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Who will help Ukraine?

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In the light of recent events, it becomes obvious that the West is apparently ready to make the most in order to lead Ukraine out of the zone of influence of Russia. Under the pressure of the current situation, the head of the Ukrainian state, V. Yanukovych, is even ready to announce the holding of early elections, not only parliamentary, but also presidential, in the event that it is not possible to agree with the opposition. According to the president, this will be the only possible democratic way to resolve the conflict. In addition, Yanukovych completely excludes the possibility of using force to resolve the situation and impose a state of emergency in the country.

It is obvious that such a step of the president will allow the opposition to come to power in the foreseeable future. Previously, this option was mainly associated with the crisis of the Ukrainian economy due to the fact that Russia will cease to provide Ukraine with financial support. However, currently this option is no longer relevant.

And the thing is that the West (in particular, the United States of America and the European Union) is developing a plan of "financial assistance" to the Ukrainian state. At least, this was told by the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the European Union, Catherine Ashton. She stated that it is not only about direct financial investments, but also some other events, including guarantees of the stability of the Ukrainian national currency and ensuring future investments. However, the West is ready to give money not for “just like that,” he put forward a number of certain conditions.

As a matter of fact, no one expected it to be any different. So, Ukraine will receive money only if the authorities embark on political and economic reforms. At the same time, neither Washington nor Brussels do not yet name the exact amount of possible assistance, only casually mentioning “big money”. By the way, the leaders of the Ukrainian opposition are confident that in order to stabilize the situation in the country, 15 will be enough billions of dollars.

We note: it is precisely this amount that V. Putin promised to give to the Ukrainian president in the event of a refusal of European integration. If the West is ready to give the same money, then the Russian proposal to some extent loses its appeal. Well, in a pinch, it ceases to be exclusive. Moreover, the West in the person of S. Füle already offered something else today: in the future, he is allegedly ready to fully integrate the Ukrainian state into the European Union (but, again, no specifics regarding the timing of the fulfillment of this promise).

Thus, the West offers Ukraine money, free elections and the prospect of European integration. But is this really the case and is it true that Russia is losing in the struggle for Ukraine?

According to the MSU employee Alexei Vlasov, it is not at all that the West is ready to immediately give Ukraine money. He sets a condition - political and economic reforms, that is, in essence, the EU representatives returned to the positions that were held before the signing of the association agreement. The only thing that at the moment the European Union and America have promised Kiev are a deeper European perspective, which, as the expert noted, is not specific and is propaganda and psychological rather than practical.

Vlasov is convinced that all the promises of the West are attempts to support the Ukrainian opposition in terms of information. However, there are many unresolved issues, in particular, this one: can the Ukrainian economy be able to transfer these structural reforms? After all, she is not ready for them at all.

Of course, in theory, the Marshall Plan is possible in relation to Ukraine, but in practice it is extremely difficult to implement, because there are a lot of funds to be invested in the Ukrainian economy, but where are they from the EU? Therefore, in this situation, representatives of the EU are doing quite well: they talk about the possibility of investment only if Kiev observes a number of conditions. But at the same time, both sides understand that now giving money to Ukraine is simply throwing it away. Thus, it becomes obvious that in reality no credit should be expected from the West.

Speaking about whether Russia will provide financial support to Ukraine in the event of a change of power there, Vlasov said that Putin understands that in this case (being in power), the Ukrainian opposition will themselves refuse Russian assistance (for ideological reasons) and will not extend the deadline the agreement signed by N. Azarov. Therefore, the Russian head of state says so calmly that Russia gives money to the Ukrainian people, and not to the government at all.

Vlasov spoke about the statements of V. Yanukovich about the possibility of holding early elections in Ukraine. In his opinion, the whole thing is in the possibility of returning to the Constitution of 2004 of the year. If this happens, and Ukraine will again become a parliamentary-presidential republic, the election of the head of state will not play a big role. That is, Yanukovych is not trying to give up power at all, he wants to move the struggle to a slightly different plane. The Ukrainian guarantor, according to Vlasov, is well aware that he has no other options besides the use of force to resolve the conflict. Therefore, he is trying to arrange everything in such a way that the opposition already had to make a decision on what is more important - the presidency or the parliament. Moreover, it will be very difficult for the opposition forces to reach a coalition agreement. Thus, an attempt at a political maneuver is obvious, but time will show how successful it will be.

