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The word "victim of Stalinist repression"

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5 March 1953 - exactly 60 years ago - Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin died. There was so much "garbage" on his grave that it was time for the "wind stories»Begin your cleansing functions. Probably, a person who has raised an almost unaffordable country “with a plow” to the level of a great world power with “nuclear weapons»And saved the world from fascism, deserves that people know him and from the positive side.

And it’s good if they get this knowledge from the lips of the “victim of Stalinist repression” who now lives in Novosibirsk. This is Vera Vasilyevna Sheludchenko.

She tells about her father that under pain of death he was forced to serve in the army of Kolchak. During the retreat, he, wounded, hit Harbin. After healing, he returned home in 1923 year as a supporter of Soviet power, which helped him build a solid three-room house. Where did he move with a big family, who lived before the revolution in a one-room earthen hut.

Ten years have passed. And it was necessary for this to happen, he publicly scolded the former chairman of the collective farm for the fact that he had slandered innocent people who almost had not paid their lives. Actually for nothing. In retaliation, the chairman fabricated a denunciation according to which Vera Vasilyevna’s father was arrested and then shot.

- How many good people died because of such bastards, and now they all hang on Stalin alone! - she is still indignant.

Unexpectedly for me, Vera Vasilievna asked a very deep question: why do they constantly “shake” the 1937 year? What, in the first twenty years of Soviet power, no one “repressed” anyone?

I think that the answer to this question is not only of her interest. The fact is that until the middle of the 30s of the last century, the most massive repressions came from the ardent haters of the Russian people, who at that time occupied almost all the key posts in punitive organs. And how the “Trotskyists” hated the Russian population, one can learn from the statements of the “ardent Bolshevik” of Trotsky-Bronstein: “We will show what real power is. By terror, bloody baths, we will bring them to the animal state ... For now our young men in leather jackets are the sons of watchmakers from Odessa and Orsha, Gomel and Vinnitsa - oh, how wonderful, how delightfully they know how to hate! With what pleasure they physically destroy the Russian intelligentsia — officers, engineers, teachers, priests, generals, agronomists, academics, writers! ”

That these are not empty words, Trotsky and his accomplices have argued at every opportunity. Here is just one of them. In 1920, Wrangel's army left the Crimea. However, many tens of thousands of "white" soldiers and officers remained in their native land. Moreover, Frunze promised them life and freedom. But Trotsky, having spat on the promise of Frunze, who was trying to avoid senseless victims, “advised” his comrade Zemlyachka (Rosalia Zalkind), who was then the Crimean government, to destroy every single one. Otherwise, his legs in the Crimea will not be!

Countrywoman, knowing the nature of his boss, tried with might and main. “It’s a pity to waste cartridges on them - to drown them in the sea,” she ordered. And thousands of people were alive thrown into the sea, tying heavy stones to their feet.

And then an uncomfortable question arises for Stalin's detractors: how can one explain their fishy silence when it comes to the chilling soulless atrocities of the “Trotskyists” that took place before the notorious 1937 year.

The answer lies on the surface. After all, until 1937, they were mostly repressed. And after the year 1937, as a rule, they have already been repressed THEM.

Did Stalin know about the atrocities that the “Trotskyists” were doing, who firmly put the “Bolsheviks” on themselves? And if he knew, why did not he stop these outrages?

It seems that much he could not know. But after, in 1924, contrary to Stalin’s wishes, the ETUC (Jewish Communist Party) implicated in Zionism, at the insistence of the all-powerful Trotsky then joined the CPSU (b), Stalin’s position became so precarious that there was nothing to openly fight against the destroyers of the country was and think. But time worked for him. And therefore, closer to 1937, the time came when the “Trotskyists” were fully responsible for their atrocities.

Yes, Stalin carried out reprisals. But these measures were directed against those who not only deliberately destroyed the Russian people, but also undermined the country's potential in the face of increasing military threat. And the pharisaic bourgeois propaganda did a good job of people seeing Stalin’s defeat in the “white and fluffy” “5 column” in the 1937 year as a perennial tragedy of the whole people under the yoke of “Stalinist repression”.

We must assume that in those harsh years, people knew about the true culprits of unreasonable "repression" much more than now.

Although Vera Vasilyevna has no higher education, she understands with her peasant mind that if the USSR was destroyed with the help of “anti-Stalinism”, then we simply will not be able to revive the country without the spirit of “Stalinism”. “And honest people have nothing to fear from him,” she says.

Stalinism is, first of all, “think about the Homeland before, and then about yourself.” And from this follows a mobilization project, the eradication of corruption that is disastrous for the country, contempt for acquisitiveness, the education of all-conquering patriotism, and so on. This alone does not suit applicants for world domination. But they consider Stalin to be their main enemy because in the 30s of the last century he tore out the bloody Russia from their sticky clutches and turned it into the most powerful country in the world. Which for many years has become an insurmountable obstacle to the creation of a world fascist concentration camp, which is being built right before our eyes.

As for Vera Vasilyevna Sheludchenko, she firmly believes that until the people know the truth about Stalin, Russia will be ruined to the end. She not only understands this, but also fights for the triumph of the truth about Stalin. And though she is not a poetess, a poem is taken as a soul for her soul. And it begins like this: “Return Stalin to the people!” ...
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  1. demotivator
    demotivator 1 February 2014 07: 21
    +86
    100500 !!! The article is definitely a huge plus! Last year, the NTV channel showed a six-part documentary film “Stalin is with us!”. They showed him at night. Not for nothing. Apparently, as few people as possible looked. It's right. Not everyone is ready for such a sight.
    I wonder: did our rulers and oligarchs see it or not? Do you know why? Because against the backdrop of Stalin, they today look pale and, I would even say, immoral.
    For example, from the film we learn that Stalin was an excellent organizer. He read a lot! He wrote articles. I carefully considered each article. His struggle against the Trotskyists was not without reason - it was necessary to save the Country of Soviets from enslavement by an allegedly international International. Trotsky was the son of a bank manager who worked for one of the largest Rothschild corporations. He was never a revolutionary. Arrived in Russia when everything was done, a sort of overseer-flyer from American sponsors. His duties, first of all, included directing the Bolsheviks to “right” expenses. In addition, plunder the heritage of tsarist Russia along with tsarist gold and turn the Slavs into a kind of single slave commune-commune. According to his project, even houses were being built in which workers and peasants had to live as one common communist family, and accidentally born children had to be transferred to boarding schools and orphanages. That is, it was planned to deprive the Slavs of the dearest that they have - their kind.
    All the gold reserves of Russia, including the tsarist ones, were exported from Russia by echelons under the supervision of the Trotskyists. Kamenev and Zinoviev betrayed Comrade Koba and went over to Trotsky's side, because he had grandmothers. Stalin and stopped these outrages. Imagine that power in Russia would pass into the hands of Trotsky, Kamenev and Zinoviev? Is this the international international? Where did you see the International of one nationality?
    Today, those who are fueled by the ideas of Western democracy are writing laudatory articles about Trotsky. The authors of these articles are either utter suckers or the same Western agents of influence, for whom the main thing, like for Trotsky, is to plunder Russia today.
    Take a look at what is happening in the sense of production now in Russia, and compare with the thirties.
    It was at that time that factories were being built, from which our oligarchs still receive their oligarch profits.
    Roads, houses, entrances to Moscow ... Everything was laid at that time. That is why, even the victims of repression do not blame Stalin.
    1. jjj
      jjj 1 February 2014 07: 27
      +51
      It was correctly noted that Stalin could not immediately turn their heads to them all. Almost all of the secretaries of the regional committees were against Stalin. It was they who insisted that the right of repression be entrusted to them. It was they who destroyed a mass of people in their fields only so that their personal power would remain unshakable. And almost all of them, Stalin later had to be destroyed as an infection, because they actually did not allow the state to be monolithic.
      1. Vladimir.z.
        Vladimir.z. 1 February 2014 07: 42
        +37
        ... Stalinism is, first of all, “think first of the Motherland, and then of yourself.” And from here already follows a mobilization project, the eradication of corruption that is fatal for the country, contempt for money-grubbing, the upbringing of conquering patriotism, and so on ...

        For this, the author +, and the current masters of life are doing the opposite, probably hoping that the stolen and taken away from the country will serve them and their descendants forever - but nothing eternal, and how stolen it comes so quickly and leaves ...
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 1 February 2014 07: 47
          +45
          In his book "Temporary Workers", repeated champion of the world and Olympic weightlifting games Yuri Vlasov noted: “The largest in terms of land coverage was the great Russia of Stalin. The most powerful army was under Stalin. The best houses for people are built under Stalin. And no one dared to scoff at the Russian people under Stalin. ”
        2. shevron
          shevron 2 February 2014 00: 51
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          one of the arguments of the tragedy of 41 years is called repression over the command staff of the Red Army, and all say the opponents of Stalin and his opponents. But the question is, what if the repressions took place with His knowledge. Everyone knows Tukhachevsky as an army reformer, many admire him, but executed him only at the direction of Joseph Vissarionovich. Hero of the Civil Blucher - you still believe that he is an enemy of the people. Many bright minds such as Vavilov rotted in barracks for no reason - it’s just the time. And where would Korolev have been if not for the case ... Who would have cost rockets. It was because of the repression that the Wehrmacht appeared to be in the midst of the USSR in rocket technology and jet engines, while Stalin at that time was resting in the country or something, and did not know anything. And you can’t hide the gulag with the sharashka in your pocket. This is correctly said about the plow, but Russia until 1914 was not so much a clogged country as is commonly believed. Many clever heads left its borders after 17 years (everyone knows Sikorsky), but much remains. I believe that if it weren’t for World War I, and then Civil Russia would have had the highest prosperity and wealth without Stalin. Now there is a tendency to rewrite history both in the West and among the Slavs. The Germans are trying to reanimate their adolf from Stalin, the current historians fashioned a white and fluffy personality. Or Russians missed totalitarianism
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 2 February 2014 01: 01
            +4
            Quote: shevron
            one of the arguments of the tragedy of 41 years is called repression of the command staff
            Not figs they were plotting them. Well, the old shots were also, Kulik, Voroshilov, Budyonny. And that one in a woman’s dress dumped from Belarus, the rest waved his saber.
            And now about the new frames, the same Pavlov. and also that. It was not a matter of repressions. Although among the old, although among the new cadres there were bosses who could not manage the troops. The war is a tough thing, only it is the Academy, only it chooses the best.
            Quote: shevron
            Many clever heads left its borders after 17 years (everyone knows Sikorsky), but much remains
            What to do, what happened, happened. Not only Sikorsky could win the war, better candidates remained.
            1. shevron
              shevron 2 February 2014 03: 23
              -3
              It is a pity that the Wehrmacht did not have as many stupid military leaders and traitors as in the Red Army, otherwise our grandfathers would have celebrated New Year 42 in Berlin
              1. tilovaykrisa
                tilovaykrisa 2 February 2014 03: 27
                +2
                Funny, do you know what Hitler said about his generals in '43? What he wants is that he did not do with his generals like Stalin before the war. And do not forget that the Soviet Union fought not only with Germany, but also Italy, Romania, Hungary, profits and others, if the USSR began to win at 41, then the United States would help Hitler.
                1. Oleg14774
                  Oleg14774 2 February 2014 18: 59
                  +4
                  And do not forget that the Soviet Union fought not only with Germany, but also Italy, Romania, Hungary ...
                  First of all, it was England and the USA, then Hitler's Germany, and not Germany! Because Germany is, first of all, the people, and Hitler’s is Hitler’s!
                  The USSR alone stood against almost the entire bourgeois world!
              2. AleksUkr
                AleksUkr 2 February 2014 09: 43
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                hat-making - cf. unleash An overly self-confident, often frivolous approach to assessing an event or phenomenon. Explanatory Dictionary of Ephraim. T.F. Efremova. 2000 ...

                This is not about you? Something seems to me to be deducted from you!
            2. Azzzwer
              Azzzwer 2 February 2014 20: 02
              0
              Quote: smersh70
              .Not only Sikorsky could win the war,
              . Well, as far as my memory serves me, his inventions did not help the tsar-father to defeat the adversary in the First World War ... the army all backed up something (and even the liberals talk about some kind of stolen victory). Probably, technical inventions also need a spirit, a unifying and inspiring idea.
          2. housekeeper
            housekeeper 2 February 2014 01: 29
            +4
            one of the arguments of the tragedy of 41 years is called repression over the command staff of the red army

            But would Marshal Tukhachevsky not repeat his military talents in 41 as well as near Warsaw in 21? Or maybe he would have performed a brilliant operation like the Tambov forests all in the same 21 year?
            But the question is, what if the repressions didn’t go wrong with His knowledge

            Do you think that Stalin was omnipotent? After all, at 37 he did not yet have that authority and the support that he had in 45.
            1. shevron
              shevron 2 February 2014 03: 31
              0
              Well, I think Tukhachevsky before the Lord already holds the answer for his sins. God be his judge. And as regards I.V. Stalin, then he began to earn his authority even at the bedside of sick Ilyich being responsible for the staff. Frames decide EVERYTHING !!! Is not it?
              1. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 3 February 2014 19: 48
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                Quote: shevron
                Well, I think Tukhachevsky before the Lord already holds the answer for his sins. God be his judge.

