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The two capitals counted the annual number of immigrant crimes.

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A few days ago, representatives of the Investigative Committee presented statistics on the number of crimes committed by migrants. The statistics so far affected the capital cities of Russia - Moscow and St. Petersburg. The publication of statistics related specifically to these cities is primarily related to the fact that the immigration flow from a number of countries of the near abroad goes to the Golden-domed City and the City on the Neva.


The two capitals counted the annual number of immigrant crimes.


So, the statistics of the RF IC on immigrant crime looks like this.

Moscow. Information was provided by Vadim Yakovenko - Head of the Main Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation for the city of Moscow.
For 2013, the year recorded more than 36% increase in the number of crimes committed by people who arrived in Moscow from foreign countries to study or work (first of all, we are talking about the CIS countries). In total, foreign nationals committed about 11,5 thousands of crimes in the past year. About 20% of all murders and 43% of all crimes of a sexual nature (rape) were committed by foreign citizens. At the same time, Yakovenko admitted that these are only those data that, as they say, were “in the hands” of the GSU RF IC in Moscow. In reality (and these are the words of Yakovenko himself) the figure can be significantly higher:

It is obvious that the real crime rate of foreigners is significantly higher, since statistical records of these crimes are conducted only from the number of those already solved.

The overall level of crime among migrants was estimated by the head of the Central Investigation Department of the capital at 60-70%.

At the same time, Vadim Yakovenko also singles out those countries, the visitors from which commit the greatest number of crimes in Moscow. According to him, this is Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. Yakovenko also noted that cases of extremist activities conducted by foreign citizens in the Russian capital have become more frequent. He mentioned the initiation of criminal cases in 2013 against citizens of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan who disseminated extremist literature and conducted active extremist propaganda near mosques in Moscow.

In the metropolitan prosecutor's office confirm the increase in crime by foreigners. The head of the Moscow prosecutor's office, Sergey Kudeneyev, stated that the total number of crimes committed by “non-Muscovites” is more than 26 thousand per year (the results of 2013 of the year). Such crimes are committed not only by visitors from the former Soviet republics, but also by “guests of the capital” from other regions (first of all from the regions of the Caucasus). Here the growth is 12% per year.

In the Moscow prosecutor's office complain that the situation with the detection of crimes is still not the best way. Detection of theft is only 17,2%. And if there is a small, but growth in comparison with the 2012 year, then the detection of such crimes as illegal traffic weapons, counterfeiting, drug sales and completely worsened in relation to 2012.

However, after the speech of the prosecutor, Sergei Sobyanin took the floor, who declared that the detection of crimes committed by migrants in Moscow had increased by a third ...

St. Petersburg. Data from the acting head of the Federal State Investigative Board of the RF ICS for St. Petersburg Alexander Klaus
In 2013, the increase in the number of crimes committed in the northern capital by foreign citizens was recorded at 34%. Every sixth rape and every fifth murder is committed by migrants of this status. Almost half of all crimes and offenses in public places were made by “guests” of St. Petersburg from the republics of the former USSR.

Alexander Klaus (for Fontanka.ru):

As for the social portrait of an ethnic criminal, this is a man from 20 to 30 years with primary or incomplete education, who moved to Russia without labor clearance. But do not cultivate ethnic intolerance in society. Crime has no nationality. And in our country it is not a matter of nations, but of the victory of lack of culture.


Alexander Klaus, despite the words that the criminal has no nationality, built up the presentation of these figures very expressively, noting the three "main" segments of the so-called ethnic crime. According to the GCS CS in St. Petersburg, these segments are as follows: 48% of “migrant” crimes were committed by citizens of Uzbekistan, 16% by citizens of Tajikistan, 9% by citizens of Azerbaijan. At the same time, Klaus openly stated the need to solve the problem of the virtually uncontrolled influx of migrants in St. Petersburg.

Alexandra Klaus:
Often, migrants, including illegal ones, get stuck together in outright gangs, terrorizing the local population. A number of districts can simply turn into a ghetto, where the law does not work, but real power is in the hands of parochial authorities.


So, representatives of the investigative committee and the prosecutor's office expressed their data about the increase in the number of migrant crimes. These figures say that if control of migration flows were real, then in 2013, this would save at least 15 thousands of human lives in capital cities alone. If the control of migration flows were control, and not the protection of these, the number of thefts alone would decrease by almost a third.

It turns out that the state, trying to get cheap foreign labor, eventually loses a lot of money trying to first somehow take into account and "streamline" all arrivals, and then loses money also on the need to implement a criminal law letter for criminals with a foreign passport . One day of suspect being held in an average remand prison costs the budget about 320 rubles (food, heating, lighting, use of sanitary communications, supervision, etc.). And in the capital cities, this figure is significantly higher.

If we take into account the number of crimes committed by visitors from CIS countries in Moscow alone (11,5 thousand per year), and if we consider that everyone spent in the detention facilities, even about a week (although in some cases the detention time was several months), it turns out a very round number of losses for the city budget - almost 26 million rubles. This is only what is called objective losses (minimal), and what losses the state treasury incurs from actions to uncover “migrant” crimes! And this loss is economic, and in fact there is also, perhaps, more serious - humanitarian ones. Gone lives, torn apart the fate of hundreds and thousands of Russians.

