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"Grieved" rights!

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"Grieved" rights!After the “black” Thursday of 16 January, my life turned into a solid hell. And all because of the "barbaric" infringement of my constitutional rights. Judge for yourself how hard it is for me to lead my former way of life


Earlier, I got up in the morning, had a snack, put a mask on my face, a helmet on my head, went out into the yard, and there already stood a bunch of like-minded friends with cars. We sit down and cavalcade (that is, motorcade) travel through the cities and villages of our Ukraine, most often in Galicia, Bukovina, Volyn.

We stop in the village on the square, break up the tent camp, build the stage, install sound amplifiers and under the brave "Oh, apple ..." and no less incendiary "Khava Nagyla" collect the population. The main goal is to preserve the unity of the state, which for several years now the Donetsk gang has been trying to destroy, in which, including the Donetsk region, Lugansk, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov and Zaporozhye bandyugans are included. At the rally, we always tell all the information that we will be able to gather up - about local officials in the offices, about the judges in foreign cars, about policemen in law, about prosecutors in corruption. We call everyone, especially those who have weapon, stand up to protect the integrity of the powers.

After the rally, we sing about that glory and will have not yet died, for which we swear to put not only our sinful body, but also the immortal soul. After that, we tumble into the court, do not give the judges a word to say, and some of the most obstinate and pour over different liquids (so that we know our people!). We disassemble the tents and the stage and move on.

And now we have been banned by the oppressors of the Ukrainian people, and more specifically by individual deputies who passed such cruel laws, the President who signed them without listening to the demands of the entire Ukrainian people standing on Euromaidan, and the editors of the newspapers Golos Ukrainy and Uryadovy kur'ur ”, Published these laws contrary to the requirements of individual deputies from the“ Batkivshchyna ”.

And now I’ll go on to the very word itself.

Let's analyze together what I wrote above in the ironic preface. First of all, we will discuss the notorious "anti-democratic" laws adopted by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine 16 January 2014 of the year.

Their adoption, signing by the President and publication in national newspapers outraged both euromaidan “politicians” and, unfortunately, individual lawyers, who were somehow not very well-known, who in their address to their colleagues and the whole society regarding “violations of the rights of citizens by new laws adopted by the 16 Rada of January and being a challenge to the democratic rule of law and the civilized foundations of the life of the entire Ukrainian people, "said literally the following:" The exercise of these rights and freedoms is not subject to any restrictions other than that are necessary in a democratic society, established on the basis of a general social consensus in the context of an effective separation of powers, and are fully recognized by the community of free nations of the world. ”

The only thing in the mentioned appeal of lawyers, with which I fully agree, is that "the laws of January 16 became the" power response "to the two-month protests of the Ukrainian people in defense of democratic values." All the rest is in circulation, as they say in such cases, from the evil one.

From nothing else and outrage of our European and American "friends". Thus, EU Commissioner for Enlargement and Neighborhood Policy, Stefan Füle, who has recently been infused in Ukraine to annoyance, expressed his concern about the initiatives of representatives of the Party of Regions: “He is very concerned about new laws that restrict freedoms and contradict European aspirations and obligations of Ukraine.”

And Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights Nils Muzhnieks is extremely “concerned about Ukraine’s amendments restricting human rights, including freedom of speech, assembly, and association. I urge the President to veto them. ”

But the EU High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy, Catherine Ashton, is altogether “deeply concerned about the events in Kiev. Some parts of the legislation restricting the basic rights of Ukrainian citizens were hurriedly carried out with obvious disrespect for parliamentary procedures and democratic principles. ”

Well, the US Department of State made a significant contribution to taming Ukraine: “Some of these laws will restrict the right to protest peacefully and exercise freedom of speech, they will restrain independent media and inhibit the work of NGOs. If Ukraine truly aspires to a European future, it must protect and promote the universal democratic principles and values ​​underlying a free Europe and not allow them to be systematically dismantled. ”

From him, the evil one, and all the speeches of the three-headed leader of the "opposition" with respect to these laws.

And even more so from the crafty - and above all and most likely, from his money - there goes the submission of these laws by our “democratic, objective and unbiased” media, which make it possible to convince the people of their illegality and unconstitutionality.

The calculation of all these "truth-seekers and fighters for the people" is very simple - to drive into the heads of people that which benefits very few in Ukraine and many in the United States and Western Europe. And this is not so difficult to do, since very few of our citizens have the opportunity to familiarize themselves with the text of these laws and interpret them correctly. For all the others, I propose a summary of some of the laws adopted by 16 in January and the same brief interpretation of them.

The Law of Ukraine "On Amendments to Articles 297 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (regarding liability for desecrating or destroying monuments erected in memory of those who fought against Nazism during the Second World War, Soviet liberators, members of the guerrilla movement, underground fighters and victims of Nazi persecution and also internationalist warriors and peacekeepers. ”It is a question of the fact that for the abuse of the grave the punishment is in the form of a fine, or an arrest for 6 months, or imprisonment to 3 years. Abuse of the mass grave or the grave of the Unknown Soldier - imprisonment from 3 to 5 years. For a group of people - from 4 to 7 years. Well, who among us is against it, especially considering that it’s not so Rare such cases, especially in Western Ukraine?

The Law of Ukraine “On Amendments to the Criminal Code of Ukraine on Responsibility for Denying or Justifying the Crimes of Fascism” supplemented by the Criminal Code with Article 436-1, which criminalizes the public denial or justification of the crimes of fascism, propaganda of neo-Nazi ideology, production and / or distribution of materials, in which the crimes of the fascists and their accomplices are justified, as well as for publicly denying or justifying the crimes of fascism against humanity committed in the year World War II, in particular, the crimes committed by the Wafen SS organization, its subordinate structures (in particular, it included the SS division "Galicia", recruited from Ukrainian volunteers during the Second World War, and later formally incorporated into the Ukrainian national army subordinate to the Ukrainian National Committee), those who fought against the anti-Hitler coalition and collaborated with the fascist invaders, as well as the propaganda of neo-Nazi ideology, the production and / or distribution of material s in which the crimes of the fascists and their accomplices are justified. All this is punishable by a fine from 500 to 1000 of non-taxable minimum incomes of citizens (today the non-taxable minimum is 17 hrn.) Or imprisonment up to 2 years. Who is opposed to our homegrown neo-Nazis?

The Law of Ukraine “On Amendments to Article 197 of the Tax Code of Ukraine on Exemption from Value Added Tax Taxation on Import of Natural Gas into the Customs Territory of Ukraine”. Who is to the detriment if, as a result, the cost of gas and tariffs for heating and hot water supply are reduced?

The 3879 Act, which introduces the 151-1 section of the Criminal Code, criminalizing defamation and extremist activities. According to this article, libel, that is, the deliberate dissemination of knowingly false information discrediting the honor and dignity of another person, is punishable by a fine of up to 50 non-taxable minimum incomes of citizens, or community service for up to 200 hours, or correctional labor for up to 1.

Slander in a work that is publicly demonstrated in the media or on the Internet, as well as committed by a person previously convicted of defamation, is punished with a fine from 50 to 300 non-taxable minimum incomes of citizens, or community service for a period from 150 to 240 hours, or correctional labor for up to 1.

But slander, coupled with the accusation of committing a grave or especially grave crime, is punishable by correctional labor for a term from 1 to 2 years or by restriction of freedom for up to 2 years.

What is so bad about this, that worried the “world community” (in quotes, because, I am sure, the world community has no idea about these laws of Ukraine)? Why in Ukraine it is impossible to introduce responsibility for the fact that in the legislation of most European countries is a criminal offense. For example, paragraph 90 of the German Criminal Code criminalizes “denigrating the federal president”, and paragraph 188 imposes defamation of politicians with punishment for what was done before 5 years in prison.

Probably, the fact is that our “politicians” pronounce every day, while our mass media replicate unverified and frankly false information, which is a direct slander against certain political figures, and do not bear any responsibility for this. And then suddenly a taboo on a lie.

The 341 article of the Criminal Code of Ukraine was supplemented with the 2 part of the following content: “Blocking buildings or structures that ensure the activities of state authorities, local governments, associations of citizens in order to interfere with the normal operation of enterprises, institutions and organizations is punishable by restraint of liberty for up to 5 years or imprisonment for the same period. " Moreover, our legislators have not invented the bicycle - for “extremist activity” responsibility exists in all EU countries and in the USA without exception.

Part 1 of the 343 CC article is stated as follows: “Illegal collection, storage, use, destruction, dissemination of confidential information about a law enforcement officer, employee of the state executive service, their close relatives or family members, distribution of materials or information that are clearly offensive and demonstrate defiant disregard for a law enforcement officer or a public executive officer, pressure, intimidation or any form of influence on a law enforcement officer or a state executive service employee committed to retaliate, obstruct his / her duties or to make an unlawful decision, or public appeals or distribution of materials calling for such actions, is punishable by a fine of 200 to 400 non-taxable minimum incomes of citizens, either by correctional labor for up to 1 of the year, or by arrest for up to 6 months. ”

Part of the 1 article 376 now sounds like this: “Illegally collecting, storing, using, destroying, distributing confidential information about a judge, his close relatives or family members, distributing materials or information that are clearly offensive and show defiant disregard for a judge or justice , pressure, intimidation or interference in any form with the activities of a judge, committed for the purpose of revenge, obstructing the judge’s performance of official duties or seeking An unjust decision, or public appeals or distribution of materials calling for such actions, is punishable by a fine from 300 to 500 of non-taxable minimum incomes of citizens, or correctional labor for up to 2 years, or arrest for up to 6 months, or imprisonment for before 2 years.

The law also contains other regulations on the status and security of judges. In accordance with the amendments to the Law of Ukraine “On State Protection of Court and Law Enforcement Agencies”, its action extends not only to judges, but also to court staff, as well as their close relatives and family members, who are husband, wife, father, mother, stepfather, stepmother, son, daughter, stepson, stepdaughter, brother, sister, grandfather, grandmother, great-grandfather, great-grandmother, grandson, granddaughter, great-grandson, great-granddaughter, person under guardianship or trusteeship, as well as persons who live together everyday life, have mutual rights and obligations, including persons who live together but are not married.

In accordance with Article 134 of the Law of Ukraine “On the Judicial System and the Status of Judges”, a judge has the right to provide the means of protection and mobile devices with the warning about the danger provided to him by the internal affairs bodies, as well as to equip housing with security and fire alarm systems at the expense of the state budget the procedure established by the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine. In turn, judicial administrators for the performance of their duties are granted the right to use special means used during the protection of public order, the list and procedure for which is determined by the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine (part 6 article 153 of the Law of Ukraine "On the Judicial System and Status of Judges") .

And who among us is against restoring order during football matches and increasing responsibility for such offenses? Who does not want to be responsible for administrative violations in the field of road safety, recorded in automatic mode, except for violators? For the most part, these are individuals clothed with one or another powerful indulgence.

We were intimidated by the fact that now wedding convoys are banned. Oh, how guards are cunning, how exquisitely powder the brains of an ordinary man in the street. Read carefully how this is set out in the law: “A person driving a vehicle performs movement in columns consisting of more than five vehicles without agreeing on the conditions and procedure of movement with the relevant division of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, which ensures traffic safety, which resulted in obstacles to road traffic - imposes a fine from 40 to 50 of non-taxable minimum incomes of citizens or the deprivation of the right to drive vehicles for the term from 1 to 2 years, with or without withdrawal of the vehicle from its owner. ” And not so often wedding processions consist of more than five cars.

Who is hampered by the rule of law that provides for responsibility for contempt of court in the form of failure to appear in court on a subpoena or attempt to kill a judge, for which administrative responsibility is established in the form of a fine from 340 to 5100 UAH. or arrest up to 15 day? How many people will be against the fact that in case of a failure to appear in court 2 times it is possible to carry out a trial without a failure to appear? This is important now, when so many defendants and defendants are constantly refusing to appear in court, thereby delaying consideration of the case for an indefinite period.

But what else outraged our “defenders”: this is an amendment to the 1 part of the 1851 article of the Administrative Offenses Code of Ukraine, after which it became: “Violation of the established procedure for organizing or holding meetings, rallies, street processions and demonstrations by their participant, including about state bodies, local governments, institutions, enterprises, organizations, housing or other property of a person ”. So, all states of the EU and the USA are allowed such a rule, but Ukraine is not? Especially after we have recently become extremely relevant due to the fact that now the concept of “peaceful assembly of citizens” has begun to fall under the heading of meetings that “peaceful” cannot be called. Everyone sees this in reports from Euromaidan, where events clearly got out of control of such a different trinity and began to look more like unbridled hooligan-extremist antics of frenzied idlers.

And how do you assess the "conversation" of former Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko with his former subordinate colonel, to whom the first one pokes his finger in the face and publicly sends obscenities, insults the latter. If it were in the UK, then Yurik would have grabbed the 2 month of prison there, and in Italy, for such a public insult to a person in service, would go to prison on the 3 year. In Germany, turning to a police officer for “you” is regarded as an insult, and a drunk Yura would have to pay a fine of 600 euros, and waving his hands in front of a policeman would pay up to 1000 euros.

And those who insult a policeman abroad get full: in France - arrest for a period of days from 15 to 3 months or a fine of euro 500, in the USA for a strike or attack on a policeman - imprisonment for a period from 3 to 10 years jail or xnumx thousand dollars fine.

Why are people in Europe not outraged by the fact that in France the occupation of the roadway for any purpose and any demonstrations is prohibited and that if this is revealed, the violators are first ordered to disperse, and in the event of non-compliance, forceful dispersal follows? So France is allowed, but Ukraine is not?

You can still write a lot about all the bias of the opposition, but does not allow a place in the newspaper, so it's time to go to the AFTERWORD.

