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"Bloody dogs of the Kremlin." Is it true?

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OR AS A JOURNAL OF DER SPIEGEL BREAKED UP TO THE OLYMPIAD IN SOCHI INFORMATION BOMB


This is the title of the material published by 15 on January 2014 of the year in the German magazine Der Spiegel. Literally, it sounds like this: "Russlands Spezialeinheiten: Bluthunde des Kreml". The publication itself needs no introduction, as well as the fact that since the times of the USSR it has not exactly breathed in relation to our country.

COURAGE AND “MILITARY CRIMES”
On the Internet, there was even a discussion about the title. There were well-wishers who began to assure: bluthund is, say, cop dogs, bloodhounds. Therefore, we are talking about the breed of dogs. But only!

However, anyone familiar with the German language will clarify: the word “bluthund” in relation to a person has a clearly negative meaning, it means “bloodsucker”, “blood dog”. Actually, this is why many readers of Der Spiegel on the magazine’s forum left their negative comments, including with regard to the title - the Germans understood everything correctly!

And in this regard, the first question: how would the veterans of the German special services react if one of the leading Russian magazines soldered an essay entitled: “Employees of the GHA-9 are bloody dogs Angels Merkel?” And then, let's say, would link it with the Israeli death delegations to the Olympic Games in Munich (1972 year).

A version of the essay was published by Profil magazine, which is published in Russia together with Der Spiegel magazine. The title, however, slightly corrected: "The Kremlin watchdogs." However, horseradish radish is not sweeter.

The author of the “masterpiece” is Matthias Schepp. He has been working in Moscow for a long time, with a break in China. Nine years old - not a cat started! It was all the more interesting to read his libel, timed to the Sochi Olympics.

As you know, any article begins with an introduction. Like an overture in a musical work, it includes major themes that are further developed. So, we read: “The Moscow correspondent of the German magazine Der Spiegel Matthias Schepp met with several special forces officers. Interrupting their long-term silence, they for the first time revealed some details of the taking of hostages in the Dubrovka theater and operations in Afghanistan and Chechnya.

"It stories, - writes Mr. Shepp, - about great courage and amazing willingness to make sacrifices, but also about war crimes and disillusionment in a state that sends troops to the hardest tasks, decorates soldiers and officers with orders, and then simply forgets about veterans of elite units as if they were not there. ”

Two key points are striking. Firstly, the word “for the first time”, secondly, “war crimes”. In other words, the special forces with whom the journalist met - war criminals! They, and military teams in which they served.

As a journalist with some experience, Mr. Shepp must understand that the concept of "war crimes" is not a figure of speech; it, this concept, must have a specific confirmation, supported by a court decision or a body of justice. Otherwise, it is a lie, nonsense, a way of waging an information war.

Oh, by the way - about "for the first time." Mr. Shepp obviously lost his temper. Figures of the essay, officers of Group A, have repeatedly told in the press about the operations carried out, including on the pages of our newspaper Special Forces of Russia.

Among the five heroes of the essay, two are the officers of Group A: Colonel Emyshev Valery Petrovich, from the first composition of Alpha, a participant in the storming of Amin’s palace, and Colonel Mikhailov Alexander Vladimirovich.

Three more represent the GRU and the special forces of the Interior Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (spotted berets). Among them is the colonel
Vladimir Kvachkov, known for his extremely harsh attitude towards Vladimir Putin and imprisoned on charges of preparing a military coup.

"UNDER VODKA AND SNOWFISH"
I'll start with Colonel Emyshev. We are talking about the storming of the palace of Amin (Afghanistan). Valery Petrovich was indeed the first to make his way to the Taj Beck, where he lost his hand as a result of shrapnel wounds. And he, the party organizer of Group A of the KGB of the USSR, in fact, adhered to communist views to the end. It's all true. Colonel Emyshev passed away in September 2012. The story comes from a man who is almost a half year dead
Colonel Emyshev passed away in September 2012. The story comes from a man who is almost a half year dead

And now - attention! “Now his Alpha, as the veteran told (for vodka and snacks), besides freeing the hostages, is responsible for guarding the dictator of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, and at the same time guarantees that the Kremlin’s first signal“ merges ”.”

Under the vodka and snack ... So, the veteran chatted on a drunken bench, gave the secret of state importance to a visiting correspondent from Germany.
"Bloody dogs of the Kremlin." Is it true?
Colonel Emyshev passed away in September 2012. That is, the story comes from a man who almost a half year as no longer alive! That's how it turns out, however. Valery Petrovich died of cancer, with which he courageously fought, remaining in a clear memory. He was practically unable to drink.


The interview itself took place in 2009. Valery Petrovich set a tough condition: he agrees to a conversation if he is given the opportunity to familiarize himself with the material and make changes to it that he deems necessary to do. “Of course, of course!” They promised him.

As the Russian proverb says, they have been waiting for the promised three years. In this case, Emyshev did not wait at all. Died I did not see this libel.

But maybe Valery Petrovich still spoke about Ramzan Kadyrov? And this is where Yulia Emysheva, the daughter of the Group A veteran of the KGB of the USSR, comes to our rescue. She was present during the conversation "from" and "before." She said that the conversation took place in the gazebo in their country house, that Mattias Shepp brought as a gift a bottle of wine, which is still uncorked.

