Militants leader allegedly involved in terrorist attacks in Volgograd destroyed in Dagestan

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Militants leader allegedly involved in terrorist attacks in Volgograd destroyed in Dagestan

In a special operation in the city of Izberbash on Wednesday morning, one of the private houses with militants was blocked. Those refused to fold weapon and opened fire. Later it turned out that the amir of the Kadar gang group Dzhamaldin Mirzaev was destroyed in the exchange of fire. According to the intelligence services, it was he who prepared and sent suicide bombers to Volgograd.

In the course of the counter-terrorist operation in the Dagestan city of Izberbash, the leader of the Kadar gang, Jamaldin Mirzaev, was liquidated. According to some reports, it was he who sent the suicide bombers to Volgograd.

“The house was blocked in Izberbash early Wednesday morning. During the negotiations, one accomplice of the militants surrendered. The remaining bandits opened fire and were killed. According to preliminary data, Mirzaev is the leader of Kadar militants among them, ”an ITAR-TASS source said in law enforcement agencies in Dagestan.

According to him, the information that he was the one who sent suicide bombers to Volgograd to commit terrorist acts is being verified.

According to Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the counterterrorist operation mode of addressing the operational headquarters operates in Izberbash from the 6.30 environment. There, in one of the private houses, three members of illegal armed groups were blocked. On the offer to surrender, they responded with fire, a shootout ensued.

The source of "Komsomolskaya Pravda" in the law enforcement agencies of Dagestan said that the killed leader of the Kadar militants was 30-year-old Dzhamaldin Mirzaev. According to preliminary information, he personally selected and trained two militants to undermine the station and trolleybus in Volgograd in December of this year.

Mirzaev also found the Batirov brothers, who, on pain of death, agreed to deliver the terrorists Asker Samedov and Suleiman Magomedov to the city on the Volga.

Together with the leader of the grouping, his “right hand” Yusup Yakhyayev was destroyed.

At present, a special operation to seize terrorists continues, two militants resist, reports Novaya Gazeta in the Southern Federal District.

Local media reported that, according to the intelligence services, two gangs who traded in the same area — Buynaksk (the suicide bombers who had committed the bombing were its participants — approx. LOOK) and Kadar — decided to unite and are now working together, YuGA.ru reports.

Late last week, members of the Buinaksk group Asker Samedov and Suleiman Magomedov were reported to have committed suicide bombing at the end of December 2013 at the National Anti-Terrorism Committee (NAC). In addition, the Magomednabi and Tagir Batirov brothers, involved in the transfer of suicide bombers to Volgograd, were detained.

The committee also stated that the organizers of the bombings can still be free: they are being searched and the alleged accomplices of the militants are being searched for.

Recall that before the New Year two attacks occurred in Volgograd. The first explosion thundered in the afternoon of December 29 between the entrance doors and the turnstile on the first floor of the railway station at Volgograd-1 station. The bomber launched a bomb when he put a bag on the conveyor belt. At that moment there were a lot of people around, among them a policeman who was inspecting the luggage.

The second explosion occurred on the morning of December 30 in trolleybus No. 15 in the Dzerzhinsky district of the city on a busy street, on one side of which the Kaczynski market is located, and on the other - a garrison department store. The explosion thundered at the moment when the trolley bus was moving away from the stop. As a result of two attacks, 106 people suffered, 34 died.

On January 20, the radical Islamist group Ansar al-Sunna posted a video on the Web in which it claimed responsibility for the attacks in Volgograd.

The video posted by the terrorists shows two young men with machine guns in their hands, who call themselves Suleiman and Abdurakhman. It is alleged that they were suicide bombers. The performance is accompanied by a display of photographs from Volgograd taken from the press. Islamists personally threatened Russian President Vladimir Putin that during the month of the Olympic Games several terrorist attacks would occur, and not only in Russia.
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  1. +18
    6 February 2014 10: 11
    There is God in the world !!!
    1. +19
      6 February 2014 10: 21
      Mad dogs must be shot.
    2. Natalia
      +22
      6 February 2014 10: 23
      In a special operation in the city of Izberbash on Wednesday morning, one of the private houses with militants was blocked. They refused to lay down their arms and opened fire. Later it turned out that in an exchange of fire, the amir of the Kadar bandit group, Jamaldin Mirzaev, was destroyed. According to intelligence agencies, it was he who prepared and sent the suicide bombers to Volgograd.

      This is the only and most logical end of any Wahhabite, discovered, blocked, destroyed. As for these monsters, this is what we will do with all the so-called "wars of the alah" for each of our killed, we will kill 10 of them.
      These are cowardly creatures who can do nothing but blow up trolleybuses with old people, women and children.

      By the way, my dad suggested a good idea, to send Wahhabi relatives to some Magadan, with complete confiscation of property. And then they were in a hurry there to paradise, there will be an incentive to think ten times, everyone has cousins, aunts and uncles, they all will go to Taimyr to put asphalt on the road, and you and your relatives will pay in full.
      1. +9
        6 February 2014 10: 33
        everyone has siblings, cousins, aunts of uncle's uncle - that’s all they’ll go to Taimyr to lay asphalt, you and our relatives will pay for you in full.

        The problem is that the Wahhabis do not think about their relatives. They themselves would get to the guria. And this is relatives, a cover.
        1. Natalia
          +14
          6 February 2014 10: 52
          Quote: Wedmak
          The problem is that the Wahhabis do not think about their relatives. They themselves would get to the guria. And this is relatives, a cover.

          Well, their family, it will be better to look after their unlucky children from childhood. Otherwise, as usual, it happens with the tacit consent of the ancestors: "go sonny (daughter), beat the unfaithful, but if what, then in the media we will howl tearfully and claim that we warned him (her) do not mess up blah blah blah .... "an old song about the main thing.
          1. +7
            6 February 2014 10: 59
            This is also true. You just need to make it clear that tearful howls and "Rafik is not to blame with sauce" will not work.
          2. +8
            6 February 2014 11: 34
            Why reinvent the wheel - everything was invented long ago by Joseph Vissarionovich, it is necessary to evict whole villages, even if there is enough room for everyone on Taimyr, Kolyma, on the south coast!
            And let them hunt their Wahhabi beasts themselves! Then everything will stop there in six seconds - they will cut all the Wahhabis themselves like rams.
          3. +1
            6 February 2014 21: 41
            Natalya. Children are the same. Innocent and beautiful. As they grow older, a person chooses his own destiny. These scoundrels themselves chose their own path. Not one parent wants anything bad for their child. Wahhabi preachers are good psychologists, professionals. They know how to find problematic ones. people and poison their lives
            Terror cannot be stopped by relatives. These villains, choosing the path of terror, abandon their relatives themselves. They do not care about their parents and relatives. Once
            I had the opportunity to discuss with several Wahhabis in my city, I realized how unhappy they were with their brains. According to their teachings, even if their parents don’t live like these Wahhabis, they’re wrong. I won’t tell how this conversation ended (I was not the only one ), but I dare to assure you that if these geeks fall into the hands of their parents, many will be liquidated by their own.
            These people have only one way out - bullet in the forehead. They themselves do not want another.
        2. +3
          6 February 2014 11: 48
          No, really! - The relatives will have a full reason (interest) not to let their relatives go into Wahabbits! In the meantime, they pretend: I'm not me, and the hut is not mine.
          1. acute
            +3
            6 February 2014 12: 08
            Yes, that’s not the point. In the Caucasus, family ties are very strong and no relative will ever betray another. you yourself recently blasphemed Pavlik Morozov. Now, what turns out, urge them to abandon relatives. In the Caucasus, this will not work.
        3. AVV
          0
          6 February 2014 23: 12
          Quote: Wedmak
          everyone has siblings, cousins, aunts of uncle's uncle - that’s all they’ll go to Taimyr to lay asphalt, you and our relatives will pay for you in full.

          The problem is that the Wahhabis do not think about their relatives. They themselves would get to the guria. And this is relatives, a cover.

          So crush these nits, and mate. take away damage from relatives !!! All relatives and their children must answer !!!
      2. +13
        6 February 2014 10: 45
        Quote: Natalia
        This is the only and most logical end to any Wahhabi.

        He "lived" like an Amir, but he died like a pig!
        1. -30
          6 February 2014 10: 50
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          He "lived" like an Amir, but he died like a pig!

          Here you are wrong, he died like a warrior, by his faith
          1. +20
            6 February 2014 10: 55
            Quote: PANZER
            Here you are wrong, he died like a warrior, by his faith

            He died like a pig!
            1. Hs487
              +5
              6 February 2014 11: 17
              He died like a pig!

              The pan in hell is hotter!
              1. acute
                +1
                6 February 2014 13: 16
                Yes, they are different, not like us, but why does no one want to know why they are like that, where does so much aggression and hatred come from? It's not just that they blow up our cities, kill our people. Where is it from? Someone in these republics should be responsible for education, employment, or I don't know something. if they are "warriors" from the cradle, so can they use them for this purpose, only so that their aggression is not directed inside the country? I am not an expert on this issue, but there are people who are professionally involved in national politics. If there are none, then we need to make sure that there are. But for the end result, not a bunch ..
                1. +2
                  6 February 2014 14: 01
                  Quote: akut
                  Someone in these republics should be responsible for education, for employment
                  - I must, here you are right. But no one answers! So they are recruited under the guise of Islam ...
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              1. +1
                6 February 2014 11: 53
                Quote: Z.A.M.

