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US provoke Russia to an arms race

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US provoke Russia to an arms race

The United States has stepped up the deployment of a missile defense system in Europe. At the same time, Washington is very concerned about the modernization of the Russian Armed Forces.


In the next two years, four destroyers of the missile defense (ABM) of the US Navy will be deployed to protect Europe from a missile attack in the sea areas of the Old World. The first of these days - the destroyer Donald Cook, equipped with the Aegis anti-missile system, headed for the Rota naval base in Spain.

Informing this news during the Munich security conference, Pentagon chief Chuck Hagel also said that two days earlier he had encouraged Poland with the US readiness to deploy missile defense elements here. Global challenges are addressed to Europe and the United States from the Middle East and North Korea. And in these monstrous levels of tension, Chuck Hagel noted, countries like China and Russia are modernizing their armed forces, also "challenging defensive partnerships around the world."

The fact that the deployment of the US missile defense system in Europe has long and more than reasonably worried Russia was lowered by the Pentagon chief in his speech. The fact is that the missile defense system is a kind of “sacred cow” for the United States, explains Pavel Zolotarev, deputy director of the Institute for the USA and Canada. The very issue of missile defense itself gives impetus to the development of science in a very wide spectrum, both fundamental and applied.

According to Zolotarev, any attraction of budget funds in the field of missile defense brings results. However, not in the sense that it is possible to create an effective missile defense system, it is an unrealistic task, the expert said.

"They understand this perfectly well and do not set out to create a missile defense system capable of reflecting a massive missile strike. As an example, I constantly cite (such a fact): the first stage of the Star Wars program at the time of Reagan allowed the Internet to be brought to the global level. the fact that it was actively developed under the Star Wars program. What new technologies may emerge now is difficult to say. But in order to achieve the goal set — to maintain our technological superiority over all — it’s necessary ational invest in missile defense system. But it is still necessary to have a reason to convince their voters to invest their money in missile defense. So if it were not for Iran and North Korea, it would be necessary to invent them. "



At the same time, budget investments in missile defense, and therefore in advanced branches of science and technology, are largely capitalized. Business is involved in military projects through actions. So one should hardly worry that the missile defense will destroy the United States, Zolotarev believes. And, in addition, for the European Union, as part of NATO, the missile defense program is also of practical practical importance for the formation of an integrated control system for both air defense and missile defense. Such a system, if necessary, will allow you to deploy mobile systems such as "Patriot", their counterparts of the sea-based in the right quantity and where necessary. The control system is the most important thing, says Pavel Zolotarev.

The European milestone of the US global anti-missile defense system does not meet its officially declared purpose, says Vladimir Evseev, director of the Center for Socio-Political Research. Because, according to him, neither Iran, nor the DPRK, even more, do not have missiles today that could really threaten Europe and the United States.

"The weapons of the Islamic Republic of Iran are liquid rockets of the type" Gadr-1 "," Shehab-3M ". These missiles have a range of not more than one thousand six hundred kilometers. A priori, these missiles cannot pose any threat to European states. At present, The Islamic Republic of Iran continues to work on creating a Sajil-2 solid-fuel rocket, but the timing for adopting this rocket is not clear. For at least two years, there have been no flight tests of this rocket, so to say that this rocket will be Yata soon adopted, apparently, it is not necessary. "



Under these conditions, it is obvious that the United States is deploying a missile defense system in Europe with the goal of possible deterrence of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Evseev notes. The missile defense destroyers deployed at military bases in Europe pose a potential threat for the interception of Russian ground-based and sea-based intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), the expert is convinced.

At first, Moscow reacted rather reservedly to the US missile defense program in Europe. For example, it put into operation new radar stations such as the Voronezh DM. But today, Russia is forced to create a new heavy rocket, develop a combat railway missile complex, and also build up its arsenal of Topol-M and Yars-type ICBMs. It turns out that the United States and NATO are pushing Russia to take military-technical measures to contain the West.

Thus, the arms race is unwinding, summarizes Vladimir Evseev. And until the West sees Russia as an equal partner, it will be impossible to say the creation of a common security system between the Russian Federation and NATO.

Meanwhile, the activation of the Euro-PRO program was officially commented on by the Russian Foreign Ministry. Recall that the head of the Foreign Affairs Department of the Russian Federation, Mikhail Ulyanov, did not rule out that with the further development of the missile defense system, Russia will take advantage of the right to withdraw from the Treaty on Strategic Offensive Arms. The chances of avoiding such a scenario depend on the political will of the United States.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 6 February 2014 15: 56
    +20
    The US is provoking Russia into an arms race — IT HAS ALREADY BEEN GOING ONLY according to our rules — we don’t have to chase super-expensive laser systems with a cheaper and more practical answer to confuse the US MILITARY MACHINE.

    For example, to deprive the United States of its eyes and ears by undermining several nuclear warheads in satellite orbit.

