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We are not Russians, we are Russians!

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I just want to express my view - the look of a young man representing the generation of those who are up to 25 years old. I was born in Russia and I don’t know another country.

It is not about politics, economics, the army and the rest. I would talk about us with you, about our life, about our country, culture.

I am from Bashkiria. Different peoples live with us: Russian, Tatar, Bashkir and others. There are a great many peoples in Russia. And, as it seems to me, this is the wealth of our country, our advantage.

In Russia every now and then focuses on the national question. However, we all live in the world, we do not have national tension, there is no intolerance. We consider ourselves a single nation, we consider ourselves Russians. We are of different nationalities and religions, for example, I am a Tatar (Muslim). A person can go with a friend to support him in Epiphany bathing, or go on a holiday, Kurban Bayram, while both consider themselves to be friends, brothers not in the nation and faith, but in spirit.

If you look at my friends, it becomes clear: no one asks about the nation, nor about faith either. We are one, we have one culture, one view, one world view. Of course, yes, yes, and yes again, there are conflicts and some kind of hostility and questions. It has always been, is and will be. But I am talking about us, living side by side, the peoples of Russia!

Is it possible, communicating on the VO website, to understand that we are Russians? More likely no than yes. Increasingly, only that we are Russians is used, and history lead from the very beginning of Russia-Rus, remember the formation of Russia, the unification of peoples in Russia. We all know it very well, but remember the history of the Russian State, it’s a multinational one, we’ll remember the Russian-French war, 1-th world, 2-th world, there all Russia was ...

What am I leading to? An abyss appears between nations (gradually and imperceptibly). We ourselves are estranged and alienated from each other. And most likely the gap first begins from the center of our country. I can say this, I am in Moscow, and I have quite a few friends all over Russia. Love for our country as a whole disappears, we allow talking about its separation, is it worth reminding how recently they said on the radio who to give Siberia to? And after all, such a statement is outraged not only by the Russian population of our country, agree. We are trying to introduce a culture of egoism, praising and highlighting every nation, culture, one set higher than the other. Look what is happening now: we are divided, set against each other. I read an article stating that the Tatars want to disconnect from Russia. I am a Tatar and do not want to, I am proud of my country. I am proud to live in Russia. If it is the nation that needs confirmation, then hundreds of thousands and millions of people and all the peoples of our country will agree with me!

The negative trend is manifested even in the media. For example, it is said that in Kazan, in Ufa, suddenly there were some kind of nationalist marches or speeches. We in the regions learn from the federal media that we have, it turns out, something quite bad is happening, what a surprise! At the same time, the real picture is either not entirely true, or it is not something huge or as frightening as the journalists imagine. Yes, there is something similar, there are people who want it or think so, but they are a minority. News served in a deliberately negative way, pursuing some goals.

We are all people of one big country. No matter how hard anyone tries to bring discord between us, we must understand that we have more in common than this can be imagined. We all walk on the same ground and breathe the same air. We love one country under the proud name of Russia! And let us learn a lesson from what is happening in the world of chaos, unite and fight back in a united front, we simply have no other choice. Possible external aggression of a country (whether it be the United States, China or European countries), problems with banditry, extremism, or, for example, a problem with migrants. However, we will cope with all this overnight, if we just stop squabbling between ourselves and stop thinking only about ourselves.

Look at how countries fall, how people persecute with each other on national soil, on religion. Brothers, friends, neighbors become enemies. Let us not allow this, and we will understand who is our enemy and who is our friend. Together we are strength, together we are RUSSIANS ...

PS The words of all the beloved Americans about our country, we all remember about you, but remember again!

The war will end, everything will settle down and settle down. And we will throw everything that we have: all the gold, all the material power of fooling and fooling people!

The human brain, the consciousness of people are capable of change. Having sowed chaos there, we quietly replace their values ​​with false ones and make them believe in these false values. How? We will find our like-minded people, our allies in Russia itself.

Episode by episode, the tragedy of the death of the most rebellious people on earth, the final and irreversible extinction of their self-consciousness, will be grandiose in scale. For example, from art and literature we gradually eradicate its social essence; disaccustom artists and writers - discourage them from being engaged in depicting and researching the processes that take place in the depths of the masses. Literature, theaters, cinema - everything will depict and glorify the most base human feelings.

We will in every way support and raise the so-called artists, who will begin to implant and grind into the human consciousness the cult of sex, violence, sadism, betrayal - in a word, of all BADNESS. In government we will create chaos and confusion.

We will quietly, but actively and constantly contribute to the tyranny of officials, the prosperity of bribe takers and unprincipled. Red tape and red tape will be elevated to virtue. Honesty and decency will be ridiculed and no one will need them, they will turn into a relic of the past. Rudeness and arrogance, lies and deceit, drunkenness and drug addiction, animal fear of each other and shamelessness, betrayal, nationalism and enmity of peoples — above all enmity and hatred of the Russian people — we will cultivate all this cleverly and imperceptibly, it will flourish with terry color.

And only a few, very few will guess or even understand what is happening. But we will put such people in a helpless position, turn into a laughingstock, we will find a way to slander them and declare them a scum of society. We will wrest spiritual roots, vulgarize and destroy the foundations of people's morality.

We will shatter thus, generation after generation. We will take on people from childhood and adolescence, and we will always make the main bet ON YOUTH - we will decompose, corrupt and corrupt it. We will make of her cynics, vulgar and cosmopolitan ...
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  1. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 8 February 2014 07: 32
    +14
    Russia is a civilization, it has no nationalities, but there are nationalities included in this civilization.
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 8 February 2014 07: 58
      +47
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      Russia is a civilization, it has no nationalities, but there are nationalities included in this civilization.

      I don’t know, maybe you consider yourself a nationality, I don’t. And by nationality I am Russian, and the author is Tatar, and I don’t see anything wrong with that. When the Union was the fifth column in the passport, it made someone worse? Well, maybe except for some individuals.
      And rather, the gap primarily begins from the center of our country. I can say this, I’m in Moscow,

      And this is not surprising, people come to Moscow mainly for easy money (models, showmen, etc.) and all kinds of "foam", such as wild mountaineers. I think that things are no better in St. Petersburg. I am glad that the author is proud of Russia, but the Union aroused even greater pride in me, perhaps the youth cannot understand this.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 8 February 2014 08: 14
        +13
        Yes, "foam" comes to Moscow not only from Asia, but also from other countries that are considered developed.
        From there, too, a bunch of shit rides.
        If we talk about the "nationality" of crime, migrant workers take away their phones, and who mainly gets caught in economic crimes? -Khodorkovsky, Polonsky and others like them, their name is "legion".
        Who is eating away at our society, somehow established after the "fighting" 90s?
        Why are our political (not opponents, namely, enemies) - people from the 5th column of the media - "echo", Nemtsov, Kasparov?
        Who are they?
        Shall we talk about the "nationality" of the criminals?
      2. Ivan Tarasov
        Ivan Tarasov 8 February 2014 08: 31
        +31
        ele1285
        Russian is not a false term nationality.
        Russian is an affiliation to civilization.
        There are many nationalities in Russia: Rusich, Tatars, Bashkirs, etc. Therefore, the definition - I am Russian Tatar, or Russian Georgian, is quite fair.
        Man calls civilization and belonging to a particular nationality.
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 8 February 2014 08: 54
          +3
          Quote: Ivan Tarasov
          Russian is an affiliation to civilization.
          There are many nationalities in Russia: Rusichi,
          Man calls civilization and belonging to a particular nationality.

          What civilization, technogenic, human?
          As far as I remember, Rusichs, this is presumably one of the Slavic tribes, like living on the Ros River, or, according to official history, some Scandinavian tribe.
          And the Russian PEOPLE has incorporated a LOT of nationalities such as Meria, Murom, all, Slavic tribes and many others. Well, no matter how, Russian, does not fall under the definition of nationality
          1. Ivan Tarasov
            Ivan Tarasov 8 February 2014 09: 29
            +2
            ele1285
            Russian is not a nationality, but a representative of culture.
            Slavic tribes ceased to divide and merged into a single culture, and then other tribes began to join. Nationalities with a similar culture merged into a single one, the same nationalities whose culture was different and could not fully fit in, continued to identify themselves, but at the same time, joined a stronger culture.
            Therefore, if a person considers himself Russian and is not identified by nationality, then he is a representative of a nationality previously merged into a common culture. Conversely, if a person identifies himself by nationality, then he is a representative of a nationality that has entered the general culture, but has retained an original part of the culture.
            1. ele1285
              ele1285 8 February 2014 09: 51
              +4
              Quote: Ivan Tarasov
              Russian is not a nationality, but a representative of culture.

              Quote: Ivan Tarasov
              Man calls civilization and belonging to a particular nationality.

              Quote: Ivan Tarasov
              Russian is an affiliation to civilization.

              So who is Russian? Representative of culture, nationality or civilization?
              Or is it primarily the RUSSIAN people. With your culture, civilization different from the East and the West and many nationalities included in it? It seems to me that you did not see the forests behind the trees.
              1. zart_arn
                zart_arn 8 February 2014 14: 41
                -2
                Ivan Tarasov seems to be trying to solve the national question and his solution (in the sense of Ivan Tarasov) is simple - there is no national question in Russia. Indulging the current authorities, Ivan Tarasov deepens this chronic disease, which was always and not trying to cure this disease, you can achieve its generalization or malignancy.
              2. Ivan Tarasov
                Ivan Tarasov 8 February 2014 15: 54
                0
                ele1285
                It's simple.
                Russian is a representative of civilization.
                Russian culture is the main part of Russian civilization. If a person does not identify with nationalities, then he is a representative of Russian civilization and Russian culture.
                And on the contrary, if it is identified with a nationality, it is a representative of Russian civilization and that nationality with whose culture it identifies itself.
          2. predator.3
            predator.3 8 February 2014 10: 24
            +23
            Guys, and I will say in the words of our famous poet Mustai Karim:

            ... I am not Russian, but Russian. Be called
            So forever, my soul, be proud!
            Give five lives! They can equal
            My fate is the only life.

            Russian with Bashkir - satellites on the road,
            Eateries - since the mash is on the table,
            Companions - on military alert,
            Forever somogilniki - in the ground.

