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Yanukovych made a strong move

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Yanukovych made a strong move



“The president said that if“ we are here, politicians, now we cannot agree, then the only democratic way to resolve the situation is early elections, ”said Viktor Yanukovych’s representative in the Verkhovna Rada, Yuri Miroshnichenko.

The opposition demanded early parliamentary and presidential elections, and now it can get them, but something is not heard of its cheers. What's the matter? In that all three of her heads, in different ways, bluffed, and now the game is revealed. And it becomes clear how she can get the next move mate.

“Euromaidan”, despite the propaganda of “friendly media”, sobered Ukraine, as most independent political analysts predicted. According to the latest data from Socis, today 19,8% of voters would vote for Yanukovych, the second is Klitschko with 19,1%. This is a convincing gap, and he achieved at the peak of protest speeches.

That is, today, the majority of the people of Ukraine do not support the “euromaidan”, no matter what the pro-Western media lied about this chance to win the election from Yanukovich. The second important consequence of the “euromaidan” was the consolidation of the south-east of Ukraine in the fight against the neo-Nazi Bandera “pro-European” movement, and the creation of the Ukrainian front. It is clear that according to the orange scenario, the opposition does not recognize the election results in its favor, but their tears in the situation created in Ukraine will not change anything.

However, the victory of Yanukovych in the elections is possible on one condition: if he enlists the support of the Ukrainian Front, created in the south-east of the country, but uniting all the anti-fascist forces in Ukraine. To do this, he needs to announce in his election program that if he wins in Ukraine, all neo-Nazi parties and organizations will be banned.

The whole “svolot” of Ukraine, of course, will vehemently oppose such an election program. However, even without that, it will still be ardently opposed to Yanukovych, she’s already cursing him with the last words. Another thing is important here: our dear European Union will have to swallow this bitter pill, no matter how much he wants it. And Yanukovych will be able to recoup a little for all his humiliations after Vilnius.

Having legalized the neo-Nazi Freedom party at one time, the Ukrainian authorities made a big mistake. Now is not the time to remember who did it and why. But ... such mistakes are made in "Europe", and then corrected. In Greece, the neo-Nazi party Golden Dawn was banned recently, so in Ukraine such a political decision cannot be approved by European politicians if they don’t want to lose face.

Especially as Europe begins to become sobering, according to German ex-chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, Europe does not have the right to make Ukraine a choice: “If we had negotiated the association with Ukraine and Russia at the same time, the situation would have looked very different.

And even the “best enemy” of Russia Zbigniew Brzezinski believes that “the EU should negotiate with Russia ... The EU and the Russian Federation must find a formula according to which Ukraine (its European integration) is not a threat to Russia's economic interests.” And for Russia, the participation of neo-Nazis in power in Ukraine is unacceptable.

There are many complaints to Yanukovych today, they are fair, but also politically motivated. And what is the president in the world without sin? All are sinful, though in different ways. The thing is different, that today other real candidates for this post in Ukraine are not at all better. And, it is very likely that they will have a lot worse, - this is what is always a pre-election dilemma. To choose the power always has not the best, but the lesser evil.
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  1. mirag2
    mirag2 5 February 2014 06: 51
    +12
    No, this is not a strong move of Yanukovych, but his complete failure!
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 5 February 2014 07: 01
      +128
      Quote: mirag2
      its complete failure!

      Not a fact ... At least now the talk that the non-interference of Russia and the silence of Yanukovych with the inaction of the Berkut is a manifestation of self-control, the main reason for which is the desire for the "demonstrators" to make mistakes and show their true essence, seem to be true, thus by doing so they drove themselves into traps and lost political points.
      So far, everything looks so that everything can work out. The main thing is that this is not an attempt to give out wishful thinking ...
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 5 February 2014 07: 41
        +47
        I agree. In such a situation, endurance was needed. And the Natsiks are now clearly known to the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, who can take whom to develop. The office of "Batkivshchyna" has already been cleaned up and it seems like a criminal case has been opened.
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 5 February 2014 09: 41
          +16
          so that in Ukraine such a political decision cannot but be approved by European politicians if they do not want to “lose face”.


          Damn you two they are afraid to lose face. It is just that the media will not remember about their sins and vehemently point to Ukrainian and Russian.

          The same law on LGBT people in much tougher language up to the prohibition of homosexuality generally exists in several states of the SGA, so what? Has their rhetoric changed in this?
          1. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov 5 February 2014 11: 49
            +17
            different attitude
            1. vakym
              vakym 5 February 2014 21: 45
              +6
              This picture must be translated into English somewhere in their post)
          2. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 5 February 2014 12: 28
            +30
            Quote: Author Victor Kamenev
            Yanukovych’s victory in the elections is possible under one condition: if he enters the support of the Ukrainian Front, created in the southeast of the country, but uniting all anti-fascist forces in Ukraine.

            It would be better if this support is secured by a real and decisive leader, remembering that promises must be kept.

            And that thieves and bandits should be in prison, and not negotiate with him.

            PS. But Father’s sitting. And no one buzzes.
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 5 February 2014 14: 06
              +6
              Quote: Nikolai S.
              It would be better if this support is secured by a real and decisive leader, remembering that promises must be kept.

              where to get it?
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 5 February 2014 17: 23
                +3
                Quote: DanaF1
                where to get it?

                That's right ...
                While Janek "pauses".
              2. Nikotin13
                Nikotin13 5 February 2014 19: 15
                +5
                And why not use the experience of our ANCESTORS: the law of law, where the elected leaders were controlled by the voters. Now who controls the Presidents? People or what?
              3. lg41
                lg41 5 February 2014 19: 55
                +4
                This is the head of the organization "OPLOT" (Kharkov) Zhilin Evgeniy
                1. Ivan_Ivanov
                  Ivan_Ivanov 5 February 2014 22: 11
                  +25
                  Berkut fighter: Moscow is behind us!

                  And now let someone begin to doubt that Ukraine and Russia are one, that Ukraine stands for all of Russia, for all of Russia, that Ukraine needs help. Russia does not help Ukraine, but the 1st Ukrainian Front.
                  1. 31231
                    31231 5 February 2014 22: 37
                    +15
                    Berkut fighter: Moscow is behind us!


                    Russia is for them! (Although I do not like to speak for the whole country, I hope there will be few reproaches).
                    But Bendery for yourself is not a bad Europe and the name of the grooms.
                    1. Foxmara
                      Foxmara 6 February 2014 09: 57
                      +5
                      No doubt friend)
                      and you don’t need to listen to benders at all. The SBU should listen to them when they give evidence.
              4. kavkaz8888
                kavkaz8888 6 February 2014 08: 19
                +5
                DanaF1 Today, 14:06 PM
                "... where can I get it? ..."

                Wasserman for the presidency !!!
                1. Foxmara
                  Foxmara 6 February 2014 09: 59
                  +2
                  it's not gonna go.
                  he will not agree to part with his appearance and image .. probably.
                  and he is a Jew, which to many is like an eyesore

                  And this is not his business. He is an analyst, and the president must be decisive. This is a man of action.
              5. acute
                acute 6 February 2014 11: 53
                +1
                why not? That in Ukraine, normal politicians have transferred, are there only Yetsenyuki, Klitschki and Tyagniboki? Let not the Russian land become impoverished
                1. Oleksandr
                  Oleksandr 11 February 2014 20: 39
                  0
                  Can I write out from Russia?
            2. Canep
              Canep 5 February 2014 17: 29
              +5
              Quote: Nikolai S.
              It would be better if this support is secured by a real and decisive leader, remembering that promises must be kept.
              I think Yanukovych is far from, and would not have gone to early elections without the support of both his party and the front. After this Maidan, it became clear to everyone who is who in Ukraine. Klitschko and nationalists are one team.
            3. Fin
              Fin 5 February 2014 17: 54
              +11
              Quote: Nikolai S.
              It would be better if this support is secured by a real and decisive leader, remembering that promises must be kept.

              Yanukovych is a political corpse. The second term does not shine for him even in the sweetest dream. Not the fact that the East and South will vote for him. Not only did he discredit himself by the rapid "rise" of the state of his lawless son, who operated in the East, but also by the inability and fear in decision-making, rushing from the Russian Federation to the EU and back. Since the beginning of the crisis, he hid his head in the sand and is still there.
              And the maydaunas are now regrouping, consulting and nominating one. Then the falsification of calculations in the West and East 50 to 50. And again the same rake. He must leave after presenting a worthy candidate Dobkin or someone else. Only in this case there will be a chance. But Yanyk will seize power with a stranglehold and lose, possibly with an escape from the country.
            4. Walk
              Walk 11 February 2014 07: 39
              0
              I agree. And not just to put the entire top, but also all the maydanuts who attacked Berkut, regional administrations, and buses. Provide evidence and convict according to the maximum number of articles of the Criminal Code. And also to charge all Western politicians and the "liberal intelligentsia" who appeared on the Maidan with fiery speeches in support of the protesters, accusations of plotting a coup and make them persona non grata.
        2. German
          German 5 February 2014 14: 26
          +1
          yeah ... better late. am
        3. Imigrantt
          Imigrantt 5 February 2014 14: 58
          +14
          Gentlemen do not need to start with helmets in helmets - there should generally be a conversation with them short complete extermination !!!! But it is necessary to plant Turchinov, Tyagnibok, Yatsenyuk, Klitschko !!! And the rest of the Eurogay integrators! All this bastard, stinking dogs, and they should sit somewhere in the Urals in uranium mines !!! Forgot for Kuchma, Yushchenko and Kravchuk !!!!! Gray rats !!!! And Mr. Yanukovych to apologize to the southeast for treason and for his own selfish interests !!!!
          1. housekeeper
            housekeeper 5 February 2014 15: 03
            +14
            And here it is necessary to plant Turchinov, Tyagnibok, Yatsenyuk, Klitschko !!!

            These are all to the same punks. These are just talking heads, dolls. Puppeteers must be crushed! am
            1. zzz
              zzz 5 February 2014 15: 31
              +10
              Quote: little house
              These are all to the same punks. These are just talking heads, dolls. Puppeteers must be crushed!


