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] Today, many are wondering if it is worth it to remember the 1 date of August 1914. They say when it was, how much water has flowed ... Today there is not a single living witness to those events in the world. So, really, is it worth it?

World War I - the Great War, as it was called before 1 September 1939, in its consequences and influence on the course of the world stories, has no equal. The Russian, German, Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman empires disappeared from the political map. There are new states. It became another society. Changed attitudes, evaluation, culture and art, even fashion. The further evolution of humanity was a direct consequence of the tragedy. The war, like a giant ghoul, drank the forces of the peoples of Europe, devastated them morally and physically. By 1918, the maddened from the blood, their own and others, the soldiers had thoroughly forgotten, and many from the very beginning did not know what they were fighting for.

The patriotic euphoria of the first months after the declaration of war quickly passed. Began heavy military and trench everyday life. Great victories were replaced by defeats. By 1915, the standoff became protracted. For the first time it was about the struggle for survival, which required tension and the consolidation of all the forces of a belligerent state. In this regard, Russia was the most vulnerable. Nowhere has such a deep division in the upper levels of society been observed. An attempt by the ruling class to represent the Second World War failed. The aristocracy, part of the generals, members of the left parties, the liberal intelligentsia and the associated bourgeoisie openly expressed the opinion that Tsar Nicholas II was incapable of leading the country to victory.

The growth of oppositional moods and apathy in society and the army was partly determined by the connivance of the authorities themselves, who failed to restore proper order to the rear, which little resembled a fortress, ready to give all its strength to the front.
"Rasputin" in this series was only the tip of the iceberg.


In the end, it all ended with the February Revolution. It is obvious that the time for the displacement of the king was chosen, to put it mildly, not entirely successful, assuming of course that the main objective of the opposition forces was victory in the war, and not the seizure of power. So, Russia was gradually drawn into the most terrible form of military conflict - a civil war, the consequences of which we still feel.

I think that there is no reason to look for a more righteous sense of the origin of the First World War. Her character was and will forever remain imperialistic. The contradictions of the power elites of the Entente and the central European powers to 1914 heated up so much that the clashes could not be avoided, and the Russian and German empires became its strike forces, hammer and anvil. In essence, without their participation, war would not have acquired a global scale and characteristic bitterness. Many sensible people in Berlin and St. Petersburg were well aware that there would be no winners in the fight that had begun, that all would be swept away by the revolution. However, the inexorable logic of the laid foreign policy, along which the great empires moved regardless of the wishes and sentiments of the ruling dynasties, did not leave a chance to escape from a catastrophe. The war would most likely break out without a shot of Gavrila Princip. The war machine of the “iron” German Empire was already activated and, like a time bomb, counted down the time remaining before the explosion. The Sarajevo assassination attempt was not a cause, but only a formal reason for attacking Serbia, which was destined to become a collateral victim in a dispute between great powers for world domination.

The unjust nature of the war does not make the act of Russia, which stood for Serbia, less significant. Altruism in global politics was unknown before.

The understanding of our attitude towards the fulfillment of the allied debt can be found in the reasons for the unsuccessful East Prussian operation, which was carried out hastily at the request of the allies and ended with the death of General A.V. 2 Army. Samsonov. But the Germans were forced to transfer from the Western Front two army corps and one cavalry division, which ensured the French victory in the battle of the Marne and saved Paris. Having won tactically, Germany lost its strategic initiative and, in the end, paid for it with defeat in the war.

1915 to 1916 The Russian front was the main front of the struggle. He occupied and diverted the main forces of Germany and Austria-Hungary. During the fighting in the South-Western Front in the summer of 1916, even Turkish divisions appeared against the Russians. The Russian Expeditionary Corps fought in France, two separate brigades operated in the Balkan theater. Even after Russia left the war in March 1918 of the year, the German bloc held in Belarus and Ukraine a significant contingent that was very much needed in the West on the critical days of the 1918 summer-autumn campaign of the year.

Of course, the final of the Brest-Litovsk peace was a shame for Russia. By the way, Soviet historiography also did not try to present a truce with the Germans as a triumph for the young workers 'and peasants' diplomacy. As William Churchill said: “Destiny was not as cruel to any country as it was to Russia. Her ship went to the bottom when the harbor was in sight. She has already undergone a storm when everything collapsed. All sacrifices have already been made, all the work has been completed. ” You can’t say better, and Churchill is hard to be suspected of being too sympathetic to our country. And the sacrifices were and were considerable and they were brought to the altar of a common victory over the enemy, strong and insidious. In 1918, the Allies paid us back for this intervention.

The best died. More than two million of our compatriots died. Historians still argue about the exact figures of our losses. The graves of Russian soldiers remained in France, Poland, Romania, Serbia, Macedonia, Greece, and the Caucasus. It was the Russian army that saved the Armenian people from the genocide unleashed against them by the Turkish military. Made the first in the history of taran P.N. Nesterov - an outstanding Russian pilot-knight. The commander of the submarine "Shark" N.A. Humming - the inventor of the device, allowing the submarine to move in a submerged position with working diesel engines (now this device is known as RDP or "snorkel"). The Brusilov breakthrough, the only operation of the First World War that moved military scientific thought, went down in history. The principles laid down by A.A. During the development of the plan of operation, during the Great Patriotic War, Brusilov brilliantly realized and developed Marshal G.K. Zhukov.

And finally, the most important thing. 100 years ago, a Russian soldier came together in a battle with those who led Hitler to power in Germany a few decades later, who became the conduit for the misanthropic ideas of national socialism, who used the scorched earth tactics in 1914-1918. and came to our land again in 1941, kill, rape and rob.

The point in this story put in 1946 year, the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg, which gave a legal assessment of the rules of war, which the German military elite began to run in on the margins of the First World War.
Probably for the sake of such a memory, and not for political reasons, for the sake of non-repetition of mistakes, for which we paid a very terrible price, we should recall the August 1 day 1914 of the year, when Kaiser Germany declared war on Russia.
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  1. Arhj
    Arhj 13 February 2014 15: 43
    +18
    Today, many are wondering whether it is worth remembering the date of August 1, 1914.