Of course, you can think about the fact that criminals are full among the citizens of Russia (including the indigenous people of Russian cities). So no one is going to deny it. The fact is that “not ours” are added to “our” crimes. The criminal pyramid is only growing, and it is growing more actively in the immigrant segment and precisely in the major cities of the country.

Given the level of losses incurred by the Russian treasury from criminal activity in the migrant segment, one can hardly be inspired by the words about the allegedly great benefits of attracting labor migrants to Russia. If it is profitable for private owners to hire a guest from a sunny republic (the pay is less, the responsibility is less, social guarantees are zero), it is extremely difficult to understand the statesmen who say something like “guest worker will help us”. What will help? - Drank the budget or throw out budget money for training, vocational training and, finally, for criminal procedure? Is this a state masochism or political "taxiing" with closed eyes? ..
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  1. Lk17619
    Lk17619 7 February 2014 08: 33
    +17
    Yesterday there was an article "Moscow - Tajikistan: the ability to lose friends" where a Tajik said: - accept us. Here's another small example of what the hell we need them.
    1. Kazakh
      Kazakh 7 February 2014 09: 43
      +3
      And this is because all the intellectuals (one person) went to work in Israel laughing and we got what was left
      1. Salamander
        Salamander 7 February 2014 11: 07
        +9
        Imagine: a young Tajik comes full of energy, the country is not native, people are strangers, but so far they are not driving - how not to fool around? In addition, usually come from the countryside, that is - almost savages ...
        1. kris
          kris 7 February 2014 11: 28
          +4
          And then who to drive on puting if there will be no migrants?
        2. ele1285
          ele1285 7 February 2014 15: 07
          +7
          Quote: Salamander
          that is - almost savages ...

          Why almost, natural savages, and this problem excites me more than the Maidan problem.
        3. AVV
          AVV 7 February 2014 22: 25
          +3
          Quote: Salamander
          Imagine: a young Tajik comes full of energy, the country is not native, people are strangers, but so far they are not driving - how not to fool around? In addition, usually come from the countryside, that is - almost savages ...

          There is no migration policy, taxes are not paid, their friends use ambulance for free (generic tourism), some losses, and they need to be compensated by companies that use migratory labor !!!
        4. blizart
          blizart 9 February 2014 14: 20
          0
          Here is my friend Kirghiz 70 born higher education, knows the Russian language better than many native speakers — Eugene Onegin by heart in whole chapters, Pasternak, Tolstoy is the same. I had to go to earn money in Moscow (you yourself only earn there), well, such a tragedy is in their homeland. The Russians came 90 years ago tamed (for some then purpose) and left without an answer — Saint-Exupery did not read at all. For a long time, I could not stand the education, didn’t come out or face that you are all savages on them, and savages — your grandfathers and fathers could be an example for all of us, and you yourself have shredded, lost your sovereignty.
          PS Now his wife in Moscow is cutting the nails of your lionesses, and he is not a foot, that’s the whole story - a tragedy
    2. vadimus
      vadimus 7 February 2014 12: 42
      +2
      It is high time to introduce a visa. At least it ....
    3. lelikas
      lelikas 7 February 2014 15: 56
      +9
      Russia is a country of opportunity! All gastres can earn from us without paying taxes, and in their free time, steal, rob, rape.
      What the government does is correctly tightens the punishment under Art. 282, which everyone has already nicknamed Russian.
      The St. Petersburg trend - the strengthening of police patrols by the Caucasian military units - so that they could persuade their fellow countrymen to obey the guardians ... I probably woke up in the wrong country, and soon the Sharia court will probably be introduced.
    4. Timur
      Timur 7 February 2014 20: 19
      +2
      1. In January - December 2013, the internal affairs authorities examined 28,35 million applications (reports) about crimes, administrative offenses, and incidents, which is 7,5% more than in the twelve months of 2012. For every sixteenth message (6,2%), a decision was made to institute criminal proceedings. A total of 1761,5 thousand criminal cases were filed, which is 5,4% less than the same period last year.

      2. In January - December 2013, 2206,2 thousand crimes were registered, or 4,2% less than for the same period last year. An increase in recorded crimes was noted in 21 subjects of the Russian Federation, a decrease - in 62 subjects.
      .
      20. Foreign citizens and stateless persons in the territory of the Russian Federation committed 47 thousand crimes, which is 10,2% more than in January - December 2012, including 40,3 thousand crimes by citizens of the CIS member states ( + 8,0%), their specific gravity was 85,8%.

      http://mvd.ru/Deljatelnost/statistics/reports/item/1609734/

      This is a stat from the website of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia for December 13 - January 14

      2 million 200 thousand are registered. of which 47 thousand were committed by migrants. how much is this percent?
      1. shuhartred
        shuhartred 8 February 2014 02: 17
        0
        Quote: Timur
        of which 47 thousand were committed by migrants. how much is this percent?

