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How will Ukraine’s heart calm down? Consider options

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And what really happens? Why is the current government losing ground so actively that the opposition barely has time to put forward more and more new demands? There are several plausible hypotheses, each of which, unfortunately, leads to similar and equally negative forecasts and scenarios.


Background. Ukraine has literally been breaking into Europe lately, signing one agreement after another. Europe, in turn, made cautious steps towards it, forgiving even the blatant disobedience of the Ukrainian authorities in relation to the insistent demands of Europe to release “political prisoner No. XXUMX” - Yulia Tymoshenko. The future was bright and cloudless, it seemed that only a few hours remained before association with Europe, followed by fraternization and unity of nations, when suddenly ... In the adjusted process, something broke and the association covered itself with a copper basin.

There is no need to go far for explaining the reasons for such a sharp change in the course of the Ukrainian authorities - they are easily detected within some 800 km from Kiev, in a village called Moscow. This is closer than to Lugansk and Simferopol, albeit further than to Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk. That is, in general, hand at hand. It turned out that Moscow does not share the joy about the upcoming reunification of Ukraine with the “European dormancy”, but they see Ukraine as part of the Eurasian community, the notorious “Big Space”, which Russia as a state-civilization does not mind building around itself. There are not so hypothetical reasons for Russia's interest in the affairs of the former fraternal republic — these are the military and economic interests of both the Russian government as a whole and the individual oligarchic groups that contain this power. In other words, if Russia is more or less satisfied with Ukraine being neutral, then Ukraine, as a springboard for NATO and an open market for EU goods, is categorically unacceptable.

But why does Russia remember Ukraine only at the very last moment, as a not very diligent student about the session? Yes, everything is quite simple: Ukraine without 5 minutes is bankrupt, and not in the least it is connected with economic blockades and not too fraternal economic policies in the field of natural gas supplies, which Russia has been pursuing lately, such kind of soft buttings and clasps from older brother to a naughty and slightly unlucky little sister. And for various reasons, my sister decided that she and Russia are not on the path, since the big rich uncles from Europe and even from across the Atlantic give her signs of attention. Simply put, our Ukrainian oligarchic groups are more interested in doing business with civilized Europe than with wild and corrupt Russian business.

So, our domestic business pushes power to Europe and is ready to sacrifice much (for example, the people, that is, social interests), though not for everyone (for example, the liberation of our “dangerous socialist”). And it can be understood, though not fully.

Russia, in turn, puts pressure on the power of Ukraine, pursuing a policy of political stick and economic carrot.

Europe, disappointed in the current Ukrainian government, is looking for ways to discredit it and to eradicate it as soon as possible.

And, finally, the main world gendarme in the person of the United States conducts another “subtle political game” according to reliable scenarios of color revolutions. And the goal of the game is not Ukraine, as in the previous game, but Russia itself. Because today in Ukraine, unfortunately, there is no candidate for the presidency, who would also be the husband of an American intelligence officer. Therefore, the United States can act and acts as tough as possible, without flirting. The Egyptian-Eirian-Libyan scenario is being played out, the purpose of which is not constructive changes, but the maximum destructive - the worse, the better. And let Ukraine say thank you that the Republicans are not in power in the USA today - otherwise the events on Independence Square in Kiev would take place on an even larger scale.

But back to the options for the development of the situation, given the current political alignment.

Option 1: The government nevertheless introduces a state of emergency and resorts to force-based methods, since the “field commanders” of the Maidan are completely uninterested in any compromises and speak only the language of force. Unfortunately, with this option, the situation is almost inevitably catastrophic; One or two weeks of such confrontation will lead not only to victims from among the police and civilians, but also serve as a pretext for entering NATO’s “Myrtovorts”. Alas, the authorities do not have enough strength to do away with the militants quickly and efficiently, which means that an escalation of the conflict is possible up to a large-scale civil war in Kiev and the regions.

It should not be forgotten that resources in the hands of the authorities are limited, whereas its opponents have an almost inexhaustible source: if the “hawks” in the US got down to business, then they will bring it to the end, regardless of financial, material and human costs. . In addition, our near-business business is not at all interested in freezing accounts, the inevitable loss of assets and full-scale combat operations - indeed, a bad world is better than a good war.

True, one should not disregard Russia's political and other influence on Europe, primarily through gas supplies. Europe should not hope that the gas transmission system of Ukraine in the context of the civil war will remain workable. Accordingly, Russia will overlap the taps, and at least part of Europe will remain without energy, and this is in winter. Therefore, the option is not excluded that Europe will not interfere in any actions of the authorities to restore order, up to a forceful decision to clean up the Kiev and regional Maidan. Europe, but not America.

So, for a quick (read - forceful) resolution of the conflict: the power of Ukraine, most of the people of Ukraine, Russia.

Against: domestic business, “hawks” of the USA.

Abstain: Europe.

The people of Ukraine do not count, so the alignment of 2: 2. At the same time, domestic business is stronger than power, and the US is stronger than Russia. The forecast is disappointing.

Option 2: peaceful settlement of the conflict, read - its delay to new elections. The Maidan stands in a camp in the middle of Kiev until spring, and if necessary, until summer. The power is completely compromised, the results of quasi-democratic elections are not difficult to predict. Fascists and nationalists, generously funded from overseas, receive unprecedented 25..30% of votes and become a convenient political tool for the United States to inflame tensions in the region. Europe gets open sales markets, NATO - the Crimea and the territories bordering with Russia to house military bases. Ukrainian business is a bit feverish, there is another redistribution of spheres of influence, but oh well, especially since, ultimately, most of the assets are divided between global international corporations. Russia raises gas prices for Ukraine to slightly higher than average European, the industry is bent. Ukraine is entering into a protracted and mega-deep economic crisis without any hope of a “better situation”.

Option 3: "null". Miraculously, it is possible to find a compromise between the authorities, the opposition and the field commanders of the Maidan. This option is possible only if a) Russia finds “convincing arguments” for Europe (which is relatively simple) and the USA (mm ... yes) that neutral Ukraine is better than its dismembered corpse; b) the militants leave with “peremoga” in the form of early elections to the Rada, which will be the “axis-axis” and other gifts, and c) the government negotiates with the oligarchs, say, that part of the state assets will be denationalized and will receive new owners, moreover, not necessarily from the PR.

Well, something like this. Let us return to the hypotheses regarding the actions of the authorities. The authorities either: a) are completely demoralized and pack their suitcases for moving to relocate somewhere on islands in a warm ocean, or b) are entirely oriented towards the 3 “zero” option and simply take time, or while the warlords will make some concessions and will free administrative buildings. In this case, at least theoretically, it is possible to conduct a quick and effective sweep of the territories, while not obtaining the status of an international criminal and the corresponding sentence of the Hague court “with confiscation of property”. Again, such a scenario is possible only with the strong support of Russia, if only to neutralize Europe with its propaganda machine, the Hague court and financial sanctions.

The current government, as we know, is far from uniform. She, like an old cart, is pulled in different directions by “swan, cancer and pike”, i.e. Akhmetov, Kolesnikov, Firtash and other characters. But it is unlikely that the aforementioned persons are packing their bags now, because in the current government everything is as though they were the fighters who defeated the competitors in the dashing 90 and received their considerable fortunes not at all from the wealthy relatives. These people are able to fight and will fight to the victory. But they fight in different ways.

It is not difficult to imagine how some oligarchs are now gathering around the world, from London to Moscow and Washington, graduated analysts, advisers and political analyst consultants. As they, in turn, prepare cautious and at the same time very disappointing forecasts and scenarios for the development of the situation. How the oligarchs carry these predictions for acquaintance with the “dad”, without skimping on the recommendations: no abrupt actions, in the force variant too much risk, we will conduct secret negotiations with agents of influence in London, Berlin and Moscow, etc. etc.

