Better to see once than hear a hundred times

This is probably my shortest note. However, after it there will be a lot of questions. The video, which is located below, can be interpreted in different ways. Someone will say that this is a conflict between two political trends ("for" Yanukovych and "against"), and I, for example, see completely different things. There is one political protest movement representing Bandera’s ideology and the ideals of Europe, which, unfortunately, has saddled social protest. I have often been written in comments that I am exaggerating the problem of the disappearance of the Russian ethnos in south-eastern Ukraine. Guys, I'm happy in the square, if I am mistaken !!

When I began to notice more than a year ago that in the city of Berdyansk (Zaporozhye region), which was founded by the Russians on the orders of Count M. Vorontsov in 1827, Russian-speaking russophobes dominate the Internet space, I startled. I consoled myself with the thought that, since the city had lost almost all industry in 90 and had taken up the resort direction, easy money contributed to the growth of liberal hamsters. Anyway, the weather is made by the neighboring half-million proletarian Mariupol. But, much to my chagrin, the de-russification of the consciousness of Russian-speaking Ukrainians and Russians also touched large cities, first of all the local environment of students, high school and football movements in Eastern Ukraine.

Here is a video that makes you shiver. Many Russians, who see this video on YouTube, at first think that the brave Russian-speaking guys are kicking Bandera. But it's not like that at all ...

Young people who belong to the Dnipropetrovsk football movement "Ultras" (FC Dnipro) beat "aunts" in the evening - young guys who stood for someone in support of Yanukovych, and according to others - in support of the state system. From the RSA. Before that, in the afternoon, they successfully beat off the “Euro-Banderians” RSA with the police, and Dnepropetrovsk did not fall, but some people wanted a rematch.

As you understand, events take place in the Russian-speaking city of Dnipropetrovsk, where they make rockets and other high-tech products. On video everywhere Russian speech. Russian beat Russian (if you look through the eyes of a foreigner who knows Russian). One would like to say to the Russian-speaking Ukrainians and Russians who swore Bandera and Europe in the football stadiums of Ukraine: go to the Ukrainian language! Observe the front line! Integration must be through. Do not disgrace the real Russian people. We are not Egypt or Tunisia to beat each other with sticks. We first flew into space! (There are no rockets in Galicia.) The critics will tell me that this is still a political conflict, and not an ideological one. But forgive me, Yanukovych is also damn disgusting to me, so now I can be shoulder to shoulder with a Bandera ?! Moreover, the protest officially goes under the sauce: "Ukraine is Europe." The European choice also saddled social protest, as we see. Yanukovych thus turned out to be a Trojan horse for the Russian world.

Comments

[Ivan Tarasov]

Yanukovych thus turned out to be a Trojan horse for the Russian world.

Not Yanukovych, but Andropov.
It was his idea to fit the USSR into Western civilization.

[jjj]

In Ukraine, heavy snow fell. In the eastern regions, troops were withdrawn from the barracks for clearing. Derived from parks and armored vehicles. There were stories on TV. Very timely snow turned out. Now it is clear what kind of interference in the affairs of Ukraine they speak in the West. General frost he is so

[Polovec]

The biggest problem today is that in Ukraine there is no leader who could be supported. moreover, on one side. Russia's mistake is that it did not form and did not propose such a leader. Yanukovych is not an option (and has never been an option). In general, his getting into the chair of the president is a mystery! I won’t believe that Ukraine does not have its own Old Man Lukashenko! A man capable of living for the sake of the people!
As for modern youth ... Our situation is no better. A class of lumpen is growing. They do not shine in the future and they know that no one needs. The desire to belong to at least some kind of society knocks them into gangs.
The only way out is youth employment. It must be remembered that we are a self-sufficient country and the main thing in it should be the prosperity of the people, and not the stock indices of oligarchic structures and enterprises.

[31231]

I won’t believe that Ukraine does not have its own Old Man Lukashenko! A person capable of living for the sake of the people!

Yes there is most likely. But who will let him rise? As soon as he goes to the president, the media of competitors will start pouring and slandering at him. As a result, the raguli will choose the next Yaytsenyukha-Yushchenko.
And then they will bliss that there are no feelings and permogues, because Russians sell gas expensively.

[c3r]

Russia has formed a leader for itself only 14 years ago, and the fruits of leadership only recently began to appear 2-3 years ago. About the lumpen class, about the poor, useless unemployed youth is not true. Those who want to work will be there. There are a lot of construction projects in Russia, thank God, but because there you have to carry stones, it's easier to sit down a piece of paper, and then after 17:00 go and leave the stones to the police for "freedom". They do not need themselves and do not strive for anything. Mom and Dad raised me so badly.

[Vittt]

It’s not necessary to write any crap about frost. It is better to get information about the combat readiness of motorized rifle, landing and tank units in Ukraine and their ability to protect their country from foreigners and Judas from the inside! And finally, act! Yanyk, you stupid stupid person.

[Nicotin13]

And what is the Ukrainian army today and how will it fight the population (Bandera, fascists, etc.)?

[predator.3]

Quote: Ivan Tarasov

Not Yanukovych, but Andropov.
It was his idea to fit the USSR into Western civilization.

You also remember Daniil Galitsky! Andropov spent a week without a year in power, or rather lay in a hospital bed, the more so in the 83rd year.

[AVV]

Quote: predator.3

Not Yanukovych, but Andropov.
It was his idea to fit the USSR into Western civilization.

It was the idea of ​​the United States in the first place, to enter, destroy, impose, its ideology, its demogomotseny, disintegrate into small pieces, it is very simple to manage small parts !!!

[DMB-78]

Quote: predator.3

Quote: Ivan Tarasov

Not Yanukovych, but Andropov.
It was his idea to fit the USSR into Western civilization.