                Well, really, so Erag?

                I ask again, has Islam accepted?
                1. acute
                  +3
                  6 February 2014 13: 19
                  Alexander does not need to react aggressively, a person has the right to his opinion. No need to divide everyone into white and red, all have halftones. And do not burn them into enemies
                  1. +1
                    6 February 2014 13: 31
                    Quote: akut
                    Alexander does not need to react aggressively, a person has the right to his opinion

                    This is personal, after I hit him with a warning, he mentions me in every second of his comments. Probably not from a big mind.
                    Quote: akut
                    And do not burn them into enemies

                    I have no enemies! Another point of view is not a reason to record people as enemies, and banal rudeness is a violation of Sait’s rules hi
                    1. acute
                      +5
                      6 February 2014 13: 33
                      I agree. But we all must find what can unite us
                      1. +3
                        6 February 2014 14: 00
                        Gold words.
              2. -1
                6 February 2014 12: 07
                Quote: Z.A.M.
                just to put pressure on the "claudia"

                To the point))) and he pluses himself
              3. +4
                6 February 2014 13: 18
                Z.A.M. - "WARRIOR" will never be a BUTTER ... put everything upside down. In HELL _ub_people_ko_v_.
            3. +4
              6 February 2014 13: 57
              And in the pork skin to bury this tv.a.r.r.
          2. +17
            6 February 2014 11: 02
            Quote: PANZER
            by faith

            Where, in his faith, is the road to heaven paved over the corpses of women and children?
            1. -10
              6 February 2014 11: 07
              You seem like a naive Chukchi boy, if you believe everything that broadcasts from a zombie creator. After all, after all, they did not prove anything, just flunked and said that he
              1. +5
                6 February 2014 11: 12
                Quote: PANZER
                . After all, after all, they did not prove anything, just flunked and said that he

                Yeah, you give all the RAM to read? And probably shooting for special forces for a human rights activist is not an argument.
                1. -16
                  6 February 2014 11: 14
                  Provide, Mr. Troll
                  1. +6
                    6 February 2014 11: 26
                    Quote: PANZER
                    Provide, Mr. Troll

                    What about the names of those who pointed to the house where the terrorists are sitting?
              2. +5
                6 February 2014 11: 15
                Quote: PANZER
                You look like a naive Chukchi boy,

                21 century in the yard! I practically do not watch TV! Inet is! False humanism, this is a destructive way to self-destruction! Only you are naive here!
                1. -4
                  6 February 2014 11: 24
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  21 century in the yard! I practically do not watch TV! Inet is! False humanism, this is a destructive way to self-destruction! Only you are naive here!

                  And humanism has nothing to do with it, all the more so false, you just did not understand what I was talking about
          3. +17
            6 February 2014 11: 03
            What kind of warrior is he? Hiding in the woods, from around the corner to attack, lay mines, prepare suicide bombers - is this called a warrior ????? This is real gangsterism. Even the pirates in the Middle Ages had their own principles and laws (what the cutthroats were for), these are nothing sacred at all! And do not talk about faith, Wahhabism is not faith, it is a substitution of concepts.
          4. viktsavenko
            +11
            6 February 2014 11: 05
            What kind of warrior is this? Sneaking up women and children? He is a cowardly jackal and a bandit! They must be shot, like mad dogs. And for those who praise them, think about it, so as not to lie nearby!
          5. +4
            6 February 2014 13: 59
            Warrior?! Those. to send to kill civilians is now called "warrior" ?! Burn in hell for such warriors!
            1. acute
              +1
              6 February 2014 15: 33
              Of course, I apologize, maybe I'm wrong. Recently watched the movie Taras Bulba. Have you read the book long ago ?. So, if Ilm were shot according to the book, then a horror film would have turned out. And they were fierce on both sides. Killing of young children, pregnant women, bullying, violence. Someone will say such times were. I now think that these people are still in those times. Maybe something stopped in their development. Maybe Wahhabism supports such standards of living. They were stuck in the Middle Ages, where such behavior was considered the norm.
          6. +4
            6 February 2014 14: 26
            Quote: PANZER
            Here you are wrong, he died like a warrior, by his faith

            What faith? Did she have it? ...
          7. Hs487
            +4
            6 February 2014 14: 44
            Quote: PANZER
            he died like a warrior

            warriors for women and children do not hide
          8. 0
            6 February 2014 21: 43
            Quote: PANZER
            he died like a warrior in his faith

            And with whom did this "warrior" Chpuev fight in Volgograd?
            Yes, I would have seen such "warriors" on the lampposts!
    3. -12
      6 February 2014 10: 37
      Why not take alive?
      1. +4
        6 February 2014 10: 46
        Quote: PANZER
        Why not take alive?

        Go and try to take it!
        1. -3
          6 February 2014 10: 49
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Go and try to take it!

          Believe me, there are many ways
          1. +3
            6 February 2014 10: 58
            Quote: PANZER
            Believe me, there are many ways

            Well, you probably know better than the special forces from yes and how and what to do. They there are such suckers, they can’t take some lousy Wahhabi alive, so you would have taken them all alive and killed everyone without a knife.
            1. -2
              6 February 2014 11: 04
              It's not about who knows better, but who doesn’t. The end justifies the means as they say. It’s easier to fill up a bearded man with an assault rifle, then hang all the dogs on him and put a tick on it, so they say the leader of the bandit underground was eliminated.
              1. +6
                6 February 2014 11: 11
                Quote: PANZER
                The end justifies the means as they say.

                And how many lives of specialists are you willing to put in order to achieve the goal of taking alive?
                Quote: PANZER
                . It’s easier to fill up a bearded man with an assault rifle, then hang all the dogs on him and put a tick on it, so they say the leader of the bandit underground was eliminated.

                Well, so I say, go and fill up.
                1. +3
                  6 February 2014 12: 23
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  And how many lives of specialists are you willing to put in order to achieve the goal of taking alive?

                  Well, actually it’s not entirely correct, to track down alone, to catch and twist at a convenient moment is not so difficult for a trained team of specialists, he cannot sit in a closed room with a Kalash and a suicide belt for 24 hours a day, sooner or later he’s going to it will come out, it will go somewhere, and at that moment you can take it, and taking - shake out a lot of useful informationwho ordered who SPONSOR, and to surround the house with armored personnel carriers and crumble into mincemeat - clearly looks like a demonstration.

                  On the video - the capture of terrorists, operational filming.
                  1. +4
                    6 February 2014 13: 36
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    sooner or later he will go somewhere, go somewhere, and at that moment you can take it, and if you take it, shake out a lot of useful information

                    And if, according to the received infe, they are going to deal with explosives, how will you take it? And then, caches, warehouses, huts themselves are discovered, where they are sitting, then infa arrives. Judging what kind of work is going on and what is not without knowing it is GENERALLY stupid. Maybe the day before someone was taken alive and covered through it shaiku. We see only the end result.
                    1. +3
                      6 February 2014 13: 46
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      And if, according to the received infe, they are going to deal with explosives, how will you take it? And then, caches, warehouses, huts themselves are discovered, where they are sitting, then infa arrives. Judging what kind of work is going on and what is not without knowing it is GENERALLY stupid. Maybe the day before someone was taken alive and covered through it shaiku. We see only the end result.

                      I agree, but this was not about that, but about the very possibility of bloodless arrest instead of destruction in principle. Let me remind you:
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      And how many lives of specialists are you willing to put in order to achieve the goal of taking alive?
                      1. +4
                        6 February 2014 13: 50
                        Quote: And Us Rat

                        I agree, but this was not about that, but about the very possibility of bloodless arrest instead of destruction in principle. Let me remind you:

                        Yes, I understand, but how to take Shaik fanatics alive in the house. Yes, and the life of one commando is much more expensive, all of them combined. They die so much in battles with them.
                      2. +3
                        6 February 2014 14: 02
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Yes, I understand, but how to take Shaik fanatics alive in the house. Yes, and the life of one commando is much more expensive, all of them combined. They die so much in battles with them.

                        The question of proper planning and feasibility, how critical information can be obtained from them and how to take / remove them. It’s a pity for the guys, but such a job, at the cost of their lives they save tens and hundreds, and each of them, being called up to the special forces, knows what he is doing. In my unit, the motto was - "Who if not we?"
                      3. +2
                        6 February 2014 14: 29
                        Quote: And Us Rat

                        The issue of proper planning and feasibility,

                        We don’t know the nuances of each operation, hence the screams and why they didn’t take them alive.
                    2. +3
                      6 February 2014 13: 57
                      If there is solid proof, soak and point.
                  2. +2
                    6 February 2014 13: 46
                    But how many terrorists who killed Israeli athletes in Munich were captured by Israeli specialists and what is it for? Mad dogs must be destroyed !!! After all, the Government of Israel decided so and finally fulfilled its decision. The capture of well-trained terrorists is always a risk for specialists and civilians.
                    1. +2
                      6 February 2014 13: 53
                      Quote: Andrey 447
                      And how many terrorists who killed Israeli athletes in Munich were captured by Israeli specialists

                      Well, those initially had a command to destroy. But Mossad should be given credit, in the Gas Sector, the terrorist still does not have time to get out of the house, as his own corefans are already handing him over.
                      1. 0
                        6 February 2014 14: 06
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Well, those initially had a command to destroy. But Mossad should be given credit, in the Gas Sector, the terrorist still does not have time to get out of the house, as his own corefans are already handing him over.