    Or arrange something similar near tectonic faults off the coast of the USA. PROBLEMS FOR THE USA will be agromadic.
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 6 February 2014 16: 10
      +18
      I agree. So many years have passed, and the Americans can’t do anything new. Stamps are the same as 20 and 50 years ago.
      Americans behave like a scorcher at a traffic light - they tear gas, although no one is going to chase them. They may have a race in China, but we have modernization, since the emphasis is on changing the qualitative, rather than quantitative, indicators of the armed forces.
      1. domokl
        domokl 6 February 2014 18: 05
        +10
        Quote: Arhj
        , and we have modernization, since the emphasis is on changing the qualitative, not quantitative, indicators of the armed forces.

        mdya .... really ... Maxim, don’t go anywhere, but read ONLY ... 00 AND 00HOT COMMENTATORS ONLY FOR CASTING AND DRIVING .. AND FOR ANY EVERYTHING .. There is a shooting member among Amercians .. .we urgently need to create a shooting polynomial ...
        We once bought star warriors ... Enough ... well, they will hit us super-super-fucking ... It's a pity for us of course ... But in return you get old Satan or something like that ...
        they catch us weak ... Like street hooligans ... Let them create super-duper know that ... But as long as they don’t have an answer to our gnomes ... it's all a fairy tale for boys \
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 6 February 2014 23: 42
          +1
          And what? We are not the same. Not the stirrups yet, but not the ones. Yes, and not there for us. It is time to completely reset the clamps.
        2. siberalt
          siberalt 6 February 2014 23: 42
          +1
          And what? We are not the same. Not the stirrups yet, but not the ones. Yes, and not there for us. It is time to completely reset the clamps.
      2. discard
        discard 6 February 2014 18: 53
        -10%
        Something is not heard that the Americans are quantitatively building up their army. They are really engaged in the development of the latest types of weapons.
        But what we are doing is completely incomprehensible:
        We maintain a million-strong MOBILIZATION army, which we are equipping very gradually with new types of weapons, which require considerable time for the development and appropriate training of personnel.
        We are structurally, and according to the types of main types of weapons, returning the army to the model of the Soviet army, which is preparing to fight in large-scale clashes (such as the Battle of Kursk, for example). Are we getting ready for the third patriotic war?
        Our president recently stated that we would not allow our army to be weaker than the US army.
        And what does the USA have to do with it - a country located on another continent. And why should we compete with her? Besides this, we have no problems for which even oil and gas money is not enough?
        1. shebetyn
          shebetyn 6 February 2014 19: 02
          +8
          Can't you see the difference. The United States is on the mainland and around Russia there are only friends
        2. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 6 February 2014 21: 41
          +3
          discard "And what does the USA have to do with it - a country located on another continent. And why should we compete with it?"
          You just need to surrender to America. And the faster the better ...
        3. P12P
          P12P 6 February 2014 23: 03
          +4
          what nonsense, do not want to feed your army - you will feed someone else's
      3. AVV
        AVV 7 February 2014 00: 29
        +3
        Quote: Arhj
        I agree. So many years have passed, and the Americans can’t do anything new. Stamps are the same as 20 and 50 years ago.
        Americans behave like a scorcher at a traffic light - they tear gas, although no one is going to chase them. They may have a race in China, but we have modernization, since the emphasis is on changing the qualitative, rather than quantitative, indicators of the armed forces.

        But for the states all is one, the USSR or Russia, they need to be torn apart, like Arabs or Negroes, and to get to our resources and wealth, they want to drag them into the Arms race, but they need to answer Asymmetrically and more efficiently and cheaply !!!
    2. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 6 February 2014 16: 20
      +6
      For example, to deprive the United States of its eyes and ears by undermining several nuclear warheads in satellite orbit.
      A super option, in addition to eyes and ears, mobile communications, the Internet, global positioning and much more interesting things + radioactive fragments will hit our heads. Yes there, besides their companions, there are also Chinese and European, well, these are trifles.

      Yeah, Academician Sakharov also suggested that a hydrogen bomb be detonated off the coast of the United States so that they all were washed away into the oceans. Are you some kind of evil one, maybe they will also throw viruses through transit passengers so that the adversaries get sick and all die out?
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 6 February 2014 16: 35
        +1
        Are you some kind of evil one, maybe they will also throw viruses through transit passengers so that the adversaries get sick and all die out?


        Well, you really, I’m a very kind person, and the idea that I expressed did not belong to me and it was repeatedly worked out. The SAKHAROV OPTION immediately dismisses too great consequences for neighboring countries — the damage should be within the military-industrial zones of a potential enemy.
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 6 February 2014 17: 17
          +3
          By the way, the Americans have already tried this (undermining the poison of poison in orbit), but even with all their aggression they abandoned this idea, China won down its own satellite in orbit and ..... + 30% to all space debris in orbit . And as for industrial zones, it’s easier to bring nuclear backpacks to them across the Mexican border with their own drug cartels, and you can dump everything on the zones of their khan and drug addict laughing
      2. axandrle
        axandrle 6 February 2014 16: 42
        +3
        and what is also an option wink
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      4. Charon
        Charon 6 February 2014 21: 10
        +3
        Send Colorado beetles oppressed in Russia to the American homeland. Type family reunion.
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    3. Cherdak
      Cherdak 6 February 2014 16: 35
      +6
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      US provoke Russia to an arms race

      And where to go?