You also remember Daniil Galitsky! Andropov spent a week without a year in power, or rather lay in a hospital bed, the more so in the 83rd year.

and Khrushchev who gave Crimea to Ukraine

[Setrac]

Quote: DMB-78

and Khrushchev who gave Crimea to Ukraine

This is not his worst crime.

[Polovec]

Khrushchev can be criticized for a lot, but it is worth remembering what you need to thank! And this is not enough! He was a courageous Soviet man! He screwed up only with the army and the navy, betting only on the Strategic Missile Forces. But if you remember that he raised the country without a single ruble of borrowing and stretching the "trishka caftan" of the then budget was a nightmarish daily reality for him, then not many would like to be in his place. And he removed the missiles from Turkey. All are shyly silent about this ...

[11111mail.ru]

Quote: Polovec

Khrushchev can be criticized for a lot, but it’s worth remembering what you need to thank!

What gratitude deserves "corn yap"?

[Polovec]

Regarding corn ... The decision was made amid food shortages. Corn is more resistant to natural disasters and its yield is higher than grain. When the question was how to feed the country, this decision was understandable. America, for example, has been using cornmeal for a long time and successfully. And not only America. The fact that there was a sabotage of the decision made and a PR failure before the removal of the Secretary General has been recognized for a long time. And what would be the press of those days when the first person of the state was excommunicated? Do not praises to sing in fact ... No need to be a zombie. Think for yourself!

[11111mail.ru]

Agricultural culture and N.S.Kh. want to consider? If corn, then you have to go to some agricultural site, with estimates of the amount of fertilizer applied per hectare, depending on the method of sowing. If on bald corn, you can talk about the degree of baldness and the effect of baldness on the degree of hatred of Comrade. I.V. Stalin, Comrade G.M. Malenkov and other comrades.

[c3r]

Ivan the Terrible, Peter 1, Alexander 1, Stalin, Putin, by the way, they also lifted the country without borrowing, each at one time, but at the same time did not distribute the country, and annexed new territories. I agree that at that time no one thought about the collapse of the USSR, but what prevented the preservation of the main states of the union. And the usual greed of power interfered. These h (M) attacks were received and quickly divided. And by the way, Russia itself was only just beginning to get rid of this nightmare.

[Polovec]

And to whom did Khrushchev give the territory? For that matter, Lenin put a mine under the state when they divided the country into titular nations. Before Lenin, the Empire was divided into provinces. And, by the way, to the north of Kazakhstan, the regions were not cut by Khrushchev. In the same way, Khrushchev did not transfer the territories to the Baltic states and Belarus. Khrushchev was displaced and all his actions were subjected to abstraction.
I am not Khrushchev’s lawyer, and I have claims against him, possibly no less than yours. I just want to say that he was not dumber and not smarter than his followers. And for me, any Soviet leader is better than modern ones, if only because he did not produce thieves and did everything he could (to the best of his ability and understanding of the situation) for the good of the country. In their actions there was no desire to cash in on the people. The only exception is Judah - Gorbachev (when will he die).

[demon184]

Yanukovych is Gorbachev

[homosum20]

Only for us is even worse. The stakes are higher. The second mistake.

[alone]

Quote: demon184

Yanukovych is Gorbachev

Do you all remember how much effort was spent on PR Yanukovych in Russia? All the ruling elite of Russia relied on Yanukovych, helping him in every possible way. Yanukovych became president. And this is what his years of rule led to. Dnipropetrovsk beat anti-Maidan supporters. 10 years ago you all here, including myself, could you imagine such a thing? I do not. It turns out supporting Yanukovych Russia supported Gorbachev and his policy.

This is a political miscalculation. And this miscalculation is on the conscience of those who determined the policy of Russia towards Ukraine. As the saying goes, "what you sow is what you reap."

[catapractic]

it’s too small for a HUMPSTER to be Judas on a grand scale, and this thieving clown who cannot sit on 2 chairs, but I really want to

[skifd]

Quote: demon184

Yanukovych is Gorbachev

Well, what are you ... None "homo-type! -Politicus" is getting smaller, "Herr Gorby" SOYUZ pro ... ral, and now the West has been treated kindly to the psi, and Yanukovych is more the degree of adventure on my own .. I wondered. True, it is also destroying the country by its actions. Thank God that "THREE MONSTERS" is just a caricature of another trinity - Yeltsin, Shushkevich, Kravchuk, damn them, stsuki .. Well, "Bendera", "Bender", to drive them back to the same place from where they climbed out. Better to dig in and level the place.

[homosum20]

And what did he think when he held this post? Or didn’t know something about his health?
Power is a tax, in Russian. Not a sinecure.

[Power]

"What was he thinking when he was in office?" About the loot and the power that will help keep this loot and increase it. There is nothing more that this audience is incapable of thinking - ciliates.

[Ivan Tarasov]

Well, why did Danilo Galitsky ...
Suffice it to recall the director of the Institute for Systems Research - Germain Gvishiani.
And at the same time those people who worked at this institute ...

[11111mail.ru]

Quote: predator.3

You also remember Daniil Galitsky!

Well, he was such, "crowned" by Pope Innocent IV. Joined the ranks ...

[FC SKIF]

Using the example of anti-Russia, which has matured in Maloros, we can conclude that the humanitarian component in the development and upbringing of the younger generation is very important. Roughly speaking, you can teach a tractor to drive, but only thanks to an internal understanding of what is good and what is bad, he decides where to go on it - to plow a field or to crush peers - Berkut. And so: qualitatively Russian zombies in Ukraine, it will take a long time to treat them. The main thing is that it is not inherited. It is sad that those in power neither in Ukraine nor in Russia pay any attention to this problem. Respect to the author, he beats the bells alone, indicating a problem.

[Garrin]

Quote: FC Skif

And so: qualitatively Russian zombies in Ukraine, it will take a long time to treat them. The main thing is that it is not inherited. It is sad that those in power neither in Ukraine nor in Russia pay any attention to this problem.