              And also all the media people from directors of channels or newspapers to the last journalist for subversive and deceitful activities, deliberately aimed at destroying the state and inciting conflicts between fellow citizens, for keeping silent about truthful information and staging an information blockade for the people of Eastern Ukraine !!
              1. romrem
                romrem 5 February 2014 19: 07
                -17%
                you probably would have transplanted everyone who speaks and thinks not like you
                1. JIaIIoTb
                  JIaIIoTb 5 February 2014 19: 59
                  +17
                  You need to plant not for what you think differently. It is necessary to plant for violation of the Constitution and Laws, for an attempted coup.
                  For violence, for arson, for the seizure of buildings, for calls for the overthrow of Power.
                  The list goes on.
                  But it is imperative to plant.
                  If there is not enough space in Ukraine for convicts. We have places in Taimyr. Sign an interstate agreement and let the foxes be considered with the loons .... for life.
                  1. surovyi kot
                    surovyi kot 7 February 2014 18: 52
                    +3
                    On Taimyr, the same people live, that is, we are northerners, why should we? They are no workers! Let them send them to Poland, they (the Maidan workers) promised the Poles to "break" so let them answer for the bazaar like a kid! The main thing is the minimum cost.
                    1. free
                      free 10 February 2014 17: 33
                      0
                      bring them down and pick everything up
                  2. internatio
                    internatio 10 February 2014 05: 22
                    +1
                    You are right, but there is no need to turn "zones" into reserves (repositories) of the Nazis.
                    GOUN members - to Poland, they will be "addicted" there, others - to the USA, Canada. Just take DNA samples first. But with young people it is more difficult - there would be popular construction projects, let them build housing for themselves, then they will begin to study.
                    Until there is a smart youth policy on the part of the state in Ukraine, there will still be the same rake and pitchfork.
                    1. Oleksandr
                      Oleksandr 11 February 2014 20: 47
                      0
                      Again, budget savings. To drive all young people to labor camps, food, clothes, a barrack (expenses are here, where without them), and take away passports from those who don’t have to give out (still saving). A subcutaneous chip or strip code (cheaper) and work for the good of the state. And as it’s not our mind’s business how to manage the benefits, sovereign people get sn for what.
                      And further the caste society: administration, police, workers.
                2. 31231
                  31231 5 February 2014 20: 07
                  +7
                  you probably would have transplanted everyone who speaks and thinks not like you

                  Why plant? Penalties to tear from the balobolstvo of many journalists and Internet scribblers. And then they write, about someone that is indictment, but can not provide legal evidence. A people hawala.
                  If, for example, the "non-living" media publish your photo of a friendly hug with a friend, acquaintance or colleague and make the far-reaching conclusion that you are gay, will you like it?
                  So it turns out that rich rot with the help of its controlled media pours mud on quite decent leaders and politicians. A people hawala. And Ukraine rushes from Yanyk to Yushch and back.
                3. sokolp
                  sokolp 5 February 2014 23: 59
                  +2
                  I add, history proves that victory that is not brought to its logical conclusion (the complete destruction of the enemy) always turns into defeat for the victorious. Our ancestors made an unforgivable wide (humane) gesture — did not destroy your ancestors — we now have to start all over again .. only now you get confused 4-7% of crosses and lackeys are under your feet, and planting you is too soft a measure, the more I see people like you, the more I hate how I look.
                  1. internatio
                    internatio 10 February 2014 05: 35
                    0
                    You're right! But do not go too far, they are not representatives of another (?!?) Species. Degradants, lackeys of the West, idiots - yes. And most are just criminals. Almost all libraries with smart books were removed from schools, there is no political education, there is no development of the mind, only education, as in Germany in the 30s. Here is the result ...
            2. Foxmara
              Foxmara 6 February 2014 10: 02
              +1
              I agree, but who exactly? the first place seems to be the United States. But .. there is an opinion that they are controlled

              and. England
              b. Israel

              Crush puppeteers puppeteers? wassat
            3. surovyi kot
              surovyi kot 7 February 2014 18: 40
              0
              That's right! Close the gas valve, right now, the winter is cold today, and then negotiate. This will be the number. The north stream will not cope, and the south will not. The money yourself (the puppeteers) will bring money without any reservations, but if you bring everything down oppositionists.
            4. Current 72
              Current 72 10 February 2014 03: 12
              +1
              You can’t get the puppeteers, they are all abroad, and these dolls are on hand, so take them by the gills and into the frying pan. It may be rude, but it seems to me that it will be effective.
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 10 February 2014 18: 28
                0
                That's right, if there is still no way to reach the head, it is necessary to chop off the tentacles.
          2. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 5 February 2014 17: 01
            +1
            Quote: Imigrantt
            Gentlemen do not need to start with helmets in helmets - there should generally be a conversation with them short complete extermination !!!! But it is necessary to plant Turchinov, Tyagnibok, Yatsenyuk, Klitschko !!! And the rest of the Eurogay integrators! All this bastard, stinking dogs, and they should sit somewhere in the Urals in uranium mines !!! Forgot for Kuchma, Yushchenko and Kravchuk !!!!! Gray rats !!!! And Mr. Yanukovych to apologize to the southeast for treason and for his own selfish interests !!!!

            all right you say ...

            but given your knowledge of the Russian language, the number of exclamation points and an avatar, you are more like a provocateur ...
          3. internatio
            internatio 10 February 2014 05: 06
            0
            Starley, I do not agree with you. There is no need to plant such. After all, there is a war. Or does anyone doubt it? Tribunal. Wall. Dot. No - oblivion.
        4. Astrey
          Astrey 5 February 2014 18: 00
          +1
          I DO NOT BELIEVE! Where does the current government have so much exposure?

          Who uses the exhausted Maidan? Opposition? Not funny. The radicals are scary.

          Who organizes the radicals? Who will be able to organize such masses of non-meditating rioters? It is possible to scare the re-election of depreciated oppositionists only from the Russian information platform - the Ukrainian is not so popular precisely because of the narrowness of the audience that it can focus on.

          Tritushki will not pass in the re-election under any leaven. And the very fact of re-election scares only the organizers of radical protests. Any legitimization of power will lead to their exposure. And goodbye to the myth of "nationality", that is, anonymity. And any ruler will immediately begin not to execute the declassified, but to milk them.
          1. 31231
            31231 5 February 2014 20: 14
            +3
            It is possible to scare the re-election of depreciated oppositionists only from the Russian information platform - the Ukrainian is not so popular precisely because of the narrowness of the audience that it can focus on.


            Rare nonsense. If the Russian information platform is more popular than the Ukrainian one, then why has Freedom in less than 10 years increased its electorate by more than 15 times?
            Why do vkontaktiks ults gundosyat for independence, and not for unity with the vehicle? They kind of like fans should be cosmopolitan, because sport unites.
        5. Corsair
          Corsair 5 February 2014 19: 46
          +4
          Quote: Horst78
          The office of "Batkivshchyna" has already been cleaned up and it seems like a criminal case has been opened.

          The search took place back in December, the opening of a criminal case was announced at the end of January ... For some time, the SBU “harnessed, and WHERE was this structure and WHAT was it doing when the nationalists (OPEN!!!) in Ukraine and abroad, they trained militants to seize power in the country ???
        6. AnaBat
          AnaBat 5 February 2014 20: 33
          +1
          Infa has passed that they have already gone through the "Blow", they complain in the media!
        7. vo.dum
          vo.dum 7 February 2014 07: 51
          0
          Yes, endurance is needed-if the leader himself is decisive and not afraid to go to confrontation, not for the sake of his billions abroad but for the sake of his voters and his promises ... But here is bluff after bluff .. some people want the type of elections, others like that are tough ... behind the scenes, they’re elementary discussing the financial affairs of the oligarchs, considering the people of Ukraine just a screen ... hi
          1. surovyi kot
            surovyi kot 9 February 2014 13: 35
            0
            Well said!
      2. Nasruddin
        Nasruddin 5 February 2014 09: 29
        +62
        Such "traps" are expensive for Ukrainians!
        Here is my sister sent the story "Berkutovets":
        HELL on the Maidan
        ... Correspondence of "Berkut" among themselves. A look from the other side.
        Tatyana Taran: Here is the speech of one of the Berkutovites. Colleague
        my friend, he visited that hell that was happening on the Maidan. Read !!!
        Everything in the media is fabricating and carrying a complete lie. In Donetsk, the people do not know what is happening here. They show trivialities and expose everything as if we are here just killing civilians and mutilating demonstrators. And no one shows how we were blown up and burned. They made some fascists out of the BB and Golden Eagle in the media. All press purchased.
        The riots began on the 23rd. On TV for 2 days - not a word.
        And then no one showed how German offensive marches were played under the Cabinet of Ministers and flags with swastikas and runes of the Third Reich developed.
        No one saw an 18-year-old conscript soldier crucified on a grate at the gate in the arch at the entrance to one of the courtyards.
        They didn’t show how the bus drove, didn’t go on the demonstrators when it was blocked, and stopped the bus. The Nazis tore this bus. There were a dozen golden eagles. Guys under body armor, under the knees
        they threw explosive packets, and for twenty minutes we couldn’t break through to them.
        No one showed broken arms and legs, hundreds of broken helmets and charred bodies in burn departments throughout the area. Permanent firearms.
        And one guy on the Cabinet of the 24th stood next to me, then after another wave crawled to his knees. We thought a gas mask failed and he lost consciousness. But when he was pulled out of service, his helmet and gas mask were removed, an awl in his throat was sticking out under his collar.
        We sat locked for 3 days in the Cabinet. There were only 900 of us and 35 thousand of them.
        They didn’t show our buses without windows and many, many other things on TV.
        10 km from Kiev there was a convoy with tiger cubs from Crimea blocked.
        This is our shift. And the bandits threw a crowd in front of them and did not let them into the city. No official takes responsibility to order them
        to interrupt there and give way to the column. All generals are either on vacation or on
        sick leave. There is no one to command. Everyone is afraid for his chair.
        At Bankova, when the bandits tore the conscripts, we stood 500 meters in
        courtyard of the treasury. We were not given the command "face" for an hour and a half. These guys were simply sacrificed there. And at first they were even forbidden to take shields. And the command to them was only to keep the position, and not to use any physical measures. Because we, as it turned out, are not here
        riots are eliminated, and we ensure public safety at a peaceful rally. And on TV they just say that we are beating peaceful students here.
        Yes, there would be such a turmoil in the USA, these oppositionists would have been announced
        terrorists and with their machine gun ...
        At the top are some traitors. And from the special forces, they’ll just make goats at the end
        absolution ...
        We ask you to tell the truth ... repost ... copy ...
        1. Old scoop
          Old scoop 5 February 2014 12: 55
          +25
          The guys are immensely sorry and a low bow to them for endurance, stamina. I am deeply respected for SUCH police. However, let's not forget that this is their job, and conscripts have a civic duty. We understand the police forced them to use force, but they survived. I hope the activists and militants of the Maidan will not get away with it.
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 5 February 2014 14: 11
            +8
            Quote: Old scoop
            conscripts have a civic duty.

            the civil duty of the conscript, to make the enemies of his state die for their homeland, and not be burnt alive by their own fellow citizens ...
        2. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 5 February 2014 14: 10
          +8
          Quote: Nasruddin
          At the top are some traitors. And from the special forces, everyone will just make scapegoats at the end ...

          here I am about that traitors ...
          a lantern is crying for Yanuk, not re-election ...
        3. Goldmitro
          Goldmitro 5 February 2014 14: 39
          +5
          Quote: Nasruddin
          All generals are either on vacation or on
          sick leave. There is no one to command. Everyone is afraid for his chair.
          At the top are some traitors. And from the special forces, everyone will just make scapegoats at the end ...

          Unfortunately, the problem of Ukraine is that the Euro Maidan seams are full not only on the Maidan, there are many in power!
        4. romrem
          romrem 5 February 2014 19: 11
          -11%
          that the Russian media, the unsaleable, do not show any of this, but they would relish it to the fullest
          1. 31231
            31231 5 February 2014 20: 23
            +8
            that the Russian media, the unsaleable, do not show any of this, but they would relish it to the fullest

            Who told you that? That’s just a snap.