    History cannot be forgotten, whatever it may be. Most major political and economic miscalculations would not have happened if their authors had known and taken into account historical experience. The intention, of course, does not count.
    World War I - a war in which victory was stolen from us
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 13 February 2014 15: 54
      +19
      Quote: Arhj
      History cannot be forgotten, whatever it may be.

      Of course you can’t, because surely many ancestors fought in that war, just many do not know.
      Frolov Petr Valerievich
      The point in this story was put in the 1946 year by the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg,

      The point has not yet been set, it really bothers someone in Geyrop. Look at Estonia, Latvia and the west of Ukraine. The point will be when such a tribunal is held in Russia and where "progressive Western democracies will be tried."
      1. vo.dum
        vo.dum 13 February 2014 20: 20
        +2
        Now they are also preparing a war, and after the collapse of the USSR, if it happens, it will definitely be imperialistic ... our thieves are no better than their thief, and forelocks will crack as usual ... as long as they sip shampusik ...
    2. self-propelled
      self-propelled 13 February 2014 16: 34
      +8
      Quote: Arhj
      History cannot be forgotten, whatever it may be.

      already wrote, but still repeat - A PEOPLE WHO DO NOT REMEMBER THEIR PAST - DOES NOT HAVE A FUTURE!
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 13 February 2014 17: 17
      +12
      Victory did not shine on anyone at all. Not for that the war was unleashed. Only the United States profited from the war. And before the Second World War there was only a respite for the final division of the world.
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 14 February 2014 07: 45
        +3
        Moreover, it is obvious that the time for the removal of the king was chosen, to put it mildly, not entirely successful, provided, of course, that the main goal of the opposition forces was victory in the war, and not seizure of power. So, Russia gradually became drawn into the most terrible form of military conflict - the civil war, the consequences of which we still feel.

        The twentieth century has become for Russia a century of trials and suffering. Developing and powerful in 1914, by 1920 our country lay in ruins. The completely destroyed economy, the deaths of millions of people, the Civil War, typhoid, hunger - all these misfortunes fell upon the country unexpectedly and mercilessly. Russia lost many of its territories, for centuries the painstaking labor of ordinary people and monarchs joining the empire. The collapse was universal and complete. That’s how they destroy competitors. By the middle of the nineteenth century, England was the strongest world power. Skillful politics, courage and determination of the small island state allowed him to move forward. But the powerfully developing Russia and Germany threatened to challenge the leadership of the British Empire. The way to solve this problem was old - to pit them together
        A conspiracy against the monarchy against the background of general discontent personified by Nicholas II and his wife, has matured in the layers of the Russian upper classes, including the military and land nobility, with the participation of even some members of the dynasty. A huge role at this stage of the conspiracy was played by Rodzianko, Guchkov and General Alekseev.
        However, the general leadership of the events taking place in Russia and their anti-monarchist orientation, first of all, were determined by the Masonic lodges under the leadership of the British special services. It was Freemasonry that managed to unite the movements and parties that were completely different in their goals and objectives, combining them into a single fist, and with its help destroy the millennial empire.
    5. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 13 February 2014 18: 27
      -1
      Arhj SU
      WHICH victory have you BEEN STORED?
      Are you going to carry frank delirium that the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, England, I and France, together with America, like this, for hello, with "love and gratitude" were given to Russia?
      It looks like YOU, the story, know very poorly.
    6. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka 13 February 2014 18: 28
      -6
      Quote: Arhj

      World War I - a war in which victory was stolen from us

      They stole it from themselves.
      1. Angro Magno
        Angro Magno 13 February 2014 20: 25
        0
        Figured it out myself?
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon 13 February 2014 22: 55
          +2
          Quote: Vovka Levka
          They stole it from themselves.

          Quote: Angro Magno
          Figured it out myself?


          Vovka Levka is 50% right - the sailors of the Baltic Fleet enthusiastically took up the "left-wing" - after all, shooting unarmed officers is much more interesting than fighting for the Motherland. Yes, and at the front, many soldiers did the same - read the history of the shock units of the Russian Imperial Army. There were cases when they went on the attack, and their "neighbors" plundered their supplies in the rear. And this is only the smallest - there were cases of shooting in the back.

          But all this does not arise out of nowhere - those who believe that the peasantry (and this is 70% of the population) supported the "revolutionaries" are wrong. Remember, first the overthrow (renunciation) of the tsar from power in the field of an incomprehensible clique of large industrialists and politicians, then - the speech of Kornilov, when Kerensky handed out weapons to the party of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), which was weak at that moment (it became a force after the defeat of Kornilov, when it refused to disarm) ), in the end (when until the end of the war there was little left and the allies would have to pay the bills) - the capture of the Winter Palace. Coincidence?
          PS: During the Russo-Japanese terror against the supporters of the government, it reached its peak precisely during active hostilities - how successfully the "guardians for the good of the people" acted, killing law-abiding citizens when their native country was fighting an external enemy.

          And yet - those who believe that it was very bad for the king under the tsar - talk to people who lived in tsarist times. Especially with immigrants from peasants - there were opportunities to create their own business and people used them.
          1. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka 13 February 2014 23: 13
            +2
            Quote: Blackgrifon
            Quote: Vovka Levka
            They stole it from themselves.

            Quote: Angro Magno
            Figured it out myself?


            Vovka Levka is 50% right - the sailors of the Baltic Fleet enthusiastically took up the "left-wing" - after all, shooting unarmed officers is much more interesting than fighting for the Motherland. Yes, and at the front, many soldiers did the same - read the history of the shock units of the Russian Imperial Army. There were cases when they went on the attack, and their "neighbors" plundered their supplies in the rear. And this is only the smallest - there were cases of shooting in the back.

            But all this does not arise out of nowhere - those who believe that the peasantry (and this is 70% of the population) supported the "revolutionaries" are wrong. Remember, first the overthrow (renunciation) of the tsar from power in the field of an incomprehensible clique of large industrialists and politicians, then - the speech of Kornilov, when Kerensky handed out weapons to the party of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), which was weak at that moment (it became a force after the defeat of Kornilov, when it refused to disarm) ), in the end (when until the end of the war there was little left and the allies would have to pay the bills) - the capture of the Winter Palace. Coincidence?
            PS: During the Russo-Japanese terror against the supporters of the government, it reached its peak precisely during active hostilities - how successfully the "guardians for the good of the people" acted, killing law-abiding citizens when their native country was fighting an external enemy.