                And I think, Svidomo, that M.N. Tukhachevsky and L.D. Bronstein indulge each other in homosexual ways and that Satan is the judge and he holds a candle for him.
          3. mark7
            mark7 2 February 2014 02: 29
            +2
            Quote: shevron
            Everyone knows Tukhachevsky as an army reformer

            Do you really think that Stalin got up a maniac every morning and thought whom he would shoot yes? And what is interesting that Tukhachevsky reformed? And Blucher’s hands are in blood all the way through his nostrils and Yakir paid for it, of course it’s a good thing to know history, but not in Khrushchev’s editorial office
          4. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 2 February 2014 02: 41
            +2
            Quote: shevron
            Everyone knows Tukhachevsky as an army reformer


            First of all, Tukhachevsky is known as the first who used mustard gas against his own population, as a military commander he did not show himself.
            1. AleksUkr
              AleksUkr 2 February 2014 10: 43
              +2
              Especially in Poland ... TALENT !!!

              "The actions of M. Tukhachevsky as Deputy People's Commissar for Armaments caused such grave consequences for the Red Army, and the consequences that lasted until the end of the war that he should be characterized only for this either as a notorious bastard and scoundrel, or a fool who accidentally entered military service.
              Yu.I. Mukhin
              1. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 3 February 2014 19: 45
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                Quote: AleksUkr
                Especially in Poland ... TALENT !!!
                "Actions of M. Tukhachevsky as Deputy People's Commissar
                ...
                Answer your "one-thinker" who, under a false picture, has expounded the directive opinion of the overseas Central Committee.
            2. shevron
              shevron 2 February 2014 19: 52
              -1
              The Tukhachevsky reptile - people poisoned with labor gas, and Stalin did a good job - deported hundreds of thousands of peasants to Siberia during collectivization (read for certain death). Russian people can only work from under the stick — someone in a sharashka who is on a collective farm. Russians cannot ( in your opinion) live without firm leadership and sometimes cruel. So now you are missing Comrade Stalin
          5. igr77
            igr77 2 February 2014 02: 42
            +2
            Documents about BLUKHER'S PERSONAL contacts with representatives of Japanese intelligence were published. They became known after the war, when there was no need to invent them. It has been a long time since his execution
            1. shevron
              shevron 2 February 2014 03: 38
              -1
              It would be interesting to find out what suddenly made the zealous Bolshevik Blucher, awarded the first red Order of the Red Banner, having passed fire and water and the Civil War, Marshal of the Red Army to merge the info to the Japanese? Selling skin !!!! That the Japanese were happy about the occasion of his execution .... I didn’t have to pay money
              1. tilovaykrisa
                tilovaykrisa 2 February 2014 03: 47
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                and why then, after a report on blucher at a party congress (in which numerous facts about his systematic drunkenness were indicated), Stalin stood up for him before the party, which kept him in his post? And he was displaced only after his complete failure on Hassan Lake where we suffered through his fault monstrous losses. Evidently more serious facts appeared than his drunkenness.
                1. shevron
                  shevron 2 February 2014 04: 49
                  0
                  Stupidity and slovenliness is still not a betrayal, although in this case it is comparable. It would be much more plausible if the leader knew that Blucher spoke about him politically incorrect and methylated in his place. What would your boss do for you? Our people love to chat. Under His reign, EVERYONE thought what to say. SO?
                  1. Ustas
                    Ustas 2 February 2014 08: 00
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                    Quote: shevron
                    Hero of the Civil Blucher - you still believe that he is an enemy of the people

                    Quote: shevron
                    zealous Bolshevik Blucher, awarded the first red Order of the Red Banner, passed fire and water and the Civil War

                    Quote: shevron
                    Stupidity and sloppiness is not treason, although in this case it is comparable

                    You contradict yourself, exposing Blucher either as a hero, then as a dumb slob, claiming to rule the country. God forbid from such managers. For the fact that Blucher was shot, arms and legs behind.
                    Sloppiness in wartime is treason!
                    1. shevron
                      shevron 2 February 2014 20: 03
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                      Quote: Ustas
                      You contradict yourself, exposing Blucher either as a hero, then as a dumb slobber,
                      I think even now many generals in their youth were dashing lieutenants
                  2. 11111mail.ru
                    11111mail.ru 3 February 2014 19: 20
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                    Quote: shevron
                    SO?

                    Unfortunately for you, dear Svidomo, I know that in Polish and in Zapadensk, SO means YES. Our people love to have their own opinion, and love to "have" those whose opinions do not coincide with their own. Until vidzenya.
                2. 11111mail.ru
                  11111mail.ru 3 February 2014 19: 27
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                  Quote: tilovaykrisa
                  monstrous losses.

                  Indicate the loss of opposing forces relative to the number of opposing forces. Then lay out a comment, Japanese you are our homegrown.
              2. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 3 February 2014 19: 56
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                Quote: shevron
                Here the Japanese then rejoiced on the occasion of his execution .... Money did not have to pay

                And your "ancestors" did not cry either, I guess.
                1. shevron
                  shevron 3 February 2014 22: 56
                  0
                  My ancestor is my grandfather, he fought with the Japanese in 1945 and I am proud of my ancestors both from the Ukrainian side and from the Russian side. And YOU "dear" comrades simply cannot be free people. YOU "dear" comrades without communism and without an uncle with an iron stick are simply boring to live. Stalin is your Great Leader and Teacher What did the "Sage" teach you? Built communism - built it? Collective farms created - Where are they now? Factory workers? 100 years have passed and what have they returned to? And it is not necessary to see in every Ukrainian a subhuman or Bendera. Me "here" is called "Svidomo". I will not call YOU derogatory through subtext. While we are here SHREAMING west claps
                  1. 11111mail.ru
                    11111mail.ru 6 February 2014 19: 33
                    +1
                    Not "Svidomo", okay convinced. More than 20 years have passed since the enemies of I.V. Stalin - your ideological masters - reigned in the power structures of both state formations (EREF and RU). What positive results from their management can you present here? Industry? Education? The medicine? Population growth? Life expectancy?
            2. 11111mail.ru
              11111mail.ru 2 February 2014 11: 51
              0
              Quote: igr77
              Documents about BLUKHER'S PERSONAL contacts with representatives of Japanese intelligence were published.

              Provide a link (s), please, if this is not a state secret of the Russian Federation, about VK Blucher's personal contacts with the Japs. I would be grateful, if not in this thread, then in a "personal".
          6. tellurium
            tellurium 2 February 2014 19: 32
            +1
            Regarding tsarist Russia. 1915 - literacy at the level of 30%, aircraft manufacturing, engine building and non-ferrous metallurgy are in their infancy. Tsarist Russia does not - ball bearings, carburetors, aircraft electrical equipment, control and air navigation devices. Aluminum, tire covers and even copper wire purchases abroad. the list goes on.
          7. Azzzwer
            Azzzwer 2 February 2014 19: 55
            +3
            Quote: shevron
            This is rightly said about the plow, but Russia, until the 1914 year, was not so much a clogged country as is commonly believed.
            Barin, what are you talking about? It is likely that before 1914 of the year more than 80% of the population, only the European part of the country was completely illiterate. The duration of the worker for was 13 - 15 hours, child labor from 9 years. So do not talk about those who had all rights before the revolution, let's talk about those who did not have any rights except to die from overwork.
            1. shevron
              shevron 3 February 2014 23: 14
              0
              Quote: Azzzwer
              It is likely that until 1914 more than 80% of the population, only the European part of the country, was completely illiterate.

              Now the population is VERY grammatical. We use LENOVO we go to TOYOTA we dress in PRADO. What's the use of grammar? Did the best tanks the best aircraft, ships, for what? The Germans do not and do not need it. It is better to have a BMW than the t-72. Spent money on the defense industry for what? Probably for the sake of the Germans living better!
              1. Ustas
                Ustas 4 February 2014 09: 44
                0
                Quote: shevron
                Did the best tanks the best airplanes, for what? The Germans do not and do not need it. It is better to have a BMW than the t-72.

                The Germans and tanks are some of the best, and they make them. So we need to do.
                Quote: shevron
                Spent money on the defense industry for what?

                Well, that would all ride a BMW and TOYOTA. Without tanks, we will only have to live in a foreign land (or maybe they won’t let us live) and use only what is provided to us, prays to God, to which they will show us, to go where they are allowed.
            2. shevron
              shevron 3 February 2014 23: 39
              0
              [quote = shevron] [quote = Azzzwer] Probably that until 1914 more than 80% of the population, only the European part of the country, was completely illiterate. [/ quote]
              Now the population is VERY grammatical. We use LENOVO we go to TOYOTA we dress in PRADO. What's the use of grammar? Did the best tanks the best aircraft, ships, for what? The Germans do not and do not need it. It is better to have a BMW than the t-72. Spent money on the defense industry for what? Probably for the sake of the Germans living better!
              [quote = shevron] The worker lasted 13-15 hours, child labor from 9 years old. So don’t talk about those who had all rights before the revolution, let's talk about those who had no rights except to die from overwork . [/ quote] Find out how the factories worked before the war and what was the working week, how many days off. And about the children - one word of the Federal Law. Ask old people about the regime there. My grandmother managed to finish 4 classes was about 10 years and that's it !!! Further work on the farm. 10 classes just for the money, surprised? (Mother finished only 7 classes). In the summer from dawn to dusk, work in the field, and all his life. FOR WORKERS. It’s impossible to leave; they began to give passports to collective farmers only about Brezhnev. Why are you not serfdom? I managed to read a lot of books but the most reliable information I learned from the elderly. I heard a lot of stories and they were different from each other. Who was in power - at the party feeder, he recalls those years only as the years of his youth, and my old men, a simple soldier and a collective farmer, were worried about their grandchildren and did not want such a fate as they had ...
          8. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 3 February 2014 19: 54
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            Quote: shevron
            Or Russians missed totalitarianism

            And you yourself, zahidnyak, from Brody, or will Uzhgorod?
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          10. deZerTigR
            deZerTigR 8 February 2014 21: 20
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            According to Tukhachevsky read at least the same Rezun. Theorist of military affairs yes with kuev. The First World War lieutenant was actually held captive by the First World War itself. The surrender for an officer of the tsarist army if that was not considered a worthy deed. in the main civilian experience, the suppression of a weaker opponent Kronstad, Tambov, and well, the order to use gas weapons against the population of his own country is indescribable, and for that alone he deserved his bullet. another victim of Uborevchi - Upyrevich practicing hostage taking and shooting every fifth. yeah, uh of such war theoreticians. In preparation for a real war, these executioners were no longer needed and were removed as outdated. Removing these heroes did not weaken the army. Theorist yeah with his theories first check out.
      2. SPACE
        SPACE 1 February 2014 08: 10
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        Quote: jjj
        It was correctly noted that Stalin could not immediately turn their heads to them all. Almost all of the secretaries of the regional committees were against Stalin.

        And who is against Putin today?

        And here is a typical Western liberal propaganda pattern, between the words about Stalin and Lenin is inserted ...
        Quote: demotivator
        Take a look at what is happening in the sense of production now in Russia, and compare with the thirties.

        Stubbornly oppresses a blatant lie, in calculating to achieve the Effect, PUTIN MUST LEAVE, fools grab this dyrmo and stumble on the pluses.
        HAVE YOU a dermativator, you would not cover Lenin and Stalin with your whitewashed nonsense, do not touch the great names. In Russia, EVERYONE does, METALS MELT, ATOM, SPACE, HIGH-TECH WEAPONS, etc. and what they don’t do, they can do it, and not only thanks to Stalin! Well, what about the production, if I inherited the chicken coop, then why the hell am I building a second chicken coop? Or construction for the sake of construction, plants are needed only if there is a demand for their products!
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        2. alleksSalut4507
          alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 22: 38
          0
          speaking competently, the soul is pleased after the freaking. production fell to the level of 1913. what to do. even as it tries to assemble.
        3. Ustas
          Ustas 2 February 2014 08: 10
          +1
          Quote: SPACE
          Well, what about the production, if I inherited the chicken coop, then why the hell am I building a second chicken coop?

