Military Review

Shooting at school: police officers and the deceased teacher will present awards

75
The Minister of Internal Affairs Vladimir Kolokoltsev, who was wounded at a Moscow policeman’s school at the Research Institute of Sklifosovsky, was visited. The minister supported the relatives and friends of police sergeant Vladimir Krokhin. At school 263 in Otradnoe Krokhin was wounded in the chest and stomach.


A police outfit arrived at a Moscow school on call to disarm an armed schoolboy Sergei Gordeyev. At first, the schoolboy shot the geography teacher, and at the sight of the police he opened fire on them, reminds ITAR-TASS.

“The police officers acted professionally and courageously, competently and clearly responded to the situation,” explained Vladimir Kolokoltsev. “It’s hard to imagine how serious the consequences would have been if the police didn’t arrive on time at the scene of the incident.”

The Minister of the Interior met with the head doctor and asked him about the condition of the wounded police officer and the prospects for his recovery. Kolokoltsov also spoke with Krokhin's wife, Natalia, who also works in the police.

Vladimir Kolokoltsev expressed condolences to the relatives of the deceased police ensign Sergei Bushuev, as well as geography teacher Andrei Kirillov.
Policemen Vladimir Krokhin and Sergey Bushuev will be presented to high state awards, the head of the Russian Interior Ministry said.

29-year-old teacher Andrei Kirillov will be introduced to the Order of Courage.

"Kirillov was a geography teacher in high school, a class teacher for fifth grade students. The students loved him, his colleagues were very respectful," said the press center of the Russian Ministry of Education and Science. "Thanks to the courage of this teacher, tens of lives of children and adults were saved.

The ministry is preparing a submission to Russian President Vladimir Putin about awarding a teacher who died in a Moscow school.

Andrei Kirillov has a little daughter. Kirillov's wife also worked at a school in Otradnoe. She taught in junior high.

In fact, a state of emergency at the school opened a case under three articles of the Criminal Code of Russia - "Taking hostages", "Murder" and "Encroachment on the life of law enforcement officers."

According to the Investigation Committee of Russia, the detained teenager is being interrogated. Find out the reasons that prompted the guy to go on a crime. He was assigned a psychological-psychiatric examination, which, according to the relevant "Instructions", can last up to 90 days.

In the near future, the question of the election of tenth-grader Sergei Gordeyev, who has opened fire on teachers and police officers, will be resolved. He faces up to 10 years. In addition, investigators have already begun to question witnesses, among whom are security officers and school administrators, as well as students.
Originator:
http://www.vesti.ru/
75 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. bomg.77
    bomg.77 4 February 2014 08: 04
    +3
    Why reward teachers? Depreciate rewards (((
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 4 February 2014 08: 10
      +21
      Quote: bomg.77
      Why reward teachers? Depreciate rewards (((

      The teacher tried to persuade him not to do the tragedy, i.e. fulfilled his duty to the children.
      I mourn with the whole country for the dead. Everlasting memory. Condolences to the families and friends of the deceased.
    2. Apollo
      Apollo 4 February 2014 08: 23
      +9
      Quote: bomg.77
      Why reward teachers? Depreciate rewards (((


      It is not necessary to stick out your "wit" here in plain sight. It is not the time and place and do not write nonsense, he tried to disarm the killer. That is why he was shot.




      Sobyanin said that security checks will be carried out Moscow educational institutions. As a result of the shooting and hostage incident in this school, according to preliminary data, a police officer and teacher were killed.

      Not only Moscow all Russian educational institutions.It's my opinion.
      1. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 4 February 2014 08: 42
        -4
        Do not write nonsense, he tried to disarm the killer. Therefore, he was shot. = You were there? Still, just like that, no one will kill. If it’s not a kid’s drug, then the halo above the teacher’s head raises deep doubts. Everything is in order version based on the experience of communication with the current education system.
      2. The comment was deleted.
        1. military
          military 4 February 2014 09: 38
          0
          Quote: bomg.77
          Change your mentor tone and be more polite! You systematically write nonsense, with a highly spiritual look.