Why not pay? In Ukraine, they even paid very much, since 91, a national policy has been pursued with a clearly expressed anti-Russian orientation. Moreover, this policy was pursued by all presidents without exception (especially, of course, Yushchenko tried). Now a new generation has grown, as a result - we have what we have.

[FC SKIF]

Here comes real integration, reunion in some form. And what do we do with these ultras? This is in the modern world, as a rule, the most active and passionate part of youth. It turns out that this charge has a negative charge in relation to Russia. I repeat, now the main thing is that this Russian Russophobia does not inherit.

[Tersky]

Quote: FC Skif

And what do we do with these ultras? This is in the modern world, as a rule, the most active and passionate part of youth.

There is still a small part of sane substance in their brains: Dnepropetrovsk has always been considered the "golden card" of the Ukrainian choice. Capturing the "city of the general secretaries" means breaking the central vertebra of the southeast. Five of the most powerful and combat-ready hundreds of the “Right Sector” were thrown here from Kiev. Well-equipped, furious, battle-hardened. Dnepropetrovsk ultras from the football club of the oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, who has been financing Freedom for several years, promised to support the Maidan fighters.
Such a force would be guaranteed to break the defense of the Dnipropetrovsk regional administration. But an unprecedented thing happened. Ultras really went in the same column with the militant zapadentsev. Together marched along the central avenue. However, on the approach to the goal they were literally taken aback from the manic hatred for “m-la” that was emitted by the “Right Sector”.
Local fans decided that with such a Bandera gang they were not on their way - and turned away. The Nazis attacked themselves. Only forces were now on the side of local authorities.
- In fact, you saved the regime of Yanukovych? - I ask the Dnipropetrovsk Irina, the activist of defense.
- Yes, understand, now nobody remembers him! Yanukovych pissed off the capital, and we stand for our hometown! Really - the enemy at the gate. Do not let it go. They want war - they will get it! .. - replies a young woman with two injured pistols in Franco Cesare's purse. Read full here Free press. Yanukovych dilemma: to fight or betray

[Fox]

Quote: FC Skif

And what do we do with these ultras

but as usual, they stick or stick together after serving time. You don’t need to do anything with them. Do not give the opportunity to become heroes and ... that's all.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Fox

.Do not give the opportunity to become heroes and ... that's all.

These are the heroes of one day, there is no sense in their actions, a simple brawl on a national scale.

[FC SKIF]

In the Yugoslav confrontation between Serbs and Croats, former football ultras played an important role. The leaders of the fans became the leaders of the undeclared thieves form, and the chants of the fans were used before the fight to lift the spirit. Thinking that ultras should be reckoned with.

[Anper]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

These are the heroes of one day

In addition, united by ALIEN TRAINED ARRIVERS. In Rovno, this was the case when the administration was seized - those who gathered and led the crowd to seize did not know the street names and were poorly oriented in the city. But they rented an office with computers and had transport.
There was no resistance in the administration - they broke the glass for the show-off. If they did, especially with the civilian population together - it would be the same in the evening as on video. The crowd would be raised again and the Ukrainian would beat the Ukrainian. Moreover, there are rumors that for such an action as a seizure to the organizers - $ 2000 each one-time, as a bonus, in addition to, so to speak, a salary. There’s not only a crowd - you will raise the dead, it’s not for nothing that they were so amused and, without hiding, they thrashed their tongues.

[afdjhbn67]

recognize one you have hope for Russia

[a52333]

And what do we do with these ultras?

Fell the forest, someone needs to sew mittens. DneproGES or Volgodon to start a new venture. There are tons of options.

[Ustas]

Quote: FC Skif

Here comes real integration, reunion in some form. And what do we do with these ultras?

Re-educate.

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: FC Skiff

Here comes real integration, reunion in some form. And what do we do with these ultras? This is in the modern world, as a rule, the most active and passionate part of youth. It turns out that this charge has a negative charge in relation to Russia. I repeat, now the main thing is that this Russian Russophobia does not inherit.

If you wish, these ultras can be strangled like kittens ... Borrow Putin? Or Lukashenko? This has no obligations whatsoever to anyone. They’ll take them out into a clean field, give them a shovel, and yeah ...

[lelikas]

Quote: Semyon Semyonich

If you wish, these ultras can be strangled like kittens ... Borrow Putin? Or Lukashenko? This has no obligation whatsoever to anyone. They’ll take them out into a clean field, give them a shovel, and yeah ..

It depends on how many of them gather,
Who does not remember - June 2002 -

[homosum20]

Before that, they either cut out our people (and there will be no one to unite with), or they will kill the ulras (and the question will disappear).

[Garrin]

Quote: FC Skif

Here comes real integration, reunion in some form. And what do we do with these ultras?

I am afraid that the entire "real" integration will stall due to the "squeezing" of business from the "Ukrainian oligarchs" by the "Russian oligarchs." Unfortunately, we no longer count. (((.

[Denis]

Quote: Garrin

Now a new generation has grown, as a result - we have what we have.

[Val_y]

There is, I do not argue, but nevertheless there are strong historical roots in the southeast, so that not all are lost (Sevastopol, Odessa, Lugansk, Khorkov, Donetsk) there were maydaunas, but sluggishly, storms of the ODA, even Thank God and not undertook (lacked public support). In Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, ODA was recaptured, and about the ultras, so in my opinion, these actions were exclusively for grannies (such as for financial assistance to these fan clubs), well, to fight with the police, also amateurs, even without any purpose .

[homosum20]

Yes, not the presidents. State Department, who appointed them.

[ele1285]

Quote: FC Skiff

Respect to the author, he beats the bells alone, indicating a problem.

Interestingly, but our minds in the government are not aware of this? Or do they just remember gas and loot? They don’t have any resources to influence Ukraine. But there’s silence, they’ll just show which Maidan is bad on the box. They don’t cut the loot, the geyropeyts are not shy, they haven’t written the law. In my opinion, this is primarily the fault of our government.