      Rating of countries by military spending in 2013:

      1. USA - $ 585,4 billion
      2. China - $ 139,2 billion
      3. Russia - $ 68,8 billion
      4. Great Britain - $ 58,8 billion.
      5. Japan - $ 56,8 billion
      6. France - $ 53 billion
      7. India - $ 46,1 billion
      8. Germany - $ 44,6 billion
      9. Saudi Arabia - $ 42,8 billion
      10. South Korea - $ 31,5 billion.

      And so it was 3 years ago:
      1. lg41
        lg41 6 February 2014 22: 50
        -1
        Who prints dollyra - that and the winner
        1. chigh
          chigh 7 February 2014 00: 56
          0
          in war, it's just candy wrappers! GOLD PADOVAY
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 6 February 2014 16: 39
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      For example, to deprive the United States of its eyes and ears by undermining several nuclear warheads in satellite orbit.

      Or arrange something similar near tectonic faults off the coast of the USA. PROBLEMS FOR THE USA will be agromadic.


      Something you are painfully bloodthirsty. Remember the idea of ​​Academician Sakharov to detonate a thermonuclear bomb near the US coast. Let the 314ndos train. Although the military pulls all related industries, the idiotic economic policy will destroy America anyway before they achieve a real military advantage.
      1. VOLCHOXURAL
        VOLCHOXURAL 6 February 2014 17: 53
        +11
        Quote: Geisenberg


        Something you are painfully bloodthirsty.

        Come on you winked On the contrary, with all my soul! Like them to us! yes
    5. Army1
      Army1 6 February 2014 16: 45
      +3
      The arms race has been, is and will be. We know what "kind, honest and nice" Americans are, but we, too, are not from white and fluffy we will give change. The problem of quantity, technology does not stand still, what they have what we have. But to rivet thousands of missiles and thousands of interceptor missiles (for what?) Is unprofitable, although everyone is improving their weapons.
      1. sds555
        sds555 6 February 2014 17: 20
        +16
        Arms race say ... But so you don’t want to ?! !! laughing drinks
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 7 February 2014 01: 15
          +5
          Shapkozakidvaniya not the best position. The USA is a serious adversary with mentally shifted leaders, reckless warriors and an absolutely misguided people. So, with such an opponent you will have to "be friends" to death. soldier
    6. rubin6286
      rubin6286 6 February 2014 17: 56
      +2
      In no case should this be done. You don’t understand .. this will lead to nuclear war and to all .... c.
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 7 February 2014 14: 41
        0
        In no case should this be done. You don’t understand .. this will lead to nuclear war and to all .... c.

        And this is a speech of a competent specialist! laughing
    7. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 6 February 2014 18: 09
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      US provokes Russia into an arms race-

      When a girl provokes a guy, what does the guy do to her? It's the same with America: so you can lose your "honor"! wassat
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    10. 120352
      120352 7 February 2014 00: 53
      +4
      The Second World War was, as they say, a "war of motors", the next one will probably become a "war of hackers". There is no need to blow up anything in orbit. We need to reprogram everything American. And not only in space. But also on the ground, at sea, in the air in such a way that any missile they fired in our direction would come to the starting point! It is obvious!!!
      Besides. War requires a lot of money. With the help of hackers, you can reset the accounts of any states (sometimes something similar happens in miniature even now). With the zeroing of accounts, the war ends.
      Now we are surrounded by American missile defense. You can make it so that they begin to spontaneously self-destruct. It is necessary to train specialists in sufficient quantities of the required level with the possibility of self-development. But it is necessary to send some of these specialists to a probable enemy the day before yesterday or even earlier.
      It turns out a war without blood (almost), but with a large number of prisoners (all NATO). There is something to occupy them with. Will become relevant, please contact!
  2. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 6 February 2014 15: 57
    +12
    Do not worry, everything will be fine:

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    2. Alexei
      Alexei 6 February 2014 17: 22
      +5
      Ha! I forgot to face McCain! laughing I had such an idea even before the credits. McCain is smiling, he has nothing left to do. All is said correctly. Let them invest billions in their missile defense, and then let them dream and hope that it will stop Russian missiles. And as you know, the states do not like to take risks and will (as always) act stealthily, vilely, by the hands of others. In general, the balance of power needs to continue to balance.
      1. VOLCHOXURAL
        VOLCHOXURAL 6 February 2014 17: 44
        +6
        Quote: Alexej
        Ha! I forgot to face McCain! laughing Let them invest billions in their missile defense, and then let them dream and hope that it will stop Russian missiles. And as you know, the states do not like to take risks and will (as always) act stealthily, vilely, by the hands of others. In general, the balance of power needs to continue to balance.
        1. ia-ai00
          ia-ai00 6 February 2014 21: 16
          +4
          The more SUPPORTS, the STRONGER diplomacy ...
  3. sinukvl
    sinukvl 6 February 2014 16: 07
    +13
    And it seems that this time in the arms race, the US will tear
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 6 February 2014 16: 40
      +5
      Quote: sinukvl
      And it seems that this time in the arms race, the US will tear


