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Alexander Rosenbaum in Afghanistan

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Today the name of Alexander Rosenbaum is familiar to millions of Russians. This is a famous Russian songwriter who, in general, needs no introduction, his work is loved and respected by millions of people. The form of his work is very close to the author or as it is also called bard song. The artist gained the greatest popularity in 1985-90's as a singer who wrote and performed many “Afghan” songs. The Afghan war was known to the singer firsthand, during the war he often visited Soviet units, giving concerts in them. Alexander Yakovlevich Rosenbaum himself is a retired military man; in 2000, by order of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, he was given the rank of colonel of medical service of the reserve.


It is worth noting that the arrival of artists on the front line is quite an old tradition, since the days of the Civil War, when special front propaganda teams appeared on both sides. It took a much larger scale during the Great Patriotic War. During the war years, front-line teams of artists gave almost 1,5 a million concerts — 10 concerts a day. And although now the newspaper headlines of the war years seem boring and trite: “The artists inspired the fighters before the battle,” “The Muses didn’t keep silence,” “Art helped to forge the Victory,” behind all these propaganda stamps, the 100-percent was hidden from print. a life.

For example, the Soviet artist Lydia Ruslanova was dubbed by the people the “Guard of the People’s Artist”. Throughout the Great Patriotic War, she spoke to the Soviet soldiers on the front. After the surrender of Nazi Germany, her famous concert took place, which was organized on the steps of the captured Reichstag. According to the memoirs of Lyudmila Kairanskaya, Honored Artist of Russia, when Zhukov, Eisenhower and de Gaulle came to the soldiers, they were greeted with applause, but when the announcement was made: "Lidia Ruslanova will speak before you," something simply unimaginable began. So, along with the famous Katyusha multiple launch rocket systems and a tank T-34 Soviet artists contributed to the great Victory.

Alexander Rosenbaum in Afghanistan

This tradition has not disappeared anywhere in 40 years, when domestic artists reached Afghanistan, into which Soviet troops were deployed. Many came to Afghanistan with concerts and not once. Among them are Iosif Kobzon and Lev Leshchenko, Valery Leontyev and Edita P'eha. This list goes on and on, it is quite impressive. They all sang in military clubs or on improvised scenes - two “Urals” shifted to each other. Most of the songs at such concerts were performed at the request of the servicemen themselves. Such concerts were very important, because, according to the “Afghans”, they blew home, a meeting with the Motherland.

However, Alexander Rosenbaum overtook many Soviet performers in popularity. It was he who wrote the most famous song today about the Afghan war, we are talking about the “monologue of the pilot of the Black Tulip. “Black tulips” were called planes that brought zinc with killed soldiers to the Soviet Union. The words of this shrill song survived the war and to this day have a special meaning for all those who managed to visit Afghanistan in those years.

Somehow the already famous artist made such a confession: “On the Afghan war before my first trip there, I wrote only one song -“ In the mountains of Afghanistan. ” Many still love this song. For Rosenbaum, it ceased to exist already after the first trip to the war, because of just one line “Equalize to the banner!”. During the battles in Afghanistan, no one was equal to the banner; there was no political leader Klochkov in that war, because he was part of the Great Patriotic War, of that time. There was no such element in Afghanistan, but Rosenbaum could not have guessed about this before going there. And this line of just two words, to some extent killed the song. Having been in Afghanistan personally, Alexander Rosenbaum wrote “Black Tulip”, “The Road to Life”, “Caravan”, having invested in his songs his own personal feeling of war. He recorded the song "In the Mountains of Afghanistan" on the record, but never performed it again, leaving it just for stories.


After the end of the conflict, Rosenbaum told why he decided to go to this war. He stressed that they were driven not by politics, but by civic duty. He went to Afghanistan not for the wrong war, but for the people who were involved in this conflict, for someone's children, who by the will of fate were in this country. Then he didn’t care if the war was right or not. According to Rosenbaum, the easiest way to talk about this "wrong" of the conflict was to those who managed to otmazats his sons from the army. However, simple Aunt Masha was unable to do this, and her son went to war. It was to these sons that Rosenbaum rode. These soldiers, who could go under the bullets tomorrow, could count on meeting with a famous artist to the same extent as their wealthy peers - Leningrad and Muscovites, whom the war had not touched.

At the same time, the participation of Alexander Rosenbaum in that war was not limited only to concerts. In Afghanistan, he not only sang, he had to shoot, kill, heal people. He survived the war from within, personally met with many of its parties, which exposed human characters. These trips have played a very important role in his life. After the war, he said that he did not regret for a second that he had been in Afghanistan and was happy that he had the courage to be there. He compared the six and a half months he spent on this war with six years of peaceful life. It was a time that affirmed his courage, will, breadth of coverage of people and life, influenced creativity. The unforgettable feeling of front-line fraternity, the merging of people in the face of death, all this forever saved the artist from the danger of skepticism and cynicism, which gave rise to Soviet reality. It was in Afghanistan that he fell in love with the army, and in the future he strongly supported it, protested against the defamation of the armed forces and constantly maintained creative contacts with it.

The ideal officer officer for Rosenbaum was General Boris Gromov. Later, the general spoke very warmly about the artist. According to him, Rosenbaum was a man in whom there was an attractiveness, firmness, from him there was some kind of force that was transmitted to others. In Afghanistan, Alexander not only ambushed and acted with the special forces, he toured a lot of remote outposts. If to compare with other artists who came there with concerts, they mostly performed in clubs and on some more or less adapted scenes for this. Rosenbaum also performed at such sites, but still he tried to spend most of his time where soldiers were hardest.


