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Rear Admiral Apanasenko died in hospital after attempting suicide

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Rear Admiral Apanasenko died in hospital after attempting suicideMonday morning, without regaining consciousness, Rear Admiral Vyacheslav Apanasenko died, reports FlashNord agency referring to the rank of 1 captain, secretary of the organization of the “Commonwealth of Veterans of Gadzhievo submariners” Yuri Travkin.
"Vyacheslav Mikhailovich left us today at 10 in the morning," Travkin said. According to him, the date of the funeral has not yet been determined, but the place of burial is already known - this is the Troekurovskoye cemetery in Moscow.
As reported, Vyacheslav Apanasenko February 7 attempted suicide by shooting himself in the head with a pistol. In serious condition, he was taken to hospital. For four days the admiral was in a coma.
His daughter Ekaterina Lokshina in an interview with Ekho Moskvy earlier told about the reasons for her father’s actions: “My father did it not for himself, and not because he could not continue to cope with this severe pain (Apanasenko was diagnosed with cancer). He did it for his relatives, because it was difficult for him to observe how difficult it was for his relatives to take care of the drug supply. In particular, in order to receive pain medication, he had to spend many hours in the clinic. And the day before his death, his mother once again failed to get The rfin, prescribed for him, because literally one signature was missing. And when she came home in a very depressed state, apparently, that was the last straw. "
On her Facebook page, she quoted Apanasenko’s suicide note: “I’m not to blame anyone except the Ministry of Health and the government. I’m ready to suffer, but to see the suffering of my family and friends is intolerable.”
The tragedy occurred on the admiral's 67 year. Vyacheslav Apanasenko, prior to his transfer to the reserve, headed the department of rocket and artillery weapons of the Navy. He was an expert in ballistic missile submarines. The Rear Admiral has repeatedly criticized the current state of the defense industry in the Russian Federation. After retiring to the reserve, Apanasenko headed the "Commonwealth of Veterans of the Submariners Gadzhiyevo".
In 2012, Vyacheslav Apanasenko, being the head of the “Commonwealth of submariners Gadzhievo veterans”, intended to come to Gadzhiyevo, where he served for many years, to participate in the celebrations marking the 55 anniversary of the submariners' garrison. Shortly before the round date, the rear admiral was made a terrible diagnosis and an operation was scheduled. But even in such a difficult period of life, Apanasenko did not cease to be interested in the fate of Gadzhievo, often called the garrison, maintained a close relationship with the leadership of the closed city and command, notes SeverPost.ru.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 11 February 2014 07: 22
    +45
    "I ask you not to blame anyone, except the Ministry of Health and the government. I myself am ready to suffer, but to see the suffering of my family and friends is intolerable."
    OFFICER AND MAN ... condolences to relatives and friends ... soldier
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 07: 48
      .
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      except the Ministry of Health and the government.

      But the Ministry of Health and the government have to do with it? Abdulov in the fight against cancer did not help not money is not the best medical care in Israel.
      With regards to Morphine, it is sold with us in any pharmacy and is issued according to a doctor’s prescription, even at home, all with one signature.
      1. afire
        afire 11 February 2014 07: 54
        +2
        morphine ?? at the pharmacy ?? Well, it’s like drugs ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 08: 10
          0
          Quote: afire
          morphine ?? at the pharmacy ?? Well, it’s like drugs ...

          Dear, I bought it myself because I say it. It is in the pharmacy that they are sold, but of course under strict reporting. The list of those in category A is not small, so hi Ephedrine is pure by prescription, although generally pure water is a drug.
          1. anton 42
            anton 42 11 February 2014 18: 23
            +2
            I will support Alesandra when my father fell ill, he was immediately prescribed all the necessary prescriptions for painkillers such as morphine and tram, I extended these prescriptions to a doctor, he was observed at a doctor, and that doctor decided what to prescribe, stronger or how he did the injections. But the moment comes when they stop helping, very hard. Sachyuvstvu Relatives. psekho Moscow stopped listening in August 8th.
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 11 February 2014 08: 01
        +4
        Where is the information about medical care in Israel? request but they said about morphine because of the bureaucracy they couldn’t get ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 08: 12
          0
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Where is the information about medical care in Israel?

          As an example, sometimes no one can help people, even in the best hospitals in the world.
          1. haron
            haron 11 February 2014 08: 27
            +15
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            sometimes no one can help people. Even in the best hospitals in the world.

            They can always help by relieving this pain. And the Ministry of Health could also help by removing this delusional super responsibility for extracting opiates. It’s easier to buy heroin for an addict on the streets than an anesthetic for an ill patient.
            Go to fentonil patches, they won’t be able to get stuck from them, send the brigade to the house ... build centers (cancer prevention has not been canceled yet), but you never know what has been invented in the world for a long time so that people don’t shoot.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 08: 39
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              Quote: haron
              And the Ministry of Health would also be able to help by removing this delusional superresponsibility for writing out opiates

              Morphine is a drug, but buying it with a prescription is not a problem!
              1. Svetlana
                Svetlana 11 February 2014 09: 22
                +9
                In Moscow, morphine is not for sale, it can only be obtained by prescription for a cancer patient for free, and a prescription is only given if the drug is actually available in a particular pharmacy. This is a very complex bureaucratic scheme from which patients who cannot live without pain medications suffer.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 09: 35
                  -7
                  Quote: Svetlana
                  Morphine is not for sale in Moscow, it can only be obtained by prescription for a cancer patient for free

                  Familiar handwriting, with the reincarnation of the Valkyrie.
                  Quote: Svetlana
                  In Moscow, morphine is not for sale, it can only be obtained by prescription for a cancer patient for free, and a prescription is only given if the drug is actually available in a particular pharmacy

                  Morphine is prescribed not only for cancer patients, so do not whistle.
              2. velikoros-xnumx
                velikoros-xnumx 11 February 2014 09: 54
                +6
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Morphine is a drug, but buying it with a prescription is not a problem!

                nothing like this. His wife, a pharmacist plus, themselves faced this when at the last stage of cancer they bought tramadol (I may be mistaken in spelling) from a group of morphines at a dying father-in-law. There were several signatures in the recipe, though they got them pretty quickly. Used ampoules for change. In ordinary pharmacies, morphine is not sold, only in those that are allowed leave on prescriptions from list A (mostly municipal, in a half-million city with hundreds of pharmacies in only 3 places)
            2. Alex_Popovson
              Alex_Popovson 11 February 2014 08: 49
              +3
              removing this crazy super responsibility for opiate discharge

              Incidentally, from a regular continent, hydrochloride or promedol, to boil such a bomb that the arrival of five or six days is enough.
              cancer has not been canceled yet

              What ??? In the world, apart from the search for tumor markers, there is no other prevention.
              1. haron
                haron 11 February 2014 09: 23
                +3
                Quote: Alex_Popovson
                In the world, apart from the search for tumor markers, there is no other prevention.