            You gave the taste to my bread and water
            He turned my steppes alive,
            You are my people, for the joy of the people,
            With other nations related.
            1. ele1285
              ele1285 8 February 2014 10: 56
              +2
              Quote: predator.3
              Guys, I'll tell you

              I respect, excuse me, I deleted some of the text, but with the same success they said “the Soviet people.” Which in the end did not turn out to be. And every Bashkir sounds almost as good as a Russian, by the way, why not Russian?
            2. demel2
              demel2 8 February 2014 12: 42
              0
              Well, why now there are no such poets? Judging by the zombie man, we have one poet Reznik
          3. Patton5
            Patton5 8 February 2014 10: 40
            +10
            That is, you offer us to abandon the idea that we are Russian? Kukish to you peasant-proletarian !!!!!
            1. 222222
              222222 8 February 2014 10: 50
              +4
              Patton5 SU Today, 10:40 ↑
              .. "to say that we are RUSSIAN" .... In the ear - "this is NOT tolerant" .. And they will come up with the same expression .. A little something - "this is NOT tolerant" ....
            2. ODESSA
              ODESSA 8 February 2014 11: 29
              +8
              Quote: Patton5
              That is, you offer us to abandon the idea that we are Russian? Kukish to you peasant-proletarian !!!!!

              That's right, the main task is to kill the Russian in Russian. Ukrainians are already killing Russian, but so far they haven’t succeeded. Wait and see!
              1. 222222
                222222 8 February 2014 11: 39
                +5
                "I am Russian! With my heart, spirit, and a shudder of my skin.
                I am proud of my ancient nickname.
                Don’t give me, even for a moment, at least in some way, God,
                Not become a Russian, but someone else! .. "
                (Evgeny Skvoreshnev)
                . words are completely here .. http: //general-ivanov.livejournal.com/547149.html
                from the article above the above site: "It looks like being Russian today is
                this is extremism in itself ... "
                1. ele1285
                  ele1285 8 February 2014 15: 44
                  0
                  Quote: 222222
                  "I am Russian! With my heart, spirit, and a shudder of my skin.

                  yes guys respect, but that was before 08,08,08
                  a lot of time has passed
            3. Asgard
              Asgard 8 February 2014 12: 25
              +1
              I READ the whole branch decided to return to your comment Patton5))
              Russian as a designation of belonging was invented during the proletarian revolution and initially it had a designation as a designation of the Slavic people. that is, to separate the Slavs into a separate nationality ....
              This did not work, the Bashkirs, Tatars, Georgians and Mari, Kazakhs and Armenians all became Russian. since they belong to the civilization of Rus (Aryans))
              Before the Jewish division into nationalities, on Midgard-earth there lived 4 peoples - LightRases, D'Arias, H'Aryans and Rasens (I am writing in transcription how the names of the Clans sounded correctly)) - this is a white RA-sa .....
              Genetic mutations have spoiled People as a community and civilization, divided them into groups according to invented signs of language, habitat, a characteristic nose and religion)))))
              This does not prevent us from communicating with each other directly, but introduces a split through the mass media of TV and the priest in preaching, which is the same thing .....
              We all people,
              division by ... Analities artificial &&&&
              People, all together (in themselves)) must find God \ Knowledge /, and cursing and exalting a group of people_We can only destroy ourselves ....
              Since each PARTICIPANT of human society is VALUE ...... even if she calls herself a Jew)))))
              1. 222222
                222222 8 February 2014 12: 54
                +5
                "... Yeshua claims that all people are good. In order to refute this statement, Pilate shows him an evil person - the centurion Mark Rat-Slayer, who beats the person under investigation. However, Ha-Nozri still remains with his former conviction. When the procurator asks Yeshua again: "Now tell me that it is you who use the words" good people "all the time? Do you call everyone that?" - Yeshua calmly replies: "There are no all ... evil people in the world." And he also considers Rat Slayer kind, adding at the same time: "... He really is an unhappy person. Since the good people disfigured him, he became cruel and callous."
                (Mikhail Afanasevich Bulgakov “The Master and Margarita”, conversation of the fifth procurator of Judea Pontius Pilate and the impoverished tramp Yeshua Ga-Nozri ..)
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 8 February 2014 13: 54
                  +6
                  Quote: 222222
                  "... Yeshua claims that all people are good. In order to refute this statement, Pilate shows him an evil person - the centurion Mark Rat-Slayer, who beats the person under investigation. However, Ha-Nozri still remains with his former conviction. When the procurator asks Yeshua again: "Now tell me that it is you who use the words" good people "all the time? Do you call all of them that way?"

                  I agree.
                  The plot is filled with the philosophy of human love (which many of us so lack today), and is one of the cornerstones of the novel.
              2. Patton5
                Patton5 8 February 2014 13: 04
                +2
                Since each PARTICIPANT of human society is VALUE ...... even if she calls herself a Jew)))))
                Do I say the opposite?! But I am a RUSSIAN person and I am proud of this fact !!!
              3. ele1285
                ele1285 8 February 2014 15: 55
                +3
                Quote: Asgard
                division by ... Analities artificial &&&&
                People, all together (in themselves)) must find God \ Knowledge /, and cursing and exalting a group of people_We can only destroy ourselves ....
                Since each PARTICIPANT of human society is VALUE ...... even if she calls herself a Jew)))))

                Yes, and Ukrainians yell that they are at least 140 thousand years old, and I’ll tell you, any part is valuable when it’s in the people. And without the people, throw it out like a dog.
                and a little less fog in my head
                1. ODESSA
                  ODESSA 8 February 2014 18: 36
                  +5
                  Quote: ele1285
                  and Ukrainians scream that they are at least 140 thousand years old,

                  I'm not yelling, they consider me a Ukrainian, but in fact Ukraine is an artificial education, and the name is controversial. I am a Slav! That's the point, the rest is not important. Bismarck said: We will win when we prove to the Ukrainians and Balorussians that they are not Russians. Now we see how Russians have been killed in Ukrainians for 23 years in Ukraine. They kill everywhere, from advertising, through a census of history by pseudo-historians, to mediocre bookings of ex-presidents. A built whole ideological machine, but it looks like it turned out to be a zombie, this was proved by the current events in Ukraine, it seems impossible to kill a Russian. Let them look at the guys from "Berkut" with St. George ribbons and the words: Moscow is behind! -This is an example of resilience! And look at the jackals with Molotov cocktails and chains and bulldozers! UF)) spoke out, it became easier in my soul ...
                  1. ele1285
                    ele1285 9 February 2014 04: 25
                    0
                    Quote: ODESSA
                    I'm not screaming, they consider me a Ukrainian, but in fact Ukraine is an artificial entity, and the name is controversial. I am a Slav! That's the point, the rest is not important.

                    Damn, buddy, a poet dies in you, without laughing. If you pick up a rhyme, it will be gorgeous, than Blok reminds me.
              4. Ivan Tarasov
                Ivan Tarasov 8 February 2014 17: 29
                +2
                Asgard
                I fully support.
            4. velikoros-xnumx
              velikoros-xnumx 8 February 2014 12: 29
              +4
              Quote: Patton5
              That is, you offer us to abandon the idea that we are Russian?

              And this is not the first time. In Soviet times, famous poets, writers, scientists and athletes of Russian origin were called "the famous (great) Soviet writer ", for example, during the Soviet era, Vasily Shukshin was called that way, and similar well-known representatives of national minorities were designated ethnically, for example, the famous Kyrgyz poet Sayakbai Karalaev. By hook or by crook, they are trying to make us forget who we are, where we came from, our history, our roots. Personally, the Russians distort me from the phrase.Today name of the country, the Russian Federation, I associate with something consonant - the Russian reservation (well, although the constitution allows an equivalent definition of Russia)
        2. velikoros-xnumx
          velikoros-xnumx 8 February 2014 12: 14
          +2
          Quote: Ivan Tarasov
          Russian is not a false term nationality. Russian is a civilization. There are many nationalities in Russia: Rusichs, Tatars, Bashkirs, etc. Therefore, the definition - I am Russian Tatar, or Russian Georgian, is quite fair.

          Absolutely right now the Russian concept is not ethnic, but mental, and you correctly indicated
          Russian Tatar, or Russian Georgian
          first of all, Russian (as belonging to Russian civilization), in the second belonging to an ethnic group, for ethnic Russians it turns out simply -RUSSIAN
        3. Andrey57
          Andrey57 8 February 2014 13: 17
          +2
          Russian is not a false term nationality.

          There are many nationalities in Russia: Rusichs, Tatars, Bashkirs, etc.

          Maybe for you this is a false concept, you also have the right to consider yourself as just a nationality, this does not mean at all that the Russian nationality does not exist. According to the author of the article, it turns out that everyone has every right to pound themselves in the chest, declaring their nationality, like baboons. But, only Russians are forbidden to mention that they are Russians - "Great Russian chauvinism however!"
          The author may be "Russian" - a term put into circulation by EBN, but I consider myself Russian and no one will convince me that there is no such nationality, and Mr. Dulles's quotes will not convince me.
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        4. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 8 February 2014 14: 18
          +1
          Together we are power, together we are RUSSIANS ... (from article)


          The Russians, how bad and tedious this is to pronounce.
          Do you also call yourself a "Russian" abroad? Hardly. They won't understand you there. There are no such people in the world.
          All over the world we are known as RUSSIANS. And you call yourself a Russian abroad, like all other "Russians" abroad who recognize themselves as Russians. And at home they begin to engage in delights, that they are not Russians, but "Russians".
          Do you really decide who you are?
          Once in the TV series "Soldiers" by the Tatar Fakhrutdinov, a warrant officer at an evening check-up asks him a question: "Are you a non-Russian with such surnames?" To which the soldier answered correctly: "How non-Russian? I am Russian, of Tatar origin!"
          Russian is not only the blood nationality of the majority of the nation, Russian is also the civic affiliation of a person to the state, culture, language, civilization, as already said.
      3. invisibility
        invisibility 8 February 2014 09: 14
        +12
        I agree with you!
        I believe that the Russian people created, rallied this country! Around the Russians all nations and nationalities have united.
        I do not quite understand why hide my nationality behind the Russians.
        It sounds better to me, a citizen of Russia, ethnic Russian, etc.!
        Quote: ele1285
        I am glad that the author is proud of Russia, but the Union was even more proud of me, probably young people do not understand this.

