2002 — 2003 also starts with victories. Alexei Yagudin wins a series of semi-professional tournaments, becomes a two-time world champion among professionals. However, pain in the thigh, with which it was previously possible to somehow cope and ride, makes itself felt with renewed vigor. And Aleksey for the first time in his life withdraws from the competition: after executing the short program “Racing” on Skate America in October of the 2002 year, he takes first place, but a few minutes before the rental of an arbitrary program he is forced to abandon the further struggle. Spectators escort the skater with a standing ovation.

        “Everything happened yesterday in training,” Plushenko began his confession. “I fell while playing an axel. I felt pain, but it seemed to me that this was not serious. I had similar difficulties while training in St. Petersburg. In the morning I woke up, felt that the muscle in my back was constrained. Despite this, I went to training, went out on the ice and ... could not jump. In the end, we left the rink after six minutes. I thought that everything would be fine: now I will take pills, I will come to my senses ...
        I drank a pill, came to the rink, stretched my arms. Until recently, he hoped for a miracle. But when you don’t feel your right leg, you realize that the body is really protesting. The head just doesn't work.
        At the warm-up, I made a triple rittberger and triple lutz. From a hard landing, I felt severe pain on the right in the back, she gave an arrow right in the leg. Riding a little, I once again tried to make a triple axel, but this only worsened the situation. I could no longer ride further. He made a decision to finish. Very upset that this happened. All year I trained, prepared to participate in both team and individual competitions of the Olympics.
      2. 0
        15 February 2014 09: 20
        Ossetian:
        And let me curiosity, since you are so torn here, what is your competence based on?
        How many rentals do you have? What is your sports title in figure skating? How long have you been doing it?
        I think that is enough to judge the way you judge. But still interesting.
        And then all of a sudden, in the guise of a figure skating specialist, an ordinary uryapatriotic is hiding ... Anything can happen in our time ...
  44. -2
    14 February 2014 10: 32
    He played a good performance ..... this creature had to leave the champion, here he was in the guise of team competitions and became one. Ours would have won gold in team competitions without him.
    And so he became the champion (where his merit is minimal) and now he definitely does not need to take risks. More than sure, if he hadn’t won gold in team competitions, he would have ridden anyone in singles.
    In Soviet times, he would have been sent to explore Siberia .... it's a shame that the Country and the Fans suffer from greed, self-interest and personal interests.

    What is the title? .... Found me a king !!!
  45. ed65b
    +1
    14 February 2014 10: 36
    Well, it was not possible to replace it with a ticket one, as you would not understand not two or three, but one.
    1. +2
      14 February 2014 10: 47
      And why did you have to take it at all ???
      Well, tell me why you didn’t take Koftun ???
      1. +3
        14 February 2014 10: 55
        It was possible to replace, on the 10th the last term was. Already after command gold, and after he felt a pain in his back.
      2. ed65b
        +2
        14 February 2014 11: 45
        Quote: Ossetian.
        And why did you have to take it at all ???
        Well, tell me why you didn’t take Koftun ???

        Nedoros Kovtun and his low rates, he is a dark horse without a stable result and therefore did not take.
  46. +3
    14 February 2014 10: 40
    Why 3 pairs took the team of greenhouses: Bazarova and Larionov 6th place!
    And Kovtun had to be taken!
  47. +9
    14 February 2014 10: 55
    The king is gone. Long live the king!

    For me personally, Kings are Lev Yashin, Bobrov Vsevolod Mikhailovich, Vladislav Tretyak, Vyacheslav Fetisov, Irina Rodnina, Elena Vyalbe, Elena Isinbaeva - here they are KINGS and KINGS of our sport.

    Julia Lipnitskaya is our golden girl, thank you very much !!!
  48. negeroi
    +7
    14 February 2014 11: 00
    What happened, as a possible and most likely scenario, was voiced from the very beginning, when Plushenko announced his desire to exhibit at the Olympics. Did it come true 100% not true? Such a scenario was conceived and implemented both by Plushenko himself and by officials from sports. Why? Everything has a reason. Officials have their reasons, Plushenko knows the reason - a bitch with clapping eyes depicting an angel. Plushenko is certainly a respected athlete, worthy of all praise ... but not in this situation, which was predictable and obvious through and through. To extend the Plushenko project. , which was supposed to end a few years ago, at someone else's expense .... Ugly. Do not you say athletes? Yes, really? And the figure skating sections that have been packed to the eyeballs have already become scarce for 20 years? And it seems to me that officials from impunity and omnipotence have long been not in Russia. That is why they expel, from the national teams, or do not accept people who win medals of the highest dignity under false flags. And at this Olympics there are a lot of them. Oh well, one, It happens like a gritsa. But no, the tendency is, however, So we push the gold medalists away, what to expose the cripple? And I will ask the author of the article, Agree, Rudkovskaya is a force, a powerful tiotka?
    1. 0
      15 February 2014 09: 45
      Quote: negeroi
      And I ask the author of the article. Agree, Rudkovskaya is a force, a powerful tyotka?


      I agree.
      You have to be a complete idiot to disagree.
      Rudkovskaya is at least 40% of the current situation. Minimum. And it is quite clear what her "merit" is and what she wanted from this situation. But, in fairness, I will note that it would hardly have been enough to carry out this "operation". Unambiguously, gentlemen from the FC federation also put their hands on. List? Izvolte: Chairman VN Piseev, members of the Coaching Council (the main body of the federation): Gromova Zh.F., Kudryavtsev VN, Mishin AN, Moskvina TN, Tarasova TA
      Have a list of questions? I personally do not. See for yourself who these people are and what their merits are. And, especially, WHEN there were these merits. And a lot will fall into place.
      http://www.fskate.ru/info/coachcouncils/.

