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Ukraine offers upgraded tanks T-64 Colombia and Peru

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According to sources in the defense industry of Ukraine in the article "The main events of the military-technical cooperation of Ukraine in 2013", published in the sixth issue of the journal "Arms Export" for 2013, Ukrspetsexport is negotiating with Colombia and Peru for sale these countries parties modernized tanks T-64 out of stock.


This is confirmed by the statement of the Director General of the state enterprise Ukroboronservis (included in the Ukroboronprom group of companies) Sergey Mikityuk, published in December 2013, that his company "plans to launch a marketing campaign to promote the T-64 tanks to the world market." Mykytyuk said that “now the enterprise has carried out the relevant preparatory measures for the formation of foreign customers' interest in purchasing T-64 tanks ... The implementation of the T-64 project should open a new page in stories as "Ukroboronservis", and in general, "Ukroboronprom". There is confidence in the success of this product, which surpasses many analogues in the "price-quality" criterion.

So far, the T-64 tank has not been shipped abroad (outside the USSR / CIS / Ukraine) - with the exception of unconfirmed information about the sale of approximately 10 T-64B tanks to the Angolan opposition movement UNITA at the beginning of the 2000s by Ukrainian "special exporters".

There is an assumption that the beginning of attempts by Ukrainian “special exporters” to export T-64 tanks from availability is due to the actual exhaustion of Ukraine’s stocks of T-72 tanks that can be sold abroad — primarily, by suitable engines. Perhaps the latter circumstance was also the reason for the sale of T-72 tanks to Ethiopia, upgraded according to the T-72UA1 variant with the re-equipment of Kharkov 5TDFMA-1 diesel engines.

The possibility of concluding contracts for the sale of T-64 tanks (including those mentioned by Colombia and Peru), however, raises the most serious doubts.

Ukraine offers upgraded tanks T-64 Colombia and Peru

A collection of decommissioned T-64 tanks on the territory of the Kharkov Armored Repair Plant. June 2012 of the year (c) www.ridus.ru
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  1. domokl
    domokl 4 February 2014 09: 49
    +15
    In order to save the defense industry, any options are suitable. If the defense industry's factories aren’t working now, the specialists will run away. As it was in Russia recently. So you have to grab onto everything ... And there, where the curve will take.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 4 February 2014 10: 42
      -2
      Tank Maidan has begun ..! winked
    2. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 4 February 2014 13: 21
      0
      Quote: domokl
      In order to save the defense industry, any options are suitable. If the defense industry's factories aren’t working now, the specialists will run away. As it was in Russia recently. So you have to grab onto everything ... And there, where the curve will take.


      purely my opinion. rescue opk here and does not smell. Peru is a Russian market, Colombia is an American puppet, but prone to unpredictable actions. in the case of Peru, this is a banal attempt to spoil military cooperation. in :-) the case of Colombia, the strengthening of drug cartels with heavy equipment. in general, this is all an attempt to smack bullshit bullshit. done to replenish the pocket of some Ukrainian oligarch. and no altruism.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 4 February 2014 15: 01
        +3
        Quote: Geisenberg
        in :-) the case of Colombia, the strengthening of drug cartels with heavy equipment.

        plus Colombia periodically tries Venezuela for a tooth, only that year (2013) there were about 50 hassles at the border ...
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      3. Kars
        Kars 4 February 2014 15: 30
        +1
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Peru is a Russian market

        And is it painted somewhere? And where is the Ukrainian market then?
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 4 February 2014 21: 09
          +3
          Quote: Kars
          And where is the Ukrainian market then?
          In Ukraine... repeat
          1. Kars
            Kars 4 February 2014 21: 31
            +2
            Quote: retired
            In Ukraine...

            Well, I’m glad that you don’t even pretend to Ukraine. But you still wouldn’t be bothered by the lip-feeding machine.
            1. Krapovy32
              Krapovy32 5 February 2014 01: 28
              +1
              request And you happen to print from the Maidan?
              1. Kars
                Kars 5 February 2014 01: 43
                +2
                Quote: Speckled32
                And you happen to print from the Maidan?

                It’s dear to him, from him. You are so insightful, breathtaking. Probably in the police, oh, the police work)))))))))))
    3. AVV
      AVV 4 February 2014 14: 37
      +2
      Quote: domokl
      In order to save the defense industry, any options are suitable. If the defense industry's factories aren’t working now, the specialists will run away. As it was in Russia recently. So you have to grab onto everything ... And there, where the curve will take.