            And yet - those who believe that it was very bad for the king under the tsar - talk to people who lived in tsarist times. Especially with immigrants from peasants - there were opportunities to create their own business and people used them.

            The basis of the basics is the observance of the oath. Point.
            Got "smart guys", always someone is to blame. You should look at the mirror more often.
            1. CALL.
              CALL. 14 February 2014 07: 57
              -1
              The February revolution found a country full of contradictions, but also retaining a sufficient amount of internal forces. For a few months, the Freemasons managed to aggravate literally all the contradictions that existed, destroy the state apparatus, police, army, intelligence, ruin the country's economy and proceed with their main task - the territorial collapse of the empire. However, having deliberately collapsed almost all the institutions of power, the Masons ended up completely powerless, they simply did not have any mechanisms to maintain power.
              Initially, for their satanic struggle against the state apparatus and the army, they used the dual power system they created and with the help of the Soviets, in which the parties of the Mensheviks and Socialist Revolutionaries controlled by them seized a dominant position, fought against any forces that defended Russia's national interests. Nevertheless, already in September, the Mensheviks and Socialist-Revolutionaries irretrievably lost their majority in the Soviets. And in their place came the irreconcilable enemies - the Bolsheviks and the Left Social Revolutionaries, who put an end to all this Anglo-Saxon camarilla.
            2. washi
              washi 14 February 2014 11: 10
              0
              Quote: Vovka Levka
              The basis of the basics is the observance of the oath. Dot. Got "smart guys", always someone is to blame. You should look at the mirror more often.

              The oath and the rest of the laws of their state.
              What we see on the Maidan, from the side of "Berkut"
            3. Blackgrifon
              Blackgrifon 14 February 2014 21: 31
              0
              Quote: Vovka Levka
              The mirror often needs to be watched.


              It is necessary to read literature periodically. Preferably scientific and professional.
          2. revnagan
            revnagan 17 February 2014 11: 38
            0
            Quote: Blackgrifon
            it became power precisely after the defeat of Kornilov, when she refused to disarm),

            Or maybe the CPSU (b) was already strong? How else could the Bolsheviks be able to defeat Kornilov? Otherwise, how could the weak, as you write, the CPSU (b) cope with Kornilov? And the sailors of the Baltic Fleet, whom you kicked, not all officers were shot, and not because it was more interesting than fighting. After all, the Red Banner Baltic Fleet stood out in a civil war against the intervention of the leading world powers. That, uneducated sailors could defeat the invaders themselves? No, they won under the command of the same officers .And you judge the events by the scenes from the movie "Admiral". Read at least L. Solovyov "Sea Soul" (I understand that this is an elementary school, but firstly, you need to start with a simple one, and secondly, this is your level) .Excellent events in Kronstadt are described by V.S. Pikul. Do not want to read fiction (although the author scrupulously studied the documents and evidence of those years and events about which he wrote), read S. Kara-Murza "History of Soviet civilization." links, layouts. Challenge if you do not agree. And think in categories - "B white knights; red-boors "was fashionable in the 90s, now it is already becoming a sign of bad taste.
  2. Deniska999
    Deniska999 13 February 2014 15: 49
    +8
    During the two World Wars, we bore the main burdens of the war on ourselves.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 13 February 2014 17: 15
      +20
      Quote: Deniska999
      During the two World Wars, we bore the main burdens of the war on ourselves.


      But in vain. It was not ours, it was a war. Not needed by Russia. Great Britain did not want to see Germany in its colonies, France wanted to recoup for defeat in 1871 and return Alsace and Lorraine. And we just played on the Slavic card.
      1. parus2nik
        parus2nik 13 February 2014 17: 32
        +2
        And how they played ...
      2. Angro Magno
        Angro Magno 13 February 2014 20: 27
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        we just played on the Slavic card.


        Extremely simplistic view of the problem.
      3. Patriot
        Patriot 13 February 2014 22: 02
        0
        Quote: Vadivak
        Quote: Deniska999
        During the two World Wars, we bore the main burdens of the war on ourselves.


        But in vain. It was not ours, it was a war. Not needed by Russia. Great Britain did not want to see Germany in its colonies, France wanted to recoup for defeat in 1871 and return Alsace and Lorraine. And we just played on the Slavic card.


        if not ours, if we hadn’t participated in the WWII and Germany would have won this war, it would have attacked us anyway, and given the then revolutionary situation in the country, we could have lost one-on-one with Germany and right now we would have been a German colony and right now the world would be completely different and right now we wouldn’t be sitting on the Internet and reasoning
        Yes, and the Internet would have been for ordinary people at least
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon 13 February 2014 22: 57
          0
          Quote: Patriot
          if not ours, because if we had not participated in the WWII and Germany would have won this war, it would have attacked us anyway


          I wouldn’t just attack - fascism did not just flourish in Germany. And we fought not only for the interests of others - full control over the Black Sea would give the country a considerable increase in the budget and completely protect the coast in the south from external enemies.
  3. Normman
    Normman 13 February 2014 16: 06
    +9
    How many Russian people died in that war! Bow to their graves to the ground for service to the Fatherland!
  4. ramsi
    ramsi 13 February 2014 16: 11
    +7
    oh how all this is not clear ... We could not escape the Second World War, but the First - ?!
    1. parus2nik
      parus2nik 13 February 2014 17: 31
      +1
      There was no escape ... France really wanted to return Alsace and Lorraine .. And without the help of Russia it was not possible to do it .. The French remembered that during the Franco-Prussian war of 1870-1871, Russia was an ally of Prussia and did not intervene in the war with France and how it ended..Germany, well, colonies were needed before the plague..England, Germany didn’t like it, a competitor in the East .. Having shared her teeth, England shared Persia, with Russia, dividing it into zones of economic influence, if only the Germans would not be allowed there .. The only thing that was possible to delay entry into the war .. but that’s why they killed the Archduke in Sarajevo so that Russia would not have time for reflection ..
      1. alex13-61
        alex13-61 13 February 2014 18: 22
        +1
        Quote: parus2nik
        ..but because of this they killed the Archduke in Sarajevo so that Russia would not have time for reflection ..