                        In the Shabak estate area, Mossad has a slightly different profile, as in Russia the FSB catches terrorists, and the SVR is engaged in another type of intelligence.
                      2. +2
                        6 February 2014 14: 30
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        In the Shabak estate area, Mossad has a slightly different profile.

                        Well, not the point in this case, I am so in fact that Israel does it.
                      3. +2
                        6 February 2014 14: 56
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov

                        ... I am so in fact that Israel succeeds.

                        laughing

      2. +8
        6 February 2014 10: 55
        Quote: PANZER
        Why not take alive?

        What a stupid statement of the question, why the hell to keep them, feed them, guard them in prison! And do not forget that there is a chance for terrorists after serving 20-25 years to be released! The sense is from them with a gulkin nose! You think that they are all present , passwords will be handed over, yeah "sshasss"! They dropped everything and donated funding from the UK and Saudi Arabia, along with the prince!
        Your humanism does not climb into any gate! You'd better worry about the lives of the soldiers of the FSB and the Interior Ministry!
        1. -3
          6 February 2014 11: 01
          Quote: Sid.74
          why the hell do they keep, feed, guard in prison

          And then what is the difference between the fact that we feed them in the wild and we will feed them in prison? You probably forgot that the whole Caucasus lives on federal subsidies?
          Goddamn it for the other "wolves" to see they end up like dogs. Regarding the chance for parole, in my opinion, terrorism is not provided for, correct if I am mistaken.
          1. +5
            6 February 2014 11: 10
            Quote: PANZER
            Regarding the chance for parole, according to my article it is not provided for terrorism,


            There are especially grave crimes - terrorism (Art. 205 CC), assistance to terrorist activities (Art. 205.1 CC) or public calls for terror (Art. 205.2 CC), and the creation of a criminal community and participation in it (Art. 210 CC) . Terrorists, especially dangerous recidivists, creators of criminal clans will not receive the right to parole until they serve 4 / 5 of their time.

            According to the Criminal Code for obtaining parole from the presumed not required recognition of guilt. This condition is mandatory only in those cases if a person wants to achieve pardon. However, the Penal Execution Code states that the petition for release “must contain information indicating that the convict does not need to complete the punishment imposed by the court for further correction, since during the period of punishment he partially or fully compensated the damage or otherwise he made amends for the damage caused by the crime, repented of the act committed, and may also contain other information indicating that the convicted person had been corrected. ” Otherwise, it is called “taking the path of correction.” The presence of several “or” on the grounds for exemption listed in the PEC implies that repentance is not necessarily and can be balanced by any other “good deeds”.

            Well, that still believe about not being able to go free to a terrorist!
            1. -5
              6 February 2014 11: 17
              Quote: Sid.74
              Well, that still believe about not being able to go free to a terrorist!

              I did not say that I did not believe. It’s easier, of course, to kill the criminal than to amend the Criminal Code. Only time has shown that these guys are not afraid of death.
              1. 0
                6 February 2014 15: 14
                It’s more expensive to plant them. Even not to mention the content. This will be in the area of ​​the brain, wrecking, recruiting supporters. So only pork skin. IMHO
        2. +4
          6 February 2014 12: 45
          Quote: Sid.74
          You think that they are all appearances, they will hand over passwords, yeah "sshasss"!

          It is also not entirely true, in the end everyone is split - even the most fanatical, this is a proven fact, and even without physical violence, the main thing is literate psychological pressure. The only question is the time spent on this. Some begin to "sing" right away, some after a day, some after three, but in the end ALL are injected. We recently had one Wakhabite from al-Qaeda tied up, on the second day he began to testify as cute.
          request
          ... three Arab citizens from Israel and the Palestinian National Authority, aged 22-30, were recruited - each individually - by the leader of an al-Qaeda cell in the Gaza Strip, known by the Salafi nickname Aravi al-Sham. This person receives instructions directly from the head of the global Al-Qaeda network, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

          (And if they just banged him instead of arresting them, hell would have opened the whole cell, and they could have done trouble)
          1. +1
            6 February 2014 12: 59
            Quote: And Us Rat
            It’s not quite right either, it’s all split up in the end

            So I’m not exactly talking about that! If they are pawns, just ordinary terrorists never know a damn thing, except what they need to know! And in this situation it’s impossible to find a way to the world level! To the Saudis and the UK! and other interesting structures are needed! And we do not even give out obvious terrorists from London!
            Israel can hardly be compared with Russia! I think the specificity is different for countries! Moreover, it is considered that the financing of terror in Russia comes from all over Western Europe, North America and BV!
            1. +3
              6 February 2014 13: 37
              Quote: Sid.74
              So I’m not entirely talking about! If they are pawns, just ordinary terrorists don’t know a damn thing, except what they should know!

              He knows his immediate supervisor - this is enough to move on, to get one step closer to the snake’s head, besides, no one bothers later ..."when trying to escape ..." laughing
              1. +1
                6 February 2014 13: 45
                Quote: And Us Rat
                . "when trying to escape ... laughing "

                I still think that in Russia there are not terrorist chains but cells!
                And these same liberals that at first howl that terror is everywhere, horror, how to continue living under the "bloody" Putin! They will also enthusiastically defend the freedom-loving "activists" and try to put servicemen who were doing their duty! recourse
                1. +3
                  6 February 2014 13: 52
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  I still think that in Russia there are not terrorist chains but cells!

                  The cells may not know about each other, but they close on one contact person, the one who transfers money and tasks.
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  And these same liberals that at first howl that terror is everywhere, horror, how to continue living under the "bloody" Putin! They will also enthusiastically defend the freedom-loving "activists" and try to put servicemen who were doing their duty!

                  We also have enough of such mu..kov, sometimes you want to pile them up and evict them somewhere to their beloved terrorists, and see how long and in what poses they will be loved there. Sometimes I doubt that the worst is religious fundamentalism or infantile idealism. sad
                  1. +3
                    6 February 2014 13: 58
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    The cells may not know about each other, but they close on one contact person, the one who transfers money and tasks.

                    Everything is correct, but this one, those connected with big ears, who unite these chains and cells, can be untouchable for the time being, of course, as it was with the mayor of Makhachkala! Banditry and terrorism are complementary things to each other and this is a serious problem of the North Caucasus!
        3. AK-47
          +1
          6 February 2014 13: 15
          Quote: Sid.74
          ... why the hell to keep, feed, guard them in prison!

          This is not the point, the "moment of truth" is important - the grandmother has arrived!
          1. +1
            6 February 2014 13: 26
            Quote: AK-47
            This is not the point, the "moment of truth" is important - the grandmother has arrived!


            This means that everyone has been uncovered, liquidated, and the military operation is no longer necessary! Right!
            And we have the opposite situation, only in that year about 260 militants were liquidated!
      3. +6
        6 February 2014 11: 04
        What for? Judge for life? As a taxpayer, I do not want to feed these geeks at all. The price of their life is equal to the price of a cartridge.
        1. -6
          6 February 2014 11: 08
          You feed them already))))) from your taxes, in prison or in the wild
          1. +8
            6 February 2014 11: 16
            Are you talking about subsidies to the Caucasus? So they kind of started to decline. But still, for me, it makes a difference to feed the civilian population and the bandit with blood in his hands while in prison. The latter is not needed at all by society.
            1. -2
              6 February 2014 11: 30
              Quote: Wedmak
              So they kind of started to decline.

              Well, yes, little comfort)))
              Quote: Wedmak
              But still, for me, it makes a difference to feed the civilian population and the bandit with blood in his hands while in prison. The latter is not needed at all by society.

              Yeah, it gave it and it didn’t)))))
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    4. acute
      +1
      6 February 2014 12: 01
      Hope for God, but don’t be fooled. The state has taken unprecedented measures to protect the Olympics. And rightly so. You can’t allow outrages during games, and after them too. you need to act tough and work on warning, as Massad does
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    1. Salamander
      +3
      6 February 2014 10: 20
      So destroyed - militants! Presumably their involvement in the attack.
    2. +6
      6 February 2014 10: 29
      It was necessary to kill people in Ryazan who had fallen on the tab in the Residential building of three bags with Hexagen-THE TRUTH PRESENTED THE CORDS OF THE FSB

      Evidence in the studio. Together with the confirmation of the service of these people in the FSB.
      The house is blocked for a reason and not the first one that comes across. People with automatic weapons, entrenched in the house and opening fire on the special forces in response to the offer to surrender, are automatically entered into the "terrorists" section and destroyed. If there are no hostages, together with the house.
      Let’s kill them all, how the hell does the POLICE and SPECIAL SERVICES do it ...