        And once again I agree!
      4. 123dv
        123dv 8 February 2014 09: 36
        +10
        Well, why not Russians? Russians!
        What he, this man is Russian!
        And he is a German who - German ...
        Here is the difference, the difference in the concept itself.
        ........................
        An anecdote from life.
        At the vegetable market, in a fruit row, two merchants argue fervently in their national dialect, nothing but mats is clear ...
        In the end, one of them despaired of proving their case, claps his hands and exclaims loudly - What, not Russian, or what? !!
        Curtain...
        1. Ivan Tarasov
          Ivan Tarasov 8 February 2014 21: 50
          0
          123dv
          And who is German, who is German ...

          The German remains German as long as it is assimilated into the culture of the German nationality.
          When a man of German nationality assimilates into the culture of Russian civilization, he will become a Russian German. If his descendants, assimilated into the culture of Russian civilization, forget the culture of the German nationality, then they will become ordinary Russians.
      5. AnaBat
        AnaBat 8 February 2014 17: 00
        +1
        I myself am from the region, but I work in Moscow. I will say that in my region there are no prerequisites for intolerance of nationality. RUSSIA from the USSR went to the multinational State! Nothing has changed here, the ideology and the worldview have changed. I think that the attitude of the citizens of RUSSIA towards each other has been and remains good. My personal concern about the attitude of our citizens to citizens of the former socialist republics.
    2. sledgehammer102
      sledgehammer102 8 February 2014 07: 59
      +29
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      Russia is a civilization, it has no nationalities, but there are nationalities included in this civilization.


      The title of the article is understandable, but to me personally - the Tatar - no matter what our whole nation is called: Russian or Russian, I even like the former more, since the latter already has a sense of individuality of peoples under one roof. And for the West, we will always be called the terrible word for them Russians, and nothing else.

      And all those who wave the swastika on nationalist / Tipo-Russian marches - who do not respect either the istria of their country or their ethnic group in principle.

      As for the media, they work in the way in which they were taught to work in the 90s by grant-givers from the "advanced" West, so there is nothing to be surprised at.

      P.S. Yesterday's opening of the Olympiad rallied our people, whoever said anything, but these moments were worth all the costs and the labor that was invested in this business. Olympic Games in Sochi are open, contrary to all efforts of the same advanced West to arrange something in the kind of Olympic Games Moscow-80.

      So, to all cheer for ours and enjoy the sight, simultaneously noticing what a multinational and close-knit team in our country.
      1. Kite
        Kite 8 February 2014 10: 11
        +5
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        Yesterday’s opening of the Olympics rallied our people,

        - yes, WE have raised the bar high in organizing a semantic show, it will be very difficult for others to "jump" it. We did it! Now OUR athletes would please us. Will any of us clarify the nationality of the athlete in whose honor OUR Russian anthem will sound? That's it!
      2. Mairos
        Mairos 8 February 2014 11: 56
        +4
        Well written! Russians, Tatars, Ukrainians, Bashkirs, and all everyone else - must remember who they are and where they came from, but they must also be able to respect each other and create and protect the unity of the peoples of Russia.
      3. velikoros-xnumx
        velikoros-xnumx 8 February 2014 12: 49
        +4
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        The title of the article is understandable, but to me personally - Tatar - it doesn’t matter what our whole nation is called: Russians or Russians, I even like the first, since the second one already contains the meaning of the individuality of peoples under one roof. And for the West we will always be called a terrible word for them Russians and nothing else.

        good You can't say shorter and more precisely. All our peoples should be proud of belonging to the Russian civilization in our common history, first of all, but at the same time not forget their language, their origin, culture, customs and history of their people. Why? because Russian civilization and Russian culture is a mosaic (and a mosaic is complete when all its pieces are assembled into a single one) and is a composite, integrating culture of all peoples that make up our civilization. What I can agree with the author is that until then, until the political strategists from the West began to work, the national question in Russia practically did not arise. In our region there are a lot of Bulgars (Tatars Mishare), a lot of mixed families and no problems on national or confessional grounds. A "half-breed" friend, so to speak (mother is Tatar, father is Russian), has always considered himself Russian, but at the same time he does not forget that he has Tatar blood in him. His family has Orthodox holidays, interspersed with Islamic ones, they also paint eggs and prepare Easter for Easter. He himself more than once visited the Tatar villages at the celebrations of Uraz and Kurban-Bayramov, while he never noticed even a hint of a sidelong glance, and the hospitality of the Tatars with national pastries (Perm repeat ) This is a separate story.
        Together, while we remember our history and are faithful to our traditions, we are invincible
    3. 123dv
      123dv 8 February 2014 09: 49
      +10
      It is interesting to observe how people from the former USSR perceived and perceive abroad. No matter what nationality.
      They are perceived unambiguously as Russian.
      In Israel, I heard that even the Russian party was organized.
      It’s also not a secret that many people in our country who are not Russian by blood would like and strive for them to be designated in the passport as Russian, and children from mixed marriages are generally registered as Russians, even if the father is Armenian and the mother is Moldovan . And such a practice is a common thing now, and in Soviet times it was the same.
      In a Russian country, it’s good and right to be Russian.
      We are Russian people in spirit!
      We are Russians by nationality.
    4. Civil
      Civil 8 February 2014 10: 04
      -2
      There is a greater desire not to recall Bashkiria, not in the federal media (do not expect anything good from them), not in such forums. We live and live, hands off!
    5. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 8 February 2014 10: 21
      +11
      I did not begin to set a minus because the author’s intentions have a good beginning - world peace.

      But now to reality. The author, you say that you are a Tatar, why is there no such right of a Russian to say I am Russian ?! why should he not extol and honor his culture, religion, Orthodoxy, the tradition of the Slavs? after all, his ancestors lived there where Moscow and other cities are now, as yours lived in Tatarstan. If every nation living now in the Russian Federation has the right to national identity, I’m Yakut, I’m Kalmyk, I’m Bashkir, I am Chechen, I am Ossetian, all the more so the Russian founders of this state have the right to do so. After all, the Russians united this whole large territory under one banner. Nobody else. After the Golden Horde, only fragmentation awaited us. Small states are eaten large, and only China is large next to it.

      By the way, about the federation, each autonomous republic you have a national name, Bashkortostan, Tatarstan, the Chechen Republic, the Russians do not have that of their own, there is no Moscow Russian autonomy, because it is considered that the entire "remaining" territory is Russian, so let them at least preserve the nation.

      They took away religion, not everyone, after all, now believes in Christ, unfortunately, many atheists follow advice, therefore all sorts of Pussiriots are born, there was an idea with advice now and it doesn’t exist, the idea now is money, do you now want to make Russian out of whom it is not clear who? consumers, lenders, for states? it’s profitable for marketers when the borders are erased the whole people of the world turns into a consumer mass.

      I’ll tell you the most dangerous thing, when the titular nation turns into cosmopolitan things happen as happened in Yugoslavia - separatist sentiments emerge among other nations and they strive for separation, to put it mildly, it’s insulting for the titular, they protect the territory, and others take it away. Like parasites in the body, appear when you give slack. Unbeknownst to the Albanians, Bosnians, Montenegrins, even Croats, that having separated, the Americans can defeat each or all of them together with one blow. if necessary, such a need will be needed.

      So be a Tatar, know your roots, and let the Russians be Russians, this should not prevent you from communicating together. The enemy will come from without rally, because everyone will know that he will betray the other, and they will come after him.

      For example, I am Kazakh, and we are not Kazakhstanis, every nation knows its own nation, but we live together, there are Kazakhs in Russia, if they fight for Russia, I don’t see anything wrong with that. For large Kazakhstan itself is not capable of resisting enemies from outside alone. So our military directions are identical.
      1. velikoros-xnumx
        velikoros-xnumx 8 February 2014 12: 54
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        Quote: Max_Bauder
        So be a Tatar, know your roots, and let the Russians be Russians, this should not prevent you from communicating together. The enemy will come from without rally, because everyone will know that he will betray the other, they will come for

        good
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        For example, I am Kazakh, and we are not Kazakhstanis, every nation knows its own nation, but we live together, there are Kazakhs in Russia, if they fight for Russia, I don’t see anything wrong with that. For large Kazakhstan itself is not capable of resisting enemies from outside alone. So our military directions are identical.

        And not only the military
    6. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 8 February 2014 12: 05
      +2
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      Russia is a civilization, it has no nationalities, but there are nationalities included in this civilization.

      An indisputable fact, but at the same time I want to remain Russian, and I want my children to remember this. I do not know such a people Russians. Russians are citizens of Russia, they are citizenship, but not people.
      Together we are strength, together we are RUSSIANS ...

      It is difficult to disagree with the first half of the phrase, the second is propaganda nonsense. Once again, Russians are trying to push us into oblivion of who we are. And we, ... we are the people who created our country and this is also an indisputable fact. With all due respect, it’s not the Bulgars (let's use ethnonyms correctly), not the Bashkirs, not the Evenks and not the Udmurts, it was the Russians stubbornly going to the East and creating our empire. In the West during the Second World War, the phrase “Soviet people” was almost never used to define the population of the USSR — the phrase “not Russian people”, but short Russian people sounded everywhere (read memoirs of military leaders of that time and pay attention to it), and this despite the fact that Russians it was just over 50%, and in today's Russia Russian + Little Russians + Belarusians (and I think the Russian people are only in this vein) almost 85%. There will be no Russians, there will be no single strong Russia. There is such a thing that applies to small towns - a city-forming enterprise, so Russian waters - a state-forming people.
    7. aleks
      aleks 8 February 2014 12: 43
      +2
      Nevertheless, I am Russian by nationality and my father was Russian, and my children are Russian, and my grandchildren are Russian, and I don’t want to go along the Yankee road.
    8. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 8 February 2014 13: 50
      +1
      but I’m still- RUSSIAN ...
  2. sds555
    sds555 8 February 2014 07: 34
    +12
    Guys just need to be kinder to each other, to relate to people, because if you want to be treated, and our strength is in unity, it's easy to break a twig, but knitting is already problematic hi
    1. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 8 February 2014 08: 12
      +2
      And this is written under the flag of the most warring country in the 21st century.
      Quote: sds555
      because if you want to be treated you
      Maybe you will agree that the bombing of Yugoslavia and the shelling from the air of civilians will return to you? After all, it is under your flag that the sovereignty of many countries has been destroyed.
      1. alex-cn
        alex-cn 8 February 2014 08: 42
        +5
        The policy of the state is far from always - the policy of its ordinary people!
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        3. sds555
          sds555 8 February 2014 09: 21
          +3
          Alex_sp I live in Russia, but your opinion is correct, people should always remain people hi
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        1. sds555
          sds555 8 February 2014 09: 17
          +1
          Ptah. You have been on the site for a long time and an experienced person and understand everything drinks
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 8 February 2014 09: 34
            +1
            "Experienced and understanding" I am not because of how much time is on the site, but because, until recently, I myself worked as a sysadmin and took courses on creating and managing Internet networks ... hi drinks
            1. alex-cn
              alex-cn 8 February 2014 11: 07
              +1
              And although an American, not everyone has an empty bucket on their shoulders.
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      4. Ptah
        Ptah 8 February 2014 09: 10
        +8
        Quote: shasherin_pavel
        And this is written under the flag of the most warring country in the 21st century.
        After all, it is under your flag that the sovereignty of many countries has been destroyed.