It is not difficult to imagine how someone conducts negotiations with the opposition, incl. with extremist political technologists like Pygnyboka, good, none of them individually is able to claim all power in the country, but only some relatively small part of it. It is not difficult to imagine how someone else is developing financial and organizational plans for the formation of a fifth column of popular activists from the south-east of the country.

It remains to hope that all these actions, in combination or separately, will lead to at least some result. After all, if you look closely at the Maidan in the center of Kiev, then we will see only miserable and poor characters of the puppet theater. It is necessary only to tear the threads, and the dolls in rag heaps will fall to the ground. There, on the Maidan, there are no truly living people, there is only a zombie crowd, skillfully controlled by manipulators and their puppets.
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  1. Name
    Name 1 February 2014 07: 42
    +6
    The author of the chagoy "got it wrong", deciding that Russia and the Ukrainian authorities are in favor of a military solution belay ,and the Americans for a peaceful solution fool , this is the voice of the Boxer with the Rabbit, but not the People of Ukraine.
    1. jjj
      jjj 1 February 2014 07: 53
      +3
      The "oppositionists" have already demanded from the West a "Marshall Plan" in relation to Ukraine. They stop fighting
      1. domokl
        domokl 1 February 2014 08: 26
        +13
        Quote: jjj
        The "oppositionists" have already demanded from the West "Marshall Plan"

        I agree with you. The author did not just confuse, the author deliberately gave the scenarios of the death of Ukraine. You are a kind of a variant, in which the Nazis are still stronger. I think that the Ukrainian people have not really woken up yet. They perceive the Maidan as clowns, like a kind of Hyde Park in the center of Kiev.
        But with the real actions of the opposition, the people will come out for demonstrations and will solve problems just like the Maidan ... disperse too zealous by force ...
      2. CALL.
        CALL. 1 February 2014 08: 29
        +13
        I saw videos from interviews of "maydanutyh", read the comments. Well, well, it was necessary to say, parts of a single people, so that they would begin to hate the other part so much. So that, on the Maidan for the Russian speech, they were ready to stuff the face. And at the same time, Europeans are perceived as "liberators". Sad and disgusting. Disgusting from how deceitful and cynical the "liberators" turned out to be.
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 1 February 2014 10: 20
          +13
          Well, well, it was necessary to say, parts of a single people, so that they would begin to hate the other part so much.


          Yes, there is no one people in Ukraine. There are Bandera Nazi-Ukrainian Austro-Hungarian-Polish people of the West of present-day Ukraine and the Russian-Ukrainian East of Ukraine.
          It is impossible to reconcile the Bandera non-Orthodox West of Ukraine, oriented to the European Union, and the Russian-Ukrainian Orthodox East, the Russian Crimea, gravitating towards Russia, under the conditions of the Western model of liberalism and capitalism.
          It is impossible to unite essentially irreconcilable different nations that interfere with each other's living according to their traditional laws.
          So, the option of a split in Ukraine, which is not indicated in the article, is more likely than the others. There are also examples in Europe: Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia.
          Perhaps this will be the best option for a peaceful solution between the Maidan West of Ukraine and the peacefully living East, Crimea.
          1. Andrey57
            Andrey57 1 February 2014 13: 40
            +3
            Perhaps this will be the best option for a peaceful solution between the Maidan West of Ukraine and the peacefully living East, Crimea.


            The whole point is that Ukraine needs mattresses and a geyrop only in its entirety, in part it does not interest them, so no section is foreseen in the foreseeable future, at least as long as the West dreams of success in capturing all of Ukraine.
      3. wow
        wow 1 February 2014 14: 47
        +1
        Nope, just steal on "nenke" bilsh nema chogo, and sacrifice for free oh as a hotz!
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 1 February 2014 09: 21
      +2
      Take a look, please, a new video from the "right sector":
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 1 February 2014 09: 51
        +3
        Oh, tin! Chemists are your mother, battle formations, sawn-off cuttings, and how is that!
        Alexander, thanks for the information, in principle, everything is already known, but everything is exactly, we will keep in mind what kind of right sector is this!
      2. DMB-78
        DMB-78 1 February 2014 10: 39
        +3
        and how it has not yet been announced a provocation ??? because he speaks RUSSIAN. request
      3. Fin
        Fin 1 February 2014 12: 28
        +4
        Quote: mirag2
        Take a look, please, a new video from the "right sector":

        Conclusion: youth from unemployment does not know where to put themselves, but here you can play war games, release steam, and even earn money. Convinced no more than 1 thousand others are random. As the assault begins, half will scatter or climb under the table. You need to choose a moment and clean it. And now to clarify the near-fledged articles of the criminal code by radio, TV, SMS, megaphone ....., i.e. psychologically prepare for the inevitable responsibility for the perfect.
        1. Egoza
          1 February 2014 13: 39
          +4
          Quote: Fin
          And now to clarify the near-fledged articles of the Criminal Code on radio, TV, SMS, megaphones ....., i.e. psychologically prepare for the inevitable responsibility for the perfect.

          The fact of the matter is that they will all fall under the Amnesty Law. Therefore, they will "create and get up" !!! am They firmly believe in this, and try to convince them otherwise!
          1. does it
            does it 1 February 2014 14: 35
            +3
            Quote: Egoza
            The fact of the matter is that they will all fall under the Amnesty Law. Therefore, they will "create and get up" !!! They firmly believe in it, and try to convince otherwise!

            All this is a defect of the NKVD in its TIME.
        2. does it
          does it 1 February 2014 15: 01
          +1
          Quote: Fin
          Conclusion: young people from unemployment do not know where to put themselves, but here you can play war games, let off steam,

          It depends on where and how the steam is released, as I see the laws do not order them, but what about the "Obelixes" go ahead, just remember, there is only one order from the government and you won't even have a wet place.
          1. coserg 2012
            coserg 2012 3 February 2014 15: 41
            0
            This is surprising. Either give a command to the face or remove the guys altogether! That you (the government) are mocking those who are covering you up.
    3. wow
      wow 1 February 2014 14: 44
      +1
      Yukraina behaves like a cheap whore who twists her ass in all four directions, waiting for someone to pay more for her sluggish ass. In the end, the men around her are tired of it and her f ... t "in chorus" and for free! This is the lot of all cheap stuff.
      1. does it
        does it 1 February 2014 15: 03
        +2
        Quote: yo-mine
        Yukrayna behaves like a cheap whore who twists her ass on all four sides, waiting for someone to pay more for her sluggish ass.