                Really.
                From forgotten annual preventive chest x-rays to genetic studies with increased hereditary risk. In this range, there are dozens of general and specific control methods requiring an available base: specialists, equipment, laboratory.

                Yes, at least the tumor markers indicated by you - but once a year.
                What percentage of men go to the urologist annually, and women to the gynecologist? I think no more than 5% (optimistic). Who and when has written here donated blood on the PSA?
                Yes, a common blood test who did when and when?
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 09: 30
                  -7
                  Quote: haron
                  Starting from forgotten annual preventive chest x-rays

                  You will not reveal the diagnosis by a X-ray.
                  Quote: haron
                  before genetic research

                  This is how cancer treatment relates? There, in the USA, she cut off her own tits, genetics showed that he could be. Will we cut all the women?
                  Quote: haron
                  In this range, there are dozens of general and specific control methods requiring an available base: specialists, equipment, laboratory.

                  Friske-money rampart, the best diagnosis and doctors are available, but this did not save the cancer from the diagnosis.
                  Quote: haron
                  What percentage of men go to the urologist annually, and women to the gynecologist? I think no more than 5%

                  You are greatly mistaken, a trip to women at the genecologist is often even connected with work. They simply send and even women over 40 go to the geneticist at least once a year.
                  Quote: haron
                  Yes, a common blood test who did when and when?

                  Well, what next? Now any trip to the clinic begins with blood donation. You are probably too young, otherwise you would know more.
                  1. haron
                    haron 11 February 2014 09: 46
                    +5
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    You will not reveal the diagnosis by a X-ray.

                    The first thing I remembered was an increase in the basal lymph nodes of the lung, central lung cancer, metastasis of tumors of connective tissue origin and glandular tumors ... there are many more. Depends on the quality of the picture.
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    This is how cancer treatment relates?

                    As well as the work of politicians to prevent the outbreak of war. Remember how Gorchakov overshadowed the results of the Crimean War. In medicine, this is called prevention.
                    But cutting boobs is not necessary. Genetic analysis is performed on a buccal epithelium (smear from the oral cavity). Once risk genes are identified, tighter control is required.
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    you are probably too young, otherwise you would know more.

                    Maybe. Learning is never too late. I always tell my students - the textbook on propaedeutics is yours until the end of life. wink
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                    2. haron
                      haron 11 February 2014 09: 59
                      +1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Well, what next? Now any trip to the clinic begins with blood donation

                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      You are greatly mistaken, a trip to women at the genecologist is often even connected with work. They simply send and even women over 40 go to the geneticist at least once a year.

                      Maybe you're right.
                      My opinion is based on the "testimonies" of hundreds of patients coming to the Czech Republic for treatment. Naturally, this is not the entire population of the Russian Federation.
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 10: 26
                        -1
                        Quote: haron
                        My opinion is based on the "indications" of hundreds of patients coming to the Czech Republic for treatment.

                        Hmm, well, not many in Russia can afford treatment in the Czech Republic. I write in my city request
                      2. haron
                        haron 11 February 2014 11: 38
                        +3
                        not many - that's for sure. Currently, there are only two patients from Blagoveshchensk and Sakhalin from your region. According to them, many patients travel to Korea, really closer and better than in Moscow.

                        Unfortunately in Russia, with the presence of not bad doctors, an integrated approach is completely absent. This is when the whole chain from the local doctor, nurse, nurse and until discharge from the specialized clinic works like a clock. When you don’t need to beg the sister to make an enema and the doctor should carry out the operation that is indicated in this situation, when the heads of the doctor should not doubt the decision of the ordinary doctor and sign the prescription for an opiate without hesitation.
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                2. Luzhichanin
                  Luzhichanin 11 February 2014 13: 44
                  +3
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  You will not reveal the diagnosis by a X-ray.
                  lol
                  Hmm ... as far as I remember, they make diagnoses ... including on the basis of analyzes obtained using equipment such as x-ray.
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            3. Asgard
              Asgard 11 February 2014 09: 46
              +9
              Quote: Alex_Popovson
              By the way, from the usual continent, hydrochloride or promedol ////
              Everything really can be done by ourselves (it's true) you just need to know HOW ???
              Admiral honored man-state must break into a cake to help ...... EVERYONE !!!!!
              Well, to the Gods, please accept a Worthy Man not as accepted, but with Respect for the decision !!!
              Quote: Alex_Popovson
              What ??? In the world, apart from the search for tumor markers, there is no other prevention.

              I will give out military secrets)))
              Twice a day 200g. a glass of water with dissolved 10g (teaspoon)) SODA taken on an empty stomach half an hour before meals - the risk of cancer will be reduced to 0 (zero))
              And even if a person already has Cancer, then a constant intake of soda can destroy cancer cells .... cancer develops in an acidified body, and soda restores normal alkaline pH //// BLOOD
              + there is still a miracle cure))))
              3% hydrogen peroxide solution, added 15 drops per glass structure the water and it is instantly absorbed by living cells (restores immunity)), if instilled into the nose (in the morning)) - you will never get the flu (even in the midst of an epidemic))

              In general, lectures by Professor Neumyvakin to help you, this uncle is engaged in astronauts.
              Well, in general, all the diseases in my head, from consciousness and the ability to stop thoughts.
              Well, THIS is already very difficult ... while soda and peroxide))))
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 10: 02
                -3
                Quote: Asgard
                Twice a day 200g. a glass of water with dissolved 10g (teaspoon)) SODA taken on an empty stomach half an hour before meals - the risk of cancer will be reduced to 0 (zero))

                It’s mine, the best minds are struggling in search of a cure for cancer, but here it’s so simple.
                Asgard, why is the Nobel not yours yet?
                Quote: Asgard
                And even if a person already has Cancer, the constant intake of soda can destroy cancer cells ..

