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Why Washington will lose in Ukraine ...

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The neo-Nazi Bandera brew in the center of Kiev on Euromaidan continues to boil, supported by Western money, media, instructors and political pressure on President Viktor Yanukovych. Experts estimate it at about ten thousand fighter-attack aircraft. Ordinary militants, unlike their leaders, do not hide, speak to the camera that their goal is the physical destruction of the Golden Eagle, that is, the only force that protects power today, and is opposed to the coup and the chaos to come.




The three-headed opposition demands the dissolution of the Berkut. Of course, it must be dissolved ... because only after that it can be destroyed. So “Glory to Ukraine!” Yatsenyuk and Klitschko merge with the neo-Nazi choir of the Pygmybok.

However, what is the purpose of Washington (little depends on its satellites in Europe) when it relies on neo-Nazis? Drown Ukraine in chaos, then to transfer it to Russia? There is an opinion, but this option is very difficult to implement. A more interesting question: what will happen on Ukraine itself after the chaos, what is Washington’s cherished goal here?

Guessing it is not very difficult if you remember that the architect of Ukrainian politics in the United States is Vice President Joe Biden, who recently recommended Viktor Yanukovych to create a pro-European government. And in the recent past, he was the architect of Saakashvili, completely neo-Nazi Georgia. The order on the streets there was combined with torture in prisons (almost half of Georgia disloyal to Saakashvili suffered), the same order was in Nazi Germany in the last century. (And in Kiev, Bandera already have a torture room, and it has already been tortured.)

By the way, Saakashvili was on Euromaidan, apparently sharing his experience, and even came to the Munich Security Conference specifically from America, where he is now hiding from Georgian love in the position of American professor. It can be assumed that Joe Biden again decided to create a neo-Nazi state hostile to Russia, this time Bandera, in the style of Saakashvili Georgia. Instead of today's relatively neutral, “multi-vector” Ukraine.

Then it is logical that the festival euromaidan was replaced by Bandera's Maidan under the red-brown banners. Dmitry Yarosh, the leader of the "Trident" named after Stepan Bandera, declares: "Bandera is the present and the future of Ukraine." They only delegated powers to the three leaders of the opposition.

As soon as the festival Maidan replaced Bandera, did the “victims of the regime” appear, or the sacred victims of Bandera? - to prove it today is not possible. And the first dead at the hands of Bandera, they have weapon. In western Ukraine, they began to seize administrative power. Thus began the preparation of the Syrian script for Ukraine. But Bandera failed to overthrow the Golden Eagle, even "standing" by order, and the administration in central and eastern Ukraine failed to capture, moreover, eastern Ukraine fought back, began to create the "Ukrainian Front" with the "People's Guard" detachments. And the authorities took up the strengthening of the special forces of the Golden Eagle.

Now Yanukovych is looking for compromises, and offered amnesty to the detainees (about 300 people), but with the conditions for the release of part of the captured administrative buildings. The opposition refused to make any concessions to the authorities, but the attacks on the Berkut ceased. The US Embassy in Ukraine, and behind it, the Bandera thinks the Duma ... It becomes difficult to issue a neo-Nazi insurrection for peaceful protest and “movement to Europe” to its curators from the State Department. So in the street war there was a pause, which lasts at this time.

And time is not working for Bandera and the US State Department, because in the South-East of Ukraine at this time the “Ukrainian Front” is strengthening, which is not united by the figure of Yanukovich, but by the “hatred of fascism,” so say its participants.

The intention of the US State Department to create a “Bandera Ukraine” under its “democratic leadership,” like Sakashvili Georgia, is an adventure. For Biden, from his American is far, that Georgia, that Ukraine is all the same, whereas in reality these are two big differences, as they say in Odessa. If for Kiev 10.000 of fighters is a lot, then for Ukraine it is a miser. Therefore, in Ukraine, the United States will not receive the Syrian scenario, but rather a new failure of its foreign policy. Russia is much closer to Ukraine than to Syria.

And the European commissioners have every chance to get the Orange Spring from the Euro-skeptics at the elections to the European Parliament in May this year for their hypocrisy towards Ukraine, and the support of the Bandera neo-Nazis. May 2014 is much closer than the presidential election in Ukraine ... For Russia, there comes a “moment of truth” in relations with Europe, ”said Sergey Lavrov at the Munich Security Conference in Europe.

“Why is it impossible to hear condemning voices addressed to those who seize and still hold administrative buildings, attack policemen, speak out with racist, anti-Semitic and Nazi slogans? Why do prominent European politicians actually encourage such actions, although at home they immediately and rigidly suppress such deviations from the letter of the law? ”Our Foreign Minister asked, but the answer was silence.

Russia is preparing today for the Olympic Games in Sochi, but what is the West preparing for? ..
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  1. Cormorants
    Cormorants 3 February 2014 07: 37
    +90
    Soon all this riffraff will be dispersed in Ukraine, where the East rises with the Cossacks, the patience of the people burst.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 3 February 2014 07: 44
      +27
      You know, I would very much like to believe in it, but I’m afraid that everything — Yanukovych was not able to rule the country — and this is the result, and against the background of increased activity both in Europe and the USA — I’m afraid I was happy a month ago.
      And grandmas are now collecting western helmsmen ....
      1. smel
        smel 3 February 2014 07: 56
        +57
        Yanukovych did the opposite from the very beginning of the crisis. And today he is not able to restore order. The entire trinity of obvious and hundreds of 3-4 frank and arrogant Bandera has long been time to pull up or into the cell for years on 20-30. Close access to European and American agitators. Provocative media deprive licenses. Enter emergency mode. For 5 years, cancel all elections, etc. Well, if he continues to drool, then let him get ready to share the fate of the leaders whom the democratic Americans have destroyed in one way or another.
        1. Goodmen
          Goodmen 3 February 2014 10: 13
          +31
          Quote: smel
          Yanukovych did the opposite from the very beginning of the crisis. And today he is not able to restore order.


          Or maybe such a tactical move?
          To delay the time until the end of the Olympics in the Russian Federation. Maybe he was forbidden to rock the boat from Moscow?
          Hence the behavior is so insecure, and the authorities, and the "Berkut", and the army.
          Maybe in the Russian Federation, on the eve of the Olympics, they fear the introduction of "peacekeepers" as a result of a tough response from the Ukrainian authorities.
          But after, please, then the Russian Federation can also respond firmly in case of aggression from the West - the hands will be untied. And now they are probably afraid that they will boycott the Olympics.
          It’s a pity for the Berkut fighters. They stand there like whipping boys ... and there is strength, but they cannot use it ...
          IMHO.
          1. Ataman
            Ataman 3 February 2014 10: 27
            +18
            If you get to your ears, this is a tactical move for Yanukovych, then what is the strategy? This moron is no longer interested in anyone.
          2. bootlegger
            bootlegger 3 February 2014 11: 47
            +15
            Yanukovych has one tactical move - both yours and ours.
            Break the golden eagle of the opposition and in the West, Victor will be cursed with all the consequences for his financial affairs.
            And even if it weren’t for his Western stash, he doesn’t want to become completely dependent on GDP. He wants to continue to sit on two chairs until they fall apart under him, like a chair under Gorbachev has collapsed.
            In general, Vitya seems to hope that everything will resolve itself.
            1. lukke
              lukke 3 February 2014 13: 14
              +11
              I think Vitya is a tramp in comparison with his puppeteers - the oligarchy from the east. But they think: capital in the West, resources in the East. If the Natsiks come, there will be a redistribution of what they own on the territory of Ukraine - that's the problem - what is "more profitable" to lose. How will it be determined - there will be either a tough scenario of putting things in order or a bidding with a partial drain and an unknown own unenviable fate
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          3. rate
            rate 3 February 2014 12: 54
            +1
            Some believe that it is necessary to separate the three areas that became part of Ukraine in 1939: Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopol and the end. Ukraine will be freed from this ballast and will heal well. Nevertheless, I want to SORRY these people. In the case of the START of the process of the split of Ukraine in these three areas, it will NOT end.
            "What will the partition of Ukraine bring?"http://ermalex76.livejournal.com/5953.html
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            2. predator.3
              predator.3 3 February 2014 15: 11
              +37
              A homeless man dressed in a sheepskin coat on a maidan holding in one hand a bumper in another coffee, asks the BBC!
              - Are you for Yanukovych?
              -God forbid!
              So you are for the Association in Europe
              -That you, God forbid, shaw
              -And for whom, for what?
              -I'm for this tale not to end!
          4. Anper
            Anper 3 February 2014 14: 00
            +13
            Quote: Goodmen
            Or maybe such a tactical move?

            Just a repost of my comment yesterday. After the New Year, some TV channels (Inter, for example) dramatically changed the vector - from Maidan to more or less objective coverage of events.
            Red thread passes condemnation
            1) radicals;
            2) stupid opposition;
            3) failure to comply with laws.
            For the first time in the life of Maidan from the TV screen, the Ukrainian recent channel transparently and unequivocally explained where and how much finance came from, literally in the words of Lavrov spoke of Western and American representatives on the Maidan, etc.
            And why is this fright to change the broadcasting of a private channel so dramatically? And are these not signs of the beginning of an information counteroffensive? As it was already said here: "Remember the mysterious tactical technique - when we retreat, we go forward." The technique consists in bringing all the riffraff to the legal field and then playing on this field with one goal.
            One well-known and recognizable leader of a country neighboring Ukraine loves such long-playing win-win things very much, which he proved last year.
            1. Prutkov
              Prutkov 3 February 2014 15: 31
              +9
              But so far Russia is losing the information war in Ukraine. The blog of the same Oles Buzina disappeared from the site of the Segodnya newspaper. Information is presented only from one side. We need to throw information into the masses. Why is there no information about how two radio broadcasters from Poland joked about the rape of Ukrainian servants during Euro 2012? As the saying goes: "What a smart man has in his head, a fool has on his tongue."
              1. CALL.
                CALL. 4 February 2014 04: 46
                +2
                Quote: Rods
                Need stuffing information to the masses

                About Ukrainian grant-eaters. How to stamp magazine magazine.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S064I_ir97Q
                1. siberalt
                  siberalt 9 February 2014 14: 07
                  +1
                  There is an interesting video on YouTube, hidden from a hidden camera, where "co-chairman" Vova, sitting on the couch, holds a picture book with his left hand, and with his right hand ... well, you understand me. Whoever wishes can be curious.
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            2. Foxmara
              Foxmara 4 February 2014 04: 17
              +3
              Pull back forces to an ambush regiment? Bring everyone to the field, surround and break all at once?
          5. _Forgiven_
            _Forgiven_ 3 February 2014 18: 35
            +20
            A robust version and it has a right to exist. How famously Vladimir Vladimirovich fanned Europe with an association and a gas offer for us + credit. I also think that Yanyk has everything under control, or rather, not with him, but with Putin
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 4 February 2014 01: 47
              +6
              all the same, it’s the Olympics, Russia is pausing, it’s too much at stake, but after that it will be interesting ...
            2. Sergey47
              Sergey47 8 February 2014 20: 15
              +1
              You are absolutely right. Look at Putin - he is calm, which means he has everything under control. He will make his move as always during and gracefully clicking Uncle Sam and Aunt Ashton on the nose. Ukraine would also have its own Putin.
          6. Foxmara
            Foxmara 4 February 2014 04: 12
            +5
            Rather, she is afraid that with the introduction of the emergency, control over the banks will float, there is much that changes, not only the order on the streets. Someone’s business can be badly damaged, it’s not the boys who are dead in the streets, they are money. Old Man would be there for a day. Can even join Ukraine to Belarus? And we have nothing to do with it and the order will be.
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          8. valton
            valton 6 February 2014 20: 04
            +1
            Quote: Goodmen
            Or maybe such a tactical move?