        Not Ukraine itself, but its government.
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 2 February 2014 05: 12
        +1
        but somehow the pity does not cause the eternal descendants of Mazepa forever ...
    4. Realist58
      Realist58 1 February 2014 22: 39
      +1
      Amerovskaya oligarchy is pulling its end wreaking havoc around the world.
      This is the only way it can remain "an island of peace and stability" and receive real resources for its candy wrappers.
  2. Arhj
    Arhj 1 February 2014 07: 47
    +10
    Cheerless prospects for the people of Ukraine. In the best case, he simply won’t win anything, about the worst - you don’t even want to talk. The saddest thing is that there is no leader in the country and the punks in the square know this. And the guarantor of the constitution of the account in Western banks is much more important than the country.
    1. domokl
      domokl 1 February 2014 08: 32
      +3
      Quote: Arhj
      The saddest thing is that there is no leader in the country

      Exactly. But it cannot be. Until Ukraine was formed as a single state, until a single culture, a single national idea was formed, it will be so. They will win the elections either from the east (respectively, hostile to the West), or from the West (leaders opposed to the East0, but there will be no stability.
      Yes, and the oligarchs of Ukraine are separated very much ... Everyone who is near oil, gas, Matella, coal, look to the east. the rest is closer to the west. Trade capital is looking exactly there.
      So the task is to unite the people. The rest will resolve itself.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 1 February 2014 08: 38
        +6
        Quote: Arhj
        The saddest thing is that the leader in the country

        There may be no leader! But there are militias!
        An open-ended campaign "Fiery Ragulia" has started in Kiev, in which the people's militias and the cars of the Galychan fascists take part.
        Is it right for you to decide this! By law, property damage, God knows for justice!
        Source: http://politikus.ru/events/12008-akciya-ognennaya-ragulya-video.html
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 1 February 2014 10: 42
          0
          How beautiful goryiiiiiiit, even better than on Grushevskogo laughing
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 1 February 2014 10: 48
            0
            Quote: DMB-78
            How beautiful goryiiiiiiit, even better than on Grushevskogo laughing

            Sergei hi Something tells me that this is a self-made termite checker which was put on the hood! When they throw snow, it gets hotter! Well, I think so!
            1. DMB-78
              DMB-78 1 February 2014 11: 02
              +4
              Quote: Sid.74
              that this is a termite homemade checker that was put on the hood!

              I'm not an expert, I don’t know what they put there smile I only know that in Kiev they burned 20 auto-maidan cars with Lviv license plates. this is a much more beautiful sight than burning tires laughing
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 1 February 2014 11: 46
                +3
                Evgeny Zhilin, New Appeal Stronghold. Remembered after your words! good

        2. Arhj
          Arhj 1 February 2014 11: 35
          +6
          I like the action on the disappearance of nationalist leaders in an unknown direction. Let them go and look around.
        3. morpex
          morpex 1 February 2014 12: 08
          +1
          Quote: Sid.74
          Perpetual campaign "Fiery Ragulia" has started in Kiev,

          Only under this action, scumbags, burn cars of innocent people ...
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 1 February 2014 12: 22
            +1
            Quote: morpex
            Only under this action, scumbags, burn cars of innocent people ...

            This is not for me to decide, under the video, I expressed my position!
            Quote: Sid.74
            Is it right for you to decide this! By law, property damage, God knows for justice!
          2. DMB-78
            DMB-78 1 February 2014 12: 37
            +1
            Quote: morpex
            Only under this action, scumbags, burn cars of innocent people ...

            IMHO so they will adapt to any action. and if the government does not itch, how else can ordinary people protest?
            1. Egoza
              1 February 2014 13: 42
              +3
              Quote: DMB-78
              how else can ordinary people protest?

              Kiev dog lovers began to patrol with fighting dogs on the streets in the city center. Thus, they protect the property of Kiev from hooligans and looters. Each patrol consists of 3-4 people and dogs. Not every dog ​​can become a patrol, the main condition is to be trained, wear a muzzle and have impressive sizes, such as a German shepherd, Doberman or dogue de Bordeaux. “With our pets, we have already scared away a group of 15 people in Andreevsky,” says Bogdan, the head of the cynological club.
              Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-137413.html
              1. DMB-78
                DMB-78 1 February 2014 14: 03
                +3
                Quote: Egoza
                Thus, they protect the property of Kiev from hooligans and looters. Each patrol consists of 3-4 people and a dog

                and more of these. and this is a kind of response to the authorities and the Maidan
      2. zzz
        zzz 1 February 2014 09: 07
        +1
        Quote: domokl
        Exactly. But it cannot be. Until Ukraine was formed as a single state


        There are even leaders in the cave: the more courageous and stronger the hunter is the leader.
        1. domokl
          domokl 1 February 2014 11: 00
          +2
          Quote: zzz
          Leaders are even in caves

          A tribe or clan lives in the cave ... They are one. So your example is not a line ... Ukrainians themselves do not consider themselves to be a single people ... Read even comments here and see the relationship between East and West ...
      3. morpex
        morpex 1 February 2014 12: 06
        +1
        Quote: domokl
        And the oligarchs of Ukraine are divided very much ..

        You just noticed that. Basically, like the country. Two camps. Kolomoisky’s group, against Akhmetov’s group ... Maybe the dog is buried here? After all, most recently Yanukovych and Co. They ran into Kolomoisky’s business. Isn’t this why all this mess in Ukraine?
    2. zzz
      zzz 1 February 2014 09: 02
      +1
      Quote: Arhj
      Cheerless prospects for the people of Ukraine.


      It seemed to me that the author intentionally focuses on 3 version of the TS "zero"
  3. demotivator
    demotivator 1 February 2014 07: 50
    +11
    ... the main world gendarme in the person of the United States is conducting the next "delicate political game" on trouble-free scenarios of color revolutions. And the goal of the game is not Ukraine, as in the previous game, but Russia itself. Because today in Ukraine, unfortunately, there is no candidate for president who would be both the husband of an American intelligence officer.

    Why isn't there a candidate? It seems there is already. On Friday, Agence France-Presse reported that on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference, Kerry will meet with the leaders of the Ukrainian opposition. This is Vitali Klitschko - the leader of the second largest opposition faction "UDAR", Ruslana - a famous Ukrainian singer and an active participant in the "Euromaidan". Our Rogozin made a good joke on this score, proposing also Verka Serduchka. And he himself did not realize that in the Medvedev government, too, any minister can be replaced by the same Serduchka without deteriorating the quality of the industry management.
    It turns out that America has already decided on the future of Ukraine, and time will show how wrong it was or not. And in accordance with her choice, America meets the future president of Ukraine whom she wants to see — I don’t know about Ruslana, maybe Klitschko should marry her in order to finally win the hearts of Ukrainians.
    In general, what is happening in Ukraine? It seems to me that no one is seriously asking this question at all.
    In fact, everything that happens is based on the global crisis, but its refraction has a purely Ukrainian specificity.
    Ukraine is a purely bourgeois state, without any impurities. The main resources of the country are "held" by several families, which appoint ministers, have their parliamentary representation in the form of parties, and in fact even the presidential elections are a struggle of oligarchic clans in Ukraine. This is even enshrined in the constitution, where clan representatives in parliament exercise leadership through the creation of a "ruling coalition." Of course, there are contradictions between the clans, but there is no struggle for destruction, at least not yet. Tymoshenko can take away the metallurgical plant from Akhmetov and sell it to Mittal, but then Yanukovych comes and returns what was taken away to Akhmetov. But Akhmetov himself remains the richest and most influential oligarch in Ukraine under both Tymoshenko and Yanukovych. It's the same with Poroshenko, who can sit in the Cabinet of Ministers, or can stand on the podium of the Maidan, but the embankment in Vinnitsa, as it is named as derived from his name, remains the same - Vinnitsa belongs to Poroshenko, like some medieval tycoon, period.
    America acts quite logically and even fundamentally - well, it’s not Yanukovych’s support, I swear ...
    And Klitschko, firstly, is one of the few Ukrainians who are known in the world not as thieves or politicians, but because of his personal merits.
    Secondly, Klitschko does not represent, at least officially, oligarchic capital - and he himself is a businessman, but not large.
    And thirdly, he is a tax resident of America, almost an American - it is usually for the United States to impose post-Soviet regimes on leaders associated with the West.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 10: 50
      +2
      Quote: demotivator
      And Klitschko, firstly, is one of the few Ukrainians who are known in the world not as thieves or politicians, but because of his personal merits.

      this is such a merit ??? in the ring? or did they decide in the west to act according to Lenin’s precepts? can every cook rule the state?
      Quote: demotivator
      Secondly, Klitschko does not represent, at least officially, oligarchic capital - and he himself is a businessman, but not large.