        And not only, there was also a false info about mobilization slipping through ... no doubt from the filing of the one who then spent time on the island, but overseas. But they raised money in the war ...
        1. parus2nik
          parus2nik 13 February 2014 20: 55
          0
          It was urgent to drag Russia into the war .. and the sooner the better for someone ..
      2. ramsi
        ramsi 13 February 2014 18: 25
        +1
        this is just a preliminary alignment (if it is) - but the will to conduct an independent game was not shown; and this war, as we can now judge, turned out to be a complete mistake for us
  5. EvilLion
    EvilLion 13 February 2014 16: 13
    -16%
    1915 to 1916 The Russian front was the main front of the struggle.


    Bullshit. Article minus.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 13 February 2014 16: 50
      +5
      Quote: EvilLion
      Bullshit. Article minus.

      The first half of your comment fully reflects its content. Without counter-thesis, evidence, without anything at all! Forgot, probably, still apply the beloved by many IMHO? Look at the maps of military operations on both sides (the number of participants, the intensity of the battles, the loss of human, material, territorial), then (after thinking) draw a conclusion.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 13 February 2014 17: 25
      +5
      Quote: EvilLion
      Bullshit.


      Since 1915, a positional war began on the Western Front, and the Germans on the Eastern Front began to actively attack, knocked out our troops from Prussia and the Baltic states, the cadres of the regular Russian army were practically destroyed.
      And 1916 is famous for the Brusilovsky breakthrough, the army of Austria-Hungary was almost completely defeated. At the end of this year, Germany was ready to cede the straits, but then came 1917
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 13 February 2014 18: 38
        +3
        Hi Vadim. hi
        Quote: Vadivak
        but then came 1917

        That's why he came. As soon as Russia had successes at the front, it jeopardized the plans of the main beneficiaries of the war. Henry Ford wrote about them in two volumes. These same people sponsored the revolution.
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т 13 February 2014 21: 19
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          These same people sponsored the revolution.

          Which one? And to blurt out - it's like the "historians" of the 90s put a shadow on the fence. But if the speech is for Lenin, then "these persons" can be erected - with their money we showed them a fig and built the most advanced state in the history of mankind.
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      1. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 13 February 2014 18: 30
        0
        Vadivak (1)
        Germany was ready to abolish the straits ?? This from what follows?
        Gallipoli and operation mediocre and bloody Western allies against Turkey, an ally of Germany, the willingness of Germany to cede the straits?
        Or the Gallipoli operation of the fleet and landing forces, is it an attempt by the West to saddle the Straits, not allowing Russia to go there?
    4. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 13 February 2014 22: 58
      0
      Quote: EvilLion
      Bullshit. Article minus.


      Compare the number of parts of Germany on the Eastern Front, and then voice the conclusions.
  6. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 13 February 2014 16: 15
    +4
    I drew attention to the photo to the article, very bright and sincere faces, you can see right away - HEROES.
  7. parus2nik
    parus2nik 13 February 2014 16: 17
    +4
    act of Russia, which stood up for Serbia. Altruism in global politics was previously unknown ... this is one side of the coin ... the other, Serbia simply dragged Russia into the war ... By the summer of 1914 Europe ... was not even sitting on a barrel of gunpowder, but on gunpowder and there was enough spark that if this gunpowder exploded .. The murder of the Erz-Duke Ferdinand served as this spark ... And so well, as if all countries were waiting for him .. and maybe they were preparing? Serbia, Mlada Bosna, Is the black toy hand in someone else's hands? And what is interesting .. when the Austro-Hungarian Empire collapsed .. Croats and Slovenes tried to declare, in the city of Paris, that they wanted to be independent .. to which the French responded on behalf of the whole of Europe .. that Croats and Slovenes they see only as part of the community Serbs and Croats, and even under the Versailles Treaty of Serbia, Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina were slaughtered .. For the murder of the Erz-Duke or for drawing Russia into the war ..? By the way, by this time, the French, British, Americans, Japanese - all allies in the Entente began to land on the territory of the former Russian Empire ... to "protect" the property of their citizens ...
  8. Tatarus
    Tatarus 13 February 2014 16: 19
    +3
    We need a lot of such articles
    We must see such heroes
    After all, the road awaits us again
    And again, Motherland, we all need friends.

    We will not hide behind an important pretext for us
    Health, money - foam on the waves
    We will go into battle honestly, before God.
    We will be met with happiness there in heaven.

    Not death is scary, the life of descendants is terrible.
    When we retreat, we will stream, betray
    But I want someone to shout loudly.
    After all, the Motherland is with us, we will not betray Her.

    For those who shout, I will go to death.
    I wanted to say so, but still did not say.
    I’m scared people, you believe me.
    What will not come, who shouted for me.

    And again I will fade away on the web.
    Or in a swamp a log drowning.
    We all went out in a routine of life.
    There are no burning voices among us.

    If I can’t wait, I will bequeath to my son.
    If you hear a voice, then go to battle.
    He will not back down I know for sure.
    I will stand my son next to you here.

    And after you, from kind to family will be here.
    Tatars, Russians, Caucasus or Taiga.
    My son is not afraid, for he knows for sure.
    We are not afraid of eternal war.
    13.02.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Tatarus with love
  9. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 13 February 2014 16: 19
    +10
    The war was imperialist in the interests of the elite of the belligerent countries practically for markets, contrary to the wishes of the peoples. Our poorly armed Russian soldier bore the brunt of the war. After defeat in the war with Japan, 10 years later, under pressure from the Entente, to fight against the strongest army to please the "allies" (who fought, alien to them, the lives of Russian soldiers).
    The mediocre leadership in the early days of the war practically abandoned Samsonov’s army, which practically captured East Prussia. And in order to keep it was necessary to come to the aid of a neighboring army at the time. Practically betrayal of the top together with a weak-willed king. And in retaliation, as a result, a Russian soldier in the Civil War drove from his land not only his former allies (like a raven who attacked a disparate Russia), but also his generals.
    1. Black
      Black 13 February 2014 16: 30
      -5
      Quote: vlad.svargin
      The war was imperialistic in the interests of the top elite of the warring countries almost over the markets contrary to the desires of the peoples.