          In, in, this is what the potential enemies of Russia achieve, so that everyone thinks only of themselves, of their inheritance.
          And do not give a damn about the country. Unlike you, Stalin was thinking about the country.
          By the way, what does Putin have to do with it, where does the article even say a word about Putin?
        4. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 2 February 2014 12: 14
          0
          Quote: SPACE
          HAVE YOU a dermativator, you would not cover the name of Lenin and Stalin, your whitewashed nonsense

          Dear, and you, by chance will you be with the moderator of "Alexander Romanov" with more than one "kubla"?
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          "Go to the mirror."
          Quote: SPACE
          if I inherited a chicken coop,

          That’s the flag in your hands in competition with the Bush family.
          In polemics, besides swearing and folding, try using normal arguments: facts, figures (confirmed, preferably with links).
          Quote: SPACE
          factories are needed only if there is a demand for their products!

          "Marketing", there is such an imported word, ask if necessary, its translation into Russian.
    2. Gregazov
      Gregazov 1 February 2014 08: 41
      +24
      Demotivator
      He said almost everything correctly, with the exception of Lenin. Lenin and Trotsky were not essentially different from each other, but Stalin was a student of Lenin and it took him a considerable length of time to understand this ideological ball and understand what was happening. Lenin and Trotsky staged a civil, massacre of the best minds of Russia, and the expulsion of the rest abroad from their homeland. Stalin planned and carried out the ideological coup of 1937 on his own. With this coup, he really saved Russia from a final rout, to which he also had a hand in his day.
      1. demotivator
        demotivator 1 February 2014 09: 12
        +20
        I agree. Only I tried to write within the framework of the stated topic - Stalin and repression. And even then, someone "Kosmos" wrote me to the liberals for sympathies with Stalin. Some kind of schizophrenia, how can a Stalinist be a liberal?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 1 February 2014 09: 17
          +15
          Quote: demotivator
          Some schizophrenia, how can a Stalinist be a liberal?

          There is no schizophrenia! It’s just that sometimes it’s beneficial for some to write that Putin’s Yeltsin’s successor is one team, but at the same time, Stalin’s Lenin’s success is one team, but in both cases the predecessors ruined the country and the proteges raised. So what are you talking about , now compare the constructions of Stalin and the modern ones, forget about how much Stalin spent time. That would make a super power out of a poor, ruined country. Hence the criticism addressed to you.
          1. TiGRoO
            TiGRoO 1 February 2014 13: 39
            +5
            You are partly right, there were two more figures because of which the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR collapsed, they were to blame in the first place. This is Nicholas II and Gorbachev. And then there were Lenin, Yeltsin, in which the state was reduced territorially and Stalin -? (Putin is possible), in which the state became a superpower.
            1. TiGRoO
              TiGRoO 1 February 2014 17: 43
              +2
              And what did I write wrong? Or are there ardent supporters of Nikolashka 2 and Hunchback?
            2. wax
              wax 1 February 2014 18: 12
              +6
              Stalin is the continuer of Lenin's cause, and never separated himself from Lenin. The outstanding Russian scientist, thinker, academician V.I. Vernadsky (a member of the Central Committee of the Cadet Party), and during the Great Patriotic War, Stalin was awarded almost the same assessment. And this is not in officialdom, but in diaries, which began to be taken apart for publication only in the 90s and 357s. On page 1941 of the edition of his diaries for 1943-XNUMX it is written (quote): "A very rare example: the existence of VI Ulyanov-Lenin and Stalin in one party." Further: "I remember I. Pavlov, who believed that the most difficult and rare manifestation of the highest nervous activity is the state mind."
              Everyone who pours mud on Lenin pours mud on Stalin. Everyone who pours mud on Stalin pours mud on Lenin. But some found an intermediate way out - to tear Lenin from his direct ideological heir, Stalin, deliberately or thoughtlessly throwing a stone at the same time in the USSR. The thing is that the activities of Lenin fell on a terrible period in the history of the Russian state. And in the same period, there were no alternatives to Lenin. The result of Lenin's activity was the creation of the USSR from the wreckage of the former imperial empire.
              1. TiGRoO
                TiGRoO 1 February 2014 19: 17
                +1
                So I do not claim that Lenin is the destroyer of the country, I just stated the fact that under Lenin our country territorially decreased, but without it, of course, it would have decreased even more because of the Entente.

                The main meaning of my comment is as follows, sometime mu ** ak "tsar father", perhaps there was no collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia. Also, sometime in 1986-1991 humpbacked, perhaps there would have been no collapse of the USSR.
                1. alleksSalut4507
                  alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 23: 19
                  +1
                  a hunchback in one glorious city was given a muzzle .... even.
                  1. Ustas
                    Ustas 2 February 2014 08: 18
                    +1
                    Quote: alleksSalut4507
                    a hunchback in one glorious city was given a muzzle .... even.

                    I would have let him go too ...
              2. alleksSalut4507
                alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 23: 15
                +1
                there was no alternative for Lenin, everyone escaped. and the Bolsheviks gathered the State out of nothing .......
            3. alleksSalut4507
              alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 23: 09
              +2
              Ilyich did not give everything that the Germans wanted. And how England and France "cried" with bloody tears and that's all, then, in vain. But now they got together with their brother. And Stalin, as they say, was a specific person. and a real The Emperor did not take anything for himself, but he returned almost all the territories of RI to us.
              1. TiGRoO
                TiGRoO 1 February 2014 23: 52
                0
                I totally agree with you.
            4. shevron
              shevron 2 February 2014 01: 09
              +4
              Absolutely right !!! In weak hands, any state turns to dust. Nikolai 2 is simply a gopher in front of Stalin, and Gorbachev Judah, the Nobel laureate is the mother of his father. The whole world trembled before Stalin and this bastard shamed such a country
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 1 February 2014 13: 37
        +1
        Who sent this to someone? Each specialist was dragged to his house as best they could, they understood that there were not enough personnel, those who wanted to leave had left.
      3. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 1 February 2014 17: 24
        +3
        Gregazov
        "Lenin and Trotsky, in their essence, did not differ from each other, and Stalin was a student of Lenin ..... Civil, butchery of the best minds of Russia, the expulsion of the rest abroad, Lenin and Trotsky arranged jointly."
        Lenin, Trotsky always gave the appropriate characteristic-JUDUSH.
        Lenin in Trotsky did not see any successor to his Cause.
        Trotsky, contrary to Lenin, dragged the JAC into the RSDLP (b) in its entirety, including the most odious and infected with Jewish exclusivity. The JAC was just by name., Supposedly a communist party, in fact, in the interests of only and only Jews.
        Stalin, ANYWHERE, NEVER questioned the Genius of Lenin, this is your tricks-Lenin's authority to hit Stalin, allegedly by Stalin's "crimes" to hit socialism, and eventually the country.
        The 37-year-old author absolutely rightly said here by whom
        there was a blow to the shallow opposition grouped around Trotsky, a kind of new boyars, disguised as the Reds.
        And it’s not surprising that the descendants of these scoundrels know little for what their ancestors suffered, they still lie that they say repressions concerned the absolute majority, DONOS, who wrote, if not the ancestors of all these Radzinsky, Svanidze, Sobchaks and others, now multifarious?
        Rights and that old woman, clearly indicating WHO wrote denunciations.
        STALIN developed the IDEA, on the foundation of Lenin's ideas, so driving a wedge is a task for the enemies of Russia, and you have been doing this for several years.
        And the development of Stalin’s ideas, frightened by the lousy West, was the result of the killing, the result of Khrushchev and the winding up of the PROJECT, in which the WEST had no chance to remain in the state as it was.
        1. alleksSalut4507
          alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 23: 25
          0
          Trotsky’s relatives have bankers, and even from America, not counting members in RussAsian. Read conspiracy thesis 120 Broadway website and Sverdlov there. What do you want. What kind of Russia is it.
      4. alleksSalut4507
        alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 22: 44
        +1
        Trotsky’s bankers in America and in Russia. Lenin’s head, Stalin’s shadow work. He left the state for us. And we, as usual .......
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 1 February 2014 09: 03
      +1
      Quote: demotivator
      Trotsky was the son of a bank manager who worked for one of the largest Rothschild corporations.

      Mistake, David Leontievich father L.D.T. owner of the estate Yanovka ("farmer" in Novorusskiy). Upon arrival to his son in Moscow, he issued the phrase: "Fathers work, work to earn money for old age, and children make a revolution and leave them with nothing."
      As for the sometimes expressed version of the work of L.D.T. in the office of J. Schiff, I personally doubt very much: well, what an eccentric will trust a journalist, even a talented one, with the complex art of extracting money from a living person.
      And I agree with the comment, with the exception of "the son of a bank manager."
      1. demotivator
        demotivator 1 February 2014 09: 20
        +9
        Yes, just like that, he was born the fifth child in the family of David Leontyevich Bronstein and his wife Anna (Anette) Lvovna Bronstein (nee Zhivotovskaya) - wealthy landowners from among the Jewish colonists of an agricultural farm near the village of Yanovka, Yelisavetgradsky district, Kherson province, Bereslavitsa district, now Kirovograd region, Ukraine). And about doubts that a journalist can be trusted to pull money out of people, I will answer with the words of Trokoy himself:
        Every revolution is done so that thieves and prostitutes become philosophers and poets.
        But in general, thanks for the corrections.
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          1. Ustas
            Ustas 2 February 2014 08: 27
            0
            Quote: 11111mail.ru
            in ErEfii

            Only for this minus. This is how you can hate Russia to call it that?
            1. 11111mail.ru
              11111mail.ru 2 February 2014 09: 03
              +2
              Quote: Ustas
              Quote: 11111mail.ru
              in ErEfii
              Only for this minus. This is how you can hate Russia to call it that?

              Do not confuse, dear, the concept of homeland and the state. I swore allegiance to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in 1979. In relation to the current oligarchic superstructure of modern Russia, I have no other term as ErEfiya. Where, sooner or later, find themselves rich liberals, those who swore their love for the Russian Federation? Unfortunately, not on a bunk, but in the capital of Russia's enemies - in London! Where do foreign exchange funds go from the sold natural resources? What prospects do you see for your children, unless, of course, you are an inhabitant of Rublyovka?
        2. alleksSalut4507
          alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 23: 27
          0
          yes. smart guy with money.
      2. avt
        avt 1 February 2014 10: 48
        +10
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        And I agree with the comment, with the exception of "the son of a bank manager."

        Uncle was a banker. Abram Zhivotovsky. Very much rose on the arms orders of Russia and the speculations of Gelfand / Parvus and dumped in the USA. Through him the nephew was financed by the intelligence community of Angles and Amers. At the expense of the Trotskyists and "innocent victims of Stalin's terror against the Leninist guard." An angry article of those times by a Bolshevik named Raskolnikov. Here is an interesting fact of his biography. Appointed by Trotsky to the fleet commander in the Baltic, he carried out an operation as a result of which two destroyers were captured by the Angles and then transferred to the Baltic states. Part of the crew went over to the side of the whites in Estonia, but the active, identified Bolsheviks were shot, except for Raskolnikov. He was invited to the commander of the British squadron and transported to the then Great Britain, from where he safely returned to the RSFSR. This is how the gentlemanly attitude of the Angles created concentration camps on the north for the Bolsheviks and sympathizers is not too It agrees in relation to Raskolnikov, but the Athec clearly understood this, he knew exactly what he could get from the "comrades-in-arms" - proteges and sympathizers of Leiba Davidovich. In the mortal battle with Trotsky, there is no place for sentiment and past merits in the revolution, and everywhere in the world in such a situation since the time of the Great French Revolution with its guillotine.
      3. Bator79
        Bator79 1 February 2014 21: 17
        +1
        Trotsky was a man of the Rothschilds ... as Chubais is now
    4. Andrey57
      Andrey57 1 February 2014 09: 28
      +22
      The words of Trotsky - Leo Bronstein - “We will show what real power is. Through terror, bloody baths, we will bring them to an animal state ... In the meantime, our young men in leather jackets are the sons of watchmakers from Odessa and Orsha, Gomel and Vinnitsa - oh, how wonderful, how delightful they know how to hate! With what pleasure they physically destroy the Russian intelligentsia - officers, engineers, teachers, priests, generals, agronomists, academics, writers! ”


      Kamenev and Zinoviev betrayed Comrade Koba and went over to Trotsky's side, because he had grandmothers. Stalin and stopped these outrages.