The expert also noted that at present, the East and South-East of the country do not have a clearly developed ideology that could oppose the radical ideas of the West. Therefore, residents of these regions have several options: either join the West, or become victims of a coup, which began to spread to the eastern regions.

Therefore, it is quite possible to hold early presidential elections in the spring and summer of this year. And then ... If a force is formed in the Ukrainian East that can withstand radical nationalist sentiments, the struggle is only beginning. Otherwise, it is safe to talk about the deep systemic victory of the Ukrainian opposition.

At the same time, the rector of the CIS Institute, M. Frolov, is confident that in this situation the Ukrainian president’s habit of maneuvering between two opposing sides - Russia and the EU - is to blame. If Ukraine holds early presidential elections, Yanukovych will definitely lose them. The expert also stated that he does not exclude even the possibility of Y. Tymoshenko’s victory in these elections and the placement of Yanukovich in prison.

Therefore, I am sure Frolov, the Ukrainian guarantor is currently at a crossroads, wondering how it would be more profitable to hand over power. The President of Ukraine no longer controls the situation, it was necessary to act much earlier and much more rigidly — simply to disperse the Maidan. But he showed weakness, for which he is now paying the price ...

At the same time, Frolov noted, even if the opposition wins, Kiev will receive neither membership in the European Union nor European money. Representatives of the West are well aware that Ukraine will need a lot of money, so they are politely denied loans: they say, we will give money, only first you invest your money and carry out reforms. In addition, the EU is currently full of its problems, because it is necessary to save Greece and Spain from the crisis. In addition, it is necessary that the Ukrainian institutions are brought to European standards, and this cannot be done in one year. Thus, Frolov summed up, all the statements of the West are nothing more than a diplomatic game ...

This is partially confirmed. Catherine Ashton's bold statements about the possibility of lending and about large sums were refuted, but in a soft, diplomatic form. Jen Psaki, a representative of the State Department, said that all the talk about the possibility of financial assistance to Ukraine were preliminary and that no decisions have been made so far. In a more rigid form, he refuted the words of Ashton and the head of the European Commission, Durán Manuel Barroso, who recalled that no one had promised to pay Ukraine only for signing the association agreement.

Thus, instead of money and real help, representatives of the European Union propose to show Kiev the prospects for joining this very union. It seems that they seriously think that the Ukrainian people will buy into such vague and ambiguous wording so easily. In addition, it is obvious from Washington’s statements that he does not intend to render assistance to Kiev even if opposition forces come to power. The West proposes that Ukrainian oppositionists start negotiations with the International Monetary Fund from scratch and, for their successful completion, fulfill a number of requirements (in particular, to reduce social programs).

Thus, the Ukrainian people have to decide what is more important in this case: the promises of Western politicians about the illusory possibility of European integration or the real loans received from Moscow.

http://svpressa.ru/world/article/81678/
http://www.rg.ru/2014/02/04/mnenie-site.html
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1253967
http://slon.ru/world/pochemu_ukrainskie_oppozitsionery_nachali_boi_mezhdu_soboy-1052729.xhtml
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 10 February 2014 08: 13
    +9
    Even if they help with money, then under such percentages and conditions that mother does not grieve!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 February 2014 08: 23
      +14
      Quote: Igor39
      Even if they help with money, then under such percentages and conditions that mother does not grieve!

      Well, in the first place they will help, only the government created from the opposition. The association is again in the foreground. The West after signing with interest will return everything spent and the result will be the same, a broken trough hi
      And anyway, what the hell they get, Putin will not give Ukraine.
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 10 February 2014 08: 53
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Putin will not give Ukraine

        Ukraine itself will surrender. He will choose who is more profitable and will surrender. Here, in fact, the country, God forgive me.
        1. Ivan_Ivanov
          Ivan_Ivanov 10 February 2014 10: 30
          +5
          Ukraine itself will surrender. He will choose who is more profitable and will surrender. Here, in fact, the country, God forgive me.

