Syrian "opposition" dropped the mask

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Syrian "opposition" dropped the mask


January 31 ends the first stage of the international conference on Syria "Geneva-2". After the break, a second round of talks should take place.
Over the 10 days of the conference, many predictions were made, quite a few statements were made from all sides. The Syrian delegation, guided by the interests of the people, put at the center of the issue the cessation of terrorism. In addition, she proposed to discuss the Geneva communique attentively, every point to try to find points of contact. But the delegation of the "Syrian opposition" was interested in only one point of the document - namely, that which concerns the transitional government.

However, the first point of the Geneva communique, on the basis of which Geneva-2 was convened, concerns the cessation of violence and terror. And the execution of all subsequent points is possible only when there is no terrorism in the country. Without this condition, no serious and effective political decisions are possible.

Regarding the behavior at the conference of the opposite delegation, we can say that they expressed the interests of various parties that stand behind them: Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the USA. One of those who led the "opposition" in Geneva was former US ambassador to the UAR, Robert Ford. He constantly held meetings, both with individual “oppositionists” and with the whole delegation. They did not dare to take a step without his instructions.

At the January meeting of 30, the delegation of the CAP introduced a draft statement regarding the fight against terrorism. This project was entirely based on UN Security Council resolutions No. 1373 of 2001 of the year and No. 1267 of 1999 of the year. In this document, special attention was paid to the need to confront terrorist groups, for which the cooperation of all parties is important. It also called upon all countries of the world to make all possible efforts to stop financing and arming terrorists, creating training bases for them, and their political patronage. The importance of controlling the borders of all countries neighboring Syria was also mentioned in order to stop the infiltration of terrorists and smuggling weapons.

The delegation of the "opposition", apparently guided by the instructions of Robert Ford and other sponsors, rejected this project.

Thus, people from the "opposition" took off the mask of "benefactors of the Syrian people" and proved that they directly support terrorism, do not want peace in the country and do not even respect the resolutions of the UN Security Council.

"Oppositionists" staged another provocative performance for journalists present in Geneva. They brought with them a woman who called herself the mother of one of the foreign militants, a British citizen of Indian origin, Abbas Khan Shah. Under the mask of a doctor, this person illegally entered Syria, was with the militants, provided them with medical assistance. However, even if one assumes that his activity was limited to treating militants, it is still a complicity in terrorist crimes.

He was arrested by the Syrian authorities. After consultations between the British and Syrian secret services, Syria decided to pardon him and return to Britain. But he hanged himself in prison. All documents on the matter were transferred to the British side, including a medical report on the cause of death, which also states that no traces of violence were found on his body. Obviously, this person was well aware of his guilt, otherwise he would have no reason to commit suicide. So there is every reason to assume that he was far from just a doctor.
In Geneva, a woman who described himself as his mother, in front of television cameras of journalists, was hysterical, cursing with the last words about Syria. When the Syrian journalist Haifa Said tried to ask her a question about the details of the case, the furious fury got into a fight and almost beat the girl. They were separated.

Even if this woman is really the mother of an action movie, then she should blame herself for what happened. After all, her son went to a foreign country, entered there illegally, acted in the ranks of armed groups that kill the Syrians. And what could she say to the mothers of Syrian soldiers who were brutally murdered by terrorists? Parents, children, brothers of those who died in the terrorist attacks arranged by these very "friends" of her son? And those who are the fault of the crimes of the militants have become disabled?

In the meantime, the conference is going on, the villains of the “opposition” continue almost every day. Only 30 January in Damascus, was bombarded by terrorists in the Midan quarter, four people were injured. In the city of Deir-ez-Zor, gangsters fired mortar shells into houses in the Gazi Ayyash quarter. Killed 4 man, including woman and child. In the city of Homs, mortar shells fired by militants in the Al-Hamra and Al-Midan neighborhoods wounded six people. In the city of Aleppo, in the quarter of Al-Khaldi, two were injured as a result of the same crime. In the province of Daraa in the city of Al-Harra, a shell launched by the criminal "opposition" hit the telephone exchange. Her director and one of the employees were injured.

But neither the death nor the wounds of the Syrians do not offend the patrons of the bandits, above all the United States. “Geneva-2” had not finished yet, and they are already striving to prepare a new pretext for a possible intervention.

On the part of the States in recent days, two anti-Syrian statements were made at once. US Secretary of Defense Chuck Heigl expressed dissatisfaction with the way the operation is underway to destroy the Syrian chemical weapons. "The United States is concerned that the Syrian government is behind the agreed timetable for the withdrawal of chemical weapons," he said.

The truth is that the Syrian side is absolutely not to blame for lagging behind the schedule. The Syrian leadership has done everything that was provided for by an agreement between the SAR, the UN and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) - provided information, provided access to experts. Further steps are already being carried out by a special joint mission of the UN and the OPCW. Experts of this mission at the end of last year said that the delay in schedule was due to adverse weather conditions, as well as the actions of terrorists that pose a threat to experts. Washington, as always, is trying to blame the wrong side. Apparently, in bad weather, according to American logic, the leaders of Syria and personally Bashar Al-Assad are also to blame.

Almost at the same time as Hagle's statement, the words of American intelligence officer James Klapper, who accused Syria ... of making biological weapons, were heard. Speaking to the intelligence committee of the US Senate, he said: "According to our estimates, some elements of the military biological program could go quite far." However, he did not provide the slightest evidence of such allegations. Even forgot to shake a test tube, as once Colin Powell.

Thus, the United States deliberately makes efforts to completely fail the Geneva-2 conference, in order to justify again its intervention in the affairs of a sovereign state.
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  1. +8
    1 February 2014 08: 48
    I look at all sorts of carry, it seems that their relatives have Rothschild trunks at vesk, he himself is not happy with what he says. Still such a picture, well, the states will start a war there, we will naturally get involved, but that as a result, the Americans will sing to their citizens in America, in general, they found themselves specific adventures on the ass. Lavrov handsome, all the same, he already said it in plain text, No negotiations with terrorists.
    1. soldat1945
      +3
      1 February 2014 08: 54
      I don’t quite understand in what form you imagine "getting us involved" in the Syrian conflict, this is not a neighboring state, economically, we will not pull out another Afghanistan, we can influence politically, which, by the way, is not a bad thing, well, and special units and military advisers who probably already work there, but so there are enough problems at home.
      1. +14
        1 February 2014 09: 07
        Sorry of course, but then you don’t understand a damn thing at all))), we have already gotten involved for a long time, our command in Syria is doing great things to manage the Syrian forces. Even if according to your logic, then after the defeated Syria, Afghanistan will become even worse for us and Ukraine will become worse and we really will only have to scare Americans with nuclear bombs. A third world war has closed in Syria, and believe me, if we give in to Syria, then the whole bastard will rush to us, and not sail on boats to the American continent.
        1. Alex_Popovson
          +5
          1 February 2014 09: 51
          I apologize, but apart from selling weapons, humanitarian supplies and a small service point in Tartus, Russia is not officially present in Syria. DPRK, China, Belarus are officially present, but not Russia at all. Money, weapons and diplomatic support are coming from Russia, similarly to the USA & satellites.
          And most importantly, about Syria it makes absolutely no sense to talk, in my deep conviction, since Russian diplomats in September last year completely shattered all the US dreams of stealing and killing Syria and all the news from there already about 4 months ago how many bearded dolbotryasy federal troops shot. Everything, the war in Syria is over, it remains only to crush Olka-poison, and to catch Tatars and Nokhchi so that they do not return to Russia, and so that distemper is not sown.
          1. +9
            1 February 2014 12: 34
            if states gradually move from the East to the Pacific and Asia, then
            Quote: Alex_Popovson
            & satellites

            haven’t gone anywhere. To the British left Syria alone? Never. If there is even a small fraction of a percent, that there is an opportunity to at least bite Russia, these will ALWAYS try to use it. And they are not alone. Qatar and Saudi Arabia will not at all abandon its European expansion. The mongrel is small, but vicious and rich. And these are surely calculated further than Russophobian English, for whom hatred of their eyes is blocked. So the war was far from over.
            Quote: Alex_Popovson
            And most importantly, it’s completely senseless to talk about Syria, in my deep conviction, since Russian diplomats in September last year completely shattered all the US dreams of stealing and killing Syria

            Blessed is he who believes
            1. +4
              1 February 2014 12: 38
              Quote: T-73
              if states gradually move from the East to the Pacific and Asia, then

              States do not leave

              Quote: T-73
              To the British left Syria alone?

              Syria has always been the patrimony of France

              Quote: T-73
              Never. If there is even a small fraction of a percent, that there is an opportunity to at least bite Russia, these will ALWAYS try to use it.

              They have their own goals of the Russian Federation. nothing to do with it. and Syria (before this war) like 20 years was quite far from the Russian Federation
              Quote: T-73
              than Russophobian British, who hate eyes hate

              I repeat again. Syria is the patrimony of France. Jordan - England
              1. +2
                1 February 2014 13: 34
                Quote: atalef
                I repeat again. Syria is the patrimony of France.

                Really? leave your imperial ways. Repeat your mantras another 100 times, maybe something will change. And it’s time for France to erase its own, and not teach others how to do it.
              2. +4
                1 February 2014 20: 36
                Syria has always been the patrimony of France

                Meanwhile, take a look at Wiki:
                In 1922, the League of Nations decided to divide the former Syrian possessions of the Ottoman Empire between Britain and France.
                On September 27, 1941, France granted Syria independence, leaving its troops on its territory until the end of World War II. 2 In April 1946, French troops were evacuated from Syria.


                Why am I not surprised, shaw Jews again tell their own independent story ?!
                Or did Syria not exist before 1920 and after 1946?
          2. Fin
            +7
            1 February 2014 12: 56
            Quote: Alex_Popovson
            Everything, the war in Syria is over,

            A good jamb in the morning and around grace.
          3. 0
            2 February 2014 14: 16
            Quote: Alex_Popovson
            DPRK, China, Belarus are officially present, but not Russia at all. Money, weapons and diplomatic support come from Russia

            However, for a war Syria needs money, weapons, ammunition, and not some kind of abstract "presence."
        2. soldat1945
          -2
          1 February 2014 20: 54
          I asked you specifically how you imagine the interference of our regular army in the internal affairs of Syria and what will be the situation inside our country after the arrival of the first "zinc" from there, but about the third world I do not need to be "treated" my soldier is more expensive here in the battalion than there is a warrior with an incomprehensible motivation, but as I wrote above special. subdivisions, military advisers, the militia can be added there, please, this is a conscious choice! Well, as if the request about "nifega do not understand" let me understand as much as my meager mind can understand and you as much as your mighty thinking in geopolitical concepts!
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    2. -15
      1 February 2014 09: 45
      Quote: ZU-23
      No negotiations with the terrorists.

      Then the war will never end. Assad does not have the power to turn the tide, he simply does not have human resources, since the Alawites and Christians are a minority in Syria, against the Sunni majority, the main problem is the fact that Assad remains in power, no one is willing to give up, and this is clear if Assad is removed - to all Alawites in Syria, well, if not the end, then it’s close to this, and the Sunnis will never agree with Assad as the president, the best option is to hold elections, but Assad is not ready for this, so the war will be fought there for a very long time then civilian, and even with a religious bias
      1. +13
        1 February 2014 09: 55
        Something I did not understand your attack on Assad, or I really understand you by the flag, Assad will win any election and he can say about these elections.
        1. -30
          1 February 2014 10: 29
          Quote: ZU-23
          Assad will win any election, and he can say he dreams of this election.

          Of course laughing
          , or I really understand you by the flag

          Understand what ? Thanks to Assad - what he did to Syria - we could not even dream of. Syria is destroyed, thrown back 30 years ago, without chemical weapons, with the war. which will not end for a long, long time.
          If you say that Assad has nothing to do with it - this option suits me the same. Let it have nothing to do with it.
          Let it be all external forces - but if he has not been able to cope with them for 3 years - then it’s good.
          For me, he will hold elections - he will not. It's better . that would not spend holding elections is a chance that Assad will be thrown off, some bandits will come. will be 2nd Iraq. Why do we need this. Let Assad fight for many years, and let him die in this war, let him be the last of the citizens of Syria.
          1. +28
            1 February 2014 11: 11
            Thanks to Assad - what he did to Syria - we could not even dream of. Syria is destroyed, thrown back to 30 years ago, without chemical weapons, with war.