      And for this you honestly deserved a minus.
      1. +8
        6 February 2014 10: 56
        Well, I will put + in advance to you Denis)))
        As for Ryazan I will not prove anything, if it’s interesting on the network, EVERYTHING IS ....
        There would be a desire to understand ....

        Alas, I see no such desire from "bloggers" on our website. Tomorrow you will be declared a militant and a grenade through the window. All the rest will write about what kind of parasite, it was “disguised” for so long .... his wife and his children on Taimyr (lay the asphalt in the permafrost))) .....
        Fuck us state-in? Special forces ??? special equipment?
        There is a grenade launcher, let's crumb all !!!!

        In Soviet times, I served in the first Chechen special forces. We always took militants (ALWAYS alive)), interrogated and .... destroyed (there was a war))) we had limited means and motivation in the form of cut teachers with a chainsaw and kids with open stomachs .....

        Wait an advantage in the Force, Armaments, Numerical strength, on the side of the special Forces ...
        There are not enough brains ??? either intentionally killed (rather the second))
        1. Brother77
          +3
          6 February 2014 11: 13
          Asgard, it hurt so much for your words, for taking it alive, that it reminded me of my military childhood, I think I’ll understand what my opinion is, of course, that you should try to take them alive, but the decision is made on the spot by the commander who knows best, but I would like appearances and passwords with names and addresses, I talked with such scumbags from home - I must say that their language is suspended very much like that of nakhih diggers (everything would be done just to do nothing)
          1. +6
            6 February 2014 11: 43
            You take a drill on the batteries and start drilling shoes ...
            They tell everything, even that which they do not know))))) and this turns out to be true)))

            You do not know the specifics of special training.
            They are taught not to shoot at people with a grenade launcher, They are taught to think with the help of special tools and special knowledge ...
            Shoot accurately taught in places of immobilization, and not kill ...
            Work in a team, by sector ..... if you come across such specialists, you have no chance, even if you are on the tank ....
            And what about the militants, the peasants overgrown (without spiritual brakes), just the media outlets ... and believe me, when I didn’t see the animal cowardly one by one .....
            Here I have a Bear living in my career, I communicate normally, takes condensed milk from my hands because it’s an adequate Animal)))
            And most importantly, both He and I feel strength and do not get lost in the "pack" ...
            1. -1
              6 February 2014 11: 57
              Quote: Asgard
              You take a drill on the batteries and start drilling shoes ..

              And where did you get drills with batteries in Grozny in 94-95?
        2. +3
          6 February 2014 11: 22
          Quote: Asgard
          Tomorrow you will be declared an action movie and a grenade in the window

          So I can imagine how an APC with special forces arrives at my house and they throw me grenades wassat
          Quote: Asgard
          As for Ryazan I will not prove anything, if it’s interesting on the network, EVERYTHING IS ...

          You have already posted links to this network, made in the USA.
          Quote: Asgard
          I’ve served in the special unit in Soviet times and the first Chechen

          In the first Chechen period, there was no longer Soviet time.
          Quote: Asgard
          ? either intentionally killed (rather the second))

          No, accidentally by return fire.
          1. +5
            6 February 2014 12: 22
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I’ve served in the special unit in Soviet times and the first Chechen
            In the first Chechen period, there was no longer Soviet time.

            Alexander, in general, Asgard divided this time. For it is written "in Soviet times and the first Chechen", and not "In Soviet times, in the first Chechen." Union "and" it means a lot in the Russian language, that is why it is "union" ...
            As for Asgard’s ideas, I can tell you that there are enough oddities. Take Volgograd, an explosion at the station, at least a suicide bomber exploded, as they say below, an ordinary shahid’s belt with striking elements. But why did the chandelier above the place of the explosion remain untouched?
            1. 0
              6 February 2014 12: 33
              After the explosion, the photo is made. It is clickable.
              1. +2
                6 February 2014 12: 52
                I can say one thing, these chandeliers are quite heavy pieces and it is not so easy to knock glass off them (we sell such, it is easy to reach half a ton). It can beat individual elements, even knock down a couple of balls, but in order to damage the chandelier entirely, knock down the "hanging" from it, you need to shoot an anti-aircraft missile at it, no less - and that is not a fact that it will knock everything down.
                1. 0
                  6 February 2014 14: 18
                  Quote: Wedmak
                  One thing I can say, these chandeliers are quite heavy things and knocking glass off them is not so simple (

                  An explosive device of 10 kg in TNT equivalent on the floor surface or at a distance of 1 m from the surface no more. Not to mention the damaging elements, the speed of which reaches 700-800 m / s, this chandelier should have been blown out over the ceiling by a blast wave. The distance is no more than 6- 8 meters.
                  I conclude as follows: the explosion or explosions were directed, carried out remotely from the bookmarks.
                  The scope of the metal detector and the entrance rolled out into the trash, and at least henna for the glass. I give a photo where the glasses smashed by the explosion are on the same level with the chandelier, but at a much greater distance. The devices were most likely at the top with the direction of the explosion down from the right and left sides of the entrance . Otherwise it’s hard to explain all this. Clickable.
              2. +1
                6 February 2014 14: 37
                Quote: baltika-18
                After the explosion, the photo is made. It is clickable.

                The explosion occurred during the day if you do not know, but this photo was taken at night and the devil knows what day after the explosion, I’ll tell you, as an electrician, if the wiring doesn’t damage the light bulbs to replace the fun thing! Moreover, IEDs are being made to kill people and not to break chandeliers, a crazy idea to build conclusions on the basis of one chandelier!
                1. +2
                  6 February 2014 15: 01
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  , a crazy idea to build a conclusion based on one chandelier!

                  If only. And the photo was taken that evening. Find (if the topic interests you) a photo of the place of the explosion from various angles, there are a lot of them. Compare the traces on the walls of the fragments, the direction and location of the tan marks. And the ceiling is clean, not a single scratch. Well, nothing official does not fit into the scheme
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  I carefully read komenty including Asgard

                  Yes, he has kookies, what can you do, but in some ways he is definitely right.
            2. +3
              6 February 2014 14: 35
              Quote: baltika-18

              Alexander, actually Asgard divided this time.

              You know Kolya, I carefully read the comments, including Asgard. And in this case, I saw what he wrote, but there is much but in his comments, namely who is he? Honor his profession, geologist, engineer, and now also special forces.
              As for the chandelier, hell knows if there was a belt where the blasting main blast wave went. The chandelier could be cut by fragments, but it will remain hanging.
        3. +5
          6 February 2014 11: 26
          everything is online ....

          Online speculation and facts twisted into a Moebius tape. They need to be trusted with great care and numerous checks. Unfortunately, an ordinary user will not be able to conduct such reliable checks.
          Alas, I see no such desire from "bloggers" on our website.

          That is, you, as a fighter (former?) Of special forces, believe everything that is on the network and so just blame "your" security forces for blowing up houses ??? Are you not ashamed to look your colleagues in the eyes?
          Wait an advantage in the Force, Armaments, Numerical strength, on the side of the special Forces ...

          Tell me, as a fighter with experience, what has changed in this particular situation? The bandit locked himself in the house and is not going to give up, the house is surrounded by special forces, armored personnel carriers keep windows and doors on the fly, the area is cordoned off.
          Tell me, why break into this house by storm, with the risk of getting a bullet or, even worse, an explosion with a fatal outcome for all participants ??? The bandit does not want to surrender, he fires back and yells "Allah Akbar" in a good voice. For a little chance to get him to talk ???? Would you dare to go for this assault yourself ???
        4. Salamander
          +3
          6 February 2014 11: 29
          We always took (ALWAYS alive)), interrogated and .... destroyed (there was a war)))


          And now you can’t destroy !!! They will sit with a chance to come out and freedom (illegally), educate their followers! No use, they still will not give out anything, and the special forces will suffer greater losses in an attempt to take alive ...
          1. +5
            6 February 2014 14: 39
            Quote: Salamander
            We always took (ALWAYS alive)), interrogated and .... destroyed (there was a war)))


            And now you can’t destroy !!! They will sit with a chance to come out and freedom (illegally), educate their followers! No use, they still will not give out anything, and the special forces will suffer greater losses in an attempt to take alive ...

            Well, yes, so Raduyev came out .... with his feet forward.
            The suspects in the organization of terrorist acts must be taken alive and not otherwise. You can shout as much as you like that the dog is a dog's death, that he died like a pig, but this is the opinion of not very smart and very narcissistic individuals. Religious fanatics, Wahhabis do not think so, for them death in arms is a feat and an example for their followers. But death in prison from "apaplexic stroke" and as a result of profuse anal bleeding is a shame. And before this death, terrorists and Wahhabis must understand that reports from prison, in which they appear in "interesting poses", like the same Raduev, or simply with a doormat in their hands, do not add to their popularity and do not breed followers.
            1. Salamander
              0
              6 February 2014 21: 46
              Quote: Normal

              But death in prison from "apaplexic stroke" and as a result of profuse anal bleeding is a shame. And before this death, terrorists and Wahhabis must understand that reports from prison, in which they appear in "interesting poses", like the same Raduev, or simply with a doormat in their hands, do not add to their popularity and do not breed followers.