      Any doubts? The bad thing is that it could very well become so that we will switch places. But it’s even better for us to be in the shadow of the big and brainless than in full view of everyone.
    2. INTER
      INTER 6 February 2014 17: 00
      +3
      Quote: sinukvl
      And it seems that this time in the arms race, the US will tear

      Observe the turn of the gentlemen))))) Their turn) I wonder if we can succeed in robbing them as barbarously as they do us? Although, I think not, we don’t have it in the blood!
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 6 February 2014 17: 26
        +3
        Quote: INTER
        I think not, we don’t have it in the blood!

        Of course not. We have everything, we just need to be left alone and years through 15-20 everything will work out.
      2. RND
        RND 6 February 2014 23: 07
        +1
        It will turn out if we send all our oligarchic gang to mattresses for permanent residence.
    3. predator.3
      predator.3 6 February 2014 17: 13
      +5
      Quote: sinukvl
      And it seems that this time in the arms race, the US will tear


      With 16 trillion debt bucks, what an arms race we can talk about! Yes, for God's sake let them arm themselves, but ours just do not doze off and keep the gunpowder dry!
    4. Setrac
      Setrac 6 February 2014 22: 23
      +1
      Quote: sinukvl
      And it seems that this time in the arms race, the US will tear

      The figure of the statue of liberty is not feminine.
  4. m.metis2011
    m.metis2011 6 February 2014 16: 13
    +5
    FORGOTTEN TO GIVE INTO THE Muzzle MAKKEYN ... It is desirable from the feet and more than once))) !!!
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 6 February 2014 16: 24
      +7
      Leave you alone with the old poppy, and so after Vietnam the hemorrhoids do not go away (they knew how to ask in the camp), so he barks at everyone.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 6 February 2014 17: 07
        +4
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        he doesn’t have any hemorrhoids after vietnam


        this is not from this after an unsuccessful landing on an aircraft carrier when it was assembled in a hospital, two main parts of the body were mixed up instead of a buttock, a head was attached and instead of a head, what was left was more or less like a head i.e. buttocks.
        hence the content.
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    2. Same lech
      Same lech 6 February 2014 16: 25
      +2
      grandfather will run to complain Klitschko-have to deal with this roof smile
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 6 February 2014 17: 01
        +2
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        will run to complain Klitschko-have to deal with this roof


        and we are his fire extinguisher on the bastard. Will be the first knockout in my life. it would be better to go in for sports
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        2. vorobey
          vorobey 6 February 2014 17: 56
          +5
          something like that
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      3. RND
        RND 6 February 2014 23: 29
        +2
        This roof is probably full of holes. laughing
        In an erotic photo shoot for the popular German magazine MAX
        1. alex-s
          alex-s 7 February 2014 14: 57
          0
          This roof is probably full of holes laughing

          Yes, it looks like not only the roof is full of holes! laughing
  5. kind
    kind 6 February 2014 16: 25
    +13
    The most interesting thing is that the United States places weapons in Europe to protect it from Russian aggression, but Russia does not threaten anyone. Other threats, (Iran, Syria, etc.), the United States creates artificially. I do not understand the Europeans. Russia has never attacked anyone, but enlightened Europe has received in the face many times from the Russians for the wars imposed on us. It turns out that each generation of Europeans makes its own story, and either does not know the previous one, or it does not teach them anything. As for America, it will soon digest itself in its hatred.
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 6 February 2014 17: 08
      +5
      they can't read
    2. muhomor
      muhomor 6 February 2014 17: 23
      +8
      Yes, over the past 500 years, all the major wars came to us from there, from the enlightened west. Although, for some reason, in the heads of the gay people, Russia is the main aggressive, cowardly and sneaky European neighbor. This is probably due to our vastness. A Pole sits in his own country, which you can cross with a good wind, look to the east, and there RUSSIA hangs from sea to sea. This is where envy, jealousy and fear arise. And as a result, hatred.
      1. Sochi
        Sochi 6 February 2014 17: 43
        +5
        He doesn’t arise, he has been genetically recorded since birth ... Fearlessness, and the blood of our ancestors.
  6. moremansf
    moremansf 6 February 2014 16: 26
    +2
    Everything is good in moderation ... balanced armed forces are our guarantee of security !!!
  7. Duke
    Duke 6 February 2014 16: 40
    +9
    BZHRK - RT-23 UTTX Molodets military railway missile system (NATO SS-24 Scalpel classification).
    The composition of the BZHRK includes a train of a standard configuration for the complex:
    - Three three-car launch modules with ICBMs RT-23UTTKH;
    - command module consisting of 7 cars;
    - tank car with reserves of fuels and lubricants;
    - two locomotives DM-62.
    Now a new complex is being designed.
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 6 February 2014 22: 20
      +3
      ... as my mentor used to say: - "when the structure is designed correctly, it looks FINE. In my opinion, this" structure "looks FINE!
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 7 February 2014 15: 00
        0
        Here's a design pndocam in the ass! angry
  8. Magyar
    Magyar 6 February 2014 16: 47
    +11
    There will be no arms race. The financial situation of our country will not allow unlimited spending. Before and the experience of previous decades shows that excessive weapons with different systems did not justify itself. Better less, but more effective and deadlier, the main thing is to bring everything to mind so that it works like a clock. It is necessary to correctly prioritize which systems are needed and work tirelessly in these areas, as they say. But in the United States, on the contrary, you need to put big and thick, to get out of all the agreements, which impose restrictions on the development and testing of new products. And we will be happy.
    1. JonnyT
      JonnyT 6 February 2014 17: 28
      +1
      Quote: Magyar
      Better less, but more efficient and deadlier.