          One of the methods used by European ukronazists to separate the Russian land called Ukraine from Russia is to post all the nasty things about Ukraine on behalf of Russian bloggers, or by Russian bloggers themselves at the request of Maidan fighters and their leaders. About this there is a screen shot of the hacked mail of the leaders of the Maidan.
          Nikolai, do you help them consciously, or out of stupidity?

          And what Ukraine is all about is exhaustively evident in the words of Berkutovets: Moscow is behind us!
          1. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 10 February 2014 10: 50
            +6
            Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
            what Ukraine is clearly seen in the words of Berkutovets: Moscow is behind us!

            What Ukraine is like can be clearly seen from the Ukrainian authorities, oligarchy and other "elite". And this can be clearly seen not only now, when, when it was pinned, but also when it seemed to this elite that they were holding God (for me ..) by the gas pipe.
            Even Tabachnyk did not change the system of Ukrainian "education" - Svidomo zombies and propaganda in schools.

            And the presence in Ukraine of worthy and decent people, such as this Berkutovets, I am not questioned. The people, after all, are the same as us. That's just the power for some reason is not with them.

            And Yanukovych just wait for everything to pass, as he passed in 2004.

            But father, as if at times did not scandal with Putin, does not even suggest that he could sell the Belarusian people or friendship with Russia.
            1. Ivan_Ivanov
              Ivan_Ivanov 10 February 2014 11: 06
              +4
              What Ukraine is like can be fully seen from the Ukrainian authorities, oligarchy and other "elite"

              And what could be said about Russia in the 90s, the beginning of the 00s? Sorry, I can’t agree with you. Russia (as well as part of Ukraine) is always strong, a great Power, despite temporary difficulties. I do not agree with Novodvorsky, Nemtsov, Navalny and you.

              Even Tabachnyk did not change the system of Ukrainian "education"

              Even Russia, a strong nuclear power, cannot simply take and restore order in its education (and many other industries). What can we say about Ukraine? I have no doubt that Russia will restore order in education, just like Ukraine.

              In Moscow, for 15 years, traitors and villains have been in power. Gorbachev, then Yeltsin. So do not kick Ukraine, that its power was suddenly not very noble, patriotic ...
              1. Nicholas C.
                Nicholas C. 10 February 2014 14: 30
                +1
                Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                I do not agree with Novodvorsky, Nemtsov, Navalny and you.

                You were probably proud of yourself when you came up with this. Only the arguments I would like to see at least some. And then the yard is already the middle of the 10s, and you have everything 90s. As here:


                And whatever claims to the Russian education system would be, even the most popular Fursenko would not have promoted a school textbook with pearls about "more than 140 year old Ukrainian people." (In our case, Russian).

                And I agree that Ukraine is part of Russia. Only how many of these are left in Ukraine, who remembers this? In Ukrainian textbooks the opposite is written. And Bandera hosts already far east of Zbruch. And no one, first of all, power, does not give them a shortcut according to the LAW. And they don’t even show intentions.
                1. Ivan_Ivanov
                  Ivan_Ivanov 10 February 2014 14: 53
                  +3
                  We don’t know, laugh, or cry over this textbook.

                  Do we still have the 90s? Well yes.

                  We want to get out. Because Maidan and we have muddied. When you got out of the 90s to get out, you had to go through the 2nd Chechen one. And after a lot of bad things. And Russia withstood these tests with honor.

                  I think that being measured by those who were worse off is not constructive and plays into the hands of our opponents.

                  And Bandera hosts already far east of Zbruch. And no one, first of all, power, does not give them a shortcut according to the LAW.

                  Your question is as inappropriate as the question to the Ukrainians in 41-43, why they did nothing with the Ukrainian policemen. Power acts on the mind, and not as it seems right to you. These are not just Bandera people. This Svidomo Judah in the service of the West. Touching them NOW means running into sanctions, means unleashing a groovy slaughter with the deaths of peaceful Russian Ukrainians. I do not need it. You do not understand this.
                  Strangle the power of the Maidan in the arms, then we will enumerate the country. With Russian and God's help.
                  1. Nicholas C.
                    Nicholas C. 10 February 2014 15: 39
                    0
                    Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                    This Svidomo Judah in the service of the West. Touching them NOW means running into sanctions, means unleashing a groovy slaughter with the deaths of peaceful Russian Ukrainians.