      Look at the list. Were these people aware that such a situation could occur? I think yes. Sure for all 100%. But, the desire to get more medals prevailed over the mind. And so Kovtun stayed at home, and Plushenko went to speak.

      I don’t know about you, but I’m sure that such a gopa could have been used to push anyone. So Rudkovskaya - yes, definitely, but this gang should not be discounted.
      I don’t know how things are in figure skating, I was engaged in biathlon, and if it was the same as in biathlon (and I think that it was trickier, then biathlon was not so popular) then I have no questions on this topic. "We must, Vasya" - and. You go to the start and perform. And what then - it actually does not bother anyone BEFORE the start. The main thing is the result, we'll figure out the rest later.

      Given the well-deserved Soviet past of this entire company, I am not at all surprised at the current situation.
      1. negeroi
        0
        15 February 2014 20: 39
        They require a lot of signs.

        I think that you will understand me. I respect. You understand ....
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  49. +2
    14 February 2014 11: 19
    I did not understand why it is impossible to include both athletes in the national team.
    1. +1
      14 February 2014 15: 08
      People, why are you just minus the questions? If so smart, give an answer.
      Following the results of international competitions, the Russian quota in this form is 1 athlete.
  50. +8
    14 February 2014 11: 29
    Disappointed ..... until the end of their lives, people will remember not his victories, but this not entirely understandable act, and to be honest, I do not believe him with this back pain, a lot of posturing. Rudkov's "frog" proshma, made an athlete Plushenko, the second Bilan (((((if only they showed more on TV.
    1. SIBUR-DV
      +5
      14 February 2014 15: 17
      It’s like with Klitschko, they used to talk about him as a great athlete who almost beat Lenoks, and now as Klitschko, who was put out with a fire extinguisher. wassat
  51. Oleg1968
    +4
    14 February 2014 11: 34
    I don’t know where the TRUTH is about Plushenko, but if after this there’s a “farewell tour” right away, then I definitely won’t go and spit out of frustration at OUR “Honduras”.
  52. -1
    14 February 2014 11: 37
    Trauma is not a reason...
    1. +1
      14 February 2014 12: 03
      We already understand which emperor you serve.
  53. +3
    14 February 2014 11: 42
    Copyast:
    Vardano
    Why is the USA better than Russia in sports? Back in the 90s, in his reports, Nikolai Popov said that in America, even if you are a ten-time world champion, you will not go to the Olympics and other large stands if you lose to a college student at the qualifying games.

    And we have concepts, and we have traditions, and we have kings!
  54. +2
    14 February 2014 11: 44
    Question from an old joke. So why get married if your hands are sick?
  55. +2
    14 February 2014 12: 23
    Yes, he was a great athlete before what he did now, in my opinion, he was simply afraid that he would not be able to show a decent result, take even the same Japanese - he is an excellent athlete and he would undoubtedly beat Plushenko. And his back had nothing to do with it; it was clear that he was faking it. And what was all this for? For the sake of satisfying the pride that was hurt at the last Olympics by “strangers”? And now “HE” is “his own”, for the sake of his own ambitions, he has taken and blocked the way for the Russian young guy to the Olympics. What should I call it? YOU friends, could you imagine Tretyak or Rodnina in such a role? Yes, they would rather die of pain on the ice than withdraw from the competition if they knew that there was no one to replace them. There are no more normal words, and that’s why I’m silent. negative
    1. 0
      15 February 2014 09: 54
      Quote: cherkas.oe
      And his back had nothing to do with it; it was clear that he was faking it.


      What kind of honey did you finish to judge like that? Or did you have the same back injury?

      Quote: cherkas.oe
      blocked the way for a young Russian guy to the Olympics. What should I call it?


      Why is this Russian guy Kovtun with a capital R? Plushenko is Russian, and Kovtun is Russian? What is the difference? Both were apparently born in Russia, both have citizenship of this country...
      Something reeked of nationalism...

      Quote: cherkas.oe
      It would be better to die of pain on the ice than to withdraw from the competition if they knew that there was no one to replace them.


      Oh yes, of course, Plushenko, who had come to his senses and never got up again, would certainly have satisfied you. Even if there was blood gushing out from somewhere, yes. Then you and others like you would say something like “yes, I’m dead, but I didn’t give up.” But bullshit, it didn’t work out.
      It's a shame, right?

      Excuse me, what kind of thing can you boast about? Scolding - at least with reason.
  56. +2
    14 February 2014 12: 34
    Sorry, I forgot to say: - “minus article, what the fuck is the king, - he’s a huckster and henpecked, dancing to the tune of his old prostitute, who faked the cross on camera.
  57. Bezz
    +4
    14 February 2014 12: 42
    I am sure that even before the Olympics it was clear that for Evgeniy Sochi was the last Olympic competition.
    And that the national team needs new leaders who need to be tested and strengthened in real difficult battles. In this regard, Kovtun’s participation at the Sochi Olympics would have given him personally invaluable experience, and it would have clearly shown other young athletes that in sports the strongest truly wins. And if you win the selection for the Olympics, then it’s you who will go there.
    And for some reason it seems to me that those who made the decision to send not Kovtun, but Plushenko to Sochi, well understood that the chances not only of victory, but simply of a successful performance, were extremely small.
    But they hoped either for a miracle, or for the great Russian Avos. But neither one nor the other happened.

