New injection device allows you to tighten the bullet wound in 15 seconds

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New injection device allows you to tighten the bullet wound in 15 seconds

The company RevMedx, which develops products for military doctors and ambulance services, has created a device that can stop bleeding from a bullet wound in 15 seconds. The device was named XStat, and its creators hope that the US Drug and Nutrition Control Commission will approve it for use by medical professionals.

XStat consists of an applicator filled with dozens of tiny sponges that absorb blood when the device is inserted into an open wound. Of course, this filler will not be just lost somewhere inside the body. Each of the sponges is marked with a radiopaque mark, so that the absorbent will be visible on the x-ray when the injured person reaches the hospital.

At the moment, military and civilian doctors are using ordinary gauze to stop bleeding. The doctor has to inject this coarse material into the wound cavity, sometimes to a depth of 12 centimeters, in order to stop the bleeding from the artery. This process not only causes severe pain, but does not always work - if the bleeding does not stop after three minutes, the doctor will have to remove the gauze from the wound and introduce a new one.

The RevMedx team has already received $ 5 million from the US Army to complete work on the product. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation also issued a grant to the company to develop a version of XStat designed to stop postpartum hemorrhage.
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  1. +6
    5 February 2014 10: 05
    From the US Army, received funding ...
    Bastards want to live ...
    And hundreds of thousands of ruined souls are not even remembered, hypocrites.
    So, to combat Korean missiles, we need to order special bullets so that it turns so that it makes no sense to clog the wound, so that it wanders or crashes inside, making a loop, leaving 2 wounds.
    1. +20
      5 February 2014 10: 33
      very angry comment... explosive bullets are forbidden back in World War I, with a shifted center of gravity, too, in my opinion, are not welcome ... a very necessary and extremely useful product not only for the needs of the army, but also in the liquidation of disasters (again
      The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation gave the company a grant to develop a version of XStat designed to stop postpartum hemorrhage.
      ) ....... the money invested in it turned out to be much more useful than billions of investments in the development of high-precision and extremely painful means of destroying their own kind
      1. +4
        5 February 2014 10: 36
        Quote: strannik595
        very evil written ......

        Do you feel sympathy for the us army?

        Quote: strannik595
        very necessary and extremely useful product

        I did not say a word that this is not necessary or not important.
        Of course it is important!
        1. +3
          5 February 2014 10: 49
          I didn’t like this:
          special bullets, so that it turns so that it makes no sense to clog the wound, so that it wanders or crashes inside, making a loop, leaving 2 wounds
          ..then let the bullet wind the guts around the neck of the American infantryman and slowly strangle him with the soundtrack "death to America !!!" laughing why so much anger? your wife said yesterday "I don't want to, my head hurts"?
          1. +8
            5 February 2014 11: 51
            Quote: strannik595
            my wife said yesterday "I don't want to, my head hurts

            the transition to personality means that you are chm.o and so fend off with a malicious smile on his face only such a person can.
            about anger - it is not there, and why did you get the idea that I'm angry? not at all - I just wish them to be in the role of the same Syrians, for the suffering they brought to humanity and my homeland in particular.
            1. +1
              5 February 2014 23: 12
              what do you ch.m.o
              ..You told the truth, I’m even worse, to you + ....... but I said without malice, sorry if I offended by accident
        2. 0
          5 February 2014 12: 56
          Quote: afire
          Do you feel sympathy for the us army?

          To Rome, it may not, but to their desire to save a soldier's life - definitely YES
          1. 0
            5 February 2014 21: 10
            Quote: atalef
            but to their desire to save a soldier's life - definitely YES

            Again, the idea is good, but there is almost no information.
            And how long will this granular porridge keep the wound from blood loss or gangrene does not come from the fact that a possible infection with fragments or a bullet is clogged inside? Again, how much this material is hypoallergenic ........... damn, questions, questions, polls .........
      2. 0
        5 February 2014 10: 43
        Quote: strannik595
        . a very necessary and extremely useful product n

        The product, with bullet wounds, is absolutely useless.
        ... will only help; for superficial shrapnel wounds, wounds, tangent wounds.
        But an individual package and a cotton gauze dressing are much more reliable.
        1. +4
          5 February 2014 10: 49
          “The doctor has to inject this rough material into the wound cavity, sometimes up to 12 centimeters deep, to stop the bleeding from the artery. This process not only causes severe pain, but also does not always work - if the bleeding does not stop after three minutes, the doctor will have to remove the gauze out of the wound and introduce a new one. " - is it more reliable in your opinion ??
          1. +15
            5 February 2014 11: 27
            Quote: Dangerous
            to stop bleeding from an artery.