      and to run a country with a population of several million people, the "not big" businessman has enough intelligence?
      1. Vitaliy735
        Vitaliy735 1 February 2014 12: 18
        +3
        Sorry for the lack of understanding. I'm talking about cooks. And what do we (Russia and Ukraine) have in power are not cooks? And where do you find non-cooks? Zhirinovsky? Tyagnibok? Yatsenyuk? Rogozin? The country should be ruled by patriots who love their people, but God knows where to find them now. The current ministers of the dollar.
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 1 February 2014 14: 56
          0
          Quote: Vitaliy735
          The country should be ruled by patriots who love their people

          and if this patriot does not understand anything in politics, not in economics, and in other areas of government, then how? and you do not remember the time when the party nomenclature was transplanted from place to place? from the bath directors to the director of the meat processing plant. from a fleet director to a stadium director, etc. is that right? a patriot must first of all be a competent person, knowing how and what he needs to do, knowing how to choose a team of like-minded professionals. and partisanship and verbiage will not lead to anything good.
      2. Arhj
        Arhj 1 February 2014 14: 50
        +1
        Quote: DMB-78
        this is such a merit ??? in the ring? or did they decide in the west to act according to Lenin’s precepts? can every cook rule the state?

        Well, of course. Here today in "Military Secret" reported that Klitschko in Germany has the status of a respectable businessman. Some taxes were paid to the budget in the region of 120 million (as I understand it, not hryvnia). How much did he pay to the Ukrainian budget?
        So it turns out that he pays taxes there, but somehow we did not see the Maidan at the Brandenburg Gate.
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 1 February 2014 14: 59
          +2
          Quote: Arhj
          Some taxes paid to the budget something in the region of 120 million (as I understand it is not hryvnia). How much did he pay to the Ukrainian budget?

          and in America he paid taxes from $ 12 million. nothing came of this money to the Ukrainian treasury
  4. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 1 February 2014 08: 02
    +3
    Tired of these maydanutye..Then now General Moroz accelerates them ..))) How interesting Serdyukov and Vasilyeva are there? bully
    1. Denis
      Denis 1 February 2014 08: 09
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Tired of these maydanutye..Then now General Moroz accelerates them ..))) How interesting Serdyukov and Vasilyeva are there?

      The Olympics would be more likely, otherwise these Ukrainian "news" are already tired.
      1. zzz
        zzz 1 February 2014 09: 36
        +1
        Quote: Denis
        The Olympics would be more likely, otherwise these Ukrainian "news" are already tired.

        By the way, now the situation of our country depends on Ukraine ... Well, there are also topics about Serdyukov .... there is more interesting, probably ... Sory, I do not want to offend anyone.)))
      2. optimist
        optimist 1 February 2014 09: 36
        +4
        Quote: Denis
        The Olympics would be more likely, otherwise these Ukrainian "news" are already tired.

        This is exactly what is the key point !!!! The organizers of the "Maidan" calculated everything very accurately: as long as the "limpiyada" is going on (and this is almost 2 months), Russia will not do anything not to get a boycott of this "limpiyada". Apparently, what is happening in Ukraine, there is simply no peace path: everything has gone too far. Maidan people understand: if they disperse, prison will await many. So, most likely, the "denouement" will begin in a week ...
        PS In vain minus the article (IMHO). The author outlined everything quite sensibly. This "abscess" in Ukraine was brewing all the years of its "independence" and someday it had to burst. More sitting on two chairs will not work: in all its "glory" the Bolshevik slogan arose: "Whoever is not with us, is against us !!!" So Ukraine will either be part of Russia (at least partially), or the West will tear it away to itself ...
  5. Name
    Name 1 February 2014 08: 07
    +2
    Unlike the author, there are opinions about five options for the development of the situation and not so pessimistic ... The most likely option is the formation of a coalition government, except for surrendering the opposition of the siol departments. Those interested can read more:http://www.aif.ru/euromaidan/prediction/1092208 hi
  6. Neophyte
    Neophyte 1 February 2014 08: 11
    +7
    Panikovsky - Shuriku: now go to Kiev and ask who Panikovsky was before the revolution?
    I sat on Khreshchatyk, I sat on the Maidan, I was guarded by Zakharchenko himself, what can I say, Shura!
    Every day I washed in the bath and women loved me.
    Probably every citizen of Kiev recalls with nostalgia these glorious times, before and after the Maidan.
    But much of what is happening in Ukraine was predictable. Throughout the 24 years of independence, with the approval of the authorities, an active campaign was conducted to brainwash an ordinary man in the street and create an image of an unhappy
    Ukrainian and his main enslaver, Moscow! And now, all this spilled over into chaos, which has no end.
    What is in store for Ukraine tomorrow? The author of the article, thinking about the scenario development options, forgets about the ordinary Ukrainian’s dream: I don’t know anything from the edge, but I want to live in Europe.
    And everything will be simple, Ukraine after the 2015 elections, will stand in line for Moldova and Georgia, in search of
    Svidomo right now, turning into another training ground for Uncle Sam.
  7. valokordin
    valokordin 1 February 2014 08: 19
    +6
    We must understand that the Ukrainian authorities immediately after the divorce took a position hostile to Russia. Remember their non-fall actions against the Black Sea Fleet, strategic bombers. GDP has drawn a helping hand to the brothers, but that they did not grasp it tightly, although without Russia, Ukraine will become a NATO colony, not the EU. The actions of the Ukrainian authorities are reminiscent of the actions of our liberal democratic government, executing orders from abroad. No matter how much the GDP did not urge them to fulfill his orders, they do not intend to do anything like that. They steal, they steal, they steal and their name is legion. Hence the death of the aircraft industry. As Supkrjet is praised on TV, they even call him aglitski. Well, they would call it Pogost-100. And then they promise the president and do nothing. Joseph Vissarionovich would not tolerate this. Dmitry tried everything, that's enough, the country's pocket is not bottomless. And one must treat lesbians as Trotskyists.
    1. optimist
      optimist 1 February 2014 10: 27
      +1
      Quote: valokordin
      No matter how much the GDP did not urge them to fulfill his orders, they do not intend to do anything like that. They steal, steal, steal and their name is legion.

      Didn't the "bright" thought occur to you that Vovan was "in a share" with them? laughing And all this "fight" of his is just a show for the oohs ???
      1. morpex
        morpex 1 February 2014 12: 14
        -1
        Quote: optimist
        Didn't the "bright" thought occur to you that Vovan was "in a share" with them? And all this "fight" of his is just a show for the oohs ???

        It came to me. And for a long time. I somehow voiced it here .. The demons were zapping ... wassat
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 2 February 2014 11: 12
          0
          Quote: morpex
          It came to me. And for a long time. I somehow voiced it here .. The demons were zapping.