        Leave the "FLAG" behind. This does not mean anything. Specifically on this site.
        Read the gist, not "admire the pictures." hi
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      5. sds555
        sds555 8 February 2014 09: 11
        +9
        Why are you so boiling? I am writing from a smartphone and for some reason a mattress flag is being hung up (the MTS provider is stirring something up) and I live in Moscow. Does it really affect people’s attitude towards each other? MY COUNTRY of Russia? I understand your emotions, but put them together for international court good
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 8 February 2014 13: 57
          +4
          Quote: sds555
          Why are you so boiling? I am writing from a smartphone and for some reason a mattress flag is being hung up (the pay provider is stirring something up) and I live in Moscow

          Well, everything, the Arctic fox crept up unnoticed - the NSA "on the tail" of the village ... laughing
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  3. bomg.77
    bomg.77 8 February 2014 07: 40
    +8
    And after all, such a statement outrages not only the Russian population of our country, agree. They are trying to introduce a culture of egoism, extolling and highlighting each nation, culture, to put one above the other. Look what is happening now: we are separated, set against each other. I read an article claiming that the Tatars wanted to disconnect from Russia. I am a Tatar and I do not want this, I am proud of my country. I am proud that I live in Russia. If you need confirmation of the nation, then hundreds of thousands and millions of people and all the peoples of our country will agree with me!
    To author + hi A good article, I support! They are trying to divide Russia according to nationality, but already inside the nation, divide according to beliefs (parties), religious, social grounds. From this there is only one salvation, understanding of the problem and knowledge, and Russia has the strength to convey this to enemies !
    1. sds555
      sds555 8 February 2014 07: 58
      +3
      Well done, you’ve noticed everything correctly! We must not allow a repetition of the collapse of the USSR, and already Montenegro, Bosnia, Slovenia and others appeared on the map of Europe to the delight of our sworn friends !!
    2. Ivan Tarasov
      Ivan Tarasov 8 February 2014 08: 08
      -4
      The term nationality is just coined to divide the people.
      There is a term - people and nationality, and there is a false term - nationality, which they are trying to impose on us in order to intercept the management process and lead consciousness in the "necessary" direction.
      The term nationality is just coined by the same forces that they are trying to impose sodomy today.
      Therefore, the word nationalist for a normal person should be an insult. To call a person a nationalist is like calling n ****** m.
      This must be remembered, and away from the terms imposed on us.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 8 February 2014 08: 58
        +4
        Quote: Ivan Tarasov
        Therefore, the word nationalist for a normal person should be an insult.

        What? Has your proposal already been submitted to the State Duma of the EREF? Bring in, they will approve there "at once", from the first batch! And even on this resource, your rating will soar to unattainable heights! Trotsky would have signed this quote ten times or even with two hands.
        Quote: Ivan Tarasov
        To call a person a nationalist is like calling 3.14 a gift.

        Then you refute yourself with your last quote:
        Quote: Ivan Tarasov
        and move away from the terms imposed on us
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        1. Knizhnik
          Knizhnik 8 February 2014 11: 38
          +2
          The word "nationalist" was fucked up, of course, like blue, but a good word, a synonym for patriotism
  4. delfinN
    delfinN 8 February 2014 07: 47
    +2
    Russian March. Senseless and merciless? Notes of a non-Russian person
    Author: R.N. Bikbaev
    Hydeparker: Alexander Vaypan
    December 2010 Russian March.

    Please read. In tune with your article, only much more voluminous.
    1. A. Yaga
      A. Yaga 8 February 2014 11: 37
      +2
      Quote: delfinN
      Is it possible, when communicating on the VO website, to understand that we are Russians? More likely no than yes. Increasingly, only that we are Russian is used, and history is cited from the very beginning of Russia-Russia, they recall the formation of Russia, the unification of peoples in Russia. We all know her well, but remember the history of the Russian State, it’s multinational, remember the Russian-French war, the 1 world, 2 world, all of Russia was there ...

      Quote: delfinN
      I am a Tatar and I do not want this, I am proud of my country. I am proud to live in Russia

      So a new generation has grown up that has absorbed media propaganda. Why doesn’t it humiliate me that the author is a Tatar? Because it is normal to have a nationality.
      Why is someone humiliating my nationality, am I Russian? Why can the author be a Tatar and a Russian, and I am only a Russian? In the USSR, everyone had a nationality and were Soviet citizens. Forgetting one’s nationality - forgetting oneself, one’s ancestors, raising children who don’t remember kinship. I am primarily Russian, and then already a citizen of a country. Be it the USSR, Russia, Belarus or other countries.
  5. dark_65
    dark_65 8 February 2014 07: 53
    +10
    I’m a quarter century older than the author, it’s nice that thinking people do not die out.
    It’s far from the idea that all Caucasians are scum, as well as others. But, we judge by individual representatives of the generation, people, nation, system. Unfortunately.
    Channel 1, NTV, another television shows a digest of life. And often one-sided. Infovoyna is worse than the atomic one, which, as it is not strange for everyone, is selective.
    He lived in almost all regions of the country, everywhere normal people. And we are really a country.
  6. Arhj
    Arhj 8 February 2014 07: 59
    +5
    Speaking about the fact that I am Russian, I still mean, at least in half the cases, that I am Russian. In communication - I look at a person, his personal and professional qualities. But there is a problem - that's for sure.
    Joke on a sad topic:
    "2100. The Chinese are rushing to Moscow. The fighting is already going on right outside the Moscow Ring Road. The devastation is complete, shells are torn, bullets are whistling. The Chinese are yelling:" Russians surrender. "
    On the other side, in a trench, two are pressed into the ground. To one another: "Russians surrender. Mahmud, you tell me, where can we find a Russian for them here?"
  7. Vityok
    Vityok 8 February 2014 08: 04
    +15
    I am Russian!!! And proud of it !!!
    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 8 February 2014 08: 18
      +11
      Brother, I, too, RUSSIAN! And proud of it !! drinks
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 8 February 2014 09: 52
        +13
        I am 1/4 German + 1/4 Ukrainian = Russian.
        Born "Soviet", at school he was "German", at the institute "Jew", in the navy "Tatar", abroad "Russian" ...
        And I don't want to be "Russian" (by "nationality") ...
        1. Ihrek
          Ihrek 8 February 2014 10: 38
          +9
          In my native mountain village I am from the Djelilovs, in Rutul I am Ikhreksky, in Makhachkala I am a Rutulean, in Moscow I am a Dagestan, and abroad I am Russian.
          1. ele1285
            ele1285 8 February 2014 11: 11
            +1
            Quote: Jamal1974
            In my native mountain village I am from the Djelilovs, in Rutul I am Ikhreksky, in Makhachkala I am a Rutulean, in Moscow I am a Dagestan, and abroad I am Russian.

            My friend, probably boasted. But who will remember all this besides you? As far as I remember, the nationality is still written in the birth certificate. So there will not be so much information, the registry office will be closed for a week, they will fill out only one metric.
          2. Ptah
            Ptah 8 February 2014 11: 51
            +5
            Quote: Jamal1974
            in Moscow - Dagestan, abroad - Russian.

            This, believe me, my friend, is not slightly annoying.
            I remember with you, Jamal, have already bitten maliciously on this subject. This one -

            1


            Why in Moscow the national identity of you and so rushing, but over the hill somewhere disappears. I found an answer to this question for myself, but I want to hear a version from a Caucasian.
            I’ll clarify. In Bundasia, where I lived for a long time, where my family stayed now (they are waiting for their youngest son to receive Russian citizenship and the end of the school year. I hope they will come in July), I never tried to show everyone that I’m 1/4 ethnic German - erysipelas are indistinguishable, but the mentality is different. In Russia, no one will see me as a German.
            But RUSSIAN then I am everywhere. This is without quotes ...
            1. Ihrek
              Ihrek 8 February 2014 20: 34
              +1
              Quote: Ptah
              I remember with you, Jamal, have already bitten maliciously on this subject. This one -


              In the photo, it’s most likely not Russians, but immigrants from other republics of the former USSR, and I wouldn’t name their evil faces, they just represent Russia as a very evil and hostile country that must be feared. And the great geopolitics of the West is to weaken Russia by all possible and impossible methods, including escalating internal tension by pushing the peoples of Russia on ethnic grounds. The dream of the West, and not only the West, to destroy Russia as a state entity. Unfortunately, weak morally (and mentally) people quickly peck at all kinds of interethnic provocations, such people see only what they want to see and hear. Many are dissatisfied with the influx of immigrants from Central Asia, and for some reason they are blamed for this, and not government officials giving them the opportunity to come. And they look at them with such impatience as if they had come not to work (by the way for a pittance) but to rest at the expense of the local population. I know many Russians who moved from Dagestan to be afraid of the repetition of the Chechen scenario there, and I really regret that we moved, and then I hope everything is clear. For me personally, a bully, he is a bully, regardless of national accessories. I always side with the man on whose side the truth is independent whether he is Russian or Dagestan.
    2. Arhj
      Arhj 8 February 2014 11: 20
      +5
      I am also Russian and also proud. But much more I am proud of belonging to the Russian people. For me, Russian is anyone who lives for Russia, who loves Russia. Wasserman A.A., for example, is more Russian to me than Navalny or Sobchak, whom I do not consider Russian.
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 8 February 2014 11: 44
        +1
        Quote: Arhj
        I am also Russian and also proud. But much more I am proud of belonging to the Russian people.

