Merchants cannot be ruled. A bit about the opposition in the Russian government

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Merchants cannot be ruled. A bit about the opposition in the Russian government

During the post-Soviet era, the composition of the economic bloc of our government changed almost every year. Alas, the results of these shifts, to put it mildly, are not obvious. Clearly, it is necessary to change (as I have repeatedly said and wrote) not specific government employees, but the economic doctrine itself, which our government is guided by.

The government proceeds as a whole from the doctrine of libertarianism — that is, the beneficence of unlimited economic freedom of the individual without any regard for society (the same liberalism speaks of political freedom). The technical details of the implementations of this doctrine, which have been tried over more than two decades, differ - but its essence remains unchanged.

What is bad? Essentially, first of all, the concept of libertarianism (and liberalism) only considers paired relationships between individuals, without taking into account more complex factors — in particular, not taking into account that the interactions themselves in turn influence each other.

Something similar is observed in modern physics. Photons - carriers of electromagnetic interaction - do not have an electric charge, and therefore do not seem to notice each other. But gluons - carriers of the so-called strong interaction - interact not only with quarks, but also with each other. Therefore, attempts to describe a strong interaction by the same mathematical means as electromagnetic, did not give results, even remotely similar to reality. Only the development of fundamentally new concepts allowed the creation of a unified theory, covering electromagnetic, weak (in many respects similar to electromagnetic, but provided with massive particles) and strong interactions.

The desire to limit the pairing interactions is primarily due to the fact that the libertarian concept, roughly speaking, trading.

Again, I have repeatedly said and written: production and trade are considered elements of a single process, but in fact they constantly compete with each other. Clearly, you can not sell what is not produced, and it makes no sense to produce something that will not be sold. From this point of view, the process is really uniform. But this does not prevent both its parts from dragging the blanket over themselves.

Moreover, in the course of tugging production workers are weaker than traders. After all, money, roughly speaking, impersonal, so that they are easier to concentrate in one direction than the goods. In each particular confrontation, the position of traders is stronger than the position of production workers, and they have more chances to win in this confrontation. Therefore, the famous American saying “the dollar to the one who invented it, 10 to the one who made it, 100 to the one who sold it” fairly adequately reflects the correlation of forces in this confrontation.

Moreover, I gradually had a hope that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was so actively focused on foreign policy, in particular, in order to limit the support of our traders from the outside and thus weaken their positions in domestic policy.

In general, when I first touched on this confrontation in the http://ibusiness.ru/blogs/20851 article “Many-body interactions” for the Business Journal, I noted there: in the United States of America at least half a century since the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Joseph-Patrickovich Kennedy — production workers are grouped mainly in the Republican Party, and merchants around the democratic party. True, since Business Journal is trying to keep itself out of politics, I didn’t point out there that in the Russian Federation it’s quite distinct and for a very long time production workers have been grouped around Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, and traders around Dmitry Medvedev.

Moreover, when the market is on the rise, the confrontation between traders and production workers is generally not so acute: there is something to divide. Although then there are all sorts of miracles. For example, Russian food producers constantly complain that they are forced to trade through large chains practically at a loss. Even when legislatively limited the permissible trade margins, the networks found other ways to ensure their interests at the expense of production workers - they come up with all sorts of admission fees, fees for placing counters at advantageous locations, and so on. This shows how strong merchants are even in good times.

But in the unfavorable - the merchants literally stifle the production workers in order to secure for themselves another month or another of relative prosperity. When the market falls, “there are always not enough sweet cakes,” as Bulat Shalvovich Okudzhava put it, this struggle escalates to a completely catastrophic state.

As far as I can tell, now the government can do absolutely nothing precisely because it is guided by the libertarian, trading logic, where everything is simple: I - you, you - me, and fled. The logic of production workers always focuses on technological chains that are more or less long in space and time. Mikhail Leonidovich Khazin regularly publishes on “However,” articles originating from a theory that relies precisely on this logic of the indivisibility of technological chains. The current government is in principle incapable of thinking within the framework of such logic - it is too sharpened by the logic of one-time interactions. Therefore, to change, I repeat, it is necessary first of all the very concept - to abandon libertarianism in general and reorient on theories emanating from the logic of large systems and large processes, and to select a new government for this logic.

It should be noted: in the current government there are people working within the framework of this logic of large systems. For example, the current Deputy Prime Minister for the defense industry and the current Minister of Defense are forced by their own position to think within the logic of large systems with strong interconnections. Therefore, I think that they will remain in the future government.