                    Who wants, he seeks opportunities. He who does not want seeks excuse.

                    That father immediately sent for their sanctions. And it didn’t get to the blood. Bai Nazar was not spoiled either.

                    The result is:
                    Nominal GDP in mil. dale USA:
                    45.Kazakhstan 224 858
                    56.Ukraine 175 527
                    67.Belarus 69 242
                    But these countries also have many times fewer people, i.e. per capita:
                    Belarus - 16650
                    Kazakhstan - 14723
                    Ukraine - 8167
                    Those. Ukrainians are already two times poorer than the citizens of these countries, and three - Russians. But this is in bare numbers. In reality, the state gives Ukrainians practically very little in comparison with the named countries.

                    And, after all, there is also:
                    the ratio of external debt to the annual GDP of the country at the beginning of 2013 is:
                    Kazakhstan 34,4%
                    Belarus 21,1%
                    Ukraine 80-82%
                    This is an important indicator for assessing prospects.

                    So now think who is under SANCTIONS and who is not! And is it worth it to be afraid of these sanctions if the fear of sanctions causes losses many times greater than from the sanctions themselves. Do what is profitable for the country and do not look back at the directions from the Washington regional committee.

                    By the way, as soon as they began to put on these signs in Russia, the 90s ended right away and the economy got better.
                    1. Old scoop
                      Old scoop 10 February 2014 18: 31
                      -1
                      As you have everything is simple - put on a pointer. Do not compare soft to warm. Ukraine was played in 2004, as if by sheet music. Now also happening.
                      Think of the Stabilization Fund - Rollback to America. The USSR collapsed and now the United States orders music and everyone is dancing to it. Belarus and Kazakhstan remained with Russia, hence their relative independence in politics and economics, and we had our own opinion and way :(
                2. Old scoop
                  Old scoop 10 February 2014 18: 20
                  +2
                  This education has been given to you. Yes, the authorities do not care about education, the main topic has cut the country and the spin of the business. Not to textbooks to them. Something the Russians were not very indignant at the shooting of the parliament and the surrender by Yeltsin of everyone and everything, and here there is such an interest in the history textbook. They paid a grant to a bureaucrat and here you have a textbook. A friend is engaged in the purchase of waste paper, so history books are not rented to schools and warehouses. They do not have time to distribute how new, redrawn and supplemented come.
                  After Kuchma, they brought the quasimode of the pro-Western and off and on. They gasped from him - Yanukovych came. Of the two evils, the lesser was chosen. Or do you think under Tymoshenko would be better? When pimply came to power, Julia was already bursting with joy on the podium, she could not speak calmly, it was evident that such an orgasm had not yet been in her life. Then I realized - Ukraine was gone.
              2. O_RUS
                O_RUS 10 February 2014 21: 22
                0
                Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                So do not kick Ukraine, that its power was suddenly not very noble, patriotic ...


                Well, not suddenly, but it was, is and will be
          2. Charley
            Charley 10 February 2014 11: 03
            +4
            You know, I’m not going to speak for your people, but your power has been acting like a prostitute for 20 years, and the power is changing, but the behavior remains the same, we will pay the debts, we will not, when they need the Russian brothers, and when they don’t have to not brothers, so you’ll be offended here because you have the power that you deserve because you yourself have chosen. Have lunch and start to wet Bender’s nits, then maybe Russia will help you and you’ll be sitting on the ass, and we should save you like that won't go
            1. Ivan_Ivanov
              Ivan_Ivanov 10 February 2014 11: 20
              +5
              request Agree, it would be strange to hear in 41-43gg. indignation that the Ukrainian government is not pro-Russian, not pro-Soviet ...
              offended here you need to take it upon yourself because the power you have is the one you deserve because you yourself chose

              laughing laughing laughing laughing

              Have lunch and start to water Bender’s nits then ...