      Do you still believe in a class approach in historical processes?
      Any struggle in the geopolitical field is a struggle of ethnic groups, not classes. Both world wars are vivid confirmation of this.
      So, with the desires of the peoples, these wars quite echoed themselves!
      1. alex13-61
        alex13-61 13 February 2014 18: 34
        +1
        Quote: Chen
        so what, with the desires of the peoples, these wars quite echoed themselves!

        I do not agree, in any way. The Russians and the Germans were simply pushed together with their foreheads in the First World War ... But there was no antipathy to each other. How many German colonists lived on the territory of Russia?
        And in my deep conviction: it was necessary to fight along with the Germans, and not against them. And the world would be different now - certainly better.
        1. Black
          Black 13 February 2014 18: 56
          -1
          Quote: alex13-61
          it was necessary to fight with the Germans


          This is such a short-sighted Russian Tsar, and a peace-loving, flexible Russian people. The first one did not start a fight with it for the sake of the imperialist capitalists, the Russian people cannot be driven out of the oven ... In general, one Nikolashka-do ** ak, the other fought from under the stick. And then what was called the Patriotic War? And fought heroically? Really - they deceived my great-grandfathers, they didn’t fight for the Motherland, then for the capitalist damned !!!!
          Any major war, either explicitly or implicitly, bears the confrontation of ethnic groups, but not classes.
          1. alex13-61
            alex13-61 13 February 2014 19: 16
            +1
            Quote: Chen
            short-sighted Russian tsar,

            Yes, it didn’t work out with Tsar Nikolashka: if only a short-sighted one ... complete lack of will. This is not for you Vanya the Terrible, Peter 1 or Catherine and so on.
            Quote: Chen
            Any major war, either explicitly or implicitly, bears the confrontation of ethnic groups, but not classes.

            I don’t mind classes, but regarding ethnic groups, I repeat: Russians had no antipathy for the Germans. Moreover, many ethnic Germans fought as part of the Russian army. And any big war is the result of big politics ... And there are some kind of cunning ethnic groups that play off others, they heat their paws on this ... look for who benefits ... Who "rose" in the First World War ???
        2. Black
          Black 13 February 2014 19: 27
          0
          Quote: alex13-61
          .And there was no antipathy to each other. How many German colonists lived in Russia?


          laughing Oh how !!!! Argument!!!
          You see strange reasons for war, however.
          In your war, are waged for reasons of sympathy, antipathy ??? belay You somehow, your will, have not tried to look wider?

          there are some cunning ethnic groups

          I get it now!!!
          I have no more arguments !!!! And then I argue everything ... but here everything is just !!!
      2. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 13 February 2014 18: 36
        +1
        Black (1
        And so look broader than the scientists who spoke and confirm to this day-1 world, is this a battle of capitalist predators, in an attempt to redistribute the world?
        And the Second World War, it was therefore not a redistribution, dangerously offended by the Versailles of Germany, of a world order that was artfully directed by the Nuggosaks against the emerging new Socio-political community, called the USSR?
        And in your words, the Russian people, in World War I, danced straight from the impatient war, and in World War II, didn’t feed directly with bread, but did the Russian people want to fight again?
        You only tell this nonsense to yourself, being confident that all Historians, except for brewers and other Svanidz, are not right with cutters ...
        1. Black
          Black 13 February 2014 19: 04
          +1
          Quote: vladkavkaz
          You only tell this nonsense to yourself, being confident that all Historians, except for brewers and other Svanidz, are not right with cutters ...


          I am not particularly familiar with the historical concepts of the historians you cited.
          You ascribe to me "delirium" from theory
          D.M. Krylova, Gumilyov. Are these even dumber than you?
          1. Black
            Black 13 February 2014 19: 14
            +1
            The reasons for Russia's participation in the 1st World War are rightly considered these:
            1. She demanded a review in her favor of the control regime over the Dardanelles, because she wanted to have free access for her fleet in the Mediterranean.
            2. Assessed the construction of the Berlin-Baghdad railway (1898) as an act unfriendly from Germany. Russia saw in this construction an encroachment on its rights in Asia. Although, as historians note, in 1911, these disagreements with Germany were settled by the Potsdam Agreement.
            3. She did not want to put up with Austrian penetration of the Balkans and the fact that Germany was gaining strength and began to dictate its conditions in Europe.
            4. She wanted to dominate all Slavic peoples, therefore she supported the anti-Austrian and anti-Turkish sentiments among the Serbs and Bulgarians in the Balkans.

            I think that these are direct Russian national interests. Therefore, the Second World War cannot be considered purely imperialist.
            1. vladkavkaz
              vladkavkaz 13 February 2014 19: 42
              +2
              1 World War, UNDER ANY CONDITIONS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE CALLED "Great Patriotic War".
              What kind of “Patriotic” it can be? Why would you call it that and what is the rationale?
              Agitprop of the present, in order to replace the MEMORY of events Precisely, THE PATRIOTIC WAR-1941-1945, the contrived term "patriotic" in relation to the war-1914-1916?
              1. Black
                Black 13 February 2014 21: 28
                -2
                Quote: vladkavkaz
                Agitprop of the present, in order to replace the MEMORY of events of the PATRIOTIC WAR, 1941-1945


                I dare to assure you, that was the name of that war before the Bolsheviks rewrote history for themselves. And it’s not for you to reconsider the realities, even if you really, really, really want to.

                Quote: vladkavkaz
                in relation to the war, 1914-1916?