            Absolutely agree ! Russia cannot afford to make sharp "movements" now. Russia cannot now fight on two fronts. The Olympics are the most vulnerable place today. These barbarians are just waiting for Russia to make any mistake. But after the Olympics, hands will be free. Then it will be possible to show who is who.
        2. Goodmen
          Goodmen 3 February 2014 10: 13
          +1
          Quote: smel
          Yanukovych did the opposite from the very beginning of the crisis. And today he is not able to restore order.


          Or maybe such a tactical move?
          To delay the time until the end of the Olympics in the Russian Federation. Maybe he was forbidden to rock the boat from Moscow?
          Hence the behavior is so insecure, and the authorities, and the "Berkut", and the army.
          Maybe in the Russian Federation, on the eve of the Olympics, they fear the introduction of "peacekeepers" as a result of a tough response from the Ukrainian authorities.
          But after, please, then the Russian Federation can also respond stiffly in case of aggression from the West - the hands will be untied. And now they are probably afraid that they will boycott the Olympics. But Ukraine cannot be lost in any way !!! Therefore, time and pull, do not succumb to provocations.
          It’s a pity for the Berkut fighters. They stand there like whipping boys ... and there is strength, but they cannot use it ...
          IMHO.
          1. Dilshat
            Dilshat 3 February 2014 22: 03
            +5
            Here is a new version: Yanukovych and Putin decided to annex Ukraine to Russia. But without ballast. Yanukovych pretends that he is going to sign an onerous association agreement with the EU. It seems to Europeans that the fish was almost in their hands, but fell off (this is the same margin - 50 million new slaves , buyers + fertile land + minerals). The ovs also have their own interest (they will stick their next flag and set their bases with missiles right next to Russia + "Ukrainization with the creation of a nation hostile to Russia like the Poles." Of course, the West rushed to powerfully help the fifth column. Yanukovych plays the role of "soft" allowing Bandera, Nazis to become impudent beyond measure. This infuriates eastern Ukraine. The situation reaches its climax. Confrontation at the limit. The eastern regions declare themselves independent from the center and the West. And the apotheosis! Prepare an agreement on joining Russia. Of course, greatly exaggerated , but something like that.
        3. Fin
          Fin 3 February 2014 10: 38
          +10
          Quote: smel
          Yanukovych did the opposite from the very beginning of the crisis. And today he is not able to restore order. The entire trinity is obvious and hundreds of 3-4 frank and arrogant Bandera have long been time to pull up or into the cell for 20-30 years.

          Now time is lost. The last option is to freeze the situation by doing nothing. To block financial resources in Z. Ukraine, let it be a delay in pensions, salaries for state employees, benefits, etc. The militants are stagnant, they need to be trolled by different obviously not acceptable laws, statements ... calling for action. They can only smash, attack i.e. break the law, and all this is covered more widely on TV. Generally discredit them for legal dispersal with the arrest of violent. And be sure to nominate a new leader, I liked Dobkin. Then to nominate for the president.
          1. infinite silence ...
            infinite silence ... 3 February 2014 11: 54
            +18
            Quote: Fin
            and cover it all more widely on TV.


            It’s easy to say - to broadcast on TV ... Only the channels of Eastern Ukraine show the truth! Central channels lobby the interests of the Maidan! No family can watch them without valerian! Constant provocations, psychological pressure ... Show touching stories about how the Maydan people hug Ukrainian songs, write poems, play classical music on the piano ... Angels ... Shovels itching wings grow am ... And no one knows that the Golden Eagle was stripping a jerk to the goal of a Cossack, because he was drenched with a combustible mixture and could burst like a torch ... That policemen are dying, that the Berkut's families do not feel completely safe ...
            So ... our TV is not an option. Here we need much more stringent measures ...
          2. Anper
            Anper 4 February 2014 10: 36
            +1
            Please do not make emotional quick conclusions
        4. Shmel
          Shmel 3 February 2014 10: 44
          +10
          Ukraine has a very weak government! And from the very beginning. What is not a politician is a slug and a mess. Well waggle, like prostitutes, now to the geyrop, then to Russia!
          1. infinite silence ...
            infinite silence ... 3 February 2014 12: 06
            +8
            Either smart, or beautiful ... Between the pedestal and the gallows ... negative
        5. thinking
          thinking 3 February 2014 13: 49
          +8
          What are you! And the loot in the west, children, property? It’s easier to merge the country, and even let the grass grow there.
        6. tomcat117
          tomcat117 3 February 2014 18: 53
          +11
          Ukraine needs to learn from Russia and Belarus. The fact is, Yanukovych has not grown up to either Putin or Lukashenko, and there is no figure equal to them, he is simply insignificant in matters of protecting his country.
          It is necessary to overthrow the oligarchic power into a couple of Bandera-fascist degenerates.
          We must turn our face to the Slavs, for it is known how the "world government" dealt with Yugoslavia.
          Stop busting backwards before those who give more is reminiscent of an ancient profession.
          Finally, you need to have an independent policy, deal with the order in your home, and not measure everything with your pocket.
          People can’t be fooled, but over the course of 20 years, their brains have been completely ruined.
          The power of the Slavs in unity !!!
        7. So_o_tozh
          So_o_tozh 3 February 2014 19: 10
          +12
          Cancel all elections for 5 years, etc. Well, if he continues to drool, then let him get ready to share the fate of the leaders whom the democratic Americans have destroyed in one way or another.

          Understand, finally, NOBODY in Ukraine DOES NOT support Yanukovych because he is a puppet in the hands of oligarchs who divided Ukraine and pump the last juices out of it. I understand that in Russia you can endure and be proud of Putin, because Russia is a world-class power here and you can tolerate. But in Ukraine everything is wrong, do not measure us with your arshin, the south and east are not for Yanek’s power, but against banderlogs. Say, a neutral president will come, arranging both banks of the Dnieper, so immediately Yanek will rush to Russia to hide ...
          1. Vera
            Vera 5 February 2014 18: 28
            +1
            You are probably right. And Yanukovych is immoral in his petty-local thinking - he apparently considered himself a great strategist. Well, well, played out. Bandera spilled out on Kiev Square. And offended and humiliated support. Now nothing can be reversed. The ulcer has matured .. .
          2. Charley
            Charley 7 February 2014 21: 19
            +1
            Yes, the neutral president will not be happy with the banderlogs, they need power for this, they’ve arranged it, and the east and south will sit and wait for it to end, everyone in Russia hopes that they will again be pulled out of shit by their ears, and the impotent people themselves
      2. makarov
        makarov 3 February 2014 08: 04
        +58
        But the Yanukovychs had colossal opportunities to plunder the country, and they were sure that all this would continue further, after 2015. Thought to be "eternal prezik".
        Although various Western media outlets steadily pour father-in-law Lukashenko on my face, I personally am very impressed and evoke a feeling of respect for the fact that he really identifies the aspirations of the PEOPLE, and Yanukovych’s policy was completely anti-people, for the sake of his beloved and the oligarchy.
        1. 31231
          31231 3 February 2014 08: 16
          +12
          But the Yanukovychs had colossal opportunities to plunder the country, and they were sure that all this would continue further, after 2015. Thought to be "eternal prezik".


          But who didn’t you rob her there ?! Read the Proshenki media alone, so everyone who is except thieves Uncle Petit and the EU.
          You change presidents like gloves, so caliphs come for an hour. Or are you hoping "The next president is not one of the legarchs"?
          Makarov, even in the US, presidents are lobbyists of economic holdings and groups.
          You will not wait for either "Stalin" or "Beria", because the legarchs through their media will immediately make them Kuchmas, Yanukovychs and Azarovs. Your "non-profit" media are already writing that Azarov fired part of the Russian money. And you hung up your ears.
          1. makarov
            makarov 3 February 2014 08: 43
            +12
            SW Sergei!
            Did I say something about Poroshenko, Azarov, or controlled by the media ???
            He expressed his own point of view, and his own vision of what is happening. And only. So why are you talking about poop? Does pity for the oligarchy press? Or maybe the position obliges ???
            1. 31231
              31231 3 February 2014 20: 23
              0
              So why are you talking about poop? Does pity for the oligarchy really press? Or maybe the position obliges ???


              Am I going to poop ?! This is not our country falling apart and state power is heading for anarchy, at best, for the next legarch.
              I am calm for our country. We are slowly recovering. It is you who appoint all the new Pan and expect that Ukraine will immediately become "tse Europe".

              Pity for the oligarchy ?! And who else can you come to power there ?! Klitschko? Yaytsenyuh? Tyagnyvsrak?
              "Sister name, name!" (Tse)

              Every nation deserves its ruler.
              1. Vera
                Vera 5 February 2014 18: 52
                0
                Oh God, how you are Right. "Every nation deserves its ruler." Russia was still lucky. Very well. After the unpredictable Yeltsin, when everything seemed to be flying into hell ...
          2. Old scoop
            Old scoop 3 February 2014 10: 00
            +15
            So there’s no one to choose from. Look who is running for election. Of the two evils, as they say, choose the lesser.
            Remember what Yeltsin did, and Putin was REPRESENTED as a successor, and only then was elected. Fortunately for you, the collapse of Russia could have been stopped otherwise it was blazing on all sides; there are enough small and proud peoples in the federation.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 3 February 2014 11: 22
              +4
              Quote: Old scoop
              . Fortunately for you, Russia’s collapse could have been stopped,

              And who stopped, do not tell?
          3. morpex
            morpex 3 February 2014 11: 35
            +5
            Quote: 31231
            But who didn’t you rob her there ?!

            They all robbed. But those all had "brakes". At least they left something to the people. And this gopnik was blown away. Greed has ruined the frayer ...
            1. 31231
              31231 3 February 2014 20: 32
              +7
              They all robbed. But those all had "brakes". At least they left something to the people. And this gopnik was blown away. Greed has ruined the frayer ...


              You’ve measured all your lords’s mobs ?!
              You also shouted to Kuchma "Get the gang!"
              Yushchenko seemed to steal less, so his body was helpless, Svidomo legarchs and Yulia Grigyan did it for him.
              Yanyk came, somehow crossed the path of Petro Poroshenko, Petya began in his controlled media began a wave of shit on him. Yes, there’s still pan Yanyk EU nevermind. Here anarchy began, in which Petro Poroshenko catches his gesheft. And you are naive with Yanyk fight. Bortsuny, ml. Dolls you are in the hands of kulovodov. A herd of near-by ragul.