              Judging by the fact that the Maidan has turned into a marginal bunch, and in Ukraine the West can’t either plant its full puppet or unleash a bloody massacre (which you are pushing for the West), the Ukrainian government acts under the sensitive and attentive leadership of Russia.
              And we will definitely press the Bandera trash to the nail and they will either flee to "sunny" London, or they will be responsible by the LAW.
              1. Фокус
                Фокус 10 February 2014 21: 52
                +1
                Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
                And we will definitely press the Bandera trash to the nail and they will either flee to "sunny" London, or they will be responsible by the LAW.

                “God help you, brothers!” But if you call me something.
        2. siberalt
          siberalt 10 February 2014 18: 19
          +1
          To surrender to Ukraine itself is from her birth. Pride will not allow otherwise.
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      2. domokl
        domokl 10 February 2014 08: 54
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And anyway, what the hell they get, Putin will not give Ukraine.

        Optimists Pruvet !!!!! laughing Wow, Sasha. Well, it’s in vain ... Putin doesn’t need Western Ukraine at all. Having received it, we will get partisans again ... Why ... But this same Western Ukraine doesn’t need the EU either. They don’t really like the Nazis. And the boys are already They won’t stop. They will vomit alive.
        So for the people, the choice is a little different than the author says, either a federation or a confederation.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 February 2014 09: 25
          +3
          Quote: domokl
          Putin absolutely does not need western Ukraine.

          You won’t believe it, but I don’t need it either - nobody needs it at all laughing
          Quote: domokl
          .And the boys will not stop. They will tear alive.

          In any case, the denouement will come, the only question is. Now the USA is pouring the Bandera openly, but I don’t think they will like it and then they will tear, they will be primarily their comrades in Maidan Yatsenyuk and Klitschko.
          Quote: domokl
          either a federation or a confederation.

          Sanya, what are you talking about? What now will change in Ukraine changes in the system is nothing. All of these same active persons will rule.
          Hello to the pessimists laughing
          1. AVV
            AVV 10 February 2014 14: 21
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: domokl
            Putin absolutely does not need western Ukraine.

            You won’t believe it, but I don’t need it either - nobody needs it at all laughing

            Yes, because there are some parasites, sitting on the ridge in the southeast and driving in the southeast !!! These are subsidized areas, they never worked and will not work !!! And to them, by and large, what’s going to happen on the drum with the industry of the southeast and the work of the population, take them out and lay Europe so that they can quietly force and resell everything in a row !!!
    2. Arhj
      Arhj 10 February 2014 09: 26
      +2
      Quote: Igor39
      Even if they help with money, then under such percentages and conditions that mother does not grieve!

      Will not help! Neither the EU nor the United States has enough money that Ukraine needs. Money is also required to carry out reforms, but where to get it. And after the reforms, at best, they will throw the bone in the form of what they promised for the association, and they will still shout that Yanukovych is to blame, that the reforms were badly carried out. And most likely they will not give anything - on paper, no one promised anything, and you cannot sew words to the deed. And by the end of the reforms, there may be other people both in the EU and in the US, but here "with whom you negotiated, so ask"
  2. makarov
    makarov 10 February 2014 08: 17
    +3
    "Of course, in theory, the 'Marshall plan' for Ukraine is possible, but in practice it is extremely difficult to implement it, because a lot of funds will be required to inject into the Ukrainian economy, and where does the EU get it from?"

    Although I live with the author in the same region, but I cannot understand what he calls the "Ukrainian economy"?
    If 98% of the industry is in the hands of the oligarchs, it is only natural that a proportionate amount of the economy is in their hands. And only what can be torn off from working and small traders in the form of draconian taxes comes into the sector of the state economy.
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 February 2014 09: 02
      +3
      Hello Pavel. It seems to me not particularly important who owns the enterprises if they work for the Ukrainian people and the Ukrainian state. There are jobs, taxes are paid.
      Another thing is that a simple injection of money will only lead to the next cut and distribution of handouts. The industry itself will not even budge. Companies need orders, they need prospects. Otherwise, no one will buy new machines. Build new workshops or recruit new workers.
      1. makarov
        makarov 10 February 2014 09: 37
        +5
        "It seems to me not very important who owns the enterprises, if they work for the Ukrainian people and the Ukrainian state."