            From an artery that is 0,2 ... 0.5 mm in diameter, this is impossible .. Only for venous bleeding.
            In the USSR, back in the 80s, the <<< HEMOSTATIC SPONGE >>> was INVENTED. By crushing it and filling it in a disposable syringe. We will get the same effect as from the use of an expensive XStat.
            Arterial bleeding can only be stopped after flashing and ligation of the vessel. laughing
            A cotton-gauze bandage promedol and on a turntable.
            1. -4
              5 February 2014 11: 56
              Quote: cosmos111
              In the USSR, back in the 80s, the <<< HEMOSTATIC SPONGE >>> was INVENTED. By crushing it and filling it in a disposable syringe. We will get the same effect as from the use of an expensive XStat.

              Tampons and pads for women are also not needed. Russian women from time immemorial used cotton and rags. good
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        3. +4
          5 February 2014 11: 42
          In life, most non-fatal injuries are from splinters. In cinema, the opposite is clear. In any case, the wound canal quickly closed with sterile material is a plus to the chances of survival, at least from the point of view of getting into the wound of infections.
      3. +8
        5 February 2014 11: 06
        In principle, an interesting invention. And most importantly necessary. Ours would also admonish in this direction. Such tampons will save many lives.
        I just wish we were ahead, not them.
        1. 0
          5 February 2014 18: 56
          Bottles of the good old BF2 in addition to individual packages.
          He poured it on the bag and pressed it to the wound.
          Just to make it quicker - three to four minutes very long.
      4. +10
        5 February 2014 12: 43
        Explosive bullets prohibited?) Actually not. If you read the Geneva Convention, you will find that explosive bullets are forbidden for use against manpower the enemy. That is, you can take them into battle, and there, as in the laws of Manu - do not hit the pedestrian, standing on a chariot laughing
        By the way, the Geneva Convention prohibits the use of military aircraft laughing

        And finally, seriously. The Americans in Vietnam used napalm (prohibited by convention), chemical weapons (not VX, of course, but still 77 million liters of defoliants. The poison was sprayed to 14% of the country, because, they say, the vegetation interfered with observing the movements of the enemy fellow ) Do not forget the atrocities of soldiers, and without explosive bullets destroying an unwanted population (approx. - Songmi. Everything, like white people, with torture and gang rape).

        Let us also recall the attitude of Americans towards democratic values ​​(freedom of choice, the right to life, the right to independence, for example), and then look at Wikipedia, in the article "List of US military operations." You can see that in terms of arrogance and aggressive foreign policy next to the United States, the USSR somehow even looks uncertain. I bet few knew how many times the US bombed its victims with democracy.

        If after that they tell me that I should feel sorry for the mattresses and appreciate their humanism and care for their neighbors, I will send a hidden path to Holland.
        1. +1
          5 February 2014 14: 58
          Quote: SkiF_RnD
          You may notice that in terms of arrogance and aggressive foreign policy, the USSR looks somewhat uncertain next to the USA.

          In general, in this regard, it is even indecent to compare the USA and the USSR, to put it mildly. It was in the 80s, especially in the 90s, the fifth column brainwashed fragile souls about the "USSR - an evil empire."
          Quote: SkiF_RnD
          Americans in Vietnam used ...
          The protocols of the Geneva Convention, developed after the Second World War, the Americans did not even ratify, as far as I remember, perhaps lagged behind life.
    2. +10
      5 February 2014 10: 39
      But where are they bastards or not? This article is not about that! For example, I would only be glad if something like this appeared in our army, and just in "civil" medical care
      1. +4
        5 February 2014 11: 15
        Quote: Dangerous
        But where are they bastards or not? This article is not about that! For example, I would only be glad if something like this appeared in our army, and just in "civil" medical care

        Appear, this is not a nuclear bomb - it will be sold around the world and without restrictions, and the production license is unlikely to reach an astronomical price request
      2. 0
        5 February 2014 15: 04
        Quote: Dangerous
        For example, I would only be glad if something like this appeared in our army ...

        I would have been more pleased with the quality selection and training of our doctors, both military and civilian, and the complete equipping of our medicine with everything necessary to provide medical care from at least already known means. Somehow little joy from our medicine so far.
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    4. vkrav
      +4
      5 February 2014 11: 19
      After a good shooter, the doctor has nothing to do! (Excluding the path. Anatomist). Learn to shoot, and you do not think of atrocities.
      1. +1
        5 February 2014 11: 27
        Quote: vkrav
        After a good shooter, the doctor has nothing to do

        Oh, oh ... Ammunition consumption for one lethal outcome is such that you can live on the color day ... and live well ...
    5. +1
      5 February 2014 11: 19
      Quote: afire
      From the US Army, received funding ...
      Bastards want to live ...

      Well, this is understandable, you have a total hatred of US citizens ...
      Quote: afire
      And hundreds of thousands of ruined souls are not even remembered, hypocrites.