But it is rather difficult to hope that, say, the master of business administration Arkady Vladimirovich Dvorkovich will ever understand that everything he was taught in various nurseries of libertarianism is logic that can be guided by the maximum of the manager of the trading hall, and not the head of the state level. Of course, it is theoretically possible that sooner or later he will comprehend this simple truth. But in my opinion, it is much cheaper for a country to provide it with an opportunity to study not in the workplace, but to put a person into this workplace, who has already been trained in understanding how the state differs from a store counter.
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  1. +12
    7 February 2014 15: 26
    all right, the country has come into stagnation to put it mildly, the question is how soon will Medvedev resign or will Putin still clear this swamp after the Olympics? It’s scary to imagine that power will pass hands to a demon without the control of VV
    1. +7
      7 February 2014 15: 53
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      It’s scary to imagine that power will pass hands to the dimon ...

      Putin created Medvedev, and you say power will pass to him! There is only one option - "I gave birth to you, I you and ..." !!!
      1. 0
        7 February 2014 16: 12
        Quote: Homo
        Putin created Medvedev, and you say power will pass to him! There is only one option - "I gave birth to you, I you and ..." !!!
        Everything at all - the resignation and head of the new United Supreme Court, but who is in his place? Kudrin, Golodets ... Who?
      2. +2
        7 February 2014 16: 58
        Quote: Homo
        Putin created Medvedev, and you say power will pass to him! There is only one option - "I gave birth to you, I you and ..." !!!

        Created it correctly, but about the transfer of power to him now, it is unlikely. The presidential term of the LADY is clear to everyone: "GDP left a place to guard." Who has been the real owner of the presidential cabinet all this time is no secret to anyone.
        Now the situation is fundamentally different and the receiver must be really strong and independent.
      3. -1
        7 February 2014 22: 43
        Quote: Homo
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        It’s scary to imagine that power will pass hands to the dimon ...

        Putin created Medvedev, and you say power will pass to him! There is only one option - "I gave birth to you, I you and ..." !!!


        Medvedev created the State Department while Putin could not radically influence events. Himself will fall off because just do nothing. If the State Department didn’t really support him, he would be listed in contingent posts.
    2. acute
      +2
      7 February 2014 16: 06
      If Medvedev will be Maidan, but much more bloody
      1. acute
        +2
        7 February 2014 17: 28
        And what are you minus? Isn’t it? Medvedev, by no means, pulls above the owner of a law office
        1. acute
          +2
          7 February 2014 17: 29
          and I’ve already tried the power, and his accomplices won’t just let him go
          1. 0
            7 February 2014 22: 46
            Quote: akut
            and I’ve already tried the power, and his accomplices won’t just let him go


            Medvedev is a talking head. At least let him try to make all the same opinions can not.
        2. +1
          7 February 2014 22: 45
          Quote: akut
          And what are you minus? Isn’t it? Medvedev, by no means, pulls above the owner of a law office


          They’re munus by the cash desk. The country is not that, there is no Maidan, there are no Westerners either, we don’t want to join the European Union initially. Where can the maidun come from ??
    3. 0
      7 February 2014 22: 40
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      all right, the country has come into stagnation to put it mildly, the question is how soon will Medvedev resign or will Putin still clear this swamp after the Olympics? It’s scary to imagine that power will pass hands to a demon without the control of VV



      Honestly, without control of GDP, the country will not remain for sure. There is an assumption that they formed a certain strawberry there, according to the principle of how Ontole speaks about DAM and GDP. So all more or less serious people say so in the cards are thrown on the hut at the GDP, and at DAM on the hut they just discuss it. Regarding the one who will replace Vladimir Vladimirovich - all the possible figures on the screens. Each official or minister or deputy prime minister who is mentioned in the compartment with the country's policies and GDP in particular is the candidate for replacement. I think by the end of the current period of GDP, either the election law will change or such a candidate will be for which everyone will vote. I also think that in any case, the GDP will not leave the government while it is alive, and it will live for a really long time.
      1. 0
        9 February 2014 15: 42
        That's just about unrealistic for a long time and whether that is the GDP that wore portfolios for Sobchak.
    4. saber1357
      -1
      7 February 2014 23: 47
      Yes, I also have an iPad, ha ha!
      1. 0
        9 February 2014 15: 43
        And his FSB and FAPSI set up? wink
  2. +3
    7 February 2014 15: 28
    Yeah. Our government has learned to trade and sell well. But alas, it does not work to build.
    1. +1
      7 February 2014 22: 47
      Quote: Greenwood
      Yeah. Our government has learned to trade and sell well. But alas, it does not work to build.