      More than ever, Russia needs high-precision weapons so that in the event of a strike it does not hurt foreign property owned by officials, politicians, oligarchs))))
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 6 February 2014 17: 35
        +4
        Quote: JonnyT
        More than ever, Russia needs high-precision weapons so that in the event of a strike it does not hurt foreign property owned by officials, politicians, oligarchs))))


        Johnny bro, hello. So let these guys invest as interested persons. And then you know the bullet of a fool. and a smart bullet is a smart fool
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    3. Magyar
      Magyar 6 February 2014 21: 45
      +8
      Video in the topic. Men are enjoying watching.
      1. VOLCHOXURAL
        VOLCHOXURAL 6 February 2014 23: 10
        +1
        Quote: Magyar
        Video in the topic. Men are enjoying watching.

        Enjoy! yes good soldier
  9. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 6 February 2014 16: 56
    +3
    No, this is not an arms race, but simply MODERNIZATION. laughing soldier
  10. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 6 February 2014 17: 06
    +5
    our comrades can work for an idea, and gentlemen work for them for money and only for money. The conclusion is that you need to break the dollar as a world currency, there are many economic structures such as brix, shos, asian, etc., and inside you can trade with them as you like and anything but not for $ and euro, at least for yuan and kerdyk will come.
  11. AnaBat
    AnaBat 6 February 2014 17: 12
    +4
    Americans planted and will plant their own rules. Therefore, we must take this calmly and arm ourselves!
    1. VOLCHOXURAL
      VOLCHOXURAL 6 February 2014 18: 10
      +5
      Quote: AnaBat
      Americans planted and will plant their own rules. Therefore, we must take this calmly and arm ourselves!

      I hope that their treacherous plantings of "democracy" will end like this -
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 7 February 2014 06: 32
        0
        It remains only to recreate the Soviet Union!
        1. AnaBat
          AnaBat 7 February 2014 10: 18
          0
          GREAT COUNTRY - GREAT FUTURE!
  12. Do not care
    Do not care 6 February 2014 17: 13
    +7
    ABM destroyers deployed at military bases in Europe pose a potential threat to the interception of Russian land and sea-based intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), the expert is convinced.



    In the picture, the flight path of ICBMs from the base in Kapustin Yar to Washington:

    Can someone explain what kind of miracle the Americans did, which from the Mediterranean Sea can intercept ICBMs on the indicated trajectory ??? And what about the launch from the Urals, Siberia or the Far East? And from the submarine to the Arctic Ocean?

    To do this, it should at least develop a speed of 2-3 times more than ICBMs, and this is 15-20 km / s.
    But even if we assume that the "American genius" created such a miracle, then to intercept it would have to break the laws of physics. At this speed, the anti-missile missile will immediately leave the earth and then the solar system.
    Moreover, for such an interception, the missile defense system must know the flight path even before the ICBM launch.

    In general, either aliens work for the Americans, or they keep us for fools.
    1. B_KypTke
      B_KypTke 6 February 2014 17: 29
      +7
      Judging by the picture, the rocket went from the Plesetsk cosmodrome.
      And Kapustin Yar is located in the Volga delta.
      1. m.metis2011
        m.metis2011 6 February 2014 18: 58
        +2
        There is a reserve in the Volga delta! And Kapustin Yar is about 300-340 km from the city of Astrakhan.
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 6 February 2014 22: 45
          +3
          And about 200 from Volgograd
          1. LLITOPM 12
            LLITOPM 12 6 February 2014 23: 46
            0
            96-98 saw Aktyubinsk on the horizon, against the background of missile-bombing missiles at some poor technical unit riddled with a bunch of ammunition
    2. Do not care
      Do not care 6 February 2014 17: 40
      +2
      Your truth, I agree.
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      2. Canep
        Canep 6 February 2014 18: 04
        +7
        I’ll explain how I think. Americans don’t know the geography and seem to believe that the missiles on the map will fly in a straight line. And then the deployment of missile defense in Poland and Romania looks justified. They don’t seem to know that the earth is round. Even if you launch a missile from Chukotka or from China, it will still fly over Poland. I would not be surprised if the route from Alaska to Chukotka passes according to the opinion of Amers through Canada, Greenland, Iceland, etc.
        1. Canep
          Canep 6 February 2014 18: 25
          +5
          The danger of such a delusion is that the Americans, being confident in their invulnerability, can start a nuclear war with Russia and China. I am sure that the military in the Air Force and the Navy know how things are going, but it is not warriors who start wars, but politicians. Look at McCain and McFaul (“why do the Russians consider us enemies, do we tell them that we are friends?wassat ") and the level of intelligence of US politicians becomes apparent.
        2. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 6 February 2014 23: 30
          0
          Ballistic missiles that accelerate to near-first cosmic velocity cannot fly along a curved path. Even if the trajectory is bent, then it smoothly bends, turning thousands of kilometers. And the trajectory through the Arctic Ocean is the shortest way to the Americans. And since the ocean is covered with ice at 100%, the missile defense system there is very difficult to install. And the Pacific and Atlantic oceans and the Mediterranean Sea are a continuous missile defense system of NATO, America and Japan.
        3. predator.3
          predator.3 7 February 2014 08: 06
          +2
          Quote: Canep
          . They don’t seem to know that the earth is round.