    From a human perspective, I am very glad that Evgeniy heard, as he himself said, the voice of the Lord: “That’s it, Zhenya, that’s enough.”
    But Brezhnev-Andropov-Chernenko did not hear this voice...

    PS I in no way want to question the sporting merits of Evgeni Plushenko.
    He is a great athlete! But even the great ones must be able to leave. Especially if they lost in fair elections. Sorry, selections.
  58. +11
    14 February 2014 12: 44
    soldier That's it !!!
  59. +5
    14 February 2014 12: 54
    Nadys Mishin lied and spun around like a crucian carp in a frying pan, giving cheap excuses about the impossibility of replacing Plushenko after team skating!
  60. +5
    14 February 2014 13: 07
    For those who continue to defend Pyushchenko, I quote the words of Yagudin, a man who knows about figure skating firsthand.

    «I support those people who go to the end. We were expecting a fierce fight between Zhenya Plushenko and the other strong skaters, we didn’t get it, and then let them tell themselves what hurt them and what didn’t hurt them. Zhenya, I think, will understand my words: we have always performed through pain,” R-Sport quotes Yagudin as saying.

    Do you have any other questions, citizen defenders?
    1. ed65b
      0
      14 February 2014 14: 36
      Quote: sinukvl
      Do you have any other questions, citizen defenders?

      Yaguzhin is still a bugger, he and Plushenko have a personal conflict and now he will pour slop on him and spit feces, don’t go to his grandmother. I would have kept silent.
  61. +6
    14 February 2014 13: 18
    What are you speaking about ? This is the OLYMPICS!!!, not a school competition. Yes, Plushenko is a great athlete, but he is not a patriot of his Motherland! At the Olympics, Russian judokas won medals with broken arms, French skiers reached the finish line with broken ribs BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE PERSONAL PRESTIGE OF THE ATHLETE, BUT THE HONOR AND PRIDE OF HIS COUNTRY!!! If you are the ONE representing your country in a sport where every single fellow citizen hopes and counts on you, where the whole world is looking at you, how can you not go out on the ice?!
    There can be no justification for this action. If you are disabled, make way for others and do not deprive the country of hope for Olympic awards!
  62. 0
    14 February 2014 13: 23
    Now wait for the new episode of “Let Them Talk”, where they will “whiten” the would-be champion... As soon as they come up with a more reliable version...
  63. +3
    14 February 2014 13: 32
    And here are the words of the Great Rodnina

    Irina Rodnina, three-time Olympic champion in figure skating (on Twitter): “Yessss.... The men's singles skating tournament without Plushenko immediately lost interest for our fans :(((((

    But it was clear to me even before the Olympic Games :)))))

    At the Olympic Games they don’t think about health, they lose it for the country and the result: ((((



    You need to harden yourself in training:))) at competitions, especially at such a level as the Olympic Games, you need to “give it your best” and not stand behind the “price”:((

    And in pursuit

    Photographer Alexey Pantsikov (on Facebook):

    "The question is why about that Plushenko will come out and immediately act, I heard from volunteers 3 days ago!!! And everything so as not to let Kovtun out... fair play.”

    And in response to the comment he added: “Otherwise... I heard a real leak of information 3 times from different people...”
  64. +6
    14 February 2014 13: 33
    Quote: sinukvl
    quotes Yagudin R-Sport.

    Alexey Yagudin: I won’t comment on Plushenko, otherwise I’ll be pulverized
    Olympic champion Alexey Yagudin talks about the main sensation in the single figure skating tournament at the Olympics, where Evgeni Plushenko withdrew from the competition due to injury.

    — Is this situation unexpected for you?

    - No, I can’t say it’s unexpected. I will say this – we wish the team and all its athletes good health. Because health, in addition to medals, is number one... And I wish Zhenya health. As for what is happening at the Olympics, I am incredibly glad that the skaters are bringing medals to the country, that the team tournament is further raising the spectacle of the sport.

    — How would you rate the intrigue in the individual figure skating tournament and the team’s overall performance at the Olympics?

    - Of course, we were all expecting a fierce fight between Zhenya Plushenko and other athletes. But the injury did not allow him to enjoy his skating. But, of course, a team and an individual tournament are different things: it’s one thing when in a team tournament you compete against second or third places in the team, it’s another thing in an individual tournament, when absolutely everyone enters. but it’s a little disappointing that the title of Olympic champion is a little downgraded - sometimes you compete against not very strong ones... And if before a not very strong American could claim a maximum place in the top ten, now he has bronze. On the other hand, nothing is perfect, and the team should be congratulated on the gold. And of course, the greenhouses were pleased by winning gold and silver.

    - And what about Plushenko separately?

    - You can wish Zhenya health. But after the Russian Championship, he himself said that he would only compete in the team tournament. These are his words. But there are simply such regulations that it was impossible to do that. But the question is not for me. My struggle with him ended 12 years ago, and I have no desire to follow his work. I have my own family and my own profession.

    - How realistic was it, knowing Plushenko’s problems, to remove him and enter Maxim Kovtun’s personal tournament, who could gain some experience?

    - I probably won’t comment on the situation for reasons of correctness. But read Zhenya’s comment for yourself after the Russian Championship. Everything is very clear there. I won’t comment further, otherwise I’ll be pulverized later.

    - I understand the idea correctly - initially they wanted to participate in the team tournament, and then withdraw due to injury. But something happened - an emotional outburst, or a sense of well-being.

    -- No comments. You can figure everything out yourself.

    — How would you evaluate Plushenko’s career in general? What did competing with him mean to you?