            And your Jewish Haganate, seizing the opportunity, and as usual, in his best traditions, hits the back of a busy and weakened enemy. A worthy occupation for a worthy country.
            1. -22
              1 February 2014 11: 28
              Quote: maxbrov74
              And your Jewish Khaganate, seizing the opportunity, and as usual, in its best traditions, hits the back of a busy and weakened enemy

              so surely Comrade Beria. - it is true, and before that, he was not particularly an adversary to us.
              But continue in the best traditions - you are relatively new here - tell us again how we deliver weapons (bring a photo of a jeep 20 years ago) some mine with Israeli markings, and tell us how we bombed Syrian air defense systems and now it doesn’t give Assad defeating bandits (they (bandiuk) as I understand the Air Force are especially powerful) - well, start.
              1. +13
                1 February 2014 11: 52
                But continue in the best traditions - you're relatively new here - tell us again how we deliver weapons


                Do you supply? Taki for silver coins?
                Mr. Starosluzhitel, I didn’t drink and do not plan to brudershaft with you, so try to continue without familiarities in the future.
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                  1. +13
                    1 February 2014 12: 57
                    Quote: atalef
                    try further without familiarities.

                    Quote: atalef
                    Go exercise

                    maxbrov74, Israel still considers itself a great state. But insight gradually comes that they are on the sidelines of history. Only the US assistance in possessing nuclear weapons and subsidies of billions of dollars allowed it to play some role in the world. They don’t give money anymore, neither the Americans nor their foreign mobs. Nithanyahu ... That angry fellow Jews. Yes, and there is something. Descend proud Jews to allied with the Saudis))). They are as follows. After all, it’s really not clear whether Israel has nuclear weapons. Around the enemies. And all uncircumcised are to blame
                    1. -8
                      1 February 2014 13: 02
                      Quote: T-73
                      Israel still considers itself a great state. But insight gradually comes that they are on the sidelines of history.

                      Thank God . if they forgot about us. I would only be glad

                      Quote: T-73
                      Only the US assistance in possessing nuclear weapons and subsidies of billions of dollars allowed it to play some role in the world.

                      But from now on, Stirlitz, please read more
                      Quote: T-73
                      That angry fellow Jews.

                      Okay cute. as in the old joke
                      Do not chop, with ..t --- dough is not measured laughing
                      1. +3
                        1 February 2014 16: 53
                        Quote: atalef
                        But from now on, Stirlitz, please read more

                        That is, I know in Russia what they don't know in Israel? Maybe few people know at all that the US has been annually allocating money to Israel since the mid-60s (otherwise, why did you rearm the IDF after the Yom Kippur War?), True in the form of long-term loans, but were they going to give them back? However, the money was returned to the United States for amerovskoe weapons. But very soon the US Congress replaced the form of payment for the satellite with "free military aid." Did not know? And since the mid-80s, the annual total US aid to Israel has been 3 billion doilers. No? For the sake of fairness, I will say that you have not eaten this money in vain. Your military-industrial complex is built on them. The industry was raised. You even began to sell to amers what you originally purchased (who would doubt it, but here you sometimes even made them technologically). True, I read on the network that a certain Jerusalem Institute for the Study of Economic Markets says that US economic assistance is only to the detriment of Israel, but it’s hard to believe. A good mine with a bad game, most likely. And is there such an Institute at all? I do not know (educate, by the way, if you own info).
                        About nuclear weapons is a mystery covered in darkness. By Israel itself. Israel itself seems to have a hand in the fact that "declassified" stories of the transfer of either the technology of creation, then materials, or documentation on nuclear weapons are constantly emerging. Why does Israel need this? The question is naive. One of the options for the development of the Israeli nuclear program can be found here:

                        http://ilgid.ru/science/nuclear.html (есть другие, англоязычные источники, сам не владею, но может кому и интересно: http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/index.html)

                        The truth there (ilgid.ru/) does not say about the role of France in the formation of Israel as a nuclear power, but there are other resources with a different course of events. Yandex with Google to help.

                        Here is an entertaining article, by the way:
                        http://topwar.ru/33836-izrail-oruzhie-po-pravilam-i-bez.html

                        Just to be sure that the country has nuclear weapons, it is necessary that at least missiles / planes fly where they can. And carry out tests. And then the Arabs - they are so incredulous. To doubt yet. And if necessary
                        Quote: atalef
                        more details

                        see no obstacles. "Seek and you will find, push and it will be opened to you"
                      2. -1
                        1 February 2014 17: 05
                        Quote: T-73
                        And since the mid-80's, the annual total US assistance to Israel amounted to 3 billion doilers ...
                        ... which amounts to a little over 3% of the country's budget, and in relation to GDP in general it is not significant fellow

                        Quote: T-73
                        True, I read on the network that a certain Jerusalem Institute for the Study of Economic Markets says that US economic assistance goes only to the detriment of Israel ...

                        And rightly so, this help has become a burden, annual losses in external technology and arms markets from over USA have long exceeded 3bn per year, only China is ready to buy products blocked by USA over 10-15 billion a year, I’m completely silent about the rest. And despite the fact that Israel is capable of VERY MUCH to move USA into weapons and technology markets. So USA help for today is not help anymore, but control and containment tool dangerous competitor. request
                      3. +2
                        1 February 2014 17: 31
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        which amounts to just over 3% of the country's budget, and in relation to GDP it’s generally insignificant

                        there is reason to be happy? Tell me how much it was% at the beginning of the 80s. I think there will be nothing to rejoice at.
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        it’s not a help anymore, but a tool to control and deter a dangerous competitor

                        That's right. Who would argue. The way it is. Did you want different? No, well, it’s clear that yes, only ...
                      4. -4
                        1 February 2014 17: 37
                        Quote: T-73
                        there is reason to be happy? Tell me how much it was% at the beginning of the 80s. I think there will be nothing to rejoice at.

                        Yes, no matter how much. Egypt received the same thing, and this is not real money. you cannot buy Brussels sprouts on them and you cannot build a chicken coop. Exclusively on the supply of weapons. By the way. and what amounts of USSR and weapons and facilities built in Egypt. Syria. Lebanon. how much dough fell into the PLO.
                        Pobole will be, but the result laughing , not a horse (or rather a donkey) food is visible.
                      5. +3
                        1 February 2014 18: 30
                        Quote: atalef
                        this is not real money. you cannot buy Brussels sprouts on them and you cannot build a chicken coop. Arms exclusively

                        Diversification of cash flows only seems complicated.
                        Quote: atalef
                        and on what amounts the USSR built weapons and facilities in Egypt. Syria. Lebanon. how much dough fell into the PLO. Pobole will be

                        we spent OWN. Rationally or not, another question. I do not laugh at the Egyptians like warriors, although it may have been worth it, but where yours have clashed with our military specialists, you were not enough. But ... times are changing. Tuaregs with spears leave the arena (on the site it was like someone there?), Giving way to people prepared for war. Mercenaries. And they are next to you, where you turn further unknown. However, for you now the war is that the mother is native. Do not be surprised at the occasion.
                        As for Syria - inappropriate. And does Libya give you peace of mind? Have fun on health
                      6. 0
                        1 February 2014 18: 43
                        Quote: T-73
                        Diversification of cash flows only seems complicated.

                        ??

                        Quote: T-73
                        we spent OWN.
                        so is America

                        Quote: T-73
                        . I don’t laugh at the Egyptians like warriors, although it may have been worth it, but where yours have clashed with our military specialists, you weren’t enough

                        There, by the way, and grabbed
                        Quote: T-73
                        . And does Libya give you peace of mind? Have fun on health

                        Libya? We are up to 3 months in Libya riding dogs. And Libya, in general, did not bother us. You did not confuse Libya with Lebanon? Different countries for a minute.
                      7. -1
                        1 February 2014 21: 55
                        Quote: T-73
                        but where yours clashed with our military specialists, you were not enough.

                        There was, was not, in fact - they were made, the Soviet pilots kicked their ass over the blue, the air defenders were beaten, the scouts were left in the cold, the equipment (tanks, radars, planes) was trophy. Not complaining shorter hi
                      8. +4
                        1 February 2014 23: 12
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        Not complaining shorter

                        Well, if only to admins. wink laughing
                      9. -1
                        1 February 2014 17: 09
                        Quote: T-73
                        That is, I in Russia know what they do not know in Israel? Maybe, in general, few people know that the United States allocated money to Israel annually from the 60s seridine (otherwise, what did you rearm the IDF after the Doomsday War?),

                        Really. few people know. that under the Camp David Treaty, Egypt receives from the United States exactly the same amount of a cent per cent. And they probably know less. that this is cashless exclusively for the purchase of American weapons and no one else. especially not living money

                        Quote: T-73
                        But very soon the US Congress replaced the form of payment for the satellite with "free military aid." Did not know?

                        I knew. like Egypt

                        Quote: T-73
                        And since the mid-80s, the annual total US assistance to Israel amounted to 3 billion doilers. No

                        Well yes. which is 5% of the budget of Israel. Crazy money - I want to cry already. We sell weapons at 2 times large amounts per year.


                        Quote: T-73
                        The Jerusalem Institute for the Study of Economic Markets says that US economic assistance is only to the detriment of Israel, but it is hard to believe

                        And you try. only a deal to sell our AWACS aircraft to China was supposed to bring 3.5 billion bucks, the States were hacked, a penalty of 800 million had to be paid.
                        Quote: T-73
                        One of the options for the development of the Israeli nuclear program can be found here:

                        Well, even if you know everything --- what is the question then?
                        Quote: T-73
                        The truth is there (ilgid.ru/) it is not said about the role of France in the formation of Israel as a nuclear power

                        I will tell you - France delivered a reactor to Israel. in exchange for Israeli heavy water technology - the most advanced at that time

                        Quote: T-73
                        Just to be sure that the country has nuclear weapons, it is necessary that at least missiles / planes fly where they can. And carry out tests

                        Everything is just for you
                        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BD_(%D1%80%
                        D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0)
                      10. +4
                        1 February 2014 17: 18
                        Quote: atalef
                        Everything is just for you

                        Thank you, of course, but trusting Wikipedia in Russia is not particularly accepted, so at the level of recipes or information about Tom Cruise. The link, by the way, is broken.
                        They are hiding something from us !!!
                      11. 0
                        1 February 2014 17: 40
                        Quote: T-73
                        Thank you, of course, but trusting Wikipedia in Russia is not particularly accepted,

                        Who would doubt that . and who do you trust? Newspaper Tomorrow or ORT?

                        Quote: T-73
                        The link, by the way, is broken.
                        They are hiding something from us !!!

                        working. I checked . Or type - Jericho missiles.
                      12. +2
                        1 February 2014 17: 49
                        I can’t open it, here:
                      13. 0
                        1 February 2014 18: 12
                        Quote: T-73
                        I can’t open it, here:

                        Well in the search engine - Jericho missiles - can you type? Or doesn’t it give anything? And in English?
                      14. 0
                        2 February 2014 12: 07
                        Quote: atalef
                        the same gives nothing

                        Yes, I can, I can .. Gives. Even in Hebrew gives, or in IVR takes, calm down ...
                      15. +2
                        1 February 2014 17: 54
                        Quote: T-73
                        who do you trust? Newspaper Tomorrow or ORT?

                        And you? I don’t read tomorrow, I rarely watch ORT. Thank God there is plenty to choose from. IPTV has not been canceled either. The general picture of the world is like a mosaic. But it’s hard to fold. I, like you, seem to be trying
                      16. +1
                        2 February 2014 12: 04
                        Quote: atalef
                        Or type - Jericho rockets

                        Thank you for opening your eyes. It turns out that Israel has Jericho missiles. We are dark people in Russia, we thought the old fashioned way was to use Jericho-3, the source is not reliable but what is rich in, as they say:
                        http://topwar.ru/31136-izrailskaya-mezhkontinentalnaka-ballisticheskya-raketa.ht
                        ml
                      17. +1
                        1 February 2014 17: 40
                        Quote: atalef
                        under the Camp David Treaty, Egypt receives exactly the same cent from cent from the United States

                        in fact, it was an Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty concluded at Camp David, whether it included the economic package of assistance from a third party - the United States.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Well, even if you know everything --- what is the question then?