          If only they didn’t hit the whales with their missiles, otherwise we’ll drown! laughing
    3. 1c-inform-city
      1c-inform-city 6 February 2014 18: 20
      +9
      The fact is that the anti-missile is made on the basis of a minuteman rocket and no one will tell us which warhead is placed on it. It turns out that missiles with strategic range and not subject to control are located near our borders. Almost the same thing can be said about Aegis, except that these medium-range missiles are generally prohibited. And the main risks are here, and not that they will bring down something.
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 6 February 2014 23: 37
        0
        Who can ban the Aegis anti-aircraft missile defense system - these are not medium-range missiles, they still do not carry a warhead, they shoot down with a direct hit And only in 2016 will they adopt the SM-6 anti-aircraft missile with a fragmentation charge in the Aegis seat.
    4. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 6 February 2014 23: 21
      0
      This can be done by the Aegis system - the American naval multifunctional combat information and control system (CIUS), which is an integrated network of naval means of lighting the environment, weapons, such as anti-aircraft guided missiles Standard missile 2 (SM-2), SM-3 and SM- 6, and controls, formed on the basis of the widespread introduction of automated combat control systems (ASBU). The system allows you to receive and process information from sensors of other ships and aircraft of the connection and issue target designations to their launchers. The name "Aegis" also bears the air defense system used as part of this CIUS.
      To date, the Aegis MBIUS is used by the Navy of the USA, Spain, NORWAY, the Republic of Korea and the Naval Self-Defense Forces of Japan (in total, more than 100 ships are equipped with it). Soon, the Aegis installation is expected on the new Australian Navy air defense destroyers. In addition, US Navy ships equipped with this system will be used as a ship component of the European missile defense system (NATO).
      The trajectory is just through the territory of Norway. And in the Baltic Sea you can shoot down.
    5. Horn
      Horn 7 February 2014 07: 19
      0
      And who tested these "interceptors" for the presence or absence of a vigorous warhead? The Americans are just bringing their launchers closer to our borders, that's all ...
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 7 February 2014 11: 25
        0
        The fact is that the marching rocket engines with an increase in the load on the 100 gr. increase by 100 kg. And this rocket needs to overcome 8 km / s in order to shoot down satellites. Therefore, the first models SM-2 and SM-3 are purely kinetic direct hit missiles. If you make nuclear stockpile on a rocket, then the rocket will simply turn into an ordinary ballistic missile, a slow-moving one and not knocking anyone down. At school, physics had to be friends.
  13. andrei332809
    andrei332809 6 February 2014 17: 15
    +4
    look for who benefits request the pentagon is being cut off, therefore, the military-industrial complex and institutions will receive fewer orders (that is, money). and I want to eat not bread and some water, but some lobsters with which they drink there. here are the enemies all around. but since they are small, only Russia is suitable for scaring lawmakers and asking for money
  14. Snipe 74
    Snipe 74 6 February 2014 17: 37
    0
    It's time to roll away Europe. And we have enough strength and tricks. Properly plan, prepare, calculate the possible opposition and immediately neutralize. I do not pretend to be a STRATEG, there are people who are really specialists in such matters. But somehow ashamed of us and insulting. They slaughter us like sheep, but we are silent. You ask me who cuts us and how? And how many of us are left? Alcoholism, drug addiction, corruption of youth, privatization, Gorbachev, Yeltsin ... collapse of the USSR. Where do you think your legs grow? The defense is always crowded, there is not enough room for maneuver and you have to predict the possible attacking actions of the enemy. Therefore, you need to dictate your own rules of the game, and this is best done in an attack. And over time, and get to the United States. Everything is possible for Russia, but not with this government. These are weaklings and cowards.
    1. chigh
      chigh 6 February 2014 19: 41
      -1
      for them the main thing is money, not the prestige of the country!
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 7 February 2014 06: 36
      -1
      Quote: Snipe 74
      but not under this government. These are weaklings and cowards.
      BOOT !! Absolutely agree. Before throwing shit in the USA, threatening them, etc., you need to create a support under yourself that will protect you. Reliance is a strong independent state with a strong economy, industry and defense industry. And a nationally oriented government. Until we change the government and the existing system, there can be no talk of any confrontation with the United States.
      1. SV
        SV 7 February 2014 17: 09
        0
        You are not from the Maidan ???
        There too, including turning off the brain !!!! wassat
  15. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 6 February 2014 17: 38
    0
    But today Russia is forced to create a new heavy missile, development of a military railway missile system, and also build up the arsenal of ICBMs of the Topol-M and Yars type