          And they made you angry because you took away hope from people.
  8. ZU-23
    ZU-23 1 February 2014 08: 21
    +3
    I don’t like one of the options. It is necessary to introduce a new law of parasitism and to drive all the morons to work or to prison laughing
    1. Vitaliy735
      Vitaliy735 1 February 2014 12: 35
      +2
      Sorry, but there has never been enough work in western Ukraine since Soviet times. People went to various hacks to Russia, to the harvest in the summer, etc. What is the parasitism law? Yes, and from the West their rod. For example, in the Czech Republic, both the Kazakhs, the Russians, and our other ex are treated normally, but as soon as a Ukrainian, and even from a Western one, goodbye. Here they are picked up for money for Maidan, etc.
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 1 February 2014 14: 07
        0
        Quote: Vitaliy735
        but as soon as a Ukrainian, and even from the west, goodbye.

        not everyone. the girls. Yes, and young, and even beautiful, very willingly take laughing
  9. sichevik
    sichevik 1 February 2014 08: 53
    +3
    The article is completely different from the voice of the people. Somewhere I read that less than 4% of the population of Ukraine participate in protests. Here at the cries of this vile and fetid bunch looks like.
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 1 February 2014 14: 56
      +2
      And there is. The rest have no time to protest. Need to work.
  10. makarov
    makarov 1 February 2014 08: 57
    +3
    "After all, if you look closely at the Maidan in the center of Kiev, we will see only miserable and wretched characters of the puppet theater. One has only to break the threads, and the dolls will fall to the ground in rag heaps. There, on the Maidan, there are no really living people, there is only a zombie crowd, skillfully controlled by manipulators and their puppets. "

    For the sake of completeness, I would like to know whom the author gives the phrase "LIVING PEOPLE" ??? (otherwise I just can't give a comment.) hi
  11. igorra
    igorra 1 February 2014 09: 00
    +9
    Have you noticed? Another Ukrainians-Little Russian dragging out a song about the main thing: Russia did not help, did not give, did not reduce, etc. You beat yourself in the chest on the Maidan, how great and independent you are, and what happened, the Russians should run and wipe their noses, and change diapers. If you are a state, then maybe you yourself will learn. All these billions from our pocket, we ourselves somehow do not eat gold. Each ruble we get with sweat, so we in Russia know how the money goes, unlike the lads who went for a freebie. In vain you Putin slowed down, would have plunged into the geyropeyskoe crap, would have become more adequate.
    1. major071
      major071 1 February 2014 09: 49
      +9
      The article put a minus. Should Russia? Russia owes nothing to anyone! It seems that the author blames Russia for everything, but what about your independence and sovereignty? Yes, if Russia at least somehow began to officially help Ukraine (here I do not mean gas and loan prices), then perhaps now all those who accuse us of lack of assistance would shout completely different that Russia is interfering in internal affairs Ukraine, etc. A helping hand was extended to you, but the decision on whether to take it or not lies with you.
      For some reason, one of the parables about Khoja Nassretdin was recalled: Passing by the canal, Khoja saw that a bye was drowning in it, and a peasant was standing on the shore and trying to pull him out. The peasant with a cry: -Give, come on! trying to get the buy to lend him a hand to pull him out of the water, but the buy does not give a hand and continues to sink. Then Khoja went up to the peasant and said: “This is a buy, he’s used to taking, not giving, so you shout to him wrong, you have to shout like that -Oh!” extended his hand to the bai. He grabbed her and was saved. Here is such a parable. hi
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      2. Cristall
        Cristall 1 February 2014 12: 56
        +2
        In general, he saved the moneylender. But then he defined him as simply rich.
        The author claims, not everyone. The author also has a mania.
        Although it is difficult for a country between the EU and the Russian Federation to conduct its own policy - and with such politicians at the helm - it is generally unrealistic.
  12. Hey
    Hey 1 February 2014 09: 10
    +4
    My vision of the situation is as follows:
    Yanukovych was unequivocally given a team, from Moscow, to drag out time by any means, any game with all the giveaways. Which he has been demonstrating for 2 months. These are statements about the desire to join the European Union, Azarov’s tour of Europe, the adoption and repeal of laws in the Rada, with the disruption and delay of its work, the resignation of the government and proposals for it. Now the Council and the opposition will get bogged down on this issue for a long time.
    And the goal is to play one more time for a month.
    And there is only one reason, the holding of the Olympics in Russia, and the aggravation of the situation in the world because of Ukraine, Russia is not beneficial. Hence such passivity in relation to what would seem to be such a close state. Permanent statements of non-intervention. Notice how frustrated he is with Putin’s speech at the last EU-Russia summit.
    We would have to stand the night, but hold out the day, so it seems at Malchish Kibalchish. And Yanukovych is a month.
    And after the Olympics, other statements, other things will be more solid and specific.
    1. zzz
      zzz 1 February 2014 09: 24
      +3
      We all hope so. God forbid that the Olympics be held without provocations. No pasarán!
    2. olviko
      olviko 1 February 2014 10: 59
      +4
      "And there is only one reason, the Olympics are held in Russia,"

      Yesterday, unexpectedly (and already officially confirmed), a message was received about Viktor Yanukovych's intention to attend the opening of the Olympic Games in Sochi on February 7, which “can only be prevented by force majeure.” It is clear from this that Russia is not going to abandon Ukraine, with those who are abandoned meet and do not call. Yanukovych, apparently, has also finally decided who he will be with. At least in the West, the fate of Milosevic awaits him. Professional lawyers and human rights activists are already collecting information for international courts about human rights violations during protests in Ukraine. They intend to seek punishment of the perpetrators through the UN and the ECHR. All responsibility for the blood of the so-called peaceful Euromaidan activists, without trial or investigation, is assigned to Yanukovych, that is, he is already a criminal by default, who must be tried.
      By the way, according to rumors, one of the last instructions that Azarov gave subordinates in the post of head of government was to prepare a package of documents by March 10 for Ukraine’s entry into the CU.
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 1 February 2014 11: 18
        0
        Quote: olviko
        .At least in the West, Milosevic’s fate awaits him. Professional lawyers and human rights defenders are already collecting information on human rights violations during international protests in Ukraine for international courts. They intend to seek punishment of the guilty through the UN and the ECHR.

        but it seems to me that Putin has a card in his sleeve. SAAKASHVILI. there is much more blood on it than on Yanukovych. and the criminal case against him as far as I know is not closed.
      2. Cristall
        Cristall 1 February 2014 13: 05
        +2
        in order to join the TS, you need to veil it tightly (let's say by extension of trade to name, but not by direct text while preparation is in progress)
        secondly, to have a well-established system of control over the behavior of the memory device. Do not feed her with bread, give the news about the vehicle - for her it's like hellish fire. They will start yelling - the Yoke of Moscow and all that ... and there, as always, democrats of all countries unite against the undemocratic decisions of the authorities "wrong"
        In principle, the Ukrainian authorities have already become "wrong" for the democrats. When they plundered the country but joined the association, everything was peaceful and democratic. As soon as the party's course "changed", it immediately became "undemocratic" no matter what they did themselves, it is important how the media presented it.
        It will be hard to hold out a month! Yes. winter - you won’t even be able to drive a healthy grandmother outside to stand, only an idiot without brains (and there are many)
        The country is very cold. I’m not used to seeing snow in Odessa and there were minus 15 .. return +10 smile at least to the south.
    3. yur
      yur 1 February 2014 12: 07
      +1
      Lord, what does the Olympics have to do with it ?! This is an ordinary, I emphasize, an ordinary sporting event that is held at least once every 2 years (winter, summer), and if you take all the championships, Universiades and other world championships, then in general, every quarter. In the case of Ukraine, the fate of not one or even two countries is being decided, but the fate of the future European and world order. We must act, we must not wait! The further strength or impotence of Russia depends on which direction Ukraine will go, who will be in power there. I am not an indisputable admirer of Vladimir Ilyich, but his: "Delay is like death!" Is more relevant than ever.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 1 February 2014 15: 33
        +2
        Quote: yur
        Lord, what does the Olympics have to do with it ?!