            Are you there in Ukraine, that you live in an infovacuum?
            1. sokolp
              sokolp 6 February 2014 00: 08
              +1
              No, worse, many in the "zapadenschina" performed lobotomy. Namely, through mass "tolerating" through the media, the ability to analyze what is known to distinguish a person from an animal has been destroyed. As a consequence, the inability to distinguish between good and evil.
            2. Warryag_74
              Warryag_74 8 February 2014 09: 52
              0
              But a dozen water cannons would really be enough to clear the area in minutes
          2. GorynychZmey78
            GorynychZmey78 5 February 2014 22: 14
            +2
            you even wrote your place of residence in English))
            Full name: romrem [Add to the blacklist]
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            Last Visited: 5 February 2014 20: 02
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            Well, nothing can you say you're a true patriot of your country laughing
            1. 31231
              31231 5 February 2014 22: 29
              +1
              The problem is not in it. And the providers of Ukraine. They have already integrated into Europe and when registering on foreign servers, they give only Latin letters.
        5. lg41
          lg41 5 February 2014 20: 06
          +3
          Thanks for the info. But if there is no commander, then from the personnel, someone is obliged to take over the team. otherwise all performers are destroyed.
        6. Warryag_74
          Warryag_74 8 February 2014 09: 46
          0
          In vain do you think that they don’t know in Donetsk, this G has reached our city too (it’s too painful for Yaytsepuk to have a powerful bunch) My comrades and I went out with the police on patrol to avoid titusism, and a couple of thousand people were sitting near the phones in half an hour . It’s just that here the Euromaydanuty people said clearly POOR FUCK and no media will say anything, they just won’t know. It ended very quickly, they screamed near the Shevchenko monument for 2 days, and in vain.
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      4. Brother77
        Brother77 5 February 2014 09: 51
        +4
        All this is similar to maneuvering defense-strike-withdrawal-movement-strike-again-again retreat, but the question is where are the reserves, soon and there will be no retreat now, then RUSSIA is for you!
        1. Ivan_Ivanov
          Ivan_Ivanov 5 February 2014 12: 00
          +6
          In Stalingrad, for half a year, reserves were accumulated, while the Germans were grinding. And now the enemy is safer and stronger will be ...
          1. xan
            xan 5 February 2014 12: 15
            +11
            Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
            In Stalingrad, for half a year, reserves were accumulated, while the Germans were grinding. And now the enemy is safer and stronger will be ...

            do not flatter amers, they are just meaner and more cunning
            If Stalin stood at the helm of Russia as in the Second World War, the situation would be fundamentally different
            1. Ivan_Ivanov
              Ivan_Ivanov 5 February 2014 12: 28
              +9
              they are just meaner and trickier

              that’s even more dangerous.

              in 2000, the country was in a more deplorable state, much weaker (especially in comparison with other countries) than in the 24th. Not only economically, but also territorially and morally.
            2. Skiff-2
              Skiff-2 5 February 2014 12: 56
              +10
              Quote: xan
              do not flatter amers, they are just meaner and more cunning

              Indeed, American troops are already arriving in Ukraine under the pretext of joint exercises (they were planned for March, but they decided to turn around earlier), ships with marines in the Black Sea, for which Tyagnibok especially thanked his masters. The State Department announced the beginning of the operation "the other day" and the end by March 24. This is an open aggression against Russia, for Ukraine is not a country, but a torn away part of our united Motherland. The Maidan terrorists are sabotage detachments of the "Foreign Legion" of the United States and London, subordinate only to their masters and sponsors, and not to a buffoonery opposition, and political moves seem to lead to nothing good and time will not drag on (I really want to be wrong).
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 5 February 2014 14: 16
                +1
                Quote: Skif-2
                American troops under the pretext of joint exercises (they were planned for March, but decided to deploy early), ships with the Marine Corps in the Black Sea,

                what troops?
                there the Olympics in Sochi in 2 of the day will begin, what exercises during the Olympics ...
                I imagine: figure skating under the cannonade :))))

                and in general, the Ministry of Defense said that there are no Amer ships in the Black Sea ... I somehow believe them ...
              2. romrem
                romrem 5 February 2014 19: 13
                -20%
                who needs you to be captured, sit on your computer and spray gall
            3. CALL.
              CALL. 5 February 2014 14: 10
              +3
              Quote: xan
              do not flatter amers, they are just meaner and more cunning


              More crow is in the sky, and rats are more impudent,
              Leading by the nose - a dime a dozen, a rip - on the leaders.

              Thieves met at the carnival, the country - a hangout of jerkers,
              And Satan rules the ball in her and groom the executioners.

              The riveted eagle lies, and the lion is not the king of beasts,
              Donkeys crowded at the helm and smart rods in full.

              The arrogant today has become a snickering plebe -
              There were worse times, but there was no mean!

              Shaking the sovereign treasury rogues of all stripes,
              The plant dies penniless, the collective farm - without workdays.

              Now expanse talkers, Lafa for ghouls -
              There were worse times, but there was no mean.

              Debauchery, disease, poverty creep from all the cracks,
              Die if you don’t have a wallet - don’t be sick for free!

              Kohl is stupid, so read the strength, do not spare the beaten -
              There were worse times, but there was no mean!

              Steal, steal, rape, rob, kill yourself in yourself
              And get drunk like a drunk and vodka in the throat of lei.

              Waiting for drug addict Anasha, drug addict - glue,
              A club, a knife and a machine gun are waiting for their minutes.

              Throw away decency and shame, "drag", "stick out", bastard
              And on the misfortunes of others, hands are more likely gray.

              Take by the throat, chantrap, decent people -
              There were worse times, but there was no mean!

              Though it is sinful to remember God in vain, but to her, to her -
              There were worse times, but there was no mean!
              http://harchikov.com/home/54-byvali-huzhe-vremena
            4. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 5 February 2014 14: 13
              +2
              Quote: xan
              If Stalin stood at the helm of Russia as in the Second World War, the situation would be fundamentally different

              I’m only afraid that it’s not for the better ...

              unfortunately, in matters of intelligence and cunning, Stalin lagged significantly behind the "sworn partners" ... remember at least the beginning of the Second World War ...

              our current president is better at ...
              1. Snoop
                Snoop 5 February 2014 16: 24
                +4
                Strange, but all the sworn partners chorus broadcast about Stalin's Asian tricks, and all sorts of epithets are supposedly the mysterious sphinx.
                And the beginning of the Second World War was such for objective reasons and not because of the stupidity of Stalin.
                1. Danafxnumx
                  Danafxnumx 5 February 2014 16: 58
                  +3
                  Quote: Snoop
                  Strange, but all the sworn partners chorus broadcast about Stalin's Asian tricks, and all sorts of epithets are supposedly the mysterious sphinx.

                  "The spell partners" will tell you something else ...
                  why do you believe their word so selectively?
                  Quote: Snoop
                  And the beginning of the Second World War was such for objective reasons and not because of the stupidity of Stalin.

                  I’m not talking about stupidity, I’m talking about the fact that he simply did not believe the data of R. Zorge and other agents, including those in Suomi and the Reich, he also hoped for "partners" ... he did not have enough cunning ... and understanding how cunning opponents are ...
                  1. 31231
                    31231 5 February 2014 17: 48
                    0
                    he didn’t have the trick ... and the understanding of how cunning his opponents were ...


                    I think this is an indicator of the soul of Stalin. The Russian soul always sincerely believes in honesty. Until the last. But then it punishes cruelly.
          2. AnaBat
            AnaBat 5 February 2014 17: 00
            +3
            The leader of the Party of Regions faction Alexander Efremov believes that it is more expedient to negotiate with the Maidan, and not with the opposition. It seems to pit the Maidan with the opposition.
            1. lg41
              lg41 5 February 2014 20: 11
              -2
              Efremov is very immoral. Not a creator. but a destroyer. and a thief.
      5. Igor39
        Igor39 5 February 2014 11: 31
        +9
        If you do not get personal, Ukraine is a political and economic bankrupt!
      6. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 5 February 2014 11: 53
        +5
        Elections will not help. If Yanukovych wins, the West will not recognize the results. New Maidan, new elections, and so on until they choose who they need.
        1. housekeeper
          housekeeper 5 February 2014 11: 59
          +10
          And if the opposition candidate wins, the population of the South and East of Ukraine will not recognize him. And all the same Maidan, all the same rake only with other extras. We need a completely new and neutral person who will suit both halves of Ukraine. Otherwise, this "holiday" will never end.
          1. chunga-changa
            chunga-changa 5 February 2014 13: 13
            +5
            Quote: little house
            the population of the South and East of Ukraine does not recognize him. And the same Maidan

            These will not go to the Maidan, they have no time, they work. In addition, the Maidan must be paid generously, who will give the money, Russia?
            1. housekeeper
              housekeeper 5 February 2014 15: 00
              +3
              Quote: chunga-changa
              Quote: little house
              the population of the South and East of Ukraine does not recognize him. And the same Maidan

              These will not go to the Maidan, they have no time, they work. In addition, the Maidan must be paid generously, who will give the money, Russia?

              If an opposition candidate is selected, an association agreement with the EU will be signed immediately (for this they are being shoved). After this, the remnants of the industry will order a long life, and it will be possible to maidan any number of times.
          2. muhomor
            muhomor 5 February 2014 21: 08
            +4
            Offer Lukashenko A.G. fellow
            1. Nikotin13
              Nikotin13 5 February 2014 23: 46
              +6
              If Old Man starts exporting, then he won’t even be able to withstand such tension. The line is unmeasured ... Everyone wants such Old Man, well, at least for a week! laughing
        2. infinite silence ...
          infinite silence ... 5 February 2014 16: 35
          +8
          Quote: chunga-changa
          until they choose who they need.


          This will not happen for a number of understandable reasons ... One of which is the ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT MENTALITY of the inhabitants of the East and the West ... There is no this ephemeral person in nature that will reconcile both sides ... The Bandera monuments will not accept the East ... And the West, in turn, with its hatred of the Donbass, it will always act contrary to even common sense ...
      7. Cherdak
        Cherdak 5 February 2014 12: 58
        +3
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        The main thing is that this is not an attempt to give out wishful thinking ...


        he is so far only wrapping around ...
      8. Rus86
        Rus86 5 February 2014 13: 37
        +1
        and the price of the question arises, about those very conscripts of the Internal Troops of Ukraine and the soldiers of the "Berkut". in politics, the End always justifies the means, but still (the view from the TV, and from far away), but one gets the impression that "these", "gay-fascist optioners, these" Berkut "fighters, and these supporters of the" Party of Regions. " , yes, it's 91 in Moscow? (I'm not currently a fan of the "rain" channel and echa of Moscow ", but for the soldiers faithful to the oath, it's a shame)
      9. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 5 February 2014 14: 03
        +1
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        Yanukovych’s silence with Berkut’s inaction is a manifestation of endurance

        no manifestation of self-control can justify the crowds of unbelted thugs who throw "Molotov cocktails" at Berkut ...