                        but I don’t ask them.
                        Quote: atalef
                        I will tell you - France delivered a reactor to Israel. in exchange for Israeli heavy water technology - the most advanced at that time

                        that's where the links would come in handy
                      18. -2
                        1 February 2014 17: 56
                        Quote: T-73
                        in fact, it was an Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty concluded at Camp David, whether it included the economic package of assistance from a third party - the United States.

                        Familiarize yourself with the topic and do not write nonsense. as well as the fact that Israel receives economic assistance from the United States. Military - yes., But a cent to a cent with Egypt. You know the languages ​​(according to your statement), the information is sea and it is open
                      19. +2
                        1 February 2014 18: 45
                        Quote: atalef
                        You speak the languages ​​(according to your statement)

                        in my opinion "I don't own it myself"
                        Quote: atalef
                        Read the topic and do not write nonsense

                        understandably?
                        Quote: atalef
                        as well as the fact that Israel receives economic assistance from the United States. Military - yes

                        and I also wrote that now "No more money is given, neither the Americans, nor their foreign moishes." Read on. Info in my comments
                        Quote: atalef
                        and she is open

                        More attentively, or as a well-known person in the USSR used to say - "more careful, guys"))) And that's all nonsense for you. Teach your own, at the national Revue הצבאי
                      20. 0
                        2 February 2014 12: 00
                        Quote: atalef
                        Egypt receives exactly the same amount from the USA

                        tell me, I alone think that you constantly look in someone else’s pocket? Is it a national tradition to smell where the money is?
                      21. +2
                        1 February 2014 19: 07
                        Not in sports with him, he wants this, he just needs to be ignored, and he will be bent, or again complain, about humiliation. SCHMUCK.
                      22. Castor
                        +2
                        2 February 2014 17: 14
                        Quote: atalef
                        Thank God . if they forgot about us. I would only be glad

                        It's hard to forget the one who came with weapons to your house.
              2. +6
                1 February 2014 12: 42
                Quote: atalef
                you're new here regarding

                Super, what is interesting about?

                atalef
                Registration Date: January 9, 2013

                maxbrov74
                Registration Date: January 5, 2012

                Well, teach Lawrence ... The last argument of the kings?
                1. -9
                  1 February 2014 12: 44
                  Quote: T-73
                  Quote: atalef
                  you're new here regarding

                  Super, what is interesting about?

                  atalef
                  Registration Date: January 9, 2013

                  maxbrov74
                  Registration Date: January 5, 2012

                  Well, teach Lawrence ... The last argument of the kings?

                  Well yes registration. I’m still Romanova and Ascetic - I remember as privates
                2. +3
                  1 February 2014 12: 47
                  Quote: T-73
                  Quote: atalef
                  you're new here regarding

                  Super, what is interesting about?

                  atalef
                  Registration Date: January 9, 2013

                  maxbrov74
                  Registration Date: January 5, 2012

                  Well, teach Lawrence ... The last argument of the kings?

                  Actually, you’re probably new as well, since Sanya has been on the site for three years and many know him
                  1. +5
                    1 February 2014 13: 31
                    Quote: igor67
                    Actually, you’re probably new

                    If so, what? And if not? And what, "new" - how should spirits in the army be on this site? Or is it wrong? or not? Oriflame is thrown in? rude? happens, of course. But I also see some aksakals have not yet learned how to address strangers to "you".
                    1. 0
                      1 February 2014 14: 06
                      Quote: T-73
                      happens, of course. But I also see some aksakals still have not learned to address strangers to "you".

                      I’m saying you’re new. maybe already explained dozens of times. Turning to you is just a cost. in Hebrew there is no appeal to you. 20 years has played its job. I am in no way trying to insult a person by turning to YOU ​​- it just happens. weaned. Therefore, if you offended anyone - sorry. I say it again
                      MY APPEAL TO YOU IN ANYTHING DOES NOT REDUCE MY RESPECT TO THE OPPONENT,
                      just a habit, being determines consciousness.
                      Try to perceive mine as YOU, and even with a capital letter. I didn’t want to offend anyone - if someone took it that way --- sorry.
                      1. +2
                        1 February 2014 14: 31
                        Quote: atalef
                        Turning to you is just a cost. in Hebrew there is no appeal to you.

                        Then write in Hebrew), in Russian there is an appeal to you.
                        Quote: atalef
                        unaccustomed

                        It happens)))
                        Quote: atalef
                        Try to take my you as YOU, and even with a capital letter

                        I perceive and take into account the future. But next time you will probably have another opponent who is also not familiar with the linguistic subtleties of other languages. Explain again?
                  2. Castor
                    +2
                    2 February 2014 17: 18
                    Quote: igor67
                    Actually, you’re probably new as well, since Sanya has been on the site for three years and many know him

                    But they say there is no hazing in Israel, they are breaching.
              3. +8
                1 February 2014 12: 57
                Quote: atalef
                and tell us how we bombed Syrian air defense facilities and now this does not allow Assad to defeat the bandiuk (they (the bandiuk) as I understand the air force are especially powerful) - well, get started.


                You bomb the truth and not the air defense objects, but the specific people and troops that are needed to fight the terrorists, this is so. And you friend tell us who orders you to bomb?
                1. -6
                  1 February 2014 13: 05
                  Quote: Geisenberg
                  You bomb the truth and not the air defense objects, but the specific people and troops that are needed to fight the terrorists, this is so

                  shit. You can some kind of basic confirmation, about the troops. Comrade Geisenberg.
                  How is it with * blue skies * - we smoke?

                  Quote: Geisenberg
                  And you friend tell us who orders you to bomb?

                  Yes, we ourselves are nothing, we can.
                2. -1
                  1 February 2014 20: 45
                  Quote: Geisenberg
                  You bomb the truth and not the air defense objects, but the specific people and troops that are needed to fight the terrorists, this is so. And you friend tell us who orders you to bomb?

                  Here is yesterday’s bombardment of Tsahal Syria:

                  1. +2
                    2 February 2014 01: 13
                    Quote: professor
                    Here is yesterday’s bombardment of Tsahal Syria:


                    And for a long time Syria waved ?? Actually, the real IDF is quite similar, especially I liked the akbar. Well done guys will soon begin to pray 6 times a day to perform and grow beards.
                    1. 0
                      2 February 2014 11: 36
                      Quote: Geisenberg
                      And for a long time Syria waved ??

                      If you listen to the supporters of Assad, it is already 3 years.

                      Quote: Geisenberg
                      Actually, the real IDF is quite similar, especially I liked the akbar.

                      Of course, this is how Zahal bombed neighborhoods with residents.

                      Quote: Geisenberg
                      Well done guys will soon begin to pray 6 times a day to perform and grow beards

                      5 times a day. This is what the Qur'an requires.
                      1. 0
                        2 February 2014 15: 27
                        This is a conversation of the dumb with the blind. Israel Defense Forces Diving? Syria cannot have an Israeli army. I was wrong ??? Well, forgive me and continue to state in the main language of the forum, so that everything is clear.

                        Quote: professor
                        5 times a day. This is what the Qur'an requires.


                        Maladie. I’ll buy a ladies cap to measure.

                        And to be honest, I deeply care about what you have fun so far no one sees. Do not wake the beast.
                      2. 0
                        2 February 2014 21: 20
                        Quote: Geisenberg
                        Syria cannot have an Israeli army. I was wrong ???

                        So is not the Israeli army bombing Syria? But what about yours:
                        Quote: Geisenberg
                        You bomb and in truth not the air defense objects, but the specific people and troops that are needed to fight the terrorists, this is so.

                        You are really nice people decide who and what is bombing there.
                  2. +2
                    2 February 2014 01: 40
                    The professor just graphically showed who was bombing the city. The Mi-8 helicopter (17)
                    Syrian Air Force. As you can see the bombs are thrown by hand. The original point bombing)) laughing judging by the exclamations and the location of the video camera, the militants did not suffer from this at all. There is little that can be achieved with such bombings.

                    To bomb Syria, Israel can use both airplanes and helicopters. But the Israeli Air Force does not have a Mi-8 helicopter in the list of aircraft at all. And most importantly, manual bombing is not used in the Israeli Air Force, there is no need for this.
                    1. 0
                      2 February 2014 14: 36
                      I see you very funny, lonely when people die? Israeli infallibility does not sleep? Wake up, garn lads!
                      Quote: lonely
                      The original point bombing))

                      you won’t stay away.
                      1. +3
                        2 February 2014 15: 36
                        Yes, no, it’s not funny that people are dying. But the fact that you voluntarily hung noodles with your own hands on your ears is ridiculous to tears)
                        You wake up better, otherwise you still sleep under the impressions of Gromova’s articles and Musin’s video reports, which are full of inaccuracies, staged filming and outright lies.
                        Yes! The method of bombing is original. Well, where are the assurances of the Syrian government that the bombings are intended only against militants? Do you consider such a bombing targeted? Do you give guarantees that women and children do not die during such bombings? Why is your beloved Assad better than this fanatical cat? They are both equally bloodthirsty and criminal. But you and others like you here are only engaged in praising the same u.rod as these jihadists. And you do it only because Assad is "your son of a bitch!"

                        Quote: T-73
                        you won’t stay away.


                        We will wait and see who will remain aloof and who will not
                    2. 0
                      2 February 2014 15: 33
                      Quote: lonely
                      The professor just graphically showed who was bombing the city. The Mi-8 helicopter (17)


                      The professor shows a cookie in his pocket. I can clearly demonstrate what I’m doing the children from which the militants will not cease to be terrorists and suddenly the need to destroy them will not disappear.
                      1. 0
                        2 February 2014 15: 57
                        Quote: Geisenberg
                        I can clearly demonstrate what I’m doing the children from which the militants will not cease to be terrorists and suddenly the need to destroy them will not disappear.


                        Well, yes. But the methods of destruction resembles the First World War, where bombs were also thrown from biplanes by hand
                3. +1
                  1 February 2014 22: 09
                  Plus and support!
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          2. Urus
            0
            1 February 2014 11: 50
            Destroyed, uncontrolled-Syria is much more dangerous for Israel, it’s always better when the neighbor is calm.
          3. +7
            1 February 2014 12: 26
            Quote: atalef
            Thanks to Assad - what he did to Syria - we could not even dream of. Syria is destroyed, thrown back 30 years ago, without chemical weapons, with the war. which will not end for a long, long time.


            Yes, of course) Assad is evil, he started a war, he kills children and women) Do you even understand what you say fool And the United States means nothing to do with, "they did not see anyone", "they did not hear anyone") Less listen to the American media, there really is only 10-15%. Militants are not angels in white coats fellow distributing food and water to the poor, "whom Assad offended." Did Asal start a war, does he commit terrorist attacks from which ordinary people are killed every day? It is the United States that is the main sponsor of the militants, who supplies them with weapons every week. And 80% of the militants are foreign citizens. who have not been to Syria, so say " fellow Civil war fellow "at least stupid. This is more of an" unofficial intervention "in which the West" does not officially participate. "

            Quote: atalef
            For me, he will hold elections - he will not. It's better . that would not spend holding elections is a chance that Assad will be thrown off, some bandits will come


            The elections will be this year. And Assad supports them, not being afraid that he will lose. Only the militants will not calm down. They will start a war against the new ruler, continuing to brutally kill the Syrian people. The defeat of the militants is only a matter of time. And if they lose Assad or the new ruler will not feel sorry for them. Some will be sent to community service, others will be sentenced to life, the death penalty to others. I wish the militants to change their minds and stop the atrocities, because voluntarily surrendering will be granted.

            Quote: atalef
            Let Assad fight for many years, and let him die in this war, let him be the last of the citizens of Syria.


            Something I do not understand your sarcasm. request You say so, as if he needed a war. Once again I warn you, watch the Western media a little less. They do not even lie like that.
            1. -12
              1 February 2014 12: 52
              Quote: supertiger21
              Yes, of course) Assad is evil, he started a war, he kills children and women) Do you even understand what you say

              in a civil war, both sides commit war crimes. Assad's wine. that he, as head of state, allowed this (the beginning of the war)
              Quote: supertiger21
              Listen less to the American media, there really is only 10-15%.