      Do you believe that this drug will have limited use only for the treatment of US citizens? At the expense of thousands of ruined souls. This drug will somehow not help them, for they have already been ruined ...
      Quote: afire
      So, for our fight against Korean missiles, we need to order special bullets so that it turns around so that it makes no sense to clog the wound

      It seems that your mind has fallen into complete prostration because this drug is intended for treating people, Korean (by the way, why Korean?) Missiles cannot bleed ... You like the United States hate, but want to seriously injure Korean missiles, it sounds pretty strange ...
      1. 0
        5 February 2014 12: 06
        before you start writing your "conclusions", you will learn to think broadly, and not straightforward.
        I did not write about hatred of US citizens, only the army.
        About Korean missiles and democracy’s media are written here almost every day, you probably don’t fully understand the essence of these articles.
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    7. +1
      5 February 2014 12: 54
      Quote: afire
      From the US Army, received funding ... Bastards want to live

      They want to save the lives of soldiers, you wanted to say
      Quote: afire
      And they don’t even remember hundreds of thousands of ruined souls, hypocrites

      Some stupidity, at the level of baby talk - sorry. The army exists for that purpose, including killing
      Quote: afire
      so that she wandered or flew inside, making a loop, leaving 2 wounds.

      And if such a bullet hits a Russian soldier - out of old habit with cotton and gauze .....
      1. +4
        5 February 2014 16: 05
        Quote: atalef
        They want to save the lives of soldiers, you wanted to say

        Not to save the lives of soldiers, but to save grandmothers who will be lost in the event of his death or disability after paying insurance and a life-long pension to the family. And similar applicators with selox have been used for about 5 years as used in disaster medicine and army medicine chests. Such tools have been developed with enough different names.


        But unfortunately it helps only in 2 cases out of 10. Checked personally! And they have some undocumented properties, for example, the same selox in many people causes severe allergies, up to anaphylactic shock.



        And this is a Soviet drug, has a similar effect with Selox. But I will add from myself with extensive arterial bleeding all these hemostasis are useless, only a tourniquet.
        1. 0
          5 February 2014 16: 10
          And on what wounds did selox use and in what form?
          1. +4
            5 February 2014 16: 24
            1. Shrapnel wound of the foot with rupture of the calf muscle and damage to small vessels, Selox in granules of 2 ounces. It helped.
            2. Bullet wound to the forearm with damage to the deep vein. The applicator, a large bandage with Selox did not help, only a tourniquet. Well, a few more cases.
            1. +1
              5 February 2014 16: 43
              And here is a miracle called Statin. What is it? Worse than Selox?
              1. +1
                5 February 2014 16: 52
                Quote: leon-iv
                And here is a miracle called Statin. What is it? Worse than Selox?

                This powder is over 20 years old.
                STATIN is a hemostatic powder that stops capillary bleeding at the time of application, and moderate bleeding for 8-10 seconds. It forms a gentle gel-like layer on the surface of the wound, which reliefly covers the affected tissue of any configuration. The gel-like coating provides good water and gas exchange in the wound, painless dressings, prevents adhesions.

                Due to its ability to dissolve, STATIN can be used in operations on internal organs. STATIN provides a good cosmetic effect, does not leave scars. STATIN is used to treat bleeding wounds, burns after removal of necrotic tissue, donor wounds with dermoplasty, during operations on parenchymal organs, operations to remove tonsils, adenoids, etc., as well as in dentistry.

                STATIN is also used to treat the skin around the stoma. In case of irritation or microcracks on the skin around the stoma, it is treated with STATIN at a time when the patient does not use a colostomy bag and leave it on the skin for as long as possible. STATIN must be removed before use.


                Almost the same selox in action, only without allergies. Rumors creep that the drug has been finalized and it will soon be on sale. They claim effectiveness 3-4 times more.
                1. +1
                  5 February 2014 20: 50
                  XStat introduced a modified syringe that injects specially coated sponges into wounds, causing vascular coagulation, and closes the wound surface.
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        2. +1
          5 February 2014 16: 12
          Quote: Timeout
          Not to save the lives of soldiers, but to save grandmothers who will be lost in the event of his death or disability after paying insurance and a life-long pension to the family.

          And what difference does it make them save a soldier?
          Or based on your comment - dough sea - let the soldiers die - is this normal?
          Quote: Timeout
          And similar applicators with Selox have been used for years in disaster medicine and army medicine chests.

          So its effectiveness is negligible.
          Do you understand what it means to stop bleeding in 15 seconds? This means saved hundreds or 1000 soldiers (and then when it enters the civilian market) and civilian lives.
        3. +1
          5 February 2014 16: 12
          Quote: Timeout
          Not to save the lives of soldiers, but to save grandmothers who will be lost in the event of his death or disability after paying insurance and a life-long pension to the family.

          And what difference does it make them save a soldier?
          Or based on your comment - dough sea - let the soldiers die - is this normal?
          Quote: Timeout
          And similar applicators with Selox have been used for years in disaster medicine and army medicine chests.

          So its effectiveness is negligible.
          Do you understand what it means to stop bleeding in 15 seconds? This means saved hundreds or 1000 soldiers (and then when it enters the civilian market) and civilian lives.
          1. 0
            5 February 2014 16: 27
            Quote: atalef
            what does it mean to stop bleeding in 15 seconds

            I really understand! Only all this is a lure if it is an artery and a person is predisposed to allergies.
            Quote: atalef
            This means saved hundreds or 1000 soldiers (and then when it enters the civilian market) and civilian lives.