        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        the desire for the "demonstrators" to make mistakes and show their true essence, thereby driving themselves into traps and losing political points.

        yes, they are trapped ...
        only prolongation of the conflict is not a way out of it, it is an entrance to a more complex trap ...
      10. APASUS
        APASUS 5 February 2014 19: 33
        0
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        this is a manifestation of self-control, the main reason for which is the desire for the "demonstrators" to make mistakes and show their true essence, thereby driving themselves into traps and losing political points.

        To some extent, yes!
        But about the possibility of Yanukovych’s victory for the second time - I don’t believe it! The previous victory of Yanukovych is the merit of money of Akhmetov and Co. Vot Vitya and worked out all his presidency before us, this is, by the way, one of the reasons why the western half of the Ukrainian people hung him on a bitch, and the eastern half of the people calmly looked at it! Yanukovych did nothing for the people of Ukraine, and for the state of Ukraine too! The east of Ukraine united around Yanukovych against the nationalists, and not because he trusts him immensely!
        And now the most important thing !!!
        Where will he get the money for another presidential company ?!
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      12. Polovec
        Polovec 5 February 2014 22: 51
        0
        It seems to me that Yanukovych is a weak figure. Is there really no normal leader in Ukraine without a criminal record and ready to adhere to a clearly chosen path? You can’t, like Yanukovych rush ass from chair to chair, while stuffing the pockets of the family and betraying associates. Of course, I don’t know much, but this horse is lame ...
      13. AnaBat
        AnaBat 5 February 2014 23: 37
        +2
        Yanukovych replaced the head of the Counterintelligence Department and the four heads of the SBU in the regions. It seems that Yanuk is not going to surrender his position so simply!
      14. acute
        acute 6 February 2014 11: 47
        +1
        Remember the year 93 and shooting at the white house from tanks. Then America supported Yeltsin, which is why he allowed himself to arrange a massacre in the center of Moscow. At the moment, America does not support Yanukovych, which is why he does not disperse the Maidan. And the talk that he does not want blood is for excuse. His money is in the West, and the West does not support him, that's all
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      16. Stalker
        Stalker 7 February 2014 21: 56
        0
        Not a fact ... At least now the talk that the non-interference of Russia and the silence of Yanukovych with the inaction of the Berkut is a manifestation of self-control, the main reason for which is the desire for the "demonstrators" to make mistakes and show their true essence, seem to be true, thus by doing so they drove themselves into traps and lost political points.
        So far, everything looks so that everything can work out. The main thing is that this is not an attempt to give out wishful thinking ...


        He looked at the photo and did not see the faces of the opposition. Some smug, well-fed pork snouts. Seeing the fall of these hogs, it’s time to pin down the fat and the market. Although there literally their skin will pay back a small part of the enormous damage that Ukraine has done ..
    2. Dangerous
      Dangerous 5 February 2014 07: 28
      +29
      Everything is correct. Yanukovych failed right after the elections, when he deceived those who voted for him in terms of rapprochement with Russia. Ranged like a girl of easy virtue from east to west. And he will not be allowed to hold elections, since the opposition's failure was revealed even when they refused to accept the cabinet of ministers. They are not ready to take responsibility for themselves. The goal of the west is to split Ukraine, for which the Klitschko project was created
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 07: 47
        +18
        Quote: Dangerous
        Yanukovych failed immediately after the election, when he deceived the voters who voted for him in terms of rapprochement with Russia.

        The second rz stupidly they will not believe him, but they will vote for him, so as not to get the president and the government of the three clowns of the maidanut.
        One problem, the elections will not help to solve those problems that are, West and East, as they were divided, they will be so.
        Yes, the point is in them, even if the maidanuts lose, then again screams of fraud. The USA will not recognize the results and everything will start again. Plus, we need money for the elections and money for the economy to last until the elections. Where are they to take?
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 5 February 2014 08: 11
          +8
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Plus, the money is needed for the elections and the money is needed for the economy to last until the elections. Where to get them?

          Good morning Sanya, you can take money from the oligarchy from the GDP, but then the question will give or send tries, after all that Yanuk has done.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 08: 55
            +10
            Quote: ed65b
            , but then the question will give or send tries, after all that Yanuk did

            Yes, Yanukovych is in such a situation that he will now sign any contract with Putin to get the loot. But will he only fulfill it later or say bondage again? Putin is also not a sucker and understands this. In my opinion, now it’s better not to intervene at all. If Yanukovych does not want to end his life in prison, he will begin to restore order in the country. He doesn’t have moves, he doesn’t. Yes, and he’s not much from the maidanutyh differs in that he, that those-all, as one, will run to Moscow with outstretched hands. In short, an eternal farce.
            Edik hi
            1. ed65b
              ed65b 5 February 2014 09: 17
              +7
              Sanya, the Yanuk no longer knows how to get out, turns around like in a frying pan, the situation seems to have stopped, but in reality he only gave the front ones to concentrate the blow of the opposition at the right time and in the right place. Or maybe he just preferences bargains in the west. But in general I agree with you.
            2. Ascetic
              Ascetic 5 February 2014 12: 17
              +16
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Putin is also not a sucker and understands this.

              Hi!
              Russia was supposed to place the Zlard green before the end of the year out of 15. Placed 1 lard. Putin held the rest (do you remember his dialogue with Siluanov, did I put it out somehow?) until Ukraine decided on the government with whom to resolve issues and who would take over obligations on the implementation of contracts concluded earlier. Until that, there will be no money. The same "Naftogaz" was counting on paying off debts to "Gazprom" at the expense of these two Russian money.
              Ashton bluntly said that the EU would not give money, and without money, no one wants to take responsibility for the economy and finances. It's not on the Maidan to shake and drink "Molotov cocktail" while eating tires. So the situation is stalemate, even if there is a default, then Putin again has all the cards in his hands because these 15 lards are placed in Ukrainian debt obligations. Eurobonds, which have state guarantees of repayment not only in money, but also in assets and property. Plus corporate debts of Ukrainian oligarchs. Russian VEB, the figure slipped almost 20 "green". In my opinion, everything has already been sold and pledged, and there is already a struggle who will oust whom Russia West or West Russia. The West has no other methods of ousting Russian capital. Except for the "revolution" and the disintegration of the country in the form in which it exists, so that the puppets who came to power cancel all obligations in relation to Russia, in other words, they "threw" therefore they do not give money and actively are working to escalate the chaos. Russia in this situation, when it practically bought up Ukraine on the vine and put the local oligopoly in a stalemate, ideally needs to save Ukraine from disintegration, localize the Maidan with "soft power" and achieve a sane government that will have to depend on Russian money. then in case of default and disintegration, retain the main industrial regions of the center and the southeast and the Crimea. There is a kind of political judo (no longer chess) - the West is active, pushing, Russia seems to be passive in the stalls, but at any moment it can make one single throw through itself. Oops! And the West again with a face in a tatami smile
              1. olviko
                olviko 5 February 2014 17: 45
                +5
                "West again with a face in tatami"

                Like that .
            3. Zeus
              Zeus 5 February 2014 13: 17
              +3
              The contract has already been signed. 15 billion are allocated in three billion tranches. Before each tranche, Yanukovych must bow and show how the money was invested in the Ukrainian economy. If he drank it or some other scam, they won’t give more money and gas prices will rise to the previous level. Four hundred with something there bucks per thousand cubic meters. Three billion are already in Ukraine.
      2. lukke
        lukke 5 February 2014 09: 30
        +19
        The goal of the West is to split Ukraine, for which the Klitschko
        I don’t think: the West needs all Ukraine, including first of all, its East with its resources, and when divided, it will just along with Crimea send this West to hell. And it turns out that Mr. Klitschko will be able to solemnly hand over to his curators the poor Natsik collective farmers from the western regions of Ukraine along with their farms. And who, sorry, needs this rabble, even if it is anti-Russian? Therefore, the bet was made on the Maidan that the minority, using the president’s impotence and some support from his opponents, usurped power in this turmoil and subjugated the majority throughout the space.
        1. Old scoop
          Old scoop 5 February 2014 13: 07
          +2
          The West wants to tear Ukraine away from the Russia-Ukraine link. Putin, as a geopolitician, understands the tandem is more beneficial. But our "politicians" do not look beyond the next elections, as in the joke "and I would have ruled a hundred rubles that th vtik (ran away)".
        2. lg41
          lg41 5 February 2014 20: 16
          0
          America needs to divide Ukraine into parts. This is the official doctrine.
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    4. SibRUS
      SibRUS 5 February 2014 07: 36
      +16
      Watching how to look at it. Yanukovych may not participate in the elections, just the regionals and the Ukrainian Front will nominate the same Oleg Tsarev, and then yes, the opposition will fail. Naturally, you can start to train in the parliamentary elections, but the result is one. The opposition dug up a hole for themselves.
      1. DEfindER
        DEfindER 5 February 2014 12: 05
        +2
        Quote: SibRUS
        just the regionals and the Ukrainian front will nominate the same Oleg Tsarev, and then yes, the opposition will fail.

        Yes, the person is open and sincere, and the people will unequivocally support him, but he has little experience, especially in the political struggle, there must be a shark ..
      2. Silwestr
        Silwestr 5 February 2014 14: 36
        0
        || just regionals and the Ukrainian front will nominate the same Oleg Tsarev, and then yes, the opposition is dead ///
        Not in a voice but in an eyebrow. laughing
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    6. olviko
      olviko 5 February 2014 07: 44
      +10
      "This is not a strong move by Yanukovych, but his complete failure!"

      And in my opinion, the opposition has a complete failure, now the blind can see that these, as they are called, three sixes are the most natural sixes, an empty place, zero. They are offered a prime minister’s place, they are offered early elections, and what’s the answer? Some naked show-offs! God grant each president to have such a toothless opposition. I don’t know whether Yanukovych himself guessed or suggested who, but he didn’t let these guys down by the way. Besides that, they don’t have any mind, some people will probably have to become participants criminal cases of unrest and coup attempts. It's the same as without a tower ... you need to be in such a way that you get into a shit like that. In short, the 2015 elections Yanukovych secured for himself, unless of course he was killed before that.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 5 February 2014 08: 21
        +1
        Lord- "failure", I mean the loss of initiative, spinelessness, he missed the power, he does not get anything from what he needs (except money from the Russian Federation, or the EU), but the opposition now decides what will happen next.
        Even if it is absolutely bespontovaya.
        Already there are those who will direct it to wherever they need.
        There will be re-elections (he already agrees to this, but at first he proposed the posts, then Azarov removed, for the sake of the opposition, and now he is ready for re-elections.
        And in such a situation, the one who will be imposed wins the election, because Yanukovych has sintered, he is READY to leave.
        He can’t pull out the elections, that's all.
        And you just hope, and hear what you want to believe.
        I would also like Yanukovych to leave everyone there, but this could only be done right away, as they began to throw Molotov into Berkut ...
      2. DMB-78
        DMB-78 5 February 2014 09: 12
        0
        Quote: olviko
        It's the same as without a tower at .. you have to be a house, so that you could get into a shit ...

        and they showed them one candy and said where there are a lot of them and for free. but what and where it happens for free was silent laughing
        1. askort154
          askort154 5 February 2014 10: 40
          +9
          DMB-78 ... and they showed them one candy and said where there are a lot of them and for free. but what and where it happens for free, was silent.