    - This is an outstanding personality. He has two Olympic gold medals and two Olympic silver medals. He delighted fans for many, many years. Of course, he made a huge contribution to the development of figure skating. I wish him good health.

    - Coach Evgeniy, Alexey Mishin, said that now Plushenko can only participate in the Paralympics. How justified are such sacrifices?

    — Question to Alexey Nikolaevich. In my opinion, sport is worth such sacrifices.
    Source: http://www.sovsport.ru/sochi/texts/text-item/684827
    1. +3
      14 February 2014 14: 57
      Very interesting article. Thank you! Explains a lot and gives food for thought. But the conclusions are not at all happy!
    2. +1
      14 February 2014 23: 35
      I will add that Yagudin, despite the command of Mishin-Plyushchenko, took his Olympic gold - although at that time Plushenko was “dragged” to gold by all possible means.
      Well, Mishin’s words:
      “As for the possible replacement with Maxim Kovtun, it could only be made in the morning after the team tournament. But then there could be no talk of any withdrawal. So we acted within the framework of the regulations and fair play,” said Alexey Mishin.” http://www.interfax-russia.ru/South/view.asp?id=473373
      Naturally, there was time for a replacement, but... - Mishin’s fair play worked sad
  65. 0
    14 February 2014 13: 39
    Quote: HollyGremlin
    I never evaluate by results. Much more said interviews and the condition of the athlete. Plushenko would not have questions if he left and said that he was guilty. He started talking about malaise, about the tour. Yes, yes, about some kind of tour around the country. By the way, on the same day, Kovalchik won gold with a broken leg.


    Actually it's a rib.
    1. +2
      14 February 2014 14: 53
      I don't know what's worse, the rib or the leg. I broke a rib, not to mention it’s hard to sneeze!
  66. +6
    14 February 2014 13: 44
    The start of the two-month (!) tour of Russia by two-time Olympic champion Evgeni Plushenko is scheduled for March XNUMX, recalls “Soviet Sport”.

    Let us remind you that before the start of the short program in the singles competition at the Olympics in Sochi, Russian figure skater Evgeni Plushenko withdrew from the tournament due to back pain. Thus, for the first time since 1984, Russia was left without any medals in this discipline.

    But for a commercial tour for Plushenko’s money, back pain is not a hindrance. It turns out that for two months in a row, with breaks of only 2-3 days, he can drive, ride, and jump around cities and villages throughout Russia - for money. After all, a commercial tour is about riding and jumping for money for yourself, and not for the prestige of the country. A commercial tour is sacred.

    And still, some continue to claim that “Zhenya is great,” “Zhenya is the best.”

    Although there is also the following opinion on this matter:

    “What do you mean - it happened like this?! This is a classic version of the old joke about a decrepit horse! Which, before the race, tells the owner - let me out and bet all the money on me - I’ll definitely win!

    The owner is confused - you’re decrepit, everything is in your past, and I have a young stallion here...

    Lame-legged nag - Bet on me, I’ll definitely win, I feel it, I know myself!!

    The owner bet all his money on it.

    The frolicking mare was the last to trudge in. And at the owner’s astonished, astonished look, she only muttered guiltily: “Well, I couldn’t do it!” I couldn't...

    This is today - all Plushenko. Despite all the past.

    Which one is the best?! The best are on the pedestal.

    And not only did Plushenko himself behave like that screaming mare (it was obvious that he “wouldn’t do it”), but he ruined the career of a young promising talent. We can only hope that the guy (countryman Yulia Lipnitskaya, Kovtun) has enough character to overcome this obvious injustice and meanness.”
    1. +1
      14 February 2014 14: 02
      Wow, so many polarizing comments! I won't comment on anything. I just can’t understand why they didn’t send Kovtun and Plushenko together. This is not prohibited. There would be 2 skaters in this discipline. We would have a chance now. Well, spinal pain in a person. It happened, I did everything I could. But there would be a second one...
      1. +3
        14 February 2014 14: 46
        Who downvoted me for asking?
        The question is resolved, thanks to samoletil18, enlightened me.
        We had a quota of one place in this discipline.
  67. +7
    14 February 2014 13: 53
    A king is not a king, with Rudkovskaya, without Rudkovskaya, what’s the difference. A person with such a state of health has nothing to do on the ice, especially on the Olympic ice. And his personal desire, in this case, cannot play any role. There's no need to bully him, he doesn't deserve it. But the “f..flying squadron” from the sport that let him through there (pushed him in, it’s whoever likes it more) should be driven onto the ice in full force, and head, ass, head and again ass on this very ice. Yes, Plushenko got off, God be his judge, but imagine for a moment that he broke down during his performance and moved from skates to a wheelchair. If only well-wishers would mock, the Russians have no one else left besides the disabled, etc. and so on. That would be crazy.
  68. +9
    14 February 2014 13: 54
    As Rudkovskaya said: “He did everything for THIS country.” And also: “He told me that he wants to perform for me.” Normal men don’t marry the Rudkovskys. Figure skater Plushenko is a superstar, Plushenko’s man, especially after his act towards Besides, Kovtun is a decent piece of shit.
  69. +5
    14 February 2014 14: 00
    Plushenko was an athlete, but not a great one. Great people don't do that! And there are no such kings. In fact, our girls gave him gold in the team competition. Why didn’t he immediately withdraw from the competition that same day, although it was clear that he had little chance of success in single skating? There would be three days left to replace him and nominate the same Kovtun. After all, the program is ready and he could polish it during these days. At least he gave the young athlete the opportunity to try himself. But I won’t give it to myself or to others. Kovtun may have taken 8th-10th place, but he gained experience! And so "steering wheel". A very offensive word for an athlete.
    If you are disabled and cannot, compete at the alternative Olympics with disabled people! Plushenko's gold would be guaranteed there!
  70. +2
    14 February 2014 14: 38
    It was a shame to read many of the comments, Plushenko did everything he could, and if you think that you could have done more, then why are you not at the Olympics. It’s easy to bang on the keyboard at home while drinking beer, condemning everything and everyone, and not exhausting yourself with training, suffering from injuries and drowning out the pain with painkillers.
  71. 0
    14 February 2014 14: 50
    Plushenko's participation in the Olympics after such operations is an act worthy of a man, without a doubt
  72. +2
    14 February 2014 14: 52
    God be with him, with Plushenko, a former (or current?) deputy of the State Duma, even if he has never visited it (the Duma). And it’s right what to do there. I’m wondering, if at the end of the day Russia is not among the top three winners in terms of the number of medals, will our valiant Minister of Sports Mutko resign? Or will he be asked to do so? Or will he excuse himself again and continue to sit?
    1. +1
      14 February 2014 23: 43
      Quote: ytsuken
      .I’m wondering if, based on the results, Russia is not among the top three winners in terms of the number of medals,