I met on the Internet such a frank and logical comment from a reader: “I don’t see the emphasis on rights and freedoms. All according to European patterns ... Well, maybe there is something in the texture. But parliamentary lawyers, it seems, are not from the gate. Corrected by amending the vote, since dig byaku. "

From all of the above, only one conclusion can be reached: the legislative norms adopted by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on January 16, 2014, are European standards. And since these laws have already come into effect, it would be time for our legitimate authority (the President was elected in the process of nationwide elections, the Cabinet of Ministers was established in strict accordance with the Constitution) to proceed to their steady implementation. Otherwise, not only Kiev will be destroyed, but the whole of Ukraine. When you look at all the events on the Euromaidan, then involuntarily you begin to believe in predictions about the collapse of Ukraine on the 2 or 3 parts, especially if you take into account the rigid statement of the ARC parliament, which expressed the will of the entire population of the peninsula. Also, the will of the majority of residents express and regional councils of the eastern regions.

But whose will is expressed by Klitschko, Tyagnibok and Yatsenyuk? Who among us gave them such authority, when and in what form? But they, considering us all to be headless, shout at every corner that they act on behalf of the entire Ukrainian people, on behalf of the whole people (did the whole Ukrainian people gather on the Euromaidan? And who then all those who are not going to "peacefully" jail to Kiev, and really works peacefully for the good of others and the state) require a change of government. Who authorized Tyagnibok openly to invite all owners of firearms to go to Kiev in order to achieve the unity of Ukraine by “peaceful” means?

It seems to me that they were given powers in the EU and the USA, where they regularly go by themselves, from where unsuited emissaries constantly come to Kiev with money and new instructions. Isn't it time for our authorities to close the door (border) in front of them?

And finally, CONCLUSION, which can be done by reading another rule of the new law (which for some reason the opposition members are modestly silent about) simplifying the procedure for removing parliamentary immunity, which makes withdrawals from many real (almost written out of habit by the people). stopped - judging by their words and deeds, they are not popular, but anti-people) of the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada of defensive “armor” and bringing to deserved criminal responsibility for all their atrocities, ranging from gross insults and slander to the President, the prime minister Minister, officials of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Prosecutor General’s Office, and up to an attempt at a coup d'état and the overthrow of the legitimate government.

That is the true reason for their indignation and the demands for the abolition of these norms. Far from the share of the Ukrainian people, and they protect their own skin so zealously and aggressively. And it is very sad that they are among us, ordinary citizens, those who blindly trust them and, supporting them thoughtlessly, defend their selfish interests, including the overt desire to sit in the presidential chair.

Maybe it's time to think, good people?
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  1. AVV
    AVV 8 February 2014 22: 02
    +29
    Maidanutim’s own shirt is closer to the body, earning money generously handed out by the US embassy and various NGOs, they essentially sell and betray their state, their people, without thinking about the consequences !!! USA and Europe, it’s profitable to drive Ukraine into the Middle Ages, look at Syria, V which destroyed cities, destroyed production, fights with the so-called opposition are going on !!! Countries, like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, were thrown back decades ago !!! And America will help unsecured candy wrappers, dollars and pick up for this toilet paper , resources of democratized states !!! Here, in this scenario, Western countries are trying to push Ukraine!
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 9 February 2014 07: 23
      +25
      Quote: AVV
      they essentially sell and betray their state, their people!

      Oh, and they definitely think about the people? It seems they only think about themselves. In general, the speeches of these maydanuty people are very similar to
      1. Arhj
        Arhj 9 February 2014 08: 20
        +12
        Quote: ele1285
        Oh, and they definitely think about the people? It seems they only think about themselves. In general, the speeches of these maydanuty people are very similar to

        They think about the people, oh how they think, only they have, like an old joke, "the list of people is attached."
        Their people are the one who yells "Glory to Ukarine", and who does not agree - the one "b"
        1. domokl
          domokl 9 February 2014 09: 04
          +26
          It’s nice to read an article written by a pro. It’s fine on the case. The opposition in Ukraine fell like hens. On the one hand, everything seems to be for Europe. On the other hand, European laws somehow do not provide freedom in Ukrainian.
          And the people? And what is a people? For some, people are those who have been maidaning for someone’s money for the third month, for others, those who are protecting administrative buildings from the maidan in the east of the country, for third people are those who plow and silent in a rag.
          So any ideology can safely rely on the people ... The choice is wide enough ...
        2. densh
          densh 9 February 2014 12: 01
          +20
          Quote: Arhj
          They think about the people, oh how they think, only they have, like an old joke, "the list of people is attached."

          On the Facebook social network, a scandal erupted with another photo from the Khanenko family of “Svobodovets”.

          The son of the people's deputy Svyatoslav Khanenko, who shocked the Internet a couple of months ago with his nude photo, and now performs the duties of "head doctor of the Maidan," posted on the Internet a photo certificate of his tour of Parisian restaurants.

          The main accusations are that while the deputies from Svoboda urge other children to go under the bullets to sweep away the enemies of Ukraine, their own children heroically sweep away countless expensive oysters.

          The post with oysters, however, was erased by its author, which prompted a caustic comment from the Maidan activist Tatiana Bliznyuk: “Why would a person be ashamed of his wanderings? Are we communists to be against the sweet life? ... We are not socialists in order to light up for social justice ... But the picture from the restaurant, which was posted by the major, was distributed to about a hundred people after Tatyana Montyan reposted the traveler's photo with the following message: "While the passionaries are running around with cobblestones and cocktails and reeling his time for mass riots, son of a deputy from "Svolota" Khanenko hangs out in Paris and eats oysters. And he does not even hesitate to boast of it in a blozhik. "
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 9 February 2014 19: 22
            +4
            And the little hands of those offended are all in calluses from the labors for the good of the people of Ukraine, and their little hands are more from thoughts and fortune-telling about the fate of Nenko-Ukraine. bully
        3. ele1285
          ele1285 9 February 2014 14: 26
          +7
          Quote: Arhj
          They think of the people, oh how they think

          Fat to Heroes, Hero - Fat
        4. Roman 1977
          Roman 1977 9 February 2014 18: 02
          +5
          Somehow like this...
      2. Denis
        Denis 9 February 2014 09: 48
        +42
        Quote: ele1285
        Oh, and they definitely think about the people? It seems they only think about themselves. In general, the speeches of these maydanuty people are very similar to
        1. Sergh
          Sergh 9 February 2014 10: 32
          +35
          I liked the rhyme on the site "political review", I copy it here. Cool.

          I have been abducted by Russian special forces
          Author Eva Merkuryeva.


          I have been abducted by Russian special forces.
          I was in the dungeons, chained, cried.
          The fact that the Russians understood immediately:
          Each "okal" and each "akal".

          I was not dressed for the weather.
          Starving. I lost ten grams.
          And the special forces ate Russian vodka
          And threatened to hang me.

          The balalaika sang angrily
          And the special forces drove round dances.
          Crucified me every now and then
          These are Russians. Here!

          They gave me a shift.
          I am all in wounds, but strong in spirit!
          And they beat the dumplings,
          And then they cut off my ear

          And they gave it to the bear -
          He is inseparable from special forces.
          I do not rave ... No ... I do not rave ...
          I am conscious, but tormented.

          How much health I lost!
          And I’m not ashamed to admit it.
          On the T-shirt are streams of blood
          And on the belly no traces are visible.

          This is now being beaten in Russian,
          Wrapping a bat in a quilted jacket,
          Well, after boots, to the load,
          That generally threw back hooves.

          What they wanted - I did not understand right away,
          Life scrolled film:
          I am abducted by Russian special forces,
          Special forces cuts the ear with an accent.

          Oh and the fighters’s look is unkind,
          Fists are stopudovye weights.
          I smell - it smells like the Kurgan SOBR,
          So, they will wet in the toilet.

          And the bear howls in the corner
          It got wet in my pants to horror.
          I looked closely - two bears.
          Reached the damned Putin!

          How did I go out and how did I escape?
          How did the special forces outfit?
          Chimes fight on Spasskaya tower
          They made them distract for a moment ...

          Then I took myself off the crucifix -
          And through the forest to the village of tear!
          And now I'm in Europe, brothers!
          Glad for the most tomatoes !!!
        2. AVV
          AVV 9 February 2014 14: 25
          +1
          Quote: Denis
          Quote: ele1285
          Oh, and they definitely think about the people? It seems they only think about themselves. In general, the speeches of these maydanuty people are very similar to

          That's for sure, you need to correct the mistakes of the past !!!
        3. Current 72
          Current 72 10 February 2014 01: 27
          0
          Denis! Your poster laughed to tears, evil and with great humor!
      3. siberalt
        siberalt 9 February 2014 10: 45
        +4
        Europack for Bandera. Yes, progress does not stand still.
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    2. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 9 February 2014 10: 01
      +10
      AVV (1)
      Maidanutim’s own shirt is closer to the body, earning money generously distributed by the US Embassy and various NGOs, they essentially sell and betray their state, their people, without thinking about the consequences !!!

      "God's chosen" citizens of the world do not think about "their people". In all "revolutions" in the front ranks they are always the provocateurs of atrocities, and then they are the first to "tidy up" the property of the people into their pockets. Their nationality is considered by the mother, in contrast to other peoples. And our trinity has real surnames instead of mimics: Klitschko-Etinzon, Yatsenyuk-Bakai (descendant of the ancient rabbi Bakai), Tyagnibok-Lengen (has Israeli citizenship). Will they do anything for the good of the people?
      Not all Jews are like that, but there are such "too materialized" ones, it is not for nothing that our people call them "well ..."
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    4. Trance
      Trance 9 February 2014 10: 59
      +35
      Quote: AVV
      My shirt Maydanut closer to the body

      bully
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 9 February 2014 14: 34
        +5
        Quote: Trance

        You said correctly
        And we have one Motherland, Holy Russia
        Already a tear came, these are necessary on the stage, and not any dolbs ...... ov
      2. Dovmont
        Dovmont 9 February 2014 16: 28
        +1
        whipping but honestly!
      3. Lelek
        Lelek 9 February 2014 19: 29
        +3
        True, even inveterate bandits do not spoil where they live. Then, who are these maydanschiki - the Nazis. Those were not and have nothing holy. negative
    5. densh
      densh 9 February 2014 11: 30
      +15
      Quote: AVV
      Maidanutim’s own shirt is closer to the body, earning money generously distributed by the US Embassy and various NGOs, they essentially sell and betray their state, their people, without thinking about the consequences !!!

      Recently, my friend returned from Kiev. There he met a friend who worked as a bottle thrower on the Maidan. On the question “Why the heck, are you indifferent to politics, you earn well?”, He replied: “Old man, you have no idea what adrenaline it is! !! "So think, who is there because of the idea, who because of the money, and who did not beat the" Battle "in the priest? request
  2. family tree
    family tree 8 February 2014 22: 30
    +21
    And what is already the 9th? Nevermind my calendar is behind belay must be let down.
    Well, after all, they were yelling for Europe, and as soon as the European law was shown, there was no need for laws. Or one in Europe decided to organize a Walk-Field? So there, like Makhno was ideological, and not a fig not Bandera what Damn, it seems understood! It is necessary to obtain and distribute the Criminal Code of the Third Reich, exclusively for Bandera people, they will like it, the native, after all, will calm down right away fellow Concentration camp, the truth will have to build what , yes bullshit, and there it is necessary, the thorn and the Stoics.
    1. family tree
      family tree 8 February 2014 22: 53
      +6
      Chet, I didn’t say that, not for, on Bandera, well, for accomplices, too. drinks
      Racks, essno. For the first time, the very thing, well, a couple of towers yet.
    2. DMB-78
      DMB-78 9 February 2014 07: 28
      +10
      Quote: perepilka
      yes bullshit, and there it is necessary, the thorn and the Stoics.

      so they themselves fenced off. it remains only to limit the power and block the input
      1. yur
        yur 9 February 2014 20: 42
        +5
        No, no, you don’t need to block the entrance! It is necessary to overlap EXIT.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 9 February 2014 07: 04
    +11
    We stop in the village on the square, we break the tent camp,


    HOW all this reminds of past times, the army of the pan-ataman GRITSENKO-TAVRICHESKY breaks into the village — all power has been replaced.

    In general, this audience is essentially not much different from characters from the chieftain's gang.
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 9 February 2014 07: 31
      +5
      Quote: The same Lech
      HOW all this reminds of past times, the army of the pan-ataman GRITSENKO-TAVRICHESKY breaks into the village — all power has been replaced.

      Only in the "wedding in Malinovka" the character's name was Gritsko.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 9 February 2014 07: 50
        +3
        And why am I so in love with you smile
        1. domokl
          domokl 9 February 2014 09: 27
          +10
          lol
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          And why am I so in love with you smile

          Lech, and the geyropa acts on you? laughing You look, otherwise you will suddenly want to put on revolutionary red leggings .... laughing
          In I perverted the classics of Soviet cinema .. I am amazed repeat
  4. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 9 February 2014 07: 15
    +3
    We hurt him .... Soon they will tear him to hell ... laughing
    1. domokl
      domokl 9 February 2014 09: 30
      +4
      Judging by the majority of Ukrainian sites, it’s not soon ... Of course, I would like it to be soon ... There is such a feeling of rejoice that we really only think about how to pile a bunch of manure in Ukraine ... and more ... fellow
  5. delfinN
    delfinN 9 February 2014 07: 35
    +14
    Quote: MIKHAN
    We hurt him .... Soon they will tear him to hell ... laughing

    Yes, even tear off. They still do not need them. That's when they tear off their heads, then let them lament.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 9 February 2014 19: 33
      +3
      Is he the people? Then the wrong finger shows - half-wit. fool
  6. shelva
    shelva 9 February 2014 07: 49
    +2
    It would be better if you beat the nipples, but left the right to arrange a free big top.
  7. Igor39
    Igor39 9 February 2014 07: 49
    +9
    It is necessary to hold a referendum in the Crimea and in the east on the secession from Ukraine, if residents vote for it, then it will be better for these regions to live on their own, and let the west go to Europe to sweep the streets with the owners.
    1. muhomor
      muhomor 9 February 2014 09: 58
      +4
      No! you can not break the country. It is necessary to re-educate banderlog.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 10: 03
        +12
        Quote: muhomor
        It is necessary to re-educate banderlog.

        How ??? With a club on the ridge, so hunchbacked, only the grave will correct negative
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 9 February 2014 10: 59
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: muhomor
          It is necessary to re-educate banderlog.