      Alas, he is not even able to trade - only to steal. The good news is that if they learn to produce, they will learn to trade.
  3. +5
    7 February 2014 15: 33
    Traders in power - wait for trouble!
    1. +1
      7 February 2014 17: 00
      Right. One has already managed. Effective manager ... damn it! Shoigu, for all its performance, will be raked for a long time.
  4. makarov
    +8
    7 February 2014 15: 33
    "that in the Russian Federation, quite clearly and for a very long time, production workers have been grouping around Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, and merchants around Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev."

    Duck here on the site, as they say, "every dog ​​knows about it" .....
    1. -4
      7 February 2014 16: 07
      Quote: makarov
      that in the Russian Federation, quite clearly and for a very long time, production workers are grouped around Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

      Quote: makarov
      Duck here on the site, as they say, "every dog ​​knows about it

      I don’t know, enlighten. Name the grouped industrialists, if not difficult.
      1. makarov
        0
        7 February 2014 18: 19
        The most important "production" - by the name of the Red Beast. For all 20 years since that shit has not drowned, it only becomes more and more "productive" hi
    2. -2
      7 February 2014 16: 17
      Quote: makarov
      Duck here on the site, as they say, "every dog ​​knows about it" .....

      - that's not news. And here's the news - Wasserman vs. Dvorkovich. And which one is correct, and which one is a mutant? laughing laughing
      1. makarov
        -1
        7 February 2014 18: 25
        Well, you too, say this ... of course Wasserman will be thicker laughing
    3. Veteran Vlad.
      -1
      7 February 2014 17: 18
      Quote: makarov
      for a very long time, industrialists have been grouping around Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

      If production workers are grouped around Putin, THEN I AM THEN A SPANISH PILOT
      AND WHAT ARE THESE SUCH PRODUCING?
      1. makarov
        -1
        7 February 2014 20: 29
        THEN I THEN SPANISH PILOT
        AND WHAT ARE THESE SUCH PRODUCING?
        Do not be discouraged as we give the pilot the order you need, and on the occasion of parabellum! love

        And on the account of that - What is produced? So the answer is simple. They produce the production of money (according to the loot). wassat lol
  5. +2
    7 February 2014 15: 50
    Now the government can do absolutely nothing precisely because it is guided by the logic of libertarian, trade, where everything is simple: I - to you, you - to me, and fled.

    So many members of our government are now simple, or more precisely, the simplest. Like amoebas, capable of supporting only their existence.
  6. predator.3
    +6
    7 February 2014 16: 02
    But it’s quite difficult to hope that, for example, the Master of Business Administration Arkady Vladimirovich Dvorkovich will someday realize that everything he was taught in various nurseries of libertarianism is a logic that can guide the maximum sales floor manager, and not the head of the state level.

    Prime Minister Dima also did not go far from Dvorkovich, the same stupidity!
    1. +4
      7 February 2014 16: 08
      Quote: predator.3
      Prime Minister Dima also did not go far from Dvorkovich, the same stupidity

      Boyfriends! laughing
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      2. +3
        7 February 2014 16: 39
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Boyfriends!

        Yes, a couple, sweetie! Photos in the topic, +
        Two managers from "Ashan" on vacation in Turkey laughing
        1. 0
          7 February 2014 17: 30
          Beavis and Butthead
    2. 0
      7 February 2014 16: 19
      Prime Minister Dima also did not go far from Dvorkovich, the same stupidity!

      And he and Ara walk in pairs. Aki Doves.
    3. 0
      7 February 2014 17: 08
      Dvorkovich has no experience, after the institute, immediately the Academy of Public Administration and the Administration ...
      Medvedev is definitely not a lawyer, such things are burning, you are amazed)))
      Ministers appointed by VVPutin when He did not go to the Chicago summit ....
      VVputin himself from the head of the club grew up to the President, but in fact he remained the head .....
      This manifested itself especially vividly when He punished the ministers and, through mts, took the penalty (he didn’t want to be sovereign, they showed him that it’s not He who decides everything))))

      That the production workers "try" themselves with hopes near the GDP is true, only in vain .... PRODUCTION in Russia is allowed to open 100-200 people and spread rot with thousands of workers ....
      The economy of the pipe ..................................... The "pipe" of the economy.
      This will manifest VERY BRIGHT and very soon, I'm afraid troubles will start already at the OLYMPIAD !!!!!
      90% PROBABILITY.
      1. +5
        7 February 2014 18: 37
        Quote: Asgard
        VVputin himself from the head of the club grew to the President

        From the series "Passed a glorious military path from sperm to Marshal of the Soviet Union". All of someone has grown to something, but there are no faculties for the preparation of presidents. And what does this prove?
        Quote: Asgard
        troubles will begin already at the OLYMPICS !!!!!
        90% PROBABILITY.