        I don’t know how Navalny is, and the Horse has nothing to do with the Russians, and she obviously does not care about Russia. For me, not everyone who lives in Russia is Russian. And Wasserman A.A. more Soviet than Russian, although our opinions may not coincide.
  8. Svobodny
    Svobodny 8 February 2014 08: 09
    +9
    it’s multinational, let’s recall the Russian-French war, the 1st World War, the 2nd World War, all of Russia was there


    That's right. All Russian wars were won by the multinational and multiconfessional RUSSIAN PEOPLE. This includes Russian Georgians, Russian Bashkirs, and Russian Kazakhs. Russians.
  9. Same lech
    Same lech 8 February 2014 08: 11
    +9
    I am RUSSIAN and always will remain — the history of the country changes — they change their name — yesterday we were Soviet today we will radiate and tomorrow we may become MARTIANS — but I will remain Russian in spirit and identity — even though I SHOOT ME FOR THIS.
  10. leks
    leks 8 February 2014 08: 14
    +17
    Hi everyone
    Congratulations to everyone on the discovery of O.I!
    I myself have been living here from Ufa all my life, and the roots come from the Bryansk region Grandfather and Grandmother were evacuated by children after the liberation of those places from occupation.
    The author writes absolutely correct, his point of view, but I myself support him, since I myself live among the Russians, Bashkirs, Tatars, and as far back as I can remember, I have never heard from them that we Russians were called invaders or there is not a good word "pig".
    I also really heard on fed.channels that we have nationalism here in its purest form, do not believe there is no such thing on such a scale as presented by the media, but there are fantasy conversations that would have happened if Bashkiria had disconnected from Russia and these conversations went after The oil industry began to belong to the Moscow oligarchs, after that in 2008, many forgot about the increase in salary, as someone asked the leaders whether there would be an increase in return, they received a "grenade" for you for the periphery and we pay so much, that's the attitude.
    But in general, I consider it necessary to hold a vote on a national scale, to renounce the republics, to switch to the pre-revolutionary method, that is, PROVINCES of the Ufa Province, Kazan, Groznensk.
    THERE AFTER VOTING WE ARE FINDING WHO WANTS TO A UNITED COUNTRY AND READY TO REFUSE THE NATIONAL NAMES OF THE REPUBLIC AND READY TO BECOME A PROVINCE OR A REGION OR A REGION IN GENERAL BECOME A UNITED COUNTRY !!!
    1. cerko
      cerko 8 February 2014 14: 13
      +3
      I join, I am from Meleuz (a small town in Bashkiria) and when I look at the box I can’t understand what national or religious problems they say there. We are all happy when Easter, trinity or Christmas (everyone drinks at the same table), we are happy when Kurban Bayram or Uraza Bayram (days off in Bashkiria), as for nationality, so Ukrainian, Bashkir villages lie in the vicinity of the city, Tatar, Chuvash, Russian, Mordovian, etc. and finally, explain who I am by nationality: mother is Mordovian, father is half Russian and half Ukrainian, grandfather is Ukrainian along the father? say Russian, but my mother always told me in childhood that I was Ukrainian.
  11. Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 February 2014 08: 16
    +16
    Remember, a little more than 300 years ago, the first liberal in Russia: destroyed the Russian alphabet, destroyed the Russian calendar, Russian traditions. Instead of Russian banners, hung the Dutch flag by shuffling the colors. And now it’s not Russia, but in the Dutch manner of Russ. Over 300 years, many have become used to it. And the tricolor flag is considered more native. But there were no Russians in the Russian Empire. There were subjects of the Russian empire: Kalmyks, Tatars. Russians, Buryats, Little Russians. And now? In any situation, the Bashkir will remain a Bashkir, even Russian, even Soviet, even Russian. But the Russian will disappear. For there are no Russians, but there are Russians. It is now calling us to the world. And after another 300 years they will prove that we are rushans, for the country is rush, that the brownie is an evil spirit. and not the keeper of the house, that our grandfather Klaus always wore boots and congratulated everyone with a bottle of Coke.
    Say exaggerating? No, I see how the past is changing before my eyes. The time in which I lived, for some reason, is shown not in the way I saw it.
    1. Svobodny
      Svobodny 8 February 2014 08: 27
      -2
      Quote: Gardamir
      Remember, a little over 300 years ago, the first liberal in Russia

      Do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 8 February 2014 08: 45
        +7
        Besides these words, you have read something else. Or do you think that cutting off the boyars' beards helped the development of the country? And supposedly "cutting a window to Europe" is more like a sewer breakthrough. All European evil spirits climbed into Russia. Somewhere in Germany he was a vagabond, but in Russia he was the best European barber.
        1. Svobodny
          Svobodny 8 February 2014 08: 56
          +3
          Gardamir, the role of the personality of Peter the Great in the history of Russia is ambiguous, this is indisputable. But also that he
          Quote: Gardamir
          destroyed the Russian alphabet, destroyed the Russian calendar, Russian traditions.

          no need to speak. If this were true, it is unlikely that you and I spoke and wrote in Russian today.
          1. veleslav
            veleslav 8 February 2014 10: 45
            +8
            The fact that we write in Cyrillic does not mean "in Russian". And "Peter's window to Europe" is a small window in comparison with the gates of Veliky Novgorod to the same place.
            Achievements of Peter the Great are fairy tales of the "House of Romanovs", in which there is a shish. However, like the whole history of this non-Russian dynasty.
            1. ODESSA
              ODESSA 8 February 2014 11: 32
              +6
              Quote: veleslav
              The fact that we write in Cyrillic does not mean "in Russian". And "Peter's window to Europe" is a small window in comparison with the gates to the same place in Veliky Novgorod. The achievements of Peter the Great are tales of the "House of the Romanovs", in which they are very Russian. However, like the whole history of this non-Russian dynasty.

              good I agree!
          2. Horde
            Horde 8 February 2014 11: 07
            +4
            Quote: Svobodny
            no need to ovary. If this were true, it is unlikely that you and I spoke and wrote in Russian today.


            he couldn’t destroy the Russian language - the gut is thin, but this German was very bad for the Russian people ...
          3. Gardamir
            Gardamir 8 February 2014 11: 47
            +1
            How is it in Russian? I recently pulled a telephone wire at home, did not get it, I had to stand on tiptoe. And my mother used to say "at thefingerikah. "And what word is more Russian here?
    2. Knizhnik
      Knizhnik 8 February 2014 12: 00
      +4
      You are unfair to Peter, only because of his great love for your country, his heart ached due to Russia's lagging behind the achievements of the West. He could, like the kings before him, sit quietly on the throne, but he understood that progress in Europe would soon leave Russia far behind, then only aggression and dismemberment. At the same time, he broke firewood, of course.
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    1. Same lech
      Same lech 8 February 2014 08: 25
      +2
      A complete analogy with MODERN REALITIES- smile
  14. rapid1934
    rapid1934 8 February 2014 08: 21
    +6
    I am proud that I live in RUSSIA! I am proud that I am RUSSIAN! I live in peace and harmony with people of other nationalities. I really don’t like that the authorities are trying to make me forget that I am Russian angry 30 ... 40 years ago, in my environment there were people of different nationalities and we lived together. But at that time I was not forbidden to write my nationality in my passport. hi
    We are RUSSIANS, but we are of different nationalities and there is nothing wrong with that. Or is someone shy of their nationality? request
    1. 222222
      222222 8 February 2014 12: 17
      +1
      rapid1934 RU Today, 08:21 ... and "We, a citizen of Russia, would be more beautiful" ....- Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Tatars ... all 194 people .. (by
      "Peoples and ethnic groups of Russia according to the All-Russian census of 2010") .. and each nation is a golden grain of sand and 194 grains of sand of different sizes form a Single Ingot .. The Russian State. Individually, grains of sand will carry away a hurricane of changes in the world .. In unity, in Ingot .. (I repeat) ... as VV Putin said, "Russia has no rivals. Our rival is Russia itself, its internal problems .." ..
  15. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 8 February 2014 08: 22
    +14
    He put a plus, and yet the Russian is not a nation, this is belonging to the country. Like it or not, Russia is a multinational state, and the traditions and culture of each nation are different. Of course, you can unite everyone to call the Russians, and I'm even sure that it will be much better, but for this we need to do something, do it young. If we consider the mood on the national question, it turns out in the youth environment of nationalists most of all. And most importantly, nationalists are most not among the Russians, just among the national autonomies. And purposeful nationalism directed specifically against Russians. Because, whatever one may say, the Russians are forced to unite in order to survive. But I am more than sure when it will be done away with frenzied nationalism in Russia, when all nations will be equal, then the question of Russian nationalism will calm down on its own.
    And as always, a remark, nationalism for the Russians, as I understand it myself: The first and main respect, respect for elders and help the weak, the second to stop drinking, drug addiction and rudeness, youth, all the forces for education, getting a profession, learn history, don’t only the history of Orthodoxy, but the history of ancient Russia, traditions and culture. Only under such conditions it can be argued that I am a Russian nationalist. Everything else is nonsense and verbiage, no more.
    1. chizhik
      chizhik 8 February 2014 08: 52
      +4
      Great comment, understandable minuses, this is from congenital dementia. Plus
    2. Horde
      Horde 8 February 2014 11: 16
      -1
      Quote: vladsolo56
      But I am more than sure when it will be done away with frenzied nationalism in Russia, when all nations will be equal, then the question of Russian nationalism will calm down on its own.


      you were able to grasp the essence of the issue, but the conclusions were incorrect. NO AND NEVER WILL BE ANY EQUALITY. There is no equality not among people, not by gender, not by nationality, not even among nations. EVERYONE is someone STRONGER, SMARTER, more hardworking, more talented and how not to twist MORE BEAUTIFUL.
      This is especially noticeable among the non-Russians who give the wife to the Russian. And EQUALITY is the right of the inept, lazy and stupid to get on your head STRONG and push from there ...
  16. rus9875
    rus9875 8 February 2014 08: 29
    +6
    The author is absolutely right - the interethnic problems in our country are largely created and inflated by our native mass media (and precisely the federal ones). Why is this happening? Is it just the stupidity of individual journalists, or is it thoughtful purposeful work for the collapse of the country? In my opinion, the fact is that the proponents of the Zionist lobby rule there, and they occupied literally all spheres from culture and entertainment to news, analytics and political programs. I will not list them by name - they are all already every day by ear. Mr. Zhirinovsky, vice speaker of the State Duma, who himself appointed the main defender of the Russian people. It is naive to believe that people who have, apart from the Russian, are also Israeli, American and God knows what else, citizenship will work for the good of our country.
    1. Horde
      Horde 8 February 2014 11: 18
      +1
      Quote: rus9875
      our native media


      how, what kind of media? more precisely, please ...