Having been in Afghanistan, he understood a lot. That war is not just tragedy or horror, but also life in all its manifestations. War and birthdays are celebrated, and weddings are played, there is also their own humor. It’s not for nothing that Terkin was coined in his time. Therefore, it is wrong to speak and talk about the war only as about death, tragedy, horror. War is also life in the highest sound, it is in the war that all feelings reach the highest intensity, since tomorrow everything can end for you. After traveling to Afghanistan, Rosenbaum understood this quite clearly.

Later he talked about the fact that two different Afghanistan lived in his mind. One of them is a foreign land, in which thousands of young people from the USSR died, it’s a wounded soul and personal pain. The second Afghanistan, which is dear to me, is Afghanistan, the courageous and strong people who determined the look of the Soviet army. According to Rosenbaum, in Afghanistan he was fortunate enough to meet a huge number of courageous and strong people, about whom he writes songs and will write them until the very end. The trips to this war became a part of his life, of which he brought out one truth for himself: “if in civilian life, in our daily bustle, you can be replaced by a 10 foot, then in a war, a shoulder will be inserted ten times”.

Information sources:
http://rozenbaum.akkords.ru/articles/80
http://www.bratishka.ru/archiv/2008/9/2008_9_17.php
http://a-rozenbaum.narod.ru/kniga.htm
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  1. kaktus
    kaktus 4 February 2014 07: 21
    17
    And why did he cross on the Maidan ??? negative
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 4 February 2014 09: 03
      17
      I had the opinion that Rosenbaum WAS a good singer and poet-composer, but then he was blown away by liberal hype.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 4 February 2014 20: 38
        +1
        Rosenbaum as it was and remained so. He does not change his views and has not betrayed anyone.
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    2. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 4 February 2014 10: 09
      +1
      Cheto is there in the pictures with a beard or without, and the main thing is just one frame, the stench would now be, "Rosenbaum himself is with us"
      http://pikabu.ru/view/sekret_uspekha_maydana_1902667
    3. zmey_gadukin
      zmey_gadukin 4 February 2014 14: 21
      0
      Quote: kaktus
      And why did he cross on the Maidan ???

      I here in Ukraine know this about me!
      Where does infa come from?
      1. sssla
        sssla 4 February 2014 15: 14
        +1
        Quote: zmey_gadukin
        I here in Ukraine know this about me!
        Where does infa come from?

        Sometimes watch TV news and read the email. and print media hi
    4. muhomor
      muhomor 4 February 2014 21: 58
      +2
      It is being promoted however! The smartest. Probably the Natsiks to him as a Jew, for some reason, to dushe.Potom will say that the people helped the "regime" to throw. And what he threw instead of problems for Russia is nonsense. But an active life position.
    5. Trinity
      Trinity 5 February 2014 00: 06
      -1
      kaktus / This is not Rosenbaum was on the Maidan, just someone's mug like. Rosenbaum won't do that. Still, he is a naval officer, captain of the first rank (in reserve), a military doctor, and will not get in touch with any riffraff.
      1. old rocket man
        old rocket man 5 February 2014 00: 47
        +6
        Quote: trinity
        Rosenbaum won't do that.


        Even as it goes.
        He is the same officer as I am the pope laughing
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 7 February 2014 16: 26
          0
          I would like to ask a question: Who screwed the stars for them? For what merits?
          This is a discredit of a military rank!
      2. Aleksys2
        Aleksys2 5 February 2014 07: 45
        0
        Quote: trinity
        captain of the first rank (in stock), military doctor

        For starters, it’s not a capraise but a colonel m / s in reserve, and he’s never a military doctor, he is no longer a doctor.
  2. Flinky
    Flinky 4 February 2014 07: 31
    +5
    A good, kind man ... Only on the Maidan, why did you come? And so he did not need any PR.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 4 February 2014 07: 53
      +7
      quote-Today the name of Alexander Rosenbaum is familiar to millions of Russians. This is a well-known Russian songwriter who, in general, needs no introduction, his work is loved and respected by millions of people. In form, his work is very close to the author's or as it is also called bard song. The artist gained the greatest popularity in the 1985-90 years as a singer who wrote and performed many “Afghan” songs.

      Afghan Blizzard
      An evil blizzard blew into the faces of the children of Kabul,
      Blinded the fighters who knew cold and heat.
      Be together with him, but
      Half are bulling, half are fighting
      But the best people in a better world have long been
      Quietly sleeping dead,
      Here's a movie.

      In Hairaton, they said goodbye, swore, promised
      Love your life
      And do not touch the trunks.
      Kaby knew if he knew
      Those who later betrayed us,
      I would never give my AKC to anyone.

      Sevastopol We became a host
      The White House, like a burning Pandcher,
      And here near Grozny he shot me
      There is my favorite officer.
      And the earrings tore off my sister,
      So mildly, so light
      He who dug the earth with me
      And dug in Rukh.
      The one who dug the earth with me
      And dug in Rukh.

      A blizzard confuses the arms, legs of the Afghans in the dance,
      Everything is faster and faster.
      The satanic motif of shuravi was picked up
      The tearing wind, but not God, threw the helm
      The one who threw us in the cold
      Today is warm and in honor.

      Flames of the Dniester War
      Born on an Afghan bonfire
      And the afghans dream
      Both banks on the Dniester.
      He buried a Cossack Rostov,
      Mother cursed the killer
      Yes, he is guilty, but a hundred rubles,
      There is someone else to curse.
      He is guilty, but a hundred rubles,
      There is someone else to curse.

