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There are no official complaints on the FGFA on the Indian side - Alexander Kadakin

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There are no official complaints on the FGFA on the Indian side - Alexander Kadakin

Russia's Ambassador to India, Alexander Kadakin, said that there were no official complaints from India about the development of the fifth-generation FGFA fighter, reports indrus.in 7 February.


“We do not pay attention to the negative publications that occasionally appear in the press, with accusations that Russia does not fulfill its obligations to India. We did not receive any official complaints from the Indian side, ”Kadakin said during the military exhibition Defexpo 2014.

Vyacheslav Dzilkarn, Deputy Director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) of Russia, stated that all such publications are written to order. Commenting on such articles, Dzilkarn noted that negotiations are conducted within the framework of agreements. Sources in the Indian Ministry of Defense believe that the Air Force is trying to free up funds for the purchase of French fighter jets Rafale 126.

The Russian United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) estimates the Indian-Russian fifth-generation fighter market at 200 aircraft, the world market at 400 aircraft. The Times of India previously reported that the parties are close to signing a major contract worth more than $ 11 billion to develop the FGFA. “The first prototype will arrive in India in 2014 and will undergo flight tests at the Ozar base (Maharashtra), and we hope that the aircraft will be put into service in 2022,” said the Air Force chief of staff, chief marshal aviation Norman Anil Kumar Browne

According to the marshal, up to 2019, Indian scientists and test pilots will work both at the Ozar base and at a test center in Russia, mass production will be deployed at the plant of the aircraft building corporation HAL.

Alexander Fomin, the first deputy director of FSMTC, said that it would take at least 6-10 years to develop FGFA. “In the future, we will export the aircraft in cooperation with Indian partners,” the official said.

According to Indian media, both parties intend to spend 8-10 billion dollars on the development and creation of FGFA. Experts believe that the cost / effectiveness fighter will exceed Western counterparts and will allow and take a worthy place in the global market of combat aircraft. Usually you need 3-4 year of testing before the plane goes into series. The Russian T-50 may also fit into such a schedule, since the prototypes showed their reliability in various flight modes.

Fifth generation fighters are currently available only in the United States - the F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning. However, the Russian T-50 in its characteristics exceeds the F-22, reports the publication.
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  1. mountain
    mountain 10 February 2014 11: 34
    +6
    Well, myths dissipated and we are again in the game for tens of billions, deserved, by the way.)))
    1. Salamander
      Salamander 10 February 2014 12: 24
      +10
      Well, the Hindus are a little pouting, realizing that they are not allowed to all secrets, but they do not make official statements - otherwise they won’t get anything ...

      Russian-Indian cooperation reminds me of a joke (instead of a Vietnamese - an Indian):
      The crew returned from the flight, where there was the first Vietnamese astronaut. He is being interviewed:
      - You are the first cosmonaut of Vietnam, what are your impressions of space.
      “Oh, the cosmos is nice, there are beautiful stars around the star, and the buttons on the rocket are beautiful ...”
      “Why do you have such blue hands?” Is it from overload?
      - But the Russian is hitting me on the hands, everything is hitting me too: - Nothing, narrow-eyed, do not touch here!
      laughing laughing laughing
    2. Cherdak
      Cherdak 10 February 2014 22: 50
      0
      Quote: mountain
      Well, myths dissipated and we are back in the game
  2. rugor
    rugor 10 February 2014 11: 47
    +3
    Clear fuss of competitors. In this dirty game, all methods are good. It is necessary to correctly evaluate everything and, as far as possible, to prevent attacks.
  3. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 10 February 2014 11: 49
    +2
  4. Wiruz
    Wiruz 10 February 2014 11: 57
    +4
    But on my part, complaints are being received, albeit so far unofficial. Found, damn it, with whom to cooperate on export IPP. Another used with gypsies was the development.
    1. Heavy
      Heavy 10 February 2014 12: 16
      +6
      Throw comrade lieutenant colonel)) What are the joint developments? They are business and nothing personal. Money, and only money - that's what is required of the Indians, and our specialists will do everything in the best possible way. Well, maybe they will allow the southern "brothers" to paint the finished product with our own paint, or they will print beautiful booklets with the personal signatures of all the leading district kshatriyas with the resolution of the All-Indian head-brahmana (also what no participation, isn't it?). And ours will even confirm how hard we tried together and built and built, and finally built. And even let's call the creation some kind of air-bramos ... We don't mind, do we? It's a pity - the bee has it. ))
      In general, we hold the tail with a gun and enjoy cooperation with these tsygs ... uh ... made a reservation, by the Indians.
      Peace to all))
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 10 February 2014 12: 58
        +4
        I just don’t want India to beat herself in front of other countries in the chest, they say, look what kind of fighter we made.
        1. alone
          alone 10 February 2014 21: 24
          +2
          Quote: Wiruz
          I just don’t want India to beat herself in front of other countries in the chest, they say, look what kind of fighter we made.