              Do you think everyone will find out? No, they will say: “died, under torture (necessarily), before he died he said“ kill the enemies of Islam! ”These terrorists will be living monuments, they will be prayed for laughing And after death they will be glorified in the same way as those who died as a result of a special operation. In addition, fanatics themselves will blow themselves up, increasing the losses of special forces. Well, one should not forget about the increase in losses during the capture of terrorists alive.

              So, it’s better to kill terrorists than commandos die!
              1. +2
                6 February 2014 23: 12
                Quote: Salamander
                Do you think everyone will find out?

                And what is stopping everyone from knowing this?
                Quote: Salamander
                No, they will say: "died, under torture (necessarily), before his death he said" kill the enemies of Islam! "

                Just your guess, but now they say "he did not give up and died with a weapon in his hands - he is a righteous man and a fighter for the faith, before his death he said" kill the enemies of Islam! "
                Quote: Salamander
                And after death, they will be glorified in the same way as those who died as a result of a special operation

                The lowered and the dead will not be glorified by shameful death. To degenerate bandits, to show them miserable and repentant, and not to make them an example for followers. What, for this you have to be a genius, or just do not be a fool?
                Quote: Salamander
                So, it’s better to kill terrorists than commandos die!

                An empty slogan, verbal chatter. Every scumbag killed during the CTO, according to sympathizers and followers, goes to heaven and thereby attracts new animals to the ranks of the underground gang. New thugs - new attacks - new victims, including among law enforcement officers. Is it so hard to understand?
                And it’s never too late to soak frostbitten - in prisons there are still steep iron stairs, and they do not live long with tuberculosis and are not very comfortable. When possible followers of the terrorists will know that they will not go to heaven immediately after they are discovered by the special forces, and will long and painfully die in an unheated concrete bag from tuberculosis, then those who wish will be reduced.
          2. 0
            6 February 2014 16: 13
            or maybe so? On receipt of a signal about armed people a group of detainees left (reinforced - such a region) drove up, surrounded, shouted into a megaphone, one surrendered others to the cabbage, and then it became clear who they had failed, the operas now
            failed development and 1 language, which itself (which is rare) surrendered. A low level strike? in Dagestan, the possibility of leakage is very high, and sometimes the right does not know what the left is developing, the FSB needs living detainees, security officers-living employees, after the first shot all the contacts of the group
            interrupted even before the identification of the bodies (media, bazaar telegraph, mobile communications, Internet). By the way, communication between bandit groups can be carried out through this site, my grandmother arrived ...
        5. +3
          6 February 2014 11: 34
          Quote: Asgard
          Alas, I see no such desire from "bloggers" on our website. Tomorrow you will be declared a militant and a grenade through the window. All the rest will write about what kind of parasite, it was “disguised” for so long .... his wife and his children on Taimyr (lay the asphalt in the permafrost))) .....
          Fuck us state-in? Special forces ??? special equipment?
          There is a grenade launcher, let's crumb all !!!!

          In Soviet times, I served in the first Chechen special forces. We always took militants (ALWAYS alive)), interrogated and .... destroyed (there was a war))) we had limited means and motivation in the form of cut teachers with a chainsaw and kids with open stomachs .....

          Wait an advantage in the Force, Armaments, Numerical strength, on the side of the special Forces ...
          There are not enough brains ??? either intentionally killed (rather the second))


          At least one sane in this thread. +
        6. +5
          6 February 2014 12: 07
          Quote: Asgard
          We always took (ALWAYS ALIVE)), interrogated and .... destroyed(there was a war)))


          Here THIS and there is a special operation.
          Volodya, as always, we are in the "minority".

          Well, what do people READ and don’t want to THINK? ..

          We are not against the destruction of enemies, we are for receiving INFORMATION. That without which all the following is meaningless ...

          Quote: Asgard
          There are not enough brains ??? either specifically kill (rather the second))


          I have no doubt ...
          1. +2
            6 February 2014 12: 21
            You yourself made a reservation - there was a war. At war with the methods of obtaining information do not stand on ceremony. Now it’s not a war. And the terrorists are not militants.
          2. +2
            6 February 2014 14: 56
            Quote: Z.A.M.

            Volodya, as always, we are in the "minority".

            This is the right minority, Anton. I am with you and also have no doubt
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        7. AK-47
          +3
          6 February 2014 12: 29
          Quote: Asgard
          There would be a desire to understand ....

          That's right, you need to take it alive and unwind the whole chain, kill a simple business, and if someone does not want to take risks, then he is not serving there.
      2. +2
        6 February 2014 11: 23
        Quote: Wedmak
        Evidence in the studio. Together with the confirmation of the service of these people in the FSB.

        Yes, he gave links, there is crap from an American site.
        1. +2
          6 February 2014 11: 39
          I counted on it.
          1. +3
            6 February 2014 11: 59
            Quote: Wedmak
            I counted on it.

            There is nonsense from our human rights defenders, who were worried about the Chechens during the first and second warriors. The houses were blown up by Putin’s personal order and all that. I was surprised that they didn’t hang Nord Ost on the FSB.
        2. +4
          6 February 2014 12: 18
          link to the "American" site))))
          http://rutube.ru/video/2b8d243a820344a0d4ddca20f8de14b3/
          in Ryazan there was an attempt to blow up a HOUSE with tenants on the model of explosions on Kashirsky highway, Buinaksk and Volgodonsk .....
          Quote: Wedmak
          That is, you, as a fighter (former?) Of special forces, believe everything that is on the network and so just blame "your" security forces for blowing up houses ??? Are you not ashamed to look your colleagues in the eyes?

          Well, what can I say .... among the FSB officers there are a lot of traitors .... it was they who poached the country, although they had the task of preserving the USSR ...
          They did not cope .... Wait a minute they sell furniture, cover businesses, Chechens were given crusts with "golden pistols"

          Remember what Bodrov said ...
          - "You are not my brother" ... I will tell such servicemen ....
          I did not stain my soul (for all the time)))
          1. +6
            6 February 2014 14: 11
            Quote: Asgard
            link to the "American" site))))

            Oh, how smart you are, here are your links from your remote comment that you gave ..
            Asgard RU December 30, 2013 12:52 | A new explosion occurred in Volgograd Post deleted:
            http://www.compromat.ru/page_25179.htm
            http://shiropaev.livejournal.com/128149.html

            And this is your reference to Malygin who was killed altogether, a person from Berezovsky’s circle who fled to Italy writes about how the FSB blew up houses fool
            http://avmalgin.livejournal.com/2943101.html
            These are your links Asgard, which you put out here as irrefutable evidence.
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    3. +9
      6 February 2014 10: 49
      Quote: Asgard
      Anyone whom the "authorities" suggest to shoot ???

      But nothing that they shoot employees? Or do we blame the kid for the murder of the cop, and the Wahhabi pigs — that power, how dare it? But nothing. That they refused to give up and opened fire?
      Quote: Asgard
      Let them kill everyone, how come

      Vladimir, did you get smoked there?
      1. Salamander
        +3
        6 February 2014 10: 52
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Asgard
        Let them kill everyone, how come

        Vladimir, did you get smoked there?


        An alternative story does not positively affect everyone ... crying
        1. +3
          6 February 2014 11: 17
          Quote: Salamander


          An alternative story does not have a positive effect on everyone.

          I didn’t quote the rest of the nonsense, and also didn’t comment about houses. I simply deleted the comments in FIG and that’s all. And this is not the first time unfortunately.
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      2. typhoon7
        +2
        6 February 2014 16: 08
        Alexander agrees. Moreover, who said that our special forces are going to take wahs at random? How many militants were taken across Russia, and from Volgograd, too, the train dragged on. We see only the final phase of the operation, where those who are armed and very dangerous are urinated. The FSB knows its business.
    4. viktsavenko
      +5
      6 February 2014 11: 07
      The consequence, the court is for those who stumble. And those who shoot back with weapons - destroy on the spot.
  3. Salamander
    +18
    6 February 2014 10: 18
    "+"! So two more "fighters for jihad" went to their hurias! Let the rest of the "colleagues" follow them - they themselves want it. FSB - Allah's Provider laughing
  4. +18
    6 February 2014 10: 21
    Dog, dog death!
    1. Salamander
      +13
      6 February 2014 10: 22
      Do not offend dogs. A dog is a friend of man! And these ... just kyu!
    2. FormerMariman
      -4
      6 February 2014 10: 52
      Nurlans go to action movies for money, and Ivanans for an idea! Who is more dangerous?
      1. +2
        6 February 2014 11: 06
        The Ivanes, abandoning their roots and blowing up their own people, go there too - destruction.
  5. +12
    6 February 2014 10: 21
    Why negotiation? They offered to give up, they refused, the RPG out the window and that’s it.
  6. +5
    6 February 2014 10: 26
    Batirov brothers who under pain of death agreed to deliver the terrorists Asker Samedov and Suleiman Magomedov to the city on the Volga

    Well yes! Poor, downtrodden shepherds who cut the ears of fellow tribesman Aslan on occasion! (film "War" with the participation of Alexei Chadov).
  7. +5
    6 February 2014 10: 33
    Quote: Wedmak
    Why negotiation? They offered to give up, they refused, the RPG out the window and that’s it.