[Ustas]

Quote: FC Skif

And so: qualitatively Russian zombies in Ukraine, it will take a long time to treat them.

Over time, and they will realize that they took the wrong side. It will only be too late.
How much can you step on the same rake.

[bomg.77]

It is necessary to reject the west of Ukraine, Russophobic virus about them, everything penetrates deeper into the east. Amputation will save the body.

[FC SKIF]

Not anymore: metastases penetrated too deep into the body of Russia. Youth, as always, is active, always rebelling. Question: why is it rebelling against Russia. Let's answer this question. The answer, it seems to me, is that for 20 with more than a year of brainwashing in Ukraine, a new type of man, homo Ukrainius, has grown, something like a rollback to the Neonderts. A 2 related biologist. species are always doomed to fierce confrontation.

[bomg.77]

Quote: FC Skif

Not anymore: metastases penetrated too deep into the body of Russia.

They were always there just as the USSR collapsed, bloomed in lush color. The first thing we did was deal with the History of Ukraine, which we all laughed at, and it yielded the fruits that we are now reaping! It’s necessary to reject it! Well, oil and water do not mix, neither the USSR could do this, neither Russia can, nor even Ukraine.

[FC SKIF]

in Lviv, according to Yandex 70 data,% of requests were made in Russian, i.e. these are the same Russian, only zombie. Now, if the western rebellious regions were put on hungry rations, for a couple of years to give them real, first of all, I mean, economic independence, then they would instantly sober up in their Russophobia. in the west no one will feed them like that.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: FC Skif

Now, if 3 western rebellious areas were put on a hungry ration

They have already imprisoned themselves - in Kiev, the government is semi-paralyzed, there are no local authorities with the right to sign documents. The second phase of administrative chaos begins - the stoppage of payments and transfers of all kinds within the country. We remember "war communism" ... You cannot replace salaries and pensions with slogans alone, you cannot buy fuel for public transport. The system of water pipelines, heating pipelines (winter outside), electricity and gas supply through gas pipelines is also approaching a critical moment.
And in Hungary, the so-called opposition (EuroNews reports) decided to replace the government with the people, "blowing into the ears of the democratically inclined Hungarians" the idea that the issue of a loan from Russia for the construction of two nuclear power plants should be "transparent" and approved by consumers. And this is in a country where 40% of electricity is produced by the Hungarian nuclear power plant, built during the years of the USSR, and where, 10 years ago, deciding to spit on technology, they wanted to replace Russian-made TVELs with American ones from Westinghouse "in spite" of Russia. Chernobyl did not happen. But the Russian specialists summoned to Hungary "urgently" had to try to return the "experimental" power unit to working condition and return the Russian TVELs, respectively.
This is what political decisions in the world of high nuclear technologies lead to ...

[31231]

In fact, we have the same frostbitten ultrasounds. Natsik, of course, is more modest, thanks to the supervision of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB.
The cure for youth, military service. They are all the heroes in the herd. And individually, in parts, they are none.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: 31231

The cure for youth, military service.

This is a herd to send to the army ??? In the case of a shecher, they will not hesitate to shoot their commanders.

[31231]

What a fool, Alexander ?! What do we Dagi and other Caucasians less radical ?! They will come to the company, there grandfathers will bring up. And if something is misunderstood and begins to be bullied, the stool is always at hand.

[Old scoop]

Play on something else. They find the dissatisfied and rock the boat.

[Denis]

people who belong to the Dnepropetrovsk football movement

Is there really any political motive? Banderlogs will be like fans of Zenit, Spartak or CSKA. Hunting to shout and reign, and even if it’s kind of an idea, it’s gorgeous. They’ll throw any idea and they’ll tear up her throat

[Old_kapitan]

Is there really any political motive? Banderlogs will be like fans of Zenit, Spartak or CSKA. Hunting to shout and reign, and even if it’s kind of an idea, it’s gorgeous. They’ll throw any idea and they’ll tear up her throat

And if they also pay for it!

[brownie]

Is there really any political motive? Banderlogs will be like fans of Zenit, Spartak or CSKA. Hunting to shout and reign, and even if it’s kind of an idea, it’s gorgeous. They’ll throw any idea and they’ll tear up her throat
And if they also pay for it!

Here's a conclusion that suggests itself - you need to cut cash flows. And laws on foreign agents were canceled.

[FC SKIF]

Quote: Denis

They will throw any idea to them and they will be happy to tear up her throat

And you try to throw them something positive, pro-Russian, then you can talk.

[Denis]

Quote: FC Skif

try to throw something positive, pro-Russian

It’s not for me to charge, not for me. There are specialists. The misguided ideas of that side are also not invented in the kitchen for a beer. Some vampires tried

[FC SKIF]

Quote: Denis

It’s not for me to charge, not for me. There are specialists. The misguided ideas of that side are also not invented in the kitchen for a beer. Some vampires tried

Not having decided and not having a solution to this problem even in theory, one should not climb to Ukraine in principle. If we clean it up anyway, then the problem of rabid Russophobia will not go anywhere from us.

[Denis]

Quote: FC Skif

do not climb to Ukraine in principle

At the address, is it said?
It is necessary for gay and other activists from the EU to say
Ukraine has already made its choice more than 20 years ago, let them decide for themselves. It’s just a pity if you deceive yourself again

[FC SKIF]

Ai-ya-yay. Take out of context

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: FC Skif

Not having decided and not having a solution to this problem even in theory, one should not climb to Ukraine in principle. If we clean it up anyway, then the problem of rabid Russophobia will not go anywhere from us.

The problem of Russophobia is part of the problem of pseudo-Ukrainian ideology, which started with the publication by the second president of the nationalist agitation, which became the basis of the official ideology. Yushchenko, according to Kuchma's "behest", legalized the ideas and heroes of UNA-UNSO, Bandera and Co. Yanukovych stubbornly pretended that nothing terrible was happening, did not crush mass demonstrations of Banderlog in the bud. Provocations to celebrate Victory Day in Zapadenschina turned into open bandit sorties. And the paid media inflated in the information space of Ukraine hysteria about the corruption of the authorities, its lawlessness, i.e. provided information support. And here's the result.