          +100500 yes
        2. fennekRUS
          fennekRUS 4 February 2014 12: 21
          +1
          thank. I just wanted to say that it’s too early to draw conclusions, and accordingly to give out awards, simply upon the death. wait for the completion of the investigation.
      3. sergey32
        sergey32 4 February 2014 09: 07
        +3
        Again they will spend a lot of money on improving the security system. I am in favor of removing the entire guard from schools and not only schools. These are not sensitive objects. I studied in a Soviet school, our techie Aunt Tanya followed our order, which even young teachers were afraid of.
        What they’ve come to, we’re protecting everyone from someone, we’re afraid of each other. At parent meetings, we sign a bunch of agreements with the school, all sorts of warnings, differentiation of responsibility for children.
        Spawned millions of parasites in black uniforms that do not produce anything, just fill out the visit logs. But you will not find the production of working hands.
        How does a tragedy happen, everything, howling to the whole country. A month later they forgot. Every day on our roads, a hundred die. Is someone going to abandon the car?
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 4 February 2014 13: 48
          +4
          Sergey32, please tell me when you were in the schools all day? As you put it, they gave birth to parasites, so protection is less or less and ensures public safety (in schools, they are only afraid of a big uncle (neither the director nor the teacher will expel them from the school, but they can be insulted or hit, you can take everything you need from the youngest or weakest). It all starts with the family — if the parents didn’t instill the norms of behavior for the children, then the tricks of these little girls are appropriate. You parents would have been blown up for disgusting behavior in the Soviet school, and in Russian they filed a lawsuit to school for poor education. Yes, and in the USSR, a policeman (who performed his duties honestly — every local resident knew and knew all his names by name and patronymic) stood on every corner, there was a comradely court and LTP, and there was an article in the Criminal Code for parasitism. So you don’t have to go from the sore head to the whole organism. It’s bad that everyone clung to the little tag-but no one thought that teachers every They are doing titanic work to teach our siblings at least something, with the education system being constantly reworked
      4. military
        military 4 February 2014 09: 37
        +4
        Quote: Apollon
        It is not necessary to stick out your "wit" here in plain sight.

        stupidity is a double-edged thing ... it's worth remembering ...
        by the way, "persuading" and "disarming" are far from adequate concepts ...
        by the way ... if the teacher remained alive, having achieved the goal and "disarming" the shooter with persuasion, he would not have received the Order of Courage, but a certificate of honor from the Ministry of Internal Affairs and a photo on the school board of honor ... as a maximum ...
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 4 February 2014 16: 49
          +4
          Quote: military
          if the teacher had remained alive, having achieved the goal and “disarming” the shooter with persuasion, he would have received not the Order of Courage, but a certificate of honor from the Ministry of Internal Affairs and a photo on the school board of honor ... as a maximum ...


          Would you be fired for unsuitability or transferred to another school, what is the board of honor and diploma? Nobody would have taken the dirty linen out of the hut, they would have hushed up everything quietly.
          1. military
            military 4 February 2014 17: 07
            +3
            Quote: Ascetic
            Would you be fired for unsuitability or transferred to another school, what is the board of honor and diploma? Nobody would have taken the dirty linen out of the hut, they would have hushed up everything quietly.

            a very likely option ... yes
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 4 February 2014 17: 32
              +2
              Quote: military
              quite likely option.


              The parent would have paid the police so that the protocol would not be drawn up together with the school principal, plus two more times for violating the rules for keeping the smoothbore ... And if the headmistress and the teacher’s communication center didn’t care. Detina, too, if the parent didn’t tidy up the director three times already paid like the cops winked
      5. StolzSS
        StolzSS 4 February 2014 22: 48
        +1
        There’s nothing to check and I’ll say it’s safe in our schools and it didn’t smell .... The only thing that saves the situation is that we have a rather quiet city in terms of shooting ...
        Yes, and youngsters now have computer games in the head, well, who has sports sections in general that would tighten the safety mode in schools to normal control of the territory and students will have to spend money and guard the surveillance system of the frame and a bunch of other things ... I don’t think that this is necessary yes and it’s expensive ... we need a systematic approach in all directions ... and as for this matter, it’s not all right for a simple guy of 15 years old how difficult it is to decide this and the character warehouse needs a rather specific one .... so it’s better to leave specialists to deal with this we still will not be told the whole truth ....
    3. igordok
      igordok 4 February 2014 09: 32
      +2
      Quote: bomg.77
      Why reward teachers? Depreciate rewards (((

      Police officers for awards. - I agree
      Teachers for rewards. - I do not agree. According to information, he provoked a conflict. He is a teacher. His work does not bring to conflict. Here it is necessary to help his family. Both psychologically and morally.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 4 February 2014 09: 48
        +3
        Quote: igordok

        Police officers for awards. - I agree
        Teachers for rewards. - I do not agree.