              Strange you. you see Syria on Musin’s reports. unlike you - I don’t even need binoculars. to see Syria
              Quote: supertiger21
              Militants are not angels in white coats

              Of course - such an impression. what I am for them - they are bandits and in Syria - bandits
              Quote: supertiger21
              It is the United States that is the main sponsor of the militants who supply them with weapons every week.

              You are generally not in the subject. The weapons are Saudi Arabia, Qatar, France, and Turkey - then for a long, long time no one is there, and then the USA
              Quote: supertiger21
              And 80% of the militants are foreign nationals who have not been to Syria,

              Musin News. In Syria, foreigners are no more than 10-15%.
              How else? How can you fight in the territory if the civilian population does not support you? Remember Che Guevara and 3 months the poor did not last

              Quote: supertiger21
              This is more of an "unofficial intervention" in which the West "does not officially participate."

              belay
              1. +3
                1 February 2014 16: 37
                Quote: atalef
                in a civil war, both sides commit war crimes. Assad's wine. that he, as head of state, allowed this


                I will give you an example from ordinary life. "Three maniacs attacked a man, the poor man was severely beaten and his wallet was taken away" - maybe you say that he should not have allowed this. It is not possible to foresee everything and keep track of everything.

                Quote: atalef
                Strange you. you see Syria on Musin’s reports. unlike you - I don’t even need binoculars. to see Syria


                The fact that you are geographically close to the territory of the conflict does not mean that you know everything there. I’m sorry if the shells fired by militants or Assad reach you. But the war is not only near the Golan Heights.

                Quote: atalef
                Of course - such an impression. what I am for them - they are bandits and in Syria - bandits


                I agree with this. But for people like them, even the name "bandits" will be too beautiful. These are mad animals, which are an erroneous offshoot of the genus Homo Sapiens.

                Quote: atalef
                You are generally not in the subject. The weapons are Saudi Arabia, Qatar, France, and Turkey - then for a long, long time no one is there, and then the USA


                And I do not deny that these countries are also suppliers of weapons. You forgot to mention that militant training camps are located in Turkey and Jordan.

                Quote: atalef
                Musin News. In Syria, foreigners are no more than 10-15%. How else? How can you fight in the territory if the civilian population does not support you? Remember Che Guevara and 3 months the poor did not last


                Tell that to militants who don’t even tell the people what they’re fighting for. Citizens of other states kill Syrian citizens by pretending to be liberators. And don’t talk nonsense about 10-15%. Many people have left the Russian Federation to fight in Syria in the ranks of the SAA. My distant relative with some acquaintances (also Russians) went to study at a militant camp in Syria, but he was already killed in Syria by government forces.
                1. -2
                  1 February 2014 17: 17
                  Quote: supertiger21
                  I will give you an example from ordinary life. "Three maniacs attacked a man, the poor man was severely beaten and his wallet was taken away" - you may say that he should not have allowed this. It is impossible to foresee everything and keep track of everything

                  if the case is a one-time one, then the police will sort it out, if it doesn’t figure it out and the cases become more frequent, someone will be dismissed (the head of the ROVD) as an example?
                  Quote: supertiger21
                  The fact that you are geographically close to the territory of the conflict does not mean that you know everything there

                  I agree . but still more than you. at least on the basis of that. that people with relatives in Syria work with me (of course, not Jews)
                  Quote: supertiger21
                  These are rabid animals, which are an erroneous branch of the genus Homo sapiens.

                  And on both sides - enough

                  Quote: supertiger21
                  You forgot to mention that militant training camps are in Turkey and Jordan.

                  Well, see. and say USA
                  Quote: supertiger21
                  And do not talk nonsense about 10-15%

                  And I don’t say. I know


                  Quote: supertiger21
                  My distant relative with some acquaintances (also Russians) went to study in a militant camp in Syria, but was already killed in Syria by government forces.

                  so tell tales. For 3 years, more than 140 tons of people were killed - correlate the number of deaths (even taking into account the civilian population). according to the well-known formula to the number of all warring parties - get the approximate number of warring parties.
                  1. +2
                    1 February 2014 17: 46
                    Quote: atalef
                    And on both sides - enough


                    I’m afraid that there are many more from the side of the militants.

                    Quote: atalef
                    Well, see. and say USA


                    Yes, I say the USA. The Saudis, the British, Jordan, Turkey and ... the USA.

                    Quote: atalef
                    so tell tales


                    What fairy tales? I didn’t tell a comedy.

                    Quote: atalef
                    For 3 years, more than 140t people were killed - correlate the number of deaths (even taking into account the civilian population). according to the well-known formula to the number of all warring parties - get the approximate number of warring parties.


                    Well, it's not my fault that militants execute everyone and everything that moves.
              2. +1
                1 February 2014 22: 20
                Uv, you can see that on the Russian site you’ve been hanging around with the Israeli ideology for a long time, but in life you even rose to a discount?
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              4. Castor
                +1
                2 February 2014 17: 21
                Quote: atalef
                Of course - such an impression. what I am for them - they are bandits and in Syria - bandits

                Well, of course, Assad is to blame, not bandits and murderers, and those who sent them to Syria - the USA, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel.
            2. 0
              1 February 2014 12: 56
              Quote: atalef
              The elections will be this year. And Assad himself supports them, not being afraid that he will lose.

              There will be no election

              Quote: supertiger21
              Defeat militants is only a matter of time.

              How many? So far 3 years have passed

              Quote: supertiger21
              And if they lose, Assad or the new ruler will not spare them. Some will be sent to community service,

              In nursing homes to care for the elderly?

              Quote: supertiger21
              Something I do not understand your sarcasm. You say so, as if he needed a war. Once again I warn you, watch the Western media a little less. They do not even lie like that.

              I speak three languages. And you ?
              Quote: atalef
              You say so, as if he needed a war.

              He doesn’t need her. but she is already there and he cannot win in it. If he was Sunni, then yes. Alavit is a dead end.
              1. +1
                1 February 2014 16: 50
                Quote: atalef
                There will be no election


                Did Obama tell you this? laughing

                Quote: atalef
                How many? So far 3 years have passed


                For 3 years, Assad’s troops have achieved success by reducing the zone of influence of the militants.

                Quote: atalef
                In nursing homes to care for the elderly?


                What??? belay

                Quote: atalef
                I speak three languages. And you ?


                You’ll be surprised, but I’m exactly the same. And I download information not only from Russian-language sources. I watched on TV the data on the account of Syria from the France 24 channel, for the most part their words do not quite correspond to reality.

                Quote: atalef
                He doesn’t need her. but she is already there and he cannot win in it. If he was Sunni, then yes. Alavit is a dead end.


                If the Sunnis come to power, I don’t think that the militants will become good guys
                1. +1
                  1 February 2014 17: 23
                  Quote: supertiger21
                  You’ll be surprised, but I’m exactly the same. And I download information not only from Russian-language sources. I watched on TV the data on the account of Syria from the France 24 channel, for the most part their words do not quite correspond to reality.

                  Your reality? Or the reality that you want to hear?
                  Quote: supertiger21
                  If the Sunnis come to power, I don’t think that the militants will become good guys

                  will not, but the Alawites have even less prospects.
                  1. +2
                    1 February 2014 17: 39
                    Quote: atalef
                    Your reality? Or the reality that you want to hear?


                    Reality, which is reality! wink

                    Quote: atalef
                    will not, but the Alawites have even less prospects.


                    You are right in this. But from the fact that the Alafites leave, you think that the violence will stop, and most likely will resume with greater force.
            3. +5
              1 February 2014 15: 04
              Quote: supertiger21
              I warn you again, watch the Western media less. They do not even lie like that.

              ALL media are lying when the decree comes from above, and Western, and Russian, and Chinese, and the republics of bananastan, ALL WITHOUT EXCLUSION request
            4. 0
              2 February 2014 14: 56
              Quote: supertiger21
              You say so, as if he needed a war.

              Of course you need it)). Only to Israel
              Questions about the forgiving religion of these comrades come down to one thing. To war. For money. Atalef, you (in Hebrew there is no reference to "you", he said himself, the Russian language is more flexible, it allows you to put into circulation exactly what I want) you sleep and see your Israel as the navel of the world. Hang yourself. Soon in Russia, the Jewish lobby will have a kerdyk. Am I a Nazi? No dear. You played too much, and not even slightly. The Germans rewrote history for us after Lomonosov, now people like you are trying. I am Russian. I have friends (FRIENDS!) Of different nationalities. But we all stand together, we are Russians. We are literate and educated. I do not write that I know supertiger21 as a private. I do not appeal to anyone, I do not seek a roof and do not need it. I challenge you, Semites.
              1. 0
                2 February 2014 16: 02
                Quote: T-73
                Am I a Nazi? No dear. You played too much, and not even slightly.

                Ohh, no, you are not a Nazi - I agree with that, you are a dreamer with a touch of paranoid, for whom conspiracy theories oozing from the pages of the yellow press are a revelation from above. It’s a pity (for you) that reality just does not fit well with the world order you invented, although you won’t prove it, can you? wink
              2. 0
                2 February 2014 16: 15
                Quote: T-73
                I challenge you, Semites.
                laughing laughing laughing


          4. +8
            1 February 2014 12: 55
            Quote: atalef
            Understand what ? Thanks to Assad - what he did to Syria - we couldn't even dream


            Friend, you’ve already begun to talk completely. Thanks to Hilary, the Jewish lobby in the American government and American Alkaide. Assad then what does ??? Who is interested in what you dream about under the covers?
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          6. +2
            1 February 2014 19: 32
            I do not understand. Is this your personal whim, or national position? I am equal to all nationalities, but I'm sorry, any pig should have a limit. You wish death to all Syrians, think better about the opposite ...
          7. 120352
            +1
            1 February 2014 23: 39
            The war will end a week after the well-known sponsors do not pay their salaries to their mercenaries and stop providing them with food, ammunition and equipment. And for this a good hacker attack is needed, it is known to whom to reset bank accounts. In principle, all wars of the near future will end in this way. And they will be conducted precisely on the path of seeking access to accounts, on the one hand, and on the path of seeking opposition to these searches. Like that. So the wars are gradually transferred to the banking sector. And since money today is not related to their material support (remember the US public debt and the ongoing work of the printing press), the victory will still be for those who steal the enemy press.
        2. +1
          1 February 2014 19: 01
          There are no elections in Syria. To make the Sunni vote for the Alawite? Believe me, it’s easier to shoot the Sunni than to force him to vote for Alavite)) Valentin, you don’t know the relationship between the religious movements of Islam, and you don’t know the truth of things in Syria)) you’re so sure that Assad will win the election.
          1. 0
            2 February 2014 14: 35
            Quote: lonely
            Believe me, it’s easier to shoot a Sunni than to make him vote for Alavit

            We are not looking for easy ways
            1. +1
              2 February 2014 14: 41
              )) although the easy way is always somewhere nearby)) You may ask: will you fly from Moscow to Kaliningrad via Vladivostok? Think about it
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      3. Alex_Popovson
        -5
        1 February 2014 10: 08
        atalef very correctly noticed everything. The only thing is that two things are completely incomprehensible:
        1) who will tackle his murder now?
        2) where does this idea come from, saying that Asadych is not ready for the election?
        1. -11
          1 February 2014 10: 31
          Quote: Alex_Popovson
          where does this idea come from, saying Asadych is not ready for the election?

          Yes, everything is very simple. He didn’t even hold elections in normal times-- so a referendum. And now . with the Sunni majority. Conducting elections now - that in parliament, that in presidency - this is the end of Assad and the entire Alavite elite.
          Is not it clear.
          1. Alex_Popovson
            0
            1 February 2014 10: 38
            But for sure. But I think, now on the contrary, his hands are untied, and therefore, if he even calls himself Khalifa, his minorities will support him that way, but alas, this will not affect the course of the war
          2. +4
            1 February 2014 11: 11
            Elections during the war are not held.
            1. -1
              1 February 2014 11: 29
              Quote: agbykov
              Elections during the war are not held.

              of course. but the announcement of the elections is stopping her.
              1. +5
                1 February 2014 12: 54
                Quote: atalef
                but the announcement of the elections is stopping her.

                Are you serious? -I thought the Jews were smart
                1. -2
                  1 February 2014 12: 59
                  Quote: old rocket
                  Quote: atalef
                  but the announcement of the elections is stopping her.