                Rather lead to a stomach ulcer laughing
                Quote: Asgard
                if you dig in your nose (in the morning)) - you will never get the flu (even in the midst of an epidemic))

                No, there are already two Nobel’s lol
                1. Svetlana
                  Svetlana 11 February 2014 11: 50
                  +1
                  All ingenious is simple.
                2. Andrey57
                  Andrey57 11 February 2014 12: 20
                  +8
                  It’s mine, the best minds are struggling in search of a cure for cancer, but here it’s so simple.


                  And why did you decide that these very best minds are "beating"? Pharmaceutical companies do not have a task to cure all patients, they have a task to cure!
                  As an example, the sad fate of the developer of a resonant method of treating diseases, this American proved the viral nature of cancer and developed a treatment method based on the fact that every virus, like any other pathogen, has a resonant frequency in an electromagnetic field, and he successfully cured cancer even in the 4 stage exactly in 90 days, moreover, 100% result, none of those who underwent a course with him died. And not just cancer. So, the three leading pharmaceutical companies hired lawyers through dummies and obtained a court decision, according to which this poor fellow was not only forbidden to treat, although he had a medical education and license, but was also forbidden to do research, as well as to come closer to 100 to any research laboratory, then the author of the discovery was found dead, officially - suicide. It was in 1956 year, this scandal got out after 25 years.
                  We are also doing this, moreover, very successfully, only here, for every program of resonant frequencies for the treatment of a particular disease, the Ministry of Health forces us to test 5 for years, which does not require any other treatment methods, except for this, you will not find references in the media anywhere , although the licenses from the Ministry of Health for the treatment of diseases in these developers are close to a hundred. In this case, do not need any chemicals.
                  As for Professor Neumyvaykin, there is a similar vacuum around his methods, because they do not require a person to take their entire salary to a pharmacy, at the same time, all these methods are silently used in astronautics, without noise and advertising - one of the options for double standards.
                  1. Svetlana
                    Svetlana 11 February 2014 13: 50
                    0
                    I heard from people who are looking for unconventional methods of dealing with their diseases that Grabovoi has a method of healing from a huge number of different diseases. These methods allow you to recover simply for free to those who own them. The introduction of such methods in official medicine will lead to the massive ruin of medical clinics and pharmaceutical companies around the world. The fate of such people usually ends very badly.
                  2. Luzhichanin
                    Luzhichanin 11 February 2014 13: 52
                    +1
                    Quote: Andrey57
                    although the licenses from the Ministry of Health for the treatment of diseases in these developers are close to a hundred

                    and can you throw off the link to these developers? interesting to read. since the universe carries the wave part, the effect on the frequency principle itself is undeniable ... both in the positive sense and in the negative.
                    nothing in vain that the microwave, wai-fay, etc., irradiate with crap!
                3. Heccrbq.3
                  Heccrbq.3 12 February 2014 09: 56
                  +1
                  As you want to meet with you in a remote place and talk like a man with a man, you are a complete zero.
              2. Mista_dj
                Mista_dj 11 February 2014 15: 47
                +2
                Good day.
                The exceptional fact that we are not personally acquainted makes me choose expressions carefully.
                Therefore, I will limit myself to the following: you, absolutely do not understand what you wrote about.
                Your arguments are anti-scientific, do not have any substantiated basis, and cannot be applied in therapeutic; surgical and / or rehabilitation practice.
                1. Asgard
                  Asgard 11 February 2014 19: 55
                  +2
                  This Dmitry is not my argument. There is such a professor Neumyvakin, the star in medicine)) these are his conclusions ...

                  Now. about the fact that I do not understand .....
                  I have special training, I can increase the pressure with a solution of water and sugar with massive blood loss ...
                  You know that 90% of any pill is sodium bicarbonate (baking soda))
                  You know that hydrogen peroxide, I buried myself and my children in the nose with a cold, flu and for prevention ...
                  The elder got a medical card when he passed the army medical examination in grade 10 ...
                  And the youngest, at 11 years old, when he fell off his motorcycle and injured his leg ...
                  On this, our communication with doctors was limited .... and both of them have not a single vaccination ....

                  Every word that I write carries ENERGY, if you "judge" a person, then unrighteous judgments will return to you with diseases ...
                  And here neither soda, nor peroxide, will be powerless ....
                  By the way, I mentioned the main cause of sore brains, mouth and a few fingers on the keyboard)))))

                  It does not defile man that He consumes ... BUT WHAT IS OUT OF MOUTH))))) So the Gods wrote in book-books ....

                  I would be thoughtful in your place and begged the mods to delete your koment. I don’t put a minus. Life will set it for you. It's a pity we could live happily)))))
                  1. Mista_dj
                    Mista_dj 12 February 2014 00: 56
                    +1
                    Did you happen to learn from Kashpirovsky?
                    Listen carefully to what I advise you:
                    instead of writing about the energy filling your every word, you would turn better to a good psychiatrist.
                    Do not spare money for this, the case is launched of course, but psychiatry sometimes works miracles. And it is likely that oral soda and an enema with peroxide will clarify your confused mind.
                    Who knows, what if your clinical case goes down in history !?
                    The main thing is not to spare money, because it is said: "loot will win evil."
                    I will blacklist you (in order to prevent schizophrenia), so as not to read your nonsense in the future. What if this is not the only topic where you "preach"?
                    Get right!
                  2. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 12 February 2014 06: 33
                    0
                    Quote: Asgard
                    I have special training, I can use a solution of water and sugar

                    A solution of water and sugar will make the person an idiot for a while, and I already read about your special training, especially about shooting in sectors. I’ll give your comments on neighing and reading Verbor, he is special from the GRU.
                    Quote: Asgard
                    Every word that I write carries ENERGY

                    Well, everything is clear here, the cases are of course curious, but not an isolated one in our time.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 12 February 2014 07: 37
                      0

                      Quote: Asgard
                      Every word that I write carries ENERGY

                      it seemed wassat
                    2. Mista_dj
                      Mista_dj 12 February 2014 11: 11
                      +1
                      Alas, Alexander!
                      It didn’t seem to you, a direct analogy!
                      lol
                2. atalef
                  atalef 12 February 2014 07: 47
                  0
                  Asgard (2) Yesterday, 19:55 p.m. ↑

                  I have special training, I can increase the pressure with a solution of water and sugar with massive blood loss.