            It’s been there for a long time, just ask the same surgeons how many people die after tamping wounds with the disappearance of microorganisms into the bloodstream, from banal sepsis.
    8. -2
      5 February 2014 18: 34
      Well dumb Yankees ...
      Have you tried something like polyurethane foam for blocking bullet channels?
      Zim and tight.
      And it's easy to take out.
      Add something to the composition for local anesthesia, to accelerate clotting and better blood absorption.

      ABOUT! Yes, it's a ready-made patent.
      Use it.
    9. -2
      5 February 2014 18: 48
      Quote: afire
      special pulses, so that it turned so that there was no point in clogging the wound, so that it wandered inside or flew out, making a loop, leaving 2 wounds.

      Why is it so difficult, inhuman and not technologically advanced ?!

      It is easier to make composite bullets from fiberglass (or thin non-magnetic wires - yes, remember the "iron man") fastened with something that reduces blood clotting and is rapidly dissolving.
      There is only one hole, the fighter, if not to death, is completely incapacitated due to disability.
      The horror of a painful death from cardiac arrest due to the collapse of the heart valves as a result of a foreign object entering their lumen at any time (this is if you are lucky).
      Or excruciating heart pains and the inevitable death from induced arrhythmia due to the ingress of foreign objects into the cardiac cavities and blood vessels of the heart (if you are not lucky).
      Surgery is useless.

      Brrr ... I'm sick of myself.
      No, this patent is banned !!!!!
      For the use of impingement for permission to issue such ammunition to fighters, liability without a statute of limitations.
  2. Andronic
    +15
    5 February 2014 10: 06
    wow! This is good, it means that an analogue will appear in civilian life soon, and this is hundreds of thousands of saved lives.
    1. +3
      5 February 2014 11: 30
      In hospitals, such tampons have been used for a long time ... Only in operating rooms ... But here it was invented for field conditions ... And most importantly, it is problematic to lose it later ... Rengen sees where the foreign body is ...
      And at the expense of the lives saved, I completely agree.
      1. +2
        5 February 2014 21: 57
        If this drug is intended to save a person’s life, it’s not a pity to spend billions on it. Young people. The life of your soldiers is most common. We would all like that.
        1. +1
          5 February 2014 22: 06
          Quote: lonely
          If this drug is intended to save a person’s life, it’s not a pity to spend billions on it. Young people. The life of your soldiers is most common. We would all like that.

          good
  3. waisson
    +7
    5 February 2014 10: 08
    no words - super device hi
    1. +8
      5 February 2014 10: 36
      Here, not only the adsorbent itself is important. And the fact that it can be detected by x-ray. How many of our doctors leave tampons in the cavity after surgery. And then they cut it alive again, pull it out. Well, if without complications.
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  4. +7
    5 February 2014 10: 10
    A good thing is the main thing that will save the lives of many wounded
  5. +6
    5 February 2014 10: 16
    A really useful product, no words, this is a real breakthrough in medicine. One pity we will not be used.
    1. +6
      5 February 2014 10: 28
      Quote: mountain
      A really useful product, no words, this is a real breakthrough in medicine. One pity we will not be used.


      Well will it be trophy winked
      1. 0
        5 February 2014 12: 02
        Hi Aleksey! In, in, I agree. am
    2. 0
      5 February 2014 19: 04
      We have better means.
      Even in car first-aid kits as it was included. In the form of napkins.
  6. +4
    5 February 2014 10: 34
    I read that in our country security forces involved in anti-terrorist operations use female tampons to close bullet wounds. So it’s not clear why such difficulties (applicator, radiopaque substance)? Yes, 5 lemons for revision! It’s easier to be!
    1. +7
      5 February 2014 10: 48
      It was easier to be in the tsarist army during the First World War. Although our army is not much easier now - simple Kalash without kolyimators, armored vehicles in the overwhelming majority without thermal imagers, reconnaissance without drones, etc., etc. So it turns out and women's tampons instead of modern drugs. it is clear that such notions are not made from a good life
      1. 0
        5 February 2014 11: 00
        But the device from the article is the same absorbent as in tampons - only more complex. It is more difficult to "inject", it is more difficult to get it out (this is why the contrast agent is not forgotten in the body).
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      3. 0
        5 February 2014 19: 06
        Tampons are what. Polyurethane foam was also used.
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    3. +1
      5 February 2014 11: 23
      Quote: umah
      I read that in our country security forces involved in anti-terrorist operations use female tampons to close bullet wounds. So it’s not clear why such difficulties (applicator, radiopaque substance)? Yes, 5 lemons for revision! It’s easier to be!