          Do not worry! they would learn how to manage the MiG-21; poor planes already refuse to fly with their pilots.
    2. Galinanp
      Galinanp 10 February 2014 12: 20
      +6
      Wiruz KZ Today, 11:57 AM New
      But on my part, complaints are being received, albeit so far unofficial. Found, damn it, with whom to cooperate on export IPP. Still used with gypsies led the development

      It is not so simple. Most likely, such projects are building a geopolitical counterbalance to the strategic partner China, as yet.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 10 February 2014 15: 10
        +3
        A wise remark is quite.
      2. voliador
        voliador 10 February 2014 20: 24
        0
        And this must be done now.
    3. evgenii67
      evgenii67 10 February 2014 16: 12
      +1
      Quote: Wiruz
      Another used with gypsies was the development.

      so they kind of (gypsies) from those lands got out
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 10 February 2014 20: 46
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      Quote: Wiruz
      Another used with gypsies was the development.

      The gypsies would pay for the development - they would lead with the gypsies!
      In fact, the Indians were offered the option of supplying money, it was they themselves who later proposed localization, here are the problems. They don’t produce good goods and they don’t pass the technology to them!
  5. Nayhas
    Nayhas 10 February 2014 12: 57
    +1
    There are no official complaints on the FGFA on the Indian side - Alexander Kadakin

    So, claims can be presented either by the leadership of the HAL Corporation, or by the Ministry of Defense of India, and they just have no complaints. Claims were with the leadership of the Indian Air Force, which they expressed to the Minister of Defense and HAL Corporation, which were to bring these claims to the Russian side. But since nobody cares about the wishes of the Air Force, there are no obstacles to signing the contract.
  6. Tiamat2702
    Tiamat2702 10 February 2014 13: 22
    +2
    The Defense Ministry of Hindu Och often have complaints about the HAL. That's what really can happen, so that the HAL will mess up with quality or deadlines (which is common for them), and try to translate the arrows on ours.
  7. jjj
    jjj 10 February 2014 13: 46
    0
    The arms trade is a lucrative occupation. That's all and I want to get a little involved in the business. But there, it happens, you can stay without a head
  8. propolsky
    propolsky 10 February 2014 13: 52
    +3
    Hindus should understand that it is better to tolerate and help now than to buy finished goods later, but at a different price tag. Nobody will transmit their military secrets in the form of technological innovations (unless he is a traitor and not mentally ill), the market is certainly large, but you can fly in, sorting out with grubs ...
  9. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 10 February 2014 14: 17
    +2
    I would not be happy and not sad about this post. Hindus, they are like that - seven Fridays a week.
    Another question is that the mere fact that we help them in the development of a fifth-generation fighter outlines a certain range of our interests and intentions in this region. Something like a flag show.

    In the end, if all this crawls to the logical ending, then I will only be glad, provided that the cash flows are not parity, but in our direction.
    By the way, the Indian school of programming is not very bad. But in this it is possible that they will help us in a certain breakthrough. Although ... we can cope without them.