              "A crappy dancer always gets in the way." (Tse)
              1. smolnuy
                smolnuy 5 February 2014 12: 24
                +1
                Petro Poroshenko wants to be president. And this will go to any meanness. A LAW is needed to separate politics from business, as then the pinocchio in the parliament will sing from this choice - it’s enough to write your own favorite laws.
                1. ewgeniy41.
                  ewgeniy41. 6 February 2014 03: 39
                  0
                  smolnuy, please tell me, who will pass this law? There are only "wallets" in parliament and that they will separate themselves from the authorities? First, it would be necessary to remove immunity from oneself. But no, no .... It is naive to find the means of a dreamer for solving problems of purely items related to the Criminal Code.
              2. morpex
                morpex 5 February 2014 21: 47
                0
                Quote: 31231
                ... Bortsuny, ml. Dolls you are in the hands of the kulovodov. A herd of close-minded raguli. "A crappy dancer always gets in the way." (Tse)

                Seryozha. How much dirt is there? I didn’t offend you in the process. Do you even have any information about what is happening in Ukraine? Who is the puppeteer, who benefits from the trouble? Honestly, after your outflow of slops, I didn’t want to touch you. Trust me, an eyewitness to events and watch your central channels less at night. You are in Yekaterinburg and I am here, in Ukraine. Who do you think better understands the situation? And please change the swine tone to normal, human when communicating with another person.
          4. So_o_tozh
            So_o_tozh 3 February 2014 19: 15
            +8
            So that's why the Maidan happened, the thieves in power, plus the "help" of the West, got sick ...
            1. 31231
              31231 3 February 2014 20: 35
              +3
              So that's why the Maidan happened, the thieves in power, plus the "help" of the West, got sick ...

              Why didn’t Maidan with Yushchenko? Is it better to live?

              What before Yanyk didn’t maidan on a Russian cutlet? Or did the authorities immediately become thieving after refusing suction from the EU?
              1. smolnuy
                smolnuy 5 February 2014 12: 27
                0
                I didn’t like some in the EU that did not get into bondage.
        2. smel
          smel 3 February 2014 10: 05
          +26
          I share your indignation by robbery. But it is not clear why it was not the palace that was taken by storm, but the square in Kiev. Why she was dirtied, and not the property of his son and Co. And why they tread the flag of Victory on that Maidan, raise anti-Russian sentiments, call for the death of enemies, advocate fascist slogans. Just do not convince me that this is shovels or Putin's propaganda
          1. morpex
            morpex 3 February 2014 11: 50
            +1
            Quote: smel
            I share your indignation by robbery. But it is not clear why it was not the palace that was taken by storm, but the square in Kiev.

            And what's not clear here? All power through and through, from head to toe, all the polls are proteges of the FAMILY. Even in the rural areas there are "overseers". The country has been turned into a ZONE. You can't even imagine how much everything is permeated with corruption and embezzlement. And everything is done insolently, the attitude towards people is bestial. So it's not his business in the palace. The country needs to be saved. And I think there is neither the United States nor Europe. nor Russia will help us. For none of them approaches this topic from the standpoint of altruism. They all want to grab their piece of the pie.
            1. arane
              arane 3 February 2014 12: 44
              +16
              Do not tell. Russia just can help, not from Altruism of course. States are not people; they are not capable of altruism. It’s just that Russia benefits from a prosperous, calm, united and friendly Ukraine. But Russia can and should only help. And you have to do it yourself.
            2. 31231
              31231 3 February 2014 20: 46
              +3
              And what's not clear here? All power through and through, from head to toe, all the polls are proteges of the FAMILY. Even in the rural areas there are "overseers". The country has been turned into a ZONE.


              Do you even keep the conversation thread?
              You were asked: Why did Natsik brood and allowed on the Maidan?
              You’ll answer the same record: This is a thieving power.
              Yes, you do not have adequate power in the West, if there Natsik freedom is chosen as one of the main parties. What the hell is that power ?!
              This is the percentage of "Freedom" during Kuchma's time.


              And this is the percentage of "Freedom" brought up by Yushch and Yanyk's inaction.


              Now catch up with Yanyka, drag the next Yusch to the throne and then again you will yell "Get the gang!" and "Ali's brain is not our brothers!"?
            3. 31231
              31231 3 February 2014 20: 50
              +2
              Image did not insert. I repeat. This is the result of Kuchma’s work.
            4. smolnuy
              smolnuy 5 February 2014 12: 41
              0
              Ask the silly trinity from the opposition what they want and who makes them think of lawlessness in the country, for supporting fascism or for Klitschko to say, for example, there are monuments to fascism in Germany ,,. We do not have Germany, and Ukrainian citizenship is not German, but Ukrainian, so it’s easy to speak. A law is needed, in order to separate politics from business, then many, deputies, would sing in a different way.
            5. Charley
              Charley 7 February 2014 21: 25
              0
              And you would like to be pulled out of shit for free, but what’s that, they like a freebie in Ukraine
          2. So_o_tozh
            So_o_tozh 3 February 2014 19: 18
            +7
            But for such a Zapadenskoye and I’m straight as a Kiev citizen ashamed. sad
          3. smolnuy
            smolnuy 5 February 2014 12: 33
            0
            Now the fascist leader is croaking from London that they have been preparing for 3 years for this dirty trick. The United States has high hopes for them. And then some Ukrainians didn’t want to wear the European Union yoke, which offered to freeze salaries, pensions and all social benefits, but to increase prices for public services.
        3. avt
          avt 3 February 2014 10: 12
          +8
          Quote: makarov
          Although various Western media outlets are steadily spraying father’s father’s Lukoshenko steadily with shit, to me personally, he is very impressed

          The old man is strong with a peasant mind, it did not work through the "union state" to enter the Kremlin - he decided that they were not looking for good for good and it was better to be the first guy but in YOUR village. So he became, and they reckon with him, they grind their teeth, but they do. Yanukovych ..... ,, Don Corleone "unfinished, and even bzdilovat, but so his own fear is not enough to hold on to power and save his own skin, all merges.
        4. your1970
          your1970 3 February 2014 10: 40
          +4
          Does the opposition put forward at least some kind of program or only "Down with Yanukovych and we'll figure it out"?
          1. infinite silence ...
            infinite silence ... 3 February 2014 12: 14
            +17
            No program! ... NO !!! This is what drives you out of yourself! This is not opposition! This is a circus. There is one constant in everything - "Baba Yaga is against!" - a response to any government proposals.
            1. arane
              arane 3 February 2014 12: 51
              +10
              Of course not. There is no opposition there. The opposition is a political movement that does not agree with the policies of the current government. And in Ukraine scum paid by the West. Which do not care about Ukraine and its people. And indeed at all. Well, a lot of people who are confused. Spent by the states of political technology.
              Here is the text of the song of the group "Aria":

              Time of Troubles -
              The ghost of freedom on horseback
              Knee-deep blood
              Like in some wild dream
              People are amused - they beat the old gods,
              People are praying - they are waiting for righteous dreams.

              In the sky a comet -
              Intense misfortune is a sure sign,
              Daybreakers
              The fallen are burned at the stake
              Warriors of darkness - the world - took in the ring,
              Thousands of birds will fall down in the rain.
            2. makarov
              makarov 3 February 2014 13: 10
              +7
              "No program! ... NO! This is what drives you out of yourself! This is not opposition! This is a circus."

              Himself, although far from politics, but t.s. in a minute of weakness I read different materials out of curiosity, and so, yesterday Rabbit posted on Ukrnet info with the program. In principle, the theses are positive. But practically, in life, before beckoning, they always attract sweet ...
              1. arane
                arane 3 February 2014 13: 36
                +6
                Exactly. Churchill also said that a true politician is one who can predict the future, and then explain why this did not happen.
                Those. always lie almost everywhere
              2. 31231
                31231 3 February 2014 20: 58
                +4
                Putin didn’t upload anything here. He worked with EBN, and established himself as an executive and responsible employee. I got out to the presidency and is now working calmly and confidently.
                And those liberalists and Nazis who are shouting at the Swamp Maidans "Get out gang!" have long been omitted and cause laughter in many, no matter how much left dough is pumped into them.
                So read on the program Yushchenko and Yaytsenyuhov, and then wait for the panuvania.
                Smart people judge a person by actions, not by chatter in the election program.
              3. infinite silence ...
                infinite silence ... 6 February 2014 21: 33
                +1
                Quote: makarov
                always beckoning sweet ...

                Yes, we know ... their sweet is mixed on the same flour as the cookies from Katherine Ashton ...
            3. builder
              builder 3 February 2014 21: 30
              +3
              The Syrian opposition recalls. What is not surprising - the puppeteers and screenwriters are the same.
              1. 31231
                31231 3 February 2014 21: 53
                +1
                You cannot convince them. They sincerely believe that they are not so, that they are different. They also have the main argument "We are not slaves!" They have spawned these "non-slaves" in the Western region, and now, instead of fighting them, they are fighting the Berkut.
        5. Ivan_Ivanov
          Ivan_Ivanov 3 February 2014 13: 02
          +16
          But the Yanukovychs had colossal opportunities to plunder the country, and they were sure that all this would continue further, after 2015. Thought to be "eternal prezik".

          This cannot be an excuse for attempting a Nazi coup, it cannot be an excuse for his support.
        6. DMB-78
          DMB-78 3 February 2014 14: 06
          +8
          Quote: makarov
          Although various Western media outlets steadily watered Papa Lukoshenko with shit

          Well, if they water, then he does everything right
          1. 31231
            31231 3 February 2014 21: 03
            +3
            Old Man is simply not soft-bodied and bent all the unworthy media with cancer. This is democracy in Ukraine, who wants to, then chatters without being responsible for their bazaar. The old man sent all the magazines either to the jail or to the West, let them yap.
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        8. shapkin14
          shapkin14 3 February 2014 15: 50
          0
          Agree to 100%
      3. Kolya
        Kolya 3 February 2014 08: 17
        +23
        Washington will lose in Ukraine only in one case, if Eastern Ukraine unites around a new leader, a leader who is free from ties with oligarchs and a corruption swamp. It is necessary to raise the people in the east not for the current government, but against the European integration of Ukraine "conspired" by the West, and pray that a new leader will appear in this struggle. Raising Yanukovych's support is deja vu, the people are already fed up with his lies, and while Yanyk is a leader, he will suppress the emergence of a new leader. Now the population's rejection of European integration in the east is ruled by the rotten, corrupt government for its own selfish interests. The East needs its own reboot, otherwise the West will deal with the reboot throughout Ukraine.
        1. domokl
          domokl 3 February 2014 09: 49
          +10
          Quote: Kohl
          Washington will lose in Ukraine only in one case if Eastern Ukraine unites around a new leader, a leader

          Almost always, the author speaks clearly and with an understanding of the situation. But today, logical conclusions have broken down on the fundamental foundations of the Maidan ...
          I wonder who needs Ukraine? Europe? The EU will not pull such a large country. These are not microbes, such as Cyprus. Now there are enough problems in the EU. USA? The same situation. The Americans need a bridgehead to deploy a fleet and a military base. And for this, the western part of Ukraine is quite enough. Russia? It is doubtful. We understand that in a certain situation, post-war time will repeat in Ukraine. In the west, Ukraine will dig up Bandera and others like that with them from the bunkers.
          Thus, a united Ukraine is needed (and even doubtfully) only by Ukrainians. It is strange, but only a small part of Ukrainians. Most treat the opposite side as enemies. By the way, we also sin this, including me. We do not consider the Maidan people as Ukrainians We say one thing, but in our hearts, we don’t think. Why wag.
          From this, the conclusion is that the first stage of the collapse has been fully completed. De facto Ukraine is divided into three parts ... And soon there will be de jure (I’m waiting for the draft federal law in the Rada)
          And the second stage begins. The bottom line is to prevent the creation of a federal state. It is necessary to force everyone to split up really. And then the task of everyone will be completed. The Americans get Western Ukraine, completely dependent on the West. Russia is eastern, loyal and industrialized .. .In Crimea, a state is created that is loyal to Russia, but independent, which makes it possible, in the future, to talk about the possibility of the revival of the Crimean Tatar state (Turkey rubs its hands) ...
          So the interesting samon begins right now. The armies are gathering. Intolerance is growing ...
          1. Crimean
            Crimean 3 February 2014 13: 26
            +5
            I agree 100% !!!!!!!!!!
        2. arane
          arane 3 February 2014 12: 53
          +4
          Absolutely right! This, with the omission of the authorities, can lead to civil war. And what will it lead to ......