        Well, what did you all make a bucket because of the award ??? This is probably the main yes fool
      2. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 4 February 2014 12: 25
        +2
        do not agree. unprofessionally worked. The armor was probably left on patrol, they went in as a "drill" ... but they could have survived. Guys, sorry. as people. There must be someone from the Interior Ministry here. How to act according to the instructions when taking hostages or taking an armed criminal?
    4. ed1968
      ed1968 4 February 2014 09: 57
      +8
      you regretted the deceased a medal to the deceased, and maybe a hero yourself? isn’t you ashamed of yourself? and I’ll answer in secret in our country the medals have been handed out left and right for a long time without any significant merit. Well, who better to reward a teacher who may have given his life to save people or a beautifully smiling next embezzler?
    5. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 4 February 2014 10: 29
      0
      That's right, he had to solder the reprimand posthumously.
      1. alone
        alone 4 February 2014 21: 00
        0
        There were reports on the websites that the criminal’s father was an FSB officer. I don’t know this is true (you can expect anything from the media), but you still need to find out why the weapon was in an accessible place for a teenager. Father is also to blame.
        1. StolzSS
          StolzSS 4 February 2014 22: 51
          +1
          Echo of the war))) I also had a revolver when I was 16 years old and that I only took it to school 2 times for a show-off ... we somehow didn’t think to shoot at our own though we shot normally at the hills in the bottles ... hi
  2. Duke
    Duke 4 February 2014 08: 04
    +4
    It's good that they respond quickly with awards
    1. military
      military 4 February 2014 09: 40
      +3
      Quote: Duke
      It's good that they respond quickly with awards

      it’s bad that nothing else comes to my mind ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 4 February 2014 09: 49
        +2
        Quote: military
        it’s bad that nothing else comes to my mind ...

        Well, tell me something smart. Or you just have to criticize the tragedy.
        1. military
          military 4 February 2014 10: 20
          -2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Well, tell me something smart

          so far to us, our many-sided ... laughing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 4 February 2014 11: 26
            +1
            Quote: military
            so far to us, our many-faced.

            This is smart or you thought you were joking funny.
            1. The comment was deleted.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 4 February 2014 11: 52
                +2
                Quote: military
                ..............deleted by moderator Apollo

                Well, this is the maximum that you have enough for, but in the case of zero. Everything, you can be free.
                1. military
                  military 5 February 2014 09: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: military .............. deleted by moderator Apollo

                  this, I think, within the framework of "solidarity and mutual assistance" ... laughing
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 4 February 2014 08: 05
    +5
    Children can not only give weapons but even show them.


  4. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 4 February 2014 08: 28
    +15
    The teacher was clearly not a timid one .. He took upon himself all the anger of a maniac-teenager .. While he was thinking "What is death .." time was won. Thank God the children were not injured .. The police could have opened fire to kill but did not, for obvious reasons, one was killed the second was seriously wounded .. Painful.! This is the result of the propaganda of the violence of the lack of spirituality of shooters .. and other things ...
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 4 February 2014 08: 36
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Here it is the result of propaganda of violence of lack of spirituality of shooters .. and other things ...
      good
      Brevity is the soul of wit.
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 4 February 2014 12: 02
      +4
      Here it is the result of propaganda of violence of lack of spirituality of shooters .. and other things ...


      And not only this.
      The lack of proper moral, patriotic, labor education in the education system and its replacement with the education of a spiritually uninspired consumer with a bunch of rights and lack of duties.
      The propaganda in the society of the cult of violence, the right of the strong, the right of money before the labor of a simple teacher, a simple ordinary worker.
      The absence of a teacher for students at the school of worship, neglect of his knowledge, life experience on the part of the students' parents, passed on to his children.
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 4 February 2014 12: 51
        0
        Quote: vladimirZ
        And not only this.

        I agree with everything ...... +
        Well, plus-Unprofessional actions of the police, against ONE person, unprepared, leading to the death (of a person)) of a law enforcement officer.
        From whom can they protect, since they serve so ???
        Society is in danger ..... EVERYTHING.
        1. olegff68
          olegff68 4 February 2014 15: 17
          +2
          Quote: Asgard

          Well, plus-Unprofessional actions of the police, against ONE person .... From whom can they protect, since they serve ???
          Society is in danger ..... EVERYTHING.