    The author is a permanent plus. smile
    1. viktorR
      viktorR 10 February 2014 15: 52
      +1
      By the way, the Indian programming school is not very bad.

      I've seen enough of the Hindu code))) To my mind, ma'am "Hindu programmer" is known throughout the Internet)))
  10. supertiger21
    supertiger21 10 February 2014 15: 36
    0
    Hindus are clearly borscht. They invest 25% of the entire development price, but now they also want to develop it themselves. A similar story was on the F-35, when Australia agreed with the United States.
  11. konvalval
    konvalval 10 February 2014 19: 38
    0
    And here is the information war. Not fair competition, gentlemen, imperialists.
  12. voliador
    voliador 10 February 2014 20: 27
    0
    And when was it different? Especially since the scrappers plow at large corporations, such as Boeing and Lockheed.
  13. voliador
    voliador 10 February 2014 20: 28
    0
    And for public money.
  14. SV
    SV 10 February 2014 21: 10
    0
    Does the situation seem to be repeating itself? With an eye on the joint development of the BRAMOS missiles. As a result, the Indians adopted this missile, and ours refused, because they already had much more perfect (the Indian is a greatly truncated analogue of ours), to which the Indians were very offended, a scandal was brewing, but then everything suddenly abated ....
  15. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 10 February 2014 23: 28
    +1
    Quote: Al_lexx
    Hindus, they are like that - seven Fridays a week.

    Hindus are wise and far-sighted. I will explain why.
    In the Asia-Pacific region, tension is being escalated. The players are nuclear powers: China and the United States. The US already has the F-22 and F-35, China is developing. None of them are going to sell 5th generation fighters. We are building a car that is superior to both American and Chinese versions. With money, as always, not a lot. The military-technical cooperation has been established: the aircraft carrier, T-90, MiG-29K, Su-30MKI, Pla, etc. 971 are leased (Nerpa - Chakra), the second is going to be completed at their own expense and leased for 10 years. Tell me with what other country do we have such cooperation? Who can really be a counterweight to tangerines, if anything?
    And here is a real opportunity to invest and get weapons of the future based on the division of production at domestic producer prices. This is a clear benefit. This saves time and effort NT thoughts. China has only demonstrated a full-scale model, and the T-50 is already flying the 5 machine (it’s being tested: one is surely broken by ground workers, the second is fired, etc.). This is the reason for the desire to participate in the project, to finance the development. Moreover, Turkey, Japan, South Korea are stepping on their heels. There are some developments, but they are not expected earlier than 2018.
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  17. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 11 February 2014 00: 39
    +1
    And here is how these cars look with our incredible friends:

    It will look like a Chinese stealth fighter J-20. Chinese press reports on 2's prototypes of this unit

    It will look like a Chinese stealth fighter J-20. The Chinese press reports on 2's prototypes of this device.

    This is how the Japanese fighter of the 5 generation is seen. This one seems. also take off and land vertically

    This is how the Japanese fighter of the 5 generation is seen. This one seems. It will also take off and land vertically.

    And this is another contender for gaining dominance in the air - the Chinese fighter of the 5 generation J-30 / F-60.

    And this is another contender for gaining dominance in the air - the Chinese fighter of the 5 generation J-30 / F-60.

    This is a sketch of a lightweight Chinese fighter of the 5 generation J-23 (25). The option is based on a new nuclear-powered AVU of Chinese design

    This is a sketch of the lightweight Chinese fighter of the 5 generation J-23 (25). The option is based on a new nuclear-powered AVU of Chinese design.
  18. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 11 February 2014 08: 03
    0
    Well, India will not refuse. There is no alternative. They, although the "Indians" ditched the submarine, still understand that it is better with us. And then, China! Their choice is scanty. I will not say that they have Zhukovs there, but sometimes you have to hit them on the coupol so that they know their place, and not jump anywhere. Though they are not fools, like. Or am I mistaken?