          How ??? With a club on the ridge, so hunchbacked, only the grave will correct negative

          plant in caches. to give them teachers from the State Department and geyrops and let them sit and learn. Concrete exit from caches, enclose access areas with a thorn. declare the place of study a particularly dangerous infected zone.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 11: 32
            +3
            Quote: DMB-78
            exit from caches to concrete

            Well, kneading concrete with a shovel is to Sparrow. He is a specialist in shovel affairs.
            1. DMB-78
              DMB-78 9 February 2014 11: 46
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Well, kneading concrete with a shovel is to Sparrow. He is a specialist in shovel affairs.

              can be mined. is there such a special?
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 9 February 2014 13: 29
                +9
                Quote: DMB-78
                can be mined. is there such a special?


                Well, I also know how to embroider, and the tree is small too small ....
                1. DMB-78
                  DMB-78 9 February 2014 13: 35
                  +1
                  Quote: vorobey
                  Well, I also know how to embroider, and the tree is small too small ....

                  then you can disguise this cache. under the cave of a three-headed dragon. then surely no one will come up and dig
                2. cosmos111
                  cosmos111 9 February 2014 13: 50
                  +2
                  Quote: vorobey
                  , and wood is also small small ....

                  Hi Sparrow. hi
                  )))) 12 chairs: >>>> Bezenchuk "Nymph", where she is in a swing, does he give the goods? >>>
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        2. Tersky
          Tersky 9 February 2014 11: 08
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          How ??? With a club on the ridge, so hunchbacked, only the grave will correct

          And then only on one condition, thoroughly morning after laying in the coffin, and numerous rolled skating rink on the grave.
      2. shibi
        shibi 9 February 2014 12: 29
        0
        How ??? With a club on the ridge, so hunchbacked, only the grave will correct

        In coal mines.
        1. densh
          densh 9 February 2014 13: 47
          +3
          Quote: sibi
          In coal mines.

          It is also necessary to work in the mine, produce "to the mountain" to give out. And these already, it turns out, "drank revolutions" and not everyone will be able to return to normal work. How Stalin treated them ... hi
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 9 February 2014 19: 37
            +3
            Here, get together and treat with bundles of barbed wire on your bare asses. negative
          2. shibi
            shibi 10 February 2014 04: 23
            0
            Nobody canceled occupational therapy.
            They will want to eat, they will chop the coal))
      3. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 9 February 2014 13: 22
        +2
        Quote: muhomor
        It is necessary to re-educate banderlog.

        "You must Fedya, you must...". "Shurik" (Alexander Demyanenko).
  8. Koronik
    Koronik 9 February 2014 07: 49
    +3
    But how did they get it all! I understand that this is now a "hot" topic, but leave them alone, let the gentlemen from independent (?) Ukraine figure out what they want? And they live as they want, with the EU, the USA, Canada, or someone else. I somehow don't care, although my relatives live there. "The calculation of all these" lovers of truth and fighters for the people "is very simple - to hammer into people's heads what is beneficial to very few in Ukraine and many in the USA and Western Europe. And it is not so difficult to do this, since very few of our citizens have the opportunity read the text of these laws and interpret them correctly. " The author of this article tells us, then dear enlighten most people, explain to them where the lie is where the truth is. I understand this position, let the Russians figure it out for us, and we will wait in case of a positive solution to the issue, we are on a horse, negative, then all in unison will declare in unison that the Russians are guilty of all Ukrainian problems. without commenting on the Ukrainian question.
    1. tank64rus
      tank64rus 9 February 2014 14: 06
      +2
      And he doesn't need to comment. For him everything was commented on by a lady from the US State Department, who had already "formed" the government of "independent" Ukraine and sent Europe very far away in between. True, the Americans also found an excuse here, it turns out that she spent several months on a Russian ship twelve years ago and after that she cannot conduct diplomatic negotiations without the great and mighty. Poor girl. Again the bloody hand of Moscow and immigrants from the KGB.
      1. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 10 February 2014 08: 19
        0
        Quote: tank64rus
        True, the Americans even found an excuse here, it turns out she spent eleven months ago on a Russian ship and after that she cannot conduct great and powerful diplomatic negotiations. Poor girl

        Well, again, the Russians are to blame for what you will do. another question is interesting - in what capacity was she on the ship?
        1. densh
          densh 10 February 2014 13: 26
          0
          Quote: wasjasibirjac
          - who was she on the ship as?

          Yeah, and why didn’t the Russian sailors teach her our mat? Or were they there, like real gentlemen, barking exclusively in English? what
    2. tank64rus
      tank64rus 9 February 2014 14: 06
      0
      And he doesn't need to comment. For him everything was commented on by a lady from the US State Department, who had already "formed" the government of "independent" Ukraine and sent Europe very far away in between. True, the Americans also found an excuse here, it turns out that she spent several months on a Russian ship twelve years ago and after that she cannot conduct diplomatic negotiations without the great and mighty. Poor girl. Again the bloody hand of Moscow and immigrants from the KGB.
  9. makarov
    makarov 9 February 2014 07: 53
    +4
    "bringing to deserved criminal responsibility for all their atrocities, ranging from gross insults and slander against the President, the Prime Minister, officials of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Prosecutor General's Office .."

    At the carоRa material, clearly Yanek is a symbol and idol of worship.
    I myself live in the southeast, I am not a fan of the so-called. "political troika". People from my social circle are also not fans of the "troika". But both myself and my friends and acquaintances, we feel, to put it mildly, a firm dislike for Janek and his gangster entourage. And with this law they also wanted to close people's mouths, and then introduce the institution of sexists. In history, this has already happened many times, remember the so-called. "tongues", which were taken through the squares, in anticipation of the exclamation "word and deed".
    I hate Gorbachev for the collapse of the USSR, but Yanukovych with the gang, I hate no less !!!!!!
    1. shibi
      shibi 9 February 2014 08: 24
      +11
      Figs with him, Janek!
      But why don’t you want to adopt European laws?
      And the order is European?
      Or is it comfortable with how your banderlogs behave, breaking monuments, destroying buildings, littering everything around you?
      Your every meeting of the Rada-clowning. They fight or block.
      At the level of primates, they communicate more culturally, where the important things quickly put things in order.
      But Ukraine has slipped into the trash and does not want to get out of it, adopting civilized laws.
      1. makarov
        makarov 9 February 2014 08: 38
        -3
        "Or is he satisfied with the way your Banderlog behaves, destroying monuments, smashing buildings, littering everything around them? .."

        Banderlog, in comparison with the gopota of Yanukovych and his taunton-makut, these are small kutyats ....
        1. shibi
          shibi 9 February 2014 08: 42
          +5
          Every nation deserves the kind of president it elects. (c) I do not remember who said it.
          1. bya965
            bya965 9 February 2014 11: 51
            +5
            You believe in democracy. I do not, it is possible maximum within one village. And do not forget democracy, we were presented with slave states. So now in all democracies there are people of the first and second and even third grades.
            1. AnaBat
              AnaBat 9 February 2014 12: 00
              +5
              Here's how gay people understand democracy:
              Democracy is not the power of the majority, but the protection of the minority.
              Albert Camus
          2. AnaBat
            AnaBat 9 February 2014 11: 55
            0
            Every nation deserves the kind of president it elects. (c) I do not remember who said it.

            Like this: Every nation has a leader who has them!
          3. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 9 February 2014 13: 26
            +2
            Quote: sibi
            Every nation deserves the kind of president it chooses

            There is a more accurate quote: every nation chooses a president who "has" him.
        2. leks
          leks 9 February 2014 09: 16
          +11
          makarov
          Hi everyone, what was better with Yushchenko? Something I do not remember when they performed on the Maidan?
          Another question you citizens are Ukrainians, why Yushchenko did not sign an agreement with the EU because he had all the possibilities !?
          1. Egoza
            9 February 2014 10: 23
            +9
            Quote: leks
            why Yushchenko did not sign an agreement with the EU because he had all the possibilities !?

            Americans did not give TsU! laughing
        3. Egoza
          9 February 2014 10: 20
          +8
          Quote: makarov
          Banderlog, compared with the gopota of Yanukovych and his taunton-makut, they are small kutyats ..

          Only these "kutyats" burn policemen, use explosives, try to smash everything and everyone. I understand that you hate Yanukovych, but in this case - the Law itself is good. No need to slander, said A, say B! Back up with specific facts, documents, etc.
          And I personally hope that all these repealed laws are slowly, but will be returned!
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 9 February 2014 13: 04
            +4
            [quote = Fidget] And I personally hope that all these repealed laws are slowly, but will be returned! [/ quote]
            Here is the key word-CANCELED. The squandering power, ready to bend both to the west (and we have everything according to the law!) And to the one who threatens to shout (the opposition) will soon finish badly. What the hell do we need laws to eliminate the threat? channels owned by the authorities, to play videos about the dispersal of demonstrators in "democratic states." in France and England. And those who were not doped in two days to carry out on clubs from Khreshchatyk, and that's the end. And the prez chewed snot - yours, and ours.
            [quote = Fidget] the Law itself is good [/ quote
            Which one? There are a number of really good laws. And a number of controversial, how can you condemn a person in absentia? Is it Nazi Germany or something? Yes, and we have laws like weapons, it’s good, only bandits and police can use it and politicians. Simple people, far from all. That's the question, how and against whom will they be used?
            1. Egoza
              9 February 2014 16: 53
              +2
              Quote: revnagan
              And a number of controversial, how can one condemn a person in absentia? Is it Nazi Germany, or what?

              In this article, laws are briefly described. See in more detail (if any) on the state portal. But I will explain briefly. CAN in case
              1. If a person is served with a subpoena (1.2.3 times) and he is not
              2. If a person was handed a subpoena, and he waved a pen and pulled abroad
              3. If, like ours, Yulia refuses to go to court 42 times, where they can add a term to her, and for such reasons that no Europe will otmayut - tax evasion and fraud, because of which she was declared wanted by Interpol. Yes, she "jumped out" then, but the matter remained !!!
              And this law indicates that no matter how they turn, but the COURT WILL BE! And THE TIME WILL BE!
              1. revnagan
                revnagan 9 February 2014 18: 09
                +1
                Quote: Egoza
                1. If a person is served with a subpoena (1.2.3 times) and he is not

                And weak hands behind the back, and on the sub-court? They got used to stand on ceremony with the deputies ... They handed the subpoena, didn’t come, so why give the hands a second time, hands behind, and went.
          2. ovgorskiy
            ovgorskiy 10 February 2014 12: 05
            +1
            The laws are good, no doubt, BUT these laws should not have been passed now, but 10-20 years ago. These laws are basic for all normal states, and there was no need to wait for fascism to become a real force with military units, when it would seize the courts, administrations and government agencies, and would attack law enforcement officials and judges. The formation of any state begins with the adoption of laws on which all further development is based. There are no laws - there is no normal state. Hence the conclusions that Ukraine over the 20 years of formation has not become a normal state.
        4. Genry
          Genry 9 February 2014 10: 42
          +5
          Bish and do not stutter !!!
          You are simply defending your favorite Adonis trio.

          You are a member of the herd who believes that the leader should be an ideal artificial creature. Do you think so?
          There are no white and fluffy, all have black spots with tassels.
          In my opinion, for the development of the herd, of which you are a member, you must destroy the individuals leading this herd to the slaughter (literally).

          And a new fashion trend:
          1. 31231
            31231 9 February 2014 11: 15
            +3
            Makarov had already shaken somehow that Yatsenyukh had a program of future leadership that was acceptable.
            And then, again, he will curse Russia, and not himself for his power.
            1. makarov
              makarov 9 February 2014 11: 18
              -4
              "Makarov has already shaken up that Yaytsenyukh's program of future leadership is acceptable ..."

              Seryozha !! What is it you ??? Come on, give evidence. Really studied with the Jesuits ?? Or maybe he himself is a freemason, or is the essence of rushing out ???
              1. 31231
                31231 9 February 2014 15: 26
                0
                What is it you ??? Come on, give evidence.


                makarov  February 3, 2014 13:10 pm | Why will Washington lose in Ukraine ...

                "No program! ... NO! This is what drives you out of yourself! This is not opposition! This is a circus."

                Himself, although far from politics, but t.s. in a minute of weakness I read different materials out of curiosity, and so, yesterday Rabbit posted on Ukrnet info with the program. In principle, the theses are positive. But practically, in life, before beckoning, they always attract sweet ...


                Makarov, what century do you live in ?! All your comments are debugged on the server. I can look for a comment where you hail the laws mentioned in the article. Then they stopped you in the driveway, the column gathered up there and the cops stopped you.
                1. makarov
                  makarov 9 February 2014 17: 08
                  -3
                  Seryozha? And where is it written "the program of the future leadership is acceptable" ????
                  And what the hell fare ???? The guy you are treating with ??? All the time I write comments from a hospital computer.
                  I was convinced once again that you are either a former KGB officer or the current FSB specialist. Is Bedolak already forced to work on weekends? And though irregular pay? or days off only promise ?? What title ??? The provocative handwriting shows that up to the major. It’s like a major, and you won’t get above Seryozha, because you can easily reveal the essence of gbshnu. Comrade site curator. soldier
                  1. 31231
                    31231 9 February 2014 18: 09
                    +2
                    forced to work? And though irregular pay? or days off only promise ?? What title ???


                    Thanks, laughed. Rank?! Bgg. Four stars. Probably the oldest warrant officer.
                    And on the other hand, I am glad that in ordinary Russians they see the servants of the law.

                    Well, what would you have guessed here on the coffee grounds: chief engineer of a blasting office. He served only a term in the infantry reconnaissance battalion.
                  2. revnagan
                    revnagan 9 February 2014 18: 11
                    0
                    Quote: makarov
                    The provocative handwriting shows that up to the major.