      Well you class brothers
      Those who are naked, who are in the stripes,
      Forgotten really
      About the friends killed by their country.
      Again from a new deck
      A sharpie is tossing peoples
      Yes, not aces, sixes
      A cloth takes you.

      Kulebyak in fifteen layers
      And in each there is one who was across the river.
      Why are you doing my grief
      Why don’t you wash away the blood
      With snow-white fangs.

      Ah, what a spring in Firyuze,
      Oh what she was like
      I wish I could go there again
      There would meet friends
      Those with whom conscience is not divorced.
      I wish I could go there again
      Yes there would meet friends
      Those with whom conscience is not divorced.

      Ah, what a spring in Firyuze,
      Ah, what she was.

      Ah, what a spring in Firyuze,
      Ah, what she was.
  3. Hort
    Hort 4 February 2014 08: 21
    +6
    and he is on the Maidan? little face mlyn ...
  4. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 4 February 2014 09: 01
    +5
    When Rosenbaum sang Afghan songs instead of a lullaby or his cassettes, he placed his children, twin boys, if he was busy with something and could not personally attend the euthanasia ...
    In the mountains of Afghanistan is also a good song. Whoever said anything and whatever the opinion of the author himself.
  5. cartridge
    cartridge 4 February 2014 09: 06
    56
    I served in Afghanistan as a soldier, and then as an officer. I do not remember already in the 87th or in the 88th I saw the performance of Rosenbaum in the Kandahar brigade. There were a lot of people. He was warmly welcomed. But here is the fact that he allegedly went to ambush actions with special forces, and even more so killed, forgive me for the harshness, the nonsense of pure water. First of all, who would allow a middle-aged civilian to be taken on combat, jeopardizing his life, and even more so the lives of fighters? Fools ready to run into a meeting with the military prosecutor for the sake of satisfying someone’s whims, I personally did not see, and did not even hear about such people.
    Secondly, the fact that Rosenbaum was killing someone there makes me grin. The spirits were also far from stupid, so that even a real infantryman or special forces soldier, not to mention a visiting guest performer, could easily fall on the spot. If someone thinks that the spooks went there every day to attack with chains like in the movie "9th Company", then I assure you that this is nothing more than Fedka Bondarchuk's fiction. On combat, one still had to try hard to track down and unnoticed to approach the spirits for an attack. Sometimes we spent weeks in the mountains and did not see a single bearded man. And so that they would allow for just so successfully a visiting singer to shoot at himself ... This is a lie! Only if Rosenbaum was allowed to shoot at a scarecrow with a turban at the shooting range, then yes))))
    The minimum performer rate from some seedy Lviv Philharmonic is 75 checks per day. Rosenbaum had a higher bet. At the same time, the soldier received about 20 checks per month. Officer 260 a month, then 310 and since the summer of 88th-390 checks. So do not la la. Making money was the main thing for the guest, and not the mythical participation in the war. This was completely ruled out for them.
    And third, about his alleged treatment of people. Well, it's just fables. Nobody would have let an operating person in the operating table, either then or now. So do not decorate the image of a comrade more than what it was. His songs at that time were very popular and relevant. Thanks for them.
    But there is no need to lie and compose fairy tales about Rosenbaum's "heroic deeds".
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 4 February 2014 09: 27
      11
      Quote: cartridge
      allegedly went to ambush actions with special forces, and even more so killed, sorry for the harshness, the nonsense of pure water

      Quote: cartridge
      that Rosenbaum was killing someone there, makes me grin

      Quote: cartridge
      Making money was the main thing for the guest, and not the mythical participation in the war. This was completely ruled out for them.

      Quote: cartridge
      Nobody would have let an operating person in the operating table, either then or now.

      - Well, I spoiled such a touching PR-article in favor of, as it were, on the board of my own, but "Maidan" campaign of a singer who gave himself away. I treated Rosenbaum evenly and I am equal, without enthusiasm and without fanaticism, I even love some of his songs. But in old age, a person is drawn to his own. It is not surprising that an older person becomes a bit nationalist - a common age effect. And then the aging singer was drawn to his own people, he decided to help the financial kings of the planet (Rosenbaum's fellow tribesmen) take Ukraine away from Russia. Forgive the old man for this, let this demarche be on his conscience.
      And thank you for the very reasonable comments. smile Respect
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 4 February 2014 15: 39
        10
        Quote: aksakal
        Well, he spoiled such a touching PR article in favor of his own, but "Maidan" campaign, betraying himself with the head of the singer.

        I remember how he spun from an ordinary crook in 83-84g. at that time, underground recordings with this crap, such as Murka, walked, then this work was called Chanson, although IT has nothing to do with the chanson. It was later that the Afghan and Cossack albums went into perestroika.
        I just can’t talk about Afghanistan, I don’t want to lie to myself, but it’s not solid to cry in a vest, especially since I was there at every corner ... it’s pure samopiar ... Especially in my time it was forbidden under Brezhnev’s, and then Andropov. My mother didn’t even know that I was there, my father knew. When I got married about five years later. My wife was offended why I cooked, I didn’t eat, I even cried ... I thought that she didn’t know how to cook, she’s a fool young love . I had to calm such a habit after the Afghan tents remained sand, then settled on the bottom.
      2. RoTTor
        RoTTor 4 February 2014 16: 27
        +5
        Shevchuk - for the Maidan. Vine - against. About Rosenbaum - the whole theory. Well, from the side in a couple of days you can’t figure it out, especially in a sea of ​​false information. To each his own.