      Well, no matter how wounds can be not only bullet wounds, the issue is also with disinfection, it is doubtful that the tampons are sterile ... Their use is probably more ersatz.
  7. +1
    5 February 2014 10: 41
    We would have such a device in military and civilian medicine, it seems this is really a breakthrough!
  8. -1
    5 February 2014 11: 09
    Getting ready for a big war ...
  9. Cpa
    +1
    5 February 2014 11: 09
    I read somewhere that some of the doctors (orderlies) in our units use a surgical clamp when the tamponade is ineffective. The British commandos used to use super-glue.
  10. +3
    5 February 2014 11: 14
    this is a cool invention. it is not a sin to steal and produce ourselves.
  11. Consmo
    +3
    5 February 2014 11: 15
    I have a tribe, a graduate student with her professor applied for a patent for obtaining pure protein over 90 percent. Last summer. Since the refusal was not followed in the summer, they are waiting for the issuance of papers.
    Leather is almost 100 percent protein. Remember Chaplin's movie "The Gold Rush" when they ate their leather boots. Turns out it makes sense!
    The protein was obtained from the skins in a slaughterhouse, and when applied in bandages, the wounds heal right before our eyes. Cartilage is restored. Muscles are increased - bodybuilders eat pure protein.
    Previously, protein was not produced in Russia on an industrial scale.
    And here is your own, original and not expensive way.
    It saddens that there are no specialized instruments in the institute ...
    They collected for experiments from household kitchen electronics and construction equipment. I gave something to the laboratory.
    There is no normal microscope, with a monitor, for 30-40 thousand.
    But now there is a feeling of interest. Ferrets are manufacturers walking around, mainly from the food and perfume industries, but there are also companies working in the defense industry.
    1. 0
      5 February 2014 15: 55
      Quote: Konsmo
      I have a tribe, a graduate student with her professor applied for a patent for obtaining pure protein over 90 percent. Last summer. Since the refusal was not followed in the summer, they are waiting for the issuance of papers.
      Leather is almost 100 percent protein. Remember Chaplin's movie "The Gold Rush" when they ate their leather boots. Turns out it makes sense!
      The protein was obtained from the skins in a slaughterhouse, and when applied in bandages, the wounds heal right before our eyes. Cartilage is restored. Muscles are increased - bodybuilders eat pure protein.
      Previously, protein was not produced in Russia on an industrial scale.
      And here is your own, original and not expensive way.
      It saddens that there are no specialized instruments in the institute ...
      They collected for experiments from household kitchen electronics and construction equipment. I gave something to the laboratory.
      There is no normal microscope, with a monitor, for 30-40 thousand.
      But now there is a feeling of interest. Ferrets are manufacturers walking around, mainly from the food and perfume industries, but there are also companies working in the defense industry.


      Cool story ...
      But it is not without reason that in the pharmaceutical industry of the whole world, from invention to permission of its use in medicine, usually 8-10 years of the most intense tests take place (on cells, on animals, on large animals, on volunteers, wide in clinics, etc.). They are such side effects ... they can get out even after a few years.
      So ... ce la vie so for 10 years apparently
      1. Consmo
        +1
        5 February 2014 16: 54
        You are partly right.
        But. Proteins are identical supplied from the West. For the food industry from Argentina.
        White flakes like snowflakes. I have it, you brought the tribe. The first version and improved cleaning. According to the first results, it is not inferior to the Japanese. which are sold by weight to bodybuilders for a lot of money.
        Secondly. The professor is a lady under sixty. A very pleasant and cheerful woman.
        She says all the certificates, we will get it in a few months. She has been in this topic all her life. Not the first patent. Then they in their environment know everything and everyone.
        On military topics, they have long been cooperating with one company and their certification is generally the matter. The materials have been received before in quantities of a coffee cup. And they have tested them.
        That year we negotiated with one company that took out a loan for this business of 350 million rubles. Industrial production. I don't know what happened. There are piles driven into the ground at the construction site of the complex. Photos were even on the internet.
        The money was either stolen, or as always. hi
        I helped a little with the contract, so I'm aware of it.
        But to score. Now we are having preliminary conversations with others in the Moscow region.
        It mainly goes to the food sector and there is demand. What do you think is added to the sausage?
        A protein that absorbed water and bound it into a jelly-like substance ..
        Now even meat is brought from abroad, pumped up with proteins and water, so it is cheap.
        I'm not talking about sausages.
        Protein can absorb huge amounts of water (or blood for dressing and healing)
        Good luck to us all. drinks
  12. ikken
    +1
    5 February 2014 11: 22
    Nice invention. I think it will come to us too, a year or two after the start of mass production.
  13. +4
    5 February 2014 11: 30
    I thought the picture was "left", but this is really such a device.

  14. +3
    5 February 2014 12: 24
    Thing is good.
    But the gauze will no longer be rinsed, and for a long time ... If, of course, the doctor has an alternative in the first-aid kits, usually these are specialized tampons, and sometimes quite ordinary ones (which are for girls), without jokes really save.
  15. +2
    5 February 2014 13: 27
    Quote: umah
    I read that in our country security forces involved in anti-terrorist operations use female tampons to close bullet wounds. So it’s not clear why such difficulties (applicator, radiopaque substance)? Yes, 5 lemons for revision! It’s easier to be!