                  Every word that I write carries ENERGY, if you "judge" a person, then unrighteous judgments will return to you with diseases

                  specially for you the book is written
                3. atalef
                  atalef 12 February 2014 08: 53
                  0
                  Quote: Asgard
                  Now. about the fact that I do not understand .....
                  I have special training, I can increase the pressure with a solution of water and sugar with massive blood loss ...
                  You know that 90% of any pill is sodium bicarbonate (baking soda))

                  Well, as I understand it, your special training consists in inattentively watching the movie * Sniper *, you didn’t even notice how the protagonist, making himself an infusion from a mixture of marinade and sugar, did not raise his blood pressure (which looks just silly), but simply injected liquid into the body to restore balance with blood loss.
                  For a long time over your special divan preparation (starting from shooting at sectors and ending in special knowledge of a MAN — that is, exclusively from you), all people who understand a little bit laugh, but nothing, a regular clown is needed everywhere - keep making people laugh. Computer commando.
                  1. Asgard
                    Asgard 12 February 2014 15: 25
                    +2
                    I haven't watched Hollywood films for ten years, I haven't seen the movie "Sniper", I don't know many Hollywood actors and the nonsense that you are repeating here ... For what, my kids call me dense)))

                    Well, your written lines, what can we answer .... Let's take the Children-Those say-who calls themselves names-who is called that ... The Russian People also have a saying-if you want to know the "humanoid" ask what he thinks about .. .Asgard)))))

                    You are sick People, your anger will strike you. Learn to notice the nuances that exist in the world. People are cooler than Vas-Asy called, but you take pictures of me for your books)))))

                    Sorry Alexander more comments I WILL NOT BE ABSOLUTELY HAPPY PEOPLE .... YES AND TO YOUR SANITARY VISITORS ARE READY TO RELAX)))))
        2. aviamed90
          aviamed90 11 February 2014 16: 11
          +2
          haron

          You see, since Apanasenko had the rank of rear admiral, he had the right to medical assistance in medical institutions of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (polyclinics and hospitals).

          The question arises: were they really unable to help him, Rear Admiral, even with drugs?
          I doubt that in Moscow there is a problem with the medical care of military personnel in medical institutions of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Such a problem is observed outside the Arbat military district, but not in Moscow.
          Or am I wrong?

          Further. Why was he in the intensive care unit of the First Town Hospital, and not in the intensive care unit, for example, of the Main Military Clinical Hospital named after Burdenko or 3-th military clinical hospital named after Vishnevsky?
          Could not transport?

          And I consider the reason for suicide to be insufficient.
          Maybe this is the "official reason"? Is it something else entirely?

          In general, all this is strange.
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    2. Denis
      Denis 11 February 2014 08: 21
      +1
      they said about morphine because of the bureaucracy they couldn’t get ...
      The bureaucrats, of course, are still those ... only when morphine is being prescribed neither medetsin nor the government will be able to help
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 11 February 2014 08: 48
        +4
        Quote: Denis
        only when morphine is already prescribed neither medetsin nor the government can help

        What does it have to do with it? When a loved one is tormented, you yourself will go crazy.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 08: 53
        -1
        Quote: Denis
        .., only when morphine is already prescribed neither medetsin nor the government will be able to help

        Morphine is not only prescribed for cancer.
  2. mirag2
    mirag2 11 February 2014 08: 06
    +8
    I don’t know, but I’m sure for sure that cancer doesn’t have enough painkillers (how can one doom a person to such pains?) - and nowadays more than one person writes prescriptions for drugs, but they are certified in a different place with a bunch of seals, and the same canoe with free ones .
    In the Ministry of Health, bribery, bureaucracy and other "tricks" are almost in the order of things.
    Only very few doctors work on their advice (and young people, well, here I know why, whether Veresaev, or Chekhov, or Bulgakov, one of the writers of doctors raised this topic).
    And there are only a few problems where the headstock-medicine, housing and communal services and culture also disappear.
    They never have enough money, they do not understand what is spent on them, and their salaries are always low.
    But VERY much depends on local leadership.
    When there are people like the governor of the Perm Territory, Chirkunov, who worked there for himself, stuffing moshna, and then pulled off old age to live in the vineyards.
    And the standard of living there is not so hot ... He was thinking all the time how he would tie up "work" and pull off. He alienated money from the population, to the vineyard!
    What kind of drug supply can be discussed here!
    What, he saved for cancer patients saved from the construction of the lave road?
    Horseradish!
    1. dark_65
      dark_65 11 February 2014 08: 24
      +3
      Chirkunov is not the only one (unfortunately) in Voronezh.
      1. demel2
        demel2 11 February 2014 10: 11
        +1
        Across the country, the same thing, to the question of where does the government.
    2. Walk
      Walk 11 February 2014 09: 37
      +1
      I don’t know, but I’m sure for sure
      Excuse me, how? How can one be sure without knowing? As for the oncology centers, I can say for sure (my friends work in my local community) that the salaries there are quite decent and there are no problems with medicines. At least like morphine. Elderly people from villages lie, and everything is for them. Maybe in the capitals with this problem? I do not know.
    3. PValery53
      PValery53 11 February 2014 18: 49
      0
      Have you tried to shoot this very Chirkunov? - You know, it "helps" a lot with debt default ...
  3. Shurale
    Shurale 11 February 2014 08: 19
    +1
    My uncle recently died of cancer, also morphine was constantly injected, there were no problems with the acquisition, only the problem was with the quality, it was enough for an hour. And his uncle constantly asked that they help him leave, there wasn’t enough prescription morphine, not enough. The officer was lucky that he had a gun, my uncle didn’t.
  4. dark_65
    dark_65 11 February 2014 08: 23
    +3
    What does it mean? Oncology is supposedly free, my father has cancer and hepatitis (28 years old in boots, an officer is a veteran), the first operation for 100 tr, the second 35, chemistry 50, there are no drugs .... and try not to give. ..
    Everyone knows, everyone understands, will you swing rights in such a situation? ...
    Now a new course of treatment .. so far voiced about 15 ..
    There is no real medicine, or you won’t get it without money.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 08: 25
      -6
      Quote: dark_65
      There is no real medicine

      This is about morphine.
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      2. bairat
        bairat 11 February 2014 09: 21
        +5
        Mr. Romanov removes uncomfortable comments? star resource. You either argue on an equal footing or do not get into a conversation at all, but engage in pure moderation.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 09: 40
          0
          Quote: bairat
          Mr. Romanov removes uncomfortable comments?