    I agree to 200%! Why risk security officers ??? What to expect? Well, just one RPG shot is not enough, well, you still need a couple of. Will the house fall apart? Yes, and F.I.G. with him. Will the hosts suffer? No need to be friends with the bad guys.
    1. +2
      6 February 2014 10: 43
      Well, just one RPG shot is not enough, well, you still need a couple of.

      Well, there is little RPG, there is an RCG. A volume explosion, the house shatters into its components, and even if the walls have survived, the inside is already somehow not up to resistance.
    2. +1
      6 February 2014 15: 44
      I would least of all worry about the owners, on the contrary, so that others would not be accustomed to receive dogs.
  8. +7
    6 February 2014 10: 33
    Anyway, taking them to PLEAS means mitigating the punishment. In Russia, unfortunately, there is no death penalty, and this is unfair to the dead. For some reason, in the United States, the question is not what to do with a terrorist, definitely - the death penalty, and why Russia can not? It is necessary that the closest relatives would be punished, so that the other scum would know that his mother, father, and brother would suffer because of him.
    1. -2
      6 February 2014 10: 47
      Quote: ia-ai00
      Captive to take them - means to mitigate the punishment

      You are mistaken, death for a Muslim who died in battle with a weapon in his hands is a pass to heaven. These creatures must be taken alive and put in cages like animals.
      Quote: ia-ai00
      It is necessary that the closest relatives would be punished, so that the other scum would know that his mother, father, and brother would suffer because of him.

      Again I do not agree, and you can agree on a blood feud ...
      1. +5
        6 February 2014 10: 52
        I doubt that for these nonhumans there is a place in paradise!
        1. -6
          6 February 2014 10: 56
          Perhaps there is no paradise, what matters is what the person believes (in this case, a Muslim)
          1. +6
            6 February 2014 11: 15
            Quote: PANZER
            (in this case, a Muslim)

            They are not Muslims!
          2. viktsavenko
            +5
            6 February 2014 11: 15
            In this case, these so-called "Muslims" firmly believe in loot. The bigger, the better. They do not arrange terrorist attacks for free. It all costs money.
      2. +3
        6 February 2014 11: 08
        You are mistaken, death for a Muslim who died in battle with a weapon in his hands is a pass to heaven.

        How to explain to these "Muslims" that in battle, this does not mean "in a house surrounded by special forces" or in a forest as punishment for an organized or planned terrorist attack?
        1. -4
          6 February 2014 11: 12
          And in your understanding, probably a battle is when a regiment to a regiment or an army to an army?
          1. +3
            6 February 2014 11: 14
            Quote: PANZER
            And in your understanding, probably a battle is when a regiment to a regiment or an army to an army?

            Are you a Wahhabi?
            1. -3
              6 February 2014 11: 25
              Why this question?
              1. +1
                6 February 2014 11: 29
                Quote: PANZER
                Why this question?

                So yes or no?
                1. +2
                  6 February 2014 12: 01
                  Judging by your minus, I hit the mark.
                  1. -3
                    6 February 2014 12: 05
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Judging by your minus, I hit the mark.

                    Do not flatter yourself a troll)))
          2. +2
            6 February 2014 11: 42
            In my understanding, a bandit is not a warrior, and a shooting bandit in a house is not a fight. A gangster who was killed during a special operation as having rendered armed resistance to security forces.
            1. 0
              6 February 2014 11: 53
              Again, this is in your understanding .. but not in the understanding of the one who gave him the weapon and inspired him, that he is a warrior.
              1. +1
                6 February 2014 12: 14
                and not in the understanding of the one who gave him weapons and inspired him, that he is a warrior.

                This is his problems. You just do not need to publicize them and call them fighters with the regime.
                1. -3
                  6 February 2014 12: 19
                  Come on, accuse me of PR)))) (I'm already rolling on the floor laughing)
                  PEOPLE READ OUT ALREADY THAT YOU HAVE OBSTATIOUS INSTEAD OF BRAIN ??????
                  1. +2
                    6 February 2014 12: 32
                    What are you trying to prove? No one is against getting information. But, you were not in the wrong place, and you cannot know how the situation developed.
                    1. +1
                      6 February 2014 15: 54
                      Quote: Wedmak
                      What are you trying to prove? No one is against getting information. But, you were not in the wrong place, and you cannot know how the situation developed.

                      You are trying to prove that you are wrong. How did the situation develop? Yes, just like in a hundred cases before that. It is not the first year that the special services have been operating according to the same scenario. Then we are announced about the next liquidation so from year to year, and the Wahhabis and terrorist attacks do not become less. Why? Due to the fact that this tactic of combating terrorists, Wahhabis and bandits in the Caucasus is NOT EFFECTIVE. Moreover, it is harmful because information carriers are destroyed, bandits turn into heroes for their followers and sympathizers, and the authorities have the opportunity to write off any unsolved cases into troupes.
                      Do you understand? Destruction of bandits on the spot is beneficial to everyone. Wahhabis on this example recruit supporters, intelligence agencies report on the next liquidation, those who are supposed to look for reasons and fight the consequences are messing around on their salaries. Everything is in business, but it is not - terrorist activity in the Caucasus is not weakening. Stormy activity and unsatisfactory result. Someone is very profitable.
                      1. +1
                        7 February 2014 06: 14
                        Quote: Normal
                        Normal (3) Yesterday, 15:54 p.m. ↑
                        Quote: Wedmak
                        What are you trying to prove? No one is against getting information. But, you were not in the wrong place, and you cannot know how the situation developed.
                        You are trying to prove that you are wrong. How did the situation develop? Yes, just like in a hundred cases before that. It is not the first year that the special services have been operating according to the same scenario. Then we are announced about the next liquidation so from year to year, and the Wahhabis and terrorist attacks do not become less. Why? Due to the fact that this tactic of combating terrorists, Wahhabis and bandits in the Caucasus is NOT EFFECTIVE. Moreover, it is harmful because information carriers are destroyed, bandits turn into heroes for their followers and sympathizers, and the authorities have the opportunity to write off any unsolved cases into troupes.
                        Do you understand? Destruction of bandits on the spot is beneficial to everyone. Wahhabis on this example recruit supporters, intelligence agencies report on the next liquidation, those who are supposed to look for reasons and fight the consequences are messing around on their salaries. Everything is in business, but it is not - terrorist activity in the Caucasus is not weakening. Stormy activity and unsatisfactory result. Someone is very profitable.

                        Plus, only the sense of your efforts (as Asgard, Z.A.M., who was banned by the way yesterday, I think, after talking in this thread), the overwhelming majority in this thread does not see beyond his nose in front of the monitor. Uraaaaaaa, another militant eliminated ... and dance, kiss each other passionately. Some emotions, all to blame, sew up in the shoes, look like in the USA and Israel .... I am glad that there are (not many of course) sane people on the site. soldier
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                    1. -2
                      6 February 2014 13: 26
                      Quote: Z.A.M.
                      For interest, look at the NUMBER of comments per day

                      What can I say, our service is both dangerous and difficult laughing
          3. +2
            6 February 2014 11: 51
            And in your understanding, probably a battle is when a regiment to a regiment or an army to an army?

            Well, not when women and children are killed with an explosive belt !!!
            1. 0
              6 February 2014 12: 01
              Quote: alex-s
              Well, not when women and children are killed with an explosive belt !!!

              You probably don’t know that we’re not talking about martyrs ???
      3. viktsavenko
        +4
        6 February 2014 11: 13
        I agree about Muslims. This was the case in Afghanistan. But there the "spirits", after all, fought for their land. And what kind of Muslims are these? For such "Muslims" pass to paradise should be given out of turn. As John Vasilyevich said: "Let them fly!"
      4. +2
        6 February 2014 12: 02
        not special, but I think if the bandits are sitting in the room to start some gas or a mini volumetric explosion that would be shell-shocking and then taken alive (not necessarily intact). Likely now there are medications, etc. drugs that talk gangster (it is important to know accomplices-communications-financing-supply). Then the court and the tower and a little look back at Europe is a war, and European laws for peacetime and civilians. And so the endless war of these emirs how many were killed and there are more and more of them. Of course the specialists in the place know better, but they figured out and simply killed without gutting the information in my opinion is not very correct.
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  9. +12
    6 February 2014 10: 46
    Vakha and Ahmed are sitting in ambush in the mountains. Ahmed asks: "Waha, are we hobbits now?" "You are a ram! Not hobbits, but Wahhabis !!!"
    1. Salamander
      +15
      6 February 2014 10: 57
      - Why are the Mujahideen not riding pigs?
      - The Qur'an forbids eating their own kind.
      - What is "Russism"?
      - The invention of Chechens suffering from Buddhism.
      - Why are Chechen bandits still not destroyed?
      “They are hiding in the mountains, where aviation and artillery are ineffective, and the infantry cannot come close to them because of the monstrous stench: Mujahideen never wash themselves and always put them on their pants, having hardly seen the federal troops.”
      - Why are there so many suicide bombers among Chechen Mujahideen?
      - They are afraid to stay under Sharia in case of a possible victory.
      - When will Russia win in Chechnya?
      - When the Russian snipers stop shooting the Chechens in the head: a bullet wound to the head does them no harm due to the lack of a brain.