      Quote: rus9875
      well thought-out focused work for the collapse of the country? In my opinion, the fact is that the proponents of the Zionist lobby rule there, and they occupied literally all spheres from culture and entertainment to the news,

      -It is undoubtedly ...
  17. Humpty
    Humpty 8 February 2014 08: 30
    +9
    There are many peoples in Russian civilization. In particular, the Tatars and Bashkirs are a worthy part of it. Tatars love to visit, but Bashkirs visit me more often. And my passport, "indecent" in the near abroad, the column that I am Russian.
  18. Normal
    Normal 8 February 2014 08: 38
    +23
    We are not Russians, we are Russians!


    It may very well be.
    And here I am - Russian, despite the fact that my father is Mordvin and my mother is Ukrainian. And no one will convince me that there are no Russians, but there are only Russians. Especially when the one who claims this is non-Russian.
    I will offer the author a simple experience; no need to speak for Russians and about Russians. talk to yourself. Are you a Tatar? Very well! It is clear that you are not Russian, and for you the title of the article is pure truth. BUT! Let's go to the end and now we will write "we are not Tatars, we are Russians!", "We are not Bashkirs, we are Russians!", "We are not nokhcho, we are Russians!"
    Of course, when it comes to the fact that Russia is a country of Russians, they say just that. But! They mean citizenship, citizenship without at the same time giving up their nationality, the Russians are invited to abandon their national identity for the sake of friendly peoples, for the sake of the comfortable well-being of non-Russians in Russia. And what? Non-Russians, after all, are Russians. But aren't Russians Russians? Why does each representative of national minorities in Russia consider himself entitled to indicate to Russians in Russia who they are, whose country it is, and how Russians should behave at home?
    Start with yourself and give up your national self-identification, and only then demand this from the Russians. We have no less reason to say WE are RUSSIAN with pride, and we ARE ON OUR LAND!
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 8 February 2014 10: 20
      +6
      I will support, Vladimir.
      True, from a slightly different point of view.
      And what is the better vaccination of the term - the Russians?
      Not only that, the word itself does not sound somehow in Russian, like, scoured and like ...
      So, the introduction of this is already a SLOM of established concepts. Revolution, no less.
      In Tashkent, at the Algorithm plant, there was just one. All together we made "Elbrus". All worked together for our great Motherland - the USSR.
      But at the same time, everyone knew that this one was Uzbek, this one was Tajik, this one was Uighur, this one was Tatar, Korean, Lithuanian. These pretty girls are Kyrgyz, Armenian, Bashkir.
      And what, from the fact that everyone behind their backs had their own national culture and a common one ... for everyone - did someone feel bad?
      Quite the contrary.
      Moreover, as has already been discussed a hundred times - at the checkpoints of Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan - we are all Russian.
      ...
      There is no need for the press to foment nationalism - this is the time.
      And the nation should not forget that it is a nation. These are two.
      Need to work. Collaboration (especially hard) - completely blows out the idea of ​​exclusivity from the brain.
      I don’t understand another.
  19. Ugrumiy
    Ugrumiy 8 February 2014 08: 41
    +4
    Many people say: "Russia is my home!" Indeed, Russia is home to many peoples and each of them has their own apartment: the Bashkirs, Tatars, Kalmyks, Caucasians, etc., and only the Russians do not have it, we live in the entrance! We are Russians, what for we have something of our own. So I am not calling for separation, but I want to have my own Russian "apartment" in the COMMON house of the Russian Federation! After all, look at the Constitution and try to find such a subject as Russia among the subjects of the RUSSIAN Federation. But in the Union of the RSFSR, by the way, was and it did not bother anyone.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 February 2014 09: 02
      +4
      Quote: Ugrumiy
      etc., and only the Russians do not have it, we live in the porch!

      Now probably sit on the steps of the stairs and spit the komenty.
      1. Ugrumiy
        Ugrumiy 8 February 2014 09: 25
        +3
        No, I went here to one proud Caucasian eagle in an apartment, they have 4G Internet here, and another 78% of young people are negatively related to one degree or another to the Russian-speaking population and Russia.
  20. pamero
    pamero 8 February 2014 08: 42
    +6
    It is necessary to return the textbooks of the 1949-1957 sample to the school, of course, with some editing, only with them we will save ourselves and the youth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  21. fail8219
    fail8219 8 February 2014 08: 44
    +5
    We are one, we have one culture, one view, one worldview. Of course, yes, and yes again, there are conflicts and some hostilities and questions. It has always been, is and will be

    I completely agree! Himself from Ufa. Never had problems associated with nationality.
  22. saag
    saag 8 February 2014 08: 45
    +2
    illusions, what are Russians? Nation? So a nation in a multinational country consists of nationalities (I apologize for the tautology), this is the basis for oblivion of this add-on - the Russians hang in the air, as it were, in a word, it’s short-lived, we have to go back to the foundation
  23. apro
    apro 8 February 2014 08: 55
    +4
    As IVS Stalin spoke of himself as Russian of Georgian origin. Defeat in the struggle for dominance led to the separation of the Russian imperial and Soviet identity of the peoples inhabiting our homeland. The current Russianness has gone from the Vlasov beginning.
  24. tatkali
    tatkali 8 February 2014 09: 01
    0
    Author, take off your pink glasses and look around.
  25. ed65b
    ed65b 8 February 2014 09: 02
    +1
    Everyone should have their own history and it is impossible to depersonalize the people. Russian will always be him, and Tatar Tatar, and everything in the place of the Russians. Teasing and swearing at the VO are not between representatives of the Russian Tatars and Bashkirs, but with representatives of the now independent, and in the past, republics of the USSR that received unexpectedly unspeakable independence and spewed out sewage streams towards Russia. and speaking Russian, they shower all Orthodox Christians and Muslims and Buddhists and Shamanists. And under the cover of loud words about a united Turkic people and faith, they really bring a split even on our forum. Well, the fact that the tricks of the separatists is becoming publicized is that it’s good to react earlier it will be easier to live. My personal attitude to the Russians is not of Russian nationality - I do not see non-Russian in the Tatra. He is just like me.
    1. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 8 February 2014 11: 47
      +3
      Quote: ed65b
      Everyone should have their own history and it is impossible to depersonalize the people. Russian will always be him, and Tatar Tatar, and everything in the place of the Russians.
      Damn, but in our "Kazash" it is laughing
      Russian - Russian, Kazakh - Kazakh, and all together Kazakhstanis ..
      And both Kazakhs and Russian Kazakhs are against what would be called Kazakhs by non-Kazakhs of Kazakhstan. And as a rule, your media are called "Kazakhs" Russian Kazakhs. I regularly watch Russian channels.
      Quote: ed65b
      make a real split even on our forum.
      You don’t shift from a sick head to a healthy one.
      The split is brought in by your fellow citizens - "scattered", "Muscovites".
      Here at VO, they regularly describe the situation in Bashkortostan
      Quote: leks
      St conversations-fantasies that would be if Bashkiria disconnected from Russia и these conversations went after the oil industry began to belong to the Moscow oligarchs, after this 2008 year, many forgot about the increase in the salarySomeone asked the leaders whether they would be promoted in return and received a "grenade" for the periphery and we pay so much, this is the attitude.
      Note that leksethnic Russian ..
      From sports.ru
      guizzy
      Murtazu, of course, was strongly criticized. I also really wanted at the time that he left. But now, remembering his theft, you understand that these were only pranks)))
      Now the Republic of Belarus has completely bent over Muscovites and milk as they want ...