        That is, everything is all right, let them continue to "play naughty". The percentage is slightly less than two. But it was about the capital cities. In many regions, there are too few migrants to behave so arrogantly. Instantly put in place
        1. Timur
          Timur 8 February 2014 23: 46
          0
          I absolutely agree with you. even 0.02% a lot for guests.
          but confuses juggling and forcing.
  2. builder
    builder 7 February 2014 08: 42
    +14
    Visa regime and criminal prosecution for illegal stay in the country - otherwise nothing ...
    1. sds555
      sds555 7 February 2014 08: 50
      +11
      While in Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and others there are our bases, forget about the visa regime, be realistic, geopolitics and fees for it, nothing can be done hi
      1. Mihail29
        Mihail29 7 February 2014 10: 04
        +15
        It's not about geopolitics, but who leads it. The United States has bases all over the world, so they will kill so many nerve cells in order to get a visa (I know from my own experience). "Green cards" are out of the question. In my opinion, our politicians cannot decide how we need to behave defending our own national interests. We are always ashamed, afraid of what other countries will say, and what if somebody takes offense at us, but plus corruption, of course.
        1. sds555
          sds555 7 February 2014 17: 44
          +2
          Mihail29
          So Russia is not the United States, we can’t conduct such a policy, there’s just not enough money. Yes, and we will leave these bases, I strongly doubt that the place will remain empty and our sworn friends will not take advantage of the situation. And since it’s border with us countries, then this is a big risk for Russia. And then you get a choice or visas, or the presence of the United States, and what do you think Putin will choose? It’s clear that this is a kind of blackmail, remember how much effort and money it cost for the Kyrgyz people to even begin to close the US base in Manase
      2. strel212
        strel212 7 February 2014 16: 17
        0
        in uzbekistan no
    2. Slashing
      Slashing 7 February 2014 10: 29
      +8
      I agree with Lech (Major General). Do not let mother mother alien scum on Russia.
      1. Urus
        Urus 7 February 2014 19: 13
        +1
        Scumbag ... and what to do, Uzbeks with Russian-her inheritance_-in the region of 500 thousand souls, mostly old .. you-god-bearers_-have a trait, divine, forget PARENTS ..
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 7 February 2014 12: 36
      +3
      Putin will not go to the visa regime. This is anti-liberal! The main thing is to control the balance.
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  3. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 7 February 2014 08: 45
    +16
    That's what the Duma gets money for? Forbidden to indicate nationality in crime reports. Some half measures, chesslovo. It is necessary to ban statistics from taking into account the nationality of the criminal and only then will tolerance blossom in all its glory, and people will dress even better!
  4. UpgradeComplete
    UpgradeComplete 7 February 2014 08: 47
    +1
    No tolerance! 14/88

    But no one counts how many chocks disappear without a trace in the forests of Lena. wink
    1. Bepdukt
      Bepdukt 7 February 2014 09: 49
      +4
      And who counts them?
    2. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 7 February 2014 10: 16
      +12
      just slaughtered and disenfranchised disappear. and often the same Caucasians send them to a meeting with Allah, business
  5. bif
    bif 7 February 2014 08: 48
    +7
    It turns out that the state, trying to get cheap foreign labor, eventually loses a lot of money trying to at least somehow take into account and “streamline” all arrivals, and then it also loses money on the need to implement the criminal law letter against criminals with a foreign passport . One day of keeping a suspect in an average pre-trial detention center costs about 320 rubles (food, heating, lighting, use of sanitary communications, supervision, etc.).

    It's time to reopen the mines in Kolyma for these "guests" from the Caucasus and the CIS, at least some benefit will be
    1. Lk17619
      Lk17619 7 February 2014 10: 38
      +6
      What are the costs of decommissioning for what? In Vorkuta, 15 closed and non-preserved mines are standing. In direct motion with the clearing of the railway bed, and there everything is ready for reception)))
      1. Rodover
        Rodover 7 February 2014 20: 01
        0
        I support you, dear !!! And in our summers, taiga forests burn throughout Siberia and the Far East. So let them deal with fire fighting.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 7 February 2014 10: 45
      +13
      Quote: bif
      It's time to reopen the mines in Kolyma for these "guests" from the Caucasus and the CIS, at least some benefit will be

      But seriously, this is an idea - They want to earn money - no problem, go to Siberia, to mines, to logging, to develop infrastructure in inaccessible regions of the far north, and to prohibit work in large cities, also forbid free residence - only in special closed settlements at the place of work with a strictly limited contract period, you can issue a radio flight at the entrance, removed it without permission - deportation with a wolf ticket and entering biometric data into the black list computer database. How many jobs will be immediately available, companies will be forced to pay normal salaries by hiring citizens of the country and the general welfare of the population will increase. winked
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 7 February 2014 12: 40
        +1
        Like Siberia is a proper name and is capitalized. At least be consistent here.
        1. BIGLESHIY
          BIGLESHIY 7 February 2014 13: 32
          +2
          Quote: siberalt
          Like Siberia is a proper name and is capitalized. At least be consistent here.

          And what about your nickname with a small letter? Illiterate somehow laughing
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      3. BIGLESHIY
        BIGLESHIY 7 February 2014 13: 29
        +2
        Quote: And Us Rat
        it is possible to issue a radio flight at the entrance, removed it without permission - deportation with a wolf ticket and entering biometric data into the black list computer database.