          Who will win this war between the Russian Federation and the USA?

          But this is the way out. Resistance to brown and star-striped plague should be organized
        3. smolnuy
          smolnuy 5 February 2014 12: 18
          0
          Need a law to separate politics from business.
      4. Vladimir.z.
        Vladimir.z. 3 February 2014 09: 20
        +4
        Quote: mirag2
        ... Yanukovych was not able to rule the country, and this is the result ...


        You’re right, dear, judging by the fact that in Ukraine this is a war of clans and financial gangs, and the United States and Europeans can do it at the hands of others, and at minimal financial cost, puppets can be easily manipulated for their own purposes against Russia .. .
      5. Natalia
        Natalia 3 February 2014 09: 38
        +30
        an article called Why Washington Loses in Ukraine ....
        The answer is simple: but because the truth is behind us, then we are stronger.) wink
        1. domokl
          domokl 3 February 2014 09: 51
          +3
          Quote: Natalia
          because the truth is FOR US, then we are stronger.)

          Are you now speaking on behalf of whom? The same can be said lol , and Sevastopol Wolves, and oriental folk warriors
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 February 2014 09: 56
            +3
            Quote: domokl
            The Maidanutye, the Sevyastopol Wolves, and the eastern national warriors say exactly the same

            Sanya, well, you know the truth, because you spit out what the maidanuts say.
            Hi hi
            1. domokl
              domokl 3 February 2014 09: 59
              +4
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              , well, you know the truth, because you spit out what the maid

              I know ... hi hi But, you know, Sasha, this is my truth. And they have their own ... Notice is not the truth, but the truth ... And for the truth, most often, you have to fight to the blood, to death ... But I don’t want something .. .
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 3 February 2014 10: 03
                +3
                Quote: domokl
                .And for the truth, most often, you have to fight to the blood, to death ... But I do not want something ...

                The problem is that I don’t have much choice, you don’t have request
          2. Natalia
            Natalia 3 February 2014 11: 32
            +4
            Quote: domokl
            Are you now speaking on behalf of whom? Just like the Maydanuty, and the Sevyastopol Wolves, and the eastern people's warriors

            yes, good to you, I don’t think that the Maydans (as you said) will quote Danila Bagrova from the movie Brother 2.
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              1. nekromonger
                nekromonger 3 February 2014 19: 57
                +2
                this is not a thief, thieves live according to other laws and do not concern the authorities, etc. this is some kind of loshara-natsik, to whom the aunts broke into a bread slicer and his threats are zilch.
            2. arane
              arane 3 February 2014 13: 08
              +2
              Hello Natalia! Remember "Scythians" by A. Blok?
              If not, then read in nete. Very relevant to the moment. I think YOU will be interested!
      6. GDP
        GDP 3 February 2014 11: 17
        +2
        Three-headed opposition demands

        Just like about the snake Gorynycha. There is smoke and conflagration too ...
        And in the role of the kidnapped red girl - probably Yanukovych himself :) Well, or the presidency.

        Here are just a Russian hero is not enough - probably sleeping ...
      7. Ross
        Ross 3 February 2014 13: 09
        +3
        Quote: mirag2
        Russia is preparing today for the Olympic Games in Sochi, but what is the West preparing for? ..

        And the West has not in vain trained the young Ukrainians for 20 years ... He is preparing for us 2 Poland, the ardent enemy of Russia
    2. ele1285
      ele1285 3 February 2014 08: 06
      +6
      Quote: Cormorants
      Soon all this riffraff will be dispersed in Ukraine, where the East rises with the Cossacks, the patience of the people burst.

      While the frosts are standing, pour this damn Maidan water knee-deep, they will scatter themselves.
      1. olviko
        olviko 3 February 2014 08: 29
        +23
        "While the frosts are standing, pour water knee-deep into this damn Maidan, they will scatter themselves."

        Let one Soviet joke on the topic: Khrushchev calls Nasser during the Arab-Israeli war
        “Why are you letting us down like that?” We armed you to the teeth, and you retreated right up to Cairo. Shame on you, comrade!
        Nasser:
        - In vain you scold us so! We follow the tactics of Kutuzov: let them go to the capital, and now we are waiting for the frost !!!
      2. morpex
        morpex 3 February 2014 12: 33
        -3
        Quote: ele1285
        While the frosts are standing, pour this damn Maidan water knee-deep, they will scatter themselves.

        This is unlikely. The Germans there, the French, would have fled. Ours is not.
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 3 February 2014 12: 36
          +4
          Quote: morpex
          Our not.

          They are definitely not ours for me.
          1. morpex
            morpex 3 February 2014 13: 30
            -3
            Quote: ele1285
            They are definitely not ours for me.

            What do you really think there are some raccoons? Listen to what Ukrainians say. Is this your opinion? [Media = http: // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? Feature = player_embedded & v =
            ME-XCpeNDkw]
            1. ele1285
              ele1285 3 February 2014 15: 09
              +5
              Quote: morpex
              are there only raguli?

              What does “one raguli have to do with it.” You will not argue that the actions of the so-called "Maidan defenders" is already an administrative offense. Driving in the oncoming lane takes away the rights and what he thought when he violated, few people care, the person was punished. There is no punishment here, and at the same time they consider themselves heroes. The law should be. Otherwise each is his own master, then anarchy and civil war with local chieftains at the head.
              1. morpex
                morpex 3 February 2014 15: 55
                +3
                Quote: ele1285
                actions of the so-called "defenders of the Maidan" is already an administrative offense.

                Quote: ele1285
                The law should be

                I agree with both statements. A simple question. Do the actions of the authorities who brought the country to the clinic be legitimate? And how can you deal with the authorities if she doesn’t even want to listen to the people who elected her? Tolerate further?
                1. ele1285
                  ele1285 3 February 2014 16: 36
                  +1
                  Quote: morpex
                  A simple question. The actions of the authorities who brought the country to the clinic according to your

                  The simple answer is, I can’t judge your authority, I don’t live in Ukraine. But instead of a zoo on Independence Square, why not hold a referendum and use fighters as volunteers. IMHO. After all, judging by the picture, there are shkolota and gopniks. ideological people, but I doubt that they do the weather there.
            2. ArhipenkoAndrey
              ArhipenkoAndrey 3 February 2014 17: 05
              +1
              Not only maidanutye, but also e..ty, deceived and democrats and other parasites, or am I wrong? For the Ukrainian economy, arranging such long holidays for yourself is like death!
            3. avt
              avt 3 February 2014 17: 31
              +6
              Quote: morpex
              Listen to what Ukrainians say.

              Always listening. Here a day ago a joke came from Ukraine. Why is Yanukovych ill? I met with representatives of the opposition. Now Vitya is sitting at home with a black eye, and Vitalik was left without a fur hat in the cold.
    3. SibRUS
      SibRUS 3 February 2014 08: 23
      +4
      "Washington Post": "Putin lost the battle for Ukraine"

      ... The Washington Post writes that an attempt to establish a dictatorship in Ukraine according to the Russian model completely failed ...


      But the "handshake" and "dermokraticheskaya pressa" have a different opinion.
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    5. AVV
      AVV 3 February 2014 14: 40
      +5
      Quote: Cormorants
      Soon all this riffraff will be dispersed in Ukraine, where the East rises with the Cossacks, the patience of the people burst.

      For twenty years, a mess under the leadership of heads of state, deciding only their interests, not paying attention to the problems of ordinary people of Ukraine, ordinary people can no longer endure, therefore all Bendery coups are doomed to failure !!! That's why Europe is silent and does not condemn Euromaidanists, because that behind them stick ears of the USA and European states !!!
    6. skeptic
      skeptic 3 February 2014 16: 58
      +3
      Quote: Cormorants
      Soon all this riffraff will be dispersed in Ukraine, where the East rises with the Cossacks, the patience of the people burst.


      Dreams, dreams - where is your sweetness ...

      Let's try to look differently. If we assume that the West is preparing the seizure of Ukraine, then the first is after a quick coup, snatching the pro-Western government, which will instantly ask for NATO's “roof” against the eastern “separatists.” Regional administrations (most likely, already prepared administrative groups) will enter with a package of relevant decisions ... If we assume that the West has negotiated the terms of the surrender of the country with Yanukovych (with the preservation of foreign savings), then the Olympics are an ideal alibi and security guarantees for the participants in the collusion. If this is so, then the "temporary" lull of Euromaidowns fits in well. Now the dispersal of forces is being carried out to seize weapons depots and military units. It is quite possible that at the same time sorties of the "Islamic" NATO Sonderkommando will be organized in different parts of Russia to distract from the events in Ukraine.

      God forbid make a mistake. I really do not want to be right. But...
    7. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 3 February 2014 18: 41
      +1
      Maybe someone did not hear.

      The leader of the Ukrainian opposition movement “Spilna on the Right” (“Common Affair”), Oleksandr Danilyuk, left the country. He wrote about this on Facebook. He explained his departure by the threat of arrest, as well as by the machinations of “counter-revolutionaries”.

      “Without even warning the guards, I changed clothes, pulled on a balaclava and left a Khreshchatyk ...” the opposition official said. - At night I crossed the border. Today finally [London] reached ”(spelling and punctuation of the original preserved - approx. Lenti.ru). He added that from now on he intends to “coordinate in exile”.

      Representatives of the "Common cause", we recall, recently seized several government buildings in Kiev. At the same time, Danilyuk himself claimed that he was "authorized to create an interim government."

      Earlier, at the end of January, Danilyuk reported that he was put on the All-Ukrainian wanted list. This information has been confirmed. As it turned out, the activist is wanted on suspicion of involvement in the riots.

      “Tymoshenko proved that sitting nobly, but ineffectively,” the activist wrote, commenting on his departure. “We're not going to surrender.”
    8. ochakow703
      ochakow703 3 February 2014 19: 34
      +1
      Eh, your words would be in the ears of God. I fully agree with the fact that the southeast has become more active. But the word "soon" raises concerns. It will take a long time to clean up this mess, even under the most optimistic scenarios. Only here the Western jackals are not at all in a peaceful mood.
      1. alone
        alone 3 February 2014 20: 07
        +1
        If the government has a head on its shoulders, it must immediately begin to act in order to stop the fragmentation of society.
        Otherwise, the people of Ukraine will lose.
    9. Gennady1973
      Gennady1973 6 February 2014 20: 06
      0
      I ask for apologies. I think so too, but I don’t see the real one! Maidan is heard by sight in sight, etc. where they just beat the guys who have an unequivocal order .... do not climb ... neither the Maidan nor the Klitschko and the like would not be in the morning, any day. SURE.
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    12. Stalker
      Stalker 7 February 2014 20: 08
      0
      Ordinary fighters, unlike their leaders, do not hide, they say to the camera that their goal is the physical destruction of the Golden Eagle

      Well, they made fun! Whinnying to tears !!! Several thousand unwashed against the embittered and hardened "Berkut" unit to which help will always come ... fool
    13. Oleksandr
      Oleksandr 9 February 2014 15: 02
      0
      Be sure to disperse, Maidan, Freedom, Blow and at the same time Yanukovych and Co. for the company.
  2. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 3 February 2014 07: 41
    +25
    I am sure that sooner or later Ukraine will reunite with Russia. The West also knows this, and the later it happens, the more victims and destruction there will be in Malorosiya, the better our "partners" are. So they bet on chaos, i.e. on benders not finished.
    1. domokl
      domokl 3 February 2014 09: 56
      +5
      Quote: FC Skif
      I am sure that Ukraine will sooner or later reunite with Russia

      And western? Is your confidence pleasant for the Russian eye (given that I read the post), but here’s a nasty thought in my head-Do I want my grandchildren to run around the Ukrainian forests again and smoke from Bandera’s dugouts and caches?
  3. kind
    kind 3 February 2014 07: 53
    +9
    Russia is preparing today for the Olympic Games in Sochi, but what is the West preparing for? ..