        So, after all, the people and the state, unfortunately, have not united anything for a long time. These are the opposite allegories for the past 22 years.
  3. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 10 February 2014 08: 39
    +1
    Bluffing is a cool thing, if you know how to use it. True, over time, applying this trick is becoming more difficult - there is no faith. In Ukraine, so many fools or outright traitors just make a lot of noise and do not let ordinary Ukrainians think with their own heads.
  4. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 10 February 2014 08: 55
    +2
    The expert also noted that at present, the East and South-East of the country do not have a clearly developed ideology that could oppose the radical ideas of the West. Therefore, residents of these regions have several options: either join the West, or become victims of a coup, which began to spread to the eastern regions.


    I agree to all 100% of the Ukrainian front and the attempts of individual small organizations are more like convulsions than resistance. The Ukrainian front, probably the project of the oligarchs in general, so that you can bargain in Kiev. The destiny of the east and south of Ukraine is to hobble both for itself and for western Ukraine no matter what. One can safely admit that the independent Ukraine project failed. Soon, not only will they fall to the west, but they will become Uniates. East and South did not have the spirit to throw brown scum from the Maidan and is unlikely to ever be enough. But you can jump with mumbled Cossacks and with flags in the Ukrainian front - at least something.
    1. allexx83
      allexx83 11 February 2014 01: 00
      -2
      I support! The lack of a normal ideology capable of uniting Russians is a PROBLEM. Hepa and other characters add grotesque character. They survived - a classic p.a.kh.a.t.yy on the guard of the "Russian world". And laughter and sin. The Ukrainian state, created in the "spite of the pits" format, is flawed from the very beginning. As for the Cossacks - nevertheless, they went out in Lugansk and showed the Benderstat that "... there is such a party." You are right, at least something
  5. Name
    Name 10 February 2014 09: 01
    +6
    "... The West offers Ukraine money, free elections and the prospect of European integration."
    It’s time to think about the European integration already ...
  6. calocha
    calocha 10 February 2014 10: 10
    +2
    Only the Customs Union will save Ukraine!
    1. shark
      shark 10 February 2014 10: 58
      +6
      Ukraine will be saved only by a full and unconditional entry into the Russian Federation. Moreover, interestingly, this entry will save even before the heap and the Russian Federation. This is the most optimal and most fantastic scenario. Therefore, we can say with complete certainty that Ukraine will not be saved. Troubles for a long time (until citizens will not get it) and, as an option, the subsequent collapse of Ukraine into western and eastern.
  7. basil200
    basil200 10 February 2014 10: 55
    +2
    You can such an option, western Ukraine receives 15 million from the West, and eastern Ukraine its 15 million from Putin. A total of 30 lyam, not bad. =))
  8. Niki
    Niki 10 February 2014 10: 55
    +3
    It’s cool that all these talkers from the EU, who loudly declare their unity with all sorts of different opposition, very quickly leave their posts. Almost all of them left the race in a short period after the Vilnius meeting, and many of them personally came to the Maidan, and then lost their authority upon expiration. Those of them who are on the air now - they too will soon leave their posts. In fact, they only give promises and will not be responsible for anything, and they won’t fulfill promises either, i.e. those who are replacing them have not yet rushed to say something loudly.
    1. skeptic
      skeptic 10 February 2014 20: 24
      0
      Quote: Niki
      It’s cool that all these talkers from the EU, who loudly declare their unity with all sorts of different opposition, very quickly leave their posts. Almost all of them left the race in a short period after the Vilnius meeting, and many of them personally came to the Maidan, and then lost their authority upon expiration. Those of them who are on the air now - they too will soon leave their posts. In fact, they only give promises and will not be responsible for anything, and they won’t fulfill promises either, i.e. those who are replacing them have not yet rushed to say something loudly.