                  Are you serious? -I thought the Jews were smart

                  Well, actually you never thought so. laughing
                  1. +6
                    1 February 2014 14: 44
                    Quote: atalef
                    Well, actually you never thought so


                    Yes, I thought, it’s just that your mind is burdened with suspiciousness, national arrogance and natural pettiness negative
              2. +4
                1 February 2014 12: 59
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: agbykov
                Elections during the war are not held.

                of course. but the announcement of the elections is stopping her.


                Oops! Nuka, stop the terrorist war, come on, come on. Now, if he stops, then I’ll be holding a bastard.
          3. +3
            1 February 2014 16: 41
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Alex_Popovson
            where does this idea come from, saying Asadych is not ready for the election?

            Yes, everything is very simple. He didn’t even hold elections in normal times-- so a referendum. And now . with the Sunni majority. Conducting elections now - that in parliament, that in presidency - this is the end of Assad and the entire Alavite elite.
            Is not it clear.

            So what is the problem then, that the opposition is running from the idea of ​​elections? What insidious Assad - goes to Geneva with this proposal, he wants to deceive.
            1. -2
              1 February 2014 17: 30
              Quote: poquello
              So what is the problem then, that the opposition is running from the idea of ​​elections?

              if you recall. then the whole mess began precisely because of Assad’s refusal to hold elections + the most difficult demographic situation + the 10th drought. The peasants rushed to the cities, and there the Alawites did not have any prospects. Elections could smooth the situation. but Assad got scared. Go back 3 years ago
              Read - a very interesting analysis of the situation.
              http://pavel-sviridov.livejournal.com/176540.html

              Quote: poquello
              What insidious Assad - goes to Geneva with this proposal, he wants to deceive.

              Do not wishful thinking - Assad did not propose holding elections.
              1. +2
                1 February 2014 21: 26
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: poquello
                So what is the problem then, that the opposition is running from the idea of ​​elections?

                if you recall. then the whole mess began precisely because of Assad’s refusal to hold elections + the most difficult demographic situation + the 10th drought. The peasants rushed to the cities, and there the Alawites did not have any prospects. Elections could smooth the situation. but Assad got scared. Go back 3 years ago
                Read - a very interesting analysis of the situation.
                http://pavel-sviridov.livejournal.com/176540.html

                Quote: poquello
                What insidious Assad - goes to Geneva with this proposal, he wants to deceive.

                Do not wishful thinking - Assad did not propose holding elections.

                But I do not need to remember, the mess was initiated with the demand for the immediate departure of Assad, and the opposition’s puppet masters obviously did not like the plan for the gradual transition. It's about then
                That's about now
                Assad’s government considers security and stability, the fight against terrorism, the expulsion of foreign terrorists and free elections to be a priority on this forum.

                http://rukavkaz.ru/articles/comments/4355/
                Probably I don’t get the news from you and I looked who came with what, but you can say a lot - the British got hold of Assad's financing of terrorists in Syria, but they would believe them.
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      4. Patriot23
        +2
        1 February 2014 10: 58
        Do you think that the government should negotiate with the interventionists? track down from a satellite and bomb all terrorists with precision missile strikes!
        1. -4
          1 February 2014 11: 04
          Quote: Patriot23
          track down from a satellite and bomb all terrorists with precision missile strikes!

          Have you already returned from about school? Did you do your homework?
          1. +6
            1 February 2014 13: 00
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Patriot23
            track down from a satellite and bomb all terrorists with precision missile strikes!

            Have you already returned from about school? Did you do your homework?


            The An-Nusra Front blew up my school so I have a vacation.
      5. Patriot23
        +3
        1 February 2014 10: 58
        Do you think that the government should negotiate with the interventionists? track down from a satellite and bomb all terrorists with precision missile strikes!
      6. +6
        1 February 2014 12: 52
        Quote: atalef
        If Assad is removed, to all Alawites in Syria well, if not the end, then it’s close to this, and the Sunnis will never agree with Assad as the president, the best option is to hold elections, but Assad is not ready for this, so they will still be at war long war then civil, and even with a religious bias


        Something here is not glued. If the Sunni majority is against Assad, why then does the war have a clearly expressed terrorist character? Why is the Sunni majority simply using the majority not refusing to obey the presidential power and peacefully seizing the actual power, and then the legitimate one? Why are hostilities conducted only in settlements occupied by bearded democrats? Why is finally the terrorists supported by America and all kinds of Saudis there ??

        In my opinion, the brain replaced you with propoganda.
        1. -5
          1 February 2014 13: 11
          Quote: Geisenberg
          Something here is not glued. If the Sunni majority is against Assad, why then does the war have a clearly expressed terrorist character?

          You can understand. which means a pronounced terrorist -. Civil war - there is no front. Everyone is fighting as best he can. with whom can and pursues his personal goals

          Quote: Geisenberg
          Why is the Sunni majority simply using the majority not refusing to obey the presidential power and peacefully seizing the actual power, and then the legitimate

          They are trying. therefore, the war is on. Alavites the same 3 million. while holding on. losing the war is the end and humiliation of the entire Alawite community - they understand this very well. all their privileges will end.

          Quote: Geisenberg
          Why are hostilities conducted only in settlements occupied by bearded democrats?

          ? The fighting goes along the borders of the enclaves. Look at the map - the residence of the Alawites - and where they are fighting. Specifically along the borders of the Sunni Alavites.

          Quote: Geisenberg
          Why is finally the terrorists supported by America and all kinds of Saudis there ??

          because everyone has their own goals - really it’s not clear. Why did Russia support Abkhazia and Ossetia?
          1. +2
            1 February 2014 14: 06
            atalef]
            and that Syria was part of Saudi Arabia or Qatar or the United States you think before you write.
            1. -2
              1 February 2014 14: 13
              Quote: Dmitry
              atalef]
              and that Syria was part of Saudi Arabia or Qatar or the United States you think before you write.

              I do not understand the question ?
              1. -1
                2 February 2014 05: 35
                you don’t understand much there.
          2. +1
            1 February 2014 14: 22
            Dear Alexander! I have a question for you. And you in Israel are not afraid of the policy of "controlled chaos" unleashed around the world and in particular at your borders, by your overseas patron? Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria, how much can you? And the fact that the civil war in Syria will eventually turn against your tiny country? After all, the Arabs will fight, grow wiser and .... will look for someone to blame! They are unlikely to get across the ocean, guess who is to blame ?!
            1. +2
              1 February 2014 14: 37
              Quote: edeligor
              I have a question for you. Are you in Israel not afraid of the policy of "controlled chaos" unleashed around the world and in particular at your borders, by your overseas patron?

              In general, few people have done anything more stupid than BV on the BV (well, maybe only the USSR - and even for a long time)
              Obama does not understand anything in the realities of the BV - but nothing the IDF - all hope for him
              Quote: edeligor
              Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria as much as possible?

              If you are trying to understand the realities, then I would exclude Libya and Egypt from this list, and I left Syria with an interference.
              Europe and the Saudis in Syria and Libya played the main violin. in Egypt, everything has already returned to normal. Muslim Brothers, Sisi Will Choke
              Quote: edeligor
              And the fact that the civil war in Syria will turn, in the end, against your tiny country?

              Hardly . Banduks will not climb. maybe pulnut one or two. We then crush them. For 3 years there were no serious incidents - today there are no prerequisites. that something will happen in the near future. And trouble must be experienced as they arrive

              Quote: edeligor
              After all, the Arabs will fight, grow wiser and .... will begin to look for the guilty

              Well, they found the guilty for a long time, but they will fight - well, they fought more than once. why should something change?
              Get wiser --- not in this century laughing
              Quote: edeligor
              They are unlikely to get across the ocean, guess who will be to blame ?!

              What to guess - of course we are. like 60 years ago. Nothing changes
              Best regards hi
              1. +4
                1 February 2014 14: 56
                Thank. You are an optimist. If you are all there, then Israel is not in danger. Sincerely.
                1. +2
                  1 February 2014 14: 59
                  Quote: edeligor
                  Thank. You are an optimist. If you are all there, then Israel is not in danger. Yours faithfully

                  In general, it threatens, well, I'm far from being an optimist. I'm realist.
                  Best regards hi
        2. Alex_Popovson
          +2
          1 February 2014 13: 32
          If the Sunni majority is against Assad, why then does the war have a clearly expressed terrorist character?

          Isn’t it that patients even in Dagestan, even in Syria fight the same way, Islam-Allah-bah-bah?
          Why is finally the terrorists supported by America and all kinds of Saudis there ??
          And why did America always ally with the undemocratic monarchy of Saudi Arabia, why did they help the Taliban to win against the USSR?
          Why are hostilities conducted only in settlements occupied by bearded democrats?

          "The administrative structure of Syria" is read and penetrated.
          1. +2
            1 February 2014 15: 12
            Quote: Alex_Popovson
            Isn’t it that patients even in Dagestan, even in Syria fight the same way, Islam-Allah-bah-bah?

            The bastard ducks will not understand this until these bearded ones come to their home to establish Sharia laughing Such is the nature of idealists — they are not friends with logic and reality — it is too complicated, but they live in their own imaginary world, simplified to primitive. fellow
          2. +2
            1 February 2014 17: 18
            Quote: Alex_Popovson
            And why did America always ally with the undemocratic monarchy of Saudi Arabia, why did they help the Taliban to win against the USSR?


            It was not the Taliban who fought against the USSR, but those who today have power in Afghanistan.
            appeared after the withdrawal of troops.
      7. 0
        1 February 2014 19: 54
        No negotiations with the terrorists.
        Then the war will never end
        Therefore, Israel will always be at war
        1. +1
          1 February 2014 22: 16
          Quote: galser
          No negotiations with the terrorists.
          Then the war will never end
          Therefore, Israel will always be at war

          AND? We are already used to it, and by the way, walking along the streets at midnight is much safer than yours (or even in Europe), I think this is a serious indicator. request
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    3. +1
      1 February 2014 10: 04
      None of this performance will come out good ... meaningless delaying time ...
      1. +2
        1 February 2014 15: 20
        Quote: Civil
        None of this performance will come out good ... meaningless delaying time ...

        Of course it won’t work out, the opposition delegation in Geneva is a farce, no matter what they decide and not stipulate, the war will continue, because this opposition has no control over anything for a long time, and nothing is decided. The same an-nursa, al-Qaida or ISIS wanted to spit on the negotiations in Geneva - they want the caliphate in a medieval manner, and they won’t lay down their arms because of some litmus test they signed ENEMIES. request
    4. +10
      1 February 2014 10: 50
      I already said, but here I repeat: Geneva-2 is a well-staged performance for the public. From the very beginning it was clear that the opposition, led by its sponsors, would not enter into any negotiations with Assad, nor would Assad with the opposition. The United States just wants to show that they say, see how we want peace. Yes nifiga! The US Congress is already preparing new documents stating that Assad has biological weapons. B ..., there are not enough words. Health and strength to Lavrov, he needs it now more than ever, otherwise we will lose the second round in Syria! hi
      1. -4
        1 February 2014 11: 11
        Quote: major071
        I already said, but here I repeat: Geneva-2 is a well-staged performance for the public.

        And both sides
        You forget. that the organizers of Geneva are -2 Russia and the USA.

        Quote: major071
        and. From the very beginning, it was clear that the opposition, led by its sponsors, would not enter into any negotiations with Assad, just as Assad and the opposition

        Well of course. Remember what reaction in the Russian Foreign Ministry (on the eve of Geneva-2) caused Assad's interview where he said. that he’s not going to give up power and will go to the polls.
        The reaction of the Russian Foreign Ministry was somewhat perplexed and from that moment it was clear. that Geneva -2 is doomed to failure
        Quote: major071
        The United States just wants to show that they say, see how we want peace. Yes nifiga!

        Russia . the same one of the organizers of Geneva -2. And I still think. that in many respects the positions of the USA and Russia on this issue are very close

        Quote: major071
        The US Congress is already preparing new documents stating that Assad has biological weapons.