      Most importantly, whatever would bring to Europe, then the end to Ukrspetsexport and tank and other defense enterprises, definitely !!!
  2. ramin_serg
    ramin_serg 4 February 2014 09: 55
    +14
    I think that modernized tanks will not be better than modern ones, but than sending existing tanks for nails, it is better to upgrade them and it is advisable to sell them (well, for example, to Africa)
  3. Doznanied
    Doznanied 4 February 2014 10: 03
    +4
    Quote: ramin_serg
    desirable to sell (well, for example, to Africa)

    And there they will launch them on the coast from the mountains and crush enemy tribes, they don’t need an engine either - JOKE! wink
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 4 February 2014 17: 25
      +4
      Quote: Doznanied
      And there they will launch them offshore from the mountains and crush enemy tribes

      You can be ironic, but our weapons have always been particularly reliable, even the T-34 nowadays has been repeatedly wound up and surpassed under its own power. So, I won’t be surprised if the T-64 are fully operational and combat-ready :)
  4. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 4 February 2014 10: 16
    +2
    Eh, how many vehicles could create with Brothers (I don’t think of Westerners) T64 was an excellent tank! crying
  5. AlexxxNik
    AlexxxNik 4 February 2014 10: 37
    -4
    Soon there will be information on Thai "strongholds", I think after that they will shy away from the Ukrainian tank building like a leper, except for a corruption scheme there is nothing to look for
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    2. GastaClaus69
      GastaClaus69 4 February 2014 12: 34
      +1
      Quote: AlexxxNik
      Soon there will be information on Thai "strongholds", I think after that they will shy away from the Ukrainian tank building like a leper

      Do you know something that we don’t know that they are so pessimistic? Or just want to pass off your desires for reality?
      1. AlexxxNik
        AlexxxNik 4 February 2014 13: 51
        0
        as far as I read from the Akhtungtank in LiveJournal, the factory ran out of 80s for redistribution, and they still need 40 pieces
        1. Kars
          Kars 4 February 2014 15: 32
          +2
          Quote: AlexxxNik
          as far as I read at the akhtungtank in LJ

          You still read Gurk Khan who has already canceled the Thai contract three times.
          1. AlexxxNik
            AlexxxNik 4 February 2014 19: 20
            0
            I also read gurkhan, so far I don’t see any arguments in favor of the contract, five tanks for such a time is a laugh.
            1. Kars
              Kars 4 February 2014 19: 27
              +2
              Quote: AlexxxNik
              I don’t see any arguments in favor of the contract yet

              And so what? What is invisible?
              and Gurk Khan canceled it back in 2011 and sold BTS-4 to Thailand)))
              Quote: AlexxxNik
              five tanks for such a time is a laugh.

              How much time? Do you know the date of arrival of the first tranche of money from Thailand?
              And no one hid that the BM Oplot was not produced in series, and would not get fast.
              1. haron
                haron 4 February 2014 21: 57
                +6
                KARS.
                I wonder at your patience.
                Attempts to fool ALL Ukrainian, despite the fact that people treated Russia well (I think it was, I hope it is).

                Really screwing up any successes of the neighbors and demanding at the same time "brotherly" subordination, the visitors of this site hope to restore "great Russia".

                It's sad to look at the sound ... and you! and you ".. and we have gas ... and we have a gas mask ... nonsense.
                I am sure, reading the pages of reviews on the site, some people rubs their hands with pleasure.
            2. Kars
              Kars 6 February 2014 13: 52
              +1
              _______________________
          2. morpex
            morpex 4 February 2014 20: 19
            +5
            Quote: Kars
            You still read Gurk Khan who has already canceled the Thai contract three times.

            The first batch of BM Oplot tanks arrived in Thailand
        2. GastaClaus69
          GastaClaus69 4 February 2014 15: 46
          +4
          Quote: AlexxxNik
          as far as I read from the Akhtungtank in LiveJournal, the factory ran out of 80s for redistribution, and they still need 40 pieces

          Do you know how many such scribbles on the Internet? You can’t believe everything, all the more people who write it are not altruists, but they do it for their own benefit! Trust but verify, have you heard such a saying?
          After all, I can also register on LiveJournal and write an article stating that the armor of Abrams actually consists of 40-year-old Dutch cheese. And what is the best way to deal with it is a cheese cutter.yes And the saddest thing is that there are those who believe.
          1. DEfindER
            DEfindER 4 February 2014 17: 38
            +2
            Quote: GastaClaus69
            You can’t believe everything, all the more people who write it are not altruists, but they do it for their own benefit!

            In vain, Khrushch canceled in schools such an object as Logic (introduced by the way by Stalin). When people stop thinking and analyzing, they begin to believe everything they say and give in to any provocations .. Our main weapon has always been, not tanks and missiles, but our thinking and logic .. which we are trying to destroy with modern pop culture and false values ​​..
  6. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 4 February 2014 12: 21
    +1
    Not a bad idea, if only it would be beneficial and smart to act ... Otherwise, as always, the cheeks will blow, the caps are leaving, "URRRYA!" shout, and stop there. How many promising projects have already been destroyed ... fool
  7. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 4 February 2014 12: 36
    +1
    surpasses many analogues by the criterion of "price-quality".