          No, I’m not deleting, just ZAM is a separate category to which it does not reach humanly.
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      4. military
        military 11 February 2014 16: 09
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This is about morphine.

        here’s even how? ... and I, sinfully, thought that it was a matter of bringing the retired rear admiral to suicide ... even if he was a person who was obviously doomed to death ...
    2. Walk
      Walk 11 February 2014 09: 47
      +2
      I have a feeling that we live in different countries. My aunt had advanced breast cancer. Lives in the village, so pulled to the last. And the operation and chemistry afterwards were completely free. The only gripe about the hospital was that they didn’t have any food. And the medicine is all free.
      1. haron
        haron 11 February 2014 10: 04
        +1
        Quote: Walk
        I have a feeling that we live in different countries.

        Unfortunately you are right. The difference in approaches is palpable even at the FAP level, not to mention the regional clinics. Sverdlovsk’s medicine differs from N. Tagil’s medicine in quality strikingly, like the 21st century from the 19th.
  5. SPLV
    SPLV 11 February 2014 09: 10
    +4
    How many years have passed since your last purchase? Now you can't even buy antidepressants - doctors do not give prescriptions for at least six months on orders from above, today only antibiotics can be bought and drugs with strange names such as "imudin" and "hrenotin". What prescription morphine are you talking about? Why mislead people without having information?
  6. aksakal
    aksakal 11 February 2014 09: 19
    +9
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    With regards to Morphine, it is sold with us in any pharmacy and is issued according to a doctor’s prescription, even at home, all with one signature.
    - it is possible that the deceased (imandy bolsyn, the land will rest in peace to him!), as in that song, "no stake, no yard, someone will say in reproach!", did not make anything, only served with faith and truth. And for him free morphine to ease the suffering of the state, to which the deceased served faithfully, healed because of one signature?
    And again, at the risk of incurring the wrath of the members of the forum, I nevertheless - I will postulate: with all the patriotism and love for our state, we begin this state quietly (maybe not quietly, but persistently and firmly) to accustom us to love and respect for our own citizens. Enough already - first sending you to Chernobyl (options - Afghanistan, Chechnya), and then the same state, personified in the person of a specific bureaucracy, begins to excuse "I did not send you to Chernobyl (options - Afghanistan, Chechnya)!" In general, such things should not be channeled! Even here is a blatant story - Poland decided to throw Russia on vodka, put up a historical study that vodka was first mentioned in 15 ... some year at a feast with a Polish voivode, and now prove that vodka is a Russian drink! It smelled like the loss of many, many lards, only one Russian historian could help (I don't remember his last name) - he did. Free, out of patriotism. Upon retirement on a beggarly pension, he asked for help from the state. Ignore. Then he asked for more. Already unsubscribe. Then he reminded of the lards he brought in his beak to his native state - and from somewhere came a killer who ruthlessly killed a defenseless pensioner. Was it a pity to put him a pension of 20 thousand for the lard? I blame the state for this from the formula: "Seek who benefits." Also, a KGB officer died in need, who, with the help of a special operation, managed to beat the Italian loan for the construction of Avtovaz in Togliatti from 8,5 to 6,5% per annum - in terms of credit lards there is a very round amount in those dollars that were truly valued ...
    It's the same here - well, once a dose of morphine, but when you need a lot of these doses of morphine every day - and cancer is such a disease, the pain is really hellish, even the admiral's pension will not stand it. Didn't the submarine ballistic missile expert deserve even a decent and relatively painless death? Was it really a pity for the unfortunate nth amount of despicable morphine per person who faithfully served the state? I want a public response on this issue, I want a debriefing and I want to know the "hero" that his signature is out of "considerations of state interests, in order to save public funds during the economic crisis on these patients, that they get sick at the wrong time and yet strive to root for state expense "DO NOT DELIVER. The name of this bureaucrat.
    1. dark_65
      dark_65 11 February 2014 09: 54
      +1
      about Pohmelkina speech?
      1. SPLV
        SPLV 12 February 2014 21: 19
        0
        Sorry, but the name of this outstanding person Pokhlebkin. This is both the historian and the author of many cookbooks, who absurdly died in the crazy 90.
  7. Ihrek
    Ihrek 11 February 2014 09: 59
    +4
    We must understand that the words of such a person and in this state deserve respect. Moreover, he was a step away from death, which he clearly realized, and yet these words were one of the last in his life. Land you rest in peace Comrade Admiral.
  8. baltika-18
    baltika-18 11 February 2014 10: 57
    +6
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    With regards to Morphine, it is sold with us in any pharmacy and is issued according to a doctor’s prescription, even at home, all with one signature.

    In my opinion, you are whistling Sanya. Read the order of the Ministry of Health No. 54n. And also the form of the prescription form for the National Assembly and PV 107 / u-NP.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 11: 14
      -2
      Quote: baltika-18

      Sanya in my opinion you are whistling.

      Kolya, I wrote out a prescription for I.O. of the head physician with one signature and that’s all! hi
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 11 February 2014 12: 13
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Kolya, I wrote out a prescription for I.O. of the head physician with one signature and that’s all!

        Sanya, this doesn’t mean that all the chief doctors prescribe prescriptions. hi
  • Civil
    Civil 11 February 2014 08: 30
    +7
    My comrade and grandfather had gone from cancer not so long ago, how did they learn how to get these painkillers, fight against drug addiction ... you can’t save addicts anymore, but normal people go to hell. Return article for use and stop mocking terminally ill people!
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      2. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 11 February 2014 08: 59
        +11
        The tongue, so that you dry up .......... a person may have their hands not working, the whole patient ...... What kind of people are we so callous and malevolent ......... .................................................. ...
        .........
        .................... The courageous man left, so as not to torment more relatives, Honor and Glory to him! Eternal memory to the submariner-hero!
        1. Arh
          Arh 11 February 2014 09: 19
          +1
          My condolences .
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      4. dark_65
        dark_65 11 February 2014 09: 54
        +1
        Well, what should I call you?
      5. Ihrek
        Ihrek 11 February 2014 11: 44
        +1
        Quote: Arh
        The admiral doesn’t know how to shoot.