          AND ON THE PHOTO: judging by the faces of the troika, in front of them - McCain pulls something out of his fly.
          1. DMB-78
            DMB-78 5 February 2014 10: 52
            +1
            Quote: askort154
            AND ON THE PHOTO - judging by the faces of the "troika", McCain is unbuttoning his fly in front of them.

            this is what they kept silent about laughing
          2. calocha
            calocha 5 February 2014 11: 05
            +6
            Pulls out of wide legs
            the size of a ... tin can
            People rejoice i am a citizen
            not some citizen!
          3. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 5 February 2014 17: 29
            +3
            Quote: askort154
            AND ON THE PHOTO: judging by the faces of the troika, in front of them - McCain pulls something out of his fly.

            Noooo ...
            This Baroness opened her thumb (in the hope) ... laughing
      3. Letun
        Letun 5 February 2014 14: 19
        +2
        Just kill me, I can't understand how someone can see a smart and strong politician in Yanukovych. He is a rag and a spineless amoeba. He did not "put down" anyone, in your words, only he sank down so that, apart from disgust, it does not cause any emotions. He will not win the elections. This is already a political, stinking corpse.
      4. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 5 February 2014 14: 48
        0
        Quote: olviko
        , ... three sixes and there are the most natural sixes, empty space, zero.


        three sixes-666, nothing like? what
    7. alexdol
      alexdol 5 February 2014 08: 18
      +10
      mirag2 (3) RU "This is not a strong move by Yanukovych, but his complete failure!"
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      The fact that Yanukovych is a worthless politician is already obvious to everyone, but his move is not without meaning, and it seems that it was not him who invented it! The last phrase from the article just speaks of the fidelity of this step!

      Choosing the power always has not the best, but the lesser evil.

      Personally, I am very much in doubt, the figures given for the "nickname", it seems to me that Yanukovych will pick up much more today ...
      1. Niki
        Niki 5 February 2014 10: 47
        0
        The king is played by a retinue.
        Most likely, the real retinue of any president should not be public, since it consists of a very large percentage of employees of various security ... Apparently what is happening, recently among the gray cardinals there has been a radical change in the composition of active participants, but outwardly instead of Yanukovych himself Nobody will put a double now, and it is more convenient for the average person to think that "the president has made a decision ..." and so on.
      2. 31231
        31231 5 February 2014 14: 14
        0
        Personally, I am very much in doubt, the figures given for the "nickname", it seems to me that Yanukovych will pick up much more today ...

        I think the figure is more or less real. For the boxer there are quite a lot of raguls and young animals. Well, of course, women.
        1. oaziss
          oaziss 5 February 2014 15: 06
          0
          Quote: 31231
          For the boxer there are quite a lot of raguls and young animals. Well, of course, women.

          But the electorate of Yanukovych
        2. Vasek
          Vasek 5 February 2014 19: 28
          +1
          Quote: 31231
          For the boxer there are quite a lot of raguls and young animals. Well, of course, women.

          ... and all the LGBT people in Ukraine.
        3. alexdol
          alexdol 5 February 2014 19: 34
          +3
          31231 RU ".. There are a lot of raguli and young animals for a boxer. And of course women too."

          Certainly something is difficult to assert now, but! For example, at my place of work, and I live in Kharkov and work at HARTRON, I don't know anyone who would be for a KNICK! On the contrary, after these events, they do not call him otherwise "UROD"! The women in the shop are not on his side either. And as for young animals, young animals are different too! For example, with all the shortcomings of my son, and he is 22 years old, he and his friends about whom I know, are also not for a KNICK!
      3. Don
        Don 5 February 2014 18: 38
        +1
        Quote: alexdol
        Personally, I am very much in doubt, the figures given for the "nickname", it seems to me that Yanukovych will pick up much more today ...

        I agree. We know how elections are being made in our country. In the first round, I think Yanukovych will gain about 30%. I won’t speak for Klychko, but it seems to me that he will not see more than 15%; rather, Yatsiyyuk will gain about 20%. And if Medvedchuk also goes to the presidency, then I think he will have about 20 percent.
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    8. Arhj
      Arhj 5 February 2014 08: 44
      0
      Quote: mirag2
      No, this is not a strong move of Yanukovych, but his complete failure!

      It all depends on how reliable the numbers are. In the current situation, both sides showed themselves not on the best side, but the "Party of Regions" at least cannot be accused of taking the country apart. People are tired and will vote for certainty. But with certainty, the "opposition" has obvious problems.
      Again, I doubt that the lawlessness in the country added supporters to the banderlog even in the western regions, although they did not start to love Yanukovych either.
      In such a situation, if the "Ukrainian Front", which did not manage to tarnish itself, will be able to take part in the elections, it has every chance to take the votes of the disappointed ones (if, since I do not know if he is a subject entitled to participate in the elections)
    9. avt
      avt 5 February 2014 10: 00
      +5
      Quote: mirag2
      No, this is not a strong move of Yanukovych, but his complete failure!

      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      Is not a fact...

      The most that is a fact. Moreover, everything will repeat itself in this scenario, as on the first Maidan, when the same squeamish Kuchma left. Well remember how even BEFORE the elections Bush junior said that he would only recognize "democratic" elections in which the opposition would win. And how many times did they vote contrary to their "sacred, independent" constitution? Right . Twice according to the law with the victory of Yanukovych and the third time for the "correct, democratic" result approved by the amers. Yanukovych, as expected, was blown away and ready to rebound with the stolen compensation from the failed sale of Ukraine to the European Union, following Azarov somewhere in the Alps. Three rubles of the leaders of the Maydauns is really a disaster. It is urgent, having pulled down his pants for speed, to run to the Washington Regional Committee - a place to bargain in power. And if the Americans order Yulia Grikyants to be released, then they will become completely sad. So this is not a "clever move" of the wise “the politician, and quite his negotiations before surrender on the terms of surrender, bargains for himself the terms of a painless flight from the country with the loot.
      1. optimist
        optimist 5 February 2014 12: 05
        +6
        Quote: avt
        So this is not a "clever move" of a "wise" politician, but quite his negotiations before surrender on the terms of surrender, bargaining for himself the conditions of a painless flight from the country with the loot.

        I'm sure of that too. If a Janek has at least some brains, "he will bounce" - because the fate of Tymoshenko, and even Gaddafi awaits him. After all, even if by some miracle he holds out, he will have to pull Ukraine out of the ass where he and his predecessors pulled it. And this is an unrealistic task. I see, respected members of the forum are almost betting on victory and mocking the opposition "trinity". Relax: everything will be decided in a couple of weeks after 7.02, when our Vovan will have his hands tied with a limpidad. For the main “grandmaster” has calculated everything and rarely makes mistakes. Already a cursory glance at this whole "Maidan history" shows that everything is calculated there to the smallest detail. The "stakes" are too high to be dissuaded. So let's not guess and "break spears" (absolutely nothing really depends on us in this situation) ...
      2. Prorox
        Prorox 5 February 2014 12: 09
        +3
        Quote: avt
        but quite imagine his negotiations before surrender under the terms of delivery


        By 2003-04, the West finally understood "Who is Mr. Putin," the acceleration of the "Ukraine, not Russia" project began, they chose the main Yushchenko, Tymoshenko and Yanukovych, played out the "color revolution", like clockwork (though they missed the third round, In recent years, the Anglo-Saxons have very bad oranzhirovki, but it worked), continuing the Ukrainization of Little Russia with Russian money. Success (the Anglo-Saxons are completely beaten off by the brain), next in line is Russia a super prize, not until Ukraine is a puppet who was re-elected, who went to prison, who went to retirement, everything was according to plan. The crisis was built, the teddy bear was tamed, Putin was forbidden to be elected, doused with shit through their media, but it did not grow together (screwed up again), okay, you can try again, just one thing, but the creation of the Eurasian Union began quickly (action, gives rise to opposition). The West needs the southeast (Westerners will not go anywhere) of Ukraine, they tried out new ones, the split (therefore Yushchenko is retired) has intensified and the desired piece is floating away, so Yanukovych is needed (there are victims of the bloody regime, but there is no bloody dictator, strange) the Anglo-Saxons have time trouble , with a woman with a scythe, it is necessary to decide on a replacement, the show must continue.
    10. AVV
      AVV 5 February 2014 12: 46
      0
      Quote: mirag2
      No, this is not a strong move of Yanukovych, but his complete failure!

      Again, it turns out that he went to the conditions of the Euromaidanists, he now needs to prepare for the events of the overthrow of power that will be undertaken from February 7 Euro-concerned !!! And prepare law enforcement officers and the Army for this !!!
      1. avt
        avt 5 February 2014 13: 22
        +1
        Quote: AVV
        Again it turns out that I went to the terms of the Euromaidanists

        Amendment however - maydaunas are not chapels. When it was necessary, they flew out of the Ministry of Energy faster than a piggy squeal, and by the time the GDP met with the players from Brussels, everyone hid on the team and are still standing at attention.
        Quote: AVV
        And prepare law enforcement officers and the Army for this !!!

        request And who of the generals, after "committing suicide" with two shots to the head from the pistol of the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs during the time of Kuchma-Yanukovichevskaya drain of power during the first Maidan, will fit in for him? to this maydown? Yes, and they are ready NOW, after all that the authorities have done to them, to stand up for this power is not childish ?? Do you think after the statement of the Minister of Defense of Ukraine that the army is not aisles and the statement of the generals about putting things in order are not links of the same chain? You think that this is not an ultimatum Yanukovych that will not support - his own jo .., that is, their money over the hill is more expensive? One to one behavior of the generals in Egypt, after the trip early. General Staff to the Washington Regional Committee during the time of Mubarak.
    11. samoletil18
      samoletil18 5 February 2014 14: 29
      0
      Quote: mirag2
      and his complete failure

      There is a serious plus for Yanukovych in that he is one candidate, and in the opposition at least 3, therefore, even with huge percentages not Yanukovych, these voices will be smeared. Plus, these three candidates will most likely be added by candidates, which facilitates the task for Yanukovych.
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    14. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 5 February 2014 16: 18
      0
      Quote: mirag2
      No, this is not a strong move of Yanukovych, but his complete failure!



      THIS IS A STRAW!

      but - a chance!
      1. alone
        alone 5 February 2014 20: 54
        0
        Whether Yanukovych made a strong move or not, time will tell, but for now it’s just a philistine conversation. Let's wait and see what it will lead to. Yes, by the way, they completely forgot about the Right Force. By the way, they turned out to be the only ones who took responsibility for what was happening. When, as organizers, -the Trinity in every way denied their involvement in the events, and the president was in the hospital)) good politicians.
        1. Vladimir 70
          Vladimir 70 5 February 2014 21: 45
          0
          Trinity is not related to the organization of the Maidan !!!!
  2. Duke
    Duke 5 February 2014 06: 51
    +6
    I believe that the move is absolutely correct. The opposition will not agree among themselves.
    1. Denis
      Denis 5 February 2014 07: 17
      +25
      Quote: Duke
      The opposition will not agree among themselves.