      Kamenev - real name Lev Borisovich Rosenfeld
      Zinoviev - Gersh Aronovich Radomyslsky, mother Apfelbaum

      These two "gentlemen" did not betray Comrade Stalin, they were never with Comrade Stalin, they were always, as Leva Bronstein said, "young men in leather jackets are the sons of watchmakers from Odessa and Orsha, Gomel and Vinnitsa," and now they said would that their dads were "lawyers", that's all !!! fellow
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 1 February 2014 12: 52
        +9
        I have nothing against Jews as a nation, especially against Jewish patriots of Russia.
        But the fact of the dominance of Jews in the CPSU (b) and the anti-Russian policy of the Jewish diaspora at the head of the Communist Party (Trotsky, Sverdlov, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Uritsky, etc.) legitimately cause objection and discontent.
        In the 20s, Stalin applied soft measures of repression to the opposition: dismissal, deportation, expulsion from the country.
        But oppositionists removed from large posts, including Jews Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev, etc., did not stop the struggle, weaved anti-Stalinist plots, sought to change the Stalinist course of building socialism, to seize power.
        There was no choice for Stalin, the Central Committee of the party, it was necessary to destroy the Trotskyists, oppositionists and the 5th column led by them. What they did, what ensured the cohesion of Soviet society in the pre-war thunder years.
        Years passed, there was no USSR destroyed by traitors and a resurgent 5th column.
        The problem arose again of the struggle against the dominance of the Jewish diaspora in the leadership of the state, in the economy, with the pro-Western liberal model of capitalism carried out by them, which turned Russia into a raw materials appendage of the West.
        1. shevron
          shevron 2 February 2014 01: 23
          0
          And was it worth it to shed so much blood to get everything back to square one? Human blood is not vodice ...
      2. shevron
        shevron 2 February 2014 01: 20
        0
        Lenin was also not from a simple estate, and these two people were next to him. Together they made a revolution. Or was Lenin wrong in them?
    5. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 1 February 2014 11: 10
      +16
      Trotsky was an ardent Russophobe about which he wrote many times in his works, thanks to Ramon Mercader for reassuring this demon with an ice ax.
      1. shevron
        shevron 2 February 2014 01: 26
        -1
        I didn’t study Trotsky as a person, but I know for sure that with the birth of the Red Army and then the SA is obliged to him, or now it is not taken into account?
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 2 February 2014 08: 32
          0
          Quote: shevron
          I didn’t study Trotsky as a person, but I know for sure that with the birth of the Red Army and then the SA is obliged to him, or now it is not taken into account?

          Not he, so another would create the country's armed forces.
          Even Lenin wrote, "Any revolution is worth something if it knows how to defend itself" So Trotsky's merit in this is controversial.
          1. shevron
            shevron 2 February 2014 11: 59
            -3
            You can also say about Stalin. He would not have led the Soviet people to victory over fascism so differently
            Quote: Ustas
            Not he, so another would create the country's armed forces.
          2. PPL
            PPL 2 February 2014 18: 38
            0
            Lenin was the ideologist - he was the first of the Marxists to develop the question of the armed forces of the proletarian state, and formed the scientific basis for the organization and construction of the Soviet Army.
            In March 1918, chaired by V.I. Lenin hosted a meeting of military workers, which discussed the organization of the army. Initially, the Red Army was staffed on the principles of voluntariness. But already in the spring of 1918, given the need to repulse the invaders and the White Guards, they began to prepare for the transition to the creation of a regular and centralized army on the basis of compulsory military service. On May 29, 1918, the All-Russian Central Executive Committee adopted a resolution on the compulsory draft of workers to the Red Army.
    6. Boris55
      Boris55 1 February 2014 11: 57
      0
      Who cares - "Stalin is with us!":
      http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D0%9D%D0%A2%D0%92%20%E2%80%9C%D0%A1
      %D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%20%D1%81%20%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8!%E2%80%9D.&sm
      = 12
    7. invisibility
      invisibility 1 February 2014 14: 03
      +10
      It is a pity that there is no way to put at least 100 pluses. Like carte blanche, say once a year. I would love to do this, as applied to the article and commentary by Mikhail (demotivator). Detractors, accusers, money-grubbers, fools, liars and poop, I appeal to you! You live in a country built of valuable life, health I.V. Stalin and his associates and followers! You live only because there was such a GREAT person!
    8. wax
      wax 1 February 2014 17: 14
      +13
      Stalin's houses and other buildings are standing, and Khrushchev’s and remodelers are crowding. And the Moscow Stalin metro is a masterpiece for the people.
      1. shevron
        shevron 2 February 2014 01: 30
        0
        Forgot to mention that people built the stalinkans who, even under the tsar's priest, learned crafts and the Khrushchevs were wholly a product of the USSR
        1. Fedya
          Fedya 3 February 2014 23: 20
          0
          By the way, no one knows that the famous épossioner is a great-granddaughter of that same countrywoman?
    9. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 22: 23
      0
      there is such a site-conspiracy theories-there you will find the answers.
  2. mak210
    mak210 1 February 2014 07: 21
    +7
    How much can you fake this fake back and forth? I'm not just negative about Leiba, but like a nasty worm. I also have a definite opinion on the national composition of the Soviets until the 37th year. But you have to be honest.

    “We will show what real power is. By terror, bloody baths, we will bring them to an animal state ...


    From the speech of L. Trotsky to the soldiers of the Bogulma division on the Eastern Front. The newspaper "Working Thought" on July 20, 1919.

    It is not indicated where and by whom the newspaper Rabochaya Mysl was published. There are no traces of the existence of a newspaper with that name in 1919, and the Bogulma Division too (there was a Bugulma regiment near Kolchak, there was a Bugulma division created in 1941). However, “proving absence” is hard. And who will guarantee that tomorrow a new “link” does not appear, for example, to the Soldat newspaper of November 7, 1918 or the Work Life newspaper of May 19, 1919?


    This is such a clever trick in war propaganda. Introduce a fake into a theory, people will get used to it, and then refute it, considering it as proof of the falsity of the whole theory. If we analyze against whom the repressions of 35-39 were directed, which significantly changed the national composition of power, then we will understand who needs all this cesspool. As the Leningrad group sings: "Drive to ...", the historical homeland, enough muddy the waters here.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 1 February 2014 08: 41
      +5
      Quote: mak210
      But you have to be honest.

      Then comment on the anecdote attributed to L.D.T. about tomorrow's total hanging and whose ropes will be. If SUCH was issued in the form of an "anecdote" ... then no specific clarifications about the existence / non-existence of a particular newspaper at a particular time will be meaningful.
      In addition to L.D.T. there were still many vile personalities, well, at least a certain "SI Gusev" (Ya.D. Drabkin), who insistently introduced denunciations along the party line, even the executioner IE Yakir ... are innumerable to them. And Trotsky is like poop on top of a floating and therefore visible to everyone ...
  3. Volkhov
    Volkhov 1 February 2014 07: 26
    .
    “Return Stalin to the people!”
    The people had Stalin, but the people did not protect him, and then he felt sorry. It is the same with the tsar and the USSR - the people need to get their mind back, then there will be no problems with leadership, but the mind requires self-education, which people are not interested in and deservedly live in a stall, as befits a sheep.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 February 2014 08: 24
      +10
      Quote: Volkhov
      as befits a sheep.

      Come to the mirror.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 1 February 2014 12: 06
        -5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Volkhov
        as befits a sheep.
        Come to the mirror.

        But do not know how to politely, / user / Alexander Romanov /, or do not want to?
        1. Bator79
          Bator79 1 February 2014 21: 19
          +2
          Romanov - lost 1 world, lost the Kuril Islands made a bloody Sunday
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 2 February 2014 09: 06
            0
            The Kuril Islands of Japan gave way to another Romanov - the grandfather of the one you have in mind in 1875.
    2. oracul
      oracul 1 February 2014 09: 35
      +10
      No need to compare the incomparable. The king with his camarilla got everyone. The USSR is a separate story: attacks from the outside and betrayal from above, while simultaneously demagoguering misleading the people who trusted the authorities and the CPSU, since before that there was no great reason not to believe. Yes, there were excesses and repressions, but there were industrialization, collectivization, and the Great Victory in the war, and the restoration of the country, and the improvement of life.
    3. AlexxxNik
      AlexxxNik 1 February 2014 10: 14
      +7
      Quote: Volkhov
      but the people did not protect him

      after the "pasta factories" began to work for the interests of the Jews, it is not surprising that the people are confused and do not know what to believe in, the intelligentsia, which still understood something, for the most part by that time neutralized and replaced the Pale of Settlement. so it is not surprising that there were few violent and had to endure the betrayal of the Communist Party in order to understand what kind of demon lurked there
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 1 February 2014 16: 18
        +1
        This is all true, but knowledge, as well as muscle and money is obtained, the souls of the murdered intrigents are reborn, so that everything is fixable, the question is only actions, and there are more incentives ...
        In Vladivostok, an interesting bridge was built on about. Russian - it emits 200 kHz with the geophysical activity of the radio wave and the power is large - the present Russian radio - if residents understand what, then they will be dragged to knowledge.
        What is typical - a site or channel can be closed, but this "radio station" can only be demolished, which is unlikely, 3 billion dollars have been invested ... powered by the center of the Earth, radiation is a natural resonance of the structure (like a tuning fork separates frequency from noise) ... Koreans and Japanese will also be interested in this signal.
    4. shevron
      shevron 2 February 2014 01: 35
      +1
      You belong to the highest race - do you graze sheep (people)? Hour is not the Lord?
  4. Name
    Name 1 February 2014 07: 27
    +8
    Welcome all!"Return Stalin to the people!"., stop being liberal, and listen to gayES and amers,because if you want to restore order in the country and set up society to withstand external and internal threats, repression cannot be avoided. It is impossible to solve problems like "Serdyukovschina", "Chubaischina" by reprimands, reprimands and transfers from one position to another. Social evil must be suppressed in the most harsh way, especially when the question is about the survival of the Russian people.
  5. demotivator
    demotivator 1 February 2014 07: 32
    +16
    Although Vera Vasilyevna has no higher education, she understands with her peasant mind that if the USSR was destroyed with the help of “anti-Stalinism”, then we simply will not be able to revive the country without the spirit of “Stalinism”. “And honest people have nothing to fear from him,” she says.

    That's it. Of course, Stalin is not a gift. Yes, there have been many atrocities, crimes and mistakes. But today, things are even worse. And the current leadership of the country has something to worry about with Stalin, in all matters - from the economy, to the defense of the country, from education and upbringing of the masses, and to strengthening order and discipline.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 February 2014 08: 27
      -7
      Quote: demotivator
      before the defense of the country,

      Maybe he doesn’t study, but avoid repeating mistakes that resulted in the Germans reaching the Volga. You are so smart and you know what needs to be done in the country. Can you nominate yourself for president?
      1. demotivator
        demotivator 1 February 2014 09: 53
        +2
        It's too late.
      2. invisibility
        invisibility 1 February 2014 14: 22
        +4
        Only to the Volga. Under the current regime, God forbid stop the enemy on the Amur! Alexander, he studies and needs to avoid mistakes!
        No, Michael is not the only one so smart! I plan for president, support?
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 2 February 2014 08: 48
          0
          Quote: invisible
          Under the current regime, God forbid stop the enemy on the Amur!

          Now the enemy can only be stopped in his head.
          1. invisibility
            invisibility 2 February 2014 09: 09
            -1
            I don’t quite understand ... Are you one of those who think that we have no enemies?
    2. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 23: 43
      +1
      there were hedgehogs and berries, more ....
      1. invisibility
        invisibility 2 February 2014 09: 07
        -1
        Keyword, were ..
  6. CALL.
    CALL. 1 February 2014 07: 33
    +6
    Bronstein: “We will show what real power is. By means of terror, bloody baths, we will bring them to an animal state ... In the meantime, our young men in leather jackets are the sons of watchmakers from Odessa and Orsha, Gomel and Vinnitsa - oh, how wonderful, how delightful they know how to hate! With what pleasure they physically destroy the Russian intelligentsia - officers, engineers, teachers, priests, generals, agronomists, academics, writers! ”

    Trotsky did not write such words, at least not anywhere else in his books. But that. that this is not in his writings (and he is not @ iot), does not mean that he was not guided by these settings. Trotsky is an enemy of Russian civilization, a rabid Russophobe, demagogue and provocateur. And in all his affairs, he was guided by these attitudes.
    1. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 23: 45
      0
      and provocateur ...
  7. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 1 February 2014 07: 34
    .
    The article can be replaced with one sentence: "The Jews are guilty, guilty always and in everything!" Article minus.
    1. Jaros81
      Jaros81 1 February 2014 10: 37
      +14
      And it was the Jews who did the revolution !!! Look at the list of "revolutionaries" there is a Jew on a Jew. Article plus
      1. 17085
        17085 1 February 2014 16: 18
        +1
        Go to the Field of Mars to the monument to the "victims of the revolution". Jews and Finns, the Russian boy Sokolov is clearly accidental in that gop-company.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 1 February 2014 12: 08
      +3
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      "The Jews are to blame, always to blame for everything!"