                What is that, ended in 1916? Maybe you're talking about some other ???
                1. vladkavkaz
                  vladkavkaz 14 February 2014 17: 56
                  0
                  Black (
                  It is hard to guess why the full 16 is indicated, but 17 is not indicated?, In relation to Russia, But tell the story you know ...
          2. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 13 February 2014 19: 40
            +3
            Gumilev-Politician, statesman and commander? Truth in the last resort?
            Yes, Gumilev Thought so, but his thoughts had little meaning against the background of a reality in which there was no "Victory", and even with control over the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, which means Victory over Turkey, with the loss of Constantinople to it, could not be considered.
            The story -HAS HAPPENED as it took place, and not as you WISH.
            The study of History is based on the principle of historicity, in relation to those conditions, and not to the principle, if only grandma would be a grandfather, if something had grown.
            1. 11111mail.ru
              11111mail.ru 13 February 2014 20: 42
              0
              Quote: vladkavkaz
              Gumilev-Politician, statesman and commander

              Quote: vladkavkaz
              Yes Gumilyov Thought so, but his thoughts had little meaning

              Dear, what Gumilyov you called "-Politician, statesman and commander". I have on my bookshelf the works of two Gumilevs: dad (husband of A.A. Akhmatova) = poet Nikolai Stepanovich and son = Lev Nikolaevich, a learned historian / geographer who served three times for his father who was shot. If you meant P.N. Milyukov, then he is not a commander. Clarify about the "commander Gumilyov".
              1. vladkavkaz
                vladkavkaz 14 February 2014 17: 59
                0
                11111mail.ru
                The phrase sounds, punctuation and question are not familiar?
                “Gumilyov the Politician, the statesman and the commander? Is the truth in the last resort?” - I WOULD copy it correctly, they would not ask irrelevant questions.
            2. Black
              Black 13 February 2014 21: 31
              -1
              Quote: vladkavkaz
              The story -HAS HAPPENED as it took place, and not as you WISH.
              The study of History is based on the principle of historicity, in relation to those conditions, and not to the principle, if only grandma would be a grandfather, if something had grown.


              Yes you, I see, theorist !!!
              I'm retreating.
              1. vladkavkaz
                vladkavkaz 14 February 2014 17: 57
                +1
                Black (
                right, because there’s nothing to smack stupidity ..
      3. washi
        washi 14 February 2014 11: 25
        0
        Quote: Chen
        Any struggle in the geopolitical field is a struggle of ethnic groups, not classes.

        In the 19th century, the north of Russia on German maps was designated as the place of residence of the Aryans, i.e. friendly to the Germans people.
        Under normal foreign policy, Austria-Hungary could be divided between Germany and Russia. Give Western Europe and Africa to Germany. The Balkans and part of the Middle East to pick up for themselves.
        Muslims of Russia would welcome the inclusion of Mecca in the Republic of Ingushetia. Yes, they do not mind now. Who has the centers of religions - he has power.
        Unfortunately, since ancient Russia there has been a war of the West against us. Russia was able to unite peoples on its territory, and will be able on a global scale, if they allow.
  10. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 13 February 2014 16: 19
    +5
    Today, many are wondering whether it is worth remembering the date of August 1, 1914.

    So, really, is it worth it?

    Worth it. And this is really necessary ... In Soviet times, this war was one of those that are called "unpopular". And the name was given to it a kind of "class" - imperialist ...
    But even this "unpopular" and "imperialist" one was fought by ordinary Russian soldiers. They fought, died, showed examples of perseverance and heroism ... It was not for nothing that this war was called the Patriotic War in those days ...
    So it may be worth remembering this. Recall and pay tribute to all those who went through this war. And there is something to remember - and Osovets, and Brusilovsky breakthrough, and the raid of Baratov ...
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 13 February 2014 19: 44
      +1
      Well, well, in "those days, they called ..." Who called it? The officials who tried to somehow justify this war? Or the PEOPLE who did not accept this war under any slogans?
  11. omsbon
    omsbon 13 February 2014 16: 22
    +2
    What wonderful faces this old photograph captured! HEROES !!!
  12. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 13 February 2014 16: 22
    +1
    Ours would have been able to hold out for a maximum of a couple of months, take Constantinople from the languid Turks, and there the emotional upsurge, hurray-hurray, and everything would be different.
    1. leks
      leks 13 February 2014 17: 15
      +1
      FC Skiff
      Alas, this would not have changed anything, even if they had taken it, it would have had to be given in the light of the events that occurred in 1917-1918.
      It all comes down to the top then, if Tsar Nicholas 2 was not a weak-willed king, but kept all presumptuous in (hedgehogs), that is, would not be sent to exile in Siberia and put to the wall after a guilty verdict, then vryatli would have happened and the first revolution and the second, would not lose to the Japanese and would not lose the first World War !!!
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 13 February 2014 18: 48
        +1
        Quote: leks
        Alas, this would not have changed anything, even if they had taken it, it would have had to be given in the light of the events that occurred in 1917-1918.

        Here, I fundamentally disagree. Encouraged by victories, even in the war imposed on them, it is very difficult to push the revolution. But the defeats are depressing, and I want to find the guilty one, and tear myself away on it. Nikolashka was weak-willed, I agree, that’s what they turned to please the customers of the war. defeats were profitable for them, without them the revolution would not have grown together. hi
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 14 February 2014 14: 24
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          But the defeats are depressing, and I want to find the guilty one, and tear myself away on it. Nikolashka was weak-willed, I agree, that’s what they turned to please the customers of the war. defeat was profitable for them

          The army was retreating, and its morale was falling not because of the groans of the newspaper men in the rear, but from the lack of ammunition. In "Essays on Russian Troubles," General Denikin wrote about the days when he was commander of the 4th SD: "Spring 1915. will remain in my memory forever. The great tragedy of the Russian Army - the retreat from Galicia. No ammo, no shells. From day to day, heavy transitions, endless fatigue - physical and moral, then timid hopes, then hopeless horror. I remember the battle of Przemysl in mid-May. “11 days of terrible hum of German heavy artillery, literally tearing down whole rows of trenches along with their defenders. We almost did not answer - there is nothing. Shelves, exhausted to the last degree, fighting off one attack after another, with bayonets or point-blank shooting, blood was pouring, rows were thinning, grave hills grew ... Two regiments were destroyed by one artillery fire. When, after the three-day silence of our only six-inch battery, fifty shells were brought to her, this was reported by telephone to all the regiments, companies, and all the shooters sighed with joy and relief. ”
          That's what the artillery marshal N.D. Yakovlev: - “The matter was different. In addition to psychological reasons, in the art. supplies hosted by someone's invisible hands. Someone was interested in the Russian army being defeated due to the lack of shells, while the rear depots were clogged with them to the limit. "
  13. Same lech
    Same lech 13 February 2014 16: 31
    +8
    The war, like a gigantic ghoul, drank the forces of the peoples of Europe, devastated them morally and physically.