        Olympics, this is an informational occasion. Against this background, the effectiveness of information throws is simply terrifying. Therefore, the mandate will try to organize harsh provocations during the Olympics.
        Moreover, the goal of the "directors" is by no means the replacement of Janek)). Their goal is the utmost chaos of Ukraine and filling it with rabble from all over the world.
      2. TiGRoO
        TiGRoO 1 February 2014 15: 50
        +2
        The thing in my opinion is that there will be flows of militants from the Caucasus and the Middle East and all our specials in Sochi. the services work to protect the south of the country, and especially the cities of Sochi, Volgograd, we all remember (((That's why time is running out, but after the Olympics our agents, scouts, etc. will be able to deal with Ukraine.
  13. ars_pro
    ars_pro 1 February 2014 09: 23
    +1
    I will repeat my comment. I would like the authorities and the opposition to agree peacefully, but if, nevertheless, the "illegitimate" do not want to, or cannot compromise, then if they lose, we will dictate what we will be for, but that's not the problem, Western regions are subsidized and they will not be able to give us anything sensible, but moreover, if Ukraine remains intact and the policy changes to a more rational, pro-Russian one, then the western regions will consider that we oppress them and impose our culture, and as you know, you will not be cute , despite the fact that Yanyk is even more or less loyal to western Ukraine and none in relation to the southeast. Thus, against the background of the general, God forbid, the unsuccessful development of the situation, there will be no winners, at least from the people of Ukraine for sure. The question is that if the government still shakes, while it bends, bends but does not break, then Crimea and the entire southeast itself will automatically be able to go to Russia, and jackals like Romania will attempt to attack western Ukraine. It seems that this is how the United States will want to play off Russia and the EU, although it is also not a fact that Europe will sign for Romania or Hungary, we know everything how it is done and decided, they look after the fact and still would not want to see Western Ukraine under the Romanians or Hungarians, then the Western people will probably need to choose and that's where their self-identification will be visible, but for now, the fact that they are there on the Maidan is the usual paid dust, although there are people who really think that they can change something and achieve a little white, fluffy, transparent power, speaks only of their naivety.
    1. Egoza
      1 February 2014 11: 02
      +4
      Quote: ars_pro
      I wish that all the same, the authorities and the opposition agreed peacefully,

      People’s deputy Vadim Kolesnichenko from the Party of Regions faction plans with his party members to address President Viktor Yanukovych and the Verkhovna Rada with a question about the need to move to a federal model of governing the country.
      It is reported Russian-speaking Ukraine.
      “As a People’s Deputy of Ukraine, together with my colleagues, I will send proposals and put the question to the President of Ukraine, the Constitutional Commission and the parliament about the need to move to a federal model of governance during the constitutional reform in Ukraine,” said the People’s Deputy.
      He noted that the federal structure takes into account the existing economic, geographical, ethnic, linguistic, religious specifics of the regions of Ukraine.
      “Providing the historical lands of Ukraine with a certain amount of functions necessary to solve specific regional problems, firstly, will ensure the development of both the regions themselves and the state as a whole, and will open the door to integration processes in Ukraine.
      Secondly, it will allow finding the optimal model of the state system of Ukraine, which combines the advantages of a single state with the independence of the regions. And, thirdly, it will ensure unity, collegiality of Ukraine, stop separatist, irredent moods, ”the politician summed up.
      Kolesnichenko noted that in doing so, 27 regional and equivalent state administrations and the same amount of advice will be eliminated, the staff of officials and budget expenditures will be noticeably reduced, local self-government will significantly increase.
      http://news2000.com.ua/news/sobytija/v-ukraine/243814
    2. Vitaliy735
      Vitaliy735 1 February 2014 12: 55
      0
      Do you really believe that something can "pass" to Russia? How do you imagine this?
    3. Cristall
      Cristall 1 February 2014 13: 10
      +3
      Quote: ars_pro
      and jackals like Romania will attack western Ukraine

      Romanians themselves have no chance of doing something. Only with global support.
      And they have long been encroaching on my region, they all want the whole mouth of the Danube and a piece of Odessa region (I don’t know with Odessa or without a vegetable known to them in the ass)
      it is impossible to give territory. No matter what idiots it is clogged. Today, the memory, tomorrow you can still clog with idiots - and so to Siberia you can give away because of idiots to whom the media changes brains - it is easier to carry out counter-actions for brains.
  14. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 1 February 2014 10: 14
    +7
    It is a pity that the oligarchs have almost all the media, Yanukovych had to be given an order to show the film "Taras Bulba" in Ukraine. So that the entire Ukrainian people would remember who their enemy really is. Yesterday this film was shown here, I watched it again with pleasure. This is where the people really fought for their statehood, and with what self-sacrifice! Today's Ukraine has lost touch with its ancestors, bought into the trickery of the European Union. It's a pity, Ukrainians, watch this film again and listen carefully to what Taras Bulba says at the stake. Good luck Ukrainians!
    1. zzz
      zzz 1 February 2014 10: 31
      +3
      Cool movie, we also watched. Only all the media in Ukraine are against the authorities ... therefore, Ukrainians do not see their true patriots.
    2. 222222
      222222 1 February 2014 11: 51
      +6
      .. yesterday watched it on Ukrainian TV .. filmed by Vladimir Bortko in 2008. starring Taras Bulba the great artist Bogdan Stupka ...
      "What, got the damn Poles?
      Do you think there is anything in the world that a Cossack would be afraid of?
      Wait, the time will come, there will be time, you will know what Orthodox
      Russian faith! Already and now they smell distant and close peoples: rising from
      The Russian land is its king, and there will be no power in the world that would not submit
      him! .. "(Gogol NV)
  15. ed65b
    ed65b 1 February 2014 10: 33
    +3
    Less article, delirium of a pioneer emerging from a coma. especially about the Hague Tribunal and the calculation of prospects in the style of a football match. There is nothing to discuss.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 1 February 2014 13: 16
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      Less article, delirium of a pioneer emerging from a coma. especially about the Hague Tribunal and the calculation of prospects in the style of a football match. There is nothing to discuss.

      I categorically agree. The security officers will storm the seized administrative buildings for two weeks, and foreign politicians will drag ammunition into these buildings? Will the Kievans feed the defenders? The author collapsed from the oak. possessed for an hour. I don’t want to consider the rest of the items. It’s urgent for Attar to visit the specialized doctor.
  16. 222222
    222222 1 February 2014 11: 18
    +2
    ..from A to B ... New under the Constitution and Laws of Ukraine ..
    A. Constitution of Ukraine.
    Section 5 - President of Ukraine
    Article 102. The President of Ukraine is the head of state and speaks on behalf of the state.
    The President of Ukraine is the guarantor of state sovereignty, territorial integrity of Ukraine, compliance with the Constitution of Ukraine, human and civil rights and freedoms.
    ..Article 106. President of Ukraine:
    1) ensures state independence, national security and succession of the state;
    21) takes, if necessary, a decision to impose a state of emergency in Ukraine or in some of its localities, ..

    B. Law of Ukraine "On the legal regime of the state of emergency"
    "... Article 1. Determination of a state of emergency
    A state of emergency is a special legal regime that may
    temporarily introduced in Ukraine or in its individual areas under
    man-made or natural emergencies
    character not lower than the national level that led or may
    lead to human and material losses pose a threat
    life and health of citizens, or when trying to capture the state
    authorities or changes in the constitutional system of Ukraine through violence and
    provides for the provision of appropriate public authorities,
    military command and local government
    In accordance with this Law, the powers necessary to prevent
    threats and ensuring the safety and health of citizens, normal
    the functioning of the national economy, public authorities and
    local governments, protection of the constitutional system, and
    also permits a temporary, threatened, restriction in
    the exercise of constitutional rights and freedoms of man and citizen and
    rights and legal interests of legal entities with an indication of the validity period
    these restrictions. .. "
    A state of emergency may be introduced if:
    ... "4) the emergence of riots, accompanied by
    violence against citizens, restricting their rights and freedoms;
    5) attempts to seize state power or amend constitutional
    building Ukraine by violence; "..
    http://uazakon.ru/zakon/zakon-o-pravovom-rezhime-chrezvichaynogo-polozheniya.htm
    l
    1. moremansf
      moremansf 1 February 2014 12: 08
      +1
      So it’s not clear what the guarantor of the Constitution of Ukraine is waiting for !!!!
  17. alone
    alone 1 February 2014 12: 22
    +1
    The only option to resolve the situation is negotiations between the authorities and their opponents. The purpose of the negotiations should be to find a way out of this situation. There is no alternative. And after finding a way out of the situation, it’s already necessary to act against those who actually committed criminal offenses, burned cars, killed police and citizens.
    I also think that the law of Ukraine should begin to work against those who urge to split the country.
    Ukraine must be united.
    1. 222222
      222222 1 February 2014 12: 39
      +1
      moremansf RU Today, 12:08 ↑
      lonely (1) AZ Today, 12:22
      It all ends sometime. This next Maidan will end ... But will the deep-seated problems in the country be solved, whether by peaceful negotiations or by imposing a state of emergency? For a while, yes .. And then?
    2. Egoza
      1 February 2014 13: 53
      +3
      Quote: lonely
      The only option to resolve the situation is negotiations between the government and their opponents