So, Yulia Valeryevna unequivocally asserts: “During the interview, the“ grandfather ”spoke a lot about Afghanistan, about Viktor F. Karpukhin. The theme of Chechnya did not rise at all, as Kadyrov was not mentioned either. ”

Perhaps Mr. Shepp did not know about the death of Valery Petrovich? Or vice versa - I knew, and therefore I decided to insert the words about Ramzan Kadyrov. Yemyshev after all will not be able to refute. Dead shame not imut.

But bad luck! There is a witness to that conversation at the dacha in Tagankovo, Yulia Emysheva. For the honor of her father, she is even ready to sue the author of the article.

EVERYTHING MIXED IN OBLONSKY'S HOUSE
Another hero of the essay, designed to illustrate the phrase about the “war crimes” of the special forces, was Colonel Alexander Mikhailov. He met with Mr. Shepp only once. However, not in the 2013 year, allegedly, but in October 26 2009, in Dubrovka. That is, for four and a half years, the German journalist was clearly not in a hurry to do the interview, but realized it just before the Olympics in Sochi!

Employees of "Alpha" and "Vympel", as if wound up, carried out from the hall hostages


The correspondent was brought by Dmitry Belyakov, famous for the series of photo portraits "Faces of Special Forces" and a report from Beslan. About him a special conversation. For now we confine ourselves to the fact that D. Belyakov also attended 26 of October 2009 of the year in Dubrovka and participated in the conversation.

Colonel Mikhailov talked about how the assault took place and what preceded it. He tried to convey to the interlocutor the main idea that in those circumstances "the guys showed courage, resilience and high professionalism."

As a remark: after the release to the reserve, Colonel Mikhailov repeatedly gave interviews to the largest Russian publications, and also raised the subject of “Nord-Ost” to a wide variety of audiences. So, his words have never sounded a negative evaluation of the operation at Dubrovka. Everything was done that could be done in those extremely difficult conditions. That is his fundamental assessment.



From left to right: Alexander Mikhailov, the commander of Group "A" in 1991-1992. Mikhail Golovatov and the first head of Kiev Alpha Peter Zakrevsky


Now let's see what Mr. Shepp said on the pages of Der Spiegel. “The assault, the participant in the events explains, was supposed to be a triumph for the Russian special services, but turned into a real catastrophe.” What can I say? “Everything is mixed up in the Oblonskys' house” - Leo Tolstoy wrote in the novel “War and Peace”. Similarly, everything is mixed up in the essay of Mr. Shepp. More precisely, mixed consciously.

Employees of “Alpha” and “Vympel” took hostages for four hours? Yes, this is nonsense ... Go ahead. Special Forces, moving on the roof of the theatrical complex, was really "illuminated." But by whom, let me ask? TV journalists who played into the hands of Movsar Barayev’s terrorists. But these are questions to journalists, to their conscience and decency, and not to the operational headquarters, and even more so to the special forces.


Scan scandalous title on the website of the magazine Der Spiegel


In any special operation there are "working moments". For example, two or three employees from the Mikhailov group did not have gas masks. So what? By the time it was decided to start the assault, they were already inside the complex. Therefore, Mikhailov forbade them to enter the hall, but when the rescue phase began, they made themselves gauze bandages and, together with other special forces, carried the hostages out of the hall.

Speaking about this to Mr. Shepp, Alexander Vladimirovich emphasized the exceptional courage of the employees of Alpha and Vympel, from the bullets of which not a single hostage was injured. All of them went to Nord-Ost voluntarily and well understood what they were facing. After all, had a combined explosion occurred, and all those who were in the hall — both hostages and special forces — would have been buried under collapsing multi-ton ceilings.


They managed to do without political correctness and translated literally: “The Kremlin blood dogs”

If you listen to Mr. Shepp, then there was complete chaos at Dubrovka. In fact, the special operation was carried out at the highest level, which, by the way, was not spoken in the foreign press by any random people, but by anti-terror professionals who knew the price of life and death.

Go ahead. “In the first Chechen war, the Kremlin, then headed by Yeltsin, sent Mikhailov's unit in Grozny in August to 1994 to catch the militants,” says Mr Schepp.


All photos in the magazine Der Spiegel passed photo correspondent Dmitry Belyakov


The German journalist confusedly confused everything that could be confused. First, in August 1994, no one sent Alpha to Grozny. The war has not yet begun. Secondly, we are talking about the breakthrough of Group A employees in the UFSB building during the fierce battles of the summer of 1996, when militant groups suddenly entered the Chechen capital. Thanks to the courage and composure of the anti-terror fighters, the building was held for almost twenty days, and then everyone who was there came out of the encirclement by order.

Evaluating the essay of Mr. Shepp, you can quote one more Russian classic, Mikhail Yuryevich Lermontov: “The horses, people, and volleys of thousands of guns merged into a drawn-out howl”.


Illustration for an interview with Matthias Schepp on the Slon Internet resource


... Let's return to the personality of a person, thanks to whom photographs from the archive of Emyshev and Mikhailov turned up in Der Spiegel. In 2009, the thirty-five years of the legendary Group A of the KGB-FSB was executed. One of Mikhailov’s comrades introduced him to the photographer Dmitry Belyakov, who popularized the Russian Special Forces. For this, in fact, Mikhailov and met with him. The result of their communication was an extensive interview published in the journal "Brother" for the anniversary of the unit.