        The US Congress is the same circus - as the Russian parliament - in the USA the same has its own Zhirinovsky, Zyuganov and other clowns. No need to take all their declarations seriously
        Quote: major071
        Lavrov’s health and strength, he needs it now more than ever, otherwise we will lose the second round in Syria!

        health without any binding because Geneva2 is doomed to failure initially. Until Assad gives at least a hint. that he is ready to leave (only he, in the end Assad - this is not all Syria) --- there will be no progress.
        1. +1
          1 February 2014 13: 02
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: major071
          I already said, but here I repeat: Geneva-2 is a well-staged performance for the public.

          And both sides
          You forget. that the organizers of Geneva are -2 Russia and the USA.


          Oh well now we are all calm. Now it’s clear why it’s impossible to agree with the terrorists.
        2. -1
          2 February 2014 05: 44
          and in the Knesset are some smart Jews or Arabs also stupid like Russians and Americans?
      2. +3
        1 February 2014 11: 33
        Quote: major071
        ... the United States just wants to show that they say, look how we want peace ....

        Generally, Geneva-2 is our brainchild. The United States was initially against its implementation, since believed, believe and will believe that there is nothing to negotiate with the Assad regime, it must be bombed and destroyed. And they are doing everything in order to disrupt the negotiations and take up arms. Our plan is to bring the Syrian warring parties to the negotiating table and force them to discuss mutual claims, and stop the bloodshed, to end this bloody feast of al-Qaeda. Stop talking with weapons. And force external "assistants" to leave Syria and refuse to intervene in the purely internal Syrian confrontation, exclude the possibility of intervention by NATO forces, try to stop further destabilization of the region. in my opinion, something like this.
        1. +6
          1 February 2014 12: 09
          Geneva-2 is of course the initiative of Russia, but it’s ridiculous to even think that the US has not thought through its behavior in advance, especially since the Qatari and Saudi lobby in the USA also dictate their conditions. Nobody will allow the United States to lose the second round in Syria, it will be a complete failure of the Obama administration. In the West, no one wants to strengthen Russia and increase its political influence. Therefore, I will stick to my opinion that nothing good will come of it. hi
          1. +2
            1 February 2014 12: 29
            Quote: major071
            Nobody will allow the United States to lose the second round in Syria ...

            Did anyone win the first round? As there was an insurmountable wall in the relations of the opposing forces in Syria, so it is. As the United States was opponents of any relations with the Assad administration, so they stand on that, and they also "add fuel to the fire" with the next delusional and false intelligence, as before, they are politically on the side of the bandits and financially support them. Qatar, Saudis? Yes, they are only for the military overthrow of Assad and the destruction of Syria, which does not contradict the aspirations of the United States, they, the United States, are now only more careful in their statements about their alleged military intervention. So there is no peace, the war is going on, people are dying ... hi
      3. 0
        1 February 2014 15: 23
        Quote: major071
        From the very beginning it was clear that the opposition, led by its sponsors, would not go into any negotiations with Assad

        It doesn’t matter whether they go or not, the opposition has long been out of work, the ball of war is driven by al-Qaida and fanatics, and it is useless to negotiate with them. request
    5. +2
      1 February 2014 12: 46
      Quote: ZU-23
      Still such a picture, well, the states will start a war there, we will naturally get involved, but that as a result, the Americans will sing to their citizens in America, in general, they found themselves specific adventures on the ass.


      The fact that Putin and Assad launched an aggression against world democracy and led the Alkaida right up to the Mondis in their beards. What is incomprehensible then?

      The only thing that will stop the Americans now is if all this bearded brother is suddenly in Washington and the Shariah is established there.
      1. 0
        1 February 2014 13: 11
        I read the article, and I got the feeling that somewhere I already read it. I won’t touch on what is written there. I’ll put this here better

        laughing
    6. Ahmed
      -4
      1 February 2014 15: 12
      I agree, but nothing will change from empty words on the part of Russia. We must act! And first of all, to understand domestic and foreign policy. You just need to give a damn about any threats and critics (from the USA, Great Britain, France, Israel, etc.). But at the same time, order should be put in place in our country. How we descended!
  2. soldat1945
    +4
    1 February 2014 08: 49
    In general, the prospects for this conference are not entirely clear. The Syrian opposition is too motley and the main striking force in it is the Islamists who have all these conferences a damn thing, let's hope that a temporary truce will allow Assad to gather forces to cause maximum damage to all this abomination!
    1. ICT
      +1
      1 February 2014 10: 17
      Quote: soldat1945
      Assad muster his strength to inflict maximum damage on all this abomination!


      the prospects of the "war" itself are also not clear
      1, on the one hand, is dying stupidly, which even they really cannot shoot from around the corner, but the number of people who want to lift the fallen machine tends to infinity.

      2, like literate guys, are fighting with the other, but while the war was going on, they could not even clear the suburbs of Damascus, but I still don’t understand this
      therefore, if the (economic) recharge of this war persists, then the country disappears from the world map,

      hence the conclusion our pancreas won the first round of this war did not allow foreign intervention
      we must not stop there and convince the "partners" to stop supplying the opposition.

      something like this , request
    2. +2
      1 February 2014 15: 30
      Quote: soldat1945
      In general, the prospects for this conference are not entirely clear. The Syrian opposition is too motley and the main striking force in it is represented by the Islamists who all these conferences

      Well, although one adequate person was found, this is exactly what I'm trying to reach out to people, a conference in Geneva NOTHING doesn’t decide, even if they begin to confess to each other in brotherly love there. good
      1. 0
        2 February 2014 01: 18
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Quote: soldat1945
        In general, the prospects for this conference are not entirely clear. The Syrian opposition is too motley and the main striking force in it is represented by the Islamists who all these conferences

        Well, although one adequate person was found, this is exactly what I'm trying to reach out to people, a conference in Geneva NOTHING doesn’t decide, even if they begin to confess to each other in brotherly love there. good


        Ha ha ha Even as decides. Imagine, hypothetically, imagine that at the end of the conference, the UN adopts a resolution obliging, under pain of destruction, not to support the militants in the SAR. Now imagine that everyone will implement this resolution. So it decides how, but not in our favor.
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  3. +3
    1 February 2014 08: 57
    And again the Americans! Instead of fighting terrorists, they multiply them and incite them to a legitimate government - this is the "Arab Spring". In the case of Syria, they had a "hitch", it came to an international conference, but for them this "all is God's dew." Openly, at the international forum, they stand on the side of those with whom they promised to fight - the most intimate demarche.
    1. 0
      1 February 2014 09: 26
      Brzezinski said in an interview that the Russians can in return make the same mess in any country, there is money for that.
      1. +7
        1 February 2014 10: 47
        Quote: Dmitry
        Brzezinski said in an interview that the Russians can in return make the same mess in any country, there is money for that.

        In general, that which is not normal is going on in the minds. Constantly quote (allegedly) two people from Bismarck and Brzezinski.
        One is not alive. second old senile.
        And lead without reference to the original text or elementary link to the document
        Half, if not more of these * quotes * are nothing more than the fiction of the writers themselves. Well, God be with this - one is not clear. if Bismarck is still like that, Brzezinski has since become an unquestioned authority?
        1. -3
          1 February 2014 13: 57
          I am not asking for your opinion, but stating the fact of this statement by a sworn friend of Russia.
  4. +3
    1 February 2014 09: 27
    they couldn’t bombard with chemistry, now they’ve started to biological, it can be assumed that there will be anthrax, which was taken from the island of Renaissance
    1. +3
      1 February 2014 12: 35
      Quote: saag
      they couldn’t bombard with chemistry, now they’ve started to biological, it can be assumed that there will be anthrax, which was taken from the island of Renaissance


      Oh don’t say you are absolutely right! drinks Soon the Yankees and nuclear weapons will be found in Syria) But does this not remind you of the story of 11 years ago?
  5. +2
    1 February 2014 09: 37
    I wonder what n and dor minus the article?
    Liberasts rule?
    1. +3
      1 February 2014 12: 03
      Quote: Consul-t
      Liberasts rule?
      Look at the color of the numbers indicating the rating of the comments and everything will become clear to you.
    2. +1
      1 February 2014 13: 08
      Quote: Consul-t
      I wonder what n and dor minus the article?
      Liberasts rule?


      I can tell you, atalef, igor67, there is one more, but I'm not sure about it hi
  6. Azaat
    +2
    1 February 2014 09: 57
    I'm afraid to become a seer. But the Syrian war is needed only by Washington and Doha. And the dream of a truce, as it is not strange, lies in the parliamentary republic of Syria, and not the presidential, like Egypt.
  7. Salamander
    +8
    1 February 2014 10: 02
    Yes, the "Syrian opposition" did not wear a mask, the Western media are unsuccessfully trying to put this item on it. The smell of oil clouded the already drunk brains of our "partners". They are ready for anything to swim in IT ...
    1. -1
      1 February 2014 10: 59
      Quote: Salamander
      The smell of oil clouded the already drunk brains of our "partners". They are ready for anything to swim in IT ...

      in general, in Syria, oil is just a pity. This is probably why no one has actively climbed there yet.
      1. Alex_Popovson
        +5
        1 February 2014 12: 55
        Pipes of Adnak Harasho lead through Syria. And Syria, if you look at the map, is very well located - the Mediterranean Sea, Turkey, Israel, Jordan, Iraq. Geographical location also takes place. Well, by the way, remember how Afghanistan lies in Central Asia? How - very convenient - read in the very center, and even the borders with almost all the key players in Asia as a whole.
      2. 0
        2 February 2014 05: 52
        they do not need oil in Syria, they need territory for laying pipelines to Europe.
        1. 0
          2 February 2014 16: 02
          Quote: Dmitry
          they do not need oil in Syria, they need territory for laying pipelines to Europe.

          Who needs it? You probably don’t understand that pipelines will come to Europe anyway. who would not win. Assad will remain - Iranian will come (the contract has already been concluded), Assad will fall - Qatari will come.
          That one, that the other is not ice for Gazprom request
          1. 0
            2 February 2014 17: 48
            don't say gop until you jump over.
  8. +4
    1 February 2014 10: 24
    In Syria, everything is unchanged - death rejoices in new victims.

    In the video, the jackals executed the Syrian soldier - he died heroically, was not afraid of death.
    1. Yaroslav
      +2
      1 February 2014 10: 55
      Quote: The same Lech
      In the video, jackals execute a Syrian soldier - died heroically did not fear death


      You should understand that this kind of video should not be uploaded to this site. It is a violent death, not a sight. I wish you to understand this issue and watch less such a video!
      1. +1
        1 February 2014 11: 02
        Quote: Yaroslav
        Quote: The same Lech
        In the video, jackals execute a Syrian soldier - died heroically did not fear death


        You should understand that this kind of video should not be uploaded to this site. It is a violent death, not a sight. I wish you to understand this issue and watch less such a video!

        You are absolutely right in this, it’s not fun and there’s nothing for such videos to do on the site. as claimed. that this is a soldier. died heroically. No one knows who it is. Maybe this is a SSA fighter, but they will execute him from Al-Nusra - therefore, I think. it would be right if the moderators removed such husk.
        1. +2
          1 February 2014 11: 12
          ALEXANDER "this is not razvlekuha" -if this is your razvlekuha, then you are looking at it like that.

          And as to whether it can or cannot, of course I was not there, and I can’t provide the names of the executioners.
          1. -7
            1 February 2014 11: 33
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            ALEXANDER "this is not razvlekuha" -if this is your razvlekuha, then you are looking at it like that.

            what do you think? Confirmation of what? In general (in my understanding) there are limits to what is permitted. how can one expose photographs of the dead 9, especially children) - all these people have relatives and they did not give their consent to use their photos. and scenes of extreme cruelty - such as your video. Civilized people must have a framework. for which you can’t go.
            1. +4
              1 February 2014 11: 44
              what do you think?

              Like what? - VIDEO DOCUMENT - for the HAGUE TRIBUNAL - AUUUUU where is he?


              That you, as a child, took a person’s life and no one asked him whether he wants it or not — AND WE ARE THE ONLY ITS LAWYERS in this world.

              How are you still going to deal with lawlessness — your TOLERANT METHODS — thanks !!! IN CHECHNYA, our people have choked on this very unbearable.

              And yet, how do you civilize your terrorists? -He heh

              according to the results of YOUR CIVILIZED SPECIAL OPERATIONS, YOU WILL NOT SAY THIS (sometimes blood as in a horror movie).
              1. -5
                1 February 2014 11: 57
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                what do you think?