    According to the laws of mathematics (and life, in this case, they coincide) in only one case - in the event that the price approaches zero.
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 4 February 2014 17: 42
      0
      Quote: velikoros-xnumx
      According to the laws of mathematics (and life, in this case, they coincide) in only one case - in the event that the price approaches zero.

      Also an option - tanks are free, service is paid.
      By the way, the Americans tried to get their old abrams to Egypt for free, apparently according to the same pattern, but Egypt seemed to refuse ..
  8. Frost64
    Frost64 4 February 2014 14: 13
    +1
    Sell ​​to the Zulus. "Big kaput".
  9. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 4 February 2014 14: 50
    +2
    In Ukraine, the T-72 ended ... Only the T-64, it’s unlikely that they will boil someone, the machine is not widespread (it is in service with Ukraine and Uzbekistan, it is being withdrawn from service in Russia) and it is not familiar, there is no trust in it. Political and economic events in Ukraine also do not contribute to the conclusion of contracts.
    In Peru, the T-90 is being tested with might and main, the main rival of which is the second-hand Spanish Leopards-2. Moreover, Peru's main rival in the Chile region also has the Leopard-2 in service.




    Colombia has no tanks at all, the American Shermans and Stuarts of the Second World War have been scrapped and now the heaviest equipment is 123 Brazilian EE-9 Cascavels with a 90-mm cannon. And besides, Colombia is focused on the purchase of weapons for the United States and Israel, which are unlikely to miss such a market, the freebie times, as with the contract for the BTR-4, have long since ended. laughing
    1. Kars
      Kars 4 February 2014 15: 35
      +2
      Quote: Novel 1977
      In Peru with might and main on the tests of the T-90,

      Too long have been experiencing.
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Colombia has no tanks at all

      Colombia even looked at the Merkavas.
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 4 February 2014 15: 49
        +3
        Quote: Kars
        Too long have been experiencing.

        Nevertheless, they do. Peru is not a rich country, it wants more and cheaper. Plus the main rival in the Chilean region "Leopards-2". And besides, Russia supplies T-90S with state credit, which Ukraine will never be able to afford, it is a pittance, but Spain with its Leopard-2 too.
        Moreover, as long as Ukraine’s ability to fulfill its contractual obligations is not confirmed by the execution of the Thai contract, no one in their right mind will conclude a large tank agreement with it. There are too many examples of frankly breaking contracts or deadlines (the same Iraqi contract for BTR-4, etc., etc.). Well, political stabilization is necessary for such contracts, as well as good relations with Russia, because under Yushchenko, many CIS and Third World countries shied away from affairs with Kiev precisely because of fears of spoiling relations with the Kremlin. Yes, and the customer may require a certain customization, for example, Belarusian sights, or guarantees for the supply of Russian trunks if that.
        Quote: Kars
        Colombia even looked at the Merkavas.

        You never know who asked the price, now Colombia is asking the price of the Chilean "Leopard-1V", which the Chileans write off in order to switch to the "Leopard-2" and the Austrian "Leopard-2A4", which should be removed from service with the Austrian Armed Forces at the end of 2013 to reduce defense spending.
        NE Colombia has already appreciated the possibility of purchasing MBT Leclerc from the French Armed Forces, Leopard-1A5 from the German Armed Forces, MBT Leopard-1V from the Chilean Armed Forces.

        http://www.military-informant.com/index.php/army/3214-1.html

        As they say, wanting is not harmful.
        1. Kars
          Kars 4 February 2014 17: 06
          +2
          Quote: Novel 1977
          Still experiencing.

          And who is stopping the tank for the gift of pokatatsa?
          Quote: Novel 1977
          Plus the main rival in the Chilean region "Leopards-2".

          This is rather a minus. If the Polish conditions are repeated.
          Quote: Novel 1977
          . And besides, Russia supplies T-90С with state credit,

          This is the only trump card of the Russian Federation.
          Quote: Novel 1977
          Moreover, while the ability of Ukraine to fulfill its contractual obligations will not be confirmed by the execution of the Thai contract,

          And why compare Strongholds with T-64? BM Bulat is mass-produced for the Ukrainian army, so your little thing is something that pulls behind the ears.
          Quote: Novel 1977
          no one in their right mind would make a big tank agreement with her

          Oh well, Indonesia is going to buy an BTR-4.
          Quote: Novel 1977
          also - good relations with Russia, because under Yushchenko, many countries of the CIS and the Third World from affairs with Kiev
          and who is this? don’t give a list?