    I agree. It’s a pity that the combat doctors who passed Afghanistan are usually laconic .. But I was at a lecture of one and, I think, he would have given many odds here with foreign technologies on-line ..!
    1. 0
      5 February 2014 15: 56
      Quote: Tra-ta-ta
      Quote: umah
      I read that in our country security forces involved in anti-terrorist operations use female tampons to close bullet wounds. So it’s not clear why such difficulties (applicator, radiopaque substance)? Yes, 5 lemons for revision! It’s easier to be!


      I agree. It’s a pity that the combat doctors who passed Afghanistan are usually laconic .. But I was at a lecture of one and, I think, he would have given many odds here with foreign technologies on-line ..!


      Well, it's clear that any of our doctors with Afghan combat experience will give odds to any of their doctors with Afghan experience. feel

      I think a normal doctor will only be happy with the new remedy ...
    2. 0
      5 February 2014 19: 16
      In Afghanistan, a lot of things were tested in terms of emergency medicine.
      Perfluorocarbon - Rh-independent blood substitute - "blue blood". It is a pity that there are two laboratories left from production, but they are still being made by order of the Ministry of Emergencies.
      Siloxene is a self-absorbable dressing material. But somehow it didn't go with him - a high frequency of an allergic reaction.
      Hemostatic aseptic napkins - they were even put into first-aid kits at one time.
  16. Leshka
    0
    5 February 2014 13: 57
    interestingly, we have such developments
    1. 0
      5 February 2014 15: 50
      Yes, I say this with full responsibility, because I myself, although somewhat from the side (burns), is involved. and then you do not need to pull out anything, it dissolves itself.
  17. negeroi
    0
    5 February 2014 14: 21
    Ours have such developments. Ours have a hundred times cooler. Only after all, these developments are not in the West, but Ours, and therefore in the table, and there is no money for them, they were forgotten. Our space medicine has developed many devices and devices that are needed now like air to many many. For example, a complex for the rehabilitation and support of astronauts in space is the best tool for patients with cerebral palsy. And cerebral palsy centers where they themselves, where sponsorship efforts, inventing and on the knee, are trying to create at least something similar. But there is no state program, and there is no funding. Cosmemedics have even more schnyazhkas, and much cooler ones, for example, a sarcophagus-type stretcher-type complex that allows you to save the life of the victim on the battlefield and in an accident, and even in some extreme conditions ... several hours, several hours before arriving at a hospital, hospital. Lacerated wounds, sprawling intestines, large blood loss, and similar injuries, in the presence of such a complex, are not fatal. Many people know that most of the wounded die on the way to honey. ikam.This complex is not like the American trick, much cooler. But it was invented in the USSR, and forgotten. Like many and many things ... Yes, on some licenses and the sale of such equipment you can earn better than oil and weapons. The need for such equipment is simple gigantic. All the armies of the world, all the emergency services of the world are a bonanza. But ... why there, you all know.
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      5 February 2014 16: 01
      Quote: negeroi
      Ours have such developments, ours have a hundred times better

      In general, medicine in the Russian Federation is cooler, so they collect money for treatment abroad --- I don't know why they collect it, it's probably just that
      Quote: negeroi
      Our space medicine has developed many devices and devices that are needed as quickly as air by many. For example, a complex of rehabilitation and support for astronauts in space is the best tool for patients with cerebral palsy.

      Can I have a link to this technique?
      Quote: negeroi
      Lacerated wounds, sprawling intestines, large blood loss, and similar injuries, in the presence of such a complex, are not fatal.

      What is the connection between cerebral palsy and lacerated intestines?
      Quote: negeroi
      Cosmemedics also have shnyazhki, and much cooler ones, for example, a sarcophagus-type stretcher-type complex that allows you to save the life of the victim on the battlefield and in an accident, and even in some extreme conditions ... for several hours

      Why should COSMOMEDICS belay such bullshit? In orbit from compartment to compartment of the wounded (probably by aliens) to carry?
      Quote: negeroi
      This complex is no match for the American trick, much cooler

      Indeed, why did Friske collect money for an operation in the States - Malakhov divorced the people like suckers
      Quote: negeroi
      Yes, one license and the sale of such equipment can earn better than oil and weapons

      But where are they?
      Quote: negeroi
      The need for such equipment is simply gigantic.

      So where is it?
      Quote: negeroi
      .All the armies of the world, all the emergency aid of the world is a bonanza. But ... but what’s there, you all know

      In the course of what?
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      2. negeroi
        -2
        5 February 2014 16: 17
        No, you can't. I'm not a reference bureau for those who cannot read, or those who extract fig from the text.

        What is the connection between intestines and cerebral palsy? Well, you have established it, and you explain.