Preparing the material, Belyakov asked Mikhailov for illustrations, and Alexander Vladimirovich provided pictures from his personal archive. Some of them were housed in Brothers.

And now some photos of Emyshev and Mikhailov, which Belyakov re-photographed, were suddenly published by Der Spiegel. At the same time, the editors clarified: “Archiv Alexander Mikhailov”, “Archiv Valery Yemyshev”. As if she received these pictures from them.

However, neither Mikhailov, nor Emyshev (in the person of his heirs) gave permission to publish archival photographs. Moreover, they did not transmit them to the German edition at all. How, then, is the ethics of journalism and ownership? I would like to get an answer: Dmitry, who do you work for? How could such a thing happen?

History ugly in all respects. And she needs her permission.

Kvachkov and Khodorkovsky. A CURTAIN!
Naturally, the centerpiece in the essay is given to Colonel Vladimir Kvachkov, who is presented to readers as a political leader, antagonist of Anatoly Chubais, a staunch anti-Semite and a pro who at his own risk advised the "war criminal Radko Mladić."

But at the same time ...

“When he was imprisoned in the case of the attempted assassination of Anatoly Chubais,” says Mr. Shepp, “he spent a month in the same cell with Mikhail Khodorkovsky. To plant the militant nationalist together with the Jew Khodorkovsky, who was liberated in December, was a special gesture of the Kremlin. Today Kvachkov respectfully speaks of Khodorkovsky. He inextricably linked his life with Russia, they are both victims of “international capital”.

Interestingly it turns out, isn't it? ..

“The extremist is supported by many special forces soldiers,” says a German journalist. - Most of them are nostalgic for the lost Soviet empire, even if they only remember it from childhood memories. They hate America, NATO, and "all the crazy liberals in Moscow." They have a low opinion of democracy, but they respect a strong ruler. So, it was those who should protect the country from terrorists and insurgents who found themselves in difficult relations with the modern state. ”

Thus, with a flick of the wrist “many Special Forces fighters” turn into extremists, ready to participate in the military coup a la Kvachkov. So literally follows from the text.

Essay ends so. The special forces veteran Sergey Illarionov is called by his comrade. “Sergey Trofimov's melancholic song is on the call. “Russia does not favor us either with fame or with the ruble, but we are its last soldiers ... And that means we must stand up until we die,” comes from the telephone. ”

Everything. A curtain.

This is how sensations are fabricated ...

This is how journalist Mattias Schepp, who has long lived in Russia and even found a life friend here named Marina, belongs to our country, publishing a libel on a given topic.

So before the Olympics in Sochi, one of the largest European magazines creates an image of the “Kremlin’s bloody dogs”, exploding a powerful information bomb.

This is how white turns into black, the special forces' heroes turn into war criminals, and the country to which they faithfully served is exposed as a heartless stepmother.

Yes, it was!

This was the case with the “best German” Gorbachev, who, during the period of perestroika, sent the military and special forces to conduct military actions (for example, in Vilnius), and then refused them.

That was the case with another beacon of liberals, although not so beloved in the West, Boris Yeltsin, who in October 1993 shot from tanks the country's parliament, and then staged a "small victorious war" in Chechnya.

Things have changed for the better in 2000's. And it is even difficult for the current generation of Alpha officers to imagine a situation where veterans equip them for war! But this was ... it was recently, during the First Chechen campaign.

That is why the false assertion is that “those who should protect the country from terrorists and insurgents, found themselves in difficult relations with the modern state”. This is Mr. Shepp’s difficult relationship with Russia, which is why it’s so hard for him to work with us. With his black-eye essay, timed to coincide with the Olympic Games in Sochi, Mr. Shepp simultaneously tried to set up Russian authorities against the special forces community. See, here they are! Well, in the information war, as we see, all methods are good. And for Der Spiegel magazine, nothing has changed in this regard. The Soviet Union, Russia ... How were the enemies, and stayed! Is that so?

It is good, however, that a significant number of Germans do not think in the categories of the Cold War. Evidence of this are negative comments to the essay. His author can only recall the proverb: “Das schlechteste Rad knarrt am meisten”. Translated into Russian, it sounds like this: “A bad wheel creaks stronger than others.”

Bernhard


This is pure propaganda again! Every state has its own "bloody dogs"! Why don't you portray the US Special Forces in such a critical way? Or Germany ... Otherwise, it seems that you are a low-objective institution of Western intelligence agencies.

Jerry Fletcher

I think the article title is completely unfortunate. Bloody dogs ?? !! We are talking about elite special forces, and such exist in the United States, Britain, Germany and France. However, it is unlikely that anyone will say “the bloody dogs of the White House” or “The bloody dogs of Mommies” - (meaning Merkel - Ed.) ... China is no longer the editors' goal, at present this goal is Russia. Therefore, trying to use any cliché, do not even disdain to use false information.