      Well, you are just like J. Kerry! He thinks so too!
      "Yanukovych is not compliant enough - Kerry
      Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych's concessions to the opposition are insufficient to resolve the political crisis in Ukraine. This was announced by US Secretary of State John Kerry during a meeting with his German counterpart Frank-Walter Steinmeier. "The proposals of President Yanukovych have not yet reached the level that would be sufficient to be considered reforms," ​​he said. Kerry also noted that "external forces" should not interfere in the conflict and that it is the task of the Ukrainian people to determine the future fate of the country. At the same time, the United States and Germany continue to work "shoulder to shoulder" on the situation in Ukraine, he added. "
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-137471.html
      On my own I would add - Probably J. Kerry believes that the United States and Germany are "internal forces." Thank you dear! We already know this, and all the lured oppositionists - by name! Only such "internal forces" on and on figs are not needed!
  18. groin
    groin 1 February 2014 12: 37
    +3
    Dear Ukrainians. In addition to everything else, you need a truly true, patriotic, sane leader who cares for all Ukrainians (and not only). Soon, much will depend on this person, as well as on Yanukovych now. What dear Oles Buzin does not suit you, in my opinion a normal candidate, certainly will not betray.
    1. 222222
      222222 1 February 2014 12: 51
      0
      "The king is played by the retinue" Does he have a team? Besides the name?
      I doubt strongly that he needs it .. and we are the losses of an interesting writer ..
      ..Buzina: "I'm 1 / 32nd Ukrainian, 1 / 32nd Russian ..." ..
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 1 February 2014 14: 38
        +4
        Quote: 222222
        ..Buzina: "I'm 1 / 32nd Ukrainian, 1 / 32nd Russian ..." ..

        He said: "I am 1 / 32nd Russian, 31 / 32nd Ukrainian." Writer, this is a vocation and it may not necessarily prevent Olesya from becoming president, or vice versa. Remember Griboyedov, he was an ambassador, which did not prevent him from becoming a writer.
    2. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 12: 53
      0
      IMHO she is very soft. something like this
    3. Egoza
      1 February 2014 13: 57
      +3
      Quote: groin
      What dear Oles Buzin does not suit you, in my opinion a normal candidate, certainly will not betray.

      It suits us, but Svidomo’s spirit does not tolerate it! And other applicants will be enough. I suppose that someone was nominated from the PR - the same Kolesnichenko or, possibly, the current Minister of Justice. Nothing too lady! Perhaps someone from the CPU nominated. After recent events, the rating of communists is growing.
    4. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 1 February 2014 14: 10
      +3
      Quote: groin
      Dear Ukrainians. In addition to everything else, you need a truly true, patriotic, sane leader who cares for all Ukrainians (and not only). Soon, much will depend on this person, as well as on Yanukovych now. What dear Oles Buzin does not suit you, in my opinion a normal candidate, certainly will not betray.

      I’m not very familiar with the biography and activities of this writer, but the writer’s statement about homosexuals: “They must respect my human manifestation of physical disgust for them and try not to show their vicious inclinations with me. Moreover, do not impose them on society. The place of buggers among buggers. ”Sounds modern and timely ... lol
  19. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 1 February 2014 12: 39
    +2
    The situation is not clear. Many players, many interests, many theories, it is easy to make a mistake. No need to scold the author, he described how he sees the situation based on open sources. It will be clear everything will be different because 99% of crucial information passes by the media. Who holds what for whom, and what they decide on this matter, we will learn after the fact. Brought in the part concerning us. So far it seems to me it will be like this:
    First, America, through money, holds almost the entire leadership of Ukraine and, apparently, partially to Russia, who understandably wins in this situation. Secondly, Europe does not really need a blazing Ukraine, Europe had plans for a gesheft, and this will result in some expenses. Thirdly, when the country is divided, part of the territory will go to third countries. And the results, despite the preparation, are not obvious. A part, most likely the Crimea, can go to Russia in a secret order, which America does not want.
    Apparently they will agree on a pro-Western leadership and a transitional period. The most violent "Maidans" will be beaten a little and imprisoned a little in compliance with different democracies, the West always needs those dissatisfied with any government. The rest of the holiday, maybe even a national holiday and the distribution of elephants. The transitional period will be used to establish reliable political and economic control of the West over eastern and southern Ukraine. Several clans of prominent "businessmen" will suffer. At the same time, Russia will be demonized in Ukraine and Ukraine in Russia. Well, plus the processing of the Russian leadership in terms of surrendering Ukraine, and squeezing out Russian business. And then, as planned - "fraternal embrace of a democratic Europe", the curtain, the gesheft.
  20. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 1 February 2014 12: 42
    +1
    Declaration of the State of Emergency in the country, mopping-up operations (the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine), everything is as in clause 5 of the "Law ..." And the nationalists and their henchmen are real terms. SPRING IS COMING SOON !!! FUCKED IN KIEV - MOTHER OF RUSSIAN CITIES !!!
    1. 222222
      222222 1 February 2014 13: 04
      +1
      polkovnik manuch RU Today, 12:42
      "The army is the most powerful tool for solving any political problems by force. Its involvement in an intrastate conflict is a dangerous action fraught with serious consequences for the state. That is why responsible politicians are so afraid to resort to this measure, but political extremists talk about it so easily." .. Igor Popov. Military analytics.
      http://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2014-01-31/10_kiev.html
  21. delfinN
    delfinN 1 February 2014 13: 07
    +3
    He would have reassured them in a swoop ...
    1. does it
      does it 1 February 2014 15: 05
      +1
      Quote: delfinN
      He would have reassured them in a swoop ...