      No less fun is the fact that a wave is rising in the governments of the EU countries to limit the influx of migrants from the eastern aisles, so what awaits Westerners in the future, even if they manage to lie under the EU?
      Yes, only the USA sees in Ukraine a prototype of a wild field (the territory of scorched earth), a constant source of tension for the enemy, i.e. for all of us. And spin Bandera with Wahhabis against Russia-so it's all oil.
  9. kaktus
    kaktus 10 February 2014 11: 17
    +1
    "Thus, the Ukrainian people will have to decide which is more important in this case: the promises of Western politicians about the illusory possibility of European integration or the real loans received from Moscow."
    ... or still work in the real economy of their country ... yes
  10. VadimSt
    VadimSt 10 February 2014 11: 20
    +1
    I, in some kind of "Slavic insight" of Yanukovych do not believe! No matter how it turns out that "the big Slav is dancing his aunt," and the EU "will lead to sleep."
  11. oscar
    oscar 10 February 2014 11: 31
    +1
    Their reforms are known - the democratic privatization of state-owned enterprises. And if they give money, then half of these funds the Ukrainian authorities will be able to spend only on goods from Europe ... and don’t go to the grandmother here.
  12. Kuvabatake
    Kuvabatake 10 February 2014 11: 50
    +1
    And who needs other people's problems ???
  13. konvalval
    konvalval 10 February 2014 11: 51
    +1
    Only Ukraine can help Ukraine, if it changes its mind and follows the right path.
  14. olviko
    olviko 10 February 2014 12: 10
    +3
    The game is in full swing, star-and-striped strip over Ukraine with all their might.
  15. Egoza
    Egoza 10 February 2014 12: 23
    0
    Well, while the West is going to wait for a new government ... and we are slowly .... but surely ....

    "Last week, several events of particular importance for the country's economy took place. If you highlight the main ones, it is worth noting the signing of the so-called “road map” with Russia in the field of bilateral trade and the NBU's actual transition to flexible exchange rate formation of the hryvnia. The first should put an end to the so-called "trade wars", the second brings the foreign exchange market in line with reality. Let's start with Russian-Ukrainian relations. According to Valery Muntiyan, Government Commissioner for Cooperation with the Russian Federation, CIS countries, the Eurasian Economic Community and other regional associations, problematic issues related to crossing and customs clearance of goods at the Ukrainian-Russian customs border can be considered settled today.
    This information was published on February 6 by the press service of the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade of Ukraine .... more details here:
    http://www.versii.com/news/296888/
  16. Sars
    Sars 10 February 2014 12: 57
    +1
    Quote: Arhj
    Neither the EU nor the USA have the money in such volumes that Ukraine requires.

    Do they have Russia?
    They gave three billion - not enough for two weeks.
    But in general it turns out - Russia finances both politicians-embezzlers and fascist-zapadentsev!
    If you give money, so specific people for specific cases.
  17. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 10 February 2014 13: 34
    +1
    Who will help Ukraine? Yes, except for Russia, no one is going to. The guys from the EU and the states are sitting and licking their lips seeing what market, labor market (or rather laborers) can be grabbed. Measures need to be taken urgently, and without Yanukovych, what kind of leader he is if he couldn’t disperse a bunch of banderlogs. But here’s nobody needs it — so it’s a fact, Hungarians, Romanians and Poles will tear off their pieces, but the panes of Yatsenyuk and Tyagnibok at the expense of everything. And it is a shame for UKRAINE!
  18. philosopher
    philosopher 10 February 2014 14: 06
    +1
    I don’t know how anyone, but the impression of this article and of the events that are taking place once again, I have one thing: Ukraine, as a prostitute, again chooses whom to lie to! He chooses a long time, wants to sell more expensive. And throughout its history, this situation has been repeated more than once. She had Lithuanians, and Turks, and Tatars, and Poles, and Russia. And here we are all sitting and thinking: WHO WILL HELP Ukraine? Who will take it for maintenance? But is it necessary to help, maybe Ukraine should already do something in its own interests?
    PEOPLE IN THE EAST UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, BUT CAN'T DO ANYTHING !!! It does not work legally, but illegally - Maidan ends. Again, the mentality is different in the west and east. So can it really launch federalism? At first, economic, and if this does not help to rectify the situation, it may split up. After all, Czechoslovakia was divided into two parts and exists not much worse than what it was before. And then join, with the consent of the host country, to whom to the east, and to whom, alas, to the west?
  19. Ross
    Ross 10 February 2014 16: 42
    +1
    Quote: Charlie
    You know, I’m not going to speak for your people, but your power has been acting like a prostitute for 20 years, and the power is changing, but the behavior remains the same, we will pay the debts, we will not, when they need the Russian brothers, and when they don’t have to not brothers, so you’ll be offended here because you have the power that you deserve because you yourself have chosen. Have lunch and start to wet Bender’s nits, then maybe Russia will help you and you’ll be sitting on the ass, and we should save you like that won't go