        Why do cosmemedics need this bullshit? And you ask them. Maybe they don't need neurophysiologists, but they are in the Aerospace Medical Center. There are also developments for the rescue of astronauts. Do you know, people die, they die from different things, here are different developments. This is me for stupid, and the normal ones themselves understand this. Regarding the fact that there is none, it was my comment. But if this is stupid, it’s hard to understand ... well this is not a question for me, but for mom and dad.
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          5 February 2014 16: 25
          Quote: negeroi
          A reference? No, you can’t

          Who would doubt which links to OBS
          Quote: negeroi
          Why do cosmemedics need such bullshit? And you ask them

          OBS astronauts - or rather astronauts laughing
          Quote: negeroi
          .There are also astronaut rescue developments. Do you die, die happens

          List of dead astronauts - can I?
          Quote: negeroi
          But if this is stupid, it’s hard to understand ... well, this is not a question for me, but for mom and dad.

          You can email. mail of your mom and dad - I will ask laughing
          1. negeroi
            0
            5 February 2014 16: 37
            By the way, but still, what about cerebral palsy and intestines? Could you explain the connection? And then I was all exhausted, well, how curious.
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          1. negeroi
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            5 February 2014 16: 32
            Well, it's clear to those who in the tank need lists and references for everything in their tank. What they don't know in their tank due to their ignorance, it can't be. Well, on command, I'll start jumping over the stick, Are you curious? Well Duc poke the keys with your pens, and you will get a shit, you find any information, and on the dead cosmonauts. And you are right! A thousand times right? Fuck the astronauts medicine ?! By the way, I see these devices with my own eyes and But I’m not going to prove anything to the drunkard. I can do without it. :)
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              5 February 2014 16: 39
              Quote: negeroi
              Well so it is clear to those who in the tank need all the little lists, references

              No longer necessary, and so everything is clear. Continue, the benefits are guaranteed
              Quote: negeroi
              Are you curious?

              No longer, enough for the curious to put a webcam near the bench where the pensioners are sitting
              Quote: negeroi
              And you're right! A thousand times right? Why the heck of the astronauts medicine ?!

              Medicine and your tales are two different things.
              Quote: negeroi
              By the way, I can see with my own eyes these devices and devices.

              Who would doubt that . ask junkies - they saw flying crocodiles --- the same with their own eyes
              Quote: negeroi
              But I'm not going to prove anything to the drunkard

              No need anymore
              Quote: negeroi
              I can joke without it. :)

              What do you generally do
              1. negeroi
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                5 February 2014 16: 48
                But I’m a bit more understandable. Hah! I’m the second psychologist, and in tyrnet for ten years like that. And like you ... I’ll figure it out in a few phrases. I won’t go public. Everything, except for a small part. You accuse me of banter , whereas it was not me who started, and moreover, it is you who in every possible way emphasize the mockery of your texts. But when you get naughty, you leave in pictures, slowly, with a touch. Without answering a single question. I will not say why, and why you are coming here , I protect your delicate organization. Oh, and even in my drug addiction ... Hmm .. Yes, you my friend are not just a boor, you are a pimply boor, then a bish troll. And come here and bark. Or rather, first of all, to assert yourself. formerly, didn’t answer what is the relationship between cerebral palsy and intestines?
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              3. negeroi
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                5 February 2014 16: 52
                Oh, I forgot about the PLUSES! I cried! An adult man plays like and threatens them !!! Five points is OFF! And he kind of pushed him with code support of an authoritative troll. Yeah ... Just ... man ... you're cool I haven't laughed like that for a long time. Sorry, for you. It was temporary. Of course you are cool. Thank you so much for a long time.)
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        5 February 2014 19: 20
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: negeroi
        Cosmemedics also have shnyazhki, and much cooler ones, for example, a sarcophagus-type stretcher-type complex that allows you to save the life of the victim on the battlefield and in an accident, and even in some extreme conditions ... for several hours
        And why should COSMOMEDICS do such garbage? In orbit from compartment to compartment of the wounded (probably by aliens) to carry?


        Cosmemedics also need this on earth - accidents in space technology often happen so far.
        She is still experienced, even if large-scale.
        Well, for example, in the event of a fire on board a manned spacecraft, it is more than likely to get burned. You can’t get to the ground in time.

        They got it into a bunch of burn centers and disaster medicine.
        1. negeroi
          0
          5 February 2014 19: 44
          In recent years, cosmemedicine has been working on enthusiasm. And under the USSR, they did whatever they did, for whatever situations they invented algorithms. And it was through disaster medicine that cerebral palsy rehabilitation centers began to use methods and analogs of simulators for astronauts.

          The same thing I wrote about, the bish about the stretcher, I don’t know why and why the comrade connected them with the text above, unfortunately they did not receive a residence permit in disaster medicine. The holder is ... Yes, Roscosmos and the institutes afflicted with it are inundated with patents for all sorts of shnyashki. What's the point, they do not always cope with the main work, what can we say about non-core products.
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  18. +1
    5 February 2014 14: 30
    And what are our scientific companies? Still learning to march? It's time to promote such an invention, since how many soldiers died from blood loss.
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      5 February 2014 16: 04
      Quote: Mercenary
      .Ved how many soldiers died from blood loss.