      You said that.
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 1 February 2014 13: 00
        -9
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        You said that.

        No, not me. The author of the article said. I just formulated his "thought". It is necessary to also mention the Anglo-Saxons and the Kaiser for completeness of the picture. We Russians, in general, have nothing to do with it.
        1. ia-ai00
          ia-ai00 1 February 2014 23: 47
          +2
          It looks like you Was Mammoth RU , from the "chosen of God" with an admixture of the blood of the Anglo-Saxons, since you clearly understand who has what ...
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 2 February 2014 13: 01
            0
            Quote: ia-ai00
            It looks like you Was a Mammoth RU, from the "chosen by God" with an admixture of the blood of the Anglo-Saxons, since you clearly understand who has what ...

            Plus for your intuition.
            A grandfather from the Kursk miners, another grandfather from Siberia. I myself am a blue-eyed blond, though already gray.
            Are you a supporter of the idea of ​​a worldwide Jewish conspiracy? To reduce the Great October Socialist Revolution to the machinations of Jews, Anglo-Saxons and Germans - oh, how clever! Lenin is already opposed to Stalin.
            At VO already added that Bandera closer to Russian than Kazakhs. And to me, a Kazakh nationalist is closer to Bandera. At least we have a common, at least related to the Great Patriotic, and even the mentality. So, there is an opportunity to understand and agree.
            What is the difference between a Russian who hates Jews from Bandera or Hitlerites? Yes, nothing. We have already had Black Hundreds in our history.
            I am Russian. I am equally proud of the heroic, bright pages of our history
            and worry about her black pages. I repeat, to hate any people as a whole is a sign of their own worthlessness.
    3. invisibility
      invisibility 1 February 2014 15: 08
      +1
      The article has a title! Do you want to write "Jews are guilty, guilty always and in everything!" , god help. Let's read it. Maybe put
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      Article minus.

      This is how to write.
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 1 February 2014 18: 06
        -1
        Quote: invisible
        Maybe put

        Benefactor. I will most humblely expect.

        And who are these Jews?
        Here is a Jew writing:
        Tongue? All Jews speak different languages. Russian, Yiddish, Arabic, etc.
        Culture? Take a closer look at the Jews from Russia and from Yemen ...
        Common territory? Was not. And even now, most Jews live outside of Israel.
        Joint story? No, well, unless periodically beaten everywhere.
        Genealogy? Yes, we are descendants of Israel and his sons, but a person of any nationality who wants to accept their spiritual heritage can also become a Jew - go through a giyur.
        Say religion? But a non-religious person is a Jew, after all!
        Jews really do not fall into any definition. Imagine a person: lives in Alaska, speaks Arabic, looks like a Chinese, and when asked who you are, he answers - a Jew!

        I’ll add from myself. Are Jewish warriors guilty of giving their lives for Russia, are Jewish scientists and engineers guilty of creating the greatness of Russia? There are plenty of names. And in what? And before whom?
        To look for the causes of troubles and problems in another nationality is a sign of recognition of their own worthlessness and inferiority. Let’s say how Ukrainian Poles and Westerners look in Russians.
        PS And who are we Russians?
        1. invisibility
          invisibility 2 February 2014 09: 06
          -1
          Quote: There was a mammoth
          Benefactor. I will most humblely expect.

          Very dramatic! Excuse me, did not recognize you in makeup?
          I understood everything, you have a monologue. Sorry to interrupt.
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 2 February 2014 13: 11
            0
            Quote: invisible
            Very dramatic!

            Artist?
        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 3 February 2014 20: 42
          0
          Quote: There was a mammoth
          PS And who are we Russians?

          Well, well, it is well said, but where to fasten about 100-115 thousand "old-regime" purely Russians, destroyed for the glory of LD Trotsky at the insistence of R.S. Zalkind and B. Kun, SLON, STON, etc. s, e.t.s. ...
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 1 February 2014 07: 35
    +9
    After all, until 1937, they were mainly repressed. And after 1937, as a rule, they were already repressed.
    How all is true. Moreover, those who destroyed the Russians before 25 again came to power 1937 years ago. Look at the population decline. Here they are Yeltsin repressions.
  9. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 1 February 2014 07: 37
    +15
    And here the question arises, which is inconvenient for Stalin's detractors: how to explain their fishy silence when it comes to the chilling senseless atrocities of the "Trotskyists" that took place before the notorious 1937. The answer lies on the surface. After all, until 1937, they were mainly repressed. And after 1937, as a rule, they were already repressed.

    As a result of the putsch in October 1993, their descendants seized power. Bronstein's descendants have appropriated national property and are planning for a long time. And for this, the "chosen by God" will "rot" our symbol of VICTORY, attributing all their atrocities to Stalin.
  10. Neophyte
    Neophyte 1 February 2014 07: 38
    +20
    It is interesting that Stalin did not come to power on 1937., In 1939. Since 1922, the faithful Leninists had power.
    The struggle at the top was fierce, as a result, Stalin managed to destroy Trotskyism in the party, destroying so
    called the Leninist Guard with a Zionist bias. That's why modern people hate it so much
    Svanidze with comrades.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 1 February 2014 10: 48
      +2
      Neophyte
      It is interesting that Stalin did not come to power on 1937., In 1939. Since 1922, the faithful Leninists had power.
      The struggle at the top was fierce, as a result, Stalin managed to destroy Trotskyism in the party, destroying so
      called the Leninist Guard with a Zionist bias. That's why modern people hate it so much
      Svanidze with comrades.


      The most ignorant nonsense.
      Stalin was a faithful Leninist, and he never deviated from Lenin's plans for the construction of a socialist state.
      The "Lenin guard" was invented after the death of Stalin by the Trotskyist Khrushchev and enrolled himself and all the Trotskyists in it.

      At the Plenum of the Central Committee of the RCP (B.) On 3 on April 1922, Stalin was elected to the Politburo and the Organizing Bureau of the Central Committee of the RCP (B.), As well as the Secretary General of the Central Committee of the RCP (B.). Initially, this position meant only the leadership of the party apparatus, and the Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of the RSFSR Lenin continued to be perceived as the leader of the party and government.
      Since the 1922 of the year, due to illness, Lenin has actually moved away from political activity. Inside the Politburo, Stalin, Zinoviev and Kamenev organized a “troika” based on countering Trotsky. All three party leaders at that time combined a number of key posts. Zinoviev led the influential Leningrad Party organization, while being chairman of the Executive Committee of the Comintern. Kamenev headed the Moscow Party organization and at the same time also led the Labor and Defense Council, which brought together a number of key people's commissariats. With the departure of Lenin from political activity, it was Kamenev who most often became the chairman of the Council of People's Commissars instead. Stalin, on the other hand, united leadership at the same time as the Secretariat and the Organizing Bureau of the Central Committee, also heading the Rabkrin and the People’s Commissariat.

      Trotsky was a pre-war councilor and a member of the PB of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b), in 1924 Trotsky was dismissed from the post of Chairman of the military council and sent to economic activities in 1927, expelled from the party, exiled to Turkey in 1929, and stripped of USSR citizenship in 1932. The former Menshevik Trotsky has never been a faithful Leninist or a Zionist; he was an internationalist and an "ardent revolutionary."
      1. alleksSalut4507
        alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 23: 52
        0
        he had wealthy relatives over the hill
      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 3 February 2014 20: 46
        0
        Quote: Corsair5912
        The former Menshevik Trotsky has never been a faithful Leninist or a Zionist; he was an internationalist and an "ardent revolutionary."

        Di have already been informed: "How did he get hit by a tram on my street ..."
      3. kotvov
        kotvov 3 February 2014 21: 30
        0
        you forgot something, as the same Lenin called Trotsky, this political prot.ti.utka, and he covered himself accordingly.
  11. ZU-23
    ZU-23 1 February 2014 07: 44
    +6
    When they talk about the victims of the Stalinist repressions, I immediately ask a question, but what about the victims in more detail)))
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 1 February 2014 10: 16
      +8
      Quote: ZU-23
      Well, ka in more detail about the victims)))

      +. My grandfather at 37 shot his brother, a school teacher. But here's a snag — he wasn’t always him. In the 20s he was an active revolutionary, as part of the BSSR government. And there Tukhachevsky taxied in those years. Here the reason for his execution is buried, and the liberals expose this as a banal execution of a rural teacher.
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 1 February 2014 14: 52
        0
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        +. My grandfather at 37 shot his brother, a school teacher. But here's a snag — he wasn’t always him. In the 20s he was an active revolutionary, as part of the BSSR government. And there Tukhachevsky taxied in those years. Here the reason for his execution is buried, and the liberals expose this as a banal execution of a rural teacher.

        Those. do you think you did the right thing?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 1 February 2014 17: 14
          +5
          Quote: Nayhas
          Those. do you think you did the right thing?

          I do not exclude it.
          1. Falcon5555
            Falcon5555 1 February 2014 21: 45
            -1
            And do not regret that the grandfather of that ... not shot. After all, he was the brother of an active revolutionary from the government of the BSSR where Tukhachevsky taxied. By the way, who was he himself?
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 1 February 2014 22: 19
              0
              Quote: Falcon5555
              By the way, who was he himself?

              The grandfather was a kid at that time, and in the 37th he was also mocked, but acquitted.
              1. Falcon5555
                Falcon5555 1 February 2014 23: 31
                0
                "Muryzhili", that is, arrested? It seems that way back then. They came at night and took them away. How many sat while sorted out? Is it right that he was sitting?
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  13. IIIOPOXA
    IIIOPOXA 1 February 2014 07: 51
    +2
    STALIN IS NOT ON THEM !!!
    1. ruslan207
      ruslan207 1 February 2014 15: 47
      -6
      IIOPOXA-Well, for you, not everything is lost in North Korea yet.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 3 February 2014 20: 49
        0
        Quote: ruslan207
        Well for you, not everything is lost

        Have you done circumcision?
    2. ruslan207
      ruslan207 1 February 2014 15: 47
      -3
      IIOPOXA-Well, for you, not everything is lost in North Korea yet.
  14. valokordin
    valokordin 1 February 2014 08: 02
    +6
    Quote: Neophyte
    It is interesting that Stalin did not come to power on 1937., In 1939. Since 1922, the faithful Leninists had power.
    The struggle at the top was fierce, as a result, Stalin managed to destroy Trotskyism in the party, destroying so
    called the Leninist Guard with a Zionist bias. That's why modern people hate it so much
    Svanidze with comrades.

    If we recall the story, then the name of the first wife I.V. Stalin Catherine was Svanidze, is this Svinadze not taking revenge as a relative. All talk of bloody Stalin, especially if they come from the country's leadership, should be considered as actions aimed at the destruction of Russia. It is clear that the personal interests of many of them are in American banks. Even so, they must give up their billions for the sake of saving the country and people, or go to where they are at ease, like Jude- Mikhail Gorbatom.
    1. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 1 February 2014 23: 57
      0
      under Stalin, relatives of his first wife were repressed
  15. pamero
    pamero 1 February 2014 08: 11
    +8
    All are good, but the country's interests must be defended. this is our land, we live and live on it! Shame on what people in Russia even forgotten at home Russian songs do not sing are ashamed of their language! There is no Stalin on them with his speech about the Russian people.
    1. makarov
      makarov 1 February 2014 08: 52
      -9
      ready for a minus one, but still I want to express my own point of view.
      I believe that Vera Vasilyevna, accusing the chairman of the informer of the death of her father, did not quite understand that he was only a cog in the SYSTEM of government. This begs the question: - And who specifically controlled the State of the USSR at that time ?????
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 1 February 2014 23: 58
        +1
        Well, of course, Stalin is guilty that the chairman is a scoundrel!
      2. alleksSalut4507
        alleksSalut4507 2 February 2014 00: 07
        0
        read Prudnikova E. I personally believe that until 1922, half of those who knew what they were ready for a bright future had already died.
      3. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 3 February 2014 20: 51
        0
        Quote: makarov
        And who specifically ruled the State of the USSR at that time ?????