                    "Captain, you will never be a major ..."
                    V.S. Vysotsky
                  3. yur
                    yur 9 February 2014 21: 19
                    +3
                    "Either a former KGB officer, or a current FSB officer." So what's wrong with that? In my opinion this should be proud. Or is it better the former Bandera, the current swamp-Maidan "hero"?
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        6. 31231
          31231 9 February 2014 10: 48
          +9
          For whom is he going to change, Makarov? And you think someone will ask you for a new king?
          They will put you on the throne, some legarchs will replace others, and you will again pour snot on the Internet "Get the gang!"
          Naive, you think the Maidan will improve your life.
          1. makarov
            makarov 9 February 2014 11: 14
            +1
            And I’m deep on the drum, that yellow, that blue, that red.
            Since the main value is your family. And from any power, and their lackeys, as well as "fans", has long been abstracted, they are all foes for me. Since all 20 years of Ukrainian history, power is not from God, but from the devil.
            1. 11111mail.ru
              11111mail.ru 9 February 2014 13: 30
              -5
              Quote: makarov
              Since all 20 years of the history of Ukraine, power is not from God, but from a demon.

              I think that in ErEfii similarly.
              1. shuhartred
                shuhartred 9 February 2014 14: 35
                +6
                Quote: 11111mail.ru
                I think that in ErEfii similarly.

                That's interesting, I read a lot of posts, everyone writes either in Ukraine or in Ukraine, who is more familiar to everyone but everyone with a capital letter and the name of the country are not mutilated. About Russia, as soon as Raska and Erefia and Parashka, etc. What is so hard to write six letters? Respect a country, even if you do not respect its government. angry
                1. Nikotin13
                  Nikotin13 9 February 2014 14: 52
                  +4
                  In Argentina, there is something similar, they are called maricon, when he doesn’t tell you anything in the face, but he runs back 500 meters, then he might cry out: himself! lol
                2. 11111mail.ru
                  11111mail.ru 9 February 2014 15: 49
                  -2
                  Quote: shuhartred
                  Respect a country, even if you do not respect its government.

                  Dear, separate the cutlets from the flies. Tunics separately, and flies separately. If my homeland is obsessed and fouled by Tel Aviv + London + Washington scrapes, then what I observe is what I call. By the way, ErEf and derivatives of this term can not be a curse, either theoretically or practically. Is the two-letter abbreviation of the Russian Federation an insult to honor and dignity? Why is / user / shuhartred / offended when I use the phoneme ErEf, which is nothing more than READING the same letters according to the rules of the modern Russian language? Open the primer and read the alphabet from "A" to "Z" in Russian. When explaining with the guardians of morality like you, you are drawn to the classics: you "... all learned a little, something and somehow."
                  1. shuhartred
                    shuhartred 9 February 2014 17: 59
                    +3
                    Quote: 11111mail.ru
                    my use of ErEf phonemes, which is nothing but READING of the same letters

                    So you decide whether you are writing or talking. Let’s then write the SSEC SESHA and so on.
                    Quote: 11111mail.ru
                    By the way, ErEf and derivatives of this term can not be a curse either theoretically or practically.

                    Decipher this abbreviation EREF to me then and we’ll talk about it or not.
                    Quote: 11111mail.ru
                    Is the two-letter abbreviation of the Russian Federation an insult to honor and dignity?

                    No, it's not. Would write so I would not say a word.
                    Quote: 11111mail.ru
                    What is offended by / user / shuhartred / when I use ErEf phonemes that there is nothing more than READING

                    I believe that this is a hidden form of sarcasm and neglect of the country, as evidenced by the subsequent clumsy attempt to justify and accuse the opponent of ignorance. I consider further discussion counterproductive (we will not prove anything to each other in short)
                    1. 11111mail.ru
                      11111mail.ru 9 February 2014 18: 22
                      -1
                      Quote: shuhartred
                      Let’s then write the SSEC SESHA and so on.

                      Let’s attach the picture:
                    2. 11111mail.ru
                      11111mail.ru 9 February 2014 18: 49
                      -2
                      Quote: shuhartred
                      Decrypt to me this abbreviation EREF

                      This is yours and the flag in your hands. My abbreviation Er (Russian) Ef (Federation), even a student is understandable.
                      Quote: shuhartred
                      I think that it is latent form of sarcasm

                      "Der ist"it means ... Russian won't build a phrase like that, it's from the Germans.
                      Point your finger at my quote where I called you ignoramus !?
                      I accept the offer to stop butting. By the way, try to use your extreme word-parasite "shorter" less often, then your comments, without losing their meaning, will really become shorter.
                      1. shuhartred
                        shuhartred 10 February 2014 14: 29
                        0
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        "Der ist" means ... Russian won't build a phrase like that, it's from the Germans.

                        Hmm, subtle. It would never have crossed my mind. Are you probably a linguist or philologist? I’m not here, so I write how to spell. There were no Germans in the family (probably)
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        Point your finger at my quote where I called you ignoramus !?

                        Well, but this
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        ..all learned a little, something and somehow. "

                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        ... By the way, your extreme parasite word "shorter", try to use less often

                        Do I use it that often? In a dialogue with you once. You would listen to one of my passengers (I work in a taxi while on vacation). A girl of 25 years old talked on the phone all the way. The word "as it were" was about half of what was said. When I got out I couldn't get rid of him for about an hour.
                      2. 11111mail.ru
                        11111mail.ru 11 February 2014 17: 39
                        0
                        Quote: shuhartred
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        "Der ist" means ... Russian won't build a phrase like that, it's from the Germans.
                        Hmm, subtle. It would never have crossed my mind. Are you probably a linguist or philologist? I’m not here, so I write how to spell. There were no Germans in the family (probably)

                        A frank confession relieves conscience. Then the only conclusion remains: very deep in your subcortex are the words to the music of Pierre Degeiter: "This is our last ...". I myself am not a linguist or a philologist, even at school there were only solid fours in Russian and literature, but the teachers were good. However, he learned to read before school and in the first grade he beat D. Swift "Gulliver in the land of the Lilliputians".
                        Quote: shuhartred
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        Point your finger at my quote where I called you ignoramus !?
                        Well, but this
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        ..all learned a little, something and somehow. "

                        Show me the word "ignorant" and I will apologize. Only in the course of the discussion you imputed to me the use of the abbreviation "EREF", although I used a different "Eref", it is dishonest on your part.
                        Regarding your application of "shorter", remember the wonderful artist Y. Nikulin, I give a quote: "In short, Sklifosovsky!" - a popular phrase from the comedy film Prisoner of the Caucasus, or Shurik's New Adventures. It is usually pronounced in order to interrupt a protracted speech. "
                      3. shuhartred
                        shuhartred 12 February 2014 01: 11
                        0
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        Then the only conclusion remains

                        No, it’s unlikely, just such a statement of the phrase doesn’t cut my ear and I don’t see anything foreign in it. And since you are not an expert then there is nothing to argue about.
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        However, I learned to read before school

                        I also started reading before school and even mastered "Robinson Crusoe", so what?
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        Show me the word "ignorant" and I will apologize.

                        The ignorant is a rude rude man. Ignorance is a lack of knowledge of education. No need to replace concepts. I wrote that you accused me of ignorance.
                        Not that you called me an ignoramus.
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        abbreviation "EREF", although I used another "EREF"

                        Well, decrypt your option. Just start with the letter E.
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        Regarding your application of "shorter", remember the wonderful artist Y. Nikulin, I give a quote: "In short, Sklifosovsky!" - a popular phrase from the comedy film Prisoner of the Caucasus, or Shurik's New Adventures. It is usually pronounced in order to interrupt a protracted speech. "

                        what?
                      4. 11111mail.ru
                        11111mail.ru 12 February 2014 05: 39
                        0
                        Quote: shuhartred
                        what?

                        "... Sklifosovsky!"
                      5. shuhartred
                        shuhartred 12 February 2014 10: 49
                        0
                        Quote: 11111mail.ru
                        "... Sklifosovsky!"

                        Bamba Miya. Kergudu.
          2. yur
            yur 9 February 2014 21: 29
            +1
            Dear, do not pretend to be a duo, all that, you, perfectly understood.
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 9 February 2014 19: 48
        +3
        Mr. Kakaltsik, change the flag on your comment. You probably like UE more. fellow
    2. alone
      alone 9 February 2014 18: 14
      +1
      All power comes from the demon. And no one is an exception
      1. makarov
        makarov 9 February 2014 19: 13
        0
        here it is, innate oriental wisdom !!
        And also, dear Omar Khayyam, you explain to me on the eastern side: What should be called the chela, who is a prisoner in a concentration camp who was convicted of escaping from forced labor, and who was sentenced to stay in Mathhausen along with Karbyshev, and was forced out of the ranks only by monsters executed before the dousing, on which medical experiments were carried out, and this sufferer was insulted by a n-th person on the site by a German attendant. What would you call this brow ???
        1. alone
          alone 9 February 2014 19: 31
          +2
          Pavel, can you specifically tell the surname of the person who you are talking about? I promise a clean and impartial answer
        2. alone
          alone 9 February 2014 19: 44
          0
          Quote: makarov
          What would you call this brow ???


          When I find out who I’m talking about, I’ll tell you this: This person deserves to be hated off to him. shame and eternal censure to those who called him a servant of the Germans. Those who called him a servant, in his situation would surely betray everyone. The thief always yells loudest of all, "Stop the thief!"

          P.S. Some of them already really got their pseudo-patriotism. Pavel, six months ago, when I first wrote my first comment here, I was sure that I would be on the side of Russia with a grand schukher. The pseudo-patriots made me think now that I would become neutral. I don’t see anymore.
          1. makarov
            makarov 9 February 2014 19: 53
            0
            and now the dialogue itself.
            makarov
            I have two friends who were in concentration camps,
            one in Rivne, and the second in Mathhausen, and not one of them went to the Vlasovites.

            Corsair5912
            The friends were probably security guards, they did not need to go to Vlasovites, nobody forced them to do this,
            they served the Führer already.
            1. alone
              alone 9 February 2014 19: 57
              +1
              As always, a cheap Mehlis stamp, once it was captured, it means that it served the Nazis))) Forget Pavel. These are incorrigible.
  • Tersky
    Tersky 9 February 2014 11: 17
    +10
    Quote: makarov
    Banderlog, compared with the gopota of Yanukovych and his taunton-makut, they are small kutyats ..

    "Kutyata" say .... then take the matches away from them, otherwise their "childish pranks" from the lights lead to ...
    And here is their "children's creativity" with the designer "Lego"
    Pretty "innocent" fun of the "tsucenei", isn't it?
    1. makarov
      makarov 9 February 2014 11: 35
      0
      I will try to "calm" you.
      Yesterday, at the direction of Yanukovych, his godfather, Prosecutor General Pshonka, instructed (and it has been executed) to institute criminal proceedings against the leaders of the Crimea to Russia movement. This info is available in a number of news remakes.
      1. AnaBat
        AnaBat 9 February 2014 12: 05
        +8
        State Duma deputy organizes "Slavic anti-fascist front" in Ukraine
        08.02.2014 | 20:47
        In Odessa, about 20 organizations supported the creation of the international public movement "Slavic Antifascist Front"
      2. 31231
        31231 9 February 2014 15: 29
        +3
        Yesterday, at the direction of Yanukovych, his godfather, Prosecutor General Pshonka, instructed (and it has been executed) to institute criminal proceedings against the leaders of the Crimea to Russia movement. This info is available in a number of news remakes.


        Can I have a link? Only not on "non-profit" sources.
        1. makarov
          makarov 9 February 2014 17: 19
          0
          “The SBU Central Investigation Department has registered in the Unified Register of Pre-trial Investigations criminal proceedings for a criminal offense under part 1 of article 14, part 1 of article 110 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (preparation for an encroachment on the territorial integrity and integrity of Ukraine),” it says in a statement.
          We will remind that earlier the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the ARC raised the issue of preparing documents on the creation of a working group to amend the Constitution of the Crimea and conducting a general Crimean survey on the status of Crimea, as well as a possible appeal to Russia about “protection”, in connection with the political situation in the country .
          1. 31231
            31231 9 February 2014 18: 20
            +1
            Thanks for the headline from the articles. Found an article. Only there it is not written as you paint. You write:
            Yesterday, at the direction of Yanukovych, his godfather, Prosecutor General Pshonka, instructed (and it is executed) to institute criminal proceedings against the leaders of the Crimea to Russia movement.


            It’s written here.
            Production is open at the request of the MP from the "Fatherland" Ivan Stoiko, he said.

            "At the request of one of the people's deputies - Stoyko, at his request, the statements on the commission of a crime provided for in Articles 15 and 110 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (preparation for an encroachment on the territorial integrity and inviolability of Ukraine) were entered into the Unified Register of Pre-trial Investigations," Lenko.
            "Through the Prosecutor General's Office, the investigation of this crime was entrusted to the investigation department of the SBU Directorate in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea," he added.


            Something I did not find Mr. Evnukhovich. Some kind of father, Stoyko, using the orange wave that covered Ukraine, decided to swing the right.
            And you also declare that the laws only work for the "Gang". And over there senka's friend came with a complaint and was taken into consideration.
          2. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 9 February 2014 18: 34
            +3
            Quote: makarov
            “The SBU Central Investigation Department has registered in the Unified Register of Pre-trial Investigations criminal proceedings for a criminal offense under part 1 of article 14, part 1 of article 110 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (preparation for an encroachment on the territorial integrity and integrity of Ukraine),” it says in a statement.

            Latest news from Kiev:
            The Security Service of Ukraine announces the activation of its Anti-Terrorism Center and anti-terrorism measures. This is stated in the message of the SBU, published on the official website ...
  • SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 9 February 2014 11: 07
    +4
    Quote: sibi
    But Ukraine has slipped into the trash and does not want to get out of it, adopting civilized laws.