      China, in connection with the events of September 11, decided to allocate the United States as humanitarian aid 1 billion. The Chinese.

      TV presenter Larry King - President Bush:
      - Mr. President, what happened to the two towers of the World Trade Center?
      Bush with a slight mysterious smile:
      - They fell.

      From the news release:
      "... For the fourth day now, unknown persons have seized the distillery. Until now, the terrorists cannot formulate their demands."

      Who are you, with terrorists or with us? - the USA menacingly asked.
      - How much will you give? - asked again from Pakistan.
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    3. +6
      6 February 2014 11: 09
      Then the C-8 flies in and both hobbits are carried away along different paths into the distance.
  10. +4
    6 February 2014 11: 01
    Quote: PANZER
    Why not take alive?

    Of course, I understand that once again nobody wants to risk the lives of employees, but if they took them alive, how much information could be beaten out of them, especially about the upcoming terrorist attacks and their performers, and this could save many lives! That we do not have special means by which they can be taken live without risk? And who says that then they can’t be sentenced to death, it’s quite possible! only that more red tape, and Putin in this case will not refuse negative
    1. -3
      6 February 2014 11: 09
      But they didn’t even try to dislodge information
      1. +5
        6 February 2014 11: 30
        Well, just probably already have information. Or maybe specialists try to take this option alive, shed blood and he doesn’t know a damn! (As they say the goal does not justify the means request )
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      3. +1
        6 February 2014 11: 31
        You’re either stupid or pretending to be.
    2. +2
      6 February 2014 11: 30
      Duc may have taken, knocked out, and then fired a bullet in the forehead. Actually, this is not an excluded option. But the media and hamsters do not need to know about this, otherwise Greenpeace will complain about the rough treatment of animals.
    3. +2
      6 February 2014 11: 32
      Quote: Andrew Peter
      but if they took it alive, how much information could be beaten out of them, especially about the upcoming terrorist attacks and their performers,

      Zero, some are taken alive, but the maxim is that they can tell this about their group.
    4. +5
      6 February 2014 11: 53
      Quote: Andrey Peter
      Of course, I understand that once again nobody wants to risk the lives of employees, but if they took it alive, how much information could one could beat out of them,

      Quote: PANZER
      But they didn’t even try to dislodge information


      But what happens to you, people do it!? Don't you understand that communication means, credit cards, weapons, SIM cards, SMS, bank transfers will say much more than a terrorist himself! A terrorist he is a performer and not a strategist! And not a single terrorist will tell you that he will do it in a week! They are used in the dark! Who gives him the money he doesn’t even know! And not just one reptile of the life of an FSB soldier is not worth it!
      The moratorium on the death penalty has not been lifted and it will not be canceled in the near future! To amuse yourself with the hope that they caught one brat and pulled the whole chain, it is naive! They work in small groups and this is the greatest difficulty! The United States and the Tsar brothers looked pubescent into the water, from the president to the pentagon, one bleating about freedoms and the threat of terrorism! And they, with all their polluted wiretapping, got into a puddle! This is how difficult it is to fight small groups! dead end!!!
    5. +1
      6 February 2014 16: 04
      IMHO, different people are engaged in the destruction of militants and in the extraction of information, and if an order for destruction is issued, then people who gave the order for liquidation should know whether it is possible to obtain from the Ulyudoks or not. This is ideal, of course.
  11. +9
    6 February 2014 11: 29
    PANZER SU C
    And in your understanding, probably a battle is when a regiment to a regiment or an army to an army?


    And do you think people at the station or on the bus - warriors, enemies, which need destroy?
  12. +5
    6 February 2014 11: 37
    heaped up a ghoul - fine. it is also necessary to stake in a rotten heart and sprinkle some saint with water, so as not to get up.
  13. +6
    6 February 2014 11: 47
    Two bombs blew up in Volgograd, the people demanded revenge.
    Order completed.
    And to understand: "those were filled up - not those, are there still?" - what for?

    Retribution must be swift and inevitable.
    Everyone is happy, a sense of justice restored.

    But I still think that quick death is too easy for them, by and large for patients with Wahhabism this is a great grace, it would be necessary to torment and treat them so that they would not die quickly.
    1. -1
      6 February 2014 11: 55
      Quote: brainkiller
      Two bombs blew up in Volgograd, the people demanded revenge.
      Order completed.
      And to understand: "those were filled up - not those, are there still?" - what for?

      Plus, this calculation is just for those who are higher in this thread minus, not thinking about the essence)))
    2. +2
      6 February 2014 12: 03
      Quote: brainkiller
      And to understand: "those were filled up - not those, are there still?" - what for?

      This can be written only by a person who does not represent the work of special services at all.
      1. -3
        6 February 2014 12: 13
        And you seem to be a retired moderator, colonel of the FSB))))) Have you ever served in the army?
        1. +1
          6 February 2014 12: 27
          Quote: PANZER
          Have you ever served in the army?

          Not in the army. I served in the navy.
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  14. +4
    6 February 2014 12: 17
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    This can be written only by a person who does not represent the work of special services at all.
    switching to personalities is the best counterargument, yes. smile

    but even if I were a specialist you would still not listen, as is the case with Asgard’s comment
    In Soviet times, I served in the first Chechen special forces. We always took militants (ALWAYS alive)), interrogated and .... destroyed (there was a war))) we had limited means and motivation in the form of cut teachers with a chainsaw and kids with open stomachs .....

    Wait an advantage in the Force, Armaments, Numerical strength, on the side of the special Forces ...
    There are not enough brains ??? either intentionally killed (rather the second))
    what did you parry? "there was no union then?" =))) bggg very worthy - yes. For a troll.
    1. +3
      6 February 2014 12: 26
      Quote: brainkiller
      switching to personalities is the best counterargument, yes.

      Why on the person, I didn’t be rude to you, but the essence of your comment is in that. And not only I mean you, but anyone else who writes like that.
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  15. 0
    6 February 2014 12: 32
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Why on the person, I did not rude you,

    let's just say that if you were right even a bit, it would not hurt me.
    1. 0
      6 February 2014 16: 45
      Quote: brainkiller
      if you were right even a bit, it would not hurt me.

      Are you hurt by disagreeing with someone? Hmm, well, I will not give you advice, I am special in such matters.
  16. +2
    6 February 2014 12: 54
    Who doubts that terrorists need to be destroyed is a step forward! ..
  17. AK-47
    -2
    6 February 2014 13: 01
    In a special operation in the city of Izberbash on Wednesday morning, one of the private houses with militants was blocked. They refused to lay down their arms and opened fire. Later it turned out that in an exchange of fire, the amir of the Kadar bandit group Jamaldin Mirzaev was destroyed.
    There is nothing to rejoice at: accidentally ran into "militants", a shootout began, then it turned out .... Where is the work of special services, surveillance, implementation, quiet detention, obtaining information.
    Puncture this, they are purposeful, and we randomly.
    1. +3
      6 February 2014 13: 11
      Where is the word "random" in the message? Or do you mean to say that a random house, blocked by accident ... OP !! And there were militants!
      1. AK-47
        0
        6 February 2014 13: 30
        Quote: Wedmak
        Where is the word "random" in the message?

        There is no pattern here. Someone saw, reported, decided to check and unexpected luck.
        1. +2
          6 February 2014 13: 46
          There is no pattern here.

          Excuse me, are you at the FSB headquarters? Or are you an FSB operative? Or how? Where are such conclusions from?
          1. AK-47
            +1
            6 February 2014 14: 27
            Quote: Wedmak
            Where are such conclusions from?
            Exceptionally logical way. To open fire in the city, and even using grenades, this is your way naturally.
          2. +1
            6 February 2014 14: 39
            Quote: Wedmak
            Where are such conclusions from?

            Probably from violent imagination.
  18. +3
    6 February 2014 13: 14
    The news constantly shows how, before the assault, the militants are persuaded to let women and children go.
    How do they do next? Moms go to death row, and children grow up for the time being?
    1. +1
      6 February 2014 13: 47
      How do they do next? Moms go to death row, and children grow up for the time being?

      It is necessary to immediately monitor them and all. It is not known how many of these widows went to shahidki with trashy brains.
      1. +1
        6 February 2014 16: 36
        It’s not a lot of trouble to establish surveillance, it’s easier at once there is no person at all, there’s no problem, because if a wife, girlfriend, relative probably knew what the militants were doing, she didn’t go to the FSB and didn’t lay it means she’s guilty, so watch over her, or soak her with everyone, or plant if she accidentally remained alive, because the militants do not spare our women and children, so when they start to soak at the root regardless of the geyropa, then maybe some people will think to go terrorists or not, and even if at least one of these actions stops, the sheepskin is worth the candle.
  19. +2
    6 February 2014 13: 15
    This is evident from the sensation caused by reading the article.
    And the feeling is that the presence of a leader in the gang involved in the Volgograd bombings became known only after the destruction of the group.
    I do not want to question prof. the cleanliness of our specialists, but nevertheless either the journalist messed up or the ORM algorithm is violated somewhere

    This is what "it turned out later" in the text of the article freezes.
    1. 0
      6 February 2014 13: 49
      And the feeling is that the presence of a leader in the gang involved in the Volgograd bombings became known only after the destruction of the group.