      About the future of Ukrainian oppositionists ..
  3. Ihrek
    Ihrek 5 February 2014 06: 55
    +9
    "The opposition demanded early parliamentary and presidential elections, and now she can get them, but her joyful exclamations are not heard.“They counted on a long confrontation, hoping for possible mistakes on the part of Yanukovych (refusal of early elections, the use of force by a golden eagle). And to score points against this background, which is not yet possible, and the available points are insufficient for success in the elections.
  4. evgenii67
    evgenii67 5 February 2014 06: 55
    +5
    -What is new in Ukraine? - We have elections.
    1. strannik595
      strannik595 5 February 2014 10: 16
      +9
      they have it is not news ..... Ukraine is always pregnant with elections, but can’t give birth to a competent authority, so that without fights, hopak and clownery in the Verkhovna Rada, it can not .....everything is approaching a cesarean section (or amputation?) right along the Dnieper and Sivash Bay
    2. askort154
      askort154 5 February 2014 10: 27
      +3
      evgenii67 ....- What's new in Ukraine? - We have elections.

      Ukraine got into a mess in 1991, so it remains there.
  5. domokl
    domokl 5 February 2014 06: 59
    +2
    A good article. But it seems to me that the Nazis are too idealized. Any step towards the ban of Nazi parties will automatically cause discontent in the west of Ukraine. And if there is a Maidan, we will get a flash of aggression. And the authorities will not be able to restrain this aggression without retaliatory measures.
    In general, it’s not badly invented. Now we’ll clean Kiev and take control of cash flows. What the oligarchs really don’t want ... So you need to pull the rubber and hope that the Maydan will still lose most of the mass supporters ...
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 5 February 2014 07: 05
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      we will receive a flash of aggression. And the authorities will no longer be able to restrain this aggression without retaliatory measures.
      hi Sooner or later, this Caudle will have to be dispersed, but it is better to do this in the presence of the political corpses of the leaders of the Maidan, and not in the presence of "Strong, young, democratic and legitimate oppositionists."
      1. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 5 February 2014 07: 31
        +11
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        legitimate opiates

        The rats start to run, one is already in London ..... damn, I have a terrible deja vu, well, nothing new, all knurled !!! I came to London, I came to London.
        1. Anper
          Anper 5 February 2014 12: 25
          +1
          Quote: Strezhevchanin
          Rats start to run

          Systematically. And not one rat - two Avtomaydanovskie, one of them - in Lithuania, the Right sector - in London, gay - the lamp of Portnikov hides his exact location abroad. Not in one meeting of the opposition in the west Tyagnibok was not seen.
          A recognizable chess player barely noticeably begins to play the endgame.
        2. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
          +4
          Quote: Strezhevchanin
          The rats start to run, one is already in London ..... damn, I have a terrible deja vu, well, nothing new, all knurled !!! I came to London, I came to London.


          Stole, drank - to London wassat
          1. Strezhevchanin
            Strezhevchanin 5 February 2014 14: 14
            +8
            Quote: Salavat EMERCOM
            Stole, drank - to London

            The menu is really poor:
            1) Ice ax
            2) Polonium
            3) Scarf
            all at a rate, with confiscation, without tax am
      2. domokl
        domokl 5 February 2014 08: 13
        +3
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        it’s necessary to overclock this

        In order to clear the Maidan a couple of hours and a dozen snekers are enough ... This is just simple. But what to do with the audience? Who are around the Maidan? They will fall under the bullets ... And then for a long time it will take to figure out who and what ..
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        2. alexng
          alexng 5 February 2014 08: 31
          +15
          No need for snipers, but simply close the transport system for feeding the maydanuts. those. there is to arrange cordons and not to start up buses with a change of "dumb" and the entire Maidan will suffocate in its own crap.
          1. domokl
            domokl 5 February 2014 08: 52
            +3
            On the Maidan, no one hides this, there is a combat and hunting weapon and it will be used ...
            1. kotvov
              kotvov 5 February 2014 12: 29
              0
              On the Maidan, no one hides this, there is a combat and hunting weapon and it will be used ...
              no one will shoot the order. And the order can only follow from the usa regional committee. I don’t think they will decide on it.
              1. Vasek
                Vasek 5 February 2014 21: 22
                0
                Quote: kotvov
                no one will shoot the order. And the order can only follow from the usa regional committee. I don’t think they will decide on it.

                They also thought about Saakashvule - he won’t decide.
    2. Arhj
      Arhj 5 February 2014 08: 47
      +3
      Quote: domokl
      But it seems to me that the Nazis are too idealized. Any step towards the prohibition of the Nazi parties will automatically cause discontent in the west of Ukraine. And if there is a Maidan we will receive a flash of aggression. And the authorities will not be able to restrain this aggression without retaliatory measures.

      Maybe it will be so. But early elections will allow to win the main thing - time, including for Russia. And in any protest, the main thing is the pace, if the pace is lost, the protest fizzles out.
      1. domokl
        domokl 5 February 2014 09: 02
        +3
        I agree about the pace ... Already now it is clear that the Maidan is starting to tear each other ... But for now I will draw a futuristic picture, but soon a real continuation of the process is possible ...
        So, the elections can be held somewhere in May-June. It is simply technically not possible earlier. During this time, the West and the opposition are seeking to participate in the elections of Yulia Tymoshenko. And the result immediately becomes predictable. But Julia, unlike men with talking heads, a woman is tough, even cruel.
        There should be a ban on the activities of the Nazis, but on the other hand, the Communists and the regionals ... The people, it seems to me. Will only be for ...
        It seems to me now they are playing like that ... Apart from Tymoshenko, in Ukraine there is no leader capable of putting things in order.
    3. Old scoop
      Old scoop 5 February 2014 13: 28
      +3
      From the Western side, nothing but a stink is heard, constantly whining about some kind of independence, oppression. Forgot how were under the Poles? What the hell is history and culture? Writers and poets on the fingers of two hands can be counted, always torn by strong neighbors. Yes, there is folklore, national cuisine, my own language, clothes at last, but my opinion will not allow independent Ukraine to be. And in this case, Russia is preferable to the West. You don’t need to go far for an example - the Baltic countries, ordinary people have already eaten independence to the ears. The USSR developed its republics, and what did the European Union build?
  6. Nitarius
    Nitarius 5 February 2014 07: 09
    +10
    I’m not at all enthusiastic about Yanukovych ... well, I feel that VOVA PUTIN'S LITERATURE policy is behind him!
    So .... the game went according to his rules!
    NDA PUTIN was clearly a CHESS champions! skillfully plays HIGH politics!
    Well, one hope for the people and his healthy reasoning!
  7. Same lech
    Same lech 5 February 2014 07: 10
    +4
    The opposition of UKRAINE does not need elections, but power, so even if early elections are held in favor of YANUKOVICH, the situation will remain the same - there will still be troublemakers in Ukraine - FORMER CHARACTERS - ACTORS - triumvirate Klitschko-Yatsenyuk-TUGGER.

    This situation will persist due to the intervention of Western countries in the affairs of UKRAINE — and until this ends the end, and the edge of the conflict will not be visible.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 5 February 2014 07: 31
      +3
      And the West still intervenes. During the Olympics, Putin’s hands will be tightly bound, so American ships are planning to enter the Black Sea at this time
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 5 February 2014 09: 18
        +3
        Quote: Dangerous
        American ships at this time in the Black Sea plan to enter

        well come in and what? will support maidan tomahawks? nobody will let them into the territorial waters of Ukraine
      2. olviko
        olviko 5 February 2014 10: 56
        +21
        "American ships are planning to enter the Black Sea at this time"
        1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
          0
          Meanwhile, Deputy Tsarev said: "The landing of American soldiers has already begun in Lvov." According to the parliamentarian, all this is presented as preparation for the joint exercises of NATO and Ukraine troops officially scheduled for March. Supposedly, it is necessary to prepare people and equipment for the exercises in advance.

          BABAH!
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    3. Arhj
      Arhj 5 February 2014 08: 52
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The opposition of UKRAINE does not need elections, but power, so even if early elections are held in favor of YANUKOVICH, the situation will remain the same - there will still be troublemakers in Ukraine - FORMER CHARACTERS - ACTORS - triumvirate Klitschko-Yatsenyuk-TUGGER.

      Everything is correct, but having won the elections, and today he will definitely win them, Yanukovych will again receive the legitimation of power, showing that the support of the people, which the opposition claims, is actually on the side of the government. Opposition actions on the contrary will become illegitimate. And screams of total falsification will not help, especially if the gap is solid
  8. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 5 February 2014 07: 17
    +6
    The move is quite predictable. It’s simple, stupid to show everyone that all this mouse fuss was started for the sake of fuss. No one can clearly articulate any understandable (legal) requirements for everyone, the president has already made several moves towards it, and what steps have the opposition taken !? In the end, he can only offer them fried nails, ales.
  9. ars_pro
    ars_pro 5 February 2014 07: 18
    +10
    In general, the move is literate, let's see what happens, even if the Maydanians win, the southeast now probably will fundamentally prevent the West from taking what they want!
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 5 February 2014 07: 33
      +3
      "Let's see what happens, even if the Maidanites win, the southeast will probably not allow the west to take what they want in principle!" So what do you think will come of it? And there will be at least a split, and in neutral regions, such as Kiev or Vinnitsa - it is quite possible that a bloody
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 5 February 2014 15: 03
        +2
        It is a long time ago ,, like Kiev and Vinnitsa "have you become neutral ???
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  10. Rinat 1
    Rinat 1 5 February 2014 07: 30
    +9
    Good move. Natsik is no place among people.
  11. svskor80
    svskor80 5 February 2014 07: 31
    +7
    Yes, for Yanukovych this is quite a worthy way out of the situation. Even if he loses the election, one can always say how democratic I am, I gave power by the will of the people. And the so-called opposition, apparently the opposition, wants to stay on the content of the US budget. The fact that these people will resolve the economic problems of Ukraine and improve the lives of people I do not believe. Rather, another thoughtless liberalization, corruption of new officials and deterioration of relations with Russia will finish the once richest land to the end.
    1. Vasek
      Vasek 5 February 2014 21: 54
      0
      Quote: svskor80
      The fact that these people will resolve the economic problems of Ukraine and improve the lives of people I do not believe.

      Especially from Klitschka with his bone head, a glorious economist will succeed.
      Yes, all three of them have faces of the philosopher-thinkers! recourse
  12. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 5 February 2014 07: 37
    +4
    from the Don.
    And what did Yanuka have to do? Any forceful effect on the banderlogs and the trinity would cause confiscation: honestly earned money: if Yanuca wins the elections, their West of Ukraine will not recognize. And everything will return to its original, stalemate position.
  13. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 5 February 2014 07: 38
    +1
    This is not chess, gentlemen, it is immoral to play with the fates and lives of people and at the same time call their actions a "strong move". It was necessary from the beginning to disperse the radicals and block the supply of the fooled crowd and Bandera rabble to the Maidan. That would be a strong move. The people of the Maidan and other shocks are not needed, he needs stability, salaries and pensions paid on time, and the chatter is good in the Ukrainian parliament. Let them clean each other's hari on the air: both the people are fun and safe for the whole society.
    1. Midshipman
      Midshipman 5 February 2014 09: 59
      +5
      If you have the choice to kill the bandit, let the victim die, or use intelligence and cunning to keep both of them alive, which will you choose? This is a "strong move". I cannot imagine a more moral position, if its mention here is generally appropriate.
    2. Vasek
      Vasek 5 February 2014 21: 58
      0
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      Let them clean each other’s hari on the air: it’s both fun and safe for the whole society.