      About the same writes on topvar bairat
      Now I hope it dawned on why many Kazakhs are extremely wary of the CU and EurAsEC.
      And why, Old Man is so stubbornly avoiding "brotherly" embraces ..
      Quote: ed65b
      earlier react will be easier to live.
      In the 1986 year in Alma-Ata, they already reacted ..
  26. leks
    leks 8 February 2014 09: 08
    +2
    As I understand it, the majority here and everywhere in Russia would be happy that it would be written in the constitution that the state-forming nation is Russian, I am not against this situation, but then we need to become a Russian nation and force the authorities to hold a referendum and then change the constitution.
    Yesterday I watched the program (Philosophy of the Soft Way), Putin was asked a question, were you not afraid that you won’t get anything, because many people thought that the Russians were slobs and couldn’t do anything, Putin answered so, the Russians built the largest and most powerful state in the world of RUSSIA, and there was still a question for him about the rivals of Russia, to which he replied that Russia doesn’t have them, the main rival of Russia is her very internal troubles, problems. Don’t just say that he is wrong !?
  27. Victor1
    Victor1 8 February 2014 09: 13
    +8
    We are not Russians, we are Russians! And you need to be proud of this, you need to remember your story!, Although different Russophobes try to distort it.
    Russians of different nationalities, living in peace and mutual respect for hundreds of years, together they are the Russian people, but do not forget the main thing, the Russians of Russian nationality are the foundation of our state, our homeland.
  28. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 8 February 2014 09: 26
    +6
    Dagestanis Russians, Chechens Russians. Yakuts are Russians, but RUSSIANS aren't !!!!!! There are Russians ....... I am RUSSIAN, and I do not care about your logic. And our athletes have great victories !!!!!!
  29. oracul
    oracul 8 February 2014 09: 30
    -1
    The media is a tool, and the primary is the national elite, which, unfortunately, like termites, is tirelessly working, undermining the skeleton of the state from within. Of course, at the level of most people, things are different, although not without twists. Sometimes, "emotional outbursts" happen, as they sometimes happen in families between relatives, such is the contradiction of life. You should always look for who benefits from it? Russia is a multinational country - that's a fact. Look at our Russian elite and you will see in its composition people of various nationalities, including people from the former Soviet republics. Nationalism is primarily manifested at the family level. But do Russians have any restrictions on mixed marriages? But there, even in Kazakhstan, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians are ousted from the sphere of government, culture, art, and deprived of their native language. Perhaps they still endure in sports, but they will greet businessmen - because of money. But in the world all the same we are all Russians. So, the young man is right - we have nothing to share, but with the nationalists in the elites, it is worth dealing with it very seriously.
  30. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 8 February 2014 09: 32
    +1
    Why break the spears? Read with Lev Nikolaevich:
    L.N. Gumilev. "Ethnogenesis and the Earth's biosphere". "But the question about the nationalities, which we will call ethnic groups in order to avoid terminological confusion, is full of absurdities, extremely confused. One thing is certain - there is not a single person on earth outside the ethnic group. Each person to the question:" Who are you? "- will answer:" Russian ", French "," Persian "," Masai ", etc., without thinking for a minute."
    L.N. Gumilev. "End and start again". "A Karelian from Tver province calls himself a Karelian in his village, and when he comes to study in Moscow, he calls himself a Russian, because in the village the opposition of Karelians to Russians is important, but in the city it does not, since the differences in life and culture are so insignificant that they disappear. if this is not a Karelian, but a Tatar, then he will call himself a Tatar, because the former religious difference deepened the ethnographic dissimilarity with the Russians.To sincerely declare himself a Russian, a Tatar must go to Western Europe or China, and in New Guinea he will be perceived as a European not from the tribe of the English or the Dutch, that is, those who are known there. "
    I myself share the views of the great scientist.
  31. ando_bor
    ando_bor 8 February 2014 09: 40
    +2
    The author has a plus, and not in general terms, but in specifics, about his work several times for several months, he was in Bashkiria, and what the author says, he also noticed that the local Tatars and Bashkirs are more Russians than many Russians in the central regions. Russian patriotism is more developed there. And among Russians, national self-identification is more pronounced than in other regions. The roots remain, unlike the center and large cities that globalization has affected.
  32. darksoul
    darksoul 8 February 2014 09: 46
    0
    The article was well written, God forbid that we always live in peace and harmony, help each other and respect, but I am Russian .... I am not Russian, I am a native of this country, he is a Tatar, he is a native of our country ..... .Russians also call guests from Central Asia and other republics who come to us .... I do not like the parallel that they have been trying to impose on us lately
  33. pahom54
    pahom54 8 February 2014 10: 02
    +3
    The article is good and appropriate. And I am glad that a very young man was thinking about this issue.
    At one time, life left me in the vast expanses of the USSR, and I will say this, in my friends and comrades I had Jews, Tatars, Bashkirs, Ukrainians with Belarusians, and ... I don’t even know who. Normal, good people, and NOBODY AND NEVER of us thought about the nationality of another.
    I think this: if you want to be Russian, be it! If you want to be a Tatar, be it! But at the same time, feel like a citizen of the country in which you live, love and respect her, as well as respect people of a different nationality living near you.
    And all the nonsense conversations on this subject in the regime of legal radicalism really lead to a split in the peoples of Russia, which is what our enemies are seeking.
  34. Victor1
    Victor1 8 February 2014 10: 11
    +2
    With the word Russians, there is a substitution of concepts, in addition to citizenship, there is also a national identity, and so they want to replace our Russian nationality with "Russians", that we are not Russians, which is not correct, and this substitution of concepts is used mainly by russophobes and non-Russians who want to receive the benefit of Russian civilization, but do not want to join the general mass of the Russian people, do not like and do not respect the Russian people.
    I am of Russian nationality, and I am not pleased that all sorts of upstarts with brainwashed and other Russophobes are trying to drown my nationality. They would have remained better in their opinion and, in the first place, would have looked in their own direction. No matter how they try to conduct their wrecking activities, they will not succeed. I am Russian and proud of it.
  35. Concept1
    Concept1 8 February 2014 10: 32
    +5
    There are Bashkirs, Tatars, Mordvinians, etc. hundreds of nationalities, and Russian is not a nationality; it’s such a common name for all the peoples living in Russia.
    Well, I want to upset some citizens there is at least one such person according to NATIONALITY is Russian and my name is Andrey Bolshakov. I am not a nationalist, not a fascist, I just have such a nationality. As far as I know, my great-great-grandfathers, great-grandfathers, grandfathers were all Russian. And this is my personal, the same as my soul, it can not be disputed by other people !!! As well as I will not dispute the nationality of another person, let him be at least a poise from New Guinea !!!
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 8 February 2014 12: 46
      +1
      Quote: concept1
      There are Bashkirs, Tatars, Mordvinians, etc. hundreds of nationalities, and Russian is not a nationality

      Russian is a nationality that assimilates other nationalities and this process is long, it is gradual now the descendants of not only purely Slavic peoples but also many others call themselves Russians (a living example of the Normal which writes the father of the Mordvinians and I myself am Russian). Bashkirs-Nogais-Kazan Tatars, etc. following for assimilation after a certain number of years, the Bashkir dad will write the same, and I myself am Russian (Kazakhs were the same in line for assimilation if it were not for the collapse of the USSR, since you live in Kazakhstan know the problem of shala and nagyz Kazakhs ). Assimilation is neither good nor bad, this is a given, and if the Russians themselves do not stop this process by starting to divide into purely Russians and those who recognize themselves as Russians, this process will end when everyone recognizes themselves as Russians (and even the not-beloved peoples of the Caucasus). Russians who go to the "Russian marches" want to stop this process and they have two ways to either separate the national republics since the national men do not want to be second-class people, or to destroy the national men or to expel. The destruction of nationalists was carried out by Spain (Latin America) and England (North America, Australia), and now Spain and England itself are facing disintegration (Catalonia, Valencia, Scotland, Wales). RI, the USSR, the Russian Federation first of all give the elite of national men to become Russian, and then the national elite itself will make their peoples Russian. This is a longer and more difficult process, but it gives a more persistent and long-term effect, for the supporters of "Russian marches" like simple solutions (Russia for Russians), but the effect will be the opposite after the separation of the national provinces, division into Russians proper and descendants of non-Russians, into Siberians , Uralians, Pomors, Cossacks, Muscovites.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 8 February 2014 13: 55
        +2
        Quote: Semurg
        Russian is a nationality that assimilates other nationalities

        The belief shared by all Russophobes, no matter what nationality they are.
        For assimilation, refer to German history. Example: Luzhitsky Serbs. The last ethnic "German" Slavs, the best friend of the Russophobes, A. Hitler ordered to be recorded as Germans. And there were no Luzhitsky Serbs. True, in Polish Silesia there is a good sort of beer in bottles of 0,33 l "Luzhitskoe". Give at least one fact of how the "damned tsarist government" ordered assimilation. Facts on the table!
        Quote: Semurg
        after the separation of n.okrain division will begin on the actual Russian and descendants of non-Russians, on the Siberians, the Urals, Pomors, Cossacks, Muscovites

        But this is a crystal dream, a sweet dream for you and your kind. Do not wait!
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 8 February 2014 14: 56
          +1
          Go through the branch and read the posts of users where they write that they are not Russian by blood, but they consider themselves Russian, this is assimilation (and this is more reliable than if A. Hitler writes someone a German). And where did I write that this is good or bad? it is a given. Is the wind blowing good or bad? Taking a quote out of context and building an answer on this and sticking labels is not gut. The Russians themselves will divide the Russians into pure ones and not so much if the supporters of "Russian marches" come to power, since this is their philosophy of destruction and not creation. Or do you think they are in vain ordering DNA tests to determine the Russianness of their carriers. Are you sure you will take the cleanliness test? For me, as a neighbor, it is good to have a stable situation in Russia, but it is not clear to those like you "label broadcasters" that you have enemies around you who do not shout in tune with you.
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 8 February 2014 16: 04
            0
            Quote: Semurg
            Go through the branch and read the posts of users where they write that they are not Russian by blood, but they consider themselves Russian

            Follow the thread below, view my comment. L.N.Gumilev is mentioned twice in it (this is so that you are not mistaken), the time is indicated 9-32. There is my opinion on the article.
            Quote: Semurg
            Is the wind blowing good or bad?

            You know, the proverb came to my mind: "the dog barks - the wind carries."
            Quote: Semurg
            The Russians themselves will divide the Russians into pure and not so good if supporters of "Russian marches" come to power, because this is their philosophy

            There is wisdom on this topic: "Every kingdom that is divided in itself will be empty, says the Lord, and any city or house that is divided in itself will not stand (Matthew 15, 55)."
            Quote: Semurg
            Or do you think they are in vain ordering DNA tests to determine the roskost of their carriers

            It seems that the procedure cost about 500 "green"? If at your expense, then I will agree, but I myself feel sorry for this nonsense of money.
            Quote: Semurg
            it is good for a neighbor to have a stable situation in Russia, but it is not clear to people like you "label broadcasters"