    The role of personality in history is great. Well, the Ukrainian brothers do not yet have But Father, a true leader. While. Much in the behavior of the average Ukrainian is a consequence of hundreds of years of West-East advancement, psychological subversive work against Russia. Why blame the brothers for this? Power is always a reflection of the mood of the people. See for yourself how many Ukrainians are carried away by the Western European "freebie"! Imagine today, in Russia, how our people would look at those who go to the US embassy for instructions, and in Ukraine they don't seem to notice. If only they gave money and took them to Europe. Freebie prevailed over the mind of many. And here is the freedom for the respective "leaders".
    It's time for the Ukrainian brothers to grow up.
  20. siberalt
    siberalt 10 February 2014 18: 14
    +3
    Igor39:
    "Even if they help with money, then at such interest and conditions that mom do not cry!"

    Even if they prove that it’s indecent to eavesdrop? Doesn’t it look like a fiasco?
  21. captain
    captain 10 February 2014 19: 37
    +1
    Comrades Ukrainians, believe your friends from the EU and the USA, they will help you; modernize your industry and agriculture in order to create competitors for yourself and send your voters to work in Ukraine. The US will close its Boeing and transfer to your AN. Destroy their car factories in order to buy your KRAZ and ZAZ vehicles. Do not trust the holes and give back our money quickly, the West will give more and at lower interest.
  22. alone
    alone 10 February 2014 19: 49
    +2
    Quote: captain
    fellow Ukrainians, believe your friends from the EU and the USA, they will help you; modernize your industry and agriculture in order to create competitors for yourself and send your voters to work in Ukraine. The USA will close their Boeing and transfer to your AN. Destroy their car factories in order to buy your KRAZ and ZAZ vehicles. Do not trust the pits and give back our money quickly, the West will give more and at lower interest.


    Yuri, they don’t convince you so)) You say so as if Russia will move to the Cossacks))). Let Ukraine and Ukrainian citizens listen to the call of their hearts and do as they want. But when choosing a path you have to consider one thing. If their choice erroneous, let them answer for this themselves.
  23. Stinger
    Stinger 10 February 2014 21: 40
    +2
    “- You are a true friend of the fatherland! - solemnly said Ostap, washing down the odorous kebab with sweet kipiani. “Five hundred rubles can save the giant of thought.”
    “Tell me,” Kislyarsky asked plaintively, “and two hundred rubles cannot save the giant of thought?”
    Ostap could not stand it and under the table enthusiastically kicked Ippolit Matveyevich with his foot.
    “I think,” said Ippolit Matveyevich, “that bargaining is inappropriate here!”
  24. I am a Russian
    I am a Russian 10 February 2014 23: 24
    +2
    Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
    And we’ll definitely press the Bandera trash to the nail


    more than one decade, a similar phrase sounds but ...
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 10 February 2014 23: 30
      +1
      It was necessary during the Second World War to kill the fascists-Bandera, otherwise their descendants today "itch" hands.
  25. Nikotin13
    Nikotin13 11 February 2014 00: 20
    +2
    If my glorious ancestor, Prince Igor (The Word of Igor’s Regiment) knew that he was Ukrainian, he would die again. belay
  26. I am a Russian
    I am a Russian 11 February 2014 08: 18
    +2
    Quote: ia-ai00
    It was necessary during the Second World War to finish the Nazis-Bandera,


    good