    This is true - I saw a photo where hundreds of skeletons of Russian soldiers somewhere in the fields of EUROPE LAY UNBURISHED — a difficult picture for me — how many mothers of wives and children didn’t wait for their breadwinners — all the crooks won from this massacre not only our PEOPLE — damned this war brought so much suffering to people.
  14. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 13 February 2014 16: 31
    +4
    Of course, you shouldn't forget, but the culprits must already be named directly. As always, the fish rotted from the head, and indeed someone else during the Napoleonic wars said about the Russian army: “They have soldiers with a lion's head, officers with a donkey's head, and generals have no heads at all. "With rare exceptions, I completely agree with this expression.
    1. avg
      avg 13 February 2014 17: 46
      +1
      Quote: Standard Oil
      , and indeed someone else during the Napoleonic Wars said about the Russian army: "They have soldiers with a lion's head, officers with a donkey's head, and generals without a head at all."

      He said - a smart enemy, but whoever repeats, that ...
      It remains to clarify the question of how we, so miserable, managed the same Napoleon to hang lyuley. wink
      1. Ivan93
        Ivan93 13 February 2014 22: 40
        0
        Napoleon said: if I had Cossacks, I would have conquered the whole world "
    2. alex13-61
      alex13-61 13 February 2014 18: 42
      +2
      Quote: Standard Oil
      , and the generals have no heads at all "

      Well, yes, Suvorov, it turns out, is complete mediocrity ... Do not repeat nonsense ...
  15. Black
    Black 13 February 2014 16: 32
    +1
    Quote: omsbon
    What wonderful faces this old photograph captured!


    surrenders to me is a photo from the Japanese .... ????
  16. avg
    avg 13 February 2014 16: 40
    +6
    Just remember.
  17. Rus2012
    Rus2012 13 February 2014 16: 45
    +6
    My grandfather went through the Second World War, as he was called at the beginning ... He returned shell-shocked ... The first imperialist, as they later called.
    To forget this war means to abandon the grandfather ... as if he had not been?
    Netushka ... grandfather is a grandfather!
  18. Same lech
    Same lech 13 February 2014 16: 58
    +6
    This photo is for fans to wave a saber, imagine that this is your ashes in the war which you so wanted.
    1. avg
      avg 13 February 2014 17: 29
      +2
      Eh Lech, how much we saw this ..., but I completely agree with the fact that you need to wave the saber wisely.
  19. shelva
    shelva 13 February 2014 17: 01
    +4
    So that the Russian does not remember this date? Then you can forget the prowess of Russian weapons, for example, the Brusilov breakthrough ...
  20. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 13 February 2014 17: 30
    +1
    History is what distinguishes us from barbarians, what makes us what we are.
    1. CALL.
      CALL. 14 February 2014 14: 32
      0
      Quote: ShadowCat
      History is what distinguishes us from barbarians, what makes us what we are.

      “... He who wants to foresee the future must turn to the past. ... All events in the world at any time can be comparable with similar ones in olden times. The nature of people at all times is almost the same. ” Niccolo Machiavelli from the treatise "Reasoning on the First Decade of Titus Livius."
  21. rotmistr4
    rotmistr4 13 February 2014 17: 39
    +2
    Once again, the RUSSIAN Soldier saved the "brothers" from genocide !!! And where is the gratitude?
    Bulgarians, Czechs, Slovaks, Croats fought against Russia twice and were the first to rush into the arms of NATO !!!
    Some Serbs remember who are required to FREEDOM and Independence !!!!
  22. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 13 February 2014 17: 54
    +4
    Evaluate and debate is not necessary! You just need to remember your story. Unfortunately, it’s very difficult.
  23. loginovich
    loginovich 13 February 2014 18: 29
    +2
    Another patriot, if you fight, then to the last Russian soldier. I would sit in the trenches autumn and winter could get
  24. optimist
    optimist 13 February 2014 18: 37
    +6
    Of course it's worth remembering. At least in order not to step on the same "rake" again! Now, 100 years later, everything is exactly the same: a corrupt, corrupt government; deterioration of the economic situation; interethnic problems; conflicts in neighboring countries; and most importantly, the jidomasons in the USA and Europe again need to zero their costs and cut the dough. Yes, and the people on the planet have bred immeasurably ... And again they really want to use Russia as "cannon fodder" ... I would very much like to hope that ours ...deleted by moderator Apollo will be smarter than the rings of the second ...
  25. Black
    Black 13 February 2014 19: 21
    +3
    Quote: optimist
    I would very much hope that our .....deleted will be smarter than the rings of the second ...


    .....deleted by moderator Apollo... Kolka ...
    From a small letter ... Do you think that you are not lower than God?
    Quote: optimist
    Now, after 100 years, everything is exactly the same: corrupt, corrupt power

    The drunk coume has one thing in mind !!!
    Quote: optimist
    And again they really want to use Russia as "cannon fodder"

    Whose pipe is calling, who is trying to draw us in again?
    Who say decisive, NO WAR !!!
    1. optimist
      optimist 13 February 2014 21: 56
      +2
      Quote: Chen
      From a small letter ... Do you think that you are not lower than God?