        Why not 100? Leaving a gap? If it doesn’t come true - I didn’t confirm anything? So they would have written - "I think troubles will begin ...", it would be more honest. For example, I believe that there will be no problems at the Olympics. We will soon find out who was right. hi
      2. +3
        7 February 2014 18: 39
        Quote: Asgard
        90% PROBABILITY.

        KOZA NOSTRAdamus you are ours! laughing
        1. -1
          7 February 2014 18: 52
          Quote: Asgard
          90% PROBABILITY.

          Wait, it’s full of non-professionals))) so such a figure, and in general there is still such a thing-shuyka, the Olympics themselves will be seriously guarded and enough prepared among them (although 1-2x are enough to prevent ...

          Although there is still Volgograd. I am not nostradamus (your)) I am my own, just by the logic of the events taking place, in connection with the "opposition" to the Slavs (not Putin)) Western civilization - it is logical for them to start acting ...
          The 5th column wrote iconic lines — I DO NOT LOVE THE MOTHERLAND, the rotten intelligentsia issued a letter to the writers (although I did not read any of them)))

          Everything is not just ....
          There are scripts written in Tolmud - the Anglo-Saxons are trying not to violate them, led by "God's chosen nation" ... all the guys are NOT JUST SO ...
    4. 0
      9 February 2014 15: 45
      Well, I can’t understand how Dvorkovich turned out to be so high, is there really such a lobby behind him ???
  7. acute
    +2
    7 February 2014 16: 04
    Very correct article. In the current cabinet, with a big stretch, you can find people who understand what they are doing. Dvorkovich is a special song. And the prime minister and his vice are still leaders. I understand that it’s hard to get rid of such a ballast, it must be done, because no matter how long-suffering the Russian people are, everything has a limit. I would like to know what all these loafers are doing there, except for their posts that have huge business on the side (for example, Mr. Shuvalov has very interestingly recently explained to all of stupid Russia who he makes money for). How long will these bloodsuckers suck Russia?
  8. -1
    7 February 2014 16: 08
    They love to trade, they will also sell their Motherland "at a fair price." A return to barter is needed wherever possible. It is beneficial for the manufacturer, and it is beneficial for the buyer to squeeze the traders, get rid of intermediaries and different "managers" there. How much can you feed dealers?
  9. +2
    7 February 2014 16: 15
    Vaserman, as always in the bull's eye ..! "The capitalist will do anything for the sake of extra profits!" Marx seems to have spoken out .. (it doesn't matter) I think so entrepreneurs the bulk of the (talented) are shifted by money they are like drug addicts more more more ..! I once talked with one middle-class entrepreneur. Here is his statement "You see, I stopped looking at people purely human, I look at them as machines and immediately start counting how much I can fuck with him and get profit .. and I don't care who he is and what is in his soul .. "A powerful state is built primarily on the spiritual community of people living in a given country and the leader who finds this golden mean is often included in history as a great reformer .. Here is something I tried to express. hi
  10. yur
    yur
    0
    7 February 2014 16: 28
    All this is clear to us on the site, all this is clear to the highly respected Anatoly Wasserman, BUT ... When, damn it, will it reach the so-called "siloviki" and no less respected (at least me) president? Or does it turn out that the "siloviks" are not that strong, and should be cut off a little from my respect for the president? Comrades (I’ll use the old-fashioned way)! Please don't disappoint me !!
    1. +3
      7 February 2014 17: 05
      Quote: yur
      All this is clear to us on the site, all this is clear to the highly respected Anatoly Wasserman, BUT ... When, damn it, will it reach the so-called "siloviki" and no less respected (at least me) president? Or does it turn out that the "siloviks" are not that strong, and should be cut off a little from my respect for the president? Comrades (I’ll use the old-fashioned way)! Please don't disappoint me !!