        And what does Mossad therefore convey?
  16. Bator79
    Bator79 1 February 2014 08: 16
    +12
    Stalin is the greatest ruler in the history of Russia. The creator of the most powerful state in the history of Russia. His successor was to be Beria. But Khrushchev poisoned the Leader and shot Beria ... Renamed Stalingrad ... A bucket of washes in his coffin as Wasserman said
    1. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 2 February 2014 00: 10
      0
      Khru obviously did not have enough cerebral circulation. But he didn’t seem to respect fat either. He liked the word “corn” from the word “maize”, but he didn’t know how to fly.
    2. shevron
      shevron 2 February 2014 02: 09
      -2
      Quote: Bator79
      Stalin is the greatest ruler in the history of Russia.

      Beginning of the year 41 - approximately 4.5 million captured RKK soldiers, in fact, the entire personnel army before mobilization lost tanks in number comparable to all tanks of the WORLD, of which almost 2 are the latest with incomparable T 34 and KV tens of thousands of artillery barrels and aviation burned out at the airport . Where was the greatest ruler? How could he miscalculate? How could he, the GREAT STRATEG - GENERALISIMUS, leave the enemy everything that was prepared for defense with sweat and blood and for many years. How could he make military deliveries (arm) the Nazis knowing that Germany was the aggressor? Mine Kampf was not written in June 41. Without such victims, VICTORY 45 would not have been possible? Germany in a war on two fronts WITHOUT STALIN was able to put the FAU 2 on the conveyor and shell London. And when did the Soviet counterpart fly? In Germany - WITHOUT STALIN serially !!!!! fighter jets were produced. And in the USSR? Look on the net .... In 1942, in wartime conditions, he earned money in the USA and WITHOUT STALIN !!!! first nuclear reactor and then bam and BOMB !!! And where was the USSR? Gad Adolf from 33 to 39 built not only an excellent army but also with advanced technologies. But for the USSR from 1921 to 41 there was not enough time ... and I absolutely do not see the merits of Stalin. Everything was done by the Soviet people. And he built the country and won the war. HONOR AND PRAISE TO THE PEOPLE - THE WINNER !!!!!
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 2 February 2014 02: 14
        +1
        Beginning of 41 years - approximately 4.5 million captured RKK soldiers, in fact, the entire personnel army before mobilization lost tanks in terms of quantity comparable to all MIR tanks

        What does Stalin explain? As far as I know, commanders of armies, generals, general staff are in charge of the armies, why do you blame him and not the example of General Pavlov, who drank during the attack because it was he who had to monitor the combat readiness of the troops subordinate to him? Or the general staff who should deal with the strategy?
        1. shevron
          shevron 2 February 2014 02: 43
          -1
          Well, sorry. I got it all mixed up. The party of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks nominated people to the post of People’s Commissar of Defense and Chief of General Staff in those years, Stalin watched aside. So the party was to blame for all the miscalculations because it made a mistake in choosing the leadership of the Red Army. they didn’t hold such responsible positions during the war. They didn’t listen to Stalin’s opinion, they just obeyed him
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 2 February 2014 02: 49
            0
            This suggests that you really do not understand how power was organized in those years, Stalin was not the one who makes decisions individually, he was not a monarch but was a manager, but influential, authoritative, but the party played a decisive role and there was no need to blame everything on 1st person, although I understand it easier for you.
            1. shevron
              shevron 2 February 2014 03: 01
              -1
              Please tell us, but there were people in the party who thought not in Stalinist style and what happened to them later.
              1. tilovaykrisa
                tilovaykrisa 2 February 2014 03: 06
                0
                And what does it mean to think in Stalinist style? According to you, under Stalin, everyone thought Staninski under Brezhnev, Brezhnevsk under Yeltsin in Yeltsin's, so what?
                1. shevron
                  shevron 2 February 2014 03: 14
                  0
                  I did not read the names .... Who among his entourage did not share his opinion - at least one name.
                  1. tilovaykrisa
                    tilovaykrisa 2 February 2014 03: 21
                    0
                    please, what is your last name Khrushchev? After all, he said this openly at the 20th Party Congress, and many supported him, note that they were living dissenting, not shot, and not planted by a bloody tyrant.
                    1. shevron
                      shevron 2 February 2014 04: 41
                      0
                      It is a pity Stalin did not hear the speech of the 20th Congress. If he were alive from the stands they would shout GLORY TO COMRADE STALIN! Do you have doubts about this? During the life of the leader, there were those around him who opposed HIS will, were there those who stood up at the meeting of the Politburo and said Koba you were wrong and after that lived happily ever after?
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 2 February 2014 04: 16
          +1
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          What does Stalin explain?

          Because now that there is no demand in everything from Putin!
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 2 February 2014 04: 28
            +1
            Clearly, nothing changes, it’s easier to find a switchman than to understand what is happening.
      2. housekeeper
        housekeeper 2 February 2014 02: 39
        +4
        shevron is one of the verses of the song "won in spite of?" If this is so, then why can't we now "in spite of" everything repeat at least half of what was done under Stalin. To repeat everything you've done, you need to be an outstanding organizer. So Stalin, if not the greatest, then one of the greatest rulers of Russia.
        1. shevron
          shevron 2 February 2014 02: 56
          +3
          I agree with you. Only now I think the price is high. In the Wehrmacht, a soldier’s blood was appreciated. Maybe that's why the victory was at 45 and not 50. It is a pity for our soldiers. I don’t pass by the graves, and they buried it mainly in the offensive. And in other cases, the trench funnel is a grave without a hill and memory. And then Comrade Stalin ... I am proud of the history of my people, but there are moments in it about which it’s better not to recall
      3. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 3 February 2014 21: 04
        0
        Quote: shevron
        HONOR AND PRAISE TO THE PEOPLE - THE WINNER !!!!!

        Could put one more exclamation mark. Only you look, Svidomo, with a minus sign (the winner). Your math doesn't suit us. Read in your "nete" why the amerikosov had enough fuses for about five bombs, and then for about three years there were solid "projectors". Your admiration for the successes of Nazi Germany is undeniable, so kiss your beloved "Adi" v dupu. And our fathers pulled your favorites without any technological tricks in 1945.
        1. shevron
          shevron 4 February 2014 00: 02
          0
          Eka how you spun! Enrages you with my zhovto - black flag. You react like a bull to red. Reduce your ardor. Your well-fed ambition is painfully felt. The soldiers of the Red Army were simpler and lived cleaner than their descendants. You used German as a trophy, and YOU? What do you have Russian other than a seized body. Is the toothbrush even Russian? Or MADE IN ... We've seen such russkikh.Budte Russian to the end, not half ... And don't brand me "Svidomo". 15 years ago, he worked at a factory where there were still trophy machines and worked well. Would have been bad for a long time would have gone to smelting. If he ... you are all foreign, then it's time to switch to domestic.
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 6 February 2014 19: 39
            +1
            Quote: shevron
            . Since heh .. you are all overseas then it's time to switch to domestic.

            Who is against? Your lords in the first place, and our r "guss rulers = definitely!
  17. Lyokha79
    Lyokha79 1 February 2014 08: 22
    +16
    Under Stalin there was everything - hunger and repression, but there was also the rapid development of the country and the Greatest Victory. Undoubtedly, he stopped the "Red Terror", which was carried out by Trotsky and his henchmen. But even during his reign, people were shot, put in prisons and camps, and to be honest, there were also innocent people. I am not a historian, but it seems to me that here the numbers of the repressed are greatly overestimated. It was such that people, out of stupidity or malice, wrote denunciations on their own acquaintances, neighbors and colleagues at work. From the moment of his coming to power until the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, Stalin managed, in addition to industrialization, to create a single, monolithic society, to rally the country and people. The fact that at the most critical moment of the War, when the Nazis were at the walls of Moscow, Stalin did not leave the capital, strengthened the morale of its defenders and residents, since the authorities are not evacuated, then we will defend Moscow. And he characterizes Stalin from the most positive side.
    All attempts to denigrate Stalin, to equate him with Hitler or, in general, to erase him from the history of our country are reduced to one idea - to take away from us Victory in the most terrible war in the history of mankind, to make us "Ivanov who do not remember kinship", to deprive him of not much what else unites our people.
  18. demotivator
    demotivator 1 February 2014 08: 29
    +11
    Quote: SPACE
    Stubbornly oppresses a blatant lie, calculated to achieve the Effect,

    Cosmos, you not only went too far, but you also committed inadmissible rudeness towards me. You find in my posts a lie that I stubbornly "gnu" - prove it. Why stoop to insults? You can be sure that I, too, can shave off so much that it will not seem a little. My upbringing and site rules do not allow me to go down to the level of bullshit. Now to the point. You are hooked on my phrase about the current devastation. And I should have written that the economy is on the rise, agriculture is not in poverty and the country provides itself with food, that we produce for ourselves and for the sale of all types of industrial products, as in the USSR, that we are building housing and " FREE OF CHARGE "we give it to people, that today we have housing services like under Stalin, that our education is still the best in the world?
    Now about the fact that
    Quote: SPACE
    PUTIN MUST GO

    Notice, I didn’t say that. If you think you should leave, write it. I only wrote in my post that the current rulers would not hurt to learn a lot from Stalin. So what? If you do not agree - refute, but essentially without rudeness and politicking. I wanted to add a moron, but I won’t.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 February 2014 09: 22
      0
      Quote: demotivator
      You got hooked on my phrase about the current devastation.

      Now the devastation, then, what happened in the 90s? And second, after reading your response to koment
      Quote: GregAzov
      Lenin and Trotsky staged a civil, massacre of the best minds of Russia, and the expulsion of the rest abroad from their homeland.

      You agree with this, but then why on your avatar is Lenin, not Stalin?
      1. demotivator
        demotivator 1 February 2014 10: 01
        +6
        And what's the difference in the devastation of the 90s today? The important thing is that it is. Or is she not? But this is not the topic of the article, a separate thorough discussion is needed here, otherwise we will simply get away from the repressions, their causes and initiators.
        As for the avatar - that he found it and set it, all the more so since Stalin himself never separated himself from Lenin anywhere. Yes, I generally do not care about all these external attributes like an avatar, stars on shoulder straps, etc. Though, if only because I have enough of my real, honored ones. So this is not the point.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 1 February 2014 10: 05
          -7
          Quote: demotivator
          And what's the difference in the devastation of the 90s today?

          Don't you notice her at all?
          Quote: demotivator
          that Stalin himself never separated himself from Lenin anywhere.

          Putin also opened a monument to Yeltsin, and Stalin opened Lenin.
          With regards to the avatar, well, if you do not care, put the avatar of Trotsky wink
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 1 February 2014 12: 15
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            put Trotsky's avatar

            With a big ice ax in a smart head! I agree.
          2. Ustas
            Ustas 2 February 2014 09: 11
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Putin is also a monument to Yeltsin

            Are you proud of it?
        2. alleksSalut4507
          alleksSalut4507 2 February 2014 00: 30
          0
          rules of conduct are given by parenting. the family is strong in stability. stability is determined by a strong State. a strong State protects its citizens.
        3. Corsair
          Corsair 2 February 2014 04: 28
          +1
          Quote: demotivator
          And what's the difference in the devastation of 90's today? The important thing is that it is. Or is she not?

          At the present time, the devastation is more in the HEADS than in the SORTS ... We are slowly rebuilding the "Toilets", but with the STATE, patriotic thinking, while not everyone is in order ...

          But this is surmountable, the will to do so.
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    3. SPACE
      SPACE 1 February 2014 10: 47
      -1
      Quote: demotivator
      And even then, someone "Kosmos" wrote me to the liberals for sympathies with Stalin. Some kind of schizophrenia, how can a Stalinist be a liberal?