    And the West is preparing to shit everywhere.
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 3 February 2014 08: 14
      +6
      Quote: Good
      And the West is preparing to shit everywhere.


      Old as the world .. a long-known fact.
    2. Arhj
      Arhj 3 February 2014 09: 22
      +3
      And what to do if the West has not been suffering from indigestion since the collapse of the USSR. The disease must be treated. It helps "with a boot in the face", but where to find such a boot.
    3. domokl
      domokl 3 February 2014 10: 02
      +3
      Quote: Good
      And the West is preparing to shit everywhere.

      laughing I read about the same words today at one of the French forums ... Only the first word was Russia lol
      The policy is called, however ...
  4. parus2nik
    parus2nik 3 February 2014 07: 56
    +8
    On the day of the opening of the Olympics in Beijing, Georgia attacked South Ossetia .. What can I expect on the day of the opening of the Olympics in Sochi in Ukraine?
    1. morpex
      morpex 3 February 2014 12: 54
      +2
      Quote: parus2nik
      On the day of the opening of the Olympics in Beijing, Georgia attacked South Ossetia .. What can I expect on the day of the opening of the Olympics in Sochi in Ukraine?

      Nothing. Calm down. There will be no civil war or invasion there. Southeast residents will not go to kill for Yanukovych, even if they are told about fascists from Western Ukraine. For 200 hryvnia they’ll go to the rally, but not to kill. They’re going to burn the government block. Residents of Western Ukraine will not go to war in the Donbass. Why do they need it? They will go on burning the government quarter. We are trying to intimidate with absurdities about the civil war and the annexation of the southwestern regions. This is an information war exploiting fear. You must understand this. The differences between left-bank Ukraine and the right-bank are a blessing and a priceless gift. Let the contradictions between east and west not oppress you. There is nothing worse for people's freedom than unanimity - but by definition it is impossible in Ukraine.
      However, this is my opinion, I do not impose it on anyone.
  5. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 3 February 2014 07: 57
    +12
    Russia is preparing today for the Olympic Games in Sochi, but what is the West preparing for? ..

    And the West and the United States, I have no doubt, are "preparing" to spoil the holiday, for sure they have already prepared "surprises" for Russia, both in Russia itself and abroad. I would like to hope that the Russian special services are NACHEKU and all the plans of the "partners" will fail.
  6. siberalt
    siberalt 3 February 2014 07: 58
    +6
    I do not think that Putin has no plans to resolve the Ukrainian crisis. But America is no less interested in this. Yanukovych passed everything he could, only he remained. It is unlikely that he will sit until the next re-election. We need a new, capable government to be formed there in a completely democratic way. Americans do not need it. They need a puppet government with their proteges. And then someone will replay whom. The rate is too high.
    1. SibRUS
      SibRUS 3 February 2014 08: 35
      +9
      = .. yesterday in Munich on the square sounded the Ukrainian anthem. At the same time, there were Germans, Czechs, Slovaks: “All those who believe and know that Ukraine will become part of Europe. =
      - until recently we were convinced that it was WE who needed to join the EU and not IM, they put all sorts of stupid conditions for signing the association (like the release of YUVT). Today, anyone has questions - who really needed it? WE HAVE not decided anything yet, most of the people are against it - and they already KNOW better than we do that we will become a part of them. The situation is absolutely similar to the one when we were dragged to NATO against our will. Fuck your Munich uncles - we will not become any part of you, no matter how long you sing the hymn "shche ne vmerla"!

      These are the general mood in Ukraine at the moment. Opps themselves digging a hole for themselves.
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  7. predator.3
    predator.3 3 February 2014 08: 00
    +10
    Now Yanukovych is looking for compromises, and offered an amnesty to the detainees (about 300 people), but with the conditions for the release of part of the seized administrative buildings. The opposition refused to make any concessions to the authorities, but the attacks on the Golden Eagle stopped


    Yanukovych did not turn out to be a "Ukrainian Lukashenko", he seems to be a respectable man, but he is somehow spineless, there is no inner core! Here, searching for "compromises" will not solve the problem, all this trash must be crushed!
    1. Old scoop
      Old scoop 3 February 2014 10: 07
      +9
      Lord, what are you talking about! You will watch his first public appearances, shame and shame. And the notorious questionnaire with a "professional". Where did you see the solidity there? Threatening a reporter who asked an uncomfortable question about his son's business is solid in the style of Kirkorov.
      You look at our political establishment, there is no one to choose from :(
      1. muhomor
        muhomor 3 February 2014 23: 00
        +1
        Old man! choose Vitrenko.
  8. Diviz
    Diviz 3 February 2014 08: 02
    +3
    The opposition does not have a leader and will not. They will mattress them and throw them away. Give them money abroad. For this money, they will begin to gnaw at each other's throats.
  9. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 3 February 2014 08: 08
    +13
    And what Poland has quieted down, it’s their citizens who were burned, fired, hanged in the Bandera’s 40s. And Israel, what about this says. After all, anti-Jewish slogans sound on the Maidan.
    1. mountain
      mountain 3 February 2014 09: 11
      +15
      They say, but in a whisper, that the Americans would not hear. wassat
    2. Kushadasov
      Kushadasov 3 February 2014 10: 26
      +2
      After all, anti-Jewish slogans sound on the Maidan.


      But a crazy thought came to my mind that these slogans were being pushed by the Jews themselves. Yes Yes. In order to once again attract attention to himself, he will rise above others and give a certain "holocaust" to this problem. They say they want to beat us again ... well, we will defend ourselves by any means. "

      If not, why is Israel silent? (Which, by the way, spoke in support of "Rain")
      1. Vera
        Vera 5 February 2014 19: 29
        0
        What nonsense. Let's hang all the dogs on the Jews, as usual. It’s not the first time for them to endure. And the maydanutyh-in "Heroi" !!!!!!!!!!
    3. Kushadasov
      Kushadasov 3 February 2014 10: 26
      +1
      After all, anti-Jewish slogans sound on the Maidan.


      But a crazy thought came to my mind that these slogans were being pushed by the Jews themselves. Yes Yes. In order to once again attract attention to himself, he will rise above others and give a certain "holocaust" to this problem. They say they want to beat us again ... well, we will defend ourselves by any means. "

      If not, why is Israel silent? (Which, by the way, spoke in support of "Rain")
    4. Motors1991
      Motors1991 3 February 2014 15: 04
      +10
      But what can Israel say? At the head of Freedom is Jew Tyagnibok, her Jews are financing Kolomoisky, Bogolyubov and others are not far behind. As for the Maidan, I wrote before and now I repeat - this is a mutiny of the oligarchs against the Family of Yanukovych if the Maidan is somehow threatened the interests of the oligarchy in Ukraine, they would have already given a couple of thousand bucks to the riot police on their nose and they would have not only cleaned up, but had already washed the area. I don’t even smell of the interests of Ukraine or Russia. To add to this, I add, a message appeared yesterday that the former Prime Minister Azarov flew home with his private plane, and his house is in Austria in a suburb of Vienna. Now there is someone here who says he is a son of a bitch, he is our son of a bitch, he is not an Austrian son of a bitch, his house there, not with us and not in Russia.
  10. disa
    disa 3 February 2014 08: 15
    +11
    Well, to understand that it (the west) is not difficult, "trustworthy Tsar" ... Give the Kemsk parish ... Just do not do.hren. But whether they want? General mobilization loomed ..., and there, as soon as our men move to help Ukraine, they will give us the Caucasus ... a war on two fronts ... a dumb two-way and mate ... as it seems to them. But as they say, when it seems necessary to be baptized ...
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    2. Goodmen
      Goodmen 3 February 2014 16: 06
      +1
      Quote: disa
      and there, as soon as our men move to the aid of Ukraine, they will give us on the heels of the Caucasus ...


      then we will solve two problems at once
      and in the second case - it is necessary very hard and fast, not like in the last two
  11. Mviktor
    Mviktor 3 February 2014 08: 38
    +5
    Quote: Cormorants
    Soon all this riffraff will be dispersed in Ukraine, where the East rises with the Cossacks, the patience of the people burst.

    They must drive the fascists together with Yanukovych and his gang and the Jews oligarchs
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen 3 February 2014 16: 09
      +1
      Quote: Mviktor
      They must drive the fascists together with Yanukovych and his gang and the Jews oligarchs


      Duc forester needed, as in that joke ... in which the forester drove out of the woods and partisans and Germans)))
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  12. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 3 February 2014 08: 39
    +6
    from the Don.
    Let the West get ready to accept: relatives: -banderlogs as they are squeezed out to the West!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 3 February 2014 11: 38
      +7
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      Let the West get ready to accept: relatives: -banderlogs as they are squeezed out to the West!

      Yesterday in the news, one Donetsk miner said about the Banderaites: "Let them go, we have deep mines, there is enough room for everyone!" So in the east of Ukraine they are also expected, but in their own way.
  13. builder
    builder 3 February 2014 08: 44
    +6
    Ukraine needs Pinochet. Who would go in for sports with Bendery riffraff in Kiev stadiums
  14. nemec55
    nemec55 3 February 2014 08: 45
    +11
    And here I am still amazed with Klitschko’s stupidity, well, you have to be so stupid not to be able to connect two words. And what to say about the cattle that comes after him. belay
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    2. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 3 February 2014 09: 53
      +2
      Quote: nemec55


      And here I am still amazed with the stupidity of Klitschko


      So DEUTCH has already become a family.

      If it was possible to "hug" - he would hug everyone for.
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      2. Kushadasov
        Kushadasov 3 February 2014 12: 59
        +2
        It is he who now thinks that he is all so brave, on horseback, in the vanguard of "revolutionary" events. But he is not able to understand that he is a banal traitor. It's a smelly fifth column. And in the future, even the one who hired him will wipe his feet on him.
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    4. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 3 February 2014 10: 00
      +2
      Quote: nemec55
      And what can we say about the cattle that follows him


      Unfortunately, there are many smart ones among the "cattle"!

      Are there any thoughts here?
    5. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 3 February 2014 11: 43
      +3
      Quote: nemec55
      But I’m still amazed with Klitschko’s stupidity, well, it’s necessary to be so stupid not to be able to connect two words

      "The power is there, the mind is not necessary!"
    6. zzz
      zzz 3 February 2014 16: 37
      +1
      Quote: nemec55
      And here I am still amazed with Klitschko’s stupidity, well, you have to be so stupid not to be able to connect two words. And what to say about the cattle that comes after him.