      Yes, the fact of the matter is that not everything is so simple nowadays .. alas. Stalin didn’t have access to the Internet .. He blocked the borders, cleared the fifth column, sabotaged thieves) we feel everything and use the benefits of that time (even if you take into account half territories lost robbed us in the 90s ..) The first satellite! The first man in space was ours! and this is after a bloody and destructive war .. Stalin was able to find points in the soul of the people that need to be pressed .. (just don’t say that it all happened under pain of death and execution ..) I’m not harder for Putin to envy him, but I still believe that will cope (let him just try not to cope)))
  11. 0
    7 February 2014 16: 35
    With all due respect to A. Wasserman (and for me he is one of the few people not only erudite, but also a person with an analytical mindset, especially my own thoughts on the transition from "democracy" to "socialism") I will try to object. Our country is under powerful pressure from outside government. There are no forces to resist on all fronts. While there is a struggle in the foreign policy arena. On the inside, a controlled retreat. It's good to scold Medvedev, like he doesn't "fight." And if you don't have the strength yet? As the saying goes: do not shoot the pianist, he plays as best he can. The time will come, we will turn to the counteroffensive.
    1. +2
      7 February 2014 16: 57
      Dear dr.star75. Your cue, rather an addition or a look from the other side. But this does not in any way contradict Wasserman's monologue (in the desert ?!), which brilliantly rolls out Liberians in any wrapper.
      1. -1
        7 February 2014 17: 29
        About the "liberals", I want to somehow understand their actions.
        1. +1
          7 February 2014 18: 45
          Quote: dr.star75
          About the "liberals", I want to somehow understand their actions.

          It is very simple, as I understand it: the worse for the country, the better for them.
  12. AVV
    0
    7 February 2014 16: 37
    How familiar is it when traders simply turn their hands away !!! Therefore, for a country to develop in a balanced way, production needs to be helped, and trade without a piece of bread, butter and caviar (black, red, squash) will certainly not remain; in the worst case, it will shift to the consumer, but in the best it will work itself !!!
  13. 0
    7 February 2014 17: 07
    The composition of the economic block of our government ... But it is rather difficult to hope that, for example, the master of business administration Arkady Vladimirovich Dvorkovich ...

    "I'm standing on the asphalt, I'm shod in skis, only skis do not go, only I'm fucking ......"! What kind of government are we talking about? About Ukrainian or Russian. Based on the citizenship of Wassermam (citizen of Ukraine) and his expression - "our government", we are talking about Ukraine, but then why is Dvorkovich here?
    I'm going to take off my skis!
    1. -2
      7 February 2014 18: 00
      Yes Yes. Take off your skis and put on your glasses.
      1. 0
        7 February 2014 20: 48
        There is no need to read between the lines in my comment! So, you need to wear glasses. In every sentence, a citizen of Ukraine, there are words about "our government", while talking about a completely different country, namely, Russia!

        It seems your words ..
        Well, they can’t not stick their nose into the affairs of others and not be a plug in every barrel!

        Then you have a split personality - well, if you like it, then ours with a brush.
  14. 0
    7 February 2014 18: 13
    I agree with Wasserman's analytics regarding the motivation of manufacturers and traders.
    I do not share his views in terms of personalities. It seems that he is simply conscientiously idealizing the situation. Production-minded people in Russia have grown up. Their last squad is the "red directors" of the early 90s. They really tried to preserve the production environment with every means available to them. I knew some of them personally. They were a real threat to the then government. They were worn out: most of them were simply bought, tempted with the opportunity to rob their own enterprises or sell them to robust third-party robbers; whom they could not buy (there were also such "hard Iskra-ists") were simply kicked out without severance pay. So now - alas! - this social group simply does not exist. All "production workers" in fact behave like vulgar hucksters, taking apart the remnants of their enterprises while at least something else is spinning in them.
    And hopes for GDP are also an illusion. Then Meehan noticed everything for sure.
  15. 0
    7 February 2014 19: 39
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Homo
    Putin created Medvedev, and you say power will pass to him! There is only one option - "I gave birth to you, I you and ..." !!!
    Everything at all - the resignation and head of the new United Supreme Court, but who is in his place? Kudrin, Golodets ... Who?

    Sergey Glazyev.
  16. 0
    7 February 2014 19: 47
    I wrote several times on this forum that with this government, or rather the prime minister, we will drive into the abyss. A friend of Stouretkin, a fan of the humpback, the author of many initiatives such as translating arrows and "not a nightmare business." After the Olympics, retire.
  17. ABV
    0
    7 February 2014 21: 37
    I wrote about Durkovich Dvorkovich very beautifully, just a balm for the soul, and, in general, an interesting message in the whole article! +++
  18. 0
    8 February 2014 06: 14
    Moreover, I gradually had a hope that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was so actively focused on foreign policy, in particular, in order to limit the support of our traders from the outside and thus weaken their positions in domestic policy.

    All right! Before treating a disease, you need to remove its cause.
    Anatoly made a detailed analysis as always. It's time to give him the Order of Merit to the Fatherland !!!
  19. 0
    8 February 2014 08: 42
    Why go broke. They will listen to whom. Until they get the forks in the belly and will fatten. And then it will not reach for which they put the pitchfork to them ...
  20. 0
    8 February 2014 09: 06
    I’m very happy!