          Asgard in its repertoire - "I am Dartanyan, all the other pi..s" - "I am a professional, and all the cops are mudaki"
          REALITY FOLLOWING: 1) with protective equipment in the police force is even worse than in the army, given that it is extremely bad in the army, there is no way for the police at all (there is no way to take army koi into patrol)
          2) A signal went off in the duty room, for which reason no one knows (maybe a fight, or a homeless person rushed into the school and rowdy, as a rule everyday life ...), the duty room sends the NEAREST CREW to find out - maybe on foot.
          3) What happened next was either a fatal accident (they unexpectedly collided when clarifying the reasons for the alarm and ...), or having found out the "intelligence" did not have the opportunity (conscience, desire) to retire - in any case, the situation is not simple ...
          AND ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT GOING IN SCHOOLTO EXPLAIN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE WEAPONS WOULD BE DRAWED OUT IMMEDIATELY, AND SEEING A SCHOOLCHILDREN (LET EVEN EVEN ARMED) WOULD HAVE FOUNDED IT IMMEDIATELY, OR HEAD HEAD, OR MENTALLY AWAY.
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 4 February 2014 16: 55
            +3
            Quote: olegff68
            GOING IN SCHOOL TO EXPLAIN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE WEAPONS WOULD BE DRAWED OUT IMMEDIATELY, AND SEEING A SCHOOLCHILDREN (LET EVEN EVEN ARMED) IMMEDIATELY HAVE FOUND IT,


            Article immediately and demon to Nizhny Tagil IK-13.
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 4 February 2014 16: 59
              0
              Mdaaa - and I thought that only this schoolboy had a lid gone.
      2. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 5 February 2014 06: 28
        0
        I’ll add to my comment, after yesterday’s broadcast of Malakhov on Channel 1, dedicated to this tragedy in a Moscow school.
        No one at the discussion with Malakhov said the true reasons for the tragedy, the killing of a teacher by a student because of the promised 4 geography.
        Everyone was talking some kind of nonsense.
        Who proposed to introduce police posts at the school "to protect the most valuable thing we have - children", who introduced preventive checks on the rules for keeping hunters' weapons and self-defense weapons at home, who generally proposed to prohibit keeping firearms at home, put metal detectors on school entrance and other nonsense.
        One gets the impression that we have people ... who do not understand life situations and do not even remember how they used to go to the Soviet school, which is not guarded by anyone with wide open doors for everyone who wants to go in there, with mugs and sports sections, with choirs and dance and theater studios. To the school where they taught friendship, communication, love, respect for elders, and even more so for the Teacher.
        The trouble is not at Moscow’s school such and such, The trouble in our society, in the educational system, educating single people, fixated in themselves and perceiving others as enemies.
        In the end, the point is in our supreme state power, which gave birth to the capitalist social principle "man to man is a wolf". This is where the roots of the tragedy are.
    3. StolzSS
      StolzSS 4 February 2014 22: 53
      +1
      Could not violate the instructions ... the situation is generally crappy ... and the level of shooting training of the cops is not that plus, you probably don’t take into account that you would have to shoot at a teenager, and this is harder than a bearded wahhabi, I assure you ...
  5. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 4 February 2014 08: 32
    +11
    I think that this TRAGEDY is the result of continuous action films on TV, an avalanche of cruel, bloodthirsty games, almost every month of the message that in an "exclusive" country, another "hero" of them killed someone. All this devalues ​​the very LIFE of a person, demoralizes the younger generation, breaks their psyche. It is necessary to return the CENSOR, and do not pay attention to the LibeRast's SCREAMS. And it is necessary to raise the authority of teachers, to carry out educational work with children, so that, even if, in the opinion of the student, an underestimated assessment of his knowledge, would not be a reason to "settle scores" with the teacher, but was a reason to improve this knowledge.
    The kingdom of heaven to the dead, condolences to relatives.
    1. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 4 February 2014 12: 29
      +1
      here I will support. only the teachers themselves should first of all raise the "authority of teachers". AUTHORITY, he is such a thing, he HAS to earn money. Unfortunately, I don't see this in the current school. Indifference and rustle of bills in the eyes of teachers. Where does authority come from?
  6. Bugivugi
    Bugivugi 4 February 2014 08: 33
    +1
    We must first understand why the teenager came to this teacher.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 4 February 2014 08: 38
      +3
      Quote: Bugivugi
      We must first understand why the teenager came to this teacher.

      the class was located on the ground floor, and the psycho killer didn’t care.
      1. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 4 February 2014 12: 31
        +2
        Do not rush to hang labels. hasty judgment is always superficial.
    2. predator.3
      predator.3 4 February 2014 09: 01
      +3
      Quote: Bugivugi
      We must first understand why the teenager came to this teacher.