      Three???
      In Vancouver we were 11th.
      If we make it into the top five, it will be a colossal, incredible success.
      1. +1
        14 February 2014 23: 49
        Quote: Normal
        If we make it into the top five, it will be a colossal, incredible success.

        There is a chance to get a couple more gold. This is the end of the top ten.
        It is already customary that Germany, Norway, Canada and the USA are in the lead. But when Switzerland passes on "one left"...
  73. +5
    14 February 2014 17: 01
    When you fought with your father as a child, he pins you to the carpet and asks: are you giving up? And you puff in a choked voice: Russian-Soviet do not give up! It's a shame to give up, guys. Isn't that how we were taught?
    At high level competitions there are high loads. You went to these competitions to represent not yourself, but your country. Like going to war, practically. Then go all the way. Don't feel sorry for yourself. Then there will be victories. The country will respect the heroes of sports, and we will have a patriotic upsurge.
    ..Doesn’t leave you with the feeling that the skater didn’t do it the Russian way.
  74. +1
    14 February 2014 17: 56
    Quote: Berimor 2
    The Olympic disgrace of Russia!


    I wish I could take you and drag you onto the ice. I would look at you wretched.

    But Plushenko still has serious injuries, and he is 31 years old!!! For a figure skater, it’s like turning 90 if you went to work in construction.
    1. +2
      14 February 2014 22: 10
      Quote: Bad
      But Plushenko still has serious injuries, and he is 31 years old!!! For a figure skater, it’s like turning 90 if you went to work in construction.

      Then welcome to the Paralympians and not to the First Team.
  75. +2
    14 February 2014 18: 00
    My opinion would be ambiguous. Plushenko did everything he could, but not everything we needed from him. Doctors d.b. anticipate such developments. I think that Kovtun would not have spoiled the “furrows”. And in general, in each type of program there should be at least 2 representatives from the country. This is true for couples.
  76. +2
    14 February 2014 18: 03
    The mere fact that a man with a severe spinal injury skated (and absolutely brilliantly) for silver, in my humble opinion, is already a feat of feats.
    There is no need to rinse this MAN in a rotten puddle. He had already done everything he could. And there is no need to puff about the impossible, but I would like to. It is necessary to organize schools, “Olympic appeal”, as it was in my youth. I went to these myself for rowing and fencing.
    Plushenko is a real patriot, despite any yellow nuances. And I am personally proud that this man represented our country at the current Olympics.

    I would do the same. Everyone has their limit.

    ZY
    So, I wonder how these same uninvolved commentators would behave if they were in his place? And of course (the point is clear), discussing someone else’s wife is a separate and apparently favorite topic for some.
    Be sick.
  77. +5
    14 February 2014 18: 22
    As of today, 14.02.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX, Russia has only two medals, gold (there are no others at the Olympics), one of which the country received thanks to Ivy, and both from figure skaters.
    When the back is cut by wild pain - as if a string is cutting across the back, or when the back does not bend, and the legs literally cannot hold... Who has experienced this (my chronic osteochondrosis - acquired at work, periodic pain in the knee - echoes of playing competitive sports), he understands that with symptoms like Evgeniy’s, you can’t go on the ice, you can’t perform either an Axel or a Ritterberger. At least fill yourself up with painkillers - if your legs are like those of a paralytic, what the hell are the performances?
    Where are the new young skaters replacing the champions - Kulik, Urmanov, Plushenko?
    Or does anyone consider a place in the top ten, but outside the prizes, skiers and skiers, biathletes and biathletes, a worthy performance?
    1. Alex 241
      +1
      14 February 2014 18: 25
      Ilyich, women's biathlon, Zaitseva is first so far, three times over the left shoulder so as not to jinx it.
      1. +2
        14 February 2014 19: 01
        Quote: Alex 241
        Ilyich, women's biathlon, Zaitseva is first so far, three times over the left shoulder so as not to jinx it.

        jinxed
        already in 15th place.

        And today I told you about ivy Mishin.
        quote:“Because the name Plushenko is both a poster and a cash register”
        have arrived!
        1. Alex 241
          +2
          14 February 2014 19: 03
          Yes, I know. Oh damn.
      2. +2
        14 February 2014 19: 42
        Quote: Alex 241
        Ilyich, women's biathlon, Zaitseva is first so far, three times over the left shoulder so as not to jinx it.