        In your opinion, the admirals should be able to shoot.
      6. Mista_dj
        Mista_dj 11 February 2014 15: 55
        +2
        Aren't you ashamed to write such a thing !?
        The deceased, during his lifetime, was a specialist in missile weapons of submarines, and not in shooting himself in the head.
        The skills are not the same!
        1. Arh
          Arh 11 February 2014 16: 38
          0
          I confess that I read one headline, nothing personal, I’m not pleased myself, then do not look for painful topics because I closed the topic.
  • kaktus
    kaktus 11 February 2014 07: 30
    +4
    Condolences to loved ones.
    .... but mere mortals where to go?
    1. afire
      afire 11 February 2014 07: 53
      +12
      Good morning everybody.
      Last year, my daddy had the same situation (52g.). Ordeals in hospitals, constant exhaustion, pain, torment, it is terrible to see a loved one die.
      Our "hospitals" for cancer patients are dangerous, to be honest. Queues, demands of many signatures, drugs on order often, ignorance and disrespect for the "doctors" themselves. I hate the chief oncologist of the city of Orekhovo-Zuevo, I was ready to take him away ... to go straight there for the words with which he met the newly arrived at the reception. For those 5000ki, which were taken for 1! an injection. Therefore, honestly guys, spend this million on treatment where the thread is in Germany or Israel. We have only close to Moscow - Obninsk
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 11 February 2014 08: 20
        +5
        Yes, nerves on this sea.
        Well, if you are in the subject, or you are somehow connected with medicine, you know the laws, then you will only spend time and nerves, and if not, you need a lot of money. And what a mutual responsibility!
        I haven’t seen anything like this — when I ran into it myself, I was amazed, then the truth helped.
        And yet! In my opinion, very important drugs are generics, analogues.
        Here "no-shpa" costs 200 rubles, and "drotaverin" -20, it's like "aspirin" and "acetylsalicylic acid".
        Often I see how old people rub such rubbish-and they pay thousands for what they do not need, and for the fact that they can buy much cheaper.
        I feel sorry for them ... After all, old people are wise, basically, because life experience does not pass.
        And he teaches that you need to be kind to others, there are almost no old, evil people.
        So how can you deceive the elderly?
        But this Chirkanov actually did so. In hell is his place.
      2. dark_65
        dark_65 11 February 2014 08: 25
        +1
        I agree ..
      3. aksakal
        aksakal 11 February 2014 09: 35
        +5
        Quote: afire
        I hate the chief oncologist in Orekhovo-Zuyevo, I was ready to leave him ... to go straight there for those words of his that he met with the newcomers. For those 5000ki that were taken for 1! an injection

        - and what a fuss is raised in our country when such a doctor takes money for an injection, as a result of his low qualification, the child dies, and the inconsolable father blows the hell out (in fact, it would be better if the worthless brain of this doctor demolished) the jawed doctor. What a noise! "We are holy people! To hit a doctor is like hitting a child!" and further in the text! From the moment you, nasty one, taking advantage of my difficult situation, my panic and fear for the health of my loved one, hinted at a reward - from that moment you are not a doctor, but providing paid services to improve the health of my loved one, and God forbid you do this IMPORTANT! I WILL PAY, I will not stand for the price, but from the moment you received a hint, you are not a doctor, but an STO specialist who has taken up the repair of my loved one, and the demand for poor work will be tough. As I see it, they want to remain in the doctors of saints (with all the acts of respect for the doctor due in this society), and to extort money to their best! How is it in Russian? And eat the fish? No - let them choose - either a highly paid employee of the service sector with all the attributes of an attitude towards workers in this sector "hey you! Come on, serve me better!", Or you are a doctor, and if you are a doctor, people will thank you! Neither hint, nor even EXPRESS you can! Only the willingness to immediately provide assistance! Here is a doctor!
  • waisson
    waisson 11 February 2014 07: 33
    +3
    My condolences to family and friends.
  • Denis
    Denis 11 February 2014 07: 34
    +6
    I ask you not to blame anyone except the Ministry of Health and the government
    It’s a pity, but about the government ...
    Very reminiscent of one nasty radio station. Yes, yes
    interview with "Echo of Moscow"
    Was there a decent radio station?
    The government, of course, is not sugar, but they still cannot cure cancer. And these vultures immediately seized upon this
  • ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 11 February 2014 07: 38
    +3
    Sorry, condolences to relatives and friends, the kingdom of heaven.
  • GOGY
    GOGY 11 February 2014 07: 43
    +3
    Bright memory ! People are leaving ...
  • siberalt
    siberalt 11 February 2014 07: 44
    +11
    Yes, at least half of Russia shoot out, the Ministry of Health will not lead an eyebrow!
    Condolences to family and friends.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 February 2014 07: 49
    +7
    Sorry ... not old yet ..
    Bureaucrats are bloody! am
  • polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 11 February 2014 08: 05
    +6
    Relatives and friends, please accept condolences. That's just one honest admiral in Russia has become less. It turns out that even the dying defender of the fatherland mocked the bureaucrats. And again, the doctors will have nothing to do with !!! Kingdom of heaven admiral
  • starhina01
    starhina01 11 February 2014 08: 11
    +2
    it’s a pity that we have such a reality hi
  • Duke
    Duke 11 February 2014 08: 14
    +2
    Insanely painful, nothing more to say.
  • kavkaz8888
    kavkaz8888 11 February 2014 08: 18
    +1
    The kingdom of heaven is to man.
    And why does his daughter Wuhu give an interview. There’s nobody else to talk to?
    1. alex86
      alex86 11 February 2014 19: 22
      +1
      It turns out that there is no one with whom, since the conversation did not work out with either the Ministry of Health or the government (conditionally). Who in our country is interested in "spent" people? ... As my late grandmother used to say: "A service already rendered is worth nothing"
    2. Denis
      Denis 12 February 2014 02: 05
      -1
      Quote: kavkaz8888
      He gives an interview to Wuhu. No one to talk to anymore?
      So there for them such tidbits
      I ask you not to blame anyone except the Ministry of Health and the government
      to the ears it is necessary to work out the soldering
  • demotivator
    demotivator 11 February 2014 08: 28
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    But the Ministry of Health and the government have to do with it?

    Maybe nothing to do with it. Only here is the daughter of Apanasenko, Yekaterina Lokshina, on her Facebook page called the cause of suicide “failure to provide adequate pain relief from a medical institution”. According to her, the relatives could not get narcotic painkillers for Apanasenko. Lokshina explained: “The bureaucratic delays dragged on, and the father decided not to torture his loved ones anymore (as he wrote in the note).”
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 08: 33
      +2
      Quote: demotivator
      Maybe nothing to do with it. Only here is the daughter of Apanasenko, Yekaterina Lokshina, on her Facebook page called the cause of suicide “failure to provide adequate pain relief from a medical institution”. According to her, relatives could not get narcotic painkillers for Apanasenko

      You know, I was not an admiral, but even it was not difficult for me when I was sick to go to the pharmacy and get this fucking Morphine. Believe me, the Admiral of the Fleet will receive medical assistance much more than me or you as a mere mortal.
      Although I can understand his daughter when my grandfather died, I blamed the doctors for everything. Yes, and given his position and connections, problems with morphine are generally nonsense.
      1. Pinochet000
        Pinochet000 11 February 2014 09: 00
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Believe me, the Admiral of the Fleet will receive medical assistance much more than me or you as a mere mortal.