Rudlith

Popular media have always forgotten that today's Russia, which is constantly being bombarded, is the birthplace of people who two generations ago played a major role in liberating Germany from fascism. The number of human victims is known. However, while every Jew is fair! - enjoys universal respect and honor, Russians are constantly being spat upon, as a nation and as a collective. Goebbels just dances on his grave

ARE YOU WHO, MR. SHEPP?
The editors of the Special Forces of Russia asked to comment on the situation related to the defamatory publication in the magazine Der Spiegel, Colonel Alexander Mikhailov:
- To write about a successful or unsuccessful special operation, giving assessments, a person who first of all understands the tactics of conducting special operations to free hostages has the right to do this. I want to notice right away: his knowledge should be above average on this topic. As far as I understand from your opus, Mr. Shepp, you do not possess such knowledge.
In order to hold such serious events, it is also necessary to know the general situation in Moscow and other cities and towns. All this and much more is included in the tactics of preparing a special operation ... And, of course, you need to know the very terminology and use it correctly, talking about the fight against terrorism.
Making political concessions to terrorists is “more expensive”. And so our leadership in October 2002 of the year made the only correct (at that time) decision - the assault! Remember Budyonnovsk when Prime Minister Chernomyrdin, a “professional negotiator,” released Shamil Basayev's gang. And then this scoundrel then terrorized Russia for about ten years with his attacks from around the corner, trying to put her on her knees. Did not work - was destroyed!
As for Nord-Ost, the special forces did the main thing that day, made a miracle: in that difficult situation did not allow the collapse of the multi-ton ceiling. By the way, Mr. Shepp, risking your life! Thanks to the courage and professionalism of the employees of Alpha and Vympel, more than seven hundred people were saved. And all your comments, Mr. Shepp, about the lack of gas masks, the display of special forces soldiers on the roof and any inconsistencies are just working moments.
Yes, it is possible that, in close cooperation with the doctors and the staff of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, it was possible to save some more people. But this question is not to the special forces, as we say: "the question is not about salary."
And I want to repeat once again for the retardants and those who want to defame, defame and distort the operation to free hostages at Dubrovka. The officers of the security forces and the special forces completed the task on 120%. By the way, especially for you, Mr. Shepp, I inform you: our staff, studying the Internet after the events at Dubrovka, made a selection of speeches by experts on the counterterrorism of western countries - SAS, GIGN, Cobra, Delta and Israelis, who appreciated the special operation positively. And who are you? Specialist, or what?


In conclusion, I want to say this. 2014 is the year of the 40 anniversary of the legendary division, the anniversary of Group A. And many journalists will want to interview you, comrades, veterans, to talk with you. Be careful in your speeches and judgments! Scoundrels, scoundrels from journalism are too many. There are those who work on the fifth column. So let the whole story connected with the publication in the magazine Der Spiegel be a good lesson and a warning.
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  1. arkady149
    arkady149 12 February 2014 08: 00 New
    +41
    The habit of shitting on the graves of heroes seems to be becoming a traditional European value.
    1. Civil
      Civil 12 February 2014 08: 04 New
      -3
      And what about Kvachkova is not true? The article is vile, but everything is exactly about Kvachkov.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 12 February 2014 11: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: Civil
        And what about Kvachkova is not true?

        The author deliberately put him on a par with Khodorkovsky, making them friends and fighters with the regime on paper. The usual juggling of facts, which all media do not disdain.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 12 February 2014 15: 06 New
          +3
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          The author deliberately put him on a par with Khodorkovsky, making them friends and fighters with the regime on paper. The usual juggling of facts, which all media do not disdain.

          No wonder, and somehow not sad ...
          The Cold Information War, as part of the Big Game, never ended, but only takes on new, expanded forms, using the capabilities of electronic media, which is said to be complete.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 12 February 2014 15: 12 New
            0
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            No wonder, and somehow not sad ...

            You're right, no wonder, but I'm still sad ...
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 12 February 2014 09: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: arkady149
      The habit of shitting on the graves of heroes seems to be becoming a traditional European value.
      ---- on this all their cannibalistic "civilization" is built
    3. Walk
      Walk 12 February 2014 10: 19 New
      +2
      They crap on our country as a whole, and not just on the graves of heroes. It’s high time to start a law office in order to attract defamation, distortion of facts, etc. Require, as the case may be, from a public apology to fines.
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 12 February 2014 10: 51 New
        +1
        The author of the "masterpiece" is Matthias Schepp (Matthias Schepp).

        A fellow tribesman and loyal successor to the work of Baron Munchausen.
        The Germans have this hereditary. In the Middle Ages, a lot of Germans (German nationalities) were hired by Landsknechts. To get a good salary, I had to fantasize about my exploits.
      2. Mstislav
        Mstislav 12 February 2014 13: 26 New
        0
        And a public apology and a fine.
    4. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. 12 February 2014 12: 18 New
      +2
      You know, and let the guys be proud of this name, BLOODY DOGS it speaks of how professionally and hard they work, I am proud that I live in Russia with such PEOPLE, I am a citizen of this COUNTRY. Let the name not hurt, they know the PRICE for themselves special forces guys. And this Amerikosovsky, it’s better to delve into his special forces, how they burned in Vietnam, failed operations in Afghanistan, Iran, Samoli, etc. .. If our BLOODY DOGS are then your FRIED GOESES, moreover, not the first freshness. Mr., it and in Africa Mr. beholds of impotence and anger, Roasted Rooster.
    5. Mairos
      Mairos 12 February 2014 17: 30 New
      0
      There it is now prestigious to be not a hero but a pid ... ohm. Here you and the attention of the press and the services of human rights defenders.
    6. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 12 February 2014 22: 17 New
      0
      This is war. Information war. And in the war the defending side loses. Need to beat back. And two times stronger ...
  2. invisibility
    invisibility 12 February 2014 08: 00 New
    +12
    Jackals. It is a pity that journalism as a profession turns into collecting market rumors, otherwise it would not be bad to recall the cartoons of the Great Patriotic War and publish them in the media, with minor modifications for today.
    1. olegff68
      olegff68 12 February 2014 13: 27 New
      +1
      And what to expect from them - one word pi .... sy (I apologize for my French) !!! am angry am angry
  3. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 12 February 2014 08: 09 New
    +10
    Apparently, fascism in Geyropa is inflamed with renewed vigor ... P ... we forgot who brought order in their time. Wouldn't it be time to gag the mouths of a lecherous entity west of the Bug?
    My opinion is to erase a cancerous tumor from the face of the Earth and after 10 years put everything under corn. laughing soldier
    1. Petergut
      Petergut 12 February 2014 10: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Apparently, fascism in Geyropa is inflamed with renewed vigor ... P ... we forgot who brought order in their time. Wouldn't it be time to gag the mouths of a lecherous entity west of the Bug?
      My opinion - to erase a cancerous tumor from the face of the Earth and after 10 years let everything under the corn. laughing soldier