      Do not be a fool, please, dear ... I certainly do not suffer from megalomania.
  26. Duke
    Duke 13 February 2014 19: 23
    +5
    immortal march
  27. morpogr
    morpogr 13 February 2014 19: 28
    +2
    This must be remembered.
    A nation that does not remember its past has no future. Klyuchevsky.
    I will remember my children and teach this, because my grandfather fought as part of the Russian Expeditionary Force in France.
  28. Neophyte
    Neophyte 13 February 2014 19: 44
    0
    The greatest tragedy and immortal glory! It is only a pity that we got involved in
    this war. Once, we saved the Bulgarians, then the Serbs? The best soldiers died,
    First of all, an elite guard loyal to the throne. Left behind
    shopkeepers, deviators from the front who could not and did not want to pacify
    revolution. Eternal glory to the fallen soldiers!
  29. Bootlegger
    Bootlegger 13 February 2014 20: 00
    +2
    historical reference, the beginning of World War I is believed to be the Serb’s murder of Prince Ferdinand in Sarajevo. The killer shot twice from the old Browning. Two of the princes were killed and two bullet holes in a convertible. The Serb killer was captured alive. Everyone knows the war. Very interesting bullets. see in London and Washington remote control has long been mastered. Two close POWERS pushed a revolution broke out in both. Busy bullets
    1. parus2nik
      parus2nik 13 February 2014 20: 52
      0
      And it’s so impressive that the European powers were waiting for these shots ...
      1. Black
        Black 13 February 2014 21: 39
        +1
        Quote: parus2nik
        And it’s so impressive that the European powers were waiting for these shots ...

        "War is ... war !!!! IT cannot be appointed when you want to !!!"
        This is not an impression, this is TRUE.
        Events such as world wars do not erupt spontaneously, as some participants in the discussion seem. They are not conducted on a whim, not because of unsympathetic neighbors.
        Shot in Sarajevo was waiting for the whole world. Russia was waiting for him.
        The world was doomed to war .. and the first, and its outcome, the second.
  30. ONlopas
    ONlopas 13 February 2014 20: 47
    0
    Quote: Vadivak
    It was not ours, it was a war. Not needed by Russia. Great Britain did not want to see Germany in its colonies, France wanted to recoup for defeat in 1871 and return Alsace and Lorraine. And we just played on the Slavic card.

    And Russia, as the main European player, could not help but participate!
  31. VadimSt
    VadimSt 13 February 2014 20: 58
    +1
    History should be remembered not only by historians and those who in one way or another refer to it, this should become the concern of the state, every citizen, from an early age, should absorb historical events, achievements and destinies of their ancestors, and not the heroes of Shakespeare or Ines Rodin (" The rich also cry "). What am I for? Besides, history should be absorbed by a citizen of the country not only from the course of history, but every day, through the media, culture, art, etc.
    Are there many media, artists, writers, etc. at the moment that contribute to patriotic education, a sense of pride in the ancestors and responsibility of the younger generation?

    February, rich in historical events for Russia, is the first census, under Peter 1, and the beginning of collectivization, and the invention of Radio Popov, and the first military Usta in Russia, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, and ..., and ..., and...! This is our story, our memory, our pride and pain!

    For me personally, it was not pleasant to hear on the news that a significant event took place in Moscow - the exhibition Vorhal, - "Ten Great Jews of Mankind". I, a Slav and a Russian, and let, about such masterpieces and their significance (count for everyone who watches the news of the state channel), inform their fans and specialists, and not the whole country and neighboring countries! I am not interested in this news and their significance, and do not cause feelings of pride for ancestors!
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 13 February 2014 23: 32
      +1
      Quote: VadimSt
      For me personally, it was not pleasant to hear on the news that a significant event took place in Moscow - the exhibition Vorhal, - "Ten Great Jews of Mankind". I, a Slav and a Russian, and let, about such masterpieces and their significance (count for everyone who watches the news of the state channel), inform their fans and specialists, and not the whole country and neighboring countries! I am not interested in this news and their significance, and do not cause feelings of pride for ancestors!

      These are your personal problems and the problems of your upbringing. Jews are Russians just like you. Well, they were born here, which means Russian Jews. They have the right to be proud of their ancestors on an equal basis with you. Whoever thinks differently is wrong. We are one people from different nationalities, which is why Russia has always been strong. If you are against, you will be beaten alone. It's another matter when our "best enemies" work for this, hiding behind all sorts of NGOs, etc., engaging in espionage and propaganda-subversive, in fact, activities, I agree here. But do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs, as they say.
  32. Black
    Black 13 February 2014 21: 47
    0
    Quote: VadimSt
    February, rich in historical events for Russia

    The historical path of our Motherland is so long and saturated with great glory and great tragedies that any month is as GREAT !!!!

    Quote: VadimSt
    For me personally, it was not pleasant to hear on the news that a significant event took place in Moscow - the exhibition Vorhal, - "Ten Great Jews of Mankind"


    Do not listen! Do you (Slav, Russian !!!) have no more business? AND...
    The Russians were always generous. That is strong (soft power is the weapon that we have mastered the sixth of the earth). Let's be more tolerant.
  33. VadimSt
    VadimSt 13 February 2014 22: 25
    0
    Quote: Chen
    Do not listen! Do you (Slav, Russian !!!) have no more business? AND...

    Yes, it is understandable. You are some kind of special "Volgograd, thoroughbred Cossack", based on your words: -
    We do not relate to the Russians. This infuriates the Russians (they have the right, because we have a lot of Russian blood - because of the attributed Cossacks) ... I didn’t think that this somehow worries you either.
    , think that all of you have the same opinion!
  34. s1н7т
    s1н7т 13 February 2014 23: 20
    +1
    I didn’t catch - but what’s the cross? Are you ready to sacrifice yourself because of someone's ambitions (about the Slavic brotherhood, etc.)? Complete nonsense. This cross was dragged by Russia because of the imperial ambitions of the non-Russian tsars - they didn't care how many Russian peasants put in order to help a cousin, for example. Thank God, the revolution seems to have rid us of them. But - the force of habit, probably, which was not eradicated by 70 years of Soviet power, and again - Yeltsin, Chubais, the WTO, the IMF, who give a damn about us. We were just out of luck. Orthodoxy, Romanovs, etc. spoiled the genes for a long time. Nothing will pass. And this "cross" will come back to haunt our "best enemies" in the form of an aspen stake where necessary (by the way, Orthodoxy is against it in advance - they are also afraid of an aspen stake, or what?).
  35. Val roman
    Val roman 14 February 2014 02: 22
    0
    Good article and photo, I would like to ask the author to mail this article
    Yanukovych with a question, for how many billions are he and his political bombond going to sell
    common memory of these people.