    Glory to Russian Railways, faithful assistant to the Strategic Missile Forces!
  16. sablezub81
    sablezub81 6 February 2014 17: 42
    +2
    Quote: Do not care
    In the picture, the flight path of ICBMs from the base in Kapustin Yar to Washington:

    Probably the picture is still not Cap. Yar and the spaceport in the north of Russia - rather like Plesetsk.
    1. LLITOPM 12
      LLITOPM 12 6 February 2014 23: 55
      0
      Cap.Yar - a completely different planet, a completely pristine world, the animal world is not afraid of people - and fried gophers are very tasty (after 6 months of stewed cabbage)
  17. engineer74
    engineer74 6 February 2014 17: 43
    +3
    Let us not forget that the arms race is the main engine of scientific and technological progress. The main thing in the process is not to move from quality to quantity and we will have everything! good
  18. Patriot23
    Patriot23 6 February 2014 17: 59
    +2
    NATO will not go into direct confrontation (a narrow point), but they can drag us into the arms race and spend all the money on it as they did in the USSR ... I hope our leadership understands this and will not go on about it ... front (Slovenian) and then it will be much easier!
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 6 February 2014 22: 52
      +3
      Quote: Patriot23
      but drag us into the arms race and spend all the money on it like they did in the USSR

      This point of view is imposed on Russian people, those who destroyed the USSR.
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 6 February 2014 22: 54
      0
      Quote: Patriot23
      act in a united front (Slovenian)

      The Poles are Slavs.
  19. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 6 February 2014 18: 05
    +5
    ... And in these terrible circumstances of tension, said Chuck Hagel, countries such as China and Russia are modernizing their armed forces ...

    Well, after all, suk ... And the United States is tearing its veins, trying to confront the world hegemons, monsters of military power, Iran and S. Korea, and Russia and China treacherously, out of silence, we can say, they are modernizing their armed forces .. . I’ll cry now crying
    1. Stinger
      Stinger 6 February 2014 18: 39
      +5
      Hat! He does not yet know that Russia, together with China, is starting to build launch mines on the far side of the moon. Under the nose of progressive humanity, they are preparing an insidious blow to the leader of democracy and its peaceful armed forces.
  20. siberalt
    siberalt 6 February 2014 18: 50
    +3
    Comparing the current missile defense with Reagan’s missile defense is not entirely correct, in my opinion. Former hysteria about the Soviet attack on the United States is already in sight. Nobody is imposing an arms race on us. Because all states are arming themselves. But we in the field of armaments fell for 20 years. Disarmed more and more. And giving modernization for the race is in the hands of the enemy.
  21. Alex
    Alex 6 February 2014 18: 57
    +7
    Talk about the USSR breaking into an arms race, nothing more than the tales of liberals. Quite the opposite. The arms race was a powerful incentive for scientific and technological progress. Let us recall what a breakthrough the USSR and the USA made in their development during the Cold War. I would like to hope that a new round of the arms race is stimulating the revival of our military-industrial complex, which, like a locomotive, will drag out our entire economy.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 6 February 2014 19: 37
      +4
      Quote: Ralex
      Talk about the USSR breaking into an arms race, nothing more than liberal tales

      Yes sir soldier and this despite the fact that the USSR armed itself and armed its allies at its own expense, and the Yankees borrowed from the whole world. So which system of economy is better?
  22. delfinN
    delfinN 6 February 2014 19: 02
    +1
    Quote: Canep
    I’ll explain how I think. Americans don’t know the geography and seem to believe that the missiles on the map will fly in a straight line. And then the deployment of missile defense in Poland and Romania looks justified. They don’t seem to know that the earth is round. Even if you launch a missile from Chukotka or from China, it will still fly over Poland. I would not be surprised if the route from Alaska to Chukotka passes according to the opinion of Amers through Canada, Greenland, Iceland, etc.

    I read that they began to tumble loot into Liberia. Hopefully after the 3rd MV there to dig in. That's where the racket flies - Right into the Brown Eye.
  23. sxn278619
    sxn278619 6 February 2014 19: 39
    -4
    The United States is ten years ahead of Russia in rocket technology, agrees Pavel Zolotarev, deputy director of the US and Canada Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences, military expert.

    “To put it simply, our new missiles are approaching the characteristics of their old ones. However, despite the higher accuracy of American missiles, the difference will not be significant in the performance of combat missions, ”Zolotarev told Russian Planet.