      I suggest to put under the potatoes. smile
      1. Lk17619
        Lk17619 12 February 2014 12: 36 New
        0
        Quote: Petergut
        everything is under the corn.

        Quote: Petergut
        I suggest to put under the potatoes.
        and for both, potatoes for potato pancakes, and corn for silage, so that sour cream would be fatter later)))) laughing laughing
  4. Name
    Name 12 February 2014 08: 10 New
    +5
    The author of the "masterpiece" is Matthias Schepp (Matthias Schepp). He has been working in Moscow for a long time ...-and why he has not yet been attracted under the article 128 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Slander” and why the entrance to Russia has not been closed to this cozl ... and h.r.e. to lay down on all the screeches from the liberogeiropeans am
    1. Walk
      Walk 12 February 2014 10: 22 New
      +1
      It is better to sue for libel and put under house arrest before trial. And then it is already possible to deport.
  5. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 12 February 2014 08: 11 New
    +6
    The German journalist shamelessly mixed up everything that could be mixed up.
    He did not confuse anything; he did his corrupt work and received money for it.
    I don’t remember exactly who was interviewing Putin after 08.08.08, but he was giving an interview to a German and Germany didn’t see what Putin was saying at all.
    All this could be surprised, somewhere in the early 90s, and now more surprising are the truthful articles in the Western press, which are less and less every day.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 12 February 2014 08: 39 New
      +16
      Matisse Shepp:- I was born in 1964 in the city of Mainz, on the banks of the Rhine. Father is a worker, mother is a housewife. Despite the fact that my parents did not have much money, I ended up in a good Catholic school. Then there was a university in Mainz, and then in Dijon - in the center of France. When I was a teenager, I wanted to become a priest, teacher, or journalist. You would make a worthless priest, a worthless teacher, and as a result, a deceitful journal Gluga. It would be better if your mother at 1963 had an abortion than giving birth to this ha @ but.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 12 February 2014 08: 58 New
        +5
        Quote: Tersky
        I ended up in a good Catholic school.

        I wonder what he was taught at this school?
        Quote: Tersky
        When I was a teenager, I wanted to become a priest, teacher or journalist

        And he became a prostitute!
        Quote: Tersky
        It would be better if your mother had an abortion in 1963

        Mom thought he would become a man. Victorhi
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 12 February 2014 09: 11 New
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The German journalist shamelessly mixed up everything that could be mixed up.
      -------- let me disagree. I have a good deal of conjuncture here .......
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 12 February 2014 09: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: stroporez
        ------ let me disagree. I have a good deal of conjuncture here .....

        I allow, only this quote is taken by me from the article. Then I wrote..He didn’t mix anything up, he did his corrupt job and got paid for it hi
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 February 2014 09: 42 New
      +2
      Asgard AU, you write with what you disagree or you have no time yet, you run around my old comments and hard minus wassat
      PS Do not erase the finger laughing
  6. domokl
    domokl 12 February 2014 08: 12 New
    +3
    Well, the first long language will never reach Kiev ... And the officers of the Special Forces are not very talkative. And the second is true. You need to think with whom and what to talk about.
    But Spiegel ... There was, there is, and will be an ideological war. And do not forget about it. Specifically, under the article, you need to use the same weapons. Not just an article, but a court. Moreover, not veteran organizations should do this (they will help with lawyers , with finances 0, relatives of the people mentioned in the article should do this.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 12 February 2014 08: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: domokl
      . And do not forget about it. Specifically, according to the article, you need to beat with the same weapon. Not only an article, but a court.

      First of all, you need to lose accreditation, and drive in three necks from Russia. Alexander, hi !
      1. domokl
        domokl 12 February 2014 09: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Tersky
        First of all, you need to lose accreditation,

        And for what? Officially, we have no right to expel for the expression of our views. Although I would probably find something to dig into.
        But, on the other hand, he was completely shitting on himself. Which of the serious people after what he wrote would contact him? None .. Only liberals from Echo of Moscow and Rain ... And in the West they don’t just pay money. They will recall and send to some sort of Popua ...
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 12 February 2014 10: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: domokl
          And for what? Officially, we have no right to expel for the expression of our views.

          Alexander, this is far from the opinion of a single individual. This is a blatant, uncovered lie with the goal of discrediting Russia in the eyes of the western man in the street. For this at a time to plant.
          Quote: domokl
          They will recall and send to some sort of Popua ...