      So I'm a Stalinist too! You read your previous comments, “they don’t even make oil and gas fittings” google heavy fittings ... they don’t make pipes, well, why are you wrong? laughing
      Quote: demotivator
      Cosmos, you didn’t just go too far

      That you went too far
      Quote: demotivator
      moron
  19. clidon
    clidon 1 February 2014 08: 30
    0
    Stalin created a strong country that everyone feared. For the absolute majority present here, this justifies anything, any crime. They either did not exist, or other people did it, or they (events) generally coincide. In this article, all the blame is shifted to the bad Jews. And what does the 37th year have to do with it? Although anyone more or less interested in history knows even the officially authorized figures for these years. What a surge in the fight against the "fifth column".
  20. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 1 February 2014 09: 13
    +2
    Stalinism is, first of all, “think about your homeland first, and then about yourself”

    On this point, I completely agree with the author.
    The thesis that JV Stalin through the system created by the Trotskyists, and on legal grounds, punished the zealous executioners of Russia, but could not completely change the "System" called "The Party is the mind, honor and conscience of our era" I have repeatedly expressed. Judging by the author's article, I am not the only one who adheres to this point of view.
  21. major071
    major071 1 February 2014 09: 20
    +13
    Immediately after the death of I.V. Stalin's name and his deeds began to rot. Remember Khrushchev's "secret report" in 1956 at the XX Party Congress "on the personality cult and its consequences." This is how they have been trying to convince us for more than half a century that Stalin was a tyrant. Especially this tendency began to be seen in recent years, when liberals and shitcrats came to power. For them, Stalin's name is like a red rag for a bull.
  22. stroporez
    stroporez 1 February 2014 09: 24
    +4
    I've always been interested in ---------- when the Trotskyists - Leninists shredded the people -------- everything exactly. And how they began to shred from then and holes opened. In our time, the clearest example of Trotskyism- Leninism is a "civilized" world. See for yourself ------ they kill people all over the world, and I can’t tell them anything, but how they will blow up or shoot where the thread is --- the howl begins ........
    1. Bator79
      Bator79 1 February 2014 14: 53
      0
      I do not agree about Lenin. Stalin always emphasized that he was a student of Lenin .. And about the Trotsky Jew to the point
  23. calocha
    calocha 1 February 2014 10: 17
    +3
    Putin should read this article and check in the archives ... make sure ... And then he doesn’t have ... 37years.
  24. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 1 February 2014 10: 19
    +18
    Russia will slide into the abyss and degrade until the de-Stalinizers are allocated ropes and soap, greenback and 9 grams in shiny packaging.
  25. Slavapom
    Slavapom 1 February 2014 10: 43
    +9
    regarding repressions, if social protection measures are applied to thieves, saboteurs, outright wreckers, murderers, called repressions, then our modern society is no different from the days of Stalin, moreover, now Russia is serving a sentence in prison, more people than under Stalin, that is, it turns out that we are now undergoing mass repression. Someone can say about the innocently convicted, but at the moment the innocent convicted and serving their sentences are no less than under Stalin. Another interesting fact is that during the time of the so-called repressions, the number of acquittals was significantly greater than with the so-called democracy.
  26. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 1 February 2014 11: 07
    +9
    A huge army of crooks, thieves and scoundrels, which flooded the whole of Russia, direct evidence that Stalin was right.
  27. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 1 February 2014 11: 10
    +13
    And Serdyukov shoot. And the people will not understand.
    1. Orang
      Orang 1 February 2014 11: 44
      +6
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      And Serdyukov shoot. And the people will not understand.

      And he does not care, he will understand, he will not understand. How old is Serdyuk tricked and nothing. Only as a scapegoat will the GDP punish Serdyukov when there is need.
      How long would Stalin steer like a commissar and what would happen to him?
      1. alone
        alone 1 February 2014 12: 10
        +3
        Quote: Orang
        Only as a scapegoat will the GDP punish Serdyukov when there is need.


        They will not punish them. They do not put them on their own. Maximum suspended sentence.
      2. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 1 February 2014 13: 07
        +3
        Quote: Orang
        And he does not care, he will understand, he will not understand. How old is Serdyuk tricked and nothing. Only as a scapegoat will the GDP punish Serdyukov when there is need.
        How long would Stalin steer like a commissar and what would happen to him?

        Serdyukov is Viti Zubkov’s son-in-law, and he is an inviolable person, by the standards of liberals.
        Special Representative of the President of the Russian Federation for Cooperation with the Forum of Gas Exporting Countries (GECF) since May 2012. Chairman of the Gazprom Board of Directors since June 2008 First Deputy Prime Minister in the government of V. Putin. In the cabinet of ministers oversaw the development of agriculture and fisheries. Prior to this, for eight months - from September to May 2008. - was the prime minister of Russia. His son-in-law is working in the current government - Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov.
        Read in full: http://www.rbc.ru/persons/zubkov.shtml
      3. Ossetian.
        Ossetian. 1 February 2014 19: 00
        +5
        STALIN WOULD ORDERED TO CHECK HIM TO THE "POPL MBR" AND SEND TO THE WEST, DIRECT TO THE PLACE FROM WHERE HE GOT INSTRUCTIONS !!!
  28. Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 1 February 2014 11: 15
    +13
    I was not a Stalinist and graduation from school fell on the years when perestroika began to rage across the country, and schools were increasingly talking about the "cult of Stalin's personality", "repression", "executions of honored commanders" ... Putna, Kork, Eideman, Feldman, Yakir .. "Progressive and deeply positive Zinoviev and Kamenev." The teachers-historians of the new formation were calling like that. But time passed and put everything in its place, at least for me personally. A period of 25 years, from the Yeltsin vacakhanaly to the present day, they made me, if not a Stalinist, then deeply revered this outstanding person. These are the metamorphoses. I think so for many.
  29. Name
    Name 1 February 2014 11: 25
    +11
    Quote: Ivanovich47
    The huge army of crooks, thieves and villains that invaded all of Russia is direct evidence that Stalin was right.

    Not only Stalin spoke about this ...
    1. atalef
      atalef 1 February 2014 11: 39
      0
      Quote: name
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      The huge army of crooks, thieves and villains that invaded all of Russia is direct evidence that Stalin was right.

      Not only Stalin spoke about this ...

      MAO - you say? Is this the one that broke (practically) relations with the USSR and went closer to the USA?
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 1 February 2014 13: 16
        +6
        Quote: atalef
        MAO - you say? Is this the one that broke (practically) relations with the USSR and went closer to the USA?

        Mao did not break off relations with the USSR and did not go closer to the United States.
        Mao despised Khrushchev and did not want to deal with him, but the USSR had nothing to do with it.
        And his policy towards the United States in his words:
        American imperialism seems huge, but in fact it is a paper tiger and makes death attempts. Let American imperialism not think that it will hide from us across the ocean ...
      2. alleksSalut4507
        alleksSalut4507 2 February 2014 00: 44
        0
        Mao respected Stalin. And he knew why. And with Merika he just played. Now Merika plays ....
    2. Bator79
      Bator79 1 February 2014 13: 54
      +3
      +100500 ... MAO knew that Khrushchev poisoned the Leader, and therefore quarreled with him
  30. demotivator
    demotivator 1 February 2014 11: 35
    +6
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    With regards to the avatar, well, if you do not care, put the avatar of Trotsky

    Slid into some little thing: avatars, monuments to Yeltsin, etc. But can I decide what to do, how to think and what avatars to put? Although, in response, I can advise someone to change the avatar with a cigar to a similar one, but only with Churchill. Cool too. Just a hunt, some kind of has begun.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 3 February 2014 21: 47
      0
      Yes, you do not pay attention, you understand, when there is nothing to say, nit-picking begins: you were not there, you were not thinking.
  31. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 1 February 2014 13: 10
    +7
    Do not touch Stalin! Or they forgot that he accepted Russia with a plow, and left with a nuclear club! Forgot who carried out the industrialization of the country as soon as possible, which subsequently allowed the world to be free from fascism. Russia needs such a ruler now! And there wouldn’t be 15-17 separately taken, beggars, torn by wars and contradictions of pseudo-states. And with Ktai we wouldn’t overrun .. in due time, but together we would have steered.
  32. Bator79
    Bator79 1 February 2014 13: 12
    +9
    Russia still lives on the foundations laid by Stalin. Thanks to Stalin, Russia survived in the 90s.
  33. dropout
    dropout 1 February 2014 13: 30
    +3
    At the 2 congress of the RSDLP, the Central Committee was elected to coordinate the preparations for the revolution in Russia, as a result of which millions of Russian people died, and not only. Here are their last names:
    Trotsky (Bronstein)
    Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
    Zinoviev (Radomylsky)
    Martov (Cederbaum)
    Vladimirov (Scheinfinkel)
    Ganetsky (Fustenberg)
    Meshkovsky (Gurevich Emil Leibovich)
    Diary (Cederbaum)
    Koltsov (Ginsburg)
    Kirilenko (Abramovich)
    Levitsky (Zderbaum)
    Lyadov (Mendelstam)
    Vinnitsa (Greenberg)
    Meshkovsky (Goldenberg)
    Glass (Nahamkis)
    Sukhanov (Himmer)
    Pavlovich (Volshkan)
    Ryazannov (Goldendach)
    Chutak (nakhimovich)
    Andreev
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 1 February 2014 17: 46
      +2
      Quote: dropout
      At the 2 congress of the RSDLP, the Central Committee was elected to coordinate the preparations for the revolution in Russia, as a result of which millions of Russian people died, and not only. Here are their last names:
      Trotsky (Bronstein)

      Impudent lies, for gullible ignoramuses.
      The 2th Congress of the RSDLP was organizational, and there was no discussion of any coordination of revolutions. G. M. Krzhizhanovsky, F. V. Lengnik, V. A. Noskov, who co-opted F. V. Gusarov, R. S. Zemlyachka, L. B. Krasin, and M. M. Essen, were elected to the Party Central Committee. Further, at different times, members of R. b. The Central Committee was A. A. Bogdanov, F. I. Goloshchekin, I. F. Dubrovinsky, K. S. Eremeev, P. A. Zalutsky, M. I. Kalinin, V. M. Molotov, M. K. Muranov, V.P. Nogin, G.K. Ordzhonikidze, G.I. Petrovsky, D.S. Postolovsky, Y. M. Sverdlov, S.S. Spandaryan, I.V. Stalin, E.D. Stasova.
      There was never any Trotsky in the Central Committee of the RSDLP, he was a Menshevik and did not belong to Lenin's supporters until 1917.
      There were no victims of the February revolution, 210 people buried on the Champ de Mars in Leningrad, there were no victims at all in the October Revolution. The guards of the Winter Palace laid down their arms without the slightest resistance; the Provisional Government was arrested without firing a shot.
      1. Starina_hank
        Starina_hank 1 February 2014 19: 51
        0
        I read that 6 people were killed during the assault.
      2. dropout
        dropout 2 February 2014 00: 04
        0
        Quote: Corsair5912
        Impudent lies, for gullible ignoramuses.
        Good. Perhaps I am poorly savvy in this matter. But I think that you will not deny the authenticity of this list of surnames.
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 2 February 2014 12: 20
          0
          Quote: dropout
          Good. Perhaps I am poorly savvy in this matter. But I think that you will not deny the authenticity of this list of surnames.


          Why on earth would I deny your list of surnames?
          I deny the involvement of these people in the Russian bureau of the Central Committee of the RSDLP.
    2. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 1 February 2014 22: 19
      +1
      People who accuse the Jews of all mortal sins willingly or not make the Russians some kind of stupid and cowardly bastards. The mole lived themselves happily and then the Jewish Bolsheviks came forward and let the Russians be harassed. But the Russians helped them in every way for some reason. The Russians are not ideal of course, but and they’re not so stupid. There were reasons. By the way, how many Jews were there in Russia? 3-4 percent? It turns out what Russian weaklings that allowed these 3-4 percent of atrocities to create atrocities, so what?
      It’s interesting by the way, but if Serdyukov is punished it will be considered genocide of the Russian people?
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 2 February 2014 12: 27
        +1
        Quote: rkkasa 81
        People who accuse the Jews of all mortal sins voluntarily make a stupid and cowardly bastard of the Russians. The mole lived themselves happily and then the Jewish Bolsheviks attacked and let the Russians be plagued.

        For the most part, the lies about the great role of Jews in the Russian revolution and in history are composed and spread by the Jews themselves. All those with ambiguous or non-Russian surnames are admitted to the Jews: Ukrainians, Belorussians, Balts, Ostseey Germans, etc.
        It’s interesting by the way, but if Serdyukov is punished it will be considered genocide of the Russian people?

        If the prosecutor or judge is non-Russian, they will certainly declare the genocide of the Russian people.
  34. EvilLion
    EvilLion 1 February 2014 13: 45
    +4
    In 37, the plot of Tukhachevsky was uncovered, the reprisals in the second half of the year, its consequences, when the authorities had already been given carte blanche and lawlessness had begun, some had personal scores, and some for another benefit. Beria had to stop already, the innocent were rehabilitated back in 38-39. Rehabilitated later with 99% probability should be considered illegally rehabilitated. As a result, all these gangs, including the Jewish one, gobbled up each other, and the vacant posts were occupied by the Russians.
    1. Bator79
      Bator79 1 February 2014 13: 52
      +5
      Beria’s parish marked the end of the repressions of Yagoda and Yezhov .. review of cases and release of tens of thousands of people
      1. olviko
        olviko 1 February 2014 16: 45
        +1
        "Yezhova .."