      The Sharikovs are eager for power ... fool
  15. tank64rus
    tank64rus 3 February 2014 08: 47
    +9
    The West is preparing for a war for the resources of Russia, and Ukraine is only a link in this chain.
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  16. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 3 February 2014 08: 57
    +3
    The neo-Nazi Bandera brew in the center of Kiev on the Euromaidan continues to boil, supported by Western money, the media, instructors and political pressure on President V. Yanukovych.

    They will choke on the porridge that has been brewed.
  17. philip
    philip 3 February 2014 09: 00
    +4
    What is it? Yanukovych, sick, Azarov and the government are retired, on the nose of the Olympics. Sashenkin ships in Germany will enter the Black Sea. Nashashki airplanes are ready. Well, the flyer !!!
    Hope of course the last dies ,,,
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 3 February 2014 10: 58
      +2
      Quote: Philip
      Sashenkin ships in Germany will enter the Black Sea. Nashashki airplanes are ready. Well, the flyer !!!

      and we have Admiral Kuznetsov in the Mediterranean. Do you think it looms in vain? smile
      1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
        +1
        Quote: DMB-78
        and we have Admiral Kuznetsov in the Mediterranean. Do you think it looms in vain?


        Meanwhile, two American warships with marines on board entered the Black Sea

        http://warfiles.ru/show-47565-dva-amerikanskih-boevyh-korablya-s-morpehami-na-bo
        rtu-voshli-v-chernoe-more.html
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 3 February 2014 16: 07
          +1
          I think, if necessary, and our boat will be in time
  18. Vladimir 70
    Vladimir 70 3 February 2014 09: 19
    +7
    When Janek came to power, he only began to row everything under himself. I closed my eyes to Tyagnibok's "Svolota" and would not be surprised if I also sponsored it. With the help of "Svolota", frightening the population, he was going to crawl for a second term in 2015 and rule "forever". His son lost his sense of proportion, began to squeeze out the business from everyone, the same Kolomoisky had an attempt to squeeze it out. But Kolomoisky turned out to be a "tough nut to crack" and his son got some sniffing. While Lousy rowed everything in a row, the West prepared, not without the help of disgruntled oligarchs, radical militants from the so-called "Right Sector" And they did not prepare on the territory of Ukraine - here is the SBU's greetings. We must, of course, fight back with a banderlog, but only after the lousy fate of Ceausescu befalls.
    1. Old scoop
      Old scoop 3 February 2014 10: 10
      +4
      You ask how security has been castrated during the time of quasimode and hat-stealing.
  19. both s69
    both s69 3 February 2014 09: 39
    +14
    Bad thing, men. It seems that war will come to our house soon. May God grant us all spiritual and physical strength to withstand the island monster that has risen up against us, drinking human blood and eating dollar stools! It’s just right to start singing the anthem of the Second World War: Get up a huge country! .. Our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated, the victory will be ours !!!angry request
    1. ArhipenkoAndrey
      ArhipenkoAndrey 3 February 2014 09: 48
      +6
      I would put one more plus but it’s impossible, but apparently it will be so - it’s a matter of time, this time they turned very cool, as in 1939, and as close to the borders of Russia.
  20. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 3 February 2014 09: 46
    +5
    How much I watch the events in Ukraine and I can't understand, maybe they have different laws, but in any state an attempt to seize power by force is a criminal offense, so why the same Berkut or the troops have not yet begun to grab the Bender-American scum and to throw in jail?
  21. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 3 February 2014 09: 46
    +4
    That is, how it is not heard voices, because most recently these voices demanded to remove the golden eagle from Kiev and give the bandits the opportunity to completely completely destroy buildings and administrative buildings, burn buses and create lawlessness in all senses, the owners of the Maydans vote for them very much.
  22. treskoed
    treskoed 3 February 2014 09: 47
    +2
    And time doesn’t work for Bandera and the US State Department, because the “Ukrainian Front” is strengthening at that time in the South-East of Ukraine,

    So you need to provide the financial assistance promised by Russia through Eastern Ukraine!
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 3 February 2014 10: 18
      +2
      Quote: treskoed
      So you need to provide the financial assistance promised by Russia through Eastern Ukraine!

      Our officials even came up with a name - it's called "targeted assistance" (though we have it - it is used to turn out pockets) smile . Really-specific areas of Ukraine, such assistance would not hurt. And the fascists would not be hit.
      PS By the way, about the Maidan. On the situation in Thailand: "In order to rid society of the Shinawatra’s influence, the opposition, which is dominated by people from the urban middle class, is ready for a “temporary” deviation from modern democratic norms - until the moment when the entire electorate becomes, in the words of one of the leaders of the protest, "Educated enough to think for yourself" and "sufficiently aware of political reality so as not to sell their vote for direct and indirect bribes from politicians.""BANGKOK, February 3 - RIA Novosti, Evgeny Belenky. He wrote curiously. Just like about our" liberals ".
  23. both s69
    both s69 3 February 2014 09: 50
    +6
    Russian services specializing in the fight against information and software influences from outside urgently need to STRENGTHEN their activities: block, crack and destroy the resources of Bandera and their overseas patrons through the creation of viruses, worms and spyware. In general, the Snowden case must be untwisted in full!
    Ukraine is ALREADY Russia! There is nowhere to retreat! The enemy is at the THRESHOLD! angry
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    2. builder
      builder 3 February 2014 21: 24
      +1
      Smart offer "+"
  24. morpogr
    morpogr 3 February 2014 09: 52
    +2
    Evidently, things are bad in the United States and the geyropa they need a mess, they need a war only this way they can improve their financial situation. Ukraine is the next step after the Arab spring, then try on Russia where there is something to profit from and go to China. It is becoming stronger and already threatening geopolitical interests. USA.
  25. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 3 February 2014 09: 53
    +2
    The winner is the one who has more passionarity, how many people are there in Ukraine? 50 million? So Bandera and so on. may be 1% of them, but if the remaining 99% do nothing, then this 1% will win, as the saying goes: "In order for evil to prevail, it is enough for good to do nothing." And feeling behind the back the support of such powerful forces as Washington , Wall Street and Frankfurt Bandera are not afraid of anything at all and nobody is afraid, because it is clear that the President of Ukraine is trite to take adequate measures to disperse the bandits, you see, Yanukovych was hinted, they say, "Vitya, do not twitch, do not ...", "on the hook “Vitya has probably been sitting for a long time and tightly, but Russia, what can Russia?” To be indignant and morally support, sorry, but this is not enough, Russia may stop giving money, but for the Bandera members this will only simplify the task, they will immediately say: “Here Maskali has proved once again their deceit and duplicity, so they threw you, let's go to our UPA "And surely someone will break.
  26. MsRedMaster
    MsRedMaster 3 February 2014 10: 01
    +6
    When asked how Washington will lose, Old Man answered very well:
    Especially the phrase about the character pleased!
  27. Stinger
    Stinger 3 February 2014 10: 04
    +6
    The era of the search for those responsible for the "Holodomor" and those who eat lard in Ukraine seems to be coming to an end. Cunning, starting with Kravchuk, skated enough on this topic. Yanukovych's Nadezhda continued to puff out her cheeks, exploiting the same theme did not come true. It turns out that continuous clarification of the relationship between those who want to eat pineapples is not enough for an independent existence. In addition, we need to work. In my opinion, whatever the outcome of events, Ukraine will not be the same as it was.
  28. veteran56
    veteran56 3 February 2014 10: 16
    +4
    It is alarming that the EU is very loyal to the manifestations of fascism in the republics of the former USSR. This applies to the Baltic states, and now to Ukraine. Bandera’s supported by European politicians openly demonstrate hateful principles and even get paid for it. Slogans to destroy the Jews and how she they don’t really fit in with the European principles that tolerant Europe advocates so much. And how, it will be interesting to know, do Bandera's people treat same-sex marriages so hotly advertised by tolerant Europeans? Why is Israel silent in response to the slogans of the followers of Shukhevych and Bandera to destroy the Jews? There are a lot of questions, but unfortunately there are no answers. So maybe we don't give a shit about the conventions and give this evil to tinsel so that it’s not disastrous! And it’s also outraged by the fact that in Moscow a group of nonsense people is trying to organize a fundraiser to help the maydans. our valiant law enforcement or will we soon see the barricades on Red Square? Enough to look back at the opinions of uncles and aunts from abroad! To block the pipe to Europe and see how they will react and change their principles. It’s disgusting for me as a Russian citizen to see how impudent EU representatives are trying to humiliate my Motherland. It’s time to give a decent answer. It’s time to support fraternal Eastern Ukraine! We can’t leave them alone in trouble! Russia, Belarus and Ukraine must be together!
    1. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 3 February 2014 10: 20
      +4
      It is alarming that the EU is very loyal to the manifestations of fascism in the republics of the former USSR
      There is just nothing unusual here. Hitler was also loyal
  29. Altona
    Altona 3 February 2014 10: 17
    +2
    Quote: FC Skif
    I am sure that Ukraine will sooner or later reunite with Russia.

    ------------------------
    What will reunite there? What is the perimeter? What will be the scenario for Ukraine's transformation? God forbid in the Yugoslavian version. Forcing aggression and street elements may well lead to the invasion of "multinational forces" with "peacekeeping" bombing of the industrial potential of Ukraine. Plus the appetites of Hungary and Romania, and maybe Poland, for the rejection of "their historical" outskirts ... Too many wolf and jackal mouths open ... The situation is stalemate ...
    1. ioann1
      ioann1 3 February 2014 17: 35
      0
      Do not forget about the role of Russia and the Will of God. The situation is not stalemate!
    2. yur
      yur 3 February 2014 20: 06
      0
      Unlikely. Ukraine is not Yugoslavia, and the most important thing in Russia is not the 99th, but the 2014th year.
  30. Bars90
    Bars90 3 February 2014 10: 22
    +12
    The USA, having put all the chips on Bendera’s ... But, they didn’t understand that it was Russian roulette and we click on the trigger We ... We spin the drum! )))
  31. Altona
    Altona 3 February 2014 10: 26
    +2
    Quote: veteran56
    It is alarming that the EU is very loyal to the manifestations of fascism in the republics of the former USSR. This applies to the Baltic states, and now to Ukraine. Bandera’s backed by European politicians openly demonstrate hateful principles and even get paid for it. Slogans to destroy the Jews and how she they don’t really fit in with the European principles that tolerant Europe so advocates.