        At the very least, Ukraine has been independent for 24 years. And she became so because. THAT THE THIRD-SORT POLITICIANS in the Union republics did not want to remain in third roles in the world power, but decided to become first in third-rate small countries.
        Therefore, neither ukro-politikakashki and ukro-oligarchophrenics prefer to be independent.
        In addition, the failure of the information war on the part of Russia led to the fact that Russophobia among young people has become a reality.
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    2. Rinat 1
      Rinat 1 4 February 2014 09: 33
      +7
      I agree with your opinion. No one would have taken a guest performer for military operations, let alone treat people.
    3. gosha1970
      gosha1970 4 February 2014 10: 59
      +3
      Here is what the singer himself said about his trips to Afghanistan: “When I began to sing about Afghanistan, there were people who started yelling: they say, Rosenbaum sings about Afghanistan because it is fashionable. And this is my war! I know her, I was on her, not only spoke to the soldiers, but also went to combat missions. I’m an atypical artist ... "
      How! Well, according to the idea, you can't lie like that, about combat missions. Well this can be checked, then the shame will not be washed away. And he always positions himself as "the salt of the Russian land."
      1. Walking
        Walking 4 February 2014 14: 17
        +1
        Quote: gosha1970
        Here is what the singer himself said about his trips to Afghanistan: “When I began to sing about Afghanistan, there were people who started yelling: they say, Rosenbaum sings about Afghanistan because it is fashionable. And this is my war! I know her, I was on her, not only spoke to the soldiers, but also went to combat missions. I’m an atypical artist ... "
        How! Well, according to the idea, you can't lie like that, about combat missions. Well this can be checked, then the shame will not be washed away. And he always positions himself as "the salt of the Russian land."


        Maybe he went to some safe region under cover of great forces, why didn’t the commander of the part make the guest artist happy, maybe he shot somewhere from afar, but there wasn’t for sure the spirits there. No one would take him to combat. But the songs are still good.
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    5. Aleksys2
      Aleksys2 4 February 2014 11: 27
      +2

      In fairness:
      All doctors in the USSR were liable for military service and had military ranks of the reserve. At the end of the institute, along with a diploma, the military rank of lieutenant of the medical service was awarded. Regularly held military training.
      As for A.Ya. Rosenbaum, he studied at the First Medical Institute in Leningrad, in 1974, received a diploma in general practitioner. I went to work in an ambulance, at the First substation. So no one would let him in the Union to the operating table :)
      1. Old_kapitan
        Old_kapitan 4 February 2014 14: 11
        +2
        All doctors in the USSR were liable for military service and had the military ranks of the reserve. Upon graduation from the institute, together with the diploma, the military rank of lieutenant of medical service was conferred
        That's just in the reserve above the major will not get - believe the captain of the reserve. And then - the colonel. Almost like Yanukovych. wink
        1. atalef
          atalef 4 February 2014 14: 49
          +6
          Quote: Old_Kapitan
          That's just in the stock above the major you will not get - believe the captain of the stock. And here is the colonel. Almost like Yanukovych

          Or Zhirinovsky - he is the same colonel.
          At one time, I saw how Rosenbaum went as a doctor to autonomy on a nuclear submarine.
          It’s not entirely clear why and why besides PR. I am 100% sure that his qualification as a doctor could not allow him to go to autonomy. All this is more like space tourists and not brighter than that.
          This in no way cancels his huge talent as a songwriter and filmmaker. But God the God is Caesar's Caesar.
          Sing, sing. Why is it PR in the army?
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 4 February 2014 15: 49
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            This in no way cancels his huge talent as a songwriter and filmmaker. But God the God is Caesar's Caesar.
            Sing, sing. Why is it PR in the army?


            In modern show business, there is no way without PR, because the system is arranged so that if you are three times Chaliapin, no one will recognize your talent. Somehow, together with Boyarsky, they talked about all this technology. Rosenbaum said that Misha and I would throw ourselves off, find a long-legged, voiceless girl in a "sleeping area" and for a certain amount we would promote her like a pop star.
          2. Aleksys2
            Aleksys2 4 February 2014 17: 48
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            At one time, I saw how Rosenbaum went as a doctor to autonomy on a nuclear submarine.

            And in more detail you can.
            Rosenbaum has no preparation for admission by a doctor to a submarine.
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            2. atalef
              atalef 4 February 2014 17: 55
              +1
              Quote: Aleksys2
              Quote: atalef
              At one time, I saw how Rosenbaum went as a doctor to autonomy on a nuclear submarine.

              And in more detail you can.
              Rosenbaum has no preparation for admission by a doctor to a submarine.

              Here I am talking about that, but he was in the autonomous system, about 4-5 years ago.
              1. Aleksys2
                Aleksys2 4 February 2014 18: 04
                +1
                Maybe the output was? It’s hard to believe about autonomy ... Autonomy is not a day or two ... and not even a week.
              2. Aleksys2
                Aleksys2 4 February 2014 18: 28
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                Here I am talking about that, but he was in the autonomous system, about 4-5 years ago.

                All that he could dig in nete about service in the fleet A.Ya. Rosenbaum:
                Trained as a ship doctor on the ships of the Red Banner Pacific Navy. After graduating from the First Medical Institute in 1974, he served on the anti-submarine ship "Razyashchiy" in the Baltic Fleet, in the city of Baltiysk, for a year.
                http://rozenbaum.akkords.ru/articles/78/

                Although there is much that is not clear ...
                SC "Razyashchiy" (before 1977 BOD), project 1135, built by the shipyard "Yantar", laid down on September 28, 1972, launched on July 22, 1974, commissioned on December 30, 1974, served at the Pacific Fleet. And when Alexander Yakovlevich could pass he served for a whole year and in Baltiysk in 1974?