        Our today's women's biathlon is complete KICK!!!
        negative
        1. Alex 241
          +1
          14 February 2014 19: 47
          Now I only support the women’s hockey team. That’s where the fighters are! And it’s just heartbreaking.
          1. +1
            14 February 2014 20: 07
            Quote: Alex 241
            Now I only support the women’s hockey team. That’s where the fighters are! And it’s just heartbreaking.

            I completely agree.
            Well, also for Yulia Lipnitskaya!
            and also for everyone who will fight no matter what!
            And about batlon there is a good quote from “championship.com”:
            Romanova with snot is the true face of women's biathlon in Russia!
          2. +3
            14 February 2014 20: 27
            Quote: Alex 241
            Now I only support the women's hockey team

            It’s a pity that women’s beach volleyball is not played in winter laughing
            But figure skaters are fine too... And if they support with their feet up... fellow
            1. Alex 241
              +3
              14 February 2014 20: 29
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              It’s a pity that women’s beach volleyball is not played in winter
              But figure skaters are fine too... And if they support with their feet up...
              Cough, cough Ilyichchchch laughing
            2. +2
              14 February 2014 23: 17
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              It’s a pity that women’s beach volleyball is not played in winter
              But figure skaters are fine too... And if they support with their feet up...

              laughing what this looks so romantic! feel
    2. +2
      14 February 2014 19: 44
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      Or does anyone consider a place in the top ten, but outside the prizes, skiers and skiers, biathletes and biathletes, a worthy performance?

      It turns out I was VERY optimistic...
      If only... yes if only... crying
  78. 0
    14 February 2014 18: 24
    The men don't have a bench. This is the problem.
  79. yur58
    +2
    14 February 2014 18: 27
    We don’t need such “feats”: a disabled person going to the Olympics. And those who decided on who to send to competitions need to be asked. Well, the “king” is already making a statement that he will participate in the tour. It's all strange. It brings up bad thoughts.
  80. 0
    14 February 2014 19: 33
    And the discussion of the note turned into a regular squabble(((.......
  81. +1
    14 February 2014 19: 37
    Nothing surprising happened in the show “Pluschenko at the Olympics”. Quite a predictable result. Don't think. that the skater and his coach should be heavily blamed. But the Figure Skating Federation to the ANSWER. First of all, she disgraced herself and showed her inadequacy.
    Before the games, Plushenko, after some left-handed viewing of his skating, stated that he would only perform in team competitions. He lied and deceived.
    I competed in team competitions and went home. The Federation says to Kovtun, let the boy cook in the Olympic kitchen. He won't win, but he'll have experience for the rest of his skating life....
    Plushenko is, of course, an outstanding athlete. BUT his last show left a bitter aftertaste. And the FEDERATION for parliamentary hearings, where they will be sent home.
    1. +2
      14 February 2014 20: 35
      But the Figure Skating Federation to the ANSWER. First of all, she disgraced herself and showed her inadequacy.

      Yep, “disgraced myself.” They have all the Olympic gold at the moment. All the sofa scumbags have already written up to such nonsense.
      1. -1
        15 February 2014 10: 04
        A very worthy, polite and without rudeness answer. Apparently, the length of stay on the site gives the right to be rude and claim exclusivity of opinion. Almost like Plushenko.
  82. +2
    14 February 2014 20: 11
    Help from WIKI
    Medals at the Winter Olympics
    Year Gold Silver Bronze Total Rank
    by medals by gold
    1994 11 8 4 23 3 1
    1998 9 6 3 18 3 3
    2002 5 4 4 13 6 5
    2006 8 6 8 22 5 4
    2010 3 5 7 15 6 11
    THERE ARE NO MIRACLES IN THE WORLD, but I really want them. Shouting “We’ll tear everyone apart” does not achieve this. I can’t make the table differently, sorry. In words: there have been no prizes in the team competition for a long time (not in medals, not in gold).
  83. SNG
    0
    14 February 2014 20: 12
    There is no doubt that Plushenko is a great athlete, but I’m closer to 9Rota’s “Die, but do it!”
  84. +5
    14 February 2014 20: 18
    How these so-called two-week-old fans infuriate me!!! They don’t understand a damn thing about sports, they don’t engage in it and don’t want to understand it; they remember the existence of sports only during the winter and summer Olympic Games, the European and World Football Championships, and in the event of some major successes of our athletes at various tournaments. But then they throw mud at athletes, squeal that athletes owe everything, without delving into the essence of how this sport works, what the situation is there, etc. - in no case, why will the Olympic Games end in Sochi and before the World Cup in Brazil they won’t remember about any sport, they will do all sorts of garbage, but they will talk beautifully about “what have they done to the country”, “how to live then” sucks”, but to understand that the country as a whole and the sporting successes of this very country begin with oneself - no, this is really hard!!!
    1. -1
      15 February 2014 00: 02
      Quote: GUSAR
      How these so-called two-week-old fans infuriate me!!! They don’t understand a damn thing about sports, they don’t engage in it and don’t want to understand it; they remember the existence of sports only during the winter and summer Olympic Games, the European and World Football Championships, and in the event of some major successes of our athletes at various tournaments. But then they throw mud at athletes, squeal that athletes owe everything, without delving into the essence of how this sport works, what the situation is there, etc.