      Yes, first you really need to figure out what happened to the guy, what exactly is this teacher for? And then in a day they began to distribute orders, but I agree that the police deserved it, maybe they should not have meddled in the class, because they knew that the boy was armed!
      1. BIGLESHIY
        BIGLESHIY 4 February 2014 14: 52
        0
        Here is one version: the guy pulled for a gold medal at the end of school, but it was this teacher who hacked his dream to a medal, so the guy freaked out and went to school with a gun, as he himself put it "to show the true value of life."
    3. olegff68
      olegff68 4 February 2014 17: 20
      +5
      Quote: Bugivugi
      We must first understand why the teenager came to this teacher.

      What is there to understand?!?!
      If everyone who is dissatisfied with the teacher will return to school with weapons or explosives, then we will SCREAM !!!
      It must be judged TESTIMONY TOGETHER WITH DADDY and both as long as possible !!!!
      Children need to be taught good, eternal, bright, and not at a shooting range to drag a fragile children's mind, they will learn bad themselves !!! And since he brought weapons at home - watch him as expected, I’m not afraid to say - MILITARY - starting from storage and ending with caring for him !!!
      1. StolzSS
        StolzSS 4 February 2014 23: 01
        0
        What shooting range didn’t please you ??? Well, one defective guy got caught and now what ??? It’s like when we were studying at school we didn’t think our teachers would bring us down, we had fun playing football hard with them and that was quite enough ... We were taught to shoot at the school, we have a pneumatic shooting range there and none of our school has seemed to thundered with left shooting, and thank God, and the fact that the system malfunctioned and the guy stumbled is obvious, but right there it is necessary to understand thoroughly such things from scratch ... and how can you fill up geography with 4 ku if you need a medal? ?? Why are they darkening ...
  7. Voinnet
    Voinnet 4 February 2014 08: 36
    +4
    To which of course the country has come .. people think again, save the future of your children and grandchildren ((
  8. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 4 February 2014 08: 37
    +6
    Another consequence of the tragedy will be another rule-making screw tightening and legislative itching of Yarovaya and others like her ... Instead of normalizing the work of the permitting inspection of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it’s forbidden to ...
    The term is also necessary for the dad of the juvenile diving. For negligent possession of weapons leading to murder.
    Condolences to the families of the victims. I wish recovery to the wounded employee ...
    How it was actually not yet clear. No infographics have yet been seen to analyze the actions of the police on the spot.
  9. Same lech
    Same lech 4 February 2014 08: 40
    +7
    legislative itching of Spring and others like her.

    Spring is just taking advantage of the moment — in the wave of emotions to push through their versions of laws — such a practice is unacceptable for a state person.

    Komsomol also launched its own version of the behavior of a teenager - a killer .. allegedly he was an ardent homophobic, like that !!!! In general, every LIBERAST wants to squeeze the maximum out of this tragedy.
  10. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 4 February 2014 08: 47
    +17
    The guy, a typical "nerd", was difficult to study, but he went to the "gold" was a closed authority and did not use much ... taught him to use weapons (learned to shoot straight) So an inferiority complex developed (I think my father tried to educate him too harshly) at school, they humiliated him at home, crushed him .. So he decided to prove how "cool" he is in such a wild way .. Think guys ..
  11. T80UM1
    T80UM1 4 February 2014 08: 48
    +6
    Someone else advocates the legalization of weapons, then everyone will shoot at the offenders ...
    1. SlavaS
      SlavaS 4 February 2014 12: 27
      0
      Yes, and so the whole class would shoot back from the offender and everything would be fine ...
  12. shitovmg
    shitovmg 4 February 2014 09: 00
    +3
    I think that teachers will not be awarded in vain, we just don’t still know.
  13. Diter
    Diter 4 February 2014 09: 02
    +5
    By the nature of the wounds of the surviving policeman, it can be assumed that he was without body armor. If so, then why did he go to detention not equipped?
    1. military
      military 4 February 2014 09: 57
      +3
      Quote: Diter
      By the nature of the wounds of the surviving policeman, it can be assumed that he was without body armor. If so, then why did he go to detention not equipped?