        And you can bracelet with plastic on the neck, tried to remove, exploded, left the place of deployment, exploded winked
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 7 February 2014 14: 46
          +3
          Quote: BIGLESHIY

          And you can bracelet with plastic on the neck, tried to remove, exploded, left the place of deployment, exploded winked

          Liberasty will not allow wassat
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      5. matross
        matross 7 February 2014 15: 16
        +1
        Quote: And Us Rat
        at the entrance of a radio flight, issue

        It is expensive. Yes, and Russia is great, you can’t follow.
        Quote: And Us Rat
        to mines, to logging, to develop infrastructure in inaccessible regions of the far north, and to prohibit work in large cities, free residence, too, to ban - only in special closed settlements

        It is easier to permit only work in the manufacturing sector. Moreover, it is at a specific production, including agricultural, at the invitation of management. And not in the capitals. And no trade-service sector. No one will introduce visas, we will be realistic. But control-accounting is needed. Oh yes, and prohibit the purchase of real estate. Only rent and only with registration in the same settlement where they work.
      6. shuhartred
        shuhartred 8 February 2014 02: 28
        0
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Quote: bif
        It's time to reopen the mines in Kolyma for these "guests" from the Caucasus and the CIS, at least some benefit will be

        But seriously, this is an idea - They want to earn money - no problem, go to Siberia, to mines, to logging, to develop infrastructure in inaccessible regions of the far north, and to prohibit work in large cities, also forbid free residence - only in special closed settlements at the place of work with a strictly limited contract period, you can issue a radio flight at the entrance, removed it without permission - deportation with a wolf ticket and entering biometric data into the black list computer database. How many jobs will be immediately available, companies will be forced to pay normal salaries by hiring citizens of the country and the general welfare of the population will increase. winked

        Damn the Jews as everything is clear. Two hours passed, a business plan was ready, and what a plan! Tell me honestly impromptu or prepared? good Only we do not ride. Again, corruption will kill the idea, and officials will become more fat. Although something may work, and even better than leaving it as it is. hi
  6. waisson
    waisson 7 February 2014 08: 51
    +8
    there are enough problems of their own here, these devils still create problems. A tough policy is needed in relation to migrants, and it’s effective and not verbal - everyday and not shock that happens after another incident
    1. Ilja 22
      Ilja 22 7 February 2014 09: 14
      +2
      Give a hoe and a plow, let the abandoned fields plow, because it is also a cheap slave force))
      But in reality, such as you put it, a tough policy is not something to accept, but to translate into reality!
  7. FormerMariman
    FormerMariman 7 February 2014 08: 52
    0
    Throwing shit on the fan has begun! Give a rating to the article and the site !!!
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 7 February 2014 09: 29
      +7
      Throwing shit on the fan has begun! - You shouldn’t be so. There is a problem and it is very serious. If you do not start to solve it, it will be even worse.
    2. Bepdukt
      Bepdukt 7 February 2014 09: 52
      -4
      Yes, let’s be silent - I set it silently minus.
  8. treskoed
    treskoed 7 February 2014 09: 01
    +9
    It turns out that the state, trying to get cheap foreign labor, eventually loses a lot of money trying to at least somehow take into account and “streamline” all arrivals, and then it also loses money on the need to implement the criminal law letter against criminals with a foreign passport .

    The state is only losing. Oligarchs get cheap labor and, consequently, huge profits. The people also suffer from the crimes of migrants and from humiliation and even fear from their arrogance, rudeness, and trampling on the saint. It turns out that immigrants are needed only oligarchs. So you need to introduce a tax to employers on the use of immigrants to compensate for all costs at the expense of the profitable recipient!
    1. Lk17619
      Lk17619 7 February 2014 09: 13
      +2
      Yeah, they’ll introduce, and they will say we don’t have such ... And try to prove that this is not so.
      1. treskoed
        treskoed 7 February 2014 12: 48
        0
        [quote = Lk17619] Yeah, they will introduce, and they will say we don’t have such ... And try to prove that this is not so. [/ quote]

        There will be political will and a specific task — they will prove it. Yes, even with the support of the people! [/ Quote]
  9. mountain
    mountain 7 February 2014 09: 02
    +2
    However, toughening and repressions against emigrants, you cannot solve the issue of how they traveled and how they will go. Only the economy and the rise of production, the increase in jobs. And the cost is that, there’s enough work for everyone, if everything is done intellectually.
    1. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 7 February 2014 10: 19
      +4
      you can defeat the problem only by economic levers .. I have repeatedly said, make the use of such labor unprofitable (financially and time-consuming) everything! a couple of years, no problem.
      then the employer will begin to create conditions and use local ones. only ruble can achieve something
      1. UzRus
        UzRus 7 February 2014 14: 02
        +3
        make the use of such labor unprofitable - This is just the most difficult. Taking into account corruption and a lot of money from the use of Gaster labor.
        1. fennekRUS
          fennekRUS 18 February 2014 15: 40
          0
          I agree .. here it’s not chess, here you need to think (c) that is, to work, and not broadcast on TV.
  10. Horn
    Horn 7 February 2014 09: 04
    +19
    One day of keeping a suspect in an average pre-trial detention center costs the budget about 320 rubles (food, heating, lighting, use of sanitary utilities, supervision, etc.). And in the capital cities, this figure is significantly higher.