      Yes, Old Man would reassure.
  22. Cristall
    Cristall 1 February 2014 13: 15
    +2
    2 hours is not enough. Need to ask for 2, and stay ....
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 14: 12
      +2
      Quote: Cristall
      2 hours is not enough

      give the order to the golden eagle and the security forces, five minutes. prosecutors and courts will complete.
  23. dropout
    dropout 1 February 2014 13: 21
    +6
    The Blue Dream
  24. Tankist su
    Tankist su 1 February 2014 13: 44
    +2
    "A bestial screech burst suddenly from the white building. A screech, then a hoot. A screech.
    “They're ruining the Jew,” a voice softly and lusciously tinkled.
    Bakaleinikov froze in icy powder, and either a white wall and black eye sockets with broken glass fluttered before his eyes, or a broad-cheeked something vaguely resembling a human face covered by a gray German basin.
    It was as if the carpet was being knocked out in the building. And the screeching widened, grew to the point that it seemed as if the whole Slobodka was full of howls of a thousand people. "" The first murder in his life, Dr. Bakaleinikov saw a second at the turn of the night from the second to the third. At midnight at the entrance to the cursed bridge. A man in a torn black coat with a face, blue and black streaked with blood, was being dragged through the snow by two lads, and Pan Kurenny ran alongside him and beat him on the back with a ramrod. The head shook with every blow, but the bloody one no longer screamed, but only gave a strange hoot. The ramrod bit hard and bitingly into the torn to shreds coat, and each blow answered with a hoarse:
    - Wow ... and ...
    Bakaleinikov's legs became cottony, bent, and the snowy Slobodka swayed.
    - Ah, the Jewish face! - shouted frantically pan smoking. - To his stack for execution! I'll show you how to hack in the dark corners! I'll show you t! Why are you timid behind a stack? What ?!
    But the bloodied one did not answer. Then the smoked pan ran in front, and the lads bounced off to dodge the soaring shiny cane. Pan smoked did not calculate the blow and immediately dropped the ramrod onto his head.
    Something crunched, the black bloodied one didn’t answer: “Wow ...” It was somehow strange, turning up my hand and shaking my head, I collapsed from my knees and, with a broad wave of my other hand, threw it aside, as if I wanted to take it for me more well-worn, crippled white earth.
    Even distinctly Bakaleinikov saw how his fingers bent hookedly and grabbed the snow. Then, in a dark puddle, the lying one jerked several times with his lower jaw, as if he was choking, and at once verse. "M. Bulgakov" On the night of the 3rd day "I saw and went through Kiev all this already once ...

    http://2000.net.ua/2000/forum/mnenie/97326
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 14: 14
      +1
      Quote: Tankist su
      I saw and passed Kiev all this already once ...

      but taught nothing sad
  25. Conepatus
    Conepatus 1 February 2014 13: 59
    +2
    Starting in April, zapadents go to work in Europe. Students, in the spring they only think about women. They will only be homeless, but you will not make a revolution with them. All will be decided for the remaining 2 months.
    You don’t need to judge the Trinity Judah (Klitschko, Yatsenyuk, Tyagnybok), you just need to bang them during the arrest, and you never know, suddenly Europe will achieve liberation. And so, there is no Judah, there’s no problem. any ethnic Romanians, to go to Romania. I understand that there will be a lot of blood only if the authorities continue to yield to Maidan’s s_r_a_n_i, then there will be more blood shed.
    Yes, and to redo this Independence Square so that henceforth even a small rally there was problematic to organize.
  26. Egoza
    1 February 2014 14: 04
    +2
    The head of the Polish government, Donald Tusk, during his meetings with European Union leaders this week warns them of a possible “black scenario” of developments in Ukraine. In his opinion, in Ukraine there may be an aggravation of the conflict after the completion of the Winter Olympic Games in Russia, after February 23. This was reported by the Polish Radio News Agency with reference to unofficial information. “The head of our government said in Brussels that destabilization could take place after the Sochi Olympics, because then Russia would again begin to interfere in the internal affairs of Kiev. If it comes to aggravation of the conflict, Warsaw is afraid of a massive influx of refugees from Ukraine, ”Tusk said. During yesterday’s talks with European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, he also warned him of the possibility of interruptions in gas supplies to the European Union if the opposition came to power in Ukraine, since then Russia could “turn off the gas valve”. Among the topics that the head of the Polish government discussed yesterday in Brussels was also assistance for Ukraine. However, according to the Polish Radio, the European Union cannot offer Ukraine anything new. Recall that Brussels leaves open the question of signing an association agreement with Ukraine.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-137425.html
    xxx
    Mr. Tusk is not afraid of that! Be afraid that the association will be signed and then not refugees will rush to you, but Bandera's people along with the "right sector"! Take the "native land". And about gas ... don't nod at Russia, but think about Ukraine - they can also turn off the tap on the charger, we have experience. But after that you will quickly let everyone in (according to their calculations). And February 23 is not only the end of the Olympics, but also the Day of the Soviet Army! It seems to me that it is in this context that this date worries you! laughing
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 14: 17
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      Soviet Army Day!

      Defender of the Fatherland Day and this is also a hint smile
  27. yankeegohome
    yankeegohome 1 February 2014 14: 50
    +2
    This whole mess called "revolution" was originally built on lies. Judging by the cheerfulness of the voice and the face, which still does not fit into the screen of Bulatov, the same is another theater. And the man was tortured for a week and did not feed completely the last two days. Again, how did a blindfolded person in the basement navigate how long they did not feed him? Did you count the seconds?))) Well, explain to me - why did the kidnappers let him go? Only for him to tell about the kidnappers "with a Russian accent." The latter is generally a masterpiece. At the same time, as with the sick "journalist", Chernovol looks very colorful for the picture, but in fact, there are no injuries. Only concussions, which are easiest to simulate. I would not be surprised if what was shown is tomato juice. It's impossible to watch Ukrainian channels at all. Everyone is howling only about the dead "children" with grenades, and how many policemen were killed and crippled - no TV, no fucking Europe, no, no. Yesterday I spoke only with the guys from the Dnieper, with the police. They pierced the head of a policeman kid during the assault on the regional administration. The guy was 21 years old. Shovel holder and punched at the end with 200mm nails. They pierced the helmet and head. He died two days ago. Three more are in the hospital, one is serious. So much for the peaceful demonstrators ... And at the same time Berkutyane- well, the Nazis are straight. It is a pity that the command "fas" was never given. I just hope so far. We got it already.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 15: 05
      +1
      Quote: yankeegohome
      It is a pity that the command "fas" was never given. I just hope so far. We got it already.

      oh and the golden eagle will come off, it will not seem a little maidan ...
  28. delfinN
    delfinN 1 February 2014 15: 01
    +4
    Quote: dropout
    The Blue Dream

    The dream is blue, but this is a harsh truth:
  29. ZU-23
    ZU-23 1 February 2014 15: 02
    0
    http://rutube.ru/video/e0a49821d8144cd2b8e0e3c3b13874a2/?ref=search
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 1 February 2014 16: 35
      0
      Quote: ZU-23
      http://rutube.ru/video/e0a49821d8144cd2b8e0e3c3b13874a2/?ref=search

      I'm sorry, but I'll post this video as it is)
  30. vikov
    vikov 1 February 2014 15: 09
    +2
    Quote: DMB-78
    Quote: Arhj
    Some taxes paid to the budget something in the region of 120 million (as I understand it is not hryvnia). How much did he pay to the Ukrainian budget?

    and in America he paid taxes from $ 12 million. nothing came of this money to the Ukrainian treasury


    And you try not to pay tax on money earned in the United States or Germany - eternal life in Russia. tongue
  31. vikov
    vikov 1 February 2014 15: 13
    +1
    Quote: dropout
    The Blue Dream


    What are the children of senior officials of Russia and Ukraine who abandoned this blue dream? or people-goof? bully
  32. LLIpaM
    LLIpaM 1 February 2014 15: 51
    0
    Minus article. The author is completely confused and contradicts himself in his reasoning.
  33. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 1 February 2014 20: 13
    0
    I have a strong feeling that the modern government in Ukraine and radical nationalists are two sides of the same coin. Those. one American project. Support for Maydauns is the talk of the town, amerskie politicians on the Maidan are almost on a rotational basis. The authorities are also soiled, for example, the shoulder straps of the SBU officers from the hands of the US ambassador are recalled. Or training on various projects in NATO and the USA. Calculated for the legitimate transition of Ukraine under the control of the West. There was a misfire, we went over to plan "B", apparently a little hastily. Nobody is interested in the fate of Yanukovych in both cases, so apparently he kicked up or like Labeled (which is also boring). In general, "Carthage must be destroyed." Carthage, from their point of view, is Russia and, naturally, the Slavic world.