      but this question is very interesting ... and the answer depends on where exactly that "panic button" was put in ... I will assume that they were sent to the duty room of the nearest police department ... and they were "sent" to school, most likely, by the duty outfit police ... like, "there was a call" ... or, in general, they contacted the nearest traveling patrol by radio ... neither of those nor the other armored vehicles ...
    2. rus9875
      rus9875 4 February 2014 11: 15
      0
      no bulletproof vest will save you from firing buckshot at close range from a saiga
  14. Puler
    Puler 4 February 2014 09: 26
    +1
    I really hope that the profile committees will not leave widows who have lost breadwinners ... the fathers of their sons will not return ... condolences ..
  15. Pohmelniy
    Pohmelniy 4 February 2014 09: 29
    +15
    I recall my school years that fell on 90. Then fathers hunted for many children, and their sons were introduced to this matter. Shotguns and cartridges were cleaned maximum in a sofa or under a bed. And with all this, in case someone pulls a gun, even just shoot in the forest, I don’t remember. Carried the capsule and gunpowder - it was a matter, but no more.
    Recently, the upbringing function assigned to parents has been performed by TV and the Internet.
    1. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 4 February 2014 12: 33
      +1
      wooooptt! finally sounded.
    2. igordok
      igordok 4 February 2014 13: 27
      +2
      Quote: Pohmelniy
      I recall my school years that fell on 90. Then fathers hunted for many children, and their sons were introduced to this matter. Shotguns and cartridges were cleaned maximum in a sofa or under a bed. And with all this, in case someone pulls a gun, even just shoot in the forest, I don’t remember. Carried the capsule and gunpowder - it was a matter, but no more.
      Recently, the upbringing function assigned to parents has been performed by TV and the Internet.

      In my years, when they were at enmity with districts, wall to wall, edged weapons were often brought to school. And never (maybe somewhere was) used against teachers, although so many teachers got. Many teachers, if they got up between the fighting, the fight stopped. Teachers - it was something like a saint (although many were kozlov). Raising a hand at the teacher was possible only in a nightmare.
      Where there is "freedom" - everything is possible. And here we have "freedom". Congratulations. I see no joyful applause.
  16. amicus
    amicus 4 February 2014 09: 31
    +6
    ".. Sobyanin said that a check of the security systems of Moscow educational institutions will be carried out .."
    Who will explain comrade Sobyanin what else do you need to ask dad
    arrow, why do he have weapons at home several trunks are stored in the public domain. Why the district police officer who should control the trunks on his hands
    did not check the availability of a safe ..
    And to hit the tails .. this is not a method ..
    In addition, the guard tried to stop the killer at the entrance, but he threatened with a weapon. So the guards in schools
    start arming?
    1. shower
      shower 4 February 2014 11: 03
      +1
      Which guard, maximum watchman with panic button? More and not required. He performed the function, the fellow pressed the button, did not sacrifice himself, I do not blame him, everyone’s personal right.
  17. smith7
    smith7 4 February 2014 09: 34
    +5
    We don't know the details ... Why condemn? "Judge not lest ye be judged!" This is not to demonstrate indifference to what is happening, but to the fact that "someone else's soul is darkness." A schoolboy shot people at school - a tragedy. Children lack spiritual education, education of universal human values, concepts of good and evil, observance of the law - this is a fact. At all times this could happen, regardless of the regime and form of government. No one has canceled the human sinful essence. Will we be able to learn from this grief and what lesson - that's what to think about at the time. In the United States, this has happened more than once in recent years. Conclusion: focusing on "democratic values" in the last 25 years we have come to such a tragedy, having brought up a generation of soulless people. Or not? Which is better: the truly democratic "totalitarianism" of the Stalinist era with the idea of ​​raising the worker-worker for the good of society or the "inviolability of private property" and the capitalist "free" market?
  18. amicus
    amicus 4 February 2014 09: 36
    +10
    But what else upsets this is that the first channel and the immoral type of Malakhov managed to create the show from the tragedy!
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 4 February 2014 09: 47
      +6
      This trickster harms our children no less than computer shooters. At the most visited time on the first channel it shows all the shit that they managed to pick around the country, and then suck it up with shouts and screams.
  19. Not served
    Not served 4 February 2014 10: 15
    +2
    The guy shot at the police from the window, they did not even have time to go anywhere. Everywhere is mentioned a rifle, and not a gun, for example, and a gun. So the weapon was rifled, so a police armor would not help much. Information also leaked that the father was either a policeman or an FSB officer. Issues on access to weapons will probably be serious.
    Most of all in this story, the actions of the school guard are not understood, judging by the behavior of the police they did not represent the situation at all. Those. they were not warned, the guard simply pressed the panic button.
    Of course, there are a lot of questions for education ... it is worth thinking very seriously. Often we want from children what they themselves do not want and cannot. The class teacher feels that the situation in the class was not owned or controlled at all. And why the guy with this problem did not go to him, or the parents are also not clear.
    Damn, we prohibit porn, but action films, shooters and other "yes, no problem."
    1. military
      military 4 February 2014 10: 37
      +1
      Quote: Didn't serve
      Those. they were not warned, the guard simply pressed the panic button.