    - 320х30 = 9600 rub. per month. With pensions in 5-7 tyrov. With a minimum wage in 5,5 tyrov. Gentlemen, servants of the people and galley rowers, respected nanoprimes, but do not you think that this is already too much?
  11. brainkiller
    brainkiller 7 February 2014 09: 18
    +4
    Quote: Horn
    - 320х30 = 9600 rub. per month. With pensions in 5-7 tyrov. With a minimum wage in 5,5 tyrov. Gentlemen, servants of the people and galley rowers, respected nanoprimes, but do not you think that this is already too much?
    there were times when the ration of the officer 600 re was less than the ration of the guard dog =)
    Nothing survived.
    I think these costs, taking into account management expenses, are therefore more expensive =)
    Recently I heard that expanded clay factories were re-opened where they will use the labor of prisoners. (probably no more than 1000 people in total, very few). But this speaks of a revival of the use of labor by prisoners, so that they will soon become, as in the USA, a good resource.

    I am worried about one question, what percentage of crimes we will receive if this migrants are folded together with the Caucasians. Indeed, the export of crime from the south does not stop.
    1. Horn
      Horn 7 February 2014 09: 30
      +7
      I just see that 20% of those killed, if they had not been migrants, would have survived ...
  12. UzRus
    UzRus 7 February 2014 09: 33
    +5
    Fine! Smart law enforcement officers cheerfully reported. And what next, gentlemen? Well, where are your specific suggestions for solving the Problem? With tongue, everyone knows how to grind ...
  13. ed65b
    ed65b 7 February 2014 09: 38
    +7
    Where is the local criminal general? Looking au? hordes of savages are operating on your land, but they don’t carry a share in the common fund. laughing But seriously, then everything is sad and sad.
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 7 February 2014 09: 42
      +1
      Yes, they already shared, probably ...
    2. Kazakh
      Kazakh 7 February 2014 09: 53
      +7
      Grandfather Hassan, Tsrutsi, Auto Batumi, Shakro Stary, Artyom Arakelyan - Artyom Lipetsk. Do you think these people should tear the anus for Russia? laughing
    3. Burmistr
      Burmistr 7 February 2014 10: 23
      +4
      More than half of the local criminals are “authorities” from the former Soviet republics. Will they offend their own?
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 7 February 2014 11: 16
        +4
        Yes, what are they their own. Semi-literate gangs of rags. But the authorities should press on the ethnic business of the diasporas, then they would stir.
  14. Duke
    Duke 7 February 2014 09: 45
    +7
    I live on Nevsky Prospekt in the center of St. Petersburg, and I don’t want to go out on public holidays
    I see no St. Petersburg faces around.
    1. Bene valete
      Bene valete 7 February 2014 19: 13
      +1
      Turn on the TV ... there are all St. Petersburg !!!))))
  15. UzRus
    UzRus 7 February 2014 09: 50
    +4
    A number of districts can simply turn into a ghetto where the law does not apply, and real power is in the hands of local authorities. - But there are no words at all. Aw, power, where are you?
  16. Humpty
    Humpty 7 February 2014 09: 57
    +10
    In Kazakhstan, this issue was approached in an original way. There is a regime of maximum discomfort for residents of countries outside the CU. At the entrances to Kazakhstan, instead of the "Welcome" sign, you should hang "What do you need?" For countries with which the visa regime within Kazakhstan cannot be extended the visa. Foreigners permanently working in Alma-Ata go to Kyrgyzstan for 7-10 days and apply for a new visa and back to work. For others with whom there is no visa regime (except for the vehicle) 5 days without registration and all canay home!
    The car broke down, was late for an hour or two fine. A leg broke - a fine. Gasoline ran out in the steppe. on a couple of gas stations for which there was no hope of a fine. There are very few migration points and you just won’t register. This causes a lot of inconvenience for me personally, for example, because of this, it is almost impossible to fully spend time there, but this measure is understandable from part.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 7 February 2014 10: 31
      +4
      A visa is issued for a certain time after it expires. Citizens of the CU countries 90 days later need to register. 5 days is not included in the vehicle and it is possible to get to the destination and registration for 30 days, if you do not meet the 5 days for registration, a fine. (This is all who are on a visit or tourism with business). Migrant workers from quota firms, private individuals can hire up to five people for domestic work (repair construction), before registering, a private individual must pay a tax for them and renew this tax every month. Registration is easy, the queue is not big, at least in our south. For fines, well, try until you register not to break your legs or hang in the steppe and not to come in cars that break down in tight tugs where you can’t get to your destination on the way laughing . On the topic of the article, if the statistics are correct, then the percentage of crimes pertaining to migrant workers is high and probably the authorities need to start doing something to resolve this issue.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 7 February 2014 11: 02
        +2
        There is a category of cars that get stuck or break down where others will not pass. We always have a decent reserve of fuel, but we have seen enough of odd fellows who have enough fuel on some left road.
        If we didn’t tear the box or drown the car on the next ford, consider that the trip was unsuccessful ((. But I’m not talking about this. In Kazakhstan, despite the obvious lack of thought in some aspects of relations with migrants and tourism, the system works very efficiently and clearly.
    2. ed65b
      ed65b 7 February 2014 11: 18
      +5
      Here Alexander gave the recipe, why not apply? It works in the Republic of Kazakhstan and we will have it and the most important thing is that it’s necessary to invent nothing.
      1. Andriuha077
        Andriuha077 7 February 2014 11: 45
        +1
        China pays eq. 15 dollars for each identification of an illegal migrant.
        With mildly reacted officials there the conversation is generally short.
        As a TEACHER (sign up), personally check with any suspect documents.
        ^
        http://warfiles.ru/show-46170-gosduma-odobrila-zakonoproekt-ob-uchastii-grazhdan
        -v-ohrane-obschestvennogo-poryadka.html
        1. Humpty
          Humpty 7 February 2014 13: 04
          +1
          It’s easy to stay in China for a foreigner, though it’s not very cheap. Go inside the country wherever you want except for places with a special pass. At the entrance, they will inspect, enlighten, smell, a couple of times they can take a picture or give a thermometer.
          If it’s absolutely dumb, then they will take zhepese and some other objects, they will eat your sausage, cheese and lard.
          On departure, every day a visa delay costs 1000 yuan (100 euros), but not more than 5000 yuan.
  17. Burmistr
    Burmistr 7 February 2014 10: 19
    +14
    I was born and raised in Tbilisi. People are normal there, but there are disproportionately more moral freaks there than in Russia. The Russians perestroika there, they had to leave. And they did it right. Russia is a country of Russians, it is not necessary to turn it into a country of non-Russians. For every person there is a place in his historical Motherland. So sit guys at home and there is nothing for you to do in Russia. Do not spread your flawed gene pool among us. Already a problem we have to meet a young man or a girl with blue eyes.
  18. Flibustiero
    Flibustiero 7 February 2014 10: 25
    +6
    Yes, in general, they are crazy! Drive home and that's it. Apparently, our Puten is afraid of offending strategic partners in the CIS! But this is his mistake. IMHO. Yes, I agree that the half-breed is not worth it. All this will lead to a decrease in production in the future, since a cross with "Animators" will not bring engineers :)
  19. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 7 February 2014 11: 05
    +1
    The main migrant crime is the lack of measures to deport more than 13 million invaders who have illegally settled and are currently in Russia. For this crime, the bosses responsible for the borders should be changed, and now they should be sentenced to the highest degree. Charge complicity in illegal border crossing, shooting in view of the malicious assumption of an extremely neglected situation, especially large-scale violation.
  20. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 7 February 2014 11: 36
    +4
    Quote: kris
    And then who to drive on puting if there will be no migrants?