    Source: http://rusplt.ru/world/raketi_moral_us.html
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 6 February 2014 23: 42
      +1
      No expert will tell the truth. To tell the truth about new developments is to betray the homeland. But to say that we are lagging behind is to calm the enemy. In fact, only intelligence can know. But they never admit that they know the truth. It means betraying your agents.
  24. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 6 February 2014 19: 47
    +3
    Iskanders to Kaliningrad and Belarus (and not to talk about the flight range of new models, the Americans do not consider their Aegis to be a medium-range system, even if the Iskanders will be operational-tactical).
  25. voliador
    voliador 6 February 2014 19: 54
    +6
    And it will end like this for scrappers.
    1. Charon
      Charon 8 February 2014 00: 17
      0
      The picture is good, but the proportions are not maintained. Ours will be bigger.
    2. Charon
      Charon 8 February 2014 00: 17
      0
      The picture is good, but the proportions are not maintained. Ours will be bigger.
  26. chigh
    chigh 6 February 2014 20: 15
    +2
    I don’t think that the Americans excelled in rocket science! why does the START treaty exist? they are afraid of our offensive missiles! and are very concerned about reducing them to zero.
  27. chigh
    chigh 6 February 2014 20: 19
    +1
    by the way! engine on a rocket launcher buy from us.
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  30. Puffed up
    Puffed up 6 February 2014 20: 38
    -2
    America does not claim to be the territory of Russia. And China claims.
    Song of the Chinese peasants then.
    The time for fulfilling the prophecies of the holy fathers of our Church that China will go to Russia is drawing near.
    1. Puffed up
      Puffed up 6 February 2014 20: 49
      -1
      The Chinese now openly sing about our weakness now. And that our lands are rich in gold, oil, gas, wood. War is approaching now.
    2. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 7 February 2014 06: 31
      0
      Damn yes Coconut START3 !!!! Nodo poplar as a purebred fenced and in all directions! am
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  31. Shatt
    Shatt 6 February 2014 21: 14
    +2
    Quote: discard
    Something is not heard that the Americans are quantitatively building up their army. They are really engaged in the development of the latest types of weapons.

    Are you kidding me? The Americans in Afghanistan alone built 9 military bases! They have a network of military bases around the world, their total number is about (or maybe more) five hundred! And we have only 4 outside of Russia.
    Quote: discard

    We are structurally, and by types of main types of weapons, returning the army to the model of the Soviet army, which is preparing to fight in large-scale clashes

    On the contrary, the army was made more mobile. Have you heard of the brigades? This is just to quickly respond to local military invasions, such as South Ossetia.
    Quote: discard
    Our president recently stated that we would not allow our army to be weaker than the US army.
    And what does the USA have to do with it - a country located on another continent. And why should we compete with her?

    It is geographically located on another continent, and their military forces around the world and under our nose. Americans are sucking on the idea of ​​a lightning disarming strike, which is what worries the president and not only him.
  32. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 6 February 2014 21: 24
    +1
    platitsyn70 (1) UZ
    our comrades can work for the ideaand gentlemen work for them for money and only for money.

    This, the journalist "Echo of Moscow" Psushet Larina, and the employees of the "rain" channel - NEVER UNDERSTAND, and this is a WAR SECRET!
  33. intsurfer
    intsurfer 6 February 2014 21: 25
    +1
    Quote: predator.3
    Quote: sinukvl
    And it seems that this time in the arms race, the US will tear


    With 16 trillion debt bucks, what an arms race we can talk about!

    You forget that their debt is in their own currency. How much will be needed, so much will be printed. With all the consequences for the entire world economy. What will happen to the Russian in this case - guess for yourself.
    1. chigh
      chigh 7 February 2014 00: 24
      0
      if large and medium-sized businesses were partly owned by the state, and if there was a high-quality personnel base for management, we could create healthy competition for the dollar! A similar project is already underway, the customs union! The purchase of the dollar is declining, and the turnover is in national currency! BUT there is a huge minus, this is the WTO
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  35. Ihrek
    Ihrek 6 February 2014 22: 51
    0
    The magnitude of the hypocrisy and arrogance of the Americans is simply breeding.
  36. Yves762
    Yves762 6 February 2014 23: 02
    0
    US provokes Russia to arms race ...

    IMHO, only a way (one of) to get printed money to work, thereby providing yourself with a price.
  37. LLITOPM 12
    LLITOPM 12 7 February 2014 00: 32
    0
    Huge, voluminous hexagonal honeycomb-shaped receiving and transmitting repeaters - on the territory of the point (during the transfer, the personnel were driven into the "basement") majors running out from under the "ground" with mats, invisible camouflaged hills with surveillance cameras, and reps rushing across the steppe with specialists (Cap.Yar (Znamensk-6
  38. LLITOPM 12
    LLITOPM 12 7 February 2014 00: 46
    0
    Statsenko, remember?
  39. shelva
    shelva 7 February 2014 01: 57
    0
    With 16 trillion debt bucks, which arms race can we talk about

    What are these dollars to them? They have no problems with paper. If everyone asked to "buy" the dollars they had, the US would not be enough.