[siberalt]

Titles against football fans. Sorry for the youth. The situation is extremely hot. Russian guys are fighting for some reason. This is a direct connivance of the supreme authority. They need their people only for a democratic procedure - voting. Ukraine itself has built an ideological cordon with Russia, now it is reaping the benefits.

[Old_kapitan]

Russian guys are fighting for some reason.

Why is it not clear? Denis wrote a little higher why. I also added. Have you seen the face of a banderlog or ultras disfigured by intelligence? Me not. So what else to expect from them?

[31231]

Yes, there is a lot and do not. One by one he pulled out of the apartments and into the army.

[demotivator]

Russians beat Russians (if you look through the eyes of a foreigner who knows Russian).

Yeah. With such "Russians" we don't even need Caucasians, we will grind ourselves.

[Aleksys2]

What does this remind me of:
Pogroms in Lviv in 1941 year

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Aleksys2

Pogroms in Lviv in 1941 year

By the way, these pogroms were stopped by the Germans who entered the city, that's where the paradox Even the Führer’s soldiers got rid of civilized Lviv citizens.

[123dv]

And there’s no paradox. Everything is simple here, like a cucumber.
The authorities always strive to legitimize their status.
Even black can easily be passed off as white, against a background even more black.
First you are poisoned by a mad dog, and then the leash is pulled up, and you think that the kingdom of justice has finally come.

[EvilLion]

Some battalion commander from the Wehrmacht still needs to be brought to bestiality, and so often it was, the attitude to the local population was determined by the division commander. And if there were still soldiers among the Germans, then among all OUN members there were only pigs.

[11111mail.ru]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

К stat these pogroms

It is written like this: "K stats, .... "

[Walk]

"By the way" is written together.

[terrible]

meter cruel death to geeks! they must not be beaten, they must be killed! the filthy heirs of Vlasov. traitors to their people.

[FC SKIF]

Painfully you are formidable. I would look at you if you were brought up from kindergarten in an atmosphere of fierce Russophobia. I was hooked on it too, I know what I'm talking about. You can read my article on the same resource "History of Ukraine through the eyes of a Russian schoolchild. Memories."

[makarov]

Whom to kill then? And who do you think are "geeks"?
I myself am from the Dnipropetrovsk region, and so, I will say this, the events that occurred in the Dnieper are nothing more than a confrontation between two oligarchic clans to the guise of Maidan trends. This is the Vilkul clan controlled by Akhmetov, and the Kolomoisky clan (I suppose Kuchma and Pinchuk’s son-in-law). Vilkul created a complete empire in Krivoy Rog, his father rules the city. The youngest Vilkul himself, is the chairman of the regional PR. At the end of last year, there was a huge scandal when an attempt was made to steal real estate in the Dnieper for 4 billion. All arrows pointed to Vilkula. The attempt failed, and now revenge has been taken.
And you say "kill the geeks!"

[Semurg]

Quote: makarov

Whom to kill then? And who do you think are "geeks"?
I myself am from the Dnipropetrovsk region, and so, I will say this, the events that occurred in the Dnieper are nothing more than a confrontation between two oligarchic clans to the guise of Maidan trends. This is the Vilkul clan controlled by Akhmetov, and the Kolomoisky clan (I suppose Kuchma and Pinchuk’s son-in-law). Vilkul created a complete empire in Krivoy Rog, his father rules the city. The youngest Vilkul himself, is the chairman of the regional PR. At the end of last year, there was a huge scandal when an attempt was made to steal real estate in the Dnieper for 4 billion. All arrows pointed to Vilkula. The attempt failed, and now revenge has been taken.
And you say "kill the geeks!"

An interesting interpretation of events, as usual, if you delve deeply into any boom, specific financial interests will come out (as they say to whom the war and to whom the mother is native)

[saxa2103]

so he answered, rjuj

[Muadipus]

Whom to kill then?

Stick swung - attempt on life - shoot to kill.
He took the bottle from the HS - shoot to kill.

Diluted fagot fagot. there is a law, please be kind. You never know who I see ... but there is a law. and God wouldn’t be afraid.

And who do you think are "geeks"?

Ozhegova:
...
trans. A man with low, animal instincts, a geek (simple. Contempt.).

[ia-ai00]

bomg. 77 RU
It is necessary to reject the west of Ukraine, Russophobic virus about them, everything penetrates deeper into the east. Amputation will save the body.

I completely agree with you. This Western Bandera tribe, like a cancerous tumor, can destroy the entire "organism", as you can see there are already a lot of them in the south of Ukraine, and they seem to hate Russians and Russia fiercely. This hatred has been brewing in them since the Second World War, and it is better to lose part of Ukraine than to have enemies of Ukraine itself inside the country, no matter how regrettable it is.

[cat 1970]

Weak power is an excuse for shit to have fun, and if grandmothers pay and drink vodka, then they don’t give a damn about whom and against whom they speak Russian, but the creatures are without nationality, they will sell themselves to those who pay and pour more. Cowardly creatures, only when 10 on one, if the police crushed the nits as expected, they would sit like cockroaches behind the stove. In Chechnya In 1995, to the border with Dagestan was only 16 km in the Vedeno district, the whole rabble was on this narrow patch. Weak power stopped the army and special police units, the result is obvious .... Also now with Bandera faces, they respect only power, they will not listen to any exhortations.

[ia-ai00]

Something I doubt that Yanuk wants to restore order in the country, since he, as an outside observer, brought the country to such a confrontation and pogroms.
If earlier it seemed that he wanted to sit on two chairs, now it seems that an "electric" chair is waiting for him, but he does not know about it yet. It seems to me that now, at least to which of the opposing sides he does not "join", he cannot bear his head (in the sense that he is in power, in any case, he cannot resist).