    ---------------------------
    These are quite understandable principles of double standards and a strategy based on the export of fascism in order to disorganize the governing bodies of the country. Fascism, both in the classical and in the "friendly" version: the imposition of liberal ideology, social Darwinism, the interests of small quasi-social groups (LGBT community, dissidents, nihilists) ...
  32. oscar
    oscar 3 February 2014 10: 40
    +1
    The Olympics are approaching and everything is somehow fading ... And the chemical weapons are being taken out of Syria and the Ukrainian authorities are inactive. We are waiting, waiting, gentlemen, what will be the provocation ...
  33. mentor69
    mentor69 3 February 2014 10: 56
    +2
    Yes, Yanyk's spinelessness is already very annoying, especially against the background of a lost information presentation of events, when they try to make the guys from Berkut fascists, replacing the concept of "peaceful Protestants" and the whole people of Ukraine. These so-called opposition leaders themselves do not know what else to put forward from the demands, to impose "democratic" values ​​pindosii and europy. Power, by definition, should be able to defend itself, and not back down (a compromise with the maydan leaders). not much encouraging, and even more so it really is not directly related to the Kiev authorities. The East works, it is very inert, but if it comes to "raising" to the fight, then this is a real force and the situation will be - GET A Fascist Garnet.
  34. shitovmg
    shitovmg 3 February 2014 11: 29
    +2
    Putin needs to prepare surprises for Europe at the elections to the European Parliament! So to say, an asymmetric answer, after the Olympics. Hands will be untied, you can take Europe into circulation and help Ukrainians to help resolve the situation. Without Russia, they have come to a standstill ...
    1. pl675
      pl675 3 February 2014 21: 14
      +2
      Quote: shitovmg
      Putin needs to prepare surprises for Europe at the elections to the European Parliament! So to say, an asymmetric answer, after the Olympics. Hands will be untied, you can take Europe into circulation and help Ukrainians to help resolve the situation. Without Russia, they have come to a standstill ...


      Russians do not have brothers in (in) western Ukraine.
      by and large, even Ukrainians themselves cannot call themselves one nation.
      here the Ryazan with the Krasnoyarsk can, but the Zaporozhets with the Lviv no.
      so you understand zagogulin (s)
  35. sribnuu
    sribnuu 3 February 2014 11: 37
    .
    Judging from the article:
    1. Russia supports the regime of Yanukovych.
    2. If the Ukrainian loves his country, then he means Benderovets)
    3. If a person defends his rights (against corrupt courts, unpunished majors, sheer corruption), then people need to be driven into a stall.
    You know better dear Russians! winked
    1. Starshina wmf
      Starshina wmf 3 February 2014 12: 35
      +9
      Canadian Here Banderlogs will come to your house and hang you because you don’t speak mov. What will you do then? America help. You Canadians can only play hockey, that's all. And so look at your neighbor’s mouth and ... lick.
      1. 31231
        31231 3 February 2014 21: 56
        0
        They probably won't come to him. Canada has one of the world's largest Ukrainian diasporas. He probably even helps the Rogues with money in the fight against the "Gang".
    2. Starshina wmf
      Starshina wmf 3 February 2014 12: 35
      +2
      Canadian Here Banderlogs will come to your house and hang you because you don’t speak mov. What will you do then? America help. You Canadians can only play hockey, that's all. And so look at your neighbor’s mouth and ... lick.
    3. Slavapom
      Slavapom 3 February 2014 12: 37
      +7
      1. Russia supports the Legitimate power elected by the people, yes, not by all the people, but most of it.
      2. A Ukrainian who loves his country is exactly the same Ukrainian, and not a wild crowd smashing everything and everything, burning the Berkut fighters, who in my opinion are many times more patriots of Ukraine than the rampaging Maidan people.
      3. What is happening on the Maidan is not upholding rights, but at least a blatant violation of public law and order, for which Europe so beloved by all, has been dispersed for a long time, and the instigators have not been given such residential terms. We must defend our rights, but we must do it in a CIVILIZED manner, at least expressing our will in the elections.
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    5. bbss
      bbss 3 February 2014 12: 50
      +3
      Natsik is illiterate, and he is also going to Europe!
    6. aydrey1967
      aydrey1967 4 February 2014 02: 00
      0
      Corruption and corrupt courts cannot be defeated by the Maidan. The war has not yet benefited anyone, and it’s easy for you to be clever while sitting across the ocean. The enforcement of the laws of your country must be whatever these laws may be.
  36. Honorman
    Honorman 3 February 2014 11: 38
    .
    Guys, you are like little children, by God! What are the fascists? What are the people's vigilantes? What is the rise of the East? Come to your senses! What are Bendera people ?! Who gives you, foreign citizens, the right to write about events in another country? Do you live there, feel on yourself? It's like I'm going to write that the small mountain peoples have brought Russia to its knees! Will you deny this fact? But I am silent about it - because. I think it's wrong to poke around in your dirty laundry. I understand that this is the pain of thousands and millions and I do not know how it happens there, "who started it first" and all that.

    And you allow yourself to interfere in the affairs of an independent state. Think about it! The East will never rise - in the mass of thinking people, not lumpen, there is an understanding that the current government is hostile to the interests of the people. Judging Bandera is not your business; you have never been to Lviv or Western Ukraine! I can say that people there are many times better than in the East, where I was born and live, the standard of living there is much higher. This is not subsidized and depressive Lugansk. Donetsk And again - you see everything on your screens only what they show you!

    Request - first sort out the troubles of "great" Russia. Prove that you are a nation with a capital letter and then climb to others! Amen!
    1. Starshina wmf
      Starshina wmf 3 February 2014 12: 31
      +10
      Lugansk, Donetsk subsidized. And in Lviv and in the west of Ukraine, what do they produce? What is the state treasury replenished with?
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      2. 31231
        31231 3 February 2014 22: 06
        0
        There Svidomity so storytellers that they painted a bunch of pictures where Ukraine is fed Ivano-Kaklovsk, Lviv, Kiev. And Odessa, Krim and Donbass suck blood from these donors.
        These are uncomplicated and believe in these crazy pictures. With the help of insignificant media, they are forced to believe in such nonsense.
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    3. Gecko
      Gecko 3 February 2014 12: 33
      +13
      What we want is what we write on our Russian website, and note our politicians are not in Ukraine and they will not teach you how to live there and where to enter, unlike the Europeans and Americans who have often visited you.
      And they climbed onto the website of another state and write here moralizing to us you ...
    4. DMB-78
      DMB-78 3 February 2014 12: 48
      +6
      Quote: HonorMan
      And you allow yourself to interfere in the affairs of an independent state

      and Nuland, Saakashvili, McCain and others from the European Union speaking on the Maidan, this is not interference ??? who of the Russian politicians was in Ukraine, spoke there ???
    5. bbss
      bbss 3 February 2014 12: 53
      +3
      There is no such country. Wake up already.
    6. xan
      xan 3 February 2014 13: 03
      +7
      Quote: HonorMan
      And you allow yourself to interfere in the affairs of an independent state. Think about it!

      This is how we intervene, on the Maidan you hang out, or on the other hand?
      Quote: HonorMan
      Judging Bandera is not your business; you have never been to Lviv or Western Ukraine! I can say that people there are many times better than in the East, where I was born and live, the standard of living there is much higher.

      Listen, clown, people here are literate, they know how to collect and analyze information. "Beat Mosk.ley and Zh.idov" is not Bandera, it is not true.
      You mishandled propagandist, stupid fat troll
    7. Santor
      Santor 3 February 2014 13: 35
      +8
      Quote: HonorMan
      Guys, you are like small children, by God! What are the fascists? What are the people's warriors? What is the rise of the East? Come to your senses! What Bendera ?!


      That is, all this is not? All videos are montage? Right Arm Fighters - Video Editing? "Death to Jews and Pits" on Fences - a Photomontage? Have you ever thought while writing this post that many of us in Ukraine have roots and connections? And at this time we call up anxiously almost daily regardless of the tariffs? And here they tell stories? And not Bandera's portraits? http://vk.com/public62043361

      Quote: HonorMan
      The East will never rise - in the mass of thinking people, not lumpen, there is an understanding that the current government is hostile to the interests of the people. Judging Bandera is not your business; you have never been to Lviv or Western Ukraine!

      The East has already risen. They called from Odessa and said that they blocked almost all roads with cordons by putting concrete slabs and posts — the brother-in-law works as a crane operator. In Kharkov, units of the National are forming already in defiance of Lvov. Guard, Cossacks .. Sevastopol, Simferopol ... That is, in your opinion this is not?
      The current authorities are not even mentioned there, Yanukovych is a political corpse in any situation. Even the GDP does not morally support him, but the legitimacy of the Elected President of Ukraine. Because everything is clear with Yanukovych. People rise precisely against Bendery, Nazism, which is knocking on their doors .... And it seems to me that sending military units and groups to seize administrations in the eastern regions, raids of auto-riders on small towns in eastern Ukraine with beating passers-by (video from the DVRs is full on the network, play a joke) was specially conceived by external puppeteers to push the East towards activation, and thereby make the further stay of the East and West within one country impossible.

      I began my service in the border troops as a lieutenant in the town of Krakovets, Yavorivskyi district, Lviv region. I perfectly remember many locals what and how ... And about the standard of living is not necessary. And when you wrote about the self-sufficiency of the West and the subsidization of the industrial East, I didn’t even understand whether to be sad or laugh. Please explain which industry works in the West and which in the East. I looked at all the diagrams that have appeared recently on the websites of Ukraine, but they are all crafty .... For now there is practically not even one media that would not support, let us call it Maidan. These areas, even in Soviet times, were a headache for the authorities in terms of the economy ....
      1. shibi
        shibi 7 February 2014 12: 37
        0
        Please explain which industry works in the West
        gorilka, tsibula and fat.
    8. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 February 2014 14: 07
      +5
      Quote: HonorMan
      And you allow yourself to interfere in the affairs of an independent state.

      We do not intervene, we are discussing. The EU and the USA intervene, so write them to them.
      Quote: HonorMan
      Who gives you the right to write about events in another country to foreign citizens?

      Or we can shut up if we don’t like to read wali from a Saita. And then I see you have the right to dictate what and who to write in Russian Saite.
      Quote: HonorMan
      I can say that people there are many times better than to the East

      Yeah, noticeably, soon you will start yelling at Hitler Hitler.
    9. Anper
      Anper 3 February 2014 14: 18
      +9
      Quote: HonorMan
      Judging Bandera is not your business; you have never been to Lviv or Western Ukraine!

      Please talk about Bandera with me. I live in Western Ukraine, in Rivne, on Shukhevych Street, and I know Lviv like the back of my hand. Like Ivano-Frankivsk and Ternopol. Friends are all here, family. I hope you let me fiddle in your underwear, and you swear to Moscow @ li nehai tilki to marvel, your hats were fun. At the same time, specify your place of residence, and what if your countrymen?
    10. DMB-78
      DMB-78 3 February 2014 14: 22
      +3
      Quote: HonorMan
      Prove that you are a nation with a capital letter and then climb to the others! Amen!

      and show me the friend of at least one Russian guest worker in Ukraine.
      1. Vera
        Vera 5 February 2014 20: 23
        0
        Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
    11. DMB-78
      DMB-78 3 February 2014 15: 17
      +4
      Quote: HonorMan
      And you allow yourself to interfere in the affairs of an independent state. XNUMX

      you ceased to be independent after you began to dictate the terms of the EU and the State Department. your independence ended when you began to learn how to live on the Maidan, representatives of the EU and the State Department. you stopped being independent when you let them do it. and I already am silent about feeding hand cookies.
    12. ioann1
      ioann1 3 February 2014 19: 35
      +3
      HonorMan, (probably from the word arrogant boy!) "And you allow yourself to interfere in the affairs of an independent state." (c) Intervene, tell this nonsense to your dear Ashton and Nuland and McCain, who wiped their American feet on you on the Maidan. And you let them. For some idea ...
      Firstly, Ukraine is far from an independent state ... I think it is not necessary to prove. Secondly, Ukraine, for example, is my native country and everything that happens there concerns me personally: my family and friends live and suffer from your annoying friends from the EU and the USA for many years. I lived in Ukraine for a very long time and can compare what happened and what became! People like you are trying to create a front against all of Ukraine. And this also means that you are directing your subversive activities against Russia. Russia is really a great country. But this does not mean that she wants evil to Ukraine, because the Russian people do not want this. And you, too, must understand that Russia is far from Belgium or even Germany. Retribution will be severe. The whole heinous slander to Russia - there are sore fantasies of your ideologists of Nazism, as well as such odious types like Klitschko, Arsenyuk and other Bandera! You are not in the 40s and not even in the 70s. The atrocities of Bandera were known when the USSR was silent about this topic because of the vileness of Bandera crimes. Yes and now create chaos. What respect for your movements will be.
      Leave Ukraine alone before it's too late, otherwise you have the prospect of a second Nuremberg trials. Evil is punishable! The Lord allows a lot, but asks very strictly!
    13. 31231
      31231 3 February 2014 22: 03
      +2
      Request - first sort out the troubles of "great" Russia. Prove that you are a nation with a capital letter and then climb to others!