                In the life of the institute of Alexander Yakovlevich there was an unshackled "tail" left for the fall, and even skipping a traditional student trip to harvest potatoes, for which he was strictly expelled from the institute.
                Astigmatism and myopia do not give the opportunity to go to serve in the army, and he gets a job as a nurse in the postoperative department, to the most severe patients.
                In 1974, having passed all state exams perfectly, Alexander received a diploma of a general practitioner. I went to work in an ambulance, at the First substation, located on Popova street, d.16-b, not far from my native institute.
                http://rozenbaum.akkords.ru/articles/27/
              3. justas-xnumx
                justas-xnumx 4 February 2014 19: 37
                +3
                Yes, some kind of "autonomous" was - for three days, it seems, submarine "Varshavyanka", I do not remember the name, it came out, had to walk for ten days, but something did not work out, it was ten years ago, in the summer, everyone thought, that he would go to the garrisons, and he gave one small concert at the Polyarninskiy DOP and went home.
          3. Aleksys2
            Aleksys2 4 February 2014 18: 07
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            Or Zhirinovsky - he is the same colonel.

            In 1970 - 1972, he served as a conscript officer in the political department of the headquarters of the Transcaucasian Military District in Tbilisi, and was transferred to the reserve as a senior lieutenant.
            By order of the Minister of Defense from 27 on March 1995, he was awarded the military rank of Lieutenant Colonel of the reserve.
            How easy it is, however, to distribute the titles ...
            1. justas-xnumx
              justas-xnumx 4 February 2014 19: 44
              +2
              The current Minister of Defense, in essence, is a "jacket" starley GO-shny, received Major General ZZA 3000 AK issued by order of Yeltsin for the siege of the "White House", there is another "General", about which nothing has been heard recently , I don't remember the last name, but the name "Dima", in the 90s he was "driven" by Dima the General, about his wife Shufutinsky sang the song "The Beautiful Senora Senjorina ..."
            2. muhomor
              muhomor 4 February 2014 22: 09
              -1
              I would not trust this colonel and platoon.
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        3. RoTTor
          RoTTor 4 February 2014 16: 40
          -2
          Yanukovych is simply the supreme commander-in-chief, but not even an ordinary reserve: as a "twice convicted person" he did not serve on a criminal basis.
          Upon assuming office, ukro-preziks, besides a collar with a badge, are given an imitation of a hetman's mace.
          And to award oneself with the ranks is a tradition. The Reichsfuhrer of secluded security, the ennoyed ... Maidan and fascists, immediately from ordinary untrained or reserve lieutenants, were immediately promoted to army commanders, albeit without an army.
          The deputies are entirely generals and colonels of the reserve, and their current Minister of Defense is a former military financier, the previous one is a professor at the Higher Educational Institution of Higher Education, etc.
          But on the other hand, they tried to invent their own "Ukrainian marching step", finding some kind of newsreel by the Petliurists, so as not to even walk like "curses." Well, nothing happened here ...
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        5. Aleksys2
          Aleksys2 4 February 2014 17: 46
          0
          Quote: Old_Kapitan
          That's just in stock above the major you will not get

          I agree completely.
          Colonel m / s is at least the head. department in the district hospital.
          IMHO:
          AND I. Rosenbaum wears colonel epaulettes of m / s not by status.
          If they wanted to celebrate his concert activity, then they would give ranks for the Military Orchestra Service of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and not for the Medical Service.
    6. Ascetic
      Ascetic 4 February 2014 15: 20
      +1
      Quote: cartridge
      At the same time, the soldier received about 20 checks per month. Officer 260 per month,


      I served in 1981 as a private soldier and received 19 checks. And the VPT checks were not given to us. There were no pieces of paper typed on a typewriter with a seal, like a ticket to the dining room. You go to the "check" -voyentorg one coupon for the "quarter" (25 rubles) and type for everything as a rule. One check could be change in Dukan for 10 Afghani. The officers had a double salary from which they received part of the checks. Our platoon half of 180 checks. In Berezka in the Soviet Union they sold for 4 "wooden" speculators, in Tashkent for 2.
  6. Kazakh
    Kazakh 4 February 2014 09: 20
    14
    In Afghanistan, he not only sang, he had to shoot, kill, treat people.
    And he derailed the Dushman armored train. But this is classified information. bully I think An ordinary normal guy went to Afghanistan not only to earn money, but to really support the fighters of popularity, enough why he should ascribe non-existent feats
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 4 February 2014 09: 58
      +5
      Quote: Kazakh
      In Afghanistan, he not only sang, he had to shoot, kill, treat people.

      I agree with the verbal diarrhea. Not Rosenbaum, but a universal Jew, almost a Cossack, without five minutes "thieves". what
  7. Greenwood
    Greenwood 4 February 2014 09: 34
    -1
    How can you even listen to this ?!
  8. Perch_xnumx
    Perch_xnumx 4 February 2014 09: 35
    +7
    The words of the songs parted ways. He sings beautifully, but out of tune.
    1. Yashka Gorobets
      Yashka Gorobets 4 February 2014 10: 24
      +8
      I remember "Musical ring" with him, he just started to glow on the screens, one girl asked him for thieves' songs, so he almost mixed it with mud. And after a couple of years, when he got old, he began to shade his thieves' ballads all over the country, hesitating. That's such a dick, although some of his songs are good.
  9. Kazakh
    Kazakh 4 February 2014 10: 03
    +9
    In Afghanistan, he not only sang, he had to shoot, kill, treat people.
    And in the zone, he not only sat but also participated in the showdown and carried out the decision of the gangway. In particular, I personally planted the well-known "Murkу"From not written in the article
  10. lukke
    lukke 4 February 2014 10: 04
    +1
    In Afghanistan, he not only sang, he had to shoot, kill, treat people.
    I don’t understand who smoked: the author or Rosembaum himself?
    1. Kazakh
      Kazakh 4 February 2014 10: 18
      +5
      Well, what? Don’t you know that you can smoke in Afghanistan? Still sneaking laughing
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 4 February 2014 15: 03
        +1
        Quote: Kazakh
        Well, what? Don’t you know that you can smoke in Afghanistan? Still sneaking