      And that's what they do. Chernomyrdin said: "Parliament is not a place for discussion!" laughing
  14. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 5 February 2014 07: 41
    +4
    In this situation, elections are the best way out. But why should this situation have been created? The Maidan had to be dispersed in the early days.
  15. makarov
    makarov 5 February 2014 07: 52
    +3
    Seeing and observing the situation in the country, I want to rephrase the title of the material to: “Yanukovych made a strong move,” he put it in his pants!
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 5 February 2014 08: 16
      +1
      It seems different if it says at least something and gives at least some signs of life. In the early elections, as in any election, sabotage cannot be avoided; this is, like Assad, to leave.
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  16. Yaroslav
    Yaroslav 5 February 2014 07: 56
    +16
    Yanuk will not be able to return his face; it is too dirty with dirt. We need a candidate from the east and pro-Russian, then the victory will be his.
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 5 February 2014 08: 54
      0
      A new leader is needed, but so far it is only about parliamentary elections.
    2. olviko
      olviko 5 February 2014 11: 22
      +2
      "Yanuca will not be able to get his face back, it is too dirty with mud. We need a candidate from the east and a pro-Russian one, then the victory will be his."

      Maybe yes, maybe not. After Hrushevsky, many asked the question: “What is worse, Yanukovych or what is happening now.” Maybe after January 19, for the East and South of Ukraine, he became a leader in the fight against the “orange plague?” So far, one thing is clear - the opposition lost the Maidan It will not be possible to return people to faith in the old Maidan, because from a symbol of popular will it has turned into a symbol of violence and pogroms! But Yanukovych benefited from everything that happened.
    3. DEfindER
      DEfindER 5 February 2014 12: 09
      0
      Quote: Yaroslav
      We need a candidate from the east and pro-Russian, then the victory will be his.

      Oddly enough, Yanuk was just like that in the election, but then for some reason he turned upside down .. Such a suspicion that the president decides nothing in Ukraine, like in the USA ..
  17. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 5 February 2014 07: 59
    +4
    Well, at least there was a hope that there would be no civil war. Anyway, Neither Gayrope nor the United States will have grounds and reasons to use force to “defend” the OPPO.
  18. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 5 February 2014 08: 02
    +1
    To say one thing, this is just a concussion, it is necessary to call elections, specifically set the date. And it turns out like in youngsters, they are afraid of each other, but there are no actions.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 5 February 2014 09: 25
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      set deadlines specifically.

      and the term is known. after the olympiad
  19. ed65b
    ed65b 5 February 2014 08: 14
    +1
    In the photo, Yatsenyuk stands as Ulyanov-Lenin, stick a beard and put on his cap and take off his glasses, and two bouncers behind. Or maybe it's their future laughing
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 5 February 2014 09: 27
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      . Or maybe it's their future

      in prisons and links? laughing
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 5 February 2014 12: 36
        0
        Do you doubt where they will be after this mess? One in Germany, the other in London, the third where they will be sent.
  20. zveroboy61
    zveroboy61 5 February 2014 08: 19
    +1
    If there is an election, then the oppositionists have already started an election campaign, "demonstration", on the Maidan.
  21. Vladimir T
    Vladimir T 5 February 2014 08: 30
    +7
    In 2004, when Yanukovych won the election, he was able to convince him that he had lost it. As a result, the third round of elections and the victory of Yushchenko (though not without the help of Kuchma).

    In 2014 he was convinced that a bunch of Natsyks are people. Again the elections ... and where is the guarantee that a handful of Natsyks will agree with their results and the rallies will stop?

    If Ukraine is allowed to mutilate the Berkut and the Interior Ministry fighters with impunity, I don’t even understand how they will defend the members of the election commissions, who, I have no doubt, will be attacked by the “opposition” on the ground. I don’t see any, yet, victory for Yanukovych.
  22. JonnyT
    JonnyT 5 February 2014 08: 37
    +5
    And who said that he will win the election ??? He does not suit anyone, neither west nor east!
    And what will prevent the Maydan in case of their failure to sing an old song about violations and fraud in the elections ??? The EU and the US will support their tame monkeys and will not recognize the election results, and then Yanukovych will become completely not legitimate and illegal!
    The only plus from this statement is the time gained and the Maidan will now have to open even more, their trumps are melting before our eyes .... they have less and less room for maneuver, their puppeteers are getting more and more out of the shadows, on which their same g @ in0!
  23. navy1301
    navy1301 5 February 2014 08: 41
    +1
    "I see I do not see" ....... in order to win, it is not necessary to build up your potential, sometimes you just need to lose bloodlessly, step back in order to give momentum to the one walking forward, and substitute your foot for example. Russia thus won all wars (not about civil)
    We all saw the faces of all the main characters and I think we did not observe any particular emotions from the leaders of Russia and Ukraine.
  24. Pharao7766
    Pharao7766 5 February 2014 08: 44
    +7
    A strong move is hard to disperse all this riffraff, enter an emergency, put the top for an attempted coup.
    But then you can already talk about early elections.
    And so this is exactly what the West generally sought.

    Py.Sy. I agree with Alexander Romanov - no election will solve the problem.
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 5 February 2014 12: 15
      +1
      Quote: Pharao7766
      A strong move is hard to disperse all this riffraff, enter an emergency, put the top for an attempted coup.

      I think that’s exactly what would raise Yanuk’s rating at times and ensure his convincing victory in the new election ..
  25. ed65b
    ed65b 5 February 2014 08: 44
    +4
    Quote: SibRUS
    Watching how to look at it. Yanukovych may not participate in the elections, just the regionals and the Ukrainian Front will nominate the same Oleg Tsarev, and then yes, the opposition will fail. Naturally, you can start to train in the parliamentary elections, but the result is one. The opposition dug up a hole for themselves.

    Tsarev personally impresses me. On the blue screens of Russia constantly appears, but is there on Ukrainian TV? Yes, and maybe Tymoshenko should be let out, let the electorate pull away from three piglets, although here the grandmother said for two. Julia Baba will take it away and defeat everyone. in comparison with the regionals, she is a politician in plain sight, so to speak. On the other hand, Tymoshenko got along well with GDP, better than GDP with Yanuk.
    1. olviko
      olviko 5 February 2014 11: 25
      0
      "He constantly appears on the blue screens of Russia, but is there on Ukrainian TV?"

      Elections have turned into opinion polls revolving around triviality and depending on how someone looks on television. The elections are already beginning to be seen as replacing one gang of crooks with another gang of crooks. ”
      Lester Turrow, The Future of Capitalism
  26. both s69
    both s69 5 February 2014 08: 44
    +1
    I do not know. It seems to me all the same that Ukraine is now calm before the storm. Our Western "friends" (and "girlfriends") are most likely calculating options for a new round of large-scale destabilization of the country. As for the "strong" move of Yanukovych ... Perhaps it would be more correct to say a strong move (if it really was) GDP. Janek is a politically frustrated player. (yes fans of the Party of Regions of Ukraine forgive me). To save Ukraine from a split after the entire "package of ONGOING events" seems to me a difficult task even for the GDP, although ... miracles DO happen.
    PS. Now the main task for all patriotic forces in Ukraine and in Russia, in my opinion, should be to prevent a civil war. It seems that our "friends and girlfriends" are pushing the people of Ukraine towards a similar scenario.hi
    1. infinite silence ...
      infinite silence ... 6 February 2014 06: 52
      0
      Quote: both-with 69
      it is to a similar scenario that our "friends and girlfriends" are pushing the people of Ukraine


      They are working on options ... Lviv entrepreneurs are already refusing to pay taxes to the state budget ... Eastern Ukraine is starting to complain ... Not only are they subsidized, they are also in a pose ...
      The task of preserving the integrity of the country is becoming more and more difficult with every prolonged day!
  27. both s69
    both s69 5 February 2014 08: 54
    +1
    Yanukovych made a strong move - he let him in his pants!
    Somehow you are too bodily expressed. lol
  28. Sanyht
    Sanyht 5 February 2014 08: 57
    +1
    Yushchenko on the plane of the President of Ukraine demanded the GOLDEN DOOR HANDLES and the GOLDEN UNITAZ, - this one went even further: the whole country is working for the Presidential Administration ... and this is with the complete poverty of the people?
  29. both s69
    both s69 5 February 2014 08: 58
    0
    Quote: ed65b
    Yes, and maybe it’s worth Tymoshenko to release, let the electorate pull away for three piglets,

    Good idea. + laughing I liked about the piglets.
  30. Evgen77
    Evgen77 5 February 2014 09: 01
    +2
    And again in Ukraine, extraordinary "real correct, recognized by the whole world" presidential elections. It seems they took place ...
    Even if there are elections, Yanukovych will win. People will vote for him. People do not know what will happen during the government if the so-called "opposition leaders" win. And so at least some kind of life can improve. But if Yanek will again be a "bolt" to lay down "on his country, then he will not get off with a" peaceful meeting ". It will puff so that it will not seem a little.
    1. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 5 February 2014 09: 20
      +6
      Even if there are elections, Yanukovych will win. People will vote for him. People do not know what will happen during the government if the so-called "opposition leaders" win
      Lousy won’t win the election. And these three clowns will fly by. The State Department will push Petruha-chocolate and is likely to push through .... which is very bad.
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 5 February 2014 11: 05
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir 70
        The State Department will push Petruha-chocolate and is likely to push through .... which is very bad.

        will not. He has a business in Russia. which means he is vulnerable to Russia
        1. Vladimir 70
          Vladimir 70 5 February 2014 19: 13
          +2
          The Maidan is paid by Petya; three clowns are not related to the Maidan.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 5 February 2014 20: 21
            +2
            Quote: Vladimir 70
            The Maidan is paid by Petya; three clowns are not related to the Maidan.

            Paid ... Hryvnia dive ahead of the ruble.
            1. Vladimir 70
              Vladimir 70 5 February 2014 21: 46
              0
              Petya do not care about the hryvnia.
            2. 31231
              31231 5 February 2014 22: 44
              +3
              Paid ... Hryvnia dive ahead of the ruble.