      But how do you imagine this? ... belay
      "- Wait, kid, right now I'll call the policemen to leave, and we'll go with you to the offices ..."
      1. Not served
        Not served 4 February 2014 10: 57
        +3
        Perhaps you are right ....
        The police guys are very sorry .... Condolences to the relatives of all the victims.
        Health and courage to the wounded.
    2. The comment was deleted.
  20. ayuric
    ayuric 4 February 2014 10: 28
    +2
    +1000
    Quote: Takashi
    By the way, in childhood I also had access to weapons. It was stored by the uncle under the bed. Not once, what kind of conflicts didn’t happen (fights \ taking money \ 2nd ki for items), never even a thought arose - go and get a weapon.

    Only having exceeded the 30-nickname I feel nostalgia for arms. For there are so many morons who just want to shoot (directors \ chief engineers \ managers \ are simply not adequate in stores \)


    +1000
    1. shower
      shower 4 February 2014 11: 22
      0
      It’s scary to think about how many people in society with the makings of God, to decide someone else’s fate just by clicking on the hook.
  21. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 4 February 2014 10: 47
    +3
    First of all, the "hero of Russia" should be given to the security guard, who escorted the teenager with two guns to where he demanded. I then imagined that it was the security guard who was at the forefront of the defense and had to at least get involved in a fight with an armed man, including taking on the first bullets on the basis that a) the noise of shots at the entrance at least disrupts the effect of surprise in the school as a whole and b) each a bullet fired at you is a bullet that the child did not get or a minimum of time to reload and see point "a".
    Although a private security company is a private security company, an expensive SUV or a "respectable person" will drive up an expensive SUV or a "respectable person" who is ingratiating trying to serve, open the gates and let them pass without even asking "who is", as a parent or a person on business to let them in, so they make themselves out of themselves as a little king with power, but as a weapon they saw , so ... I don't want to talk.
    PS Previously, there were other times: either in the late 80s, or in the early 90s, my friend brought a grenade to the school with a sealed chika from the time of the Second World War, the teacher of the NEF selected that it wasn’t good, that’s what they parted with, even their parents were not called. True, then people even in their thoughts did not have something to blow up or kill.
  22. shower
    shower 4 February 2014 10: 48
    0
    I would like to wait for the results of the official investigation. The police are very sorry, without bulletproof vests they arrived at the alarm button, there was probably no information about the armed person, you never know who the spanker is spoiling or what kind of drunk. Evaluation must be given to all actions, and all from Parents to the Teacher, there both medals and punishments will find their heroes.
  23. Pohmelniy
    Pohmelniy 4 February 2014 10: 49
    +2
    Quote: Dr.Faust.Patron
    What do you mean by that?

    I wanted to say by this that it wasn’t in schoolchildren’s thoughts to settle personal scores with the help of weapons. And not because it was not available to them.
    Quote: Dr.Faust.Patron
    Well, you ... you drank gunpowder at the parent, and so what?

    This was done because of natural curiosity. We did a lot of things because magnesium, nitrate, carbide were also in the public domain. BUT even with home-made guns and ignitions they shot at a tree, to see how much the fraction will go in. There was no thought to harm anyone. The next generation has become much more cruel.
  24. rus9875
    rus9875 4 February 2014 11: 31
    -2
    Why is it interesting in the media there is no hysteria about the nationality of the gunman? If some Caucasian or Asian had done something like that, then all the media were screaming about what kind of animals they are that have long lost their human appearance, but if the criminal belongs to the titular nation, then the West, the Internet, shooters, etc. are always to blame. we bring up our children incorrectly, that mutual hatred and intolerance reign in our society, that a generation has grown up for which money, a career
    or even just a gold medal for study is more important than human life and no one remembers
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 4 February 2014 11: 40
      +2
      In this info that I post, the answers to many questions. So.