      If they piss you off, take some valerian and go to bed.
      What should a fan “understand” about sports? First of all, the athlete’s goal is VICTORY! This is the meaning of his existence. This is everything! There is no point in big-time sports if athletes are not aware of their duty to win. If we hear: “We don’t owe anyone anything,” “We didn’t live up to your hopes? These are your problems,” then this is already beyond the bounds.
      And I don’t give a damn how sports are organized there and what the situation is there - no one is forced into sports. If you don’t want to give yourself completely and completely (and without this there’s no way) for victory, there’s nothing to do in sports. All moans and complaints are for the poor. All references to conditions and circumstances are for the poor.
  85. +5
    14 February 2014 20: 47
    I read all the comments, especially where they say - “if only you could get on the ice” and the like - yes, we are each in our own place. For example, I will never take on a job if I am not sure that I will do it. And so I think, everyone in their place. And to say that I wouldn’t be able to go on the ice, I can say that Plushenko wouldn’t be able to do my job for me. Therefore, to each his own, but you have to remain a man in any situation. And he did not act like a man. It's my opinion.
  86. +3
    14 February 2014 21: 13
    A hare is walking through the forest and an ant meets him, such a cheerful one, giggling at something. The hare asks him: “Why are you having fun, where is the drink?” The ant answers: “Yes, there in the clearing a crowd was kicking an elephant, I also kicked it twice.”. I have a question, not for everyone, but for many, what’s wrong with you?
    1. +2
      14 February 2014 21: 38
      Well, there is so much rottenness among our people?! There's no escape. They don’t even notice that Plushenko’s great contribution to the team gold, the main thing for them is to criticize and teach everyone from the couch. Both athletes and officials.
      Something like this.

  87. Power
    +5
    14 February 2014 21: 22
    Thank you Zhenya! Good luck, be patient, they don’t take offense at fools.
  88. +7
    14 February 2014 21: 41
    Quote: Fantik
    Well, plus the general collapse of sports in the country...


    Well, there is no need to say anything more. What, did someone think that since the Olympics are held here we will take away all the medals???!!! Nooo, ROBOYATS. As “democracy” hit the country in the strong 90s, it reached all corners. And there - and SPORTS huddled somewhere. Yes, and I was not in a weak spot. The most powerful state propaganda, support, a bunch of free sections, courts in every yard in winter, free equipment in schools, “toughen up if you want to be healthy”... And much more that you can’t list. Hence the mass character and the possibility of choice. All this is in the past. The guys who are now fighting for medals are from that generation that has already been deprived of everything that I said above. This generation grew up on advertisements like “drink Klinskoye, then you’re cool,” “but the men don’t even know!” , on the “white sachet” (they wouldn’t be remembered for this role by night, for this role it’s still filthy on the armless ones for me with a small letter, and the matador would have cut off a thread for showing “on the first”). And then sports were shoved into...the public domain. The WORLD Hockey Championship was not shown for the first time, but “white sasha” YES!!! Sports have disappeared from the central channels, and moronic shows, serials, and “reality” low-grade lope are eaten up. Because everything has become charged with quick money, PROFIT. And SPORT is a long-term project. Instead of enthusiasts From sports came home-grown and not very “(de)EFFICIENT managers.” Those who could be quickly “taken off” were invested in, some were taken away, some left on their own. The Soviet sports system collapsed. The guys of the new generation chose according to their capabilities - those who did not have enough to pay for classes in the section followed the “Klinsky”, others, at the behest of their “soul”, followed the laurels of the “white”. I'm exaggerating, of course. But that's how it is. And thanks to all those guys for whom we are currently rooting for at the Olympic Games. Because they didn’t follow Klinsky, and we have the opportunity to worry about them, be upset, and be happy.
    I will do everything - swear at them, scold them, scream with delight, hate them for losing, but I will forgive EVERYTHING!!! Because they are Ours, MINE!!! There are no others yet, they haven’t grown. I want to believe that the situation will change someday, sport will really become mass again, and this can only be achieved with ABSOLUTE ACCESSIBILITY for all categories of the population. Then there will be more medals, victories, pride for them and for the country.
    In the meantime, thank you to Plushenko for the medals that he contributed to the general treasury of victories, OUR VICTORIES. There is no need to kick anyone, neither in advance, nor especially in a sore back, and argue, “if only and if only.” P.S. Sorry that there are a lot of “letters”.
    1. +1
      14 February 2014 21: 52
      Quote: skifd
      I will do everything - swear at them, scold them, scream with delight, hate them for losing, but I will forgive EVERYTHING!!! Because they are Ours, MINE!!!

      That's right, everything else is crap.
    2. +1
      14 February 2014 22: 35
      P.S. Sorry that there are a lot of “letters”.

      Such a good speech. An ordinary Russian man. And not a stonic who can only demand from everyone around him, but you can’t demand anything from yourself. drinks
    3. +1
      14 February 2014 23: 32
      I kiss your thoughts !!!
    4. 0
      14 February 2014 23: 32
      I kiss your thoughts !!!
  89. waisson
    -2
    14 February 2014 22: 20
    He had two options to remain a star - a hero - a legend. It was not to participate in the Olympics or to jump off in time to give a place to a spare number.
    AND SO HE LEFT A LARGE PILE OF SHIT ON HIS SOUL AND HIS PAST MERIT IS NOT SEEN BEHIND THIS PILE OF SHIT.
    1. 0
      15 February 2014 10: 01
      Whoever needs it will see it.
      Smart people will understand, don't pity fools.
  90. +3
    14 February 2014 22: 34
    At the end of December at the Russian Championship he took second place, losing to Maxim Kovtun.