    But Russia will have to pull Ukraine out of this garbage again, to the detriment of the welfare of its citizens! As much as you can, trying to enter paradise on someone else's hump, we got it already!
  • makarov
    makarov 9 February 2014 11: 44
    0
    "And Ukraine has slipped into the very dustbin and does not want to get out of it, adopting civilized laws."
    And where (in what place) then, by your definition, was the Russian Federation when its rules were the EBNensky mafia? In paradise or something ????
    1. leks
      leks 9 February 2014 12: 04
      +7
      15 years have passed since EBN, so you can’t remember him, I remember when separating Ukraine Kravchuk and K shouted that it would be better for us to live separately, he had every opportunity to do this, after Kuchma and K they also had the opportunity to make the country an agricultural paradise, raise the plants and carry out modernization, Next comes Yushchenko and K and then Yanukovych and K, guys, what did you do in the 90s, i.e. 24 years, you could borrow from the same European countries at a minimum percentage and make modernization to European standards, sorry guys but Russia, led by Putin, grabbed luck by the tail in the form of oil prices, stabilized the oligarchs, paid off their debt to the IMF and began to limp, stumbling, falling, but still go ahead.
      If further on, it will continue like that sell the country and fill your pockets at the top of the country you guys will be left with nothing! !!!!!!
      1. Vladimir 70
        Vladimir 70 9 February 2014 12: 09
        +1
        .... it was possible to take loans from the same European countries at a minimum percentage and make upgrades to European standards ...
        This is when the West gave loans for modernization?
        1. leks
          leks 9 February 2014 14: 22
          +3
          ... it was possible to take loans from the same European countries at a minimum percentage and make upgrades to European standards ...
          This is when the West gave loans for modernization?
          In the 90s there was no European Union, I don’t think that Germany would refuse to give you a loan in the brand on favorable terms for both parties, the IMF in those years also allocated huge funds, you just had to take loans wisely and not just these Waste loans. You have a small country with a small population of about 50 million so it’s easier for you to steer the country.
          What debt did you have in the 90s !?
          So all the opportunities you had were the same Kravchuk and Kuchma were big-headed men, no one bothered them to do this except for greed.
        2. 31231
          31231 9 February 2014 15: 34
          +3
          This is when the West gave loans for modernization?


          And the mortgaged securities of Ukraine in Europe, which are now bought by Russia?

          But about the IMF loans. http://economics.lb.ua/finances/2013/01/23/186696_mvf_utochnil_summu_viplat_ukra
          ini.html

          Where did the pennies go? Is Yanyk stubborn?
          Well, look at the loan history. It was not for nothing that Azarov once said that the country had huge debts.
      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 9 February 2014 13: 37
        +1
        Quote: leks
        15 years have passed since EBN, so you can not remember him

        Who remembers the old, that eye is out. And whoever forgets - both. I will not forget this scum to the grave.
    2. georg737577
      georg737577 9 February 2014 13: 06
      -2
      When something happens in Ukraine, most visitors to this site sincerely believe that this is not the desire of the people to get rid of another gang in power and somehow improve things in their own country and, as always, the machinations of the West. Naturally, against Russia and Putin personally ...
      The possibility of an independent choice of the path of development for Ukraine is not even hypothetically considered here - listen to your "big brother", but if you don't want to - you are a fascist ... This is primitive, gentlemen, and not clever.
      1. AnaBat
        AnaBat 9 February 2014 13: 24
        +3
        Unfortunately, Ukraine is now not in a position to decide for itself. With Sh P and geyropa already live there (judging by how often they travel and blackmail, they teach how to live, which laws to apply, which people to push into power). Therefore, it makes no sense to talk about some kind of freedom of choice for Ukraine. And RUSSIA is forced to feed the former socialist republics, which are also "independent and independent." This is the fate of all socialist republics (the main thing is to sell at a higher price).
        1. alone
          alone 9 February 2014 20: 13
          +1
          Quote: AnaBat
          And RUSSIA is forced to feed the former socialist republics, which are also "independent and independent." This is the fate of all socialist republics (the main thing is to sell at a higher price).


          specifically call all the former which Russia feeds.
      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 9 February 2014 13: 39
        +3
        Quote: georg737577
        This is primitive, gentlemen are good, and not smart.

        Here is the "flag" in your hands, or rather the keyboard. Share your undoubtedly wise thoughts with the members of the forum.
      3. leks
        leks 9 February 2014 14: 40
        +2
        You distort the dear comrade Ukrainians, for God's sake choose your development path, only you don’t get something with a choice, you have no choice but the next Independence Square.
        You also write that these are the machinations of the West towards Russia through your country, but what can we think !? if the same EU accuses Russia of official affairs in Ukraine about what is happening in Ukraine, tell us, one of our people made such speeches from your stands calling for the seizure of administrative buildings and revolution in your country, our position is this is your internal problem, deal with it yourself! !!
        As for the Nazis, you have the question georg737577, do you deny the fact that there are radical groups on the Euromaidan with the views of neo-fascism !?
        Also, when we had swamp protests, I didn’t see that the riot police threw Molotov cocktails and I also didn’t hear that the families of employees were threatened with reprisals, and in this way the gangs of "Bandera" were always distinguished
      4. shuhartred
        shuhartred 9 February 2014 14: 51
        +4
        Quote: georg737577
        When something happens in Ukraine, most visitors to this site sincerely believe that this is not the desire of the people to get rid of another gang in power and somehow improve things in their own country and, as always, the machinations of the West. Naturally, against Russia and Putin personally ...

        A large number of Ukrainian citizens sincerely believe that all their troubles stem from Russia. What if you get rid of the Russians, then everything will be fine right away. What do you think so for 20 years. The possibility of constructive proposals in Russia is not even hypothetically considered. The Russians want to occupy us and destroy the point. No less primitive and not smart
      5. roleg69
        roleg69 9 February 2014 17: 10
        +2
        I wonder what independent choice are you talking about? Someone asked the people? After all, no one held a referendum
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 9 February 2014 13: 34
      0
      Quote: makarov
      where (in what place) then, by your definition, was the Russian Federation when its rules were the EBNensky mafia?

      The correct formulation of the question. Where? There are two options. The first is where the legs grow from. The second is near, but slightly lower.
    4. shuhartred
      shuhartred 9 February 2014 14: 40
      +1
      Quote: makarov
      And where (in what place) then, by your definition, was the Russian Federation when its rules were the EBNensky mafia?

      Also in the trash. So what??? Is this easier for you? What is the same rubbish ??? belay
      1. 31231
        31231 9 February 2014 15: 45
        +4
        Thank God, Russia has drawn conclusions and is slowly going up due to stability. And some Ukrainians here, all in the gamut of gold are looking for the throne. And they wash off the next amno from the throne, while being smeared over the ears.
        1. makarov
          makarov 9 February 2014 17: 26
          0
          http://an.crimea.ua/page/news/56755/
          1. 31231
            31231 9 February 2014 18: 28
            0
            Members of the Presidium of the Crimean Parliament Sergei Tsekov and Vladimir Klychnikov.


            Let's hope that with the help of Russia, these parliamentarians will file a parallel lawsuit against Yaytsenyukh, Tyagnyvsrak and Vitalik the boxer. Those criminal and video episodes have a lot more.

            By the way, they only offered to ask for help, and Yaytsenyukh already receives it from the United States and the European Parliament. And asks.
        2. revnagan
          revnagan 9 February 2014 18: 17
          +4
          Quote: 31231
          Thank God Russia made conclusions

          Yes, thank God, Russia was just lucky that the EBN had drunk appointed the successor of the GDP. If you were Chubais or Gaidar, it would be scary to imagine that Russia was now with us, and, as luck would have it, not a single president got into trouble. Careful, bastards.
  • revnagan
    revnagan 9 February 2014 13: 07
    +3
    Quote: sibi
    But why don’t you want to adopt European laws? And the order is European?

    And what, it was impossible to restore European order without European laws? No mind, take an example from Belarus. The order is exemplary, and without Euro laws.
  • washi
    washi 9 February 2014 09: 28
    +6
    Quote: makarov
    I hate Gorbachev for the collapse of the USSR, but Yanukovych with the gang, I hate no less !!!!!!

    Yes, hate on. Laws do not interfere. But defamation of citizens, including the president and YOU, should be punished. Write only the truth and the law will not affect you. Yes, and insult, someone was not beautiful. You yourself don’t like it when the site offends you or the Ukrainians. And to insult a popularly elected president means to insult the people.
    1. makarov
      makarov 9 February 2014 11: 40
      +1
      do not equate the demon with the people!
      After all, cursing Hitler, we do not curse the Germans?
      1. shuhartred
        shuhartred 9 February 2014 14: 56
        +3
        Quote: makarov
        After all, cursing Hitler, we do not curse the Germans?

        Yes, how to say. Those who came to us (and to you too) in 1941 I will personally curse until the end of my life. And the current ones have nothing to do with Hitler.
    2. revnagan
      revnagan 9 February 2014 12: 39
      +1
      Quote: Vasya
      Laws do not interfere. But defamation of citizens, including the president and YOU, should be punished.

      No law in this system will work as it should. A lot of good, well, really good and necessary laws have already been adopted. But, as Zhvanetsky used to say, “the same C2H5 for a couple, but does not take!?”. With the “telephone” right in the country, with nepotism and "whoever has more money, he is right", the laws work selectively, and are applied only to the weakest and most wealthy citizens who are not protected by the detutan immunity.
  • ochakow703
    ochakow703 9 February 2014 12: 23
    +5
    Here, I got acquainted with the content of laws. There is not a word there, not about love, not about hatred. Normal laws for normal, law-abiding citizens. Clearly, the maydauns and their fans do not like them - they break the buzz from lawlessness. So then the laws to ensure order. One of my acquaintances, still in the chancellorship of Helmut Kohl, decided to leave for permanent residence in Germany. I went on reconnaissance. Where they say I will live, where to work, etc. But being in Dresden, according to our habit, threw a cigarette butt out the window, after a couple of minutes a howling siren and a ten-mark fine ... The acquaintance lives all the same, under Kherson. So, LAWS, they are for the ORDER, and not for the buzz!
  • delfinN
    delfinN 9 February 2014 07: 58
    +13
    Over in Israel such orthodox butkutsya, as with good morning. This trio is the same orthodox, only Ukrainian.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 9 February 2014 08: 03
      +1
      Haha, but where are they? In Ukraine, or in Israel? laughing
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 9 February 2014 10: 01
        +11
        Why in Ukraine? Do not distort the Russian language, correctly in Ukraine. I give an example:
        On the ass
        In the ass
        A big difference smile
        1. BIGLESHIY
          BIGLESHIY 9 February 2014 10: 56
          +1
          Quote: Igor39
          Why in Ukraine? Do not distort the Russian language, correctly in Ukraine. I give an example:
          On the ass
          In the ass
          A big difference smile

          And how is it correct in Russia or in Russia? Correctly write "in" and not "on" (do not distort the Russian language) !!!
          1. Nikoha.2010
            Nikoha.2010 9 February 2014 11: 12
            +1
            Quote: BIGLESHIY
            Quote: Igor39
            Why in Ukraine? Do not distort the Russian language, correctly in Ukraine. I give an example:
            On the ass
            In the ass
            A big difference smile

            And how is it correct in Russia or in Russia? Correctly write "in" and not "on" (do not distort the Russian language) !!!

            Began! The prident flew to Ukraine, and where is the Carpathians? In Ukraine. Thus, always when it comes to the state of Ukraine, it is necessary to write and speak only in Ukraine. Look on the internet where the name of Ukraine came from, the outskirts, near the outskirts, and we are talking about the state.
            1. rolik2
              rolik2 9 February 2014 12: 44
              0
              Quote: Nikoha.2010
              Look on the internet where the name of Ukraine came from, the outskirts, near the outskirts,

              That is, when they were traveling to the Far East they were saying food to the outskirts (Ukraine)? Do not talk nonsense.
        2. Tatanka Yotanka
          Tatanka Yotanka 9 February 2014 11: 05
          +6
          Quote: Igor39
          On the ass
          In the ass
          A big difference

          probably right- I'm not a linguist,
          pimple on the ass and worm on the ass
          wassat
          1. BIGLESHIY
            BIGLESHIY 9 February 2014 11: 12
            0
            Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
            Quote: Igor39
            On the ass
            In the ass
            A big difference

            probably right- I'm not a linguist,
            pimple on the ass and worm on the ass
            wassat

            Where do you live "in" Russia or "on" Russia, "in" Israel or "on" Israel, etc.? And you are going to the country and not to the country.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 9 February 2014 11: 37
              +5
              Quote: BIGLESHIY
              Where do you live "in" Russia or "on" Russia, "in" Israel or "on" Israel, etc.? And you are going to the country and not to the country.

              Ukraine in the Russian Empire was considered the outskirts of the state or the border. And it’s right to speak At the border, not At the border. Therefore, it’s right to speak Russian in Ukraine. Read from Gogol - he spoke in Ukraine.
              1. BIGLESHIY
                BIGLESHIY 9 February 2014 12: 12
                0
                Quote: SRC P-15

                Ukraine in the Russian Empire was considered the outskirts of the state or the border. And it’s right to speak At the border, not At the border. Therefore, it’s right to speak Russian in Ukraine. Read from Gogol - he spoke in Ukraine.

                It is believed that the name Ukraine comes from the word "outskirts", so the preposition "on" is used - on the outskirts. On the other hand, the word "edge" is also related. But the preposition in this case is used "in", for example, in the Krasnodar Territory ...
                If we turn to the literature, we can find the phrase "in Ukraine" in the works of Pushkin, Chekhov, Gogol.
                Now let's see the dictionaries:
                In intravital editions of the spelling reference book of D.E. Rosenthal it is indicated that
                The combination in Ukraine arose under the influence of the Ukrainian language (compare: in the Poltava region, in the Chernihiv region) and is supported by the expression on the outskirts
                The use of the preposition "in" is recommended in the latest editions of the Rosenthal spelling guide:
                "With administrative-geographical names, the preposition is used, for example: in a city, in a region, in a region, in a republic, in Siberia, in Belarus, in the Transcaucasus, in Ukraine."
                (D. E. Rosenthal, "Handbook of Spelling and Literary Editing" / under the editorship of I.B. Golub. - 8th ed., Revised and supplemented. - M .: Ayris-press, 2003. - S. 291. - (chapter "Management")).
              2. BIGLESHIY
                BIGLESHIY 9 February 2014 12: 15
                +2
                Quote: SRC P-15

                Ukraine in the Russian Empire was considered the outskirts of the state or the border. And it’s right to speak At the border, not At the border. Therefore, it’s right to speak Russian in Ukraine. Read from Gogol - he spoke in Ukraine.