        So why not have? Why did the admiral shoot himself and what to do as a mere mortal .... if what?
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 11 February 2014 13: 13
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The fleet’s admiral will receive much more medical care than me or you as a mere mortal.
          Although I can understand his daughter when my grandfather died, I blamed the doctors for everything. Yes, and given his position and connections, problems with morphine are generally nonsense.

          I don’t understand, in the army, or rather in the hospitals of the Moscow Region, the promedol ended?
          1. Pinochet000
            Pinochet000 11 February 2014 14: 45
            0
            Quote: PSih2097
            or rather, in the hospitals of Moscow oblast, promedol is over?

            I read that instead of promedol, there’s some kind of bullshit in first-aid kits, but I don’t know for sure)) Now you can’t be sure of anything ...
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      2. demotivator
        demotivator 11 February 2014 16: 08
        +1
        Alexander, everything can be, even with the admirals of morphlot. As it turns out, this is not so simple.
        Russian Deputy Prime Minister Olga Golodets instructed the Russian Ministry of Health to conduct a weekly verification of the reasons for the refusal of painkillers to Rear Admiral Vyacheslav Apanasenko, who died on February 10 as a result of suicide, and if necessary, to hold officials accountable, the website of the Russian government reports. Earlier media reported that Apanasenko, who suffered from an incurable disease, tried to commit suicide last Friday. The cause of suicide, according to media reports, was the admiral's protest against bureaucratic delays with the purchase of pain medications.
        Meanwhile, according to the website of the Russian government, in December 2012, an order of the Ministry of Health came into force, which allows the oncologist to make a single-handed decision on the provision of pain medication to the patient.
        The Ministry of Health was instructed to analyze the practice of executing the order in all regions and hold a training meeting for oncologists on the execution of the order.

        See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/russia/news/357391
      3. military
        military 11 February 2014 16: 52
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I was not an admiral, but even it was not difficult for me when I was sick to go to the pharmacy and get this fucking Morphine.

        cancer cancer strife ... my father was also not an admiral ... dying at home from sarcoma of the pancreas ... a terrible death ... from hunger (the body refuses to absorb food in any form) ... a person turns into a living skeleton ... promedol every 6 hours ... at the finish line - intestinal atony (the body "eats" itself) ... collected ampoules - ran to the clinic ... stood in line to the oncologist (doctor - "part-time" - one for the entire clinic) - passed ampoules under the report - a form with a red stripe in the teeth and running to the pharmacy (in the city there is only one who works with drugs) - received another 10 ampoules and is happy to shit (because the doctor immediately warns that the chances of buying a recipe for "fifty-fifty ") ... so that I understand the admiral's family very much ... and the admiral himself too ... while pulling the trigger, he was not thinking about himself at all ... by the way, about statements like" admiral, but could not shoot himself "... a person with such a diagnosis at the end of his life is not able to independently hold a cup of water ... not that oh gun ... I saw - I know ...
      4. alex86
        alex86 11 February 2014 19: 36
        +2
        What are you like a cuckoo
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        problems with morphine are generally nonsense

        if you didn’t have a problem, this does not mean that no one should have them. So I don’t smoke - and I don’t have a problem with smoking, someone smokes - and he does not have a problem with smoking, and someone smokes - and he Yes smoking problem. Rear Admiral's family was a problem with painkillers, but you didn’t have it - you didn’t have it, and thank God. Well, do you think they didn’t take painkillers specifically? ... You would stop in your comments - despite your moderator stars, you have thrown minuses (one mine) - they do not approve of your position.
        And rear admiral - respect and eternal memory, God forbid, if you find yourself in such a situation, be able to do the same ...
  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 11 February 2014 08: 33
    +1
    But even in such a difficult period of his life, Apanasenko did not cease to be interested in the fate of Gadzhievo, often called the garrison, maintained close contact with the leadership of the ZATO and the command, SeverPost.ru notes.

    You can’t do anything. If there is life there, then our ancestors support us. Personally, I hope to be among them. As you can see, this person did his job during his lifetime. I hope that there he will be with us.
  • Alex_Popovson
    Alex_Popovson 11 February 2014 08: 34
    +2
    I ask you not to blame anyone except the Ministry of Health and the government

    People clearly don’t know a damn thing about oncology or about how it is treated or, for example, they are engaged in palliative care for incurable patients.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 11 February 2014 08: 43
      +9
      quote-On Monday morning, Rear Admiral Vyacheslav Apanasenko died without regaining consciousness, reports FlashNord with reference to Captain 1st Rank, Secretary of the "Commonwealth of Veterans of Submariners Gadzhievo" organization Yuri Travkin.

      Good memory to Rear Admiral. I believe that in this case, the prosecutor's office needs to initiate criminal proceedings upon suicide.Let understands, a person has not just passed away; they brought him to this. Guilty should be punished, period. am
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 11 February 2014 12: 45
        +2
        Quote: Apollon
        I believe that in this case, the prosecutor's office needs to initiate criminal proceedings on the fact of bringing to suicide. Let him understand, the person did not just die, they brought him to this. Guilty should be punished, period.

        I subscribe to every word!
      2. military
        military 12 February 2014 10: 13
        0
        Quote: Apollon
        I believe that in this case, the prosecutor's office needs to initiate criminal proceedings on the fact of bringing to suicide. Let him understand, the person did not just die, they brought him to this. Guilty should be punished, period.

        +1 good unconditionally ...
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 11 February 2014 08: 59
    +2
    Quote: mirag2
    I know why, whether it’s either Veresaev, or Chekhov, or Bulgakov, one of the writers of doctors raised this topic).

    Bulgakov- notes of a young doctor, and he has the same about morphine ..
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 11 February 2014 09: 00
    +7
    Condolences to relatives.
    "I ask you not to blame anyone, except the Ministry of Health and the government. He himself is ready to suffer, but to see the suffering of his family and friends is intolerable. "

    Any seriously ill person who encounters a bureaucracy can sign this phrase.
    I know what I am writing. To write out recipes for my half, I have to spend at least one or two days a month completely. (Specialist, printout, collection of signatures, commission .... Of course, crush)
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Morphine is a drug, but buying it with a prescription is not a problem!