[Evgen77]

People be smarter. Do not be "rams leading to slaughter."

[borisjdin1957]

from the Don.
The most effective doctor for many diseases of society is LABOR! The right to work, to earn dignity, all this is deprived of most of the youth. Without labor, a person turns into a monkey!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: borisjdin1957

, worthy of earning, all of this is deprived of most of the youth

But there is one big BUT, ask the youth what they want, what kind of work, goal? The answers can be described something like this, I WANT EVERYTHING AND IMMEDIATELY!

[borisjdin1957]

from the Don.
And here it all depends on the education in the family!

[dropout]

Quote: borisjdin1957

And here it all depends on the education in the family!

But here I cannot agree. Unfortunately, not everything. State machine in the person of a kindergarten, school, SMRAD, various "patriotic" -cossacks, scouts, etc. organizations that grow Hitler youth efficiently and quickly.
There is still much to be said .... but I think that it is sober-minded and everything is clear. One must firmly remember that neither what nor where, nor when it happens by itself!

[Alex Nick]

Sanya, hi. That they need in Japan then. They give EVERYTHING AND IMMEDIATELY !. But you will work out your whole life in one place. Only the Japanese do not let strangers.

[calocha]

All these ultras, left, right, middle, oblique, are fed from the same Western hands! These young fragile minds need money and give it to them ..

[morpogr]

Divide and conquer. Now this principle is fully applied in Ukraine. The question is only who will benefit from this oligarchs are unlikely at the first opportunity they’ll let the first go to the expense of Natsik already beat each other deciding who is in charge, and ordinary people will always be a loser if the country doesn’t it’s working and is busy with revolution. The Americans will win and they will fit in with any sauce, whether peacekeepers, financial assistance, but on a Western basis or a specific figure that they will push into power, which will be a puppet and will fulfill the orders of the host c. This is sad, wake up already. Ukrainians look soberly to anyone. ALL of this is clearly beneficial not to you and your country.

[Valrad]

We see youth brutalized from permissiveness. They have little understanding of any ideas, but rowdy and street fight ... for some, this is their finest hour. There is simply no power in the streets. So they walk, and on surely a beer or aliens ...

[chisya]

Read the comments on that video. Love for Russia is definitely not there. And the people support the actions of these ultras. There is no support for the southeast, which is often written about here.

[Egoza]

Quote: chisya

There is no support for the southeast, which is often written about here.

Here it is not necessary!
“In Dnepropetrovsk, an indefinite rally in support of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych“ Let's Save Ukraine ”resumed. The rally was attended by about 10 thousand residents of the Dnepropetrovsk region, who spoke out against violence and extremism and supported a peaceful settlement of the current situation in Ukraine.
“Over the past week, we have received tens of thousands of letters from our fellow countrymen, in which they express support for the authorities' actions to maintain stability and order in the region. Residents of the region demand that we prevent a repeat of extremist attempts to destabilize the situation. And I declare that we will do our best so that civil peace will be preserved in our region, "said Dmitry Kolesnikov, chairman of the Dnipropetrovsk Regional State Administration."
Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-137533.html
Shl. My acquaintances from Dnipro also write about isolated clashes of "youth", but much more about support for anti-Maidan.

[chisya]

As a rule, support for the current president and his party is provided by people already of age. Since independence, a new generation has grown up with a new education and now we see the result. Also, young and active people can afford to "see the world", unlike most pensioners. And as a result, we see a stereotype that we want it to be like in Europe, in Russia the same mess as in ours, etc. So it may be true that there is more order in Europe, but this does not mean at all that we will take and heal beautifully. After all, everything depends on the people inhabiting the country, the people themselves chose such a government and president. In general, as allowed the collapse of the same USSR. This passivity of the population of the southeast was inherited from the scoop, when it was impossible to open the mouth especially. And the guys from the West have not been with Russia for so long and they are more active. Therefore, the east and merges. Here (in the east) for the people to rise, something unreal must happen at all. In general, as in Russia.

[terrible]

we’ll see who lives in Ukraine. They were beaten out as fit as they were in the Second World War, only collaborators, Bandera and Vlasovites remained. there the climate is milder than in Russia, it’s warm. here they are after stretching from the north and reached.

[shelva]

You can’t leave the Russian people to the mercy of the authorities, no matter in which republics or states they are. Russia must fight for the Russians.

[brownie]

Yes, in the south of Ukraine there is an interesting paradox - Russian-speaking Ukrainian nationalists. All communication takes place in Russian, but chanting slogans are voiced in Ukrainian. It’s funny and scary to read the cries of such patriots about the bloody Putin, the evil FSB, the filthy mos_s. The only good news is that there are still few of them. But this is still small and if you let things go by themselves, their number will increase incredibly.

[Yuri Y.]

Quote: little house

It’s funny and scary to read the cries of such patriots

That's for sure. How brainwashed that people forgot their Russianness, and Ukrainians, in principle, are concerned. Even if the word is Russian, that's why. Well, at least Russia is aware of its Ukrainian nature

[Egoza]

Quote: little house

All communication takes place in Russian, but chanting slogans are voiced in Ukrainian.

What do you want? Russian-speaking classes (I'm not talking about schools) have to be defended with battle. Parents are looking for where to make money, but in schools, propaganda is in full swing! There is nowhere for young people to work. And then - to fight, and you will also get paid. Old people and the middle generation have a dual position. For Soviet power-would have risen without talking, and then again for the oligarchs. "Let them kill each other." And only a part realizes that in this way fascism will come. So they protest as best they can.