                In 2009, the journalist Yu.V. Shelyazhenko was sent a request to the Russian Language Institute on how to correctly use prepositions with the geographical name of the country Ukraine. In response, he received the following letter:
                Dear Mr. Shelyazhenko!
                To your inquiry dated 12.01.2009 (outgoing No. 408) regarding the correctness of the use of the prepositions "in" and "on" with the word "Ukraine" we inform you the following.
                With the names of administrative units - states, regions, districts, states, cities, villages and the like in constructions with the meaning of place in modern Russian, the preposition "in" is used: in Czechoslovakia, in the Moscow region, in Dmitrovsky district, in Illinois, in Torzhok ...
                The preposition "na" is found in relatively few combinations: in the Oryol region, in the Bryansk region, in the Ukraine. It was the form in Ukraine that was the only normative one until 1992.
                But in 1993, the Government of Ukraine demanded that the variants to Ukraine (respectively from Ukraine) be recognized as normative for the Russian language. This, in the opinion of the Government of Ukraine, would make it possible to break the etymological connection between the constructions "in Ukraine" and "on the outskirts", unacceptable for an independent state, reflecting, from the point of view of patriotic linguists, great-power disdain on the part of Russia and the Russians.
                Thus, Ukraine would receive linguistic confirmation of its status as an independent state, and not a subordinate region (by analogy with other names of independent states - such as in Germany, Sweden, and Japan).
                However, the path of the option introduced solely for political reasons into the speech practice turned out to be far from simple.
                On the one hand, in texts intended for Ukrainian addressees, one can meet their wishes and use, following the principles of correctness, the form with the preposition "v". In this case, as Academician V.G. Kostomarov, "we have to put up with the most naive political and national thinking: there are things above the inviolable purity of the literary and linguistic canon."
                That is why in official documents concerning relations between Russia and Ukraine, "in" and "out" is often preferred.
                On the other hand, in oral colloquial speech, and during periods of clear cooling of interstate relations and in journalism, the traditional literary norm is preserved - that is, live in Ukraine, come from Ukraine.
                Thus, in the modern Russian language there coexist a traditional literary norm with the preposition "on" and a relatively new one introduced for reasons of political correctness at the request of Ukraine - with the preposition "v".
                The choice of form in each case should be carried out by the speaker (writer) with the obligatory consideration of the conditions of communication.
                Senior Researcher, Institution of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Institute of Russian Language V.V. Vinogradova RAS Candidate of Philological Sciences OM Grunchenko
                Thus, today there are two traditions. The question is how sustainable the alternative will be and where the line will be between the spoken and official language.
              3. BIGLESHIY
                BIGLESHIY 9 February 2014 12: 21
                +2
                Quote: SRC P-15

                Ukraine in the Russian Empire was considered the outskirts of the state or the border. And it’s right to speak At the border, not At the border. Therefore, it’s right to speak Russian in Ukraine. Read from Gogol - he spoke in Ukraine.

                The question "What is right" in Ukraine "or" in Ukraine "?" emerged in the 1990s after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Patriotic-minded Ukrainians defended their position on the correctness of the use of the form “in Ukraine”, arguing that the preposition “v” was the initial norm of the Russian language to characterize the location of a subject in relation to state education. The preposition "on" in Russian is the initial norm when characterizing the location of a subject in relation to a territory that is not associated with a state formation, therefore it is politically correct to say "in Ukraine", not "in Ukraine." For example, on Sakhalin, on Taimyr, on the Volga, on Ladoga, in the Kuban, in the Pskov region, but in Sweden, in Germany, in the USA, in Chile, in Argentina; in the British Isles, but in Britain; in the Japanese islands, but in Japan; in the Ryazan region, but in the Ryazan principality.

                On the side of the use of the form “in Ukraine” many Russian classics also appear:

                - A.S. Pushkin. "Poltava": "And he transferred the war to Ukraine."

                - L.N. Tolstoy. “War and Peace”: “Bagration has not been joining for a long time (although this is the main goal of all the leaders) because it seems to him that he is putting his army at risk on this march and that it is most beneficial for him to retreat to the left and south, worrying the enemy’s flank and rear and completing their army in Ukraine. ”

                - A.P. Chekhov. Letter to I. Leontiev: “So, I’m going to Ukraine, and you, a crocodile, remain in the tundra.”


                We meet at N.V. Gogol in the story "Terrible revenge": "There is no order in Ukraine “Colonels and Yesauls are biting each other, like dogs.”
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 9 February 2014 14: 58
                  +3
                  Quote: BIGLESHIY
                  The question "What is right" in Ukraine "or" in Ukraine "?" emerged in the 1990s after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Patriotic-minded Ukrainians defended their position on the correctness of the use of the form "in Ukraine"

                  You never know what anyone wants now. Actually, linguistically correct to speak both in Ukraine and in Ukraine. And to think that by changing the preposition, the country will gain more independence and respect in the world, this, excuse me, is a fiction.
          2. Arberes
            Arberes 9 February 2014 11: 47
            +5
            Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
            probably right- I'm not a linguist,
            pimple on the ass and worm on the ass

            Tatanka-brother what arbitrariness?
            About the Russian stove, that was the matter!
            And here again you brought everything to your asses!
            My friend is a linguist by lawlessness!

            hi drinks
            1. BIGLESHIY
              BIGLESHIY 9 February 2014 12: 28
              0
              It’s interesting how the forum would look if we all put it that way
            2. Tatanka Yotanka
              Tatanka Yotanka 9 February 2014 12: 38
              +6
              Quote: Arberes
              And here again you brought everything to your asses!
              My friend is a linguist by lawlessness!

              I read your moralizing
              What to the ass I brought my thoughts
              After all, a post of my medical significance
              I apologize that I started someone
              However in the same medical style
              I tell you, my friend, you believe
              That all of them are not right, but the eggs pinched
              Shutting the door to Europe
              hi drinks
        3. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 9 February 2014 11: 33
          +3
          Quote: Igor39
          On the ass
          In the ass
          A big difference

          That's for sure! Any fagot will confirm this for you. laughing
        4. AnaBat
          AnaBat 9 February 2014 14: 51
          0
          Why in Ukraine? Do not distort the Russian language, correctly in Ukraine. I give an example:
          On the ass
          In the ass
          Big difference smile


          Mighty and strong Russian language good . My to you +
      2. cosmos111
        cosmos111 9 February 2014 14: 30
        +3
        Quote: mirag2
        Haha, but where are they? In Ukraine, or in Israel?

        In Ukraine ((((at least up to one orthodox, even with a finger (((touched.
        The stink was, for the whole WORLD.
        These are their >>>> local maces they rebuild.
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    2. bomg.77
      bomg.77 9 February 2014 09: 00
      +2
      Fucking on horseback militia belay Is there a horse militia there? If you change the uniform, the picture is historical, ancient, "riders attack pilgrims." They are tough with them.
    3. alone
      alone 9 February 2014 11: 25
      +2
      Quote: delfinN
      Over in Israel such orthodox butkutsya, as with good morning. This trio is the same orthodox, only Ukrainian


      The law works there, moreover, efficiently, without any indulgences. And it works against everyone. Remember the arrested president? can we imagine this?
  • Generalissimus
    Generalissimus 9 February 2014 08: 05
    +19
    - Because of your maidan there will soon be nothing!
    “That's because someone eats too much!”
    1. vkrav
      vkrav 9 February 2014 12: 53
      +2
      Immediately I remember a report from "the camp of victorious democracy" - Libya ... The local dick spoke very temperamentally - "While we were fighting for freedom, some bastards raised prices in stores!" (C)
  • delfinN
    delfinN 9 February 2014 08: 12
    +4
    Quote: mirag2
    Haha, but where are they? In Ukraine, or in Israel? laughing

    In Israel, in Israel. They also crush mares. Some kind of Cossacks.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 9 February 2014 08: 19
      +3
      Well, it’s probably their new Moses brought someone else’s housing to East Jerusalem. laughing
    2. makarov
      makarov 9 February 2014 08: 35
      0
      so maybe Tyagnibok sent his fighters to practice? You cannot beat your Uman Hasidim, anyway, but they are "ours". laughing Yes, and I look unusual horses, really trained to bite offenders (?), So then this is a violation of the rights of ungulates. It is necessary to attract trainers ....
      1. densh
        densh 9 February 2014 14: 22
        +3
        Quote: makarov
        so maybe Tyagnibok sent his fighters to practice?

        Cavalry detachment of the Jewish settlement police in the raid to protect the Nahalal settlement from Arab rioters. December 1938
        Interesting shape. It is very similar to the Kubanks, but it is quite possible that it is a copy of the English cavalry. So we can talk about "Jewish Cossacks".
  • vo.dum
    vo.dum 9 February 2014 08: 16
    +7
    On this Maidan, everything was clear for a long time and for the reasons for the adoption and repeal of laws the same ... Only the blind and those who do not want to see anything do not notice it ... The time for words has ended. On one side of Russia, the whole west is on the other. But you can’t retreat .... there is a fight ...
  • andruha70
    andruha70 9 February 2014 09: 02
    +4
    "Grieved" rights!
    it would not hurt, something "different" - "to infringe" ... preferably - between the door and the doorframe ... wassat
  • Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 9 February 2014 09: 06
    +3
    Maidan itself is contagious.
    Looks like Sarajevo 2014 woke up.
    Announce options?
  • vikov
    vikov 9 February 2014 09: 07
    -16%
    The author distorts the facts like a sharpie, the same gas, and why should it be exempted from excise duty? not because for Firtash? After all, they sold their gas.
    Declare a monument to Lenin worth nonsense, here everyone shouts about Galicia and the Nazis, and a lot of monuments of the so-called internationalists, who are not sickly enough in Afghanistan, have killed more than a million at the request of local workers, a moot point.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 9 February 2014 09: 28
      +3
      Dear, judging by what and how you wrote, it would not hurt you to oversleep.
      1. 31231
        31231 9 February 2014 10: 55
        +4
        Judging by his epaulets, he is an ardent Svidomo. And sleep will not help here.
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 9 February 2014 11: 01
          +1
          And I was hoping that he had it after yesterday.
  • ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 9 February 2014 09: 19
    +6
    Honestly, I don’t see the logic in the reasoning of the Natsik gentlemen, as far as I remember in Nuremberg, the whole world, including the West, outlawed national socialism and these same Natsiks are calling for European integration and complain that National Fascism is banned on the outskirts, completely blabbered about their rights - more rights than duties?
    1. Genry
      Genry 9 February 2014 11: 16
      +4
      The current Natsiks are covered by the US and the EU. All their diplomats shout about how they (the Natsiks) are offended by the Berkut. As state bodies they are persecuted, arrested, tried - in short, they are mocked. All this nonsense amicably picked up by SMRAD (mass advertising, agitation, disinformation). And they directly declare that the fascists are not they, but all who are against them. They are activists, fighters for justice, and the rest of the population is nothing or "titushki".

      A lot of money is spinning here.
      20 million USD per week - only through the US Embassy (visible part of the iceberg). The rest is through funds, through business, through illegal immigrants ... Plus, all sorts of humanitarian aid (and from Russia, too). Everything is organized.

      Here is an example of one experienced organizer who owns the manipulation of consciousness. From it you can trace the whole network.
      Links for those with strong psychology and nerves.
      https://www.facebook.com/marko19511
      http://marko19511.livejournal.com/
      1. makarov
        makarov 10 February 2014 05: 02
        0
        "The current Natsiks are covered by the US and the EU."

        Do you mean all the Natsiks, including from the Russian Federation (?), Or only selective ones?
        And who then, in your opinion, covers the gebesh curator of the site 31231, the so-called. "grayish"?
  • vorobey
    vorobey 9 February 2014 09: 40
    +8
    Well, what can I add here. Classic gentlemen, classic.

  • muhomor
    muhomor 9 February 2014 09: 59
    +2
    And the laws have already been repealed. Whose spears to break?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 10: 05
      +5
      Quote: muhomor
      And the laws have already been repealed. Whose spears to break?

      But they didn’t come to power, the goal is not achieved hi And you need to get guarantees for your skin.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 9 February 2014 10: 11
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        goal not reached


        Hi Sanya. Are you out of your mind? laughing
        What kind of power should this country be pulled out of the ass, but there are no resources?
        Russia said it is tolerable, and the payment of debt for gas is only an excuse. Therefore, Jacek did not agree to a compromise. Everyone can steer with grandmas, but alas, without them. drinks If our money immediately surpassed all, then the division of portfolios would begin.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And you need to get guarantees for your skin.


        What guarantees? Sako, Yushchenko, Tymoshenko, Osama, Bakiev and others they already had guarantees. These guarantees cost as much as green pieces of paper and also easily exchange 36 rubles each.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 10: 31
          +6
          Quote: vorobey

          Hi Sanya. Are you out of your mind?

          Well checked yesterday, said no deviations laughing
          Quote: vorobey
          this is also a country to pull out of the ass

          What for? Maidan is spoken in nei well wassat
          Quote: vorobey
          Sako, Yushchenko, Tymoshenko, Osama, Bakiyev and others they already had guarantees.

          But who argues, there were guarantees, but ...
          Saka did not live up to his expectations as a warrior.
          Yushchenko is just a loser.
          Osama, and who gave him guarantees. He played poker with the devil and thought he would win.
          Bakiev, a victim of greed winked
          Great San hi How is it wink Have you come from Sochi to Sait or at home?
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 9 February 2014 10: 47
            +9
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Have you come from Sochi to Sait or at home?


            At home Sanya, at home. Sochi will manage without me.

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            What for? Maidan is spoken in nei well


            The taste and color as they say.

            Do you remember even before the Maidan in my comment that the geyropa will not be taught good one of the Ukrainian brothers called me anally preoccupied.? and you know what I understand - he’s right.
            Better to be preoccupied than satisfied there.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 10: 56
              +5
              Quote: vorobey
              At home Sanya, at home

              Well, that’s right, otherwise there will be something to remember again, and there will be nothing for the children laughing
              Quote: vorobey

              Do you remember even before the Maidan in my comment that the geyropa will not be taught good one of the Ukrainian brothers called me anally preoccupied.?