      15-year-old student kills teacher and policeman with Browning rifle

      Sergei Bushuyev did not save policeman from death even body armor: a bullet through an unprotected shoulder entered a man's chest.

      LifeNews found out the details of the tragedy in the capital's school number 263, where the teacher of geography Andrei Kirillov and the ensign of the police Sergei Bushuev were killed at the hands of a 15-year-old student of grade 10 "A".

      38-year-old Bushuev arrived at the scene of the emergency as part of the arrest group of the private security department after the officer on duty at the school of the private security company "Saturn" pressed the alarm button.

      “The policeman went up to the class where the criminal took the hostages and, having crouched down, opened the door,” a law enforcement source told LifeNews. - At that moment, a shot rang out.

      15-year-old Sergey G. shot from a distance of two and a half meters. Apparently, the teenager was well aware that he was wearing a bulletproof vest and was aiming at an unprotected part of his body.

      “In total, the student fired 10 bullets at the teacher and two employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs,” continues the LifeNews interlocutor. - Moreover, both policemen received identical injuries. Only the first bullet pierced the artery and went into the chest - he died of heavy bleeding.

      Senior sergeant - 29-year-old Vladimir Krokhin arrived at school already with reinforcements. He went to the classroom to pull Sergei Bushuev, a wounded OBO fighter, from the zone of fire. Krokhin’s 22 caliber bullet also hit his shoulder, but he survived.

      As LifeNews found out, Sergei G. brought two rifles to the school - a Finnish Tikka T3 and a small-bore Japanese-made Browning. It was from the latter that the schoolboy shot.
      Judging by how he did this, he has good shooting skills, ”concluded the source of LifeNews.

      Earlier, Sergey’s classmates told LifeNews that he boasted at school about his successes in developing weapons at shooting ranges, where his father took him.

      http://lifenews.ru/news/126555
  25. ReifA
    ReifA 4 February 2014 11: 53
    +4
    The result of modern education, in schools, on television, on the Internet \ contacts \ one-eyed, etc.
    And the most offensive thing is that, at best, after the noise, they will add a guard in several schools and "the problem is solved."
    The father always had a service weapon. Grandfather had a pistol and a box of cartridges in his secretary. Even when dad "brought up" with a rubber band, from the first-aid kit (there was a crap like a belt), thoughts about weapons did not fly in, apparently everyone flew out =)
  26. fennekRUS
    fennekRUS 4 February 2014 12: 53
    0
    A schoolboy even now in the liquidators. from the melkan put three ... this ... not even a word. Guys, what are we doing? It is our children who grow SUCH. We educate them .. or we don’t educate them.
    Ps And the vultures already make political capital
  27. remez
    remez 4 February 2014 13: 20
    +3
    I reward teachers, especially with the Order of Courage, to put it mildly stupid, the guy with the torn roof clearly had a conflict with the teacher, because he killed him, and not his guard at the same time or another teacher, in this conflict there is no small fault and the teacher himself. the guy could and hanged himself in a quiet corner with a suicide note blaming the teacher for everything. then who would the teacher be? obviously not a hero ... it all depends on the media handouts as they imagine it. how many such cases in the country are the student suicides due to a conflict with a teacher? already enough. and comrade policemen, in my opinion, acted extremely unprofessionally if both of them ran into a bullet from a snot. they loved infa was not armed with a slingshot and hostages, and they who special forces psychologists? Compensation for the families of the victims is one thing, and rewarding these people I think is not acceptable. awards are not so scattered !! especially for a teacher.
  28. 5pgpat5
    5pgpat5 4 February 2014 14: 56
    +2
    The White House is probably very happy, because democracy in Russia is one step closer to their standard.
  29. Bassoon
    Bassoon 4 February 2014 19: 56
    +2
    I studied at this school until the 9th grade, and then moved to another. It hurts me three times from the fact that some psycho started a massacre there, which claimed the lives of people .... The families of the deceased are condolences ....
  30. vjatsergey
    vjatsergey 5 February 2014 06: 16
    0
    most of all in this story the actions of the guard are surprising. Why is it set there? In order to escort the criminal to the classroom door? He, as a border guard at the border, was supposed to breastfeel in defense of the school. It’s very interesting - doesn’t his conscience torment now that people died through his fault?