      Well, they, as it were, before the commandos did not settle in order and did not show their passports. Although, on the other hand, if surveillance was carried out, they should have known who was sitting there and how many of them.
  20. pawel57
    +2
    6 February 2014 13: 27
    It is impossible to dump everything on faith and on Wahhabism. Our (or rather the Russian Federation) state abandoned ideology, a holy place does not exist and religion and perversions began to take its place as a substitute for ideology with primitivism. You can not discount the mentality of the people. Caucasians lived for thousands of years in a raid and were annexed to Russia by force of arms, and in the absence of the Stalinist program to educate a new man, replacing Yeltsin's Russian. nothing good happened. They say to the Caucasus since childhood that their tribe is the best, to deceive and destroy enemies, another belief is a sin, to kill for the sake of revenge is noble. The enemies are certainly Russian. Living in large families, they are accustomed to live in a team and communicate with people. The Russians, having suffered heavy losses in WWII men, began to raise their children as single mothers who raised mostly kind, tolerant, tolerant people of other faiths and peoples. Living in small families, they cannot fight for themselves in a team. For Russians and the Caucasus, the concept is good and badly different, Russians lose in life. The Caucasus felt our weakness and immediately raised their heads. Now our specialists in the Caucasus are putting in place the most presumptuous and insolent representatives of the Caucasus. It is not necessary to feel sorry for them and it is not necessary to take prisoners, if they refuse to surrender, they must take care of their people. Forced captivity and imprisonment will be regarded as weakness and provoke resistance, and so on in their own terms. For the sake of information, it is debatable for money, out of revenge, out of envy, they surrender each other anyway. After all, the specialists did not come from scratch and there are results. To the credit of the Caucasus, it should be noted that, considering themselves right, they are not afraid of death knowing that after refusing to surrender they should not be alive. After all, they, too, do not spare either women or children, and they die for it. It’s good for them that they are being shot, they were hanged in the old days.
  21. +9
    6 February 2014 13: 35
    "In Dagestan, the leader of militants allegedly involved in the terrorist attacks in Volgograd was destroyed" ......
    Nonsense! this is not the leader of the militants, but the six switchman ... leaders are sitting in Saudi Arabia, London and in many other places known to the special services. they killed the artist, the hired killer, and the customers both sat in chocolate and still sit. I am ashamed!
  22. +6
    6 February 2014 14: 13
    Do not forget about the existence of the Prosecutor’s Office of the Russian Federation! There is still an article on abuse of official authority with aggravating !!! Therefore, everything is correct !!! They warned! Hear !! They refused !!! Everyone who didn’t hide the special forces is not to blame !!! angry
  23. +4
    6 February 2014 14: 51
    HOW THE GAMBIT IS NOT FILLED IN, SO A GLOSSARY. THEY HAVE ALL THE GLOSSARY THAT. NO SERIES.
    1. +5
      6 February 2014 14: 52
      Features of the Caucasus, there that is not a peasant laughing
    2. +2
      6 February 2014 15: 27
      Does this give you any thoughts?
  24. Mike Wazowski
    +5
    6 February 2014 15: 23
    What happened is an exemplary execution of one of the leaders of one of the many gang cells.
    It's funny to hear about militants as a valuable source of operational information. In the confrontation in the Caucasus, the Wahhabis, the local population, the special services, lose primarily to the civilian population. At any time, your or a neighbor's house can be surrounded by special equipment with special children and turned into a pile of destructed building materials. The video is complete on the network under the links "CTO" and "special operation". The Wahhabis benefit primarily from the civilian population, destroying the institution of the family, which is traditionally very strong in the Caucasus. And in addition, after the destruction of one of the militants, they automatically receive new recruits to their ranks (bloodlines).
    Crazy, offering to exterminate everyone without discrimination (trial and investigation), who had weapons and Islamic literature, and their families on Taimyr or Magadan, GET TREATMENT !!! You condemn brainwashed people blowing up peaceful, innocent people at train stations, trolleybuses, subways and immediately propose to exile (punish) innocent people, although they are related to militants. One very well-known state also does not need much evidence (it will be necessary - it will fabricate). The notorious "what is the strength of a brother" does not work, because the TRUTH is different for everyone, but where is the TRUTH?
    1. pawel57
      +1
      6 February 2014 16: 07
      Let's send fighters after the next explosion in the Russian city to the resort. We will treat them on the waters of Wahhabism. And why kind Russian do not have the right to ask for their deaths. Why do you care so much for the Caucasians and are so dismissive of the Russians. We also have the right to self-defense and demand from the presumptuous Caucasus. Since you are so kind, why more than 12 thousand Chechens fight in a foreign country and shoot and cut their heads in a foreign Syria and the government with the Russian hero Kadyrov does not persecute the returnees. And why does Kadyr brazenly declare that he killed the first Russian at the age of 16 and he is not being imprisoned? Why are there double standards for the Russian people? I think to destroy the militants at the location together with their wives and children. They do not stand on ceremony blowing up a bus destroying from small to large and do not take women and children out of it. To deprive close relatives of gangsters of pensions of benefits, work and promotion to the state. service. If necessary, take their relatives hostage. Stop talking. the guys are doing the right thing to finish them there on the spot.
      1. Mike Wazowski
        +2
        6 February 2014 17: 49
        ("I think to destroy the militants at the location together with their wives and children"). This is how fascism begins, and you call for the murder of women and children. At least everything is in order with your head.
        I don’t care about Caucasians, apply everything you said to yourself, replacing Russian with Chechen (Caucasian). And imagine (as it is not utopian) what will happen when someone like Kadyrov comes to power in the Kremlin.
        Everything can be turned upside down, look around. The words are different, only the methods are the same.
        I do not call for tolerance in relation to criminals, not at all. Commit a crime - get the inevitable punishment. Only here is the guarantee that instead of a conditional terrorist fighter, they did not shoot an ordinary criminal. It’s difficult to surprise anyone with a gun in the Caucasus. And then notice how stubbornly these guys resist. But there is no method against scrap (special forces).
        And I would like to add that terror has no nationality and a human face, terrorism is a stealth war.
        1. pawel57
          +1
          6 February 2014 19: 16
          Yes, from liberals like you, fascism is born. You surrendered to Czechoslovakia to Hitler, set Poland against Russia, immediately after the victory unleashed the Cold War, sponsored and hid Chechen beasts. They themselves did not hesitate to sweep away German and Japanese cities, to throw atomic bombs at the Second World War cities with the entire population. Fly on drones and beat defenseless people, representing the world as a fight against terrorism, by opening secret prisons. Why are you democrats, and we are fascists. We fight for ourselves, and if the enemy destroying us at a time for 30-40 people, incl. infants and the elderly why should stand on ceremony with their relatives. Moreover, they have a gangster tribal mutual responsibility. Let their relatives be responsible. Where are you so quick from? Something your Americans immediately ended the Chechen in Boston and a friend put in jail for life. You can and we must endure? No sweetheart.
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        3. 0
          6 February 2014 19: 27
          All right........ Committed a crime - get the inevitable punishment. Only here is the guarantee ............. Is it five or ten years in prison for dozens of lives? And then even the relatives will buy it out or will it be released under the amnesty? Yes? ............................. What do we have in the states with terrorists, etc. do? Stool or injection without talking! In "democratic" Israel, terrorists are sewn into pig skins and buried, and houses are bulldozed. Death to the dog! This is not a war with the Geneva Conventions, this is a struggle for the survival of the nation! When we burn out this trash with a red-hot iron we will talk about democracy. .......................... Yes, and change your nickname pliz, otherwise it smells like a troll!
  25. +2
    6 February 2014 15: 28
    Whoever says or writes the tactics of destroying militants on the spot is bearing fruit! The death penalty has been abolished .. and there is no point in risking the lives of special forces.! If they were approached, then someone brought them if they destroyed them, then how languages ​​they are not needed .. (and those who are of interest to those simply lead, wiretap, find out the contacts, contacts .. convert, etc.) And I consider rolling a barrel to the special services provocations and sabotage .. Guys work normally! "There is a hunt for wolves, a hunt is in progress ..!" (V. Vysotsky)
  26. +1
    6 February 2014 18: 25
    Kill them like mad animals, don’t give corpses to relatives, take them to cattle burial grounds! And to judge relatives as accomplices !!!
  27. Leshka
    0
    6 February 2014 19: 08
    there is justice in the world
  28. waisson
    0
    6 February 2014 19: 09
    jackal jackal death
  29. 0
    6 February 2014 19: 29
    That's what not to do, if only sheep do not fall ... Shepherds in a word
  30. kelevra
    0
    6 February 2014 22: 49
    It is necessary to bring merciless punishment and cruel death to such dogs!
  31. 0
    6 February 2014 23: 47
    When will Allah take these all the bandits.
  32. 0
    7 February 2014 03: 36
    I recall how our objective CT in the first days after the explosions squealed about the involvement of persons of Slavic appearance. ki.