        - Yes, he doesn’t make it, but he still has stocks brought from there. laughing.
        Quote: Kazakh
        And in the zone, he not only sat, but also participated in the showdown and carried out the decision of the gangway. In particular, I personally planted the well-known "Murka
        - here we discuss an article about Rosenbaum for readers of TOPVOR, and an article about Rosenbaum for another contingent on another site laughing I don’t remember the link.
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 4 February 2014 15: 51
          +1
          Quote: aksakal
          I don’t remember the link.

          Эхо Москвы smile
  11. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 4 February 2014 11: 10
    +2
    I will never be able to understand this music, from the chanson it just twists and the hand reaches for the Mauser, and the modern "war songs", the whole essence of the first: "I am a bandit, the state-bastard has condemned and is taking me through the stage, have mercy on me, aaaaaaa-uuuuuuuuuu-eeeeee .... ", the essence of the second" I served, my brother-friend was killed by the spirits, the unfaithful bride at home, the filthy state, aaaaaaaaa-uuuuuuuuu-eeeeeeeeee .... "Both the first and the second are good to listen to if you decide to commit suicide, I cut in a chanson, a rope around my neck and, while howling "Vladimirsky central ...", you jump from a stool. Here are the Balts, they are of course, but because chanson is officially prohibited there, I respect them.
    1. Walk
      Walk 4 February 2014 13: 10
      13
      You, my dear, are confusing chanson and "thug song". Chanson is Mityaev, Kukin, Vizbor, Vysotsky, Gorodnitsky, Nikitins and many others. And what is played in minibuses, and is called chanson by semi-literate presenters of musical programs, is a rogue.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 4 February 2014 21: 08
        +1
        If Vizbor and Vysotsky chansonnier - then who is Vertinsky, Petr Leshchenko, Vadim Kozin, Yuryev, Bayanova? Chanson is somehow restaurant songs. Now it is closer to Stas Mikhailov and others like him.
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    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 4 February 2014 15: 41
      +2
      I agree. I also never understood the love of certain categories of citizens for the "Russian chanson". Chanson, in my understanding, is romantic love songs, not the moaning of prisoners about their shitty life.
    3. PiP
      PiP 4 February 2014 18: 17
      +2
      Quote: Standard Oil
      I served, a friend-brother killed spirits, at home an unfaithful bride, a filthy state

      You went too far ... With the same success, you can sum up the songs about the Second World War - "Our tenth airborne battalion", "Fire is beating in a small stove", "At an unnamed height", etc. Many songs were written after the war, but people who experienced the war.
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 4 February 2014 20: 41
        0
        I’m only about contemporary songs, we don’t touch the songs of the Second World War, but they chanson don't belong. I t
      2. Greenwood
        Greenwood 6 February 2014 09: 58
        0
        Songs of the Soviet years about the war are not "Russian chanson", so the comparison is inappropriate here.
  12. Cormorants
    Cormorants 4 February 2014 11: 26
    +5
    This Maidan showed who of himself is, In Rosenbaum and Shevchuk he was disappointed, insulting!
  13. ikar2006
    ikar2006 4 February 2014 11: 56
    +5
    On June 11, 1987 he attended his concert in Kabul. From the stage, he promised to come to all the hottest spots of Afgan. But he did not reach us in Ghazni. Our flyers told that after Gardez's flight, a pair of "eights" were fired upon by the DShK, no damage was received, but he and the people accompanying him did not arouse enthusiasm for the further flight. We returned to Gardez. No more attempts were made to visit Ghazni. And we have already covered the clearing and "MASSANDRA" prepared for his arrival. So the story that "in Afghanistan he not only sang, he had to shoot, kill, heal people" I will only call the author's story. But I liked his songs when I was young.
  14. PValery53
    PValery53 4 February 2014 12: 15
    +5
    The song "Black Tulip" still penetrates ... to a lump in my throat ...
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 4 February 2014 15: 59
      +2
      Quote: PValery53
      The song "Black Tulip" still penetrates ... to a lump in my throat ...