      What do I misunderstand ?! But where are Russians getting into Ukrainian affairs ?! Is this something, I somehow did not notice that Putin was distributing chebureks on Anti-Maidan? You had representatives of almost all the major NATO countries on Maidan, and you say that Russia is climbing to you. Wipe the eyes, Svidomo.
      And yet, yes, do not talk for the whole of Ukraine, its people have not authorized you to do so in any way.
    14. Victor-M
      Victor-M 4 February 2014 00: 01
      +1
      Quote: HonorMan
      I can say that people there are many times better than in the East, where I was born and live, the standard of living there is much higher.

      Yes, people may be good, but the "Banderlog" does not allow them to live, and the standard of living is very high, only crying about high prices for gas and oil, one fuel in Molotov cocktails was burned for a tidy sum. Well, the standard of living and culture of the Western population who came to Kiev just speaks about the burned, car tires, which have smoked the adjacent houses where ordinary people live, not Yanukovych, destroyed and dirty buildings and streets.
  37. Gray 43
    Gray 43 3 February 2014 12: 07
    +4
    It seems that those who do not want to work in Europe and for the sake of handouts they are ready to merge the independence of the whole country, the working regions will always have a different view of the situation from them, they would know and know a leader
  38. sribnuu
    sribnuu 3 February 2014 12: 25
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    Quote: Gray 43
    It seems that those who do not want to work in Europe and for the sake of handouts they are ready to merge the independence of the whole country, the working regions will always have a different view of the situation from them, they would know and know a leader


    I'll correct you a little) "those who do not want to work and those who want to work and earn money want to go to Europe) wink
    1. screw cutter
      screw cutter 3 February 2014 14: 44
      +17
      But what is it already impossible to earn at home? Only Europe is left? I’ll hasten to disappoint you, work hard at the seams in Europe, there are places to shove, to take out the ducks and you need a medical school, your diplomas don’t roll. And all the places are more or less warm already busy with Poles and Lithuanians, I declare to you as a European.
    2. shibi
      shibi 7 February 2014 12: 52
      0
      Do not tell my slippers! All of Europe is already populated by blacks, Arabs, Turks. Ukrainians are not working there.
      Therefore, Ukrainians expect in Europe to receive unemployment benefits.
    3. Lukich
      Lukich 8 February 2014 18: 39
      -1
      I'll correct you a little) "those who do not want to work and those who want to work and earn money want to go to Europe) wink


      ... very smart - "sribnuu", you will correct it in the Berlin latrine ... you don't need to correct ours ...
      1. shibi
        shibi 10 February 2014 04: 20
        0
        Your need to be treated ... in coal mines.
  39. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 3 February 2014 12: 39
    +4
    news. one of the banderlogs to England dumped. rats fleeing the dying warbler.
  40. bbss
    bbss 3 February 2014 12: 41
    +2
    Something long the Eastern Front has been forming. The Nazi assault squads are actually degenerating into troops, but in the East everyone is itching! Only underground workers in Kiev began to spoil the zapadents by burning private vehicles. Slam with such indifference!
  41. sribnuu
    sribnuu 3 February 2014 12: 47
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    Quote: Starshina wmf
    Canadian Here Banderlogs will come to your house and hang you because you don’t speak mov. What will you do then? America help. You Canadians can only play hockey, that's all. And so look at your neighbor’s mouth and ... lick.


    Otozh! I roam in movi, but for you, so roto in movi анд banderlog) I can in English, no question.
    Why do winners live worse than defeated? Are Amerikans and Banderlog guilty?
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    2. Anper
      Anper 3 February 2014 15: 31
      +3
      Quote: sribnuu
      American people

      Friend, write more beautifully than Ukrainian English, write more and more mine. rather than on mov.І nі at a certain time - rosіyskoyu, to beg for mercy; to your word Americans Vi pid_brali on pere_rku Amereka ?
      1. ioann1
        ioann1 3 February 2014 19: 45
        0
        Under Yushchenko, the stench came up with the new word helicopter - helicopter. State innovations.
        Ambassador Payette in an embroidered shirt flaunts as if he is the liberator of Ukraine from Russian influence, but in fact he deeply despises both Ukraine and its people. All 20 years, the Americans destroyed the consciousness of the Ukrainian people. This is especially felt now in the central part and in the west. And about the southeast and Crimea, they break off their teeth.
  42. DMB-78
    DMB-78 3 February 2014 12: 48
    +2
    US called the timing of the civil war in Ukraine! DOCUMENT + VIDEO
    http://iskra-news.info/news/ssha_nazvali_sroki_grazhdanskoj_vojny_na_ukraine_dok

    ument_video / 2014-02-02-7950
  43. fktrcfylhn61
    fktrcfylhn61 3 February 2014 13: 05
    +2
    Fortunately for you, the collapse of Russia could be stopped otherwise it was blazing on all sides; there are enough small and proud peoples in the federation.

    I would so categorically not promise! Everything has its time! And immediately it will become clear who is who! In Russia, so far, if only perverts are boiling, such as bulk and unbridled gamero-gayropeytsy!
    The patience of the Russian people has not yet reached a critical point, and the one who started a fire in Ukraine knows for sure. Everything has its time! But if Russia is the same price for responsible actions, then the price is worthless! So wait and see!
  44. Ross
    Ross 3 February 2014 13: 16
    +3
    Quote: smel
    Yanukovych did the opposite from the very beginning of the crisis. And today he is not able to restore order. The entire trinity of obvious and hundreds of 3-4 frank and arrogant Bandera has long been time to pull up or into the cell for years on 20-30. Close access to European and American agitators. Provocative media deprive licenses. Enter emergency mode. For 5 years, cancel all elections, etc. Well, if he continues to drool, then let him get ready to share the fate of the leaders whom the democratic Americans have destroyed in one way or another.

    Yanukovych is vulnerable! He is interested in power and saving his family, and therefore he is very vulnerable. The loyal Southeast hates him no less than zapadentsev. Because he is cowardly, there is no support. That’s why it’s yulit, which means only the people of the South-East of Ukraine, with the support of not only Putin, but the whole Russian people, can only defeat the Amer-Bandera project. What to do with bullied and aggressive Russophobian young animals?
  45. both s69
    both s69 3 February 2014 13: 26
    +2
    Quote: Starshina wmf
    State treasury replenished with what?

    How is this what? Dollars, sir, humanitarian dollars. laughing I apologize, so to speak, for familiarity.
  46. Santor
    Santor 3 February 2014 13: 35
    +6
    Quote: HonorMan
    Request - first sort out the troubles of "great" Russia. Prove that you are a nation with a capital letter and then climb to others! Amen!

    And we don’t have to prove anything to anyone. This is just proved by the fact that they climb just to us. We don’t climb to you by the way, the ties of kinship are so intertwined that many of the young generation who grew up in Coca-Cola and Hollywood do not understand this ....
    If you don’t see what they’re doing with you, it’s your misfortune. But then we see what our closest neighbor is turning into.

    Goebbels' dream was, as he wrote in his diary, "to sow such a seed of discord between the Slavic peoples that for the Ukrainian the most hated enemy would be the Russian, and then we can assume that the problem of the Slavic world will be solved for us. When these two great and mighty peoples come together in mortal combat, our business will be to help the Ukrainians destroy the Russians first of all in themselves, and when they destroy themselves, we will eliminate what remains, the rest will be driven beyond the Ural Mountains, where they may continue their deadly squabble, and we will inhabit these fertile lands with Germanic and Aryan peoples "

    Now tell me what I'm wrong about.
  47. Buivol
    Buivol 3 February 2014 13: 35
    +5
    There is such a concept in psychology as the "victim-pursuer-defender triangle". The most advantageous position in this triangle is with the "victim". The position of a "persecutor", even if he is three times right, is unenviable. All color revolutions are built on this principle. Making the pogromists "victims" is one of the principal tasks of political strategists. To disperse the maydanuts means to make them "victims", that is, to help Western political strategists solve a fundamental problem. Indecision, Yanukovych's compliance, highlights the aggressive nature of the Maydanuts, forcing them to take the position of "aggressor". This means that everyone else, even politically neutral ones, will now take the position of a "defender" and will defend the "victim" - the government, from the "aggressor" - the Maidan. The most important thing in this situation is to understand that the "defender" will in any case defend the "victim" is the law of psychology, and it does not matter who the "victim" is, the government or the Maidan. Moreover, the roles in the victim-pursuer-defender triangle change very easily. Now Yanuovych is replaying the Maidan, the authorities are quite firmly holding the position of "victim". If the State Department does not find an opportunity to arrange a provocation, does not make a convincing "sacred sacrifice", the Maidan will fizzle out, or finally consolidate the role of the "aggressor" and then the Ukrainians themselves will disperse the Maidan, even the Berkut will not be needed.
    PS Why "maydanutye" ........ Napoleon Bonaparte, a participant in the Great French Revolution, once said - "Revolutions are conceived by romantics, exercise fools, and adventurers use their result.
  48. Victor Kamenev
    3 February 2014 13: 39
    +6
    In principle, without signing the colonial treaty with Europe, Yanukovych has already put an end to the plans of Washington. What prompted him to do so is an interesting question, but for that much will be forgiven. Of course, much more will happen, but Washington is far away, and Russia is near. Not yet evening...
    And the slogan of the day for the East of Ukraine is the requirement to ban neo-Nazi parties and movements in Ukraine, if they remain legal, to ban them in the East, and all who support them. Amen!
  49. ajkapojka
    ajkapojka 3 February 2014 13: 58
    +2
    A competent pre-election campaign is needed! On the wave of anti-fascism, the East will win! We need a new man at the helm in Ukraine! Yanyk is "caked"! Tsarev would come up!
    1. TOR70
      TOR70 3 February 2014 22: 28
      0
      the prince is subject to both money and thieves, this is who your king is.
  50. Avas2006
    Avas2006 3 February 2014 14: 28
    +3
    Quote: lukke
    I think Vitya is a tramp in comparison with his puppeteers - the oligarchy from the east. But they think: capital in the West, resources in the East. If the Natsiks come, there will be a redistribution of what they own on the territory of Ukraine - that's the problem - what is "more profitable" to lose. How will it be determined - there will be either a tough scenario of putting things in order or a bidding with a partial drain and an unknown own unenviable fate

    The oligarchs are the barefoot themselves. They will replay themselves. Ukrainian drama - historical rake. The oligarchs in power have always led their country to decline. Can we outgrow this disease ourselves or will some doctors help us?