          This is where the road is for him, but at first the “excursion” to Kolyma would not hurt.
  7. morpogr
    morpogr 12 February 2014 08: 20 New
    0
    Matthias Shepp is a German magazine magazine.
    1. alone
      alone 12 February 2014 21: 27 New
      0
      Quote: morpogr
      Matthias Shepp is a German magazine magazine.


      today, 99% of journalists are. yes
  8. makarov
    makarov 12 February 2014 08: 24 New
    +4
    For some reason, the thought creeps in that the customers of the “revealing” material are by no means the first persons in Germany, but from a third country. And the “material” itself, in all likelihood, is a prelude to something more serious. As a matter of fact, the old PR technique, initially turned up, and then after the nth event, screaming loudly, they say we have already said something similar. Therefore, it cannot be ruled out that in the near future there will be some kind of loud “exposure” linked to the specialists of the Russian Federation, I do not exclude even the relationship with the events in Ukraine, and even more so for some reason I’m sure of it.
  9. predator.3
    predator.3 12 February 2014 08: 26 New
    +3
    In a word, the Brothers Grimm and other storytellers have a rest! fool
  10. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 12 February 2014 08: 28 New
    +2
    Matthias Schepp himself is a dog of the chain, but for insulting our specialists, fill your face! angry
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 12 February 2014 10: 35 New
      0
      chain dog -------- useful creature ...... do not offend doggies ........
  11. hz123
    hz123 12 February 2014 08: 30 New
    +3
    Enrages a lot, but let them write. A traditional tour of Europe is postponed, not canceled.
  12. Hs487
    Hs487 12 February 2014 08: 31 New
    +4
    Quote: domokl
    But Spiegel ... The ideological war was, is and will be. And do not forget about it.

    In general, the background of the article is elementary - the overseas owner of Germany embarrassed loudly. The journalist was given the command to urgently turn the arrows and divert attention from the owner who had sat down in a puddle. And here all means are good.
  13. VadimSt
    VadimSt 12 February 2014 08: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: invisible
    It’s a pity that journalism as a profession turns into collecting market rumors

    Most likely, in the "collection" of dough.
    There are many writers, but few journalists if there is no one to answer the article professionally. Isn’t enough material, didn’t the Alpha fighters cover up those who were leaving school in Beslan, or weren’t the Germans, during the Second World War, burned people alive, driving them to churches and houses.
  14. Duke
    Duke 12 February 2014 08: 34 New
    +4
    Information war in one word.
  15. Kapitan Oleg
    Kapitan Oleg 12 February 2014 08: 37 New
    +1
    Another vyser
  16. dark_65
    dark_65 12 February 2014 08: 42 New
    +1
    How did you get these unpunished journalistic mongrels, how much you can ... and you won’t even be able to do it, you won’t drag him to court.
    All that remains is the info war (unfortunately), I see no reason not to activate my information policy, all the same it’s not so expensive, but there is an effect.
    The same Shenderovich (wrote him a letter, let's look at the answer), well, is there really no way to bring to trial for libel? Are there lawyers who think?
  17. Tanysh
    Tanysh 12 February 2014 08: 50 New
    +3
    The question is long overdue, we just swallow it, and it's time to attract
    talkers to responsibility. After all, there are many of us, if everyone sues the talker for insulting honor and dignity, then all the "human rights activists" will remain in what the mother gave birth. For the "bazaar" will be followed. For one expression of Sobchak about "zamkadysh" you can demand from her even 100 rubles of moral damage, but to each resident beyond the Moscow Ring Road. Then, on no panel will she be able to work out this lawsuit
    1. alex-s
      alex-s 12 February 2014 11: 05 New
      0
      For one expression of Sobchak about "zamkadysh" you can demand from her even 100 rubles of moral damage, but to each resident beyond the Moscow Ring Road. Then, on no panel will she be able to work out this lawsuit