                Like what? - VIDEO DOCUMENT - for the HAGUE TRIBUNAL - AUUUUU where is he?

                document of what?

                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                That you, as a child, took a person’s life and no one asked him whether he wants it or not — AND WE ARE THE ONLY ITS LAWYERS in this world.

                Do you know what kind of person this is. Well, of course you want to be his lawyer - please. Only. no matter what happens later. that someone shot a pedophile. and they gave him away for some sort of fighter. Do not rush to record yourself in lawyers - after viewing 50 sec. roller. Reality may be reversed.

                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                And yet, how do you civilize your terrorists? -He heh

                Like all normal countries. Who are we killing. whom to jail.
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                according to the results of YOUR CIVILIZED SPECIAL OPERATIONS, YOU WILL NOT SAY THIS (sometimes blood as in a horror movie).

                Throw me a personal video. you have a lot of them, I hope .. Otherwise, we love rushing with words. and confirmations as always zilch.
                1. +2
                  1 February 2014 12: 16
                  document of what?
                  Extrajudicial reprisal, hehe hehe like to speak in the West.
                  Do you know what kind of person this is
                  No, of course, and you understand this very well - no one authorized me to conduct an investigation
                  Like all normal countries. Who are we killing. whom to jail.
                  Well, what kind of civilization is it (civilization, in principle, does not imply the killing of people — just say it all — we have a license to kill)
                  Throw me in a personal video -ALEXANDER are you really offended, I did not set as my goal to collect dirt on the special operations of your special services, therefore I will not dump anything.
                  I am only expressing my opinion on this problem (cruel videos) - well, actually you are interested in the idea of ​​collecting a video or a photo of the results of special operations of your special services, believe the Palestinians and hezbollah with Hamas sometimes post them.
            2. SSR
              0
              1 February 2014 16: 26
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              ALEXANDER "this is not razvlekuha" -if this is your razvlekuha, then you are looking at it like that.

              what do you think? Confirmation of what? In general (in my understanding) there are limits to what is permitted. how can one expose photographs of the dead 9, especially children) - all these people have relatives and they did not give their consent to use their photos. and scenes of extreme cruelty - such as your video. Civilized people must have a framework. for which you can’t go.

              Atalef, do not be offended, but the last sentence is so far from the state of Israel.
              1. +1
                1 February 2014 16: 35
                Quote from S.S.R.
                Atalef, do not be offended, but the last sentence is so far from the state of Israel.

                A novel. maybe I will surprise you. but nowhere. never in print or on TV in Israel you will not see the dead (with open faces). especially murder scenes - just never.
                They will never show people (especially children) with open faces (if only this particular child is not an object of reporting)
                It just can't be. if a photograph (even a retouched one or a movie) is difficult to view, be sure to warn. that a photo or video is hard to watch (to give time to susceptible people to switch on or off the TV)
                Never in any News you will see corpses in pools of blood. Just never.
                And it is right .
      2. +2
        1 February 2014 11: 09
        Yaroslav-I understand your view, cruelty repels you, but these are our future opponents.


        I’m not going to spread it, but I’ll have to watch at least to prevent us from being shot by any democratizer-reformers. )
      3. +4
        1 February 2014 12: 42
        Quote: Yaroslav
        You should understand that this kind of video should not be uploaded to this site. It is a violent death, not a sight. I wish you to understand this issue and watch less such a video!


        Let everyone know that the militants are animals, not "liberators." If Assad wins, then it will be necessary to erect monuments to the heroically killed soldiers of the Syrian government army.
      4. +11
        1 February 2014 12: 55
        Such videos should be present on the Military website, they clean their brains, they force fighters to learn, not to get full, but also have the skills to deal with superior forces .....
        A special forces soldier, I would have turned out of this situation, I often showed how Chechens slaughter Slav fighters, I have videos where the intestines of people (women and children) are wound on the fence, then you don’t remember about motivation during exhausting training - everyone trains , understand why, - it’s necessary to exterminate human-shaped animals with animal DNA .....
        It also makes me jump out of bed every morning, drag dumbbells, run, throw knives, etc., etc. .....

        Well, the real Beasts are bankers, financiers who pay for gangs (a little penny)) and politicians (big)) then TE shake them with test tubes in front of the media (also paid), where the chief editor, representatives of one nation usually work ..... with the beast DNA, but saying that God so commands them (amon))
        Adults (military)) People need to show EVERYTHING, an objective picture of the world, otherwise their Children will not only look at IT, but also participate ....
        Do not touch the moderators.
  9. vadutc
    +2
    1 February 2014 11: 05
    But what the heck is Geneva, as an opposition, they were invited to the negotiating table, well, in general, a scribe, and there they had to be caught. some monkeys are not educated and on a rock. pah!
  10. +6
    1 February 2014 11: 12
    There are two polar points of view regarding showing or not showing cruelty.

    Euromen forbid children to play soldiers - cruel and base. The result is obvious - their citizens easily participate in military campaigns to "promote democracy" and "humanize peoples and states."

    In 1941, young pilots were taken to the territories recaptured from the Germans. The mass graves of executed Soviet people were excavated there.
    Young men stood on a dump. looked at the lying children. women ... and cried. And then they fought with the Nazis to death, fought mercilessly, with genuine hatred for subhuman.

    If at the cost of showing cruel schemes it is possible to keep young people from betraying the human nature, I am for cruelty.
  11. -5
    1 February 2014 11: 23
    Quote: Sergey S.
    European people forbid children to play soldiers - cruelly and basely.

    What stupid thing?

    Quote: Sergey S.
    In 1941, young pilots were taken to the territories recaptured from the Germans. The mass graves of executed Soviet people were excavated there.
    Young men stood on a dump. looked at the lying children. women ... and cried. And then they fought with the Nazis to death, fought mercilessly, with genuine hatred for subhuman.

    Another nonsense

    Quote: Sergey S.
    If at the cost of showing cruel schemes it is possible to keep young people from betraying the human nature, I am for cruelty.

    In general, cruelty breeds cruelty. Let it show in Syria - why do we need it? If you think . that in order to combat rape, you need to play such scenes on TV - just don’t you find it stupid?
    What is not your day today wassat
    1. +2
      1 February 2014 11: 27
      . Let it show in Syria - why do we need it?


      Alexander here categorically disagrees with this, if only because I remember what happened in Chechnya in the 1990s and I DO NOT WANT TO RECEIVE A LIKE AGAIN WITH US.

      The deaths of our soldiers and women (I won’t spread the video) is even worse than what I spread according to SYRIA (take my word for it).
  12. +2
    1 February 2014 11: 31
    The end of the war is not visible. They run there like tauregs here and there with spears. Head as they say stick out, so the tail will be stuck. The forces are equal. It will last for years. Military assistance from Russia is clearly not sufficient at the moment.
  13. +2
    1 February 2014 12: 58
    America is ruled by the devil and the inhabitants of this country are Satanists who think that they serve God.
    1. 0
      1 February 2014 17: 43
      Quote: Farvil
      America is ruled by the devil and the inhabitants of this country are Satanists who think that they serve God.

      Pancake . you’ll be careful, otherwise I already see pentographies on the floor, blood oozing from the walls — I should go to bed in 5 hours and go to work tomorrow. You won’t fall asleep with your comments. wassat
  14. +3
    1 February 2014 13: 37
    Almost simultaneously with Hagel’s statement, the words of the representative of the American intelligence, James Clapper, who accused Syria ... of the manufacture of biological weapons, were heard. Speaking to the US Senate Intelligence Committee, he said: “According to our estimates, some elements of the military biological program could go quite far”

    This whole story with accusations about one or the other weapon resembles Krylov's fable "The Wolf and the Lamb".
    May the admins forgive me, I will give in full:

    "The strong is always to blame for the powerless:
    To that in History we hear the darkness of examples
    But we do not write stories;
    And here about how in Fables speak.

    ___

    On a hot day, the lamb went to the stream to get drunk;
    And I need to happen,
    What about those places hungry wolf Wolf.
    He sees the lamb, seeks prey;
    But, to give the case, although a legitimate view and sense,
    Shouts: "How dare you, insolent, with an unclean snout
    Here is a pure stir up drink
    My
    With sand and silt?
    For insolence
    I'll rip your head off. "
    "When the brightest Wolf allows,
    I dare to bring that down the stream
    From the lordship of his steps I drink a hundred;
    And he must be angry in vain:
    I can’t stir up a drink for him. "-
    "Therefore I lie!
    Worthless! I heard such impudence in the world!
    Yes, I remember that you are still in the summer before
    Here I was somehow rude:
    I have not forgotten this, buddy! "-
    "Have mercy, I am not a year old yet", -
    The lamb speaks. "So it was your brother."
    "I have no brothers." - "So this is a godfather il swat
    And, in a word, someone from your own family.
    You yourself, your dogs and your shepherds,
    You all want me to be evil
    And if you can, then you always harm me,
    But I’m with you for their divorced sins. "-
    “Ah, what am I to blame?” - “Be quiet! I'm tired of listening,
    Leisure me sort your fault, puppy!
    You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat. "
    He said, and dragged into the dark forest of the Lamb. "

    When the Americans already stop inventing and throw off the mask of hypocrisy ...
  15. +5
    1 February 2014 17: 21
    While some are fighting for the militants, while others are holding on to Assad, people are dying and the war continues. And slowly, all of Syria is slowly turning into a pile of ruins. If the war is not stopped, all parties concerned on both sides will be guilty. Of course, the Syrians themselves will be the first and foremost.
    1. +2
      1 February 2014 17: 53
      What do you specifically propose to do to end the war in Syria?
      1. 0
        1 February 2014 18: 05
        If only someone knew. Syria wick - and someone is looking at him, someone is inflating, someone is trying to put out. Even if someone knows, it will be difficult for him to squeeze through the crowd of interested people. It is enough to leave Syria alone.
        Quote: lonely
        all interested parties on both sides will be guilty. Of course, first of all, the Syrians themselves
        - these of course must be guilty themselves, that
        Quote: supertiger21
        die and the war continues
      2. 0
        1 February 2014 18: 16
        Anyway, the Ba'ath Party should leave the government. At the same time, guarantees must be obtained that Syria as a state will remain integral and secular. Strong guarantees must be received that there will be no national or religious persecution. Then I am sure that all those who are against jihadists will join forces and destroy jihadists. There is no other way.
        1. -1
          1 February 2014 18: 45
          Quote: lonely
          Anyone interested in the Ba'ath Party should step down from power

          This is unambiguous. in general, nowhere are the Baathists left

          Quote: lonely
          . At the same time, guarantees must be received that Syria as a state will remain integral and secular

          Omar. who will give them

          Quote: lonely
          . Then I’m sure that all those who are against jihadists will join forces and destroy jihadists. There is no other way.

          it is real, I think. only with the introduction of peacekeeping forces. they themselves will not be ruined. hi
        2. +3
          1 February 2014 19: 18
          Quote: lonely
          Anyway

          To love - how is it? Democratically again? Those. with bombs, Molotov cocktails, snipers and terror?
          Quote: lonely
          guarantees must be received that Syria as a state will remain holistic and secular

          from whom? from Islamic radicals? or from Assad?
          Quote: lonely
          Then I’m sure that all those who are against jihadists will join forces and destroy jihadists. There is no other way.

          Out
          Quote: lonely
          strong guarantees must be obtained that there will be no national or religious persecution

          Control shot. Who will give any security guarantees to the same Christians in Syria, except for Assad? Who if there is no power? Tell me, kind person, do not keep to yourself. "To love", damn it. And everything will be fine there, or not ... But I wanted to ...
          1. -1
            1 February 2014 19: 39
            moderate guarantees that are not related to jihadists can give guarantees. Just the majority of those who read such articles only think that there are terrorists and that’s all. .That I mean, not Alkaedovites
            1. 0
              2 February 2014 06: 10
              yeah, and began to use weapons against most who did not protest.
            2. +1
              2 February 2014 12: 40
              Quote: lonely
              moderate who are not associated with jihadists

              Are they the driving force of the "revolution"? They will soon be put themselves, if not against the wall, then in front of a very small choice. And for some reason it seems to me that the boys played too much and HAVE PLAYED in democracy. They will go and bow to Assad, to atone for sins and to defend the country, not to destroy. That would be a really good choice. Or do they not see the "opposition" from the inside?
              Quote: lonely
              That's who I mean, not Alkaedovites
              and I
              the rest IMHO nonsense in your comment
              1. 0
                2 February 2014 12: 45
                It was the moderate who started the revolution, but the united political force that sat down to negotiate with the authorities in Geneva-2, these were the moderates. Once the authorities sat down to negotiate with them, de jure and de facto the authorities also recognize these forces. Don’t twist, it turns out like this. And judging by the negotiations to Assad, no one is going to bow, that's why the conference failed.