              Oh, Sasha, you haven’t been to the site for a long time, you would have seen my battles with Akim and Kars, both were for the EU. Akim looked at the geimaidan and came to his senses, and Kars I left him a BROTHER, and he’s my brother Tambov Wolf wassat
              In short, Kars so vehemently supported maidan and association with the EU, that Vadivak had to ask Smirnov to be banned from the eternal ban wassat
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 9 February 2014 11: 03
                +4
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                and Kars - I have BROTHER left to him, and he tells me the Tambov Wolf to you brother In short, Kars so vehemently supported maidan and association with the EU that Vadivak had to ask Smirnov to be banned from the eternal ban


                People tend to make mistakes Sanya. This is our nature. You won’t get anywhere to change beliefs and principles.

                Kars is, in principle, sane. I will never forget how he divorced us all with an article about comparing tanks. Respect.

                Now is the time for rethinking in Ukraine. We do not need your dependence on us. Ukraine has always been self-sufficient. Only in one fist is fighting off shit easier than apart. No one is so tearing Belarus because the Union State and Russia are behind it, but Ukraine has disowned and receives. KARS (Andryukha) if you read this, think about why this is happening to you. Write a brother in PM. not in the face but in PM. drinks
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 11: 18
                  +5
                  Quote: vorobey
                  I will never forget how he spread us all with an article about comparing tanks

                  Well, here he is strong, yes.
                  Quote: vorobey

                  Kars is basically sane

                  Wait, he will come to the website and he will "thank you" for the loan, for a discount on gas, for the Kharkov agreements. With HIS words, Russia is engaged in blackmail and intervenes in business, and Europe makes offers to Ukraine bully
                  Quote: vorobey
                  KARS (Andryukha) if you read this, think about why this is happening to you

                  Yes, I told him and gave a bunch of arguments, but everything that happens in Ukraine is a consequence of the economic and political strangulation of Russia on Ukraine crying
                  1. vorobey
                    vorobey 9 February 2014 11: 45
                    +4
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    , and Europe makes offers to Ukraine


                    Oh, how many girls I deceived so much in my youth. repeat

                    To promise does not mean to marry.
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 12: 32
                      +4
                      Quote: vorobey
                      Oh, how many girls have I deceived in my youth

                      Delete the post before the wife burns winked
                      Quote: vorobey
                      To promise does not mean to marry.

                      Sanya, do not take away the dream from maidan laughing
                      1. vorobey
                        vorobey 9 February 2014 12: 47
                        +5
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Sanya, do not take away the dream from maidan


                        I remembered an old joke when a Russian gets into a brothel.

                        And then one most experienced lady goes to his apartments and after five minutes, enraged, she goes out and shouts indignantly, I can’t do as he wants.

                        The second comes in and the situation repeats. I can’t because he wants to.

                        There is a third one and the situation is repeating again. I can’t because he wants Mom already and says the girls. Well, at least explain how he wants you to be incapable.

                        - How free he wants.

                        Only here the situation is even cooler Europe offers Ukraine also to pay extra for love and affection.
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 13: 06
                        +3
                        Quote: vorobey
                        Europe also offers Ukraine to pay extra for love and affection.

                        Yes, let him suggest, in September, October and November, when the EU-TS battles were on the site for Ukraine, I wrote something like this-I don’t know how, but Putin will do the EU and the USA and what the hell they will sign. And now it will be the same, I don’t know like, but the EU and the US once again (and already familiar to them) will sit in a puddle with Ukraine hi
                        Sanya, the battles were such that they launched Maidan attacks on the Sait, they wanted to bring down the Sait. What were the daily attacks, but they lost angry
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                    3. vorobey
                      vorobey 9 February 2014 12: 55
                      +3
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      until my wife burned


                      Yes, damn it, before the new year, burned.

                      I’ll tell you a long story later. repeat
                    4. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 13: 08
                      +1
                      Quote: vorobey
                      Yes, damn it, before the new year, burned.

                      The main thing that remained alive, the rest is trifles wink
                    5. DMB-78
                      DMB-78 9 February 2014 13: 41
                      +2
                      Quote: vorobey
                      Yes, damn it, before the new year, burned.

                      + out of sympathy and solidarity laughing
                    6. archi.sailor
                      archi.sailor 9 February 2014 15: 38
                      +5
                      why are you so sloppy respected? drinks
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            2. Corsair
              Corsair 9 February 2014 12: 06
              +4
              Quote: vorobey
              Kars is, in principle, sane. I will never forget how he divorced us all with an article about comparing tanks.

              Still, it would probably not hurt to separate the "sinful from the righteous", and to understand that its "technical component" and the political worldview are essentially not the same.

              Adolf Hitler, in certain circles, was also considered a rather good artist ... Which in other ways did not prevent him from being who he was.
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 9 February 2014 12: 24
                +3
                Quote: Corsair
                Quote: vorobey
                Kars is, in principle, sane. I will never forget how he divorced us all with an article about comparing tanks.

                Still, it would probably not hurt to separate the "sinful from the righteous", and to understand that its "technical component" and the political worldview are essentially not the same.

                Adolf Hitler, in certain circles, was also considered a rather good artist ... Which in other ways did not prevent him from being who he was.


                a person with a sharp mind is more sensitive to the situation. As for Hitler, he had neither the technical component of either education nor a sense of humor. If there was a war against us, he would have fought according to the will of Bismarck. I already wrote recently - I repeat.

                vorobey February 6, 2014 19:02 | Crying damned me. Zakhar Prilepin about Maidan, his dreams and Russia


                Hitler now lies in a coffin and swears cursing his idiocy.

                The great Bismarck said the following


                “The power of Russia,” wrote Bismarck, “can only be undermined by the separation of Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia, to pit two parts of a single people and watch how a brother will kill his brother. To do this, you only need to find and nurture traitors among the national elite and, with their help, change the identity of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their kind, without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time.


                And as Brzezinski now echoes him

                “Russia with Ukraine is an Empire (understand, and Ukraine is an empire), but without Ukraine there is no.”

                but back to Bismarck again

                “Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of Russia, which is supported by millions of Russian believers of the Greek confession.
                These latter, even if they are subsequently corroded by international treaties, will reunite with each other just as quickly as disconnected droplets of mercury find this path to each other.
                It is an indestructible state of the Russian nation, strong in its climate, in its spaces and in its unpretentiousness, as well as through the awareness of the need to constantly protect its borders. This State, even after a complete defeat, will remain our offspring, an adversary striving for revenge "


                The red one I allocated for Kars.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 12: 40
                  +4
                  Quote: vorobey
                  Hitler now lies in a coffin and swears cursing his idiocy.

                  Looking at what the Germans had turned into, Hitler had shot himself in a new grave for a long time.
                  Damn, I completely forgot, today Karisha is 45 years old. Sasha is on Jam Day! Accurate with Hennessy, don’t pour a lot of Igoryanich, too little laughing Then in skype I personally congratulate and ... for your health, there will be 5 toasts drinks
                  PS The picture is for Hitler, not for you. And then what else do you think winked
                  1. Corsair
                    Corsair 9 February 2014 12: 55
                    +3
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    PS The picture is for Hitler, not for you. And then what else do you think

                    Need to understand this "blue-eyed Aryans"? lol
                  2. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 12: 57
                    +5
                    Quote: Corsair
                    You must understand this "blue-eyed Aryans"

                    This is the 4th REICH Hitler dreamed about. That is to say, the dream of I.D.I.T.A hi
                  3. cosmos111
                    cosmos111 9 February 2014 13: 06
                    +3
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    4 REICH, which Hitler dreamed of. What can I say, that’s the dream of I.D.I.T.A


                    But they make dreams come true in I.D.O.T.A. into affairs >>>> blue-eyed Aryans of all skin colors, from >>>>> USCHA (((((((((.
                  4. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 13: 15
                    +4
                    Quote: cosmos111
                    blue-eyed Aryans of all skin colors, from >>>>> USCHA ((

                    That's for sure that I completely forgot about Obama. He was going to get divorced from Michelle, so let him get divorced. Then, as a real democrat will marry or marry a normal man. The whole congress will yell bitterly lol So to speak, by example, cheers up gays around the world.
                    And this is a candidate for the post of the first "lady" of the United States wassat
                  5. DMB-78
                    DMB-78 9 February 2014 16: 33
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    .He is getting divorced going to Michelle,

                    maybe that's why he is not up to the Olympics? laughing that's why without it the servants and relaxed? open spy on the phone
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  • Corsair
    Corsair 9 February 2014 13: 01
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In short, Kars so vehemently supported maidan and association with the EU, that Vadivak had to ask Smirnov to be banned from the eternal ban
    It turns out that on the VO at the "top" there is a "Eurolobby" fellow laughing lol wassat
    Alexander, take care of yourself, you are our Snowden ... wink
    1. Kars
      Kars 9 February 2014 13: 08
      +1
      For starters, Romanov is lying, except for the fact that I was banned on November 24, 2013 and Vadivak helped me.

      and who will remember when the Maidan began?

      And for what they banned, by the way, they did not explain to me.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 9 February 2014 13: 22
        +3
        Quote: Kars

        Kars


        Hi, hi. Are you banned from the Maidan?
        1. Kars
          Kars 9 February 2014 13: 37
          +1
          Quote: vorobey
          Hi, hi.

          drinks
          Quote: vorobey
          Are you banned from the Maidan?

          then there was no Maidan, even dispersal of November 30, or mistakes or frauds for Yanukovych.
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 9 February 2014 15: 01
        +1
        Quote: Kars
        And for what they banned, by the way, they did not explain to me.

        Even a foolish dog (cat) senses whose meat has eaten ...
        Interpretation of the proverb:To be ashamed, to be ashamed of a perfect unseemly act.

        Not to feel guilty is not excusable even to animals ...
        1. Kars
          Kars 9 February 2014 17: 12
          +1
          Quote: Corsair
          Even a foolish dog (cat) senses whose meat has eaten ...
          Interpretation of the proverb: To be ashamed, to be ashamed of a perfect unseemly act.

          Not to feel guilty is not excusable even to animals ...


          Why is this in the order of delirium or verbal diarrhea?

          and by the way, everything that the novels he wrote showed that he was a liar and also confirmed my assessment of his mental development.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 February 2014 17: 26
            +4
            Quote: Kars
            and by the way all that the novels wrote showed that he was a liar

            Did I lie? Kars, well, damn your and my komenty past can read anyone, what is it?
            Quote: Kars
            For starters, Romanov is lying

            Show me specifically where I cheated and I will naid your past komenty and lay out.
            Now Sperow will take care of your re-education so that the breakdown is zero laughing
          2. 31231
            31231 9 February 2014 18: 31
            +3
            Show me specifically where I cheated and I will naid your past komenty and lay out.

            Alexander, do not scare them. Makarov already wrote me down in kgbeshniki, for the fact that I just looked in his comments for what he started to brush off.
          3. Kars
            Kars 9 February 2014 18: 51
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Did I lie? Kars, well, damn your and my komenty past can read anyone, what is it?

            Yes, you lied. I knocked my comments about me in a heap as you prefer, not following the chronology.
            And according to your words, they banned me when I was protecting the Maidan, but it wasn’t there yet, and brother don’t leave me, not then, but a couple of days ago you wrote in the subject where holy Russia was touched. And I repeat once again that the Tambov wolf is your brother.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Now Sperow will take care of your re-education so that the breakdown is zero

            He will not be engaged in my re-education.
          4. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 10 February 2014 05: 57
            +1
            Quote: Kars
            Yes, you lied. I knocked my comments about me in a heap as you prefer, not following the chronology

            Listen, yes, we had a couple of hundred correspondence with you and the chronology had nothing to do with it. First, I used the numbers to prove the inferiority and disadvantage of signing an association. You, in turn, said how bad Russia is and that the EU for Ukraine investments, markets and all that.
            Quote: Kars
            And according to your words they banned me when I defended the Maidan

            Association with the EU you defended and defended laughing
            Quote: Kars
            brother, don’t leave me, not then, but a couple of days ago I wrote in the subject where holy Russia was touched.

            Did it bother you that Russian called you brother?
            Quote: Kars

            He will not be engaged in my re-education.

            He will not be left out.
      3. Corsair
        Corsair 9 February 2014 21: 36
        +1
        Quote: Kars
        and by the way, everything that the novels he wrote showed that he was a liar and also confirmed my assessment of his mental development.
        Your so-called "grades" definitely work for "ban", and I don't think that next time the administration will be so generous in making a decision about your "rehabilitation" ...
      4. Kars
        Kars 9 February 2014 21: 46
        +1
        Quote: Corsair
        Your so-called "grades" definitely work for "ban"

        so estimates or support for the Maidan?

        Quote: Corsair
        and I don’t think

        I noticed long ago that you are not strong at this.
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  • Name
    Name 9 February 2014 11: 46
    +1
    Quote: vorobey
    These guarantees cost as much as green pieces of paper and are also easily exchanged for 36 rubles.

    And all the same, they begin the search for the very ones that we have at 36 rubles:"The first deputy chairman of the Kiev city administration, Anatoly Golubchenko, said that, according to primitive calculations, the amount is 24 million hryvnias ($ 3 million). And we are talking only about the confrontation on Hrushevsky Street, at the entrance to the government quarter."

    Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/07/02/2014/904045.shtml
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    2. vorobey
      vorobey 9 February 2014 12: 05
      +3
      Quote: name
      http://top.rbc.ru/politics/07/02/2014/904045.shtml


      So China then sells goods either for rubles or for dollars. Rubles are not listed by the Jews, so they have to look for dollars.