          Quote: Novel 1977
          Who knows what they were asking,
          This suggests a broad spectrum search.

          Quote: Novel 1977
          As they say, wanting is not harmful.

          Harmful not want))))
          1. velikoros-xnumx
            velikoros-xnumx 4 February 2014 21: 45
            -5
            Quote: Kars
            Quote: Roman 1977. And besides, Russia supplies T-90S with a state loan, This is the only trump card of the Russian Federation.

            Naturally. The t-90s junk does not have other advantages before the freshly painted new t-64. For which I respect you, it’s for unparalleled objectivity in the analysis of the material hi .
            1. Kars
              Kars 4 February 2014 22: 07
              +2
              Quote: velikoros-xnumx
              The t-90 junk has no other advantages over the freshly painted latest t-64

              in accordance with its price, it doesn’t even have bought the T-90 for a long time. An interesting question is whether the T-64 could fly if sold at the price of T-90С
              Quote: velikoros-xnumx
              For what respect you

              That’s what and I don’t need your respect.
  10. Victor Wolz
    Victor Wolz 4 February 2014 18: 46
    0
    I heard that the t-64 has a weak running gear, I don’t know how much this has been eliminated on the modernized T-64.
  11. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 4 February 2014 19: 21
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Tank Maidan has begun ..! winked

    it’s not a joke or malice ..! I looked at the photo and it just seemed like that ... Since every tank and how much work and soul was invested ... the forgotten but Proud rusted in the open air (judging by the raised cannon trunks ..) angry It always hurts to look at such photos of devastation
    1. Kars
      Kars 4 February 2014 19: 29
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      . rusted abandoned in the open forgotten but Proud

      somewhere beyond the Urals.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 4 February 2014 20: 54
        +1
        Quote: Kars
        Quote: MIKHAN
        . rusted abandoned in the open forgotten but Proud

        somewhere beyond the Urals.

        From the GDR when the troops were withdrawn under the Gorbachev .. I saw a newsreel .. just in the steppe there were thousands of tanks materiel a terrible sight .. And in the photo "beyond the Urals" this is a normal cemetery of decommissioned equipment .. And tank factories in Russia are working (bad or good) and new tanks are being produced and modernized and it pleases and they are fighting! And I would also like to notice in your photo the cannon barrels are not raised ...! Put your tanks and crews on the tank biathlon! I will be sick .. Although I think you have no time for tanks now .. and even more so for biathlon .. heh heh You are in vain to run into the Urals ... bully
        1. Kars
          Kars 4 February 2014 22: 47
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          But tank factories in Russia are working (poorly or well), and new tanks are being manufactured and upgraded, and this is good and they are fighting!

          Tank factories? Maybe a tank plant?
          And they don’t let out new tanks, and the military is trying to disown the modernized ones.
          Quote: MIKHAN
          And I would also like to note that on your photo the gun barrels are not raised ...

          Far raised.
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Expose your tanks and crews to tank biathlon!

          So it seems they have already announced that they will go))
  12. Leshka
    Leshka 4 February 2014 20: 10
    +1
    it’s a pity that they’re not modernizing their army
    1. alone
      alone 4 February 2014 20: 56
      +3
      To modernize for your army you need finances. Here they offer T-64 to foreign countries. There are a lot of tanks of this brand there. They will sell the party. They will receive money, they will make it for themselves.
      This is still better than stupidly write them off for scrap.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 4 February 2014 21: 34
        +2
        Quote: lonely
        To modernize for your army you need finances. Here they offer T-64 to foreign countries. There are a lot of tanks of this brand there. They will sell the party. They will receive money, they will make it for themselves.
        This is still better than stupidly write them off for scrap.

        Azerbaijan can buy ..? laughing (joke)
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 5 February 2014 01: 58
          0
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Azerbaijan can buy ..? (joke)
          no really smile Thank you, we better take the Russian T-90s fellow
          1. sapran
            sapran 5 February 2014 03: 31
            0
            And you will be right in your own way, since the buyer himself chooses what he needs and in what quantities ...
            In PERU, most likely, "will win" a lot and for cheap not the T-90S, but the T-72
            Actually, the modernization of the T-64, for example, with the E index, is focused on the hot desert climate and the tropics of Asia.
            The second direction is "reanimation" and expansion of cooperation in Pakistan (it is worth adding a rolled-welded tower and an MSA to the logistics), here the interests of Pakistan, China and Ukraine are affected (maybe it will burn out here)
            ... and the Marine Corps of the Thai Army will study the possibility of using the T-64 (those more than 54 pieces)