    By the way, rallies are the right of citizens, not a foreign rabble. It is necessary to adopt a strict law and close foreign-agency organizations that allow migrants to rallies.
    1. Bene valete
      Bene valete 7 February 2014 19: 17
      0
      All We accept the Strict law!))) Adopted unanimously !!!
      1. Bene valete
        Bene valete 7 February 2014 19: 23
        0
        And immediately the second law or cry ....
        All Patriots and fighters against migrants quit their bright, warm and well-paid offices and will sweep their streets themselves and will lay bricks on construction sites for 10 tyrs! In the "Forest of Hands" hall for !!!!!!
  21. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 7 February 2014 12: 05
    +2
    Is this - state masochism or political "taxiing" with closed eyes? ..

    This is the criminal activity of a gang of enemies of the people who have settled in the Kremlin.
    1. Andriuha077
      Andriuha077 7 February 2014 16: 40
      +2
      Moreover, this activity can be qualified under article 275 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “High treason”.
      What is this?
      The provision of financial, logistical, consulting or other assistance to a foreign state, international or foreign organization or their representatives in activities against the security of the Russian Federation.

      The official turns a blind eye to the migrant, depriving the country's citizens of the constitutional right to work, withdrawing funds in favor of the country of origin of the migrant.
      Undermining the labor market.
      By contracting public order.
      Gross violation of the rights of civilians.

      The tax to the treasury from the organization that has hosted the migrant for each should be at least the average salary in the region, or in the whole country.
      For illegal - forfeiture of business, businessman banning activities, lustration of a local official.
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  23. RBLip
    RBLip 7 February 2014 12: 56
    +1
    imported - had fun. counted - wept.
    1. Andriuha077
      Andriuha077 7 February 2014 16: 41
      0
      They imported and continue to carry alone,
      others began to cry.
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  24. Tommygun
    Tommygun 7 February 2014 13: 41
    +5
    Talking about the benefits of migrants is nonsense !!!
    Suppose a citizen of the Russian Federation receives 100 000 p / month. He returns all this money to the economy (rent, purchases, food ...)
    Tajik gets 20 000. Here he spends 5 000 on pasta, tomato paste and sunflower oil, the rest he sends home. Total 75% for the hill to maintain Tajikistan. Is this a benefit?
    In addition, it is absolutely not profitable for him to receive a "white" salary.
    Accordingly, he does not pay taxes.
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 7 February 2014 13: 57
      +2
      Quote: Tommygun
      Is this a benefit?
      Explain this to the employer, he will send you =))
      The authorities are too soft on merchants illegally using migrant labor.
  25. rereture
    rereture 7 February 2014 13: 55
    -1
    I propose to lift the moratorium on the death penalty, and to shoot illegal immigrants without trial.
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 7 February 2014 14: 20
      +1
      Quote: rereture
      I propose to lift the moratorium on the death penalty, and to shoot illegal immigrants without trial.

      it hurts abruptly you started, the first step is to train them to carry insignia on yourself. Yellow is already the last century - you can blue.