              I suppose that the ruble was specifically omitted. To increase the demand for the products of their enterprises, as well as to cover the alarmists. The Russian ruble is easy to stabilize, there are more than enough currency reserves.
              But the hryvnia, alas, is independent and uncontrollable. That dives with Ukraine.
  31. brainkiller
    brainkiller 5 February 2014 09: 03
    +4
    Quote: kartalovkolya
    It was necessary to initially disperse the radicals and block the supply of fooled crowds and Bandera rabble to the Maidan. That would be a strong move.

    the strong move was that now the mass of this fooled crowd is several times smaller, and it is not known how many lives Berkut saved by his stamina.
  32. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 5 February 2014 09: 05
    +1
    I would very much like to believe that everything really looks as presented in the article.
    As usual: wait and see.
  33. siberalt
    siberalt 5 February 2014 09: 16
    +6
    A strong move is when there is a choice of moves. Yanukovych has no choice. All the previous moves only tightened the loop on it. To count on the fact that Yanukovych will be re-elected only out of protest against the Banderaites is also naive. He's sick of everyone. Society is red-hot and split. Healthy forces are not structured. In the current situation, elections are tantamount to a civil war, and their results will be considered as "elections on blood" and no one will recognize them. But there is no alternative. Alas!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 5 February 2014 11: 16
      +2
      Quote: siberalt
      . Yanukovych has no choice.

      "The hunted beast is dangerous!"
  34. Stinger
    Stinger 5 February 2014 09: 25
    +4
    What are the choices? Rabbit will come out and announce, as we have Nemtsov, that the elections are not fair, everything is on the Maidan! And start over. Wimps have no strong moves.
  35. kind
    kind 5 February 2014 09: 26
    +5
    Yanukovych needed to calculate the situation 2 years ago. The opposition had to be knocked out even then, and there was no need to play "friends" with America. As a politician, he is nothing.
  36. philip
    philip 5 February 2014 09: 38
    +3
    There was such a Roman commander, Fabius Maximus the Counter, he managed to win the battle practically without fighting, due to maneuver. For this, the counter earned the nickname, which means the procrastinator. IF Yanukovych is such, honor and praise, if not - cometaries are superfluous.
    PS GLORY TO BERKUT
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 5 February 2014 09: 58
      +5
      Quote: Philip
      he managed to win battles practically without fighting, due to maneuver.

      this is more likely to be related to Putin
  37. kirgudu
    kirgudu 5 February 2014 09: 53
    0
    In my opinion, the only force in which the rolls do not tremble is the Golden Eagle along with the citizens. All politicians in Ukraine are dependent on the West, therefore they cannot act.
  38. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 5 February 2014 09: 54
    0
    So the elections can be declared rigged and everything will start in a new way, only one more reason to blame the authorities will be added.
  39. DMB-78
    DMB-78 5 February 2014 09: 57
    +5
    yes when Ukraine is tired of maidan yes choose ??? yes, if you calculate how much money was spent on all these Maidan and elections, you could raise your economy and not go around the world with outstretched hands
    1. AnaBat
      AnaBat 5 February 2014 21: 01
      0
      Looks profitable maidan, but afford to poke money! Nobody thinks about the people! Use the Ukrainian people for their own purposes, buy for the hryvnia, and they are happy for free Maydan!
  40. Aeneas
    Aeneas 5 February 2014 10: 21
    +2
    Yanukovych may be ahead of Klitschko, or Poroshenko by a tenth of a percent, according to social surveys. But the elections in Ukraine take place in 2 rounds. In the second round, Fedrych crushingly loses to all the opponents, maybe even Tyagnibok. The authorities in general, and the President in particular, in general have lost legitimacy in the eyes of Ukrainians, this is evidenced by the level of trust expressed in social surveys. And early elections are a civilized way out and a courageous decision of Yanukovych (if he decides). At the time, Kravchuk did so, and lost, as well as Saakashvili, who won the election. Yanukovych has everything under control: money, security forces, courts, the majority of the Rada. He has an achievement - the normalization of relations with Russia. Please go ahead, which is something they are afraid of.
    1. Anper
      Anper 5 February 2014 12: 37
      +2
      Quote: Aeneas
      Yanukovych may be ahead of Klitschko, or Poroshenko by a tenth of a percent, according to social surveys.

      And who conducts these polls and then throws them into the media? I remember that almost a year before the current events Vitalik was blown away by high ratings - for no reason, now it’s clear why. There is an artificial game and Boxer himself with artificial brains.
      1. Aeneas
        Aeneas 6 February 2014 00: 07
        0
        Under the control of Yanyka, the main electronic media (zombie creator): Inter, Ukraine, First. Pinchuk's media (Novy, STB, ICTV) are neutral, Kolomoisky (1 + 1) and Poroshenko (5th) for the opposition. Half of sociology (Kopatko and Bekeshkina) is also under Yanuk. They give the same survey results, with a correlation of a fraction of a percent in favor of the boss.
  41. morpogr
    morpogr 5 February 2014 10: 25
    +1
    Elections in Ukraine will not decide what the split was and will remain, or maybe only intensify. It is necessary to change the country's structure to federal. So that the regions can pursue a more independent policy, both legislative and external, and of course financial, then then the subsidized west of Ukraine will understand that they’re not going to feed them anymore and it’s time to live within our means.
  42. OPTR
    OPTR 5 February 2014 10: 34
    +4
    Elections can also be seen as a military operation in the light of current events.
    How are you supposed to ensure a calm vote count?
    The capture of regional administrations in the western regions shows the presence there of a good organization of the opposite side. Is there anything to answer or will they themselves appoint the number of votes?
    How will campaigning be conducted if "all media are bought"? Will the points of the program reach the addressees or is it just the fear of radicals?
    And finally, the same question, what about the "positive part" of the program if elections are called?
    In my personal opinion, the president could "fulfill the will of the people" in the hope of reducing the influence of the oligarchs, their influence on the economy, and the fight against corruption.
    We take a couple of oligarchs who pour money into the Maidan and provide the media and are demonstratively fighting their offshore, etc. We present to the people what the people, as the media say, wanted. But I'm afraid that such a task is not for this person.
  43. Saburo
    Saburo 5 February 2014 10: 36
    0
    I don’t know how Yanukovych was going to win the election if he ran for the Party of Regions which is banned in a number of western regions of Ukraine? Not to mention the parliamentary elections. All this will only strengthen the split in the East and the West. Now, any means of stabilization, starting from the dispersal of the Maidan and the complete ban of any nationalist parties, ending with the referendum on the return of the 2004 constitution and early elections, will aggravate the situation. It is too late.
    1. polkovnik manuch
      polkovnik manuch 5 February 2014 11: 53
      0
      It may well, only for this it is necessary in the eastern, southeastern regions to legally prohibit all parties and movements supporting the "Banderlog", Geyropa "kicks up" a little and will shut up.
      1. Saburo
        Saburo 5 February 2014 16: 32
        0
        Mmm ... Then does it make sense to hold elections at all? Western regions will never support Yanukovych and any nominee from the Party of Regions. Crimea and most eastern regions will not support candidate Freedom or other nationalists. If the elections nevertheless pass and Yanukovych or someone close to him wins, in Lviv they will immediately declare the elections illegitimate, if the nationalist wins, then exactly the same reaction will be in the Crimea and most likely there will be a lot of rest in the east. In both cases, chaos and political instability will only increase.

        As for me, the moment when it was possible to fix everything, when Ukraine could fully preserve its sovereignty, and Russia could get the maximum benefit from it, has long passed. Moreover, this moment was most likely somewhere before the first Orange Revolution.
  44. alpenstock
    alpenstock 5 February 2014 10: 40
    0
    and then the elections will become illegitimate - and then what?
  45. Kowalsky
    Kowalsky 5 February 2014 10: 42
    +2
    Yanukovych can still walk? :) He and the concept of "strong move" are simply incompatible. He did what he had to do. And by the way, he did not, but simply said. He talked a lot.
    And regarding the opposition elections, I will repeat the Nazi Tyagniboka again: "We do not need elections, because we cannot win them."
  46. Klim podkova
    Klim podkova 5 February 2014 10: 42
    +4
    19,8 versus 19,1 (less than 1 percent!) Is a very minor gap, which, with proper information policy, can easily be eliminated during the elections. And even if this gap is not overcome by the opposition, who knows how the remaining 80% will speak when the day comes to come to the ballot boxes? So what kind of confident coming victory for Yanukovych in question?

    Yes, a pack of Natsiks have compromised themselves, but there is still Yulia, there is Kuchma, Kravchuk has not died yet. Who is stopping them from nominating themselves? Someone else may appear unaccounted for. Maybe the main task of the trinity (Klitschko & Company) is to clear a place for the "dark horse"? If Yanyk, as before, went in the wake of EU policy, no one would have heard of the Maidan. But Yanyk kicked up - and Europe is changing the president in Ukraine for a more compliant one.

    Well, let's say Yanukovych wins. Is this the president that Russia needs? The ideal option would be for a new leader, fostered by the rebellious Eastern regions, to appear in Ukraine on a protest wave. Which in its program would have proclaimed: "Banderovtsy - to prison, and the customs checkpoints on the Russian-Ukrainian border will be demolished with bulldozers." So where is he? Hey!
  47. Mviktor
    Mviktor 5 February 2014 10: 43
    0
    consolidation of the south-east of Ukraine in the fight against the neo-Nazi Bandera "pro-European" movement, and Yanuk will not be able to return his face, it is too dirty with dirt. We need a candidate from the east and pro-Russian, then the victory will be his. Building of the Ukrainian front.

    Yanukovych will win the election and will again wag both ours and yours, you won’t leave your grandmother abroad, and he depends heavily on the Jews of the oligarchs who torn the country apart. We need a new candidate with whom, with the help of Russia and Belarus, would revive the great Ukrainian Rus
    1. olviko
      olviko 5 February 2014 11: 59
      0
      "Yanukovych will again wag his backside and ours and yours, you will not leave your grandmother abroad"

      The West, of course, can arrest Yanukovych’s accounts, but ... It’s not for nothing that Yanukovych is delaying time, I think, including in order to resolve this issue. For this, there are offshore companies, for example, in Greece. The FSB has accounts there and if they help Yanukovych with this matter, as they did in Cyprus for some comrades, then Fedorych wagging backwards will not be very handy.
  48. The gentleman
    The gentleman 5 February 2014 10: 51
    0
    The course is certainly good. And even taking into account that Yanukovych will go forward, the author noted one important point. The opposition will not recognize the elections! There will be clashes and there will already be passions between citizens. And the West, as always, will support the minority. Yanukovych needs to be stronger, tougher. otherwise he will have to leave
  49. ing
    ing 5 February 2014 10: 53
    0
    It seems to me that all the talk about Yanukovych’s strong progress is ... wishful thinking ... in the EU, the oligarchs from the Donbass, who are already selling metal and coke fertilizers and other semi-finished products there, want them first. For them, the abolition of duties is a gain and they are not afraid of competition since dirty production in the EU is very expensive, therefore the media are on the side of the Maidan (see who the owner is). No election will help except the victory of the opposition they will not be recognized and will be even cooler because of fraud.
    Russia should prepare for the worst option-a section with all the ensuing cries of the West about occupation and the like (recall 08 08 08) but no other is visible. The BANDERLOGS 'brains are panicked until fully prepared to fight by any means and they will stop only after the complete destruction of the current state of Ukraine or their destruction.
  50. shelva
    shelva 5 February 2014 11: 00
    0
    Nothing "strong" is visible in this move. From whom everyone learns that the elections were held "democratically", that the vote count was not falsified, and so on. - from the same West, which will never recognize the victory of Yanukovych. And again the Maidan - based on the results of the "wrong" elections.