[coserg 2012]

probably the role of the west is much less than stated. There can’t do without local money bags. In the revolution (my grandmother told me) in our village the power changed eight times in one day. Well, red, white and six more suits? And each has its own suit it is true that everyone killed, chopped and hanged believing only in their own right. Ukraine needs to go together in the EEC and only then they can talk about something. Yanukovych is a good comrade, he made a swara at the exact time, he probably whistled at a tagged training manual, and now it’s like I didn’t plan this and didn’t .Yes and in the power structures there weren’t any eagles, only hens, that’s the result.

[s1н7т]

Quote: coserg 2012

probably the role of the west is much less than claimed

The role of the West is the main one, local money bags are just a convenient tool. It began in about the same way in Transcaucasia.

[Asan Ata]

Why does Russia need this Bandera infection? In reality, it is necessary to divide Ukraine, the pro-Russian will become an ally of Russia, the pro-Western - the headache of Europe.

[holding]

In the video, a crowd of ... kills one person with sticks. So people do not behave, demons, in a word.

[Ross]

Quote: FC Skiff

Using the example of anti-Russia, which has matured in Maloros, we can conclude that the humanitarian component in the development and upbringing of the younger generation is very important. Roughly speaking, you can teach a tractor to drive, but only thanks to an internal understanding of what is good and what is bad, he decides where to go on it - to plow a field or to crush peers - Berkut. And so: qualitatively Russian zombies in Ukraine, it will take a long time to treat them. The main thing is that it is not inherited. It is sad that those in power neither in Ukraine nor in Russia pay any attention to this problem. Respect to the author, he beats the bells alone, indicating a problem.

You need to learn from Stalin, he paid great attention to the education of a person from birth. Now imagine the whole picture of how the world elite is paying close attention and pushing through their "upbringing".
The main thing is to see the errors in time and begin to correct them. To do this, it is necessary to bring out the Russian idea and our traditional values ​​and start them planned, to carry young people at all levels, to re-train teachers, etc.

[Homeless]

Quote: Ivan Tarasov

Yanukovych thus turned out to be a Trojan horse for the Russian world.

Not Yanukovych, but Andropov.
It was his idea to fit the USSR into Western civilization.

Bravo, at least someone wrote the truth, it was Andropov who planned the collapse of the USSR and Gorbachev was his protege! I hope this one turns into hell, and let the second one die for a long time!

[Bene valete]

Quote: Asan Ata

Why does Russia need this Bandera infection? In reality, it is necessary to divide Ukraine, the pro-Russian will become an ally of Russia, the pro-Western - the headache of Europe.

Are you sure that Russia is united? Which Russia ...? Russia that "freezes the snot" in Yakutia or Siberia, earning a piece of bread, or Moscow Russia which does not leave offices and lives on Rublevka (and there is no single nation in Moscow either), and there is no need to talk about national strife. So, it’s a question of whose allies in Russia these duped young wolves (media and "Agitators" of all stripes) can become.

[Bene valete]

Quote: coserg 2012

probably the role of the west is much less than stated. There can’t do without local money bags. In the revolution (my grandmother told me) in our village the power changed eight times in one day. Well, red, white and six more suits? And each has its own suit it is true that everyone killed, chopped and hanged believing only in their own right. Ukraine needs to go together in the EEC and only then they can talk about something. Yanukovych is a good comrade, he made a swara at the exact time, he probably whistled at a tagged training manual, and now it’s like I didn’t plan this and didn’t .Yes and in the power structures there weren’t any eagles, only hens, that’s the result.

I agree with you. The West acted as a catalyst, plays on internal conflicts and very competently takes into account the real situation in Ukraine.

[Bene valete]

Quote: Ross

Quote: FC Skiff

Using the example of anti-Russia, which has matured in Maloros, we can conclude that the humanitarian component in the development and upbringing of the younger generation is very important. Roughly speaking, you can teach a tractor to drive, but only thanks to an internal understanding of what is good and what is bad, he decides where to go on it - to plow a field or to crush peers - Berkut. And so: qualitatively Russian zombies in Ukraine, it will take a long time to treat them. The main thing is that it is not inherited. It is sad that those in power neither in Ukraine nor in Russia pay any attention to this problem. Respect to the author, he beats the bells alone, indicating a problem.

You need to learn from Stalin, he paid great attention to the education of a person from birth. Now imagine the whole picture of how the world elite is paying close attention and pushing through their "upbringing".
The main thing is to see the errors in time and begin to correct them. To do this, it is necessary to bring out the Russian idea and our traditional values ​​and start them planned, to carry young people at all levels, to re-train teachers, etc.

Stalin’s policy is to some extent the cause of the events!

[General Ermolov]

I was there among the so-called "aunts"
and the fact that these gopniks from ultras set up a video of how they beat our
just nothing with how we broke them
they were just very cool crowd of 10 against one
alas 1 on 1 they are not very
but yes, the civil war is already at home
the only question is time
when it burns

[Foxmara]

Courage and strength to you. We are, very far away. But in fact you are fighting for us. Damn, the last time is near.

[Shadowcat]

Russian chopping Russian ... well, the mustache said, oh, and we love to step on the rake ...

[TiGRoO]

This is a war, an honest war! And in Dnepropetrovsk a herd of freaks beats one by one those who are not with them, these are two different things!

[TiGRoO]

This is not Russian! Russians will never behave like that! These are scumbags, bandits, scum! They have no place in normal society, only life in the zone!

[Semen Semyonitch]

It’s painful and hard to watch this ... What did our grandfathers fight for? For something like this -Russian to Russian? (It doesn’t matter-Ukrainian, Belarusian?). This is how worms need to eat their brains so that such a mob armed with bats, pipes and fittings KILL an unarmed, defenseless person ?. If he survives, he will remain disabled for life. Ah, brothers Slavs ... Far go ...

[benq]

It's all terrible ... They only read about it in books, but they watched it in the movies. But it’s like, again, brother went to brother, as in Civil. It's all scary guys ...

[Avas2006]

Quote: shelva

You can’t leave the Russian people to the mercy of the authorities, no matter in which republics or states they are. Russia must fight for the Russians.