      I goofing.
    2. alone
      alone 7 February 2014 21: 42
      +2
      Quote: rereture
      I propose to lift the moratorium on the death penalty, and to shoot illegal immigrants without trial.

      belay Who poured his last glass? To shoot !! wassat
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 7 February 2014 21: 47
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        Who poured his last glass? To shoot !!

        Something inhumane. Maybe chopped off the head. A sword is more expensive laughing
  26. konvalval
    konvalval 7 February 2014 14: 03
    +3
    That's what we pay for cheap (for employers in our own pocket) power.
  27. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 7 February 2014 14: 03
    0
    What will help? - Cut the budget or throw out budget money for education, training and, ultimately, for criminal procedure

    Apparently the officials are on hand. It was better to spend this money on training their specialists, as in the USSR - vocational schools, where they trained high-class workers for factories, factories and construction sites.
  28. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 7 February 2014 15: 18
    +1
    We talk, we talk, but no one seems to hear us THERE and it's time! Quickly everyone forgot how many Russians were killed by the "smaller brothers" after the collapse of the USSR. The migration policy needs to be urgently revised towards tightening (look what is happening in the same Geyrope?) were carried out only in capitals, do you think it is better in other cities and towns? Entry of labor should be only by official invitation, after passing a medical examination, with the acquisition of a patent (required!) and a medical policy. For any even minor offense - EXPULSION (without the right re-entry) at the expense of the one who invited. Illegal migrants detained in the interior regions of the country (especially in capitals and large cities) - to send to earn on a return ticket somewhere in places not so close.
  29. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 7 February 2014 15: 34
    +6
    Power will always be on the side of migrants. Under capitalism, only profit matters, and migrants are “cheaper” than local labor. This is an axiom. Migrants are beneficial in the first place:
    - different types of "honest" entrepreneurs, as they are cheaper. It is not necessary to spend money on a migrant, especially illegal immigrants, in terms of high wages, social guarantees, and payments in terms of labor protection, honey, and so forth insurance.
    - to officials of all stripes for migrants do not require social payments and guarantees, pensions, etc. In addition, migrants provide cheap execution of contracts financed from the federal and municipal budgets.
    - employees of law enforcement agencies, because the migrant environment is a “cash cow” for these organizations, on the one hand providing a high percentage of crime for reproducing these same bodies, and on the other hand ensuring “shadow” financial well-being of law enforcement officers.
    - "shadow businesses" and other illegal entrepreneurs, as migrants provide these gentlemen with fabulous profits at the lowest cost.
    - simply to gangsters, racketeers, etc., since migrants are the nutrient medium for these elements on the one hand, and on the other hand, provides a constant supply of expendable material.
    -Medical workers, as migrants who do not have insurance, pay cash on their hands for treatment services.
    - to citizens who earn on renting apartments for rent - as migrants provide them with a constant influx of customers.
    -a heap of shadow entrepreneurs providing a "legal" and "illegal" influx of migrants, providing them with documents, work, legalization, etc.
    - to the state (inherently anti-people) in general, since migrants "lower the bar" on wages and social norms. guarantees for the local population.