    “On Tuesday, January 21, Plushenko performed a test skate at the Olympic base in Novogorsk in front of the specialists and management of the FFKKR, as a result of which it was decided to grant him a ticket in men’s single skating to the Games in Sochi.”
    What kind of specialists cancel selection based on sporting principles by a strong-willed decision? And then we are surprised and indignant at how our compatriots bring medals to Slovakia and Belarus. Personally, my opinion is another business project by Rudkovskaya and Plushenko. Initially, the bet was made on a medal in the team, and then the hero of Russia goes on an endless tour across the expanses of Russia to chop cabbage, which was spent a lot for a place in the team.
    1. 0
      15 February 2014 10: 02
      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
      specialists and management of the FFKKR


      If anything, Rudkovskaya and Plushenko are not listed in the FFKKR. Look at the list of participants and much will become clear.
  91. fimusito
    +5
    14 February 2014 22: 34
    Yeah...
    Apparently a serious injury.
    The first show after a broken back in Izhevsk 03.03.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX. Today the management called Moscow - no cancellation. Plushenko will come.
    Tickets from 800-3200 rub.
    1. +3
      14 February 2014 23: 22
      Quote: fimusito
      Yeah...
      Apparently a serious injury.
      The first show after a broken back in Izhevsk 03.03.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX. Today the management called Moscow - no cancellation. Plushenko will come.
      Tickets from 800-3200 rub.

      what If he appears on this show, then a back injury is just an excuse... Although if we judge objectively, with three staples on the spine, the person is already considered disabled.

      Just a couple of days ago He was almost declared Caesar for his contribution to the team performance. And today he was doused with feces. There is half a step between glory and the abyss. And sport is the business of professionals. I’m not sure, don’t overtake. These are the laws.
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  93. waisson
    0
    14 February 2014 23: 28
    Putin reacted with understanding to Plushenko’s decision to withdraw from the Olympics - what kind of president are such patriots?
    1. +4
      14 February 2014 23: 40
      Quote: waisson
      what kind of president are they and patriots

      Why are you hiding behind someone else's flag? So, after putting shit in your mouth, it’s easier to spit?
      1. +2
        15 February 2014 10: 09
        Quote: waisson
        what kind of president are they and patriots


        Well, what do you mean by that? It’s clear that you don’t like our President. Well, there are more and more countries in the world. Choose. I can even point to one, where they adore such megapotreots. And they give you a free fan and a poop shovel.
  94. jjj
    +2
    14 February 2014 23: 49
    I don’t know what Olympics some “polymer people” are watching here. Meanwhile, at the end of the day on February 14, we had 12 medals: 2 gold, 5 silver, 5 bronze. This is a very good achievement for our sport.
    1. +1
      15 February 2014 10: 10
      Alas...if this is a good achievement, then alas.
      1. 0
        15 February 2014 16: 15
        Quote: Banshee
        Alas...if this is a good achievement, then alas.


        I'll forgive everything for winning the hockey team drinks
        1. 0
          15 February 2014 17: 22
          We are waiting and hoping for hockey!!! fellow
          1. 0
            15 February 2014 19: 27
            Quote: Hiking
            We are waiting and hoping for hockey!!!

            Kind of joking... crying
  95. 0
    15 February 2014 16: 13
    Next to any major competition, the world of bookmakers was always seething invisibly. And now, with mobilization and the Internet, it is even more accessible and popular.. Knowing this, the “incomprehensible” and unexpected losses of our stars become clear..
  96. +1
    15 February 2014 22: 50
    It seems to me that what’s annoying is not that Plushenko withdrew from the competition (I admit that his ambitions went off scale, that’s why he went to the Olympics himself, I admit that in euphoria he overestimated his capabilities), but what’s annoying is the too ugly form of apology from the champion and his wife, who should keep quiet , for good reason, but she added fuel to the fire and sits ratting like a cornered mouse.
    1. +1
      16 February 2014 02: 42
      Quote: Nekarmadlen
      I'm irritated by the too ugly form of the apology of the champion and his wife

      In light of the fact that Plushenko will soon begin a tour of Russian and foreign cities and villages, it becomes clear that he simply needed to save his energy for touring. The Olympics are just for the collection. But touring is money. Although on tour you will also have to jump. Or are traumas no longer injuries?
      In essence, Plushenko is cheap. So to set up and ditch the Russian team at the Olympics, especially the “home” one...
      Somehow it smells rotten from Plushenko and everything connected with him and this story.
  97. +1
    16 February 2014 00: 42
    Quote: Fin
    Quote: carver
    The same trainer clearly explained that replacing one athlete with another is possible only when a new injury is received. So why did he have to get it on purpose?

    Are you from the moon? He has a lifelong injury OPERATION on the spine! There are 99 load limits! Take off the individual in a timely manner and no one would say anything! Mutko said: Replacement was possible only immediately after the team tournament.


    Especially for those on the armored train: Replacement was possible immediately after the team competition (more precisely, before the morning) and only if the athlete received a fresh new injury, and there was none! In the evening he finished the performance, and at 10 am the participant had to be entered as a singles athlete. Thus, he must have inflicted a fresh injury on himself during the night! You're sick and tired of loudmouths and empty talkers.
  98. natalia-teacher
    0
    18 February 2014 04: 40
    Good article.
  99. fedorru
    0
    21 February 2014 15: 51
    Zhirinovsky said that it is necessary to give the way to young people. Well, then let him set an example and retire or something. Otherwise, in his old age, he’s already making some bullshit. Plushenko fought with the best of the best and defeated them. And how many times Zhirinovsky participated in the presidential elections and NEVER won, so who is he after that...