Young people in Ukraine are being brainwashed from the very beginning of "Nezalezhnosti". Liberalism without measure and restrictions, injected into the education system, leads inexperienced children to anarchy and fascism. They, after all, think with other people's brains. And it's easy to manipulate them. Inspire the idea of ​​being chosen. Train on football fights. Here's an ultras. There is a lot of energy, the soul asks for a feat, and around - a farting power ...

[nikcris]

Have you been zombied? Me - no! Maybe the reason is not in propaganda, but in gray matter?
PS Was an October Revolutionary, a pioneer, a Komsomol member - he never zombied Then he built a spaceport. Then he traded everything without getting hit. Never zombied. Strange, right?

[nikcris]

All this is vile, vile. Panov lost the bar. And not a barbed wire is enough to block ...

[Barrcode]

Police reaction 0,0! We wouldn't have had these "revolutionaries" standing in the street for two minutes, especially at night, without traffic jams.

[homosum20]

Everything will be fine. The only question is for whom?
I tried to be a winner myself. The worst thing is that when you lose, those who were for you suffer the most.
For the rest, the recipe: do not be a winner - be with a winner.
Well, if it does not suit you, go ahead.

[tank74]

Classic - SHARE AND POWER.

[delfinN]

Quote: hoot

In the video, a crowd of ... kills one person with sticks. So people do not behave, demons, in a word.

These rEvolutionErs see that the authorities are helpless, and from this they "struggle" even more. Uh-uh, but how do they go by themselves, these heroes, when they are alone against the "specialists". Jackals, they get mad at the sight of blood only when they are not opposed.

[Nicotin13]

I remember, in my youth, too, they went, the district to the district. Here, though there were seven for one, there wasn’t any such thing. You’ll get it from your own people for breaking the rules.

[GUSAR]

When will this vile anti-Russian under-state fall apart ...

[Nicotin13]

Somehow, in the dashing 90s, they were sitting over a cup of coffee with one pundit and he told me that Russia would rise, but Ukraine was unlikely.

[ran nearby]

And in Odessa, the maydans and ultras came to the regional state administration, looked, they might not go back, and, having made a formidable look, they quickly went back
Since then, neither close to the mountains, nor to the regional administration

[captain]

I liked one expression from the author; they caught it at the exit from the OG, they caught it, for these scum can only catch and throw themselves at the crowd.

[s1н7т]

Quote: captain

these scum can only catch and throw a crowd at one

So they are on a salary, which still needs to be received! So their jackal tactics, in its own way, is justified. Another thing is that this must be taken into account and there is a chance not just to catch one, but immediately a bunch. It would be to someone. Pi-pets, how money is being decomposed!

[serge]

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[Old scoop]

Weak executive power, the law enforcers are corrupted and ruined in every way - they hinder the creation of lawlessness. At the helm, temporary workers are quicker to grab while their deadline. Sadly, in this situation there is still hope for the best. If Western and overseas gentlemen come to us, there will be no chance.

[LLITOPM 12]

Well? right sector?
soon we will arrange by sectors b ... di

[s1н7т]

What is typical - in the 08th year we got shit for the Olympics, and now too - exactly for the Olympics. Which, in fact, indirectly confirms that all these are links of one chain (on which, I hope, they themselves will hang their last president) - to annoy us as much as possible at the most unexpected moment. And you can also see how they are in a hurry. Not because Putin / Vedmedev, along with "eatRussia", is about to lift the country from its knees (it doesn't burn for them - they have everything "there"), but because they don't believe in Putin and co., They are afraid that they are asking - everything is final, that the country will one day start a U-turn from their filthy capitalism - and then they will be a small but convincing fur animal. A cap. They are not afraid of Russia, and that's a no brainer. So Ukraine was simply not lucky to be a tool.

[mabuta]

You can blame everything on youthful maximalism, youth subculture, and even sports excitement. But to learn vile tricks or attack by a flock from around the corner, and at the same time find justification for their actions, you can only with someone else's filing. You need to look at whom it is beneficial and start the operation from the head. And all these ultras and Natsiks are just hands and legs without a brain.

[Foxmara]

It is impossible to watch. Yanukovych is a criminal. He is responsible for what happens. If he showed courage and humanity - the Maidan would be crushed at 24 o’clock. What banderlogs do is fascism. Everything human has died in these scum. And go hunting at night. It's time to collect the new The Hague.

[Foxmara]

“I’ll hit it!”
Street cries in stereo.
The root of all evil, what else can you do with it?
Created an empire out of tears, vodka and darkness,
Odessa, Donbass and Crimea were imposed on you!

The asphalt is marked with gobies and excrement,
The thief-president has brought the country to ruin.
Who chose forty-nine percent?
Who is guilty? It can't be you!

“Divide everything!” Believe the Sharikovs.
There will be lard from Poland, Norwegian gas.
Whose bodies will you pave the streets with?
But they will divide without you...

From one pocket to another put
Markets, tourism, factories, mineral wealth...
What are you, friends, doing in the square? –
As AS Pushkin asked, the Negro.

Young protest, boy - tight pants,
Fear the echoes of nightmares at night,
Where Galicians are taken away for being RUSSIANS
On the scaffold in Terezin and Talerhof.

Faith in a blind fairy tale and heaven with Europe.
The good master will bring his charter.
“Having burned down their house, they came to Europe as slaves,”
As Kusturica said - Yugoslav.

New slogans of the day - take care of revenge from a young age,
Enjoying the appetite of the jackal flocks.
They are all from hunger, brothers, from hunger, -
As the Scottish Cossack Maclay muttered.

My head is in a noose, I’m standing on a place of execution.
But I have one last question, comrade:
If you hang me now,
Who will always be to blame then?

Alexey Shiryaev

[Foxmara]

For some reason, the ordinary word not mat has never passed the qualification test. original here http://vk.com/feed?section=notifications&w=wall6559499_4900