      I'm afraid on the panel for her demand will be sooooo low! laughing
  18. Arbatov
    Arbatov 12 February 2014 08: 52 New
    +5
    Veterans of the “Office” spent their whole lives “in the shadows”, it was impossible to shine before anyone, sometimes even relatives did not know about heroic everyday life. They quit, it was not forbidden to wear uniforms openly, to show awards, respectively, they decided that it was possible to give interviews. Yes it is impossible! You can’t give interviews to anyone, to be exact, to anyone who asks. State thinking has not been canceled!
    According to the mind, it should be the "office" itself (how many educational and scientific institutions it has!), Its veteran organizations, and also highly professional journalists engaged by the authorities to correctly collect the memories of specialists, without missing a single one! Then the heroes, including the inconspicuous heroes, like most, will not have the feeling that they are useless. I repeat, work with EVERY employee and veteran with experience in combat or special operations. What can be published in the open press under the patronage of the state. The magazine will be cleaner than "Brothers". What is impossible - in special literature or in archives. But state people cannot enjoy freedom of speech. Maybe, unfortunately, but not.
    PS I deeply respect the employees of Alpha and Pennant, with whom I was lucky to be acquainted.
  19. bomg.77
    bomg.77 12 February 2014 09: 07 New
    +2
    After Putin’s Munich speech, you don’t need to read the foreign press ........ The slam-shut crane was opened against Russia, which we saw immediately during the 08.08.08 conflict. Special Forces !!!! shared with a German journalist)))
  20. Krugov
    Krugov 12 February 2014 09: 16 New
    +2
    All the same, I believe that there should be people who, through "accidents", bring such goats to a normal state! And the location (and nationality with citizenship) of this evil should not matter! The order has fulfilled - the funds received will be enough for the funeral!
    1. LITHUANIA
      LITHUANIA 12 February 2014 09: 24 New
      +1
      I would not want to agree with you, but it’s evident that in some other way some people cannot be brought to life.
  21. dmb
    dmb 12 February 2014 09: 17 New
    0
    Well, about the fact that Shepp needs to be deprived of accreditation and the right to enter Russia, much has been said ... and it's useless. Nobody will do this, which is clearly not in favor of our government. However, even in his article you can find a rational kernel. This is me about the "protection" of Kadyrov. Ah, if it were true. As is Shepp's assessment of the current Alpha fighters in terms of their political orientation. And here, I'm afraid we will be disappointed. As for: “They hate America, NATO and“ all crazy liberals in Moscow. ”They have a low opinion of democracy, but they respect a strong ruler.” - This is true, but that they yearn for the Soviet past and are in opposition state-explicit bust. The system of psychological preparation of any special forces is aimed at subordinating to its boss. You can talk about how to complete the task, but the one who pays the money puts it. In this case, Putin pays them to Alpha, and therefore they serve him, or rather, those whose interests he represents. In general, the article is weak, reading it creates the feeling that the author makes excuses for this German shit.
  22. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 12 February 2014 09: 17 New
    0
    With his chernushny essay dedicated to the Olympic Games in Sochi, Mr. Shepp at the same time tried to set up the Russian government against the special forces community.

    That's where the games, power and special forces mixed up in a bunch, all in one sentence.
  23. oracul
    oracul 12 February 2014 09: 19 New
    0
    I can’t stop marveling at how much crap is among Western, and ours, too, journalists. This is the case when the simplicity and trust of our people is used by them to the fullest extent - to the detriment. Alas, the clash of good and evil at the first stage often turns against good. But our cause is just and the victory will still be ours. This is predetermined by the entire history of the development of mankind in spite of any of its zigzags.
  24. groin
    groin 12 February 2014 09: 25 New
    +1
    Matthias Shepp "Welcome to us" for the next batch of "necessary and truthful information." You will receive a "warm welcome" from the guys who have passed Afghanistan and hot spots. Do not forget diapers and more.
  25. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 12 February 2014 09: 26 New
    +1
    Zhurnalyuga, of course, a balabol and hardly anyone from the special forces drank vodka with him, but the question is, why did they need to communicate with this bug ??? There was no communication, one could bring him to court for fiction and slander.
  26. sinukvl
    sinukvl 12 February 2014 09: 37 New
    0
    Since the jackals are yapping, then we did everything right and are doing it, there would have been more such as the special forces Alpha and Pennant
  27. shark
    shark 12 February 2014 09: 44 New
    0
    The further I observe all these European hights, the more I become convinced, unfortunately, fear for relatives and sorrows, apparently the last war is just around the corner .. They will not leave us alone. Or we them, which is unlikely so far. Either they us.And I can’t live with their values ​​...
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 12 February 2014 10: 20 New
      +1
      What can we say about Western journalists. If one of our "mouthpieces" of freedom is Politkovskaya, in an interview with a Western channel she stated that after the assault on the theater center, Alfa was looting, and looted the entire bar, and immediately began to drink. Another fact, in December 1999 rested in the Voronovo boarding house near Moscow, veterans and Alpha fighters arrived there, celebrated the 20th anniversary of the assault on Amin’s palace. Among the guests there was a legend, Ilya Grigoryevich Starinov, a smiling, kind man, when I saw him, I already took my breath away! Everyone was interested in how it was here with fishing. On the same day, boxers from Podolsk drove into the boarding house, organized sportiness, or, more simply, bandits, well, as usual, we would part the clouds with our arms, legs, money. Apparently the guys from Alpha had a lot of patience, I didn’t understand anything, a few sudden movements, and the boxers are swimming in the pool, as everyone knows the substance. After a few hours, they urgently gathered and washed off.
      1. Yuri Sev Caucasus
        Yuri Sev Caucasus 12 February 2014 12: 16 New
        +1
        he is a pro under any circumstances!
  28. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 12 February 2014 10: 09 New
    +2
    The truth is simple - the more our “specialists” are blundered, the more people realize that the specialists are great and faithful Russian experience. Conclusion: urgently activate the work of our counter-propaganda services both domestically and abroad, amend the law on the press in terms of slander , deportation without the right to return to the Russian Federation, in any quality.
  29. Vasia kruger
    Vasia kruger 12 February 2014 10: 26 New
    +1
    The dog barks, the caravan goes.

    The phrase about a special gesture like "Kvachkov and Hodor in the same cell" is a masterpiece ... insanity.
    The German article is ordinary propaganda, but low-quality, cheap.
  30. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 12 February 2014 10: 58 New
    0
    Next in the goat’s line from the State Department, it’s a pity that the line wasn’t for the massacre - UNTIL ...
  31. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 12 February 2014 10: 59 New
    +1
    While reading that this German durik heralded 2 thoughts flickered:
    1) In what nonsense did he write, alcoholic or narcotic?
    2) It’s a pity the tank will not be allowed to cross the border ... Now I will definitely come to Berlin in May 2015 to mark May 9th.
  32. vorobey
    vorobey 12 February 2014 11: 47 New
    +5
    Being a cadet of the Tashkent Tank School I had a chance to communicate closely with our teachers

    Colonel Abdulaev (sinful forgot the name middle name but the faces of these people are still in memory)
    Colonel Rashidov in 79 commanded a company and platoon in the Muslim battalion. and directly participated in the storming of Amin’s palace.