    You can probably buy drugs without prescriptions there. Familiarize yourself with the problem before writing nonsense.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 09: 07
      -1
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      You can probably buy drugs without prescriptions there. Familiarize yourself with the problem before writing nonsense.

      I got acquainted with the problem on my own health and there were no problems with the purchase of morphine. And if you read my comments more carefully, and didn’t rush to put cons, you would read With regards to Morphine, it is sold with us in any pharmacy and is issued according to a doctor’s prescription, even at home, all with one signature.
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      I know what I am writing. To prescribe recipes for my half, I have to spend at least one or two days a month on a monthly basis.

      You are a mere mortal, and here is the admiral, who will receive help many times faster than you.
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 11 February 2014 09: 24
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        With regards to Morphine, it is sold with us at any pharmacy and is issued by prescription, even at home.With just one signature .

        It seems that a long time ago they were not in the clinic. I'm happy for you.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 09: 45
          0
          Quote: There was a mammoth
          It seems that a long time ago they were not in the clinic. I'm happy for you.

          And you all the best.
    2. Alex_Popovson
      Alex_Popovson 11 February 2014 09: 08
      +2
      Actually, according to a special recipe from the Oncology Center, please - it’s easy to buy Durogezik and MCT Continus. True, this is true for Moscow and St. Petersburg, for the rest of the cities I will not say - I do not know.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 11 February 2014 09: 46
        0
        Quote: Alex_Popovson
        True, this is true for Moscow and St. Petersburg, for the rest of the cities I will not say - I do not know.

        We also have no problems with this.
  • rotmistr4
    rotmistr4 11 February 2014 09: 06
    +4
    Rest in peace!!! The bold act of a strong man !!!!
  • Naum
    Naum 11 February 2014 10: 02
    +4
    Quote: haron
    It’s easier to buy heroin for an addict on the streets than an anesthetic for an ill patient.

    100%! Our glorious state is so bureaucratic that it itself begins to suffocate in this nightmare. The most interesting thing is that this is all done with a supposed good purpose - to put a barrier to abuse and embezzlement. In fact, it turns out the other way around: theft is still an affordable business for sophisticated crooks, depriving them of "competitors" (well, they are a priori out of competition!). Normal people who do not have the strength and time to break through the bureaucratic walls suffer in powerlessness and shoot. Well, how long will this horror last ?!
    Blessed memory to the Admiral! ..
  • VenDora
    VenDora 11 February 2014 11: 52
    +1
    My condolences to relatives and friends. What is our government if it does not honor even its military
  • Hagalas
    Hagalas 11 February 2014 12: 02
    +1
    My condolences to the family. But I don’t believe that Rear Admiral couldn’t get the drugs. Rather, I believe that an honest man was shot.
  • Urri
    Urri 11 February 2014 12: 37
    0
    Quote: There was a mammoth
    “I ask you not to blame anyone, except the Ministry of Health and the government.


    These have other problems. Not a bitter drunkard plumber needed help. Once, when the oligarchs suddenly urgently need to protect their assets and privatized subsoil from the same sharks because of the cordon, it suddenly turns out that nobody not only WANTS to protect them, but simply IS NOT ABLE, even for trillions of rubles.

    An oligarch who does not want to feed his army will not feed someone else's, because he will immediately cease to be an oligarch.
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 11 February 2014 13: 48
      +1
      Quote: Urri
      These have other problems.

      God forbid anyone to get into a situation, even to the "oligarchs" that V. Apanasenko and his family got into (unfortunately, they do not get so little as it seems). There are diseases from which no money will save. And the oligarchs have nothing to do with it.
      I respect the admiral’s deed. He understood that no terrible physical suffering of his own could be compared with the moral pain of his relatives, who could not help anything. Believe me, I know what I'm writing about.
  • konvalval
    konvalval 11 February 2014 15: 29
    0
    Quote: VenDora
    My condolences to relatives and friends. What is our government if it does not honor even its military

    What a prime is such a government.
  • Mista_dj
    Mista_dj 11 February 2014 16: 01
    +2
    Male act!
    I do not condone, but I understand!
    Good memory to the officer!
    Condolences to the family and loved ones of the deceased ...
  • demotivator
    demotivator 11 February 2014 18: 23
    +1
    Quote: Apollon
    I believe that in this case, the prosecutor's office needs to initiate criminal proceedings on the fact of bringing to suicide. Let him understand, the person did not just die, they brought him to this. Guilty should be punished, period.

    They just came to their senses - following the Ministry of Health, the UK announced that it was starting a check on the suicide of Rear Admiral Apanasenko. So far, only a check, and then we'll see how it all ends.
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 11 February 2014 19: 52
      +1
      Quote: demotivator
      So far, only a check, and then we'll see how it all ends.

      Zilch will end.
      They will not dig, and they will not give it. If you dig, the second "doctors' business" can be dug up.
      Created by the Ministry of Health system (I emphasize, the system) of providing medicines does not have the names of its creators. "Fighters" against drug addiction, who advocated toughening, are also out of work. There are no people responsible except the minister. signatory- also not to blame, far away. Ordinary doctors followed the instructions. Yes, they are afraid to violate the instructions. A criminal case, by the way, but what about the Ministry of Health? "A raven will not peck out a crow's eyes."
      In short, there is death - there will be no guilty ones. Unless they decide to find the "switchman."
      So, the admiral is right: "I ask you not to blame anyone, except the Ministry of Health and the government."
  • georg737577
    georg737577 11 February 2014 19: 31
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov

    ... - I bought it (morphine) myself and therefore I say
    ...

    Reading some of your comments, Romanov - I believe! You probably also get LSD without a prescription ...
  • psychologist
    psychologist 11 February 2014 21: 24
    +3
    brought our managers !! made laws! But ordinary people suffer !! it’s necessary to carry such people in their arms, to keep them on full state security !! and they are with him like that ((((((((((((((insulting !! condolences to the family ..............
  • studentmati
    studentmati 12 February 2014 00: 32
    +1
    ... the date of the funeral has not yet been determined, but the place of burial is already known - this is the Troekurovsky cemetery in Moscow ...


    But why not at the "Federal War Memorial Cemetery" in Mytishchi? Merit obliges! The fact of suicide should be regarded as an act of an officer!