        The Union People’s Commissar Yezhov, receiving from Grigory Kobyzev, the head of the personnel department of the NKVD of the Ukrainian SSR, a report on the personnel of the Ukrainian security officers in February 1938, said: “I looked at the personnel — not Ukraine, but Birobidzhan”. Jews accounted for only 6,5% of the population of Ukraine in 1926. But figures based on surveys in the archives of the Security Service of Ukraine indicate that 1929% were Jews in leadership positions in the GPU of the Ukrainian SSR in 1931-38, and Jews accounted for 1932% of all leaders during the Holodomor of 1933-66,6 punitive organs of the republic. A part of the Chekists hid their Jewish origin under pseudonyms. For example, Alexander Rozanov, the head of the NKVD department in the Odessa region in 1935-1937, later admitted during interrogation: “I am Abram Rosenbrandt, Jew. He wrote his name and nationality differently from shame. ”
  35. luka095
    luka095 1 February 2014 13: 57
    +6
    Article "plus". Clearly and distinctly stated position.
  36. Bator79
    Bator79 1 February 2014 14: 20
    +2
    Quote: dropout
    to prepare for a revolution in Russia, which killed millions of Russian people

    send this joke to Petrosyan))))
  37. 528Obrp
    528Obrp 1 February 2014 14: 30
    +5
    So much “rubbish” has been marked on his grave that it would be time for the “wind of history" to begin its cleansing functions.
    The wind of history will sweep him away!

    From plow to a nuclear superpower - this is his mark in the history of the USSR and Russia.
  38. groin
    groin 1 February 2014 15: 12
    +5
    Article and grandmother are a big plus. The legs of all our problems grow from where all these larvae (pouring mud on I.V. Stalin) run and send money. Block the road and everything will fall into place. Everything will be rewarded.
  39. Orakyl
    Orakyl 1 February 2014 15: 13
    +6
    The people before felt about Stalin lying to us! therefore, the photos in the cars and the name were pronounced with respect. The liberals and Anglo-Saxons (which are basically the same thing) did everything possible to denigrate him and put all possible labels on him, understanding that if his ideas were revived, they would do the same as Stalin did to the Trotskyists and Co. Personally, it’s clear to me that the liberals themselves will never give up power voluntarily, they need to be removed and expelled from Russia, to their families and money to the west, and whoever doesn’t want to lose the feeder ... ... it’s impossible to use Stalin’s method with enemies!
  40. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 1 February 2014 15: 21
    +7
    Somehow like this...
    1. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 2 February 2014 00: 58
      0
      maybe senk?
  41. Nayhas
    Nayhas 1 February 2014 15: 52
    -9
    And then an uncomfortable question arises for Stalin's detractors: how can one explain their fishy silence when it comes to the chilling soulless atrocities of the “Trotskyists” that took place before the notorious 1937 year.

    Another Stalinist with a mess in his head. In general, they curse the entire Bolshevik gang among which Stalin was listed. Stalin is just the successor of Lenin's cause, which he has repeatedly stated. All of them are not looking for a gang of criminals in the bloody rivers of the ford. The author is trying to wipe Stalin from the blood under the pretext that the blood from his crimes lay on the already shed blood, this is a clear sign of the author's inadequacy. The fact that among the people killed by Stalin were the executioners does not mean that he is not a criminal. Moreover, the executioners were killed not for their crimes against the people, but for possible disloyalty. And by the way, there were Stalinists among the killed executioners. For example, Nikolai Yezhov, a pure Stalinist, hated the Trotskyists no less than Stalin. Moreover, Yezhov since 1930. engaged in the selection of personnel for the Stalinist team, being the head of the Organizational Distribution Department until 1934. Since 1934 he is in the Party Control Commission, in the most responsible place, he cleans the Party of Trotskyists. Since 1936. he is the people's commissar of internal affairs. The indictment contained a lot of things, even the fact that "Acting for anti-Soviet and selfish purposes, Yezhov organized the murders of people he disliked, and also had sexual intercourse with men (sodomy)." But no one accused him of Trotskyism, an ardent Stalinist and executioner fell from the hand of his master, who drove him like an obedient pen for many years, and the crimes he committed are the crimes of Stalin himself.
    1. Falcon5555
      Falcon5555 1 February 2014 21: 06
      -8
      Stalinism-Leninism would have long been recognized as a crime against humanity. What is there to argue about?
      1. Bator79
        Bator79 1 February 2014 21: 28
        +3
        come on facts
  42. Ossetian.
    Ossetian. 1 February 2014 18: 40
    +6
    I am 30 years old and I did not live under Stalin, but every day when I think about him tears flow. I go to bed and dream at least once in a dream to see him. I remember how my Father spoke about him, and so his tears flowed.

    And those who defame his name and throw mud at him know that this is all that you are capable of, you are poor cripples in your heart .... You and your kings disappear and you are all gone, and Stalin is forever in our hearts !!!

    GOD AND TRUTH WITH US!

    GLORY TO STALIN !!!
    Glory to Putin !!!
    GLORY TO RUSSIA!!!
  43. sinukvl
    sinukvl 1 February 2014 19: 06
    +7
    I read the comments, came to interesting conclusions, if those who support Stalin try to express their opinion and give facts, and in general (in most cases) conduct a fairly correct dialogue, then for those who are against Stalin, expressing their opinions is reduced to the style of "himself", there are no facts and they cite, but much less often and more often known precisely from the time of Khrushchev. The conclusion suggests itself, gentlemen, to throw mud at a person is not the main thing, the main thing is to shout louder. Time passes, but the methods are still the same Khrushchev's.
    1. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 1 February 2014 22: 47
      +2
      Quote: Falcon5555
      Stalinism-Leninism would have long been recognized as a crime against humanity. What is there to argue about?

      A vivid example of the correctness of your words.
  44. IMI35
    IMI35 1 February 2014 19: 41
    +3
    We are now very Stalin is not enough!
    1. shevron
      shevron 2 February 2014 02: 20
      0
      Suffer to you still Stalin ...
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 2 February 2014 02: 22
        0
        we endure with 90 g, it’s time already, otherwise de..ma divorced too much.
  45. Nitrogamer
    Nitrogamer 1 February 2014 20: 12
    +3
    Only Stalin was able to defeat the West and this needs to be done again. Who can become Stalin’s spiritual successor in Russia and Ukraine? Are there any worthy candidates among politicians?
    1. clidon
      clidon 1 February 2014 20: 48
      +1
      There is always a candidate for a dictator. The people will no longer understand the call "for work" for the party and the bright idea.
      1. rkkasa xnumx
        rkkasa xnumx 1 February 2014 23: 15
        +1
        Quote: clidon
        There is always a candidate for a dictator. The people will no longer understand the call "for work" for the party and the bright idea.

        The party generally consisted of representatives of this very people. And people did not work for the party and a bright idea, but to make their life better. Progress was obvious, from a semi-literate agrarian country constantly undernourished, to one of the most industrialized powers in the world with a high standard of living. Not everything was not always smooth, but we must not forget at what low level we had to start, what kind of war to survive, how much effort and money to spend on post-war reconstruction.
      2. Orang
        Orang 1 February 2014 23: 30
        -1
        Quote: clidon
        There is always a candidate for a dictator. The people will no longer understand the call "for work" for the party and the bright idea.

        There are not many who wish, as you think. The responsibility and risk are too great. Most candidates will run away so that now, at a more or less stable moment, they don’t talk about themselves.
        In the case of the appearance of a leader of the Stalin level, the call to work for the good will be understood by people, of course, not immediately, so the talkers ditched the credibility of the authorities.
  46. Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 1 February 2014 20: 57
    +2
    Article +. There are really a lot of lies during the Stalin era.
  47. Bator79
    Bator79 1 February 2014 21: 12
    +3
    the West brought Hitler to power (Prescott Bush) and the West declared the Cold War after Stalin refused to enter the world financial system where the main currency was the dollar
  48. Strashila
    Strashila 1 February 2014 21: 23
    +1
    Always at the beginning there is a piece of paper that launches investigation millstones ... only everyone kicks the millstones ... but nobody remembers about the parcharchuk. I can give an example from the history of our family ... during the war years, my grandfather held a position on the collective farm with a reservation at 41 was called up, but was commissioned due to heart disease, so one person decided not to go to the front to take his place ... stupid denunciation of stealing grain ... the NKVD officers arrived, were lucky ... at first they examined the documents, the other relative didn’t I was lucky ... I was a traveler on the railway ... I found a rifle near the canvas ... I arrived at the station, and they were waiting for it ... someone also needed a place with armor.
  49. Bator79
    Bator79 1 February 2014 21: 32
    +2
    Korolev, Sakharov, Keldysh, Gagarin, Makeev, etc. are all thanks to Stalin ...
    1. shevron
      shevron 2 February 2014 02: 18
      -1
      Korolev sat thanks to Stalin? Rokosovsky should also thank him for the GULUG? Want more surnames?
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 2 February 2014 02: 35
        +2
        Quote: shevron
        Korolev sat thanks to Stalin? Rokosovsky should also thank him for the GULUG? Want more surnames?



        Quote: Wikipedia
        “At the same time, it should be noted that repressions were not always completely unfounded. So, the future Marshal of the Soviet Union K.K. Rokossovsky was convicted under the 58 article. What are the reasons put forward? As the commander of a cavalry division in Transbaikalia, Rokossovsky neglected warnings of an impending sharp change in weather, raised the division on alert and led him out into the field. Cavalrymen fell under heavy rains, and then hit frosts. Horses did not have insulated sweatshirts and blankets; they were savvy in summer. There were no cloaks and overcoats and personnel. As a result, many horses fell ill and fell or broke their legs on ice. There were cases of a fatal cold among the personnel of the division. The case can, of course, be qualified as criminal negligence, but in the 1938 year KK Rokossovsky’s actions were considered wrecking "
        Reizfeld A. Wall-Mounting Tool // Uliki (Appendix to “Soviet Russia”), No. 2 (23). - 2011. - C.12.

        According to the chief aviation marshal Alexander Golovanov, in the 1962 year, N. S. Khrushchev suggested that Rokossovsky write a “blacker and thicker” article against I. V. Stalin. According to Alexander Golovanov, Rokossovsky replied: “Nikita Sergeevich, comrade Stalin is a saint for me!", - and at the banquet did not clink glasses with Khrushchev. The next day, he was finally removed from the post of Deputy Minister of Defense of the USSR.
        1. shevron
          shevron 2 February 2014 04: 00
          -2
          Sorry about Korolev, you have not read anything similar. The man was still one. I didn’t want to lie like the Golovanovs — the leader’s proteges, but the truth in those years was not held in high esteem. Although even without it, a great many scientific rocket launchers in the gulag rotted. It is good that even at the end of the war they recovered themselves and the Fritzes in this regiment helped. Rokosovsky killed horses because he was forced to complete the training task for this article in bad weather conditions? He needs to be given an order that he taught to fight in any weather. In our military unit where I served, half of the officers could be transplanted for this. Is this right? According to Stalin? And Marshal Zhukov for throwing infantry on mines in Stalin's style long ago it was necessary to shoot .... Let’s talk about Vavilov?
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 2 February 2014 04: 09
            0
            Quote: shevron
            Sorry about Korolev you have not read anything similar.

            I am extremely sorry that you were upset recourse .
            Surely Sergei Pavlovich (with all my great respect for his genius) also has his own "skeleton in the closet" ...
            1. shevron
              shevron 2 February 2014 05: 01
              +2
              Is the phrase Iron Felix and NOW relevant? (Your lack of criminal record does not mean your decency is this our flaw) It somehow gets scary. I read the paragraphs of article 58. You can transplant everyone. Even on suspicion. And the investigator does not need to prove anything. If everything returns, maybe we will meet with you ... on the bench. From the prison and from the bag you know yourself ... Remember I am shevron. There and discuss the GREAT personality ....
              1. Corsair
                Corsair 2 February 2014 08: 25
                0
                Quote: shevron
                Is the phrase Iron Felix and NOW relevant? (Your lack of criminal record does not mean your decency is this our flaw) It somehow gets scary.

                It’s becoming scary for Ukraine (I’ll discover a tiny secret, I myself am a native of Donbass) ...
                And the "flaw" of the IVS was that it did not have time to burn Banderstadt on the vine ...
                Right now, Ukraine is drinking a full cup. And if you have a rejection of what is happening, then sooner you will end up on the bunk ... Which I sincerely do NOT wish for you ...
                1. shevron
                  shevron 2 February 2014 12: 04
                  0
                  Do not move off the topic. Talk about Stalin and not about Ukraine.
  50. captain
    captain 1 February 2014 22: 13
    +3
    He was a great man; I did not regret the whole shchelupon.