    They told a lot of interesting things then and taught us a lot of green jerks.

    Already in '96, I myself was selected in the direction of A, after Budenovsk and Komsomolsky, specialists in armored vehicles were needed. So I didn’t even go through the medical board with the wording - PSYCH SHIPPED (exaggerating) was eliminated. But the guys with whom I talked there and who have passed communicate so far.

    From these guys cast armor.

    And all these similar essays of publishing dirt are nothing but envy. Yes, colleagues are banal envy.
    In our country, after all, the boys are rushing to special forces just by conviction, but in the west?

    In place of the guys from A, I would invite me to my place (you can finally bring me to my house) and gave me the opportunity to live and enjoy my life and atmosphere.

    What a sense of fear escalates the feeling of unknownness when a person expects pain and humiliation constantly and they communicate with him humanly, eat at the same table, and they give loads, like everyone else.
    Intersno after that what libel he will write.
  33. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 12 February 2014 13: 02 New
    +1
    <<< By the way, especially for you, Mr. Shepp, I inform you: the staff of our headquarters, studying the Internet after the events on Dubrovka, made a selection of speeches by anti-terror experts from Western countries - SAS, GIGN, Cobra, Delta, and Israelis, who appreciated the special operation positively. And who are you? Specialist or what? >>>
    Mr. Shepp is a specialist! Only in another area! Having spit on decency, to pervert, slander, slander everything that concerns Russia, to hang noodles on the ears of society - this is its specialization! He is the SUCKING DOG of the western gaming democracy and he is paid for it precisely for that: for the malicious yapping at the command from the European gate! And there is such a team today! I really want the West .. to rob the universally recognized outstanding achievement of Russia in organizing the Olympic Games in Sochi!
  34. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 12 February 2014 13: 13 New
    0
    In an interview with SPIEGEL correspondent Uwe Klussmann, Saakashvili called the advance of his troops on Tskhinvali a kind of preventive strike, how can you think of something good about the head of the German bureau weekly Der Spiegel Matthias Schepp, pathetic liar, in his next libel I’m trying to mess up the memory and affairs of people who do not spare their lives for the sake of others, comrades, I think it is necessary for everyone who is somehow messed up in his newspaper to sue for the protection of honor and dignity, and based on the court cases, I hope that deprivation will follow accreditation of this "general man" in Russia, let him write the essays "How to survive in the slums of Berlin" among Afronemians.
  35. srha
    srha 12 February 2014 13: 17 New
    0
    Is it weak to establish an international fund for assessing the rating of objectivity-venality of journalists and the media? Well, publish ...
  36. silver_roman
    silver_roman 12 February 2014 14: 03 New
    0
    close this tv * ri entry to Russia. such 3.14 daras do not even believe their own.

    I congratulate our specialists from "A" on the anniversary.
    I will not wish courage, courage and perseverance, because such People have plenty of them. Just more health, peaceful days and ordinary human happiness! Thanks you!!! hi
  37. Mstislav
    Mstislav 12 February 2014 14: 18 New
    +1
    About the "Nord Ost." About the special forces on the roof, a clown by the name of tsekalo (who sang with a castor) sang live on TV on TV.
  38. konvalval
    konvalval 12 February 2014 14: 25 New
    +1
    Those bloody dogs of the "independent" Western mass media were stunned by all sorts of whispers ... py. Anger is not enough to read this nonsense.
    “Alpha” and other special forces congratulations. Keep it up.
  39. Volkhov
    Volkhov 12 February 2014 15: 13 New
    -1
    As for the heading of the German article - you just need to share the truth and the lie in the theses expressed and immediately you will see the incorrectness of the Western scribbler ...
    The Kremlin ones are not quite, many of those who served the Kremlin switched to serve in new states at their place of residence, in bandits, in mercenaries ... that is, where it is more profitable.
    Bloody - do not take away ... 91 - the extermination of statesmen, 93 - the extermination of patriots, many strange and fake terrorist attacks only in Moscow, now the Odintsovo gang is on trial - and there the special forces were present, as in most other gangs.
    Dogs - does not match, because the dog does not change its orientation and does not bite its own, these are the only creatures that can be trusted, unlike people who are recruited by anyone at all times - security officers, bandits ... it's more like rats that they broke their psyche and made cannibals - they eat their own and normal animals leave them so as not to get dirty.
    So the paid Western journalist writes half the truth, which is worse than a lie.
  40. Naum
    Naum 12 February 2014 17: 43 New
    0
    All in the spirit of Goebbels: the more incredible a lie, the faster they will believe in it! It has long been clear to gay people that in Russia this is not possible! What are the bears with balalaikas on Red Square ...
  41. Cynic
    Cynic 12 February 2014 20: 21 New
    0
    And why are we so amicably surprised at this husky howl?
    What nobody knows the phrase _ Bloody Gebnya?
    And here we are surprised at the German, you can certainly understand our liberals, but for now German, what to worry?