                And yet. Why, then, all those who write their thoughts that differ from your thoughts, you call them nonsense. Or maybe you are raving.
        3. +1
          2 February 2014 16: 41
          Quote: lonely
          warranties must be obtained

          This is where the big problem begins, even if (theoretically) it is possible to unearth someone who will give these guarantees - it’s far from the fact that he has the strength to fulfill them. request
          1. 0
            2 February 2014 16: 49
            Quote: And Us Rat
            This is where the big problem begins, even if (theoretically) it is possible to unearth someone who will give these guarantees - it’s far from the fact that he has the strength to fulfill them.


            And in order to be strong enough, guarantees should be given by both Assad and those moderate to the intermediaries who organized this booth called Geneva-2. After these guarantees, these will unite their forces and begin the destruction of jihadists. If anyone spits on their guarantees, then intermediaries let this side and understand.
            The plan is of course a good one, and Assad’s thirst for power is so strong that he is ready to destroy all the people of Syria so that he has this power. He is a tyrant in Antarctica, so the reason is only in him.
            1. +2
              2 February 2014 16: 53
              Quote: lonely
              And in order to be strong enough, guarantees should be given by both Assad and those moderate to the intermediaries who organized this booth called Geneva-2. After these guarantees, these will unite their forces and begin the destruction of jihadists. If anyone spits on their guarantees, then intermediaries let this side and understand.

              Unfortunately, this is an unattainable utopia. request
              1. +1
                2 February 2014 17: 05
                Quote: And Us Rat
                Unfortunately, this is an unattainable utopia.


                The intermediaries are just not interested in this. wink , and it’s quite a normal option
  16. +1
    1 February 2014 18: 38
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Sergey S.
    European people forbid children to play soldiers - cruelly and basely.

    What stupid thing?


    This is not stupid.
    This is the result of direct communication with a Caucasoid fool who did not allow children, soldiers, pistols, and other men's toys to give their children.
    She didn’t come up with this herself.
    Brought over the hill. And for a long time.
    And now they are trying to impose nonsense on us about the traumatized children's psyche: you can’t show a movie about the war - there is violence.
    Films about the war - 16+.
    At the discretion of parents, but in orphanages, schools, cinemas ...
    And all this nonsense was invented by the underdeveloped and envious from Europe.
    In 1945. themselves everywhere have shit. and now they are trying to wriggle out, that it happened not because of cowardice and meanness, but because they are fluffy ...
    1. -1
      1 February 2014 18: 49
      Quote: Sergey S.
      This is not stupid.
      This is the result of direct communication with a Caucasoid fool who did not allow children, soldiers, pistols, and other men's toys to give their children.

      they themselves said D.u.r.o.- in Europe, far from all of these

      Quote: Sergey S.
      men's toys.
      She didn’t come up with this herself.
      Brought over the hill. And for a long time.

      I’m even wondering what kind of men's toys she brought

      Quote: Sergey S.
      In 1945. themselves everywhere have shit. and now they are trying to wriggle out that it happened not because of cowardice and meanness, but because they are fluffy.

      what are you talking about About Germany or all of Europe.
      In general, they themselves understood. What did they write?
  17. 0
    1 February 2014 18: 48
    Quote: atalef

    Quote: Sergey S.
    In 1941, young pilots were taken to the territories recaptured from the Germans. The mass graves of executed Soviet people were excavated there.
    Young men stood on a dump. looked at the lying children. women ... and cried. And then they fought with the Nazis to death, fought mercilessly, with genuine hatred for subhuman.

    Another nonsense

    This is not nonsense.
    This is the true truth, which I heard from different old people several times.

    If exact instructions are needed, then from memory such an episode is in the memoirs of the pilot Hero of the Soviet Union Shevchuk.
    A similar episode, but with the hardships of the blockade of Leningrad. in the film "Baltic Sky".
    In almost every book of partisan memoirs - something like that. as an explanation of the cause of the mass popular war.
    And also E. Klimov's film "Come and See" with terrible episodes that give rise to rage, hatred and annoyance in normal hearts that today it is impossible to destroy those Euro-people again ...
  18. +2
    1 February 2014 18: 55
    Quote: atalef

    Quote: Sergey S.
    If at the cost of showing cruel schemes it is possible to keep young people from betraying the human nature, I am for cruelty.

    In general, cruelty breeds cruelty. Let it show in Syria - why do we need it? If you think . that in order to combat rape, you need to play such scenes on TV - just don’t you find it stupid?
    What is not your day today wassat

    This is how to look.
    I agree that cruelty breeds cruelty equally, other things being equal.

    But cruelty begets cruel retribution when OUR BUSINESS IS RIGHT.
    And we don’t have to teach our people how to LOVE HOMELAND,

    And if in almost every one of us today the war against the peoples of Syria is pained, then this means a war on the threshold of our home.

    Regarding rape, the issue is special.
    Here is not so much cruelty as mental distortion and base voluptuousness.
    You can’t show them, but the eyes of the victims can.

    For a long time, since 1991, every day is not mine, but ka Sam.
  19. +1
    1 February 2014 18: 58
    Quote: lonely
    Anyway, the Ba'ath Party should leave the government. At the same time, guarantees must be obtained that Syria as a state will remain integral and secular. Strong guarantees must be received that there will be no national or religious persecution. Then I am sure that all those who are against jihadists will join forces and destroy jihadists. There is no other way.

    And I would send Chinese, Cuban and North Korean troops to Syria.
    After that, a just peace would ensue throughout the region.
    But Bashar al-Assad successfully restored the country ...
    1. 0
      1 February 2014 19: 10
      Do you think this is a way out? Do you think Assad is clean as a white sheet in all this mess? Your methods, on the contrary, will lead to the fact that the war there will continue indefinitely.
    2. 0
      2 February 2014 21: 29
      Quote: Sergey S.
      And I would send Chinese, Cuban and North Korean troops to Syria

      But the Russians are not?
  20. +2
    1 February 2014 19: 16
    Quote: lonely
    Do you think this is a way out? Do you think Assad is clean as a white sheet in all this mess? Your methods, on the contrary, will lead to the fact that the war there will continue indefinitely.

    If the opponents of Assad win, the war will go for a walk in other countries.

    It was not worth withdrawing troops from Afghanistan.
    The arsonists had to be extinguished in the bud, and if war was better in one place and without microfail.
    But Gorbachev was a wimp ...
  21. 0
    1 February 2014 19: 21
    Quote: atalef

    Quote: Sergey S.
    In 1945. themselves everywhere have shit. and now they are trying to wriggle out that it happened not because of cowardice and meanness, but because they are fluffy.

    what are you talking about About Germany or all of Europe.
    In general, they themselves understood. What did they write?


    In this case, about the whole of Europe.
    If it’s not clear, then about Germany, Britain, France, Italy, Austria, Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Romania, Bulgaria, and other shellups, which are not satisfied with the results of World War II, which come up with textbooks stories that deform in people feelings of dignity, justice, freedom and responsibility.

    In 1945, we had already defeated the European Union, if we were brought to war, we could repeat it.
  22. +1
    1 February 2014 19: 24
    Quote: Sergey S.
    If it’s not clear, then about Germany, Britain, France, Italy, Austria, Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Romania, Bulgaria, and other shellups, which are not satisfied with the results of World War II, which come up with textbooks stories that deform in people feelings of dignity, justice, freedom and responsibility.

    Honestly not quite. In particular, the Czech Republic. Poland. Denmark and Holland.
    It is possible in more detail. You are welcome . hi
  23. +2
    1 February 2014 19: 40
    Quote: atalef
    Honestly not quite. In particular, the Czech Republic. Poland. Denmark and Holland.
    It is possible in more detail. You are welcome . hi

    In 1941, according to some experts, the best tanks in the German army were the Tatras with a diesel engine.
    Czech Republic, Denmark, Holland - the camps allegedly affected by German aggression, but not destroyed, their fellow citizens - laymen - worked for gemania, served in the German army ...
    It is more difficult with the Poles, but only at first glance.
    Not Stalin was the first to conspire with Hitler when he divided Poland.
    Poland used to divide Czechoslovakia with Hitler.
    And the British and French indulged ...

    Isn't that an argument?
  24. Valentine77 64
    +1
    1 February 2014 20: 02
    Quote: atalef
    Then the war will never end. Assad does not have the power to turn the tide, he simply does not have human resources, since the Alawites and Christians are a minority in Syria, against the Sunni majority, the main problem is the fact that Assad remains in power, no one is willing to give up, and this is clear if Assad is removed - to all Alawites in Syria, well, if not the end, then it’s close to this, and the Sunnis will never agree with Assad as the president, the best option is to hold elections, but Assad is not ready for this, so the war will be fought there for a very long time then civilian, and even with a religious bias

    A narrow-minded person. Assad will fall - and you will be the first to feel all the delights of life in your country. I have nothing against the state of Israel, but the way you are being brainwashed ... I feel sorry for you, because you are in the first echelon of the meat grinder. You will suffer and they will make the idols of the next round of "fight" for world domination.
    1. 0
      2 February 2014 16: 52
      Quote: Valentine77 64
      Assad will fall - and you will be the first to feel all the charms of life in your own country.

      Yeah, we hear this every time we get into a war in BV, but there’s a little nuance - over 60 years of conflict and war, we have perfectly honed our ability to cut through the bearded stock and ventilate excessively hot heads with additional holes.

      Quote: Valentine77 64
      I feel sorry for you because you are in the first echelon of a meat grinder.

      And for us it is commonplace, for 60 years, you have not surprised us with anything new.

      Quote: Valentine77 64
      You will suffer and they will make the idols of the next round of "fight" for world domination.

      No more than usual, we already at the genetic level have learned to deal with this. Break off - as always.
    2. Power
      0
      3 February 2014 23: 20
      Real kosher Jews have long been knocked down, there is a poor kibbutzim left.
  25. Valentine77 64
    +1
    1 February 2014 20: 10
    [quote = The same LEKHA] IN SYRIA everything is unchanged - death rejoices to the new victims.

    In the video, the jackals executed the Syrian soldier - he died heroically, was not afraid of death.

    Jackals always attack one defenseless crowd. Tsarstovo heavenly Syrian soldier and peace to the Syrian people.
  26. parus2nik
    +1
    1 February 2014 20: 14
    The United States deliberately makes efforts for the complete failure of the Geneva-2 conference ... So they had been negotiating with the city of North Vietnam for 5 years in Paris .. and at that time they burned the Viet Cong ..
  27. Valentine77 64
    +1
    1 February 2014 20: 27
    In Iraq, security forces seized a chemical weapons laboratory owned by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, an al-Qaeda affiliate, said Iraqi Interior Ministry spokesman Adnan al-Assadi.
    Information here http://vz.ru/news/2014/2/1/670626.html
  28. +1
    1 February 2014 21: 51
    I lost this company, it is already clear to everyone. But shit will pour so much dirt on the heads of the Syrians no less than on all opponents of the shitty goodep. It remains only to wish Assad good health.
  29. 0
    1 February 2014 23: 06
    Quote: Sergey S.
    Quote: atalef
    Honestly not quite. In particular, the Czech Republic. Poland. Denmark and Holland.
    It is possible in more detail. You are welcome . hi

    In 1941, according to some experts, the best tanks in the German army were the Tatras with a diesel engine.
    Czech Republic, Denmark, Holland - the camps allegedly affected by German aggression, but not destroyed, their fellow citizens - laymen - worked for gemania, served in the German army ...
    It is more difficult with the Poles, but only at first glance.
    Not Stalin was the first to conspire with Hitler when he divided Poland.
    Poland used to divide Czechoslovakia with Hitler.
    And the British and French indulged ...

    Isn't that an argument?