      By the way, authorities are hoping for sponsors ....
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  • delfinN
    delfinN 9 February 2014 10: 04
    +8
    It's time for Berkut to work
  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 9 February 2014 10: 06
    +9
    Dyko, rabbits, silly, how can you not understand that what is normal for us does not suit you. Because We know your future - you will live in the image and likeness of Bulgaria. We will feed you with fairy tales, and you will faithfully look into our mouths and do whatever we command. Because we are the most democratic, and you are Slavs. Therefore, you are superfluous on this "celebration of life" in our Eurapaean family. And we only need your resources.
    This is approximately how Westerners reason about Ukraine. And only really does not see what is happening in reality. But those that live closer to Geyrope have long been serving the green paper god, and not the mind and moral principles. Therefore, they are weapons in the hands of the owners. You have to dig deeper here. "Grow to the root", in the words of the Russian classic.
    And that’s all, gentlemen, it is up to you to decide whether you will work for yourself in your factories and lands, or if someone who feeds you with fairy tales and promises will dance you. winked
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 9 February 2014 10: 28
      +4
      Quote: Rurikovich
      ... And only really does not see what is happening in reality. But those that live closer to Geyrope have long been serving the green paper god, and not the mind and moral principles. Therefore, they are weapons in the hands of the owners. You have to dig deeper here. “Grow to the root,” in the words of a Russian classic. And everything, gentlemen, depends on you, whether you will work in your factories and lands for yourself, or the one who feeds you with fairy tales and promises will dance you.


      good

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  • svp67
    svp67 9 February 2014 10: 21
    +1
    "Grieved" rights!
    It would be better "NIPPED"
  • Stinger
    Stinger 9 February 2014 10: 32
    +6
    Laws passed as in Europe. It remains, for the sake of completeness of impressions, to introduce methods of coercion to their execution. That with the infringed rights everything became clear.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 9 February 2014 10: 53
      +2
      How would the West react if you write a small preamble in these laws: "Based on European values ​​and in strict accordance with the legislation of the EU countries ..."?
      1. Egoza
        9 February 2014 11: 20
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        "Based on European values ​​and in strict accordance with the legislation of the EU countries ..."?

        All the same, they would have demanded to cancel! based on the fact that in Europe the punishments are MUCH harder !!! And in our country - so 30% of what is required by "European standards" laughing For "interest" you can see here:

        Laws of a number of countries on holding rallies and public events

        http://ria.ru/law_meeting/20120521/654426496.html#usa
        1. sazhka3
          sazhka3 12 February 2014 21: 22
          0
          According to geyropersky norms leave se6. Here you are not here ..
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 9 February 2014 10: 52
    +4
    They are now "restrained" in prostration What to do? no one disperses .. and the lice are already tortured .. Soon spring will start to hide shit on the Maidan .. the urine will go bad .. and the syringes will start to thaw out of the snow ...))) They are given power "Take .. deal with the economy if you can. .people work without salary, enterprises stop Russia while gas supplies Ukraine again does not pay .. The West pays only to the militants to smash everything and everyone and shout in the center of Kiev and other regions .. Poles and Romanians are ready to help at any time .. That's just you will have to address them respectfully "Pan .." and bow your head, lowering your eyes .. Seeing a drunk and armed Bandera from afar, they will shout loudly with a bow "Glory to the heroes .." otherwise you will get a whip on the back or even worse "mos ... m" all..
  • 31231
    31231 9 February 2014 10: 59
    +4
    In Germany, turning to the policeman for “you” is regarded as an insult, and a drunk Jura would have to pay a fine of 600 euros, and for waving his arms in front of the policeman - up to 1000 euros.


    So like Jura already felt the German law at Frankfurt airport.
    Understood it can be seen there.
  • polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 9 February 2014 11: 01
    +3
    The laws were abolished in vain! It was they who gave the reason, to pass all these nits on the sly. And now: "for what we fought for, we ran into it!"
  • BIGLESHIY
    BIGLESHIY 9 February 2014 11: 03
    +1
    The indignation of our European and American "friends" is from nothing else. Thus, the EU Commissioner for Enlargement and Neighborhood Policy Stefan Fule, who recently recently visited Ukraine to the point of annoyance, expressed his concern about the initiatives of representatives of the Party of Regions: “I’m very concerned about new laws that restrict freedom and contradict European aspirations и obligations Of Ukraine. "

    That’s all it says what the EU wants from Ukraine. That is, after the satisfaction of Europe, Ukraine will always have something to it.
  • AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 9 February 2014 11: 11
    +5
    Quote: makarov
    I hate Gorbachev for the collapse of the USSR, but Yanukovych with the gang, I hate no less !!!!!!
    1. makarov
      makarov 9 February 2014 12: 18
      0
      Well, judging by your opinion, then the revolution in Ingushetia was due to the active operation of the law on the Pale of Settlement. It is no secret that Jews and also Bundists were the largest in the ratio among the RSDLP. And "a miracle happened", in the form of a revolution, with the death of a mass of PEOPLE.
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 9 February 2014 11: 21
    +4
    the head was infringed during childbirth. so much so that the whole brain leaked in the ass
  • sazhka3
    sazhka3 9 February 2014 11: 34
    +1
    Trapped .. Rather pinched and "twitch" there is no possibility. The second tranche when they come to "themselves" .. Clowns .. "BLITZ KRIG" or "hit" on the drum .. Learn History
  • sazhka3
    sazhka3 9 February 2014 11: 44
    +2
    Even from the photo .. From which hospital they were taken to the "maydaunatym" .. From the table in the American Embassy To companions .. Are there any hospitals in Ukraine?
    1. medvedleopard
      medvedleopard 9 February 2014 11: 50
      +3
      There is no space left, the media are so bombarded with spam that brains are bursting!
    2. makarov
      makarov 9 February 2014 11: 55
      0
      Good afternoon, Alexander.
      And why is it suddenly you renamed yourself in the 3rd. Before, weren't you just "Sasha"?
      1. sazhka3
        sazhka3 9 February 2014 13: 55
        +2
        Quote: makarov
        renamed in the 3rd

        For excessive talkativeness, a life cycle is appointed. With a ban and nails. Kyu ...
  • AnaBat
    AnaBat 9 February 2014 12: 10
    +2
    In Kiev, on Leo Tolstoy Square, more than a thousand people gathered to participate in a subbotnik on Euromaidan.
    Recall that on Saturday, February 8, activists will arrange cleaning on Independence Square. They invite all comers of Kiev and guests of the capital to help them. They promise to give out inventory to everyone who comes.
    Cleaning will be organized by the commandants, both in the tent camp and at the barricades.


    http://gigamir.net/news/kyiv/capital/pub586707

    It looks like they will clean their city there before the end of the year, but they will!
    1. densh
      densh 9 February 2014 12: 35
      +4
      They did not succeed in making a tidy. Papuasy opposed- "The dirtier, the stronger."
      Kievans:
  • densh
    densh 9 February 2014 12: 44
    +5
    Quote: densh
    Papuans opposed

    It is interesting to receive in Kiev either reports about the dispersal of civilians by the authorities, then about the dispersal of peaceful people by protesters.
    What a diverse life people have. what
    1. Evp Kolovrat
      Evp Kolovrat 9 February 2014 19: 04
      0
      Well, the game is unwashed, in a word - LUMPENS
    2. bibet
      bibet 9 February 2014 20: 04
      -3
      whose troll are you? Yanyka or Putin?
      1. 31231
        31231 9 February 2014 23: 14
        +1
        whose troll are you? Yanyka or Putin?

        My God, who only does not crawl into the light.
        Well, why don't you sit on the Censor and the Ukrainian Truth? After all, there are all your own, and you immediately cut out the "trolls of Putin and Yanyk".
  • TOR70
    TOR70 9 February 2014 13: 17
    -8
    Slaves do not understand. What is being taken from them. First defeat the slave in yourself and then talk about others. I want to say to very many Russians one thing: restore order at your place, then look at the neighbors.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 9 February 2014 13: 54
      +6
      Yes, who will look at you ??? scum Tipo Nuland? so to it and address ...........
    2. sazhka3
      sazhka3 9 February 2014 14: 31
      +1
      As Churov thinks so it will be. Great as always with nothing. Democracy however ..
  • kiainform
    kiainform 9 February 2014 13: 19
    -6
    I ask for permission at any time to speak at the Department of Theoretical Mechanics of PSUPS SPb PSU (Polytech), Gorny, SPb GASU, the former LSU now GU SPB with a report or message 10-15 minutes, about which all employees of Mossad, MI-6, CIA located in the building FSB (consider FSB) have already been familiarized. I ask you to support the scientists of MGSU (MISS), Angarsk University, Irkutsk Technical University who spoke out against swindlers of swindlers Lysenko monopolists, pushing for 100 million rubles, the criminal console RDM published by SP 14.13330.2011 "Construction in earthquake-prone areas" SNIP II -7-81 * (according to which, extra foodies in the occupied territory of the former USSR to the 4th liberal Reichs, must live in RC coffins), which has already been abandoned by all non-occupied countries, where the Zionists themselves in Israel, the United States, are building houses for themselves with seismic isolation, damping, compliance, depreciation, which confirmed the stability of the two twin towers of the World Trade Center, which was rammed by two planes (they swayed and damped), which were blown up by a specialist from the Mossad, as stated by US scientists, who were almost all killed by the Mossad secret services in conjunction with the CIA. For example, Philip Marshall, the man who told the truth about the events of September 11, 2001, was killed. Former American National Security agent, author of the 9/11 investigation Philip Marshall and his children were killed, according to PressTV. For more details, read Maxim Akimov: US Crimes. Americrimes. Genocide, ecocide, psychocide, as principles of domination 608 pages More: http://www.labirint.ru/books/420200/
    1. yur
      yur 9 February 2014 23: 15
      +1
      What kind of nonsense?
  • Suhov
    Suhov 9 February 2014 13: 21
    +2
    «Infringed" rights!

    For how the "children" amuse themselves,
    it’s time for them to teshilki
    or wreck
    or nip!
  • stroporez
    stroporez 9 February 2014 13: 51
    +1
    which are necessary in a democratic society, established on the basis of general social consensus
    If this is about Maidan, then it remains to state ---- insanity grows stronger .........
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 9 February 2014 14: 35
    +1
    We need an experiment, if they want to go to Geyropa, then they need to bring the police and special forces from the USA and several European countries there and let them cleanse the Maidan, guided by THEIR LAWS. So there will be a real fulfillment of the Dream of ENTERING Geyropu or somewhere else, and practically.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 10 February 2014 09: 19
      0
      Quote: tank64rus
      Need an experiment
      --- From such experiments, Bulgaria, Romania, etc. won’t bend with hunger ........
  • sazhka3
    sazhka3 9 February 2014 14: 51
    +3
    Cartoon about 38 parrots. When the baby elephant says "well then I will go to all four directions." And he is told that it is impossible .. If you go to one, you can not go back well, etc. How far the Authors looked .. More than that, SEE.
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 9 February 2014 15: 00
    +3
    In my opinion, a lot of attention is paid to these "ghouls" and "ghouls" fighting for the European Union, but if you look at the photo of this "trinity", the question immediately arises: "And you gentlemen have long been discharged from Kashchenko (and graduation, excuse the written exams the commission was conducted by two anxious amerovskie women Nuland and Psaki). And it is not necessary to "shaggy grandmother" especially to this German fist fighter about how they want to take care of the welfare of their people: you would first decide which people you belong to, where you pay taxes and in the end whose citizens are you?
  • Severok
    Severok 9 February 2014 15: 50
    +2
    A definite plus to the author!
    Healthy irony, sound analysis and a clear presentation of the point of view!

    It is high time "maydanutyh" to the nail, as well as their instigators!
  • polly
    polly 9 February 2014 15: 53
    +3
    God "infringed" on their rights when he deprived of their mind ...
  • Various
    Various 9 February 2014 17: 14
    +2
    In general, all these unrest in Ukraine, in my opinion, have a deeper meaning, this is a deliberately planned provocation directed primarily by the West against Russia, they are all waiting for the same thing to happen here, they say, "Down with Putin" slogans, etc. etc. To the West, he is already a very large log in their eyes - he does not allow to completely destroy Russia morally, spiritually and physically. Thank God, our people live with their brains and understand all this.
  • sinukvl
    sinukvl 9 February 2014 17: 32
    +3
    They are not right, their brains were infringed and it seems that they were still in childhood.
    1. ekzorsist
      ekzorsist 9 February 2014 17: 59
      +1
      You can not infringe on what they simply have not laid down by nature ...
      It’s just that they have a menopause and an autumn exacerbation, so that they need a psychiatric hospital, a psychiatric hospital !!!
      Heal and shoot them, heal and shoot ... so as not to smell anymore when this scum.
      1. bibet
        bibet 9 February 2014 18: 41
        0
        where the moderators are looking, what’s completely stunned is calls for murder, such writers should be immediately removed from the forum
    2. bibet
      bibet 9 February 2014 19: 39
      -5
      I want to wish you more dear to everyone dear to everyone with the Soviet Union Ava - you cover the crimes against humanity that occurred in the Soviet Union, despising millions of dead people
  • ekzorsist
    ekzorsist 9 February 2014 17: 55
    +1
    Quote: Trance
    Trance

    ... Clever and ... beautiful and right !!!
    Indeed, these are necessary for the stage and television, and not for the bluish-pinkish ornate tails with houses 2-3-4 ... and other crazy projects for.
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  • bibet
    bibet 9 February 2014 19: 34
    -4
    Quote: TOR70
    Slaves do not understand. What is being taken from them. First defeat the slave in yourself and then talk about others. I want to say to very many Russians one thing: restore order at your place, then look at the neighbors.

    it so happened that from the territory of the Russian Federation they drove into neighbors mainly with weapons and ended up with rivers of blood - Ukraine, Finland, Poland, Germany, Hungary, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia, now Russia wants to shed the blood of Ukrainians again capturing the East and Crimea ?? ?
  • bibet
    bibet 9 February 2014 19: 45
    -2
    Quote: densh


    sho you don’t say, your acquaintance means of those you despise - the right sector, Bandera, zapadentsy lol
  • vikov
    vikov 9 February 2014 20: 27
    -3
    Quote: bibet
    where the moderators are looking, what’s completely stunned is calls for murder, such writers should be immediately removed from the forum


    What for? they so diligently destroy the so-called Russian world. wink