      Yes sir! How many of our compatriots did not return from that war! Eternal memory to all the dead and missing! Glory to everyone who honorably fulfilled their duty and returned from Afghanistan! Not far off February 15, all participants with the upcoming!
  15. vkrav
    vkrav 4 February 2014 12: 22
    +8
    Yeah, how, we remember, we remember all his pearls ... At the end of the 90s, in some program they talked about Chechen affairs, Rosenbaum and gave: (close to the text) "When the war began, I considered the Chechens a freedom-loving people, proud abreks, but when they kidnapped a Jewish girl and began to send her cut-off fingers to her father - I understood - animals !!! "That is, while the Russians were being slaughtered - and to hell with them, with the Russians, and the Jews - no, no! but they, so good, are so disliked ... And about thieves - it is not customary to remember that a thug Fenya is a surzhik Yiddish.
  16. albai
    albai 4 February 2014 12: 37
    +7
    No matter how much he changes, no matter who he becomes, but only for saying that in words and music he told us very much about us and our life there by the river. And yes, he was one of those who, without fear, gave concerts to five and five hundred spectators, at small outposts and in regimental clubs. Well, while firing and participating, maybe somewhere far in the rear he could sit and listen and talked to the hot guys after the raid or exit. Indeed, for a man of art, you just need to feel the moment and listen to the dense automatic shooting. And a song will be born. Well, we are mere mortals, the older we get, the more lyrical we become and the songs of youth touch our soul more. They make me remember everything.
  17. ikrut
    ikrut 4 February 2014 12: 44
    +9
    There are good songs and good performance. It is a fact. But as a person (IMHO) not unambiguous. Actually, like all of us. Refused his early songs. As for me, not always sincere. For an author of this level, this is a minus. After the "Maidan" - for me personally, he ceased to exist as a respected person.
  18. PiP
    PiP 4 February 2014 13: 21
    +3
    Under this article and ask a question to everyone ...
    From a young age I remember songs that my double brother sang to the accompaniment of a guitar, the guys in the yard who returned from Afghanistan, on cassettes Rosenbaum, Muromov and others ... Now it is "Contingent", "Cascade", ... In all the songs you can feel the SOUL and FEELINGS. .. In this regard, I decided to look in the Internet, and what kind of creativity do our potential "friends" have after their stay in Afghanistan? And I did not find anything worthwhile except for some kind of foolish banter and antics. Who knows examples of their normal creativity? It is interesting to compare.
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 4 February 2014 14: 24
      +3
      Hello Pavel! What else can they sing about ... American soldiers in Afghanistan parody Miami Dolphins Cheerleaders "Call Me Maybe". And they have time and opportunities for this ..., and still only show-offs and the nature of Afghanistan under Sting. For what they are there, about that and videos, they can not have any songs about Afghanistan ... By the way, my cousin knows firsthand what Salang is ...
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 4 February 2014 15: 46
      +1
      Hmm, in Vietnam they had the epoch-making Creedance Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Song. Alas, that was not the case in Afghanistan. In Iraq, I read, they organized torture for the ears in small towns and villages of the local population, cutting down Metallica and other mitols.
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  20. dmb
    dmb 4 February 2014 14: 29
    +7
    Maybe I'm wrong, but a certain category of people should be treated ... condescending or something. Rosenbaum has wonderful songs and not only about Afghanistan, Okudzhava's songs will be sung as long as the memory of the war is alive, B. Vasiliev needs to bow to the belt for "The Dawns Here Are Quiet". And this is not duplicity, these people, in my opinion, sincerely believe that they are right in everything, and any of their judgments are not subject to criticism. Absolutely not sharing the views of Akhedzhakova and Basilashvili, it is difficult not to agree that they are great actors. This is not a hustler Mikhalkov, former teachers of Marxism-Leninism who have joined together as "political scientists" and "Cossacks" or representatives of the "vanguard of fighters against world capital" from a three-letter organization.
  21. pensioner
    pensioner 4 February 2014 14: 48
    +5
    I'll tell you about my perception of Rosenbaum. Rosenbaum before "perestroika" and Rosenbaum after "perestroika" are two different people. If the first aroused all respect, then the second - only disgust. The venality is generally characteristic of artists, and by definition, but some specimens, even here, can set records ...
  22. Stasi
    Stasi 4 February 2014 15: 30
    +6
    Rosenbaum is a talent singer, he has good songs, especially military ones. It is worthy of respect that he was in Afghanistan, for the soldier moral support including the song means a lot. And about whether it was true that he participated in raids, let those who served in Afghanistan ask him, let those who were with him in battle say. The fact that he was on the Maidan does not add respect to him, an intelligent person and must understand what is the essence of all this coven called Maidan.
  23. Klim podkova
    Klim podkova 4 February 2014 16: 41
    +5
    The talent of a person often lives separately from himself.
  24. old rocket man
    old rocket man 4 February 2014 16: 45
    +4
    A good singer, not a stupid man, sensitive to the conjuncture, but an opportunist in life, like most Jews. I realized in time that you can earn more on "songs" than on an ambulance. The same mediocre poet, like a doctor, his later "poems" cause only a grin, but draw out a "theme." His friendship with Boyarsky characterizes both, as they say, "a fisherman, a fisherman, sees from afar."
    "Colonel MC", ha-ha, Zhirinovsky at least served a little as a military translator, but this one was not even a day in the army. lol
  25. moremansf
    moremansf 4 February 2014 17: 46
    +2
    But the songs are still good, and we listen to them all with pleasure !!! They became a kind of symbol of that time.
    In the photo "Monument to Afghan soldiers in Chelyabinsk (Black Tulip).
  26. Eagle Owl1
    Eagle Owl1 4 February 2014 18: 08
    0
    and what, to get into the source is not fate or what? Where the information came from is indicated. There it is:

    “He was brought into the detachment by my deputy for political affairs, Major Sergei Knyaz. "Stole" in Shindant. I already agreed what I promised, I don’t remember the prescription of years. I remember something else. They just returned from the fighting, lost four fighters, the mood is lousy, and the deputy politician reports on the upcoming concert. What is Rosenbaum? In general, I decided not to go to the concert. Then one fighter resorts, another: they say, commander, we won’t start a concert without you. I had to go. "
    That first performance of Alexander Rosenbaum at the "bats" lasted more than two hours. As the “Afghan” officer noted, there was a feeling that he sings about us, understands our life very well. They didn’t let him go for a long time, everyone asked to perform this or that song. He did not refuse.
    Alexander Yakovlevich spent three days in the detachment, gave three concerts. He traveled around all the outposts and sang several songs on each.
    “It has some kind of firmness, attractiveness, some kind of force comes from it, which is transmitted to people,” Khudyakov says. - And everyone appreciated it. In any case, I judge by myself. Other artists, I know, mostly performed on more or less adapted venues or in clubs. Rosenbaum also spoke at such, but a lot of time was where it was the hardest. Courageous man. "


    that is, it turns out that here half argues about Rosenbaum not with the author but with Khudyakov. We read: ... Khudyakov’s trip "over the river" lasted from December 1985 to June 1988. He began as deputy commander of the 411th separate special forces unit of the GRU, then joined his command. He was awarded the orders of the Red Star, "For Service to the Homeland in the Armed Forces" of the third degree and - on the personal presentation of the head of the operational group of the USSR Ministry of Defense Army General Valentin Varennikov - the Red Banner. Twice wounded - in 1986 and 1988.
  27. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 4 February 2014 18: 39
    -3
    Eagle owl, even if Rosenbaum in Afghanistan would shoot Masouda, then Aksakal and Ascetic would have found explanations why he was a bastard. Well, idiosyncrasy in people on the Jews.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 4 February 2014 19: 33
      0
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Well, idiosyncrasy in people on the Jews.

      It happens! I know ... yes
  28. delfinN
    delfinN 4 February 2014 19: 07
    +2
    Quote: aksakal

    And then the aging singer was drawn to his own, he decided to help the financial kings of the planet (Rosenbaum’s fellow tribesmen) to take away Ukraine from Russia.


    And you noticed that they were all drawn to their own at once: Shevchuk, Makarevich, Rosenbaum, Akhedzhakova. Before them Kikabidze was still.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 4 February 2014 20: 18
      -1
      Quote: delfinN

      And you noticed that they were all drawn to their own at once: Shevchuk, Makarevich, Rosenbaum, Akhedzhakova. Before them Kikabidze was still.

      worthy company. These people will be remembered even by your great-grandchildren.
  29. konvalval
    konvalval 4 February 2014 20: 27
    +1
    But on the Maidan, he thoroughly tarnished his reputation. Not to his face. Well, well, apparently he supported his own.
  30. delfinN
    delfinN 4 February 2014 21: 07
    +1
    [quote = Aron Zawi] [quote = delfinN]
    These people will remember even your great-grandchildren. [/ Quote]
    For example, my son is 28. Maybe he knows them and you need to ask. But he won’t remember exactly. He has other idols. But now I don’t remember them.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 4 February 2014 21: 22
      0
      Quote: delfinN
      He has other idols. But now I don’t remember them.
      Approximately, like mine ... But my idols (he is a professional guitar player) are correct ... D.Rev
  31. Penek
    Penek 4 February 2014 22: 10
    0
    He has good songs, both early and current. During concerts in the 90s, he got up during the performance of the Black Tulip. In my times he did not sing in Afghanistan (the first time he was at his concert in 85th at the police center in St. Petersburg ), there were Rymbaev, Piekha, Kobzon others. It is a pity if I changed the suit ..
  32. Jager
    Jager 4 February 2014 22: 31
    +1
    He was at a Rosenbaum concert, he performed good songs. But aged a lot.
    At the expense of PR on the Maidan. I don’t understand one thing - why? I don’t understand Shevchuk either. This is such a black PR that it can be compared in level with the repetition of Pussy Riot's "feat" - there is a lot of noise, spectacularly, but disgusting. Or grandiose stupidity. So I don’t think that it makes sense for well-deserved and recognized artists to promote themselves in such a perverse method, they have long and firmly won their audience.
    1. coserg 2012
      coserg 2012 7 February 2014 16: 16
      0
      It was like an interview with his participation (before the fight, Klitschko-Povetkin), there he said that he was familiar with Povetkin and was friends with Klitschki. Maybe this flew to the Maidan?
  33. saygon66
    saygon66 4 February 2014 22: 34
    +1
    - In perezdah, my father’s cassette with a recording of the Rosenbaum concert in Samarheil was also lost ... It's a pity. As for the rest - do not make yourself an idol, and no semblance of it .... all humans ...
  34. badger1974
    badger1974 5 February 2014 00: 21
    0
    I was in Afghanistan, but I was ashamed to sing to the Chernobyl liquidators, but Alla was and there was Sofa, and Sasha wasn’t there — that's the fighter
  35. allexx83
    allexx83 5 February 2014 00: 45
    +1
    There are very few Jews-creators, Rosenbaum is one of them. First of all, the POET - then the performer. I love his songs. I don't know about the personality, I won't say anything. I regularly look through the "bulletins" from the Maidan, Rosenbaum is NOT DETECTED.
  36. RoTTor
    RoTTor 5 February 2014 02: 18
    -1
    Well, everyone attacked the poor Jew.
    But does he tell tales about himself? Claims to the author of the magazine.
    AND NO ONE WORD SAID that childhood in Jo ... e was played by the commander-in-chief of Putin - he went to the submarine at sea, then on a bomber, then on a twin-wing fighter, then on a hang glider with Siberian Cranes ...
    But, unlike Rosenbaum, all this - at public expense and in front of television cameras - in order, like a kid, to brag about his imaginary "coolness."
    Not for the whole president is needed ...
  37. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 5 February 2014 09: 48
    +2
    Something I did not hear that he went to combat, if this is nonsense and the fantasies of some admirers of his talent, then what does he have to do with it. Vysotsky, too, incidentally earned big dibs for his concerts, but that cancels his talent or civic position. And just as they said about Rosenbaum, he sat, fought, swam. Oh people, people, where so much poison from you