            A stable situation in Russia is primarily the dream of its population. And as for the advisers, remember the anecdotes from our common past: 1. "We have not a country of answers, but a country of advice." 2. "Why can't a woman ... in the square?"
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 8 February 2014 20: 34
              0
              a Tatar in RI so that he was recognized as a Russian (assimilated) should have been baptized, now this question is not the first on the list (especially many atheists). For the rest, there is no desire to answer because it’s slipping into the srach, it’s not your own business. Assimilation takes place to be, although in this terrible and indecent I do not understand that you are slipping into personalities.
              1. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 9 February 2014 14: 30
                0
                Read serious books by serious scientists, it will be easier to sort out your own and other people's thoughts. No wonder, after all, in Soviet times, when preparing a graduation project, they were forced to do patent study in serious universities. For starters, I give a quote on the topic: LN Gumilev "The End and the Beginning Again". "... the French - a striking example of a monolithic ethnos - include the Breton Celts, the Gascons of Basque descent, the Lorraine descendants of the Allemans and the Povençals - an independent people of the Romanesque group." Further in the text "In the course of history, these sub-ethnic groups dissolved in the bulk of the ethnic group, but at the same time new ones emerged. The purpose of these sub-ethnic formations is to maintain ethnic unity through internal non-antagonistic rivalry. Further in the text ... When simplifying the ethnic system in the phase of decline, the number subethnos is reduced to one, which marks the persistent (surviving) state of the ethnos. " That's all, otherwise they started: "Assimilation, assimilation ...". The great scientist just points out that the simplification of the system leads to the cessation of development (sometimes death).
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  36. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 8 February 2014 10: 34
    +2
    The article is written well, the author is a plus. In my opinion, it is necessary to urgently abolish the regional and republican division in the vastness of Russia and introduce, as V.V. Zhirinovsky says, GOVERNMENTS, otherwise we will "agree"! Not everyone wants this in the Caucasus, - they are afraid of losing their self-identity , which means that we bring up our children badly, wrongly, we do not want to understand that we live in one country, whose name is RUSSIA! The solution to the national question lies on the surface, read J.V. Stalin, and first of all we are to blame for everything, after all, it was we who contributed to the appearance of the "Moscow foam", we cannot, or do not want, to put in place the "cool people who came from the villages and auls ", media, TV. National features in each of us will always be present, and therefore you need to be proud only of the good, unfortunately lost during the crappy transformations. As long as we are together _ we are strong and we are Russia!
  37. Altona
    Altona 8 February 2014 10: 56
    +1
    Quote: sledgehammer102
    The title of the article is understandable, but to me personally - the Tatar - no matter what our whole nation is called: Russian or Russian, I even like the former more, since the latter already has a sense of individuality of peoples under one roof. And for the West, we will always be called the terrible word for them Russians, and nothing else.

    --------------------------
    I agree, I can’t explain to a foreigner for a long time and on the fingers that my parents are of such nationality, and that there are such nationalities in general, poking at the map where these nationalities live ... And it is unlikely that he will be interested. Our country is called Russia, which means we are Russians ... Just like a German, he will not explain to me for a long time that he is a Bavarian or a Swabian, or a Saxon ... Like a Briton will not explain that he is generally a Scotsman ... We we represent the whole nation as a whole, and not an ethnic-cultural fragment ...
    I consider the manifestations of separatism stupid, provocative and adventurous ... They contain nothing but their own vanity ... We are a federal state and each subject has the right to negotiate some conditions for itself, while not forgetting that it uses a huge market, our power army, the fruits of our culture and science. Russia represents Tatarstan, for example, in the international arena. In general, the calls for separatism, and even in the enclave subjects of the country, is work for the collapse of the country in general, and not for the happiness of its own people. And naive thoughts that the oil of Tatarstan and Bashkiria, as well as the "cleverness" of the bosses will help them survive, is a deep delusion ...
    As for everything else, I have a Russian passport, I’m Russian myself, in the column on nationality for the census I can write down either by nationality of origin, or by knowledge of the national language (Chuvash, Komi-Permyak, Russian) ...
  38. Wurger
    Wurger 8 February 2014 11: 02
    -4
    The author is out of his mind. These "tozherossiyane" feel themselves as masters, consider your women to be prostitutes, and can safely prick with a knife if a Russian has the audacity to look into the eyes of the mountaineer. The article tries to dress up the destruction of the Russian people in white clothes. Ator to the wall!
  39. siberalt
    siberalt 8 February 2014 11: 09
    +7
    Ivan Tarasov




    "Russia is a civilization, there are no nationalities in it, but there are nationalities included in this civilization."

    Yes you catch, dear. Civilization is Russian. And Russia, no matter how you translate it, is a country of Russians (that is, Russians). The whole world calls our Russians Russians, even when we were Soviet. And now we are told to be ashamed to call ourselves Russian. In addition, Russia is the second (everyday) name of our state, because the first is the Russian Federation. So call yourself the Russian Federation.
    No representative of the people in the world calls himself what, but says who he is. This is the deepest meaning of our universality. And do not chop our original roots. We will never become the West. We will remain Russian.
    1. Concept1
      Concept1 8 February 2014 11: 39
      +1
      siberalt 100% agree with you!

      For example, I know two ways or two reasons for the entry of "fraternal peoples" into Russian civilization!

      And in both cases, either someone weighed them down and, under pain of destruction, they joined or we weighed them, but for another purpose, to teach us how to live peacefully !!!
  40. kostik1301
    kostik1301 8 February 2014 11: 17
    +5
    YOU Himself Raziyanen .................................. was and will be Russian ....
  41. vikov
    vikov 8 February 2014 11: 24
    +2
    In Russia, there is no national idea around which a nation is being formed, in the Union it is good or bad, but you could issue a couple of dozen laws, call all Russians, but it will get worse, society does not tolerate emptiness, which we observe - spreading across national apartments.
  42. Month
    Month 8 February 2014 11: 26
    +1
    The author is a provocateur and an enemy of the people.
    Tomorrow he will say that my relatives living in Kazakhstan are not Russians, but Kazakhstanis.
    The names of countries come and go, but the Russian ethnos remains. And he includes such a thuja huva of nationalities and nationalities that it makes no sense to share it.
  43. buzer
    buzer 8 February 2014 11: 29
    +5
    I am not Russian or Russian, but the fate of the country and the people living in the state, which, according to the Constitution, is called the Russian Federation worries me. For the state is our neighbor !!! And we Kazakhs have such a proverb "a close neighbor is dearer than a distant relative" (he translated it himself, maybe one of my fellow countrymen can translate better)! So reading articles, opinions and comments on the topic "who are we? Russians or Russians?" I want to ask a question ... Who needs a state called "Russian Federation" ??? Russians ??? Or Russians? Or the Tatars? Or the Bashkirs? Or the Yakuts? Or the Mari? Or ... or ... or ... You can be proud of not only the fact that you are Russian, Tatar, Chechen, Kalmyk or Yakut !!! But you can be proud of the fact that you are a Russian too? If you hate to be proud of the fact that you are not a Russian, but it gives joy that you are Russian, Tatar, Bashkir, Yakut or Tuvan, then the hell do you need your country ??? After all, you will not stop being Russian, Tatar, Bashkir, Mari, Evenk and so on!
  44. Alexei-
    Alexei- 8 February 2014 11: 36
    0
    to the author, not ... I want to remind all Russians and Russian women that they live in Russia, in the Russian World and Russian (Slavic) Civilization. For the entire globe (primarily for the Anglo-Saxons, Romano-Franks), we are all Russian- Tatars, Bashkirs, Evenks, Ukrainians, Kazakhs (!!!!), etc. Regardless of nationality, we are all Russians! This is how Time ordered, History created that Russianness is not a nationality or religion. Russianness is a state of Spirit (community , spirituality, collegiality) .... and tie it up with all this crap - "myrassians" invented, drunk Borey (under the hooting of curators from across the ocean). We are united and feel each other and what is most interesting (!?) regardless of Faith and Flesh (customs)
  45. Concept1
    Concept1 8 February 2014 11: 47
    +1
    That's how Russian civilization was created!



    RUSSIA HAS NO BORDERS; RUSSIA HAS ONLY A HORIZON!
    1. Normal
      Normal 8 February 2014 21: 47
      0
      Quote: concept1
      RUSSIA HAS NO BORDERS; RUSSIA HAS ONLY A HORIZON!

      For a long time did not look Rasteryaev. Thank! Just ... to tears ...
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 8 February 2014 22: 11
        0
        Quote: Normal
        Just ... to tears ...

        Folk-historical-fantastic ballad <<<<<.

        But today is IT our president. Who will rule more, lea ((((n-atsat.
        And during this time, legends will be made up about Russians)))))) were such a GREAT PEOPLE.
        ..... but disappeared, disappeared ........
  46. Sewer
    Sewer 8 February 2014 12: 06
    +4
    I just put a minus, because I'm Russian and not Russian! Zadolbali already tolerast climb poses with various masks!
  47. wanderer
    wanderer 8 February 2014 12: 22
    +7
    The word "Russians" for some reason evokes unpleasant associations with EBN on TV and "you panic".
    In the late 70's, I served on a ship, where the crew was 24 people of 11 nationalities.
    Somehow near the Norwegians some kind of NATO bloke was training (diving) for us. An airplane with crosses was. So the midshipman, a Tatar, showed him a notorious elbow gesture and yelled - And you scare the Russian hell with ... ah!

    I see nothing wrong with the fact that Russian is Russian, Tatar is Tatar, and Chuvash is Chuvash. You can’t forget your roots. You just have to respect others.
    And the media will not hurt to turn the fur out and clarify who is casting a shadow and spreading this mold, who taught them and who broadcasts them.
  48. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 8 February 2014 12: 22
    +8
    And I do not like the word Russian, I immediately remember the nasty, fat face from the TV, with its "Dear scattered, understand!"
  49. alone
    alone 8 February 2014 12: 35
    +5
    I read the article, thought about it. At first I didn’t want to write a comment, but I changed my mind. I even managed to get a Soviet passport, and I remember how the processes of the collapse of a country called the USSR are by the minute today. But probably not everyone remembers this. One of the reasons for the collapse was that, in the USSR, suddenly everyone began to look down at one another and divide people into nationalities. The monolithic nature of the Soviet people evaporated and off and on. Today, again, but already in Russia they began to divide their citizens into Russians and not into Russians.
    Yesterday, one wise guy wrote a comment like this
    turcom Yesterday, 20:21
    I completely agree with the opinion that it is necessary to close the borders of the Russian Federation with the Central Asian countries. One year after the closure of the borders, take stock and draw conclusions. If the conclusions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation turn out to be true, then who are currently immigrants from the SA in Moscow and St. Petersburg should be neutered, including those with families, as well as all narrow-eyed (Buryats, Khakasses, Tatars, Altai, Yakuts, Chukchi, Evenki, and the like ) I am sure that a year later the above conclusions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation will turn out to be exactly the same.


    Do you think such thoughts will make Russia strong? Those who do not wait against Russia, they act, moreover, they act according to a scenario that once worked, destroying the USSR.
  50. vostok1982
    vostok1982 8 February 2014 12: 37
    +2
    According to the logic of the author, it turns out that there are no Russians in the Russian Federation. It turns out that Russians live only abroad of the Russian Federation? Are there Russians in Ukraine, the Baltic states, Central Asia - everywhere, but not in the Russian Federation? However.