    Migrants are not profitable:
    - to all other citizens. as see the line above, as well as they: constitute excessive competition in the labor market, increase crime and social. social tensions, discredit the very concept of comfortable living in a country, use all the achievements of society without giving anything in return, ruin cultural perceptions of the country with their appearance and behavior, etc.
    But, the state will by all means protect migrants for the aforementioned reasons, and this must be clarified firmly. If we remove the migrants, then all the superprofits of the nouveau riche, officials and other gang parasitizing on the migrant environment "will go into the woods." They will never allow this. And if you take and transfer to prisons or, even, exterminate the entire population of the country, then nothing will happen to the leaders of the country who serve the interests of the capitalist "elite" - pension and social benefits will simply be reduced. payments and will have to bring more migrants. Nothing personal, just capitalism.
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  31. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 7 February 2014 17: 07
    +5
    Very often, turning on the TV, you get on a TV show, somewhere a talker from the State Duma or from the ministry proves that without guest workers, Russia will not do, but by switching to another channel, you will learn about the dismal unemployment in small regional cities, in rural areas. So where is the truth about the lack of LABOR RESOURCES in Russia? Often, various petty little people say that everyone in the villages drank themselves and do not want to work — in many respects this is true. But are these people completely to blame? Those who came to power, with the help of American money, the reformers, destroyed, destroyed the Russian economy On a global scale, there is no place for people to work. Sociologists explain that if a person does not work for 3 of the year, then the probability that HE WANTS TO WANT to return to work is 50%, and if 5 does not work for years, then the probability will approach 100%. The current ruling group in the result e, reforms, weaned people to work and now it is necessary to teach people to work, even to create social rehabilitation centers. This requires the will of the people. possessing power and, indeed, interested in strengthening Russia. While it does not rush in attention. It is not enough to build ,, nano ,, - factories and create jobs - it is necessary to revive the TRUE NATIONAL HORIZMU. This is not visible; and without this, a lot of new jobs will get to “Gaster,” I, too, got tired of listening myths about, non-drinkers, disciplined hard-working, migrant workers from very average Asia. There are too many of them on Sakhalin; I have seen enough of them enough. These ,, true Muslims, drink vodka with might and main, eat pork, and try to work according to the principle: working less, getting more for work. In addition, aggressiveness towards migrants is increasingly breaking through to migrants. Once they shouted: “We don’t want to live with Russia! Russians out of ...” (Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan etc.) But when Russia gave them independence, the Russians (who survived, who could move Th) left, it turned out that without Russia, without the Russians, “true Muslims, there was nothing to eat, and they flooded into Russia. And now, having mastered themselves a little, they, who left their countries, their states, begin to threaten us in our country, in our country. If an entrepreneur, instead of buying a modern automatic production line and hiring 2 highly skilled operators, actually buys a used, semi-automatic machine, previously dumped somewhere in Germany, and hires for maintenance a dozen ,, gaster ,, because e Mu is cheaper, it threatens Russia, because it slows down the economic development of the country, threatens its economic independence. Recently it was shown how German road builders work: one road special machine, one machine operator do the work that we do 30 for a day ,, Gaster ,, for a month. Even in Soviet times, we were told about the factories where 5 operators work; now they are putting pressure on their ears with tales of nano-technology — where is that all?
  32. Svar
    Svar 7 February 2014 17: 35
    +2
    Who hasn’t been at least once in orphanages or maternity hospitals where the children of the refuseniks are located? So the situation is sad in these institutions! The children are mostly from the so-called Russians, too! Children are certainly not to blame for this fact, but what the authorities do is bring about whom for what! Mothers abandon their children
    leaving them to their fate, they don't give a damn what they say- THE STATE IS FEEDING!
  33. turcom
    turcom 7 February 2014 20: 21
    +1
    I completely agree with the opinion that it is necessary to close the borders of the Russian Federation with the Central Asian countries. One year after the closure of the borders, take stock and draw conclusions. If the conclusions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation turn out to be true, then who are currently immigrants from the SA in Moscow and St. Petersburg should be neutered, including those with families, as well as all narrow-eyed (Buryats, Khakasses, Tatars, Altai, Yakuts, Chukchi, Evenki, and the like ) I am sure that a year later the above conclusions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation will turn out to be exactly the same.
    1. alone
      alone 7 February 2014 21: 43
      -1
      Quote: turcom
      If the conclusions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation turn out to be true, then who are currently immigrants from the SA in Moscow and St. Petersburg should be neutered, including those with families, as well as all narrow-eyed (Buryats, Khakasses, Tatars, Altai, Yakuts, Chukchi, Evenki, and the like )


      fool
    2. sds555
      sds555 7 February 2014 21: 51
      0
      Quote: turcom
      I completely agree with the opinion that it is necessary to close the borders of the Russian Federation with the Central Asian countries. One year after the closure of the borders, take stock and draw conclusions. If the conclusions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation turn out to be true, then who are currently immigrants from the SA in Moscow and St. Petersburg should be neutered, including those with families, as well as all narrow-eyed (Buryats, Khakasses, Tatars, Altai, Yakuts, Chukchi, Evenki, and the like ) I am sure that a year later the above conclusions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation will turn out to be exactly the same.

      What kind of opinion? fool
  34. Evgen77
    Evgen77 7 February 2014 22: 12
    +1
    The authorities themselves signed that things are going badly. For each of these, it is a crime of the fate of our people. It is necessary to take measures. Although it feels like sometimes we are specially exterminated.
  35. ochakow703
    ochakow703 8 February 2014 05: 25
    +1
    That's a joke. We all make noise about the mess going on in the country's migration policy, and actions by the government have not been taken, and are silent. Is that a game like that? How much you need to spoil so that the indigenous population had nothing to breathe from the stench. I am always on the side of Putin’s team, there’s simply no alternative, but when I look at them an ...... m in this direction, patience starts to boil from the question - WHY !? Why not enter a visa !? Why not invite (!) Only workers of those specialties that are necessary in the country !? Why not introduce an institute for checking the reliability and professional suitability of applicants !? Why not introduce criminal liability for those gentlemen who hire labor over the hill, if it violates the law in the country of arrival !? And a dozen more why ... Or is it just I have such a bunt?
  36. Zomanus
    Zomanus 8 February 2014 09: 27
    +1
    Just laws are sabotaged at all levels. Have migrants come to work for us? Arrived illegally? So let them work illegally. We need to build a piece of iron in the Arctic along the coast, we need to straighten the railway tracks across the country. Build autobahns and stuff in permafrost. Welcome, slaves.))) I think that the governments of the republics will not be very indignant. if we pay.