      In the field, profuse blood loss often becomes fatal to a wounded soldier, even if his vital organs are not affected. To solve this problem, Israeli military doctors "adopted" dry plasma, which allows you to quickly restore the volume of blood in the body even before the delivery of the wounded to the hospital.

      The idea of ​​using drugs based on dry plasma is not new in itself - many medical centers in developed countries in recent years have increasingly resorted to this technology. However, the military has so far been in no hurry to put it into practice, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) department of operative medicine told Haaretz. So, although the IDF received the corresponding recommendations last year, only a few weeks ago dry plasma was tested in "field conditions." With her help, Israeli orderlies saved the life of a Palestinian who was bleeding to death after a car accident. Thus, the IDF became the first and so far the only army in the world to use this tool “in the field”.

      As the military noted, the use of dry plasma has significant advantages over other methods of restoring blood volume. Unlike whole donated blood, it can be kept at room temperature, the shelf life reaches 15 months. If necessary, it is enough to dilute it in distilled water, which also does not require special storage conditions. At the same time, only donor blood of groups A and B with a negative Rh factor is used for the preparation of the powder, that is, it does not cause compatibility problems. At this stage, the IDF uses LyoPlas Nw powder plasma, produced by the German Red Cross.
      1. negeroi
        +2
        5 February 2014 16: 24
        I was abrupt and impolite above. I apologize to you. This is my incontinence, to yours ... I don’t know how to get your text. You ascribe to me what I did not say. You come up with some kind of nonsense, and you ask me about it. In my opinion, it’s akin to rudeness. This is where the reaction comes from. For which I apologize. But only for harshness, then it’s the form. But in fact .. read carefully and formulate your question, or your questions so that they would make sense attitude to what I said, and not what you thought or came up with.
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        5 February 2014 18: 36
        It’s easier for you - heat, blood loss and death in the cold occur much faster, and stopping blood in the cold is much more difficult.
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    5 February 2014 14: 36
    Military medicine greatly promoted conventional medicine, just as progress depended heavily on war. Disputes are empty, this device is needed, and not only on the battlefield, but also in everyday life. If the tool shows good results in comparison with its predecessors, why not implement it? Please do not politicize by whom it was invented and in which country, if it can help our soldiers and citizens (in peacetime), then it is necessary to implement or look for (buy, invent) analogues.
  20. coserg 2012
    +1
    5 February 2014 15: 32
    As a child, I had many acquaintances of men who fought. One of them (a real regimental intelligence officer) once said in a conversation that when they were wounded, they often used ashes from burned newspapers as hemostatic. Fifteen years later I had the opportunity to check this on myself. Unwound under the bandages there was a shell of ash, hard and strong. The blood stopped gushing very quickly. True, and the tourniquet was present.
  21. 0
    5 February 2014 15: 52
    With severe bleeding, everything is fine, which helps to delay blood loss, bandages, tampons, tampons, even diapers, everything that is at hand. But if possible - it is better to impose a tourniquet. There were still some medications that increase blood coagulation, but they are not instantaneous and can contribute to thrombus formation.
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      5 February 2014 16: 07
      Quote: shelva
      With severe bleeding, everything is fine, which helps to delay the loss of blood, bandages, tampons, tamps, even diapers, everything is at hand.

      In general, on this occasion, I would like to hear Pupyrchaty's comments, as a military orderly who took part in hostilities. I think he has something to tell.
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        5 February 2014 16: 11
        I'm also waiting for the pimply. His opinion will be very authoritative.
      2. negeroi
        -1
        5 February 2014 17: 12
        Yes, and I want to hear your voice. You’ve accused me of banter and physical abuse and drug addiction. And if you’re not physical, then you will answer for your words, give your arguments and justify. So they attributed to me the connection between cerebral palsy and intestines. And why and why, and where did you see such a connection? Maybe you came up with it? And attributed the authorship to me, but then it was you and fizdabol. In general, if weasel, do not consider it a work, explain. And please do not spread, concentrate on the intestines and cerebral palsy. It all started with them, right.
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    5 February 2014 18: 41
    Still would have come up with such a device that would gummy ass sticked. Forever and ever. Maybe then they would have died out like mammoths laughing .
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    5 February 2014 22: 24
    Well, this is in the USA, but in the Russian Federation how ?.
  24. +1
    6 February 2014 00: 44
    negeroi
    quote: "... I haven't laughed like that for a long time"

    So do not abuse oatmeal, dear!
    1. negeroi
      0
      6 February 2014 14: 55
      Dear, as I understand it, did you stand up for your girl? Or say what you wanted? Well, having said A, don't be cowardly, tell B. And then your-Sam is some kind of kindergarten, teenage. How old are you?
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